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Knicks' Fourth-Quarter Magic, Jalen Brunson’s Historic Run · The Regulars

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  Welcome, welcome, it is a Friday night
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  and you are in the right place
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  because you will probably have a drink in your hand.
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  You're probably getting ready to watch the finals game too,
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  which we are gonna be opening up and talking about.
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  And you're joining your friends, Tanya and Cody.
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  Welcome to The Regulars, I'm Cody Decker.
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  I'm Tanya Ray Fox and I'm not the one
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  who screwed up the intro with my loud phone.
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  Really, did that actually make that in?
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  Mocha, did that sound actually get in there?
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  Oh!
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  Suck it, Tanya, suck it, Tanya.
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  That's all on Mocha though, that's Mocha being a pro.
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  Yes, good job, Mocha, you solved all of my problems
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  and I appreciate it as always.
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  Guys, we got a lot to cover today.
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  Tanya, we missed out on another week.
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  I look very forward to today's catch-up corner
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  where we can find out some things
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  about what you got to experience recently
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  and congratulations on all of that and your success.
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  I'd love to tell you all the new things
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  that I had to deal with this week in awesome fashion
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  because I had a great week on The Fan in LA.
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  And the sports world, as you know,
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  since the last time I was here with you,
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  everything was great.
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  Nothing was wrong, as was the theme of the show.
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  Since then, everything has gone absolutely kablooey.
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  Everything's wrong and we are, we're cooked.
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  We're cooked.
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  Everything's made up and the points don't matter.
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  We're cooked.
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  Yeah, we're cooked as hell.
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  By the way, just a side note,
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  have you heard USA's chant for the World Cup?
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  No.
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  We're cooked.
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  Paraguay's gonna win by fucking 50.
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  Like we debuted an actual chant
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  for the crowd.
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  What is it?
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  What is it?
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  I got, I'll find it and play it on my phone
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  so you can hear it.
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  Oh, are you talking, is it like a song?
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  Oh, it's a song that the American fans
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  have made for us to score goals.
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  I now don't want us to score goals,
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  so I do not hear this song.
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  So the World Cup's coming, but USA is not.
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  We are in dire straits in the soccer world.
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  To be fair, I'm not 100%.
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  I can't remember if we would've made this World Cup or not
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  if we weren't hosting.
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  If we weren't hosting.
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  I don't think we could.
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  We are not good, so also.
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  We got Pulisic, what are you talking about?
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  He's scored one goal in the last seven months.
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  Yeah, all right, he was supposed to be
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  the next Landon Donovan, Clint Dempsey,
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  and here we are.
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  We've got neither Landon nor Clint,
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  nor Tim, Tim Dom, Tim, who's,
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  I almost said Tim Thomas.
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  Who's Tim Thomas?
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  No, that's the Bruins goaltender.
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  I was about to say.
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  I, yeah, I got nothing for you.
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  Listen.
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  By the way, your voice sounds phenomenal.
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  I'm so sorry about this, guys.
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  I'm not sick this time.
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  I'm not sick this time.
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  This is just me spending three and a half days
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  talking to hundreds of people all day long
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  and then going out all night
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  and only sleeping four hours a night,
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  but we're gonna talk about why that was later on.
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  I'm gonna spill the tea about influencers,
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  what it was like being at a content creator space,
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  and being on Capitol Hill.
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  Can I just point out, five minutes ago,
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  you sounded like you.
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  What has happened in the last five minutes?
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  Before this show started, you were Tanya.
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  It was like, yeah, I'm a little hoarse,
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  but everything's great.
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  Everything's awesome.
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  This show's starting.
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  You sound like Roseanne Barr now.
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  I really don't know.
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  I think it might be the volume at which I'm speaking.
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  I'm trying to speak as loud as you are.
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  You don't need to.
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  There's a microphone.
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  You can speak very, very, here.
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  We can have a quieter show.
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  Okay, here we go.
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  All right.
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  How does it sound?
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  We can go ahead and just get right into the sports.
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  Yeah.
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  Let's do it.
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  Headline number one, Tanya.
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  Well, we're obviously gonna be entering
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  into game two of the NBA Finals during this show.
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  Sure are.
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  In a couple, I think in like 25 minutes,
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  but we have game one under our belt.
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  We know what that looked like,
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  and it was the Knicks nixing their asses off.
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  In the fourth quarter, yeah.
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  Captain Club showed up again.
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  By the way, I wanna make this abundantly clear.
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  He did not have a good first half,
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  although injury scares came out of the game a little early,
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  but I thought the Knicks showed plenty of rust
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  in that first half,
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  and like you said,
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  Knicks did what the Knicks do in the fourth quarter.
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  The power of friendship.
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  Oh my God, it was a nice one.
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  They're winning games with the power of friendship,
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  and you love to see it.
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  I do think that, so when we were talking about this,
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  the general consensus, as we were talking about it,
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  was whoever wins, Thunder or Spurs,
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  they're gonna be the favorites going into the Finals.
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  And they were.
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  They were the favorites.
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  Absolutely what happened.
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  And then the thing that we were also talking about,
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  which is, but if the Knicks do their thing,
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  if they're still, if they're not coming off of the rest,
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  if they're not rusty,
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  the Knicks can, they've proven
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  that they can just beat anybody
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  at whatever game they are playing at any point in time.
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  Now, I didn't get to watch the first half of the game.
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  I was watching the second half on the plane
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  when I was finally able to get it up.
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  And I saw, I think within the first like three minutes
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  of watching, like three Josh Hart steals.
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  Yeah, he was amazing.
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  It was, and then obviously Jalen Brunson kicks in
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  and starts doing what he's doing.
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  Kat is, everybody was doing the thing
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  they were supposed to be doing at the very elite,
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  at the best level.
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  OG and OB had a great night.
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  Like it was all hands on deck really,
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  especially that fourth quarter,
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  especially coming back 17 down to the third.
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  And the thing is Cody,
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  for that to be the way that they played in San Antonio.
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  Yeah, it was very impressive.
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  This was not at MSG because I think we all agreed
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  that like this team's probably gonna win
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  at least a game at Madison Square Garden.
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  That seemed sort of inevitable.
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  They're riding too much of a high.
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  Real quick.
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  The name you were looking for earlier was Tim Howard.
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  Tim Howard.
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  Yeah.
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  And I wanna make it really clear.
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  Thank you, Neil Scar.
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  Thank you, Neil.
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  Oh, that's me.
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  That's my guy.
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  Oh, Neil, thank you.
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  Thank you, we needed you.
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  Thank you, Neil.
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  Also, Tim Howard is by far the greatest American player,
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  soccer player for men.
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  Like if you had to rank them,
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  like he comes in above everybody else.
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  So for me to forget his name, not great,
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  but I can now shout out the fact that like to me,
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  he's the goat of American soccer.
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  I'm sure he will be happy to hear that.
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  Yeah, I'm sure he's gonna be incredibly relieved.
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  To be fair, I do this all the time.
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  I call him Tim Thomas all the time.
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  It's insane.
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  I call him Jonathan Taylor Thomas all the time.
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  Sure, of course.
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  JTT.
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  But yeah, so I thought the Knicks would,
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  I really did not see them pulling out a game
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  in the first two.
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  And so now I am convinced they're winning the finals.
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  Okay, I like it.
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  I think we're going seven.
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  I do think that this has to be a good series.
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  The Spurs are way too good for this to-
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  So here's my take on it.
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  I've been very, very lucky these last few weeks,
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  obviously being surrounded by one Derrick Fisher
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  and being able to talk the NBA finals
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  with a guy that's got five rings.
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  That's pretty killer.
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  But like the aspect about the Spurs
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  that I really, really grew to really appreciate,
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  especially in that seven game series against Oklahoma City.
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  And I think we can agree,
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  forget about how the Knicks are playing right now,
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  but can we can agree that Oklahoma City
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  is a better team than the Knicks, correct?
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  Yes.
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  Okay, and I think by a fairly decent margin.
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  Watching that matchup, it was very clear
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  that even like defensively, how good the Thunder played.
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  The Knicks have to do a very specific thing to win games.
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  The Thunder are a very-
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  A machine.
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  And the one thing that in my eyes,
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  in my view really was the equalizer was Victor Wiminyama.
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  When he goes off, he goes off and you can't stop it.
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  Nothing can stop it.
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  And what I noticed about that series that really impressed me
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  which I didn't think,
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  because I thought Oklahoma City was gonna win game seven.
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  I wanted it to be the Spurs,
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  but I thought it was gonna be Oklahoma City.
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  But every single time that happened,
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  every time I thought Oklahoma City
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  got their shit together,
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  every time it looked like they had their thing together,
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  oh, they stopped Wemby.
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  They figured out Wemby.
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  That was the narrative every single time Oklahoma City won.
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  Then the Spurs made some sort of adjustment.
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  They made an adjustment and they fixed the problem.
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  And then it was like watching a game of chess.
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  Both teams were just adjusting
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  what worked in the previous game.
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  That's why we're getting this back and forth.
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  And it felt like that montage in Rocky IV
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  where Rocky's hitting directly in the face
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  and Drago's getting hit directly in the face.
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  And it was like poetry to watch.
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  I feel like we're gonna get something
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  very similar in this series.
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  I think we have two very, very talented teams.
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  And I think that the Spurs are gonna go ahead
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  and make an adjustment tonight, get a victory.
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  Granted, I think they need to get themselves
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  one hell of a cushion,
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  because as we've seen with this Knicks team,
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  no cushion is safe.
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  22 points in the last series, 17 in this series,
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  already in game one on the road.
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  I don't know what else to say other than,
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  yeah, you ain't wrong, but I'm still leaning Spurs.
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  And I think we're going seven in this bad boy,
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  at least, you know what?
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  If nothing else, I hope we're going seven in the series.
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  I want nothing more than seven games of these two teams.
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  I like these teams so much.
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  I was so happy when the Spurs won.
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  The way that they won too, it was really interesting
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  because the way they won was by the end of that game,
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  seven against the Thunder, they were minutes managing,
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  or they were managing Wemby
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  because he was in foul trouble.
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  They needed that Champagne, Champagne,
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  I always forget how to say his name.
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  I always just say Champagne.
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  Champagne.
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  He was hitting like every shot he was taking.
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  It's always something like that, right?
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  That's going to put you over the top
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  against a really elite team.
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  And then obviously the way that they're going to win
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  against the Knicks might be different,
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  but every single one of those kids is,
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  first of all, the team is incredibly young.
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  They have so much energy.
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  They don't tire out.
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  And defensively, when they're zoned,
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  when that defense starts working,
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  it's basically impossible.
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  You can force timeouts to be used.
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  You can force certain things to happen.
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  The best part about the Knicks
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  is that they don't give a fuck.
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  And they have Mike Brown.
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  And so their ability to adjust to that
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  is really interesting as well.
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  I think Mike Brown's a better head coach than Mark Daniel.
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  But you've heard what my issue is.
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  My issue has nothing to do with this team.
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  I think these two teams are perfect.
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  No, I know.
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  Listen, you're not the only person
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  to be complaining about Knicks fans.
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  Again, I like the whole vibe that the Knicks fans have going.
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  Now granted, yes, the whole like you guys wouldn't get it.
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  Everybody gets it.
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  Everybody gets being a fan of a team
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  that hasn't won in a long time, of course.
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  But I will say, have you seen them trolling Elmo?
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  No.
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  Okay, this is pretty funny.
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  I'm listening.
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  You might be able to sway me.
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  I'm listening.
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  Now you got my attention.
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  So Elmo tweeted, I just hope both teams have fun.
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  And Knicks fans were like, bitch, you're from New York.
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  Absolutely not.
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  There are so many tweets of people like trolling Elmo
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  because Sesame Street's in Manhattan.
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  He's a Knicks fan.
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  And so these, I have to send you these tweets.
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  They're really, really good.
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  I'm not disagreeing that these
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  aren't going to be fucking hilarious.
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  They're very funny.
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  They're going to be funny.
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  Yeah.
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  You think that Knicks fans yelling at Elmo
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  is going to get me on their side though?
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  Yeah.
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  I think it'll be funny,
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  but it'll just make me hate them more.
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  No, if it was any other, if it was any other one,
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  anyone else from Sesame Street, I would be upset.
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  Elmo can handle it.
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  Elmo dishes.
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  Okay.
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  Elmo dishes.
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  What does Bert and Ernie think?
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  That's a good question.
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  That's all I care about now.
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  Our gay couple?
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  Yes, our very famously gay couple.
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  Oh, by the way, I thought this was really funny.
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  I know this is a complete sidebar,
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  but you know, the movie He-Man is coming out,
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  which I have no interest in seeing
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  because Jared Leto's in it.
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  Oh yeah.
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  I would see it.
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  I really would go and see this, but Jared Leto's in it.
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  So I'm not going to see it because he is,
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  no, he's just poison.
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  He's a skeleton and I still won't fucking see it.
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  Just cause I know it's him.
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  Oh, is he a skeletal?
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  He's skeletal.
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  I have no interest.
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  Fuck this noise.
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  That being said, I saw a lot of people tweeting out
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  about a lot of shit about a...
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  Oh my God, I can't believe how woke this went.
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  What?
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  He-Man?
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  He-Man?
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  The famously gay char...
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  He-Man is all about...
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  It is like the most...
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  Woke.
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  The most on the nose story about a man who is gay.
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  Yeah.
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  He's wearing a pink...
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  He-Man.
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  Guys, nuance, like it's not even nuanced.
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  I mean...
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  I call this the rage against the machine effect.
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  Oh, it is the rage against the machine effect.
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  And I'm sitting here just going like, holy hell.
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  Holy hell.
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  It's bad.
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  And like, that's when I guess Burt and Ernie
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  made me think about it.
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  But then again, it is He-Man coming out.
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  Again, won't see it.
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  Really busy.
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  Well, I hope we hear from Burt and Ernie,
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  our gay New York couple.
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  That'd be great.
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  I do, I do.
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  I want to see who they're...
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  If Burt and Ernie are rooting for the Knicks,
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  I'm willing to listen.
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  Okay, well then I'm going to do some due diligence
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  and figure it out.
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  I also, before we move on from this,
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  I do want to talk about Jalen Brunson
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  a little bit right now.
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  Because we actually do need to acknowledge this.
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  I specifically need to acknowledge this
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  because I have been a little bit
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  of a Jalen Brunson doubter.
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  Not that I've never thought he...
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  I've always thought he's clearly a star.
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  Is it the short guard thing?
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  I'm against short people.
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  You know how it is.
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  I know, I know.
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  You've always said that.
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  And I, like, it's not that I was ever like,
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  oh, Brunson sucks.
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  I just couldn't quite buy into him
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  as a like starred sort of like,
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  this is the kind of player you need to win a title.
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  He's a star.
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  I'm just, that's just not true.
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  He's a star.
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  He scored 13 of his 30 points in the fourth quarter,
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  including the like five points
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  in the final two minutes, right?
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  That increased his clutch points total
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  over the past four years to 144.
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  The next highest player with clutch points
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  is Shea Gildas Alexander with 84.
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  Nikola Jokic has 69.
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  Jason Tatum has 65.
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  These are three people who've won titles, right?
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  These are three of the best players in the league.
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  Two MVPs and another one that's been an MVP contender.
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  And Jalen Brunson is nearly double the next best player.
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  For his career, Brunson has averaged 1.47 points per minute
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  in the clutch on 63.4% true shooting.
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  By comparison, SGA's 0.96 led this past regular season
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  on 66, on 65% true shooting.
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  Like this guy is on another level.
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  And here's the crazy one.
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  He's averaging nine and a half points per fourth quarter
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  during this playoff run.
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  Only five players in the play-by-play era
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  have averaged more fourth quarter points
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  in the conference semifinals or beyond.
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  Then the other ones are Dirk Nowitzki,
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  LeBron James, and Kobe Bryant, and Michael Jordan.
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  So basically what we're saying, he's doing really good.
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  Like those-
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  He's doing really, really good.
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  Those are like four of the best players
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  in the history of the NBA.
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  Yeah, but you're-
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  This is nuts.
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  You're sitting here pointing out
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  the impressive number of Jalen Brunson.
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  And I appreciate that.
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  I appreciate what he's accomplishing right now.
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  I appreciate the numbers and the names
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  that he's being named with.
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  That's not the numbers that impressed me.
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  What's it? Okay.
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  Okay.
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  How many did Yoker have again?
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  For his like, oh, I don't know.
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  I don't know what you're asking me.
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  Yeah, you said the points are-
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  Oh, 69.
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  Nice.
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  You're so stupid.
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  Nice.
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  That was very Gronk of you.
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  Very Gronk of you.
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  Nice.
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  Exactly.
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  Yeah, Jalen Brunson's pretty great too.
• 14:18
  No, but I mean, I genuinely like,
• 14:22
  I don't like that we get to a place
• 14:25
  where we can't appreciate the insanity.
• 14:27
  And we don't have the kind of conversations
• 14:29
  around the NBA and around NBA media
• 14:32
  that could facilitate really understanding
• 14:35
  what Jalen Brunson is doing.
• 14:36
  Because we're all so obsessed with Wemby.
• 14:38
  And that's true.
• 14:39
  Wemby is an alien.
• 14:40
  He's going to do the greatest-
• 14:41
  I will say, I don't think Jalen Brunson
• 14:42
  has fallen through the cracks here.
• 14:43
  He is.
• 14:44
  I mean, this-
• 14:46
  Everyone is talking about this guy.
• 14:47
  We should be talking about, so last year,
• 14:48
  think about how we talked about Tyrese Halliburton
• 14:50
  last year before he got hurt.
• 14:51
  We're not talking about Brunson like that nationally.
• 14:54
  We must be on different forums and places
• 14:57
  and conversations because we're talking about it
• 15:00
  even here in LA on our station.
• 15:03
  But are you talking about it like,
• 15:04
  wow, Brunson's incredible?
• 15:05
  Are we talking about-
• 15:06
  We are always talking about it.
• 15:07
  This is one of the greatest NBA runs
• 15:08
  we've ever fucking seen.
• 15:09
  Oh no, and you can't deny it.
• 15:11
  We're all just saying, and then he just does what he does.
• 15:15
  Now we expect Jalen Brunson to do this.
• 15:17
  Jalen Brunson isn't good.
• 15:18
  Maybe that's what I'm pushing up against.
• 15:19
  Jalen Brunson's one of the best in the league
• 15:21
  and he has been for a couple of years
• 15:23
  and now he's proving it in the space
• 15:25
  where all the doubters had it.
• 15:27
  Now there is no doubt.
• 15:28
  The doubt is now over.
• 15:30
  But I feel like-
• 15:30
  He is that guy.
• 15:31
  I don't like that we haven't,
• 15:33
  to your, the point that you're making is exactly right,
• 15:36
  but it's almost like, but he never got the embracing
• 15:40
  of like, well, we just know Jalen Brunson does this stuff.
• 15:42
  He never got-
• 15:44
  He never got the moment where we all look at this and say,
• 15:48
  hey, so this is fucking insane.
• 15:50
  What I want to hear out of someone's mouth
• 15:52
  is this is one of the greatest playoff performances
• 15:55
  in the history of the NBA, bar none.
• 15:57
  Unquestionably.
• 15:58
  Because that is the reality.
• 15:59
  That is absolutely the reality.
• 16:00
  But I gotta say, like, I think the reason
• 16:02
  the narrative around him is simply this,
• 16:04
  because he kept getting hurt, getting into this spot.
• 16:06
  He's never gotten to this spot.
• 16:08
  Now he's gotten to this spot and he's still doing it.
• 16:11
  But here's the thing.
• 16:12
  If he gets hurt tonight, I do not want this.
• 16:14
  I do not want this.
• 16:15
  No, no, no, of course.
• 16:16
  If he gets hurt tonight though, I can't stress enough.
• 16:18
  The narrative just flips right back
• 16:19
  that he can't get you all the way to the end.
• 16:21
  Now it's a stupid, it's stupid.
• 16:22
  It's absolutely bullshit.
• 16:24
  But I know how this works and you know how this works
• 16:27
  and that's what we'll deal with.
• 16:29
  Which again, utter bullshit.
• 16:31
  But right now, generational type of playoff run
• 16:35
  that he's having right now, he's in the finals.
• 16:37
  He won game one at the end of the fourth quarter
• 16:39
  the way he did it.
• 16:40
  The moment he hit that corner three
• 16:42
  when he finally had a clean look, that was the dagger.
• 16:45
  And that, by the way, only put them up by what?
• 16:47
  Two, three points?
• 16:48
  That was the fucking dagger.
• 16:49
  They didn't come back off the mat after that shot.
• 16:53
  Jalen Brunson is absolutely one of the very best in the NBA
• 16:57
  and I cannot stress this enough.
• 17:00
  I don't want him to win the finals.
• 17:02
  I don't want it for Knicks fans.
• 17:03
  I do, I want to see it.
• 17:06
  The other thing is like-
• 17:07
  I will be mad if he does it
• 17:08
  because I love Jalen Brunson.
• 17:09
  I love this Knicks team.
• 17:09
  It's more fun.
• 17:10
  These guys are great.
• 17:12
  These guys are awesome.
• 17:12
  I love a good Spurs fan, don't get me wrong.
• 17:14
  But like, I want the New York of it all.
• 17:16
  I want the insanity of it all.
• 17:18
  I want to hear weirdos on the street
• 17:20
  saying stuff that is so insufferable.
• 17:22
  I just want it.
• 17:23
  But you know what?
• 17:24
  Either way, one of us will be happy and that's good.
• 17:27
  All right.
• 17:29
  This has been the big news of the day.
• 17:31
  I don't know.
• 17:34
  What did someone say this time?
• 17:36
  No, no, no.
• 17:36
  I'm laughing at what the big news of the day is
• 17:38
  because I think it's funny
• 17:39
  because I believe I was on this show with you
• 17:41
  telling you this is what's going to happen.
• 17:43
  Yes.
• 17:44
  This is always what was going to happen.
• 17:46
  Well, it hasn't quite happened yet,
• 17:47
  but the Bears Board of Directors has voted
• 17:50
  to advance on the stadium in Hammond, Indiana,
• 17:54
  which means that they would be moving
• 17:56
  the Chicago Bears out of Chicago
• 17:58
  and into a town across the state line in Indiana.
• 18:02
  The franchise announced this on Friday
• 18:04
  that the Board of Directors voted,
• 18:06
  you know, world-class stadium, blah, blah, blah.
• 18:09
  Notably, this is the first time the franchise's board
• 18:11
  has voted on any stadium site.
• 18:13
  The development comes a few days
• 18:14
  after the state of Illinois did not pass legislation
• 18:16
  that would have ensured certainty
• 18:18
  in the Bears' property tax
• 18:19
  for the Arlington Heights, Illinois stadium site.
• 18:24
  Warren has said that he would like the stadium project
• 18:26
  to be certain by early summer.
• 18:27
  I'm sure he would.
• 18:28
  The Chicago mayor has already pushed back
• 18:30
  saying it's not a done deal.
• 18:31
  Governor J.B. Pritzker has said
• 18:33
  the Bears' shifting positions have hindered their progress
• 18:36
  on trying to keep them in Chicago.
• 18:40
  You and I talked about this before, that it was stupid.
• 18:42
  So we don't necessarily have to reiterate
• 18:44
  the idea of this being stupid.
• 18:45
  No, I just, can I just say this?
• 18:48
  This is my take on this.
• 18:50
  All, every football traditionalist,
• 18:53
  every one of you that pushes back on a rule
• 18:55
  or something that needs to be changed
• 18:57
  or a name changed because of like an old name
• 19:00
  that might be fucking racist or something,
• 19:02
  all of you traditionalists,
• 19:04
  you can't change this because of football history.
• 19:05
  Yeah, the fucking Bears, due to financials
• 19:08
  that they are not getting to their liking
• 19:09
  with billionaire ownership is moving out of fucking Chicago.
• 19:14
  Shut the fuck up and point at that.
• 19:16
  Just point at that forever.
• 19:17
  If you don't point at that forever
• 19:18
  and go absolutely ape shit about the Bears
• 19:21
  leaving Chicago for cheaper land in another state,
• 19:26
  that you honestly should never open your mouth
• 19:29
  one more time about a team having to change their name,
• 19:32
  about a team having to change a logo,
• 19:34
  about pink spikes being done, about Pride Night.
• 19:37
  You just shut the fuck up about all of it.
• 19:40
  Every single time, if you think about opening your mouth,
• 19:42
  slap yourself in the fucking faith
• 19:44
  and close your fucking mouth.
• 19:46
  The end.
• 19:46
  I don't wanna hear it ever again
• 19:48
  from any of you fake ass traditionalists
• 19:50
  if you aren't going bat shit insane about this.
• 19:53
  Have a great night.
• 19:53
  I really like that you made that point
• 19:56
  the way that you just did
• 19:57
  because there's a lot of people that I've seen
• 19:59
  talking about this as it's like,
• 20:01
  well, this isn't gonna happen until 20, 30 something.
• 20:04
  Everybody's freaking out over nothing, blah, blah, blah.
• 20:07
  I am so tired of people not understanding
• 20:10
  what these billionaires and what these owners are doing.
• 20:14
  They are telling their fans
• 20:16
  that they are going to move out of
• 20:18
  one of the most historic stadiums in the country
• 20:22
  to Indiana, moving this historic franchise to another state
• 20:27
  because they won't pay for their own stadium.
• 20:31
  I've talked about this on the show again.
• 20:33
  I'm gonna talk about it on the show again.
• 20:37
  These billionaires, no matter what they tell you,
• 20:40
  no matter how poor they are,
• 20:42
  no matter how team poor they are, right?
• 20:45
  They're all their money's in the team,
• 20:47
  that every single one of them can afford to build
• 20:50
  a billions plus dollar stadium, every single one.
• 20:54
  They get outside investors, they invest it themselves.
• 20:57
  They put the money into the stadium,
• 20:59
  they get the money back
• 21:00
  because they own a fucking NFL team
• 21:03
  and they will have it paid off
• 21:05
  in a matter of fucking couple years.
• 21:08
  That is what Robert Kraft did.
• 21:10
  That is what they did with the Meadowlands.
• 21:12
  That is what they, whatever it's called now.
• 21:15
  What is it called now?
• 21:16
  MetLife.
• 21:17
  MetLife.
• 21:17
  Yeah.
• 21:18
  Whatever, right?
• 21:19
  It's a piece of shit, but yeah.
• 21:20
  But it's a piece of shit
• 21:22
  that the fucking people didn't have to pay for.
• 21:25
  So at least I'll take it.
• 21:26
  Gillette's not exactly a beautiful spot either,
• 21:28
  but it's not the worst.
• 21:29
  So here's the thing.
• 21:31
  Stop doing, to Cody's point,
• 21:34
  you guys are so fucking dumb about this
• 21:37
  and we're constantly in every other facet of the world,
• 21:40
  every other facet of society talking about
• 21:42
  what billionaires are doing,
• 21:42
  what corporations are doing and how they're fucking us.
• 21:44
  These people can all afford this.
• 21:46
  You know how when you take out a business loan
• 21:48
  to start a business,
• 21:49
  the whole point is that you're gonna make that money back
• 21:51
  and the loan was fucking worth it, right?
• 21:53
  That's the whole thing.
• 21:54
  That's what billionaires can do
• 21:56
  for goddamn fucking stadiums.
• 21:58
  They make so much money off your asses
• 22:00
  and now they're gonna move.
• 22:01
  There's gonna be, think about this,
• 22:02
  two NFL stadiums in the state of Indiana.
• 22:08
  What do you fucking mean?
• 22:09
  Not in Illinois.
• 22:12
  Two in Indiana.
• 22:14
  I don't know what to say.
• 22:16
  I'm gonna say this again
• 22:17
  and I'm gonna say it till I'm blue in the face
• 22:18
  because I say it on every single show I'm on.
• 22:20
  I said it on this show this week
• 22:22
  and I even said it to Dee Fish
• 22:23
  and actually his eyes even lit up
• 22:24
  because he's like,
• 22:25
  I've actually never heard it said this way.
• 22:26
  I'm gonna say it again in case we have a new viewer.
• 22:27
  I've said this on the show.
• 22:28
  Oh, my mom loves this.
• 22:29
  I want you to understand what numbers are.
• 22:32
  Before you start talking about millionaires,
• 22:34
  billionaires and trillionaires,
• 22:36
  just understand what fucking numbers are.
• 22:41
  Just, and what's the one thing
• 22:42
  we can all relatively understand?
• 22:46
  Time.
• 22:46
  Time is something that is precious to all of us.
• 22:49
  So I ask again this question
• 22:51
  to everybody who will listen
• 22:52
  and I hate that I have to explain this
• 22:54
  that I would to a child,
• 22:55
  but truly, if you hear it this way
• 22:57
  and put it into perspective,
• 22:58
  you might fucking wake up.
• 23:00
  How long is one million seconds, Tanya?
• 23:04
  11.7 days.
• 23:07
  Exactly 11.7 days.
• 23:10
  A billion seconds, however, is 31.7 years.
• 23:15
  Years.
• 23:18
  11.7 days is a million seconds.
• 23:22
  31.7 years is a billion seconds.
• 23:26
  Equate it to money now.
• 23:28
  And let's look at it this way.
• 23:30
  Tanya, you have a billion dollars.
• 23:33
  Me, I have a million dollars.
• 23:36
  Kids in the class,
• 23:37
  how much more money does Tanya have than Cody?
• 23:40
  The answer is a billion fucking dollars.
• 23:45
  Fuck!
• 23:48
  God!
• 23:49
  We're going to be like this
• 23:50
  every single time this happens.
• 23:52
  So if this bit doesn't work for you,
• 23:55
  maybe two dollars on those days.
• 23:55
  We're going to repeat it on Monday,
• 23:57
  next Thursday,
• 23:58
  because we're doing the show next Thursday,
• 24:00
  the following week.
• 24:01
  We're going to change the fucking title to this sentence
• 24:04
  if we have to,
• 24:05
  till you all fucking get it.
• 24:08
  A billion dollars is a billion more than a million, gang.
• 24:12
  I just got nothing.
• 24:13
  I read a tweet about the CBA
• 24:15
  and they're like,
• 24:16
  what are we going to do?
• 24:17
  Are we going to root for the millionaires
• 24:18
  or the billionaires?
• 24:20
  The fucking millionaires, idiot!
• 24:23
  You wrote for the fucking millionaires!
• 24:25
  Every time.
• 24:27
  Every time.
• 24:27
  It's so easy.
• 24:29
  Life is really hard.
• 24:31
  Well, it's hard when you have a brain
• 24:32
  and you know things.
• 24:34
  It really is.
• 24:35
  It's very hard.
• 24:36
  Now granted,
• 24:38
  we are beautiful,
• 24:39
  but that's all we have right now.
• 24:40
  That's all we got.
• 24:42
  Let's go to headline number three.
• 24:44
  Okay.
• 24:45
  So this is just a little fun side note.
• 24:47
  A lot of people have been a little confused
• 24:49
  about what happened with Shador Sanders
• 24:50
  and his payday from the NFLPA.
• 24:52
  I thought that was quite a payday.
• 24:54
  And I didn't really,
• 24:55
  I'll admit,
• 24:55
  I don't know the details.
• 24:56
  Okay.
• 24:57
  Yeah.
• 24:58
  So here's why he was paid a record $17.7 million
• 25:03
  by the NFLPA.
• 25:04
  So he signed a four-year contract
• 25:06
  worth about four and a half million dollars
• 25:08
  after being selected in the fifth round.
• 25:10
  Now, when he signed this deal,
• 25:15
  you go into this relationship with the NFLPA
• 25:19
  and they are going to pay you
• 25:20
  for certain things that are sold
• 25:22
  that are part of,
• 25:24
  attached to your name, right?
• 25:25
  So this was disclosed from the NFLPA's annual report,
• 25:30
  which was filed this week with the Department of Labor.
• 25:34
  And across 13 installments
• 25:36
  to his limited liability corporation,
• 25:38
  which is SS2 Legendary,
• 25:41
  the largest payment was totaled more than 9.2 million.
• 25:44
  It came from largely cards,
• 25:48
  playing, what are they?
• 25:49
  Trading cards.
• 25:50
  Oh, okay.
• 25:51
  So trading cards, collectibles, video games,
• 25:54
  jerseys were not included in this.
• 25:56
  Fascinating.
• 25:57
  So his jersey sales were not included in this.
• 25:59
  The figures reported by the NFLPA
• 26:01
  do not take into account the individual endorsement deals
• 26:04
  or anything like that.
• 26:05
  This is all stuff that's licensing
• 26:07
  around his NFL persona.
• 26:09
  And the craziest part about this
• 26:11
  is the biggest payout of this kind prior to this
• 26:14
  was Tom Brady making nine and a half million dollars
• 26:16
  during the 2021, 2022 season,
• 26:18
  which was his final season in the NFL, I believe.
• 26:21
  So that is, he has destroyed that.
• 26:26
  I mean, no one even came,
• 26:27
  no one's even come close.
• 26:29
  In recent years, no one's come close
• 26:30
  for Tom Brady's to be the most at 9.7 or whatever the fuck.
• 26:34
  That's insane.
• 26:36
  Here's my takeaway.
• 26:38
  I'm listening.
• 26:40
  I think we've talked about this before on the show,
• 26:42
  but if not, we're talking about it now.
• 26:44
  Shador Sanders, as much as everybody wants to talk about
• 26:48
  how there's all the hate train around him in the media
• 26:52
  and there's the haters on the internet,
• 26:54
  this is a perfect example of how online discourse
• 26:58
  does not always translate to the real world ramifications
• 27:03
  of someone's popularity.
• 27:06
  Shador Sanders, by this metric,
• 27:08
  is the most popular NFL player.
• 27:11
  Interesting.
• 27:12
  In terms of like what you're able to license
• 27:15
  through some of this stuff,
• 27:16
  the most popular rookie player, right?
• 27:18
  Or person on the specific.
• 27:20
  So like the reality is there is,
• 27:24
  what happened by him being drafted in the fifth round
• 27:28
  was it upped all of the value of anything
• 27:31
  that would be associated with his name
• 27:33
  because everybody said,
• 27:35
  this guy's supposed to be a first round pick.
• 27:37
  He got drafted in the fifth round.
• 27:39
  We're basically talking about gambling, right?
• 27:43
  Well, if this-
• 27:43
  So they all bought high on him.
• 27:45
  This rookie card-
• 27:46
  Or bought low.
• 27:47
  Right.
• 27:48
  Could be worth so much money if Shador Sanders,
• 27:51
  who was passed over in whatever else,
• 27:53
  is now going to eventually be the starting quarterback.
• 27:56
  Maybe he makes the playoffs.
• 27:57
  Maybe he wins a Superbowl someday
• 27:58
  and I have a Shador Sanders rookie card.
• 28:00
  Yeah.
• 28:01
  That's what happened.
• 28:02
  That's funny.
• 28:04
  I have actually,
• 28:05
  I guess I've never really thought about it this way
• 28:07
  because I was never that guy during the PA
• 28:09
  when it came to like cards and all that.
• 28:10
  I got a check that was like collective,
• 28:12
  but it wasn't like a huge check.
• 28:13
  You didn't get 17 million?
• 28:14
  No, it slowed down.
• 28:15
  Damn.
• 28:16
  But I got a nice check.
• 28:17
  It was cool.
• 28:18
  But I will say the,
• 28:19
  it is fascinating that people buying into that
• 28:22
  because I don't even think about the card aspect
• 28:25
  and the collectibles aspect as almost futures buying.
• 28:29
  Right.
• 28:30
  Because it's so passe.
• 28:32
  Right.
• 28:33
  Like when I say passe,
• 28:34
  that was like collectibles was a big thing
• 28:35
  in the 90s and the 80s.
• 28:37
  I feel like in the 2000s,
• 28:39
  it kind of dissipated and it hasn't become.
• 28:41
  Now, like I always say,
• 28:42
  whatever's old is always somehow new again.
• 28:45
  It's funny enough.
• 28:45
  I just did an interview the other day
• 28:46
  and they were asking me my thoughts on radio.
• 28:47
  I'm like, I think radio,
• 28:48
  especially sports radio is going to have a massive uptick
• 28:50
  because I think it's something that's old
• 28:52
  that becomes new again type of thing.
• 28:53
  Collectibles.
• 28:54
  Like records.
• 28:55
  Like records.
• 28:56
  How vinyl's a thing again.
• 28:57
  Obviously to a more niche audience,
• 28:58
  but collectibles, if it's generating this much money,
• 29:01
  let's be real clear.
• 29:02
  This is not a niche market.
• 29:04
  This is a market.
• 29:05
  Yeah.
• 29:06
  Well, and that's,
• 29:07
  but I do think that there is something very specific
• 29:08
  to Shador Sanders and by what people saw.
• 29:11
  Fascinating.
• 29:12
  And what they think can happen.
• 29:13
  The opportunity they saw there.
• 29:14
  Because if you look at the next highest being Tom Brady
• 29:17
  in 2021, 2022.
• 29:18
  That's wild.
• 29:19
  That was his final season.
• 29:20
  It was that season where he had retired
• 29:21
  and then came back.
• 29:22
  Right.
• 29:23
  That's wild.
• 29:24
  So what everybody did was,
• 29:25
  oh, this is officially Tom Brady's final season.
• 29:27
  Now we're buying the cards and the merchandise
• 29:30
  and all the collectibles.
• 29:32
  It's the exact same thing they did with him as a rookie.
• 29:35
  So really fascinating.
• 29:37
  I love that that's,
• 29:38
  because that's a crazy ass payday.
• 29:40
  Like Shador Sanders making that much money
• 29:42
  off of being in the NFL is on this like
• 29:46
  very small rookie deal.
• 29:48
  Iconic.
• 29:49
  And there's something for,
• 29:51
  I don't know how young,
• 29:52
  I don't think we have a ton of super young viewers,
• 29:54
  but like,
• 29:55
  I don't think people understand how big of a like personality
• 29:59
  truly Deion Sanders was in his prime.
• 30:02
  Prime time as a nickname made the most sense for him
• 30:07
  over any player that's ever existed.
• 30:09
  Like he really was exactly that dude
• 30:13
  that didn't give a fuck
• 30:14
  and made a lot of money not giving a fuck
• 30:15
  while a bunch of people told him
• 30:16
  that he could never be like that.
• 30:18
  And still, you know,
• 30:19
  like there was so many people pushing back
• 30:22
  on his personality at the time.
• 30:24
  And so it's really crazy to watch Shador do the same thing.
• 30:29
  Yeah.
• 30:30
  It's wild.
• 30:30
  And he's getting paid for it as he should.
• 30:32
  So there you go.
• 30:33
  And I'm glad I was able to teach you a little bit
• 30:34
  about what happened.
• 30:35
  I appreciate that.
• 30:36
  You taught me.
• 30:37
  And now I've learned that the actual commodities market
• 30:40
  like that is actually a real market.
• 30:42
  Yeah, absolutely.
• 30:43
  Never would have thought that.
• 30:44
  I never thought that market would return.
• 30:47
  I knew the card thing was kind of making
• 30:49
  a massive jump again,
• 30:51
  but I really didn't think about collectibles.
• 30:52
  I still don't think it's as big as it was,
• 30:55
  but there's a perfect little cocktail
• 30:57
  of the, I see this opportunity
• 31:00
  as this turning into some sort of investment.
• 31:01
  Honest question.
• 31:02
  And I would love to see numbers on this
• 31:03
  because I doubt, you might not know this,
• 31:05
  but if anyone does, please get in the chat and tell us.
• 31:09
  Do you think that NFT's absolute embarrassing destruction
• 31:13
  led to like a resurgence of actual tangible collectibles?
• 31:19
  I have no numbers on that,
• 31:20
  but common sense would indicate it, right?
• 31:23
  That's where my mind is.
• 31:24
  Yeah, it absolutely does feel
• 31:25
  like that's something that could have happened
• 31:27
  Well, not only that, there's the NFT's,
• 31:30
  there's the fall of Bitcoin and digital coins.
• 31:33
  So like digital world is like the metaverse didn't take off.
• 31:36
  It's almost like-
• 31:36
  People are starting to realize
• 31:38
  that anything that lives on the internet isn't quite as-
• 31:41
  It's not as guaranteed as you think.
• 31:43
  All those movies that are being ripped
• 31:45
  from the internet for the,
• 31:46
  like there are a bunch of movies,
• 31:47
  actual real films that don't exist anywhere anymore.
• 31:50
  You cannot just find them.
• 31:51
  You can't pay for them.
• 31:52
  They don't exist.
• 31:53
  So people are starting to freak out.
• 31:55
  I have so many DVDs still
• 31:57
  and I don't want to get rid of them because I have them
• 32:00
  and I love them.
• 32:01
  So I agree.
• 32:03
  There is something to this.
• 32:05
  Like you said, records.
• 32:06
  What's old becomes new again.
• 32:07
  It's just a weird thing how we always do that circularly.
• 32:10
  I love this for Shidori.
• 32:11
  You know how I ride for him.
• 32:12
  So we love this.
• 32:13
  I know you do.
• 32:14
  All right, let's go to headline number four.
• 32:15
  Let's do a quick little recap
• 32:17
  because I actually have so much information
• 32:19
  about both of these subjects.
• 32:20
  So yeah, I actually, I'll tackle the Garrett trade,
• 32:25
  but I would love first to hear
• 32:26
  about where the MLB-CBA contract negotiations are at.
• 32:31
  I'm sorry, CBA negotiations are at.
• 32:32
  I will tell you exactly where they are.
• 32:33
  They haven't actually started.
• 32:35
  That's the answer.
• 32:36
  I hate to say this.
• 32:38
  I do appreciate Major League Baseball's PR stunt
• 32:40
  in sending that ridiculous cap
• 32:43
  and floor that they threw that way.
• 32:46
  Everything about it makes absolutely no sense,
• 32:48
  just even by the simple metrics of comparing them
• 32:51
  to the other major sports leagues,
• 32:52
  considering the fact that the purpose of a cap
• 32:55
  is to spend 90% of said cap,
• 32:57
  but you're suggesting we pay 65%.
• 32:59
  That alone just doesn't make any sense to begin with,
• 33:01
  not to mention you're not gonna open up your books
• 33:03
  and actually show how much money is going to be made.
• 33:04
  So this is all like a clown show to begin with.
• 33:07
  As far as I can tell,
• 33:09
  and I did appreciate Bruce Meyer
• 33:10
  putting out a very strong no to it,
• 33:12
  especially after things,
• 33:12
  and he even went as far to say
• 33:13
  that this is actually an embarrassing start.
• 33:17
  It's not, so much so that this is the truth.
• 33:20
  It hasn't started
• 33:21
  because what the owners proposed was not a proposal.
• 33:25
  That was a PR stunt.
• 33:26
  That's it.
• 33:27
  That was put out into the universe so you all can read it
• 33:29
  and somehow regurgitate that these owners are cash poor
• 33:34
  and can't afford players.
• 33:37
  I'm going to cite this until I die, apparently.
• 33:41
  The San Diego Padres were sold to the Seidler family
• 33:43
  in 2012 for $800 million.
• 33:46
  Peter Seidler sadly passed away a couple of years ago,
• 33:48
  but in that time, that man put so much into this team.
• 33:52
  He rebranded it to like the brown and gold again.
• 33:56
  The city got so behind them, the Chargers left.
• 33:58
  So he went double down and said,
• 34:01
  no, Padres are San Diego's team.
• 34:03
  The end, brought back the brown,
• 34:05
  stadiums are being sold out,
• 34:06
  invested money into his team,
• 34:10
  brought in guys like Eric Cosmer.
• 34:11
  I'm not saying Eric Cosmer was like the end all be all
• 34:14
  by any stretch.
• 34:16
  But he was a huge player on a World Series winning team.
• 34:18
  He had a rough go in San Diego, but you know what?
• 34:20
  He was, that was like a statement.
• 34:21
  The Padres are sending money.
• 34:22
  I'm like, okay, but if that's all they spend,
• 34:24
  I think this is going to like, I appreciate it,
• 34:26
  but what is it going to do?
• 34:27
  Then they spend Manny Machado.
• 34:28
  Then they spend, you know, Xander Bogarts.
• 34:31
  They spend Fernando Tatis Jr.,
• 34:33
  who was, you know, an MVP candidate at the time.
• 34:34
  Like, let's be real clear.
• 34:35
  They invested, they get every major pitcher that's available.
• 34:38
  If the Dodgers are into a team,
• 34:40
  so are the goddamn Padres.
• 34:41
  Like they're heavy hitters and their payroll is up there.
• 34:46
  Now, is it as high as the Dodgers?
• 34:46
  No, but it's high.
• 34:47
  It's in the top.
• 34:48
  I believe it's in the top 10.
• 34:49
  I've been thinking six maybe right now.
• 34:51
  The Padres have been in a force for the last couple of years
• 34:53
  and they've been a contender for the last couple of years.
• 34:56
  And after Peter died,
• 34:57
  the family squabbled over the ownership.
• 34:59
  So they sold it for $3.9 billion in 12 years.
• 35:06
  And I want to say that again.
• 35:07
  I wish anything can be this,
• 35:09
  you can invest in anything like this,
• 35:11
  but in 12 years, an $800 million investment
• 35:15
  turned into 3.9 fucking billion dollars.
• 35:20
  800 million to 3.9 billion in 12 years.
• 35:27
  And you're trying to tell me,
• 35:28
  and by the way, San Diego is a quote unquote,
• 35:31
  small market team, in case you're wondering.
• 35:33
  You're telling me that all these owners are poor.
• 35:37
  I'm sorry, you don't get to claim to be a capitalist
• 35:40
  and then stop being a capitalist just out of nowhere.
• 35:45
  Like we can't afford this,
• 35:46
  then you shouldn't own the team, the end.
• 35:48
  You can't handle the finances
• 35:51
  of this billion dollar organization.
• 35:52
  And during, by the way,
• 35:54
  the biggest boom in major league baseball of our lifetime.
• 35:58
  Like we are in the midst
• 36:00
  of a major league baseball worldwide boom.
• 36:04
  And you're telling me none of you
• 36:06
  can afford the player's salary.
• 36:08
  You're lying.
• 36:09
  And it's maddening how much you're lying.
• 36:11
  I think people do forget that like really in our lifetime,
• 36:14
  the only time that baseball even had a boom
• 36:18
  was post that CBA when they came back
• 36:23
  and it was the steroid era into the early 2000s.
• 36:26
  Like we saw there was decreasing, decreasing ratings
• 36:29
  and then they boomed a little bit,
• 36:31
  but it was a short amount of time
• 36:32
  and it was for an unsustainable reason.
• 36:36
  It is actually very rare in the last 40 years
• 36:40
  for us to see things trend up for the MLB.
• 36:43
  Yeah, and it's trending very up.
• 36:45
  For MLB, by the way, when I say the MLB,
• 36:47
  it drives people nuts.
• 36:48
  Oh, I don't care.
• 36:49
  I know it drives people nuts.
• 36:50
  For MLB.
• 36:51
  Those people need to shut the fuck up.
• 36:52
  It's annoying.
• 36:53
  That being said, I have a very similar pet peeve
• 36:55
  about Cracker Jack because it is singular.
• 36:57
  It's the name of the brand.
• 36:58
  It's not the actual.
• 36:59
  Buy me some peanuts and Cracker Jack.
• 37:02
  Yes, you're welcome.
• 37:04
  Just remember that.
• 37:06
  I don't mind if I never get back.
• 37:08
  You're welcome.
• 37:09
  You're all welcome for this information.
• 37:11
  Well done.
• 37:12
  It's Cracker Jack.
• 37:13
  And I do love Cracker Jack.
• 37:15
  It is actually quite good.
• 37:16
  I do, I do.
• 37:17
  But no, this is just, it's badening.
• 37:18
  It's badening how many fans fall hook, line
• 37:21
  and sinker for it.
• 37:22
  It's very maddening how many people,
• 37:24
  and the argument that is just the most insane argument
• 37:27
  that I see all the time.
• 37:28
  And I hate how often I see this.
• 37:30
  It's like, well, I want these to be affordable
• 37:32
  and the players are making so much money
• 37:33
  is making it unaffordable.
• 37:34
  Guys, if you think that if we put a salary cap,
• 37:37
  prices are going to go down, you're nuts.
• 37:40
  That's insane.
• 37:41
  You're officially the craziest person I've ever met.
• 37:41
  Have you checked in on the NFL?
• 37:43
  Have you checked in just recently, guys?
• 37:45
  And also, by the way, Donald Trump today came out
• 37:47
  and said that it should have a salary cap.
• 37:49
  So if there's ever fucking anything in your life
• 37:52
  to know that there shouldn't be a salary cap, that's it.
• 37:55
  That'll do it.
• 37:55
  I mean, I just got nothing else for you.
• 37:57
  By the way, I wanted to say that I looked up
• 37:58
  sort of the leadership for the players on the MLBPA.
• 38:02
  It looks like it's Marcus Simeon, Chris Bassett,
• 38:05
  Paul Skeens and Tarek Skubal are on there,
• 38:07
  which is like pretty wild.
• 38:09
  Brent Suter.
• 38:10
  Yes, we're good.
• 38:11
  Yeah, Pete Fairbanks.
• 38:13
  Brent Suter's on there, we're good.
• 38:14
  And Cedric Mullins.
• 38:15
  Brent Suter's a very smart guy.
• 38:16
  I'm very happy about that.
• 38:17
  Good, good, good, good, good.
• 38:19
  If I had my choice of a big leaguer to be in there,
• 38:22
  Brent Suter's on that list, no question.
• 38:24
  Perfect.
• 38:24
  So we're doing it.
• 38:25
  I mean, we already have talked about the fact
• 38:27
  that this PA is pretty exceptional
• 38:29
  in comparison to the other majors teams.
• 38:32
  WNBA and then the rest of the men's sports.
• 38:33
  No, no, Major League Baseball's PA
• 38:34
  is the strongest PA that there is.
• 38:36
  And salary cap is a non-starter.
• 38:38
  It's not a conversation starter.
• 38:40
  You sending that was a joke.
• 38:41
  So the players will never agree to it.
• 38:45
  I advise them to never agree to it.
• 38:47
  And I need, I think the Players Association
• 38:50
  doesn't care as much about the PR battle.
• 38:53
  I do think they should.
• 38:54
  Right.
• 38:55
  Because they are not winning the PR battle.
• 38:57
  Not necessarily losing it either,
• 38:59
  but we really need to start with education.
• 39:02
  That's what we need to do.
• 39:03
  We need to properly educate fans
• 39:05
  on exactly what we're talking about here.
• 39:07
  Well, I feel like that's what,
• 39:07
  and that's, we talk about this all the time.
• 39:10
  It's like, we have to educate people
• 39:14
  on billionaires and unions across the board, right?
• 39:20
  Like it's like, not even just in sports.
• 39:23
  It's just, that's the wonderful thing about sports
• 39:25
  is that it's pretty applicable to other industries.
• 39:29
  When you talk about how do you create worker solidarity
• 39:32
  against incredibly powerful corporations.
• 39:35
  That's why we always talk about the fact
• 39:37
  that sports themselves, you know,
• 39:41
  are pretty socialist for the billionaires,
• 39:44
  which is what's so fucking drives us nuts.
• 39:47
  No, it's only socialist when it's time to be socialist.
• 39:51
  And that's when they unionize together.
• 39:54
  It's revenue sharing.
• 39:55
  It's everybody gets the same amount of money.
• 39:57
  It's making sure that you're getting subsidized
• 40:00
  by the fucking state and the places that you're in.
• 40:02
  Isn't that weird how these really, really big capitalists
• 40:05
  just really love socialization when it suits them?
• 40:09
  Yeah, isn't that fucking interesting?
• 40:11
  31.7 years.
• 40:14
  That's how many seconds a billion seconds is.
• 40:17
  Remember, 31.7 years.
• 40:19
  I am 39.
• 40:21
  That is most of my life.
• 40:22
  That is, that's a long time.
• 40:25
  Your whole life is a billion.
• 40:26
  Yeah, essentially.
• 40:26
  Is a billionaire spending a dollar a second.
• 40:29
  Just fucking, can you guys please think about this?
• 40:32
  Please, just critically for a second.
• 40:34
  Now, on the flip side, on my end of things.
• 40:37
  So this is the one thing I talked about while I was away.
• 40:40
  I ran up to my room to make a video about-
• 40:44
  It's nuts.
• 40:45
  So I'm in the middle of a panel, right?
• 40:46
  I'm pretty sure there's a governor speaking.
• 40:49
  And I look at my phone and I see Miles Garrett
• 40:52
  has been traded to the Rams.
• 40:54
  And I look over at my friend Ashley next to me
• 40:56
  and I'm like, what the fuck?
• 40:58
  And she's like, what the fuck?
• 41:00
  And I was like, oh my God.
• 41:01
  He's like, excuse me, governor.
• 41:03
  Guys, Miles Garrett is now a Ram.
• 41:04
  By the way, I know.
• 41:05
  And there's like seven people in the room who care, right?
• 41:08
  And so that's happening.
• 41:10
  And by the way, side note,
• 41:12
  three minutes later I check my Instagram DMs.
• 41:15
  I've got an Instagram DM just being like complimentary
• 41:18
  of something that I'd said in my video from Doc Rivers.
• 41:21
  Hey, what up, Doc?
• 41:22
  Right, so I'm like, I'm very distracted.
• 41:24
  So we get out of this panel.
• 41:25
  I run up to my room and I do a video
• 41:28
  about the Miles Garrett trade.
• 41:30
  And the first thing that needs to be said is,
• 41:32
  well, we'll go over it real quick,
• 41:35
  but the Cleveland Browns got Jared Verse,
• 41:38
  a first round pick, a second round pick,
• 41:39
  and a third round pick.
• 41:40
  Can we real quick start with Jared Verse is a badass.
• 41:43
  Jared Verse, so Jared Verse, exceptional player.
• 41:46
  They got somebody who is only two years into his career,
• 41:49
  won Rookie Defensive Player of the Year,
• 41:51
  has been in two Pro Bowls in his two years,
• 41:53
  absolutely dynamic player.
• 41:54
  It's the one thing I hope doesn't get lost in this.
• 41:56
  Like Jared Verse is a fucking monster
• 41:58
  and everyone here will be really sad to lose.
• 42:00
  Yes, absolutely.
• 42:02
  Like it was, it's,
• 42:03
  you only get rid of Jared Verse for Miles Garrett.
• 42:06
  Literally, literally that's it.
• 42:08
  That's really it.
• 42:08
  Like no one else.
• 42:09
  So they did that.
• 42:10
  They gave up a first round, a second round,
• 42:11
  and a third round.
• 42:12
  And then they renegotiate, of course,
• 42:16
  because this is fucking Les Snead.
• 42:18
  He's unbelievable.
• 42:18
  Because this is Les Snead.
• 42:19
  He's unbelievable.
• 42:21
  They renegotiated his five-year deal so that,
• 42:24
  they renegotiated, the dude's still getting paid
• 42:26
  a shit ton of money,
• 42:27
  but of course the salary cap this year is going to hit
• 42:30
  and his actual base pay this year is going to be much lower
• 42:32
  so that they can try to win a goddamn fucking Super Bowl.
• 42:35
  Also the aspect that,
• 42:36
  this is also the aspect is, I did ask them,
• 42:39
  because I had Les Snead on the show this week.
• 42:41
  Yes, that's right, yes.
• 42:41
  So in case you don't know, I am.
• 42:43
  And I, he's my favorite NFL GM.
• 42:45
  He's unbelievable.
• 42:45
  And he was great, by the way.
• 42:46
  He's my favorite NFL GM.
• 42:48
  All I did all weekend was praise Les Snead.
• 42:50
  If you, people try to bring up Howie Roseman,
• 42:52
  I love Howie Roseman, but Les Snead is the guy.
• 42:54
  He's the guy. So continue.
• 42:55
  So Les Snead comes on the show.
• 42:56
  In case you don't know,
• 42:57
  I have a little show called Deficient Decker
• 42:59
  over there on The Fan LA.
• 43:01
  Is it Deficient Decker now?
• 43:02
  It is Deficient Decker now.
• 43:03
  Okay, hell yeah.
• 43:04
  Deficient Decker that you can check out on,
• 43:06
  of course, Monday through Friday,
• 43:07
  right here in Los Angeles, 97.1 FM.
• 43:09
  And of course you can check it out on YouTube
• 43:11
  at The Fan LA.
• 43:12
  Yes, I'm doing this all right now.
• 43:13
  They do not pay me to do this on this show,
• 43:15
  but I'm doing it anyways.
• 43:16
  You might as well.
• 43:17
  But I might as well,
• 43:18
  because I do want you guys to watch it.
• 43:19
  I'm really, really happy about the show.
• 43:21
  We had Les Snead,
• 43:21
  me and the great Derrick Fisher
• 43:23
  had Les Snead on this weekend.
• 43:24
  Man, I did get to ask him some very important questions
• 43:27
  and he did answer said questions.
• 43:29
  Okay, let's hear it.
• 43:29
  I won, I asked how long, far back this was going.
• 43:32
  And he said, I can't get into details,
• 43:33
  which tells me a long time.
• 43:35
  Which tells me there was tampering.
• 43:37
  A long time.
• 43:37
  But then here's one thing that he did kind of say
• 43:39
  around draft night, which has been reported.
• 43:42
  This did, it seems very much so
• 43:44
  that this led to them drafting Ty Simpson
• 43:47
  considering the fact they won't have
• 43:48
  a first round draft pick for a while.
• 43:48
  So they were aware of that.
• 43:50
  So this is some pretty good chess
• 43:52
  that they were playing early on.
• 43:53
  Yeah, I love that explanation for it
• 43:55
  because I still think Sean McVay is pissed
• 43:58
  about Ty Simpson.
• 43:59
  I still think that too,
• 44:01
  but if you really put it in this context,
• 44:03
  it does make.
• 44:04
  I believe in Les.
• 44:06
  It does make a little sense.
• 44:08
  It makes a lot more sense.
• 44:09
  And then you go a little bit into the future
• 44:11
  and you're seeing how this is all kind of shaking out.
• 44:13
  So I also asked him on top of that,
• 44:16
  the very big question here in Los Angeles.
• 44:18
  And it immediately started
• 44:20
  because you saw all the memes and everything.
• 44:22
  Then Trey Wingo puts out a tweet
• 44:24
  about this Photoshop of Miles Garrett next to Aaron Donald.
• 44:28
  And everyone's like, God, how great would this be?
• 44:29
  And then Trey Wingo,
• 44:31
  who doesn't really speak out of pocket all that often,
• 44:33
  just out of nowhere, throws out a tweet quote tweeting.
• 44:35
  Actually Trey Wingo is very out of pocket.
• 44:37
  Well, not normally when it comes to just future things
• 44:40
  that he seemed to have an information about.
• 44:43
  He's out of pocket about a lot of things,
• 44:45
  but he's not going to put out something like-
• 44:47
  Like an insider scoop.
• 44:49
  This was more of like a wink insider scoop.
• 44:51
  And kind of, he alluded that this is more than a fantasy.
• 44:54
  Can't talk about this more.
• 44:56
  So you talked to, did you ask Les?
• 44:59
  So immediately, Les, I got to ask you
• 45:02
  because I'd be remiss not to
• 45:03
  because everyone's talking about it.
• 45:05
  Is it possible that Aaron Donald can come back?
• 45:08
  And he immediately said, I will tell you this.
• 45:12
  It is far more possible right now than it was a year ago.
• 45:15
  What the fuck?
• 45:16
  And then he just goes, I know he's in great shape.
• 45:19
  I know he's even tweeted about coming back a little bit.
• 45:21
  I know he's Aaron Donald.
• 45:22
  And let's make no mistake.
• 45:24
  This is not tampering.
• 45:25
  He's allowed to say this because they own his rights.
• 45:29
  Yeah, no, he's not.
• 45:30
  There's no issue with that.
• 45:31
  Yeah, no issue at all.
• 45:32
  So he started putting, and he even put it on us.
• 45:33
  He's like, if you guys want to start a campaign
• 45:35
  to bring back Aaron Donald.
• 45:36
  And so we started said campaign.
• 45:38
  Aaron Donald today tweeted a photo from a football field.
• 45:42
  I saw that saying day one.
• 45:43
  Motherfucker, Aaron Donald's coming back.
• 45:45
  This team's going to be absurd.
• 45:48
  People have been saying this in my comments.
• 45:49
  And I was like, let Aaron Donald rest.
• 45:51
  Don't, you know, don't bother Aaron Donald.
• 45:53
  I didn't realize, I had no idea he was even considering.
• 45:57
  Aaron Donald was reached out by, is it Jordan Schultz report?
• 46:01
  Jordan Schultz and asked him if this is a possibility.
• 46:04
  And he did reply.
• 46:05
  And I quote, I am certainly flirting with the idea.
• 46:09
  I saw that today.
• 46:11
  I kind of thought that it was like him
• 46:13
  just enjoying the attention.
• 46:14
  I think this shit's real.
• 46:16
  That's fucking insane.
• 46:16
  I legitimately think that I've, I don't know this obviously.
• 46:20
  I'm just using my brain.
• 46:22
  I think there is an account in the Cayman Islands
• 46:24
  that has $35 million in it right now
• 46:27
  that he's supposed to go on a European trip
• 46:30
  in like 10 years to pick up.
• 46:32
  I gotta be honest, I, this entire thing,
• 46:36
  like regardless of whether they get Aaron Donald or not,
• 46:38
  they're in a really great spot.
• 46:40
  They made the NFC championship game last year
• 46:42
  with Matthew Stafford playing as the MVP.
• 46:46
  And I, the fuck them picks thing is so beautiful.
• 46:51
  And this is what I've told a lot of people in my comments
• 46:53
  and having the conversation, which is part of the,
• 46:56
  part of what I was talking about was don't let me,
• 46:58
  don't let your NFL GM tell you, you don't have the picks.
• 47:02
  You don't have the money.
• 47:03
  You don't have the cap space.
• 47:04
  Don't fucking tell me that because every,
• 47:07
  when they traded the farm away for the,
• 47:11
  all the picks they gave up for Matthew Stafford,
• 47:14
  the picks they gave up for Jalen Ramsey,
• 47:16
  the picks that they've given up for so,
• 47:18
  and all of the money that they've spent,
• 47:20
  there was a time where I was like, this guy is nuts.
• 47:23
  They're not gonna be able to track for so long.
• 47:25
  How are they gonna do?
• 47:25
  I could not believe it.
• 47:27
  And I have been, and I mean, the way that I was,
• 47:32
  like, it's taught me so much about the value,
• 47:36
  right, what you can do, the, here's the caveat.
• 47:38
  The one thing you need to do is be able to draft well.
• 47:41
  And so that's why he's my favorite fucking GM
• 47:44
  because he drafts the way he drafts,
• 47:46
  then manages the cap the way that he manages it,
• 47:49
  then spends his picks and his free agent spending
• 47:52
  the way that he spends them in his trade.
• 47:54
  It's every single, but don't tell me,
• 47:57
  if you can't pull it off,
• 47:58
  your GM's not doing their job right.
• 48:00
  And you know what, that's okay.
• 48:01
  Not everybody can be less need,
• 48:03
  but the one thing you gotta just admit is like,
• 48:05
  he's just not as good.
• 48:07
  Everything that this mother,
• 48:08
  he says I had to draft Ty Simpson
• 48:10
  because we won't have picks.
• 48:11
  I don't even believe he won't have picks.
• 48:12
  He didn't say that to me.
• 48:13
  That's what's being reported.
• 48:14
  And it does seem as though maneuvering was done for that.
• 48:16
  The idea, so like, even then I'm like,
• 48:18
  he'll somehow have picks and he'll end up with Lamar Jackson.
• 48:23
  By the way, I firmly believe this.
• 48:25
  I don't think Ty Simpson will ever play a game for the Rams.
• 48:28
  I think he's a trade piece.
• 48:30
  No, somehow Lamar Jackson's gonna be the starting quarterback
• 48:33
  of the goddamn Rams.
• 48:34
  Here's the future.
• 48:35
  Here's exactly what's gonna happen.
• 48:36
  They're gonna win the Superbowl this year
• 48:38
  and maybe Matthew Stafford stays on another year
• 48:40
  because it is 65, 60 million dollars.
• 48:41
  He's gotta retire if they win it.
• 48:42
  But if they win the Superbowl,
• 48:43
  he's probably gonna retire.
• 48:44
  You know what, I would too.
• 48:45
  Retire right there and then there you go.
• 48:47
  We have a quarterback situation.
• 48:49
  But it ain't gonna be Ty Simpson.
• 48:50
  Ty Simpson's gonna get a trade
• 48:51
  of the fucking Baltimore Ravens or the Cincinnati Bengals.
• 48:54
  And then it's gonna be Joe Burrow
• 48:55
  or fucking Lamar Jackson here.
• 48:57
  Watch, I'm fucking calling it now.
• 49:00
  This is what's happening.
• 49:01
  And if it's not either one of them,
• 49:02
  somehow it's Josh Allen.
• 49:04
  Somehow.
• 49:06
  That's how, or how about this?
• 49:09
  Another one, another possibility.
• 49:10
  I'm listening.
• 49:11
  Andy Reid retires.
• 49:13
  Patrick Mahomes, he's done.
• 49:15
  He's done in Kansas City.
• 49:17
  Yeah, fuck it, why not?
• 49:18
  We'll get Patrick Mahomes for another 10 years.
• 49:20
  Would anybody be surprised at this point?
• 49:22
  No, because that's the lesson he does.
• 49:23
  And everybody's like, it could never happen.
• 49:25
  He doesn't have the picks.
• 49:26
  He always somehow has the fucking picks.
• 49:29
  I don't know.
• 49:29
  He finds the picks.
• 49:30
  So yeah.
• 49:31
  So listen, I've been like,
• 49:34
  for the last couple of years,
• 49:35
  I've been on the Rams as kind of my NFC team.
• 49:37
  And now I'm really annoyed
• 49:38
  that other people are jumping on the bandwagon.
• 49:40
  I'm like, no, no, no.
• 49:41
  I jumped on the bandwagon before the bandwagon was cool.
• 49:42
  Hey, you wanna know when I jumped on it
• 49:43
  was when I started covering the Rams in 2016
• 49:47
  when Jeff Fisher was the coach.
• 49:48
  So I get credit.
• 49:49
  So I jumped on it a little bit in 19
• 49:51
  because I was like, you know what?
• 49:52
  I need an NFC team anyways.
• 49:53
  Well, Sean McVay had just been in the draft.
• 49:54
  And I was just like, you know what?
• 49:55
  I kinda wanna, I don't know.
• 49:56
  It's in LA, which is kinda cool to me.
• 49:59
  I'm like, you know what?
• 50:00
  I'm in, I'm in, I'm in, I'm in.
• 50:01
  I had to convince myself.
• 50:03
  It took me a few minutes.
• 50:03
  But I'm like, yeah, I'm a diehard Raider fan,
• 50:05
  but I need an NFC team.
• 50:07
  Yeah, they're NFC, so you're fine, yeah.
• 50:09
  I am so glad I made that decision.
• 50:11
  I'm enjoying the shit out of this.
• 50:13
  I will say they're not my NFC team.
• 50:15
  I do, like, they're LA.
• 50:17
  So I'm gonna like, in that way,
• 50:18
  and because they don't, they're not an NFC,
• 50:20
  they're not my NFC team, but I do love them.
• 50:22
  And more importantly, I don't even think I love the Rams.
• 50:26
  I love Lesney and Sean McVay.
• 50:28
  Fuck them, fuck them picks.
• 50:30
  Fuck them picks forever, man.
• 50:32
  All right, let's move over to Media Corner.
• 50:34
  A couple of quick hitters here.
• 50:36
  Nothing deep, which is kinda fun for us.
• 50:37
  For once, we don't have to go too, too hard
• 50:39
  into Media Corner, but I do love this.
• 50:41
  So in some fucking rare good news in Media Corner.
• 50:44
  Wow, look at us.
• 50:45
  Rare good news, we get to enjoy ourselves.
• 50:47
  Yes, Joel Klatt is replacing Kirk Herbstreit
• 50:50
  as the color commentator in EA Sports College Football 27.
• 50:53
  Mostly just wanted to talk about this
• 50:55
  because it's just a rare win for the good guys
• 50:57
  and sports fans in general.
• 50:59
  I love Joel Klatt.
• 51:01
  Yeah, that's a good one.
• 51:02
  First of all, so this is like kind of a twofold thing.
• 51:06
  I love Joel Klatt as much as I hate Kirk Herbstreit.
• 51:10
  And so that's what's like so perfect, right?
• 51:12
  Is that like, everything that Kirk Herbstreit is,
• 51:16
  is the opposite of, like Joel Klatt is so kind.
• 51:20
  He's, first of all, he's great at his job,
• 51:22
  but he's also just like a really good dude.
• 51:25
  A really good dude.
• 51:26
  So like, I need to be educated more on Kirk Herbstreit
• 51:29
  because I don't know enough about him
• 51:30
  and why everybody hates him.
• 51:31
  I'm assuming it's the reasons I'm assuming and think.
• 51:33
  Yeah, yeah.
• 51:34
  I mean, he's definitely like Trumpy and MAGA, right?
• 51:37
  But I hated him before that.
• 51:38
  I never liked his announcing or his work.
• 51:40
  Yeah, I mean, I hated his Ohio State homer
• 51:42
  to him before that.
• 51:43
  I hated it like a lot of,
• 51:44
  but he was, you know, good enough at his job.
• 51:46
  It wasn't like I was ever like,
• 51:47
  oh, you're not good at this job.
• 51:49
  He is, he's that classic,
• 51:53
  everything has got some sort of dog whistle in it.
• 51:55
  Yeah, no, no, I have seen those,
• 51:58
  I guess I just,
• 52:00
  I don't care about him all that much
• 52:02
  that it's just completely just missed me for the most part.
• 52:05
  I mean, I know he has a dog.
• 52:07
  That's literally the majority of my dog.
• 52:08
  Well, the dog died and then he got another dog.
• 52:10
  Well, I'm glad he got another dog.
• 52:11
  Yeah, sure.
• 52:12
  I'm fine with that.
• 52:13
  I always love a dog.
• 52:14
  I don't hold a dog responsible for their owner.
• 52:16
  Like Hitler had a dog.
• 52:17
  I felt bad for that one.
• 52:18
  Really?
• 52:19
  Yeah.
• 52:20
  Okay.
• 52:21
  I'm assuming.
• 52:21
  You're assuming he had a dog?
• 52:22
  I don't know.
• 52:23
  I mean, I've heard of it.
• 52:24
  Seems like he didn't have time for a dog.
• 52:25
  Listen, I did study.
• 52:27
  He had a dog.
• 52:28
  Hitler had a dog.
• 52:29
  Mocha, how do you know this?
• 52:30
  Because I remember vividly in college.
• 52:32
  History.
• 52:33
  I remember my history class.
• 52:34
  You guys, that was not the most important
• 52:36
  Hitler details I remember.
• 52:36
  It was my college dissertation
• 52:38
  and I think it was titled.
• 52:40
  Hitler had a dog.
• 52:41
  Hitler had a dog.
• 52:46
  I admit it's not the number,
• 52:48
  the first thing you looked up.
• 52:49
  Now, this is why you didn't imagine it.
• 52:50
  Yeah, it's right up there with,
• 52:51
  did you know he painted?
• 52:54
  Okay, well, I've got to be honest.
• 52:57
  So Hitler and Kurt Cobb Street had dogs.
• 52:59
  Good to know.
• 53:00
  Some weird Venn diagrams.
• 53:02
  There they are.
• 53:04
  But yeah, he's got a lot of.
• 53:06
  I have a dog.
• 53:07
  There's a lot of relationships to his sports analysis
• 53:11
  that I really, really don't love.
• 53:12
  But more importantly, I love Joel Klatt.
• 53:14
  And he's a good dude.
• 53:16
  He's incredible at his job.
• 53:18
  And it's nice to see someone in the industry,
• 53:22
  one of the few white men in the industry
• 53:23
  that I really, really like, get the win.
• 53:25
  Now, I would love at some point
• 53:27
  for this to not be a blonde white man
• 53:28
  that's getting this job.
• 53:29
  But you know what?
• 53:30
  We're going to take these baby steps
• 53:31
  toward from Kurt Street to Joel Klatt.
• 53:33
  From bald bearded white guys.
• 53:34
  You want bald, yeah, we don't need the blonde.
• 53:35
  But there's not enough bald bearded white guys
• 53:37
  with sweet glasses and tattoos with bold sleeves.
• 53:40
  That's all I'm saying.
• 53:41
  Well, there's plenty of them,
• 53:42
  but they're just not on our side of things.
• 53:43
  That's fair.
• 53:44
  I do look like I can infiltrate.
• 53:46
  Yes, oh, you absolutely.
• 53:48
  I'm basically a T-800 mocha.
• 53:50
  I'm an infiltration unit.
• 53:52
  I've told people this.
• 53:53
  A few of my black girlfriends specifically
• 53:58
  have been like, do people think that you're conservative
• 54:02
  because of the way you look?
• 54:03
  And I was like, oh, yeah.
• 54:05
  People definitely think I am.
• 54:06
  Yeah, I mean, the internet,
• 54:08
  occasionally, it's not happening anymore
• 54:10
  now that I'm a little bit more notable.
• 54:11
  But it used to happen all the time
• 54:12
  where people were like, I saw you
• 54:13
  and did not expect what you were about to say.
• 54:16
  But in real life, people will say stuff around me.
• 54:18
  And I'm like an undercover.
• 54:19
  I'm like an undercover cop.
• 54:20
  I'm like, oh, you, oh.
• 54:22
  Oh, no, there's a lot of people in New York
• 54:24
  in this industry that I've hung out with
• 54:26
  that I was just like, oh, yeah, you ain't my guy.
• 54:28
  You ain't my person.
• 54:29
  Yeah, we're cool.
• 54:30
  Yeah, we're fine.
• 54:31
  Like, we don't need to do this.
• 54:33
  It's really wild, right?
• 54:34
  It's a lot more people than you might think.
• 54:35
  Yeah, it does fuel my fire, I'll tell you that much.
• 54:38
  So happy for Joel Klatt.
• 54:39
  That's really all it is.
• 54:40
  That is very cool.
• 54:41
  Yeah, and happy for whoever plays College Football 27
• 54:44
  because they're about to have a much better experience.
• 54:46
  Because again, Herb Street, not popular.
• 54:48
  There's a reason they made this change.
• 54:50
  The other thing is ESPN has been under fire
• 54:54
  and had to apologize, essentially,
• 54:56
  for using an artificial intelligence version of Tony Parker
• 55:01
  during the second half of the NBA Finals.
• 55:05
  Or the NBA, sorry, was this the NBA Finals?
• 55:09
  I believe it was the NBA Finals.
• 55:10
  Yes, this was the other night.
• 55:11
  Oh, this was the other night, yes.
• 55:12
  This was very much the other night, no.
• 55:13
  So I didn't look into details,
• 55:15
  but I saw the headline and it never looked like further.
• 55:17
  I saw what they were, like what was reposted.
• 55:20
  It is very clearly an AI representation of Tony Parker
• 55:28
  of a thing that actually happened.
• 55:30
  Like it's a real-
• 55:31
  There are photos.
• 55:32
  There's photos and videos of it.
• 55:33
  This wasn't from 1940.
• 55:35
  There was real emotion.
• 55:38
  People were cheering.
• 55:40
  He held a trophy.
• 55:41
  And this is ESPN.
• 55:42
  They have an archive unlike, I mean, outside of,
• 55:46
  I can't think of anything outside
• 55:47
  of the old Sports Illustrated archive
• 55:49
  that might've rivaled the archive of video
• 55:52
  and photo footage that ESPN has access to.
• 55:56
  There's a real photo of this moment and the AI did.
• 55:59
  Yeah, as our industry, the sports media industry,
• 56:03
  gets more and more gutted and more and more folded
• 56:07
  in on itself by massive conglomerates,
• 56:09
  we're seeing more and more layoffs
• 56:11
  because obviously, you know,
• 56:14
  no one wants to ever investigate monopolies anymore.
• 56:17
  And obviously, competition's a bad thing.
• 56:19
  We just need, we need it all to be just one gigantic company
• 56:22
  so we can then fire, you know, 35% of said workforce.
• 56:26
  And that is what has been happening at ESPN systematically
• 56:29
  for year after year at Fox as well as, you know,
• 56:32
  as well as every other industry in this thing.
• 56:34
  This industry has been gutting itself
• 56:36
  in such a fucking disgusting way
• 56:39
  that I'll use my new gig as an example
• 56:42
  that I am so happy about this gig for multiple reasons.
• 56:46
  Not just that I'm very lucky
• 56:48
  to have gotten the opportunity to do the morning show,
• 56:50
  but it's also because it's a new channel.
• 56:55
  It's a new expansion here.
• 56:57
  No one's expanding.
• 56:59
  Everyone's contracting.
• 57:00
  We're hiring people.
• 57:01
  We're expanding LA sports right now.
• 57:04
  And I look at that as an opportunity of, you know,
• 57:07
  a rising tide to lift other ships.
• 57:09
  So I hope this is good for AM570.
• 57:12
  I hope it's good for the ESPN guys on AM as well.
• 57:14
  I hope it's good for all of us.
• 57:16
  And I hope it's good for the industry.
• 57:18
  I hope it's a trend that will take, go forward.
• 57:20
  Unfortunately on the TV side,
• 57:22
  everything is owned by Disney now
• 57:24
  and the rest that isn't owned by Disney is owned by Fox.
• 57:27
  So that, and now Netflix is in there as well,
• 57:30
  but they're not really increasing jobs
• 57:32
  because what they're doing is just hiring the people
• 57:34
  that are already hired and other people
• 57:35
  because they're working in like conjunction with each other.
• 57:39
  This is fucking really ugly.
• 57:42
  And the fact that we're not even hiring
• 57:45
  fucking video editors to properly put together
• 57:49
  video packages on SportsCenter is disgusting.
• 57:52
  No, that's the thing.
• 57:54
  We have inside information about this.
• 57:57
  There's plenty of video editors.
• 57:58
  There's plenty of people there that would do this.
• 58:00
  There were video editors working on this broadcast.
• 58:03
  So here's what I wonder.
• 58:06
  They're seeing if they can do it.
• 58:07
  Well, I think that there's a part of that
• 58:09
  that might be at play.
• 58:10
  What can they get away with?
• 58:12
  I also think that, and this is a conspiracy theory kind of,
• 58:16
  and it's half-baked so you can sort of just,
• 58:19
  you know, we'll chat it out a little bit,
• 58:21
  but I think a lot of these companies
• 58:23
  are in these sort of dark money handshake negotiation deals
• 58:28
  with artificial intelligence companies
• 58:32
  to essentially slow roll AI into their programming
• 58:37
  and they're making money in places
• 58:40
  that isn't being reported.
• 58:42
  I think that there are corporate relationships
• 58:43
  that are technically on the books that we don't know about
• 58:45
  because when I tell you there is no reason,
• 58:49
  there is no reason on planet Earth.
• 58:52
  I've worked in sports television my whole life.
• 58:55
  I have 1,000 friends that work at ESPN.
• 58:58
  It was harder to do this than to just have an editor
• 59:02
  throw in the actual Tony Parker.
• 59:04
  This was a lot harder.
• 59:06
  That's weird.
• 59:08
  That's concerning.
• 59:09
  That makes me think that there is a motive
• 59:12
  that to your point could be, what can we get away with?
• 59:15
  Can we replace these people with AI without people noticing?
• 59:18
  But also, what type of relationships do you have already
• 59:22
  with these companies and with providers of this service
• 59:26
  that made you feel like this was necessary?
• 59:30
  So it's very concerning.
• 59:33
  I am already out of the industry.
• 59:35
  Myself, in terms of working in mainstream sports television,
• 59:40
  but not everybody that I love and that I'm friends with is.
• 59:45
  This is fucking concerning.
• 59:46
  This is a problem.
• 59:47
  It's not a problem.
• 59:48
  I have friends who talk about AI, work in AI,
• 59:52
  and I can't do it.
• 59:53
  I'm so fucking over it, Cody.
• 59:55
  It's really ugly, but I gotta tell you this.
• 59:57
  What you're telling me is that this is a half-baked theory.
• 1:00:03
  I think this is, I honestly think this is exactly
• 1:00:05
  what's taking place.
• 1:00:06
  It's a theory in the sense that I don't actually have.
• 1:00:09
  I think whether it's Disney or a subsidiary of Disney
• 1:00:14
  or if it's whatever entity it is,
• 1:00:17
  has some sort of deal with an open AI or this or that 100%.
• 1:00:25
  These are not good people.
• 1:00:27
  I just don't know what else to tell you.
• 1:00:29
  These aren't good people.
• 1:00:31
  These are all, when I'm talking about the AI,
• 1:00:35
  do I need to tell you that Sam Altman's a fucking monster?
• 1:00:38
  Do I need to do that?
• 1:00:39
  By the way, do I need to tell you that when billionaires
• 1:00:41
  are like, hey, this would be really good for you guys,
• 1:00:44
  it'll be really good for you to use this,
• 1:00:46
  that you should be skeptical?
• 1:00:47
  Yeah, you don't think that-
• 1:00:49
  You think billionaires want us to make money?
• 1:00:51
  You think that cutting labor entirely
• 1:00:54
  is not exactly what they're trying to do?
• 1:00:56
  This was all laid out in the 80s from Ronald Reagan.
• 1:00:59
  I don't have to tell you.
• 1:01:01
  Literally the path of wealth has a massive trajectory
• 1:01:05
  literally from that.
• 1:01:07
  It's so disturbing that no one can look at a chart.
• 1:01:13
  So, but yeah, this is where it's going
• 1:01:14
  and good luck, everyone.
• 1:01:17
  Yeah, so I mean, stay loud.
• 1:01:19
  The best thing we can do is stay loud.
• 1:01:21
  I don't wanna just be nihilistic
• 1:01:22
  and act like there's nothing we can do.
• 1:01:24
  People were pretty outraged.
• 1:01:26
  They said what they said.
• 1:01:27
  Stay loud, stay vigilant about not using it.
• 1:01:31
  Listen, there's some stuff that where AI
• 1:01:33
  is built into an app or whatever else.
• 1:01:34
  It's not what we're talking about.
• 1:01:35
  We're talking about generative AI.
• 1:01:37
  We're talking about the type of AI
• 1:01:39
  that's replacing editors and artists and things like that.
• 1:01:41
  You know what, Google's old-
• 1:01:42
  Are really important.
• 1:01:43
  I don't know if it's still their motto,
• 1:01:44
  but I will tell you this was their motto.
• 1:01:46
  And I did appreciate this for a long time.
• 1:01:48
  Highly doubt the motto is still being used.
• 1:01:50
  Oh no, they're using the fuck out of AI.
• 1:01:51
  Oh no, no, no.
• 1:01:52
  The model was, I mean, I think it even was attributed AI,
• 1:01:54
  no matter what, the first number rule was
• 1:01:57
  don't be evil.
• 1:01:59
  Yeah, they've crossed that boundary, but-
• 1:02:01
  Too late.
• 1:02:02
  Yeah, so that's the thing is like,
• 1:02:05
  ESPN had to address it publicly.
• 1:02:07
  Good, keep doing this.
• 1:02:08
  I don't, the one thing that I'm,
• 1:02:10
  and we're gonna get into this now
• 1:02:12
  that we're getting into catch up corner.
• 1:02:13
  The one thing I've taken away
• 1:02:15
  from having been in Washington DC
• 1:02:18
  with a bunch of content creators
• 1:02:19
  is nihilism is like just simply not a fucking option.
• 1:02:24
  We are not out here doing this,
• 1:02:27
  having this conversation,
• 1:02:28
  doing politics on a sports show
• 1:02:30
  so that we can tell everybody
• 1:02:31
  that nothing can be done and nothing matters.
• 1:02:33
  No, it all matters.
• 1:02:34
  So if you see AI Tony Parker
• 1:02:37
  and you wanna fucking pop off about it,
• 1:02:39
  that's meaningful, please do so.
• 1:02:41
  Don't act like it doesn't matter, it does.
• 1:02:44
  No, it really does.
• 1:02:45
  Guys, it's why we do this show.
• 1:02:48
  Yeah.
• 1:02:48
  You know, we do this show
• 1:02:52
  because we feel like no one else is.
• 1:02:54
  Yeah.
• 1:02:55
  We feel informed and we are informed enough
• 1:02:57
  to do this show.
• 1:02:59
  And we have very, very unique perspectives
• 1:03:02
  in the sports world.
• 1:03:03
  And the one thing I love about this show
• 1:03:06
  and love about working with you
• 1:03:07
  is despite how much we do bust balls
• 1:03:10
  and despite how much we do get angry
• 1:03:12
  and occasionally nihilistic with how annoying it gets,
• 1:03:15
  we do always try to lead with empathy.
• 1:03:17
  Yeah.
• 1:03:18
  And that is literally the one thing I think sports,
• 1:03:21
  I mean, there is a lot of empathy in sports.
• 1:03:23
  Like look no further than Wembley,
• 1:03:24
  but then I see the pushback.
• 1:03:26
  Yeah.
• 1:03:27
  Like my problem with sports
• 1:03:29
  is the pushback on Victor Wemenyama.
• 1:03:31
  If there was an ounce of pushback-
• 1:03:32
  And Caleb Williams.
• 1:03:33
  And Caleb Williams.
• 1:03:34
  That pushback is what's wrong with sports.
• 1:03:38
  The people that want you to be mad,
• 1:03:41
  make money off it, is what's wrong with sports.
• 1:03:43
  And it happens to just also be what's wrong with the world.
• 1:03:46
  Yeah.
• 1:03:47
  So.
• 1:03:48
  So yeah, I mean, that's a perfect way for us to segue
• 1:03:50
  into Catch-Up Corner.
• 1:03:51
  And we'll talk about what's going on with both of us,
• 1:03:54
  but I did have a big weekend in Washington, D.C.
• 1:03:57
  I went to a conference called Trending Up
• 1:04:00
  that was about 280 creators from around the country.
• 1:04:04
  We were hosted in D.C.
• 1:04:05
  at a beautiful five-star hotel on the wharf.
• 1:04:08
  And we spent the weekend going to panels,
• 1:04:11
  having conversations, different creators
• 1:04:14
  were teaching different little seminars on things
• 1:04:17
  and networking with each other, meeting each other
• 1:04:20
  and figuring out kind of what's what.
• 1:04:22
  The thing that's really interesting
• 1:04:23
  that segues into this conversation that you just said
• 1:04:27
  is that we just don't have a lot of this in sports.
• 1:04:30
  And of all of those creators
• 1:04:32
  with all these different niches,
• 1:04:33
  listen, I met the mom influencers.
• 1:04:35
  I met more people who do content with their cats
• 1:04:40
  than I met sports creators.
• 1:04:42
  It was me and Coach Jackie.
• 1:04:45
  I don't, do you know Coach Jackie?
• 1:04:46
  I don't know Coach Jackie.
• 1:04:47
  She does women's sports.
• 1:04:48
  I should check her out.
• 1:04:49
  And she's fantastic.
• 1:04:49
  You'd love her.
• 1:04:51
  She has a lot of like just history about women's sports
• 1:04:53
  and just like, you know, whatever.
• 1:04:54
  She's young Gen Z kind of bringing everybody
• 1:04:57
  into the mix on the women's side of things.
• 1:04:59
  And she and I started following each other
• 1:05:02
  because we both had an intersection
• 1:05:03
  of talking about trans women in sports.
• 1:05:05
  And her and I were the only sports creators at this event.
• 1:05:11
  Everybody else in all of these different niches.
• 1:05:12
  And that to me is fucking crazy
• 1:05:15
  considering just how political sports truly are.
• 1:05:20
  Pretty crazy.
• 1:05:21
  And so I felt like I spent all weekend
• 1:05:23
  sort of explaining to people just how political sports are.
• 1:05:28
  And the event itself obviously was,
• 1:05:32
  gave me a lot of insight into the fact that there is,
• 1:05:36
  people are fighting this battle
• 1:05:37
  in every single industry that they're in, right?
• 1:05:40
  Yeah.
• 1:05:41
  So that was obviously a very big part
• 1:05:45
  of the time that I was there.
• 1:05:47
  Other part of the time that I was there
• 1:05:48
  was me just being like, holy fuck,
• 1:05:50
  there's a lot of creators here that are my FYP.
• 1:05:55
  I don't know if you've ever heard this thing,
• 1:05:56
  but when people go and do this stuff, they say like,
• 1:05:58
  this is crazy.
• 1:05:59
  My whole FYP is here.
• 1:06:00
  My whole feed is here.
• 1:06:02
  FYP?
• 1:06:03
  Yeah, for you page.
• 1:06:04
  That's a TikTok thing.
• 1:06:05
  Oh, okay, okay, yeah.
• 1:06:06
  My whole algorithm is here.
• 1:06:07
  My whole like whatever.
• 1:06:08
  Fuck me.
• 1:06:09
  Yeah.
• 1:06:10
  Sorry.
• 1:06:11
  Sorry, sorry, Mocha, teach me your ways.
• 1:06:15
  You don't even need Mocha.
• 1:06:16
  Apparently, I'm doing the job for him.
• 1:06:19
  What is this Gen Z chick I'm doing this show with?
• 1:06:22
  But it is actually that,
• 1:06:24
  like it is actually fucking wild
• 1:06:26
  to walk into a hotel lobby
• 1:06:29
  and see like 20 people you follow on the internet
• 1:06:31
  with millions of followers,
• 1:06:32
  just like standing there in front of you,
• 1:06:33
  checking into the same hotel, right?
• 1:06:36
  Everybody was a lot nicer than I thought they would be.
• 1:06:38
  That's good to hear.
• 1:06:39
  There was not a lot of big timing.
• 1:06:42
  Catty, big time.
• 1:06:43
  Yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:45
  There was one girl that definitely hates me.
• 1:06:48
  Well, she must love herself.
• 1:06:49
  Yeah.
• 1:06:49
  Who is it?
• 1:06:50
  Name names.
• 1:06:51
  Coward.
• 1:06:52
  No, she's a political influencer,
• 1:06:56
  and I don't know where she's based out of,
• 1:06:58
  but like literally one time
• 1:07:01
  I disagreed with her publicly on the internet,
• 1:07:02
  and she fucking cold shouldered the fuck out of me.
• 1:07:05
  We were at a karaoke bar,
• 1:07:07
  and she was like right in front of me was like,
• 1:07:10
  yeah, and when people think that they like,
• 1:07:12
  and she like fucking tried to talk shit about me
• 1:07:14
  in front of me to like to somebody else
• 1:07:17
  that I was friends with,
• 1:07:18
  and I was like, I'm not doing this.
• 1:07:19
  I'm like not doing this.
• 1:07:20
  I've had such a good weekend,
• 1:07:22
  but she hates me, so it is what it is.
• 1:07:24
  Listen, we're different in this respect.
• 1:07:27
  I fucking love confrontation.
• 1:07:29
  If you wanna say something to me,
• 1:07:31
  I'm happy to talk.
• 1:07:32
  Oh, it's not that I dislike confrontation.
• 1:07:33
  I'm not afraid of that at all.
• 1:07:35
  It was like, this is not,
• 1:07:37
  when I'm looking at like a,
• 1:07:39
  if I'm looking at a drunk white girl
• 1:07:41
  talking shit in front of me,
• 1:07:43
  like you're not worth my fucking time.
• 1:07:44
  No, I love debating a drunk white girl.
• 1:07:46
  That's the fucking, it's target practice.
• 1:07:49
  What are you doing?
• 1:07:50
  Yeah, but like, that's not gonna work in my favor
• 1:07:53
  because we're in a group of mutual friends,
• 1:07:55
  and now we're gonna be like,
• 1:07:56
  now there's gonna be picking sides on the internet.
• 1:07:59
  Thanks, I'm good, you know?
• 1:08:01
  But other than that, everything was really great.
• 1:08:03
  Loved everybody there.
• 1:08:05
  It was like, the big thing that obviously,
• 1:08:09
  like the creator thing was its own,
• 1:08:11
  you know, obviously its own thing.
• 1:08:13
  We had this great setup.
• 1:08:14
  We were going to all these panels,
• 1:08:15
  met some governors, did the whole thing.
• 1:08:17
  The thing that I was building to
• 1:08:19
  that I was nervous about all weekend
• 1:08:21
  was going to Capitol Hill on Wednesday
• 1:08:22
  and talking with our senator,
• 1:08:26
  our Southern California senator, Alex Padilla.
• 1:08:30
  So we all wake up a little bit,
• 1:08:33
  a little bit, you know, tired from the night before party
• 1:08:36
  and get on a shuttle over to the Capitol.
• 1:08:38
  It was incredible.
• 1:08:39
  I didn't know how I was gonna feel about being there.
• 1:08:41
  Obviously, it's not the best time to be patriotic,
• 1:08:44
  but seeing the Capitol building, being in front of it,
• 1:08:47
  being in these, it was incredible.
• 1:08:48
  I've never gotten to do that.
• 1:08:50
  I was, I also didn't know this was gonna happen.
• 1:08:53
  We walk in for our little initiation
• 1:08:55
  just to like get ready before we all go meet
• 1:08:56
  with our representatives and senators.
• 1:08:58
  Elizabeth Warren walks in.
• 1:09:00
  She gives us a rousing speech.
• 1:09:02
  That was fucking awesome.
• 1:09:03
  She's one of the few politicians
• 1:09:05
  I heard from over the weekend where I was like,
• 1:09:07
  she almost made me want to cry how much she cared.
• 1:09:09
  Like she cares and she's been doing this for so long
• 1:09:12
  and she still fucking cares so much.
• 1:09:14
  And she came in so ready to be excited
• 1:09:16
  about the impact that we can have.
• 1:09:17
  And it was very, very cute.
• 1:09:19
  But I got to take the underground Senate tunnel train
• 1:09:24
  to the Senate offices.
• 1:09:27
  I didn't even know it existed.
• 1:09:29
  It was really sick.
• 1:09:30
  So that was really cool.
• 1:09:32
  Also Alex Padilla, side note, tall.
• 1:09:35
  He looks tall.
• 1:09:36
  He looks like a big guy.
• 1:09:37
  I didn't realize he was tall.
• 1:09:39
  He's like, I mean, I was probably six feet
• 1:09:41
  with my sneakers on.
• 1:09:43
  This guy was like a few inches tall
• 1:09:44
  and he had to have been like 6'3".
• 1:09:45
  Hey, shit, Alex Padilla.
• 1:09:47
  Yeah.
• 1:09:48
  Big dude.
• 1:09:49
  Tall, yeah.
• 1:09:49
  And so he's at, yeah.
• 1:09:51
  I haven't caught.
• 1:09:52
  I got stuck at 5'11".
• 1:09:52
  And by the way, relax all ladies that are saying,
• 1:09:56
  you're probably 5'7".
• 1:09:57
  No, I'm actually 5'11".
• 1:09:58
  No, I did.
• 1:09:59
  I hate being 5'11".
• 1:10:00
  I did make sure he was 5'11", because I'm 5'10".
• 1:10:03
  I'm just slightly under 5'10".
• 1:10:04
  And I'm a little taller than you.
• 1:10:05
  And we barefoot did the thing.
• 1:10:08
  He has an itch.
• 1:10:09
  Your husband has confirmed that I am taller than you.
• 1:10:12
  Has he?
• 1:10:13
  Yes.
• 1:10:14
  He did this in front of your husband.
• 1:10:15
  He's like, sorry, Tanya.
• 1:10:17
  Narrative is dead.
• 1:10:18
  He's 5'11".
• 1:10:19
  Nice try, lady.
• 1:10:21
  Was I still arguing at that time?
• 1:10:22
  Yes.
• 1:10:22
  And we're just like, bullshit.
• 1:10:23
  I'm like, no.
• 1:10:24
  Fuck it, it's right here.
• 1:10:26
  I feel like we had already handled it
• 1:10:27
  and then I must have backtracked.
• 1:10:30
  So yes, he is 5'11".
• 1:10:32
  It does sound like a fake height.
• 1:10:33
  It is usually a fake height.
• 1:10:34
  No, trust me.
• 1:10:35
  I wish I was 6'1".
• 1:10:37
  I've never claimed it.
• 1:10:38
  Even back in the day, my hinge profiles.
• 1:10:41
  I said 5'11".
• 1:10:41
  I was honest about it.
• 1:10:43
  Well, you know, I'm proud of you for that.
• 1:10:45
  Thank you.
• 1:10:46
  I do think honesty is good.
• 1:10:47
  Honesty is good.
• 1:10:48
  And also 5'11'' is not short.
• 1:10:49
  So it's, you're fine.
• 1:10:50
  It's not like you're like,
• 1:10:51
  oh, I have to admit to being 5'3".
• 1:10:53
  Short in them streets.
• 1:10:56
  Well, yeah, for, because there's-
• 1:10:58
  You know what I'm talking about, Mocha?
• 1:10:59
  No, it's because-
• 1:11:01
  Okay, almost there.
• 1:11:02
  Right?
• 1:11:02
  It's like, you're not even a person.
• 1:11:05
  But that's, you know what annoys me?
• 1:11:07
  It's because of women who are like 5'2",
• 1:11:09
  who want a dude over six feet.
• 1:11:11
  What do you need with a dude over six feet?
• 1:11:13
  Where do you get the balls to be such a thing?
• 1:11:15
  What's with that request?
• 1:11:17
  You know what I mean?
• 1:11:18
  Like, what are we doing on that front?
• 1:11:20
  Short people are nice too.
• 1:11:21
  Are they?
• 1:11:22
  Short people are nice.
• 1:11:25
  I know.
• 1:11:26
  Mocha, you're not short.
• 1:11:27
  Yeah, Mocha, aren't you six feet?
• 1:11:28
  What are you talking about?
• 1:11:29
  How tall are you?
• 1:11:30
  No, Mocha's like my height.
• 1:11:31
  Say your height, asshole.
• 1:11:32
  Mocha, aren't you my height?
• 1:11:33
  I'm 5'9".
• 1:11:34
  Are you really?
• 1:11:35
  5'9", I don't know.
• 1:11:36
  Okay, well, that's not that far off from me.
• 1:11:38
  I thought you were my height.
• 1:11:41
  Okay, well, we're going to,
• 1:11:41
  that's what we're doing.
• 1:11:42
  Take your shoes off.
• 1:11:43
  Let's go back to back.
• 1:11:44
  Yeah, we're supposed to go back to back
• 1:11:45
  and we'll figure this out.
• 1:11:49
  So yeah, that was-
• 1:11:49
  I'm six feet.
• 1:11:50
  I know that.
• 1:11:52
  Well, yeah, I mean, I knew that,
• 1:11:54
  but I don't feel like I'm that much taller than you.
• 1:11:56
  I think normally I'm just wearing heels or big shoes.
• 1:11:59
  Listen, I'm really glad you had that experience.
• 1:12:02
  I hope you learned a shit ton.
• 1:12:06
  I hope you learned what you're doing is extremely worthwhile
• 1:12:10
  and that it can turn, change minds
• 1:12:13
  and it can change the world.
• 1:12:16
  So I'm excited for you.
• 1:12:17
  I'm excited for us.
• 1:12:19
  Yeah.
• 1:12:20
  Hell, I'm excited to pick your brain on what you did learn.
• 1:12:23
  So I'm really excited.
• 1:12:24
  Yeah, we got some good feedback from people there
• 1:12:27
  that were watching our clips
• 1:12:28
  that are loving what we're doing.
• 1:12:32
  I've never been more sure that what we're doing
• 1:12:35
  in talking about politics
• 1:12:36
  and making sure we put it into our platform
• 1:12:39
  and in what is as important as it is
• 1:12:41
  and as valuable as it is.
• 1:12:42
  I've never been more sure of that than I am now.
• 1:12:45
  And now I'm in contact with governors and senators, baby.
• 1:12:50
  We're hitting the big time, baby.
• 1:12:51
  Come on now.
• 1:12:52
  We're in big time.
• 1:12:53
  I'm for real now.
• 1:12:54
  I've got friends who got millions of followers.
• 1:12:56
  We're coastal elites now.
• 1:12:58
  You know, I was networking.
• 1:13:00
  I was having drinks with some of your favorites
• 1:13:02
  on the internet.
• 1:13:03
  I love that.
• 1:13:04
  I love that.
• 1:13:05
  And that's how you make things happen.
• 1:13:06
  That's how it works these days.
• 1:13:07
  I said, I was saying during the thing,
• 1:13:09
  I was like, it's so annoying how we do,
• 1:13:10
  we have all of these like events at this conference,
• 1:13:13
  but the real, it's so cliche,
• 1:13:14
  the real networking happens when you're later after
• 1:13:17
  the whole thing, when you're out at the bars.
• 1:13:19
  That's where it all happens.
• 1:13:21
  Networking happens in three plus.
• 1:13:23
  Bars, golf courses.
• 1:13:26
  Where's the third one?
• 1:13:27
  There's a third one in there.
• 1:13:27
  Strip clubs.
• 1:13:28
  Yeah, not me, man.
• 1:13:29
  I had a bad experience when I was 19
• 1:13:31
  that I tried to avoid, like at all costs.
• 1:13:33
  Wait, that's funny because Chris did too.
• 1:13:35
  Yeah, bad experience at 19.
• 1:13:36
  Was it all nude?
• 1:13:39
  I don't remember.
• 1:13:40
  I honestly can't remember.
• 1:13:42
  But I remember it being a horrible experience.
• 1:13:44
  And I think since then,
• 1:13:46
  I think I've been to a strip club two or three times.
• 1:13:49
  Because there's one strip club in Reno
• 1:13:50
  that has unbelievable food.
• 1:13:52
  Yeah, like the Magic City Wings.
• 1:13:54
  Yeah, no, I swear to God, this place in Reno,
• 1:13:57
  because I played baseball in Reno,
• 1:13:58
  after games, I would go by there on the way home.
• 1:14:01
  Because you ever see Shoresie?
• 1:14:02
  It's like the Colson.
• 1:14:03
  It's like one side's a restaurant,
• 1:14:04
  the other side's a strip club.
• 1:14:06
  And it was great.
• 1:14:08
  I fucking love that place.
• 1:14:09
  Gotta get the burger.
• 1:14:10
  Dude, the food is fucking great.
• 1:14:12
  I ate there like most nights.
• 1:14:13
  That's really funny.
• 1:14:14
  It's fucking phenomenal.
• 1:14:16
  That was the most annoying part,
• 1:14:18
  was every night when I was so tired
• 1:14:19
  and didn't want to go back out.
• 1:14:20
  I'm like, well, this is how I'm going to meet people.
• 1:14:22
  And I wasn't wrong.
• 1:14:23
  I was not wrong.
• 1:14:24
  That was where everything happened,
• 1:14:25
  where everything went down.
• 1:14:26
  And you know, there's a bunch of stuff
• 1:14:27
  that we're all going to keep between each other.
• 1:14:28
  We have, you know, we have really, we formed bonds.
• 1:14:31
  I love that.
• 1:14:32
  I love that.
• 1:14:33
  Well, good for you.
• 1:14:34
  Do you have anything to report about while I was gone?
• 1:14:36
  You know what?
• 1:14:37
  Really, the only thing to report
• 1:14:38
  is I've really enjoyed my new schedule.
• 1:14:42
  I've enjoyed this new gig.
• 1:14:44
  It's like a, listen, it's a dream come true.
• 1:14:47
  It's an opportunity, but it's an opportunity.
• 1:14:48
  Like that's the thing that I think a lot of people
• 1:14:50
  get lost when they get into these gigs.
• 1:14:53
  It was a lot of work to get that spot.
• 1:14:56
  Now the work actually begins.
• 1:14:58
  And now it's a real, like, you know, it's a responsibility.
• 1:15:01
  It's an opportunity and it's fun.
• 1:15:05
  I want to handle this how I handle all of my shit.
• 1:15:08
  Like, I don't want to be hot take guy.
• 1:15:10
  I've never, I, the one thing I've-
• 1:15:13
  Who wants that either?
• 1:15:14
  Yeah, no, I'm a massive pushback on that shit.
• 1:15:18
  Like, it's so funny.
• 1:15:18
  My counterpart in New York is WFAN.
• 1:15:21
  WFAN and me are not the same.
• 1:15:24
  Oh, and EDI in Boston, right?
• 1:15:25
  EDI in Boston, and IP in, but those things are not me.
• 1:15:30
  Like, I am not doom and gloom.
• 1:15:32
  I'm here trying to tell you all, calm the fuck down.
• 1:15:35
  Like, you guys don't seem to get, this shit's hard.
• 1:15:38
  And I want to, like, DeFish and I are like,
• 1:15:40
  trying to like, we want to educate fans.
• 1:15:43
  We want it to be fucking fun.
• 1:15:44
  Yeah, we want it to be fun.
• 1:15:45
  Well, you're two former athletes
• 1:15:45
  with a lot of experience in different parts of the games.
• 1:15:47
  So like, what's the point in you two
• 1:15:49
  becoming hot take guys assholes?
• 1:15:51
  Yeah, and that's just not who we are.
• 1:15:52
  I want people to be a better-
• 1:15:54
  You're just two nice guys
• 1:15:55
  with not a lot of hair between the two of you.
• 1:15:57
  No, dude, that's what sucks.
• 1:15:58
  I couldn't get a comb through this five years ago.
• 1:16:00
  Tanya, you should have seen me.
• 1:16:02
  I don't need it.
• 1:16:02
  I think, I genuinely think-
• 1:16:03
  I was fucking handsome.
• 1:16:04
  No, I genuinely think this is a look.
• 1:16:07
  I appreciate that.
• 1:16:08
  You understand, you never,
• 1:16:09
  I know your mother is being haunted by Jay Decker,
• 1:16:12
  but when I look in the mirror-
• 1:16:13
  I know he had lettuce, I know.
• 1:16:14
  You have no idea how much I look in the mirror.
• 1:16:15
  I'm like, fuck, that's Jay.
• 1:16:17
  That is not it.
• 1:16:18
  That is just, I hate how much I look like Jay Decker.
• 1:16:21
  Okay, well, I've seen pictures of your father.
• 1:16:24
  I think you look great.
• 1:16:26
  Thank you, very kind of you.
• 1:16:26
  You do not need the hair.
• 1:16:28
  That being said, yes, it's been an incredible time.
• 1:16:32
  You know, getting back in the daily,
• 1:16:34
  not the daily grind,
• 1:16:35
  just the daily rotation of daily radio,
• 1:16:38
  and especially six to 10, which is like the spot.
• 1:16:42
  I'm like honored to do it.
• 1:16:43
  I got to be the first voice on this channel.
• 1:16:46
  And that is just like, I got to pinch myself
• 1:16:48
  because there aren't a lot of these jobs.
• 1:16:50
  Like, there just aren't.
• 1:16:51
  No, I know, I'm finding that out.
• 1:16:53
  I'm currently figuring, you know, I've got a plan.
• 1:16:56
  Now, I've got a plan.
• 1:16:57
  I think it's going to work.
• 1:16:58
  I believe it.
• 1:16:59
  I don't think I'm going to need it.
• 1:17:00
  I don't think I'm going to need an employer,
• 1:17:01
  but it's going to require a lot of work.
• 1:17:03
  Work I want to do.
• 1:17:04
  You and I both love work.
• 1:17:05
  Both very much love work.
• 1:17:06
  That's the thing is we both like working.
• 1:17:08
  If you're going to get up at 4 a.m.
• 1:17:09
  and have to go into work every day, that's, I get it.
• 1:17:11
  Like I was doing that all.
• 1:17:13
  I love, I love work.
• 1:17:15
  And I love doing it in LA, like at my home.
• 1:17:17
  Like, dude, this is, this doesn't happen to everybody.
• 1:17:20
  And I know that.
• 1:17:21
  So I'm very, I'm very appreciative of the opportunity.
• 1:17:23
  I'm very lucky for it.
• 1:17:24
  And dude, I hope people who find me here
• 1:17:28
  will love to check out what I'm doing on the band.
• 1:17:30
  I hope people do because yeah,
• 1:17:32
  what you're doing over there with Derek Fisher is,
• 1:17:34
  and it's fun.
• 1:17:35
  It's something different.
• 1:17:36
  If you like Cody, it's more Cody,
• 1:17:38
  but just with some, you know,
• 1:17:39
  a little bit of an extra twist.
• 1:17:40
  Yeah, it's a lot more of a, you know,
• 1:17:42
  it's a lot more of a different vibe.
• 1:17:43
  He's not yelling as much.
• 1:17:44
  I'm not yelling nearly as much.
• 1:17:45
  I'm not as angry on that show.
• 1:17:47
  That being said, I do get pissed off.
• 1:17:48
  I can't help it.
• 1:17:50
  At the end of the day, it is me.
• 1:17:51
  It's always there.
• 1:17:52
  At the end of the day, I can't stop being me.
• 1:17:54
  But either way, I mean, either way, we're both really,
• 1:17:55
  I think the moral of the story of Catch Up Corners,
• 1:17:57
  we're both really grateful for the opportunities
• 1:17:59
  that we're getting, where things are landing us,
• 1:18:02
  and kind of what's in store for the future.
• 1:18:05
  And we really, we're really excited
• 1:18:07
  about what we're doing here.
• 1:18:09
  Like-
• 1:18:10
  We've got plans.
• 1:18:11
  We're only gonna keep building this for,
• 1:18:12
  I hope, years to come, and turn this into something
• 1:18:15
  that we're really proud of. I'm doing this podcast
• 1:18:15
  until I'm 70.
• 1:18:17
  I have no, I'm not going anywhere.
• 1:18:18
  No need to stop.
• 1:18:19
  I built this fucking studio.
• 1:18:21
  We're using it.
• 1:18:21
  This is, oh yes.
• 1:18:23
  No, and I'm, and eventually I might have to live here.
• 1:18:25
  So, just, you know.
• 1:18:27
  It's a pull-out couch.
• 1:18:28
  That's what I'm saying.
• 1:18:29
  You know, I don't know where the economic status
• 1:18:31
  of this country is going.
• 1:18:32
  Rents, you know, you never know what happens.
• 1:18:34
  I might have to live in that green room.
• 1:18:36
  Inherited house wealth.
• 1:18:38
  So, I gotcha.
• 1:18:39
  That's what I'm talking about.
• 1:18:40
  So, listen, it's been fun,
• 1:18:42
  and I'm really excited about the future of it.
• 1:18:44
  I'm excited for the opportunities.
• 1:18:45
  I mean, there's also cool things that I get to do.
• 1:18:47
  Like, I saw Death Cab for Cutie this week in the K-Rock,
• 1:18:49
  like, in the In-N-Out soundstage.
• 1:18:52
  Oh, that's awesome.
• 1:18:53
  That's where, okay.
• 1:18:54
  It was like a, it was a very intimate show
• 1:18:56
  where they played for an hour, and like-
• 1:18:57
  One of these times I would like to be around
• 1:18:59
  for these things so I can like-
• 1:19:01
  You can go.
• 1:19:02
  I'll bring you.
• 1:19:02
  Yeah, I need to go.
• 1:19:04
  You know what I want?
• 1:19:05
  I'm gonna request ahead of time.
• 1:19:06
  Anytime you're in a luxury box for a basketball game
• 1:19:09
  or a football game-
• 1:19:10
  Oh, you're it.
• 1:19:11
  You're it.
• 1:19:12
  No, I think I can go to the Sparks a lot
• 1:19:13
  because I actually, fuck it,
• 1:19:14
  I'm not going to the Sparks.
• 1:19:15
  In, okay.
• 1:19:15
  All right, we're going to the Sparks.
• 1:19:16
  So, that's, I'm grabbing my spot for one of those.
• 1:19:18
  Okay.
• 1:19:19
  Done and done.
• 1:19:19
  You guys heard it.
• 1:19:20
  If he backs out on it, you're my-
• 1:19:22
  I'm not gonna back out on it.
• 1:19:22
  They gave me a Sparks ticket.
• 1:19:23
  No, you're very-
• 1:19:24
  They gave me a Sparks ticket.
• 1:19:25
  You're pretty generous.
• 1:19:26
  Jesus Christ.
• 1:19:27
  Fuck.
• 1:19:27
  Listen, I know it's, since we took Monday off,
• 1:19:30
  we didn't get an opportunity to get into the bloody sock.
• 1:19:32
  It's, listen, we promise we're going to get into it.
• 1:19:34
  In fact, we're going to do it on Monday.
• 1:19:36
  We've never lied to you before about this.
• 1:19:37
  I don't know why you wouldn't believe us now.
• 1:19:39
  I don't know why you feel like Charlie Brown
• 1:19:41
  and we're Lucy pulling the ball.
• 1:19:42
  When we do eventually have this conversation,
• 1:19:44
  I mean, you're not quite ready for it.
• 1:19:45
  And I think maybe that's why we're putting it off
• 1:19:46
  because we don't want to get in a fight.
• 1:19:47
  We just got back together.
• 1:19:48
  It's just, we just don't want to get in a fight.
• 1:19:50
  It wasn't blood and fuck Kurt Schilling.
• 1:19:51
  Fuck Kurt Schilling.
• 1:19:53
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