Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / Minister for Agriculture and Northern Australia David Littleproud says robots are being trialled for use in biosecurity monitoring in the NT
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Few announcements happening in the Northern Territory at the moment.
- 0:03Speaker 1: From the federal government's perspective, and joining us on the
- 0:06Speaker 1: line right now is the Minister for Agriculture and Northern Australia,
- 0:10Speaker 1: David little Proud.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Good morning to your minister.
- 0:13Speaker 3: Oh, good morning. Good to be back with you.
- 0:15Speaker 2: Yeah, good to have you on the show.
- 0:16Speaker 1: Firstly, I understand that you're going to be testing these
- 0:19Speaker 1: five remote controlled robots.
- 0:21Speaker 2: Tell me a bit more about these, yeah.
- 0:24Speaker 3: Look, by A. Security is one of the biggest issues
- 0:27Speaker 3: we have in agriculture at the moment. We're really concerned
- 0:29Speaker 3: about some of the threats we've got, whether that be
- 0:31Speaker 3: African flying fever or now lumpy skin that's in Indonesia.
- 0:35Speaker 3: And what we're trying to do is increase our capacity
- 0:38Speaker 3: to be able to do more surveillance and detexas. And
- 0:41Speaker 3: to do that, we're not just putting more boots on
- 0:43Speaker 3: the ground and more dogs on the ground. We're actually
- 0:45Speaker 3: putting robotic dogs and even small robots that are allowing
- 0:49Speaker 3: us to get into places and to inspect places on
- 0:52Speaker 3: whether that be tractors or bulldozers or even on containers
- 0:56Speaker 3: that we haven't been able to do with Starli before.
- 0:59Speaker 3: So we're using imaging technology with these robots to get
- 1:03Speaker 3: in the cracks and crevices to be able to have
- 1:06Speaker 3: a look and to find any pest or or weed
- 1:09Speaker 3: that may be on there that had cause us harm.
- 1:11Speaker 3: So this is a big investment. We put out a
- 1:12Speaker 3: billion dollars of the last two budgets in the bias
- 1:16Speaker 3: que but Northern Australia is the front line of biosecurity
- 1:18Speaker 3: and so today sixty six million dollars a learning just
- 1:22Speaker 3: in more money for up here. What we see Northern
- 1:26Speaker 3: Territory in particular has to be the centerpiece of our
- 1:28Speaker 3: protection agriculture and the environment for that matter.
- 1:31Speaker 1: Yeah right, it sounds like something out of a sci
- 1:33Speaker 1: fi film. Minister, they're robotic dogs, but it sounds like
- 1:36Speaker 1: they're needed.
- 1:38Speaker 2: It is.
- 1:39Speaker 3: And look, this is the thing is we're actually shifting
- 1:41Speaker 3: towards technology. In fact, we're the first country in the
- 1:43Speaker 3: world now that's using three D X ray technology with
- 1:46Speaker 3: artificial intelligence. Every path of that goes to Australia post
- 1:50Speaker 3: will now be scanned. And in fact we're moving towards
- 1:53Speaker 3: digital declaration cards when you come into Australia about watching
- 1:56Speaker 3: your bag. We're now starting with New Zealand a trial
- 1:59Speaker 3: that will put your bags through a three D X
- 2:02Speaker 3: ray scanner as well. And if it doesn't marry up
- 2:04Speaker 3: with your decoration cards, my biosecurity officers will be sitting
- 2:07Speaker 3: waiting for you at the airport before you even get
- 2:09Speaker 3: off with a fine when we've lifted them from just
- 2:11Speaker 3: over four hundred dollars to the mast we can which
- 2:13Speaker 3: is just over two thy six hundred, and we've canceled these.
- 2:17Speaker 3: In fact, last week we canceled a student's visa international
- 2:20Speaker 3: student visa who had ten kilos of meat on him
- 2:24Speaker 3: and we have sent him home and they are not
- 2:26Speaker 3: welcome back to this country for another three years. He
- 2:29Speaker 3: can do his study externally because foot and mouth disease
- 2:32Speaker 3: would just wipe out the Northern Territory cattle industry. So
- 2:36Speaker 3: you know, we're taking this seriously and we've got it.
- 2:39Speaker 3: We've got to be tough, but we've got to have
- 2:40Speaker 3: the technology to make sure we detect people. Then people
- 2:42Speaker 3: can get around this by just simply declaring.
- 2:44Speaker 1: So, Minister, where exactly is the trial which is happening
- 2:47Speaker 1: in the territory.
- 2:48Speaker 2: Where in the territories are happening out out of.
- 2:52Speaker 3: The airport here. In fact, we just had the just
- 2:54Speaker 3: had the road by trialed and the dog was here
- 2:56Speaker 3: last week and it's now being taken to Brisbane to
- 3:00Speaker 3: more trials. So each port is different and unique, and
- 3:03Speaker 3: that's why the territory has has to be across not
- 3:06Speaker 3: just airports but also the seaports. So we're trialing it
- 3:12Speaker 3: up here because we believe this is sort of gives
- 3:14Speaker 3: it the biggest test across multidiscipline for our biosecurity officers
- 3:18Speaker 3: and because this is the front line, this really is
- 3:20Speaker 3: now becoming the front line in the territory. So we're
- 3:24Speaker 3: trialing these new innovations up here because we see that
- 3:28Speaker 3: will be an investment. But we're also putting more men
- 3:32Speaker 3: and women on the ground and we're going towards indigenous
- 3:34Speaker 3: ranges more. And that's what this sixty million dollars will
- 3:36Speaker 3: do is put more boots on the ground, more dogs
- 3:39Speaker 3: on the ground. There'll be four dogs live dogs in
- 3:42Speaker 3: these ones are that we bought up. But if the
- 3:45Speaker 3: robot dogs work out as well, they'll complement and supplement
- 3:47Speaker 3: those dogs. We won't get it of our labor doings.
- 3:50Speaker 3: I'll get a big role to play.
- 3:51Speaker 1: I was going to say, I hope the robot dogs
- 3:54Speaker 1: aren't doing our canines out of a job, but it
- 3:57Speaker 1: sounds as though they're all certainly required.
- 4:00Speaker 3: No, and it's we're to send the robot dogs into
- 4:02Speaker 3: areas that we don't want our live dogs, our labradors
- 4:06Speaker 3: going to that aren't safe. So it's just protecting them.
- 4:09Speaker 3: They're very expensive and but they can get into places
- 4:12Speaker 3: that we can't send the labradors in because we're just
- 4:15Speaker 3: concerned about their safety.
- 4:16Speaker 1: Yeah, right now, it's not the only announcement that you're
- 4:18Speaker 1: making while you're in the territory. I know that one
- 4:20Speaker 1: point one two five million dollars is going to be
- 4:23Speaker 1: invested over three years to support the creation of adoption
- 4:27Speaker 1: offices in Northern wa and into Drought Resilience Adoption and
- 4:33Speaker 1: Innovation Hub.
- 4:34Speaker 2: What is this all about.
- 4:36Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a real modernization of our agricultural innovation
- 4:40Speaker 3: systems and particularly around drought. And what's happened is is
- 4:43Speaker 3: over billion dollars a year of research dollars that paid
- 4:46Speaker 3: from farmers through levies and through the Australian taxpayer to
- 4:50Speaker 3: give our farmers the tool for research and development and
- 4:53Speaker 3: Unfortunately what's happening is Dayton Territory governments used to have
- 4:55Speaker 3: extension offices in their Department of Prime Industries that used
- 4:59Speaker 3: to go out of the kitchen and explain to farmers
- 5:01Speaker 3: what this research and science is and how they could
- 5:04Speaker 3: make a dollar out of it. Unfortunately, they've been ripped away.
- 5:07Speaker 3: And so what we've done is we've created eight innovation
- 5:09Speaker 3: hubs around the country, one here in the Northern Territory.
- 5:12Speaker 3: And it's important that we then have not only the
- 5:15Speaker 3: science and research being done in those put in those
- 5:18Speaker 3: innovation hubs, but when we have someone sitting out at
- 5:20Speaker 3: kitchen tables and town halls telling farmers about the opportunities
- 5:24Speaker 3: that this science or technology may give them at the
- 5:27Speaker 3: farm gate, building their profitability and resilience to further droughts
- 5:31Speaker 3: or our per cyclone. So this is the sort of
- 5:33Speaker 3: work where we believe if our job is simply to
- 5:36Speaker 3: give the farmers the tools, then let them get on
- 5:39Speaker 3: with the job of producing the best food and vibe
- 5:41Speaker 3: in the world. But when you've got over a billion
- 5:44Speaker 3: dollars a year that's going out there, if we get
- 5:46Speaker 3: them out of the capital city universities and into universities
- 5:49Speaker 3: in regional areas like Darwin. It really shifts the dial
- 5:54Speaker 3: on our education system in giving a real signal to
- 5:58Speaker 3: young people they can do a course in Darwin in
- 6:01Speaker 3: agriculture and then have a career in it. Don't have
- 6:04Speaker 3: to go to Melbourne or sit in your Brisbane to
- 6:05Speaker 3: do it. They can stay up here and then you
- 6:08Speaker 3: can be part of the ecosystem that will give our
- 6:10Speaker 3: farmers the tools, and these extension officers will then take
- 6:13Speaker 3: those tools out to the farmers and hopefully make them
- 6:16Speaker 3: more profitable and continue to produce that food and fiber
- 6:19Speaker 3: we enjoy.
- 6:19Speaker 1: Now, as I'm sure you are aware of, this week
- 6:22Speaker 1: here in Darwen, the Senate's inquiry hearings are taking place
- 6:27Speaker 1: into fracking in the Beterloo basin. I know that there
- 6:29Speaker 1: have been some pastorless in that hearing who voiced concerns
- 6:34Speaker 1: about the fracking of the Beterloo. Is it something that
- 6:36Speaker 1: you're keeping.
- 6:37Speaker 2: An eye on?
- 6:39Speaker 3: I am that I can speak from lived experience being
- 6:42Speaker 3: a Queenslander. We actually had this thrust upon us back
- 6:45Speaker 3: in around two thousand and seven back in Queensland where
- 6:49Speaker 3: we had Coultine gas put on us in the shrap
- 6:52Speaker 3: basin overnight. There was no process, approval process put in place.
- 6:56Speaker 3: It was simply we were told that you're going to
- 6:58Speaker 3: get cultine gas. And so a lot's been learned from that,
- 7:02Speaker 3: and I think it's important that state and territory governments
- 7:05Speaker 3: ensure that the regulatory framework they put around gas companies
- 7:08Speaker 3: gives primary producers the confidence in those approval processes and
- 7:13Speaker 3: in the application of the mining of those gases. So
- 7:17Speaker 3: we've seen that there was particularly in my hometown, there
- 7:20Speaker 3: was a real ansty with this when it first came out,
- 7:22Speaker 3: but there is a coexistance that those exist there now,
- 7:26Speaker 3: but it's one that needs constant monitoring by state and
- 7:29Speaker 3: territory governments around particularly groundwater, and that's something that we
- 7:33Speaker 3: want to make sure that the state territory governments are
- 7:36Speaker 3: doing properly to give that confidence. And I think you
- 7:39Speaker 3: know that's only right the past for us have concerns
- 7:41Speaker 3: about this. There's nothing to be shamed in this because
- 7:44Speaker 3: this is their livelihood we're playing with. Yeah, but we
- 7:46Speaker 3: need to be able to have a process that they
- 7:48Speaker 3: can back the science and they can back the regulatory
- 7:50Speaker 3: process that supports this and have confidence in it. And
- 7:53Speaker 3: that's what State and territory government should be able.
- 7:55Speaker 1: To provide and are you confident that we'll be able
- 7:57Speaker 1: to do that here in the Northern Territory.
- 8:00Speaker 3: Well, I've got to say, being fair on this, I'm
- 8:03Speaker 3: got to say the Northern Territory went through a far
- 8:05Speaker 3: more extensive approval process than what we did in Queensland,
- 8:09Speaker 3: so it has gone through more regulatory and scientific and
- 8:13Speaker 3: environmental hoops than what we got in Queensland. So I'm
- 8:18Speaker 3: saying that the process that I would say I've seen
- 8:20Speaker 3: so far has been far more, farwer than what we
- 8:23Speaker 3: experience in Queensland, and that's a positive. But it's important
- 8:27Speaker 3: that's continued to be reinforced and science should be the
- 8:30Speaker 3: predicator of how we move forward with this and be
- 8:33Speaker 3: able to provide that confidence to pastor us and to
- 8:36Speaker 3: Indigenous Australians as well well.
- 8:38Speaker 1: Minister David little Proud, we always appreciate your time when
- 8:41Speaker 1: you're in the territory and made any idea when is
- 8:43Speaker 1: this election happening.
- 8:45Speaker 3: Well, it has to be done by the twenty first
- 8:47Speaker 3: of May, so if you want to have a better
- 8:49Speaker 3: I reckonill either be the fourteenth or twenty first of May.
- 8:52Speaker 1: Fourteenth or the twenty first of May, and we can
- 8:55Speaker 1: Territorians expect there to be a bit in the budget
- 8:58Speaker 1: for us next week when it sounded down.
- 9:01Speaker 3: There will be. But you got to understand, we spend
- 9:03Speaker 3: a lot of your money already in just getting us
- 9:04Speaker 3: through this COVID crisis, and we've come out really well.
- 9:08Speaker 3: Our economy is better than anyone else in the world.
- 9:09Speaker 3: But someone's going to have to repay the bill, and
- 9:11Speaker 3: governments don't repay bills unless they put up your taxes,
- 9:14Speaker 3: and so we're not going to do that. And we
- 9:16Speaker 3: believe that the best way to repay the debt is
- 9:18Speaker 3: to grow the pie. And the only way to grow
- 9:20Speaker 3: the pie is let you decide how to spend your money,
- 9:23Speaker 3: not a government from Canberra. So we'll try and get
- 9:26Speaker 3: the balance right. But you know, we've got to reflect
- 9:29Speaker 3: we've been through a lot over the last three years,
- 9:30Speaker 3: whether it be fires, the drought, cyclizers in COVID. We're
- 9:34Speaker 3: still we're still swinging pretty hard as Australians. And you
- 9:37Speaker 3: know it's not just governments have done that. Australian people
- 9:40Speaker 3: have stood tool and we're in a good space as
- 9:42Speaker 3: a country. We've got a lot to do there's a
- 9:44Speaker 3: lot of challenges ahead of us, but we're in a
- 9:46Speaker 3: good space because we've done the hard yards well.
- 9:49Speaker 1: David Little Proud, thank you very much for having a
- 9:51Speaker 1: chat with us this morning.
- 9:51Speaker 2: No doubt we'll talk to you again soon.
- 9:54Speaker 3: Sounds good. Thank