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- 0:00Speaker 1: To keep you informed.
- 0:01Speaker 2: Fifty five KRS The Talk Station.
- 0:13Speaker 1: By Both five at fifty five k r C the
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- 0:20Speaker 3: Briddy some says, will.
- 0:34Speaker 4: Vacation, Let's go right.
- 0:39Speaker 1: Yeah, and it is happy Friday Thursday. Call it what
- 0:44Speaker 1: you want. Here we are fifty five KRC Morning Show.
- 0:46Speaker 1: Brian Thomas right here, glad to be and glad to
- 0:48Speaker 1: see Drs Drucker where he is supposed to be in
- 0:50Speaker 1: the executive producer booth, and looking forward to Congressman Warren
- 0:53Speaker 1: Davidson joining the program. He's coming up at seven o five. Uh,
- 0:57Speaker 1: the government is still shut down? Will be shutdown?
- 1:00Speaker 5: Her?
- 1:00Speaker 1: End question?
- 1:01Speaker 6: Mark?
- 1:03Speaker 1: Will the GOP senators blink and give in? That's a
- 1:06Speaker 1: legitimate question. I'll post to Congressman Warren Davidson among others,
- 1:09Speaker 1: and followed by Empower You Seminar Deanna Binikey w should
- 1:15Speaker 1: be a fun one history of World War II propaganda posters.
- 1:19Speaker 1: Rosie the Riveter, I'm sure is going to be among
- 1:20Speaker 1: the multitude of propaganda posters from World War Two. We
- 1:24Speaker 1: hear from her at seven thirty. Talk about that. Empower
- 1:26Speaker 1: You Seminar eighth five in studio, Brother dre Andre Ewing
- 1:32Speaker 1: outspoken well, former Cincinni police officer thirty years under his belt,
- 1:37Speaker 1: proudly served the community and is well an outspoken critic
- 1:40Speaker 1: of the current administration. Not a huge fan of AFT.
- 1:43Speaker 1: Have pro volt constantly question this whole police chief Thiji
- 1:48Speaker 1: issue that's swirling around and more information coming out about that.
- 1:54Speaker 1: Several articles reporting on it in the local news, most
- 1:58Speaker 1: notably Enquire. Even fellow Democrats criticizing the decision to remove
- 2:04Speaker 1: police Chief DJ calling the situation chaotic. Well, it is
- 2:10Speaker 1: rather chaotic, isn't it. In case you didn't get a
- 2:13Speaker 1: chance to listen, yesterday had her brother on Russ Neville,
- 2:17Speaker 1: former sinsint police cap and retired. He was on talking
- 2:20Speaker 1: about defending the family name and the fact that they're
- 2:23Speaker 1: dragging police Chief DG's name through the mud. Not cool,
- 2:26Speaker 1: says Russ. Now you can listen to the podcast if
- 2:28Speaker 1: you five caresee dot com also judge edded Apoloitano, which
- 2:31Speaker 1: is a story that is mind blowing that here in
- 2:35Speaker 1: America we have people who would arrest you for basically
- 2:39Speaker 1: just the absolute ultimately protecting free political speech. That story
- 2:46Speaker 1: was actually actually frightening in a way. But anyway you
- 2:49Speaker 1: can hear what the Judge had to say and talk
- 2:51Speaker 1: about it also make America sing again the Big Picture,
- 2:54Speaker 1: which Jack adan and props again to Joe's Trekker for
- 2:57Speaker 1: the AI created image there that went along with Jack's
- 3:01Speaker 1: beautiful and informative and also slightly lighthearted observations about music
- 3:06Speaker 1: and politics. So it's all there at fifty five Charasee
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- 3:18Speaker 1: five Casey Morning Show, I will add. So there's your
- 3:21Speaker 1: lineup for this morning and of course tomorrow Tech Friday
- 3:24Speaker 1: with Dave Hatter and Corey Bowman with his presumably final
- 3:27Speaker 1: appearance on the fifty five Charasee Morning Show before the election.
- 3:30Speaker 1: Hey guess what open voting's going on right now? And
- 3:34Speaker 1: I've been reading there's some recent articles and they interview
- 3:39Speaker 1: all it's always interviewing locally the same people. I think
- 3:42Speaker 1: Niven is his name. He's a political science professor at
- 3:44Speaker 1: University of Cincinnati, and a couple of other folks who
- 3:46Speaker 1: are regularly interviewed when it comes to you know, parsing
- 3:49Speaker 1: through the how's the election going to go? What's your
- 3:52Speaker 1: predictions on the outcome? And they've been following this stuff
- 3:57Speaker 1: still predicting a very low voter turnout, which is so disheartening.
- 4:00Speaker 1: Both I believe that those that were interviewed, and I'm
- 4:03Speaker 1: doing this from recollection, I don't have it in front
- 4:05Speaker 1: of me, apologies, but still expecting somewhere on the order
- 4:07Speaker 1: of about a twenty five percent voter turnout in downtown Cincinnati.
- 4:10Speaker 1: If you're listening to me and you have your eligible
- 4:13Speaker 1: to vote in downtown, all I can do is emphasize
- 4:15Speaker 1: how powerful your vote is. If twenty five percent of
- 4:19Speaker 1: the population of the city is going to determine the
- 4:22Speaker 1: future of the city, isn't that frightening. You're walking down
- 4:25Speaker 1: the street looking at a multitude of people. Just assume
- 4:28Speaker 1: they're all residents of the city, and you're just one
- 4:30Speaker 1: out of every four. One out of every four people
- 4:34Speaker 1: are worried about what's going on in the city. Crime,
- 4:37Speaker 1: the right to self determination in any given community with
- 4:42Speaker 1: regard to development, all these things that impact people day
- 4:46Speaker 1: in and day out. The freaking potholes that are on
- 4:49Speaker 1: your street. Remember Fred calling in real early on in
- 4:54Speaker 1: this wee pothole discussion a couple of years ago. Just
- 4:57Speaker 1: not just want my street fixed. Ultimate Only Fred got
- 5:00Speaker 1: his street fixed, which is wonderful. So Fred, maybe it'll
- 5:03Speaker 1: go out his front door and drive down the street
- 5:05Speaker 1: without needing an alignment. But you know, as you turn
- 5:08Speaker 1: the corner, yet another street that's been left to fall
- 5:12Speaker 1: apart and crumble and decay over the years. This is
- 5:15Speaker 1: a building problem, much in the same way safety and
- 5:19Speaker 1: crime has been a building problem. We were low on
- 5:23Speaker 1: police officers when they have to have Parvoll was sworn
- 5:25Speaker 1: in as mayor. The problem seems to have only gotten worse,
- 5:31Speaker 1: I shouldn't say seems to has only gotten worse. More
- 5:34Speaker 1: people resigning, more people, more police officers that are in
- 5:37Speaker 1: the drop program, which you know could last I think
- 5:40Speaker 1: up to five years. Th're in the middle of that.
- 5:41Speaker 1: They're like, you know what, screw it, I'm gone. I'm
- 5:44Speaker 1: not sticking around. The longer you stay in it, the
- 5:46Speaker 1: more money you get from the pension. But you know what,
- 5:48Speaker 1: it's not worth it. The problem has not gotten better.
- 5:54Speaker 1: How many police classes could we have had since Pearlvoll
- 5:57Speaker 1: was sworn in his mayor. How much money was diverted
- 6:01Speaker 1: away from the police department. I mean, these are all
- 6:04Speaker 1: so fundamentally important in terms of questions and how the
- 6:08Speaker 1: city is run, that you should be clamoring to get
- 6:12Speaker 1: to the to the ballot or to the polls. Sitting
- 6:16Speaker 1: around tapping your foot waiting for the next election, so
- 6:18Speaker 1: you can, you know, put your foot down, or maybe
- 6:21Speaker 1: bring about the change that you're looking for people who
- 6:24Speaker 1: are interested in serving the community to have a better
- 6:26Speaker 1: prioritization list. With regard to government money, the limited amount
- 6:31Speaker 1: of money that flows into city government. We all know
- 6:33Speaker 1: it's limited. That's why they sold the railroad, at least
- 6:35Speaker 1: the pretext for it. We need more money. Look, we
- 6:37Speaker 1: got more money coming in. Where's it going? You got
- 6:42Speaker 1: to marry prioritize, prioritizes green. He said it out loud.
- 6:48Speaker 1: Go look the record, the internet. You know, things are
- 6:50Speaker 1: on the internet. They never go away. It's right there.
- 6:52Speaker 7: You know.
- 6:53Speaker 1: I view everything first priority from a green lens or
- 6:56Speaker 1: an environmental lens. What in the hell the city of
- 6:59Speaker 1: Cincinnati can do about the global warming? I don't know
- 7:02Speaker 1: how Bill Gates just gave up on the whole concept.
- 7:06Speaker 1: Now convenient for Bill Gates about his changing his narrative
- 7:11Speaker 1: on oh my god, we're all going to die to
- 7:13Speaker 1: you know what, Na, We're not. We're not. Everything's going
- 7:19Speaker 1: to be fine. It will not lead to humanity's demise.
- 7:23Speaker 1: Now because his his AI farms, these massive facilities require
- 7:29Speaker 1: a lot of power, he's changed gears. H Now, is
- 7:32Speaker 1: that him putting his profits ahead of the planet. They're
- 7:38Speaker 1: accusing oil companies of that. Just parenthetically want to interject that, yes,
- 7:42Speaker 1: profit over the planet. They're all going to die thanks
- 7:44Speaker 1: to the evil oil companies who are responsible for a
- 7:48Speaker 1: lot of things, including the existence of in the ready
- 7:52Speaker 1: availability of plastics. They need to be sued into bankruptcy
- 7:57Speaker 1: because well global warming. Well here's Bill Gates, after years
- 8:00Speaker 1: of you know, telling you that we need to worry
- 8:03Speaker 1: about this existential threat, now saying no, it's not. It
- 8:07Speaker 1: is not an existential threat. You know, we're gonna all
- 8:17Speaker 1: laugh about this some day. I can only pray the
- 8:24Speaker 1: American farmers. Currently number of cattle heads of beef out
- 8:31Speaker 1: in the world limited. We haven't had this few beef
- 8:34Speaker 1: cattle heads in the United States since the nineteen fifties.
- 8:37Speaker 1: Price of beef's gone up quite substantially. You may have
- 8:40Speaker 1: noticed that when you go to your grocery store. Donald
- 8:44Speaker 1: Trump's talking about importing beef from what Argentina to help
- 8:47Speaker 1: you and I deal with the price of beef, much
- 8:49Speaker 1: to the chagrin of the American farmer who was saying, no,
- 8:51Speaker 1: that's gonna hurt us. Great, go ahead and try to
- 8:54Speaker 1: figure that one out. We're gonna laugh someday that we
- 8:59Speaker 1: were blas I mean cow flatulence for global temperature change.
- 9:06Speaker 1: I mean, just pause for a moment and think about
- 9:08Speaker 1: the absurd absurdity of that. And you know behind that
- 9:15Speaker 1: is the pedo folks and the folks we shouldn't eat
- 9:22Speaker 1: beef at all because I don't know, it's immoral or something.
- 9:25Speaker 1: They were able to wrap all this up in one big, tight, convenient,
- 9:28Speaker 1: we're all going to die global warming climate change narrative.
- 9:34Speaker 1: But when reality shows up, when the pressure to adopt
- 9:39Speaker 1: an electric stove and ban gas stoves kicks in, when
- 9:43Speaker 1: the pressure to buy an electric vehicle and give up
- 9:47Speaker 1: your internal combustion engine finally comes home to roost, and
- 9:51Speaker 1: we all realize that the grid cannot handle these edicts
- 9:56Speaker 1: and mandates. Oh and then there's this whole artificial intell
- 10:00Speaker 1: diligence revolution going on that we need to get ahead of.
- 10:03Speaker 1: Otherwise the Chinese Communist Party is going to dominate the
- 10:06Speaker 1: industry and we're all going to lose our jobs, which
- 10:08Speaker 1: we may anyway because of AI, which regardless of where
- 10:11Speaker 1: it's created and and and and encouraged and developed, it's
- 10:16Speaker 1: coming here and we need power to do it. So
- 10:20Speaker 1: taxing the grid with all the global warming efforts was
- 10:23Speaker 1: one thing. Now that billionaire companies have realized that they
- 10:27Speaker 1: need massive amounts of stable power, they turn their back
- 10:32Speaker 1: on the green agenda. Bill Gates is just Domino number one.
- 10:36Speaker 1: You know, they're all going to join in the course
- 10:38Speaker 1: of this, all of them, because if they don't, they're
- 10:45Speaker 1: not going to get the electricity they need. But thankfully
- 10:50Speaker 1: because of them, well actually after learning, after after their
- 10:54Speaker 1: billions of dollars have been thrown at the effort to
- 10:57Speaker 1: convince us that our exhalation is killing us, they're using
- 11:00Speaker 1: their billions of dollars to turn their back on that
- 11:02Speaker 1: and encourage like, for example, I've been mentioning a lot
- 11:05Speaker 1: lately nuclear power, which ultimately will inure to our benefit.
- 11:11Speaker 1: It's a crazy, crazy, crazy situation. I'm just glad I
- 11:14Speaker 1: was able to get it. It just lived through this moment
- 11:17Speaker 1: in time. Because all of this has happened within the
- 11:19Speaker 1: last like two two three decades, twenty five years. We've
- 11:23Speaker 1: gone from in my lifetime from we're all going to
- 11:26Speaker 1: die because the Earth is going to what was it freeze?
- 11:30Speaker 1: We're all going to freeze to death. Yeah, I remember
- 11:35Speaker 1: the in Search of episode with Leonard Nimoy. Yes, back
- 11:38Speaker 1: in the mid seventies, we were all going to freeze
- 11:39Speaker 1: the death. The new ice Age is coming. Remember the
- 11:41Speaker 1: blizzards of the seventies here in this particular area of
- 11:44Speaker 1: the world, Right, we're all going to die from freezing.
- 11:47Speaker 1: Back then, the temperatures would be lowered because the pollution
- 11:52Speaker 1: was going to block the rays of the sun and
- 11:55Speaker 1: we were all going to die. Didn't work out, Huh,
- 12:00Speaker 1: let's change the discussion. Okay, the Sun is heating the
- 12:04Speaker 1: globe up. These gases, these pollutants are now trapping the
- 12:09Speaker 1: heat on the planet, which is causing the ice caps
- 12:12Speaker 1: to melt and the polar bears to die, and oh
- 12:14Speaker 1: my god, we're all gonna burn up and die. Nope,
- 12:18Speaker 1: that didn't happen either. Then it's just changed generally, which
- 12:22Speaker 1: allowed them to label any climate environ any environmental craziness
- 12:26Speaker 1: going on, a hurricane, a tornado, whatever, all the consequence
- 12:30Speaker 1: of you and I breathing everything constantly moving target and
- 12:39Speaker 1: now apparently because we need electricity in abundant never any supply,
- 12:46Speaker 1: that argument is going by the wayside. Five seventeen fifty
- 12:50Speaker 1: five krosee Detalk Station five one thirty seven on a Friday,
- 12:55Speaker 1: Eve five eight, two to three Talk. Let's go the
- 13:00Speaker 1: phones with Jay's guy this morning, Jay, Happy Thursday. Welcome
- 13:03Speaker 1: the show, Happy Thursday.
- 13:05Speaker 8: Brian, Hey, I'm listening from iHeartMedia app and I'm down
- 13:10Speaker 8: down in Florida on on work. Hey, I was listening
- 13:15Speaker 8: last night after work as everybody can to Brian Thomas
- 13:18Speaker 8: episodes on fifty five KRC APPRT Heart Listen to the
- 13:25Speaker 8: interview with Teresa Thigi's brothers, and no doubt that we
- 13:30Speaker 8: owe that family a dead of gratitude. But I am
- 13:32Speaker 8: I continually find myself these days on the other side
- 13:36Speaker 8: of the fence from a lot of conservatives, and and
- 13:40Speaker 8: I let's not forget who Teresa Thigi is. The person
- 13:46Speaker 8: who Teresa Thiji ought to blame most for her demise
- 13:49Speaker 8: is herself. She was you go take a look at
- 13:53Speaker 8: her social media posts, big believer in diversity, equity and inclusion.
- 13:59Speaker 8: Huge quarter of that. He knew when she got in
- 14:02Speaker 8: bed with the little commie, the mayor there aftab that
- 14:07Speaker 8: what she was getting into. And as with all communists,
- 14:12Speaker 8: you'd go back and take a look at Stalin and
- 14:14Speaker 8: Paul Pott and all the rest of them. He's just
- 14:15Speaker 8: a little commy. They have a way of taking out
- 14:18Speaker 8: their own and just go back and take a look
- 14:21Speaker 8: at her statements after the beatdown in downtown Cincinnati, after
- 14:25Speaker 8: Holly got punched in the face, and Teresa THEGI was
- 14:28Speaker 8: wagging her chubby little finger and saying that you know,
- 14:32Speaker 8: social media didn't get the context, right I e. That
- 14:35Speaker 8: means you all and me and everybody else, we were
- 14:39Speaker 8: missing context, that there was something else in the video
- 14:42Speaker 8: that we didn't see, and immediately implying that there was
- 14:47Speaker 8: something that was validated that would cause that kind of
- 14:50Speaker 8: violent response. And here we are all these this time later,
- 14:55Speaker 8: and there is nothing. So she got caught up in
- 14:59Speaker 8: her own beliefs and you know, worshiping the DEI culture
- 15:02Speaker 8: that you know, I think would result in her getting
- 15:05Speaker 8: a job that she wasn't qualified for that. We don't
- 15:08Speaker 8: need to really rally around Teresa Beiji, in my humble opinion,
- 15:13Speaker 8: just like we don't need to rally around calling any
- 15:16Speaker 8: phone number to try to get this government open. Since
- 15:19Speaker 8: when has conservatives sit there and bit our fingernails, sweating
- 15:24Speaker 8: it out saying there's a call to action that we
- 15:26Speaker 8: got to get this federal government open, or we the
- 15:28Speaker 8: party the likes more government and likes more spending, we'd
- 15:31Speaker 8: like the trajectory of this federal government.
- 15:34Speaker 1: Jay, you've thrown in the towel. I guess you've completely
- 15:36Speaker 1: given up of the process.
- 15:38Speaker 8: Well, I love the process. If we go back to
- 15:41Speaker 8: the seventeen early.
- 15:42Speaker 1: Age, We're not We're five. Jay, I'm trying to be
- 15:45Speaker 1: practical in a realist under current circumstances. I'm not going
- 15:48Speaker 1: to wax poetic about the way it used to be.
- 15:51Speaker 1: I mean, the process, job, the process includes action by
- 15:57Speaker 1: the citizen r And I've heard it from every politician
- 15:59Speaker 1: for the last twenty that I've been talking to on radio.
- 16:02Speaker 1: Those calls actually mean something to them. I Mean, you
- 16:05Speaker 1: rarely hear from well you just got done saying here
- 16:08Speaker 1: from calls with oction go and coach with you like
- 16:10Speaker 1: it's going to happen, like anything is going to make
- 16:12Speaker 1: a big difference. It may very well do.
- 16:14Speaker 8: I'm sorry, misinterpretation that sounded like what it is going.
- 16:18Speaker 7: To be effected. I'm afraid it's going to be affected.
- 16:21Speaker 8: Oh have we decided that we need more federal government
- 16:25Speaker 8: when you take a look at your faith check and
- 16:26Speaker 8: take a look.
- 16:27Speaker 1: At psycha all right, Well, the broader problem, obviously is
- 16:31Speaker 1: the the insane size scope and reckless spending and fraud,
- 16:35Speaker 1: waste and abuse of government programs. Generally speaking, the impact
- 16:39Speaker 1: they have on our freedoms and liberties all agree with
- 16:41Speaker 1: you with all day long. And it may take something
- 16:44Speaker 1: like a all hell, I don't know, a depression, the
- 16:47Speaker 1: collapse of the fiad, currency, violence, chaos, MASSESTERI in the
- 16:51Speaker 1: street to change the process and bring it back to
- 16:53Speaker 1: some measure of sanity or bring about the revolution that
- 16:57Speaker 1: the leftists are looking for. But you know, as of
- 16:59Speaker 1: right now, I don't know the answer to the problem.
- 17:02Speaker 1: I just seems to me that logic, reason and simple
- 17:05Speaker 1: two and two is four mathematics would wake people up
- 17:08Speaker 1: to the reality we are broke, We're on a perilous
- 17:14Speaker 1: downward spiral in terms of this spending of federal government,
- 17:18Speaker 1: what do we get from it? I'm with you all
- 17:19Speaker 1: day long, Jay, but I don't know the answer to
- 17:22Speaker 1: the question other than it's going to take something catastrophic
- 17:25Speaker 1: to bring us to wake up. What do you think, Jay,
- 17:28Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, what's it going to take for the
- 17:30Speaker 1: world to wake up to this insanity?
- 17:34Speaker 8: Well, I'm not sure I know the answer either other
- 17:36Speaker 8: than right now, I think I like the direction we're
- 17:39Speaker 8: heading in where we've tried, Doge, We've tried all my
- 17:43Speaker 8: fifty some years old, We've tried to elect conservatives. They're
- 17:47Speaker 8: spending as fast or just a little bit slower than
- 17:49Speaker 8: the Democrats want us. Man, shutting the government down and
- 17:52Speaker 8: pushing the power and the money and the control back
- 17:55Speaker 8: to the States is a good first step. But so
- 17:58Speaker 8: here we are with an opportunity unity and the voices
- 18:01Speaker 8: now and this isn't directed to your brothers, so don't
- 18:03Speaker 8: don't don't don't think I'm throwing this at you, but
- 18:06Speaker 8: the voices on the writer saying, jeez, we've got to
- 18:08Speaker 8: reopen this federal government. Why how about how about we
- 18:12Speaker 8: we the way you if you want to reduce the
- 18:15Speaker 8: size and expense is to is to shut it down
- 18:17Speaker 8: half of the year. And you know it's not a
- 18:20Speaker 8: full time job. Go up once a month for a
- 18:23Speaker 8: one week a month, right, you know, you do your
- 18:26Speaker 8: business and then go back to work.
- 18:29Speaker 1: Well, I think the big problem is if you've got
- 18:32Speaker 1: one of eight people on Snap and you've got one
- 18:34Speaker 1: third of the of the entire US population receiving some
- 18:38Speaker 1: government service, some measure of assistance, and you stop that.
- 18:43Speaker 1: Even conservatives have to appreciate there could be a riot
- 18:46Speaker 1: on their hands. We already have people talking about rioting
- 18:49Speaker 1: and looting and stealing from snores merely because the three
- 18:52Speaker 1: hundred and fifty bucks a month they get from Snap
- 18:54Speaker 1: benefits is going to be cut off. If three hundred
- 18:56Speaker 1: and fifty bucks is what exists between you and starvation,
- 19:00Speaker 1: and yeah, I can see people taking to the streets
- 19:02Speaker 1: on that. So while you want government to shut down,
- 19:04Speaker 1: you want people to just live without the insane spending
- 19:08Speaker 1: from federal government, the practical reality is you're gonna have
- 19:10Speaker 1: a lot of people who are hopeless, in desperation, perhaps
- 19:13Speaker 1: ignorant because of the failures of the education system, incapable
- 19:16Speaker 1: of taking care of themselves because of the promise of
- 19:19Speaker 1: government that they will be there to take care of you.
- 19:21Speaker 1: All of that evaporating. That's crisis. Republicans don't want to
- 19:25Speaker 1: own crisis. It's going to be great optics for the left.
- 19:28Speaker 1: Look at the chaos in the streets brought about by
- 19:30Speaker 1: these evil Republicans and folks like Jay who shut the
- 19:34Speaker 1: government down. Great idea conceptually, practically speaking, you got to
- 19:39Speaker 1: deal with the implications of doing just that. And I
- 19:42Speaker 1: don't think any of them have an answer to that,
- 19:45Speaker 1: and I don't think any of them want to find
- 19:47Speaker 1: out what it's going to look like, although maybe the
- 19:49Speaker 1: left is embracing the concept of that. Maybe that's what
- 19:52Speaker 1: they're looking for. They want chaos in the streets, and
- 19:57Speaker 1: they'll keep the government shut down until it's brought about.
- 20:00Speaker 1: Appreciated Jay, as always five twenty nine. Right now if
- 20:02Speaker 1: you five care see the talk station. Opportunity to get
- 20:04Speaker 1: plumb type plumbing on the job. You have a house,
- 20:06Speaker 1: you got a residence, right, let's get him in the
- 20:08Speaker 1: order in which there was See Patrick, you are number one.
- 20:10Speaker 1: Everybody else hang on and get right to you as
- 20:12Speaker 1: soon as I can. Patrick, Thanks for calling.
- 20:15Speaker 9: Hey, good morning, Brian, Well, you know part of the
- 20:18Speaker 9: here say a lot of the a lot of Americans.
- 20:23Speaker 1: Patrick, you are breaking up to the point where I
- 20:25Speaker 1: can't hear but every third or fourth word.
- 20:28Speaker 10: So I'm sorry.
- 20:30Speaker 11: I'll call back.
- 20:31Speaker 1: Go ahead, see talk now, see if it works. Okay, no,
- 20:36Speaker 1: it's not. It's not, Patrick, but you're gonna have to
- 20:38Speaker 1: call back in it did. The line's a bad one.
- 20:40Speaker 1: Who's next? Joe Tracker, New Hampshire, Gary, Welcome to the program.
- 20:43Speaker 1: Good to hear from you.
- 20:45Speaker 5: How you doing, Brian, Hey, now that global warming is
- 20:49Speaker 5: not a threat, I was just wondering if this is
- 20:52Speaker 5: going too involved in removing all the small catalytic converter
- 20:57Speaker 5: conversions that we put on our vehicle swivel and add
- 21:02Speaker 5: god knows how much money to the price of a
- 21:06Speaker 5: new car parasols pray, then how about.
- 21:10Speaker 1: No, no, now, I I'll just give it on to
- 21:14Speaker 1: the idea of those I know they've added a lot
- 21:16Speaker 1: to the cost of the car. I know how expensive
- 21:17Speaker 1: they are. But if you are legitimately looking to get
- 21:21Speaker 1: real pollutants out of the air, those do serve to
- 21:26Speaker 1: do that, not carbon dioxide, which isn't a blank and pollute.
- 21:30Speaker 1: I want to curse so many times when I come up,
- 21:32Speaker 1: when this topic comes up, I can barely restrain myself.
- 21:35Speaker 1: Carbon dioxide isn't a pollutant. Catalytic converters do not get
- 21:38Speaker 1: rid of carbon dioxide. We're not trying. We shouldn't be
- 21:40Speaker 1: trying to get rid of carbon dioxide. This is where
- 21:42Speaker 1: the whole thing went off the rails. We do and
- 21:45Speaker 1: always encourage getting rid of things like lead and mercury
- 21:48Speaker 1: and genuine pollutants which are documented to be carcinogetic or
- 21:53Speaker 1: bad or evil or whatever. I know. Free on was,
- 21:56Speaker 1: you know, the whole idea of the hole in the
- 21:58Speaker 1: ozone layer, that whole it's gotten smaller. We got rid
- 22:01Speaker 1: of free on a long time ago. Let's give a
- 22:03Speaker 1: nod to the elimination of free on out in there
- 22:05Speaker 1: of the world, because apparently it's going to be protecting
- 22:07Speaker 1: us from skin cancer or something. But at least you
- 22:09Speaker 1: can identify it as a non naturally occurring pollutant worthy
- 22:13Speaker 1: of getting rid of or argument. At least you can
- 22:15Speaker 1: make an argument for getting rid of it. Not carbon dioxide.
- 22:20Speaker 5: So what about what about scrubbers on electric plants?
- 22:25Speaker 1: Same thing, same thing they've made coal production electricity clean
- 22:32Speaker 1: as a consequence of the scrubbers. Apparently, scrubbers are a
- 22:36Speaker 1: technology that's affordable and easy or not easy to accomplish,
- 22:39Speaker 1: but at least it works to achieve the elimination of
- 22:42Speaker 1: the bad things like acid rain. That kind of stuff
- 22:46Speaker 1: that works for that carbon capture is where again we
- 22:51Speaker 1: went off the rails. It's just insanity. They're just trying
- 22:54Speaker 1: to find something else to force us into a corner
- 22:58Speaker 1: to well in the name of saving planet, to make
- 23:01Speaker 1: life more difficult for all of us, to make energy
- 23:03Speaker 1: production that much more expensive. I mean, all I can
- 23:09Speaker 1: conclude after all of this nonsense is to a nod
- 23:12Speaker 1: to the people who've been complaining about they're wanting to
- 23:15Speaker 1: control us. Maureen, I'll acknowledge you population control. Maybe I'm
- 23:21Speaker 1: not sure all of it though, if you step back,
- 23:24Speaker 1: looks crazy and maybe we're all waking up to that,
- 23:29Speaker 1: and I sure as hell hope we are. By thirty six,
- 23:33Speaker 1: looks like Tom and Bobby are on the phone. We'll
- 23:34Speaker 1: get to the call if you don't mind holding for
- 23:37Speaker 1: By forty one fifty five, Karrosite Talks Station, Happy Friday, Eve,
- 23:41Speaker 1: Gonna go straight to the phone's or gonna be have
- 23:42Speaker 1: Patrick another shot, Tom, Bobby, Hang on a second, Patrick,
- 23:46Speaker 1: Let's give it a try. Hey, Brian, hows this much better?
- 23:49Speaker 9: A little bit better?
- 23:50Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 23:50Speaker 9: Okay, yeah, I apologize about that. I was going down
- 23:53Speaker 9: his zero's cell phone. But so anyway, the reason that
- 23:56Speaker 9: I called is that, you know the problem that we
- 23:59Speaker 9: can in this country is that we have created a
- 24:02Speaker 9: culture to where we have allowed people to have too
- 24:07Speaker 9: much entitlement as far as their their personal belongings. And
- 24:11Speaker 9: what I'm getting at is that you know, the people
- 24:14Speaker 9: that want to get hooked into the government programs are
- 24:17Speaker 9: sitting here with you know, high dollar cell phones, you know,
- 24:22Speaker 9: high speed internet. You know, they're driving around in cars.
- 24:27Speaker 9: So my question is is that you know, if you
- 24:29Speaker 9: have the ability to afford all of this, then you know,
- 24:33Speaker 9: what are you really that worried about? You know, why
- 24:37Speaker 9: are you hooked up to this government program to begin with?
- 24:40Speaker 9: You know, where did we get into the culture of
- 24:42Speaker 9: you know, well, hey, if I just need more money
- 24:44Speaker 9: a month, I'll just pop another kid out. And that
- 24:48Speaker 9: is part of the problem where we have created this.
- 24:51Speaker 9: And then you know, the government just turns around and says, oh,
- 24:54Speaker 9: here you need more Well, here's another spoonful of government
- 24:57Speaker 9: program for you, and then what runs out of money?
- 25:00Speaker 9: They're in a panic when people take a look at
- 25:04Speaker 9: your life and take a look at how you've lifted
- 25:06Speaker 9: and start being responsible. And I see elderly people that
- 25:10Speaker 9: can't even afford medicine that they desperately need. And then
- 25:15Speaker 9: these people are out there on their one hundred dollars
- 25:17Speaker 9: cell phones crying about this.
- 25:21Speaker 1: One hundred thousand thousand dollars cell phones. Yeah, if, oh,
- 25:28Speaker 1: if we only lived in a time where the cell
- 25:29Speaker 1: phones are merely a hundred dollars, then you have that
- 25:31Speaker 1: pesky monthly free to use the cell phone. And then
- 25:35Speaker 1: you have to have your Netflix service and your Hulu service,
- 25:38Speaker 1: and your Amazon Prime service and your Hbo Plus, and
- 25:41Speaker 1: you got to be It goes on and on and on.
- 25:44Speaker 1: Every dollar the federal government goes toward your food or
- 25:47Speaker 1: your housing, or your healthcare. That frees up money so
- 25:50Speaker 1: you can buy these other things that you deem crucial
- 25:54Speaker 1: and integral to your life and necessary and must have.
- 25:57Speaker 1: It's like internet access. You and I have the American
- 25:59Speaker 1: taxpayer paying to bring internet access to literally every man,
- 26:02Speaker 1: woman in child in America. Why because well, we all
- 26:05Speaker 1: need it. I guess Tom, Welcome to the Morning show.
- 26:08Speaker 1: Thanks for holding Yeah, good.
- 26:10Speaker 11: Morning, and Patrick, I feel your pain. I'm getting learning
- 26:14Speaker 11: better and better as I come up to this job
- 26:16Speaker 11: more often where my dead spots are and uh yeah,
- 26:20Speaker 11: I was right in the middle of one yesterday, so
- 26:22Speaker 11: I wasn't able to finish my thoughts. So I think
- 26:25Speaker 11: what I think what Jay was. The argument that Jay
- 26:30Speaker 11: is hitting on and that you are arguing back with,
- 26:33Speaker 11: is we're we're all trying to come up with a
- 26:36Speaker 11: a landing way to land Like you're you're kind of
- 26:42Speaker 11: maybe you're not thinking you're doing this, but you're kind
- 26:44Speaker 11: of advocating for a softer landing because of the potential
- 26:50Speaker 11: riots that might happen. And Jay's like, screw it, I
- 26:53Speaker 11: don't care. Let's just lay in this thing. Let's try
- 26:55Speaker 11: and burn. And I and I get I get both
- 27:00Speaker 11: at both arguments. I do because because regardless of how
- 27:03Speaker 11: it lands, Uh, this thing's coming down eventually, it's gonna
- 27:08Speaker 11: happen one way or another. So we either start bringing
- 27:11Speaker 11: it down ourselves, and the politicians don't want to be
- 27:15Speaker 11: blamed for crashing and burning, but it's it's got to
- 27:18Speaker 11: come down. It cannot stay afloat.
- 27:21Speaker 4: It has to uh.
- 27:22Speaker 11: And and what Patrick was touching on is uh, at
- 27:27Speaker 11: some point we've been talking about this, you've gotta feel
- 27:30Speaker 11: some pain. Everybody's gonna have to feel some pain. And unfortunately,
- 27:35Speaker 11: the people who have put themselves or allowed themselves to
- 27:38Speaker 11: stay in a position where they are dependent upon the
- 27:40Speaker 11: government are are going to feel it really bad. They're
- 27:44Speaker 11: gonna they're gonna get hit. They're getting ready, no member first,
- 27:47Speaker 11: and getting ready snap paint. There's no money for snap. Okay,
- 27:50Speaker 11: that that's a wow. That's holy crap. What are we
- 27:53Speaker 11: gonna do. Well, what we're gonna do is we're gonna
- 27:56Speaker 11: we're gonna buckle up and figure out a way to
- 27:58Speaker 11: get through this. That's what he individual person has to
- 28:01Speaker 11: deal with. And I'm not trying to say it's easy.
- 28:03Speaker 10: It's not.
- 28:04Speaker 11: It's going to suck. It's gonna suck for all of us.
- 28:07Speaker 11: But if we're gonna either we're gonna run out of
- 28:09Speaker 11: money giving it all away, or we're gonna run out
- 28:11Speaker 11: of money, and it's gonna take a little longer because
- 28:14Speaker 11: we're gonna, little by a little start chipping away at
- 28:16Speaker 11: it bringing it back. How little exactly that is, I
- 28:19Speaker 11: don't know, but it takes people with Judge to say,
- 28:21Speaker 11: I understand this is going to hurt. I'm really sorry,
- 28:24Speaker 11: this is gonna hurt, but we've got to do something
- 28:27Speaker 11: to fix this. We've got to bring it down. And
- 28:29Speaker 11: nobody wants to be the person from the family and go,
- 28:32Speaker 11: I understand this is going to hurt and we're not
- 28:35Speaker 11: doing it, but the Democrats are doing it to try
- 28:38Speaker 11: to win something politically. Well, that's not why it's going
- 28:41Speaker 11: to hurt. It's gonna hurt because we're running out of money, folks.
- 28:43Speaker 11: We've gotta do something about this, and we're not gonna
- 28:46Speaker 11: do it with Rhinos and Democrats. They're just gonna spend
- 28:49Speaker 11: it all and we're gonna come straight down, crash and burn,
- 28:53Speaker 11: and it's gonna hurt like catastrophically. Don't vote Rhino and
- 28:57Speaker 11: don't vote Democrat.
- 28:58Speaker 4: Have a great day.
- 28:58Speaker 1: Thanks, Tom, appreciate it. One of them unnecessarily advocating for
- 29:01Speaker 1: that soft flame. I'm just merely trying to explain what
- 29:03Speaker 1: I believe, what I perceive personally. We all know what
- 29:06Speaker 1: opinions are like, the political dynamic that our elected officials
- 29:10Speaker 1: are wrestling with is it going to be chaotic or
- 29:14Speaker 1: is it going to be a softer approach to this?
- 29:16Speaker 1: But fundamentally, I think Tom's right. We either fix the problem,
- 29:21Speaker 1: you know, I keep the government shut down, bring this
- 29:23Speaker 1: situation to people's awareness, recognize that opening the government up
- 29:27Speaker 1: under the long the Democrats' terms and conditions are going
- 29:29Speaker 1: to add additional one point five trillion dollars to the
- 29:33Speaker 1: national debt, or were going to start chipping away at
- 29:35Speaker 1: the national debt slowly and surely and methodically, like for example,
- 29:39Speaker 1: with one of Senator Ran Paul's proposals, like the one
- 29:42Speaker 1: percent of the five percent plan. Something has got to
- 29:44Speaker 1: give five forty seven and fifty five kcity talk stations.
- 29:47Speaker 1: You do, and you go straight to the phones. Bobby's
- 29:49Speaker 1: been on hold. Bobby, thanks for holding.
- 29:51Speaker 10: Welcome to the program, Happy Thursday, my brother. Right at
- 29:55Speaker 10: you sites, flags, family and farms, you keep those. You're
- 29:59Speaker 10: all always have your freedom.
- 30:01Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think the latter's becoming more and more
- 30:03Speaker 1: appropriate to think about. But yeah, go ahead, Bobby. What's
- 30:05Speaker 1: you going today?
- 30:07Speaker 10: Well, I'm discussed about the pollutants and everything that we're
- 30:11Speaker 10: trying to get rid of. Your socialist Democrats and your
- 30:15Speaker 10: biggest pollutants that you ever had. They polluted society, they
- 30:19Speaker 10: polluted the mindset of people around you. This shutdown that
- 30:23Speaker 10: we have, I hope it goes another sixty days. That way,
- 30:28Speaker 10: at the end of the year, all these subsidies and
- 30:30Speaker 10: everything will go by the wayside. It'll be cold and
- 30:33Speaker 10: wet outside, and these left wing Marxists aren't going to
- 30:36Speaker 10: get on the street and protest when it's raining and cold.
- 30:39Speaker 1: Well, there you go. That may be they are only
- 30:41Speaker 1: source of revenue since these are funded by multi billionaire
- 30:44Speaker 1: entities out in the world. They get paid to show
- 30:46Speaker 1: up and protest. Bobby, maybe there'll be more of them
- 30:49Speaker 1: since they're not getting their snap benefits or something. I
- 30:51Speaker 1: don't know.
- 30:53Speaker 10: They're worried about these subsidies and everything. They'll expire after
- 30:56Speaker 10: the first of the year. Hang on there, they can't
- 30:59Speaker 10: wait another sixty days.
- 31:01Speaker 1: Well, no, they are going to add Yeah, the legislation
- 31:04Speaker 1: itself said the subsidies for Obamacare expire at the end
- 31:07Speaker 1: of the year. Who's responsible for the termination of that.
- 31:09Speaker 1: The Democrats. It was their bill, they passed it, they
- 31:11Speaker 1: put it in there. So the subsidies end. Thanks to
- 31:14Speaker 1: the Democrats. Period, end of story. Whether the government's open
- 31:17Speaker 1: or shut down, they end as a matter of law.
- 31:21Speaker 1: So wait for it.
- 31:23Speaker 10: And and I tell you something else. Support your police
- 31:27Speaker 10: chiefs down there that they went ahead and did what
- 31:29Speaker 10: they did too. Yeah, you got to look at what
- 31:31Speaker 10: they've done for the poor lady and the everything she
- 31:34Speaker 10: supported her life and everything support this city to protect
- 31:37Speaker 10: and serve. I don't care about DEI dea and all
- 31:41Speaker 10: the other letters you want to do in this scrabble set.
- 31:44Speaker 10: It doesn't matter. These people, these socialist democrats, will go
- 31:48Speaker 10: ahead and cut off anybody's head to go ahead and
- 31:51Speaker 10: prove their points.
- 31:53Speaker 1: Yeah, they're the ones that are the problem. That's a
- 31:55Speaker 1: boxer from Animal Farm. If you're not familiar with the character,
- 31:59Speaker 1: read the book. Do you some good. Appreciate the call,
- 32:01Speaker 1: Bobby as always, thanks brother. Yeah, and you know, let's
- 32:05Speaker 1: say we want to have a police chief three Sthigia.
- 32:07Speaker 1: I think she was doing what she was told to do,
- 32:09Speaker 1: you know, not. I think was jay Or in the
- 32:11Speaker 1: program I'm talking about her, you know, posting woke things
- 32:13Speaker 1: and you know, embracing d or whatever that's her boss.
- 32:19Speaker 1: I think she was doing what her boss told her
- 32:22Speaker 1: to do, right, or wrong. I mean if you I
- 32:26Speaker 1: personally wouldn't say I've said it before. Like if I
- 32:29Speaker 1: was told I had to say something specifically on the program.
- 32:33Speaker 1: My boss came and said, you must speak about this
- 32:35Speaker 1: political topic, or you must characterize this political topic in
- 32:38Speaker 1: a certain way. You must have this conclusion, I'd quit.
- 32:45Speaker 1: Some people need their job. They're willing to sacrifice maybe
- 32:51Speaker 1: their belief systems, their thirty five years in law enforcement,
- 32:54Speaker 1: and their knowledge of best practices in favor of doing
- 32:57Speaker 1: what their bosses tell them to do. And ultimately, I
- 33:00Speaker 1: think that's probably what's going to come out of all this.
- 33:03Speaker 1: This idea of investigating Thiji with this law firmed look
- 33:07Speaker 1: into her years as police chief to find out if
- 33:09Speaker 1: there's anything at all that she's done that might serve
- 33:12Speaker 1: to justify they're already executed decision to put her on
- 33:19Speaker 1: administrative leave. What was the predicate for that? Does anybody
- 33:22Speaker 1: know yet? Nope, we don't know. They don't have anything,
- 33:25Speaker 1: and they would have told you. I think, ultimately what's
- 33:30Speaker 1: going to happen The investigation revealed that she was doing
- 33:32Speaker 1: what she was told to do, perhaps even over her
- 33:35Speaker 1: own objections. Fifty five come up with five fifty six
- 33:38Speaker 1: fifty five krc DE talk station plenty more coming up
- 33:41Speaker 1: with the six.
- 33:41Speaker 2: Corps on the iHeartRadio WAPP.
- 33:43Speaker 8: I like that.
- 33:44Speaker 12: I can just download it and listen right away.
- 33:46Speaker 2: Fifty five krs the talk station.
- 33:52Speaker 1: Six h six to fifty five KRSC the talk station
- 33:54Speaker 1: Brian Thomas inviting phone calls. Interesting conversation gone in the
- 33:58Speaker 1: last hour, so much so, conversation continued all the way
- 34:01Speaker 1: through the stack of stupid five one, three, seven, fifty eight,
- 34:04Speaker 1: two to three talk Pound Fi fifty on eight and
- 34:06Speaker 1: t film. You can extend that conversation, We'll do so
- 34:09Speaker 1: in just a moment. Here we'll remind you. Coming up
- 34:10Speaker 1: in an hour, Congressman Warren Davidson returns. Will the shutdown ever?
- 34:15Speaker 1: And maybe it won't? What does that mean? We'll get
- 34:19Speaker 1: to that here. Well, the GOP senators blink and give in.
- 34:22Speaker 1: We'll talk to Congressman Davidson about that. Coming up in
- 34:24Speaker 1: an hour, followed by the Empire Youth Seminar Deanna Binki.
- 34:27Speaker 1: It's I believe I'm pronouncing that wreck. Apologies, Yankee. Well,
- 34:32Speaker 1: we're gonna hear from her doing a seminar about the
- 34:34Speaker 1: history of World War II. Propaganda poster should be a
- 34:37Speaker 1: real interesting and enlightening seminar that'll take place at seven
- 34:41Speaker 1: thirty the initial discussion and Andre Ewing brother Dre thirty
- 34:45Speaker 1: years a story, law enforcement career, outspoken critic of the
- 34:49Speaker 1: City of Cincinnati, advocate for maybe going in a different direction,
- 34:53Speaker 1: like voting for Corey Bowman elections going on right now.
- 34:55Speaker 1: You can go ahead and vote and please steer the
- 34:57Speaker 1: city of the Cincinnati in a different path.
- 35:00Speaker 2: Question.
- 35:02Speaker 1: I just got a text earlier in the morning from
- 35:05Speaker 1: Christopher's smithm and Democrats are the council apparently? And I
- 35:10Speaker 1: please explain how one hundercent of the Democratics since a
- 35:12Speaker 1: city council and county are complaining about SNAP benefits being
- 35:16Speaker 1: close to being cut off November first, there is a
- 35:19Speaker 1: cutoff date. And I had to ask him, Are you
- 35:23Speaker 1: telling me that members of council are complaining about SNAP
- 35:26Speaker 1: coming up? Yes? They are, all right. Have any of
- 35:33Speaker 1: them asked for the government to reopen? Any of them
- 35:35Speaker 1: pointing at the Democrats are the ones that are keeping
- 35:37Speaker 1: the government shut down? No, of course not. It's a
- 35:45Speaker 1: legitimate question, Christopher. I appreciate you bringing to my attention. Okay,
- 35:49Speaker 1: and I want to pivot over to this because this
- 35:52Speaker 1: call ties into what we're talking about. In the last
- 35:53Speaker 1: hour they shutdown, okay, And my view of the Republican's
- 35:57Speaker 1: position on this is they're worried on some laele about
- 36:00Speaker 1: the anger violence, people taking it to the streets, the
- 36:03Speaker 1: threats that are already coming out on social media. If
- 36:05Speaker 1: you cut off my snap benefits, you know, I'm gonna riot,
- 36:08Speaker 1: I'm gonna steal, I'm gonna loot, I'm gonna pillage, blah
- 36:10Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. Okay, all right, And that's of
- 36:14Speaker 1: course going on with regard to the Trump administration's efforts
- 36:17Speaker 1: to remove the most dangerous of illegal immigrants in our country.
- 36:21Speaker 1: You see all the ANTIFA protests, people interfering with federal
- 36:24Speaker 1: law enforcement. Federal law is being enforced. The laws are
- 36:29Speaker 1: on the books, the federal law enforcement officers are there
- 36:32Speaker 1: to enforce the law. What do you get, You get
- 36:34Speaker 1: a rebellion from a slice of the population. And finally,
- 36:41Speaker 1: I'm glad to see the Trump administration in addition to
- 36:44Speaker 1: taking very paying very close attention to the organizational structure
- 36:49Speaker 1: behind Antifah and these other left wing organizations, they are
- 36:54Speaker 1: very well organized and very funded. They can trace the dollars.
- 36:59Speaker 1: You can see the activists all dressed up in their
- 37:02Speaker 1: you know, Communist Party issued black garb and with all
- 37:07Speaker 1: having the same designer mask and the designer tent and everything.
- 37:11Speaker 1: It's obviously a funded effort. They all look like they're
- 37:14Speaker 1: members of the same army, don't they. That's curious. Feds
- 37:20Speaker 1: just nabbed anti ICE activists in LA not illegal immigrants.
- 37:28Speaker 1: Federal authorities just yesterday arrested anti at least one anti
- 37:32Speaker 1: ICE protester, But they are going after the organizational structure
- 37:36Speaker 1: of the protesters themselves. There are multiple protest organizations, all
- 37:42Speaker 1: seem to be coordinated in an effort. This is segue
- 37:45Speaker 1: to basically a RICO action, coordinated activity among multiple people
- 37:51Speaker 1: for the purpose of committing crimes. That is basically right
- 37:54Speaker 1: there in the RICO wheelhouse. Maybe we'll be able to
- 37:57Speaker 1: go after these organizations and prosecute them, but ultimately, what
- 38:00Speaker 1: are these organizations after? And that's why I get a
- 38:05Speaker 1: turn to the words of Larry Clayman. You may have
- 38:09Speaker 1: heard of him. He is the founder of Judicial Watch
- 38:15Speaker 1: as well as Freedom Watch. He's an attorney and outspoken attorney.
- 38:18Speaker 1: He's been behind a lot of lawsuits in the past,
- 38:20Speaker 1: most notably against the Clinton administration. And he's been labeled
- 38:23Speaker 1: a conspiracy theorists and a racist, and of course all
- 38:26Speaker 1: the labels that are easily apply to literally anyone who's
- 38:29Speaker 1: on the other side of the left wing cause. But
- 38:34Speaker 1: here's what he had to say. And this concerns me
- 38:38Speaker 1: because I think he's right. So President Trump has been
- 38:42Speaker 1: incredibly successful in what he's done. He's not just shutting
- 38:44Speaker 1: down the border or negotiating peace treaties, and not to
- 38:47Speaker 1: President Trump yesterday working it out with Jijinping and getting
- 38:50Speaker 1: some relief perhaps on fentanyl with these tariffs. Anyway, it's
- 38:55Speaker 1: the record stock market and the economy is generally doing
- 38:59Speaker 1: very well. That inflation is coming down because of that success,
- 39:02Speaker 1: he says. Even Bill Maher says Trump has been successful.
- 39:06Speaker 1: The Democrats are panicking. And here's where he gets to
- 39:08Speaker 1: the point. They realize the only thing they can do
- 39:13Speaker 1: is foment revolution. They realize, as Karl Marx realized and
- 39:16Speaker 1: Salolensky realized, that the way you take control of society
- 39:20Speaker 1: is to destabilize it. You destabilize it by destroying Judeo
- 39:27Speaker 1: Christian values, you destabilize it by creating civil unrest and revolution.
- 39:33Speaker 1: And he mentioned info Wars, and you know, I got
- 39:35Speaker 1: a huge jaundiceiah skepticism over info wars. Conceptually speaking. I
- 39:40Speaker 1: know they foment conspiracy theories all the time. They've been
- 39:42Speaker 1: called out as being wrong variety of times, but they're
- 39:44Speaker 1: not always wrong. And he mentions this report from info wars,
- 39:50Speaker 1: and it'll pivot over to it. The Democratic Party is
- 39:52Speaker 1: officially bragging that they are going to use the EBT
- 39:55Speaker 1: snap Benefit shutdown to trigger mass looting and civil unrest
- 39:58Speaker 1: in the hope of igniting a civil war. Now that
- 40:00Speaker 1: sounds a little bold in its pronouncement. Is this really
- 40:05Speaker 1: that coordinating? Is this ultimately what they are really shooting for?
- 40:10Speaker 1: And so back to Claiman in response to that reporting
- 40:13Speaker 1: from info Wars, he said what was published in info
- 40:16Speaker 1: wars was not way out. It's absolutely correct, and that
- 40:19Speaker 1: is exactly what they are going to do. It will
- 40:21Speaker 1: be food riots and everything else. We've seen two assassination
- 40:25Speaker 1: attempts on President Trump. We've seen a bounty on the
- 40:27Speaker 1: head of Pam Bondi, We've seen the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
- 40:30Speaker 1: We've seen leaders in Chicago, and the governor of Illinois,
- 40:34Speaker 1: the mayor of Boston, Massachusetts, and all around the country
- 40:36Speaker 1: Portland and Seattle, all calling for violence. And here's the
- 40:42Speaker 1: concerning part that he comes to a conclusion over we
- 40:45Speaker 1: are in a situation where President Trump would be correct
- 40:50Speaker 1: in using the Insurrection Act of eighteen oh seven and
- 40:53Speaker 1: declaring martial law. I believe he's about ready to do it.
- 40:59Speaker 1: Then he goes on and talks to the number of
- 41:00Speaker 1: times martial law has been declared and that you know,
- 41:02Speaker 1: will be valid and justifiable in this situation, And that
- 41:05Speaker 1: really really concerns me. If the government stays shut down
- 41:12Speaker 1: and these food riots from a start, and the streets
- 41:16Speaker 1: and there is more protesting, more anti people gathering together,
- 41:20Speaker 1: more reasons to be angry at the government, more people
- 41:24Speaker 1: coming out of the streets, it would provide a justification
- 41:26Speaker 1: for martial law. And I think that's what they want.
- 41:29Speaker 1: And it always worried me to a certain extent about
- 41:31Speaker 1: Trump sending in federal authorities into these various cities under
- 41:35Speaker 1: the pretext of enforcing federal law, again, which is justifiable
- 41:39Speaker 1: and a valid use of federal resources and law enforcement
- 41:42Speaker 1: resources because it's federal property and local law enforcement isn't
- 41:45Speaker 1: enforcing state law to protect that property, or the federal
- 41:48Speaker 1: officers who are endeavoring to enforce federal law. But the
- 41:51Speaker 1: presence of them there gives these left winging nut jobs
- 41:54Speaker 1: an excuse to scream about, Yeah, oh my god, martial law.
- 41:57Speaker 1: Look at Donald Trump taking over our cities with the
- 42:00Speaker 1: federal with with with the army. Ah see, you get
- 42:06Speaker 1: used to the concept of them being there, and then
- 42:09Speaker 1: when martial law is actually declared, boy, won't hit the fan.
- 42:13Speaker 1: And social and civil libertarians like myself who believe in
- 42:16Speaker 1: freedom and liberty, you know, come to the cause and say,
- 42:18Speaker 1: you know what, martial laws being declared. They suspended habeas corpus,
- 42:23Speaker 1: giving the federal government the right to lock people up
- 42:25Speaker 1: are something Judge Enteredopolitana talked about just yesterday with regard
- 42:29Speaker 1: to someone's free speech ends up landing in jail over
- 42:31Speaker 1: a comment, a random comment that was taken completely out
- 42:34Speaker 1: of context by law enforcement. Hey, you're not gonna get
- 42:37Speaker 1: your day in court martial laws declared. That's kind of
- 42:40Speaker 1: frightening stuff. So we have in an unstable situation, clearly,
- 42:48Speaker 1: but I do believe there's that legitimate concern looming in
- 42:52Speaker 1: the background over the shutdown, that something like this may
- 42:56Speaker 1: very well come about, and it's worth making a note,
- 43:00Speaker 1: which is the only reason I bring it up. Now,
- 43:01Speaker 1: Do I believe we're right there? I don't want to.
- 43:07Speaker 1: I don't want to, But there's such powerful forces and
- 43:12Speaker 1: money interest globally lining up to seemingly desire exactly that,
- 43:23Speaker 1: and it's a scary circumstance we find ourselves in six fifty,
- 43:29Speaker 1: Mississippi James. If you don't mind holding for a moment,
- 43:31Speaker 1: I'll be happy to take your station six twenty fifty
- 43:34Speaker 1: five KERCIT talk station Happy Thursday five one three, seven,
- 43:37Speaker 1: four nine fifty five hundred, eight hundred eight two three
- 43:39Speaker 1: tall pound FI fifty on AT and T phones, Mississippi James.
- 43:43Speaker 1: Good to hear from you, my friend. Welcome back to
- 43:45Speaker 1: the show.
- 43:46Speaker 7: All right, man, I come in peace, love everybody, and
- 43:49Speaker 7: there's nothing you can do about it. Hey, I've been
- 43:52Speaker 7: sitting here taking my notes, and I jotted down three
- 43:55Speaker 7: things and I try to get through them real quick, yep.
- 43:58Speaker 7: And the first it's being the police chief now aftab
- 44:02Speaker 7: what he's investigating her HIRET This firm or whatever they're doing.
- 44:07Speaker 7: That was a stalling tactic. Yes, you know, to get
- 44:10Speaker 7: past the election. I think we most of.
- 44:13Speaker 1: Us know that.
- 44:14Speaker 7: Yes, because if he's stay in his mayor, he can
- 44:17Speaker 7: shape it anyway he wants to. If he loses mayor,
- 44:21Speaker 7: is not his problem anymore. Go to the next person
- 44:24Speaker 7: what they do with their chief.
- 44:27Speaker 1: All right, clearly, yes, you're right that on Mississippi, James.
- 44:31Speaker 7: And another thing what will deep into right now is classicism.
- 44:36Speaker 7: You know, sometime we bounce into racism, socialism, and classism.
- 44:42Speaker 7: So what we got most people looking at social welfare
- 44:46Speaker 7: and blue collar crime, they do exist, but nobody's paying
- 44:50Speaker 7: attention to corporate welfare and white collar crime, and they
- 44:55Speaker 7: running them up. A white collar crime and the cour
- 45:00Speaker 7: corporate way of fare well.
- 45:03Speaker 1: I will acknowledge corporate welfare in the form of the
- 45:06Speaker 1: United States tax code. There's all kinds of provisions built
- 45:09Speaker 1: in there to help the extraordinarily wealthy corporate folks, uh
- 45:13Speaker 1: with carve outs and exclusions and right off, etc. So
- 45:16Speaker 1: it's built that way. I agree with that all day long.
- 45:19Speaker 1: We facilitated via the tax code, but specifically in so
- 45:22Speaker 1: far as corporate crime is concerned, do you have a
- 45:26Speaker 1: specific illustration or example you want to cite for my listeners,
- 45:29Speaker 1: Because I agree there is a thing on a corporate
- 45:32Speaker 1: level that is criminal, but I don't know that it's
- 45:35Speaker 1: necessarily rampant right now, and I don't necessarily believe that
- 45:38Speaker 1: the powers that be, the US Justice Department is not
- 45:41Speaker 1: looking into it.
- 45:42Speaker 7: But what do you think, James, Well, it's not on
- 45:45Speaker 7: most people radar to common work in person radar right now.
- 45:49Speaker 7: Right the you know, the Defense Department and everybody else
- 45:53Speaker 7: may be looking into it. But we're talking about the
- 45:55Speaker 7: thing is stick right now. You know the lint they say, yeah,
- 46:00Speaker 7: what you call it like a splinter in your finger.
- 46:03Speaker 7: That's the stuff that's happening right now. And that's the
- 46:06Speaker 7: social welfare and the blue collar crimes. They're important, but
- 46:10Speaker 7: they're taking over. For instance, Okay, I did a little
- 46:13Speaker 7: research and back from the eighties, corporation paid to the
- 46:19Speaker 7: average working person was thirty dollars to one. That was
- 46:23Speaker 7: a good balance. The last survey they did of twenty
- 46:27Speaker 7: four it's up to three hundred to one. That's a
- 46:31Speaker 7: big gap. Of CEOs are getting big gap to change
- 46:36Speaker 7: to get up there. Now we know any time the
- 46:40Speaker 7: government guarantees something an insurance, the price triple a quadriple. Yeah,
- 46:46Speaker 7: there's no reason for it. Bay, the government paid for it.
- 46:49Speaker 7: Why not get the most we can get out.
- 46:51Speaker 1: Of you remove market forces from the equation. Yes, you
- 46:54Speaker 1: have a total The word I want to use is
- 46:59Speaker 1: not FCC complyiant. But it definitely definitely mixes or up
- 47:04Speaker 1: causes problems with with with rationality. You know, market forces
- 47:08Speaker 1: will force you know, the price controls and structure. It's
- 47:14Speaker 1: just a practical reality. Government steps in and says you
- 47:17Speaker 1: must pay. This is like rent control. You know, you
- 47:19Speaker 1: cannot charge more than this than rent. The whole system
- 47:22Speaker 1: gets thrown out of whack.
- 47:24Speaker 7: Yeah, and then we go through trying to get it
- 47:27Speaker 7: back in whack. But like I say, right now, yeah,
- 47:32Speaker 7: we're going into uh well deep into classes you know, and.
- 47:37Speaker 1: Why they haven't have not I you know, there is
- 47:42Speaker 1: no way to change that. You know, the poor you
- 47:44Speaker 1: will always have among you believe with Jesus who said
- 47:47Speaker 1: something along those lines. There is always going to be inequity.
- 47:50Speaker 1: There's always going to be differences in people's abilities. It
- 47:54Speaker 1: is built into our DNA. Some people are cognitively impaired.
- 47:58Speaker 1: Maybe we should help them out if you're not cognitively impaired.
- 48:01Speaker 1: I think there's an expectation from a lot of people
- 48:03Speaker 1: that you should at least try to fend for yourself
- 48:05Speaker 1: and put in a hard day's work for pay. You know,
- 48:09Speaker 1: those who can contribute should contribute. I mean, we've gotten
- 48:12Speaker 1: to this ridiculous reality that, oh my god, that person
- 48:15Speaker 1: makes more. That's not fair, And I just call absolute
- 48:18Speaker 1: foul on that. No, it is fair for whatever reason
- 48:22Speaker 1: they were able to accomplish more. And you shouldn't walk
- 48:24Speaker 1: it around being greedy and covetous and envious over it
- 48:27Speaker 1: and create a social structure that's based on redistributing somebody
- 48:30Speaker 1: else's large ass. You know, be happy for other people
- 48:34Speaker 1: who've done well because of them, the whole society works. Look,
- 48:38Speaker 1: they're buying stuff, you know, every time there's rich people
- 48:41Speaker 1: go out and buy something. They're supporting somebody else's job.
- 48:46Speaker 1: You know, I just don't understand how this concept can
- 48:49Speaker 1: take hold, and it's all built on envy. It seems
- 48:54Speaker 1: to me that it's all this socialism and communism is
- 48:57Speaker 1: built on envy and the only people will ultimately benefit
- 49:00Speaker 1: of it. Know, the people who are stirring the pot
- 49:02Speaker 1: of envy and telling you that it's okay for you
- 49:05Speaker 1: to take somebody else's labor via a government program or
- 49:11Speaker 1: directly through the taxation system or whatever. It's not fair.
- 49:15Speaker 1: The rich aren't paying their fair share. Have you ever
- 49:18Speaker 1: been told what is fair? No, it's a constantly moving target.
- 49:29Speaker 1: You know, it's fair that you're born and you get
- 49:31Speaker 1: the freedom and liberty to self control the direction of
- 49:34Speaker 1: your life. That's the beautiful thing about America. Nobody else
- 49:40Speaker 1: has got it. You at least have that option here.
- 49:46Speaker 1: And also remember, and so far as this shutdown is concerned,
- 49:50Speaker 1: and the idea that we might have snap benefits, riots
- 49:53Speaker 1: or something in the street, the government that feeds you
- 49:57Speaker 1: can also starve you. Wrap your head around that. Six
- 50:04Speaker 1: twenty six fifty five K see the talk station. Get
- 50:06Speaker 1: in touch with four in exchange save money. I'll it's
- 50:10Speaker 1: six thirty one fifty five KR see the talk station.
- 50:15Speaker 13: HM.
- 50:17Speaker 1: Interesting comment from my wife before I jump over to
- 50:19Speaker 1: the phones here five one, three, seven, four, nine, fifty
- 50:21Speaker 1: five hundred, eight hundred and eighty two three talk down
- 50:23Speaker 1: five to fifty on AT and T phones. It's coming
- 50:26Speaker 1: up with my twentieth year in radio every morning since
- 50:28Speaker 1: I've been hosting the fifty five kr SEE Morning Show.
- 50:30Speaker 1: Start to show off with Adama the song by Tool
- 50:33Speaker 1: and I always tell people I can't say the words
- 50:35Speaker 1: on the radio, but it's worth reading the song because
- 50:37Speaker 1: although it's just fill with fec non compliant words, they
- 50:43Speaker 1: make a great point. My wife chimed in on that
- 50:47Speaker 1: this morning. Thank you Paulte. You put a smile on
- 50:49Speaker 1: my face. People need to learn to swim. Learn to swim,
- 50:53Speaker 1: Learn to swim, Learn to swim. Corey, welcome to the
- 50:57Speaker 1: morning show. Thanks for calling this morning, and a happy
- 50:59Speaker 1: Thursday to you, sir.
- 51:01Speaker 4: Happy Thursday. Ryan hundred right to learn swim because moms
- 51:05Speaker 4: want to flush all the ways you know. Oh yeah, anyway,
- 51:12Speaker 4: I know. I called them years ago when talked about
- 51:15Speaker 4: civil war. Then I think it's inevitable, and I think
- 51:18Speaker 4: that's the ultimate game plan that they want. They want
- 51:21Speaker 4: a civil war to over three United States. Is the
- 51:23Speaker 4: last Democrats, Liberals. They absolutely despise the United States. They
- 51:29Speaker 4: hate us, to hate me, to hate you for the
- 51:33Speaker 4: god we worship, for the type of car we drive,
- 51:37Speaker 4: for the wanting to own a certain type of gun,
- 51:40Speaker 4: to hate us for all that and they want us
- 51:42Speaker 4: to It is us versus them type thing, and unfortunately,
- 51:47Speaker 4: I think a lot of the rhinos are right in
- 51:50Speaker 4: the step with them. For is this example, about three
- 51:55Speaker 4: weeks ago now, there's a bill introduced in Columbus to
- 51:59Speaker 4: allow members of Congress in Ohio to be able to
- 52:03Speaker 4: steal carry in federal buildings and all government buildings for
- 52:07Speaker 4: their safety, but not ours. We're not allowed that right.
- 52:12Speaker 4: It's for me not the type thing. And that's how
- 52:16Speaker 4: most of the government operates. They every law that hurts somebody,
- 52:21Speaker 4: they have their own carve out where they're exempt from it.
- 52:24Speaker 4: Like the sporting events talk about being able to protect
- 52:28Speaker 4: yourself at Cincinnati for a Bengals game where crimes run
- 52:31Speaker 4: a rampant, you are disarmed if you want to go
- 52:34Speaker 4: to a Bengals game. But if you're a retired cop
- 52:37Speaker 4: or loft duty cop, you're allowed to carry there. But
- 52:41Speaker 4: why can't I carry there even though it is a
- 52:45Speaker 4: taxpayer funded stadium, which should fall under nine six eight,
- 52:49Speaker 4: which logan lincipalities aren't allowed to enact their own gun
- 52:52Speaker 4: control law, but yet they still do it. But they
- 52:55Speaker 4: always have the carve outs for themselves, but not us,
- 52:57Speaker 4: and I think it's all done on purpose the whole city.
- 53:00Speaker 4: So I agree, learn this win as it's all coming
- 53:04Speaker 4: crashing down well.
- 53:05Speaker 1: And gues this is my point about the socialist revolution.
- 53:09Speaker 1: And they keep screaming about, you know, wealth redistribution, whatever
- 53:11Speaker 1: motivates them to get out of the streets and want
- 53:13Speaker 1: to tear down the inherently evil, born of original sin,
- 53:17Speaker 1: racist government of the United States of America. Blah blah
- 53:19Speaker 1: blah blah blah. Fine, what are you going to replace
- 53:22Speaker 1: it with? Where do you think all of this money
- 53:25Speaker 1: comes from that runs the globe? The reason Donald Trump
- 53:29Speaker 1: has leveraged with any given countries because we are so
- 53:32Speaker 1: overwhelmingly economically powerful, we basically motivate and run the planet,
- 53:38Speaker 1: you know. I mean, it's that profound difference between the
- 53:40Speaker 1: United States wealth and the rest of the world. So
- 53:42Speaker 1: they'll use that as an argument to sort of level
- 53:45Speaker 1: things out. What I say is by leveling them out,
- 53:48Speaker 1: you are basically taking away that government meal out of
- 53:52Speaker 1: your mouth. That everybody that depends on government is depending
- 53:55Speaker 1: upon people who are willing to go out and work,
- 53:57Speaker 1: from whom they take taxes and revenue obviously not enough
- 54:01Speaker 1: to fund the whole thing given thirty eight trillion dollars
- 54:03Speaker 1: in the hole we've printed ourselves into. But without motivating
- 54:08Speaker 1: people to work, your whole system of your your theory collapses.
- 54:13Speaker 1: Jamo Ron's I mean, God Almighty, this is what happens
- 54:18Speaker 1: every single time this exercise has been tried in the
- 54:22Speaker 1: course of humanity. Socialism brings laziness. You people out there
- 54:32Speaker 1: that believe that this this whole wealthy distribution thing is
- 54:35Speaker 1: you're angry or envious or whatever's motivating you, look a
- 54:39Speaker 1: step forward after you bring about that reality. Do you
- 54:46Speaker 1: think that I or anybody legitimately is gonna bust their
- 54:51Speaker 1: hump working? No? Why would you if you're not gonna
- 54:59Speaker 1: get at the benefit of that extra effort that you
- 55:02Speaker 1: engage in, which from a meritocracy standpoint, makes you stand
- 55:08Speaker 1: out compared to your peers. Why did that guy get
- 55:13Speaker 1: a raise? Why did that guy get get promoted? Because
- 55:16Speaker 1: he was the guy busting his hump. He was the
- 55:18Speaker 1: one burning them in not oil. He was the one
- 55:20Speaker 1: that come up with the new researches and theories and
- 55:22Speaker 1: ideas and inventions and things that make humanity better or
- 55:25Speaker 1: at least products and services that people have a demand
- 55:29Speaker 1: for because it's going to make their lives easier, or
- 55:31Speaker 1: they figure it's worth spending money on whatever product or
- 55:34Speaker 1: servant is that that smart guy, the guy that busted
- 55:36Speaker 1: his hump created why did he bother creating it because
- 55:39Speaker 1: he knew it was going to le newer to his
- 55:41Speaker 1: benefit or hers the case. Maybe that's what makes society work,
- 55:47Speaker 1: the benefit you get from your extra labor, or if
- 55:50Speaker 1: you choose not to engage in labor, you choose not
- 55:52Speaker 1: to engage in educating yourself, you choose to sit around
- 55:55Speaker 1: on the couch and contemplate your navel all day. I
- 55:58Speaker 1: know what's going to happen. You're gonna get left behind
- 56:02Speaker 1: and you're gonna be angry and envious at some point
- 56:05Speaker 1: that you know you looked at your you looking back
- 56:06Speaker 1: at your life. How did all you ender this place?
- 56:08Speaker 1: It must be because the society is racist or evil
- 56:12Speaker 1: or whatever. That rich person stole it all from me here.
- 56:17Speaker 1: Why is he deserving of that stuff? And well, I
- 56:20Speaker 1: think I know the answer to that. Just look one
- 56:25Speaker 1: step beyond and you will see that it won't work.
- 56:28Speaker 1: It can't work. I wouldn't go to work in a
- 56:31Speaker 1: society that's built on that from each accordion's ability, each
- 56:34Speaker 1: according to his need. Guess what I no longer have ability? Period?
- 56:37Speaker 1: End of story.
- 56:38Speaker 2: I quit.
- 56:38Speaker 1: I'm gonna contemplate my navel. Please feed me six point
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- 57:00Speaker 1: Vicky's got this morning? VICKI, thanks so much for calling.
- 57:02Speaker 1: Welcome to the show.
- 57:04Speaker 14: Hi, Brian, Hey, got to break it down. You're doing great,
- 57:07Speaker 14: but you got to break down a little bit more
- 57:08Speaker 14: so some people can feel it better. Money explain something
- 57:12Speaker 14: to people that operate off the motion instead of logic
- 57:15Speaker 14: and reason. You have to break it down to what
- 57:18Speaker 14: they can feel. Okay, So, if you don't have professional people,
- 57:21Speaker 14: if you don't have people that don't how to do HVAC,
- 57:23Speaker 14: if you don't have or repair clean water to operate,
- 57:27Speaker 14: the water treatment plants, the sewage treatment plants, the electrical grid,
- 57:34Speaker 14: the cyber grids, all these things that make a country
- 57:39Speaker 14: work and operate and produce. Manufacturing things like this that
- 57:44Speaker 14: have some skills, whether the brick layers which are great,
- 57:48Speaker 14: or contractors great, all these plumbing. If you don't have
- 57:52Speaker 14: professionals or electricians, If you don't have professionals that know
- 57:57Speaker 14: how to do these things, you're going to feel it.
- 58:00Speaker 14: You're not going to have warm house or a warm apartment.
- 58:04Speaker 14: You're not going to have you're not gonna have clean water,
- 58:07Speaker 14: You're not going to have sewage removal, You're not water treatment.
- 58:10Speaker 14: Is going to be messed up. Everything is going to
- 58:12Speaker 14: be screwed up and messed up. Everything's going to be
- 58:15Speaker 14: a mess if if you don't have people that are
- 58:19Speaker 14: willing to actually work socialism. I am afraid this time.
- 58:24Speaker 14: Because they got thirty to fifty million extra people here.
- 58:27Speaker 14: The burden is now is breaking the backs of the
- 58:30Speaker 14: people that are paying the system because we don't know
- 58:33Speaker 14: the other ones are not necessarily paying into the system.
- 58:38Speaker 14: Because we don't even know how many people are here,
- 58:39Speaker 14: then we don't have records of it, we don't have
- 58:42Speaker 14: maybe legit records, well they could be fake. ID we
- 58:46Speaker 14: have no clue what all the Biden administration did. So
- 58:49Speaker 14: here you go, and it's what they're trying to overwhelm,
- 58:52Speaker 14: the system and coward, but coward live into.
- 58:58Speaker 11: Right.
- 58:59Speaker 1: Yeah, but the over I mean the system leads about
- 59:01Speaker 1: to the exactly what I was talking about, what you're
- 59:03Speaker 1: elaborating on, which is the collapse of the working society
- 59:06Speaker 1: leading to misery and pain for literally everyone. That's the
- 59:10Speaker 1: next step, that's the one they don't think about while
- 59:12Speaker 1: they're running around screaming about how unfair it is that
- 59:15Speaker 1: you have more than me.
- 59:17Speaker 14: You know that this is not right. Get off your
- 59:21Speaker 14: you know, but and try to contribute a little bit,
- 59:25Speaker 14: doing something something and have some pride in yourself. Used
- 59:31Speaker 14: to be used to be you didn't have if if
- 59:35Speaker 14: if if a man didn't work and his wife had
- 59:38Speaker 14: to work, for instance, I'm just going back away and
- 59:40Speaker 14: before I know there you're talking about Yeah if used
- 59:44Speaker 14: to your dad's here. It used to be that that
- 59:46Speaker 14: was a shame and a sin. Now now it's not.
- 59:49Speaker 14: It's like I don't care and you know, just let
- 59:52Speaker 14: your family go.
- 59:53Speaker 1: Well, that's because the left has breaks down. The Left
- 59:56Speaker 1: has exclude sloth and lethargy by saying it's not your
- 59:59Speaker 1: fault you are lazy and lethargic, it's the fault of society.
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: You've been dealt a bad hand. It's baked into the cake.
- 1:00:06Speaker 1: You are not going to be able to be successful
- 1:00:08Speaker 1: in this world. And there are so many people that
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: have been brought up in an environment where they are
- 1:00:11Speaker 1: told that over and over again as a young person,
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: that it's a pointless exercise to engage. You're merely enabling
- 1:00:18Speaker 1: the whatever system and you're perpetuating this unfairness, So don't bother.
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: It's not worth your effort. And that creates a dependent,
- 1:00:26Speaker 1: that creates an ignorant dependent on society who feels free
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: to be lazy and lethargic and not do anything because
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: he's been told that it's aoka because all you're doing
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: is fighting the man. Six forty six, Mike, hang on
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- 1:00:56Speaker 1: make it a happy Thursday. Anyway, go to the phones.
- 1:00:59Speaker 1: I've got Michael, Mike, thanks so much for holding over
- 1:01:01Speaker 1: the break. Welcome to the show, Hi.
- 1:01:03Speaker 13: Brian, Real quick about the shutdown, the highlight on YouTube
- 1:01:09Speaker 13: of their David It's actually it was CNN was asking
- 1:01:13Speaker 13: the Democrats that some senator they had on why is
- 1:01:17Speaker 13: it when the Republican at this time, when the Republicans
- 1:01:20Speaker 13: are trying to pass the clean cr and they have
- 1:01:24Speaker 13: to control of the House and Senate, the dinnant the
- 1:01:27Speaker 13: Democrats don't want to pass it, it's the Republicans fault.
- 1:01:30Speaker 13: But when it's the other way around, when Biden and
- 1:01:32Speaker 13: Obama was an office and they had control of it,
- 1:01:35Speaker 13: it was the Republican's fault because they didn't want to
- 1:01:37Speaker 13: vote for it, right, And this was CNN saying this,
- 1:01:40Speaker 13: oh yeah, yeah, and they're turning against them.
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: Well, and you know, Mike, I think up until recent
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: a recent moment in time ago in history, they could
- 1:01:49Speaker 1: get away with that argument. First off, mostly because the
- 1:01:52Speaker 1: American people are politically ignorant and refuse to pay attention
- 1:01:55Speaker 1: to the minutia of politics. They just listened to the
- 1:01:58Speaker 1: SoundBite Republicans responsible for shut down, and that's all they'll digest.
- 1:02:02Speaker 1: And so if you have a mainstream media and nobody
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: can deny this. This is not a conspiracy theory. It's
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: just plain old reality that the vast majority of the
- 1:02:09Speaker 1: mainstream traditional media outlets, legacy media they called these days,
- 1:02:13Speaker 1: are in bed with the left. So all your college
- 1:02:17Speaker 1: educated journalists come out with their left wing ideology and
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: they go work for CNN and then they parrot this
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: nonsense and blame Republicans literally for everything. And this is
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: the narrative that creeps out. So even the most ill
- 1:02:28Speaker 1: informed politically people are going to get some messaging out there.
- 1:02:31Speaker 1: It's gonna come in the form of a meme, or
- 1:02:33Speaker 1: it's gonna come in the form of this repeated background
- 1:02:36Speaker 1: news flash that coming up at eleven, you know, Republicans
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: responsible for shutdown. That's all they get. They'll tune into
- 1:02:41Speaker 1: the news program to find out, even though it'll be
- 1:02:43Speaker 1: biased reporting along those lines, but it's just that's what
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: they hear. That's not the case anymore. We're not consuming
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: that crap as much anymore. To a substantially lesser degree.
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: You can go on to multitude of sites and see
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: a multitude of perspective, and you know, if you're willing
- 1:03:02Speaker 1: to pay attention, and sadly not enough people are. But
- 1:03:04Speaker 1: if you're willing to pay attention, you see exactly what
- 1:03:06Speaker 1: you just said, how as it could possibly be when
- 1:03:09Speaker 1: the Democrats are asking for a cr that's clean and
- 1:03:12Speaker 1: the Republicans say no, that it's the Republican's fault, and
- 1:03:14Speaker 1: the exact polar opposite is happening right now, but it's
- 1:03:17Speaker 1: still the Republican's fault. That's a legitimate point to make.
- 1:03:21Speaker 1: But you've got to know your history about shutdowns to
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: even understand that. And who among us has bothered to
- 1:03:26Speaker 1: take the time to look at the history of shutdowns?
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: Who even remembers the last one? Yeah, I know you
- 1:03:32Speaker 1: might remember conceptually that it happened, and it keeps coming
- 1:03:35Speaker 1: up with the news that, oh, this is the coming
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: up on the longest shutdown ever in American history. But
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: are you scarred? Are you still feeling the pain and
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: bruises from the last one? I'm willing to guess no,
- 1:03:48Speaker 1: that none of our lives were perpetually impacted by a
- 1:03:51Speaker 1: temporary pause in the government doing its well at least
- 1:03:55Speaker 1: unnecessary business. Hot another collar this morning. My wife keeps
- 1:04:08Speaker 1: chiming in on it. Thank you, honey, I appreciate it.
- 1:04:11Speaker 1: I feel like I am on a bit of a
- 1:04:13Speaker 1: tear this morning. I don't know. I'm just frustrated to
- 1:04:17Speaker 1: a certain degree. But the last one Color had mentioned
- 1:04:22Speaker 1: the trades and how important they are, and I thought
- 1:04:25Speaker 1: of that she was talking about this. It is yet
- 1:04:27Speaker 1: one more article about the tens of thousands of white
- 1:04:32Speaker 1: collar jobs that are disappearing because of yes, artificial intelligence.
- 1:04:37Speaker 1: Amazon fourteen thousand corporate jobs cut ups cutting. They announced
- 1:04:44Speaker 1: earlier this week they're reducing their workforce by about fourteen
- 1:04:47Speaker 1: thousand positions. Again, these are not the folks delivering your packages,
- 1:04:51Speaker 1: something that AI cannot replace. These are corporate jobs. Target
- 1:04:57Speaker 1: eighteen hundred corporate jobs. Rivian had cut a whole bunch
- 1:05:03Speaker 1: of its workforce as well. On and on it goes
- 1:05:06Speaker 1: because of artificial intelligence. So this is the reality we're
- 1:05:11Speaker 1: having to live with. But if you listen to that
- 1:05:13Speaker 1: caller and you think about jobs that don't artificial intelligence
- 1:05:16Speaker 1: can't create, that's where opportunity lies. That's where even folks
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: that just maybe have a high school education, you can
- 1:05:25Speaker 1: still live, thrive, and survive by pursuing a job that
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: AI cannot replace, and Joe had pointed out while she
- 1:05:40Speaker 1: was talking, there's a South Park episode on that. Yes,
- 1:05:43Speaker 1: there is, magically as if overnight. The wealthiest people in
- 1:05:48Speaker 1: society are your plumbers, your repair people, the folks who
- 1:05:51Speaker 1: know how to replace the or fix the oven door
- 1:05:54Speaker 1: that will not stay shut Congressman Warren Davison after the
- 1:05:58Speaker 1: top of the air news, Well, this shutdown ever, and
- 1:06:00Speaker 1: we'll find out from Congressman davids can at least get
- 1:06:02Speaker 1: his opinion on that. Plus Soto six here a pet
- 1:06:19Speaker 1: you about krs DE talk station after Friday. Welcome back.
- 1:06:24Speaker 1: Always a distinct pleasure to invite Congressman Warren Davidson on
- 1:06:27Speaker 1: the program. I appreciate your willingness to accept that imitation.
- 1:06:29Speaker 1: Congressman Warren Davidson, Welcome back.
- 1:06:32Speaker 6: Always an honor.
- 1:06:33Speaker 1: Nice to talk with you. Brian. All right, so we're
- 1:06:35Speaker 1: still shut down. I know everybody knows that. Can I
- 1:06:38Speaker 1: characterize it this way? Now? The Senate Republicans have voted
- 1:06:42Speaker 1: thirteen times to fund snap. Democrats have voted thirteen times
- 1:06:47Speaker 1: to not fund a snap. Is that a fair way
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: of characterizing the current situation? Congressman Davidson, Yeah, that's have
- 1:06:54Speaker 1: been called and recorded.
- 1:06:56Speaker 6: That's that's the lay of.
- 1:06:57Speaker 7: The land right now.
- 1:06:58Speaker 1: Now, I guess the big question is this blame game
- 1:07:01Speaker 1: keep swirling around. But I am a little disheartened and
- 1:07:04Speaker 1: a little concerned about these widespread posts on social media
- 1:07:08Speaker 1: that you know, the moment Snap gets cut off, there's
- 1:07:09Speaker 1: going to be riots in the streets, and some people
- 1:07:12Speaker 1: are suggesting that's exactly what the Democrats want. They are
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: literally bringing pain to the American people, and I think
- 1:07:19Speaker 1: it's time for us all to collectively reflect on why
- 1:07:21Speaker 1: that pain can be brought about. In other words, we
- 1:07:23Speaker 1: are dependent overwhelmingly so on government, which is a scary
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: place to be. But this is this is the only
- 1:07:31Speaker 1: conclusion I can reach. They want us to be in
- 1:07:34Speaker 1: pain in return for which we have to give them
- 1:07:36Speaker 1: out one to two point five trillion dollars in additional
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: spending so we can what fun to the foe that
- 1:07:41Speaker 1: the faux reality that Obamacare actually works, and also give
- 1:07:45Speaker 1: a lot of help to illegal immigrants in our country.
- 1:07:47Speaker 1: Congressman Davidson, Yeah, I mean that's the strategy. Catherine Clark
- 1:07:52Speaker 1: and others, she's the majority or minority whip, the Democrat
- 1:07:56Speaker 1: whip so one of the leadership positions in the House
- 1:08:00Speaker 1: exactly what she said. You know, we know there'll be suffering,
- 1:08:02Speaker 1: but that's leverage for us. They're counting on the suffering.
- 1:08:06Speaker 1: They're counting on causing pain to my constituents, our friends
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: and neighbors. And you know the fact that they're suffering.
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: They want Republicans to flench first. And look, the reality
- 1:08:17Speaker 1: is a c R is the epitome of the status quo.
- 1:08:21Speaker 1: That's part of the problem. I mean, Democrats are.
- 1:08:23Speaker 7: Fighting for what they want.
- 1:08:24Speaker 6: They want more government, a lot more, one and a
- 1:08:26Speaker 6: half trillion more. They wrote it all out for us,
- 1:08:30Speaker 6: and Republicans in theory at least want less government. Certainly
- 1:08:35Speaker 6: my part of the party does. And until you're sitting
- 1:08:39Speaker 6: here defending the status quo, which essentially no one wants,
- 1:08:42Speaker 6: everyone knows this doesn't really work, but it is sort
- 1:08:45Speaker 6: of a reminder to go. Even some of the things
- 1:08:47Speaker 6: that we don't necessarily, you know, love the way that
- 1:08:51Speaker 6: it works, like snap food stamps. It is a pretty
- 1:08:54Speaker 6: integral part. I mean, people do want their friends, family,
- 1:08:58Speaker 6: neighbors to be able to have a hand in a
- 1:09:00Speaker 6: time of need. We all know the programs should work better,
- 1:09:03Speaker 6: And part of what Republicans did back in the summer
- 1:09:06Speaker 6: was get back to common sense to say, look, yeah,
- 1:09:09Speaker 6: we've got a safety net there, but at some point,
- 1:09:11Speaker 6: if you're able bodied, work in age, and you don't
- 1:09:13Speaker 6: have dependent kids at home, you need to get a job,
- 1:09:16Speaker 6: or go to school or volunteer somewhere. So all those
- 1:09:19Speaker 6: things are now in place. Democrats are mad about that,
- 1:09:23Speaker 6: and that's part of why they're holding the government hostage.
- 1:09:25Speaker 1: Well, and I think the critical words in that statement
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: not to discount anything you just said, which is all
- 1:09:30Speaker 1: just dead right on as far as I'm concerned. In
- 1:09:33Speaker 1: a time of need, these programs are sold upon the
- 1:09:37Speaker 1: altruistic idea that well, government can be there when you
- 1:09:40Speaker 1: are truly in need, but that need is supposed to
- 1:09:43Speaker 1: be temporary once you get on your feet to the
- 1:09:46Speaker 1: extent you're able to, and so that everybody that is
- 1:09:49Speaker 1: incapable of helping themselves out are working or participating in society,
- 1:09:53Speaker 1: we're going to try to tend to those needs. But
- 1:09:54Speaker 1: that's a very very very small slice of the population.
- 1:09:58Speaker 1: The programs have become perpetual, and forever somebody gets on
- 1:10:02Speaker 1: foodstamps and then just says all right, I continue to
- 1:10:04Speaker 1: get foodstamps doesn't do anything to get out of that
- 1:10:06Speaker 1: time of need. So it is a forever thing. That's
- 1:10:10Speaker 1: not what these programs were set up to do, is it.
- 1:10:14Speaker 7: No?
- 1:10:14Speaker 6: Not, well, it's not what they were sold to do. Now, Democrats,
- 1:10:18Speaker 6: they seem to be yeah, this is as designed. They
- 1:10:20Speaker 6: want it that way, and they also want the country
- 1:10:23Speaker 6: flooded with non citizens, and they want them to be
- 1:10:27Speaker 6: on the same kinds of programs that we were designed
- 1:10:29Speaker 6: for Americans. So not only do we have a problem
- 1:10:33Speaker 6: with Medicaid and healthcare going to illegal so they're fighting
- 1:10:37Speaker 6: to get that back, which we turned off. You've got
- 1:10:39Speaker 6: a significant amount of the food stamp assistants going to
- 1:10:43Speaker 6: non citizens. And you know, these people in a lot
- 1:10:47Speaker 6: of cases aren't even supposed to be here, but you're
- 1:10:50Speaker 6: not going to watch kids starve, so they wind up
- 1:10:53Speaker 6: being on some form of federal assistants. And it just
- 1:10:56Speaker 6: highlights the problem that the Democrats are imposing in the
- 1:11:00Speaker 6: country left and right. You go back when Joe Biden
- 1:11:04Speaker 6: was president, on average, we had nearly two hundred thousand
- 1:11:07Speaker 6: illegals coming into the country every month that Joe Biden
- 1:11:11Speaker 6: was president. This is off the charge. I mean, this
- 1:11:14Speaker 6: was not, you know, unanticipated. They promised to do that,
- 1:11:19Speaker 6: then they did it, and they did it in spite
- 1:11:22Speaker 6: of what the law says. They did in spite of
- 1:11:24Speaker 6: what the consequences are for our safety net, whether it's
- 1:11:28Speaker 6: health care, food, assistance, housing. And that's one of the
- 1:11:32Speaker 6: other ones that wire housing is so expensive. Well, you
- 1:11:34Speaker 6: brought about twenty million illegal people into the country. They're
- 1:11:38Speaker 6: going to have to live somewhere. There are a whole
- 1:11:40Speaker 6: lot of other factors there, but that certainly is one
- 1:11:43Speaker 6: of them.
- 1:11:44Speaker 1: And Trump ran on all of this and one popular vote,
- 1:11:47Speaker 1: the electoral college vote across the board, one of the
- 1:11:50Speaker 1: key issues you ran on is exactly the point you're making.
- 1:11:52Speaker 1: And it seems so odd to me. It's impossible from
- 1:11:54Speaker 1: my perspective, for the Democrats to reconcile the position. Were
- 1:11:57Speaker 1: they not the party of the safety net or are
- 1:12:00Speaker 1: they not the champions of the downtrodden. Didn't they implement
- 1:12:02Speaker 1: these programs in order to salvage and save those folks
- 1:12:05Speaker 1: and provide that measure of assistance in time of need.
- 1:12:08Speaker 1: They're the ones that invited the twenty million or so
- 1:12:10Speaker 1: illegal immigrants into the country, which made these programs, got
- 1:12:14Speaker 1: these programs so overwhelmed that they're they're bringing about this
- 1:12:19Speaker 1: sad reality on the very people they purported to represent.
- 1:12:22Speaker 1: After for years and years and years, a lot of
- 1:12:24Speaker 1: those folks then said, wait a second, I don't like
- 1:12:27Speaker 1: these illegal immigrants taking all the resources from my local governments,
- 1:12:31Speaker 1: all the housing and blah blah blah blah blah. That
- 1:12:33Speaker 1: money should be going to me and my downtrodden neighborhoods.
- 1:12:36Speaker 1: So they've created this situation. It's a mess for them.
- 1:12:39Speaker 1: That's I think their biggest problem. They can't reconcile the
- 1:12:42Speaker 1: two sides of their political agenda whatever they're hoping to accomplish.
- 1:12:48Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, and you look at historically working class
- 1:12:51Speaker 6: voters that you know, direct to the Bill Clinton coalition,
- 1:12:54Speaker 6: those were the people that he targeted. And post Obama,
- 1:12:57Speaker 6: you know that movement is said, look, they're holding my wages.
- 1:13:02Speaker 5: Dad.
- 1:13:02Speaker 6: When you bring all these people in, you're cutting off
- 1:13:05Speaker 6: my opportunities in a lot of ways. And if you
- 1:13:08Speaker 6: look at certain industries like cole they've literally you know,
- 1:13:11Speaker 6: promised that well you know it won't be illegal, but
- 1:13:14Speaker 6: you'll go bankrupt, and you know, all these kinds of
- 1:13:17Speaker 6: things are part of why Ohio flipped.
- 1:13:19Speaker 7: You had people.
- 1:13:20Speaker 6: I remember when Tim Ryan was in the House with me,
- 1:13:24Speaker 6: he challenged Nancy Pelosi to be leader of the Democrats
- 1:13:28Speaker 6: in the House because he's like, you can't keep doing
- 1:13:29Speaker 6: these far left crazy things. And when places like Youngstown,
- 1:13:33Speaker 6: Ohio and lo and behold, Ohio is not really much
- 1:13:36Speaker 6: of a swing state anymore. We've become solid red. And
- 1:13:41Speaker 6: I think in a lot of ways, Ohio ands didn't
- 1:13:44Speaker 6: change their views. The parties did. And Donald Trump has
- 1:13:48Speaker 6: grown his majority of the left has just taken over
- 1:13:51Speaker 6: the Democrat Party and they defend things federally in these
- 1:13:56Speaker 6: votes that truly aren't representative of Democrats, even in our district.
- 1:14:00Speaker 6: I mean, it's bipartisan in the eighth district of Ohio
- 1:14:03Speaker 6: to say, you know, men and boys, males shouldn't compete
- 1:14:09Speaker 6: against in sports that were designed to have a women's category.
- 1:14:13Speaker 6: You can't pretend you're a woman and then just go
- 1:14:15Speaker 6: compete or no matter how much surgery or chemicals you
- 1:14:19Speaker 6: put in your body, you're still not a female. And
- 1:14:23Speaker 6: that's part of why we designed them. That's common sense stuff,
- 1:14:26Speaker 6: but and bipartisan here, but not bipartisan when we call
- 1:14:30Speaker 6: the votes. I think eventually they're going.
- 1:14:32Speaker 7: To have to open the government.
- 1:14:34Speaker 6: But in the meantime, I mean, I've laid out a
- 1:14:35Speaker 6: plan for the Speaker and others that you've, of course
- 1:14:38Speaker 6: got the sixty vote rule in the Senate. A lot
- 1:14:40Speaker 6: of people want to blow that up. It would be
- 1:14:42Speaker 6: blown up all the time, though, because the Senate's always
- 1:14:44Speaker 6: got the sixty vote rule. We use reconciliation to pass
- 1:14:48Speaker 6: appropriations back in the summer, and that also allows a
- 1:14:51Speaker 6: simple majority in the Senate. And that really only works
- 1:14:54Speaker 6: if you've got the White House, the House, and the Senate.
- 1:14:57Speaker 6: So I think that's a better way. I just do
- 1:14:58Speaker 6: reconciliation and deem everything we consider essential as Republicans, and
- 1:15:03Speaker 6: you can you can pass it on reconciliation with a
- 1:15:05Speaker 6: simple majority. That would take a little bit of effort,
- 1:15:08Speaker 6: but if the Democrats aren't going to move, we could
- 1:15:11Speaker 6: get on with funding our agenda instead of just defending
- 1:15:15Speaker 6: the status quo with this stupid cer.
- 1:15:17Speaker 1: Well, and you have to be called in from recess
- 1:15:19Speaker 1: to do that. That hasn't yet happened, has it, Congressman Davidson.
- 1:15:23Speaker 6: No, I mean we're having meetings. Unfortunately, some of the
- 1:15:26Speaker 6: meetings that some of our folks are having is the
- 1:15:28Speaker 6: surrender Caucus is forming. This is this is where this
- 1:15:32Speaker 6: is where Speaker Johnson is like, now just stay out
- 1:15:34Speaker 6: of DC because you'll all start trying to, you know,
- 1:15:38Speaker 6: do deals with Democrats to do things that you know
- 1:15:42Speaker 6: undermine the position. And you know, I think we've got
- 1:15:45Speaker 6: a very clear position. There are some Republicans that apparently
- 1:15:49Speaker 6: for the first time ever, want to work with Democrats
- 1:15:52Speaker 6: on Obamacare. How do we make Obamacare better? And you know,
- 1:15:56Speaker 6: Obamacare was designed to cause problems from this healthcare system,
- 1:16:01Speaker 6: so you make it better by getting rid of it.
- 1:16:03Speaker 6: It doesn't work.
- 1:16:04Speaker 11: They know that.
- 1:16:05Speaker 6: Well, it's working the way they designed it to, which
- 1:16:07Speaker 6: is to keep sucking more cash until you effectively have
- 1:16:11Speaker 6: single payer. But it doesn't work to make health care affordable.
- 1:16:16Speaker 6: It's working to implement single payer. So they're bridging it
- 1:16:20Speaker 6: with these are COVID subsidies that overwhelmingly just go straight
- 1:16:24Speaker 6: to the health insurance company, essentially as a bribe to say, hey,
- 1:16:28Speaker 6: if we give you this straight pipe of cash, we
- 1:16:31Speaker 6: hold down premiums a little bit. And you know, it
- 1:16:35Speaker 6: sort of worked in that sense, and now they're saying, oh, well,
- 1:16:38Speaker 6: if you don't give us the money, we're going to
- 1:16:40Speaker 6: raise the premiums again. And well, there never was a
- 1:16:43Speaker 6: big pandemic surge, so they got a huge plus up
- 1:16:47Speaker 6: for expenses that didn't come anywhere near what they were
- 1:16:52Speaker 6: funded at. The pandemic was bad, but it wasn't the
- 1:16:56Speaker 6: kind of thing that we funded. We funded a much
- 1:16:59Speaker 6: worse pandemic than what actually happened.
- 1:17:03Speaker 1: Well, let's bring Congressman Warren Davidson back at seven to sixteen,
- 1:17:06Speaker 1: right now. If you have KERSD talk station, talk station
- 1:17:10Speaker 1: seven nineteen, If if you have KCD talk station, Happy Friday,
- 1:17:13Speaker 1: Eve Thursday, at Congressman Warren Davidson on the phone, real
- 1:17:16Speaker 1: quick here Congresson Davidson on Obamacare. These supplements don't make
- 1:17:21Speaker 1: the premium go away, do they. They just give the
- 1:17:23Speaker 1: impression that the premium has gone away to the people
- 1:17:26Speaker 1: who get the supplement. So, no, I'm not paying one
- 1:17:28Speaker 1: thousand dollars a month for insurance. I'm only paying three
- 1:17:30Speaker 1: hundred dollars a month for insurance. I can handle that.
- 1:17:33Speaker 1: But that other seven hundred dollars has been padded by
- 1:17:35Speaker 1: a supplement is still being paid just the weight of
- 1:17:37Speaker 1: that is being borne by the American taxpayer, as expressed
- 1:17:40Speaker 1: in the form of our national debt.
- 1:17:42Speaker 2: Right, yeah, that's right.
- 1:17:44Speaker 6: I mean it's a transference. It's really no different than
- 1:17:47Speaker 6: forgiving student debt in the sense that you know, it
- 1:17:51Speaker 6: really isn't forgiven. It's just transferring it from the person
- 1:17:54Speaker 6: that owes it to the person to the taxpayers. And
- 1:17:58Speaker 6: that's the problem with Obamacare. And look, if you look
- 1:18:00Speaker 6: at government, it's grown massively and one of the biggest
- 1:18:05Speaker 6: places it's grown is healthcare. I mean, back back in
- 1:18:08Speaker 6: the sixties when Medicaid was was rolled out under the
- 1:18:12Speaker 6: Great Society, healthcare was about six percent of the US economy. Well,
- 1:18:17Speaker 6: people still needed health care back then, but now it's
- 1:18:21Speaker 6: about twenty five percent of the economy. So as we've
- 1:18:25Speaker 6: added more and more government, all its done is inflate.
- 1:18:29Speaker 6: And we add government because well it's expensive. But the
- 1:18:32Speaker 6: more government you put in, the faster the inflation is
- 1:18:36Speaker 6: because that's what causes the inflation. Right, Well, it also
- 1:18:39Speaker 6: causes the person that gets the subsidy then okay, well
- 1:18:42Speaker 6: it's good for you, but the market price has gone
- 1:18:46Speaker 6: up for everybody else.
- 1:18:48Speaker 1: Yeah, but I guess I mean insurance as a concept,
- 1:18:51Speaker 1: the loan will cause people to go to the doctor
- 1:18:53Speaker 1: more often because the perception is that it's not costing anything.
- 1:18:56Speaker 1: You know, well, my insurance company's going to pay for it.
- 1:18:59Speaker 1: Well that's an to go see the doctor perhaps more often,
- 1:19:01Speaker 1: but it's also knowing that they're going to get paid
- 1:19:03Speaker 1: and center for the providers to jack up the prices
- 1:19:06Speaker 1: because the insurance company is going to cover it.
- 1:19:09Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean single payer that will pay any price
- 1:19:14Speaker 6: also fails. I mean it's collapsing our kind of if
- 1:19:16Speaker 6: you look at what's eating the federal budget. You know,
- 1:19:19Speaker 6: just Medicaid and Medicare are a huge, huge thing. Now,
- 1:19:23Speaker 6: we need them, they're considered essential. We certainly want those things,
- 1:19:28Speaker 6: but they haven't been.
- 1:19:28Speaker 7: A good check.
- 1:19:29Speaker 6: And if you look at some of our hospital networks,
- 1:19:31Speaker 6: you know they're getting like seventy five percent of their
- 1:19:33Speaker 6: funding from the federal government of federal dollars with Medicaid,
- 1:19:37Speaker 6: Medicare programs like that, and so the private sector where
- 1:19:43Speaker 6: you know, one hundred and sixty hundred and eighty million
- 1:19:45Speaker 6: Americans get their health insurance through workplace benefit, so overwhelming
- 1:19:51Speaker 6: majority they're getting their healthcare while on payroll in a job.
- 1:19:56Speaker 6: But that portion of the payment is you know, in
- 1:20:00Speaker 6: best case, a third twenty five percent to a third
- 1:20:03Speaker 6: of the payment stream for a hospital network. So there's
- 1:20:06Speaker 6: all kinds of reforms that need to be done really
- 1:20:09Speaker 6: just to protect the function of Medicaid Medicare in the
- 1:20:13Speaker 6: private healthcare economy. Obamacare undermines those things, and instead of
- 1:20:17Speaker 6: dealing with the root issue, we're sitting here propping up
- 1:20:20Speaker 6: a program that clearly didn't work.
- 1:20:26Speaker 1: Wish we could solve the problems of the world just
- 1:20:28Speaker 1: during this conversation Congress from Warren Davidson, it's a million
- 1:20:31Speaker 1: directions I want to go. But on that point, let's
- 1:20:33Speaker 1: move over real quick here, because China, it looks like
- 1:20:35Speaker 1: Donald Trump had some success. He's having great success on
- 1:20:37Speaker 1: his trip to Asia, negotiating some great trade deals. Everyone
- 1:20:41Speaker 1: seems to be pleased, and he even suggested that he
- 1:20:44Speaker 1: had success with Jijinping, tougher federal enforcement, rare earth mineral negotiations.
- 1:20:50Speaker 1: Do you have optimism of the results of this trip,
- 1:20:53Speaker 1: most notably in connection with our relationship with China.
- 1:20:58Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 1:20:59Speaker 6: Look, I mean he went to a lot of other
- 1:21:00Speaker 6: countries before he went to China, and I think this
- 1:21:03Speaker 6: is part of just shoring up the supply chain in
- 1:21:05Speaker 6: a lot of ways de risking our supply chain relationship
- 1:21:09Speaker 6: with China. So it gave him the stronghand to deal
- 1:21:11Speaker 6: with China. And frankly, a lot of people early on
- 1:21:14Speaker 6: they're like, why are we putting taros on all these
- 1:21:16Speaker 6: other countries. Well, China agreed to be a market economy
- 1:21:20Speaker 6: with when they joined the World Trade Organization. You know,
- 1:21:23Speaker 6: it's the main thing that Bill Clinton worked on, and
- 1:21:25Speaker 6: they got launched right around the end of his presidency
- 1:21:28Speaker 6: and started George W. Bush's But China hasn't become a
- 1:21:31Speaker 6: market economy. Their economy has grown a lot, but they've
- 1:21:34Speaker 6: done all kinds of things to shape the market, block
- 1:21:37Speaker 6: access to their own while dumping and subsidizing all over
- 1:21:41Speaker 6: the world. And we've become incredibly dependent upon China, and
- 1:21:44Speaker 6: we even for things like pharmaceuticals, and we saw during
- 1:21:47Speaker 6: COVID just to get critical things, we can't really function
- 1:21:52Speaker 6: while that access to the China market. And that's that's
- 1:21:55Speaker 6: a really important vulnerability. So tried to deal with that
- 1:22:01Speaker 6: with our own countries, like with Canada, with Mexico, with Europeans,
- 1:22:05Speaker 6: with Japan, Korea, you name it to say, yeah, we
- 1:22:09Speaker 6: want a better relationship with you, but you got to
- 1:22:10Speaker 6: help us with China. China's going to do what they
- 1:22:12Speaker 6: said they would do, and I hope we at least
- 1:22:15Speaker 6: move in that direction.
- 1:22:16Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I say we own a Donald Trump, and
- 1:22:20Speaker 1: he has had wild success getting promises and commitments of
- 1:22:23Speaker 1: billions and billions of dollars investment in the United States,
- 1:22:26Speaker 1: most notably in the area of pharmaceutical production. I mean,
- 1:22:29Speaker 1: we learned a lot from COVID was a painful lesson,
- 1:22:31Speaker 1: but our eyes woke up and it's not too late.
- 1:22:34Speaker 1: We can take over manufacturing in this country and bring
- 1:22:37Speaker 1: about a reliable source of pharmaceuticals among other products that
- 1:22:42Speaker 1: we don't have to rely on our arch enemy for.
- 1:22:46Speaker 6: Yeah, and look, I'd rather do business with China than
- 1:22:49Speaker 6: end up truly treating them as an enemy and find
- 1:22:52Speaker 6: a way to get into yet another kind of war,
- 1:22:54Speaker 6: some version of it, a cold war if nothing else.
- 1:22:58Speaker 6: You know, great, but you know, peace through strength, right
- 1:23:01Speaker 6: and right now, we're vulnerable and not strong, and that's important.
- 1:23:05Speaker 6: Whether it's semiconductors, chips, you know my old industry, tooling,
- 1:23:11Speaker 6: you know a lot of these things, dies, molds, castings forgings.
- 1:23:15Speaker 6: You're still dependent upon China in a lot of ways,
- 1:23:17Speaker 6: and a lot of Trump's America First strategy is to
- 1:23:21Speaker 6: make us less vulnerable to those kinds of things. It's
- 1:23:24Speaker 6: a big part of what he's doing with trade, and
- 1:23:26Speaker 6: I just I think this is long overdue and an
- 1:23:29Speaker 6: important trip.
- 1:23:30Speaker 1: Congressman Warren Davidson, Well, thank you for your service to
- 1:23:33Speaker 1: our country, your ongoing service to our country, and your
- 1:23:35Speaker 1: elected capacity, and thanks to your voters for putting you
- 1:23:37Speaker 1: in office. You're a good man. We really appreciate the
- 1:23:40Speaker 1: work that you're doing, and I, of course thoroughly appreciate,
- 1:23:43Speaker 1: along with my listeners, your willingness to come on the
- 1:23:44Speaker 1: program and talk about these important issues. Congressman Davidson until
- 1:23:47Speaker 1: our next conversation, and wish you and your family the
- 1:23:50Speaker 1: best of health and all the success in the world.
- 1:23:54Speaker 6: Yeah, thanks for defending freedom, Brian, God bless you and
- 1:23:56Speaker 6: all your listeners.
- 1:23:57Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. Seven twenty six fifty five KRCD tal
- 1:24:00Speaker 1: Oh Look Covers Station. It's seven thirty one to fifty
- 1:24:04Speaker 1: five KRCD talk station. Try to make it a happy Thursday.
- 1:24:07Speaker 1: If you can get over to the Fort Thomas Military
- 1:24:09Speaker 1: Community History Museum if you hadn't heard of it like me,
- 1:24:12Speaker 1: and I apologize to that. My next guest Deanna bini Key,
- 1:24:16Speaker 1: She's the director of the Fort Thomas Military Community History Museum.
- 1:24:19Speaker 1: She's gonna being an Empower Youth Seminar tonight beginning at
- 1:24:21Speaker 1: seven pm. Log in from home or show up at
- 1:24:23Speaker 1: three hundred Great Oaks Drive for the Empower Youth Seminar's
- 1:24:26Speaker 1: classroom and get a big eye full and history of
- 1:24:30Speaker 1: the World War Two propaganda posters. Welcome to the program, Deana.
- 1:24:33Speaker 1: It's a pleasure to have you on this morning. Well,
- 1:24:37Speaker 1: thank you, uh my apologies. As I mentioned in the
- 1:24:40Speaker 1: intro there the Fort Thomas Military and Community History Museum.
- 1:24:43Speaker 1: I until this morning did not know there was one
- 1:24:45Speaker 1: of those. Can you tell my listeners when this got
- 1:24:47Speaker 1: gone and what people can see there? Before we get
- 1:24:50Speaker 1: to the propaganda posters seminar information, we are a hidden.
- 1:24:55Speaker 15: Gym in Fort Thomas. We're located in Tower Park, which
- 1:24:59Speaker 15: is if you're familiar with Fort Thomas, Tower Park is
- 1:25:03Speaker 15: the park that used to be part of the VA
- 1:25:05Speaker 15: facility during the wartime. The museum was established in a
- 1:25:13Speaker 15: display case in nineteen ninety nine. We moved to our
- 1:25:16Speaker 15: current location in two thousand and nine. We are getting
- 1:25:22Speaker 15: ready to switch out our World War II exhibits. For
- 1:25:25Speaker 15: the past four years, we have had a tribute to
- 1:25:30Speaker 15: the more than two hundred and fifty thousand soldiers who
- 1:25:34Speaker 15: processed through Fort Thomas between November of nineteen forty and
- 1:25:40Speaker 15: June of nineteen forty four.
- 1:25:41Speaker 1: Oh why.
- 1:25:44Speaker 15: Yeah. If you had a family member from Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana,
- 1:25:48Speaker 15: or West Virginia and they went were in the Army
- 1:25:53Speaker 15: or the Army Air Corps, they processed.
- 1:25:56Speaker 1: Through here, that's amazing. See I learned something. I say,
- 1:25:59Speaker 1: I learned something in the if you five Casey Morey, sure,
- 1:26:01Speaker 1: every single day of my life. That is an overwhelming
- 1:26:03Speaker 1: number of folks. Yes, and you said you distinctly said
- 1:26:07Speaker 1: it started with a display case. The exhibit's grown quite
- 1:26:12Speaker 1: a bit since you had a display case, hasn't adenna.
- 1:26:17Speaker 15: Yes, we are up to more than four thousand artifacts.
- 1:26:25Speaker 15: We're about two thirds military and a third community based.
- 1:26:30Speaker 15: For our exhibits. We do have a permanent couple of
- 1:26:34Speaker 15: permanent military rooms, and then we have a Beverly Hills
- 1:26:40Speaker 15: Tribute room. I've about the fire, Yeah, that's and then
- 1:26:46Speaker 15: we have two rooms that rotate depending on what exhibit
- 1:26:51Speaker 15: we choose to put. Next year, those two rooms will
- 1:26:55Speaker 15: be converted from current World War two things to one
- 1:27:00Speaker 15: room will be all about the schools over the years,
- 1:27:04Speaker 15: and one room will be probably decades of businesses with
- 1:27:10Speaker 15: little artifacts from various businesses in.
- 1:27:12Speaker 1: Ten all related to the Fort Thomas community locally, So
- 1:27:16Speaker 1: rotating stock. I guess it's almost like the Smithsonian. They
- 1:27:19Speaker 1: have thousands and thousands of stuff behind the scenes, and
- 1:27:21Speaker 1: you've got to bring it out every once in a
- 1:27:23Speaker 1: while to show people. So a rotating exhibits. The next
- 1:27:25Speaker 1: time you go to the Fort Thomas Military and Community
- 1:27:27Speaker 1: History it may be different than the prior time you've
- 1:27:29Speaker 1: been there. So there's a strong encouragement for folks to
- 1:27:32Speaker 1: keep going back time and time again. Dan, how did
- 1:27:34Speaker 1: you get interested in the World War Two? Since you
- 1:27:36Speaker 1: are doing the World War Two propaganda poster empower you
- 1:27:40Speaker 1: seminar tonight.
- 1:27:42Speaker 15: Well, I've always been interested in World War Two. My
- 1:27:45Speaker 15: father was a veteran of World War Two. He served
- 1:27:49Speaker 15: with Patton's Third Army in the sixth Armored Division, so
- 1:27:53Speaker 15: I have a great respect for anything World War Two.
- 1:27:57Speaker 15: In fact, I was a history was my I've one
- 1:28:00Speaker 15: of my double majors in college. The museum came about
- 1:28:06Speaker 15: because I have curated a couple of exhibits over the years.
- 1:28:12Speaker 15: I am the director now because the previous director had
- 1:28:15Speaker 15: a health emergency and I said, Okay, I'll take over
- 1:28:18Speaker 15: for a year. That was in twenty seventeen and I'm
- 1:28:22Speaker 15: still there. Well, I will do it probably another couple
- 1:28:26Speaker 15: of years because i'll be eighty and I think it's
- 1:28:29Speaker 15: going to be time to retire.
- 1:28:30Speaker 1: Oh shush, You're doing what you love. That's what's keeping
- 1:28:33Speaker 1: you alive. And well, Deanna, let's pause because I want
- 1:28:36Speaker 1: to get I have a couple of pointed questions to
- 1:28:38Speaker 1: ask you about the propaganda posters themselves. Will get help
- 1:28:40Speaker 1: my listeners understand what you're going to be talking about.
- 1:28:43Speaker 1: It's seven thirty five. I want to take a break
- 1:28:44Speaker 1: and bring it right back. It's empower You Talk station
- 1:28:47Speaker 1: tonight tonight, seven pm. Empower Youoamerica dot org. Your register
- 1:28:50Speaker 1: for the class World War two propaganda posters brought to
- 1:28:53Speaker 1: us by the director of the Fort Thomas Military Community Hospital.
- 1:28:56Speaker 1: My guest today, Deana Binnicky. I'm I remember Dan, I apologize.
- 1:29:05Speaker 1: I had asked for a reading on the pronunciation of
- 1:29:08Speaker 1: your last name, and Joe had told me, and I
- 1:29:09Speaker 1: wrote a big I over the top of the EI party.
- 1:29:14Speaker 15: Remember remember Muler.
- 1:29:17Speaker 1: That's right. But I'll remember Dana Binicky first, because I'm
- 1:29:20Speaker 1: going to go over to the Fort Thomas Military and
- 1:29:22Speaker 1: Community History Museum sometime here soon. But the World War
- 1:29:25Speaker 1: Two propaganda posters are rather interesting. I think contextually it's
- 1:29:28Speaker 1: really important that that was the vehicle for our government
- 1:29:32Speaker 1: to communicate to us, because this is really early on
- 1:29:35Speaker 1: in television. Hardly anybody had TVs at this period of time,
- 1:29:39Speaker 1: and there was no Internet, so if you weren't seeing
- 1:29:43Speaker 1: it on the very hard to find televisions, you weren't
- 1:29:46Speaker 1: going to get the message. So they put these propaganda
- 1:29:48Speaker 1: posters up, and they dealt with a whole bunch of
- 1:29:50Speaker 1: different subject matters. That isn't just I want you with
- 1:29:53Speaker 1: Uncle Sam asking you to enlist in the US Army,
- 1:29:55Speaker 1: but it's also you know, encouraging loose slips, saying ships
- 1:29:59Speaker 1: you got Rosie, the that are encouraging work, encouraging people
- 1:30:02Speaker 1: to engage in some measure of belt tightening, because the
- 1:30:05Speaker 1: troops need all the help they can get so it's
- 1:30:10Speaker 1: it's an interesting phenomenon, and these posters are amazing in
- 1:30:12Speaker 1: terms of the artwork they present. Do you have any
- 1:30:15Speaker 1: of them that stand out particularly for you, Deanna?
- 1:30:20Speaker 15: We have two hundred and sixty seven of the from
- 1:30:23Speaker 15: World War One and World War Two. A volunteer from
- 1:30:28Speaker 15: the museum rescued them when the dav was getting ready
- 1:30:31Speaker 15: to throw them away. Oh, and so we have them
- 1:30:36Speaker 15: in stories. There are the ones that I'm going to
- 1:30:40Speaker 15: talk about tonight are ones that we own, except for
- 1:30:46Speaker 15: the I want you you know the Uncle Sam. Yeah,
- 1:30:50Speaker 15: he actually did that poster for World War One and
- 1:30:55Speaker 15: it was revived and reissued for World War Two. Montgomery
- 1:31:00Speaker 15: Flag used himself as the model, and he did several
- 1:31:06Speaker 15: Uncle Sam posters in different poses. I'm going to have
- 1:31:11Speaker 15: that one because I talk about that iconic poster because
- 1:31:14Speaker 15: you still see it. Oh, sure, got format and people
- 1:31:21Speaker 15: recognize that poster more than any other poster. I'm not
- 1:31:27Speaker 15: going to talk about Rosie the River because we don't
- 1:31:29Speaker 15: own that one. I'm not going to talk about the
- 1:31:31Speaker 15: Norman Rockwell for Freedoms because we don't own that. Probably
- 1:31:36Speaker 15: one of my favorites is a war bond poster that
- 1:31:40Speaker 15: shows a little girl probably about two years old, and
- 1:31:48Speaker 15: it simply says to have and to hold and you
- 1:31:51Speaker 15: see this not quite Gerber baby a little bit older
- 1:31:55Speaker 15: than that, and then it says five extra bonds. Another
- 1:32:00Speaker 15: favorite is one of the James flag James Montgomery flag posters,
- 1:32:08Speaker 15: which is not politically correct, and I don't have it
- 1:32:12Speaker 15: up in the exhibit right now because I didn't. We're
- 1:32:16Speaker 15: not there to invite controversy, and it was a time
- 1:32:21Speaker 15: when we designed this. Anyway, it's Uncle Sam rolling up
- 1:32:24Speaker 15: his sleeves and saying, Jap, you're next.
- 1:32:28Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I remember seeing that one before.
- 1:32:31Speaker 15: Which was designed after the victory in Europe. But in
- 1:32:36Speaker 15: a war weary world, we still needed to be motivated
- 1:32:41Speaker 15: to support our troops, and the troops needed to be
- 1:32:44Speaker 15: motivated to go to the Pacific and continue the flight
- 1:32:48Speaker 15: h the fight. So I've got We had an exhibit
- 1:32:56Speaker 15: a few years ago that pulled seventy five posters from
- 1:33:00Speaker 15: World War One and World War Two. They were roughly
- 1:33:03Speaker 15: evenly divided between the two wars, which meant I had
- 1:33:08Speaker 15: about forty close to forty posters for World War Two.
- 1:33:13Speaker 15: I'm only featuring twenty two of those tonight.
- 1:33:16Speaker 1: Well, it's gonna be a lot with just twenty two.
- 1:33:18Speaker 1: There's so much history behind these, you know. And I
- 1:33:21Speaker 1: as we were talking, I went ahead and did an
- 1:33:22Speaker 1: Internet search on propaganda posters the United States. You mentioned
- 1:33:25Speaker 1: sort of the that racist element that might seep through.
- 1:33:28Speaker 1: I mean, we were in the middle of a war,
- 1:33:30Speaker 1: but the depictions of Japanese and that stereotypical glasses, the
- 1:33:35Speaker 1: buck tooth kind of looked that they always depicted them
- 1:33:38Speaker 1: in movies as obviously that perceived as extremely racist, but
- 1:33:41Speaker 1: that image appeared on a lot of World War two
- 1:33:43Speaker 1: posters as well.
- 1:33:44Speaker 15: So it's well, the idea of propaganda is to influence
- 1:33:49Speaker 15: thinking and disseminate information, and the message was we are
- 1:33:59Speaker 15: the good guys and the enemies of the bad guys,
- 1:34:04Speaker 15: and those stereotypes that showed up. I've got a poster
- 1:34:08Speaker 15: that shows an arm holding a knife stabbing through a Bible.
- 1:34:15Speaker 15: The arm on them, like the cufflink is the Nazi
- 1:34:22Speaker 15: slastica holding the knife destroying Christianity. That's one that's quite striking.
- 1:34:30Speaker 1: Yeah, those messages really tend to click, especially when you're
- 1:34:33Speaker 1: in the middle of a war. A war, so we're
- 1:34:35Speaker 1: gonna learn all about this tonight seven pm. I just
- 1:34:39Speaker 1: saw another one open Trap Make Happy jap with that
- 1:34:44Speaker 1: same sort of stereotypical image of a Japanese person talking
- 1:34:48Speaker 1: about like loose lips sink ships. It's an image of
- 1:34:51Speaker 1: him with his ear to a keyhole in a door.
- 1:34:53Speaker 1: So this is just fascinating stuff. It's all on full
- 1:34:56Speaker 1: display tonight, at least a handful of them relative to
- 1:34:59Speaker 1: the entire exhibits numbers, and Deanna's going to do a
- 1:35:02Speaker 1: great job explaining all this to you and walking you
- 1:35:04Speaker 1: through World War two propaganda posters. Dianna bini Key, It's
- 1:35:07Speaker 1: been a real pleasure having you on. Keep up the
- 1:35:09Speaker 1: great work, and thanks for introducing me and a lot
- 1:35:12Speaker 1: of my listeners perhaps to the for Thomas Military Community
- 1:35:15Speaker 1: History Museum, which I'm going to encourage everyone to check
- 1:35:17Speaker 1: out sometime real soon.
- 1:35:19Speaker 15: Well check it out next spring, because we're about to
- 1:35:22Speaker 15: close for this school. We're not open. We're not open
- 1:35:26Speaker 15: in December, January, and February because the weather is a
- 1:35:30Speaker 15: factor fair enough, and that's that's our downtime when we
- 1:35:35Speaker 15: break down exhibits and put new exhibits up.
- 1:35:38Speaker 1: I'm glad I said that out loud because somebody might
- 1:35:41Speaker 1: have shut up next month. Would you have a website
- 1:35:44Speaker 1: just for the museum.
- 1:35:46Speaker 15: Well, the best way to get in touch with me
- 1:35:49Speaker 15: is through our I think there's a website that the
- 1:35:52Speaker 15: city operates because of the city owns the museum. But
- 1:35:57Speaker 15: the best way to arrange a private tour, because we
- 1:35:59Speaker 15: still we'll do private tours between mail and mid December,
- 1:36:05Speaker 15: is Fort Thomas Museum at gmail dot com.
- 1:36:08Speaker 1: Fort Thomas Museum at gmail dot com. That's fantastic. I'm
- 1:36:11Speaker 1: glad you mentioned private tours as well, Deanna. We'll keep
- 1:36:14Speaker 1: up the great work. Don't retire. We need you over
- 1:36:16Speaker 1: there doing all this great history work and taking care
- 1:36:18Speaker 1: of the museum and making Fort Thomas proud. It's been
- 1:36:21Speaker 1: a pleasure having you on. Good luck with a seminar tonight, folks,
- 1:36:23Speaker 1: empower Youamerica dot org. Make sure you register, either show
- 1:36:26Speaker 1: up in person or login from home. It should be
- 1:36:28Speaker 1: really fascinating. Seven fifty three fifty've got KEROCV talk station
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- 1:36:44Speaker 1: veteran police officer, he's retired. He's an outspoken community activist
- 1:36:48Speaker 1: doing help for some youth and trying to impact their
- 1:36:50Speaker 1: lives for the positive. He is on fire when you
- 1:36:53Speaker 1: see him on social media, and I recommend, as I
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- 1:36:58Speaker 1: follow him on Facebook, and you'll get an earful and
- 1:37:01Speaker 1: he does not pull any punches, will get his spleen
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- 1:37:07Speaker 1: we will be focusing largely on police chief. Three Tresea
- 1:37:10Speaker 1: Thigi saw the interesting enquire article for Maaron Glenn and
- 1:37:15Speaker 1: Scott Wartman this morning. City's sidelining of public chief draws
- 1:37:18Speaker 1: blacklash from all sides the even fellow Democrats criticize the
- 1:37:24Speaker 1: decision to place through an administrative leave, calling the situation chaotic.
- 1:37:28Speaker 1: They're saying she's being used as a scapegoat social media
- 1:37:30Speaker 1: posts popping up all over the place. And support a
- 1:37:32Speaker 1: police chief, three Cythigi, which means you're not supporting Mayor
- 1:37:35Speaker 1: aftab Provoll and city Manager Cheryl long. I like how
- 1:37:39Speaker 1: Parvoll passed the buck. He said he did not give.
- 1:37:44Speaker 1: He said he did not decide whether or not to
- 1:37:47Speaker 1: keep Fiji. That was the city manager's sole decision. But
- 1:37:50Speaker 1: he does respect the city manager. So in other words,
- 1:37:52Speaker 1: aftab Parvall agrees with what she did. But the goofy
- 1:37:56Speaker 1: part about this and talked to russ Neville yesterday about
- 1:37:58Speaker 1: this retired since Police Captain russ Neville just happened to
- 1:38:01Speaker 1: be the brother of Police Chief Dji. That the investigation
- 1:38:08Speaker 1: that they're now paying for. The law firm that's bit
- 1:38:11Speaker 1: retained is gonna get forty gram between now and December
- 1:38:13Speaker 1: to conduct an investigation into police treat Chief Diji's work
- 1:38:17Speaker 1: as a police police chief. They didn't say why they
- 1:38:21Speaker 1: put her on administrative leave. They just did. They didn't
- 1:38:25Speaker 1: explain it. Now we're gonna play somebody administraive leave. Shouldn't
- 1:38:28Speaker 1: have a reason like we're pointing to this particular thing
- 1:38:32Speaker 1: or reason she did this which justifies it being placed
- 1:38:34Speaker 1: on paid administrative leave. No, we're gonna put her on
- 1:38:37Speaker 1: administrative leave. Then we're gonna hire a high folute law
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- 1:39:48Speaker 1: like reaching up to high five someone who's not even
- 1:39:51Speaker 1: there when I'm hearing Andrea preaches a gospel there. On
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- 1:40:01Speaker 1: and get people out of trouble. It's welcome back. It's
- 1:40:04Speaker 1: always great to see.
- 1:40:05Speaker 12: You, man, always good, good to see you.
- 1:40:07Speaker 1: And I understand you know you're You're like a thorn
- 1:40:09Speaker 1: in everybody's side lately, aren't you?
- 1:40:11Speaker 5: Right now?
- 1:40:12Speaker 12: Public enemy number one?
- 1:40:14Speaker 1: I don't know about that. Hey, sometimes the truth is
- 1:40:16Speaker 1: hard to take and to the extent you're not aware.
- 1:40:21Speaker 1: Drea is here to talk about, of course, the downtown
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- 1:40:26Speaker 1: thirty years, a distinguished career. He had retired from the
- 1:40:30Speaker 1: force and he's gone on to do a lot of
- 1:40:31Speaker 1: community work and good work he does. But of course,
- 1:40:34Speaker 1: being a part of the system for thirty years, he's
- 1:40:36Speaker 1: got a lot of insight. He remembers what it was
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- 1:40:40Speaker 1: issue five.
- 1:40:41Speaker 7: And you.
- 1:40:44Speaker 1: You've been calling a throwing a flag red card whatever
- 1:40:47Speaker 1: you want to say with regard to police Chief Diji.
- 1:40:49Speaker 1: Now this idea that she is being used as a scapegoat,
- 1:40:54Speaker 1: I'm going to I'll let you address all this. But
- 1:40:56Speaker 1: as I have unfolded it in my mind, and this
- 1:40:59Speaker 1: is where you can feel free to come after me
- 1:41:01Speaker 1: and say, no, Brian, you've got it wrong. She obviously
- 1:41:05Speaker 1: we have crime in this city. Of course we know
- 1:41:07Speaker 1: have to have. Pearl Wall has been in denial about crime,
- 1:41:10Speaker 1: but he finally came to the realization we have some crime.
- 1:41:12Speaker 1: We had this situation with Holly, we had Sarah Heringer's
- 1:41:15Speaker 1: husband getting slaughtered. We got beatdowns, we got brawls, we
- 1:41:18Speaker 1: got gang activity, we got youth activity on government Square,
- 1:41:20Speaker 1: on and on and on and on and on. So
- 1:41:22Speaker 1: at one point, I guess a havetab wakes up and
- 1:41:24Speaker 1: does acknowledge a crime problem. He's got an election to
- 1:41:26Speaker 1: worry about. And lo and behold. Police Chiefdiji gets called
- 1:41:29Speaker 1: back from her meeting with the with the law enforcement
- 1:41:32Speaker 1: officers out of town and they put her on administrative leave.
- 1:41:35Speaker 1: They didn't say why they put her on administrative leave.
- 1:41:40Speaker 1: Did you ever hear a specific reason that was mentioned,
- 1:41:43Speaker 1: like we are doing this for the reasons, for the
- 1:41:45Speaker 1: following reasons.
- 1:41:46Speaker 12: They just did it, correct, They just went off and
- 1:41:49Speaker 12: they just did it okay, And basically from everything that
- 1:41:51Speaker 12: they're trying to compile and put the blame game. But
- 1:41:55Speaker 12: that's why I said, they all are in the same
- 1:41:57Speaker 12: bed together. You can't blame one without.
- 1:42:00Speaker 1: The other, Okay, And this is where we're going to
- 1:42:01Speaker 1: get to what I would like to call like a
- 1:42:03Speaker 1: circuity or a circular firing squad. But Police Thiet, he's
- 1:42:06Speaker 1: been doing her job for a long time. I haven't
- 1:42:08Speaker 1: heard the administration, pearl Ball sharel long or even members
- 1:42:12Speaker 1: or council complain about the work that she has been
- 1:42:15Speaker 1: doing up until all this kind of hit the fan
- 1:42:18Speaker 1: late in the game. Apparently she had an unblemish record.
- 1:42:21Speaker 1: They were all, you know, smiles and handshaky several weeks ago,
- 1:42:24Speaker 1: and you know, they had the support of each other.
- 1:42:27Speaker 1: So then this event happens, and they've retained a law
- 1:42:30Speaker 1: firm out of Columbus, big high flute law firm, you know,
- 1:42:33Speaker 1: four hundred and twenty five dollar an hour lawyers to
- 1:42:35Speaker 1: look into her period of time as police chief, which
- 1:42:40Speaker 1: appears to me for the purposes of maybe finding something
- 1:42:44Speaker 1: they can hang their hat on to blame her and
- 1:42:46Speaker 1: thus justify their putting her on administrative leave or maybe
- 1:42:49Speaker 1: even firing her.
- 1:42:50Speaker 12: Right, I mean, Rian, let's look at it. This whole
- 1:42:53Speaker 12: thing is ridiculous, is shaky. The leaderships has shown that
- 1:42:58Speaker 12: they are completely confused. You don't have somebody that you
- 1:43:03Speaker 12: claim is number one. Aftab is clear, Hey, this is
- 1:43:06Speaker 12: my number one go to been asked several times do
- 1:43:09Speaker 12: you have faith in this chief? He said totally.
- 1:43:13Speaker 14: I do.
- 1:43:14Speaker 12: Chre along the same thing. Everyone has had total faith
- 1:43:18Speaker 12: in Chief Thiji. Now, like I said, I'm not here
- 1:43:21Speaker 12: the bass Chief Thiji and her commitment in years of service.
- 1:43:25Speaker 12: But what I am here to do is get to
- 1:43:27Speaker 12: the truth. In the heart of the matter is that
- 1:43:30Speaker 12: you were part of this entire problem in the situation.
- 1:43:33Speaker 12: But now here's ur Long in the mayor saying hey,
- 1:43:36Speaker 12: we need to come up with something now to get
- 1:43:39Speaker 12: rid of you, and it just shows how terrible this
- 1:43:43Speaker 12: entire process has went. So that's why if you see
- 1:43:46Speaker 12: all my videos, I'm extremely consistent that from the chief,
- 1:43:50Speaker 12: you got to deal with Cheryl Long. You can't deal
- 1:43:52Speaker 12: with chir Long without the mayor. You can't really deal
- 1:43:55Speaker 12: with the mayor without dealing with Iris Rowley. That's why
- 1:43:57Speaker 12: the whole shebang has to go well.
- 1:44:00Speaker 1: And the voters have an opportunity to do just that
- 1:44:02Speaker 1: next Tuesday, or go in today and vote. Voter Board
- 1:44:04Speaker 1: of Elections open. Just check the hours you can vote.
- 1:44:07Speaker 1: You can even vote over the weekend, including on Sunday.
- 1:44:09Speaker 1: They have voting on Sunday. So there's no excuse here
- 1:44:12Speaker 1: other than people just not getting off the butt or
- 1:44:15Speaker 1: voting for.
- 1:44:15Speaker 3: The same thing again.
- 1:44:17Speaker 1: And how dumb might that be?
- 1:44:19Speaker 12: Andre Here we go over and over and over again.
- 1:44:23Speaker 12: But one thing that is interesting. I mean because of course,
- 1:44:27Speaker 12: you know, Corey Bowman is staying, hey, look, let the
- 1:44:30Speaker 12: police do their job. Just let them do their job.
- 1:44:32Speaker 12: And I agree, but you have to be careful and say,
- 1:44:35Speaker 12: what is doing your job? You just can't have a
- 1:44:38Speaker 12: green light to do whatever you want. There still needs
- 1:44:41Speaker 12: to be some focus on community development. There has to
- 1:44:45Speaker 12: be police and community relations, and so you still have
- 1:44:48Speaker 12: to be careful not to just go ahead and give
- 1:44:51Speaker 12: say the fop of green light to say we're going
- 1:44:54Speaker 12: to do whatever we want to in this city of Cincinnati.
- 1:44:57Speaker 10: Yeah.
- 1:44:57Speaker 1: I really haven't heard anybody advocate for that. I think
- 1:45:00Speaker 1: under modern circumstances, when we want the police to do
- 1:45:03Speaker 1: their job, we want them free to enforce the law,
- 1:45:07Speaker 1: Let the legal process do what it's supposed to do.
- 1:45:10Speaker 1: Lock up bad people. Serve as an example to everybody
- 1:45:13Speaker 1: else who might break crime that you two are going
- 1:45:15Speaker 1: to be held accountable for it, and hold people accountable,
- 1:45:17Speaker 1: not reckless policing or pulling over driving while black, or
- 1:45:21Speaker 1: you know, making up pretexts for stops. I'd like to
- 1:45:25Speaker 1: think that that is a thing of the past. I'm
- 1:45:27Speaker 1: smarter than that to know that, yes, it probably still
- 1:45:29Speaker 1: does happen. But letting the police do their job from
- 1:45:32Speaker 1: a best practices standpoint means not taking away money and
- 1:45:36Speaker 1: resources and allocations of you know, maybe getting some rather
- 1:45:41Speaker 1: than police, some community activists to sort of de escalate
- 1:45:46Speaker 1: the situation or something when you really need a cop
- 1:45:48Speaker 1: on the streets.
- 1:45:49Speaker 12: Correct, I mean, Ran, if we're on the same team
- 1:45:51Speaker 12: and you post a block for me, you are my
- 1:45:53Speaker 12: offensive line, and when I get the ball, you completely
- 1:45:56Speaker 12: say I don't care, Andre, I'm gonna let you get sacked, right, Okay,
- 1:46:00Speaker 12: I'm gonna get sacked every single time because you let
- 1:46:03Speaker 12: the defense in. And this is why. If the judges
- 1:46:05Speaker 12: aren't on the same page, the police aren't on the
- 1:46:08Speaker 12: same page, the sheriff isn't on the same page. How
- 1:46:10Speaker 12: we lock them up. Everybody is not on the same page.
- 1:46:13Speaker 12: It doesn't matter. We're going to go through this process
- 1:46:17Speaker 12: even if Corey Bowman is mayor, but we have to
- 1:46:20Speaker 12: sit back and work together to have a winning team
- 1:46:24Speaker 12: and a winning city.
- 1:46:25Speaker 5: All right.
- 1:46:26Speaker 1: In viewing things on that same page context, we go
- 1:46:30Speaker 1: back to Police Chief Tiji. I'm always of the mind
- 1:46:34Speaker 1: that purvol and Long are I won't maybe necessarily say
- 1:46:40Speaker 1: completely defund the police, but there's certainly a reimagine. They
- 1:46:43Speaker 1: are not in favor of tickets. They're not in favor
- 1:46:46Speaker 1: of this accountability that they think society is inherently corrupt
- 1:46:50Speaker 1: or whatever, and anybody out there committing crimes it isn't
- 1:46:52Speaker 1: their fault and somebody else's fault. That's the mentality that
- 1:46:55Speaker 1: I just want to boil down with my perception. Anyway,
- 1:46:58Speaker 1: and if that is in fact the case, they get
- 1:47:00Speaker 1: police Chief Theji in place, they selected her, Cheryl Long
- 1:47:04Speaker 1: hired her. Did they hire her because she shares their
- 1:47:08Speaker 1: perception of law enforcement or did they hire her because
- 1:47:12Speaker 1: they knew she would, even if she doesn't believe in it,
- 1:47:16Speaker 1: would operate the department along the lines of their viewpoint
- 1:47:20Speaker 1: that on their page, as opposed to what might have
- 1:47:22Speaker 1: been Police Chief Thji's own page, had she been given
- 1:47:26Speaker 1: the opportunity to run the department as she saw fit. Okay,
- 1:47:30Speaker 1: so which page are we talking about.
- 1:47:32Speaker 12: Let's deal with the first page, number one. Any employer,
- 1:47:36Speaker 12: any CEO of a company, they're going to interview and
- 1:47:38Speaker 12: make sure you're on the same page with them, right
- 1:47:41Speaker 12: and if you're not, sorry, we see a better candidate.
- 1:47:44Speaker 12: So at the end of the day, you can't get
- 1:47:46Speaker 12: rid of a District five unless a chief of police
- 1:47:50Speaker 12: agrees with you and pushes the agenda and says, you
- 1:47:54Speaker 12: know what, we can get rid of a District five
- 1:47:57Speaker 12: and still have police response time that have not went down.
- 1:48:02Speaker 12: So make that make sense that you got to travel
- 1:48:06Speaker 12: to a complete longer distance and the response times doesn't
- 1:48:09Speaker 12: go down for the citizens of Cincinnati. So yes, Chief
- 1:48:12Speaker 12: Fiji knew exactly what she was getting into because for
- 1:48:16Speaker 12: three years she had nothing negative to say about her
- 1:48:19Speaker 12: bosses or employees. So understand this is what's interesting. You
- 1:48:24Speaker 12: not one time stepped up for your officers. You didn't
- 1:48:27Speaker 12: speak out for your officers, and all the things that
- 1:48:30Speaker 12: were happening in city Hall you agreed to. And now
- 1:48:34Speaker 12: all of a sudden, whoops, they want to fire me.
- 1:48:36Speaker 12: Now guess what aftap you need to go. Everybody now
- 1:48:41Speaker 12: vote for Corey Bowman, this is a dangerous situation because
- 1:48:45Speaker 12: who do you trust, Brother Brian, in this situation, who
- 1:48:48Speaker 12: do you trust?
- 1:48:49Speaker 1: I don't know who to trust because quite honestly, I
- 1:48:52Speaker 1: don't have any information out there to draw any conclusions. Again,
- 1:48:55Speaker 1: she got on administrative leave without any specific item or
- 1:48:58Speaker 1: thing being site. It's a mystery. Was she bending to
- 1:49:03Speaker 1: the will of purvol and Long in spite of what
- 1:49:06Speaker 1: she really wanted to accomplish. You're right, no criticism of
- 1:49:09Speaker 1: the administration from her during the period of time she's
- 1:49:12Speaker 1: been chief, and magically we come to this point where
- 1:49:15Speaker 1: clearly there's a division between the administration and the chief.
- 1:49:19Speaker 1: So I'm missing a whole lot of documents, a whole
- 1:49:22Speaker 1: lot of facts, And that's exactly what I think is
- 1:49:24Speaker 1: going to ultimately come out. Sadly, it's going to come
- 1:49:27Speaker 1: out after the election is over correct?
- 1:49:29Speaker 12: Correct? But who do you believe right now? Even with
- 1:49:32Speaker 12: Sheryl Long saying we have this investigation. I mean, at
- 1:49:35Speaker 12: the end of the day, anything you want to find
- 1:49:37Speaker 12: on anybody, you can no exactly, Okay, the climate assessment
- 1:49:42Speaker 12: is still out there, which is interesting because they never
- 1:49:45Speaker 12: used or presented the climate assessment three years ago when
- 1:49:50Speaker 12: the police department filled it out.
- 1:49:52Speaker 1: Let's pause on that because I want you to enlighten
- 1:49:54Speaker 1: my listeners as to exactly what this climate assessment is
- 1:49:57Speaker 1: all about and what the information is that they might
- 1:49:59Speaker 1: glean from it. That's an important point. More with Andrea
- 1:50:02Speaker 1: Ewing I've had the conversation may deviate over to the Bengals.
- 1:50:06Speaker 1: Andre Ewing and I are discussing perhaps coaching changes for
- 1:50:09Speaker 1: this insane Bengals over the break there, andre Ewing outspoken observer,
- 1:50:13Speaker 1: factual observer, and of course somebody who's willing to put
- 1:50:16Speaker 1: his point of view online and on record and pulls
- 1:50:19Speaker 1: no punches doing it. Andre Ewing Facebook dot com. You're
- 1:50:22Speaker 1: going to join his thousands of followers and check him
- 1:50:25Speaker 1: out every week, and he's offering some great insight. You
- 1:50:28Speaker 1: mentioned the climate assessment. I keep hearing this climate assessment.
- 1:50:32Speaker 1: What is the purpose of that? What does a climate
- 1:50:35Speaker 1: assessment encounter or encompass? Drake?
- 1:50:38Speaker 12: Well, a climate assessment is to test the temperature and
- 1:50:41Speaker 12: the morale of say institution or police department. So in
- 1:50:46Speaker 12: our case, the police department, the city manager wanted to
- 1:50:49Speaker 12: present a climate assessment to see what are the things
- 1:50:53Speaker 12: that are needed to strengths and weaknesses of our police
- 1:50:56Speaker 12: department and what do we think about it? And with
- 1:50:59Speaker 12: that process, there was a test that was taken and
- 1:51:04Speaker 12: ironically it was a lot of negativity that came back
- 1:51:08Speaker 12: from that assessment, but they never released it.
- 1:51:10Speaker 1: What year was this done?
- 1:51:11Speaker 12: This was done right when Thiji was becoming the chief
- 1:51:16Speaker 12: of police.
- 1:51:16Speaker 1: Before the District five decision was made. Correct, Okay, correct?
- 1:51:20Speaker 12: So we talked about right there in that mix when
- 1:51:22Speaker 12: Sheryl Long was going around from district to district asking
- 1:51:26Speaker 12: who do we want to be the chief of police
- 1:51:28Speaker 12: and at the same time started to present the climate
- 1:51:32Speaker 12: assessment for officers to fill out. And I'm telling you
- 1:51:36Speaker 12: they're gonna use that now against Thiji and twist the narrative.
- 1:51:41Speaker 12: And that's why I said, you can't trust anybody now
- 1:51:44Speaker 12: in this particular situation.
- 1:51:46Speaker 1: They took the climate assessment before she was elevated the
- 1:51:48Speaker 1: position of chief. How could they use that climate assessment
- 1:51:51Speaker 1: to evaluate her tenure as chief? Andre Ewing?
- 1:51:55Speaker 8: What the hell?
- 1:51:55Speaker 12: Because it was all in the same window during that process,
- 1:51:59Speaker 12: so all of it was still dealing with leadership and
- 1:52:02Speaker 12: this particular process. So it's still gonna be within the
- 1:52:05Speaker 12: same window and trust me, that's why they got the
- 1:52:08Speaker 12: third party attorney firm looking at everything so Cheryl Long
- 1:52:13Speaker 12: could say, see, it wasn't me. They found all this
- 1:52:17Speaker 12: information that was presented. And that's why I said, when
- 1:52:20Speaker 12: you look at the entire team, I'm gonna stay consistent. Yeah,
- 1:52:25Speaker 12: I'm Counteam of the Mayor, of Sheryl Long, of the chief,
- 1:52:31Speaker 12: and even Iris Rowley.
- 1:52:32Speaker 3: You have a mess.
- 1:52:34Speaker 12: And in this situation, what do you need to do
- 1:52:37Speaker 12: when you have an entire mess clean it up?
- 1:52:40Speaker 1: Well I'm sitting here with my mouth hanging open, Andre,
- 1:52:44Speaker 1: because I don't understand how Cheryl Long. Whatever this law
- 1:52:48Speaker 1: firm finds out, maybe they'll give her a clean bill
- 1:52:49Speaker 1: of health. Maybe they'll say there's all kinds of problems
- 1:52:51Speaker 1: in her background. She doesn't know about anything. I mean,
- 1:52:56Speaker 1: so far, like we started out, the predicate was in
- 1:52:58Speaker 1: these statements out loud of the GM republic work. Everything's great.
- 1:53:02Speaker 1: Are police Chief's doing a great job? Right, So I'm
- 1:53:06Speaker 1: stuck with the idea that they put on administrative leave.
- 1:53:09Speaker 1: I mean to only have a law firm go out
- 1:53:10Speaker 1: and find something and then and like recreate and reinvent
- 1:53:13Speaker 1: the wheel and then present it to share along a
- 1:53:14Speaker 1: shit she can't say, see right, I mean, it's preposterous,
- 1:53:19Speaker 1: And that the idea that she could even get away
- 1:53:21Speaker 1: of saying, see, they found all the stuff that we
- 1:53:23Speaker 1: knew there was something going on, we knew it was wrong. Well,
- 1:53:25Speaker 1: if you knew it was bad, you knew there were problems,
- 1:53:27Speaker 1: why'd you stand up and tell everybody things were great?
- 1:53:29Speaker 12: Exactly? So let's go back to the old school liar, liar,
- 1:53:33Speaker 12: pants on fire. Let's just get down to the roots
- 1:53:36Speaker 12: of how you see the corruption, the nonsense, the backstabbing,
- 1:53:41Speaker 12: the backbiting. It's all in your face now with everything unfolding,
- 1:53:46Speaker 12: when you have chaos inside of administration.
- 1:53:50Speaker 1: Well, and then there's this weird person called Iris Rowley,
- 1:53:54Speaker 1: and that she is. She has a contract with the
- 1:53:57Speaker 1: city for five hundred and some more thousand dollars. I
- 1:53:59Speaker 1: don't know what's slice of it she keeps. I know
- 1:54:01Speaker 1: that she hired her son to do some work on
- 1:54:03Speaker 1: Government Square. I don't know whether he's qualified to do
- 1:54:05Speaker 1: it or not. But she is such an outspoken anti
- 1:54:10Speaker 1: police critic, a demonstrated record of really what I will
- 1:54:15Speaker 1: boil down to a single word, my word subjective observation,
- 1:54:22Speaker 1: just has a disdain for the police.
- 1:54:26Speaker 12: Okay, So let me ask you something. If that's the
- 1:54:28Speaker 12: case and she does go around anti police, she was
- 1:54:33Speaker 12: interfering with arrests, clearly with obstruction. So tell me why
- 1:54:38Speaker 12: in that process she's an advisor for a city hall.
- 1:54:43Speaker 12: The chief and the chief of police never spoke out
- 1:54:46Speaker 12: against her.
- 1:54:47Speaker 1: And her advisory capacity. How much sway and influence does
- 1:54:52Speaker 1: an anti police person have over the police department and
- 1:54:56Speaker 1: the decisions relative to it. I mean, is it possible,
- 1:54:58Speaker 1: And I'm not saying this happen, but would for example,
- 1:55:02Speaker 1: Iris Roley have enough sway and influence over Cheryl Long
- 1:55:05Speaker 1: that Iris Rolli could say, Cheryl Lung, you need to fire,
- 1:55:09Speaker 1: you need to put the trease to Thiji on the
- 1:55:10Speaker 1: administrative leave.
- 1:55:12Speaker 12: Well I don't believe so, because let me tell you why.
- 1:55:15Speaker 12: A part of Fiji getting hired, and this has been
- 1:55:18Speaker 12: public information, was Iris Rowley was sitting on a panel
- 1:55:22Speaker 12: of the selection for the pick of chief of police.
- 1:55:26Speaker 12: Oh my goodness, brother, Brian, here we go again.
- 1:55:30Speaker 1: So look at this.
- 1:55:32Speaker 12: So you have Iris Rolli who was a strong influence
- 1:55:35Speaker 12: on selecting Chief Thiji, the city manager who selected Chief
- 1:55:41Speaker 12: Thiji and the mayor who agreed with it. So at
- 1:55:45Speaker 12: the end of the day, this is why you will
- 1:55:47Speaker 12: hear me stay consistent. The whole team has to go
- 1:55:52Speaker 12: because there's too many problems inside the house.
- 1:55:56Speaker 1: Well teeth except my listeners are curious, would you recommend
- 1:55:59Speaker 1: save going with Corey Bowman, maybe a Steve Good and
- 1:56:02Speaker 1: a Christopher Smith and some of the non current members
- 1:56:05Speaker 1: of council, a new mayor that that would be your advice.
- 1:56:09Speaker 12: That would be my advice. And Corey Bowman would have
- 1:56:12Speaker 12: to surround himself with the proper advisors. Oh yeah, you know,
- 1:56:16Speaker 12: I'm I'm a Biblical man as well. And when you
- 1:56:19Speaker 12: look throughout the Bible, any leader set themselves around strong
- 1:56:25Speaker 12: godly advisors, and especially Daniel, and Daniel would tell the
- 1:56:29Speaker 12: King himself, don't ask me anything that I will not
- 1:56:34Speaker 12: tell you the absolute truth, even if you don't like it.
- 1:56:38Speaker 1: Best leaders surround themselves are the best people, not yes
- 1:56:41Speaker 1: men or women, the best, brightest in any given subject matter.
- 1:56:46Speaker 1: Amens that I can't embrace that concept enough. E twenty
- 1:56:49Speaker 1: seven Right now more with.
- 1:56:50Speaker 2: On Talkstation.
- 1:56:55Speaker 1: Eight thirty one fifty five krc BE Talk Station Right
- 1:57:00Speaker 1: Thomas with Andrea Ewing thirty years as a police officer
- 1:57:04Speaker 1: with the Sinsint Police Department, and he's taken on some
- 1:57:07Speaker 1: community activism roles, and he keeps his eye on the
- 1:57:09Speaker 1: ball when it comes to being observant about what's going
- 1:57:12Speaker 1: on in downtown Cincinnati, most notably within involving the police
- 1:57:15Speaker 1: department and quite often speaking truth to power, rubbing people
- 1:57:19Speaker 1: the wrong way to regardless of the politicals, which side
- 1:57:22Speaker 1: of the political level or direction they come from. But
- 1:57:24Speaker 1: Andre Ewing, I want to go back to District five
- 1:57:28Speaker 1: because you know, if you just look at it, we have,
- 1:57:31Speaker 1: you know, these districts, and you know the police operate
- 1:57:34Speaker 1: out of their districts. Those districts are located in certain neighborhoods.
- 1:57:37Speaker 1: So if you get rid of one of the districts,
- 1:57:40Speaker 1: it just necessarily stands to reason that the officers that
- 1:57:43Speaker 1: eased to go in and out of that district have
- 1:57:46Speaker 1: to report to and go in and out of some
- 1:57:48Speaker 1: other district. Correct. And if the district was in this neighborhood,
- 1:57:53Speaker 1: then that neighborhood is no longer going to have police
- 1:57:56Speaker 1: moving in and out of it because you've closed the
- 1:57:58Speaker 1: district down. Correct response times, I think undeniably just looking
- 1:58:03Speaker 1: at it objectively like that, response times are going to
- 1:58:06Speaker 1: be longer in areas where you no longer have a district.
- 1:58:11Speaker 12: Absolutely, I say to my athletes and even coaches, you
- 1:58:16Speaker 12: have a relay, thats usually four legs, correct, Yeah, take
- 1:58:19Speaker 12: away one leg?
- 1:58:20Speaker 1: Right, what happens. It's gonna take a while.
- 1:58:22Speaker 12: It's gonna take a while.
- 1:58:25Speaker 1: You can see it on paper.
- 1:58:26Speaker 2: Correct.
- 1:58:27Speaker 1: And then since they closed District five, that's become a
- 1:58:29Speaker 1: real lived experience for the officers. And there's been all kinds.
- 1:58:32Speaker 1: I mean, I've hit people on this program talking about, well,
- 1:58:35Speaker 1: it used to only take me five minutes, and now
- 1:58:36Speaker 1: it takes me ten minutes or and you know when
- 1:58:39Speaker 1: seconds count, you know it's gonna minutes. They're gonna really
- 1:58:42Speaker 1: be a big factor in all that. Absolutely, So, recognizing
- 1:58:46Speaker 1: all that, why did they close District five? This is
- 1:58:49Speaker 1: simply a question of money.
- 1:58:51Speaker 12: Point blank. Is let me put money. If it don't
- 1:58:55Speaker 12: make money, it don't make sense. And that's what they
- 1:58:57Speaker 12: try to say. And so this was a part of
- 1:58:59Speaker 12: defunding the police. And so here is District five gets removed.
- 1:59:04Speaker 12: The city say budget has more money to work with,
- 1:59:08Speaker 12: and they have a community starts to buy into it's
- 1:59:13Speaker 12: great that we don't have District five, which was ridiculous
- 1:59:16Speaker 12: because the Community College Hill North Side. Ask them right
- 1:59:22Speaker 12: now how much they miss District five and those units
- 1:59:26Speaker 12: and people in the community have to travel up to
- 1:59:30Speaker 12: District three on Ferguson Avenue and it's the traffic there
- 1:59:34Speaker 12: is already horrific. So it's a disservice to the community.
- 1:59:39Speaker 12: And it shows once again how Sheryl Long has manipulated
- 1:59:44Speaker 12: the system and has the chief that agrees with her
- 1:59:47Speaker 12: to be able to sell this to her officers and
- 1:59:50Speaker 12: to the community.
- 1:59:51Speaker 1: Well, the narrative that we've all been sold over and
- 1:59:54Speaker 1: over and over again that you know, police departments are
- 1:59:56Speaker 1: inherently racist, they give people anxiety. To see an officer
- 2:00:00Speaker 1: in uniform is going to create anxiety for people in
- 2:00:03Speaker 1: any given neighborhood, and that these communities are going to
- 2:00:06Speaker 1: embrace the concept of not having cops driving in and
- 2:00:08Speaker 1: out of the district that used to be there. Is
- 2:00:10Speaker 1: that that's not what the people really believe, is it.
- 2:00:14Speaker 12: That's not what the people believe, not at all, And
- 2:00:17Speaker 12: we need to stop with this false narrative. I mean,
- 2:00:20Speaker 12: because I've been on like I said thirty years and
- 2:00:24Speaker 12: people are glad and happy to see me. My approach
- 2:00:28Speaker 12: has always been approachable, and so people that are victims
- 2:00:32Speaker 12: of crime, they want to be able to have a
- 2:00:36Speaker 12: police district close by that is part of the community.
- 2:00:41Speaker 12: Then this is how you develop community relations because you
- 2:00:45Speaker 12: have a district in the heart of the community, not
- 2:00:49Speaker 12: away from it. It's in the heart, and you bring
- 2:00:51Speaker 12: people to come around, Hey, we have things in our
- 2:00:54Speaker 12: parking lot. We want to do things in the community,
- 2:00:58Speaker 12: and this builds relations and so to remove it out
- 2:01:02Speaker 12: of a community shows a disservice. Children cannot have a relationship,
- 2:01:08Speaker 12: and then you get this negativity towards the police.
- 2:01:10Speaker 1: And then in the more troubled neighborhoods, at least neighborhoods
- 2:01:13Speaker 1: that have a higher crime rate. If let's say one
- 2:01:16Speaker 1: of those neighborhoods happens to be that way, the response
- 2:01:18Speaker 1: times are going to be a lot longer, which means
- 2:01:20Speaker 1: if you call for services and emergency services and a
- 2:01:23Speaker 1: cop doesn't show up for ten minutes because he's driving
- 2:01:25Speaker 1: from the other side of town, that is going to
- 2:01:27Speaker 1: create a negative perception of the police. They don't care
- 2:01:30Speaker 1: about me, they don't care about my neighborhood. They won't
- 2:01:32Speaker 1: show they can't show up on time.
- 2:01:34Speaker 12: Something's wrong here, something's very wrong, and we need to
- 2:01:37Speaker 12: fix it. And then next thing, you know, here we
- 2:01:40Speaker 12: are the mayor says safety is my what do you say,
- 2:01:43Speaker 12: number one, two and three priority?
- 2:01:45Speaker 1: That was yesterday?
- 2:01:46Speaker 12: So how do you do that when you start to
- 2:01:49Speaker 12: remove things that deal with safety?
- 2:01:52Speaker 1: And then there's that pesky problem of the contingent of
- 2:01:55Speaker 1: police officers that we have and it's still way way understaffed.
- 2:01:59Speaker 1: I want to address that with you. Andre Ewing Moore
- 2:02:01Speaker 1: coming out, Don't.
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- 2:02:15Speaker 1: Follow Andrea Ewing on Facebook, learn about the man and
- 2:02:17Speaker 1: listen to this segment. If you're just tuned in you
- 2:02:19Speaker 1: got a podcast fifty five CARC dot com at the
- 2:02:21Speaker 1: entire conversation with Andrea Ewing, thirty year career, a police officer,
- 2:02:25Speaker 1: he's been retired for a while, making a student observations
- 2:02:28Speaker 1: about the current well, we'll say situation. What died to
- 2:02:32Speaker 1: call it a Charlie foxtrot for my military listeners out there,
- 2:02:34Speaker 1: But they had the Police Chiefdji and the whole craziness
- 2:02:37Speaker 1: that's going on. So we built up to this point.
- 2:02:38Speaker 1: We talked about District five and that was one of
- 2:02:40Speaker 1: the initial things that Police Chiefdiji had to do was
- 2:02:43Speaker 1: closed District five. Correct. Correct. And you had one of
- 2:02:46Speaker 1: your friends chime in on that whole climate assessment. I
- 2:02:48Speaker 1: was saying, how can you use an unreleased climate assessment
- 2:02:52Speaker 1: from before she was police chief to evaluate what the
- 2:02:56Speaker 1: police think about her as police chief? But your friend
- 2:02:59Speaker 1: point out that, and it's a worthy point to make.
- 2:03:01Speaker 1: She was high up in the executive decision making branch
- 2:03:05Speaker 1: of the police department at the time. Correct.
- 2:03:08Speaker 12: Correct, And that's accurate. So no climate assessment is reflects leadership,
- 2:03:14Speaker 12: you know, as so to deal with leadership, and THEIJI
- 2:03:17Speaker 12: at the time was number two, executive.
- 2:03:20Speaker 1: Assistant chief, assistant chief.
- 2:03:22Speaker 12: Correct, she was assistant chief, So it still reflected that
- 2:03:25Speaker 12: entire process of what do the police officers think about leadership?
- 2:03:30Speaker 1: Fair Enough, I wanted you to be able to make
- 2:03:32Speaker 1: that point because it had to be on the record
- 2:03:34Speaker 1: to point that out. So there is some value in that,
- 2:03:37Speaker 1: at least in so far as that point in time
- 2:03:39Speaker 1: of how people felt about leadership generally, so we'll see
- 2:03:42Speaker 1: what it says. I guess the biggest problem is nobody's
- 2:03:45Speaker 1: seen it or it hasn't been released in full. Here
- 2:03:47Speaker 1: three years plus after the fact. Now, speaking of being
- 2:03:51Speaker 1: after the fact, Afteb pro Ball has been in office
- 2:03:53Speaker 1: for several years now. At no point in time did
- 2:03:56Speaker 1: I ever hear him talk about law enforcement being a
- 2:04:00Speaker 1: number one priority until just several weeks ago, after all
- 2:04:03Speaker 1: of these problems hit the city and Drew Art. We
- 2:04:06Speaker 1: got national attention for a lot of these. I mean,
- 2:04:09Speaker 1: we're making it an a front page in Fox News
- 2:04:11Speaker 1: and CNN's reporting on it. So it was a bad,
- 2:04:14Speaker 1: bad view or look for the city. Holly getting punched,
- 2:04:17Speaker 1: the riots, the problems with crime in downtown. So it
- 2:04:20Speaker 1: seems that he at least he's finally acknowledged it now.
- 2:04:23Speaker 1: I've seen quotes from him before where he says everything
- 2:04:25Speaker 1: in front of him as mayor starts from him looking
- 2:04:29Speaker 1: at it through a green lens or a climate lens,
- 2:04:33Speaker 1: which I find absolutely batcrap insants since he's the mayor
- 2:04:36Speaker 1: of a comparatively small city in the world. But apparently
- 2:04:40Speaker 1: carbon's emissions was number one for him until recently. And
- 2:04:43Speaker 1: now it's law enforcement number one, number one, number one,
- 2:04:45Speaker 1: and he wants to give you the impression that that's
- 2:04:47Speaker 1: been his focus all along. That being said, the number
- 2:04:51Speaker 1: of police officers when he was sworn in his mayor
- 2:04:56Speaker 1: to today, I know we were down when he was
- 2:05:00Speaker 1: worn in several hundred. Maybe you can put the actual
- 2:05:02Speaker 1: rumbers on it. We're supposed to be at eleven hundred issues.
- 2:05:05Speaker 12: That correct, but you know, with a growing city, you
- 2:05:08Speaker 12: should have way more officers anyway, So when AFTAB came in,
- 2:05:13Speaker 12: and I'm sure Ken Kober can speak on the exact numbers,
- 2:05:17Speaker 12: but the compliment right now we're down about two hundred officers,
- 2:05:20Speaker 12: and there are a lot of officers who are not
- 2:05:22Speaker 12: staying okay, and they're leaving early. They're getting out of
- 2:05:25Speaker 12: the drop program saying look, I don't care about the
- 2:05:28Speaker 12: money anymore. I'm done with this nonsense. I'm going to leave.
- 2:05:32Speaker 12: And so they can't keep an academy, put an academy
- 2:05:36Speaker 12: class quick enough to get those individuals out and to
- 2:05:39Speaker 12: train them for twenty six twenty seven weeks to be
- 2:05:42Speaker 12: ready for the streets and then have to go through
- 2:05:44Speaker 12: an FTO program and go through that process.
- 2:05:47Speaker 1: So they keep up with the.
- 2:05:48Speaker 12: Attrition, they cannot. So clearly the mayor has did a
- 2:05:54Speaker 12: disservice to the community with that, because that's not the case.
- 2:05:57Speaker 1: Well, and that's kind of why I brought it up,
- 2:05:59Speaker 1: is you at least think you want a full contingent
- 2:06:02Speaker 1: of police officers. Lateral hires have always been a possibility.
- 2:06:07Speaker 1: And the of course people's perception of the police department
- 2:06:10Speaker 1: went down because the defund police and Black Lives Matter
- 2:06:12Speaker 1: and all the other organizations out there screaming about how
- 2:06:14Speaker 1: much police suck. It's hard to get people to even
- 2:06:17Speaker 1: get into the field of law enforcement. I mean, do
- 2:06:20Speaker 1: you want a frozen bottle of water chucked at you?
- 2:06:22Speaker 1: Do you want to incendia a firework thrown at you?
- 2:06:24Speaker 1: Do you want to be demonized and ridiculed and kyled
- 2:06:26Speaker 1: a racist every single day? Do you want to be
- 2:06:28Speaker 1: spit on when you're walking to work in your uniform?
- 2:06:30Speaker 1: That's all real stuff, real. But if we could get
- 2:06:34Speaker 1: lateral hires, and that's always been a theoretical possibility, why
- 2:06:38Speaker 1: are we only now just talking about it. Why wasn't
- 2:06:40Speaker 1: this being worked on from day one? Provole administration start
- 2:06:44Speaker 1: working hard to increase the compliment. Not just remain status quo,
- 2:06:48Speaker 1: but increase the compliment. So these officers aren't working their
- 2:06:51Speaker 1: fingers to the bone with overtime hours that they don't
- 2:06:53Speaker 1: even want to do.
- 2:06:54Speaker 12: Well, let me tell you what's interesting is that officers
- 2:06:58Speaker 12: now don't want to come to Cincinnati. The laterals. They
- 2:07:01Speaker 12: don't want to come to Cincinnati. So you have these
- 2:07:04Speaker 12: surrounding areas. Blue Ash now has a high financial rate
- 2:07:10Speaker 12: for police officers. You have the surrounding North College Hills
- 2:07:13Speaker 12: and Springdale's. They have now come up to match Cincinnati's payroll.
- 2:07:18Speaker 12: And so if it was about money, they will go
- 2:07:20Speaker 12: to these other areas and deal with less headache. And
- 2:07:24Speaker 12: so why would you want to do a lateral and
- 2:07:27Speaker 12: come here. So what used to happen is those officers
- 2:07:30Speaker 12: that were in the Blue Ashes and say Elmwood's or
- 2:07:33Speaker 12: different jurisdictions would come to Cincinnati now for the money.
- 2:07:38Speaker 12: Now guess what they don't have to They can stay
- 2:07:41Speaker 12: where they are and.
- 2:07:42Speaker 1: Deal with less because it isn't just Cincinnati struggling with
- 2:07:47Speaker 1: officer Attrician. This concept of ill will hatred, poor perception
- 2:07:52Speaker 1: the police, this labeling of them as all inherently system
- 2:07:55Speaker 1: systemically racist is pretty much everywhere it usually is.
- 2:07:59Speaker 5: Right.
- 2:08:00Speaker 12: Competition is a competition exactly. But I've seen some areas
- 2:08:04Speaker 12: that are thriving because of the chief that they have
- 2:08:07Speaker 12: in place. And I'll say that leadership matters if you
- 2:08:12Speaker 12: get a community that understands policing, that wants their community
- 2:08:16Speaker 12: to have a relationship. Look at those cities and look
- 2:08:20Speaker 12: at those chiefs and see how they're thriving.
- 2:08:23Speaker 1: One more with Andrea Yuing. I'm enjoying this, Andre, and
- 2:08:25Speaker 1: I appreciate your willingness to spend the whole hour with
- 2:08:27Speaker 1: my audience. I mean, this has been really interesting. Eight
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- 2:08:36Speaker 1: Nine fifty five CACD talk station, talking about all the
- 2:08:40Speaker 1: problems going on the city of since Hey, not sure
- 2:08:41Speaker 1: if we're finding any solutions. With Andrea Ewing, thirty year
- 2:08:45Speaker 1: career law enforcement officer has been retired, but he is
- 2:08:47Speaker 1: still helping out the community in many big ways. I
- 2:08:49Speaker 1: encourage you to follow and see what he has to
- 2:08:50Speaker 1: say every week on at Andre Ewing on Facebook Andre Ewing.
- 2:08:54Speaker 1: You get a big kick out of it, and he
- 2:08:56Speaker 1: definitely does not pull any punches like the Morning show
- 2:08:59Speaker 1: this morning, Andrea, I kind of asking seems to me
- 2:09:01Speaker 1: that the political reality of this police chief appointment goes
- 2:09:05Speaker 1: squarely back to Issue five, which was taking away the
- 2:09:11Speaker 1: police department the union member's right to select the chief.
- 2:09:15Speaker 1: We go all the way back to Tom Striker days,
- 2:09:17Speaker 1: which gave Tom Striker protections under the collective bargaining contract
- 2:09:21Speaker 1: which prevented him from ever getting fired. So I get
- 2:09:24Speaker 1: the problem. Say what you want about Striker, good or bad,
- 2:09:26Speaker 1: but you see what the problem is. It's created by that.
- 2:09:29Speaker 1: Everybody gets it. Hence Issue five, which put complete control
- 2:09:32Speaker 1: in the hands of the city manager and presumably the
- 2:09:34Speaker 1: mayor in one person basically or two selecting the chief. Obviously,
- 2:09:41Speaker 1: that makes it political. I mean, we've been kind of
- 2:09:42Speaker 1: talking about the political nature of it with Chief Tiji,
- 2:09:45Speaker 1: But we have this interim police chief who also maybe
- 2:09:49Speaker 1: suggested in issuing a citation when the police officers on
- 2:09:53Speaker 1: the street said there was no basis for a citation.
- 2:09:56Speaker 1: Of course, I'm talking about that light slap that the
- 2:09:58Speaker 1: guy that ultimately got the crappy that of them in
- 2:10:01Speaker 1: late July. That suggests maybe he is perhaps a yes Man,
- 2:10:06Speaker 1: he's politically connected. I don't know, but it suggests that.
- 2:10:09Speaker 1: But the only reason I unfold it that way is
- 2:10:11Speaker 1: because Christopher Smithman and others have said, listen, what we
- 2:10:14Speaker 1: need to do is get counsel involved in the hiring
- 2:10:17Speaker 1: and firing. I think Christopher said, unanimous represent unanimous council consent,
- 2:10:22Speaker 1: or maybe at least a super majority seven out of nine.
- 2:10:26Speaker 1: Would that be a better place to be? Is it
- 2:10:28Speaker 1: possible for us to move in that direction with things
- 2:10:30Speaker 1: get better? At least as far as you see it, Yes.
- 2:10:33Speaker 12: I agree with that at least the total council or
- 2:10:37Speaker 12: at least are seven out of the nine, because that way,
- 2:10:40Speaker 12: one person doesn't have the total power, or even say
- 2:10:44Speaker 12: two the mayor of the city manager, because how is
- 2:10:47Speaker 12: that going to be an unbiased process if you don't
- 2:10:50Speaker 12: have others involved, and things can become personal, and that's
- 2:10:54Speaker 12: what it seems like. Now you have a personal fight
- 2:10:57Speaker 12: between the chief, the city manager and the mayor. So
- 2:11:02Speaker 12: at what point do you have others to be able
- 2:11:04Speaker 12: to chime in and say, we need all the information,
- 2:11:07Speaker 12: all the evidence, and if counsel does not totally agree,
- 2:11:11Speaker 12: then we will stick by counsel's decision. But if counsel
- 2:11:15Speaker 12: overwhelmingly agrees, then we know that there was just cause
- 2:11:19Speaker 12: in the process.
- 2:11:20Speaker 1: Right, Okay, And going back to my original perception, which
- 2:11:24Speaker 1: was either the chief, in spite of her desires and
- 2:11:30Speaker 1: what she would do in the role as chief, bowed
- 2:11:33Speaker 1: to the will of the manager or purvol and did
- 2:11:35Speaker 1: things their way. That's one thing. So ultimately then she's
- 2:11:39Speaker 1: let go because she went in the direction the administration
- 2:11:42Speaker 1: was or she agreed with them and ran the police
- 2:11:49Speaker 1: department consistently with what they wanted. Hence there was no
- 2:11:52Speaker 1: criticism of the administration by Thiji and no criticism of
- 2:11:56Speaker 1: Fiji by the administration.
- 2:11:58Speaker 5: Correct.
- 2:11:58Speaker 1: One person has the ability to hire and fire. So
- 2:12:02Speaker 1: going back to my theory, one is likely I would
- 2:12:07Speaker 1: argue to bow and capitulate in spite of what you
- 2:12:10Speaker 1: believe to be a better way to do things if
- 2:12:12Speaker 1: your job is on the line based upon the potential
- 2:12:15Speaker 1: whim of a single human being.
- 2:12:18Speaker 12: Hey, let me tell you something. What I would have
- 2:12:20Speaker 12: loved to sing I love to see a chief coming
- 2:12:23Speaker 12: to this city, even be interviewed and chief theeds. You
- 2:12:27Speaker 12: would have sat back and said, you know what, I
- 2:12:29Speaker 12: cannot agree to this type of leadership. I will not
- 2:12:33Speaker 12: put my officers on the line. What I'm going to
- 2:12:36Speaker 12: do is step down from this position because I will
- 2:12:40Speaker 12: not be a puppet. You don't get into a rhythm
- 2:12:44Speaker 12: with the mayor and city manager and say yes, I'll
- 2:12:47Speaker 12: do everything you ask completely, and nobody talks against each
- 2:12:52Speaker 12: other until she's let go. And so if she would
- 2:12:55Speaker 12: have stood her ground, had the integrity to say I
- 2:12:59Speaker 12: can't follow what you're asking me to do, I see
- 2:13:01Speaker 12: it a better way and step down. This way, if
- 2:13:05Speaker 12: no chief comes into Cincinnati to be hired and say
- 2:13:09Speaker 12: I can't follow your rule, city manager or mayor, this
- 2:13:12Speaker 12: is unrealistic to police properly and to do it safely,
- 2:13:17Speaker 12: and step down, they will change it unless somebody else
- 2:13:20Speaker 12: will sell their soul and just do anything for the power,
- 2:13:25Speaker 12: but not for the purpose.
- 2:13:26Speaker 1: Power not purpose. I under you always fascinating. I always
- 2:13:30Speaker 1: appreciate your thoughts, your well to the point commentary. It's
- 2:13:35Speaker 1: just wonderful and refreshing to have you on the program.
- 2:13:37Speaker 1: And I'm gonna keep watching you and following you on Facebook.
- 2:13:39Speaker 1: Like I said, follow them on Facebook Andre you and
- 2:13:41Speaker 1: can get a kick out of it. That minimum good
- 2:13:43Speaker 1: to see you again and thanks for making a trip in.
- 2:13:45Speaker 1: It's always a real pleasure to being able to talk
- 2:13:46Speaker 1: to someone face to face.
- 2:13:47Speaker 12: Absolutely, And I got some breast cancer wearing his pens
- 2:13:51Speaker 12: for I'll give them to you and shout out to
- 2:13:53Speaker 12: my wife and she's going to be presented with something
- 2:13:56Speaker 12: today on Channel twelve. So just excited about that. For
- 2:14:00Speaker 12: breast cancer awareness and all those survivors out there and
- 2:14:03Speaker 12: those families, we love you and keep fighting.
- 2:14:06Speaker 1: Amen. We all can agree on one thing for certain.
- 2:14:09Speaker 1: In this politically divided world we live in. Everybody knows
- 2:14:13Speaker 1: cancer sucks. Yes, Andre youwan, we'll have you on again,
- 2:14:16Speaker 1: I hope. So, man, it's always enjoyable. Appreciate you, and
- 2:14:19Speaker 1: appreciate all the folks chiming in. You're getting a lot
- 2:14:21Speaker 1: of pat on the backs from Facebook messages and from
- 2:14:23Speaker 1: instant the messages I'm getting on my phone, and it's
- 2:14:26Speaker 1: a good, good, good thing to have you here, brother,