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Episode 195 | MP5 · Corie Sheppard Podcast

• 0:21
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you now, right, I'm here to defend Terrence Team Terrence.
• 0:29
  Speaker 3: If you know you're defending a woman.
• 0:39
  Speaker 5: Skip the first half but say she will be reaching in a few hours, she and my baby.
• 0:44
  Speaker 5: Just let me not ignore her as well.
• 0:46
  Speaker 5: Pretty soon I will be picking you up.
• 0:49
  Speaker 5: In the meantime, love for her, I can't wait so much To a way and not leave her through.
• 0:54
  Speaker 5: Well, love us, I'm coming down me ear.
• 0:57
  Speaker 5: Knock, knock, knock.
• 0:58
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, when me, look me, see the dark open wide.
• 1:03
  Speaker 5: It's my girlfriend who step inside.
• 1:05
  Speaker 5: Terrence White, if you stay with your mother, you'll not catch me From time in.
• 1:09
  Speaker 5: I did really touch up the purple, but I don't love you like from time in.
• 1:32
  Speaker 5: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
• 1:36
  Speaker 6: Me sing sing.
• 1:37
  Speaker 5: I can see a man, a rasta man, talking About a issue, say that Christ's coming.
• 1:43
  Speaker 5: The rasta say if Christ's coming at the morning, I'll cut my naughty and I'll start praising.
• 1:49
  Speaker 5: What if we look to the rising of the sun and Selassie I decide to come and he has four.
• 1:57
  Speaker 5: Rasta children.
• 1:58
  Speaker 5: Say I have Rastan, you don't have none.
• 2:01
  Speaker 5: You got runtime in.
• 2:02
  Speaker 5: It's not where you're from, but it's where you are going.
• 2:03
  Speaker 2: RUN SON, you DON'T HAVE NONE.
• 2:04
  Speaker 2: You GOT RUN TIME IN.
• 2:04
  Speaker 2: It's NOT WHERE YOU'RE FROM, but IT'S WHERE YOU ARE CALLING.
• 2:07
  Speaker 2: Run TIME IN, you SAY, when YOU REACH HERE, missing WHAT YOU BE DOING, run.
• 2:15
  Speaker 5: TIME IN NO BEING NOBODY OUT HERE.
• 2:19
  Speaker 5: A FUNNY LIFE THAT YOU LIVING NOW.
• 2:21
  Speaker 5: Run TIME IN, woah, oh, oh, oh, ah.
• 2:24
  Speaker 5: You SING SAY that you're living out of time in.
• 2:25
  Speaker 5: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
• 2:26
  Speaker 5: The things they say.
• 2:27
  Speaker 5: The place that I now come back from, inna the country and me come down with a hard piece of coal.
• 2:33
  Speaker 5: All of me, brethren and them start surround me.
• 2:36
  Speaker 5: The Babylon and them start hearing about me.
• 2:39
  Speaker 5: The day the police and them decide to bust me, busting me out and they busting our rim.
• 2:46
  Speaker 5: The Babylon ask for the sense, the Babylonia, to let me down.
• 2:51
  Speaker 5: Smoke.
• 2:51
  Speaker 5: It already young and Runtime is on.
• 2:57
  Speaker 3: Turn to wife time and back.
• 2:58
  Speaker 3: Welcome to episode 195 of the Corey Shepard Podcast.
• 3:01
  Speaker 3: Every now and again you had to skip a hundred episodes on them and see if people are paying attention.
• 3:05
  Speaker 3: I got excited last week.
• 3:09
  Speaker 3: Thanks for pointing it out for me.
• 3:10
  Speaker 3: My problem is that I don't know how to go and change it.
• 3:12
  Speaker 3: So we're going from episode 294 to episode 195.
• 3:15
  Speaker 3: You cannot go wrong.
• 3:16
  Speaker 3: Can you Just stay close?
• 3:18
  Speaker 3: You can't go wrong.
• 3:18
  Speaker 3: Before I get into the culture, let me safeguard myself here, because what the culture?
• 3:23
  Speaker 3: Right, let me.
• 3:23
  Speaker 3: Let me, let me safeguard myself here.
• 3:24
  Speaker 3: Right, because what's not going to happen is I'm not going to end up in no whole set of problems.
• 3:27
  Speaker 3: This is from the desk of budu balkaran and associates attorneys at law, september 14th.
• 3:32
  Speaker 3: Attention to all members of the public, including me.
• 3:34
  Speaker 3: They say via social media, they all.
• 3:37
  Speaker 3: We act on behalf of mr terence ramsarup and his wife, renee budram ramsarup.
• 3:42
  Speaker 3: Mr ramsaroup is a serving member of the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service.
• 3:46
  Speaker 3: Thank you for your service, terrence.
• 3:47
  Speaker 3: Together, he and his wife, her parents, that three-year-old boy.
• 3:55
  Speaker 3: It has come to their attention that there is a particular video which is circulating on various social media platforms, which was so published without their authorization, explicit or otherwise, in which certain persons personal issues are ventilated ventilated is a good word, you're not like a lawyer.
• 4:11
  Speaker 3: They really ventilate a lot.
• 4:12
  Speaker 3: You take this opportunity to place members of the public unnoticed that the said video was filmed strictly for private usage.
• 4:19
  Speaker 3: You know they wouldn't put a letter saying the video, terrence and the Guilty, was for private usage.
• 4:26
  Speaker 3: It was for strictly private, you wouldn't be kidding.
• 4:28
  Speaker 3: The video was filmed strictly for private usage by our clients and its publication and the reproduction was not so authorized and, as such, we ask that you refrain from sharing the video via Facebook, tiktok and Instagram or any other social media platforms, as it has caused much distress.
• 4:44
  Speaker 3: The sharing caused the distress, which has caused much distress to our clients, as their images have been plastered across various forms of social media without their consent.
• 4:54
  Speaker 3: Not only social media, there are various forms of media.
• 4:56
  Speaker 3: We trust that you'll be so guided and look forward to your cooperation, as the continued sharing of said video only serves to exacerbate and inflame a sensitive issue which was meant to be treated privately in the first place.
• 5:09
  Speaker 3: Well, my plan was to get a little drop talking about how extravagant, but since they say don't play the thing.
• 5:16
  Speaker 3: I shall play none of it.
• 5:17
  Speaker 3: I just come to advise terrence.
• 5:19
  Speaker 3: Terrence, you need your own lawyer, all your lawyers, for the couple I could be your lawyer for today because, terrence, I like how Terrence went on.
• 5:26
  Speaker 3: If you don't know, right, that video went around the place this week.
• 5:29
  Speaker 3: You had to know that.
• 5:30
  Speaker 3: Anyway, you see that video, right?
• 5:32
  Speaker 3: Don't get Zachary asking me about the video.
• 5:34
  Speaker 3: Zachary trying to back me in a corner now Having me asking questions in front of his mother.
• 5:37
  Speaker 3: But the wife wrong, bad, shame.
• 5:41
  Speaker 3: Home.
• 5:42
  Speaker 3: Now I could talk my mind.
• 5:42
  Speaker 3: Your wife wrong, you're gonna see your foot, your foot retaining what before you tell me what you're saying to record.
• 5:47
  Speaker 3: My holy put out that thing here saying about viral video and taking the video and thing.
• 5:52
  Speaker 3: But she in the viral video saying how she have video at terence and all these kind of things.
• 5:57
  Speaker 3: So why terence, terence, I go right, I see this letter for you to tell you exactly how you're supposed to treat with matters like those, because she have video of you that, according to these attorneys.
• 6:08
  Speaker 3: I want to read and use some of them.
• 6:09
  Speaker 3: Words, right, so since me in study law, we go put together a word saying that there's a particular video of terence and shania that is circulating around your phone and it has been published without my authorization, explicit or otherwise, and and that certain personal issues are ventilated and we was ventilating each other, and so on.
• 6:28
  Speaker 3: I could put together a letter.
• 6:29
  Speaker 3: You know, we took this opportunity.
• 6:33
  Speaker 3: The video was filmed strictly for private and vice's usage.
• 6:37
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 6:38
  Speaker 3: We had to help Terrence, you know, listen, the whole world.
• 6:43
  Speaker 3: Come down on Terrence.
• 6:44
  Speaker 3: The next video I see come out is they pack all he clothes in a garbage bag.
• 6:51
  Speaker 3: They put it on the ground by the roadside.
• 6:54
  Speaker 3: They let him get out the place to come inside.
• 6:56
  Speaker 3: You'll do him that.
• 6:59
  Speaker 3: You'll bring Terrence hot.
• 7:02
  Speaker 3: I don't understand it.
• 7:02
  Speaker 3: We went quick to put out man and every little thing happened, but you want to put the man out.
• 7:06
  Speaker 3: The only thing I'll say I don't understand Terrence, right, terrence living for the streets.
• 7:10
  Speaker 3: Terrence is a serviceman too right.
• 7:12
  Speaker 3: So she done wrong.
• 7:13
  Speaker 3: From that standpoint.
• 7:13
  Speaker 3: All in my letter I could put out Madam, he married a serviceman.
• 7:17
  Speaker 3: What did you expect?
• 7:19
  Speaker 3: What he was looking at?
• 7:21
  Speaker 3: In other words, you went into this thing knowing fully well what to expect.
• 7:24
  Speaker 3: You keep half in your name.
• 7:26
  Speaker 3: You take the whole, the whole, amram Sarup.
• 7:28
  Speaker 3: You make sure you keep a boudra because you know where this was headed.
• 7:30
  Speaker 3: And listen.
• 7:31
  Speaker 3: Everybody else is to blame in this video except Terrence.
• 7:34
  Speaker 3: You know, because Terrence's father is a wicked man.
• 7:35
  Speaker 3: He's a wicked man If I, in this situation, and my son you know what mean I come and they say well, you're a baby on the way.
• 7:45
  Speaker 3: You come to make an announcement, you bring all of we together and put me in this gallery to make announcement, right, and you come to say terrence, have a baby on the way.
• 7:55
  Speaker 3: I say that's extravagant.
• 7:57
  Speaker 3: You know, keep in mind what he meaning, that the word extravagant is right, because he didn't say that's great news.
• 8:04
  Speaker 3: He didn't say you, it's great news.
• 8:05
  Speaker 3: He didn't say you know what I mean?
• 8:06
  Speaker 3: It's beautiful, it's wonderful.
• 8:08
  Speaker 3: And you audition to the.
• 8:09
  Speaker 3: He says it's lacking restraint.
• 8:11
  Speaker 3: Right, extravagant, the core of extravagant means it's lacking restraint and that's why when he says it's extravagant news, it's because he's shocked.
• 8:19
  Speaker 3: He's shocked that Terrence and his wife are still having relations.
• 8:22
  Speaker 3: He's like what.
• 8:27
  Speaker 3: He's still with you.
• 8:28
  Speaker 3: His father's shocked.
• 8:29
  Speaker 3: He said he's still with you and they have a little boy.
• 8:31
  Speaker 3: They have a little three-year-old boy.
• 8:35
  Speaker 3: It's so sad.
• 8:36
  Speaker 3: And this boy, the internet written in ink.
• 8:38
  Speaker 3: So all boot drama and them letters, it's of no purpose Because that's going to circulate and poor child, he's got to deal with this.
• 8:44
  Speaker 3: When that time comes, he and his little brother or sister to come right, but Terrence's father himself, she comes, she says her news, he says extravagant news, but the baby is not mine and I have video, Terrence.
• 8:55
  Speaker 3: I have video of you and the girl, yours, by the girl last night, yours.
• 8:57
  Speaker 3: I want to know how she gained Terrence.
• 9:00
  Speaker 3: You have to try and keep things under control.
• 9:03
  Speaker 3: How is she getting all this information and all these videos about you?
• 9:06
  Speaker 3: We are recording.
• 9:07
  Speaker 3: You have a two-piece with sides, right?
• 9:12
  Speaker 3: You like fries, you like coleslaw.
• 9:14
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 9:14
  Speaker 3: People like these things.
• 9:15
  Speaker 3: Churches are nice biscuits.
• 9:16
  Speaker 3: I know all of you want churches.
• 9:17
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 9:18
  Speaker 3: All of you clearly like churches biscuits.
• 9:20
  Speaker 3: When you have sides, don't make no video.
• 9:24
  Speaker 3: And then we making video and them guys.
• 9:25
  Speaker 3: It was vice, young people.
• 9:26
  Speaker 3: You know 23.
• 9:27
  Speaker 3: I suppose 23 is a different kind of vice being understand but, terrence father, sit down and watch this woman interrogate this man.
• 9:37
  Speaker 3: If terrence is a police, he father ex-police.
• 9:38
  Speaker 3: I make up my own story now.
• 9:40
  Speaker 3: He father, definitely an ex-police.
• 9:42
  Speaker 3: Me, no, terrence going to force.
• 9:43
  Speaker 3: But at no point in time.
• 9:45
  Speaker 3: If it's me and my son going through this, after about the third or fourth minute I say all right, all right, all right.
• 9:50
  Speaker 3: So there's where I call.
• 9:51
  Speaker 3: I say boy, terrence, let me go, boy, let me go from here, buddy in the family and all this embarrassing scene.
• 10:02
  Speaker 3: And I don't.
• 10:03
  Speaker 3: I don't understand the social media thing today.
• 10:06
  Speaker 3: I don't understand the constant need to record things.
• 10:08
  Speaker 3: They said they didn't put it out right.
• 10:10
  Speaker 3: According to budram and friends, they didn't put it out, so I don't know how it reached out, because it means she had to send it to somebody and once you make a video, you had to be, you had to be prepared for that video to become public.
• 10:23
  Speaker 3: This is just the world we're living in today.
• 10:25
  Speaker 3: But she wrong, she wrong, she wrong.
• 10:27
  Speaker 3: She had no right to confront Terrence like that.
• 10:29
  Speaker 3: This could be a private thing, only make, only sell a national news story.
• 10:34
  Speaker 3: And they've been doing a running calendar for the year, right?
• 10:37
  Speaker 3: If you remember, the calendar starts off with Lester Peltier, I believe, in January, and that make me realize how fast we reach September.
• 10:44
  Speaker 3: That's why I try to skip the 100 episodes, because it's here going faster than I thought.
• 10:49
  Speaker 3: It's like what we really doing here, what we really doing, how we reach September already.
• 10:53
  Speaker 3: But Terrence, take the cake for September because Terrence frees up completely.
• 10:58
  Speaker 3: Terrence, you's a policeman.
• 11:01
  Speaker 3: First thing.
• 11:01
  Speaker 3: First, the MP5 strap is where you come up with for the hickey on your neck.
• 11:05
  Speaker 3: That is impressive.
• 11:06
  Speaker 3: That's impressive.
• 11:06
  Speaker 3: I wrong them.
• 11:07
  Speaker 3: Applause for terrence.
• 11:08
  Speaker 3: Not just that you come up with the worst exclusive, but you get shit to buy.
• 11:12
  Speaker 3: That you know.
• 11:13
  Speaker 3: I mean the mp5 strap.
• 11:15
  Speaker 3: She buy that.
• 11:15
  Speaker 3: Now we have video and it comes like if he just he do the right thing because sometimes you listen to all what they know first before you start to lie, because the worst thing is to start to lie and then they start to confront you with evidence.
• 11:29
  Speaker 3: So you do the right thing to stay quiet.
• 11:31
  Speaker 3: But I only here to give Terrence.
• 11:34
  Speaker 3: Clearly don't listen to enough Kaizo and Calypso, so I come to give a few things today, right, a few in terms of Calypso and music for the episode.
• 11:42
  Speaker 3: I really focused on trying to help terrence.
• 11:46
  Speaker 3: You know I mean and and and and.
• 11:47
  Speaker 3: To show this, this woman wrong, have a barrage of horn tune with woman, this horn man.
• 11:53
  Speaker 3: We have to.
• 11:53
  Speaker 3: We have to get the balance.
• 11:54
  Speaker 3: We behind you know, fellas, or let us stay with me.
• 11:55
  Speaker 3: You know, we behind bad terrence just set you back 400 years.
• 12:00
  Speaker 3: So first I'm going to play a few songs here that could help Terrence out.
• 12:05
  Speaker 3: Terrence, you're slow on your feet.
• 12:07
  Speaker 3: You're a droitness of reflex.
• 12:08
  Speaker 3: It wants some work.
• 12:09
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 12:09
  Speaker 3: You have to work.
• 12:10
  Speaker 3: You have to do a little yoga.
• 12:11
  Speaker 3: What is doing the police?
• 12:12
  Speaker 3: Always Do like, keep training up to date.
• 12:14
  Speaker 3: You have to do a little mental gymnastics.
• 12:17
  Speaker 3: You can't just go brain dead when the thing come down.
• 12:20
  Speaker 3: A good partner of mine I talked about him in the last episode.
• 12:24
  Speaker 3: He said deny, deny and cry.
• 12:26
  Speaker 3: Deny, deny, then cry.
• 12:27
  Speaker 3: It's a serious matter.
• 12:28
  Speaker 3: You can't just be caught there.
• 12:31
  Speaker 3: You sit down and you freeze up now for the whole time and make yourself in a meme.
• 12:35
  Speaker 3: I would like to make the first Calypso available to Terrence.
• 12:39
  Speaker 3: I played it to the end Because we done bad and we had to help one another, fellas.
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: We had to stick together.
• 12:53
  Speaker 3: We can't let these women and them have the upper hand.
• 12:58
  Speaker 4: We had to stick together, thank you, maggie, darling Sugar dumpling, don't get so mad.
• 13:07
  Speaker 4: Please let me explain.
• 13:11
  Speaker 4: Doo doo, darling Sugar dumpling, don't get so mad.
• 13:20
  Speaker 4: Please let me explain.
• 13:24
  Speaker 4: I'm telling you the truth.
• 13:26
  Speaker 4: Oh man, please let me explain.
• 13:28
  Speaker 4: I'm telling you the truth.
• 13:29
  Speaker 4: If you see me with some woman, I don't want you to misunderstand.
• 13:32
  Speaker 4: Whatever you might see me, do know my love is true.
• 13:35
  Speaker 4: I'm not being unfaithful to you, woman.
• 13:43
  Speaker 4: You catch me within the bed.
• 13:45
  Speaker 4: Really didn't have no place to rest your head.
• 13:49
  Speaker 4: Business closed down.
• 13:50
  Speaker 4: She lost her work, disappointed, suffering from shock.
• 13:53
  Speaker 4: Only takes she home.
• 13:55
  Speaker 4: So to relax and cheer she up.
• 13:57
  Speaker 4: You know how them things does go.
• 14:00
  Speaker 4: I'm exhausted.
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: She said to me.
• 14:03
  Speaker 4: Sparrow are so tired and so sleepy.
• 14:08
  Speaker 4: Casually, she sat on the bed and asked me to massage her leg.
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: That's all.
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: That is all.
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: That is all.
• 14:18
  Speaker 4: Oh God, darling.
• 14:21
  Speaker 4: That is all, darling, that is all.
• 14:27
  Speaker 4: Troublemakers Will spread rumours For confusion.
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: Oh no, don't take them on.
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: You hear me, just be trusting and don't dig nothing.
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: Try and understand.
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: I'll never do you no wrong.
• 14:50
  Speaker 4: No wrong, baby Darling, you are never deceived.
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: There is no need to disbelieve.
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: Keep your trust and your faith in me and I promise you there'll be no infidelity.
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: The woman you saw me with the other night me and I promise you there'll be no infidelity.
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: The woman you saw me with the other night, she and she man, they just had a fight and I find it was really looking so bad.
• 15:19
  Speaker 4: The man kicked she close in the yard.
• 15:21
  Speaker 4: She sit down there and start to cry like she going mad.
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: She sit down there and start to cry like she going mad.
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: Oh Lord, the $2,000 I gave to she Was to buy a sandwich and a coffee.
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: Not another thing happened.
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: Me and this girl are in nothing.
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: That's all.
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: That is all.
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: That is all.
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: Oh God Darling.
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: That is all.
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: Oh God Darling, that is all.
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: Let nobody cause you to be jealous and confused.
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: Don't mind them and their news.
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: You hear me, baby.
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: Don't mind them and their news.
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: You hear me, baby, they want me to mash up so they could come and shock up.
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, when you refuse, we'll be like two fools Singing the blues, singing the blues.
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: I don't know why these old men don't stop Always trying to set me up, trying to give you the impression Something wrong with my darling.
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: Nothing ain't going on.
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: The girl I was with behind the lamppost Don't fix, because I was holding she close.
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: Well, she's a old thief from the east.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: It's somebody erring she teeth.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: I was only trying to hold she for the police.
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: Well, she's a old thief from in the east.
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: Is somebody hearing she thief?
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: I was only trying to hold she for the police, just doing my civic duty.
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: The reason me hand was in she bosom I was feeling to see if she had a gun.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: She didn't have no gun by she chest Is why I was searching under she dress.
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: That's all that is all that is all.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: Oh God, I wouldn't lie to you.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: Just because I am such a nice guy, someway, somehow it always Leave me in a row.
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: Helping people Seem to be my trouble.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: Oh, I see it now.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: But no more Will this be allowed.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: I'm putting down my foot.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: From now on, never help myself, take their troubles To someone else.
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: No more will this be allowed.
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: I put him down me foot.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: From now on, they go help meself, take their troubles to someone else.
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: It's too much canker and confusion and I know to meself I am an innocent man.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: I know they will tell you me.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: And mesleech Was seen making love on Maraca's beach.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: Well, the fact that she had on a bikini and was attacked by african bees, very bravely, I cover she with my whole body.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: I bravely rowing feet.
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: She locked my neck and she grabbed my hand.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: The woman pulled me down in the sand.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: I be stinging me on me behind.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: I couldn't help it.
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: I had to whine, that's all that is all that is all oh God.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: I would lie to you baby.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: It had a line in that song I'd always like right, the $2,000 I gave her she was to buy a sandwich and a coffee.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: And it makes so much sense because, Terrence, one of the rules in this thing is no deposits, no withdrawal.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: That's why these women are on the back foot no deposits, no withdrawal.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: And if them women take deposits, we have to mind them like normal.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: It's just that somebody in child would start to resemble you.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Deposit.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: We had to mine them like normal.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Somebody in child would start to resemble you.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: But if you make a deposit, you got to see how quick you can get them to withdraw.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: If you see what I'm saying, right, you can't be there.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: But the $2,000 to buy a sandwich and a coffee listen, it sounds so funny the first time I hear it in a song.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: But if you ever went by Paz Coffee next to fatty butter, it's too far from two thousand dollars for a sandwich and a coffee passes on the next level, expensive terence.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: Next thing we had to practice doing are talking to all the terrances of this world.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Right, you had to at some point after you, deny, deny and cry.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: You had to turn it back wrong and them.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: You had to try to blame them.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: I have a kaiso for that too, you know.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: Just make it.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: Say anything.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Them say they could have a much video if Arnold Roberts could say it's not he, who is we?
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: I don't know why.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: I don't know why I don't know why I don't know why I don't know why I don't know why I don't know why I don't know why I don't know why I don't know why I don't know why I don't know why I don't know why.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: I don't know why I don't know why.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: I don't know why.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: I don't know why I don't take.
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: I say plenty money.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: She say wait Money by the buckets because I am in love with my own ticket.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: Tells you she lie.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: You tell the outside woman lie and your wife, everybody lying on you.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: I have nothing to give, as in a budget.
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: She says she loves terror.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: I said, darling, you can't fool me, because no love without money.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: Men like Henry Ford and his budget have money that they could fill up the sea.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: You don't try to pull off my brain with life, you know.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: The woman gets a cross and they start a fight.
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: She say if you give money I don't take.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: I say plenty money.
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: She say, wait, money by the bucket.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: The cars, I love them, I won't take it.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: So don't think if I tell you something.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: Terrible they don't give me photo cards and all and she watching me straight in the eye.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: Oh Lord, that woman could lie she downright.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: The last time I met the end scene At Shaka Kobana, she said this place Belongs to me, sarah.
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: Do you love the scenery?
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: I said yes, honey, bun, I am proud and glad To know you're holding that portion of Finland.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: She said I can't bring the receipt to show.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: I bought it from an Indian In Miaro.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: I have my own courthouse, did you know?
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: I'm having my own tale tomorrow and I would never lie to you, dear.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: I'm the owner of Woodford Square, over markets, all is mine.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: You can get your books free anytime and I'm going to the moon in July.
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: Bye-bye, that woman could lie she downline.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: You know my name is Shania, you should have told me she's a liar.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Hey long time I ain't start up with um, with politics.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: You know when last we opened my episode with politics all the best to terrence and his wife budram and them.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Don't come for me, it's all jokes, you know.
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: I mean all fun and thing.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: That had a rough thing for our family to be going through, but it looked like they get the churches and everybody okay.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: The next thing too is sometimes when you see them video, you know how long it would happen.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: People don people done, make back and done living their life like normal and thing and you're revisiting old wounds.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: So best wishes to all of them, best wishes to Shania.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Shania, make a video done.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: It's one of the worst thing I ever see.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Terrence and all Terrence had to call that woman and say you'll take down that.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: But anytime you're making a video right and you're seeing like I had to tell my side of the story in public better, you take down that, don't, don't, don't bother to do it political.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: I was taking in over the course of last week.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: What happened last week, boy, what went on last week.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: A salute again and thanks for all the contributions that roy cape has made to our country, our musical landscape, kaiso, calypso, all young artists.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: You hear the humility while I'm recording this, the funeral going on.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: I want to salute again to ketura, who reached out to me via the youtube comments with her own stories about papi, which I intend to get on record someday.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: Is only when I start the recorder.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: I remember that the funeral going on now and I'm gonna be the best time to call her.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: But she already said she coming on and we have.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: We have things to do together.
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: But, um, the tributes and everything for roy cape are fitting and the he gained a, a, a send off there.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: That is fitting of a king, right, and he going up there to meet plenty kings and queens right, not just all stars, kings and queens like men, like blacks, and ricardo drew on, but he going up there to meet people like singing sandra, people like Singing Sandra, people like Stalin.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: So must be a day you could imagine what the music like singing and have no one, everything that was singing so sweet before and that saxophone adding the mix.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: There you can't go wrong.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: I saw some beautiful dedications being done by people like Destro, people like Michelle Henry, our saxophone player as well, several of them Boogzy Sharp talking about and Boogzy Sharp calling him Chucky.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: I wanted to hear more about that story too, like how we get the nickname Chucky.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: But salute, salute.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: Salute to Roy Cape, salute to the all-stars, condolences to the family as we go along, but during the course of this week as well.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: I I am not big into american politics.
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: I don't think I understand it enough and I'm not interested enough to to follow it.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: But my father and my brother is big followers of of american politics.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: Salute to them.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: But I I always catch a little glimpse of it.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: I and again, I'm skeptical of, of politicians and I'm skeptical of people who are descendants of people who kept people in trap for 400 years.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: So I don't really see one as different from the other.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: I remember watching Biden versus Trump and I keep telling my father like Biden can't win and Biden like senile.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: He's senile.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: It's clear.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: This man's not fully coherent and together he's a mess.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: So he can't win.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: There's nobody in their right mind who's going to elect him, even for fear of trump.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: But after I see that debate last week, I think I think he can only be debate from more twitter clips and them thing than anything else.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: Right, while it going on, I trying to see what is the highlights of the debate and them thing, I guess just for my own entertainment.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: I don't trust none of these politicians, especially american politicians, but, uh, I think trump's senile too.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Trump's senile like hell.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: When they put Kamala there, the Republicans should have taken that opportunity to move him and put somebody who's stable, because this man is unstable and senile like hell.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: The only reason he wasn't seeing or me I wasn't seeing his senility before is because Biden was big.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: He was overshadowing Trump, but he's clearly senile.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: He's not listening to handlers or preparing.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: He gets so flustered in that debate and talks about immigrants.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: It's me and you talking about the Caribbean people going there to eat dog and cat and things.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: He's just like me.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: I'm watching little Twitter clips and forming an opinion.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: He's watching little Twitter clips too, because there was a thing with somebody who had eight cats and that kind of thing.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: But he's a yankee.
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: All of a sudden, the haitian and all of we getting the blame.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: All caribbean people reaching that man say abortion is all up to the nine month after the nine month, I would.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: I would think that there's an execution, nine, something like this, abortion, you know, I mean it's like, I mean what is happening, what is going on over there?
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: He not fully in control of what coming out of his mouth, like there's no filter, nothing.
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: There are a few people I look at on instagram, right, older couples.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: One is an italian older couple and you know, old italian, like when you watch the Godfather he say the old man is talk like that and he and his wife listen, every clip them have is two of them cussing out one another.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Them they married for like forever, like how Terrence and his wife could be.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Them ain't leaving one another.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: But I don't know if them like one another in that house.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Them looking and then they have a next one too.
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: A them looking and then it have a next one took white, a white older couple, old people, I talk modern looking like they're 80s, the the woman in a wheelchair I believe either the man or the woman in the wheelchair and it's cuss out them.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: Them listen, that man can't stand that woman and she can't stand him.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Like the trend taking it and making it into instagram thing because they didn't leave in one another.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: It's one of the differences with the long time relationships versus today.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: Right, long time and maybe it's lack of options and all them thing.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: Right, this is before instagram and dms.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: It's easy to get somebody new.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Long time, I guess it.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: You know, I mean when you're in a limited to your own community and them kind of thing.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: But I think it's the do thing discreetly, neither like writing princess tongue, but no, I don't think couples going through the kind of things that couples went through before, because I mean, although we have a story in we family about um, a terran situation right where you find out later when you have a brother or you have a brand new cousin, you have a brand new cousin, but he's 27 years old, a big, brand new, new brand or funeral days, find it out a lot when you see funeral and think I'm answer boy, you know, I think that uncle's one, so I'm a father and all families have things like that.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: But the longtime family had a tendency to to, or the marriage, you know, I mean it had a tendency to stay together.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: When you look at the rates at which people divorce now, people ain't sticking through no infidelity and no financial problems and no, I was going to say abuse, but you shouldn't stick through that right.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: But people stick through a lot of things before and rally and figure out a way to make the relationship work, you know.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: And now you don't see much of that and maybe it's a positive thing.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: And maybe it's a positive thing because I have some beliefs around the idea of marriage right Outside of.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: I'm not the most religious person at all, but I feel like the idea behind marriage is steeped in ownership, and this idea that a man own a woman right is what is at the core of this institution that we call marriage.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Even if you look at the vows, the honor and obey, and them vows used to go one way, like the vows to honor and obey and them vows used to go one way, like the woman had to honor and obey and succumb, or what is.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Was it where these new youths like to use now, if a woman submissive and all these kind of things is, is it was really designed to say that when I married you, uh, you are mine, I own you.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: You don't own me because I for the streets but I own you, and I think women the rich because I'm for the streets but I own you and I think women it reaches a tipping point.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: Women ain't going through that.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: No more Women at a point now where they're making their own money.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: They have their own friend groups, they have their own.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: You know they're not beholden.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Is that a word To a man where all my family now become your family?
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: Your family is my only family and your friends is my only friends, and your money is my only money and your car.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: Them days done, them days done, and I think that is for the better.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: So you find that people, people, people getting out of it, people, not people not trying to stick and hold on to marriage, or you don't have to, or plenty discussion happening home.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Where people is it?
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: Hey, listen, just be discreet, right?
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: Just be discreet, right, just be discreet.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: No embarrassment, no deposits, no withdrawals, no embarrassment, no set of public scandal and them kind of thing.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: And we could be good, we could rally through and make this, make it okay enough, make it okay enough, you know.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: But back to Trump.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: I didn't even know how I read so far from his story.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Trump is senile and this man needs to go.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: They need to replace the finer, youthful candidate.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: But I guess it's too late for that now, because my take was that Biden couldn't beat Trump.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: Now, in the opposite direction, kamala, kamala, whatever is the right pronunciation, she's going to win by a landslide.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: I'm still hearing people saying that Trump is the preferred candidate.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Again, win by a landslide.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: I'm still hearing people saying that trump is the preferred candidate.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Again, I do understand american politics enough, because I never thought trump could have won in the first place.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: So I don't know if I'm reading it right, but after that debate it really really looked bad.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: This man was all over the place.
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: He and he and he got.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: He can't see his way and I can't imagine him having to lead a country and meet with officials and things like hell.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: But domestic politics now they're seeing some moves being made right and I keep hearing rumors about this and any guardian I saw it here yesterday where it's a young is the next man to lead the pnm.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: With a question mark, right, not a statement.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: So let me read that real quick right.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: In the span of 10 and a half years, stuart young has moved from an established attorney lacking political experience working his way up the ladder to temporary opposition senator in 2014, junior minister in 2015, senior minister in 2018, and now the acting Prime Minister.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: Trinidad and Tobago prime minister trinidad and tobago.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: There's a belief in political circles and public discussions that mr minister young is favored to eventually replace prime minister dr keith rowley as political leader.
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: Now, regardless if you like, forget you.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: You like or dislike for the pnm uh, forget.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: You like or dislike for rowley, or you like or dislike for for for stuart young?
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: I feel about them the same way I feel about all politicians.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: I think that this is a positive move, at least so that we're not ending up in a country if there's more succession planning within, particularly the two major political parties, where and and term limits might be it, and I believe, like if you have term limits for at the prime ministerial level, we should have laws that govern how political parties should be formed, what they do, how they get funding, how they should operate, how they should have elections.
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: The our constitution should cover how political parties behave.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: Right, it's important because the political parties are the ones who looking to come into government.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: So if you don't structure properly how a political party behaves, it could lead to chaos in governance.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: One of these good days I would get my friend Kamala Rampasad, the silver, to come and talk a little bit about.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: She's the head of the corporate governance institution.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: I'm terrible at the names, you know, but she's head of our institution as the corporate governance right, as a sort of action group I would call it.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: She'll be better to explain it than me, but governance is an important thing in corporate leadership, right, because the way the company behaves as a whole, like when I hear Derek Chin come and say well, I don't know what my accountant was doing.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Listen, that is a governance issue.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: She will speak to it better than me.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: But clearly, the way the company is being governed, there's some gaps in it and they have experts like Kamala who could come and explain to you, okay, what you should put in place.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: We ourselves as a company, our company, my father and brother and everybody we're learning that as we go along too, because it goes from being a business where you have to do everything.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: When we was first doing marketing, I was putting up flag and banner and all them things myself going running, so get printing, bang it up, and now I don't do much of that at all is a very big difference and the focus of the company.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: Now, at this stage, we we nearly 20 years old as a company and we're realizing that we have a real governance issue, too big a gap between the ownership and the management and the leadership and the operation and so on.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: So it is.
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: It's not abnormal for businesses or operations or institutions to have issues with governance and you could get help where that's concerned, but one of the key things they'll tell you about in governance is succession planning, because the truth is that all of we I I end this episode all the time telling people listen, take your list of, because you don't know who you're talking to next week, you don't know if the same people that you're wrong today gonna be here.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: We not promise nothing, we not promise tomorrow.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: So god forbid, somebody closed their eye.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: Tomorrow, if you don't have a plan for who going to take your place, is it how place, how the structure will go on?
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: And again, I had to link it back to Terrence because, as a husband, I encourage you to set up a succession plan in case anything happens to you.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Try and pick the man who's going to run your household now in your place.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: You need to have a succession planning husband session.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: Right, kamla, go talk to me about that too.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: But I felt good when I saw this and I again, it is a article that is speculative.
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: At best, it is not anything coming out from the pnm saying this.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: But I would love to see political parties do this, where either we put term limits for the prime minister and follow it by saying parties have term limits.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: When you win a party election as a political leader, you have two terms.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: An election must be called every five years.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: This is how you vote.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: This is no arbitrary way of selecting people and them kind of thing.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: From the party level.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: Let me read on right.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: There are mixed views from within the party about the possibility of Stuart Young taking over Senior government, and opposition sources who spoke with Guardian Media on the condition of anonymity, agreed that Minister Young is a good, or at least a competent minister.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: The first government source called Young also the PNM chairman a useful asset, but feels he lacks the necessary empathetic connection with the ground at this time to make an effective political leader senior government.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: The senior government source also doubted whether young could inspire the country as a prime minister.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: Let me dissect them two things.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: Right, in terms of young's connection to the ground, uh, just from my completely externally looking and I tend to agree with that right I'm not sure how he connects with with the ground.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, apart from I feel like you're doing the connection with the grung is not absolutely necessary.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: If you have enough counselors and mps and so on who uh run, who very, very connected to the ground, they could go ahead and win their seats.
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: And we had to keep in mind that you're campaigning behind a balisier, right.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: So you have a certain percentage of people who will vote for you regardless.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: Uh, the ground has a tendency a lot of times to be split along political lines and and the lines that they call the base right.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: So if you're appealing to the ground in different constituencies, you will get the same votes that any.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: What the boss had said put a crap in a baliseta, them votes almost guaranteed.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: In terms of the swing voters or the uh, what I like to call the informed, undecided voter, I don't know that.
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: They're voting based call them the COP voter right, the COP voter not necessarily voting based on the leader's connection with the ground, but they're voting based on real issues and real policy that could carry the country forward, right?
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: So I'm not sure how much that will affect him and will only matter in the marginal seats, right.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: In terms of the empathetic connection, I guess that's a judgment call too, and I don't feel like I don't feel like he have a whole lot of that either.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: There was nobody better than that than Kamala Prasad Bisesa.
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: But the truth is, I don't really find Rolly have that empatheticetic connection with people.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: I don't know if you're describing him as that, uh, inspiring the people as a prime minister.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know one thing he'll say about Rowley.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: Right, he might say no, he disconnected on them things.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: But coming up through the ranks of the PNM, rowley, he's a grungs man, you know.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: I mean Rowley know the grung, especially in the west here.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: He know, he know the people, he know the streets, he's very, very connected to people, at least then, now might be a different story.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Uh, in terms of inspiring the country as a prime minister, I guess he's talked.
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: Well, you know, like when you look at camillan and and and trump, I always feel the figurehead of the party is less in control of what happened.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: They, they, they in the face of a machine is what you would call them, if you ask me.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: And I think a big part of the face of a machine is what you would call them, if you ask me.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: And I think a big part of the role of that person is to be charismatic and inspirational, and that would be your marketing.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: People could take care of that thing, or your marketing people could tell you what to say and what to wear and how to put across this message.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: Because when you do your manifesto, your plans for the country or your plans for the next five years, you're going gonna package that well and put that out on social media.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: So I feel like those are things that could be machined, you know, I mean he will have help with that.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: Going on to the article.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: Going back to the article, sorry, both the pnm and the unc are going to, are going to come across a leadership issue, but the choice of the next political leader, the pnm, will be a larger conversation than the choice of the next unc leader, as the pnm is currently in government.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: I don't agree with that at all.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: I think the, the choice of the or at least it should, the choice of who comes next for the pnm and the unc, should be a big conversation.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: I feel it's like the flip of a coin whether unc or pnm will win the next election.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: So it's in our best interest to pay particular attention to the party politics that are happening, the internal party politics, so we could see what we're likely to get over the next five years.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: And we're going into a period here now where the tout in 2026, 2027, 2028 has gone back into a gas boom or energy boom.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: Right, we need to have the right people in charge now as second senior government ministers government so spoke very highly a young describing him as an intelligent and full of integrity down the line.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: Would he make a great leader?
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: I think so because he's very driven and, like dr rolly, he cares a lot about his country.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: He's a patriot.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: Leadership position is not being discussed now because we have a leader.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: In the future, when there's a vacancy, I will not hesitate to follow stuart I.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: I also partly feel like, if I hope it'll come to that, I hope you could see a day where dr rowley in the near future say listen, while I healthy and strong and not senile like trump and biden, I want to hand this over.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: I want to, I want, I want you all, I want to put my support behind this guy and you'll take, let me take it from here, because you have somebody who younger, more vibrant let me see name is young, you know.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: Let me see where he ages, if he, if he age matching name, uh, still too young age.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: Son born the 9th of February.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: This man is a Aquarius.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: Give him a new what I voted for.
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: Stuart Young, born the 9th of February 1958.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: I had to do some math here.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: I thought he was my age.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: Stuart Young is looking young where we at now 2024 minus 1958 don't laugh at me 66, stuart Young is 66 years old.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: Nah, man, something, something ain't right with that.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: Somebody tell me I wrong about this.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: That.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: Not right that not right.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: Sorry, yeah, but I had a figure.
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: This all before olivia right?
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: 1975, age 49.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: That that couldn't be right.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: You see why wikipedia numbers, guys, are wikipedia pages is why it's all the time wikipedia is not a credible source.
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: So, at 49 years old, is going into election next year.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: I mean he might be running the country if he was to win an election.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: You're looking at from 2026 to 2030, 25 to 30, so he'll be over 50, 51.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: That's good age.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: That's good age.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: Youth is still connected enough to the history and the legacy and you know what I mean, mature enough and all that, but you're properly connected to what's happening today and what's going on.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: We could work on all the things we don't like about rowley in terms of your ability to communicate with people.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: I hope that all those things polish, but I hope to see a day where you don't have people holding on to the reins of power, like what biden was trying to do at the detriment of the party and, by extension, of the detriment of the country.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: Look how quick Kamala Harris come in place and take over the ratings and all that.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: And just by not seeing immigrants eating cat and dog, she going way ahead in the race and when there was breaks in the debate a little bit, now she calling for a debate.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: Same thing with Trump.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: You're standing in front there, you're not ready.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: The man say he have concepts of a plan.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: That's the kind of thing I used to say when me and do my homework in Fatima days.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: Fatima, when you see her class is 40 minutes long, I dig it in my bag for 40 minutes because I can't find the book.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: Me and doing her homework, no day.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: A matter of fact, when they ask about homework, die when I remember it, her homework.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: That's what he's trying doing better than me, but I like to see it and it's something that I would like to see from the UNC, because the UNC seems to be a party where it's holding on to the reins of power, even if the party get destroyed.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: Kamala Pasadwisa says she's seen her faction saying they don't want her again.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: She's getting older.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: She lost a whole bunch of elections and not care.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: And the people who, I was gonna say, propping her up, the people who supporting her, don't care either.
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: And you saw it with pandy at the time, kicking and screaming to go away from the and listen.
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: He became even more of a state's modern, even more of a national figure when he stepped aside from the party politics and was able to, unlike manning, able to enjoy his retirement and and get the flowers he deserved for being one of the greatest leaders that the country has ever seen.
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: So salute, salute to this again.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: The article is speculative, right, but I like the idea if, even for the sake of what succession planning means in national politics and I would hate to see our institution, as strong and as that study test of time like the UNC, go through stages where they can't move forward in their own way because you have a leader, maximum leader, who willing to hold on to power at the expense of the party and expense of the country.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: But again, we come here to advise Terrence right, first things must always.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: We must never lose the theme.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: Terrence right, first things must.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: We must never lose the theme.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: You know you, first things must always remain first and one of the things that you could do Terrence is no matter what somebody accuse you of like, just accuse them back of something like.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: This is the issue.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: You know, I said I'm gonna watch Trinidad play.
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: We talked about this last week.
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: We fire a man who we didn't like how he was playing and he think was too boring.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: And he playing Route 1 football and we look like Stoke City.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: And we fired a man when he used to win games and draw games.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Right, the last two games he played, he draw one at home against Grenada and he win one a way against one of the smaller countries.
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: We bring a man who's actually a ticker coach now, who lost big against Honduras which I am confident that Angus, he wasn't going there and getting four goals and then come against French Ghana and care score goals.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: So since he take over, trinidad never score.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: While Angus he was in charge, trinidad was scoring more goals than I see we scoring a long time and I find like the commentators are not sure what happened with, with with social media side of Trinidad football.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: Right, that's how a youth man I like to follow seem to be a Tobagonian youth by name of Scully loves football.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: I like to see youths involved in thing.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: Right, salute Scully.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: He had so much to say about Angus Eve getting fired with the 4-0 win.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: I see him talking about, well, like Mr Derrick King, and he's so respectful.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: He's called all the coaches, mr angus, even mr derrick king.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: I like the youth, but I see him talk about, uh, derrick king in a way where it's like he's being gentle.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: You know, we go in there and we get four.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: And mr derrick king, we play expressive football, we look good for a little while and we get four.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: And I understand the idea of giving him time because I mean it was his first game in charge.
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: He can make it four.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: But I wanted to hear his comments after we come at home and look lackluster against french guy and of all people, and and casco a goal for a whole game, 90 minutes.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: He can't get the ball in the net at all.
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: When they start the same show time there was accusing angus and not starting.
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: He started two games, no goals, not no knock on him, but I I would have liked to hear the social media commentators like Scully come and give me their opinion about that.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: Everybody just seemed to just accept we draw with French Guyana and move on.
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: If that was Angus, we would not hear the end of that.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: But anyway, just like these fellas and them in the TTFA, when you see side attacking you, right, we go there in Honduras and side attack.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: Sometimes it isn't too good to defend and when you defend, like Angus, he's lost your work.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: And sometimes when people attacking you Terrans, you must attack them back.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: Find something to accuse them of too.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: Pelta shot in the dark.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: You could say.
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: You have video too.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: Say something.
• 48:35
  Speaker 6: Listen, like you take me for.
• 48:37
  Speaker 6: Mickey Mouse.
• 48:37
  Speaker 6: The way you're bringing man in my house.
• 48:40
  Speaker 6: Oh man, you take me for Mickey Mouse.
• 48:42
  Speaker 6: The way you're bringing man in my house.
• 48:44
  Speaker 6: Look, I don't want to break your blasted jaw, I don't want to tangle with the law.
• 48:49
  Speaker 6: So you better have some respect for me and stop this nonsense entirely.
• 48:54
  Speaker 6: Every day, the different man you have warming up me, furniture, you introducing them as your cousin, your brother-in-law or your comfort.
• 49:03
  Speaker 6: So, before reaching the crazy house for the hangman cemetery, look, I want you to write all your family name on a piece of paper for me.
• 49:13
  Speaker 6: Well, let me tell you something, millie, I find you have too much man family and they always employ with the government.
• 49:28
  Speaker 6: They hide in the port of the regiment.
• 49:30
  Speaker 6: You must be saying to yourself you have me, so but it's in jail.
• 49:35
  Speaker 6: I want to go, go and that is all you could ever bet, why are you puncture your blasted job owners?
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: yet I want to know if it's only man family you could bring in here, how you never invite your tante, your nisha, your macuma and this person, this uncle, this company.
• 49:51
  Speaker 6: You're getting me past so deep.
• 49:53
  Speaker 6: Look, I want you to write all your family name On a piece of paper for me.
• 49:57
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, you're giving me cuckoo to eat and the food never tastes in sweet.
• 50:11
  Speaker 6: Your man, tanya, cook up with salt and steel, with no grease at all.
• 50:14
  Speaker 6: I keep ya in jail.
• 50:15
  Speaker 6: But dem man, when you say it's your family, when they reach home, you run it Like you're catching mal cause you're glad, and you're killing the biggest foul in the yard, taking down the pot from the fire before time Cause you can't wait, giving me the bottom of the bowl to eat and putting chicken leg inside the plate.
• 50:33
  Speaker 6: Look at, getting tired and disgusted.
• 50:36
  Speaker 6: I don't want to commit a felony, so I want you to write all your family name on a piece of paper.
• 50:42
  Speaker 6: For me, this family business is going too far.
• 50:53
  Speaker 6: Get a pen and piece of paper and then, man, when you're having your diary, write down the name one by one for me.
• 51:00
  Speaker 6: I am not a king, so give me a boot, but like you want to tie your hand to foot, playing a game with these different men, fly up high the longest rope of hell.
• 51:09
  Speaker 6: You're the only human I know.
• 51:11
  Speaker 6: All your family is man and you're always singing a song in my head you ain't have luck with a man.
• 51:18
  Speaker 6: Your family's sleeping on, missy Monfrey, and I have to sleep in the gallery, so I want you to write all your family name and present it to Zandole.
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: That is Kaisi, turn around to yourself.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: Building on what we talked about last week.
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: Right, we was talking last week about the schools and the school reopening issue.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: This is directly from the news there, right, by Dara Healy.
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: Dara Healy says what shall be the legacy we leave behind behind?
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: Will there be follies and fallacies to deceive their minds?
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: Will we give them tools so we could empower them, or will or let them be fooled for evil?
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: To devour them?
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: Them is we children and we have to build them.
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: Lyrics by a friend of the show, mr chuck, from the from the Generation Next.
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: She says in primary school I remember feeling that something was not quite right with how my school was set up, but at the time I didn't have the knowledge or the maturity to fully articulate my thoughts.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: High school revealed what the issues were.
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: Now I had my own desk.
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: Clean bathrooms with mirrors, grounds to walk.
• 52:29
  Speaker 3: We went to Prestige School.
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: That ain't easy.
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: Clean bathrooms with mirrors, grounds to walk.
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: We went to prestige school that ain't easy.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: Clean bathrooms with mirrors, grounds to walk, you know, play sports and benches where I could sit and relax under a tree with a book.
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: She went bishop so short.
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: I don't like bishops in print.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: Many years later, as we began to implement our arts-based programming schools, I realized that, by comparison, my primary school was pretty decent.
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: As for my high school, well, it was a paradise.
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: As we continue to have conversations about the kind of nation we want, the physical condition of schools should be integral to our self-examination.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: This week, news headlines focus on a few schools with problems ranging from structural issues to cleanliness and rat infestation.
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: No doubt the authorities responsible for these issues will take the necessary actions to rectify the situation.
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: However, it occurred to me that, although there's a vibrant national discussion about the reforming and decolonization of our education system, the ministry responsible for such transformation remains silent on any significant policy changes.
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: There's considerable research on the impact of physical work conditions on the productivity and even mental health of employees.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: An article by Harvard Business Review points out that the workplaces unwittingly shape our professional identities who we were, who we are and who we aspire to be as workers.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: Our identities become intertwined with our workspaces as we accumulate milestones, memories and life-shaping experiences in them.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: This association is similar when it comes to school environments.
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: Designers of institutions of learning need to consider not only the physical structure of a school, but also the location, the lighting, the ventilation, access to outdoors, even the type of furniture used.
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: These impact not just productivity but the mental well-being of children who will eventually use the buildings.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: I want to clap that in.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: I couldn't say it better.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: I was trying to say it last week but, dara, so you know when you go, bishops it better.
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: I have written previously about the fact that too many schools are crammed into our capital city and urban centers.
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: Apart from the reality that they are largely monuments to concrete, we we may want to consider that in 21st century this model no longer serves our education needs.
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: Our capital city, already fraught to challenges, becomes a nightmare of immovable traffic every morning and afternoon.
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: Again, are you picking up this boy in Fatima?
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: Picking him up and dropping him and listen in our time?
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: I hate to compare them to know right, but the amount of boys we used to just walk home from school.
• 55:01
  Speaker 3: We walk across Mukarapa Road, we walk through the cemetery, we walk up through St James, everybody going in a different direction.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: So you're walking with 10 men as you reach.
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: So by this corner, one man drop off, one man going along Circular Road for a taxi, and all of us used to walk.
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: We used to just walk out of school.
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: They had some boys who was getting picked up and things, but I tell you, no, it looked like every single child getting picked up in the hole by their own personal chauffeur, right?
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: You just Well listen, it's a different world and I'm not just talk more Fatima, keep in mind that on the stretch with Fatima on Mukurapo Road, you had to pass well, polly is bigger children but you're passing Kompri, what's Kompri's name now?
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: Kompri and Junior Sec, mukurapo East and Mukurapo West, mukurapo East and Mukurapo North, kompri and Junior Sec, right?
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: And then you're reaching Fatima there.
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: So you hear me, and if you, if you're coming from the next side, you're passing St Teresa's, coming down the road, I think on on Arpita, haven't you right?
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: They have a, have a school to um, is this a secret boy?
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: I can't remember the name of the school, but what, what they are describing here is, is spot on, spot on and is is major issues that we're talking about.
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: The thing designed for a world where most people are walking or traveling, and that kind of thing.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: It's not designed for all these cars that cause all this sort of traffic.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: Perhaps there seems to be little interest in overhauling the way we educate our children, because the focus is still largely on passing exams and moving up the levels of our education ladder.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: At its most basic, literacy is defined as the ability to read, write and do simple arithmetic.
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: However, educators have long recognized the need to move beyond this.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: In commemoration of international literacy they happen tomorrow, which was back then the un has chosen the theme promoting multilingual education.
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: Literacy for mutual understanding and peace.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: Global literacy now includes digital skills, understanding, sustainability, literature, history, the arts and what the un calls global citizenship.
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: Education for the future must provide citizens with the ability to engage in critical thinking and make connections between what they are learning and the contribution towards nation building.
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: These damn bishop grill really brightened up.
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: I ain't with Dara when Bishops are about as human, so the way she talk about the school is all hilarious.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: It's hilarious.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: So the article's so spot on, and my inability to articulate anything, because I like that what Dara talking about.
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: I have very basic literacy skills, right.
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: I can read, write and do simple, simple arithmetic.
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: I can put things in words, the way she put it, but we're not doing a good job preparing these children for the world that we want to create.
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: What we're preparing the children for is to put them out into a society that already sliding and in decline, uh, in high crime and high crime hotspots and gated communities.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: We're preparing people for exactly what we're saying we don't want is.
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: It is not good.
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: So let me.
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: Let me go over what she talked about here in terms of global literacy, right, digital skills, understanding, sustainability, literature, history, the arts and global citizenship.
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: When you put somebody out there with that, it will matter little if they get a one in english or one in maths or six ones and all them kind of things seven, eight and nine ones, because the people who get it seven, eight and nine ones a lot of them struggling to fit into society.
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: There's a lady I admire a lot by the name of something gadget.
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: Listen, I said, man, you know a research.
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: Anybody, anybody willing to come and do a do research for me.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: I need somebody here who can help me.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: My producer's studying hard.
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: He's going to school Shelly Ann Gadjada.
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: I was going to Hazel.
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: Let me tell you a fact I like her.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: If I remember right, she was a local scholarship winner, winner of an open scholarship, and she went all the way to do her PhD, right.
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: What I admire about her is that she's found her way, like I saw her the other day talking about somebody doubts her skill or something.
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: You know people on social media like to say she's not a real doctor or some kind of foolishness like that, right.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: So she listed out her accolades as well as showed a video of herself collecting her a phd on stage right.
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: And what I admire about her is she herself is talking about listen, I study so hard and he went and he do a law degree, but what she end up doing now is coaching women to start doing businesses, to find the purpose.
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: Basically, from what I see, the thing really gets a woman and, by the way, watch her lives and think it's just so relevant.
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: You know, I mean, and she's young, she'll be young compared to me, she's a young woman but doing so well and congratulations to her and everybody.
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: More and more women that I know from around and you know I mean they they subscribe to her and do her coaching programs online and so on.
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: And uh, she's back in trinidad now from where it seems working with women directly, because I saw one of her more recent posts say you know they say are too expensive for Trinidad, but she's here and she's working and she's making it work.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: You know I admire that.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: But what you tend to find a lot of times is that the people who do all the right things in school get all the ones and get all the A's.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: All the right things in school get all the ones and get all the a's.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: If they don't get to be a doctor, a lawyer or engineer, they start to become a little bit lost in society.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: I could tell you stories of men who I went new tongue boys and fatima with who was listen, no care how much you study, you can't beat them in a test.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: These boys bright, and they're not just brighter.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: I don't want to make it sound like them get some gift from god.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 3: Men work very hard and study very hard.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: I can't tell you the amount of them who went through well, from full mental breakdown to people who dealing with anxiety, imposter syndrome, depression, all the the whole works it the the education system, even the people who really really really successful in it and find a way, they're struggling like.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: I had a deal with my son now and uh, uh, he came to be a big boy early.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: Otherwise, come and tell all these stories about where he going through, this man getting older, his voice getting heavy.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: Me don't want to come and put his news out here because then he goes out to resent me, right, but one of the things I working on him with as a only child is I try and tell him brother, you're going to school, you had to make friends.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: You know, bro, you had to talk to people, your friends and them.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: That's how that more important in life, the education important, and the things you learn and the degrees you will do and the education you will get just through life and life experience, that good.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: But you also need to make friends and and and and be.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: You know, I mean be more, but your only child, right, so you're accustomed being to your parents.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: So this man going to school and very much to himself you don't know the man name next time is a struggle to get him, to get him there, and I'm confident that he will get there.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: But you find that our definition of education it's so narrow.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: I really like what dara put forward here because it has to start and of course, if, um, if Dara started her, mr Shark, you know she don't have me already.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: Right, as you like, I don't like everything you're going to say after that, right, but she did say my former high school should not represent a unique oasis in the city where bright little girls go.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: This should be a standard for all schools and not solely for the reasons of education.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: While we think about a flawed education system, more young people are being sucked into the life of gangs, drugs and crime.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: I was almost in tears reading last year and report on tnt, which highlights that half of gang members are aged 19 to 25 and another half over 25.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: Our children are in trouble and they urgently need us to transform a system that no longer serves them, as mr shack and others continuously warn them, is we children.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: We have to build them.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: We must and she did say today I honor roy cape, who mentored young people throughout his life play on humble genius, so much better articulated than I was trying to articulate last week.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: Right, but we must not narrow down this idea of brightness or doing good in school to one singular set of exams that we had to do.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: Who have the better memory do the best?
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: What a better memory do better than everybody else.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: It's not fair to people where the better memory do do do better than everybody else.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: It's not fair to people it making young people feel like there's failures from very small and then we expecting greatness of them all of a sudden when they transfer out of.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: Because for us in our time the jump was really form five to form six, because we was going into our gce set of exams, which was a different world.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: A different world in terms of how much preparation it'll do, how much work.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: A level of country is the hardest subject I ever do.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: I still ain't pass it.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: And then you're going into ue where you have a level of freedom and expected to be not just thinking critically but to have a level of freedom of expression that you just did not have.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: It was not reward, you was punished for that throughout your whole school life.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: And now you're going to a university system where you're expected to do that.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: I like how she ended on Roy Cape right.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: You know I could play that, mr Chakra, he's only a little more well enough.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: But I want to go back to something Keturah said in the comments last week.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: She said Uncle Roy told me so many stories of him and Stalin when they used to tour together for shows.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: They were best friends in real life and Stalin getting a stroke affected him a lot.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: Working with him and promoting the foundation was where I also witnessed how passionate he was about the music and his philanthropy.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: Uh, he was disappointed in the lack of support he got for the music school in the community project, as he truly believed there was a significant tool to curb crime.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: He always told me he was a little boy in town and it was music that saved him from a life of crime.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: So you were certain it would have done the same for so many other youths who didn't have any other positive influence in their life.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: But many people didn't see it the way he saw it and it broke his heart.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: It's an important thing to say, you know, because I remember it stood out to me when I looked at all the interviews with him, almost to the letter.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: You would see three things in roy cape interviews.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: When you read about him, right, one of the first things he would talk about is education and and he would talk about it in terms of learning to read music.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: I have len boogzy sharp and his tributes and any funeral today talking about imagine, boogzy, he's boogzy, say.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: When he meet chucky, culinary chucky right.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: When he meet chucky, he always used to tell him boy, boogzy is special, youzy.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: Say when he meet Chucky, culinary Chucky, right.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: He say when he meet Chucky, he always used to tell him boy, boogzy is special, you go do things on the pan that nobody else ain't gonna be able to do, nobody else gonna ever be able to do.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: But he always tell him boy, go and learn to read music.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: Now Go and learn, you know what I mean.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: It's almost like the audacity to tell a man like Boogsy that he had to go back to school to learn to read music.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: But he could see he appreciated the purpose of education.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: You always hear him talk about the orphanage as well and how music saved his life.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: I heard Destra talking about how her father or her grandfather, I think was somebody who Roy Cape used to go and listen playing right in a jazz band and he was one of the first people who lent him an instrument so he could go and learn and practice on them kind of thing.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: Because when you look at it right, think about somebody who poor and grown up in the orphanage.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: It's not like you have access to a saxophone, or is it a cheap instrument to buy or to learn to a saxophone, or is in your cheap instrument to buy or to have a saxophone?
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: They're collecting dust.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: It's not the hardest instrument to play, right, it's not, I mean, but like anything else, if you get out of it what you put into it and I ain't playing any kind of practice it take to get to play at any level, but it's.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: You could imagine in his time as a young man, it would not be easy for today and mother and father to go and buy that for you every time you have this trend or every new hobby they have and every new co-curricular activity they do me and you.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: So running, we buying piano for them, we buying this, we, maybe we treating them too nice that he talked about that and dexterous said that's what make him, even though he didn't want women in the band at the time he realized listen that some, this girl grandfather, do something for me.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: I had to do something for her to pay it forward, you know.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: So he always spoke about that idea of the education, the idea of the orphanage and how it would raise him and how it would save his life.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: But you hear him talking a lot about youth.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: Every time you hear him talking it's like the youth, the youth is the answer.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: So when you hear him talk about you, look into Bella's school, several the youths, the youths is the answer.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: So when you hear him talk about you, look into Bella's school, several people spoke about him.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: You're talking to them.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: You say come and see me and I'll pass through the school, you know.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: And you hear Michel Henry.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: And Michel Henry said Roy Cape gave him, gave her, sorry, one of his horns, one of his horns, his saxophone, which is that must be an amazing thing to have and I hope that I could find it with our museum somewhere, or all the different instruments he would have had over the years if he could find them in a museum somewhere.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: But if he saw what music did for him and he's seeing the part youth going down, he could see why he's so connected to youth and I want to thank Dara Healy.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: Somebody must know Dara and somebody must tell me what school Dara went, right, right, but I feel like my guess is wrong.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: I feel like it's something very Bishops-ish, right.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: I want to take a slice of Mr Shark here.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: Mr Shark, generation X.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: Listen, thank you.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: Oh, they've got to know the truth.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: Let's stop deceiving them.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 4: We must guard the cruise, cause we conceive in them.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 4: Yes, them is we children, and it's we have to build them.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: But you and your daughter Boy, the same old prospects.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: No wonder why the child.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: Fly the yarn over sex.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: She's just a victim Of the low standards.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: Transcription by CastingWords.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 4: The next generation, generation next.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 4: Secure the next generation, parents of this millennium.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: You claim that you're modern, so the traditions, the elders hand down, gone into oblivion.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: So is anything goes now With daddy and mom.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: Why Go to busy on Facebook, snapchat, whatsapp, twitter and Instagram.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: Lord, the things they adopted, I tell you, we who teach it when they pick up the corrupting, I tell you, we who preach it, oh, lord, yes, we love to say them, youngsters, and them no good when half are we misunderstood?
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 4: How to raise them up as we should?
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 4: Time to show the youth that we believe in them.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: They've got to know the truth.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: Let's stop deceiving them.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: We must guard the fruits.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 4: What we conceive in them, Lord, yes, them is we children.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: And it's free of the building.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: Generation makes the sun a-walking, but every week ten grand he collects.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: Generation makes the money nice, so you a-ask a question.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: Yet Generation makes.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 4: Still you're surprised when you hear the finding shot to death.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: Generation Lates Money likes.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: So you will ask some question.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: Yet Generation Lates.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: Still you're surprised when you hear the final shot to death.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 4: Generation Lates.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 4: For their sake, for our sake, lord, we've got to teach them about truth and right.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: Teach them about love and light.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 5: Teach them about trust and care.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: Teach them about God and pride.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: We've got to teach them about truth and right.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: Truth and right.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 4: I say this episode is serious.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: I want to move on to talk about a judge.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: Right, a judge is saying, with regard to the crime situation, that citizens must fight back.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: You know, and it sounds, it sounds a lot like it sounds a lot like a, a sentiment by a partner of mine who say you know, it's very easy for us to come and blame the government for the crime situation.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: Not just easy, but also very, very useless for the for us to come and talk about the government for the crime situation.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: Not just easy, but also very, very useless for the first to come and talk about the government and rowley responsible for crime.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: It's actually impressive in facebook comments how much things is get tied back to rowley's, like it's rowley fault and this doesn't.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: You know, but no one is telling me.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: Listen, citizens, because when you think of a community that's safe, right, the police and the security and the gated and all them things is make that is a level of safety, yes, but it's nothing more important than the people and the security and the gated and all them things is make that is a level of safety, yes, but it is nothing more important than the people in the community keeping one another safe by just looking out for one another, knowing your neighbors, knowing your neighbors, children, everybody playing together.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: People know people.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 3: Household people know people hours.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: I know your car, you know them, kind of things, so that we we keep an eye on one another.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: But before I get into that, right, I did come here for the sole purpose of giving Terrence advice and the last piece of advice I gave him was accuse she back of something, even if you had to make it up, even if you had to make it up.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 3: Next piece of advice I gave him is by a man I used to work at TSTT named Patrick.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 3: Right Now Patrick is an older man.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: I used to work Patrick, right.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 3: No, patrick is an older man, he's a weekly mail room and Patrick and them fellas there are plenty of my little old talk and them things come from them.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: Listen, funny, when you're working in a place where it's only man working, you hear some story and Patrick went through this.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: Patrick say he went through all the same stages I talk about.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: You know he denied, he cried, he freeze up, like like Terrence, he went through all kind of thing and he say the wife pack up she bag and he say well, go your way if you think you are your man and them two and all this kind of thing.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 3: Because as far as Terrence video come out I see a woman named she looking.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: I don't know the woman name, but the fella named Andy.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, andy, come and drop me to work yo.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: And they say girl, you are your man and them you like a man.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 3: And that boy, the woman hit Andy some hand.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: What a babababababab licks andy.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: Take off that video fast, though he make it to no sort of video and that kind of thing.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: I'm not suggesting that that's what terran should do, right, but you know so when, when I see thing like that, I'll give him a piece of advice.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: Because patrick say, after he accused she back, he quarreled, he cussed.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: He said, well, go your way.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: He said, boy, when I say go my way, she gone and she pick up her thing and she head by the gate.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 3: He say, but I run in front of the gate, I drop down on my knees, he say.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 3: I say horn me back, but don't leave me.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 3: Try that, terrence, try that make her beg Thank you.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 4: If you love me, tell me so you don't love me.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 4: Let me know.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 4: If we finish, let me go.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 4: But don't haunt me.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 4: You'll do haunt me.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: If you see a man you want, simply let me know he's wrong.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: So I'm talking rather blunt.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: You'll do haunt me.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 4: You'll do haunt, you'll do harm me.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 8: Tread to harm me.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 8: But, darling, do harm me.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 8: Tell the people you're wrong, but, darling, do harm me Walk over.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: Your harm me, but, darling, do harm me.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: Tell them it's coming, but, darling, do harm me.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: You can promise to bond me, but, darling, do harm me.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: From what I heard, me is I'm going to go home.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go home, I'm going to go home.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: I'm going to go home.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 4: I just make a big man cry, water running down your eyes, only asking, darling, why so don't Thank you, you warn me, but darling don't warn me, darling don't warn me.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 3: Darling, don't warn me.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: Kelvin Pope, you know the mighty duke, you know.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: If you don't know him, you know what I mean.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 3: People say I don't say the name of the song and things that man say threaten, warn me, but, darling, don't warn me.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: Let me talk about the judge now.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: The judge says citizens must fight back.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 3: This is from Carolyn Kisud.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: He said business-minded citizens should embrace entrepreneurship, think innovatively and explore new opportunities to invest in this country's economy without having fear of criminals.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: What are you talking about here, justice Frank Seeperside?
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: Are you talking about an ideal?
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: Are you saying this is what should happen or are you suggesting that this is what we do?
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: He said, delivering a sermon at Harvey's Thanksgiving service in Claxton Bay yesterday, justice Seapers had said citizens should not allow the fear of criminal activity to stymie their dreams.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: Do not give in to fear.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 3: Fight back, report, extortion and adopt all lawful measures to protect your businesses and your families.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: A couple of issues here, justice.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: Couple of shoes here.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: Couple of shoes here.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: The police, who you're telling us to report the extortion?
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: On right, the police is telling people that MP5 strap, get them hickey.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: I see, I see A lot of times when he what is he talking about?
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: What is he talking about?
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: What is he talking about?
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: He's talking about judge-level salaries.
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: I'm sure he's taking every lawful action that could protect his family, because one of the lawful things that could protect your family is having an FUL and making sure that you're licensed to carry so that if anybody should try to kick in your door you could answer back.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: But I see the same man again suing the state, trying to find out from earlier, trying to get answers.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: He say he must be told in writing why exactly his application for ful was denied.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: I go on the other day, right, let me tell you about the kind of chaos we deal with.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 3: Uh, where I live now is very hilly, right, I used to live in a place that was very flat and I get, I get to like to walk around the area, right, for exercise.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: I like to get my little 10 000 steps a day, you know, especially since I see jay-z and um and and jack dorsey them fellas have a little walking club and you know, I mean I like how they use them to walk every day.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 3: I say, boy, let me start a walk too and see if I could bounce up a billion it's not billionaires down here, like you know, multi millionaires.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: We found a walking club.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: Now we can walk and talk, but so I like to get my, but it's difficult to get the 10 000 steps in this area because I'm on a hill and no matter where I walk to, I must walk back home and it is a steep uphill.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: So I say you know what saturday I go in around the savannah I ain't talking all of it.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 3: Long time I ain't walk around a savannah and them kind of thing.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 3: Right when I go on to walk around the savannah there's traffic around the savannah because some man, when he's a roadblock apparently he don't want to stop in the roadblock bounce a police.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: Must he panic?
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: Bounce a next car and before the car could even stop he doesn't run or he can't run.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 3: Of course police deal with him, but apparently he's shot firing, and this is by the Savannah on a Saturday evening on Jönningham side, right Somewhere around there.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: Keep in mind that the food, the Savannah food court or whatsoever it is there.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: It's such a nice place.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: People just go and buy the little different foods and sit down and take in a lime with their family, cool their head for the next work week to come and all them things, and that is what we're dealing with here.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: So I like just the super sad idea.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: I mean it's a nice.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: I suppose it's a nice thing to say, but it does seem to be very realistic given what we're really facing as a society.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 3: I think most people, if not living in fear, I think people are very, very conscious of what is happening with the crime situation.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 3: And when we say all legal means to protect your family, one of the things that you're starting to see is people like myself considering not living in trinidad.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: No more.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: Who would never?
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 3: I don't want to not live here.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: That's a long route I take to that.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: I'll talk to dara.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: You know dara might be able to help me with sentence structure.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: I want to live in trinidad.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: I want to live down here right.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 3: Sentence structure I want to live in Trinidad.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: I want to live down here, right, and I don't want to be in a position where I had to go and live in our next country for fear of living down here.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: Oh, you remember we talked about the doubles people last couple of weeks where they abandoned their home country to go on to live abroad.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: They did what Justice Seaport's had said they went and followed their dreams and innovate and make the doubles and and work as entrepreneurs and them kind of thing.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: And when the extortion come, one of the things they want to do is pack up and leave with what they have, because it's such a difficult situation nobody wants to see.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: You know, I ain't want to bring up that, but you just put yourself in them position where your family threatened and them thing, you'll be considering leaving too.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 3: And if it stands to reason that extortion is likely to happen to people who take that risk to innovate and build a business and them kind of things, right, that means that your best and brightest, brightest minds are the ones that are at risk.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: So while I hear me and dara trying to say fix up these schools, but fix up the schools for who, if the best and brightest people go in and find a way abroad to live.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: So I appreciate just a super sad sentiment, but it feels like such, um, it feels like empty rhetoric to extent, because, like citizens must fight back.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: I mean part part of the part of the option.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 3: You know they say they have a flight or fright, fright or freeze or whatever it's called the response, the natural reaction to some kind of a threat.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 3: Uh, I understand what you're saying.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: He went on to say we had to be our brother's keeper and this kind of thing, and all that is well and good and all that is true.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 3: Right, I want to.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 3: I don't want to make it sound like I'm being dismissive of what you're saying, but we must also remember that a part of what people do, that fight, the people who choose not to fight go flight, and the more of them who flight is lesser we who wait at a fight, and it's a vicious cycle.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 3: So I want to encourage justice supersat as well.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: To look into his own profession, look into his own association.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: Never law association never judges us like look into them places and look into his own profession.
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: Look into his own association.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: Never law association never judges us like look into them places and look into the same police and so on, like some of these institutions.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: The same way, we're talking about remodeling and restructuring the way schools are done.
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: Uh, as mr shack say, for for the generation next, right, we're looking at the new generation and what we need, a new generation of police and judges and lawyers and so on.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: It's like the thing we're rinsing off.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 3: You know there's something they say rinse.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: Well, all our institutions in this country want rinsing.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 3: I want to go to another article here that I saw that I find to be quite sad.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 3: This is Newsday.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: It says brain drains is the economic price right.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: Karen Rose, 37, is leaving.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: The digital marketer, podcaster, blogger and Business Day columnist announced weeks ago his intention to relocate after being based in Trinidad and Tobago for a decade.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 3: Citing the ongoing foreign exchange situation and the crime crisis, he said I need an environment that fosters my growth.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 3: Thailand provides access to a thriving expat community.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: Uh, proximity to top tech regions and a cost of living that will give me more flexibility in building business.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 3: Mr rose is hardly the first person to emigrate.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: His reasons for doing so, however, shine fresh light on the long-standing yet rarely discussed issue of human capital flight or brain drain and its adverse impact on the on economic productivity.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: Uh, trinidad, nice.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 3: Guys are saying here a lot whenever the quality of life here is discussed our diverse landscape it's fun and flora, the warm, the beauty, culturally, people we are taught appreciated, especially in contrast to the harsher realities of life out there in the wider world.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 3: At the same time, we are a society that boasts about the achievements of Trinidad nationals who have left from us, like Nicki Minaj.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: From Nicki Minaj to Sue Trevor McDonald, relations landscape lagging behind the rest of the world.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 3: Salary negotiations still follow outdated rules.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: Basic protections against discrimination on the basis of gender, sexual orientation are never enforced or non-existent.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: It's little wonder people who are in a position to leave up to do so.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: There's a sense that we can reach our untold heights and thrive for my uh thrive after migrating abroad.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: Such individuals don't necessarily live under the illusion that life is easier in countries where they will face a different set of challenges.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: Rather, they wager that they will simply have a better chance of success, given their interests and skill sets and given stronger measures to combat things like nepotism and corruption, as well as more advanced systems that prioritize the ease of doing business.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: So this is something that you're seeing more and more right.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: Well, I remember talking about all in wayne, who would have been the founder of um we pay, and now karen rose, who?
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: Karen rose is a social media.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 3: I know him from social media right, talking about uh terrible digital marketing practices as companies.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: I used to just pray like he didn't come across nothing midweek.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: A half of the thing he used to talk about is things that we would do, and there's a certain um how to put this nicely.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: You see, when you're not in the position right, there's a certain arrogance that could come along with you not knowing, like knowing things in theory but not in practice.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: Let me put it like that, right, because he clearly knows a lot about digital marketing and what it takes to be a digital marketer, but what he would do, for instance, is put up, put up something, and they say, boy, this company, like you say, you know, yes, career is looking for digital marketing specialists and they're looking for all these different things, but the paints have made thousand dollars on it and lambaste the company, right?
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: I don't know if that was his sales pitch on how you would get work and that kind of thing, but again, it's really easy to criticize harshly when he was never any position, because I can tell you that when we advertise in for positions, a lot of times we don't know exactly what we want and what tends to happen is that we put all the thing based on just our google search, like we download what our digital marketer should be, or we come up with all the different things that we need, and it's when you put out the thing, when you, when you interview people, now you start realizing that, okay, we overshoot here, because a lot of business is, unfortunately, is trial and error.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 3: It's not.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: It's not perfection and I cannot call a consultant every time I have to post a job.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: I will never make money.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 3: Every time you have to post a job I have to call a marketing consultant, a HR consultant.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: You can't do it.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: So a lot of times you're trialing and erroring the thing.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 3: I used to just pray we don't come up on this thing.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: Maybe I should have prayed we come up on it so we could get more publicity.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: But a lot of times we advertise thing and we advertising and we say we'll pay six thousand and, in the pain, triple that to people because we realize the value somebody could bring on the different and we realize, hey, what we need here is a department, not necessarily a person or introductory level person.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 3: So you live and learn.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: And he was not very forgiving in his words because it's very, very harsh all the way into hard fella to digest Hard fella.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: When you're listening to them fellas talking.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: Them fellas have a level of confidence that borderlines an arrogance, but they do well and they're very, very bright.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: They're young black fellas who know their work and they know their value.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 3: So when you see we operate in a society where people like them, love them or hate them, finding it easier to walk away from Trinidad and Tobago than to stay here, it reminds me of the earlier, the pre-boom days in Guyana, where Guyana is um, I used to hear a lot about brain drain being one of Guyana problem, where the biggest loss as a society was the human capital loss.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: So you're teaching an MBA class in Guyana and when I do MBA courses in Guyana, you know the best and brightest people at high levels in society, public and private sector, and when you hear them talking about, hey, when I did this MBA, I'm looking to move.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: At that time the program was Australian Institute of Business.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 3: People say, well, from here I'm looking to go Australia.
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: You know I'm getting out of here.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: Guy.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: Institute of business is that people say, well, from here I look into, go australia and I get out of here.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: Ghana don't have enough opportunity.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 3: Of course, different story now with oil and gas, but when ghana is a very large, expansive country, right, we could fit there a few times.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: Well, but they are.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 3: Uh, I think the population is about eight, nine hundred thousand.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: So you find that one of the issues they're already dealing with is our underpopulated society and if they lose any best and brightest in the society to somewhere abroad for better opportunities, people going come in here to sell goods, people go in Canada to do nursing and teaching, people go and see what people turn in the States and all these kinds of things.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 3: Uh, when, when, when that starts to happen, you will have an issue building back the society, even when things turn around for the better.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 3: And I just see that as one of the issues we're facing as a society, or we're on the verge of facing, if we don't take it seriously in terms of where people go.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 3: But again, I'm here for the heavy talking, I'm here to advise Terrence right, and even if, even if you're poor on a shoe, right to take it all for yourself, because sometimes you had to, you had to, you had to deflect, so you're accusing you, you, you, you, you beg you know, I mean you deny, you deny, you cry.
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 3: But even especially when, when you see they try to, when they try to put it on you right, even if it's just for the sake of the people in the gallery there and you're being recorded, because, remember, if you just accuse she a thing, even though she denying it, it goes something like, yes, he say I have evidence too.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 3: She goes Terrence, you have evidence on me, let me see it.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 3: Then either one or two things go happen.
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 3: The video will never come out right.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 3: She would never.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 3: Because now she looking like I'm messing me video and it turned into that kind of argument or it.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 3: You know, it looked like it could stick and it just, it just become two people having a domestic dispute and it never go viral and things so, so, so tyrant.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 3: Sometime, sometime you gotta what they call it now, these youths and them call it gaslighting now.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 3: But sometimes you have to make up a little story.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: You had to say, girl, among the different men you had over the years, I just decided to get a young thing in front of your father.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: When I say I fed up with hard all your feelings broke my making.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 3: I don't want to hate on love.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 3: Tell she I do everything for you when I get home.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 3: So I had to do something too.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: She say I, she only lover, she only friend.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: We make a wish and it will end.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: I sleep and I had a dream, wake up and I make a vow.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: Soon as everything complete to it.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: We saw one eye what I do.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: Wrong again, lord.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: Tell me what I do wrong.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: Again People call me with a lot.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 2: They say I get hard.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: Again they push a cut it.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: The guy do not fuck it.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: Who they can see?
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: Not fuck it?
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 1: But the girl.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: She keep on complaining.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: When I do it they say put you back into it All of the watchers she name call him with another guy.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: What I do wrong again.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: Lord, tell me what I do wrong again.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: People call me with them lies.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 2: They say I get one again, I buy she chocolate, I buy she rose.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 2: I push she out, I take she back, I pick up the clothes.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: I never leave her, but people tell me she hard.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: And now she find a man and she tell him what she done, what I do wrong her.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: But people tell me she hard.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: And now she find a mother.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: She tell me she done.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: What I do wrong again.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 2: Lad, tell me what I do wrong again.
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: People calling me name lad.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 3: They say I get horned again.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 3: Ronnie McIntosh used to say if you horn me.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 3: I will horn you back.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 3: If you horn me, I will horn you back.
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 3: If you horn me, I will horn you back If you horn me.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: I will horn you back, if you horn me, I will horn you back.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 3: That was old Ronnie, talk back in the day.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 3: Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 3: Who next?
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 3: Who next on the dockets?
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 3: What else we talk about here?
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 3: I have a few things.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna run through topic fast now because I remember, remember terrence is who we're here for, but we couldn't, we couldn't really pass our time like this.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 3: And let me, let me, let me deal with something serious before I get into um some more congratulatory kind of news and so on.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 3: Right, I saw this and I felt very, very sad in my heart as the article in the guardian saying nicole diag griffith announces breast cancer diagnosis.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 3: I just want to take a moment to send all the prayers and best wishes to nicole and gary griffith as they deal with this.
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 3: She brought a picture of her a new hairstyle you know, I mean post chemo hairstyle and uh, the article reads former miss universal trend on tobago government and government senator, nicole Diagraffid has announced that she has stage 3 breast cancer.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 3: In a video posted on her Facebook page, diagraffid said she was diagnosed with the disease the same week she hosted the O2N style at O2 Park.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 3: The journey thus far has been one from distress to discovery.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 3: I've unearthed such power, peace and perseverance.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 3: I can safely say this chapter has truly made me find unique methods of oxygenating not just myself, but also those who are traversing this journey along with me.
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 3: She thanked her husband, gary Griffith, and her son, gary Griffith III, her mother, her brother, her friends for their support, saying they have been a complete blessing.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 3: Again, this is not easy news.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 3: If you want, you could go back to my mother.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 3: My mother was on this, uh, on this podcast some time ago.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 3: I wish I could tell you episode number.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 3: Just search for conversations, look for linda, shepherd, barbara I'm not so good at episode numbers and then, clearly, if you don't know what I'm about, last week I labeled the episode on youtube 294 instead of 194.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 3: Right, I'm not a young man, but my mother talks about her journey with breast cancer there and I don't know if she's been instrumental.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 3: You know, after getting a clean bill of health, going back to places like the, what I used to call the powers, or the infirmary, the St James Medical Complex, to just talk with women who are dealing with things like this, and it's rough, it's rough, it's rough.
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 3: I saw this a couple of times in my family and it's not easy, of course, on the person who's dealing with that, but on everybody else.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 3: It's wrong.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 3: It's really a new chapter for the family.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 3: Listen, last week I see one of the more difficult things I've seen in a long time.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 3: I always remember I had an aunt who passed away with cancer as well, so my Auntie Maria and I always remember Canon no clark would have done the funeral, if I'm not mistaken about who the priest was, and he said something that at that point in life I never thought about it and when he said it it hit home.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 3: He say a parent shouldn't have to bury a child.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 3: Like you know, when a parent had a barrier child difficulties and it's only then I really think about what my grandmother would have been going through and having a child.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: Now I started to understand that no matter how old they get, they could get to be big man and woman.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 3: Your, your life you will live in with the expectation that you leaving them here and when you had to bury that child.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 3: It's easy at any age.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: But I have an employee who I see had to bury a child with with a former cancer as well.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 3: Uh boy, listen was rough this week, nine years old, not an easy thing to look at and uh, the school choir come to sing and you know I mean all your friends he was.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 3: He had a rough uh time post diagnosis and several times in and out of hospital I think it's three times.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 3: They say he would have um had remission with cancer.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 3: Not imagine about a nine-year-old child and they talk about how glowing he was.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 3: And he's the kind of child where you ask him how you're going, boy, you know how you're feeling and he he telling you I good, how you going.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 3: He more interested in how you going and listen something, something else to see.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 3: And I heard one of the children from the cancer ward came up and spoke about her experience with him and how she was his little, he was her little brother and just talking about the children and she took the time in the church to talk about what happens on the cancer ward with little train, how difficult it could be for little train listen when she done talking to another person without tears in the eyes and that she was.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 3: It was very, very moving and it's rough stuff.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 3: So I just want to take a quick minute to talk about that and and really send all our prayers, all our collective prayers, and good wishes and positive energy.
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 3: And I like how she put it.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 3: You know she say oxygenating, you know I mean if you could send our own oxygenation, if there's a word to to to gary griffith and the griffith family in in this difficult time I have of coming off of that.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 3: A few, uh, congratulatory things that I would like to do, and one of them, of course, is close to home for me, because National Parang Association celebrates Parang History Month and we, like in Parang bad, all I know is a man is a lover of the Parang.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 3: I'm still looking.
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 3: I tell myself that if I come here often enough, right, and say that I want a parang side, at some point somebody will call me and say, boy, come and play for, for, for we parang side.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 3: But clearly that not happening, so I need, I need, I need to figure out exactly what you're supposed to do.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 3: If you could play a little bit and you want to join a Parang side, you don't know nobody who could pull you in a Parang side.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 3: And, more importantly than a Parang side, what you want is a Rum side who could just pick up and go anywhere at any point in time at short notice to go and play a little music by people right.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 3: So I pointed it out in the universe again and it helped to find a Parang side.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 3: But Bovina Sukde writes September is Parang History Month, a period dedicated to reflecting on and honoring the rich heritage of Parang music in Trinidad and Tobago.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 3: The term Parang comes from the Spanish word paranda, meaning festive spree or celebration.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 3: Parang has become closely associated with the joy and festivities of Christmas.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 3: Groups of musicians, known as paranderos, go from house to house bringing entertainment to the community through lively singing and dancing, often accompanied by the sharing of food and drinks.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 3: Prang History Month is headed by the National Prang Association in Trinidad and Tobago.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 3: You know, as a fool, maybe I should call NPAT.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 3: Maybe NPAT have some kind of repository of all halfway good players and they could come on to somebody.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 3: Npat PR officer Joanne Briggs explained the celebration month was the brainchild of the association's current president, alicia Jagusa, who wanted to give the art form, its art form and its icons due recognition.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 3: So, in celebration of national Parang history month in September, september is typically the month where we kick off the Parang season as well.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 3: I did see NPAT on their Instagram page pay special tribute to the Lara Brothers.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 3: And Lara Brothers have a special place in Parang.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 3: Right, they were the boat pastor.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 3: We're at this point, tito and Willie.
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 3: And there is a younger generation of a younger generation of lara brothers who pick up the mantle and them fellas song, good ever lead singer who very, very bad, bad, bad country stand and bad on the vocals too.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 3: And um, if I could read a little bit from my end part, post it, it's a lara brothers, one of the most iconic, if not the iconic sound of parang in trinidad and tobago.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 3: They say today we celebrate lara brothers every hour.
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 3: On the hour we'll give you some history and some music to celebrate life and legacy of lara family.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 3: And uh, they ain't talking about cricket, you say.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 3: Approximately 70 years ago, four brothers, antonio, tito, willie and and Victor, formed the Lara Brothers alongside their father, ignacio Monastro.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 3: Their father, a native Spanish speaker who spoke no English, came from Venezuela and they all in turn named the band after their mother, lina Lara.
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 3: The mother loved singing parent songs.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 3: Contrary to the foundation of the name Lara, it must be noted that the Lara Brothers maintained an all-male band cast throughout their years.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 3: In youth they would come together and sing songs they learned, but use their mouths to replicate the sounds of the quatra and maracas.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 3: The focus of the lara brothers back then was on house to house pranks to cheer spirits and moods post-world war ii.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 3: The most notable of the brothers, willie and tito lara, kept kept the Lara legacy alive into the 2000s, before their passing.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 3: However, the music lives on.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 3: So salute to the Lara brothers and, of course, I have one line up for you here ¶¶ La.
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 4: Paloma Lleva, oh, oh oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh oh oh oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh oh oh, oh, oh, oh, oh oh oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 4: Oh, our taste right, it's September, right?
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 3: It's our taste.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 3: You know, it's our taste.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 3: Right, it's September.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 3: Right, it's our taste we don't get too warm.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 3: Last but not least.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 3: Last but not least, kalipasad awarded citation by New York City Mayor.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 3: So to the great Dominic Kalipasad, anytime Dominic Kalipasad in the news here on this podcast, right Automatic.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 3: Former group head of news at CCN Limited, dominic Calipas has been awarded a special citation by the mayor of New York City, eric Adams.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 3: The certificate of recognition was presented to him at the Brooklyn Caribbean Literary Festival, which was held in Brooklyn, new York City, from September 5th to 8th 2024.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 3: Salute to Marsha Messiah and the squad at bclf.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 3: According to bclf founder marsha messiah, the mayor wanted to recognize the veteran journalist and television anchor for his excellence in caribbean journalism and storytelling.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 3: The citation states the city of new york certificate of recognition is presented to dominica liposad on the occasion of the Brooklyn Literary Festival for your contributions to our cultural landscape.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 3: Through your tremendous accomplishments as a journalist and a media broadcaster, you have engaged and inspired diverse people in New York and beyond.
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 3: I look forward to the many ways you'll continue to make a positive difference and strengthen our vibrant Caribbean American community as we take bold steps to get stuff done to forge a brighter, more equitable and prosperous future for our global city.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 3: Eric Adams Mayor, september 5th 2024.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 3: Following receipt of the award, which was presented to Mr Kalipasad by Messiah, the multi-award-winning journalist, said the citation was a tribute to the profession of journalism in TNT and to all those who strive to maintain high standards.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 3: The award also coincided with the upcoming 50th anniversary of Kalipasad's service as a television news presenter, the longest-serving news anchor in the history of television media in TNT.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 3: Impressive Kalipasad, who has developed a post-retirement reputation as a history enthusiast and digital storyteller, was invited to the bclf as a result of his decades in journalism and documenting the history of trinidad and tobago and the wider caribbean.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 3: Messiah said he was identified because of his storied career and accomplishments, which in itself is a journey in storytelling.
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 3: She said it was the highest honor and an unbelievable accomplishment for the bclf team to have kalipasad appear under the rubric of archivist preservers making news uh, a new category in the six-year-old festival which celebrates caribbean literature and diaspora stories.
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  Speaker 3: It can't be that.
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  Speaker 3: As I say, dominic kalipasad, he's where he is, he's a gem.
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  Speaker 3: He's a gem, he's a gem, and the thing about it is when um, what the africans say, like when you lose a person, you lose a library like a library burned down or something like that and you lose somebody like roy cape.
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  Speaker 3: We must always remember that, while you feel the loss of people like roy cape, we must also feel the loss of people like Roy Cape.
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  Speaker 3: We must also feel the presence of people like Dominic Kalipasad, who are selflessly contributing to our society in a way that, like this is what we need.
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  Speaker 3: This is what we need more of More people who are connected to our history, connected to our roots, connected to our culture, so that these same youths who we call in, lost and gone astray and all these things, could really find purpose in themselves and see that they're bigger than the block they're liming on or the issues that they're facing on a day-to-day basis that have them going down a road that's not progressive, right.
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  Speaker 3: But again, as we continue to do this and as we wrap up this episode, we had a, we had a, we had a guitar and remember, this is team taranto.
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  Speaker 3: We're not supporting this wife and we're not supporting no shania who come to you, come to make a video thing done bad, with me home already.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 3: You come to make a video hey, well, I will ask him to what she really, what she really come to say, what she really come to say.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 3: Last ditch effort to help save Terrence here.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 3: Terrence, if that didn't work right, what we had to do is just generalize the situation.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 3: You had to generalize and just basically just make it about horn in general in life.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I mean, if you used to listen to kaiso, you, you just just just make it about again.
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  Speaker 3: You could have, you could have, you could have pulled some tune like this, right, yeah, yeah, tune like this, rest down, telling you all her woman is fine way to horn man and man, like people, old people will tell people because I mean, when she, when she, when she I didn't want to watch too much of the video, but when she, when she going down into, ain't paying her bill, ain't doing nothing to them children.
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  Speaker 3: I want to defend Terrence Bard, you know, but the more she went into that story is, the more I started to remember this song.
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  Speaker 4: The MP5 strap boy.
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  Speaker 4: I'm the I I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I I.
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  Speaker 4: A young man Asked for my opinion About a lady he want to marry.
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  Speaker 4: You're walking no, you're joking.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 4: You're stealing no.
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  Speaker 4: You're dealing no, you're looking for hon.
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  Speaker 4: Plenty, plenty hon boy.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 4: You're looking for hon.
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  Speaker 4: You're going to get hon boy.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 4: Why you want to marry?
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 4: You don't have no money.
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  Speaker 4: You ain't working no way.
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  Speaker 4: You don't have a payday.
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  Speaker 4: You think it's?
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  Speaker 4: so the things that work you think it's so.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 4: I wish you luck.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 4: Without money to buy honey, you're heading for misery.
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 4: She want here, do and call her, do and you ain't have nothing.
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  Speaker 4: Somebody will haunt you.
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  Speaker 4: You better believe it.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 4: Somebody will haunt you.
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  Speaker 4: I hope you could take it bad now now young fella.
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  Speaker 4: I think you should consider yeah, employment Before enjoyment.
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 4: You're low on trade.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 4: No, you have good trade.
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  Speaker 4: No, you're a smart man, no A magician.
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  Speaker 4: No, you're looking for harm.
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  Speaker 4: You're going to man.
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 4: No, a magician.
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 4: No, you're looking for a horn.
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  Speaker 4: You're going to get a horn boy.
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 4: You're looking for a horn.
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 4: Bless me, bless me.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 4: Horn boy.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 4: You think it's true?
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  Speaker 1: The thing that's worth.
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  Speaker 1: You think it's true, I wish you luck.
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  Speaker 4: You must assume she want perfume and good things to consume.
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  Speaker 4: You say she nice, but take advice, she must want some hot rice.
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  Speaker 4: Somebody will haunt you.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you better believe it, somebody will haunt you.
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  Speaker 2: I hope you could take it, brother.
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  Speaker 3: If all else fails, just go to.
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  Speaker 3: Woman is Horned More Than man.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 3: Just start to say listen, only this horned more than man.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 3: Only you had a good chance.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 3: You had to do something.
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 3: You can't just sit down still, right, you can't sit down still.
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  Speaker 4: That'd be enough song telling you how woman is horned more than a man Like he on a mission Terrorizing old man Messing with a woman.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 4: He used to be grinning, like time catch up with him.
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  Speaker 4: He ain't grinning no more.
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  Speaker 4: His face always sour.
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  Speaker 4: The owner man crying.
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  Speaker 4: The owner man calling what goes around, comes around.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 4: It went around and came around.
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  Speaker 4: Somebody on the owner man, somebody on the owner man, somebody on the owner man, a owner man on the owner man.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, dee doo doo.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, dee-dee-doo.
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 4: The girl had a husband.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they called him stupid man, but I love the fat man For he was a smart man.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 4: He waited till the wife had another man and that one was holding the owner man and while they're forcing and pulling knives, he take away the owner man wife.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 4: Oh oh yeah, the owner man came.
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 3: The owner man came.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 3: So I see all of my churches and thing which mean everybody good right.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 3: So none of this advice don't make no sense whatsoever.
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 3: But I want to the last ditch effort.
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 3: When you see all else fail, right, you cry, you accuse them back, you talk about women in general at them, kind of thing.
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 3: Sometimes you just have to let them know.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 3: This is the way you just live.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 3: You know, and it's a listen.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 3: You married a policeman.
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 3: What the hell you did really expect?
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 3: You know?
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 3: I mean I don't know the writers in your foot looking for him taking care of yourself.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 3: Sometimes you just have to listen.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 3: This is the way I just live my life and it's either we doing this or we ain't doing it.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 3: I don't want to.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 3: You know, set a talk.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 3: When I go on out, they'll call my phone.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 3: Those are asked me.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 3: No, set a question about where I was and who I was.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 3: By and thing.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 3: We live in.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 3: So that is how we live in and you don't know you're not leaving already.
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 3: So take your time and just let me live my life and you live your life and you.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 3: You had to tell them them.
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 3: Them had to close one eye, but tell them you're watching them.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 3: Don't just let them run loose on you, because when you do that, you had to expect some overshadow.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 3: You had to expect that it will have repercussions and consequences.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 3: So you had to put them on your foot.
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 3: You're a police, you know how to be authoritative.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 3: You had to say I's a man and this is how I just live, and I want to leave all of this.
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 3: One right.
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 3: One of my favorite Soka Kaizo Groovy, whatever you want to call it right.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 3: One of my favorite.
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 3: Sometimes you just have to let them know that this is what it is.
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 7: Remember when I tell everybody jungle, I thought it was peace in the jungle.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 7: When I saw the peace in the jungle I ceased to believe there's peace in the jungle.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 7: I run from the beast in the jungle.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 7: A voice from the tree will stumble.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 7: This is now time to be humble.
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 7: Get the fuck deep on the beat.
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 7: I don't tell my girl it's whistle and horn.
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 7: And if she call your phone, tell she a horn.
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 7: I don't tell my girl it's whistle and horn.
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 7: Nobody can see if we gone, already born.
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 7: Well, the tongue hot.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 7: We cannibals make the tongue hot.
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 3: The girls in town just make the tongue hot, dance my right to DJ, dust off.
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 3: I stick that nigga.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 3: I see you say you want to eat or you want to take away.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 3: We'll be right back.
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 3: She walkin' back, but she fuckin' fuck.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 3: A bus once stopped with a cricket bat and she wicket back, but she stickin' back.
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 3: Tell me girl, it's whistle and horn.
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 3: And if she call your phone.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 2: Tell she a-goin' I done.
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 2: Tell me, girl, it's whistle and horn.
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 2: Nobody got to feel good, it's already born.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 2: Train a-that nice, obama.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 2: Tell me train a-that nice.
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 2: He heat and he freeze.
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 2: Make train a-that nice.
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 3: I'm a play mat for We'll be right back, listen, only have a safe week, have a productive week, everybody, take care of yourself and come back next week.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 3: I was leaving you with the Cassie here, but I remember this and I'll leave you with this.
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 2: Hold on to me, junior.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 2: It's the guy.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 2: This thing's so amazing, amazing, got something from unworthy.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 2: Them guys tell me what we can't do when we drink we rum and do what we want to.
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 2: All I do today.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 2: Them guys tell me what we can't do when we drink we rum and do what we want to.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 2: I never seen a set like this before Yellow, up and down, drop it on the floor and up on the floor drinking, punching and crazy.
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 2: Oh oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 2: When everybody in back I ain't got time to go Now send this love, walk, walk, walk, walk, walking up on this.
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 2: Back back, back, back, backing up on this.
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 3: I was leaving you with that, but as we're done here already, right, as we're done here already, we might as well.
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 3: We might as well, we're done here, and we know what this situation will be looking like in heaven.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 3: We know heaven singing, we know heaven rejoicing when men come in.
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 3: So when you see, when you see Black Sea Papi a way to just imagine the greeting right I'll leave you with this one Thank you.
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 5: We'll see you next week Trying to stay alive From Monday and Tuesday.
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 5: It's sweet time to break away.
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 3: What if you wait all day, so much of the day.
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 3: Spread your hands and let go.
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 3: Spread your hand in the air, everybody.
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 3: Spread your hands and let go.
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 3: Now it's my time to go.
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  Speaker 3: I'll see you all next week.
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 3: Bye, I'll see you all next week.
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 3: Bye.