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- 0:00Speaker 1: It's thirty eight. All bills can win in here, Wake
- 0:02Speaker 1: puts it down, the kick is on the way, and
- 0:05Speaker 1: d dock and the bill good one? How the hell
- 0:08Speaker 1: that one.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Home?
- 0:11Speaker 1: How one? They were a party one not party way?
- 0:16Speaker 3: Incredible?
- 0:17Speaker 1: Why not combat by my bell? Jacksonville's perfect record on
- 0:22Speaker 1: the line right here, quick.
- 0:30Speaker 3: Kicking, look excited.
- 0:31Speaker 2: Touchdown Kyle Williams touchdound amazing, unbelievable. They puttied william who's
- 0:54Speaker 2: has to full back and he scores a touchdown. It's
- 0:58Speaker 2: wealthier to face tackle.
- 1:16Speaker 3: What's good? Folks, Family, friends, loved ones, enemies, friend of
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- 1:41Speaker 3: Underscores A n T In tonight's episode of Disguised Coverage,
- 1:46Speaker 3: we will be diving into the Buffalo Bills week five
- 1:50Speaker 3: matchup in Houston against the Texans. The Bills are maybe,
- 1:55Speaker 3: potentially depending on who you ask, reeling a little bit
- 1:58Speaker 3: after getting shellacked and molly wopped in Baltimore Sunday night
- 2:02Speaker 3: against the Ravens. They leave Baltimore continue their road trip,
- 2:07Speaker 3: going to Houston to face C. J. Stroud and Nico
- 2:10Speaker 3: Collins and maybe Laramie Tunsel and maybe Tank Dell and
- 2:14Speaker 3: Daniel Hunter and Will Anderson and Stefan Diggs. I don't
- 2:19Speaker 3: know if anybody is aware that Stefan Diggs is on
- 2:21Speaker 3: the Houston Texans. He used to be a Buffalo Bill.
- 2:22Speaker 3: Don't know if anybody knows that. But we will be
- 2:24Speaker 3: diving into several of those players, if not all of them, tonight.
- 2:28Speaker 3: The scheme, the structure, the who's, the what's, the how's,
- 2:31Speaker 3: the whys, everything that pertains to Bills versus Texans in
- 2:34Speaker 3: Week five. What will decide that game? The critical elements,
- 2:37Speaker 3: the critical matchup pieces. And I say we because in
- 2:40Speaker 3: having that conversation, I am not alone. I am joined
- 2:44Speaker 3: by mister J. P Acosta of esb nation, who continues
- 2:48Speaker 3: to set the record for most guest appearances on the
- 2:51Speaker 3: show and who At this point, I told this the
- 2:54Speaker 3: JP offline, and I'll tell you all all your folks this.
- 2:56Speaker 3: Now you know how we do in season on the show.
- 2:58Speaker 3: I like to bring in guests that do you know,
- 3:01Speaker 3: preferably schematic work, film work, who actually know ball on
- 3:04Speaker 3: each team. If I can't find someone like that who
- 3:06Speaker 3: covers the team the Bills are playing, I pretty much
- 3:10Speaker 3: at this point resorted to just messaging JP and see
- 3:13Speaker 3: if he'd be willing to join me. This one also
- 3:14Speaker 3: has a little added benefit. JP is a ball nowhere
- 3:17Speaker 3: but also a Jacksonville Jaguars fan. The Texans just played
- 3:21Speaker 3: the Jaguars, so he's got a little added insight and
- 3:23Speaker 3: emphasis added to this game. But regardless of that, JP,
- 3:27Speaker 3: you're awesome. I love you. We started late because we
- 3:29Speaker 3: were chopping it up offline, as we are ones to
- 3:31Speaker 3: do every time you join me. I appreciate you coming
- 3:34Speaker 3: back again for another record setting appearance. Thank you for
- 3:36Speaker 3: being here.
- 3:37Speaker 1: I'm excited. You know, this feels like a big game.
- 3:39Speaker 1: It is the Jerry Hughes revenge game. It's the Robert
- 3:41Speaker 1: Woods revenge game, the Nick Broker Revenge game. Yeah, you know,
- 3:46Speaker 1: I don't think of any other.
- 3:48Speaker 3: Tim Settle Tim Settle revenge game.
- 3:50Speaker 1: Yeahs game. I don't think of any other Bills outside
- 3:53Speaker 1: of that on the on the Texans roster, you know,
- 3:55Speaker 1: but it feels like a big game, you know. It
- 3:57Speaker 1: feels like both teams need a little bit of momentum.
- 4:01Speaker 1: I think the Texans. The Texans won on Sunday, but
- 4:04Speaker 1: it was not pretty at all, you know. I think
- 4:06Speaker 1: they're still trying to figure stuff out. And like you
- 4:08Speaker 1: said at the top, the Bills are coming in after
- 4:11Speaker 1: kind of getting their asses handed to them a little
- 4:14Speaker 1: bit more so they need to they they really need
- 4:18Speaker 1: to get back on the right track, especially on defense,
- 4:21Speaker 1: but luckily not facing their envy this week.
- 4:25Speaker 3: No, no, they And I'm sure we'll touch on it
- 4:27Speaker 3: at some point or at multiple points here, but that
- 4:29Speaker 3: that Ravens game really was and I talked about it
- 4:33Speaker 3: last week the OH. I like this comment from Ralph
- 4:35Speaker 3: was saying, JP next Jacks coach, would you would you
- 4:38Speaker 3: accept that job or do you accept the job?
- 4:40Speaker 1: Absolutely? I would accept that job on one condition. We
- 4:44Speaker 1: will only throw the ball ten times. This will be
- 4:49Speaker 1: remember the Jimmy Garoppolo game for the forty nine Ers
- 4:52Speaker 1: against the Packers in the NFC Championship game where he
- 4:55Speaker 1: only threw it eight times. Yes, and like I think
- 4:58Speaker 1: one of the first plays he threw a pick and
- 4:59Speaker 1: kind of Santa was like, Nope, none of that. I
- 5:02Speaker 1: never again. That is gonna be every game. We're coming
- 5:06Speaker 1: from the school of Jim Harbaugh and we're gonna run
- 5:09Speaker 1: that damn ball. My pronouns are power and counter, so
- 5:13Speaker 1: we if you make me the head coach, we will
- 5:15Speaker 1: be running that damn ball.
- 5:17Speaker 3: Back to when, yeah, when men were men in this
- 5:19Speaker 3: country was at its finest. We were running power, we
- 5:22Speaker 3: were running counter, good, gap scheme, displacement, creation, people moving guys,
- 5:27Speaker 3: set in the tone. It was cold, and the field
- 5:30Speaker 3: was made of real grass, but it was pretty much mud,
- 5:32Speaker 3: and the steel industry was strong, and we made our
- 5:36Speaker 3: own stuff here.
- 5:37Speaker 1: Those those NFL films sounds the that is real.
- 5:43Speaker 3: That's that's how you come to the podium for your
- 5:46Speaker 3: for your life every week.
- 5:47Speaker 1: I need that play every Prince Conference. I want that
- 5:50Speaker 1: played as I walk out.
- 5:51Speaker 3: I want it played by some like but it's like not,
- 5:55Speaker 3: It's like I either want it played by some extravagant
- 5:57Speaker 3: like you spend like ten thousand dollars per appearance for
- 6:01Speaker 3: like some really great like orchestra band to play it.
- 6:04Speaker 3: Or it's like you've got like a cousin who like
- 6:09Speaker 3: dabbles in like music, like wants to Yeah, it's just
- 6:13Speaker 3: some really bad instrument or some like like a pan flu.
- 6:17Speaker 3: I'm just thinking what would sound terrible, and.
- 6:18Speaker 1: It'll be like I'll have Tank Bigsby playing on kazoo
- 6:22Speaker 1: every time like a while.
- 6:24Speaker 3: In Tanks, Like, am I gonna get on the field
- 6:25Speaker 3: this week? It's like, we'll see how you do it.
- 6:28Speaker 1: Let's too much dip on the chip.
- 6:30Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, don't get ahead of yourself here. Uh. That's
- 6:34Speaker 3: a good point though with with the Texans, because I
- 6:36Speaker 3: feel like going into this game, the Bills are realing
- 6:39Speaker 3: a little bit after that horrible loss against Baltimore, but
- 6:42Speaker 3: the Texans had their own loss like that a couple
- 6:45Speaker 3: of weeks ago, just got housed by Minnesota. Really really
- 6:49Speaker 3: fun game plan. Like I watched, I didn't watch the
- 6:52Speaker 3: Vikings offensive side as much. I watched the bits and
- 6:56Speaker 3: pieces in like half of it through the tape, but
- 6:57Speaker 3: I really focus on the defensive side. Minnesota's defense is
- 6:59Speaker 3: just so fun, how much they play on the front foot,
- 7:02Speaker 3: what they're doing doing from a blitz standpoint, what they
- 7:04Speaker 3: do from a multiplicity standpoint with the three Seeds, three savities,
- 7:08Speaker 3: what you do with buying them and Harrison Smith and Mattelis,
- 7:10Speaker 3: and then how they're kicking Murphy into the slot to
- 7:12Speaker 3: put Griffin in an outside corner along with Gilmour, and
- 7:15Speaker 3: how they they just disguise, well they rotate.
- 7:17Speaker 2: Well.
- 7:18Speaker 3: They had the Texans offense in hell as they have
- 7:21Speaker 3: pretty much almost every Shanahan offense minus a Matt mcfluir
- 7:24Speaker 3: a little bit kind of breaking through a little bit
- 7:26Speaker 3: this past week. But yeah, the Texans had their own
- 7:29Speaker 3: shall acking at the hands of Minnesota. And then they
- 7:32Speaker 3: come home and they have I don't want to say
- 7:35Speaker 3: say a deflating victory, but kind of a deflating victory
- 7:38Speaker 3: against the Jags, and one that you know, I know
- 7:40Speaker 3: you echoed these sentiments on Twitter. The Jags kind of
- 7:44Speaker 3: gave that game away, Like Trevor Lawrence missed a bunch
- 7:47Speaker 3: of like not even like superhuman level throws, like just
- 7:50Speaker 3: a bunch of basic like just hit the guy, just
- 7:52Speaker 3: hit the open guy like he's right there, and then
- 7:54Speaker 3: the Texans have some injuries on top of it. Yeah,
- 7:57Speaker 3: they don't come into this game like my initial coming
- 8:00Speaker 3: into this season before any games have been played, when
- 8:02Speaker 3: it was at this point the Texans might be like
- 8:05Speaker 3: the toast of the league. We'd see where the Bills
- 8:07Speaker 3: would be. Now, I feel like the Bills are definitely willing,
- 8:10Speaker 3: but the Texans really haven't hit their stride on offense
- 8:14Speaker 3: given to where they are or where people thought they'd
- 8:16Speaker 3: be this year, and then they still have some questions
- 8:17Speaker 3: on defense. It's a weird spot for both teams, but
- 8:19Speaker 3: especially for Houston. I feel like it's not that that
- 8:21Speaker 3: side isn't really getting seen as much.
- 8:24Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a weird year for Houston already through
- 8:27Speaker 1: the first four games. I think they started off really fast.
- 8:30Speaker 1: They started off running for two hundred yards from the Colts,
- 8:35Speaker 1: and then I haven't really gotten that back at all.
- 8:38Speaker 3: No, you know what's crazy, So I was gonna mention
- 8:40Speaker 3: it later. They are despite absolutely murking the Colts on
- 8:45Speaker 3: the ground, they are one of I thought I wrote
- 8:48Speaker 3: it down, but I guess I'll just pull it up
- 8:50Speaker 3: organically from the stats. Again, they are one of the
- 8:53Speaker 3: worst teams on the ground this year, and in terms
- 8:56Speaker 3: of EPA per rush they are. Now I can't find it. Uh,
- 9:03Speaker 3: they're horrible. They're they're not like a good running for Oh,
- 9:05Speaker 3: there it is. They are twenty fifth in EPA per
- 9:08Speaker 3: rush on the ground for next Gen stats, if.
- 9:10Speaker 1: You take out that Week one bonanza, they are dead
- 9:14Speaker 1: last in EPA per carry.
- 9:16Speaker 3: And oh oh no, wait, I gotta correct myself. Sorry,
- 9:18Speaker 3: they were twenty fifth in That's why I knew it
- 9:20Speaker 3: was allude to me. They're twenty eighth on the year
- 9:22Speaker 3: in EPA per rush And to your point, yes, if
- 9:24Speaker 3: you take out that Colts game in Week one, they're
- 9:26Speaker 3: even worse continum.
- 9:27Speaker 1: Sorry, they're even worse, and they're twenty three point two
- 9:29Speaker 1: percent success rate on the ground is also dead last,
- 9:32Speaker 1: and they're behind the Raiders, who actively can run the football.
- 9:36Speaker 1: So it's just been a weird year trying to figure
- 9:39Speaker 1: out what works. I think Defensively they've played, they've been
- 9:43Speaker 1: hot and cold. Defensively, they're still they're still really young,
- 9:46Speaker 1: especially in the secondary, but they're still trying to figure
- 9:49Speaker 1: it out. But no matter what you get from the Texans,
- 9:54Speaker 1: you will get a good performance from their stars. That's
- 9:59Speaker 1: that's happen. They're gonna they have the stars to win
- 10:02Speaker 1: the football game. Now it's time for the others to
- 10:06Speaker 1: kind of lead them back up.
- 10:07Speaker 3: I like that. I like that a lot. And that's
- 10:09Speaker 3: exactly one of my points, kind of similar to what
- 10:12Speaker 3: one of my points was last week when it came
- 10:13Speaker 3: to Bill's versus Ravens, and just, yeah, the star power
- 10:16Speaker 3: that they have. Do have some injuries on both sides
- 10:18Speaker 3: of the ball, but man, the Texans got some dudes
- 10:22Speaker 3: on both sides of the ball. And then they're well coached.
- 10:25Speaker 3: You know, everyone knows Bobby Slowick and you know where
- 10:27Speaker 3: what tree he comes from on the offensive side of
- 10:30Speaker 3: the ball. But then tying it in with what Demico
- 10:32Speaker 3: Ryans has done and his tenure with San Francisco and
- 10:34Speaker 3: what he's done a little bit with Houston, and yeah,
- 10:37Speaker 3: they're they're a well coached group. They're sitting there at
- 10:40Speaker 3: three and one still haven't hit their stride really on
- 10:41Speaker 3: either side of the ball, and I feel like you're
- 10:43Speaker 3: kind of just waiting a little bit for things to
- 10:46Speaker 3: click and kind of fall into place a little bit,
- 10:49Speaker 3: and we'll kind of see what obviously they'll be this week.
- 10:51Speaker 3: One quick piece JPI DM drew about this earlier today
- 10:55Speaker 3: that I wanted to get into, and I know for
- 10:59Speaker 3: me it applies to one of my points tonight. But
- 11:01Speaker 3: I think this is an aspect that I wanted to
- 11:03Speaker 3: talk about because I don't think it gets talked about
- 11:05Speaker 3: enough across football, but especially when it comes to the
- 11:09Speaker 3: Bills in particular. And this is something just on a
- 11:12Speaker 3: large scale schematic, league wide conversation, current NFL trends, not
- 11:16Speaker 3: even current NFL trends, just general like football aspects that
- 11:22Speaker 3: we're going to talk about here, but it also applies
- 11:23Speaker 3: to the Bills, given how they like to operate. What
- 11:27Speaker 3: I want to talk to you about is I want
- 11:29Speaker 3: to explain to the people and just dive into a
- 11:30Speaker 3: little bit on the idea of true drop back situations
- 11:35Speaker 3: and why offenses like to potentially avoid them, and so
- 11:40Speaker 3: just getting into what a true dropback situation means, why
- 11:44Speaker 3: avoiding them is a good thing, how it can be done,
- 11:46Speaker 3: because I think that in particular applies to this Bill's
- 11:50Speaker 3: offense for the entirety of this season, but even more
- 11:53Speaker 3: so with how they got off track against Baltimore. Why
- 11:56Speaker 3: things started to snowball, and I also wanted to it
- 12:00Speaker 3: up too, because I feel like so much nowadays we
- 12:02Speaker 3: I think even the casual fans have moved on from
- 12:05Speaker 3: like raw stats and box score scouting. Now everybody just
- 12:08Speaker 3: goes to like the low hanging fruit advanced metrics, where
- 12:11Speaker 3: they're like, well, you should pass the ball, because EPA
- 12:14Speaker 3: per play says you should pass the football, but not
- 12:18Speaker 3: all passes are, are you the same? They're not quantified
- 12:21Speaker 3: the same. How running the ball ties into all of it,
- 12:23Speaker 3: And I think a large part that kind of glues
- 12:25Speaker 3: it all together is true drop back situations, what that means,
- 12:29Speaker 3: and why it's important in the grand scheme of the conversation.
- 12:32Speaker 1: Yes, so, first of all, we have to define what
- 12:36Speaker 1: true drop back situations are. To me, that screams second
- 12:40Speaker 1: and long, third and long, even first and long. You
- 12:43Speaker 1: know where you're have a penalty and you get set
- 12:46Speaker 1: back and the reason you want to stay out of these.
- 12:49Speaker 1: It is partially a much larger conversation about where the
- 12:53Speaker 1: NFL is going and where they have gone, but also
- 12:57Speaker 1: how the chess match between offenses and d defenses have
- 13:01Speaker 1: begun to kind of shift in the defensive defens's favor.
- 13:07Speaker 1: You want to stay out of second and third and
- 13:09Speaker 1: long because you become predictable unless you have Barry Sanders
- 13:14Speaker 1: or Carrick Henry or one of those guys at running back.
- 13:20Speaker 1: Running on second and long and third and long just
- 13:23Speaker 1: isn't efficient. Is not a way to move the chains
- 13:26Speaker 1: and get another first down, because you want to convert
- 13:29Speaker 1: those third downs in the first downs to keep the
- 13:31Speaker 1: ball in the field. Now, because you're so predictable, defensive
- 13:37Speaker 1: coordinators can start throwing curveballs at you. That's when you're
- 13:40Speaker 1: starting to get into the simulated pressures the creepers, because
- 13:43Speaker 1: now you just want to speed up that process in
- 13:46Speaker 1: third and longs. It's you don't want to get beat deep. Defensively,
- 13:51Speaker 1: you don't want to get beat deep. You don't want
- 13:52Speaker 1: to give up that first down. That's the reason you
- 13:55Speaker 1: see so many screen passes on second long and third
- 13:57Speaker 1: and long because they're playing at the stick. They're making
- 14:00Speaker 1: sure you don't give up the first down, and you
- 14:02Speaker 1: throw that screen pass and you run for a mile.
- 14:05Speaker 1: But with the simulated pressures the creepers, you're putting more
- 14:09Speaker 1: stress on the offensive line already, who was in an
- 14:12Speaker 1: obvious past situation, and offensive linemen haven't been that great
- 14:17Speaker 1: to start the year in the NFL. I think large
- 14:20Speaker 1: largely because development of the offensive line has gotten really bad,
- 14:24Speaker 1: and I think, you know, we have so many guys
- 14:28Speaker 1: who are coming in. It's not necessarily on the players
- 14:31Speaker 1: because the players that are coming in are some of
- 14:33Speaker 1: the most athletic tackles that we have ever seen. We're
- 14:36Speaker 1: seeing elite athletes enter the NFL. But it's about having
- 14:40Speaker 1: that time to develop those athletes into good football players,
- 14:44Speaker 1: and the NFL doesn't really have that time. With the
- 14:47Speaker 1: three preseason games, you don't get a lot of contact
- 14:50Speaker 1: and practice, and then you are already boom your rights
- 14:53Speaker 1: the middle of the season. So you think about think
- 14:57Speaker 1: about Kansas City with Kingsley Sawamataea. You have to play
- 15:00Speaker 1: him first, so he's gonna play poor and he got benched.
- 15:04Speaker 1: But now you're thinking, Okay, we have to try and
- 15:08Speaker 1: develop this guy as we try and win games. And
- 15:12Speaker 1: it kind of goes like you're pulling in two different directions.
- 15:15Speaker 1: But now you have those guys on the field. You
- 15:18Speaker 1: have this offensive line that hasn't really blocked together on
- 15:21Speaker 1: the field, and defense is just gonna start sending everything
- 15:25Speaker 1: at you, especially like you talked about at the top
- 15:27Speaker 1: with Minnesota kind of taking Houston to the woodshed. They
- 15:33Speaker 1: threw everything in the kitchen sink at them, rotating from
- 15:36Speaker 1: one high to too high. Harrison Smith leading the NFL
- 15:39Speaker 1: and just distance covered.
- 15:42Speaker 3: He's going, he's going from the slot to like split
- 15:44Speaker 3: field safety and then he's like gonna blitz off the
- 15:47Speaker 3: edge and then he's dropping as like the Tampa player,
- 15:49Speaker 3: like he's.
- 15:49Speaker 1: Everything from the edge to the deep third of the field.
- 15:53Speaker 1: It is an absurd thing to do to Harrison Smith,
- 15:56Speaker 1: who is well above thirty.
- 15:58Speaker 3: But yeah, well he's good to step.
- 16:00Speaker 1: Yeah you are. You are making this. You're making this
- 16:03Speaker 1: man run every week. So it just goes to you
- 16:08Speaker 1: want to avoid those true dropback situations because you still
- 16:12Speaker 1: have the advantage in those in those second and medium
- 16:15Speaker 1: for second and shorts, and you think about second and
- 16:18Speaker 1: short depending on down this and say you get into
- 16:21Speaker 1: like a second and four, but you're at you know,
- 16:24Speaker 1: like the opponent's forty six yard line. That feels like
- 16:28Speaker 1: shot play territory, that feels like a play where you
- 16:31Speaker 1: can go downfield aggressively, knowing that if you don't get it.
- 16:35Speaker 1: It's third and two. You can you can get two yards.
- 16:38Speaker 1: If you can't get two yards running the football, you
- 16:42Speaker 1: probably shouldn't be on the field anyway. So I think
- 16:46Speaker 1: with avoid avoiding true drop back situations is so important,
- 16:49Speaker 1: especially for a team like the Bills, because as good
- 16:54Speaker 1: as as great as Josh Allen is, you don't necessarily
- 16:57Speaker 1: always want Josh Allen to play Superman every week. That's
- 17:01Speaker 1: why you change this offense so much so you're not
- 17:05Speaker 1: as reliant on Josh Allen sicko mode. You want to
- 17:08Speaker 1: try and keep the ball ahead of the sticks. And
- 17:10Speaker 1: I think with what the Bills are doing to try
- 17:13Speaker 1: and stay ahead of those, they're kind of doing what
- 17:16Speaker 1: the again, it's very much a chiefsification of them. They're
- 17:21Speaker 1: just every run is tagged with like a bubble or
- 17:25Speaker 1: an arrow RPO, where if Josh Allen's just counting the numbers,
- 17:30Speaker 1: he has played so well this season in terms of
- 17:33Speaker 1: pre and posting that processing. If he just counts the
- 17:36Speaker 1: numbers in the box and he doesn't like what he
- 17:39Speaker 1: sees on the run, he'll just throw the arrow or
- 17:41Speaker 1: he'll throw the bubble screen if he doesn't like what
- 17:44Speaker 1: he sees out there and they have favorable numbers in
- 17:45Speaker 1: the box, they can just run it. And so now
- 17:48Speaker 1: you have an easier way to convert those first downs
- 17:52Speaker 1: into second and mediums. You stay sustainable, you know. So
- 17:56Speaker 1: I think staying out of those true dropback situations helps
- 18:01Speaker 1: keep the offense one step ahead. You stay one step
- 18:04Speaker 1: ahead in the chess game. You might move this piece here,
- 18:07Speaker 1: but you already know that you have the next plan
- 18:10Speaker 1: and ahead, you have the next move already planned out.
- 18:13Speaker 3: I love that, and yeah, it's real quick on the
- 18:16Speaker 3: offensive line piece. I love that point from you, and
- 18:20Speaker 3: I also tie that in. I feel like that's that's
- 18:23Speaker 3: an aspect that hasn't gotten talked about enough. With how
- 18:26Speaker 3: college offensive systems run now, so many people like to
- 18:29Speaker 3: jump on the like well, like you know, the quarterbacks
- 18:31Speaker 3: don't run pro style systems and they're not asked to
- 18:34Speaker 3: do you know, read progressions or do progressions and go
- 18:36Speaker 3: from you know, one to two to three and so
- 18:38Speaker 3: on and so forth. That's also affecting the offensive line
- 18:41Speaker 3: in terms of how you are practicing and what you're
- 18:43Speaker 3: doing from a game to game basis, like what you're running,
- 18:46Speaker 3: especially if you're going more spread like what you're asked
- 18:48Speaker 3: to do, the roles and responsibilities and assignments you have,
- 18:51Speaker 3: and then you go into the NFL and it's like, well, no,
- 18:54Speaker 3: We're like, you're a good athlete, but you gotta work
- 18:57Speaker 3: on this and this because we're a condensed team and
- 18:59Speaker 3: we like to run the ball and do play action
- 19:01Speaker 3: and do all these things. And now you're at you're
- 19:03Speaker 3: learning that all on the fly and changing it. That's
- 19:04Speaker 3: an aspect of the game that I don't think is
- 19:06Speaker 3: talked about in the quarterbacks as always get the focus
- 19:09Speaker 3: for everybody. But the way college football has changed is
- 19:12Speaker 3: also impacted offensive line play. That's also part of the
- 19:15Speaker 3: reason too, from a not to get two off track.
- 19:17Speaker 3: But with the too high coverage structure conversation, there's still
- 19:20Speaker 3: plenty of routes that beat those coverages some of them.
- 19:23Speaker 3: Some of them just take a little are a little
- 19:26Speaker 3: more downfield and thus take a little longer to develop,
- 19:28Speaker 3: and thus you need to pass protect for a little
- 19:30Speaker 3: bit longer. And guess what if you can't pass protect
- 19:32Speaker 3: a little bit longer, those routes downfield ain't working. Oh
- 19:35Speaker 3: my god, two high coverage structures and everybody's running cover
- 19:37Speaker 3: two cool, send a deep post and split those suckers
- 19:40Speaker 3: back there and take advantage. But guess what a fifteen
- 19:42Speaker 3: yard deep post where you're breaking at fifteen That takes
- 19:45Speaker 3: time and pass pro And if you can't do that,
- 19:48Speaker 3: are you keeping in you know, an extra tight end
- 19:51Speaker 3: or two or the running back. Also is your five
- 19:53Speaker 3: man turning into a six man or a seven man protection?
- 19:55Speaker 3: Or are you max protecting just to get like two
- 19:57Speaker 3: routes out there. It's all this like confounding type of thing.
- 20:01Speaker 3: But I love what you said on the true dropback nature.
- 20:04Speaker 3: It's something it talked about last week a little bit
- 20:06Speaker 3: on the show going into matchup. I talked about it
- 20:08Speaker 3: on Twitter coming out of the Bills Ravens game, and
- 20:10Speaker 3: I really feel like that conversation everything you said, and
- 20:13Speaker 3: I feel like a billarder I'm about to say as
- 20:14Speaker 3: well on it, like it really just ties into what
- 20:18Speaker 3: happened to the Bills offensively in that game. And so
- 20:21Speaker 3: I define true dropback situation similar to you, but I
- 20:24Speaker 3: had like a little couple of specific quantifiers like no
- 20:26Speaker 3: play action, no quick game, no screens, no boots or
- 20:30Speaker 3: rollouts or anything, and those really, you know, also kind
- 20:33Speaker 3: of funnel into what you when you have second and
- 20:35Speaker 3: third and long to your point, those are more of
- 20:37Speaker 3: like okay, five step drop, seven step drop. It's an
- 20:40Speaker 3: actual like we can't really game you up too much.
- 20:42Speaker 3: Maybe we'll run a screen, but you know, it's more
- 20:44Speaker 3: of a true dropback situation. And that's what happened to
- 20:47Speaker 3: the Bills in that game. The game script got them
- 20:50Speaker 3: out of the run game. They tried to get back
- 20:52Speaker 3: into it a little bit when it was twenty one
- 20:54Speaker 3: to ten. Then Allen gets stripped on the trick play
- 20:56Speaker 3: and it's twenty eight ten, and so the Bills need
- 20:59Speaker 3: to be able well, everything starts with the run game.
- 21:01Speaker 3: You and I talked about this back during the offseason
- 21:03Speaker 3: when we talked about what this offense could be and
- 21:04Speaker 3: the whole chiefsification of this offense as you as you
- 21:07Speaker 3: coin that term. The run game is so important because
- 21:10Speaker 3: it has the ability not only keep the Bills on schedule,
- 21:12Speaker 3: but it keeps the defense from being able to hone
- 21:14Speaker 3: in on one singularity for your offense. When that run
- 21:18Speaker 3: game goes away, not only does the run game go away,
- 21:20Speaker 3: but then the play action game starts to go away
- 21:23Speaker 3: a little bit then because you're having to pass so much,
- 21:25Speaker 3: you're probably operating from more of a spread aspect, which
- 21:28Speaker 3: we saw even than the Bills are going two by
- 21:30Speaker 3: two it was spread, or they're going three by two
- 21:32Speaker 3: full empty in gun and spread, and you're seeing all
- 21:35Speaker 3: these pieces and it's all getting them away from any
- 21:40Speaker 3: type of change up or any type of variability. And
- 21:43Speaker 3: then now the Bills are either in first down situations
- 21:47Speaker 3: where hey, it's twenty eight to ten, they probably got
- 21:50Speaker 3: to pass the ball to get back in this game,
- 21:51Speaker 3: or and or they're in second and longs and third
- 21:55Speaker 3: and longs, and that's when the Ravens are like, cool,
- 21:58Speaker 3: here comes a six man pressure that you have no idea,
- 22:01Speaker 3: like who's coming, or hey, we're gonna show they had one,
- 22:05Speaker 3: and I have so many in my head because they
- 22:07Speaker 3: did this so much. They're showing six at the line,
- 22:11Speaker 3: six man pressure, they drop two, they drop Kyle Hamilton,
- 22:15Speaker 3: and they drop away, and then they bring Humphrey from
- 22:19Speaker 3: the slot. So they show six, drop two, bring one.
- 22:23Speaker 3: So it ends up being four rush from the six
- 22:25Speaker 3: that they show, but it's just a five man pressure,
- 22:27Speaker 3: but it completely games up the protection and then you
- 22:30Speaker 3: still have things covered on the back end, and then
- 22:32Speaker 3: they're doing other things like they did. They had a
- 22:35Speaker 3: blitz at one point where it's they drop eight Mattabike
- 22:40Speaker 3: like fake e gauges for a half second and drops
- 22:43Speaker 3: as a low hole player. But then ro Quan is
- 22:45Speaker 3: also a low hole player and someone else is and
- 22:48Speaker 3: they're playing like all man on the back end with
- 22:51Speaker 3: three low hole players to take away seams. Quick stuff
- 22:54Speaker 3: and Josh Allen run game.
- 22:56Speaker 1: Oh it was the it was like a third and
- 22:58Speaker 1: six and early in the game. Yes, we brought Rokuan
- 23:01Speaker 1: up and they both The thing about it is they
- 23:04Speaker 1: both engaged with the linemen so it made it look
- 23:08Speaker 1: like we are going to rush and then dropped out
- 23:10Speaker 1: of it like they dropped both guys. Yes, and it's
- 23:14Speaker 1: just those things. You want to stay out of those
- 23:16Speaker 1: situations because like it or not, playing football, playing quarterback
- 23:22Speaker 1: in the NFL is really freaking hard. It is really
- 23:25Speaker 1: hard right now because it is so dynamic. You know,
- 23:30Speaker 1: like we just said, a deep the tackle might drop
- 23:33Speaker 1: in the coverage on any given snap and you might
- 23:35Speaker 1: not know it. You have about two and a half
- 23:38Speaker 1: two point seventy five seconds to figure out what this is,
- 23:43Speaker 1: what coverage it is and where to go with the
- 23:45Speaker 1: ball good luck. And if you get those obvious drop
- 23:49Speaker 1: back situations, now you are absolutely putting yourself behind the
- 23:54Speaker 1: eight ball, and now teams can just tee off on you.
- 23:57Speaker 1: And I think that's something that the Bills want to
- 24:00Speaker 1: void against Houston because Houston will absolutely tee off on
- 24:04Speaker 1: the defensively, that's what they want to do that that defense,
- 24:07Speaker 1: And I'm gonna get into one of my points that
- 24:09Speaker 1: defense is aggressive. They want to hit you so hard.
- 24:15Speaker 3: Yeah, they want to hunt.
- 24:16Speaker 1: They are so physical, so aggressive. But you want to
- 24:20Speaker 1: stay out of those true dropback situations because then you
- 24:23Speaker 1: have all those dudes who really want to hit you
- 24:27Speaker 1: lined up all across the line of scrimmage and now
- 24:30Speaker 1: you gotta figure it out.
- 24:31Speaker 3: Yes, there was one when I was doing film prep
- 24:34Speaker 3: before the show from Texans Jags, and it's just like
- 24:38Speaker 3: a cross dog blitz and Henry Toto annihilates Etn who
- 24:42Speaker 3: steps up to pick him up, and then Al Shaier
- 24:45Speaker 3: wraps around and just spears the hell out of Lawrence.
- 24:49Speaker 3: It's early on, it's early in the first quarter. Christian
- 24:51Speaker 3: Kirk is actually open. He wins towards the sideline on
- 24:54Speaker 3: a vertical and Lawrence just doesn't have the time and
- 24:56Speaker 3: has to throw it up. But yeah, just a physicality
- 24:59Speaker 3: like total just crushes ETN And then it's like als
- 25:02Speaker 3: Scheer saw that and was like, Okay, let me make
- 25:04Speaker 3: sure to run through Trevor Lawrence to match the intensity.
- 25:06Speaker 3: It's all a toll. Yeah, they want to run through
- 25:08Speaker 3: your face and yeah, just getting in And this also
- 25:11Speaker 3: is in this heavily applies to the Bills, but it's
- 25:15Speaker 3: also just where you want to be from an NFL
- 25:16Speaker 3: standpoint in general, Like I hate continuing to always use
- 25:19Speaker 3: like the shanahan and mcveays of the world, but like,
- 25:22Speaker 3: look at the Niners and the Rams, look at the Lions.
- 25:26Speaker 3: How often do you see them where it's just like
- 25:28Speaker 3: third and eight, it's third nine, Okay. You know the
- 25:31Speaker 3: passes come in, you know they're always in usually second
- 25:34Speaker 3: and manageable, third and manageable. There's some kind of play
- 25:37Speaker 3: action that's come in. There's some kind of motion attached
- 25:39Speaker 3: to it. There's some kind of element that prevents you
- 25:43Speaker 3: from just straight teeing off or gaming up their protection.
- 25:46Speaker 3: And part of it isn't or part of it is
- 25:48Speaker 3: you know, okay, you have good protection rules, or you've
- 25:51Speaker 3: got a good center or a quarterback that can diagnose
- 25:53Speaker 3: and set your protection in terms of what your ID
- 25:55Speaker 3: and where you're sliding and so on and so forth.
- 25:57Speaker 3: But staying in those manageable situation, staying out of known
- 26:02Speaker 3: passing situations and out of true dropback situations, that prevents
- 26:07Speaker 3: the defense from team and off Like you said, you
- 26:09Speaker 3: can't get into your bag of creativity from a coverage
- 26:12Speaker 3: and pressure standpoint on third and three or on third
- 26:15Speaker 3: and four like you can on third and nine and
- 26:19Speaker 3: third and eight and third and ten and playing all
- 26:21Speaker 3: these games. And that's just defenses have gotten so good
- 26:25Speaker 3: at changing the pre to postnat picture on offenses, both
- 26:28Speaker 3: on the back end with coverage and on the front
- 26:31Speaker 3: end with pressure schemes, sims, creepers, all that stuff tying together.
- 26:34Speaker 3: We're seeing how many teams is your The Vikings are
- 26:36Speaker 3: a good example. The Bills are a good example. Run
- 26:38Speaker 3: in creepers and sims, and then on the back end
- 26:42Speaker 3: of it, when they're still dropping seven, they're running like
- 26:44Speaker 3: a non traditional Tampa two and you're trying so you're
- 26:47Speaker 3: trying to figure out who's rushing. They might be gaming
- 26:49Speaker 3: up your protection you might have kept in one or
- 26:51Speaker 3: two extra dudes to block when you didn't need to,
- 26:53Speaker 3: So now you have less guys out in the route distribution,
- 26:56Speaker 3: and then you're trying to figure out who the hell
- 26:58Speaker 3: is the Tampa player is one one of those safeties?
- 27:00Speaker 3: Dropping is like a robber or a whole player did
- 27:03Speaker 3: the slot just drop as one of the split field safeties?
- 27:06Speaker 3: Like you're trying to process all of that, you can
- 27:09Speaker 3: mitigate a significant chunk of it by just staying in
- 27:12Speaker 3: more manageable down in distances situations. And also too, if
- 27:16Speaker 3: you are in third and four, third and three, you
- 27:18Speaker 3: get confused on that look cool, you can dump it
- 27:20Speaker 3: down to the checkdown and maybe he gets all three,
- 27:22Speaker 3: or maybe he gets two or three and gets you
- 27:24Speaker 3: to fourth and one or fourth and short. Probably not
- 27:26Speaker 3: gonna happen if you're on third and long or second
- 27:29Speaker 3: and long and kind of blending all those things together.
- 27:31Speaker 3: I just I think it's such an important point because
- 27:34Speaker 3: the meta for so many people now is pass the ball,
- 27:38Speaker 3: Pass the ball, pass the ball, and metrics all say it,
- 27:41Speaker 3: but they forget how the run game ties into that,
- 27:45Speaker 3: how it opens up defenses, how it sets things up
- 27:49Speaker 3: even from a past standpoint and why you want to
- 27:51Speaker 3: avoid those true dropback situations. The Saints and Cardinals are
- 27:55Speaker 3: a good example this year. When they were clicking those
- 27:56Speaker 3: first three weeks, they weren't coming out and just okay,
- 27:59Speaker 3: you know it's gonna No. They're working in play action.
- 28:01Speaker 3: Or if you're the Cards you're working in all the
- 28:03Speaker 3: Kyler Murray stuff and all the mess action in the
- 28:05Speaker 3: backfield with him and the running back and if he
- 28:07Speaker 3: keep it, is he reading or they run a modern
- 28:09Speaker 3: natriple options stuff. You want to keep the defense guessing.
- 28:12Speaker 3: You want to have every possibility accounted for defensively if
- 28:16Speaker 3: you are in an offense, and when you get into
- 28:18Speaker 3: those true dropback situations, that's where defenses can one get
- 28:21Speaker 3: into their bag. Two that's where your options offensively are limited.
- 28:26Speaker 3: And then if you add in teams that have really
- 28:28Speaker 3: good talent on that side of the ball, like the
- 28:29Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens and like the Houston Texans a little bit,
- 28:32Speaker 3: which we'll get into. Yeah, it just compounds so many issues.
- 28:36Speaker 3: I went on, I was gonna pull it up, but
- 28:39Speaker 3: the video is like being weird. I found that clip
- 28:41Speaker 3: because I tweeted it on Twitter. Of that Ravens drop eight.
- 28:46Speaker 3: It was third and seven in the first quarter though
- 28:49Speaker 3: or second quarter, those low hole players. So yeah, Meta
- 28:52Speaker 3: BK is lined up in a shade on the center,
- 28:56Speaker 3: he engages and then drops out. It's him, Rokwan and
- 29:02Speaker 3: Kyle Hamilton are the three low hole players, like your boss, dudes,
- 29:07Speaker 3: that's a lot of arms. That's yeah, that sucks. And
- 29:11Speaker 3: then I'm like the back end, like everybody's just locked
- 29:13Speaker 3: up because the Bill's wide receivers aren't creating separation. Yeah,
- 29:16Speaker 3: like you're just in hell. And the Ravens on both
- 29:18Speaker 3: sides of the ball really had the Bills in hell.
- 29:20Speaker 3: But from that side of it, I think a lot
- 29:22Speaker 3: of it stemmed from the run game went away game
- 29:25Speaker 3: script kind of backed them into a corner, and that
- 29:27Speaker 3: corner that they got backed into was more true dropback
- 29:30Speaker 3: situations and or known passing situations. And that's that's just
- 29:34Speaker 3: not that's not where you want to live if you're
- 29:36Speaker 3: anybody in the NFL today, but especially this Bill is yes, yeah.
- 29:40Speaker 1: It's this personnel. It's a terrible place to live. But
- 29:44Speaker 1: it actually brings up one of my favorite blitzes I
- 29:46Speaker 1: think I saw all weekend. It actually comes from the
- 29:48Speaker 1: college game Oklahoma and Auburn. Auburn throws a pick six.
- 29:52Speaker 3: Oh, I know, bitch you're talking about.
- 29:54Speaker 1: Has everybody mugged at the line of striviage. There's like
- 29:57Speaker 1: seven people at the line of scrimmage and they drop
- 30:01Speaker 1: five of them. Yeah, only two people rushed from the edge.
- 30:05Speaker 1: They think the slant's gonna be opened, pick six, Good luck.
- 30:09Speaker 1: Like I said, playing quarterback is really freaking hard. So
- 30:12Speaker 1: you got to trying to diagnose all of that in
- 30:15Speaker 1: the span of like maybe two and a half seconds,
- 30:18Speaker 1: because if you don't, you're either gonna get cracked or
- 30:21Speaker 1: you got to go into chaos mode outside the pocket,
- 30:25Speaker 1: which is again high variance. So I think for the Bills,
- 30:28Speaker 1: the biggest thing, especially against this Texans team, is staying
- 30:32Speaker 1: out of those obvious passing situations, because not only do
- 30:35Speaker 1: the Texans want to tee off on you, they got
- 30:38Speaker 1: two dudes on the edge that will tee off on you.
- 30:42Speaker 3: They will crush you, yeah, and not think twice about it.
- 30:45Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 30:46Speaker 3: I love that, And so I wanted to use that
- 30:47Speaker 3: piece to kind of set the table for this conversation
- 30:50Speaker 3: one because I think it puts a little bit of
- 30:52Speaker 3: that of the Bills offense into perspective this year, especially
- 30:55Speaker 3: coming out of that Ravens game, but then also going
- 30:57Speaker 3: into this upcoming game against the Houston Texans. And now
- 31:01Speaker 3: so now that we've done that set the table, now
- 31:04Speaker 3: we get into the main, the main dish, the crux
- 31:06Speaker 3: of the show, the critical elements that will decide Bills
- 31:09Speaker 3: versus Texans. For those who don't know what's gonna happen,
- 31:13Speaker 3: is myself and Jperre each way and give our top
- 31:14Speaker 3: three matchup pieces that will decide Bills versus Texans. He
- 31:18Speaker 3: doesn't know my answers, I don't know his. And they
- 31:19Speaker 3: could be anything. It could be something large scale, It
- 31:22Speaker 3: could be something small scale. It could be one indigent
- 31:25Speaker 3: visual player. It could be a player und player matchup, position, group, coverage,
- 31:29Speaker 3: structure versus a specific concept. It could be anything as schematically,
- 31:32Speaker 3: structurally individual either side of the ball, as holistic or
- 31:36Speaker 3: as granular as you would like it to be. For
- 31:38Speaker 3: those of you joining us live here on this episode,
- 31:40Speaker 3: feel free to comment on each of our aspects or elements.
- 31:45Speaker 3: Feel free to put up yours into the chat. Any thoughts, questions, comments,
- 31:48Speaker 3: you can, concerns. You gotta put it up into the chat.
- 31:50Speaker 3: It will bring them up as quickly and as humanly
- 31:52Speaker 3: as possible. Jp you are the guests, you have the floor.
- 31:57Speaker 3: Feel free to go in any particular or or if
- 32:00Speaker 3: you have them ranked, if they're all equal, you know
- 32:02Speaker 3: the drill. The floor is yours, godspeed.
- 32:04Speaker 1: My first one is four words Nico Collins in breakers.
- 32:09Speaker 1: Nice if you don't know, Nico Collins leads the NFL
- 32:12Speaker 1: in receiving yards this year.
- 32:13Speaker 3: He's very good.
- 32:15Speaker 1: Yeah, he's really good. Gets four hundred and eighty nine
- 32:18Speaker 1: receiving yards so far this season, according to sports Info
- 32:23Speaker 1: Solutions about it's an absurd number. I think one hundred
- 32:31Speaker 1: and twenty five, one hundred and sixty eight of those
- 32:35Speaker 1: receiving yards have come on slants, posts and digs. That
- 32:39Speaker 1: is what he does. He is such a big, strong,
- 32:44Speaker 1: fast receiver that he just dominates on those in breakers
- 32:49Speaker 1: because you have to worry so much about it him
- 32:52Speaker 1: beating you up at the top of the route and
- 32:54Speaker 1: he just boom, He's blasting right past you. And then CJ.
- 32:57Speaker 1: Stroud I think is the perfect evolution, Like it's gonna
- 33:04Speaker 1: sat hilarious. He's like the perfect cell of like Shanahan quarterbacks.
- 33:09Speaker 1: He is. He has maximized this entire offense and the
- 33:14Speaker 1: ability to play on script and off script. But where
- 33:17Speaker 1: he does it so well is on those in breakers.
- 33:21Speaker 1: You watch soccer a lot.
- 33:22Speaker 3: He is.
- 33:24Speaker 1: He is the midfielder that always can put a beautifully
- 33:28Speaker 1: placed through ball. He's Kevin de Bruyna. He is so
- 33:34Speaker 1: good at putting pace on the ball where you don't
- 33:36Speaker 1: have to slow down. And that's what Nico Collins does.
- 33:39Speaker 1: He gets on those in breakers and they hit him.
- 33:42Speaker 3: Over and over. I pulled up his route treat from
- 33:46Speaker 3: Next Gen from Week four against the Jags, and it's
- 33:50Speaker 3: literally it's all just everything and posts.
- 33:55Speaker 1: They know what he does well. They know what this
- 33:57Speaker 1: offense does well. And I think that's something that the
- 34:00Speaker 1: Bills are gonna have to be aware of. I know
- 34:02Speaker 1: Diggs is gonna get a lot of the attention. Nico
- 34:04Speaker 1: Collins is their wide receiver one. He is third. He
- 34:07Speaker 1: has third highest EPA among receivers with ten targets at
- 34:10Speaker 1: least ten targets on those routes. He is a bully
- 34:15Speaker 1: on that route and c J. Stroud on those routes
- 34:17Speaker 1: also a ninety point three percent on target rate, A
- 34:22Speaker 1: ten point seven a dot and thirteen point four total EPA.
- 34:26Speaker 1: That is that's pretty good. That's pretty good for a quarterback.
- 34:30Speaker 1: On those end breakers, you have to insulate your corners
- 34:34Speaker 1: on those. You have to be able to insulate those
- 34:36Speaker 1: guys but also protect your linebackers because you don't want
- 34:40Speaker 1: to have them in a bind where c J. Stroud
- 34:43Speaker 1: is so good with those high lows y he's so
- 34:46Speaker 1: good at manipulating defenders. He can move that linebacker and
- 34:50Speaker 1: then hit Nico Collins coming right behind them. Or if
- 34:53Speaker 1: it's like third and four, he doesn't have to hit
- 34:54Speaker 1: that dig. He'll just throw the short, He'll just throw
- 34:57Speaker 1: the hook route, and all of a sudden you're in
- 34:59Speaker 1: this bind. I think, with Buffalo still being kind of
- 35:02Speaker 1: depleted among the second level, you want to keep your
- 35:06Speaker 1: linebackers out of those situations. I'm curious if I mean,
- 35:10Speaker 1: you really cannot play like Cover three to kind of
- 35:13Speaker 1: flood that intermediate area because all he's gonna do is
- 35:16Speaker 1: just like those bang eights and those gigs, He's just
- 35:20Speaker 1: gonna hammer them and CJ's gonna throw them every single time.
- 35:23Speaker 1: So you're gonna need those safeties. You're gonna need a
- 35:26Speaker 1: big Taylor rap game. Those guys coming off the roof
- 35:30Speaker 1: to kind of help on those routes, because if you
- 35:33Speaker 1: give up those portions of the offense to Houston, they're
- 35:37Speaker 1: gonna eat you alive.
- 35:39Speaker 3: I love I can't tell you how much I love
- 35:41Speaker 3: that you led with Nico Collins because I love Nico Collins.
- 35:45Speaker 3: I think he is yes, and everything is relative to
- 35:49Speaker 3: I think how players get talk about in the shine
- 35:51Speaker 3: they get I think offensively, Nico Collins is the most
- 35:55Speaker 3: underrated player in football on the offensive side of the ball,
- 35:57Speaker 3: and then defensively, I'm still gonna bang this drum. I
- 36:00Speaker 3: think Max Crosby is still the most underrated player just
- 36:02Speaker 3: because he's one of the top like three edges in football,
- 36:05Speaker 3: but does not get talked about that. It's always like, oh,
- 36:07Speaker 3: look at him hustling and doing so much for the Raiders,
- 36:10Speaker 3: but nah, he is a monster against the run and
- 36:13Speaker 3: the pass. Just to put into perspective, you know, because
- 36:16Speaker 3: people might say, well, yeah, but it's a small sample size.
- 36:19Speaker 3: Maybe Nico's not that good last year. In the twenty
- 36:23Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, who want to sound like Tweetybird from
- 36:26Speaker 3: Looney Tunes? In the twenty twenty three season, amongst one
- 36:30Speaker 3: hundred and twenty eight players that saw at least fifty
- 36:33Speaker 3: targets per Sports Info Solutions, Nico Collins was tied for
- 36:38Speaker 3: second in yards per route run, second in EPA per target,
- 36:42Speaker 3: fourth in total receiving EPA, second in quarterback rating when targeted,
- 36:47Speaker 3: eighth im positive play percentage, eighth in yards per catch,
- 36:51Speaker 3: and tied for second in broken tackles. He is big,
- 36:55Speaker 3: he is strong, he is fast. He is a good
- 36:58Speaker 3: route runner. He has no fear operating in the seam
- 37:01Speaker 3: or operating in the intermediate anywhere, probably because he's bigger
- 37:05Speaker 3: than you or just as physical as you are, no
- 37:06Speaker 3: matter what position you're playing. And to your point, his
- 37:09Speaker 3: relationship with Stroud is so good. I did a lot
- 37:14Speaker 3: of studying on the Texans offense, the Rams offense, and
- 37:16Speaker 3: the Lions offense in the offseason, I mean every team
- 37:20Speaker 3: in general, but especially those three. Once I was done
- 37:22Speaker 3: doing everything on every team, because I thought those three teams,
- 37:26Speaker 3: for different reasons, had various elements that I thought the
- 37:28Speaker 3: Bill should borrow from and incorporate into their offense this year,
- 37:31Speaker 3: based on how they were built and so much of
- 37:33Speaker 3: the Texans and I watched eight I watched eight games
- 37:38Speaker 3: for the Texans once I started deep diving, and every
- 37:41Speaker 3: game is literally just like, yeah, here's a dig okay,
- 37:43Speaker 3: here's a post Okay, Like oh you know, here's like
- 37:45Speaker 3: a deep hook where you slightly turn towards the numbers. Oh,
- 37:48Speaker 3: there's a slant, okay, there's like an over okay. Like
- 37:51Speaker 3: everything is just send him over the middle. And Stroud
- 37:54Speaker 3: is so good at seeing everything between the numbers and
- 37:58Speaker 3: holding linebackers manipulate safeties. And he's also very good layering
- 38:03Speaker 3: those throws between the second and third level or fitting
- 38:06Speaker 3: it in between two hooke to curl players with precision placement.
- 38:09Speaker 3: This isn't like let me throw it and my guy
- 38:11Speaker 3: has to go low or turn back. It's on the numbers.
- 38:14Speaker 3: He's pinning it on dudes face masks with precision. And
- 38:18Speaker 3: then you tie in how the offense operates. So I
- 38:21Speaker 3: love that opening piece from you, and it ties into
- 38:25Speaker 3: one of mine. I had no order. I was just
- 38:26Speaker 3: gonna go based off of what you went with. So
- 38:29Speaker 3: this is similar to mine, but I labeled it broad term,
- 38:32Speaker 3: kind of like what I did last week for Bill's Ravens.
- 38:35Speaker 3: Very similar, So I titled a talent versus scheme the
- 38:39Speaker 3: Texans offense versus the Bills defense. We'll see what happens
- 38:42Speaker 3: from an injury perspective for the Texans. But you have
- 38:45Speaker 3: Nico Collins, Stefan Diggs, Tank Dell if he plays Laramie Tunsel,
- 38:49Speaker 3: if he plays CJ. Stroud. I think Joe Mixon is
- 38:53Speaker 3: still a quality running back. Shack Mason's been kind of
- 38:55Speaker 3: up and down, but it's still like Shack Mason. But
- 38:57Speaker 3: regardless of that, Nico Digs, Dell, Tunsel, Stroud are legit.
- 39:02Speaker 3: Nico and Tunsel are all pro dudes right now. Stefan
- 39:06Speaker 3: Diggs is a former one maybe still kind of has
- 39:09Speaker 3: that game a little bit left in him. You have
- 39:11Speaker 3: legitimate studs on the Texans offense, and Nico Collins is
- 39:15Speaker 3: one of them. I don't need to get into too
- 39:16Speaker 3: much of it, like you talked about, and then you
- 39:20Speaker 3: juxtapose what they have with talent versus the Bills defense
- 39:24Speaker 3: and the Bills and I don't mean this negatively. They
- 39:27Speaker 3: are a system defense. We know what they are. Their
- 39:30Speaker 3: assignment sound, they are substance overflash. It's the reason guys
- 39:34Speaker 3: like Levi Wallace and Dane Jackson can be multiple year
- 39:38Speaker 3: starters for them and perform admirably to actually like well,
- 39:41Speaker 3: they're about pre to post snap coverage shifts and disguises
- 39:44Speaker 3: four down even front, mixing some sims and creepers as
- 39:47Speaker 3: their quote unquote blitzes along with some actual blitzer and
- 39:50Speaker 3: five man pressures every now and again. Bill's also have
- 39:53Speaker 3: the lowest blitzer rate in the league at thirteen point
- 39:55Speaker 3: five percent. Is a little fun fact there. They're coverage
- 39:58Speaker 3: diverse this year. You see a out of Cover three,
- 40:01Speaker 3: Cover two, both regular Cover two and Tampa two. They'll
- 40:04Speaker 3: get creative with the non traditional Tampa stuff, and then
- 40:06Speaker 3: Cover four. Then they'll mix in a bit of Cover
- 40:08Speaker 3: one and Cover six. But like you talked about, they're
- 40:11Speaker 3: banged up at the second level. Arguably they're two best
- 40:14Speaker 3: players are Taron Johnson and Matt Milano, both all pros.
- 40:17Speaker 3: Milano definitely is not playing. Taron Johnson maybe plays, but
- 40:21Speaker 3: probably not. Terrell Bernard, their other linebacker who was ascending
- 40:25Speaker 3: it on a high trajectory, not playing this week maybe
- 40:28Speaker 3: kind of potentially, but probably not. And then you're looking
- 40:32Speaker 3: at that second level, like you talked about, so backups
- 40:34Speaker 3: with both linebacker spots backups at the nickel spot. You
- 40:38Speaker 3: also were maybe banged up at defensive tackle with Austin
- 40:41Speaker 3: Johnson being hurt. You're also maybe banged up at safety
- 40:43Speaker 3: with Taylor Rapp. We'll see if he plays. Von Miller
- 40:46Speaker 3: is also a no go now because that suspension finally
- 40:48Speaker 3: came down after the domestic abuse incident. What was it
- 40:51Speaker 3: eighteen months ago or wherever it came down. So does
- 40:55Speaker 3: the Bill's system or can the Bill system went out
- 40:58Speaker 3: and overcome the Texans talent? Do we get some strong
- 41:01Speaker 3: individual performances from the Bill's defense And whether we get
- 41:05Speaker 3: one or both of those, is it enough versus the
- 41:08Speaker 3: Texans offense that has significant talent on it. But aside
- 41:11Speaker 3: from that, is also sound schematically like they we talked
- 41:16Speaker 3: about it. They haven't hit their stride yet, but we
- 41:18Speaker 3: know there's another point. I'm gonna get into it a
- 41:20Speaker 3: bit like Shanahan offense. What that means, the stress it
- 41:23Speaker 3: puts on a defense, how CJ. Stroud functions within it.
- 41:27Speaker 3: Know their run game is not the best in the world,
- 41:29Speaker 3: and that kind of limits I think some of the
- 41:31Speaker 3: ceiling and potential of what they want to be, especially
- 41:33Speaker 3: from a Shanahan. You know, philosophy and identity perspective, But man,
- 41:37Speaker 3: this was an aspect last week for me where with
- 41:42Speaker 3: Bill's Ravens. But I had it on the flip side,
- 41:44Speaker 3: Like I thought the Bills offensive scheme was playing better
- 41:47Speaker 3: than the Ravens scheme going into that game. But I
- 41:50Speaker 3: thought the Ravens just had much better talent on that
- 41:52Speaker 3: side of the ball. Like they had three legitimate all
- 41:55Speaker 3: pros metabek Rokwan, Kyle Hamilton and then Travis Jones is
- 41:59Speaker 3: playing ball, always playing some good ball, Humphrey's playing some
- 42:02Speaker 3: good ball. And on the Bill side, you have good
- 42:06Speaker 3: role players. But they were winning with scheme and this
- 42:09Speaker 3: game at that game, the game script kind of forced
- 42:12Speaker 3: them out of that scheme. And not only do the
- 42:14Speaker 3: Ravens have a good game plan and good scheme, but
- 42:16Speaker 3: their talent dominated. And so now I wonder from that
- 42:19Speaker 3: flip side, Yeah, like Benford and Douglas have had good years.
- 42:23Speaker 3: I think they're a really good corner tandem. Now you
- 42:25Speaker 3: got Nico Collins who's just as big as you and
- 42:28Speaker 3: just as physical as you, and faster and a great
- 42:31Speaker 3: route runner and has this great rapport. And then aside
- 42:34Speaker 3: from him, You've got Stefan Diggs who's working in a
- 42:36Speaker 3: variety of ways, and if Tanked Dell comes through, you're
- 42:38Speaker 3: playing with backups at that second level. Stroud loves to
- 42:41Speaker 3: attack that between the numbers and the intermediate and like
- 42:44Speaker 3: you said, you talked about the stats between him and
- 42:46Speaker 3: Nico and where Nico's running all those routes, and Bill's
- 42:49Speaker 3: fans can just think how open was Nelson Agalore Sunday Night,
- 42:52Speaker 3: How open was Mark Andrews, How open was Isaiah Likely
- 42:56Speaker 3: that's gonna get worse with how the Texans like to attack,
- 42:59Speaker 3: or potentially maybe not because their run game isn't as strong,
- 43:01Speaker 3: so maybe your second level isn't getting sucked in. But
- 43:04Speaker 3: I think that's such a great point and I wanted
- 43:06Speaker 3: to tie mine in off of it, just because I
- 43:08Speaker 3: think it matters so much, and again not to make
- 43:11Speaker 3: a joke, but so much of the conversation for Bills
- 43:14Speaker 3: fans is gonna be Stefon Diggs and Stefon Diggs or
- 43:16Speaker 3: even Tanked Dell for some I know a lot of
- 43:18Speaker 3: Bills fans like Tank Dell and wanted him to be
- 43:20Speaker 3: a Bill. The focus should be Nico Collins. I don't
- 43:23Speaker 3: care about the off the field storyline. Yes, he is
- 43:26Speaker 3: one hundred percent the edgend of that offense. He is
- 43:28Speaker 3: a stud. He is right now legitimately before this season started,
- 43:33Speaker 3: like at worst, I had him as like a top
- 43:35Speaker 3: eight or nine wide receiver. He is a legit one.
- 43:38Speaker 3: He is a stud. If you wanted to throw him
- 43:40Speaker 3: up into the top five, I got no qualms with that.
- 43:43Speaker 3: And he does it from production, but also like precision.
- 43:47Speaker 3: This isn't like, well he's top five because of production. No,
- 43:50Speaker 3: he's got the numbers to also match with the refinement
- 43:54Speaker 3: and the skill set and the traits and the frame.
- 43:56Speaker 3: Dude is the complete package and an absolute monster. He
- 43:59Speaker 3: one hundred percent should be the focal point of this
- 44:01Speaker 3: of this conversation when it starts with their offense, aside
- 44:03Speaker 3: from c J. Stroud and understandably like.
- 44:07Speaker 1: To keep it in perspective of what Nico Collins is doing,
- 44:10Speaker 1: especially on those inbreakers. Last season, Nico Collins had a
- 44:16Speaker 1: ninety five percent first down rate, so crazy on those inbreakers. Yes,
- 44:24Speaker 1: and the only reason he was second in the NFL
- 44:26Speaker 1: among guys with at least twenty targets on those routes
- 44:29Speaker 1: is because Josh Reynolds somehow had one hundred percent first
- 44:32Speaker 1: down rate on those things.
- 44:35Speaker 3: That's ridiculous.
- 44:37Speaker 1: He is. As much as c J. Stroud has maximized
- 44:40Speaker 1: this offense, Nico Collins has also maximized what you can
- 44:44Speaker 1: do on the outside. You allow, for Stefan Diggs two
- 44:49Speaker 1: aids gracefully into a one beat or a receiver to
- 44:53Speaker 1: you allow Tank Dell to do kind of more of
- 44:56Speaker 1: the explosive downfield stuff and more of the gadgety stuff.
- 44:59Speaker 1: But I like what you said when it comes to
- 45:02Speaker 1: scheme versus talent, because I think while the Texans have
- 45:06Speaker 1: a very good offensive scheme, I think it is also
- 45:09Speaker 1: maximized by the dudes that they have, which is of
- 45:11Speaker 1: course what you want. You know, you have guys like
- 45:14Speaker 1: Stroud who will put the ball right in. You can
- 45:18Speaker 1: you can't even hand the ball off at the same
- 45:21Speaker 1: precision as HEJ. Stroud throws with, and now you have
- 45:24Speaker 1: guys like Nico Collins. I think the offensive line has
- 45:26Speaker 1: gone through a lot of penalties this year.
- 45:29Speaker 3: An a ton of pre snap stuff too, like illegal formation,
- 45:32Speaker 3: illegal shifts like that's really that killed him a ton.
- 45:36Speaker 3: All credit to Minnesota for the game plan they had
- 45:38Speaker 3: the execution, but there were a bunch of snaps in
- 45:40Speaker 3: that game where the Texans would convert a first down
- 45:42Speaker 3: or third down into a first down, they called back
- 45:44Speaker 3: for false starts or penalties. A lot of pre snap
- 45:47Speaker 3: stuff all on the offensive line, just real clunky.
- 45:49Speaker 1: There was a point in the Minnesota game where they
- 45:51Speaker 1: had three straight false starts. Yes, and then on the
- 45:54Speaker 1: final play after the false start in illegal formation. Yeah. Yeah,
- 45:59Speaker 1: it was one of those days.
- 46:01Speaker 3: It backed them up at a like third and sixteen,
- 46:02Speaker 3: I think, after being like third and short or something,
- 46:05Speaker 3: and I was just like, oh my god, Like this
- 46:06Speaker 3: is this is the microcosm of like, it's not your day, man,
- 46:09Speaker 3: just go It's one of those days.
- 46:12Speaker 1: It's just one of those days. The Texans currently lead
- 46:14Speaker 1: the NFL and false start penalties called against them. They
- 46:17Speaker 1: have twelve false starts so far, and they are in
- 46:21Speaker 1: the top ten when it comes to holding. I think
- 46:24Speaker 1: this defense is going to have to remain structurally intact,
- 46:29Speaker 1: largely because as good as I think the Bills defense
- 46:34Speaker 1: is played, they have shown, like last week, this scheme
- 46:37Speaker 1: can be broken when you have game breakers, and the
- 46:41Speaker 1: Texans have a whole lot of game breakers. On the
- 46:44Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball, so remaining structurally intact, but
- 46:48Speaker 1: also protecting those middle those linebackers and those nickel defenders
- 46:54Speaker 1: who haven't really played a lot or played a lot
- 46:56Speaker 1: against This type of talent is going to be pivotal.
- 47:00Speaker 1: I have to see, like I said, a big game
- 47:02Speaker 1: from Taylor, rat from Cole Bishop. It's gonna have to
- 47:05Speaker 1: take those guys hammering down hard on those in breakers
- 47:09Speaker 1: to kind of break up those windows and just force
- 47:12Speaker 1: them to go over your head. Yeah, if Nico Collins
- 47:15Speaker 1: beats you with a fifty yard acrobatic catch, it's like, okay,
- 47:19Speaker 1: like that's just you. You really can't do much about that.
- 47:23Speaker 1: But as long as you give them those twelve to
- 47:27Speaker 1: fifteen yard windows on digs and posts and those slants,
- 47:32Speaker 1: they're going to still be a machine offensively.
- 47:36Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of like you know what Tom Brady
- 47:40Speaker 3: was with like Danny Woodhead and James White and just
- 47:43Speaker 3: like chucking it down to the running backs at like
- 47:46Speaker 3: two or three yards past the line and them getting
- 47:48Speaker 3: like five or six yards. The Texans version of that
- 47:51Speaker 3: is like twelve to fifteen yard in breakers and just
- 47:54Speaker 3: killing you in the intermediate. So it's not like okay,
- 47:56Speaker 3: like we'll give that up and let them march down
- 47:59Speaker 3: the field in twelve plays. No, if you give that
- 48:00Speaker 3: to the Texans, they're going to march down the field
- 48:02Speaker 3: in like five or six and gouge you. So yeah,
- 48:05Speaker 3: like you got to clamp down on those routes. And
- 48:08Speaker 3: I think the Bills also have some vulnerability, like in
- 48:12Speaker 3: their spine a little bit, which which ties into kind
- 48:15Speaker 3: of one of my points that we'll get to in
- 48:17Speaker 3: a bit. Yeah, that's just it's so well said for
- 48:20Speaker 3: how how they like to attack, where they like to operate,
- 48:24Speaker 3: and why these guys are gonna matter so much. And
- 48:26Speaker 3: again especially on a week where we'll see if Trell
- 48:30Speaker 3: Bernard plays. He's still coming back from that peck injury.
- 48:33Speaker 3: But even if he plays, he's not gonna have full
- 48:35Speaker 3: range of motion. He's not gonna be one hundred percent.
- 48:37Speaker 3: And it's like, okay, do you how much better is
- 48:41Speaker 3: that him there than bial in spector And then you're
- 48:44Speaker 3: coupling it, give him the rest of everything at the
- 48:45Speaker 3: second level what you have at the safeties. There's some
- 48:47Speaker 3: questions there, like we talked about is it wrapping Hamlin?
- 48:50Speaker 3: Is it Hamlin? And Bishop like, what do you get
- 48:52Speaker 3: in the safety play wasn't great. I mean, nobody on
- 48:54Speaker 3: defense really played great against Baltimore. Yeah, it's a man.
- 48:58Speaker 3: And I love your game breaker comment. Like the Ravens offense,
- 49:01Speaker 3: it's like, oh sweet, Like Lamar's a monster and Henry's
- 49:05Speaker 3: a monster. Don't let them get going. You couldn't even
- 49:07Speaker 3: finish that sentence. Then I was like, oh, they they
- 49:09Speaker 3: are going there. It is, it's over there. We go okay, cool,
- 49:13Speaker 3: And then after that they just leaned into it. The
- 49:15Speaker 3: whole rest of the game was just like misdirection and
- 49:19Speaker 3: eye candy and like, hey, we're gonna fake this bubble
- 49:22Speaker 3: over here, half back draw to Justice Hill for like twelve,
- 49:25Speaker 3: Oh we're gonna fake this. Quarterback drove with Lamar for thirteen.
- 49:27Speaker 3: Like everything stemmed off that and built off that, And
- 49:31Speaker 3: the Texans do that with their intermediate passing game with
- 49:34Speaker 3: Stroud and the inbreakers the Nico everything stems from that.
- 49:38Speaker 3: Regardless of what you see with Diggs or what you
- 49:40Speaker 3: see with Dell, their Dalton Schultz er Woods or the
- 49:43Speaker 3: run game, that is what the starting point is. And
- 49:46Speaker 3: then if they can get the run game going, bro
- 49:48Speaker 3: those those inbreakers off play action and they can start
- 49:51Speaker 3: to work in the deep crossers and oof like if
- 49:54Speaker 3: you're running dagger off of like the Little Twins off
- 49:57Speaker 3: a good play action.
- 49:58Speaker 1: Even those safety is in a re bad spot off
- 50:01Speaker 1: of those reactions. But I like what you said when
- 50:04Speaker 1: it comes to high they defended the Ravens offense because
- 50:07Speaker 1: it kind of ties into my next point because it
- 50:11Speaker 1: just felt like a lightning bolt, like the first play,
- 50:15Speaker 1: like Derrick Henry lightning bolt and it's all of a sudden,
- 50:17Speaker 1: like oh shit.
- 50:19Speaker 3: Like you know what that reminded me of twenty twenty one.
- 50:24Speaker 3: The Colts came to Buffalo after they lost to after
- 50:27Speaker 3: the Philip Rivers led Colts lost to the Bills in
- 50:30Speaker 3: the wildcard round. They come back, not philip Rivers anymore,
- 50:34Speaker 3: and they housed the Bills forty one to fifteen in Buffalo.
- 50:37Speaker 3: And all they did that game it was a ton
- 50:39Speaker 3: of crunch, which is trap and wham and then just
- 50:42Speaker 3: regular trap and regular wham. Jack Doyle was carrying defensive
- 50:47Speaker 3: linemen out of gaps left and right. They took advantage
- 50:50Speaker 3: of the Bills upfield nature Ravens did it off rip.
- 50:53Speaker 3: They took advantage of the upfield nature of the defensive
- 50:56Speaker 3: line and the fast flowing nature of the second level,
- 50:58Speaker 3: especially the linebackers. Ravens did that on that opening play.
- 51:01Speaker 3: They literally just ran crunch and took ed Oliver out
- 51:04Speaker 3: of the play, took Dake one out of the play,
- 51:06Speaker 3: had a number or had a hat on a hat
- 51:08Speaker 3: front side. Andrews climbs to the safety Dorny and Williams
- 51:12Speaker 3: reads the pull from the guard for the trap and
- 51:15Speaker 3: steps inside a little bit, which makes Linderbaum climb to
- 51:18Speaker 3: him easier to the second level. All he has to
- 51:20Speaker 3: do is stand there and seal him. And then yet
- 51:22Speaker 3: everything from that was all the time.
- 51:24Speaker 1: You got Derrick Henry and Rasseul Douglas and love Rasseul Douglas.
- 51:29Speaker 1: But hey, I respect it.
- 51:30Speaker 3: He's so good against the run. And I watched it.
- 51:33Speaker 3: I was like, why are you? And I understood a
- 51:35Speaker 3: little bit right like your crack replacing so you come
- 51:39Speaker 3: forward instead of in.
- 51:40Speaker 1: Loss like you saw. And then all of a sudden,
- 51:43Speaker 1: Derek Henry is running right where you left. But the
- 51:46Speaker 1: thing that stood out the most watching that game back
- 51:49Speaker 1: was just how physical the Ravens were up front. You know,
- 51:54Speaker 1: they played a lot of twenty two twenty one. I
- 51:57Speaker 1: played a lot of twelve and they.
- 51:59Speaker 3: Just, like the card to the Bills in Week one.
- 52:01Speaker 1: Fast them every single time, like you know, it's again,
- 52:06Speaker 1: it's a lot of x's and those. But when you
- 52:08Speaker 1: have a three hundred pounds full back, like just run
- 52:12Speaker 1: him into those defenders every time. One of the plays,
- 52:15Speaker 1: I think Daniel Folele and pat Riccard also mess up
- 52:19Speaker 1: because they both hit Dwan Smooth and it was a
- 52:21Speaker 1: place Smooth got called.
- 52:25Speaker 3: After. Yeah, he got level.
- 52:26Speaker 1: He was obliterated by six hundred and eighty pounds of
- 52:31Speaker 1: people running at him. And I know it's very simplistic,
- 52:36Speaker 1: but getting hit like that hurts and you don't want
- 52:39Speaker 1: to do it again. And what the Ravens were able
- 52:42Speaker 1: to do is they get in those big personnel. But
- 52:46Speaker 1: you have to worry about so many different things with
- 52:49Speaker 1: play the action, with likely coming out the backfield, with
- 52:52Speaker 1: Charlie Cohler coming out the backfield. Mark Andrews was there
- 52:55Speaker 1: for a big play, but then you have to worry
- 52:57Speaker 1: about getting hit by Derrick Henry over and over and
- 53:00Speaker 1: over again. I think one of the players in the
- 53:01Speaker 1: second half was a split flow read option and Dorian
- 53:06Speaker 1: Williams steps in hard because Derrick Henry's in the backfield,
- 53:10Speaker 1: He's charged up to hit Derrick Henry, and Lamar just
- 53:12Speaker 1: pulls it and runs for thirteen yards. Is it's that
- 53:16Speaker 1: is the dangerous nature of the Ravens offense that I think.
- 53:20Speaker 1: I don't think the Texans will be able to get
- 53:22Speaker 1: into that because they don't have a Derrick Henry and TJ.
- 53:24Speaker 1: Stroud is not Lamar Jackson. But it's that aggression of
- 53:29Speaker 1: the Bills. It's kind of similar sim different structure, but
- 53:33Speaker 1: similar play style to the Texans and how aggressive they
- 53:37Speaker 1: play their defenses that whoever takes advantage of whoever's aggression
- 53:41Speaker 1: better will probably end up winning this game.
- 53:44Speaker 3: Oh, I like it? Is that your official second point?
- 53:46Speaker 1: My second point actually is the aggression defending, the attacking,
- 53:50Speaker 1: the aggression of the Texans defense. Like I said up front,
- 53:54Speaker 1: this team is mean as hell. Bro. They are. They
- 53:58Speaker 1: are forty nine or South, and the way they've told
- 54:01Speaker 1: their defense is forty nine or South. They want to
- 54:04Speaker 1: get upfield and they want to hit you incredibly hard.
- 54:09Speaker 1: I will again the Bears game on Satnay Football, they
- 54:13Speaker 1: folded Kayleb Williams. I think like he was pressured on
- 54:17Speaker 1: like thirty five of his thirty six drop back.
- 54:20Speaker 3: Yeah, he was like like a one or two. They
- 54:22Speaker 3: just didn't know.
- 54:23Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's it's that kind of game where like
- 54:26Speaker 1: we said about staying on schedule and staying away from
- 54:29Speaker 1: true drop back situations, you want to stay out of
- 54:31Speaker 1: those against Houston because Houston knows. Like again with Dimiko
- 54:36Speaker 1: and San Francisco, you could tell when Demiico led teams
- 54:39Speaker 1: smell blood in the water and they would tee off
- 54:43Speaker 1: on teams. This Texan team knows when they smell blood
- 54:46Speaker 1: in the water, when it's second and long, third and long,
- 54:50Speaker 1: and they will hammer you over and over. Guys like
- 54:53Speaker 1: Danil Hunter, who is such a unique pass rusher because
- 54:58Speaker 1: you think a guy that's like six si to seventy
- 55:00Speaker 1: like Daniel Hunter would win with power and strength, and
- 55:03Speaker 1: he does. But his flexibility is unlike guys at that.
- 55:08Speaker 3: Size, and he's got what he's got moves and plan
- 55:11Speaker 3: for days.
- 55:11Speaker 1: He's just moves, he's doing diffing rips. And then Will
- 55:15Speaker 1: Anderson is just a giant ball of muscle. I'm met
- 55:19Speaker 1: him in Vegas, who now is out in Vegas for
- 55:22Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, and that is a massive human that
- 55:25Speaker 1: is a massive dude, and he's just this giant ball
- 55:29Speaker 1: of force. You know, Like I'm not comparing him to
- 55:32Speaker 1: Nick Bosa. I think that's that's lofty, and I know
- 55:36Speaker 1: I'll make those comparisons. But you see that play style
- 55:39Speaker 1: and the same motor. And then you get guys like
- 55:42Speaker 1: Tim Settle, like a like a Foley fo Bocassi who
- 55:47Speaker 1: hadn't made a great stop on the QB draw on
- 55:49Speaker 1: fourth down. And then you get to the second level
- 55:52Speaker 1: with azz A Shair, Henry Tote. Those guys play aggressive,
- 55:57Speaker 1: but where you get caught in that aggression is if
- 56:00Speaker 1: you come too hard downhill, that window is wide open.
- 56:04Speaker 1: And that's something where I think the Bills can take
- 56:06Speaker 1: advantage of them. According to FT and Fantasy, the Texans
- 56:12Speaker 1: thirty one point nine percent BVA over the middle of
- 56:15Speaker 1: the field is the tenth highest in the NFL, and
- 56:19Speaker 1: they're deep middle of the field. DVA is the highest
- 56:22Speaker 1: in the middle of the field, and you can play
- 56:24Speaker 1: like the Niners. But one of the big reasons the
- 56:28Speaker 1: Niners works is because they have Fred Warner. And Fred
- 56:31Speaker 1: Warner basically we made another soccer comparison. He is the
- 56:36Speaker 1: best defensive midfielder in football, he erases the entire middle
- 56:41Speaker 1: of the field. But the Texans don't really have that
- 56:45Speaker 1: guy yet. They're still trying to figure out who that
- 56:48Speaker 1: guy is going to be, and I don't know if
- 56:49Speaker 1: they have it on the roster. So I think Buffalo
- 56:53Speaker 1: can lean a lot into Trap into Crunch. If you
- 56:57Speaker 1: pulld Dion Dawkins, you want to get a lot of
- 57:00Speaker 1: those draw plays that the Ravens used to take out
- 57:04Speaker 1: the Bills aggressive nature on defense. That is something that
- 57:08Speaker 1: the Bills can use to take out the aggressive nature
- 57:10Speaker 1: of the Texans. And when you throw the ball downfield
- 57:14Speaker 1: against this team, this team is very aggressive. It playing
- 57:16Speaker 1: the ball there extingly, wants to catch interceptions. Kamario Lassler
- 57:21Speaker 1: wants to catch interceptions. And you can take advantage of
- 57:25Speaker 1: those windows over the middle of the field. You can
- 57:27Speaker 1: take those those areas where those linebackers are left, you
- 57:32Speaker 1: can take advantage of them. And like we said watching
- 57:34Speaker 1: the Jaguars game, there were deep shot opportunities over the
- 57:38Speaker 1: middle of the field, the big posts, the deep overs,
- 57:41Speaker 1: there are chances to attack this team.
- 57:43Speaker 3: The double move from Brian Thomas were there. Filthy he had,
- 57:49Speaker 3: he had and.
- 57:52Speaker 1: That was so good you can use that aggression against them.
- 57:56Speaker 1: So my biggest point for the Bills offense is how
- 58:00Speaker 1: you create a great a game plan that will use
- 58:03Speaker 1: that aggression. I mean the big Tank Bigsby run that
- 58:06Speaker 1: was like fifty eight yards was a drawplay where everybody
- 58:10Speaker 1: was fast flowing and Tank Bigsby just runs where they
- 58:13Speaker 1: all left. They had an ETN had a big one
- 58:16Speaker 1: on a crunch out of shotgun. It's those plays, you know,
- 58:21Speaker 1: where you can take advantage of this aggressive, fast flowing defense.
- 58:24Speaker 1: So how the Bills take advantage of that aggression just
- 58:28Speaker 1: like the aggression that they see from their own defense,
- 58:31Speaker 1: and fast flowing, attacking hard downhill is going to be
- 58:34Speaker 1: a great way to attack this Texas defense.
- 58:37Speaker 3: I love that point. I always think like Jalen Peatrie
- 58:42Speaker 3: symbolizes what the Texans are where it's just a hammer. Yeah,
- 58:46Speaker 3: that's it, Jake hammer chaos sometimes really out of control.
- 58:49Speaker 3: Like for every hit where he comes up and just
- 58:52Speaker 3: plasters somebody, he's just like wildly flailing and completely missing
- 58:55Speaker 3: a guy in space. But he will light you up.
- 58:58Speaker 3: He'll get some big plays. Yeah, they all are fast
- 59:00Speaker 3: flowing aggressive. I love you're tying in there. Too with
- 59:03Speaker 3: the Bills defense and what the Ravens did to the
- 59:05Speaker 3: Bills defense and how the Bills could do that by
- 59:07Speaker 3: extension to the Texans. I also wonder how much the
- 59:10Speaker 3: Texans do that to how much the Texans do that
- 59:12Speaker 3: to the Bills. But yeah, that was such a great point.
- 59:14Speaker 3: Like the whole Ravens whole offensive game plan was we're
- 59:18Speaker 3: gonna hit him in the mouth and we're going to
- 59:20Speaker 3: use like their core ideology against them. Like all you
- 59:24Speaker 3: have to do, Lamar is take the ball and just
- 59:27Speaker 3: do this over there and everybody's going over there, and
- 59:30Speaker 3: then you can just hand it off and go where
- 59:33Speaker 3: nobody was, or keep it yourself and go there, or
- 59:35Speaker 3: just do whatever you want. Well, you know, look to
- 59:37Speaker 3: the right and we'll throw something back to the left.
- 59:39Speaker 3: So much of it, and then you tie in the
- 59:41Speaker 3: running game getting going and not being proper and your
- 59:43Speaker 3: run fits and how much it's stressed the Bills. But yeah,
- 59:46Speaker 3: everything was based on using their strength against them, And
- 59:50Speaker 3: to your point there with the Texans defense, I just
- 59:53Speaker 3: really like that because there is so there is such
- 59:55Speaker 3: an attitude to the Texans defense with how they want
- 59:59Speaker 3: to play, like they want to run through your face. Well,
- 1:00:03Speaker 3: I think Will Anderson is probably a good example of
- 1:00:05Speaker 3: like of a microcosmo their mentality as well, like not
- 1:00:08Speaker 3: the most I mean, hell, the whole reason everybody started,
- 1:00:12Speaker 3: aside from like I guess, prospect fatigue, but everybody started,
- 1:00:15Speaker 3: or not everybody. Some people, some especially loud people, wanted
- 1:00:18Speaker 3: to start, start putting Tyree Wilson over Will Anderson in
- 1:00:22Speaker 3: the Prospect rankings a couple of years ago, and it
- 1:00:23Speaker 3: was like, well, you know Wilson's ceiling and the moves
- 1:00:27Speaker 3: you could have. Anderson doesn't really have a lot of
- 1:00:29Speaker 3: pass rush moves. It's just speed to power. And then
- 1:00:31Speaker 3: Will Anderson came in and Rookie was like, all I
- 1:00:33Speaker 3: need is speed to power. I'm going through everybody's works,
- 1:00:36Speaker 3: yet it works. I'm going through everybody's face and everybody's chest,
- 1:00:40Speaker 3: and I'm gonna do it so fast and violently and
- 1:00:43Speaker 3: physical that it's gonna be hard to anchor. It's gonna
- 1:00:46Speaker 3: be hard to chop me down and snatchtrap. And then
- 1:00:48Speaker 3: I'm also gonna play the run like that. And then
- 1:00:50Speaker 3: if you try, and you know, overseet early, I might
- 1:00:53Speaker 3: bust a move inside or I can turn that corner
- 1:00:55Speaker 3: because I'm athletic enough. Yeah, it's just punch you in
- 1:00:58Speaker 3: the face over and over. And I think the Bills
- 1:01:03Speaker 3: from a schematic perspective can take advantage of that as
- 1:01:07Speaker 3: long as they can stay on schedule from a game
- 1:01:11Speaker 3: script perspective, and so that you know, I'm going to
- 1:01:13Speaker 3: use that as a segway to tie it into one
- 1:01:14Speaker 3: of my points, which I literally just labeled a game
- 1:01:17Speaker 3: script and then the Bills offensive scheme versus the Texans
- 1:01:21Speaker 3: defense talent and aggressive nature. So I'm in a pretty
- 1:01:23Speaker 3: good lockstep with you. Like we talked about, like the
- 1:01:26Speaker 3: Bills just got into a spot versus the Ravens where
- 1:01:29Speaker 3: the run game became less viable, play action became less viable,
- 1:01:33Speaker 3: and you were basically chasing the dragon and living in
- 1:01:36Speaker 3: a world of known passing downs and distances, which I
- 1:01:40Speaker 3: think this is coming to light a little bit more now.
- 1:01:43Speaker 3: It's not ideal for any offense, but especially the Bills,
- 1:01:46Speaker 3: because they don't have the most natural separators at wide receiver,
- 1:01:50Speaker 3: nor do they have the most speed, which is I
- 1:01:52Speaker 3: tweeted earlier today, like the first three weeks for the Bills,
- 1:01:56Speaker 3: everything was clicking offensively, but it was all schematic. It
- 1:01:59Speaker 3: was Joe Brady literally kind of batting a thousand with
- 1:02:02Speaker 3: pushing the right buttons and pulling the right levers and
- 1:02:04Speaker 3: at the right time their scheming guys open. Josh Allen's
- 1:02:08Speaker 3: hitting his first read or his second read. Baby asked
- 1:02:10Speaker 3: to get the three, but it's not that often. He's
- 1:02:13Speaker 3: checking the ball down at five yards and guys are
- 1:02:15Speaker 3: running for eight to twelve. Like everything was working in
- 1:02:18Speaker 3: tandem with one another. But we saw against Baltimore, if
- 1:02:22Speaker 3: that script goes away a little bit, or you play
- 1:02:25Speaker 3: a team that has good talent on that side of
- 1:02:29Speaker 3: the ball, especially at premium positions, it can kind of
- 1:02:32Speaker 3: put you into hell, and it became harder to scheme
- 1:02:35Speaker 3: players open versus Baltimore, also harder to deal with the
- 1:02:38Speaker 3: Ravens digging into their bags of tricks, like we talked
- 1:02:40Speaker 3: about in true dropback situations or non passing situations, and
- 1:02:44Speaker 3: again like living in more of a known passing situation
- 1:02:48Speaker 3: and or more of a true drop back world opens
- 1:02:50Speaker 3: you up to more opportunities for the defense to game
- 1:02:53Speaker 3: up your protections or disguise the hell out of coverage
- 1:02:56Speaker 3: and working creativity. And again, if they have good talent
- 1:03:00Speaker 3: on that side of the ball, it can snowball into
- 1:03:02Speaker 3: a giant mess like Baltimore and I talked about it
- 1:03:05Speaker 3: last week. I thought the Ravens at three premium all
- 1:03:08Speaker 3: pro studs on the defensive side of the ball metabk
- 1:03:11Speaker 3: Rokwan and Kyle Hamilton, so they had one at each
- 1:03:14Speaker 3: level and then a good supporting cast. I think the
- 1:03:17Speaker 3: Texans also have three top tier Blue studs, not one,
- 1:03:20Speaker 3: or Blue Chips does not one in each level, but
- 1:03:22Speaker 3: you've got two on the D line with Hunter and
- 1:03:24Speaker 3: Will Anderson and Derek Stingley Junior. I know it can
- 1:03:28Speaker 3: be hard from a metric not everybody watches tape, and
- 1:03:30Speaker 3: I know it can be hard from an advanced metrics
- 1:03:33Speaker 3: perspective of kind of like judge corners, especially because a
- 1:03:36Speaker 3: lot of it is like target based or like nearest
- 1:03:39Speaker 3: defender based, and so you could be the nearest defender,
- 1:03:41Speaker 3: but that's not your guy, or that's not your responsibility,
- 1:03:44Speaker 3: so maybe you're getting dinged for something that's not your fault.
- 1:03:47Speaker 3: Derek Stingley Junior is a monster and the only reason, yes,
- 1:03:52Speaker 3: the only reason it's taken this long is because he's
- 1:03:55Speaker 3: been injured, which was one of the concerns coming out
- 1:03:57Speaker 3: of him are coming out about him when he came
- 1:03:59Speaker 3: out from the draft class, and this isn't me just
- 1:04:02Speaker 3: kind of stumping for him. He was my corner one
- 1:04:04Speaker 3: coming out that year. I had sauces and number two,
- 1:04:06Speaker 3: But I just love what Stingley did, And part of
- 1:04:08Speaker 3: it was the lore of like him showing up as
- 1:04:11Speaker 3: a true freshman and locking down Justin Jefferson and Jamar
- 1:04:15Speaker 3: Chase and that whole LSU wide receiver crew from day one,
- 1:04:18Speaker 3: like right off rip as a baby faced freshman, he
- 1:04:22Speaker 3: was like the best athlete and technical dude on the field.
- 1:04:24Speaker 3: He is a monster. And with the Bills what they
- 1:04:27Speaker 3: have at wide receiver, I'm not trying to, like, you know,
- 1:04:30Speaker 3: talk low about the Bills group, but Stingley is automatically
- 1:04:34Speaker 3: going to cancel out whoever he is covering versus the
- 1:04:36Speaker 3: Bills on Sunday, I don't care who it is wherever
- 1:04:39Speaker 3: he goes, especially if it's man go somewhere else. If
- 1:04:42Speaker 3: it's man coverage, he's locking. He forget it, Like you
- 1:04:44Speaker 3: don't have the horses to run with Stingley. He's got
- 1:04:46Speaker 3: your dude, it's over. And if it's zone, you have
- 1:04:49Speaker 3: to be super careful, and then tying into why game
- 1:04:53Speaker 3: script is important and running the ball and staying on schedule.
- 1:04:55Speaker 3: You alluded to to some of the Texans pass rush
- 1:04:59Speaker 3: capability the Texans passers on the year end. Granted, some
- 1:05:01Speaker 3: of this is skewed a little bit because that Bears
- 1:05:03Speaker 3: game is absolutely ridiculous, but their second in pressure rate,
- 1:05:07Speaker 3: fifth and sack percentage fourth in sacks. Daneil Hunter is
- 1:05:11Speaker 3: third in pressure rate. Will Anderson is fourth in pressure rate.
- 1:05:15Speaker 3: Hunter is second in total pressures, Anderson is sixth in
- 1:05:18Speaker 3: total pressures. As a team. They are ninth in blitz
- 1:05:21Speaker 3: rate at thirty point nine percent, so even more evidence
- 1:05:25Speaker 3: of why you need to stay on schedule and not
- 1:05:27Speaker 3: get into known passing situations or true dropbacks too often.
- 1:05:31Speaker 3: And then they're also twelfth in EPA per pass defensively
- 1:05:34Speaker 3: as well. The Ravens, again, they had a very good
- 1:05:37Speaker 3: game plan schematically, it was sound. They executed it at
- 1:05:40Speaker 3: a high level, but their dudes were dudes on Sunday
- 1:05:44Speaker 3: against the Bills, and they wrecked the game on that
- 1:05:46Speaker 3: side of the ball. I talked about it on Twitter
- 1:05:50Speaker 3: and the Minakis chimed in and we were kind of
- 1:05:51Speaker 3: going back and forth and bit on it like Kyle
- 1:05:53Speaker 3: Hamilton wrecked so much of what the Bills wanted to
- 1:05:57Speaker 3: do in Granted, you know he's a unicorn and has
- 1:05:58Speaker 3: that capability, but his ability to just close down on
- 1:06:02Speaker 3: whoever slot wide receiver, one of the tight ends play anywhere,
- 1:06:07Speaker 3: low hole player. He's playing middle linebacker and dropping into
- 1:06:09Speaker 3: the hook gurl. He's playing traditional safety. He's going everywhere.
- 1:06:13Speaker 3: They allowed him to gum up so much of that game,
- 1:06:16Speaker 3: and then Rokwan played well. Humphrey had multiple lockdown reps,
- 1:06:20Speaker 3: so did Nate Wiggins. Always had some legitimate, legitimate dominant.
- 1:06:25Speaker 1: Jones was a monster.
- 1:06:27Speaker 3: That was my biggest one. He has a hump move
- 1:06:30Speaker 3: against David Edwards, and David Edwards is good. He clubs
- 1:06:33Speaker 3: the hell out of him and then rips through him.
- 1:06:36Speaker 3: Edwards holds him, and Travis Jones still just motors through and.
- 1:06:41Speaker 1: Doesn't know. He is such a crazy athlete for three
- 1:06:45Speaker 1: hundred that it's impossible to move him. And they just
- 1:06:50Speaker 1: use him on stunts and loops and he is the crasher.
- 1:06:55Speaker 1: With Texans defense, they want to get you to five
- 1:06:59Speaker 1: zero your protection fable protection means every man has a
- 1:07:04Speaker 1: man it's it's man to man coverage, but for offensive line,
- 1:07:07Speaker 1: and what the Texans want you to do is leave
- 1:07:10Speaker 1: your guys isolated. That's where they that's where they wouldn't
- 1:07:13Speaker 1: the most. They want to mug up the protection. You
- 1:07:15Speaker 1: saw all the time with Demico and San Francisco, with
- 1:07:18Speaker 1: Fred Warner lined up right Mills.
- 1:07:20Speaker 3: Right over the center because he knows you got to
- 1:07:23Speaker 3: man it up. And then you got outside and it's
- 1:07:25Speaker 3: Bosa and whoever they want at that time too, it
- 1:07:27Speaker 3: was Bosa and Armstead and just rocking that whole crew.
- 1:07:31Speaker 3: And yeah, it's a good, great call.
- 1:07:32Speaker 1: Sorry now for the Texans instead of Warner, Bosa and
- 1:07:38Speaker 1: many who butoner Floyd this year, whoever on the other side,
- 1:07:43Speaker 1: it's now ziz Shair, who is a He is the
- 1:07:46Speaker 1: bullet bill from Mario Kart. He's the bullet nice Mario
- 1:07:50Speaker 1: cart And then you have the legs of the Doom
- 1:07:54Speaker 1: on the outside with Will and Anderson and Neil Hunter.
- 1:08:00Speaker 3: Who's Hawk and who's animal?
- 1:08:02Speaker 1: Oh hawk is absolutely Hawk is Daniel, Animal is Will
- 1:08:09Speaker 1: Anderson is a menace but in a different way. But
- 1:08:13Speaker 1: I think the way they want to win is by
- 1:08:16Speaker 1: getting you in those isolated one on one matchups. Then
- 1:08:19Speaker 1: they'll drop out a lineback and now you've wasted a guy.
- 1:08:22Speaker 1: You know, now you've wasted a running back can go
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: out protection, You're you're wasting a James Cook reception. You know,
- 1:08:28Speaker 1: if you keep him in the protect on those mugged
- 1:08:31Speaker 1: front you're wasting him as a pass catcher. And they
- 1:08:34Speaker 1: just drop out and that's where they win. That's where
- 1:08:37Speaker 1: they want to beat you. So I think for the Bills,
- 1:08:40Speaker 1: it is staying ahead of them. And like I said,
- 1:08:43Speaker 1: with their aggressive nature, it's staying ahead of them when
- 1:08:45Speaker 1: it comes to their aggression. They want to run, they
- 1:08:47Speaker 1: want to flow fast downhill and then want to trap play.
- 1:08:52Speaker 1: It's and the point you brought about Kyle Hamilton was
- 1:08:55Speaker 1: a some Niles that also stood out. Like one of
- 1:08:57Speaker 1: the first plays that he made, he absolutely blew up
- 1:08:59Speaker 1: a bubbles green where I think he like he tattooed somebody.
- 1:09:04Speaker 3: Oh so that they they give it to Shakir. Yeah,
- 1:09:08Speaker 3: and the Ravens are this. It's also good from Roquan
- 1:09:12Speaker 3: because the Ravens are blitzing. Roquan goes sees the quick
- 1:09:16Speaker 3: pass to Shakir, peels off from the blitz. Their Bills
- 1:09:20Speaker 3: are trying to run a tunnel screen. He hauls ass,
- 1:09:23Speaker 3: stays over the top of the block, forces Shakir to
- 1:09:26Speaker 3: cut back. But then this is where the beautiful part is.
- 1:09:29Speaker 3: Hamilton is like basically fitting right here, but that's where
- 1:09:33Speaker 3: Roquan goes. So then Hamilton puts on the brakes, fits
- 1:09:36Speaker 3: off for Roquan right in the alley and just fang yeah, enveloped.
- 1:09:41Speaker 1: And that was that was that was the tone. That
- 1:09:44Speaker 1: was the defensive set the tone. Know, we had the
- 1:09:47Speaker 1: deck Henry lightning bolt. That was the Ravens defense lightning bolt.
- 1:09:51Speaker 1: And you just you want to stay out of those
- 1:09:53Speaker 1: situations with the Texans because the Texans absolutely feed off
- 1:09:58Speaker 1: of those lightning bolts. They they want you to think,
- 1:10:01Speaker 1: oh shit, this team is out here hitting. This team
- 1:10:05Speaker 1: is trying to take your head off, and they want
- 1:10:08Speaker 1: to get you in those backs against the wall situations
- 1:10:12Speaker 1: because like I said, they just tee off on you.
- 1:10:15Speaker 1: So what you have to do is an offense, is
- 1:10:17Speaker 1: stay ahead of them. You know, you gotta hit the
- 1:10:19Speaker 1: trap plays, you gotta hit pull defenders. You want you
- 1:10:23Speaker 1: want to be able to use Josh Allen to kind
- 1:10:27Speaker 1: of attack the middle of the field. I think this
- 1:10:28Speaker 1: is also gonna be a big Dalton Kincaid game like
- 1:10:32Speaker 1: the Ravens game was, because you have you have the
- 1:10:35Speaker 1: match up there. Like you said with Stingley, I don't
- 1:10:37Speaker 1: know if it's gonna be Stingley on that side of
- 1:10:39Speaker 1: the field. Kamaria Laser can be beaten, but he's also
- 1:10:44Speaker 1: a big physical corner. So now you're your guy and
- 1:10:48Speaker 1: Keon Coleman, who is a big physical receiver, is going
- 1:10:51Speaker 1: up against a big physical corner and the separation might
- 1:10:54Speaker 1: not matter for Keon Coleman because he just wins at
- 1:10:56Speaker 1: the catchpoint every single play. Now you're going up against
- 1:10:59Speaker 1: a guy who absolutely wants you to try and do that.
- 1:11:02Speaker 1: So now you're thinking, all right, it's a Kincaid game.
- 1:11:06Speaker 1: It's a Khalisha Kere game in the slot because you
- 1:11:08Speaker 1: have the matchup there, you have the one on one
- 1:11:11Speaker 1: so now you just have to take advantage of those
- 1:11:14Speaker 1: of the aggression of that defense. All the time, when
- 1:11:16Speaker 1: I think about taking advantage of aggression, I think of
- 1:11:19Speaker 1: the uh the Patriots of Tom Brady used to running
- 1:11:22Speaker 1: a lot where he would run fake turn around and
- 1:11:24Speaker 1: then just donk over to gronk because the linebackers flow
- 1:11:28Speaker 1: fast to the run, and Gronk runs for twenty yards.
- 1:11:32Speaker 1: That's what you have. That's what you got to do
- 1:11:33Speaker 1: against this Texas team. They're gonna fly fast downhill. You
- 1:11:37Speaker 1: gotta Again, I hate to use the boxing reference, but
- 1:11:42Speaker 1: when they try and throw the haymaker, just slip it,
- 1:11:45Speaker 1: like you gotta slip it. You can't try and whether
- 1:11:48Speaker 1: that storm. You know, you can't try and stand there
- 1:11:50Speaker 1: and eat the punch because they're just gonna keep throwing
- 1:11:52Speaker 1: haymakers at you. So you just gotta slip it and
- 1:11:55Speaker 1: throw the uppercut.
- 1:11:56Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you slip it, they're vulnerable because they're
- 1:11:59Speaker 3: completely umpert. That's a great call with that Brady play
- 1:12:02Speaker 3: is burned into my brain. Yeah, over to Gronk or
- 1:12:04Speaker 3: in the same And then every time I'm always just
- 1:12:06Speaker 3: like why is no one there? Like why? And then
- 1:12:09Speaker 3: I got older and I was like, oh, I understand,
- 1:12:11Speaker 3: but that.
- 1:12:12Speaker 1: And he takes like one step and wide open, and
- 1:12:15Speaker 1: it's so it.
- 1:12:16Speaker 3: Was always so point like point from a timing perspective,
- 1:12:20Speaker 3: like he would lunge and extend with that left hand
- 1:12:24Speaker 3: and then bring his feet through step term bank every time,
- 1:12:28Speaker 3: like without fail, I think he you know, and I'm
- 1:12:30Speaker 3: not even probably exaggerating, he could have done that with
- 1:12:32Speaker 3: his eyes closed. Like the type of the way, Yes,
- 1:12:35Speaker 3: the way he practiced, I have no doubt that if
- 1:12:39Speaker 3: you blindfolded him, he could hit that like seven out
- 1:12:42Speaker 3: of ten times or six out of ten because he
- 1:12:43Speaker 3: just knows the rhythm and feel because he practiced it
- 1:12:46Speaker 3: so so much. And yeah, that I think that's such
- 1:12:50Speaker 3: a great point. There is opportunities to gouge this Texans defense,
- 1:12:54Speaker 3: but in order to do it, you have to stay
- 1:12:57Speaker 3: on schedule. If you play into that game. Yeah, like
- 1:12:59Speaker 3: if you cool it third and eight, you're gonna get
- 1:13:01Speaker 3: out Shire right up over Connor McGovern because they want
- 1:13:05Speaker 3: to make you go five zero and they might blitz,
- 1:13:08Speaker 3: they might not. Shire might drop, He might rush, someone
- 1:13:11Speaker 3: else might drop. Someone else will rush. Jalen Petrie is
- 1:13:13Speaker 3: playing their nickel like technically like three safety looks because
- 1:13:17Speaker 3: he's like there's more of a safety than he is
- 1:13:19Speaker 3: like a true nickel, but he is in then nickel
- 1:13:21Speaker 3: spot will see if Jimmy Ward plays, who gives them
- 1:13:24Speaker 3: a little more coverage diversity. But he got nicked up
- 1:13:26Speaker 3: last Wednesday in practice obviously didn't play versus Jacks. Don't
- 1:13:29Speaker 3: know if he's gonna play this. We gets a growing
- 1:13:31Speaker 3: soft muscle. Injuries are weird, But Petrie is the same way,
- 1:13:35Speaker 3: like he wants to see ball, get ball. He wants
- 1:13:38Speaker 3: to get like the green light. He's like the linebacker
- 1:13:40Speaker 3: from the Replacements with Keanu Reeves, Like he just wants
- 1:13:43Speaker 3: to come forward, like when Gene Hackman tells him, Danny,
- 1:13:45Speaker 3: get me the ball. Like that's what Petrie is like.
- 1:13:47Speaker 3: He blinders are on. He wants to go through someone's
- 1:13:50Speaker 3: face one hundred miles an hour, one hundred percent of
- 1:13:52Speaker 3: the time. But again, that opens you up and leaves
- 1:13:55Speaker 3: your vulnerable. They even had a couple coverage bus in
- 1:13:58Speaker 3: that game where Petree's getting turned around. Guy, they're playing
- 1:14:00Speaker 3: some cover one. They're doing a cover one blitz. Petrie
- 1:14:04Speaker 3: gets confused. They don't pass off properly. I think Christian
- 1:14:07Speaker 3: Kirk is open either way. Lawrence miss throw. It was
- 1:14:10Speaker 3: like one of the early ones where I was like,
- 1:14:12Speaker 3: damn Trevor, like already, Like I.
- 1:14:16Speaker 1: Think about the first game of the season for the
- 1:14:19Speaker 1: Taxans against the Colts and Anthony Richardson throws a seventy
- 1:14:24Speaker 1: yard pass to Alec Pierce, where Pierce is behind them,
- 1:14:28Speaker 1: there are chances to beat this too high defense if
- 1:14:32Speaker 1: you just throw it downfield, you wad it up and
- 1:14:36Speaker 1: you just attack vertically. And I think this team can
- 1:14:39Speaker 1: be beaten if you attack vertically and you attack over
- 1:14:42Speaker 1: the middle of the field. But you have to stay
- 1:14:45Speaker 1: ahead of them in those situations. You can't play into
- 1:14:49Speaker 1: their hand.
- 1:14:49Speaker 3: No, you have to stay on schedule. You have to
- 1:14:51Speaker 3: not let game script dictate to you. And that's such
- 1:14:55Speaker 3: a good point because I think the Bills can attack
- 1:14:58Speaker 3: the middle of the field. And that's tied into another
- 1:15:00Speaker 3: one of my points, like where I think they need
- 1:15:02Speaker 3: to attack this Texans defense and how But that verticality
- 1:15:06Speaker 3: is something that's missing from this offense. It's something that
- 1:15:09Speaker 3: it's part of the reason why I mean, I also
- 1:15:11Speaker 3: like him as a route runner, but it's part of
- 1:15:13Speaker 3: the reason why I was on the exavier Worthy train
- 1:15:16Speaker 3: to Buffalo. Like even if it was just purely like
- 1:15:18Speaker 3: hey man, go be fast and pull coverage, like they
- 1:15:20Speaker 3: need somebody to do that. The only person they have
- 1:15:22Speaker 3: capable of it is MVS. He's kind of not really
- 1:15:25Speaker 3: getting the job done. They don't have a lot of
- 1:15:27Speaker 3: verticality in this offense, so beating them over the top
- 1:15:31Speaker 3: that's gonna be hard, which means you have to work
- 1:15:33Speaker 3: that middle of the fielding in between the numbers. But
- 1:15:36Speaker 3: the Texans also probably know that, so that helps them
- 1:15:38Speaker 3: kind of put a cap on everything and close down
- 1:15:40Speaker 3: you will on you a little bit. Yeah, it's such
- 1:15:42Speaker 3: a Oh, it's so frustrating. I hate things, like talking
- 1:15:46Speaker 3: about things in the offseason. I'm like, this is gonna
- 1:15:48Speaker 3: be a problem, and then it happens. I'm like, well,
- 1:15:50Speaker 3: that's the problem, and people are like, oh, don't yep,
- 1:15:52Speaker 3: there it is, and I'm like my wife's been like, oh,
- 1:15:54Speaker 3: but you were right. I'm like, I don't want to
- 1:15:56Speaker 3: be right. This problem sucks, Like this isn't fun, Like
- 1:15:59Speaker 3: this isn't a good thing.
- 1:16:01Speaker 1: Yeah right, but it's not helping me at the at
- 1:16:04Speaker 1: the end of the day.
- 1:16:05Speaker 3: I don't feel better. Like they can't push the ball downfield,
- 1:16:08Speaker 3: Like there's no the on their downfield game. And we
- 1:16:10Speaker 3: saw it a couple of times against Baltimore. Their downfield
- 1:16:13Speaker 3: game is throw a back shoulder, throw a key on.
- 1:16:17Speaker 3: That's exactly what it is, and hopefully he's you know,
- 1:16:19Speaker 3: it's the old Aaron Rodgers to James Jones and I'm
- 1:16:22Speaker 3: just gonna throw a back shoulder throw and see what happens,
- 1:16:24Speaker 3: and key on one two of them dropped. One of
- 1:16:27Speaker 3: them arguably his best route when he got downfield. But yeah,
- 1:16:30Speaker 3: and then tying into that too, Like that's what Kamari
- 1:16:33Speaker 3: Lassiter wants. He wants you to bang with him. He
- 1:16:36Speaker 3: wants to get physical, like he wants to press sometimes
- 1:16:38Speaker 3: so jams. Sometimes he's just a soft shoe press guy,
- 1:16:41Speaker 3: but he welcomes that physicality. He's fast, he's athletic, he's physical.
- 1:16:45Speaker 3: And granted that's what the Bills wide receivers are, but
- 1:16:46Speaker 3: that's both of you were throwing rock. So I guess,
- 1:16:49Speaker 3: you know, maybe one of the Rocks chip a little bit.
- 1:16:52Speaker 3: You kind of see what happens. But just watching the
- 1:16:55Speaker 3: Ravens game, and I hate to keep coming back to it,
- 1:16:57Speaker 3: but the Ravens game, I think was the first time
- 1:16:59Speaker 3: where we saw athletes on the outside and good coverage
- 1:17:03Speaker 3: guys be able to lock down the Bills in the
- 1:17:06Speaker 3: scheme not being able to overcome it. Jacksonville. I even
- 1:17:09Speaker 3: think if Savage and Tyson Campbell were healthy, I think
- 1:17:16Speaker 3: we see a bit of a different. I'm not saying
- 1:17:17Speaker 3: the Jags all of a sudden win, but I think
- 1:17:19Speaker 3: we see somewhat of a different result, especially with how
- 1:17:21Speaker 3: much man coverage the Jags played in that game. If
- 1:17:23Speaker 3: you get Savage in there and Campbell in there, it
- 1:17:26Speaker 3: changes things a little bit because of the talent level
- 1:17:28Speaker 3: and how it upticks things a bit. The Miami game
- 1:17:31Speaker 3: got out of control and so much of that game
- 1:17:33Speaker 3: was run, but the Bills didn't even have to pass
- 1:17:35Speaker 3: a lot because the game got out of control too,
- 1:17:37Speaker 3: goes out and the game against the Cards, their secondary
- 1:17:40Speaker 3: isn't the strongest aside from Buddha Baker, and they've got
- 1:17:43Speaker 3: gaps in coverage. But the Ravens showed like, hey, we've
- 1:17:47Speaker 3: got good athletes at corner. We've also there who are
- 1:17:49Speaker 3: also good from a technical perspective, from a sound perspective.
- 1:17:54Speaker 3: That kind of can come up the works for you schematically,
- 1:17:57Speaker 3: and then if you get out of your game script
- 1:17:59Speaker 3: and get back into a corner, then it just multiplies
- 1:18:02Speaker 3: and multiplies and snowballs. And against the Texans, like you said,
- 1:18:05Speaker 3: who has that talent who wants to rush the passer
- 1:18:08Speaker 3: and then gets you into these known passing situations and
- 1:18:11Speaker 3: just take your head off if I worry for that,
- 1:18:14Speaker 3: and I think I do. Think my point there ties
- 1:18:17Speaker 3: into your second of okay, cool, you can take advantage
- 1:18:20Speaker 3: of the Texans, but wipe by staying on script. Then
- 1:18:23Speaker 3: you start to go play action. Work in some boots,
- 1:18:25Speaker 3: work in some nakeds. Let's run some split flow, play
- 1:18:29Speaker 3: action and just hit Dalton kincaide on a slide router.
- 1:18:32Speaker 3: Let's actually run some split zone or get back to
- 1:18:34Speaker 3: your you know you're talking about crunch and trap and
- 1:18:36Speaker 3: whamm and all that.
- 1:18:37Speaker 1: Cool.
- 1:18:37Speaker 3: The Bills have a really good gap scheme. It's not
- 1:18:40Speaker 3: necessarily the traditional aspect because they don't like to pull
- 1:18:42Speaker 3: their guards. They'll pull their tackles. They will run dart,
- 1:18:45Speaker 3: they will run tackle long, trappled and where instead of you,
- 1:18:49Speaker 3: instead of trapping the three tech or the one tech,
- 1:18:52Speaker 3: you'll trap that edge and he comes upfield and that'll
- 1:18:55Speaker 3: work because Hunter's coming upfield Anderson's coming upfield. Trap them
- 1:18:59Speaker 3: with one of your tackles. Use that, get those alleys,
- 1:19:01Speaker 3: create those gaps. People move them that way, and then
- 1:19:05Speaker 3: with what they have in the spine, which I'm going
- 1:19:06Speaker 3: to talk about my third point, that's where you got
- 1:19:08Speaker 3: to start to get them like get at them in
- 1:19:10Speaker 3: the run game. Just make them displace themselves and then
- 1:19:14Speaker 3: take advantage of it, either in the past or in
- 1:19:16Speaker 3: the run. Use that strength against them like Baltimore did
- 1:19:19Speaker 3: to you. It's a good strategy in general, but also
- 1:19:22Speaker 3: to help you stay on schedule, which you have to
- 1:19:24Speaker 3: do against this defense.
- 1:19:26Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to stay ahead of schedule, and you
- 1:19:28Speaker 1: have to be able to hit them where it hurts.
- 1:19:31Speaker 1: You got to be able to hit them over the
- 1:19:32Speaker 1: middle of the.
- 1:19:32Speaker 3: Field absolutely and tack them in the spine, which again
- 1:19:36Speaker 3: no spoilers, but kind of a spoiler's tied to my
- 1:19:38Speaker 3: third point a little bit. All right, we've each gone
- 1:19:39Speaker 3: with our first two. We are an hour and eighteen
- 1:19:42Speaker 3: minutes in. I am not shocked or surprised, but you're
- 1:19:44Speaker 3: a gamer. I'm a gamer. Point three for each of us.
- 1:19:48Speaker 3: Of course, you are the guests. You go first for
- 1:19:50Speaker 3: your last point. Here, what do you got for your
- 1:19:52Speaker 3: third piece?
- 1:19:54Speaker 1: My point is defending the run out of Nickel. It
- 1:19:57Speaker 1: is a specific game plan, is how will you defend
- 1:20:01Speaker 1: the run out of Nickel? So the Bills, as you
- 1:20:05Speaker 1: probably all know, love to play out of Nickel. That
- 1:20:08Speaker 1: is their base. They do not want to put all
- 1:20:10Speaker 1: three linebackers on the field. The Ravens saw that, and
- 1:20:14Speaker 1: we're like, okay, sure, so going to Sports Info solutions.
- 1:20:18Speaker 1: When the Bills trotted out five defensive backs against the Ravens,
- 1:20:22Speaker 1: the Ravens ran the ball twenty three times for two
- 1:20:25Speaker 1: hundred and eleven yards and two touchdowns. For those counting
- 1:20:29Speaker 1: at home, that is a nine point two yards per carry.
- 1:20:33Speaker 3: And even in real quick even if somebody wants to say, well, yeah,
- 1:20:36Speaker 3: the Henry run, the Henry one was eighty seven, Even
- 1:20:39Speaker 3: if you take that out, you still got gouged. You
- 1:20:41Speaker 3: still got destrayed up.
- 1:20:42Speaker 1: And even then it is a thirty point four percent
- 1:20:45Speaker 1: first down rate. So even if you weren't giving up
- 1:20:47Speaker 1: the big runs, you were also giving up the first
- 1:20:51Speaker 1: down runs. So they got hit in the face when
- 1:20:56Speaker 1: it comes to I think what this Bills game last
- 1:20:59Speaker 1: week gets the Raven's kind of showed was they haven't
- 1:21:03Speaker 1: been tested by a team like that against that kind
- 1:21:06Speaker 1: of defense. Because nobody was able to punish them with
- 1:21:10Speaker 1: didn't need to run out of nickel. The Ravens were
- 1:21:12Speaker 1: able to punish them. I think the best thing about
- 1:21:14Speaker 1: this game is I don't think the Texans are gonna
- 1:21:18Speaker 1: be able to punish them out of nickel. You can
- 1:21:20Speaker 1: play nickel against the Texans. The Texans cannot run the ball.
- 1:21:25Speaker 1: And I thought the biggest thing that they kind of
- 1:21:27Speaker 1: shifted to from last year to this year was instead
- 1:21:29Speaker 1: of playing I think it's Andrew Beck their full back.
- 1:21:33Speaker 1: Last year, they took him off the field and played
- 1:21:36Speaker 1: Brevin Jordan. They went to a lot more twelve personnel
- 1:21:39Speaker 1: and lined him up as a fullback. But now with
- 1:21:42Speaker 1: Brevin Jordan out, Joe Mixon has been hurt. But even then,
- 1:21:45Speaker 1: like we said at the top of the show, they
- 1:21:47Speaker 1: are dead last in rushing success rate after that Colts bonanza,
- 1:21:52Speaker 1: which I don't know what happened in that game. They
- 1:21:57Speaker 1: cannot run the ball. It is. It is still one
- 1:22:02Speaker 1: of their biggest the biggest things holding them back from
- 1:22:05Speaker 1: being a true death machine as an offense. Now, their
- 1:22:10Speaker 1: early down pass rate has gone up, which is a
- 1:22:14Speaker 1: good thing, so they're not just going run, run, pass,
- 1:22:16Speaker 1: but their run game hasn't gotten better. And I think
- 1:22:20Speaker 1: this point is so critical because it goes back into
- 1:22:23Speaker 1: something that I talked about last week just on the
- 1:22:26Speaker 1: Twitter verse, which is being able to defend the run
- 1:22:29Speaker 1: at a too high and devoting all your resources to
- 1:22:32Speaker 1: defending the run at a too high unlocks everything else
- 1:22:37Speaker 1: for your defense. It's why guys like Kirby smart. Mike
- 1:22:40Speaker 1: McDonald said it last week. If you defend the run
- 1:22:43Speaker 1: at a split safeties, that's a special thing because you
- 1:22:46Speaker 1: can devote more bodies to the past. If you can
- 1:22:49Speaker 1: just defend the run with five or six guys, you
- 1:22:53Speaker 1: can devote more numbers to pass coverage.
- 1:22:55Speaker 3: That's what made Brandon Staley such a revolutionary with the rams,
- 1:22:59Speaker 3: like all the type and now you can string things
- 1:23:01Speaker 3: out and he can get guys from depth. Yeah. All
- 1:23:03Speaker 3: these dudes who can figure out how to fit the
- 1:23:05Speaker 3: run and keep a too high structure their gods.
- 1:23:09Speaker 1: So what the Bills do when they defend the run
- 1:23:12Speaker 1: is they will bump in and out of the box. Yes,
- 1:23:15Speaker 1: so they'll bump Cam Lewis or Taron Johnson into the
- 1:23:18Speaker 1: box with motion and they'll bump the line back around. Well,
- 1:23:22Speaker 1: the Ravens knew that, and even in eleven personnel, they
- 1:23:25Speaker 1: would just bump everybody out. One of the big players
- 1:23:28Speaker 1: with a six yard penn and pull to Derrick Henry.
- 1:23:31Speaker 1: But they were in trips with the wide nubs on
- 1:23:34Speaker 1: the left side of Muba correct. So cam Lewis is
- 1:23:37Speaker 1: out defending the trips because he has to be that
- 1:23:40Speaker 1: apex player. And then they motion Zay Flowers and like
- 1:23:43Speaker 1: a little return motion, Baylen Spector runs out to defend
- 1:23:48Speaker 1: Flowers because he has to maintain four over three. And
- 1:23:51Speaker 1: now you've just won the numbers game and you get
- 1:23:53Speaker 1: big dudes on little dudes. Dereck Henry runs for six yards.
- 1:23:57Speaker 1: The Bills have to retain their eegrity defending the run
- 1:24:01Speaker 1: out of Nickel in order for their defense, not only
- 1:24:04Speaker 1: their defense to work, but in order to win this game.
- 1:24:07Speaker 1: You know, I think the larger way of the Bills
- 1:24:11Speaker 1: defending this run the run game, it comes down to
- 1:24:14Speaker 1: those linebackers having to do so much in terms of
- 1:24:19Speaker 1: the run and pass. And now when you have guys
- 1:24:23Speaker 1: like Dorian Williams in there and Bailey Spector, they're not
- 1:24:27Speaker 1: necessarily the greatest in past defense. But with the Texans
- 1:24:31Speaker 1: being so bad against the run, you don't have to
- 1:24:36Speaker 1: you don't have to worry as much about them being
- 1:24:38Speaker 1: gassed in play action. You know, like you you can
- 1:24:41Speaker 1: be okay, you can kind of slow flow to this.
- 1:24:44Speaker 1: You know, you can kind of make sure you read
- 1:24:47Speaker 1: it out all the way before you get fast flow to.
- 1:24:50Speaker 3: The ball exactly.
- 1:24:51Speaker 1: So if you're able to defend the run out of
- 1:24:54Speaker 1: Nickel against this team, I think about the Ravens game
- 1:24:58Speaker 1: against the Texans in the playoffs. They were able to
- 1:25:00Speaker 1: defend the run with like six people in the box. Yeah,
- 1:25:03Speaker 1: and that's shut down the Texans offense if you're able
- 1:25:07Speaker 1: to do that and kind of force them to live
- 1:25:10Speaker 1: in a CJ. Stroud throws the ball forty times in
- 1:25:13Speaker 1: a game which you're playing with fire because he's a
- 1:25:15Speaker 1: really good quarterback. But if you can continue to flood
- 1:25:19Speaker 1: those intermediate areas, flood those dig routes and those middle hooks,
- 1:25:23Speaker 1: you can make this make life hard on this Texans offense.
- 1:25:28Speaker 3: I like that. I like that a lot. That ties
- 1:25:30Speaker 3: into actually it legitimately ties into my third point a lot.
- 1:25:35Speaker 3: But yeah, that that's so well said. It just the
- 1:25:38Speaker 3: Ravens did. I've been saying this so much now with
- 1:25:42Speaker 3: especially in response like the too high cover structure thing.
- 1:25:44Speaker 3: I think this comes from I want to make sure
- 1:25:47Speaker 3: I give credit. I don't remember which coaching click I
- 1:25:49Speaker 3: think it's from the Rich Rodriguez coaching clinic from when
- 1:25:54Speaker 3: he was at Arizona, where he's talking about like offense,
- 1:25:56Speaker 3: he's talking about run philosophy, but he talks about it
- 1:25:58Speaker 3: running the past, and he talks about how it's just
- 1:26:01Speaker 3: like a slide that's up there, and he talks about
- 1:26:02Speaker 3: football and offensive philosophy. It's based on numbers, angles and space. Well,
- 1:26:07Speaker 3: he says, grass I say space, but the Ravens just
- 1:26:10Speaker 3: won that battle consistently, like numbers, angle space. Even Josh
- 1:26:14Speaker 3: Allen has been winning with numbers this year. You talked
- 1:26:16Speaker 3: about it earlier, like the run plays that had the
- 1:26:18Speaker 3: pass tags on it or the RPO bubbles, however you
- 1:26:21Speaker 3: want to like talk about it, or ever you want
- 1:26:23Speaker 3: to label it. I mean, that's how the Ravens game
- 1:26:25Speaker 3: started out. He hits Kinkaid early on and Shakiro earlier
- 1:26:29Speaker 3: on because he sees like, oh, it's it's three over two. Boom,
- 1:26:31Speaker 3: I'm gonna do boom, I'm gonna do that. He does it.
- 1:26:33Speaker 3: He did to the Jags a million times, like they've
- 1:26:36Speaker 3: got you know, two versus two, but one of the
- 1:26:38Speaker 3: two is Antonio Johnson and he's a little farther back,
- 1:26:41Speaker 3: So let me just spit the ball out real quick,
- 1:26:43Speaker 3: and now we've got space and a good angle. We
- 1:26:45Speaker 3: can get seven yards on first down. So much of
- 1:26:47Speaker 3: the game is just about numbers, angles in space, who
- 1:26:51Speaker 3: can own it and who can maximize it. And the
- 1:26:55Speaker 3: Ravens did a good job just setting themselves up, like
- 1:26:57Speaker 3: especially with the misdirection right, Like you get everybody in
- 1:27:00Speaker 3: this way, and then you get your guys going this way.
- 1:27:03Speaker 3: So when the ball goes that way, all those guys
- 1:27:06Speaker 3: that went the wrong way when they come back, now
- 1:27:08Speaker 3: there's a wall of blockers in front of him because
- 1:27:10Speaker 3: your angles are established, not to mention it. If you
- 1:27:12Speaker 3: have space and numbers, which the Ravens did consistently, that's
- 1:27:15Speaker 3: where you can attack them. And yeah, I think the
- 1:27:18Speaker 3: Bills defense and it's so funny and I don't want
- 1:27:23Speaker 3: to say, like, well sutoge. Still that was my one
- 1:27:25Speaker 3: of my big points last week was the Ravens had
- 1:27:29Speaker 3: the capability to threaten that Bill's Nickel game. I thought
- 1:27:32Speaker 3: you and I talked about it too when we did
- 1:27:35Speaker 3: Bill's Cardinals. The Cardinals in a very similar fashion with
- 1:27:37Speaker 3: their twelve and thirteen personnel. My big question was can
- 1:27:41Speaker 3: you like, can you still live in Nickel? Taron Johnson
- 1:27:45Speaker 3: just how he plays the position. He's like five eleven,
- 1:27:49Speaker 3: one hundred ninety pounds, but he plays like he's six
- 1:27:51Speaker 3: three two forty like he plays like he's Levon Kirkland
- 1:27:54Speaker 3: from the Steelers in the nineties. Like he plays Nickel
- 1:27:57Speaker 3: that way. He allows you to stay in nick go
- 1:28:00Speaker 3: a bit more because they'll take on pulling guards. He'll
- 1:28:02Speaker 3: fit up tight ends or bigger bodied, wide receivers. When
- 1:28:05Speaker 3: you lose that, you're impacted. And cam Lewis, we saw
- 1:28:09Speaker 3: him like give up chunks against the Cardinals. He course
- 1:28:12Speaker 3: corrected a bit in the second half, but they were
- 1:28:14Speaker 3: pinning him, pulling him and the Bills edges to death
- 1:28:18Speaker 3: and getting out in front. And then we saw a
- 1:28:20Speaker 3: similar action here with the Ravens. I think you know
- 1:28:23Speaker 3: you mentioned it earlier in the ties to this point too.
- 1:28:25Speaker 3: I do think the no, not everybody is going to
- 1:28:28Speaker 3: have the Ravens personnel in order to do this, But
- 1:28:31Speaker 3: I do think the blueprint for right now until the
- 1:28:34Speaker 3: Bills get healthy at that spot is bro We got
- 1:28:37Speaker 3: to figure out a way to get them into base.
- 1:28:41Speaker 3: Because even though cam Lewis is a backup. You're already
- 1:28:44Speaker 3: playing with two backup linebackers, So if you have to
- 1:28:46Speaker 3: bring in another linebacker, that means that's the fifth dude
- 1:28:49Speaker 3: on the depth chart. I'd rather have the fifth linebacker
- 1:28:51Speaker 3: on the depth chart than the backup Nickel, who was
- 1:28:53Speaker 3: actually like plays decent at times. And if you and
- 1:28:56Speaker 3: again no disrespect to Nicholas Morrow, but the Bills are
- 1:29:00Speaker 3: just in hell and they're not built to play that way.
- 1:29:02Speaker 3: And then you think about it too, from just from
- 1:29:04Speaker 3: a practice perspective, right the Bills are practicing in Nickel,
- 1:29:07Speaker 3: the Bills are in practice in base How many first
- 1:29:10Speaker 3: team reps is Nicholas Morro getting in the week, how
- 1:29:12Speaker 3: many how much of the game plan is he involved in?
- 1:29:15Speaker 3: Because they're preparing to go, They're doing that from a
- 1:29:17Speaker 3: reactionary standpoint, not from a point of strength, because they
- 1:29:20Speaker 3: want a dictator. This is what they think the matchup is.
- 1:29:22Speaker 3: It's them going, oh crap, all right, Cam, you're out,
- 1:29:26Speaker 3: Nick going there, let's see what we can do. I
- 1:29:28Speaker 3: really do think the way to stress the Bills right
- 1:29:31Speaker 3: now until they get healthy at that spot is to
- 1:29:33Speaker 3: put them in a bind and make them figure out
- 1:29:35Speaker 3: if they have to go three linebackers or not. What
- 1:29:38Speaker 3: I would like them to do is in the meantime,
- 1:29:42Speaker 3: provided Taylor rap is healthy, I would like Cold Bishop
- 1:29:45Speaker 3: to be the nickel because I think Cole Bishop is
- 1:29:48Speaker 3: best suited in and around the box as this apex,
- 1:29:51Speaker 3: big nickel, third safety, monster man type of dude with
- 1:29:54Speaker 3: how he can play. That's a conversation potentially for another time. Yeah,
- 1:29:58Speaker 3: I just think that's so important and it ties into
- 1:30:02Speaker 3: one of my points. So the Texans, as of yesterday
- 1:30:05Speaker 3: Persumer Sports had the second highest twelve personnel usage rate.
- 1:30:10Speaker 3: Ravens are first, Texans are second, Cardinals or third. Ravens
- 1:30:14Speaker 3: and Texans obviously both had successful offensive weeks against the
- 1:30:17Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills. But like you talked about one, they're not
- 1:30:20Speaker 3: good running the ball in general. But they're not the
- 1:30:22Speaker 3: The Texans aren't the most deadly out of twelve personnel.
- 1:30:25Speaker 3: They're fourteenth in EPA per pass and they're twentieth in
- 1:30:28Speaker 3: EPA per rush, so not great. So to your point,
- 1:30:31Speaker 3: like that twelve personnel grouping, I don't care who it is,
- 1:30:34Speaker 3: even if it wasn't if if Jordan was healthy and
- 1:30:36Speaker 3: playing like that combination of Schultz and Stover. I think
- 1:30:40Speaker 3: Stover probably has the blocking advantage on cam Lewis. I'm
- 1:30:42Speaker 3: not scared of Dalton Schultz if I'm cam Lewis, Like,
- 1:30:44Speaker 3: you can get through Dalton Schultz's chefs, like, no disrespect him.
- 1:30:47Speaker 3: He tries. He's he's very similar to kind of Dalton
- 1:30:50Speaker 3: Kincaid and that he will give you effort as a blocker.
- 1:30:54Speaker 3: He's not running away, he's not soft. He's just a
- 1:30:58Speaker 3: very skilled pass catching tight end more so than he
- 1:31:00Speaker 3: is a blocker. But because of how much they run
- 1:31:02Speaker 3: twelve and they don't want to tip anything, they'll have
- 1:31:05Speaker 3: Schultz being the guy who's coming across split flow as
- 1:31:08Speaker 3: that sniffer and split zone or they're running and again
- 1:31:12Speaker 3: bless their heart for wanting to do it, they're running
- 1:31:15Speaker 3: like where it looks like they're sending Schultz on that
- 1:31:19Speaker 3: jet motion and then he puts his foot in the
- 1:31:20Speaker 3: ground and he's actually coming back and they're running a
- 1:31:22Speaker 3: little gh counter and he's running like he's there, like
- 1:31:26Speaker 3: he's trying to kick somebody out or lead somebody through,
- 1:31:28Speaker 3: and that's just not his game. You can take advantage
- 1:31:32Speaker 3: of them, I think in that area, but it's tied
- 1:31:36Speaker 3: to that run game, which is my bigger point, and
- 1:31:40Speaker 3: I'll let you elaborate a little bit more. Just guy,
- 1:31:41Speaker 3: feel like I've spoken for so long, the last little
- 1:31:43Speaker 3: bit it ties into my point of who can run
- 1:31:46Speaker 3: the football better on either side of the ball, because
- 1:31:49Speaker 3: if you let either of these offenses be two dimensional,
- 1:31:52Speaker 3: I think you're dead in the water. Like we've talked
- 1:31:54Speaker 3: about what it means for the Texans, We've talked about
- 1:31:56Speaker 3: what it means for the Bills schematically, the Texans, I
- 1:32:00Speaker 3: think it's more just like, bro, if they can run,
- 1:32:02Speaker 3: your second level has to honor it. You're exposed in
- 1:32:04Speaker 3: the middle of the field against Nico with everything that
- 1:32:06Speaker 3: they want to do. The Bills, the run game sets
- 1:32:08Speaker 3: the table because of what it means schematically and how
- 1:32:10Speaker 3: it opens up everything else. How they get guys open,
- 1:32:13Speaker 3: how they motion, how they shift, how good they are
- 1:32:16Speaker 3: with play action. I mean, just going into this past week,
- 1:32:19Speaker 3: they were almost averaging a full point of epa per
- 1:32:22Speaker 3: pass attempt on play action. Like that's unfriggin' real. But
- 1:32:27Speaker 3: I do think whoever controls the ground game, or whoever
- 1:32:30Speaker 3: can run the football better offensively, is that team that
- 1:32:34Speaker 3: finds the most success in this game.
- 1:32:36Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, I think the thing that stands out the most,
- 1:32:40Speaker 1: especially for the Texans and the Bills defense, is defending
- 1:32:44Speaker 1: the run out of eleven because yes, well the Ravens
- 1:32:48Speaker 1: were able to get at the a part of where
- 1:32:51Speaker 1: the Ravens were able to run the ball. They're able
- 1:32:52Speaker 1: to run, bove every personnel, But where they were able
- 1:32:54Speaker 1: to really hurt the Bills was in eleven, where you
- 1:32:58Speaker 1: just motion Can out of the box, or you motion
- 1:33:01Speaker 1: Baile Inspector out of the box, and you're just playing
- 1:33:04Speaker 1: the numbers game.
- 1:33:05Speaker 3: Yep, numbers and numbers angles in space.
- 1:33:07Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, numbers angles in space. And from there you
- 1:33:10Speaker 1: can help out an offensive line in a run game
- 1:33:13Speaker 1: that really hasn't done very well. Yeah, and you can
- 1:33:16Speaker 1: kind of just give them the easy numbers. I think you,
- 1:33:20Speaker 1: Rob Richard, Mark Helfrich I'll never forget. I'm nice. At
- 1:33:24Speaker 1: like fifteen years old, I'm watching an Organ game and
- 1:33:27Speaker 1: they talk about like how Mark Helfridg's offense. They talked,
- 1:33:30Speaker 1: he talked to the commentary is like, yeah, it's simple.
- 1:33:32Speaker 1: If there are six or less people in the box,
- 1:33:34Speaker 1: we run it. If there's six, if there's six or more,
- 1:33:37Speaker 1: we throw it like it's football simple, that's all. That's all.
- 1:33:41Speaker 3: Rich Rodriguez, this thing is. He's like if his whole
- 1:33:44Speaker 3: thing is based off of like a traditional like if
- 1:33:45Speaker 3: you're going two by two gun, He's like, that means
- 1:33:47Speaker 3: you got five offensive linemen. You know. If they got
- 1:33:50Speaker 3: five in the box, you run it. If they got
- 1:33:51Speaker 3: six in the box, you can go read option. He
- 1:33:54Speaker 3: was like, if they're on the outside with two over two,
- 1:33:56Speaker 3: you can have numbers, maybe get to the edge. If
- 1:33:58Speaker 3: it's if it's one guy out there because they got
- 1:34:00Speaker 3: another dude in the box, throw it outside. It's purely
- 1:34:02Speaker 3: just like it's always like the baseball adage like hit
- 1:34:06Speaker 3: it where they ain't, and that's what it is for
- 1:34:08Speaker 3: football a lot of time, just go where they ain't.
- 1:34:10Speaker 3: If you have numbers in the box, throw it outside.
- 1:34:13Speaker 3: If you have the numbers advantage in the box, run
- 1:34:15Speaker 3: the football. And it's just that's why you see so
- 1:34:17Speaker 3: much and I feel like people know this but maybe not.
- 1:34:19Speaker 3: That's why you see so many alerts and checks and
- 1:34:21Speaker 3: cans because a quarterback will get to the line and
- 1:34:24Speaker 3: be like, oh, I've got two dudes attached to the line,
- 1:34:27Speaker 3: so I've got seven bodies here and they've only got
- 1:34:29Speaker 3: six or seven in the box. Oh that's a hat
- 1:34:30Speaker 3: on a hat, all right, we're checking to the run.
- 1:34:32Speaker 3: And yeah, it just kind of makes the world go around. Sorry,
- 1:34:34Speaker 3: I get really excited with.
- 1:34:35Speaker 1: Some You're good. I love it, I love it. I
- 1:34:39Speaker 1: The thing that stands out the most with the Texans,
- 1:34:41Speaker 1: like I said, in their inability to run the ball
- 1:34:43Speaker 1: is just they can't really move people.
- 1:34:45Speaker 3: No, there's no displacement.
- 1:34:47Speaker 1: They can't move people. No. And when you can't move
- 1:34:50Speaker 1: people in that zone running scheme, you're kind of dead
- 1:34:54Speaker 1: in the water. Because if nobody's getting displacement and you
- 1:34:57Speaker 1: can create, you knock this team back, you can reset
- 1:34:59Speaker 1: the a scrimmage. So where I think the Bills have
- 1:35:02Speaker 1: to be able to win. If they're going to defend
- 1:35:04Speaker 1: the run out of Nickel like they want to, they're
- 1:35:07Speaker 1: gonna have to get a better game up front. And
- 1:35:09Speaker 1: I think it starts up front. And I kind of
- 1:35:12Speaker 1: think that the Ravens schematically and personnel wise, are a
- 1:35:17Speaker 1: little bit of a bad matchup for this versu because again,
- 1:35:22Speaker 1: the Ravens have a three hundred pounds full back and
- 1:35:24Speaker 1: a three hundred and eighty pound right guard. The Bills
- 1:35:29Speaker 1: defense is a little small right now, like, and Oliver
- 1:35:32Speaker 1: is fantastic. He's also two hundred and ninety pounds. Like
- 1:35:35Speaker 1: it again, big guy, little guy.
- 1:35:38Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know what was hurting them in that
- 1:35:40Speaker 3: game too real quick, like the because of all the
- 1:35:42Speaker 3: motion and misdirection, it was holding the defenders at the
- 1:35:48Speaker 3: second level or was moving them out, like even if
- 1:35:50Speaker 3: they were just looking over here and then going forward,
- 1:35:52Speaker 3: but a lot of times they were moving with it.
- 1:35:54Speaker 3: So those double teams that were happening at the first
- 1:35:57Speaker 3: level were sustained because there was no trigger from the
- 1:36:00Speaker 3: second level to pull off one of those blockers. So
- 1:36:03Speaker 3: you've got just double teams on Ed Oliver and Daikwon
- 1:36:06Speaker 3: Jones happening NonStop. Because there's the linemen are just like, well,
- 1:36:11Speaker 3: I'm supposed to get that guy, but he's all the
- 1:36:14Speaker 3: way out over there, So I'm just gonna stay on
- 1:36:15Speaker 3: this double team, I guess, and drive at Oliver five
- 1:36:18Speaker 3: yards downfield like it. Just again, like you said, like
- 1:36:21Speaker 3: they are the perfect I had this makes it. I
- 1:36:24Speaker 3: had so many people coming at me on Twitter because
- 1:36:27Speaker 3: I was like, oh, the Ravens are a bad matchup.
- 1:36:28Speaker 3: They're kind of a foil for the Bills, and how
- 1:36:30Speaker 3: many people came in and were like, they're one and two.
- 1:36:32Speaker 3: They lost to the Raiders. They suck. It's a week
- 1:36:35Speaker 3: to week league and a matchup league. The Ravens are
- 1:36:38Speaker 3: very much the way they're built and constructed, even when
- 1:36:40Speaker 3: the Bills are healthy, they are a very good foil
- 1:36:42Speaker 3: for this Bills team. Sorry, continue exactly.
- 1:36:45Speaker 1: I think the Ravens are such a good foil for
- 1:36:47Speaker 1: this team and they can kind of give the Bills
- 1:36:49Speaker 1: lessons for as they continue to move on. Just like
- 1:36:52Speaker 1: we talked about for the Cardinals game is because of
- 1:36:55Speaker 1: how they want to play in confined spaces with bigger
- 1:36:59Speaker 1: personnel and big your bodies on the field. The Texans,
- 1:37:02Speaker 1: like we said, they play the second highest rate of
- 1:37:04Speaker 1: twelve personnel in the league. They want to do this.
- 1:37:07Speaker 1: They're just not good at it.
- 1:37:09Speaker 3: They just can't.
- 1:37:10Speaker 1: They keep hitting their head against this wall. It's like
- 1:37:13Speaker 1: wildly coyote, like always stepping on the rake. He's always
- 1:37:16Speaker 1: falling off the cliff. And the Texans want to be
- 1:37:20Speaker 1: this so in order to learn from your mistakes from
- 1:37:24Speaker 1: the first time you played against a team that tried
- 1:37:26Speaker 1: to beat your head in like the Ravens in twelve personnel.
- 1:37:29Speaker 1: How will you learn from that? How will you defend
- 1:37:32Speaker 1: that motion? Now, the Texans are i think seventeenth in
- 1:37:36Speaker 1: motion rate so far per ESPN South Walder. It's not
- 1:37:39Speaker 1: a big number. But again, Bobby Slowick, Shanahan Tree, they
- 1:37:43Speaker 1: will motion the hell out of you if they figure
- 1:37:47Speaker 1: out that you kind of bump in and out of motion.
- 1:37:49Speaker 1: So I'm curious to see how they use motion. I'm
- 1:37:52Speaker 1: curious to see how the Bills defend motion and how
- 1:37:55Speaker 1: they kind of Again, it's all about insulating the weakest
- 1:37:59Speaker 1: points of the defense. Bill Belichick said it best. The
- 1:38:03Speaker 1: defense is as good as your weakest members. And the
- 1:38:07Speaker 1: Bill's weakest members right now are that second level are
- 1:38:10Speaker 1: the linebackers who just haven't played a lot. So how
- 1:38:14Speaker 1: are you going to insulate them against a team that
- 1:38:17Speaker 1: covets the middle of the field so much and uses
- 1:38:20Speaker 1: a lot of motion, and uses a lot of inbreakers
- 1:38:23Speaker 1: and digs. How will you protect those guys against the
- 1:38:26Speaker 1: team that wants to hammer you right exactly where they are?
- 1:38:30Speaker 3: Yeah, very well said Yeah, it's just you know what,
- 1:38:33Speaker 3: I think both teams can be got in the spine,
- 1:38:38Speaker 3: like defensively like I feel like the Texas. We talked
- 1:38:40Speaker 3: about it, Anderson and Hunter and Stingley even last or
- 1:38:44Speaker 3: to a degree, like I feel like they're good on
- 1:38:46Speaker 3: the periphery. I think the Bills are in a similar spot.
- 1:38:48Speaker 3: Rousseau Epanessa is playing well, even though maybe the stature
- 1:38:51Speaker 3: of production don't show it. And then you've got Douglas
- 1:38:53Speaker 3: and you've got Benford. Like, you're good on the periphery,
- 1:38:56Speaker 3: but there's questions at the defensive tackle spot at the
- 1:39:00Speaker 3: second level. And then for the Bills, their safeties questions
- 1:39:03Speaker 3: with some athleticism and some pieces, and I think the
- 1:39:06Speaker 3: run game is so important for both sides. Starting with
- 1:39:09Speaker 3: the Texans. We talked about how good their pass rush
- 1:39:11Speaker 3: is and how fierce Anderson and Hunter are, but they
- 1:39:14Speaker 3: have the sixth highest EPA per rush allowed. They have
- 1:39:18Speaker 3: the fifth highest yards after contact per attempt allowed at
- 1:39:22Speaker 3: three point five to two, their middle of the road
- 1:39:24Speaker 3: and stuff percentage at seventeenth in the league. The Bills
- 1:39:29Speaker 3: need to make the Texans defensive line play the run.
- 1:39:31Speaker 3: I'm busting out all the proverbials here. Make the Texans
- 1:39:34Speaker 3: d line play the run on the way to the
- 1:39:36Speaker 3: pass with play action, make them earn the right to
- 1:39:39Speaker 3: rush the passer by stopping and fitting the run, and
- 1:39:42Speaker 3: then mitigate that pass rush by staying on the known
- 1:39:44Speaker 3: passing situations like we talked about. I think the Bills
- 1:39:46Speaker 3: need to do what they didn't get to do against
- 1:39:50Speaker 3: Baltimore because of the game script, condensed formations or reduce
- 1:39:54Speaker 3: formational with in general and or with play action. Attack
- 1:39:57Speaker 3: the middle of the field. You need to attack Henry
- 1:40:00Speaker 3: Toto and his he's outshy year if Eric Murray is
- 1:40:03Speaker 3: playing because Jimmy Ward is out cool. There you go
- 1:40:06Speaker 3: get at the spine of this defense. They are not
- 1:40:08Speaker 3: as strong on the interior defensive line or in the
- 1:40:11Speaker 3: second level at the linebacker spots as they are on
- 1:40:13Speaker 3: the outside at the edges or at their corner spots.
- 1:40:15Speaker 3: The strength the Texans strength defensively is on the periphery end.
- 1:40:20Speaker 3: You know, I mentioned like they can be had in
- 1:40:22Speaker 3: the in their spine, on the ground and in the air.
- 1:40:24Speaker 3: I think it's a big Dalton Kincaid game. I also
- 1:40:26Speaker 3: think potentially a big James Cook game as a pass
- 1:40:29Speaker 3: catcher and receiver working underneath, getting some of those mismatches
- 1:40:32Speaker 3: that Joe Brady's very good at creating. And then on
- 1:40:34Speaker 3: the other side of the ball. You alluded to it already.
- 1:40:36Speaker 3: It's funny kind of where I figured we would align
- 1:40:39Speaker 3: on several of these pieces and points. Texans offense Shanahan system,
- 1:40:43Speaker 3: heavier personnel, condensed formations, play action, motion, marry the run
- 1:40:46Speaker 3: in the past, layered passing concepts, high lows, boots, rollouts,
- 1:40:51Speaker 3: deep and intermediate crossers and overs and digs. Texans have
- 1:40:55Speaker 3: a good motion rate that yeah, they think they're close
- 1:40:57Speaker 3: to the top ten in motion rate. They're successful with
- 1:40:59Speaker 3: play action piece thing and nothing too dramatic from a
- 1:41:02Speaker 3: stats perspective to pull because they haven't clicked yet. And
- 1:41:06Speaker 3: kind of similar to how the Bears game skews things
- 1:41:09Speaker 3: positively potentially for the Texans, the Texans offense is heavily
- 1:41:12Speaker 3: skewed by just getting rocked by Minnesota and putting into
- 1:41:15Speaker 3: hell that week. But yeah, like we talked about, overall,
- 1:41:19Speaker 3: they haven't ran the ball great even it's crazy that
- 1:41:22Speaker 3: their EPA per attempt is so bad considering how well
- 1:41:26Speaker 3: they ran the ball against the Colts, Like that game
- 1:41:28Speaker 3: should have been good enough, like it wasn't to this degree.
- 1:41:31Speaker 3: But like when Miami ran all over Denver last year,
- 1:41:35Speaker 3: like that game was good enough to make them towards
- 1:41:38Speaker 3: like the top of the league for the entirety of
- 1:41:39Speaker 3: the year, regardless of what would happened. I thought that
- 1:41:41Speaker 3: Texans' performance against Indy to open the season would mean
- 1:41:45Speaker 3: they'd be top ten at the very least until like
- 1:41:47Speaker 3: Week six or seven. The fact that they're this low
- 1:41:49Speaker 3: and it plummeted, granted Mixon's been hurt and Tunsall was
- 1:41:52Speaker 3: hurt this past week, tells you something about how poor
- 1:41:55Speaker 3: that run game is. They couldn't get it together last year.
- 1:41:57Speaker 3: Granted they had a bunch of injuries on the offensive line,
- 1:41:59Speaker 3: but the thought was this year, they're healthy, they know
- 1:42:02Speaker 3: how important the run game is, they'll get it going.
- 1:42:05Speaker 3: They have not. You cannot let the Texans offense get
- 1:42:09Speaker 3: any semblance of a run game going because it provides
- 1:42:12Speaker 3: easy buttons for the Texans offense, and like we talked about,
- 1:42:16Speaker 3: opens up that play action aspect. It just puts you
- 1:42:19Speaker 3: in hell. But again also like so, like I mentioned,
- 1:42:22Speaker 3: the Texans have the on their defensive side, sixth highest
- 1:42:26Speaker 3: EPA per rush allowed. The Bills defensively have the third
- 1:42:31Speaker 3: highest EPA per rush allowed right now, at this very moment,
- 1:42:35Speaker 3: And if you let this Texans run game get going,
- 1:42:38Speaker 3: it's a problem. But also within that, they're not a
- 1:42:41Speaker 3: very good running game a run team, like we talked about,
- 1:42:44Speaker 3: So if you let this Texans offense get going, it
- 1:42:47Speaker 3: also speaks to just where you are as a run defense.
- 1:42:53Speaker 3: Also for those who are wondering, JP's going to grab
- 1:42:56Speaker 3: his computer charters, So no worries. So I'm gonna keep
- 1:42:58Speaker 3: talking to the people, and I know JP can hear me. You.
- 1:43:02Speaker 3: If you let the Texans run this ball, One, it
- 1:43:05Speaker 3: just makes things easier for the Texans offense, but two,
- 1:43:07Speaker 3: it also starts to potentially sow some cracks in the
- 1:43:09Speaker 3: armor a little bit if you are the Bills run defense.
- 1:43:12Speaker 3: Because the Texans can't run the ball. The Bills run
- 1:43:16Speaker 3: defense has the third highest EPA per rush allowed, So
- 1:43:18Speaker 3: it's kind of like the immovable object versus the unstoppable
- 1:43:21Speaker 3: force type of deal. And like I've said for weeks,
- 1:43:25Speaker 3: the spot to attack this Bill's defense is at the
- 1:43:26Speaker 3: second level and in their spine, Dory Williams is still
- 1:43:29Speaker 3: getting lost in coverage. Bale Inspector's played admirably, but also
- 1:43:33Speaker 3: can be exploited. Same thing for Cam Lewis. The backup
- 1:43:36Speaker 3: defensive tackles for the Bills in that rotation have largely
- 1:43:39Speaker 3: been me and kind of lacking impact. Austin Johnson has
- 1:43:42Speaker 3: been better than Dwayne Carter, but Austin Johnson picked up
- 1:43:45Speaker 3: an injury. We don't know if he's playing this week.
- 1:43:48Speaker 3: And then the safeties, for as responsible and his assignment
- 1:43:51Speaker 3: sound as they are, lack athleticism. Again, We'll see what
- 1:43:54Speaker 3: happens if it's Rap and Bishop, if Rap isn't able
- 1:43:57Speaker 3: to go to or if it's Rap in Hamlin. If
- 1:43:59Speaker 3: Rap is good to go, it'll be Bishop and ham
- 1:44:01Speaker 3: and we'll see how that kind of plays out. I
- 1:44:03Speaker 3: just really think the run game sets the table so
- 1:44:06Speaker 3: much for both offenses because if you let that run
- 1:44:09Speaker 3: game get going, it opens up so much for them.
- 1:44:12Speaker 3: But then, especially with the Bills run deversus the Texans
- 1:44:15Speaker 3: rush offense, like something's gotta give. The Bills run defense
- 1:44:19Speaker 3: has not been good against teams. And I want to
- 1:44:21Speaker 3: say this because I can. I know somebody's gonna be like, yeah,
- 1:44:24Speaker 3: but their numbers were good against Jacksonville and Miami. Those
- 1:44:27Speaker 3: game scripts forced Miami and Jacksonville out of the run
- 1:44:31Speaker 3: game and just changed it completely. When there were games
- 1:44:34Speaker 3: where teams where it was close or teams that could
- 1:44:37Speaker 3: run the ball were able to run it because a script.
- 1:44:39Speaker 3: It was Arizona and it was Baltimore, and both those
- 1:44:42Speaker 3: teams gouged and gashed the Bills run defense. I do
- 1:44:45Speaker 3: think the Bills run defense is a potential pain point
- 1:44:49Speaker 3: right now, but the Texans run game is also a
- 1:44:51Speaker 3: pain point for them. So one of those, like, both
- 1:44:54Speaker 3: of those aren't gonna suck exactly one of them is
- 1:44:57Speaker 3: going to outperform the other. And which one is it.
- 1:45:00Speaker 1: One of the things that you said that really stood
- 1:45:02Speaker 1: out to me was trying to take away this Texans
- 1:45:06Speaker 1: run game, and it really feels a lot like a
- 1:45:09Speaker 1: Shanahan offense. Shanahan offenses are so good when they're on
- 1:45:15Speaker 1: schedule and when they're on time. When they are when
- 1:45:20Speaker 1: they are working in concert as a unit, they are
- 1:45:23Speaker 1: a machine. If you allow them to hit those inbreakers
- 1:45:27Speaker 1: off of play action, those strike those drift throws where
- 1:45:31Speaker 1: the quarterback fakes it on play action and it takes
- 1:45:34Speaker 1: like two steps and throws an inbreaker. That's Shanahan offense
- 1:45:37Speaker 1: in a nutshell. But what you have to do is
- 1:45:40Speaker 1: get the train off the track a little bit. You
- 1:45:43Speaker 1: have to disrupt the timing. If you can knock them
- 1:45:46Speaker 1: off for a two yard loss in the run game,
- 1:45:49Speaker 1: if you can force Stroud to hold the ball. That
- 1:45:52Speaker 1: is something that I think the Vikings did such a
- 1:45:56Speaker 1: good job of against Stroud and the Texans in the
- 1:45:59Speaker 1: passing game is they forced him to hold the ball
- 1:46:02Speaker 1: a long time. You know, I think against thee against
- 1:46:06Speaker 1: the Vikings, c J. Stroud held onto the ball for
- 1:46:08Speaker 1: I believe. I believe he held onto the ball and
- 1:46:11Speaker 1: scrambled more than he has in his entire career. So
- 1:46:15Speaker 1: it's those types of moments, those types of plays where
- 1:46:21Speaker 1: you have to get them off of schedule. You have
- 1:46:24Speaker 1: to get them out of sync, because if this offense
- 1:46:28Speaker 1: is gonna play on time, if you're gonna give them
- 1:46:31Speaker 1: every single chance to hit hit every note in this
- 1:46:35Speaker 1: offense like a they're like a band. If you let
- 1:46:39Speaker 1: them hit every note on every single song, they are
- 1:46:42Speaker 1: going to blow you away. But you just got to
- 1:46:46Speaker 1: throw them off a little bit. Somebody's gotta be a
- 1:46:48Speaker 1: little flat. Normally for the Texans, it's been the run game.
- 1:46:52Speaker 1: If you can throw them off just a little bit,
- 1:46:55Speaker 1: you know, you can just make them hold onto the
- 1:46:57Speaker 1: ball a little bit longer, then yeah, you can beat
- 1:47:00Speaker 1: this team. And I think how the Bills will do
- 1:47:04Speaker 1: it with a second level that's still going through injury
- 1:47:07Speaker 1: and still hasn't been consistent, is going to basically win
- 1:47:12Speaker 1: them this game, win or lose them this game.
- 1:47:13Speaker 3: On defense, I love that, and I really do think
- 1:47:16Speaker 3: with the Bills run de versus the Texans run offense,
- 1:47:20Speaker 3: what I think will happen. And this is what's really
- 1:47:22Speaker 3: happened when the Bills have been good against the run
- 1:47:25Speaker 3: in Sean mcdermot's ten year because they get gashed, and
- 1:47:27Speaker 3: they get gouged, but they usually have a good stuff
- 1:47:31Speaker 3: percentage or a good like negative play rate. So they'll
- 1:47:34Speaker 3: get gouged for six yards on a run and then
- 1:47:36Speaker 3: seven yards on a run, and then they'll knock you
- 1:47:39Speaker 3: back for like a negative two or a negative three,
- 1:47:41Speaker 3: and now you're second and twelve. Now you're second and thirteen,
- 1:47:43Speaker 3: and you play into their hand and then they get
- 1:47:45Speaker 3: you off the field. That's what I expect to see
- 1:47:47Speaker 3: in this game. It's just a matter of how much
- 1:47:50Speaker 3: give and taken there are the Bills able to keep
- 1:47:52Speaker 3: the Texans in you know, second and twelve or second
- 1:47:55Speaker 3: and thirteen, or you know taking a second and four
- 1:47:58Speaker 3: and turning it into third and six or third and seven.
- 1:48:02Speaker 3: How much can they do that versus the Texans consistently
- 1:48:05Speaker 3: being able to churn out like five to seven, five
- 1:48:07Speaker 3: to eight yards. And that's just how the Bills have
- 1:48:10Speaker 3: been like even with what happened against Baltimore. That's who
- 1:48:14Speaker 3: the Bills are. Defensively, they are in a one gap,
- 1:48:17Speaker 3: a four down, usually in even front four down, even
- 1:48:20Speaker 3: front one gap, penetrating, get up field, get off, get
- 1:48:24Speaker 3: out of your stance at the defensive line level, and
- 1:48:27Speaker 3: then second level read and react, trigger process, fast flow,
- 1:48:32Speaker 3: which is why we've seen the Shanahan Tree guys like
- 1:48:34Speaker 3: McDaniel with Miami at times. Lafleur did it with Green
- 1:48:38Speaker 3: Bay a couple of years ago. Even the other Lafleur
- 1:48:41Speaker 3: did it when he was the Jets OC for that
- 1:48:44Speaker 3: little bit, just little simple things like jet motion, and
- 1:48:47Speaker 3: like you talked about, it's littered on the tape. Everybody
- 1:48:49Speaker 3: bumps over, and guys bump over. Now, Taron Johnson's in
- 1:48:52Speaker 3: the box, and then you run counter or you pull
- 1:48:55Speaker 3: guys to that Taron Johnson side, and now you don't
- 1:48:57Speaker 3: have the numbers or you necessarily don't have the size
- 1:48:59Speaker 3: of the physicality to match it those numbers, and what
- 1:49:01Speaker 3: do you do. Teams are able to do that. The
- 1:49:04Speaker 3: Bills aren't changing that blueprint. That's who they been. That's
- 1:49:08Speaker 3: why it comes down to, Okay, can you win up front?
- 1:49:13Speaker 3: Can you win those one on one battles. That's where
- 1:49:16Speaker 3: so much of the play comes from, and that's where
- 1:49:18Speaker 3: so much of the too high, you know fit, the
- 1:49:21Speaker 3: run from too high comes from. If you've got dudes
- 1:49:23Speaker 3: that can win up front, it changes the math, it
- 1:49:26Speaker 3: changes the number. It doesn't matter. Okay, cool, we have
- 1:49:28Speaker 3: six in the box and they've got six blocking damn.
- 1:49:31Speaker 3: That means they have one more gap than we can
- 1:49:33Speaker 3: account for. It doesn't matter. So and so can beat
- 1:49:35Speaker 3: his dude and get in the backfield, or so and
- 1:49:37Speaker 3: so is gonna shoot gum up the works and then
- 1:49:39Speaker 3: we'll we'll rally and tackle and swarm from there. If
- 1:49:41Speaker 3: you've got guys that can change the number or the
- 1:49:44Speaker 3: system or scheme that can change it, usually the Bills
- 1:49:47Speaker 3: have just been sound enough to make it happen. But Yeah,
- 1:49:50Speaker 3: that Baltimore game, I think kind of put put them
- 1:49:53Speaker 3: on notice and watch a little bit for how to
- 1:49:54Speaker 3: attack them. And I think teams are gonna try and
- 1:49:56Speaker 3: replicate this as much as they can, even teams that
- 1:49:58Speaker 3: maybe aren't good twelve or twenty one or twenty two
- 1:50:02Speaker 3: or thirteen. I expect to see teams trying that more
- 1:50:05Speaker 3: against the Bills, like they're gonna trot out their second
- 1:50:07Speaker 3: or third tight end, or if they if they've got
- 1:50:09Speaker 3: a fullback that they work in every now and again,
- 1:50:11Speaker 3: or maybe he's a special team or maybe they've got
- 1:50:14Speaker 3: fifteen plays in there in this game or ten plays
- 1:50:16Speaker 3: in there in this game because they think, you know what,
- 1:50:18Speaker 3: we can attack the Bills in nickel, or we want
- 1:50:22Speaker 3: them to put a third linebacker on the field, and
- 1:50:24Speaker 3: if they do, we're gonna check to a pass and
- 1:50:26Speaker 3: we're gonna package plays together and we'll just have the
- 1:50:28Speaker 3: QB calling at the line. I really do think teams
- 1:50:31Speaker 3: are gonna replicate that, and that's why I think this
- 1:50:33Speaker 3: Texans game, this Texas game has so many storylines and
- 1:50:35Speaker 3: fun pieces, but I really do think that one aspect
- 1:50:38Speaker 3: is so fun because both of these teams have sucked
- 1:50:41Speaker 3: in these areas, and I'm like, which is gonna who's
- 1:50:44Speaker 3: gonna suck less? Who can fix things a little bit?
- 1:50:47Speaker 3: And then how does that tie in to the grander scheme,
- 1:50:50Speaker 3: the grander picture on that side of the ball, But
- 1:50:52Speaker 3: then how it changes the script on the other side
- 1:50:55Speaker 3: as well. Man, It's just this game is just full
- 1:50:58Speaker 3: of really fun matchup pieces and then individual standout players,
- 1:51:01Speaker 3: especially on the textan side, like headlined by Nico Collins.
- 1:51:04Speaker 3: Of course, I just want to say that one more
- 1:51:05Speaker 3: time because I love Nico and I don't think he
- 1:51:07Speaker 3: gets enough love.
- 1:51:08Speaker 1: And some of the ways you can defend the run
- 1:51:11Speaker 1: out of those two high shells I think Buffalo can
- 1:51:14Speaker 1: really start to get into and use a little more.
- 1:51:16Speaker 1: Is just stealing gaps, using slants and done, which they don't.
- 1:51:20Speaker 3: Do a ton. When they do, it works, but they're
- 1:51:23Speaker 3: not a big.
- 1:51:25Speaker 1: One that you are going. But again, with all the
- 1:51:29Speaker 1: motion bumping guys in and out, when you are straight
- 1:51:32Speaker 1: up in that gap, you lose that. You lose that
- 1:51:36Speaker 1: integrity and you're asking your safety to come off the
- 1:51:39Speaker 1: roof and make that play, which is fine, and when
- 1:51:41Speaker 1: you have guys like Micah Hyde Jordan Poyer, but going
- 1:51:45Speaker 1: through turnover rightful turnover, as the Bills have with bringing
- 1:51:49Speaker 1: in younger players, bringing more inexperienced players, you're gonna get
- 1:51:53Speaker 1: you're gonna mess up a lot more n you're gonna
- 1:51:56Speaker 1: run into those situations. So in order to ease that
- 1:51:59Speaker 1: a little bit, just start stealing gaps, using slants, use
- 1:52:03Speaker 1: twists and stunts and force them to adjust on the fly.
- 1:52:08Speaker 1: Think about Ed Oliver, it's great at shooting gaps. Have
- 1:52:11Speaker 1: him shoot laterally, you know, have him across somebody's face.
- 1:52:16Speaker 1: You think about Dwayne Carter. What he did at Duke
- 1:52:19Speaker 1: was shooting across gaps, moving across the face. And now
- 1:52:25Speaker 1: you're able to steal those gaps and kind of take
- 1:52:28Speaker 1: back some of the weak points in this defense and
- 1:52:32Speaker 1: just continue to shift everybody over. So like if you
- 1:52:35Speaker 1: slant everybody to away from the three tech so the
- 1:52:40Speaker 1: three techs slants over, the one tech slants over, and
- 1:52:43Speaker 1: now you just bring a guy off the edge and
- 1:52:46Speaker 1: now you can get in some more simulated pressures that way.
- 1:52:49Speaker 1: So I want to see the Bills kind of lean
- 1:52:51Speaker 1: into that a little more, especially if they're going to
- 1:52:54Speaker 1: continue to defend the run out of Nickel, because it
- 1:52:57Speaker 1: just protects your little guys. I hate to keep calling
- 1:53:00Speaker 1: them little guys, so they aren't little. But in the
- 1:53:03Speaker 1: scheme of like, yeah, the offense, like in the NFL,
- 1:53:07Speaker 1: Cam Lewis is not a big dude, so you want
- 1:53:10Speaker 1: to protect him and not force him to continue to
- 1:53:14Speaker 1: have to hit two hundred and seventy pounds tight ends
- 1:53:17Speaker 1: or there was a play where I think Ronnie Stanley
- 1:53:20Speaker 1: ends a blockingham Lewis and I'm like, this is not
- 1:53:23Speaker 1: fun for anybody involved. So you want to keep him
- 1:53:28Speaker 1: out of those situations. Just have steel gaps, you know,
- 1:53:32Speaker 1: win those back using stunts, and now you can kind
- 1:53:36Speaker 1: of play the game like how offenses are playing games
- 1:53:39Speaker 1: with your own defense.
- 1:53:40Speaker 3: And that's been something that they've used at times, but
- 1:53:43Speaker 3: like not enough. And I like that a lot because
- 1:53:45Speaker 3: it's it's something I do believe in, like I think,
- 1:53:47Speaker 3: and and again, right, there will be times where you're
- 1:53:50Speaker 3: gonna you're gonna call a run stunt at the wrong
- 1:53:53Speaker 3: moment based on the wrong run and you're gonna be
- 1:53:56Speaker 3: left super vulnerable and wide open. But more often than not,
- 1:53:59Speaker 3: it can just create havoc. And we saw even I
- 1:54:01Speaker 3: mean again, I know it's preseason the Bears did that
- 1:54:04Speaker 3: for all Bills fans. That's what the Bears did to
- 1:54:05Speaker 3: the Bills in the opening preseason game. They were just
- 1:54:08Speaker 3: running run stunts and run blitzes and slants left and right.
- 1:54:11Speaker 3: And it wasn't just pure numbers. It was you know,
- 1:54:14Speaker 3: so and so is in the left a gap. Oh
- 1:54:16Speaker 3: now he's in the right a gap. Uh oh, Like
- 1:54:18Speaker 3: that changed what we're doing. It just in guys are
- 1:54:20Speaker 3: zones step in. But they got to stop because someone's
- 1:54:22Speaker 3: crossing face and then it's coming up the worst, it's
- 1:54:24Speaker 3: changing the ready. They have to do something other than
- 1:54:28Speaker 3: just because again, right now, I don't think they have
- 1:54:31Speaker 3: the horses to just play the structure that everybody knows
- 1:54:35Speaker 3: is coming like it's not hey cool, everybody that's lined
- 1:54:38Speaker 3: up in the gap that they're in. That's the gap
- 1:54:40Speaker 3: they're going to account for. Like, I don't think they
- 1:54:42Speaker 3: have the horses right now to execute that. And because
- 1:54:44Speaker 3: even when the even within that, when they're healthy, Bernard
- 1:54:48Speaker 3: is gonna shoot, Milano's gonna shoot, Teran's gonna shoot. They'll
- 1:54:51Speaker 3: play above the scheme and structure a little bit. But
- 1:54:54Speaker 3: like you said, you don't have that at the second level.
- 1:54:55Speaker 3: Right now, And I don't think you necessarily have the
- 1:54:57Speaker 3: depth and rotation on the interior to maintained that level
- 1:55:00Speaker 3: of punishment over and over again. So I do really
- 1:55:03Speaker 3: like that, especially with it still functions into you know,
- 1:55:07Speaker 3: the upfield and aggressive nature instead of just you know,
- 1:55:10Speaker 3: if you're lined up in the sea, instead of going
- 1:55:11Speaker 3: through the sea, you know, jump inside of the beat
- 1:55:14Speaker 3: and switch a little bit. And it's funny they would
- 1:55:15Speaker 3: they'll do that for like quarterback read stuff like they'll
- 1:55:18Speaker 3: do scrape exchanges and gap exchanges and stuff in which
- 1:55:21Speaker 3: I'm always like, why don't you do that more for
- 1:55:23Speaker 3: regular Like it works on.
- 1:55:25Speaker 1: The quarterback, it might work on the running back too.
- 1:55:28Speaker 3: Because you get gouged. And again, if fits kind of
- 1:55:31Speaker 3: your moo. I think a lot of it has always
- 1:55:33Speaker 3: been like if it's not broke, don't fix it, and
- 1:55:36Speaker 3: they're good at keeping the status quo and if it's like,
- 1:55:38Speaker 3: all right, cool, we don't need to we don't need
- 1:55:40Speaker 3: to add too much on. Let's just keep dancing with
- 1:55:43Speaker 3: the girl that brought us and we're gonna keep doing it.
- 1:55:45Speaker 3: But yeah, last week that girl embarrassed you on the
- 1:55:48Speaker 3: dance floor and she left you and it was sad
- 1:55:50Speaker 3: and terrible, and you were by yourself dancing to mister
- 1:55:53Speaker 3: Bright's side, but you weren't dancing. You were in the
- 1:55:54Speaker 3: corner trying to get some punch. It's a sad time.
- 1:55:57Speaker 3: Anything else on, We've gone for almost two hours. It's
- 1:56:01Speaker 3: past eleven o'clock here on the East Coast. I am
- 1:56:03Speaker 3: not surprised anything else on this matchup. Anything you got
- 1:56:08Speaker 3: that you know that's in the holster that you want
- 1:56:09Speaker 3: to fire real quick before we start to say goodbye.
- 1:56:13Speaker 1: The last thing I again will point out is this
- 1:56:15Speaker 1: Texans offensive line is heavily penalized. Yes, they will, they
- 1:56:20Speaker 1: will put themselves behind the eight ball. Sometimes they will
- 1:56:23Speaker 1: make those mistakes and you have to punish them for
- 1:56:26Speaker 1: those mistakes. Minnesota was so good at punishing Houston for
- 1:56:31Speaker 1: their mistakes up front. They weren't able to convert on
- 1:56:34Speaker 1: those illegal procedure or legal formation. Are those false start drives.
- 1:56:39Speaker 1: You have to be able to force them behind the
- 1:56:41Speaker 1: eight ball. If they're going to do it to themselves,
- 1:56:43Speaker 1: take advantage of it.
- 1:56:45Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of let them beat themselves a little bit
- 1:56:47Speaker 3: and maybe you know, yeah, if you if you're having
- 1:56:49Speaker 3: some issues beating them, let them beat themselves kind of
- 1:56:51Speaker 3: just go go from there. I like that. Yeah, that
- 1:56:54Speaker 3: that was one of my biggest takeaways from the Minnesota game.
- 1:56:56Speaker 3: They just pre snap penalties post that penalties over I
- 1:57:00Speaker 3: even think too. I'm pretty positive when I was looking
- 1:57:03Speaker 3: up some stuff on tunsl for this, I think Laramie
- 1:57:06Speaker 3: Tunsel like had six penalties called on him, just him
- 1:57:08Speaker 3: alone in the game against Minnesota, Like, and he's one
- 1:57:11Speaker 3: of the best dudes in the league. Like, when you're
- 1:57:13Speaker 3: all pro left tackle is getting flagged six times, Like
- 1:57:16Speaker 3: something's going on there, Like, you guys gotta get get
- 1:57:19Speaker 3: your shi t together there a little bit. Yeah, I'm
- 1:57:22Speaker 3: really excited for this one. I was really pumped to
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- 1:59:12Speaker 3: One of the best, mister JP Acosta. We went late.
- 1:59:16Speaker 3: We kept him laked again. Not surprised. He's always down
- 1:59:19Speaker 3: for it too. I talked him, He's like, oh, I'm
- 1:59:20Speaker 3: good to go for however long you're going, and I'm like, okay, cool.
- 1:59:24Speaker 3: Wonderful of this comment from Thomas said, what do you
- 1:59:26Speaker 3: think about von Miller? I think the suspension is unfortunate
- 1:59:32Speaker 3: just because it hurts the bills. But I honestly, if
- 1:59:36Speaker 3: I was surprised he didn't get suspended sooner. It's all
- 1:59:42Speaker 3: muddy and wonky with what you see go down with
- 1:59:45Speaker 3: NFL players, and you know, people get charged, people get charged,
- 1:59:49Speaker 3: and then the charges are dropped. Sometimes people are going
- 1:59:51Speaker 3: to court or turning themselves in and then nothing comes
- 1:59:55Speaker 3: of it. I think it's all muddy in terms of
- 1:59:59Speaker 3: how the action punishment gets handed down from the NFL,
- 2:00:02Speaker 3: in terms of timelines and how they decide who to
- 2:00:05Speaker 3: punish and when to punish. And I don't want to
- 2:00:08Speaker 3: get like too much into it, but I heard the
- 2:00:11Speaker 3: police call when this thing happened, and it did not
- 2:00:14Speaker 3: sound good. And I don't know what actually happened, but
- 2:00:18Speaker 3: it didn't sound good. And if it in actuality played
- 2:00:22Speaker 3: out kind of like how it sounded, the dude probably
- 2:00:25Speaker 3: should have gotten suspended. I don't know the ins and
- 2:00:27Speaker 3: outs of it in particular, and I know people are
- 2:00:29Speaker 3: up in arms because you know, Rashid Rice still hasn't
- 2:00:32Speaker 3: gotten suspended, and Tyreek Hill, you know, not gets to
- 2:00:36Speaker 3: do their thing. And oh even RJ said in the comments,
- 2:00:38Speaker 3: now my thing is that now they best suspend Rice
- 2:00:40Speaker 3: as well. I also think you got to look at
- 2:00:42Speaker 3: it from a timeline perspective, right, Like, if I know
- 2:00:45Speaker 3: Rice's thing seems very cut and dry. Maybe it's not.
- 2:00:48Speaker 3: If we're sitting here next season and he still hasn't
- 2:00:51Speaker 3: gotten anything, I think it's fair to kind of, you know,
- 2:00:54Speaker 3: cry wolf at that point. But Vonn's thing took a
- 2:00:57Speaker 3: while for obviously for it to matriculate. I think Rice's
- 2:01:01Speaker 3: will as well. Even I think a lot of the
- 2:01:03Speaker 3: analysis when the Rashid Rice thing happened was that we
- 2:01:06Speaker 3: probably wouldn't see a decision come this season. It would
- 2:01:09Speaker 3: probably happen for twenty twenty five before it would happen
- 2:01:12Speaker 3: for twenty twenty four. So it takes them a while
- 2:01:16Speaker 3: to iron these things out. And again a lot of
- 2:01:18Speaker 3: it depends on what happens with the actual legal system
- 2:01:20Speaker 3: aside from the NFL, Like do the charges stick, our
- 2:01:23Speaker 3: charges dropped? Where is everything kind of coming from? I
- 2:01:28Speaker 3: don't know with it. And then kind of to Ryan's point, yeah,
- 2:01:31Speaker 3: everything is like muddy, like certain things don't matter as
- 2:01:34Speaker 3: much as others in terms of what they want to penalize,
- 2:01:36Speaker 3: who they want to penalize, how much I think their
- 2:01:40Speaker 3: punishment system is flawed. This has nothing to do with
- 2:01:42Speaker 3: von Miller. I think the punishment system is flawed, and
- 2:01:46Speaker 3: just I don't know. Certain guys are out doing domestic
- 2:01:49Speaker 3: abuse stuff, but then they're allowed to get back into
- 2:01:51Speaker 3: the league, And I think it's a larger kind of
- 2:01:53Speaker 3: political landscape conversation when it comes to the league. It's
- 2:01:56Speaker 3: unfortunate for the Bills because Vonn was playing good. He
- 2:01:58Speaker 3: looked back into form. But if it went down the
- 2:02:02Speaker 3: way it seemed to have gone down, or I think
- 2:02:04Speaker 3: it went down even though the charges were dropped. I
- 2:02:07Speaker 3: think this bench is kind of valid and worth it.
- 2:02:10Speaker 3: I think a lot of these guys kind of get
- 2:02:12Speaker 3: are allowed to live above the law a little too much,
- 2:02:15Speaker 3: and it's you know, but again, you got to keep
- 2:02:18Speaker 3: it fair and balanced across everything and every one. Sometimes
- 2:02:22Speaker 3: it takes a little too long. We'll see what happens
- 2:02:24Speaker 3: with Rice and so on and so forth. But yeah,
- 2:02:26Speaker 3: I think it's a it's a muddy situation, and I
- 2:02:29Speaker 3: guess I understand why it's muddy, but it feels like
- 2:02:31Speaker 3: certain things would be pretty cut and dry with who
- 2:02:33Speaker 3: you penalize and who you punish and how and why.
- 2:02:35Speaker 3: But I do understand the feet dragging and how complicated
- 2:02:39Speaker 3: it all is making decision because it's not easy. I
- 2:02:41Speaker 3: guess one way or the other. But it's unfortunate for
- 2:02:45Speaker 3: the bills, but it's even more unfortunate for you know,
- 2:02:51Speaker 3: Vond's partner if that stuff actually went down again, I
- 2:02:54Speaker 3: don't know. I wasn't there obviously, so I don't want
- 2:02:58Speaker 3: to comment too much. But yeah, it is what it is.
- 2:03:00Speaker 3: I think everything is. Everything operates on its own timeline,
- 2:03:03Speaker 3: and you can't apply the same level to everything, whether
- 2:03:05Speaker 3: it's or she, Rice or whoever whenever. But fair question,
- 2:03:10Speaker 3: Ryan saying, let's go Jravon Solomon. Yeah, Javon Solomon. It's
- 2:03:13Speaker 3: next man up. We'll see if he can have some
- 2:03:14Speaker 3: kind of impact. We'll see if Smoot plays a little
- 2:03:17Speaker 3: better kind of see what happens a little bit. Are
- 2:03:21Speaker 3: just saying, I think Vaughan should be suspended if any
- 2:03:23Speaker 3: little bit of what happened is true. But Rice put
- 2:03:25Speaker 3: a three year old in the hospital and has zero
- 2:03:27Speaker 3: remorse about it.
- 2:03:28Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't.
- 2:03:29Speaker 3: I didn't dive into it too much when happened. I
- 2:03:31Speaker 3: know it was just a hit and run. I didn't
- 2:03:34Speaker 3: know about the three year old piece. Yeah, it's I
- 2:03:36Speaker 3: don't know. Because then I also and again I don't
- 2:03:38Speaker 3: want to speak too much because I don't dive into
- 2:03:40Speaker 3: these too much. But like I don't know, certain car
- 2:03:43Speaker 3: accident situations previously have led to kind of immediate suspensions
- 2:03:46Speaker 3: for guys. It's all muddy, and again I think a
- 2:03:49Speaker 3: lot of it is politic driven, but also the legal
- 2:03:52Speaker 3: process and how it plays out. So it's all muddy,
- 2:03:54Speaker 3: and it's unfortunate. It's annoying. It's annoying that it has
- 2:03:56Speaker 3: to be another layer on top of a larger conversation.
- 2:03:59Speaker 3: But state of the world. I guess things happen to
- 2:04:04Speaker 3: powerful people and parts of powerful organizations, and it's rarely
- 2:04:08Speaker 3: cut and dry, even when it seems like it should
- 2:04:10Speaker 3: be cut and dry, which is kind of unfortunate. I
- 2:04:12Speaker 3: appreciate you Thomas, and thanks for being here, and thank
- 2:04:14Speaker 3: you for the question. I appreciate that. I like where
- 2:04:16Speaker 3: John said is that who says trade for Max Crosby.
- 2:04:18Speaker 3: I would take Max Crosby and a heartbeat. R J
- 2:04:21Speaker 3: says with Rashid Rice, it was him racing with a
- 2:04:23Speaker 3: hit and run, leaving the scene and multiple families were hospitalized.
- 2:04:26Speaker 3: It's crazy what was reported. I also also maybe have
- 2:04:29Speaker 3: incorrect I also heard with Rashi Rice it was like
- 2:04:33Speaker 3: there was camera footage or like traffic cam footage. I
- 2:04:36Speaker 3: think I remember reading that when it happened, so maybe
- 2:04:40Speaker 3: it is kind of cut and dry. I don't know. Yeah,
- 2:04:44Speaker 3: we kind of we'll see. I like it. I'm choosing
- 2:04:47Speaker 3: to believe that these typos from Ryan are on purpose,
- 2:04:51Speaker 3: saying in said I let's go Javon Solomon saying let's
- 2:04:53Speaker 3: go Vivon Solomon and then say in Vivon. I like that.
- 2:04:55Speaker 3: How you respelled it. I like that. I hope that.
- 2:04:57Speaker 3: I hope those typeos were on purpose. That would bright
- 2:05:00Speaker 3: in my day. Yeah, but we'll kind of see what
- 2:05:02Speaker 3: happens with vond and going forward. And yeah, I don't know, man,
- 2:05:06Speaker 3: I I'll Ryan just said he can't spell. Well, pretend
- 2:05:08Speaker 3: it was on purpose because it was really funny. So
- 2:05:10Speaker 3: I'm gonna choose to pretend it was on purpose. I
- 2:05:12Speaker 3: like that. John Robert saying what do you think of
- 2:05:15Speaker 3: the Bill's news signing Zion? I don't even know how
- 2:05:18Speaker 3: to pronounced the last name. I haven't watched film on
- 2:05:19Speaker 3: him yet, I haven't looked into him yet. I had
- 2:05:21Speaker 3: a crazy busy day today and yesterday. I got through
- 2:05:27Speaker 3: the Bills film late last night and even got through
- 2:05:30Speaker 3: a little more today. Then I was scrambling to get
- 2:05:32Speaker 3: through the Texans film against Jacksonville to prep for today,
- 2:05:37Speaker 3: So I have not watched the film of Zion. I
- 2:05:40Speaker 3: will dive into it whenever I can. I know he's
- 2:05:41Speaker 3: got some preseason tape out there, I'm assuming, so I'll
- 2:05:44Speaker 3: dive into it when I can. But I just have
- 2:05:47Speaker 3: not have not gotten into it at this point, but
- 2:05:50Speaker 3: I'm interested, and I guess it kind of makes sense.
- 2:05:51Speaker 3: I don't know if it was a move in response
- 2:05:53Speaker 3: to Vaughn you know them kind of that's a preemptive thing,
- 2:05:56Speaker 3: or if it's related to Austin Johnson who left I
- 2:06:00Speaker 3: don't remember what quarter against Baltimore, but didn't really see
- 2:06:03Speaker 3: snaps in the second half at all, So something pretty
- 2:06:06Speaker 3: emptied there is kind of happened, which means someone could
- 2:06:08Speaker 3: potentially be called up for this game. And if it's somebody,
- 2:06:10Speaker 3: I hope it's ilion Ku because I like him and
- 2:06:13Speaker 3: I think he will help against the run. That's a
- 2:06:14Speaker 3: little fun fact ted bit dark horse. So if Eleanku
- 2:06:17Speaker 3: kind of balls out this week or plays really well,
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- 2:06:20Speaker 3: ooh and called it. I'm just kidding. You don't have
- 2:06:22Speaker 3: to do that, but if you want to go ahead, yeah,
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- 2:08:27Speaker 3: Thomas saying, how about Davante Adams. You think the Bills
- 2:08:29Speaker 3: could afford him? See he wants to trade. I did
- 2:08:32Speaker 3: see that it would depend on how much the Raiders
- 2:08:35Speaker 3: are willing to eat from his base salary. I honestly
- 2:08:37Speaker 3: didn't even look. I know he's got a crazy cap
- 2:08:40Speaker 3: hit and a base salary this year, and the Bills
- 2:08:42Speaker 3: have very little teeny tiny space in any way, shape
- 2:08:45Speaker 3: or form, so I don't know how possible it would be.
- 2:08:50Speaker 3: I didn't even really look into the math of it
- 2:08:51Speaker 3: because I don't really think it's too possible, but I
- 2:08:54Speaker 3: guess it is. I also wonder too if after kind
- 2:08:56Speaker 3: of jettison jettisoning Stefan digs out. I don't know if
- 2:09:00Speaker 3: Adams is in that same category, but how the Bills
- 2:09:02Speaker 3: might potentially view him with him kind of wanting out
- 2:09:05Speaker 3: of Vegas. We'll kind of see. I still think DeVante
- 2:09:09Speaker 3: Adams is one of the best five wide receivers in
- 2:09:11Speaker 3: the NFL. He has the best release package still in
- 2:09:13Speaker 3: the NFL. He's one of the best route runners. I
- 2:09:15Speaker 3: think he's just been slept on a little bit the
- 2:09:17Speaker 3: past couple of years because the Raiders have not been
- 2:09:20Speaker 3: great and he hasn't had great quarterback play. But he's
- 2:09:22Speaker 3: still every bit of a very good, top tier wide receiver.
- 2:09:26Speaker 3: I would take him in a heartbeat. I just don't
- 2:09:28Speaker 3: think the Bills can realistically afford him. But I didn't
- 2:09:29Speaker 3: dive into the math too much, just especially to how
- 2:09:31Speaker 3: my day has gone and what I think the math
- 2:09:33Speaker 3: already kind of said are showed. But yeah, kind of
- 2:09:36Speaker 3: see what happens a little bit. I'm gonna throw out
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