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Blake Lively’s Grooming, Mel Robbins' Let Me Controversy with Brandy and Julie · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: Heather Macdonald.
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  Speaker 2: Has got the Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 1: When you're on the road, when you're on the go,
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  Speaker 1: Juicy Scoop is the show to know.
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  Speaker 2: She talks Hollywood tales, her real-life Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Segment, serial data, and serial sisters. You'll be addicted and
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  Speaker 1: addicted fast to the number one tabloid real-life podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Listen in, listen up.
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  Speaker 4: Woof, woof.
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  Speaker 1: Hannah McDonald. Juicy Scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 1: I have your favorite girls in the world. Stars of
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  Speaker 1: the hit, critically acclaimed podcast, Dumb Gay Podcast. Yes. Brandi Howard,
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  Speaker 1: Julie Goldman, wearing beautiful shades of khaki green. Welcome back
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  Speaker 1: to Juicy Scoop. We are getting ready for a fun weekend. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: My God, that's around the corner.
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  Speaker 3: I've been trying on all my, like, pastels.
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  Speaker 5: See?
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  Speaker 1: Like what to wear in the desert.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
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  Speaker 1: Because we are doing Agua Caliente, stand-up, live Juicy Scoop.
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  Speaker 1: We just went through the topics, and guess what? We're
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  Speaker 1: saving some for the live show. Sorry. Sorry, people. Too
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  Speaker 1: juicy for the regular show. And it's Agua Caliente, and
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  Speaker 1: I think it's sold out, but just go check because
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  Speaker 1: they saved some tickets and then released some tickets, but
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  Speaker 1: it's basically whatever. We are going to have fun, and...
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  Speaker 1: I'm putting together different thoughts of outfits, too, and it
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  Speaker 1: will be Palm Springs, bright and sunny, colorful, fun. Well,
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  Speaker 1: how about you, Julie? So am I. I am, too.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I've never worn anything but black doing stand-up,
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  Speaker 4: but you know what?
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  Speaker 3: We usually like to have you stand out, you know?
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  Speaker 1: But maybe, Julie, you could just do a pop of something. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I do have a linen pink dress.
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  Speaker 2: I do.
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  Speaker 1: Or maybe something like that.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe I'll do my Palm Springs gentleman's attire. Like a
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  Speaker 4: button down, like something such as.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't want to take away.
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  Speaker 6: We have never been to Aqua Caliente. Are we about
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  Speaker 6: to like do some like penny slots after?
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be, we're going to do a whole
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  Speaker 1: fun thing. A whole fun thing. Cause this is Palm Springs.
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  Speaker 1: And what if you went with like a white Leisure suit,
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  Speaker 1: like 16 candles. Wait, was it not 16 candles? Pretty
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  Speaker 1: in pink. James Spader. I wish I had that. I
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  Speaker 1: was always obsessed that he was like 16 and dressed
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  Speaker 1: like Miami Vice. Well, yeah. Wearing a full suit. Like
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  Speaker 1: a loose. It was a loose suit. That's what rich
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  Speaker 1: kids did in the 80s is they dressed like full-blown
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  Speaker 1: adult men at school. You know what? If I had
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  Speaker 1: a double-breasted white suit, I would wear it. I just
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  Speaker 1: don't have it. No, you don't. But I wish I did.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 1: I have white pants, though. Well, I found so many
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  Speaker 1: things because I moved to a new house and I
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  Speaker 1: got to organize my closet and you guys came over
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  Speaker 1: and you contributed to my closet. Oh, yeah, baby. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: those look good. They look good. My first and only
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  Speaker 1: pair of Gucci tennis shoes, which are so cute and
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  Speaker 1: so comfortable.
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  Speaker 6: It was a little awkward giving you your housewarming in
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  Speaker 6: front of Peter. And it was just shoes for you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: And then Julie handed Peter a case of water. And
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  Speaker 6: we said congratulations on your new home, Peter.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because when they were coming, I was like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: people are like, can I bring anything? I'm like, actually,
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  Speaker 1: we are completely out of water. We've been moving for
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  Speaker 1: two days. I'm ugly. There's crap everywhere. And I said
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  Speaker 1: on my Patreon, I go, I just am not an organizer.
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  Speaker 1: And I know there's people that just. live for it
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  Speaker 1: luckily I had a friend help me come and do
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  Speaker 1: the closet but I was like I wish I could
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  Speaker 1: have a shot like an ozempic shot but for instead
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  Speaker 1: of curbing your appetite it like motivated you to like
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  Speaker 1: organize or whatever and people wrote me they're like Heather
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  Speaker 1: that's Adderall so I was like oh okay well that
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  Speaker 1: I've never taken I don't think I want to start
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  Speaker 1: it right well we can get that for you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah we can easily I mean I have.
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  Speaker 4: I mean yeah I think you have it in the
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  Speaker 4: purse but I do I do have a prescription That's
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  Speaker 4: for ADD.
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  Speaker 1: But, you know, I mean, it can help you. It can.
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  Speaker 1: It can help.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You will get laser focused. Well, it's going to be
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  Speaker 1: a process, but I'm glad you guys could come over
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  Speaker 1: and see my new digs. Beautiful. Absolutely gorgeous.
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  Speaker 6: Between the house in the desert and the new house
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  Speaker 6: here in L.A., I don't know that we can remain
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  Speaker 6: friends much longer.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't get weird. I mean— I hope it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: get weird because I want you to still be my friend.
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  Speaker 3: The luxury was remarkable.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: And then we went around the neighborhood. We went into
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  Speaker 6: some open houses.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yes. We're going to try to get you in there, too.
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  Speaker 1: We're all going to manifest. We took the paperwork. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: that's my favorite. Like, now, how much are you asking
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  Speaker 1: for this? And we just went into it. We just
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  Speaker 1: leaned in. You just go and you're like, oh, if
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  Speaker 1: only it had one more bath bath.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just like, you know what?
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  Speaker 1: I'm done. This two-car garage. What about our golf cart?
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  Speaker 1: It's selling us. Is there more space?
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  Speaker 3: The garage just wasn't there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it just wasn't there. So we really had to
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  Speaker 1: keep looking. Well, it was all good, all fun. And
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  Speaker 1: we're here to get.
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  Speaker 3: Are you going to.
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  Speaker 6: Be wearing more of your shit now that the closet
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  Speaker 6: is the size of basically my single family home that
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  Speaker 6: I currently live in.
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  Speaker 1: I am really going to try to not buy stuff
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  Speaker 1: for a while. I also used to have a thing
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  Speaker 1: where I would get rid of dresses that I'd worn
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  Speaker 1: on like in a photo or whatever in carpet. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, no, now I think it's a flex to
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  Speaker 1: rewear things.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And if it fits, I'm going to rewear it. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to really try like to not buy clothes. stuff,
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  Speaker 1: but that probably won't last because, but I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: try to really hold back because I really have everything.
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  Speaker 1: I have jeans that fit. I have plenty of shoes.
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  Speaker 1: I have plenty of black t-shirts. Like I, come on, Heather,
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  Speaker 1: get your fucking shit together.
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  Speaker 3: Well, now that you'll see it.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Now I can see it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you guys, I got sent this so many times.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. Juicy scoopers. Marlon Wayne says they plan to
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  Speaker 1: make white chicks too. I have been talking about this
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  Speaker 1: for a while. I have such great ideas of what
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  Speaker 1: the two FBI agents, who's Sean and Marlon, should do
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  Speaker 1: to infiltrate a white woman's world of 2025, what the
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  Speaker 1: crime could be, what the jokes could be. None of
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  Speaker 1: them have ever come on Juicy Scoop or answered my
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  Speaker 1: pleas for the last 10 years. So now I am
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  Speaker 1: putting it out there to the people. I just wrote
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  Speaker 1: Kenan again today.
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  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: Who is the director of it and producer of it saying,
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  Speaker 1: is this is true. I would like to be somehow
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  Speaker 1: contributing consulting. Just let me just come and give you
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  Speaker 1: my ideas. I don't, Like, yes, would I like to
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  Speaker 1: have another part as the sales girl or someone else?
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  Speaker 1: I would love it that the sales girl is still
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  Speaker 1: working there. Right. Maybe, because that was my part, maybe
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  Speaker 1: she got married to someone rich in the Hamptons. He went,
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  Speaker 1: he's in prison for a Ponzi scheme and she's back
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  Speaker 1: working at the store. I can think of everything.
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  Speaker 3: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: I can think of everything. I can think of where
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  Speaker 1: the other girls are. I can think of the crimes.
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  Speaker 1: I can think of how to put it in pop culture.
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  Speaker 1: I can come up with everything. Please, please. I want
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  Speaker 1: to work on this movie and hang out with you guys.
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  Speaker 1: Get to work, Juicy Scoopers. Send the clip to them.
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  Speaker 1: Demand it. Demand it.
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  Speaker 6: You're the only person who's been talking about white chicks
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  Speaker 6: in the last decade. That's the only reason this is happening.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. I've been putting it out there and putting
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  Speaker 1: it out there that I have the ideas and everything
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  Speaker 1: of how funny this could be. I think... Five years
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  Speaker 1: ago when people would ask me, I think they and
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  Speaker 1: myself felt it's too volatile of a time with, you know,
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  Speaker 1: transgender and Americans that are, you know, transitioning and all
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  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. All of it. But now I
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  Speaker 1: feel like, no, people are going to go get why
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  Speaker 1: it was funny. That it was making fun of the
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  Speaker 1: things that white women do. And we have never had
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  Speaker 1: a problem with it. And therefore, that is what the
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  Speaker 1: joke is about. It's about white women and the stuff
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  Speaker 1: that we do and find important. And we love being
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  Speaker 1: made fun of. Come on. Love it.
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  Speaker 6: Now, didn't you say that the reason they had done
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  Speaker 6: it was because of the makeup?
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  Speaker 1: I think that was a big part of it. I
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  Speaker 1: just remember they were saying, like, literally they were getting
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  Speaker 1: two hours of sleep because they would have to, like,
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  Speaker 1: finish at, like, 1 a.m. And then their call time
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  Speaker 1: was 3.30. And they'd just be like, because the makeup.
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  Speaker 2: And all that.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't—I'm thinking there's hopefully some easier way to
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  Speaker 1: do some of those things.
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  Speaker 6: Well, Marlon Wayans— Didn't I like love this movie that
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  Speaker 6: he recently did where he plays like a million characters?
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  Speaker 1: Love.
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  Speaker 3: I tweeted him and.
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  Speaker 6: He retweeted it like I thought it was so funny.
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  Speaker 3: And he wears a ton of makeup in that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's probably. I mean, I have literally
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  Speaker 1: seen like TikTok people put on like a weird mask and.
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  Speaker 1: And it like, and they're walking around and it looks
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  Speaker 1: like a real person. Like, I think that if they can,
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  Speaker 1: I think that's why they, I think they have found
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  Speaker 1: out a way or figured out that part of it.
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  Speaker 1: And that is why they're agreeing to even consider it again.
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  Speaker 1: And so that's my guess. But like I said, I
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  Speaker 1: still have the same phone number. you guys rick alvarez
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  Speaker 1: also producer i have the same phone number you can
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  Speaker 1: call me get the original band together you need to
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  Speaker 1: be part of it yeah and dm this bitch you
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  Speaker 1: know she's on there yeah i know i just want
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  Speaker 1: to go i just want to go over to keenan's
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  Speaker 1: house do it have him you know keen i want
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  Speaker 1: to take two things about keenan that are very juicy
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  Speaker 1: one when i worked on his late night talk show
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  Speaker 1: he was the first person i saw That took his
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  Speaker 1: salad lunch, put the dressing in, put the lid on
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  Speaker 1: and shook it. It wasn't the Kardashians. It was Kenan
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  Speaker 1: in 1997. Okay. He started that. Also, now people are
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  Speaker 1: going to really freak out about this one. He is
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  Speaker 1: the first person that said we didn't land on the moon. Whoa.
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  Speaker 2: In 1997.
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  Speaker 1: I go, what? He goes, look at it. Look at
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  Speaker 1: the way the flag was. He brought up all the things.
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  Speaker 1: It was a studio. There's no way. Wow. And I
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  Speaker 1: was just like, never heard anyone talk about it not
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  Speaker 1: being possibly real. And I used to say that. I'd
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  Speaker 1: be like, I don't know that we landed on the moon.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone was like, what are you talking about? And now everyone,
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  Speaker 1: there's a movie made about it. I'm telling you, in 1997,
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  Speaker 1: he sat in that writer's room and said, we did
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  Speaker 1: not land on the moon. That was in a studio. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: He never wanes. Call me.
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  Speaker 5: Okay?
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  Speaker 1: Call me. Call her. I'm not. Okay, so last night
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  Speaker 1: was a SAG Awards. And I have not seen this movie,
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  Speaker 1: Last Showgirl. I think I will love it. It's like
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  Speaker 1: about an old showgirl. It's Pamela Anderson. Like kind of
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  Speaker 1: it's her last show of like a big, long-running thing
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  Speaker 1: in Vegas. And she's been on this thing for the
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  Speaker 1: last year where she goes to fashion shows. She goes
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  Speaker 1: to big red carpet events with not a speck of
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  Speaker 1: makeup on. She doesn't fill in her brow. She doesn't
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  Speaker 1: put on a tinted moisturizer with sunscreen. She doesn't put
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  Speaker 1: on a chapstick.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I've had a couple of people send it to me
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  Speaker 1: and they're like, I think we're good. I think we're
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  Speaker 1: over this now. Listen, it's her prerogative. She's still great looking.
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  Speaker 1: It's saying something. But this is Juicy Scoop. You can disagree. But.
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  Speaker 1: I would like to see some concealer. Yeah, something. You're
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  Speaker 1: in a gown. I mean, you're in a gown.
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  Speaker 3: The men are wearing makeup. I guarantee you, whatever man
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  Speaker 3: was there had makeup on.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: So it's fine when she's dressed down or she's wherever around.
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  Speaker 6: But when you're in a gown, I mean, it just
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  Speaker 6: sort of calls for, she did her hair.
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  Speaker 1: Why are we doing her hair? I was just going
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  Speaker 1: to say, if you do your hair. Why are you
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  Speaker 1: dyeing your hair if you can't put on a tinted blush?
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  Speaker 3: And why are you coloring it? I mean, curling it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and coloring it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, both.
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  Speaker 1: So you're not like completely, yeah. It's always the kind
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  Speaker 1: of things when people will say like, oh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if God wanted you to have, you know, whatever, you
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  Speaker 1: would have had that nose. No, God made plastic surgeons.
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  Speaker 1: And made like eyebrow pencils. And I'm sure there was
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: a time when braces first started where people in those
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: days were walking around and going, you heard Mildred. Those
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  Speaker 1: weren't her original teeth. They used to be crooked when
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  Speaker 1: I knew her, you know. Same thing with dyeing your hair.
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  Speaker 1: Same thing with back in a million years ago when
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  Speaker 1: they would like create lipstick out of blood of– whatever
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  Speaker 1: villagers i don't know exactly but it is it's it's
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  Speaker 1: okay you know i mean i think it was a
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  Speaker 1: good idea because it it put her sort of back
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  Speaker 1: on the mat like we were all like oh okay
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  Speaker 1: and then she got this.
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  Speaker 6: Movie um now is it yeah go ahead but now
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  Speaker 6: i mean yeah i'm like a little fatigued of it
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  Speaker 6: because listen she is the victim of the over tweezing
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  Speaker 6: you know play playmate look and.
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  Speaker 3: You know That sucks.
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  Speaker 1: She's got to fill it in. You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: It sucks for her. It does.
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  Speaker 3: But she's got to fill that in now.
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  Speaker 1: I also wonder if because this did such a thing,
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  Speaker 1: is it one of those things just like when you're like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, one of those couples, couple goals, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like Will and Jada and they used to dress like
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  Speaker 1: and then we find out they actually fuck around and
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  Speaker 1: actually might hate each other and they're probably both narcissists.
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: It's like But they probably at one point were like, well,
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  Speaker 1: we can't get divorced like 10 years ago because we
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  Speaker 1: have this. So I wonder, now she's like, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: would I like my friend to come over and, you know,
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  Speaker 1: put a little eyeliner on and maybe some mascara. But
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  Speaker 1: now I've done this. Now I can't go back. Now
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  Speaker 1: I'm the poster child of like aging proudly and makeup.
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  Speaker 6: If makeup made you look younger, I'd be wearing 10
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  Speaker 6: times more than I am now. And I'm wearing 10
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  Speaker 6: times a lot of makeup.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't think she can age gracefully and.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not about looking younger. I don't know what
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  Speaker 1: it is.
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  Speaker 4: You know, she was making a statement about being a
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  Speaker 4: sex product and like being used and she had all,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Like she was Pamela Anderson and people like just, but wait,
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  Speaker 1: what if we found an old photo of Julie and
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  Speaker 1: it was full glam? Like at like 26, really? There's one.
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever had like fake lashes put on?
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: She played Mariah Carey on her sketch show. And she
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  Speaker 6: looks good. She's got an hourglass fig.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, can you please... I did drag you. There is
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  Speaker 1: a picture out there floating around of me in full drag.
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  Speaker 1: As a girl.
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  Speaker 3: It's not as good as Mariah Carey, though.
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  Speaker 1: It's more of a character, but I'm in full drag. And...
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  Speaker 1: I did Mariah Carey was the whole thing. That was, like, real. Yeah. Wait,
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  Speaker 1: we have to show that photo at the live show.
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  Speaker 1: You have to find it. I can find it. But, like,
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  Speaker 1: when you did it, I mean, is it ever anything
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  Speaker 1: that you want to, like, experience again? Absolutely not. The
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  Speaker 1: last time I wore a dress for real was at
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  Speaker 1: my prom.
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  Speaker 4: It was a nightmare. It was a living hell. And
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  Speaker 4: I hate wearing makeup. My face literally rejects makeup. I
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  Speaker 4: put it on for two seconds and it goes away.
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  Speaker 1: I do her makeup. You do have good skin probably
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  Speaker 1: because you don't wear makeup. I do her makeup.
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  Speaker 6: I did for People's Couch, Vanderpump, every time. Even the
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  Speaker 6: most recent time, probably for an audition or something. I
• 15:30
  Speaker 6: do boy rocker makeup.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: She immediately starts to wipe it off.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: That's why I'm just like, I'm not.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't mean to, but I do touch
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: my face a lot.
• 15:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: But my face just rejects it.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: It's weird. And I don't like it. It's uncomfortable. I
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: don't feel normal. I feel weird. I don't feel... In
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: a dress, I look like a man in a dress. Yeah.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: You want to be comfortable. You know what I mean? Well,
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: you know what? If this is where she's comfortable, she's comfortable.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, she's certainly got a perfect nose. She doesn't
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: have to shadow her nose or anything. I just was like, hmm,
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: just kidding. She's gorgeous. Now, Demi Moore has been killing
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: it this season, but I was thinking she's looking... very
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: thin a little maybe it's slightly too thin i can't
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: i know people like i can't believe heather's talking about
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: people's body it's a red carpet it's dresses it's outfits
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: she was she's starring in a movie called substance that
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: is about a woman trying to stay thin young and
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: beautiful she certainly has achieved it i love all her
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: dresses that brad gorgeski he styled her she looks amazing
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: shout out brad But like I said, that was one
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: of those movies that I loved the first two thirds
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: and hated the last third. It was so gross.
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: That thing took a turn. Yeah.
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Wow.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: It took a turn.
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: I always think like, imagine like 2010, how absolutely hardcore
• 16:48
  Speaker 6: that would not have been nominated on any level.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Not a single person in it. Not the movie.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: The substance you mean.
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: Maybe it would have gotten special effects.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Maybe.
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: But it's crazy where we've come, where there's just industry.
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: There's just no movies or like.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I liked it.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: I enjoyed it. I'm super happy for her. By the way,
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: did Pamela Anderson, I mean, I did want her to win.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Did she win? Did we know?
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: I don't, no, I don't know. No, I don't think
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: she won. I think we would have seen if she won. Well,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: that's too bad. Did the Amelia Perez- Ugh. Wind? Anything?
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Have you guys seen that one?
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: We did vote. Did you vote? Because we're all in sack.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: No, I didn't vote.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Oh, that's my only thing I get to do.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: So I was like, Julie, get on. And then we
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: were just like, what are you going to do? Well,
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: I'm going to do this.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: What are you going to do?
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: And then we just did.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Who did you vote for best actress then?
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: We probably did Pamela Anderson.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: I think we did Pamela Anderson. We hadn't even seen
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: the movie. But I'll tell you what I didn't vote
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: for is Amelia fucking Perez. Well, I don't think she
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: came because I've been following it. I don't think she
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: came to the BAFTAs. Netflix said, we're not paying for anything. Like,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: you're going to have to do a rideshare Uber. We
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: are not paying for anything. And I think even when
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: they showed her photo, it was like weird, like two claps,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: like someone not realizing, oh, we're not supposed to clap
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: for her. So I don't think she's going to win
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: because she wrote the hateful tweets not that long ago.
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Not that long ago. And like, not just hateful towards
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: one group, but towards everybody, including women. Right. Yeah. Which
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: is weird. Yeah. Also, the movie sucked. It was terrible. Awful.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: I started it on the plane, which I'm usually very
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: forgiving on a plane. I stopped after the first song
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: and went and watched old Sex and the City episodes.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, when you can't even... And I will watch anything.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: And I like a musical. I can get into a musical.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: But this was like... Like, what kind of thing do
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: you want? I want a sex change.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Where do you want it? I want a man to
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: a woman. It was so sophomoric and bad. So why
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: do you think it was nominated for like 20 things?
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: I think that there were parts of it. We went
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: into a deep dive in it on our podcast. But
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: I will say this. I think that it was trying
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: to do something.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: It's on the pulse of a moment. It's, you know.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: It also did have moments of kind of cool, like,
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: visual times.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: However, I think that, you know, what it was doing was.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: Just, like, trying to, like, hitch its wagon on something
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: that it didn't really completely think through.
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Like in a lot of, you know, trans people weren't
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: into it a lot.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: It just wasn't, it didn't hit the mark the way
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: that it was supposed to.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: It had, did it have moments? Yes. But did it
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: miss the mark more?
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: It just missed the mark. It was like, it was
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: like a kid made it. It was like.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: But it wasn't getting panned until the tweets came out.
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: I think because people were afraid to say anything and
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: now they're like, oh, she's, she's an asshole um okay
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: so here are these this couple who's becoming a lookalike
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: ariana grande and her boyfriend what's his name I don't remember.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: But he looks like her brother. We did vote for her. No,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: he looks just like her brother. And they look so
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: much alike. You know, so they're morphing into each other
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: at a young age. And she looks so different than, like,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: what she used to look like. She's changed her look
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: a lot. But I did see The Wicked. I think
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: I've talked about it. The Wicked.
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: We voted for her for best comedy. I had a
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: whole other storyline I put out. I wrote a whole
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: other script. For Wicked. For Wicked. Oh, for the witches.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: What I would have liked to have been. And then
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: people were like, yeah, but you haven't seen the second half.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: And then it gets really good. I go, well, I
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: don't care. I thought of a better idea. In the book.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: I thought they should have been real sisters. I thought
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: they should have been real sisters. So I already went
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: through it, but I had a much better idea for Wicked. But,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: you know, they had to stick with what was originally written.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: for it?
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: This exclusive place that Dad has connections with.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: They have more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: You have to put me in touch. What's it called?
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: It's Dunaidial.
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: Where?
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Dunaidial.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: There's an accent on the E.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Do you mean... Yes, I got it on Dundale Cars.
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: Lift?
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: Please.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Are you going past Kimmage?
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, Kimmage.
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: No.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Dundale Cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: have faced tremendous setbacks and yet somehow have found a
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Life is one long lesson of chaos. I'm heading to
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: the Emmys, and I have police complaints filed against me.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: what would you do if it was given back?
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: Where did that need come from where you thought that
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: He said, I have a work dad. I need a
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: home dad.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: What happens next? When I came in, he started crying.
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: happens next.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: I decided to risk it all.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: I realized how valuable every day was. You're worth the work. Listen, Dara,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to pull punches. You can use your
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: voice even if it's shaped.
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Okay. I had Carol Radziwill on my show. Okay. And,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: you know, she was really good friends with her cousin-in-law
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: kind of a thing. So she was married to JFK Jr.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: 's first cousin, Radziwill. So their moms were, you know,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Jackie and Lee Radziwill. So they were like best friends,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: first cousins. And she also became very close with Carolyn
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Bessette and wrote the book What Remains. And so we
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: talked about that because Ryan Murphy is doing a whole
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: thing called The American Love Story on that time up
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: until their death and stuff. And the paparazzi and him
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: riding around his bike shirtless with a beret. Now, she
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: told me, I think that's one of those weird things
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: where people say you remember the guy from the Monopoly
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: with a monocle, but he really doesn't have one. I
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: don't think he rode his bike around with a beret.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I think he was shirtless a lot riding his bike around,
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: and I think he wore a lot of berets. But
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: I don't think he ever wore a beret and was
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: shirtless in New York. But my whole point was, the
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: guy liked attention. He liked attention. And that's okay. And
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: she didn't, Carolyn. And that was like the paparazzi. Anyway,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: so I said, I think you are going to be featured... Carol,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: in something, or your book could become more of a show,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: maybe about the two girls, which she's working on maybe
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: being a play. So I said, who should play her?
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: So this one, Bridget Medler, someone said that she's a
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: former Disney person and she could be her, but also
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: I really think it should be Leighton Meister. Meister. Meister.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: I think she could play Carol.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: Love Leighton Meister.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: In the 90s, so this was a photo I found
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: of her from her Instagram where I'm like, that's sort
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: of a 90s outfit.
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: I mean, and Leighton Meester is lurking around the edges
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: of consciousness because of Blake Lively because they were on
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: Gossip Girl together. And Leighton Meester supposedly was, along with
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: Scarlett Johansson, were the only two who just classy and
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: kept it quiet, even though they supposedly hate Blake Lively.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Oh, during the Gossip Girl days? No, during. Or now?
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Now. Oh, well, the old clips are, you know, fascinating.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: And there was some clip of them doing a panel
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: or something. And Blake Lively says something about being born
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: in a cage or something. She goes, well, some of
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: us were. And I guess Leighton's mom gave birth to
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: her behind bars. And she said that on stage. I
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: know that she had a joking way. That is probably
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: the meanest thing I've seen out of all the stuff,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: out of all the dumb clangy jewelry and talking in
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: word salad. That's probably the worst thing I saw. But
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: here is the Hollywood Reporter cover of Blake versus Beldoni.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: And the minute I saw it, I was like, wow,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: she is not going to like the way her face
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: looks in this. They made it like, again, she's like
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: her character cartoon has very little makeup. The lips look thin.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: The face looks long. The nose doesn't look as perky.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: And we've all had a caricature done in our life.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: I came across one in the move with Peter and I.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: And it's just like, just so ugly. Cheeks and long chins.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: I was like, why do I have horse teeth?
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Also, why am I two feet tall and look like
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Danny DeVito?
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: We looked like Danny DeVito. Where did you get it?
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: I literally put me in a vest with a bow
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: tie and looked like Danny DeVito.
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: We got it in Spain, in Barcelona, on that long
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: tourist street.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: And we were like, let's do it.
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: And then we get it back and we're just horrified.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Horrified. Disgusting. I did it like at Magic Mountain, Six
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Flags when I was a little kid. Hated it then.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: I have never liked a cartoon drawing.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: No.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Ever. Because it always like.
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: Well, they put the pictures of celebrities and they make
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: the celebrities look attractive. They exaggerate like the more beautiful
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: features of celebrities. So they'll make guys look like Bo
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: Honks or like Marilyn Monroe. And so you're thinking they're
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: going to like accentuate you and make you better looking.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: And they don't.
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: No, no.
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: And then you take it and you're like, and like
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: you swear Julie's like on a stool next to me
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: with like little useless legs.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, why are you on a stool next
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: to me?
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: I look like a leprechaun, like an Italian leprechaun with
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: a mustache.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: She's holding a slingshot with a phone. And it's supposed
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: to be like a David and Goliath thing where they're
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: making her the David and him the Goliath, which they
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: thought it should be switched. And then he's holding the book.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: It ends with us.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: And this is even worse, by the way, as a character,
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: because they're not even making them into caricatures.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: They're making that somebody who is.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: Like, this is what I think these two people look like.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: He looks great. He looks better. I'm like, who's that
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: hot guy? His nose looks like shorter and better. Hers
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: looks longer.
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: Like, no.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: So she supposedly not happy with it. And she's slingshotting
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: a cell phone at him. He's holding the book. So
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: the latest is, did Taylor Swift have anything to do
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: with hiring Isabella, who is the young version of Blake
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: in the movie? So there is a video and Justin says,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: I found this girl, we auditioned her, I thought she
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: was great. I brought over her tape to Blake and
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Taylor was there and they both were like, oh my God,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: she's perfect. And she really was a good casting match
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: for her to be the younger Blake, like the teenage version.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: And so that so that's so she was involved besides
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: giving her song, besides being there when they rewrote the
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: scene of the rooftop scene where she is like, wait,
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: you're a neurosurgeon. Oh, hey, you're serious. Like the rooftop
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: scene is so weird. And so clearly Taylor's going to
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: be deposed. There's no way out of it. I think
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: she's going to be deposed, which nobody likes to be deposed.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: Do they live next door to each other?
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: I'm constantly like.
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: Baffled by how much she's over at Blake Lively's home.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't think she is anymore, but she was.
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: So she just, do they live near each other?
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: I think maybe, I think she had a New York
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: place or I don't know where they were, but yeah,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, it's, I think it's fun to,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: she probably watched Gossip Girl. She probably was a huge
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: fan of hers. And then all of a sudden Blake
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: wants to be her friend. And even though they're, you know,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: you're like, why would Taylor care to, Taylor has that
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: whole thing of collecting cool happening girls that are models.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: And she has her, she was the first one that
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: called it squad. So she likes to have, so yeah,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: I think she enjoyed it until it turned into like
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: the worst Hollywood thing. lawsuit scandal like everyone just comes
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: off looking gross so she's just like staying silent but
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: here's the thing with so last we dropped off uh
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: there was an amended complaint from Blake where she said
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: there is you know I'm submitting evidence that there's two
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: other actresses that also said that Baldoni made them feel uncomfortable.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: So you had to, you know, by process of elimination,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: it's got to be Jenny Slate who played his sister
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: and her best friend and Isabella, the young Blake. So
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: they found out one of the complaints that were like
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: through HR or whatever was through Jenny Slate is she
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: got this apartment. She's a single mom with a two-year-old
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: in New York. And she was saying, I don't like it.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: It's like, it's not enough room for us, whatever. But
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: I don't feel like moving and losing my $ 15, 000 deposit.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: The producer said something like, don't worry about it. We
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: will cover the 15 grand. We'll reimburse you for that.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Motherhood's really important. And it's really important that you as
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: a single mom, like feels comfortable. Allegedly, from what I've
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: gathered in my research, which is not as extensive as yours, probably. OK,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: but it seems like that people are saying that she
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: took that little bit of like motherhood and all that
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: and maybe share that with Blake, which then got back.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: And it was like inappropriate use of talking about like.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: But most people that that talked about it were like, oh,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: my God, like that's nice. They gave her the 15 grand.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: They wanted her to be comfortable. Also, who is uncomfortable
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: in a apartment that's 15000 a month in New York?
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: But New York is an expensive place. I don't know.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: But that was that's the complaint. It doesn't have to
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: do with Justin Bieber. creeping on her as of yet
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: it has to do with that part of the production.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: That she had a bad apartment or that they said
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: the motherhood.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: That the motherhood comment i don't get it.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: I don't either So all he said was confusing about
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: it is that motherhood is important.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: We're going to cover the money and you can find
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: a place that fits you. Well, that's terrible. That's why
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: the team. That's why the team, Justin, people are making
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: videos out of it and talking about it because it
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: is so ridiculous. That is her defense. It could have
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: just been such a throwaway thing that she said to Blake, too.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: And then Blake took it and was like. That's what
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: it sounds like. You know, yeah. It doesn't even sound
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: like she was complaining.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: The complaint being about the apartment probably was too small
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: or it was a studio or whatever.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Who knows? Because New York apartments are tiny and she
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: has a kid and she whatever. whatever. And then they
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: fixed it for her.
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: And then we don't know what, yeah, we love Jenny Slate.
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: So I feel like, is she just totally horrified that
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: she's like.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: She's just staying silent, you know, and she has another
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: show coming up. Good. Um, that's that, uh, my friend
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: is the creator of Nikki Boyer called, um, dying for sex.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: That became like a hit podcast. And as a show
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: about her best friend who is dying from cancer and
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: wants to have sex with all the different kind of
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: sex she didn't have. And it's about two best friends
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: and Jenny Slate plays one of them. So like, she's
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: on to other things, you know, it's just like, but
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: was she a supportive friend in the process to Blake? Yeah,
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: but I don't know. I would guess that she didn't
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: foresee this happening when she's just, you know, we've all
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: been in a job where you're like, want to take
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: a walk around the studio and bitch? Yeah. Meet me
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: for coffee and you bitch and dah, dah, dah. And
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: it's like, I literally just did that.
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: I literally just in our thing in Portland, they booked
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: an Airbnb and, And I was like, no, it's too small.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: It's too small. I've got two of my many pets.
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: We can't do it. We need a different place.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Motherhood is important, Julie.
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: It is.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Being a dog and cat mom is important. It's important.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: It's important. It was too small. I needed a yard.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: Didn't have a yard. It was going to be a stair.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: I can't do it. And you know what? They said,
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: you know what? Don't worry about it. Motherhood is important. Yeah.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: I thought we did have to do it.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: And then, no, we didn't. Well, the second time we did.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: But the first time we did. The second time we did.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: The second time we did have to suck it up
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: because it was for just two days. Yeah. But the
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: first time was going to be like for 30 days. Oh, right.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: And I was just like, no, can't do it. It's
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: got to be. Also, I'm not sharing a space. It
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: cannot be a guest house.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: I can't do it.
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: I can imagine 15,000 down payment in like a whatever
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: deposit in New York.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: I'm quite sure that gets you a studio.
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know what I mean? It probably wasn't big
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: enough for a running around toddler, honestly. No way. Could
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: be stairs. They accommodated her, but in the conversation, allegedly,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: it was in some way interpreted as slightly bothersome or
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: offensive to her, and I think she shared it with Blake. Now,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: the other girl that we think it is is Isabella,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: and now Isabella, we don't know what her complaint was.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: But that's like a 10-year-old?
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: No, no, no. She's like 20-something.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: Oh, okay.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: I didn't realize that. She claimed her as like a teenager.
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: But she's also said on the red carpet, Blake is
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: like a big sister to me. We have sleepovers. We
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: hang out. We make food. She gives me so much tips.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: And some people would say, well, now that's kind of
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: odd to have a sleepover with your co-host. And you're
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: 37 and a mother of four. And you're like, spend
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: the night and hang out. Was she... grooming her, not sexually,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: but kind of grooming her in a way that would
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: make her, you know, again, open up or feel entitled
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: or use that friendship to be like, well, remember when
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: we were bitching about whatever and you said this? I
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: don't know. So those are the little latest things. We're
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: not going to spend the whole show on it.
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: Okay. Okay.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: So this is juicy. I have talked a little bit
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: and joked a little bit about let them because it's
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: all over everyone's feed. And this is Mel Robbins. And
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: she has let us know she has a number one podcast,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: number one, this number one that she likes very much
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: to say that. And a lot of people love her
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: and a lot of people have read her books and
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: gone to her speak motivational speaking. I have not. I
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: have only seen certain things. But the whole let them
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: thing is like if you're all your friends go to
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: brunch and don't invite you, don't don't bitch at them
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: or be mad. Let them let them. But it's also
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: when I looked a little more, it's really also about
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: like really controlling women and mothers like. So basically, I
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: found out why she came up with the let them thing.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Great.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: I've always found it confusing. You're the one who told
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: us about it.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: It's so confusing. I'm like, I don't get it. Because
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, you're just not supposed to ever get
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: mad about anything. Or you're saying, let them. At first,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: it sounds good. Because we had a whole discussion about it.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Because at first, it's like, you know what? Yeah, let them. Yeah.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: They don't control us.
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: And we're going to let them infiltrate all of our
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: thoughts and have da-da-da-da-da.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: But then Brandy's like, what? Let them what? What if
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: they hate you? You don't let them?
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: What if they continually... Like, ignore you. What if they
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: continually ghost you? What if they can, what if you don't,
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: you can't have a, you can't have a back and forth.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: You can't, there's no. And is it let them go?
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: Because then it's like, bye, girl.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Well, let me first get into the controversy over Mel Robbins. Okay.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: And being accused of not, she's been accused of plagiarism.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to use that. That's sort of a
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: strong word, but not giving credit where credit's due. Okay.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: So this guy has a YouTube that was sent to me.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: And he explains everything. And his name's Andy Mort. So
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: I am going to give him the credit. I did
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: not do this research myself, but I watched his whole video.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: And he says this girl, Cassie Phillips, wrote this poem
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: called Let Them. Now, other people are going to say
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: my grandmother used to say let them. OK, so it's like, OK,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: but she actually wrote a poem called Let Them that
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: then sparked people. Getting tattoos and things, calling Let Them
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: Let Me. That's when the tattoos started. That's important to
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: the story. This girl, Cassie, inspired— Cassie Phillips, this pretty
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: girl that's younger, has like a hip look to her, okay? Yeah.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: So this is the controversy. This is the poem went
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: viral in 2022. This is important. And, um, people shared it,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: discussed it, got tattoos in 23. Robbins made a viral
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: video saying she just, and she says, I watched the video.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: She goes, I'm hearing, I've just heard about this thing
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: called let them. And I love it. Blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Then she does a podcast episode about it and it
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: goes big. And then, um, She's like, I just used
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: the theory, let them. And it was at my son's
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: junior prom. And they were, I said, where are you
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: guys going to dinner? And it was torrential rain. And
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: he said, the group is going to this taco stand.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Cheesecake factory. No, a taco stand outside. And she goes,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: and I was like thinking, you can't do that. Or
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: she was saying this, you can't do that. You're all
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: dressed up. Your dates have hair. You can't be standing
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: at a taco stand. Like, let me try to make
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: a reservation with you somewhere else. And she said her
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: 20-year-old daughter said, Mom, let them. And she goes, that's
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: when I had the light bulb moment. And that's when
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: I put the let them theory into it. And that's
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: when I decided I'm going to talk about this and
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: write a book about this. Because I used it. And
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: then the other time I used it is I was
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: at the grocery store. And there were five people ahead
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: of me. And there was only one checker. And I
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: was getting all frustrated and mad. And I was like,
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: let them. I didn't understand that either.
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: Let them what?
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Let them be understaffed? Let the girls struggle? Oh, thank
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: you for not bitching to the manager? Thank you for
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: not bitching to the people ahead of you? Thank you
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: for not bitching to the girl? I don't get it.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: And some people are like, is it being superior? Because
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: it's supposed to be let them rise above it. So
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: are you seeing yourself as a superior being that nothing
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: is to bother you? But I'm like, who are you
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: mad at that you're waiting in line? It's a grocery store.
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Go to Cuba. What's your option to rob the store
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: and steal the groceries? You had no choice.
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: You just stand in line to get your groceries. Otherwise,
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: you leave your groceries, abandon your groceries, or you steal them.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: So the grocery story and the prom story, she has
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: said in numerous podcasts in which this guy put all
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: the clips together. So it's her stories, which a lot
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: of people do when you're peddling a book. You end
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: up telling the same stories over and over, whether it's
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: on Good Morning America or whatever. Oprah, everything. Oprah is like,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: at the end, she says, I love you. They go,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: I love you too. Jay Shetty, who is also a grifter.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: I had the guy on that wrote all about him
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: from The Guardian about his past Buddhist life and all this,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: or monk life that he proved isn't true. Nobody cares.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Everyone is like, Jay Shetty, woo! I'm just saying. Grifters
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: be grifting.
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: OK, so.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: And they stick together.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: So she. OK, so let me give you the timeline.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: So in 2023, she did the video, Mel, about I
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: just heard of this theory. In 2024, she announced that
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: she's writing a book published. Now, this is where this
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: guy realized a big point. Andy Morton. She knew about
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: the poem. She knew about the tattoos that was already
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: out in 2022. She didn't start talking about it till 23.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: The book came out in 24. In the book, she says,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: I was working on this for two years, bringing it
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: back to 22. Not true, because in 23 is when
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: she first did the video of I Just Discovered This,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Let Them. Also, when she decided, based on the viral
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: video and her hit podcast episode about it, when she
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: decided to do the book, she went and tried to
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: register Let Them, trademark register it. which Cassie Phillips, I guess,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: had not done, but they did not give it to her.
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: She does not have the trademark of it. Did they
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: think it was just too common of a phrase?
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: I guess she couldn't prove that it was, like, her.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: You have to really prove that, like, something is yours. Like,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: I wrote a book called You'll Never Blue Ball in
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: This Town Again. Now, if all of a sudden I said,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: you know what? I just came up with this theory.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: It's called blue balling. And what you do is you
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: dry hump a guy... while wearing jeans and it feels
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: kind of nice and it keeps you from getting pregnant
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: and also keeps you from ever getting a third date,
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: but it's called blue balling. And it's a theory that
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: I've been doing now. And I'm just letting people know, no,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: it's like, it's okay. Like if she would have been like,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: you know, or even gone to Cassie and involved her,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: or even if she didn't, even if she said, I
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: saw this poem and I was like, I'm going to
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: take this further. I'm not, And I haven't read the book,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: so I don't know if she interviews people that have
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: done it or, you know, you could have done. I
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: don't know. I'm assuming the book doesn't have anything legally wrong.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: It's just in this world of everyone sharing content. When
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: I see stuff. Oftentimes I go, I saw this somewhere.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: I didn't come up with it. I don't always have
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: everyone's name because I'm scrolling and things like that. But
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: so that is the controversy around the let them. Wow.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: But all these people are just like, oh my God,
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: this is amazing. And she goes, this is the single
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Mel Robbins goes, this is the single greatest thing I've
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: ever done with my life. This moment at 56 years
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: old with this book coming out, this is what I
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: was put on earth to do. Take a poem from
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: someone else. And she says in the interviews, people are
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: getting tattoos. She makes it sound like they're getting that
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: tattoos for her. So her origin story is changed and
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: not correct. The same thing with Jay Shetty. His origin
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: story has been proven not to be accurate. But even
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: when I had that writer on, nobody picked it up.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Because he's so powerful in this space.
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: Maybe, you know. That is just, I mean.
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: She should have had this girl on Cassie when she
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: did her podcast episode about it. Because you said she
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: did a podcast episode right when she got involved, right?
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: She should have had this girl on, the girl that
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: wrote the poem. Yep. And she didn't.
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: No.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: And that's why when people say, oh, you wrote White Chicks. No,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: I did not write White Chicks. White Chicks was already sold.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: And I've said this too. already sold to be made.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: They had already created the whole idea, okay? I was
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: writing on another movie with them. I was waiting for
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: Keenan to arrive, and I saw the Hollywood Reporter article,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: and I said, can I work on this film since
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: I'm a white chick when this gets made? And they go, yeah,
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: we're going to work on that one next. And then
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: I helped with scenes and character development and jokes. I
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: was not... writing it i was a contributor like i
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: always make that very clear when someone says like because
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: i'm like i don't want someone to think i wrote
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: the whole thing and like because maybe that's why the
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: waynes aren't calling me maybe someone was like that stupid
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: bitch is walking around saying she came up with white
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: chicks and wrote it herself no that is not true
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: no that is not true all.
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: Mel robbins had to do is have her on share
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: the glory you know what i mean she could have
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: like And.
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: By the way, even if she did invent it, it's
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: confusing as fuck. I'm sorry you think that's the greatest
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: single accomplishment you ever had.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: I don't get it. I haven't been able to get it.
• 44:13
  Speaker 6: And I feel like you're either a doormat or you've
• 44:16
  Speaker 6: got a superiority complex and it just doesn't resonate with me.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: And I guess she also, when I looked it up,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: I saw that she had an open marriage. And I
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: made a joke about it on a previous episode, which
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: I also cut that clip, which was, of course she
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: has an open marriage. Your husband wants to fuck someone else?
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: Them.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Also, you're a lesbian. Let yourself.
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: Let them.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: But then someone said, no, she considered it. They talked
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: about it, but it never happened. And she saved her
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: marriage and they're still married and committed. So, yeah. Did
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: I maybe give some misinformation? Let me. Was I wrong
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: about it? Let me. Did I read it on the internet? Yes,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: I did. Did the person write it wrong that I
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: read it about? Let them. Let them write something that
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: they weren't correct about. Yeah. It fucking happens. Let them.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Let them. Let them.
• 45:05
  Speaker 6: Don't ever worry about any single thing getting misquoted, misunderstood, taking.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Someone's information and making it a hit book and let them. Yeah.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: But I thought it was a little weird when I
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: saw one clip where she's like, I'm number one podcaster
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: on Amazon, Spotify. I'm like, okay.
• 45:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: You know what?
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: That would be a turn. That's that would should be
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: a red flag right there. You know, it's not a turnoff.
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: I'm number one and all like.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: That's such a turn off. Also, when I first saw
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: the Let Them thing and I first saw a clip
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: about her, I did DM her and I was like,
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: do you think that your friend stopped inviting you to
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: brunch because you became so successful? Because she one time
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: said something and she goes, I thought we were all
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: going to be going on cruises in our 50s. And like, yeah.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know. So I did run her.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I'd love to talk to you
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: about it. Anyway, of course, she's got, you know, 70
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: million followers, whatever it is. I haven't heard from her.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: So that's not why I'm exposing her. I found... Andy Mort.
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: He did it.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: And someone sent it to me on Facebook. And I say,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: thank you for doing that. Cassie Phillips, give her some credit.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: And if you love the book and you love listening
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: to her and all that, that's fine. But we also
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: need to know the truth. And so there you go
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: with that. One thing, just to clarify, one thing Mel
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Robbins has said is that Her let them theory stems
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: from other things like the serenity prayer.
• 46:31
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: God, let me accept the things that I cannot accept.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: You know, that one.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: The things I cannot change.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Like the AA, which they use in the AA meetings.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: But in any other credit that she gets, she never says,
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: from what I have done, the research, show me a
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: clip where she says Cassie Phillips wrote a poem about
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Someone sent it to, you know, I started to see
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: the thing or I didn't know where the origin came from.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: It came from this poem in 2022 from Cassie Phillips. And,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: you know, because like she just has never said that.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: And there's no way she doesn't know at this point.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: What a thankless job, too, by the way.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: You're a poet.
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: Or even if you're a writer and you're writing poetry,
• 47:11
  Speaker 6: she finally got like some traction. People were getting the
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: tattoo with her art. And it's like, and then this
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: bitch comes and usurps it. Like, I'm sorry, Mel.
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 47:21
  Speaker 6: Like, that's just not going to cut it.
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: No.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 47:23
  Speaker 6: This young woman like make does what poet or even poem?
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: No.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: We got Maya Angelou and the bitch who was at
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: the White House.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: And that's pretty much it. Also, I think that the
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: let them theory only does apply to like really bossy people.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: And I'm not a bossy person. Well, there is a
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: part of it. That's why it spoke to me from
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: the beginning. I like to disassociate. I like to just
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: be like, just forget it. Just, I don't want to
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: think about it.
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: Just let, I can't, I just have to, in order
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: to survive and move on, just, they're going to think that.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: I can't compare myself to that. They're going to, if
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: I get too competitive, I'm going to lose my mind.
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: So I'm just going to try and, in some way,
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: it spoke to me about just disassociating or not.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: Which no one would call healthy behavior. Disassociated. It's not healthy.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: I think that part is okay, but now that I've
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: researched more, it's more about like, that's like saying, let
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: your kid go in the rain at the prom? No,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: that's why it's... It's an awful idea. Yeah, that's why
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: I'm saying it doesn't make sense. Can you at least
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: ask if there's an awning at the taco truck? Your
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: kid is 16. He doesn't realize that his date is
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: going to be really bummed and she's a girl who's
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: going to be too shy to say, I don't want
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: to be in the rain or... Like, it's like, yeah,
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: you know, your two-year-old wants to go out in the
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: snow with no shoes on. Let them. I mean, how
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: far does it go? Like, you know, yes, your kid
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: should learn some lessons. But the prom thing, I was like,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's wrong for moms, especially in 2025
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: where these 17-year-old kids are stupid, to say, no, you
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: guys are not going in the rain in your rented
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: suit and your prom dress and your $ 200 hair and makeup.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: We will find, like, I don't think that, and then
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: she was like, Like, I don't know. That's my opinion. No,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: that's why you're right. It's like a bossy mom thing,
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: I guess.
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: No, I think once you scratch one little bit, one question,
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: and that's why Brandy was saying.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: It's like you're either a doormat or you're above it.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: it all.
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: Instantaneously, to me, it spoke to my personal... whatever needs,
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: but then it went, once you go further, it doesn't
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: make any sense. Cause I'm not going to let someone
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: punch me. I'm not going to let someone push me.
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to let someone treat me like shit. I, or,
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: or is that what you're saying?
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: I mean, I prefer the subtle art of not giving
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: a shit.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that, that is good.
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: But the thing of like, as a mother, since she
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: used the mother as her mothering, as an example of
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: letting her kid, one of my greatest, most satisfying moments
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: as being a mom is is when Mackenzie, my daughter,
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: my stepdaughter, she, to be technical, sometimes if I say daughter,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: then people are like, she's really not. And then if
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: I say step, they feel like it's offensive. Whatever. She's
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: my daughter. So she was in college and I was like,
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: where are you going to live for sophomore year? And
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: she had a serious boyfriend. Oh, we're going to rent
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: a house and with the boyfriend. And I was like,
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: you know, with a few other people. And Peter was
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: kind of like, okay, you know, Way to go, Peter.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: But I said, Mackenzie, I don't think it's a good idea,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: and I'm going to tell you why. I go, because
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: if you decide you want to break up with him
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: or whatever, now you're living in this house. It's going
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: to be weird if he brings a girl. If you
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: bring another guy, he could be possessive. It's why you
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: don't live with someone until you're really serious, especially when
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: you don't have the money to just get up and leave.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: And I said, there isn't a girl over 24 years
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: old walking on this earth that would tell you 19-year-old,
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: that's a good idea. It's not just me. It's women
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: just a couple years older than you would say, don't
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: live with your boyfriend sophomore year. And I go, that's
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: all I'm going to say. And then the next day
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: she was like, well, I talked to the boyfriend and
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: he was kind of sad. I go, why is he sad?
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: She goes, oh, because I'm not going to live with him.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: I go, oh, what changed your mind? She's like, what
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: you said. I was like, oh, my God. So now
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: going to our next story. Of the sad thing of
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: Gabby Petito. Ugh. I think she had the greatest— this is
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: the poor girl. You guys know the story. It's a
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: three-part doc on Netflix. And we talked so much about
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: it on Juicy Scoop. This is the girl who went
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: with her boyfriend, living the van life, went missing, and
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: we found out that the boyfriend did it. Okay? Brian.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: So Gabby. But in just getting into it, she— had
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: the greatest four parents ever, the greatest co-parenting thing we've
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: ever seen. The mom and dad had her at 20,
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: broke up when she was seven months old, married other people,
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: had other families. All looked alike.
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: Strangely, they all look exactly alike.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: The mom's a blonde. The dad's are like a cute
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: 45 bald. But they all got along. There was so
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: much respect for the stepmom and the stepdad and all
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: of that. All that was beautiful. And, you know.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: And I think they did everything right in that, too,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: because she was 22. But it's heartbreaking. And, you know.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: You know who did wrong in that situation were the cops. Yes.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: So let's talk about that. Like the parents did their best.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: What are you going to do? She's an adult.
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: She went in the van and did the van life.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Even though I would say there isn't a... Living in
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: the van is going to be less fun. Nightmare. Don't
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: do it. But she wanted to do her YouTube channel.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: But even he didn't... It wasn't like he was like
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: the videographer.
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: He had.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: No skills. None. He didn't go to college. He wasn't
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: working on anything. He wasn't a mechanic. He wasn't a... No.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: He didn't work at REI. He didn't fucking know shit. No.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Why the fuck were they on a van life? And
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: you saw her bitter.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: Like, if you knew how to edit, we could get
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: this done faster.
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: She was already irritated.
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: He was looking to hitch his dick into something. He
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: liked that bug-eyed girl. He was trying to get with her.
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: She didn't want to get with him.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: He was looking to... Oh, the girl that interviewed. Yeah.
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: He was trying to hook into a girl.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: He was fishing for whoever.
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: And she... Did not realize how hot she was.
• 53:16
  Speaker 5: Nope.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: When they showed her legs in those shorts, I was like,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: this girl has got a perfect body. She doesn't need
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: a speckle of makeup. Perfect face. But she, like, I
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: don't think she realized, like, he realized, I can't believe
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: this girl is with me. This girl is way out
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: of my league.
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: Way.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: I have imposter syndrome. I should not be with this girl.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: When is she going to wake up and realize that I...
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: It got balled at 22, so I have a chip
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: on my shoulder. I don't go to school, and I'm
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: a loser. I thought his parents were lying about his age.
• 53:45
  Speaker 6: I was like, I don't know how he was at
• 53:47
  Speaker 6: high school with them, but I'm like, somebody lied about
• 53:49
  Speaker 6: his age.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: But what you were saying about the cops, so your
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: opinion is that the cops didn't handle it right because
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: we see them get pulled over. They were fighting from
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: the beginning from what we learned, all that, whatever.
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: When we saw that body cam of the cops in
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: Utah who pulled them over where they had gotten in
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: the fight, Those cops, in my opinion, are responsible for
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: her death.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: If I were her parents, I would sue them. They did. Oh, good.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: They did, and I think they did get money. And
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: they also sued her.
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: His parents and got his parents are, but we don't
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: know how.
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: Much it's every single police, the police who went to
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: the parents house should be sued.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: Florida, the Florida police were useless.
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: Like they were, they should all be ashamed of themselves.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: They are all responsible.
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: They all have her blood on their hands, but those
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: main cops who put him in a hotel for domestic
• 54:40
  Speaker 4: abuse survivors, because he was the victim of her. When
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: I tell you, I just about burned my entire neighborhood down.
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: This little girl is the, I don't care if she
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: slapped him 50,000 times. You get her, you take her away,
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: and you separate them, and you send her home.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: But no, no, no. She was the... And all those
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: male cops.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: And they're standing around laughing.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: Laughing, saying how she was the aggressor. We have to
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: get him away from her.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: He called her crazy to them.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, they are responsible.
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: They should be fired. They should never be allowed in
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: police working again. And if I were... I mean, I
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: just have to say... So why the parents sued them.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: It was because they said even if– so if you–
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: because they had to like find what the cops did wrong.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: So they're like if the cops should have followed the
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: law and she said, yes, I hit him. She was
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: just– because whatever. But she didn't– when he was like,
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: what about those marks on you? She wouldn't say, well,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: he hit me before yesterday or whatever. Technically they should
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: have said, well, I'm sorry, but we are going to
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: have to arrest you. And so the parents were like,
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: had you arrested her, she would have had to have
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: called us. And then we could have had access to
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: her to be like, what the fuck is going on?
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: And we could have had a chance to save her.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: The defense of those cops is, you know, we were
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: trying to be nice.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: Not give them like a record.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: And not put her in jail because we didn't really
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: think it was a serious thing. We thought it was
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: like a mutual fighting thing. They're living in this tiny van.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: He was polite. She was cooperative. So we're like, here's,
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: you know, here you go. But because technically she said,
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: I hit him. And so therefore he was the domestic
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: violence victim. They were following the protocol that he does,
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: does go to the free hotel room and she's in
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: the van. And then she did, you know, text her
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: mom and, oh, and, and, you know, did again, doesn't
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: want to worry parents. Lots of times kids don't tell
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: parents everything, you know, and cause they don't want to
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: worry them. Um, But there there was that a couple
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: of things. One thing that see the show, that tattoo
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: right here. I just saw someone pointed out. Not me.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: Saw it. Don't know who to cry to. Said, did
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: you notice? So all her really good friend. the one
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: that she met on Bumble Friendship.
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: Oh, right.
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: That was cute.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: That girl has it, and all four parents have it.
• 57:08
  Speaker 6: Oh.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: That's so cute. That they did that. But anyway, so
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: most people agree that probably what happened was he was
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: feeling insecure. He was bugging her when she was working
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: 20-hour shifts at Taco Bell and couldn't be happier to
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: work there to collect the money for the van that
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: she owned. It was her name. And, you know, he'd
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: be like, you just don't want to be with her.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: She's like, no, I'm making tacos. Like, please stop crying. Like,
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. I don't know how
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: to prove to you that I do. So she's realizing
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: after that instant everything, like, what the fuck am I doing?
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: He's totally unhelpful. I'm totally turned off. I don't want to...
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: His mom is a bitch. She probably doesn't want to
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: be intimate with him anymore. She's probably like, what? I could...
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: And she says to her own mom, I could make
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: more money as a single van life person. But she
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: starts texting and calling her old boyfriend.
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: So.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: I believe, and a lot of people I think would
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: agree with me, somewhere at the last Mexican meal that
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: she said she didn't like her food and they left
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: and someone saw that and then they also saw them
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: go to the grocery store was the last time she
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: was seen. In there, there was a call that day
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: or a text to that boyfriend. He obviously saw it,
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: found out, phone texted back, whatever, and he looked and
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: then he was like, And then she probably was like, yeah,
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: I'm fucking leaving you. I'm done. Whatever. And it's just
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: that crime of passion where he is just like, no.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: And then we believe he killed her, strangled her, whatever.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: He has a 55 minute call with the mother that
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: they get from all. So I thought, you know, it
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: was obviously he told her. And then the letter, the
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: mom writes a letter.
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: The mom called the attorney right after that 55 minute call.
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 58:47
  Speaker 6: Pops right onto the phone to the attorney and sends
• 58:49
  Speaker 6: the attorney 15 grand or 25 grand.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: So a lot of people think that the other thing
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: is he's still alive. Because we never did see him.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: They said he came back with the van. We never
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: did see him. Did they go collect the van, say
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: he was in the house, but— you know, because they
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: hadn't arrested him yet. They were still like, you know,
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: giving him all these days. He went off to Mexico.
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: And was there some other dead body or something that
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: he was very responsible for or found? And they put like,
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: But I don't believe that because I'm sure they did
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: a DNA test. So I do believe he's dead. Some
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: people think he's alive still in Mexico and they helped
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: him get a lead because they were the ones who
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: found the dead body. Right, right. But I don't believe
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: in 2025 that you could fake a dead body that
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: isn't his. No, they'd have to do the DNA. They
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: would know that it was his. Well, I feel like.
• 59:48
  Speaker 6: The only way you could fake it, because of course
• 59:50
  Speaker 6: the cops fucked up, And they never got him in custody.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: Over and over again.
• 59:55
  Speaker 6: And it's like, why would he never be in custody?
• 59:57
  Speaker 6: Which is why her parents made that bill, which I
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 6: didn't understand. I was like, what's this bill about? And
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 6: Julie's like, that's so that if somebody's missing, you can
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 6: go to their immediate partner or whoever they're with.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: And ask the 11 questions, which we never found out
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: what the 11 questions were. Which if those cops had
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: asked even then, because even going back to when those
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: cops fucked up in Utah, he said, she's crazy.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: I was defending myself.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: Why are you believing him? Like, it's... It's over and
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: over and over again. And even with the parents, you
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: just allowed that to happen. And then you're surveilling the
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: house and you didn't see him leave?
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: You didn't see him leave.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 6: So I'm saying that the whole country was on it
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 6: and we had a bloodlust for justice. I mean, I
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 6: remember exactly where I was sitting when I heard the
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 6: story before she had been found dead.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: And you're just like, please, God, please, God, please, God,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: let's hope she ran away with someone.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 6: And then you're like, you know, and the way it
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 6: played out and then he ends up dead and nobody
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 6: knows what to do with himself. And it's like, you
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 6: never saw him leave the house. Why was he not
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 6: already arrested? Why was he not just in custody?
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: For just stealing her van.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: Why didn't you just arrest him for stealing the van?
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: You knew it was in her name and you still
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: walked away from the house.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: Do you remember all the other stories that create the
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: lesbian couple that were also murdered? That was like somewhere
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: on their path and they never found out who killed them.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: And that one guy went missing, too, up there, too.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: In that same park.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: And then there was also— when all the TikToks were going on,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: people thought that maybe there was, like, a bunker behind here,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: and he was actually in there for a while. Oh,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: my gosh. Living safely, but I don't think that really
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: matters now.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: I just know from the.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 6: Gilgo Beach, whatever that beach thing is, there's been so
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 6: many proven times.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: Gilgo Beach? Gilgo Beach murderer. Oh, yeah.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 6: The cops will do— in that case— The head of the
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 6: police department of that small town.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: Was arrested. And so was the DA of that town.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: They were literally arrested.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 6: And they never wanted the FBI involved because they themselves
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 6: were doing their own crime.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: So they didn't let the FBI get involved.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 6: And it's like police will cover stuff up if they
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 6: know the whole entire country is going to like come
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 6: for them, come for them. They'll be like, yep, we
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 6: found the body and he's dead. And they won't admit
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 6: that they let this guy slip through their fingers because
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 6: they simply wouldn't. walk up to the, they wouldn't even
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 6: go up to the parents' door. They're standing outside the
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 6: screen like, um, can we talk to you? I'm like,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 6: a young girl is missing and the van is out front.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: Are you kidding? I mean, kidding. And that they, yeah,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: that they immediately ghosted them and everything and didn't say anything.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, so, you know, the question is to parents, like,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: your son calls you and he's like, oh my God,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: you know, we were hiking and let's just say he
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: said this. mom, I don't know what to do. You know,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: Gabby and I, and maybe he says he didn't kill her.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: Maybe he says we were hiking and she slipped and
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: you know, whatever. And now I didn't know what to
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: do because she, let's just say he said what he
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: said in the letter. She was slipping and she fell.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: And so somehow I ended her life. Like you would
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: like a deer or something, which makes no sense, but
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: whatever he might've said, maybe, maybe he said she was
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: hitting me mom and I hit her and she hit
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: a rock and now she's dead. I mean, if I
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: was in that position, pray that I never am, I mean,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: the first thing I would be is we're hanging up
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: right now. You're going to meet with an attorney right
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: now because there might be something more in your story
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: if we go now with the evidence, if we go
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: find her right now, whether he's telling the truth or not,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: but maybe a defense attorney could build a case for
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: a non-premeditated murder. A non-premeditated murder could have gotten him
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: 10 years and he still would have been out by
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: 40 and had a life and you could still visit him.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: So the fact that they thought, no, let's cover it
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: up and let's not answer these poor parents of where
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: their 22-year-old daughter is for three weeks or whatever the
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: fuck it was. Like, they're awful, but we knew they
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: were weird because she said when she was staying with
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: them that the mom was cold and strange. The sister,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: we saw the text between the sister and the mom, like, joking, like, oh,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: the FBI thought it was Brian leaving, but it was
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: actually you or something. It was so.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: And you know it was her. You just know it
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: was her.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: Because they never saw him leave, and you know it
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: was her. We saw them coming in and out.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: Of that house. So wait, what was it? They thought
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: it was him leaving, and she made herself look like him?
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Was this like a.
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: No, they thought.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 6: that when he left supposedly and took that Mustang to
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 6: go to the park.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, for a hike.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 6: That the, yeah, where he eventually, they shot himself, but
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 6: no gun was ever found. But the body was completely
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 6: decomposed in 37 days, even though when they found Gabby's
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 6: body 30 days later, she wasn't decomposed at all.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: Yes. So his body, well, in defense of that, he
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: was in a completely wet state.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: Okay, fine, but all of his stuff was there.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: He had a waterproof bag to make sure that, whatever.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: His letter of saying, I put her out of her misery.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: Where's the gun?
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 6: And I remember when they found his body, and it
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 6: was completely weird that the parents, the minute they let
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 6: the public in, the parents went.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 5: Yep.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: And the police searched the whole area.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: For 19 days!
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 6: The lesbian FBI lady is like, we searched everywhere, but
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 6: it was wet.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: For 19 days.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 3: Showing them up to water to hear.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 6: But the body's a mile, with all of his belongings,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 6: a mile from his car, and they didn't find that?
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: Less than. I mean... I think the parents have their suspicions.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know that they're totally convinced he's dead, but
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: I think they got paid by the police department in
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: a settlement. I think they got a settlement from the,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: because I read, but I don't know what it is,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: from the laundry parent, the parents, I don't know, from
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: their homeowners or how much money they had. Brian, how
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: do you say his name?
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: It's laundry, I guess.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: And they got paid for this documentary. I would hope
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: that they did. It's their story. They wouldn't have it
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: without them. And I'm not saying they did it for money,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: but maybe they're just like, we can't prove that it
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: wasn't him. I don't know. So I don't know, but
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: it is suspicious. Do you think it was his body
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: or not? I don't think there was a body there,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: me personally. That's a lot of people to cover up.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: That's like autopsy and scientists. I think, no, it was
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: his body. I want to think it's not. But I
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: think he killed himself. I'm just shocked he killed himself.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: Like the first week. I don't think he was at
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: the house ever. I think that's why it was more decomposed.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: I'm just so surprised he would even have the balls
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: to kill himself. He was such a pussy that I
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: just can't believe he did it. So I want to
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: believe he's alive so they can find him and kill him.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: I think suicide can, yeah, if you were not such
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: a pussy, then you would stand up and you would
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: do your time and maybe be a spokesperson for like Not,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: you know, getting yourself in a position with a loved
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: one there where you feel like, I don't know, you know,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: because it's really there's so many, you know, look, a
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: lot of we all know how much how many times
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: this happens in a relationship. And it oftentimes it's so classic.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: It's the girl thinks he's great. It's the first guy
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: that really likes her. She just likes having a boyfriend.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: He realizes that she's out of his league and too
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: good for him. She starts to mature and grow and
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: realize she does deserve better. She would like someone that
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: has a house and has a career. And then they're like, no,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: because you're the only thing that makes me successful is you.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to isolate you from your friends and
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: do everything to keep you down so that you stay.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: And when finally the girl is like, fuck you, I'm done.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: And they snap. It's horrible. What about how they went camping?
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: His family, they all went out into the middle of nowhere.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: After she was missing. And the sisters out there.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 6: Are like, oh, well, I just went with my kids
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 6: for six hours. It's like they were emptying stuff into
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 6: the lake or the river.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: They were making a plan. They were all covered. They
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: all knew. They knew at the 55-minute call that she
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: was dead that day. Yes, 100%. Yes. And he killed
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: her in cold blood. Yes. She didn't fall. No. And
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: even then. But if he would have been honest right
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: off the bat. I think there would be a very
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: good case to say it was not premeditated. He did
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: not take her in the van to kill her. He
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: could have. It could have been very much crime of
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: passion snapped, which is not premeditated.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: But he still spent his life in jail.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: No, he would have been in jail. But I'm saying, like,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: if he would have done the right thing right away,
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: then there could have been a good case of, like,
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: this guy doesn't deserve to spend the rest of his
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: life in jail. At least they could still visit and
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: talk to their son. You know, the Petito parents can't.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 6: That's why I didn't think he killed himself, because he
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 6: was such a pussy. He couldn't even... face the consequences
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 6: of anything. He couldn't even come up with like a, any,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 6: he couldn't do anything without calling his mommy for an hour.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 6: I'm like, there's no way that guy has the balls
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 6: to kill himself. He was such a loser.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: Like, in every way.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 6: I think killing yourself is freaking scary. And I mean,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 6: and again, we don't know where, what, where's the gun?
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: Why was the gun? Where'd he get the gun? Whose
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: gun was it?
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 6: And where where's the gun that he shot himself in
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 6: the head with? Why would you be like, we found
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 6: his backpack and we found this. We found his shoes
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 6: and they didn't get washed away in the 10 day
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 6: torrential downpour. Everything was still there.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: But I hope he's alive. I hope he's alive. I
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: hope that those two bald and he's listening to Juicy Scoop.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: I hope so, because if you are, I hope that
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: those two bald dads have a P.I.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: Right now on the case that they aren't talking about.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: And they're going to hunt his ass down and they're
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: going to do in the bedroom style killing.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: And you remember that movie?
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: In the bedroom. No.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: Oh God.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: That's a good one.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: I put it on the bedroom, put it on the list.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: The dad, the parents, a slow burn space second. I
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 4: can't remember the guy's name. Their daughter gets murdered.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: You know what? I think I remember seeing the trailer,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: but I never saw it. So I'm going to watch it.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: I will not give you the spoiler. I'm going to
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: watch it. Um, so satisfying little update. Um, Dave Grohl
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: cheated on his wife and had a one-year-old baby that
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: he announced about a little while ago. And there were
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: rumors that it was a 19-year-old.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 5: No.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: She is 38. She is– I've read a few things.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: All we know from New York Post is her name
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: is Jennifer Young. She's 38 and born in Florida and
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: lives in L.A. with their child. Okay? But I've heard
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: that she was a fan. And I also read somewhere–
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: don't know if this is true– But that she was
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: his mother's caregiver. Oh. So he's coming over and, you know.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: That old chestnut. And then that starts. That old chestnut.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: It's either the daddy or now the elderly caregiver, like
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: just the proximity of like how lazy do you have
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: to be? And that we but then look, I think
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: it's been clear. He always he went out of his way,
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: which I was always suspicious of because everyone at Chelsea,
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: they loved him because he did a week of shows.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: And I was like, whatever. Like, I didn't think it
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: was that great. Everyone but Courtney Love and I were
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: like a little suspicious. And he was always so about, oh,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: my God, he's the rock and roll, like, but perfect dad.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: He shows up at the Sherman Oak School and, like,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: flips the burgers for Chili Dave. And, oh, he's so cool,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: but he's fucking damn cool. But he's, like, making burgers
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: for the kids. No, he was a serial cheater. There's
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: evidence all about it. And, you know, hopefully he's a
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: good dad to all these kids, but he's a serial cheater.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: Is he staying with the wife or the— They haven't
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: gotten divorced yet. They were seen in a car talking.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: But then there was something that they were hanging out together, too.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: So who knows? But there's a little update. Meghan Markle
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: has rebranded her American Orchard Jam Company or whatever it
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: is to As Ever. And she posted this like this
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: thing of her inspiration board, like a Pinterest or whatever.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: And on it, she has some fun little things. Like
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: little sayings like happiness looks gorgeous on you or you
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: cannot make everybody happy. You are not a jar of Nutella.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: So these are the hints. These are, oh, is she
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: going to make her own Nutella type of thing? And
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: they said, no, the first brand is going to be
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: a raspberry jam. Shh, don't tell anybody. The world has
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: been waiting for Meghan Markle's raspberry jam. The depth. I mean,
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: I cannot stand Meghan Markle. I mean, I'm sorry. I
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: just cannot deal with her. When she married him, I
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: was all for it. I liked the wedding. I liked
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: her choice of dress because I predicted her neckline and
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: had evidence to prove it. I didn't understand why Phil
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: didn't like her. And then, you know, now I'm just like.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: Now I just hate when like. in this day and
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: age when like stars of any age, like get on
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: the social media train, like late in the game. And then,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: but they're basically like copying other people that truly are authentic,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: like doing their social media, like with a phone. And
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: then like, you know, like I literally think she said, Harry,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: like make sure we can hear her in the back.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: Make sure we have like some little kid go in
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: the back and like all like literally she studied it.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: Cause I think she is, extremely inauthentic. That's what I think.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: So is that why you don't like her?
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: That's why I can't stand her. I think she's not authentic.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: And that's just that she's.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: Also like, um, like we need our privacy. Like I
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: should think she completely and really don't care. Yeah. All
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: the hype is over with. We don't care. And you just,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: you ruined a family. I mean, I hate to say it.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: I know that there's all kinds of issues involved. Yes.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 4: And there's all kinds of grievances that are real. But
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: I don't understand why you didn't stay in that family
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: and make the changes that needed to be changed rather
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 4: than pussing out and leaving.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: Because it wasn't as fun as she thought. And there
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: you go. And that's not even authentic. Yeah, it was
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: a lot more work. It was a lot more rainy days.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: It was a lot of talking to uninteresting people. as
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: your meet and greets or whatever it was, she had
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: to go to like weird places and hello. Right. And
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: it was, she was like, I lived a life of
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: being like a BC actress and that was way more
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: fun than this. And so then along with everything else
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: and then, you know, feeling whatever her legit things are that,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: you know, all the articles and everything, not feeling supportive,
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: I give her that. But she was like, no, let's
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: go to back. Let's go to Montecito and be with
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: a cool, successful millennials and then become the Kardashians and
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: do a big thing. And she did for a while.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: She was winning. She had all the Netflix deals, these
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: hundred million dollar podcasts where she wasn't even really interviewing them,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: all of it. And now the final thing is this
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: food show and jams. Wow. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 6: I wonder if he feels coming here that he's like,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 6: this isn't as fun as I thought it would be.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: Well, I think she's also realizing like, yeah, it's more
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: interesting when you're a really when you were a prince
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: and we were doing princely things and people wanted to
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: be our friends. Like everybody's like doesn't really want to
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: be the friend or take photos with them. You know,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: they were totally people that like would meet like this.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: This happened where I heard from a couple of people
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: that knew rich millennial type successful people out there. And
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: she would meet them, you know, realize they have a
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: home in Aspen or a jet or whatever. And then
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: he would do the follow up. Oh, Megan said she
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: had such a great chat with you. And we've been
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: looking to go to Aspen. We just don't know where
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: to stay. And then they'd be like, well, we're not
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: using our house. You can have the house and the
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: staff and everything. Oh, that'd be wonderful. And how exactly
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: do we get there? Do you guys take a jet?
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: And then they would get the free jet.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: But then those people after one or two times. are like,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: this friendship isn't continuing.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens, but there's some scoop for you. Okay,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: Menendez Brothers, just to give you the update. So the
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: new DA said that he does not support a new trial.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: Oh.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: They wanted to do a new trial because of two things.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: One is the band member that was in Menudo did
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: an affidavit saying that he was sexually assaulted, everything, by
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: the dad, Jose Menendez, who was in the music industry
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: and was in charge of all of that. Also a
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: good documentary to watch. Yes. And then the other one
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: was there was a letter that his aunts or whatever
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: have found that was sent to a cousin who has
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: now died that he sent, Eric sent to his cousin
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: in 1988. The murder was in 89. That says he
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: is being molested.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 5: So.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: The DA is saying a couple things. He's saying even
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: if they were molested, there isn't enough evidence to then
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: redo the trial because even if they were molested, it
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: doesn't take away the fact that, this is what Matt
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: Murphy said, that they killed for money because otherwise you
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: would have let the mom live. The motivation for the
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: killing was the $ 15 million, according to the prosecution. It
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: wasn't that they thought they were going to die that day.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: They went and reloaded the gun and went back and
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: finished off the mother. Because if they just killed the dad,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: the mom would have gotten the $ 15 million. But if
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: they're both dead, they get the $ 15 million. And because
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: the way the law is written is if you kill
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: for money, it changes whatever, the legality of it. So
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: he does not recommend a new trial. However, And also
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: he said, then why wasn't that letter brought up during
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: two trials? I had thought that it was. If they
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: talked all about their abuse, why didn't Eric go? He's
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: sitting in there for years. Wait a minute. I sat
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: down and wrote a long letter to my cousin a
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: year prior saying it out. You've got to find the letter.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: Or my cousin's got to get on the stand, which
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: the cousin did, and say he sent me a letter.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know where it is. We moved. We're looking
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: for it. But he sent me a letter. There were
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: cousins that did corroborate.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: But the letter wasn't brought up. So there's like, hmm,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: was this letter created? Was this letter from a different
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: date that was like, created? We don't know. I can
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: see why ants and stuff. And, like, listen, if they
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: got out tomorrow, I wouldn't be upset about it. I
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: feel like they're not a threat. But the law is
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: the law. So the DA is saying that. But in March,
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: a board will decide if they should be resentenced. And
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: if they get resentenced... A.K.A. released. If they get resentenced,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: where they change what it is, then the time would
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: have been done. But Gavin Newsom has to make the
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: final yes or no if they get out. So there's
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: still a chance they could get out in March. But
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: there will not be a new trial.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: They don't want to get sued. They're going to be like,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: we'll let you out. We won't retry you.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 5: I hope so.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: But they're going to have to sign something where they
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: don't get sued. Like where they don't sue.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 5: Oh, right.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: Because there's a new trial. Can they also sign something
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: where they don't get a podcast deal?
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: That's a good idea.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: Because that's going to happen. Watch over kill. I'm telling you,
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: I've been saying the Menendez brothers will absolutely have a podcast.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: It's a no brainer. It will be a bidding war
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: of them telling all their stories, interviewing other people that
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: get out of prison, all of it.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 6: I feel like in my heart, It's like Drake and
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 6: Brandon getting out. Because of how many times you have said,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 6: I hope you guys stay close.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: I just want them to stay close. I actually want
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: them to do a podcast together just so they get
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: to see each other every day. I'm like.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my God, Drake and Brandon, they're finally
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: getting out.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're probably getting out.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: They both got married, right? While they're in there.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: I hope they get out. I hope they get out.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: And you know what?
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 4: Whether it was for money or whatever, the mother knew.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 4: They spent enough time there. When the abuse is detailed,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: the systematic shit that they went through I'm really, I'm sorry.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: The mom was a monster.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, I believe they were abused for sure, but
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: I understand the legal stuff. I get it.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 4: But the type of, and the DA, come on, man,
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 4: like in the type of abuse that they suffered and that,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 4: that Minuto kid suffered and what that dad did, the
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 4: mom knew people knew like they've spent the time, let
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 4: them out.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: They did it. So let's go. When I, when both
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: the boys watch the, you know, um, Ryan Murphy and, um,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: You know, when I watched it, I was like, you know,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: of course thinking about Drake and Brandon. Not being molested,
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: but if they were in this thing. And I was like, Drake,
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: when you watched it, did you feel for Lyle when dumb,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: dumb Eric went and spilled the beans? Because if it
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: wasn't for Eric telling the therapist... Right. They really didn't
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: have any. They did not have. They weren't really on
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: the trail. They still thought maybe some mafioso people came
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: in and was going to kill them. So it wasn't
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: until the therapist got told and then felt like his like,
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: you know, whatever his reasons were. But Eric's like, you know,
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: Lyle was just like, but that was the other thing
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: that the D.A. said, that when they did share it
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: with with the therapist at that point, he didn't say
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: then to the therapist, it's because we were being molested.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: He just said we did it. And so they were
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: all and that was all being taped and stuff. So
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: it was all those kind of things that got them convicted.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: But 35 years later. Yeah, we'll see. I bet Newsom
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: lets them out. So we are going to have so
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: much fun in our cute outfits in Palm Springs at
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: Alga Caliente this Saturday, March 1st. And then in between
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: then and after, I hope you guys are following Brady
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: and Julie. And tell them everything that you've got going
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: and where they can listen to all your fun. Cause
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 1: you guys are doing so much. Well, we've got a
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: couple of shows. We have a couple of podcasts.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 4: One is the dumb gay podcast, which right now is,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 4: is where we're leaning into the politics right now. So
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 4: if you're a, You know, a person who's not really
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 4: into politics, we do lean liberal, but you want to
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 4: know what's going on and you're sort of like in
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 4: and out of it. Our show is a good place
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 4: for it. We do try and like make it funny,
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 4: make it fun.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Do that. It's called infotainment.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: It's infotainment. Yeah, it is infotainment.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 4: We are definitely, you know, giving our takes and but
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 4: also trying to be informative, but also.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: Trying to be funny. We're not NPR.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 5: Okay?
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: We're not NPR. And then we have our Patreon, which
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: we do three shows a week. We have video. We
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: have audio. That's a lot. And you can join. Yeah.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: We do three one-hour shows a week.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 3: But it's no politics.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: At all. We stay away from it completely. So we do.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 4: And how do they sign up for that, girls? They
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 4: go to patreon.com slash dumbgay.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: Just go to julieandbrandy.com. Just Google Julie Brandy. Juliebrandy.com.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And, of course, mine is at HeatherRenton.net. And
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: this weekend's going to rock. It's going to be gorgeous weather.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: We're going to have so much fun. So much fun.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: We're going to make everybody jealous that didn't get their
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: tickets on time. I mean, we're desert sluts.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 6: And this is the first time that we're, like, going
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 6: to be. We've been desert sluts together many, many times.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: I'm on stage. I'm excited. Oh, my God. In a casino?
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: It's going to be so fun. Can't wait. Thank you.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: Christmas shopping has already started in our house. My daughter
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: is so organised, already planning Christmas gifts from Macaulay. Hair
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: care for her aunt and a fab fragrance for her bestie.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: But the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. I'm
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: an early bird, buying one present a week from now
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: till Christmas, which makes budgeting less stressful. I can buy
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: in-store or online from Macaulay.ie for home delivery or free
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: click and collect.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: So easy.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: Gifts they'll cherish at prices you'll love.