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The Most Difficult Thing You Will Ever Do Spiritually · Prioritize Your Life

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  Speaker 1: Stop asking why me and start being grateful for every opportunity,
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  Speaker 1: every circumstance, every instance that allows you to grow. And dude,
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  Speaker 1: it changes everything.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Prioritize Your Life and PrioritizeYourLife.com. I'm Unbelievably excited
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  Speaker 2: to be with Keaton the Muscle Hoskins today. Thank you
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  Speaker 2: so much, man, for your time.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely. I'm honored to be with you, man.
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  Speaker 2: I want to start in probably an unorthodox way by
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  Speaker 2: just explaining what you've already done in my life with
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  Speaker 2: the short amount of time that I've known you, because
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of crazy to me, and I just have
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  Speaker 2: to say thank you. And I want to throw out
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  Speaker 2: a pitch to everybody that's looking to make a change
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  Speaker 2: in their life to check out Limitless Society. First, I
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  Speaker 2: spent the better part of a year studying stoicism. And
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  Speaker 2: just got into it. And you know, their whole thing
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  Speaker 2: is memento mori. It's be aware of your own death.
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  Speaker 2: Become the best version of yourself that you can be
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  Speaker 2: because time is limited. So that was a big part
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  Speaker 2: of my life. But still, I can't say that I'd
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  Speaker 2: wake up in the morning and I was like, remember
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  Speaker 2: that you're going to die today. And then my own
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  Speaker 2: mom passed away about a year ago. And nothing brings
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  Speaker 2: you closer to your own mortality than a loved one
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  Speaker 2: passing away. But I can't say even still that that
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  Speaker 2: got me out of bed in the morning where the
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  Speaker 2: first thing I thought of was like, You need to
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  Speaker 2: get moving.
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  Speaker 1: Your time is short.
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  Speaker 2: So then inter-meeting you, in just the past couple months,
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  Speaker 2: you share a story about your dad passing away when
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  Speaker 2: you were only 21. You talked about the hourglass and
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  Speaker 2: how we need to look at our lives as if
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  Speaker 2: they were an hourglass and every piece of sand passes by.
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  Speaker 1: And it did something to me.
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  Speaker 2: It just spoke to my soul in a way that stoicism,
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  Speaker 2: my own mom, all of those things didn't touch. And
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  Speaker 2: I can't say why. I just think, just thank you.
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  Speaker 2: So the next day I watched, I watched that speech.
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  Speaker 2: The next day I got out of bed, I literally
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  Speaker 2: saw an hourglass in front of my face. It's like
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  Speaker 2: the first time something has just hit me in the face.
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  Speaker 2: The second I got out of bed and I was like,
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  Speaker 2: get moving today, man. Like this is it.
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  Speaker 1: This is your day.
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  Speaker 2: And it's been that way every day since. So I
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  Speaker 2: just have to thank you and, uh, tell everybody to
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  Speaker 2: go check out the limitless society. Cause this is what
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  Speaker 2: Keaton does. And, uh, You have an amazing gift, and
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  Speaker 2: just thank you so much.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate that, man. I spend a lot of time
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  Speaker 1: telling people that you don't have time. You really don't.
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  Speaker 1: It's from Marcus Aurelius, and that is you should contemplate
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  Speaker 1: death on a regular basis. And the reality is if
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  Speaker 1: you do that, it puts you into a perspective, a
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  Speaker 1: different perspective. And I teach this very simple principle to
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  Speaker 1: people all the time, and that is true perspective breeds discipline.
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  Speaker 1: Because when we know that we only have so much time,
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  Speaker 1: we're more disciplined with the time that we're given. We're
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  Speaker 1: more disciplined in how we talk and how we act
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  Speaker 1: and how we speak and what we think about and
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  Speaker 1: what we, I mean, all of those things. And the
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  Speaker 1: reality is, I was even talking to one of your
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  Speaker 1: guys about somebody that we knew who passed away, a
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  Speaker 1: young kid who passed away. And it was a freak
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  Speaker 1: thing and he left behind a family. You don't really
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  Speaker 1: know how much time you have. And that's okay. That's okay.
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  Speaker 1: But what you should do is realize that your time
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  Speaker 1: is running out. You should be more selfish with your time.
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  Speaker 1: You should be more giving with your time to the
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  Speaker 1: people that you want to give to. And when you
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  Speaker 1: really put into perspective, real perspective, like, dude, I could
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  Speaker 1: be here today and then I could be gone tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: And then when you really internalize that, like personally, then
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  Speaker 1: you go to the next step. And the next step is,
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  Speaker 1: and you've heard me say this, is like, dude, I
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  Speaker 1: contemplate the death of my children, the death of my wife.
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  Speaker 1: All of those contemplations give me true perspective in which
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  Speaker 1: I live, which is I know how I want this
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  Speaker 1: interaction to go. I don't want to fight. I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to argue. I don't want to spend time doing stupid.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to waste time because the reality is
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  Speaker 1: I just don't have that much, right? And even when
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  Speaker 1: you came in, I told you if I could go
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  Speaker 1: back and talk with God, I would give him one
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  Speaker 1: piece of advice and I would say, hey, put an
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  Speaker 1: hourglass on everybody's shoulder. I sure as no. There are
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  Speaker 1: people wasting their lives right now that if they sat
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  Speaker 1: and wasted their life and watched that hourglass go, they wouldn't,
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  Speaker 1: they wouldn't do it because the perspective in which they
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  Speaker 1: had knowing like I can sit here or I can
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  Speaker 1: go get out of life what I want and do
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  Speaker 1: what I want to do because this is running out,
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  Speaker 1: you know?
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  Speaker 2: That's a perfect segue because one of the big questions
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you, and it's something that I
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  Speaker 2: love about the entire premise of the Limitless Society is you're,
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  Speaker 2: you're unwavering belief in God and you're have no fear
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  Speaker 2: of just telling people who you are why you're doing
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  Speaker 2: it and how God is like the center point of
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  Speaker 2: all of that so I'd love to just talk about
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  Speaker 2: and almost I feel like someone in your position it's
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  Speaker 2: almost it's almost like saying why do you still believe
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  Speaker 2: in God because there's there's a lot of people that
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  Speaker 2: have a hard time with that belief and I've even
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  Speaker 2: heard you preaching it's like I don't care which one
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  Speaker 2: is but freaking decide which I find it's awesome so
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  Speaker 2: I'd love to talk to you about your belief and
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  Speaker 2: why you're there still and And how that all has
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  Speaker 2: kind of come about in your life.
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  Speaker 1: You know, this weekend I did a mastermind in Cabo.
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  Speaker 1: And I spoke quite a bit. And one of the
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  Speaker 1: topics that I spoke on was coming to know who
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  Speaker 1: you really are allows you to become the person to
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  Speaker 1: make the decisions that you need to make in your life.
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  Speaker 1: One of my good friends, Cody Sanchez, she's a business coach.
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  Speaker 1: She's pretty famous. She says, if I took an entrepreneur
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  Speaker 1: to dinner and I handed them a menu, I know
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  Speaker 1: how successful they're going to be based on how long
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  Speaker 1: it takes them to order off the menu. And what
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  Speaker 1: she was talking about was the decisiveness, like the time
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  Speaker 1: it takes to make a decision, right? And if it's short,
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  Speaker 1: they'll be successful. If it's a long drawn out process,
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  Speaker 1: they're not going to be successful. Well, the reality is,
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  Speaker 1: is that we're talking about perspective. When you get into
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  Speaker 1: the right perspective, you don't have any more time to
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  Speaker 1: just sit and think on decisions that you're going to make.
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  Speaker 1: So how do I, if I'm somebody who's indecisive, if
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  Speaker 1: I take a long time to make decisions, how do
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  Speaker 1: I change that? And this weekend, the principle that I
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  Speaker 1: taught was you don't know who you are. And when
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  Speaker 1: you find out who you are, you're able to make
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  Speaker 1: those decisions much, much quicker. Well, how do you find
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  Speaker 1: out who you are? And one of those simple pieces
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  Speaker 1: is you should find out if you believe in God.
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  Speaker 1: Whether that's you don't or you do, just get off
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  Speaker 1: the fence, right? And the more that I come to
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  Speaker 1: know In me, independent of any other person who God is,
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  Speaker 1: it allows me to make the right decisions because I
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  Speaker 1: know who I am. I'll tell you, like, I build leaders. Like,
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  Speaker 1: that's what I want to build. And you're becoming a
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  Speaker 1: great leader, like doing all this cool stuff. Building a
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  Speaker 1: leader means helping someone come to know who they are.
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  Speaker 1: Most people don't know who they are. And that's the problem,
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  Speaker 1: is when times come, whether they're difficult, easy, stressful, angry,
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  Speaker 1: whatever time comes, whatever chaos comes, I know I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to make the right decision because I know exactly who
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  Speaker 1: I am. And the problem is, is when you don't
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  Speaker 1: know who you are, you're indecisive on everything. And every
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  Speaker 1: little mistake you make and every success you see is
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  Speaker 1: drawn out because the decision time that it took to
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  Speaker 1: make it was drawn out. So I preach this all
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  Speaker 1: the time. You should come to know who you are
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  Speaker 1: and this is how you do it. And I'll just
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  Speaker 1: run it through like just a quick example for the listeners.
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  Speaker 1: Number one, you should figure out what your core values are.
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  Speaker 1: Most people don't really know what their core values are, right?
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  Speaker 1: You write down your core values. I wanna be good
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  Speaker 1: to people. I wanna be a good dad. I wanna
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  Speaker 1: make a lot of money. I wanna be happy. I
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  Speaker 1: wanna take care of people, right? And you list out
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  Speaker 1: your core values, which is something most people have never done,
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  Speaker 1: but you should do it. Then, and this is where
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  Speaker 1: it gets hard, you draw a line down the middle
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  Speaker 1: of that. And on that line, you write, what am
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  Speaker 1: I willing to die for? That changes quite a bit
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  Speaker 1: of those core values. Now, I did this once and
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  Speaker 1: I wrote, I want to help other people, right? That
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  Speaker 1: was my core value. And then I asked the question,
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  Speaker 1: am I willing to die to help other people? What
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  Speaker 1: do you think the answer was? Yes. No, the answer
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  Speaker 1: was no. The answer was absolutely not. Now, let me
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  Speaker 1: tell you why. And this is why you do this exercise. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I have five children and a wife. I'm not willing
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  Speaker 1: to leave them fatherless and leave my wife husbandless to
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  Speaker 1: help other people. My duty and my role is to
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  Speaker 1: them first. Gotcha. So I asked that question, am I
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  Speaker 1: willing to die for this? And I said, no, I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: So I crossed that off. I went down that list.
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  Speaker 1: You know, one of the things I said was honor
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  Speaker 1: and integrity above all else. I asked the question, am
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  Speaker 1: I willing to die for honor and integrity? Yes, I am.
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  Speaker 1: I'm okay for my children to stand at my grave
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  Speaker 1: and say, my dad died for honor and integrity. He
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  Speaker 1: lived and died on those principles, and I'm okay with that.
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  Speaker 1: So from the list of core values, I create a
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  Speaker 1: new list, and that list is my favorite list in
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  Speaker 1: the whole world. It's called ethos. Your ethos. There isn't
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  Speaker 1: a human being on this planet who is a good
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  Speaker 1: leader who doesn't have ethos. Ethos is really simple. It
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  Speaker 1: is a guiding belief. It is the platform on which
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  Speaker 1: you make decisions. If I don't have that platform set up,
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  Speaker 1: I can't make the decisions, which then I go back Well,
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  Speaker 1: why does it take you so long to make decisions?
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  Speaker 1: Because you don't have a real ethos. You don't know
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  Speaker 1: who you are. So I fill out this whole list
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  Speaker 1: of core values. I transfer from that list to my ethos.
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  Speaker 1: What am I willing to die for? That list is
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  Speaker 1: much shorter. In that list, I create who I am.
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  Speaker 1: I come up with my ethos. What am I willing
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  Speaker 1: to die for? And when I create that list and
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  Speaker 1: I build that platform, everything that comes my way, every
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  Speaker 1: question that comes, every decision I need to make, I
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  Speaker 1: immediately go to my ethos. I'm no longer going back
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  Speaker 1: and forth and saying, well, I wanna help that person,
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  Speaker 1: but it's gonna affect how I take care of my family.
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  Speaker 1: That's not a question anymore. My family comes first. So
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  Speaker 1: doing that allows a human being to find out who
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  Speaker 1: they are. One of my best friends who I was
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  Speaker 1: with this weekend, his name's Rob Bailey. Love Rob's music.
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  Speaker 1: One of his songs says, look at yourself in the
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  Speaker 1: mirror and tell me who you are. Most people are
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  Speaker 1: not willing to do that. Most people have never done that.
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  Speaker 1: But when you do that, when you go through this
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  Speaker 1: actual exercise, you find out who you really are and
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  Speaker 1: every single decision becomes crystal clear and you make it
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  Speaker 1: at the drop of a hat. Now, I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: I don't make mistakes because I make tons of mistakes.
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  Speaker 1: But in my process of decision making, I make a
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  Speaker 1: mistake and then I fix it as soon as I can.
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  Speaker 1: So I make mistake, I fix it. I fail, I
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  Speaker 1: fix it. I make mistake, I fix it. Rather than
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  Speaker 1: a drawn out process that takes a normal person 30 days,
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  Speaker 1: it takes me 30 minutes. That's how I get to
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  Speaker 1: where I want to be and that's how I build
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  Speaker 1: what I want to build. And your ethos is only
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  Speaker 1: built on a very simple principle of do I believe
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  Speaker 1: in God or don't I? Because I can't answer that
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  Speaker 1: question if I don't know where I stand. And again,
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  Speaker 1: I'm okay with any man or woman who is off
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  Speaker 1: of the fence and says I do not believe in
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  Speaker 1: God or I 100% believe in God. I'm not okay
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  Speaker 1: with those people that live right there on the fence.
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  Speaker 1: Even Christ said, I hate lukewarm. I will spit that
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  Speaker 1: out of my mouth. I either want you cold or
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  Speaker 1: I want you hot. And that's the difference for people
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  Speaker 1: to succeed is finding out who they are. Find out
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  Speaker 1: what your core values are. Find out what you believe.
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  Speaker 1: Find out what your ethos is. Your ethos is your
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  Speaker 1: guiding belief and it's the guiding belief that allows you
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  Speaker 1: to make decisions. You are the sum total of your thoughts.
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  Speaker 1: If I wish to change the sum total of you,
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  Speaker 1: I must change your thoughts. Well, how do I do that?
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  Speaker 1: I force you into the decision-making process and allow you
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  Speaker 1: to do it and make it much quicker because you
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  Speaker 1: know who you are. That's how you change.
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  Speaker 2: For people that are on the fence, and I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if you were ever there, what is your advice
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  Speaker 2: to get off?
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  Speaker 1: Pertaining to God? Yeah. This is a really, really simple one,
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  Speaker 1: and this one's probably not going to sit well with
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people because it takes a lot of context,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm not going to give a lot of context.
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  Speaker 1: In my faith... there's a scripture that I love and
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  Speaker 1: it's a young man, his name's Enos. And he says,
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  Speaker 1: I went into the wilderness with my father for hunting.
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  Speaker 1: And my dad had taught me all of these things
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  Speaker 1: about God. He taught me all of these things about
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  Speaker 1: the life, you know, eternal life, all that stuff. And
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  Speaker 1: I didn't really believe it. So I went out into
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  Speaker 1: the forest and I, he says a very specific word.
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  Speaker 1: I knelt down and I wrestled with God. He didn't
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  Speaker 1: say I prayed. He didn't say I argued. He didn't
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  Speaker 1: say I had a conversation. He said I wrestled. Now,
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  Speaker 1: in high school, I wrestled. I played a ton of sports.
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  Speaker 1: If you've ever wrestled, there isn't anything physically harder than wrestling.
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  Speaker 1: There just isn't. You go all out for three minutes,
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  Speaker 1: three rounds, or five rounds. It's not easy. The reason
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  Speaker 1: Enos said wrestle is because it will be the hardest
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  Speaker 1: thing you physically, mentally, and spiritually have ever done. So
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  Speaker 1: for those people who are on that fence... You know
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  Speaker 1: what my challenge would be? You need to wrestle with God.
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  Speaker 1: And I'll tell you this. And again, this is where
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  Speaker 1: it offends people. Like when I wrestle with God, it's
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  Speaker 1: not nice. I don't hold punches. Enos said he wrestled
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  Speaker 1: with God for a full day. And then at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the day, like that's a long time. Most
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  Speaker 1: people can't sit down and pray for 10 minutes, let
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  Speaker 1: alone wrestle for a night. If you want to find
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  Speaker 1: out who God is or if he exists or if
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't, here would be the challenge. Go wrestle with him.
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  Speaker 1: Really wrestle with him. Take the time, put in the energy,
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  Speaker 1: put in everything you have. And here's the best, this
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  Speaker 1: is the best promise. You either get an answer or
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  Speaker 1: you don't. And then the best part is, is one
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  Speaker 1: day if there is a God and you never got
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  Speaker 1: an answer and you stand in front of him and
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  Speaker 1: you go, you know what? I didn't believe in you.
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  Speaker 1: You know why I didn't believe in you? Because I
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  Speaker 1: put in the time and energy to wrestle with you
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  Speaker 1: and I got nothing. I got nothing. And so I
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  Speaker 1: didn't believe in you. And I guarantee you that day,
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  Speaker 1: God's going to say, yeah, I totally understand that. If
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  Speaker 1: you didn't get anything and you put in the time
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  Speaker 1: and energy and I didn't answer you, I understand why
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  Speaker 1: you didn't believe in me. Now, I don't believe that.
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  Speaker 1: I think every man and woman that puts themselves in
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  Speaker 1: a position to really wrestle with God, and by the way,
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  Speaker 1: wrestling with God, it's not nice. It's not filled with
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  Speaker 1: a little emotion. It's a lot. You're screaming and yelling.
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  Speaker 1: You're doing everything you have and you're putting it all
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  Speaker 1: out there and you're asking in return that you get
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  Speaker 1: something back that allows you to grow in that faith.
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  Speaker 1: So for those people who are on the fence, which
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  Speaker 1: is the majority of people, You know what I say?
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  Speaker 1: You just haven't put in the time and the energy
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  Speaker 1: to wrestle with that maker. And here's the best part.
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  Speaker 1: If there is a God, he's obviously perfect and he
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  Speaker 1: obviously has the truth of all things. Not just the
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  Speaker 1: truth of things pertaining to the gospel, not just the
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  Speaker 1: truth of things pertaining to that which you think is right.
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  Speaker 1: the truth of everything. So if I build a business,
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  Speaker 1: if I build a family, if I build leadership, if
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  Speaker 1: I build anything, I can literally go to that source
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  Speaker 1: who's the truth of everything and get the things that
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  Speaker 1: I need to do that. It's not just, hey, pray
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  Speaker 1: and help me figure out this or figure out that.
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  Speaker 1: Put your pride down. Like right now, dude, when I
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  Speaker 1: have issues pertaining to anything, I'm having conversations with the
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  Speaker 1: man who has the truth of everything. I'm asking stupid questions.
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  Speaker 1: That most people say, why are you praying about that?
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  Speaker 1: Because I need to know the answer. And that's the
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  Speaker 1: only one that I have that gives me the answer.
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  Speaker 1: And everything I build, my family, my relationships, my businesses,
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  Speaker 1: everything goes all the way back to the fact that
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: I know there's a God. I know he answers me.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: I know he's the truth of everything. And I want
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: to go to the truth as much as I can
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: to get the truth so I can make the decisions
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: I need to make. That's how you do it. I
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: love that.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: One of my favorite parts about The Limitless Society is
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: the entire premise of it. And you say regularly, which is,
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: if there is a God, then you are his child.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: And that makes you there his heir. And you literally
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: have no limit. And for me, that's something that rings true.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: And I think about the hourglass and it's already changing
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: my life. And so I'd like to, again, invite people
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: to think about that. And whether or not you get
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: off the freaking fence. And hopefully if you get to
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: the other side, and I'm not gonna judge you either
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: way either, but if you find out that God is
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: real after you've wrestled with him, please understand who you
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: are and that you can do anything. And I love
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: that that's what you do. That's a part of your ethos, right?
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the premise on which everything I build. You know,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: it's so easy to say that we're limitless and everybody's like,
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: what does that really mean? It's almost become cliche. Yeah. Movies. Yeah.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: It's like, what does that really mean? But the truth is,
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: is that we really are limitless. And I love this explanation.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: You know, I have a helicopter. In the 1800s, some
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: crazy son of a decided he wanted to fly with birds.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: And everybody around him was like, you're stupid. You're crazy.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: We don't even have automobiles. And you're talking about flying
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: with birds. And at some point from the 1800s to today,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: I get the opportunity to jump in a helicopter with
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: my family and go fly with birds because he didn't
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: believe in limitations and he never gave up on that.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: And because of him, we have ultimately created what we
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: have now, which is I get to go fly with birds.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: I get to literally go sit in the air because
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: he at some point believed like, I know this is delusional.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: I know it's crazy, but I just don't see a limitation.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: And I think that we can make it happen. The
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: truth is, is nothing is without reach. It's just time
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: to reach it. And maybe that's what we have to accept.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Maybe we just say, ah, it's not that I can't
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: do it. It's that I'm not going to put in
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: enough time to do it.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: And that's a different conversation. Is it impossible? No, it's
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: not impossible. But it's going to take me more time
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: than I'm willing to put in. You know, just like
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: the guy in the 1800s, he probably never saw a
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: flying helicopter. Yeah. But because of him and the time
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: that has passed since then, we now have the opportunity
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: to fly with birds. The truth is, is like you said,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: if God's real... and he's our father, and we're his heir,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: and he's perfect, that means we're heir to him, and
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: that means that we have the ability to do everything
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: that he can do, which is everything. There is no
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: impossible anymore. That's why I created the name Limitless Society.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: And the truth is, dude, I will spend the rest
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: of my life trying to adequately portray to people, you
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: have the ability to accomplish anything you want to accomplish,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: but you have to first comprehend and conceive that it's possible.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Once you do that, once the mind can actually comprehend
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: it and conceive it, then you can go and achieve it.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: And if all I do for the rest of my
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: life is just convince people to go after it and
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: believe that it's possible, I will feel fulfilled. I don't
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: have all the answers. I just know that the ultimate
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: answer is that there's nothing that is without reach and
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: nothing is impossible. There is no limit except for the
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: limit you put in your own mind. But if I
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: build the premise that there are no limits, I start
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: to begin to rework everything I've ever believed. And that's
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: when real happens. That's when real success happens, which is
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: a beautiful thing.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: And you're not just seeing it in your own life,
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: but you're seeing it time and time again with everyone
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: that you're working with. And that becomes quite a snowball effect.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Prioritize your life, kind of where it all came from.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: I was literally in this moment of my life where
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: I was trying to figure out, I knew that I
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: wanted to do certain things. was kind of in a
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: holding pattern and I got on my knees and I
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: prayed and I was just like help me find a
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: way and it wasn't much longer I bumped into a
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: neighbor of mine and I had heard somewhere that he
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: had an experience I didn't know really what it was
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: something smacked me harder than you can imagine it said
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: you need to help him share his story I was like, okay,
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: this is going to be awkward, but if I don't
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: follow that, I'm going to regret it for the rest
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: of my life. So I just went up to him
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: and was like, hey, I have a studio. I'd like
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: to help you share your story, whatever the heck that is.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: And he was like, okay, let me talk to my
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: wife about it. And then what happened after that is
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: still kind of just blows my mind. We threw it
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: up and it's one of the most viewed interviews in history.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: And it's a near-death experience. But what I found fascinating
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: is as you look through the comments, it has almost 50,000
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: comments on that video, you start seeing human nature. And
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: there are some trends and things that people commonly ask.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: One of the first ones is if there is a God,
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: why is there so much hate? And why... Why are
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: things so bad? Why are there natural disasters? So I
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: think that'd be an interesting one to discuss.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: You know, I actually love that conversation because that's, I think,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: what most people have. That's a question most people have.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Why do children die?
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it keeps them on the fence, right?
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Like if he really loves us, why does he
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: allow us to have that? And my first thing that
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: I would go back to is your whole belief in,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: is that next life better than this? And I think
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: it is. So if I was in a waiting room,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: I knew the next room was just the best place
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: in the whole world. Why would I be upset that
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: people left the waiting room? That would be my first thing.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Like you need to understand where people are going. Death
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: is not a bad thing. Death is a reward. And
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: most people don't look at death that way. And that's hard, right?
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Death is a reward. It's a reward away from all
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: the pain and suffering. But here's my answer to that.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: We came down here and we said, I want to
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: go down and gain experience. And in experience, I want
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: to learn and grow, right? And God said, okay. But
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: in experience and in free will, I'm giving you the
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: ability to do whatever you want to do, whatever that is.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I cannot take that from you. Most people have bad experiences.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: They were from other people's ability to make decisions that
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: God didn't step in, right? To say that God caused
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: something is to abnegate your own responsibility. Like to say, well,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: that happened because of God isn't really a fair conversation now.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: With that understanding, I go all the way back. And
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: this is where it gets really beautiful. You know, I've
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: struggled a lot with why did my dad die when
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I was 21? It's been something I've struggled with every
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: time I have a child, every great experience I have.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: I'm like, it's just really hard. I wish my dad
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: was here. But in understanding a really, really cool principle,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: it's allowed me to accept the truth of that question.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: And the question isn't why does God allow it, but
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: why did I choose it? So every single one of
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: us at some point in our lives before we came here,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: we signed up for this stuff. We sat with God
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: and he said, you're going to go down and there's
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: going to be despair and fear and pain and sorrow.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: And we probably asked the question like, well, why, why
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: are we going down to that? And it was a
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: really simple answer. It was for your experience. Because in
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: experiences where you grow, it's where you learn. Think about
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: the hardest times of your life, the darkest moments in
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: your life. That's where you learned the most. The greatest
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: teacher is pain. So we said to God, okay, I
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: wanna learn and I wanna become like you and I
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: wanna grow and I wanna progress. And he goes, okay,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: but you must first experience. And then experience, it's gonna
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: be hard, it's gonna be painful, it's gonna be sorrowful.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: I know, I still wanna go down and I wanna
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: be a part of it. And the most beautiful thing
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: that I've ever thought and or put together is every
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: one of us that go through the things that we
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: go through in life, we signed up for that. My
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: dad signed up. And said, you know what? I'm going
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: to die at 47. And in my death, I will
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: teach my children things I never could have taught them.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: So my question could be, God, why did you allow it?
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: And God would say, I didn't. Your father signed up
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: for that because he knew that's what he needed to
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: do to teach you. Why do children die? Those children
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: signed up for that. so that they could teach what
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: needed to be taught to those around them. When do
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: you see the most beautiful experiences in life? It's when
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: people come together during tragedy. When do you learn the most?
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: It's in the deepest and darkest painful moments of your life.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: If we take all of that out, what experience do
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: we have? We all know that there's happiness and there's sorrow,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: and they are completely opposite. I cannot feel happiness without
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: knowing what sorrow is. I can't do it. So God said,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: how much do you want to learn? I said, I
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: want to learn everything. Well, then you're going to have
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: to experience the most low of lows and the most
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: painful of painful so that you know what the high
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: of highs is and the happiness is. And he signed
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: up to do this and he signed up to do
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: this and he signed up to do that so that
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: you could learn. And if I look at life differently
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: and I say, you know what, dude, this is about experience.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: I'm no longer asking the question, why does God allow it? Rather,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: I'm grateful to God for giving it to me and
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: allowing it to happen for me and teaching me. The
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: man I am today would never have been that man
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: if my father was still alive. It wouldn't have happened.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know where I would be. I don't. I
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: don't know what kind of leader I would be. I
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: don't know how much money I would make, but I
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: know for sure if he was still here, it wouldn't
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: have been the same experiences and the same knowledge that
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I gained when he died. And if I start looking
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: at that way, and this is my favorite thing in
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: the whole world, My entire mindset shifts from why me
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: to thank you so much to doing this for me.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Because life is for me. It's not happening to me.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: And when I look at it that way, my prayers
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: are different. When I go through sorrow and pain and
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: anguish and I lose people and people are suffering, I
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: now say, you know what, Heavenly Father? I'm just so
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: grateful that you're allowing this so that I can learn
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: what I need to learn. And I'm grateful for all
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: of it. You know, if you go all the way
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: back into the New Testament and we talk about the
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: life of Christ and we talk about his suffering in
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: the Garden of Gethsemane and on the cross and all
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: the crazy things he went through, so many people would say, why?
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: And I don't say why. I say, you know what
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: I'm so grateful for? I'm so grateful for a God
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: in heaven that watched his child go through that, who
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: could have stepped in at any moment and taken that.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: But then we wouldn't have had what we had. It
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have happened. So my conversation now changes from why
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: do you allow that to happen to thank you for
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: allowing it to happen for the betterment of me and
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: my life. Because everything is different. And without this, I
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be where I am. I would never have grown
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: to what I wanted to grow to. I signed up
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: to grow a long time ago. So to say I
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: signed up to grow and then say, well, why am
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: I going through so many hard things that make me
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: grow is not a fair question anymore. Rather, the question
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: or the statement is, I'm just really, really grateful that
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: I get to go through that. And that's a hard conversation.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: You know, we have a kid that we're working with
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: right now who got diagnosed with cancer. He's eight years old.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: And the conversation for me is no longer like, God,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: why are you letting this happen to this child? But rather,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: what am I supposed to learn? And thank you so
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: much for this opportunity of growth. And that changes everything.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: It's so starkly different from where I feel like the
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: entire world is going, which is entitlement and complaining and
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: getting pissed off at everything.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: The smallest offense your life is over. It's just to
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: be grateful for your struggle.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: It's like sitting in a classroom that you've been taught
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: and then saying, hey, I want to learn this. I
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: need to grow. I need to become whatever knowledgeable. And
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: then the teacher handing you the test, which is hard
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: as and you going, why, why? Well, you said you
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: wanted to grow. You said you wanted to learn. This
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: is how we do it. You don't get to ask
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: why anymore. You should be grateful for the test because
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: that's the end goal here. And the thing is, if
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: I asked every human being, do you want to be better?
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Do you want to progress? Every single one of them
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: would say yes. But that same human being, when they're
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: faced with something that allows them to grow, what do
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: they do? Why me? Why is this happening? Well, because
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: at some point you said you wanted to grow. You
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: wanted to learn. And this is how you do it.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Stop asking why me and start being grateful for every opportunity,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: every circumstance, every instance that allows you to grow. And dude,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: it changes everything. Because again, and this is such a
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: cliche saying, your mindset is everything. So then my question
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: would be for those people, what if you were just
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: grateful for all of it? What if instead of waking
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: up and saying, I'm grateful for my beautiful family, I'm
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: grateful for all this money, I'm grateful for all these successes.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: What if I'm grateful for the pain and I'm grateful
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: for the sorrow and I'm grateful that my father passed away.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: I'm grateful for every circumstance that is allowing me to grow,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: to become better. Because at some point we're going to
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: stand before God and we're going to look back at
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: this and he's going to go, that was hard, right?
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: You go, yeah. And he's going to say, did you learn?
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: And you say, yeah, I learned so much. And he's like,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: I'm so grateful for where you are today. And you're
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: going to say, I'm so grateful for it too. Thank
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: you so much for that because I'm different today. I'm progressed.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: I'm closer to becoming like you. But that conversation can't
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: be had then. It needs to be had right now
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: because this life has only been given to us for
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: just a small moment. And in that life, we get
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: the opportunity to grow or not to grow. And the
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: people who are asking the question, why me? Why this?
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Why did God do that? They're not growing. Those who
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: are thankful for all of it are the ones who
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: are truly progressing and growing. And that's the most beautiful
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: thing about life.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: I love that you brought up the classroom because one
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: of my favorite things that I've taken from interviewing a
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: good number of people that have had near-death experiences, one
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: of the gentlemen, he says that his biggest takeaway is
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: that life is a school and it's the hardest school
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: for souls that exist.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: And that it.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Makes it more beautiful too, because you think, yeah, you
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: go to school, then you go home. Sometimes school sucks.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: So I love that you brought that up, the classroom,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: because that's one of my favorite ways to think about life.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: And I think if we can focus on that and
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: be grateful for everything, just like you said, it totally,
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: completely changes your life.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: And that's really just one small switch that people can make. Like,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: what if I was just grateful for all of it?
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: What if I was just grateful for all of it?
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: And in that gratitude, everything shifts. Instead of life happening
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: to me, life happens for me. And when it happens
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: for me, it means it progresses me. And I'm just
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: grateful for all of that. And that's a huge shift
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: that I wish more people would begin to fathom and
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: start doing.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much, man, for your time today. This
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: was beautiful. Appreciate it.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, man. I appreciate being on. Thank you.