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Mac & Bone Hour 3: Panthers Faith · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, oh, oh, it's Mac and Bo on your radio, baby.
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  Speaker 1: This is my friend Matt.
• 0:09
  Speaker 2: Posh, come on, Posh.
• 0:11
  Speaker 1: This is my friend T-Bone.
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  Speaker 2: Let's have some fun.
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: I can't go to work without listening to Mac and Bone.
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  Speaker 2: Do it live.
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  Speaker 3: Every week seems like good milestones, good progression. I can't
• 0:37
  Speaker 3: tell you exactly how close that is, how far that is,
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  Speaker 3: but I know that he's trending in the right direction,
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  Speaker 3: getting into some more individual drills where he can start
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  Speaker 3: to really load and anchor and do all those things.
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  Speaker 3: But it's got to get to a point where we
• 0:51
  Speaker 3: feel really comfortable about sending somebody at him full speed
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  Speaker 3: and do all that. We're not quite there yet, so
• 0:57
  Speaker 3: I can't really tell you specifically.
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  Speaker 4: That is Dave Canales being asked about Icky. That is
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  Speaker 4: not a, I don't want to act like it's bad news,
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  Speaker 4: like he's progressing bone, but the rate at which he
• 1:12
  Speaker 4: is progressing, maybe not as fast as we would like
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  Speaker 4: with the state of the tackle position. Now that Timo
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  Speaker 4: is out, the way Rasheed Walker has been playing lately,
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  Speaker 4: but that's it. So it's kind of a non-update and
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  Speaker 4: it doesn't It doesn't give us any indication, Bone.
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  Speaker 2: It's not optimistic. I'll say that.
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  Speaker 5: No, for a guy that we thought, hey, beginning of
• 1:32
  Speaker 5: the year, where could he fit in here?
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  Speaker 2: But now... I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I don't really know if I'm counting much on Nicky
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  Speaker 5: Mack throughout this season. I don't know if the moment
• 1:41
  Speaker 5: injury changes anything, but I don't know. I just don't
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  Speaker 5: know if that's something to really count on, to be honest. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I keep feeling like that, too. I agree with you.
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  Speaker 5: A couple of things. Also, if he gets anywhere near Walker,
• 1:53
  Speaker 5: he might get hurt.
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  Speaker 4: So a couple of things here, Bone, that I am
• 2:01
  Speaker 4: wanting to tell you is coming up. There's some things
• 2:04
  Speaker 4: that y'all are asking for here. One is what the bleep.
• 2:07
  Speaker 4: Multiple fans said, hey, where are the what the bleep stories,
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  Speaker 4: the messed up stories we can make fun of and
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  Speaker 4: laugh at? It was the Panther talk. The Florida Panther talk.
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  Speaker 4: That's coming up at 845. We did some shuffling. Buckner
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  Speaker 4: went into the what the bleep slot. I didn't want
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  Speaker 4: to go through to 7 o'clock hour without Hornets talk
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  Speaker 4: after the win and stuff. So anyway, 845 for what
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  Speaker 4: the bleep coming up. And there is a youth sports
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  Speaker 4: story that I must what the bleep. It is unbelievable.
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  Speaker 5: But anyway, also, there's a great chance a well-known Florida man,
• 2:36
  Speaker 5: Ric Flair, appears. It's been a minute. It's been a
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  Speaker 5: minute for Ric Flair. He's in here for two different things.
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  Speaker 4: Also being asked, Bone, by a few people who have
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  Speaker 4: sent the link to us and said, are you guys
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  Speaker 4: going to address this? It is Chris Sims, who was
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  Speaker 4: upset last week. The Panthers made a video trolling his
• 2:58
  Speaker 4: pick of the Eagles over the Panthers. He has responded,
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  Speaker 4: and all of a sudden he's a lot tougher this week, Bone.
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  Speaker 4: He is mocking the Panthers. We will play that audio
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  Speaker 4: coming up here in the next 20 minutes.
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  Speaker 5: That's what I get for saying last week I felt
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  Speaker 5: a little bit bad about all the spleen jokes.
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  Speaker 2: It's free gaming.
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  Speaker 5: Game on! I tried to help bridge the gap here,
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  Speaker 5: but now I know what this is all about.
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  Speaker 4: So I've got news for you. You will be triggered
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  Speaker 4: in the next 20 minutes because we will play that
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  Speaker 4: clip and it will make you mad. The way he
• 3:29
  Speaker 4: acted last week and the way he's acting this week,
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  Speaker 4: it'll make you mad. But let's have the conversation, Bone,
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  Speaker 4: about coaches and Dan Morgan.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of criticism.
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  Speaker 4: Heck, we've had our criticisms for the coaches over the
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  Speaker 4: last couple of days.
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  Speaker 2: The trend.
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  Speaker 4: I think someone was quoting Smoke Ludwig and said, Canales
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  Speaker 4: has five 20-point losses in his career. Matt Rule had zero.
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  Speaker 4: Smoke was saying that yesterday. So clearly bring back Matt Rule.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's the answer. But how much, Boney... is
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  Speaker 4: your trust in canalis or any of the coaches of
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  Speaker 4: arrow i'm sure his name will come up or dan
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  Speaker 4: morgan i've seen some people say hey look at the
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  Speaker 4: way rashid walker's played or you know um uh you
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  Speaker 4: know look at dan dan morgan hasn't done anything to
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  Speaker 4: address the corner spot since the injuries like do you
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  Speaker 4: have you lost you find yourself questioning any of the
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  Speaker 4: coaches or dan morgan any more than you did last
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  Speaker 4: week or or.
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  Speaker 5: No Probably a wee bit more on the coaches more
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  Speaker 5: so than Dan Morgan. We were just saying a week
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  Speaker 5: ago how high level the rookie class could be for him.
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  Speaker 2: We were talking about Will.
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  Speaker 5: Lee's job against Philadelphia, Wheatley's grades being high. We have
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  Speaker 5: not seen Brazel or Hecht yet. to judge them, but
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  Speaker 5: you've got Freeling we think is going to be really productive.
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  Speaker 5: This could be a really good draft class, and this
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  Speaker 5: past week doesn't change that for me. Obviously, Walker has
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  Speaker 5: been a problem, but also he drafted Freeling, who's right
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  Speaker 5: there to maybe potentially just take right over that spot,
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  Speaker 5: but then, of course, the Tebow thing happened. But I
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  Speaker 5: don't really put a lot of this right now on
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  Speaker 5: Dan Morgan. I think that there's definitely some coaching stuff
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  Speaker 5: going on there, but I put more on that than
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  Speaker 5: Dan Morgan.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I kind of do as well. It's hard not to.
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  Speaker 4: And again, I don't want to make the big swing
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  Speaker 4: from one week to the next, although Brinson Buckner did
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  Speaker 4: accuse me, Bone. uh, earlier in the show of trying
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  Speaker 4: to lead the parade one week and lead the funeral.
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  Speaker 2: You are a busy man.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want everybody to think funeral max running a
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  Speaker 4: funeral here. Like I don't want people to feel that way.
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  Speaker 4: Like I do still believe we're going to win the division.
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  Speaker 4: With that said, it's hard not to hear that stat
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  Speaker 4: that Smoke was given yesterday about Canales losing five 20-point games.
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  Speaker 4: It's hard not to hear the stat from Mike K
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  Speaker 4: about we have given up 12 200-yard.
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  Speaker 2: Rushing games, Bone, in the last three years.
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  Speaker 4: It's hard not to at least question why the heck
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  Speaker 4: does Dave Canales and the staff at times have us
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  Speaker 4: so ill-prepared to play football games that we get embarrassed?
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  Speaker 4: And then the Avero thing, too, is how is the
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  Speaker 4: run defense still having this level of problems two years
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  Speaker 4: after the debacle of 2024?
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  Speaker 2: How can you not at least ask those questions? No,
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  Speaker 2: it's perfectly fine questions.
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  Speaker 6: Look.
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  Speaker 5: There has to be some question somewhere when you get
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  Speaker 5: beat at home by the margins of victory you have.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not saying the full Bears game was bad. It
• 6:35
  Speaker 5: was a half that got away. But when you give
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  Speaker 5: up 59 and then 40 plus both games at home,
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  Speaker 5: we can't sit here and say we have no question
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  Speaker 5: about anybody. Obviously, there's a lot of questions about why
• 6:48
  Speaker 5: when they're bad, they're that bad, right? It feels like
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  Speaker 5: when they have bad days, man, do they have some
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  Speaker 5: really bad days.
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  Speaker 6: It is.
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  Speaker 4: And that has to be concerning. You said it earlier, like, again,
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  Speaker 4: I still believe. although the Timo injury hurts, right? But
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  Speaker 4: I still believe we're the best in the South. Matter
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  Speaker 4: of fact, the odds, I was looking at playoffstatus.com, Bone,
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  Speaker 4: the stat that has all the playoff odds and stuff
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  Speaker 4: like that. The Panthers still have a 50% chance of
• 7:19
  Speaker 4: the playoffs and Atlanta has a 45% chance. So it's
• 7:23
  Speaker 4: still a slight edge to the Panthers having a better chance.
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  Speaker 4: So I still believe that's the case, but it's getting
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  Speaker 4: a little scary.
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  Speaker 5: I will say that. They play the last game, right?
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  Speaker 5: Is that true? Oh, are they final game?
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  Speaker 2: Ooh, doggy. I think that's the last game of the year, right?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't realize that. Very well.
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  Speaker 5: The way these teams are up and down, up and down,
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  Speaker 5: up and down. It very well could come down. I'll
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  Speaker 5: double check, but I think that's what it is. But
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  Speaker 5: you said it, though. Last year was one thing when
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  Speaker 5: we got blown out, and then we bounced back after
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  Speaker 5: the blowouts and won.
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  Speaker 2: That was a step in the growth under Canales.
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  Speaker 4: But we were kind of hoping that the growth would
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  Speaker 4: include this year, Bone. The growth would include maybe not
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  Speaker 4: getting humiliated once every three freaking games.
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  Speaker 2: You know? Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Week 18 is Atlanta at Carolina. That could be juicy, dude.
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  Speaker 4: That could be a Sunday nighter because it might mean
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  Speaker 4: a lot. Could be real freaking juicy. And I love
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  Speaker 4: the way we play the Falcons.
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  Speaker 2: That's good. I don't want to play the Bucs the
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  Speaker 2: last week. Bucs own us.
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  Speaker 5: But again, Matt, that's just assuming the NFC South might
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  Speaker 5: be up and down all year. We'll see what happens.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you just got to hunch over there about this. Uh,
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  Speaker 4: let's see here. Um, most people seem to be, um,
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  Speaker 4: Dan Morgan's done a lot of good things. I find
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  Speaker 4: it hard to nitpick him. Even if the point about
• 8:33
  Speaker 4: Rasheed Walker is true. Um, uh, it's coaching for me. Uh,
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  Speaker 4: Mitt is backboney. Uh, Mitt says, uh, Robert Hunt was
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  Speaker 4: Morgan's biggest miss. Damian Lewis was a nice pickup though.
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  Speaker 4: That off season Hunt gave us the one really good year, right? Uh,
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  Speaker 4: And then last year was an injury loss. And this year,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if it's coming back from the injury.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what it is, but he does not
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  Speaker 4: appear to be at the same level. And it just, yeah, it's,
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  Speaker 4: it's Damian Lewis has been such a good pickup. Robert Hunt,
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  Speaker 4: part of it's injury induced, right? But it does make
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  Speaker 4: you wonder, will we ever see anything close to the
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  Speaker 4: first season here in Charlotte version of Robert Hunt?
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  Speaker 2: It sucks.
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  Speaker 5: We're not getting the Robert Hunt they paid for right now.
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  Speaker 5: And Damian Lewis has been constantly banged up this year
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  Speaker 5: as well. A huge piece to the puzzle. But both
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  Speaker 5: guys won the injuries and won for kind of the unknown,
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  Speaker 5: I guess, of.
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  Speaker 2: Robert Hunt right now.
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  Speaker 5: Are certainly worries down the stretch. Not the performance of
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  Speaker 5: Damian Lewis, but the constant injury that he's dealing with.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, by the way, I undersold that stat that Smoke
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  Speaker 4: was reading off yesterday. It's five losses by 30 points.
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  Speaker 4: Damn it! I don't even want to know what the
• 9:46
  Speaker 4: 20-point loss number is. Now we've got to look that up. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: that's extreme embarrassment, losing by 30. Now he has, this
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  Speaker 4: dude says, you are reading stats that prove Canales ain't
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  Speaker 4: the man for the job. But that's why this is
• 10:01
  Speaker 4: not that's why this is a nuanced conversation, because he
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  Speaker 4: has certainly on his watch improved this football team in
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  Speaker 4: so many ways. But that is a disturbing trend that
• 10:14
  Speaker 4: ain't going away, man. You know, it's just it's those
• 10:19
  Speaker 4: two things kind of like fight each other, right?
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  Speaker 5: People pointing out that what's wrong with Amit today? He
• 10:25
  Speaker 5: made a solid point.
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  Speaker 4: That was a pretty good one from Amit there, man.
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  Speaker 2: Amit, just take the rest of the day off, big guy.
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  Speaker 4: Amit didn't even come after Bryce, man.
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  Speaker 2: What's going on?
• 10:34
  Speaker 5: Is he feeling okay today, though? Thoughts and prayers to Amit.
• 10:37
  Speaker 5: We hope he feels better.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, man. Let's see here.
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  Speaker 4: A texter named Walls says we need an all trenches
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  Speaker 4: draft and a good one.
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  Speaker 2: Was the law so bad we got to talk draft? No, no, please.
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  Speaker 4: But yes, like Robert Hunt looks like a guy bone
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  Speaker 4: that you're probably going to move on from in the
• 11:00
  Speaker 4: offseason unless he dramatically improves.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see. Moten.
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  Speaker 4: I wonder what happens. Like Moten, you would think we
• 11:07
  Speaker 4: get rehab, but he's only got one year left. Do
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  Speaker 4: you need to draft? That's a pretty huge injury for
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  Speaker 4: a guy his age with his wear and tear on him.
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  Speaker 4: Do you need to draft an O-tackle in the first
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  Speaker 4: round again next year?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm wondering.
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  Speaker 4: And then D-line, don't we need interior guys on this team?
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  Speaker 4: I know we drafted Hunter. Aaron Hall looks like a
• 11:24
  Speaker 4: good signing.
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  Speaker 2: We're talking draft now, aren't we?
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  Speaker 4: He's got to duke me into it, man. Damn, I
• 11:30
  Speaker 4: didn't want to talk draft for like.
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: Another couple months. How about this? We can talk draft,
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: but we can't look at mock drafts.
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  Speaker 4: Guys, stay away from those, please. 704-5709-610. Did the loss
• 11:41
  Speaker 4: shake you to the point where you're questioning coaches, where
• 11:45
  Speaker 4: you're questioning Dan Morgan? North Star Race Fan says, I'm
• 11:49
  Speaker 4: stoked for the trade deadline with Dan Morgan.
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: Do you think he's going to be active? Trade deadline
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  Speaker 2: is in two weeks, I think, Bo?
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  Speaker 5: I don't think he's going to be active because there's
• 12:01
  Speaker 5: a need at corner, but he's got guys coming back
• 12:04
  Speaker 5: at corner. He addressed... I'm trying to go through each
• 12:07
  Speaker 5: position here. He was active in the offseason at linebacker,
• 12:11
  Speaker 5: got Okereke.
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  Speaker 2: I don't see.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think so. I don't think he's going to
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  Speaker 5: be that active. I'm just trying to think of where
• 12:19
  Speaker 5: he'd be active, and I don't think so.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, corner, I would have thought if he was
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  Speaker 4: going to do something, he would have done it right away.
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  Speaker 5: He wouldn't have waited closer to the guy's comeback. He
• 12:29
  Speaker 5: would have done it right away. I know deadlines spur action,
• 12:31
  Speaker 5: and teams might not be. I mean, they might want
• 12:33
  Speaker 5: to see things play out before they trade their own players.
• 12:36
  Speaker 5: I keep coming back to DeForest Buckner. reportedly being a
• 12:41
  Speaker 5: guy that could be had if the Colts do a
• 12:43
  Speaker 5: fire sale that people expect. Jonathan Taylor is part of that.
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  Speaker 5: Just not for us, but they're going to get rid
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  Speaker 5: of a lot of people. There's also the other D-tackle, Grover,
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  Speaker 5: as well, that could be on the market. But I
• 12:55
  Speaker 5: think we are light at D-tackle, and I can't imagine
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  Speaker 5: anybody would argue with me after that performance against the
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  Speaker 5: run the other day.
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  Speaker 2: No, he's an accomplished guy, too. A leader.
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  Speaker 1: No, he.
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  Speaker 5: He'd be something for sure, but I don't know if
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  Speaker 5: they would do that or not. I don't know. I
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  Speaker 5: can't see DeForest through the trees right now.
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  Speaker 2: You're on fire today, Bone. You were on day.
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  Speaker 6: Fire!
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  Speaker 4: Some are saying I'm reaching my prime here. You're like
• 13:20
  Speaker 4: moose on the offensive glass last night, baby. Just getting
• 13:23
  Speaker 4: after it. Regulator says, I like the trade. How am
• 13:26
  Speaker 4: I going to wear a collared shirt? That's an interesting effect.
• 13:30
  Speaker 4: Regulator says, I like the trade for Nelson in Indy.
• 13:34
  Speaker 4: Let him play hunt spot. Yeah, he's another one. Quentin Nelson.
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  Speaker 4: Real good guard. So the Indy thing's interesting. I would
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  Speaker 4: definitely hope that Dan Morgan is sniffing around there a
• 13:46
  Speaker 4: little bit. No doubt about it. This dude says we
• 13:49
  Speaker 4: do need a running back. Chuba can't do it alone.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think you'd do a Jonathan. That Jonathan Taylor
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  Speaker 4: deal to me would be for someone that. Literally, like,
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  Speaker 4: their number one is injured.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like, they don't have a
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  Speaker 2: number one. Yeah. We have a number one. We would
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  Speaker 2: need support at running back, I feel like.
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  Speaker 5: If Chuba wasn't healthy, I think, yeah, that would be
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  Speaker 5: a great addition. By the way, the great Colin Hoggard, Matt,
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  Speaker 5: just sent us a list all time of Panthers' 20-point losses.
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  Speaker 5: from pro football reference so they have two this year
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  Speaker 5: they had two last year they had five in canalis's
• 14:24
  Speaker 5: first season.
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  Speaker 4: Okay so he's nine 20 point losses and five 30
• 14:27
  Speaker 4: point losses yeah and that's thank you colin for that
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: is we are made that's good stuff there from colin
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: colin colin caught us floundering right and i'm not that's
• 14:35
  Speaker 4: not a shot at anthony pagnotta i mean okay he
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: knew that we we did not have the data at
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: the ready and we're probably not going to get it
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  Speaker 4: anytime soon.
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  Speaker 5: That's when the stats come in when Colin says, all right,
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  Speaker 5: I'll go throw these guys out.
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  Speaker 2: Colin's like, where's the stats? Look it up right now.
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  Speaker 2: I have to do it for you. What was I
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  Speaker 2: going to say?
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  Speaker 4: But that's the thing. It's like their progress being made
• 14:56
  Speaker 4: in some areas. Some weeks they show progress. They show
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: progress last year. But how do those things keep happening?
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: I think it's time, Bone, to get angry at Chris Simms.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't know if this is a welcome distraction
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  Speaker 4: from the talk about the team's game on Sunday or
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  Speaker 4: if this is just going to rage bait a fan
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: base that we already are full of rage about.
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  Speaker 2: But we can't ignore this.
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  Speaker 4: So last week, Chris Sims picked, and his dad also,
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: picked the Panthers to lose to the Eagles. The Panthers
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: did something that I have to be honest with you, Bone.
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: I feel like a lot of teams do this on
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: social media. They'll mock people that picked against them.
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  Speaker 2: The Bucs did it on Sunday because everyone picked Carolina
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: to beat them.
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  Speaker 4: See, so I don't like Chris Sims felt so targeted.
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: I feel like this has done a lot. But the
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: Panthers like used clips of his picks and then highlights
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: of the game against the Eagles. and had a laugh
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: at Chris Sims' expense. Well, Chris Sims and Mike Florio
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: couldn't believe the Panthers would stoop to that level to
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: make fun of him for his prediction, right? So this week,
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: the Panthers lose to Sims' old team, the Buccaneers, by
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: the way. And this is what Chris Sims did on
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: the PFT podcast.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: 43-13.
• 16:09
  Speaker 7: Carolina Panthers, what is the world coming to? Carolina Panthers,
• 16:15
  Speaker 7: after you're 3-2 and you're in first place in the
• 16:17
  Speaker 7: division and you're talking shit on social.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: Media, Carolina Panthers, did you think you had a bye week?
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: Where were you yesterday?
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: Puffing out their chest like, oh, gosh.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: Pause that for a second. All right.
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: We were not.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: We were not prepared.
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: I don't think I told you there was a bleep
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: needed in there either, Finney.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: I didn't even hear him when I pulled it. I
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: didn't even hear him say it. That's on me, though.
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: It wasn't very easy to hear just right out loud
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: when he said it.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: And the thing you're hearing here, by the way, which
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: is why the cuss word got in there, Florio is
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: ticked at the Panthers, too, on behalf of Chris Sims. Like,
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: he's annoyed with us, too. All right, can we go
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: back to this?
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: Are we good now, Finney? I'm scared. Are we good now?
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Should be good. All right. Let's continue.
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: Let's continue here. Cause at some point, Chris Sims is
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: going to get his shots in it without cussing.
• 17:09
  Speaker 6: I believe he went into Philadelphia and beat a third
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: string quarterback while they were dealing with the most dysfunctional
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: situation in football that week. Look at us.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: We're amazing.
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: And we had to squeak it out in the fourth
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: quarter to do it. I mean, geez, here was he,
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: was he, was he, was he cats here?
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's the same. I mean, what a
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: lay in the hay. Holy crap. Was that embarrassing?
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: I mean, the one in five yuckineers come to town
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: and just, I mean, you guys laid down. You didn't
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: even lay down like some cats. You laid down like
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: some damn street dogs. You woozy, woozy, woozy cats. I mean,
• 17:56
  Speaker 6: that was embarrassing.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Holy cow.
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: I mean, unreal. That was as big a butt whooping
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: as we've seen in any game the whole year. I mean,
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: the whole year, even when they did something good, they
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: found a wide open Darren Waller down the middle of
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: the field. They had the extra point block and then
• 18:13
  Speaker 6: we had the proverbial four point play. Basically you don't
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: ever see that. I mean, it was amazing. It just
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: was a great day. Great day. Yo ho yo ho
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: the pirates life for me.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, just beyond annoying.
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: I don't know what's worse, the wussy cat or the
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: pirates on there. Also, I'm confused because he was so
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: confused last week on why do they mock him and
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: he's upset. What did he do? How is that going
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: to help now? Now it's on, baby. They're going to
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: mock you constantly. Now it's on like your guy... Donkey Kong.
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: There you go.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: He wanted to play the victim last week. Oh my God,
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: they mocked my picks. Oh my God, which as Fitty said,
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: the Bucks did this week. You'll find it all over
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: social media, admin accounts for teams is having fun with
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: people that picked against them.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Now, granted, there's.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: Probably a little oomph behind it from the Panthers bone
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: because Chris Sims has been so negative about Bryce that
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: I think, you know what I mean? That I think
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: people kind of may be over there to kind of like,
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: let's really give it to him. But like, you know,
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: that's done by teams every week. Why was he so
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: sensitive and so offended? You can't ever play the little victim.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: You can't play little wussy, wussy, wussy Sims if they
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: call you out again now. Because now it's a full-fledged feud, Boney,
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: after that performance right there.
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: Was that even a real Pirates song or just his
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: own song?
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: I'd sound like he was singing the Jake and the Neverland.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Was he singing Jake and the Neverland Pirates? I don't
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: know what that was.
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: What's going on there? All right, we come back. Adam
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: Gold from 99.9 The Fan in Raleigh. He'll react to
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: the Dave Doran firing. the UNC loss to Syracuse, and
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: much more. Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: The craziest thing, Bone, about what has just happened here
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: on the Mac and Bone show is that the text line,
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: not all, not even the majority, but 30% or so
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: responding to the Chris Sims, Wussy Cats, Yo-Ho-Ho pirate routine,
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: about 30% of them are saying, oh, he wasn't telling
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: any lies. We deserve that one. And I don't think
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: we're saying he was lying. Like, he was putting us
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: down for all the horrible stuff that we did on
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: that football field. It's just that he hated being picked
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: on the week before. Now, all of a sudden, he's
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: a tough guy. Like Bagel Guy Bone, of course.
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: You can name off the people that enjoyed that without
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: even looking at the text line.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: And Bagel Guy is one of them. So that's some
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: A-plus trolling right there. I think Bebop would even like that.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: He did.
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: But here's the thing, though. He's like three texts below you.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: If you are a troller, you have to be able
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: to take the trolling. I can't say it any simpler
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: than that. You can't cry victim the week before and
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: then be a badass. Because now it's on. You will
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: be trolled constantly now. Or at least you should be.
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: There's a rule in life that you can't be soft
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: and then call somebody a wussy cat and use those
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: type of terms the next week. You don't call a
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: grown man a wussy cat. It's something you don't do.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: We're also getting a lot of this. He is angry
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: still that Al Wallace.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: Messed up his ruptured spring. Yeah, I don't know.
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: Maybe there's something to that. We can't say it, though,
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: can we?
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: No, no. There's a former players question in that, too.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: All right. Let's just leave it at that, though. Let's
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: leave it at that.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: Anyway, speaking of players, that's the word I think of
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: when we bring in our next guest, baby.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Just a player. Adam Gold is joining us.
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: 99.9 The Fan in Raleigh here in Charlotte. You can
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: listen to him most weeknights at 7 o'clock. And Goldie
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: is here, I'm sure, to chime in on the Panther debacle,
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: among many other things.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: What's up, Goldie? How you doing, brother?
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: I am doing well. Who has the thinnest skin? Chris Sims,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Pat McAfee. Or Stephen A. Smith?
• 22:25
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: The answer is yes. That is a great question.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, McAfee's thin skin will appear next segment on the show.
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: So it's interesting you bring that up. I'm going to
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: go McAfee in the moment, yes.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Did you see the video that he is all, like,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: you know, underwear and a bunch about.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: It's so bland from the Utah students.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: It's nothing.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: It's crazy.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: He felt uncomfortable at you.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Are you joking? I couldn't believe it.
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: Thought he might get assassinated off that video and what
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: in the world?
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: We got to play this for y'all coming up next
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: segment of what he said, because it was unbelievable.
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: You think that a guy that makes that much money,
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: is involved in as many things as he wants to do,
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: controls all of ESPN, would not really care what a
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: bunch of Utah nerds have to say about him.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: But here we say it. Seriously.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Was he most offended by the keep your shirt on?
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, if they said that about me, I would understand.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's why McAfee's like, I'm fit. I actually look
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: good with my shirt off. Oh, man. I don't get it.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we got to let y'all hear what he said
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: on his show yesterday because it is crazy. But also
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: crazy was the Panthers' performance that we did not see
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: come in Goldie. I mean, how much does that worry
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: you that, man, maybe this team is not– you know,
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: made the strides and the growth that we thought they did?
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: Or do you just view it as just a crap
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: game and flush it like they've been saying?
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: What do you think?
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to be prisoner of the moment about it.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: It all depends on whether or not we have assigned
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: meaning to to the previous two weeks where, all right,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: this is a team that's basically now going to run
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: roughshod on the rest of the league. And I didn't.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: I still think that they were, you know, a 9
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: or 10 win team. And that doesn't change. And they
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: had a bad game against a capable team. And let's
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: be perfectly honest. The mistakes that they made early, the
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: muffed punts, then the strip sack return for a touchdown
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: had them in a spot where they were behind it.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Then Bryce completes, I mean, a gorgeous pass to Waller
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: for the touchdown. And then they can't block the guy
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: up the middle. And all of a sudden, so rather
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: than pick up seven points, they'd pick up four. And
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: so instead of being down, it would have been 17, what? 17, seven. Yeah,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: it's now 19-6. Unbelievable. So right there, then you throw
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: the interception. I actually haven't heard whether or not... I mean,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: that pass was so bad, part of me thinks that
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: it was a bad route or guys trying to read
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: off each other and they just individually made different reads.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Because the pass was... I don't know who that was to.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: I really don't. Seriously.
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: So.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: After that, I think the game was gone, and I
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: don't really put anything into it. It was just one
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: of those things. But, look, on the back-to-back sacks, we've
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: been saying, at least I have, all year long, I
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: don't trust the offensive line. It's amazing that they were
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: this good without a good offensive line. They're not good
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: up the middle. Rasheed Walker has not been good. He
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: has not been good at left tackle. I don't know
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: if it was a plant by Ike Ikuonu to get paid.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: But Walker has not been good.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: No, it's been brutal.
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: Do you think eventually they're going to have to make
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: a move at defensive coordinator?
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: No. No, I like Averro. I mean, is he Vic Fangio?
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Probably not. But there's a reason why he is one
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: of those under-the-radar head coaching candidates. I think he has
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: got a great rep around the league. I don't think
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: he's the problem. Uh, to me, the pro I mean, honestly,
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: there were 14 to 16 defensive points put on the board, um, early.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: I just think you get, they haven't been able to
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: stop the run forever. So, I mean, Vero is not
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: the first guy that, uh, hasn't been able to stop
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: the run. Uh, like I said, it's against the, uh,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: the bears and it was made worse by Caleb Williams, uh,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: going nuts. They couldn't stop Swift either. Um, the, I'm
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: not a hundred percent sure they've got elite defensive personnel.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: I think there's only so much you can do. Lloyd
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: is great. Uh, I don't think Derek Brown had his
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: best game this past weekend. Uh, but they really couldn't
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: stop Bucky Irving. Um, and, but they haven't been able
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: to stop the run in a while. Um, I think they,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: you know, not having Phillips, not, uh, certainly hurt i
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: don't know that it hurts the run game but it
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: just hurts your own world.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: Defense definitely i think he's the best run playing edge
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: not to mention the corners um were targeted were targeted
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: and you lose two great tackling corners so and nick
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: scorton nick scorton's a great run defender i mean i
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: know that's old news.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Oh man a lot of personnel issues there.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Okay let's uh um Mack gold. What the hell am
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: I talking about? Adam gold is with us here on
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: the back view of an old view.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: A hairless me, Adam gold, apparently.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: Um, Adam gold, Adam gold is with us. Um, let's
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: talk about the big news in Raleigh. Dave Doran fired
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: after the Stanford loss. Now Phillip rivers is seen as this,
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: you know, hot candidate. How do you feel about the
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: firing being done in season? Uh, And then, and, and
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: Rivers as a candidate.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: I think the firing, even though it's out of character
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: for state, I don't know, can't remember them ever doing
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: it since I've been here. I think it had to
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: happen just because it was too toxic. And it's one
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: of those things that, I mean, they could have let it,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: let it go to the end of the year. Wouldn't have,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have really impacted anything significant, but it's one of
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: those things where, And I've said this before. I kind
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: of wish that Dave would have retired like a couple
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: of years ago. You know, I keep saying that there's
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: two different parallel conversations. There's the conversation about the program,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: which I think is outstanding. And then there's the conversation
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: about why can't Dave get the most out of any
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: individual season? Why is there always meat left on the bones?
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: for a particular season. For instance, this year, look, there's
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: no business losing to Stanford if you're NC State, none,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: but they did. The way you lost to Vanderbilt, it's
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: really unacceptable. So what are they, three and four? I mean,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: at the very least, they should be four and three.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: If you say they beat Vanderbilt, but maybe don't beat Louisville. So,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, at the very least, they should be four
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: and three, but probably five and two. And we're not
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: having this conversation, right? Because the program has been so
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: good and so consistent. State fans will argue with me
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: all day long. You can't find a 10-year run before
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: this year that has a better outcome over a 10-year period.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: You can't find it. Certainly not with one coach. Doran
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: has really laid the foundation for somebody else to take
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: it to the next step. In some ways, he's like
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: David Cutcliffe at Duke. And that at the end, it
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: became apparent that David couldn't get them to the next
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: step if they wanted to take another step. And they
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: obviously did, because that's what success does. It makes you
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: want more success. Dorn had basically cranked out eight win
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: seasons over and over and over and over and over again.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Sometimes there was a nine. Sometimes there was a seven.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: There was an occasional bad. But that's basically what they
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: had become. and now you want more, and I get it.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Totally get it. Dave couldn't do that. I wish he
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: had retired a couple years ago and let somebody else.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Then he'd be a hero, and now he's just another
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: fired coach, although I give him a lot of credit.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Today he's going to do a Zoom at 4 o'clock.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Much credit to him for that. That's awesome.
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: What do you think of him talking before Boo talks?
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: What's that say about the future of Boo as the
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: AD at NC State?
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Oh, I don't, you know, I hadn't really thought about
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: it in those terms. I I'm not sure NC state
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: has had, I like boo personally. I really do. I'm
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: not sure they have had very many strong ADs since
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: I've been here. I mean, Lee Fowler was fine. And
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, state fans probably hate him, but he's fine. Um,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: but I wouldn't call him a strong voice. Um, you know, uh,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: I thought North Carolina had that, even though one of
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: them was Dick Bedore, uh, he was more of a
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: money guy than anything else. I think Bubba Cunningham was
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: an outstanding director of athletics. Uh, but these things, these
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: programs now are run by the boosters. And I think
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: the boosters are running NC state, uh, just like the
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: boosters are running UNC. Um, That's just the way it's gone.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: The money is running these programs.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: And they always had power, but I'll be damned, they've
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: never had this sort of power where they need them
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: constantly to get players.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Goldie, you are the man, brother. You brought it, baby.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: We appreciate you, man.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: You got it. I'm going to go take my shirt off.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: There you go, baby. I'm going to put mine on.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Please do. Thank you.
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: Oh, nice.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: That's a vision I will have next.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. And you know what, Bo? Put your pants on, too,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: while you're at it. What's going on with you today?
• 32:50
  Speaker 7: I will.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Dime.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Go put your eagle costume on.
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: All right, Goldie. Goldie, I have a pirate costume, but
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: I I know you do. I can't use it yet.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: I know you do. One of these games, we'll beat
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Baker again.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: You're one of the village people.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: I don't really know what to do for Thursday. Just
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: a big old piece of cheese, I guess.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: We should go out Saturday night, Bone, and just dress
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: up in all your different costumes as a group, man.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Make use of them. I've got more than you know.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: All right, Goldie.
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: Thank you, brother.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Later, fella.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: Adam Gold, 99.9, the fan. I now have an eyepatch
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: for you also I can't use yet.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: One of these days we'll beat the Bucs again, man.
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: The good news is they play again, but the bad
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: news is they play again.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: They own us.
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: When we come back here on the Mac and Bone Show,
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: it's what the bleep time. Stories in sports and in
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: life that make us say what the bleep. Max said
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: he's got a youth sports story, I believe he said.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. And I've got whatever.
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: McAfee's in here. Ric Flair's in here twice. Sports Radio
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: 92.7 WFNZ.
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. The latest person, Bone, to get
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: the wrath of the text line, our man Goldie. Our
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: man Goldie defended Avero a little too much for the
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: text line's liking. Even I am not kind of like that. Like,
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: I realize, dude, that Avero is on notice. Like, we
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: can't keep having that happen in the run game. I
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: am at least willing to admit that. Oh, it's not
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: trending in the right direction for him. No one's saying that. Well,
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: I don't think Goldie, yeah, I don't think Goldie, you know,
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: would even go there, kind of. So anyway, but hey, man,
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: it gets the heat off us for a segment, and
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: in just a matter of minutes, you'll probably be ripping us, too.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: All right? So it'll happen. And when you do, we
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: will read them here.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: We will read them.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: 704-570-9610.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: Let's get into some What the Bleat, Bone Man. We
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: had to move the segment. We had Brenton Buckner. Great interview,
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: by the way. Check it out on podcast.com. telling us
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: what happened to the run defense and he did stand
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: up for rivero himself too earlier in the show check
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: that podcast uh out in podcast form but we move
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: what the bleep we're doing it now stories sound bites
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: florida man actions anything that make us say what the
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: bleep what do you.
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: Got this is a florida man named rick flair all
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: right let me try to walk you through his the
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: end of his last week mac and then a story
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: that pertains to his behavior down there first of all
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: He had to cancel an appearance somewhere in the United States,
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: wherever he was going, due to having blood clots. So
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: a serious thing that we know. He had blood clots.
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: He had to cancel his appearance. That was on Thursday.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: Thursday, the same day, he ended up at his favorite
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: bar in Tampa.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Imagine that. He then fell at the bar.
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: Busted his eye open, got got stretched back out of
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: the bar, much like Ric Flair bleeding from the head.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Is this real blood or is this Flair's old trip?
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: Ended up at the hospital with this giant, giant eye
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: patch on.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: And we're all worried about Ric Flair.
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: Less than 24 hours later, the next photo is from
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: the same bar. Someone took a photo of the nature
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: boy at the bar.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: Right back at it. With his eyes patched up. Right
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: back at it. He just flushed it, Bone. He flushed
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: the rough side of the bar and got right back
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: to it.
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: Someone on Reddit who works in the service industry down
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: there said, have you all had to deal with Ric Flair.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: In 2026 like I have?
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: The person, the anonymous Reddit poster that works at a bar,
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: says Ric Flair has soiled himself at least six times
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: at that same bar.
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, what the bleep is right. Oh, my God. Come on, baby.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: That is not styling and profiling. This is the dirtiest
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: pants in the game. Oh, my.
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: The dirtiest pants in the game.
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: Oh, my.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: That is brutal, Bone Man. That's your weakened flair.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: That is absolutely brutal.
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: This man just walked out of the hospital unharmed. eyepatch
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: on and went right back to his bar.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Are you kidding me?
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: Bone, I've got the story of a future Florida man,
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: a youth soccer player that is three years old in
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: Florida right now.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Three years old?
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: Winter Park, Florida. Three-year-old soccer player. And I don't know
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: if you've seen this. This story has gone viral. They
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: were talking about it on CBS this morning, earlier today.
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: He is a three-year-old bowler, and he is making the
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: other Three-year-old soccer players look silly in this league in
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: Florida to the point, Bone, where the cops were called
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: about it on Saturday during the soccer game.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, the cops were called.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: People that were there, Bone, are quoted in the police
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: report as saying that the cops were called because the
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: kid was too good at soccer. They wanted him removed
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: from the field and they wanted other kids to take
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: his playing time because he was out there making everybody's
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: son look silly.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Now, there also ended up being a back and forth.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: My parents should have called the cops many times.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: There ended up being a back and forth between the
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: star three-year-old's parents. and and the cops the cops showed
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: up they said hey the game's over now we're leaving
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: um but there are people here that don't want him
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: on the field i've watched the highlights bone i'm gonna
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: tell you right now parents instead of calling the cops
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: and trying to get this kid kicked out of the
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: soccer league y'all got to teach these kids some defending
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: bone i'm telling you right now This was some hideous defending.
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: This kid looks like Leo Messi with all your sorry
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: center backs trying to handle this kid. Coach your kids up.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: Don't whine to the damn police. What the bleep is that?
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: We should have called the cops on Sunday.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: That's funny. That is funny right there. Unbelievable, man.
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: Mac, have you followed the torrid romance between Leslie Pickett
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: and Jon Bon Jovi? Have you followed this romance?
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: No.
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: Either has Jon Bon Jovi because this is another high-profile
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: online safety case where a woman fell for a scammer
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: that was impersonating rock legend Jon Bon Jovi. She gave
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: him $ 10, 000 to a man she thought she was dating
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: that was not the real john bon jovi oh come
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: on now seriously he was even using come on now
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: fellas he was easy even using ai matt to talk
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: to her as bon jovi and it wasn't him that
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: ain't cool man that ain't cool what's the bleep and
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: it started in nigeria so basically she fell for like
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: the new age you know nigerian prince scam but this
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: wasn't prince this was bon jovi.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: By the way, Bone, and this guy out there, if
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: he were to be listening, that's not cool at all.
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: That's dishonest, and that is very lame. But at least
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: pick a better celebrity than Jon Bon Jovi in 2026.
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: It's not 1990 anymore, y'all. Seriously.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. I just got shot through the heart.
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: All right. But you are not to blame, Bone.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Seriously.
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: This guy gives love a bad name. I worry about
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: people falling for online scams. Vinny, you've met your girl
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: in real life, right?
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: That didn't involve a Nigerian princess. Flounder is going to
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: fall for Sidney Sweeney at some point.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, man.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: People are fired up, by the way, about this story.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: A couple of things with the kid. I'm going back
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: to the kid now, Bone. He was playing in a
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: five-U league. So he's playing against kids that are older
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: than him, even. Still making him look silly. Yes, some
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: people are saying the parents were the problem whatsoever, but
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: there were other observers saying, that basically said they want
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: to kick this kid out of the league because.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: He's too good. And the parents got upset about that.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: So whatever. I'm just going to say this.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: How about I what the bleep the cops need me
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: to be called to a youth sports league? As someone
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: who's been around youth sports for years, I understand people
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: are crazy and out of control.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: It should never require police intervention.
• 41:02
  Speaker 5: No, no, no.
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: Like, we need the adults to sort things out. But anyway,
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: let's get to the Pat McAfee portion of what the
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: bleep on. Adam Gold teed this up for us, and
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: we are going to pay it off. So Pat McAfee
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: Bone was very upset while doing game day on Saturday.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: It started, Bone, with him taking his shirt off at
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: the start of the show in protest of a New
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: York Times article, Bone, which is two weeks old. that
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: called him out and said basically he's ruining game day
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: with his hijinks. He is, this is the second straight week,
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: Boney's had to call that article out on game day.
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: And then there was also this viral video that were
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: students doing McAfee impressions at Utah, goofing off, saying McAfee,
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: leave your shirt on.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: I love you, but it's creepy.
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: And the university then posted it on their Instagram account.
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: It upset McAfee so much that at the end of
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: the show, he defiantly picked against Utah only because of
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: this and said, I want to never come back here again.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: He was that upset by this Instagram post that wasn't anything.
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: They never called him creepy, by the way, in the video. Oh,
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: they didn't say creepy. No, corny, but not creepy. Corny
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: they did. He said they called him creepy. They just
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: said keep your shirt on. Yes, they never called him creepy.
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: So that's important context here. Even if they did call
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: him creepy, like you're going to act a fool. I
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: act a fool for a living. I'm going to say
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: it right now. I act a fool for a living.
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: I want, like, when I dance like an ass, I
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: want to be made fun of. Like, I am trying
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: to amuse you. The stuff that Pat McAfee does is
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: begging for people to react. And when he gets reactions,
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: he wants to cry about it. That's not the way
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: it should work. Listen to him yesterday, two days later, Bone,
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: still telling everybody how much he now hates Utah because
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: of this.
• 42:43
  Speaker 8: Right before I go out there, okay? Right before I
• 42:46
  Speaker 8: go out there. I see the University of Utah's Instagram page. Okay?
• 42:52
  Speaker 8: The universities.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: This is.
• 42:56
  Speaker 8: This is how we are. They put out an impression
• 42:59
  Speaker 8: of Pat McAfee, and one kid goes, oh, he's corny.
• 43:02
  Speaker 8: Another kid calls me creepy. If these kids would have
• 43:05
  Speaker 8: done this on their own blogs, all good. I mean,
• 43:07
  Speaker 8: everybody's taking shots at me anyways for everything. I get it.
• 43:10
  Speaker 8: If the two ladies that were hosting that put that
• 43:12
  Speaker 8: out on their own blog, I'd be okay with it. Hey,
• 43:15
  Speaker 8: you're allowed to do what you want. The university puts
• 43:17
  Speaker 8: that out? Like, as I'm about to go out and
• 43:20
  Speaker 8: do an infomercial for the place, and then I'm walking
• 43:22
  Speaker 8: in front of thousands of these people. This is how
• 43:24
  Speaker 8: the university feels about it. It's an uncomfortable feeling. I'm like,
• 43:27
  Speaker 8: this is, you know, I'm getting a lot of shrapnel
• 43:29
  Speaker 8: from a lot of places. The university is putting this out?
• 43:32
  Speaker 8: That is something I just had never experienced, really, in
• 43:36
  Speaker 8: my entire life. So it kind of sent me off
• 43:39
  Speaker 8: a little bit. It made me feel a little bit weird,
• 43:41
  Speaker 8: I would say. It made me feel a little bit weird.
• 43:43
  Speaker 8: And then I thought to myself, has anything, like, really
• 43:45
  Speaker 8: scary happened at, like, a college event? gathering in the
• 43:49
  Speaker 8: state of Utah recently? Like, do we think we should
• 43:51
  Speaker 8: be amplifying reasons for why people hate my guts as
• 43:55
  Speaker 8: a university? I don't know. So it was just, it
• 43:58
  Speaker 8: was a lot of mixed feelings for me going out there.
• 44:01
  Speaker 8: And then, obviously, the kicker goes, only $ 1 million? Only
• 44:04
  Speaker 8: $ 1 million? It's like, all right, I hate this place.
• 44:08
  Speaker 8: I hate this place. They got a good football team, though.
• 44:10
  Speaker 8: They got a good football team. But I've never been
• 44:13
  Speaker 8: more uncomfortable, honestly, in my life, walking in front of
• 44:16
  Speaker 8: a group of people after watching their university put out
• 44:18
  Speaker 8: a post basically dogging me just moments before.
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: It's the most dramatic reaction to really nothing that was
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: said I've ever heard in my life. You talk about
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: the softest skinned person in America for all that he does. Like,
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: you got to understand, Pat, the way you act, not
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: everyone's going to be for you. But what they said
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: in the video was just.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: Just, just.
• 44:39
  Speaker 8: Silliness.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: College kids being silliness.
• 44:41
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: College kids silliness leave your shirt on i love you
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: leave your shirt on oh he's corny like that's the
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: stuff bone we read on the text line every day
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: max max corny max dad joke like like like you
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: are is great you are i'm sorry you are a
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: personality like that you you should know what you're doing
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: and by the way you should love the fact that
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: the whole video was students talking about you You'll become
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: the star of game day very quickly. And you are
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: the guy that students are talking about. And they love
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: you or they hate you. And then, as people are
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: pointing out on the text line, to reference what happened
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: to Charlie Kirk and compare it to that, how the
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: heck do you.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: You said it dramatic.
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: He took a hell of a route from that video
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: to assassination.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: It's just... They were having fun, bro.
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: Also, like McAfee, you think you're... You're on the level
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: where people would want to, like, assassinate you?
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: Like, what?
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: You talk about thinking that you're a certain person of...
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, you're valued for the sports world and
• 45:44
  Speaker 5: all that, but my gracious, assassination attempt.
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: Because students call you corny and don't take your shirt
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: off while smiling and laughing and saying they love you.
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: That....
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Equals assassination attempt?
• 45:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: And he just seems like.
• 45:57
  Speaker 4: The New York Times article, I told you, Bone, he
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: had to take a dig at them for the second straight... Like,
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: took off his shirt. Usually does it at the end
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: of the show, right? During his prediction. Took off his
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: shirt to start the show because of the New York
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: Times article, which was 10 days earlier.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Like, he just.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: The criticism really bothers him. And, like, I get it. Like,
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: there'll be criticism that'll bother me or whatever, and then
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: I try to remind myself, like, you can't put yourself
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: out there like that without, like.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Criticism. You know what I mean?
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: His style brings– if you don't want criticism, go be
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: Reese Davis. Reese Davis won't get mocked like that. Like,
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: what you do is so strong-willed, like, it is going
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: to bring on criticism.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: It's just inevitable.
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: Do we think Charles Barkley would act this way, who
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: messes with everybody? He calls San Antonio big women, goes there,
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: and they mess with them, right?
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: I felt what the bleep you did, man.
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: By the way, McAfee, do what I do and be
• 46:49
  Speaker 5: above the critics like that, McAfee. Also, also, Mackers, I
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: have a question before we go to break. From what
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: I see, he gets a ton of views. He makes
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: a ton of money. He's made a life for himself.
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: Who are the McAfee fans of 2026? Because on the
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: text line, I'd say 99.9% of our audience doesn't like McAfee.
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: You go on the internet, they don't like McAfee.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: It's young. It's young people. Yeah, I guess it is.
• 47:15
  Speaker 6: I guess.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: You want to know the irony? Those kids on those
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: videos like McAfee. They made a movie. They're just playing.
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: They're playing a part. They're busting chops. Like, people bust
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: our chops. Like, they're busting his chops or whatever. And
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: we got our guy here on the text line. I
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: don't even know how to say his name.
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: Wouch. I like to say guach. Guach?
• 47:33
  Speaker 8: Guach?
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: I call him guach.
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: Guach says, you do a live show at UNC Charlotte.
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: We should call him Charlotte now, or else they might
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: post a video about us. But he says, you go
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: do a live show at Charlotte. They post something about
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: the students talking bad about you, and you're not going
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: to come on the next day and complain.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, no, Mac.
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: Don't dance out here. Don't dance out here, Mac. We
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: make fun of you. It was harmless silliness.
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: It would be like them saying this uncoordinated dad joke
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: in Goober.
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: Like, it was so... It was just such silly... Hey, Bo,
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: don't wear all your team gear out here. All right,
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: we're going to break right now. When we come back,
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: the Hornets are off to a 3-1 start. Brandon Miller
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: looks like he's on that star course. Are the Bugs
• 48:12
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