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Impressive O-line play at camp + who's playing on Thursday? | Jaguars Reporters: Monday, August 1 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Z Jones apparently got his helmet knocked off during a play.
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Speaker 1: Obviously Tray Herndon was the guy that did it because
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Speaker 1: they took trade through the sideline, flipped him over and
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Speaker 1: then all heck broke loose. Welcome to Jaguars Reporters presented
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Speaker 1: by t I A A Bank with Brian Sexton, John Oshan,
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Speaker 1: Ashlyn Sullivan, and j P. Shadrack. Jaguars Reporters Presented by
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Speaker 1: t I A A Bank starts right now. Welcome into
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars Reporters Podcast. It's Monday, August one, j P. Shadrick,
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Speaker 1: Brian Sexton, Ashland Sullivan getting started in week two of
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Speaker 1: training camp. Oh yeah, and it's game we Yeah, this
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Speaker 1: should be the dog day week, you know that week
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Speaker 1: where you don't have anything to look forward to but
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Speaker 1: the end of it. Um, it's so weird to be
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Speaker 1: thinking that, you know, we're just days away, hours really
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Speaker 1: from the Jaguars playing the first preseason game. It's just
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Speaker 1: it boggles my mind. It definitely helps breaking this week
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Speaker 1: up because you're so right. I will say today is
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Speaker 1: the first day was on the field. I was like,
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Speaker 1: all like, we need something new here, we need something else.
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Speaker 1: Got a fight. Yeah. I didn't even ask for it.
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Speaker 1: I got it. I said that John John Deever, the
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Speaker 1: new PR guru here, I said, you know the other
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Speaker 1: thing missing and he looks, he goes, what I went
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Speaker 1: a fight? He goes, you look for that to go?
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Speaker 1: What's about time? It's you get one of those? And
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Speaker 1: they come. I've said it to everybody, so I'll say
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Speaker 1: it to you if I haven't already. But you know
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Speaker 1: when we went the last time the Jaguars played in
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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame game, what we went to training
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Speaker 1: camp July six and didn't play h I mean the
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Speaker 1: three and a half weeks and now here we are
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Speaker 1: just boom right there. And that. Don't get me wrong,
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Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not saying let's go back to the
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Speaker 1: old ways. It's just wow, here we go. And in
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Speaker 1: terms of that scrum you're talking about, Z Jones apparently
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Speaker 1: got his helmet knocked off during a play. Obviously Trey
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Speaker 1: Hernon was the guy that did it, because they took
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Speaker 1: Tray through the sideline, flipped him over and then all
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Speaker 1: heck broke loose. And I still have some wheels too.
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Speaker 1: I got out of there quick. The scrum was coming.
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Speaker 1: My way. I was like, do I go left or right?
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Speaker 1: I'm going I went right. I chose just exited just
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Speaker 1: as fast as you could. Yes, I noticed that involved
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Speaker 1: in any of that. Yeah, that's yourst nightmare. It is.
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Speaker 1: I mean it's like a wave of Teal jerseys coming
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Speaker 1: at you. I need I'm on the sideline for a reason.
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Speaker 1: One on one pass rush again today, Um, you know
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Speaker 1: Walker a little pretty good on Traylon Walker times really
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Speaker 1: good JP. I mean I've I've written on my camp
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Speaker 1: observation a couple of times. But he moved so effortlessly.
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Speaker 1: But you're talking about Trayvon Walker, who comes at you
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Speaker 1: with those long arms, just trying to get the angle
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Speaker 1: to get yourself squared up so that you can't spin
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Speaker 1: back to the inside or duck underneath you with those
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Speaker 1: incredibly broad shoulders, and Walker little just he's I want
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Speaker 1: to say ballerina because that was what Mike Major, the
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Speaker 1: original offensive line coach, used to describe Tony Biselli. But
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Speaker 1: damn close. I mean he is very light on his feet.
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Speaker 1: I was really impressed with Walker a little today. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you saw the improvement. I think it was the first
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Speaker 1: rep yesterday when he went against Traymon Walker yesterday pay
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Speaker 1: on locker blue pass and it's like all right, and
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Speaker 1: then he saw coach Rauscher kind of sit with him.
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Speaker 1: And you haven't seen anything left yet. I know there's
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Speaker 1: a competition going on. Walker Little is the right tackle
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Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned. I mean, Jowan Taylor is
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Speaker 1: sitting on the side right for three straight days. That
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Speaker 1: doesn't help chance at all. No, but even if he
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Speaker 1: was playing, I've seen enough of you want Taylor to
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Speaker 1: know he doesn't move laterally like that. Walker Little is
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Speaker 1: this team's right tackle. We've seen Cam Robinson continue to
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Speaker 1: play well in those on Bill Rauscher. I mean, first
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Speaker 1: of all, you can be anywhere on that complex over
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Speaker 1: the Episcopal School, he's awesome. My goodness, that's a left tackle. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and you know what I mean, Cam really kind of
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Speaker 1: feeds off that energy. That's you know, he's that really
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Speaker 1: hyper competitive guy. And so every rep he got in there,
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Speaker 1: he got better and better and better. I'm really impressed
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Speaker 1: with the offensive line coach in the way that he
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Speaker 1: interacts with the guys in Brandon Shuff told us yesterday,
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Speaker 1: I mean, one of the reasons why he came here
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Speaker 1: was because Phil Rousch was coming. Yeah, and Cam Robinson,
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Speaker 1: I asked him not to practice it because when you
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Speaker 1: watch him and he has a good rep, which has
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Speaker 1: basically been every single rep the past two days, he's
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Speaker 1: killing a left tackle. He yawns at Josh Allen when
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Speaker 1: he just completely stands up Josh Allen, he blows kisses
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Speaker 1: to the crowd. He's giving peace signs. I'm like, what's
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Speaker 1: going on with you? He goes out just a little
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Speaker 1: chip like he has paid attention to what everyone has
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Speaker 1: said that he's not this franchise is left tackle. He's
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Speaker 1: proving all of us wrong during training camp and yeah,
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Speaker 1: and the celebrations are you know, the yawns, the kisses.
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Speaker 1: Now go do it Week one for sure, there's still
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Speaker 1: go do it. But we talked about this chip on
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Speaker 1: the shoulder. It's very obvious why he has this chip
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Speaker 1: when he is properly motivated and works at his and
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Speaker 1: I heard this three years ago. When he is motivated
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Speaker 1: to work, he is really really good. But that was
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Speaker 1: the knock on him was that he wasn't as motivated,
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Speaker 1: didn't work as hard as they wanted him to. Apparently
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Speaker 1: he's now motivated because he's having a great camp look
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Speaker 1: forward in a draft pick out of Kentucky. It's tough
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Speaker 1: for a center in those one on one situations when
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Speaker 1: a defensive tackle is shaded, because in real life, you're
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Speaker 1: gonna have help in those situations. Well, today it felt
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Speaker 1: like they were playing a little more head up against
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Speaker 1: him in the one on one. I thought he had
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Speaker 1: a pretty good day in the past rustrials. You know,
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Speaker 1: we asked Sheriff about this yesterday too. For a rookie
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Speaker 1: to step in and play center, I mean, that's It's
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Speaker 1: one thing when you've got a rookie right tackle, but
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Speaker 1: a rookie center who's got to figure the calls out
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Speaker 1: and to be able to see what the defense is doing.
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Speaker 1: Of course, now we're talking about a guy who had
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Speaker 1: an internship at NASA, so you've got the right guy.
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Speaker 1: But the thing about Fortner that stands out to me
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Speaker 1: is his demeanor. He's calm, and his size. He's really big.
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Speaker 1: You know, the Jaguars. Jaguars fans can rightfully point to
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Speaker 1: some mistakes that this team has made over the years,
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Speaker 1: but not at center. You went from Brad Measter to
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Speaker 1: who Brandon Linder to it appears Luke Fortner. That's a nice,
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Speaker 1: really nice draft pick through eight days of practice, and
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Speaker 1: I like when Coach Peterson, it was Sunday morning, he
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Speaker 1: was asked, you know, what do you want to see
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Speaker 1: at a Luke forowner? And I thought he'd give the
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Speaker 1: co chance. You know, it's a competition and we might
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Speaker 1: throw Shotley in there. He's like, no, no, no, Luke
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Speaker 1: Foroartner is our center. Just a matter of fact, like
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Speaker 1: we want to see Luke Fortner as our starting center period.
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Speaker 1: End of discussion. Shatley is very valuable to you in
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Speaker 1: a number of different ways, but Fortner looks like he's
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Speaker 1: your long term guy. We drafted these guys for a reason.
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Speaker 1: Play red zone today, Evan Ingram had a catch, nice
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Speaker 1: leaping grab, taped his toes in the back of the
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Speaker 1: end zone. It was kind of a roll to the
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Speaker 1: right for Trevor Lawrence and then a back pedaling throw
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Speaker 1: just kind of tossed it up and Ingram made a
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Speaker 1: nice play over two or three defenders for the score. Actually,
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Speaker 1: he was pretty chippy afterwards if you could hear him,
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Speaker 1: And if it had been me, I would have say,
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Speaker 1: well how about all is you dropped on Sunday because
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Speaker 1: he didn't have a very good day on Sunday. He
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Speaker 1: was dropping very catchable balls um and so to see
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Speaker 1: him come up with a clutch catch in the back
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Speaker 1: of the end of it, because remember the linebacker was
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Speaker 1: trailing him, arms were up and there was a safety
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Speaker 1: over the top. He reached between two warms and snatched
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Speaker 1: the ball. If that's the Evan Ingram that Trevor Lawrence
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Speaker 1: can count on this year, I signed him up to
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Speaker 1: a multi year deal. I mean that that was a
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Speaker 1: big time catch. But the guy on Sunday was inconsistent,
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Speaker 1: which was sort of the knock on him when he
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Speaker 1: was in New York. So it's really good to see
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Speaker 1: it is and he needed that. I think everyone needed
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Speaker 1: to see that because you're right on Sunday, and especially
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Speaker 1: if you're looking at Giants, fans are like, oh, yeah,
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Speaker 1: you know the old Evan Ingram, Like we're used to this,
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Speaker 1: so yeah, we need to see it again and again
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Speaker 1: and again. But he showed we can do. Now the
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Speaker 1: question is the consistency. The other guy who didn't have
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Speaker 1: a great day on Sunday was Christian Kirk. He dropped
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Speaker 1: a couple of passes that you thought as you gotta
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Speaker 1: catch Rose. But he made a couple of catches. And
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Speaker 1: Phil Rousch's his explanation one. It only takes one play,
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Speaker 1: remember that early on, and that's sort of defense. And
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Speaker 1: and that's what Kirk's gonna do for you, is he's
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Speaker 1: going to give you that that boost at a moment
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Speaker 1: where it's third and seven. He's gonna get you nineteen
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Speaker 1: and put you in a position to kick a field
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Speaker 1: goal to tie the game right in the third quarter,
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Speaker 1: where this team in the past couple of years couldn't
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Speaker 1: get that done. Kirk had a really productive day on
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Speaker 1: the practice field too. He did that touchdown catch in
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Speaker 1: the corner of the end zone. And the best part
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Speaker 1: about that touchdown Trevor Lawrence on the money right over
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Speaker 1: the defender, like only where Christian Kirk can get it.
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen is screaming at the top of his lungs,
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Speaker 1: come here in this like scary voice. I didn't know
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Speaker 1: could escape Josh Allen. It was the stone I've never
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Speaker 1: heard from him in Trevor's face, like screaming that in
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Speaker 1: his face while Trevor was throwing this ball. I thought
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Speaker 1: Trevor was going to get sacked to the ground. Even
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Speaker 1: though you're not supposed to do that right now, because
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Speaker 1: that's how quickly Josh Allen was running at him and boom.
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Speaker 1: As good a throw as it was, it was a
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Speaker 1: great catch Kirk to contort his body and get under,
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Speaker 1: get his legs to almost slow down, and his upper
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Speaker 1: body to reach and to pull that win in. Since
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Speaker 1: you mentioned Josh Allen, he had a couple of plays
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Speaker 1: where they were working underneath routes and combo combos off
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Speaker 1: of those routes. He was all over. He was good stuff.
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Speaker 1: He's a good old camp. I like him and it's
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Speaker 1: the meaners obviously perfect by the way, if I haven't
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Speaker 1: sad this to you. Um, he's a big guy, you know,
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Speaker 1: he's six five, but next to Trayvon Walker he looks small.
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Speaker 1: Not small, but smaller noticeable difference. YEA, let's take a
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Speaker 1: time out. We'll preview the rest of the week ahead
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Speaker 1: traveling to Canton, Ohio Wednesday, and then of course the
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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game at eight o'clock kickoff time, and
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Speaker 1: can'ton Ohio at Tom Benson Hall of Fame Stadium. The
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Speaker 1: Jaguars and the Las Vegas Raiders will be on the
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Speaker 1: air at five o'clock with the public's tailgate show. Well,
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Speaker 1: a little business to attend to between now and then
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Speaker 1: one more practice ago Ashland. Don't put the cart before
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Speaker 1: the horse. They gotta figure some things out, they do.
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Speaker 1: And coach Press Taylor offensive cordina Or spoke this morning
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Speaker 1: and kind of gave a little hints. He was asked
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Speaker 1: about Trevor Lawrence playing on Thursday, and he's like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I have something to say about that. Safe to say,
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Speaker 1: we won't be seeing Trevor on Thursday. No, there's no
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Speaker 1: reason to play him. Many people may not see many people. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you know, here's an interesting one. Would you be tempted
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Speaker 1: to put Travis E. T n on the field for
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Speaker 1: a couple of plays, but it's been a long time
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Speaker 1: since he played, you know, three four snaps, maybe maybe five.
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Speaker 1: You're not gonna get him. Look, that makes me nervous
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Speaker 1: thinking about that. You're well, you can't. I mean, they're
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Speaker 1: they're football players, and he's a guy. It just would
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Speaker 1: mean nothing. You would mean not, but it would mean
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Speaker 1: something to him. I think to be able to just
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Speaker 1: kind of loosen up. Maybe you do. I don't know,
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Speaker 1: but I would if I were to Peterson, there's a
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Speaker 1: couple of guys I'd want to see because here's what
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Speaker 1: I would want. I would want to see how his
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Speaker 1: body responds to it. Right. You know we've talked all
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Speaker 1: the time. Can you practice every day? Can you play
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Speaker 1: and then come practice on Sunday? You know? Or does
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Speaker 1: the foot bother? It doesn't look like you bother. He
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Speaker 1: looks terrific. Let's say this. I wouldn't run and run
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Speaker 1: up the middle. No, like swing passes or something. They
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Speaker 1: step out of bounds. Yeah. If I think, if you're
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Speaker 1: gonna make an argument of anyone playing, I very much
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Speaker 1: see him maybe Lavisca as well a couple. There's a couple.
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Speaker 1: I think there's a handful of Cortner offensive line's going
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Speaker 1: to get out there, and you know the Raiders are
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Speaker 1: gonna be They're not gonna be playing their front line
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Speaker 1: guys much either. So here's the thing about about Etn
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Speaker 1: in particular, You're gonna be nervous whenever you put him
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Speaker 1: back on the field, which is why I would want
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Speaker 1: to get him out there and get there with now's
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Speaker 1: like okay, week seven, you can come. I mean, Snoop
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Speaker 1: Connor is going to get most of the carries in
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Speaker 1: this game on on thirdnight, but just you know, give
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Speaker 1: you to in a couple of of you know licks,
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Speaker 1: you know, opportunities at it and and then get him out.
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Speaker 1: Then I wouldn't play anyone else. I mean I did.
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Speaker 1: There's very few guys that Severs can like stay on
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Speaker 1: the bench there. You're gonna play the offensive line something
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Speaker 1: because you you know, it's a new group. Cam Robinson, No, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: you're probably not probably maybe' not gonna play the offensive line.
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Speaker 1: The defense. It's like, you know a lot of those
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Speaker 1: defensive linemen or veteran guys, like what do you need
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Speaker 1: to play them. You gotta have some guys play because
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Speaker 1: that last I heard, they're gonna play this game for
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Speaker 1: sixty minutes four fifteen minute quarters. Correct, right, there's no, no, no,
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Speaker 1: it's I mean it's exhibition game, but it's still a game.
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Speaker 1: You're excited as I am. I think, um, just to
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Speaker 1: see the depth, you know, the depth that we always
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Speaker 1: talk about, really seeing it come to life. And I
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Speaker 1: think for coach Peterson too, I just saw like the
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Speaker 1: giddiness in his eyes and he got to speak to
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Speaker 1: the draft party and be in front of the fans.
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Speaker 1: For this to be his first game, I'm excited for
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Speaker 1: him to kind of get one under his belt. It's
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Speaker 1: just you know the experience of it. This was my
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Speaker 1: first NFL game years ago, so I'm a little bit
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Speaker 1: nostalgic to go back. It's a completely different place. They toured.
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Speaker 1: The old place down was Fawcett Field and it was
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Speaker 1: high School Stadium and they rebuilt it. Um, So I'm
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Speaker 1: I'm anxious to see it. Obviously with the Baselli stuff
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Speaker 1: this weekend, I mean, it's it's a big moment for
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Speaker 1: the for the franchise, and it comes in a moment
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Speaker 1: where you've got a new coach and a young quarterback,
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Speaker 1: and you feel like you're going to take a big
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Speaker 1: step forward this year. I mean it's a launching pad.
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Speaker 1: Of sure, it's I mean, you're not trying to win necessarily,
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Speaker 1: but you get my point. It's an opportunity. It's a
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Speaker 1: great example. And I think the team is going to
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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame on Wednesday to tour, and I
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Speaker 1: think for a young team like this to kind of
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Speaker 1: see this come full circle and and for the Jaguars
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Speaker 1: to be on a national spotlight this week and get
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Speaker 1: the attention that frankly they haven't gotten in years, is
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Speaker 1: a good thing. It's the only NFL game of the week,
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Speaker 1: and that's the first preseason game in the National Football
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Speaker 1: League in two the Jaguars and the Raiders coming up.
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Speaker 1: We'll have Jaguars reporters Friday morning after the game. Brian, Fine,
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Speaker 1: let's book it right now. Alright, we're going to do
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Speaker 1: with that. A cup of coffee while we do it,
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Speaker 1: we can do Yeah, what's in the coffee? Noah, of course,
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Speaker 1: y's when we have a couple of Absolutely, that's Brian Sexton,
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Speaker 1: Ashlyn Sullivan, Joe Fortunato, I'm J. P. Shadrick. We will
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Speaker 1: catch you later in the week. It's Jaguars Reporters