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Why Spiritual Awakening Can Feel Like an Existential Crisis with Jennifer Rose · Mediumship Sparks-The Next Chapter

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Speaker 1: As soon as that gets triggered, you can't go back
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Speaker 1: once you go down that rabbit hole of knowing yourself.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to Mediumship Sparks, where we connect more deeply with
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Speaker 2: spirit and source and follow the sparks of insight and
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Speaker 2: inspiration that bring us greater awareness, healing, and just more
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Speaker 2: flow into our lives. I'm Noel dean intuitive medium, licensed therapist,
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Speaker 2: and your host. A quick note before we begin. This
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Speaker 2: podcast is for educational purposes only and provides general information.
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Speaker 2: It is not medical or psychological advice and is not
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Speaker 2: a substitute for care from a licensed health professional. I'm
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Speaker 2: so grateful we get to step into this together. Let's
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Speaker 2: dig in. Welcome to Mediumship Sparks. We have a special
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Speaker 2: guest today, so everybody, this is Jennifer Rose.
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Speaker 3: Hello, Noel, thank you so much for having me on
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Speaker 3: your program.
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Speaker 1: Honored to be here, and hello to all of our
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Speaker 1: viewers who will be sharing this space with us. My
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Speaker 1: name is Jennifer Rose and I come from California and
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Speaker 1: I work as a psychic medium. I am also a
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Speaker 1: healer and a transformational guide, a speaker, podcast host, and
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Speaker 1: a writer. I work in all kinds of mediumship, including
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Speaker 1: trance and physical and I love channeling. I do a
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Speaker 1: whole bunch of things, and I teach as well too.
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Speaker 1: I am very busy, but I absolutely love what I
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Speaker 1: do because it lights me up. If I was this
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Speaker 1: busy and didn't like what I did, that would be harder.
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Speaker 3: But so very.
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Speaker 2: Blessed, wonderful. That is a long list.
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Speaker 3: It is.
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Speaker 2: It is how long have you really been engaging in
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Speaker 2: all of this work.
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Speaker 1: I started my development in like twenty fifteen, sixteen, so
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Speaker 1: it's been a good ten plus years now. And it
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Speaker 1: was jam packed because I put myself through like spiritual
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Speaker 1: boot camp and did a lot of training in a
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Speaker 1: short period of time, a lot of spiritual awakening as well.
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Speaker 1: So it's been a very intense decade for sure to
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Speaker 1: get me to this place.
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Speaker 2: That is a lot packed into ten years. It is
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Speaker 2: the things that you help people with is their own awakening?
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Speaker 2: Is that correct?
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Speaker 3: Yes, because I've been through it.
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Speaker 1: If anybody comes to me and they're going through that,
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Speaker 1: they think they're going crazy or they think I'm that,
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Speaker 1: I think they're crazy, And it's usually very mild compared
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Speaker 1: to what I've seen and heard or experienced myself.
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Speaker 3: And that's important.
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Speaker 1: Because that's something that people are very scared to speak
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Speaker 1: about because some of the things that are happening to
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Speaker 1: them are very unusual. They just need somebody to believe
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Speaker 1: in them and trust them and be able to hold
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Speaker 1: the space and have them not feel judged in any
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Speaker 1: way too.
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Speaker 3: If they're like, you're gonna think I'm crazy, No, I
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Speaker 3: will not.
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Speaker 2: Be surprised at what sounds normal after a while exactly.
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Speaker 1: If that's so true, and mediumship Land, that's absolutely true.
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Speaker 2: There are times you probably have this too, where you're like,
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Speaker 2: holy crap, what am I saying?
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Speaker 1: We forget because we're in this container with people that
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Speaker 1: are like like mind, and we forget that somebody who's
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Speaker 1: not in that container might hear what you're saying and
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Speaker 1: come to a different judgment on this Swiss too, because
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Speaker 1: we're seeing the unseen, we're hearing the unheard, We're experiencing
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Speaker 1: things on a metaphysical and symbolic psychic level, feeling intense
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Speaker 1: energies that are different from what other people are usually
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Speaker 1: tuned into. So we have this hyper attunement to the
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Speaker 1: extrasensory perceptions and the world that is coexisting with us
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Speaker 1: that most people don't know is coexisting until they awaken themselves.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure they would feel like I was blissfully ignorant,
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Speaker 2: but now I don't want to turn back.
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Speaker 1: Spiritual awakening is very hard on the psyche and the
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Speaker 1: mind because there's a breakdown of belief systems in how
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Speaker 1: the world works, how your relationships work, and who you
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Speaker 1: think you are. As soon as that gets triggered, you
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Speaker 1: can't go back. Once you go down that rabbit hole
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Speaker 1: of knowing yourself. When your versions of yourself keep changing,
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Speaker 1: it's like the evolution gets sped up versus a regular
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Speaker 1: person goes through their maturing process much more slowly.
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Speaker 3: This really rapidly.
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Speaker 1: Transforms you into more of who you are. I don't
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Speaker 1: want to say the whole personality is false or an illusion,
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Speaker 1: because you come in with an essence that is you,
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Speaker 1: But then there's a lot of layered programming and things
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Speaker 1: on top of that can be unraveled and let go of.
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Speaker 1: But sometimes it's very quick when that happens, and that's
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Speaker 1: really hard on the mind to discover who you thought
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Speaker 1: you were is not who you are now, and so
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Speaker 1: that gives you a very existential crisis. It's very hard
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Speaker 1: on people and a lot of people they don't want
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Speaker 1: to talk.
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Speaker 3: About the dark things that they experience.
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Speaker 1: And by that, I don't mean bad spirits or things
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Speaker 1: like that, just spiritual darkness. And it's the higher self
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Speaker 1: or the souls for whatever reason, how it's been designed.
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Speaker 1: Because we live in this framework of duality, we experience
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Speaker 1: darkness or in the psychic visions as well, kind of
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Speaker 1: like having a bad dream, right, you're just a little
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Speaker 1: bit more aware of it because you're not fully asleep yet.
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Speaker 1: And so that happens for people too, and they don't
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Speaker 1: understand and they may think some things coming to get
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Speaker 1: them and things like that too, and they don't realize
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Speaker 1: that your own consciousness will create projections within your mind
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Speaker 1: to teach you something. And in the shamanic cultures that's
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Speaker 1: known it's very common, right, and they go in their
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Speaker 1: initiations or someone's being called to become the next medicine
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Speaker 1: person for their community and things like that.
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Speaker 3: They look at this as very normal.
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Speaker 1: That's why people get scared to talk about it because
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Speaker 1: they don't understand it too. But it's a way of
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Speaker 1: integrating duality and experiencing it in different ways. The sole
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Speaker 1: essence of us is very symbolic and it likes to
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Speaker 1: tell stories. Some are beautiful and some are a little
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Speaker 1: creepy sometimes just like the dream world.
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Speaker 3: That's just what it is. But in the end you.
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Speaker 1: Come out stronger each time, or more integrated each time.
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Speaker 1: That gives you another resource of spiritual energy for creating
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Speaker 1: a better life and having more of your intuition available
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Speaker 1: to you as well. That reconnection at the end of
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Speaker 1: these episodes that we go through, that brings us into
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Speaker 1: total connection with the universe and the energy that is
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Speaker 1: everything is eternal, right, and you look at a tiny
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Speaker 1: flower petal, or a leaf or a blade of grass
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Speaker 1: and is the most beautiful thing you've ever seen because
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Speaker 1: you see the perfection in all of it too, So
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Speaker 1: that part happens too, and then you get to see
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Speaker 1: divine beings there with you as well. There are gifts
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Speaker 1: at the end of this difficult, dark pregnancy that we
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Speaker 1: go through.
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Speaker 2: I love how you articulated integrating the duality and not
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Speaker 2: seeing things in a black or white good or evil
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Speaker 2: or something is going to get you. But it can
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Speaker 2: be really startling to experience some of the energies or
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Speaker 2: the visions that you can get exactly my awakening was
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Speaker 2: very slow, Thank goodness. It's about integrating all these things
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Speaker 2: and not shoving things away. I love what you were saying.
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Speaker 2: It really makes you question who you are because you
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Speaker 2: come in with this essence. We have layers of socialization
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Speaker 2: and expectations and culture and family. How do we even
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Speaker 2: know who we are? Really, it's like scraping off the
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Speaker 2: peanut butter. There's still more and now there's another layers.
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Speaker 3: It's so true it seems never ending.
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Speaker 1: I think this sort of maybe chasing enlightenment is maybe
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Speaker 1: not the best use of people's time because there's probably.
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Speaker 3: Always going to be more layers.
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Speaker 1: I have been through so much spiritual awakening, and I
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Speaker 1: cross the bridge of fully embodying the understanding that I'm
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Speaker 1: not a separate self, that my personality is not separate
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Speaker 1: from my spirit so beyond intellectual knowing, that's how far
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Speaker 1: I've gotten. But I'm still working through more layers. Oh
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Speaker 1: that was there. Oh I thought that was me. Okay,
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Speaker 1: that wasn't me. This is more me now.
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Speaker 3: So I'm still becoming more me as I go, and
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Speaker 3: still learning. Even with all of the work.
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Speaker 1: That I've done, and I've done a lot, we'll probably
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Speaker 1: be doing this and.
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Speaker 3: That's just keep cleaning house.
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Speaker 2: You think enlightenment is this ultimate goal, but it isn't.
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Speaker 2: And I would question anybody, including myself, if we said, oh, yeah,
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Speaker 2: I've done all the enlightenment I'm going to do, and
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Speaker 2: I'm doing great Right now. It feels like the continual
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Speaker 2: evolution of becoming freer and this cleaner version of ourselves
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Speaker 2: all the time and whoever we're okay to evolve into.
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Speaker 2: Given this new foundation of connection and integration, it feels
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Speaker 2: not just unpredictable, sometimes a little uncomfortable, like really uncomfortable
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Speaker 2: to feel like I'm living a life that was unpredictable
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Speaker 2: based on who I was.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand if we think we've made it, there's
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Speaker 1: probably going to be another something that's going to show
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Speaker 1: you there's always more too. So Yeah, I feel like
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Speaker 1: I've reached a much greater level of authenticity that I've
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Speaker 1: ever known in my entire life. And I'm so happy
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Speaker 1: about that. I'm so proud of that that I worked
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Speaker 1: this hard to be this much me as I am.
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Speaker 3: There's always going to be more.
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Speaker 1: I'll be more authentic next year than I am this
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Speaker 1: year because I've done more work, more integrating, more know
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Speaker 1: thyselfing sometimes when you look in the past and go, oh,
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Speaker 1: that version of me didn't.
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Speaker 3: Know she thought she was this, and as wow.
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Speaker 1: But we can give ourselves some grace that we did
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Speaker 1: the best we could with what we had and what
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Speaker 1: we knew. Those versions, once they're given the love and
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Speaker 1: the appreciation, hopefully they just integrate and anything that's false
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Speaker 1: can fall away and that energy becomes usable for something
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Speaker 1: else too. So it's like we had to give up
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Speaker 1: the ghost, meaning who we thought we were, because sometimes
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Speaker 1: that part can come forward again, maybe at times that
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Speaker 1: we're like, oh, who was that just now? If we
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Speaker 1: don't integrate all of these versions of us, we'll find
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Speaker 1: a way out to say, hey, I'm still in here somewhere.
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Speaker 3: So all of that needs love.
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Speaker 1: As soon as you see it, as soon as you
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Speaker 1: know it, and as soon as you give it the
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Speaker 1: eyes and the voice that is asking for then it
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Speaker 1: usually comes in and you get into that awareness like
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Speaker 1: this part is no longer the absolute truth of who
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Speaker 1: I know myself to be now, Yeah, I love that.
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Speaker 2: Part of my conversation with my friend this morning, it
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Speaker 2: was how still upset I feel about a relationship with
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Speaker 2: a family member and I'm like, thank you for listening.
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Speaker 2: How are you not sick of hearing about this? And
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Speaker 2: she said, it's not the same conversation we would have
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Speaker 2: had a.
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Speaker 3: Year ago about this. You keep changing.
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Speaker 2: It's almost like it's a different shade of the problem,
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Speaker 2: but it's not the same because you keep changing. I
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Speaker 2: wish I could reach in and squeeze that younger version
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Speaker 2: of me that's still hurt and hold her and heal
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Speaker 2: her and let it. But I'm still not there yet.
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Speaker 3: It's really hard.
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Speaker 1: And what you could say to that part of if
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Speaker 1: it matters to you, it matters to me too. You know,
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Speaker 1: if you're my friend and you're going through something, I'm
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Speaker 1: not going to judge it as in significant animis. If
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Speaker 1: it matters to you, it matters to me. And we
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Speaker 1: could do that for ourselves too, instead of saying, oh,
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Speaker 1: that's silly, I shouldn't be worried about that, But that
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Speaker 1: part of you is, and we try to intellectualize it away,
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Speaker 1: and those parts will not. They just say nope. They
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Speaker 1: just say nope. None of your logic and reasoning helps
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Speaker 1: me right now. They just need love and to be heard.
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Speaker 1: And so sometimes when my parts I can hear them
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Speaker 1: in my thoughts, those younger parts of me, and I
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Speaker 1: just go, I can totally understand why you would feel
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Speaker 1: that way and think that way. I get it. I
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Speaker 1: feel you too, and that way. I'm not resisting what is.
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Speaker 1: But it takes a lot of practice because I used
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Speaker 1: to just and this could be. This is the one
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Speaker 1: tricky part of law of attraction that people need to
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Speaker 1: be really careful about that they're not disassociating from their
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Speaker 1: thoughts because their thoughts are messengers.
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Speaker 3: So if you just say I'm not going to think
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Speaker 3: that thought, I'm going to think positive.
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Speaker 1: Those thoughts are coming from parts of you that are
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Speaker 1: trying to get your attention.
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Speaker 3: You have to listen.
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Speaker 1: You have to listen to them. And I would just
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Speaker 1: be like, no, thanks, and I would just switch my mind.
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Speaker 1: I got really good at it, and then I started listening,
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Speaker 1: and then I was like, oh, look.
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Speaker 3: What's going on in there? Wow?
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Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know your thought so passionably about that.
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Speaker 2: What a beautiful way to apply compassion to yourself, even
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Speaker 2: the parts you don't want to look at because you're
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Speaker 2: sick of hearing about what they're upset about.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's lovely, I know.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I go, oh, my friends must be so
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Speaker 1: tired of hearing me talk about the same person or
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Speaker 1: same situation over and over again.
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Speaker 3: And then I think, maybe I just need to be
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Speaker 3: quiet and not do that anymore.
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Speaker 2: As you're listening to them talk about their same things
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Speaker 2: over and over again, because that's what friends do, and
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Speaker 2: that's what people do, right until we reach that place
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Speaker 2: of maybe greater resolution or acceptance more of what it
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Speaker 2: sounds like you're talking about. And I hadn't really thought
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Speaker 2: about hearts work in that kind of way, but what
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Speaker 2: a beautiful way to look at it. That year old
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Speaker 2: is still very upset right now, and if I do
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Speaker 2: treat her like you're right, you're right, I agree with you.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what would we do with and if it was
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Speaker 1: another person, if it was another child, what would we do.
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Speaker 1: We'd probably sit and listen, especially being a therapist, you
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Speaker 1: would listen to them without judgment, and we can do
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Speaker 1: that far inside parts. I found it very helpful.
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Speaker 3: Anyways, Yeah, I could see why with mediumship.
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Speaker 1: One of the first problems or issues that we counteract
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Speaker 1: as a perfectionism when we start developing, right, and it's
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Speaker 1: like we compare ourselves to the other students and then
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Speaker 1: we try to be perfect and when someone says, no,
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Speaker 1: my grandfather didn't have brown hair, he.
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Speaker 3: Had white hair, and then you hear that note, Oh, no,
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Speaker 3: I did something bad. I failed, I failed spirit, I
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Speaker 3: failed this person.
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Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed. You have to learn to be okay with
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Speaker 1: not getting everything perfect. So we have to heal that
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Speaker 1: sort of inner achievement perfectionist in us, and I still am.
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Speaker 1: I'm still very much into high quality and try to
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Speaker 1: do everything the best that I can.
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Speaker 3: I don't beat myself up over it.
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Speaker 1: If it doesn't turn out perfect, I just go back
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Speaker 1: and refine it.
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Speaker 3: But in the beginning of our development.
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Speaker 1: It's so hard to let go of cultural achievement that
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Speaker 1: if we don't succeed right away, then something's wrong with us,
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Speaker 1: or we failed, or because of ruling and parenting.
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Speaker 3: You probably know that better than me, being a therapist.
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Speaker 2: But also being a very flawed human being. I'm totally
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Speaker 2: with you coaching people and even dealing with my own
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Speaker 2: self doubt for such a long time that was I
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Speaker 2: didn't think of it in the terms of perfectionism. That's
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Speaker 2: such a great way to look at it, because it's
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Speaker 2: not like a test. You can pass with an A
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Speaker 2: plus a long distance phone call, even though it feels
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Speaker 2: very close.
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Speaker 1: So it's true, we're trying to translate another language. Spirit
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Speaker 1: speaks in another language. They speak through symbols and through senses,
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Speaker 1: and we'd have to be really good translators without overinterpreting,
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Speaker 1: so we don't get everything perfect.
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Speaker 3: It just doesn't happen.
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Speaker 1: And there have been mediums doing this much longer than me,
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Speaker 1: like thirty years, and they're excellent, and they still afterwards
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Speaker 1: will be like, was that okay. They'll say that once
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Speaker 1: it's over, No one's there was that Okay. I wasn't
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Speaker 1: feeling my best that day. It just means we all care.
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Speaker 1: We're all just trying our best. We want to do
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Speaker 1: well for Spirit, we want to do well for the
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Speaker 1: person who's receiving the message, and that's a lot of pressure,
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Speaker 1: so we have to be careful with not too much pressure.
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Speaker 1: But there was that, okay. I think when I hear
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Speaker 1: that and like, that just means you care. That's a
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Speaker 1: good thing. That's a good way to look at it.
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Speaker 1: We'll have readings that hit the mark, and then you
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Speaker 1: have another that was felt like pulling teeth.
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Speaker 3: You just try your best. And keep moving forward.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, if there's any aspiring mediums, they'll be able
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Speaker 1: to hear this and give themselves some grace if one
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Speaker 1: of their readings doesn't go as well as they hoped
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Speaker 1: it would.
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Speaker 2: Or if all of them don't. At first, you have
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Speaker 2: to really work your way through all of that. Even
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Speaker 2: if you get a few pieces of great information for somebody,
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Speaker 2: and you get a lot of stuff that you have
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Speaker 2: no idea what it was, or you were nervous or
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Speaker 2: your brain started kicking in, it's still bringing a loved
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Speaker 2: one closer to them, So they would still be grateful.
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Speaker 1: For that that you tried. And there's no substitute for practice.
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Speaker 1: And do the self development because spirit will reward you
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Speaker 1: with your development. If you're willing to do the work
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Speaker 1: on yourself and do your own healing process or maturing
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Speaker 1: process or self development, that word too, and you will
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Speaker 1: get those little rewards.
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Speaker 3: You've reached this next phase. Here we go.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna unlock that door for you and now your
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Speaker 1: clairvoyance is going to be that much better.
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Speaker 3: Thank you.
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Speaker 2: I love that you brought that up. It's like we
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Speaker 2: earn a little bit more trust, given more ability, more depth,
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Speaker 2: more sensitivity. Yeah, it is a rewarding process to do
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Speaker 2: that and to trust yourself more. I'm finding that my
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Speaker 2: mediumship lately, things are getting even more subtle. I love
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Speaker 2: that I do, and I don't. In some ways, it's
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Speaker 2: a little bit scary. I check in when I get something,
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Speaker 2: but I'm finding that I'm getting even it's less information,
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Speaker 2: but I still feel it more so. It's like a
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Speaker 2: Cleare cognizance, but it's just as it's coming out of
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Speaker 2: my mouth. The claires are developing. But yeah, I don't
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Speaker 2: think I could have dealt with that a couple of
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Speaker 2: years ago. I think that would have just felt way
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Speaker 2: too uncertain and I would have been afraid to open
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Speaker 2: my mouth and say what I was getting.
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Speaker 1: That happened to me too, because I was in the
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Speaker 1: beginning primarily clairvoyant, and then I was working in a
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Speaker 1: much more clear, sentient way. And then when the Clare
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Speaker 1: cognizance kicked in, I was like, what do I do
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Speaker 1: with that? Because it was like it was a floating
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Speaker 1: in the air kind of thing.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 1: Once I figured out what was happening, then I understood
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Speaker 1: it and I started trusting it. So, yeah, those things
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Speaker 1: will happen and then they'll all start working together all
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Speaker 1: at once. To my heart hurts sometimes when I see
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Speaker 1: a message coming through a medium, and I'm fully supportive
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Speaker 1: of meetums, but when I see an message coming through
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Speaker 1: and the way that it's being transmitted to somebody, especially
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Speaker 1: if it's in a public demonstration, I'm like, that's not
17:31
Speaker 1: completely spirit. I can tell that some of your stuff
17:34
Speaker 1: that you're going through that's coming through you right now
17:37
Speaker 1: because of the way that you're saying it, and my
17:39
Speaker 1: heart just goes because I don't it's such responsibility. We
17:43
Speaker 1: have to uplift people, to give them healing and uplifting
17:47
Speaker 1: and not make them feel any worse too. So when
17:49
Speaker 1: we try to continue growing ourselves and being the best
17:53
Speaker 1: we can be, will be better mediums, more compassionate, more
17:55
Speaker 1: empathetic as well.
18:00
Speaker 2: So you do a list of things, sister, What is
18:03
Speaker 2: your spit right now? What is your favorite? What makes
18:05
Speaker 2: you the most excited to do?
18:08
Speaker 1: Honestly, I love everything that I do. It all lights
18:12
Speaker 1: me up, it all rewards me in different ways when
18:15
Speaker 1: I am connecting mediumistically, maybe even more when it's for
18:21
Speaker 1: a group in a public demonstration, just because they're multiple people,
18:25
Speaker 1: multiple spirits so the power is more amplified. And I
18:29
Speaker 1: also connect with the angelic frequency as well. So when
18:32
Speaker 1: that frequency is in play and I'm connecting with spirit
18:35
Speaker 1: and I'm delivering these loving messages to people, that's when
18:39
Speaker 1: I feel the most beautiful.
18:41
Speaker 3: The best way I can.
18:42
Speaker 1: Say it, I just feel like I'm in all of
18:44
Speaker 1: this beauty and it is me. It's like I'm this
18:47
Speaker 1: blossom and I'm more than Jennifer, and Jennifer is all
18:50
Speaker 1: kinds of amazing things. I love myself, but connecting with spirit, well,
18:54
Speaker 1: so it just brings me a sense of home. So
18:57
Speaker 1: I love writing, I love connecting with star beings in
19:00
Speaker 1: my channeling. I love teaching and seeing people grow and
19:03
Speaker 1: seeing them blossom as well too.
19:05
Speaker 3: It's all amazing and beautiful. But when I am connecting
19:08
Speaker 3: that way, it's another level.
19:10
Speaker 1: Of just pure beauty because the frequency is so high,
19:13
Speaker 1: the love is so amazing, and I'm just like wow.
19:16
Speaker 1: That's why I keep doing this, That's why I keep
19:17
Speaker 1: doing the hard work. I get busy with writing, I
19:20
Speaker 1: get busy with my shows that I work on and
19:22
Speaker 1: all my other responsibilities, and then I've just booked a
19:25
Speaker 1: public demonstration, and then I go on I'm with all
19:27
Speaker 1: of these lovely people and all these lovely spirits.
19:29
Speaker 3: Let's just like being home again. It is the best.
19:32
Speaker 2: It sounds like bliss.
19:34
Speaker 3: It does.
19:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what it feels like. It's like that for
19:37
Speaker 1: that little hour and a half. That's what it feels like.
19:39
Speaker 1: The most amazing things happen, the synchronicities, the way that
19:43
Speaker 1: the messages are all themed together, and you realize it's
19:47
Speaker 1: all been orchestrated. Everybody was guided to be there, the
19:51
Speaker 1: right spirits where they're the right messages were there. I
19:53
Speaker 1: wish that I could give a message to everybody, because
19:56
Speaker 1: you don't want to leave anybody going home set.
19:58
Speaker 3: I didn't get one.
19:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can imagine that would be a bit of
20:01
Speaker 2: an emotional burden you have to let go of each
20:03
Speaker 2: time because people are coming, they're hopeful.
20:07
Speaker 3: It's hard.
20:07
Speaker 1: I can feel it too, especially when it's within a group.
20:09
Speaker 1: I remind people it's like spirit really tries to maximize
20:14
Speaker 1: how many people they reach. So if I'm reading for
20:18
Speaker 1: somebody and I'm reading their mother and spirit, there could
20:21
Speaker 1: be four other people who are being like that sounds
20:23
Speaker 1: like my mom too, except for those couple of pieces
20:26
Speaker 1: that are not my mom. But that sounds like my mom,
20:28
Speaker 1: and I feel my mom. I wonder if that's my mom.
20:31
Speaker 1: That probably means their mom is in fact there, and
20:34
Speaker 1: they've purposely arranged the information that's coming through so that
20:37
Speaker 1: you're thinking of them and feeling their presence, and something
20:40
Speaker 1: in that message probably will resonate for them too. It's
20:43
Speaker 1: just the evidence won't be as much as it is.
20:46
Speaker 1: For the person who actually is receiving the message, they
20:49
Speaker 1: can take most or all of the evidence, whereas the
20:51
Speaker 1: other people there's some pieces they won't be able to take.
20:54
Speaker 1: And then sometimes you get those piggybacks where two spirits
20:57
Speaker 1: coming in tandem. That happens too. But if you hear
20:59
Speaker 1: something somebody else's message that perked your ear or touched
21:02
Speaker 1: your heart, it's probably meant for you to hear too.
21:05
Speaker 1: So they're very generous. Spirit is not stingy. They're very
21:08
Speaker 1: generous with healing. So just ask give me healing all
21:11
Speaker 1: of it. Don't say, please, could you just heal this
21:13
Speaker 1: little cut.
21:14
Speaker 3: I don't want to ask for too much to ask
21:16
Speaker 3: for all of it. Just ask. They'll do whatever they
21:19
Speaker 3: can for you. We deserve it. We're human and we're
21:21
Speaker 3: doing the human thing. It's easier than being on the
21:24
Speaker 3: spirit world. We're doing the hard So what kind of
21:28
Speaker 3: stuff do you write? I write a lot of spiritual poetry,
21:32
Speaker 3: so that's.
21:33
Speaker 1: Mostly channeled, and then I have been starting some writing
21:37
Speaker 1: for some other publications talking about mediumship and different things too.
21:40
Speaker 1: That's newer, but I'm enjoying getting that part out there too.
21:43
Speaker 1: It's easier for me to channel because I go into
21:46
Speaker 1: that space and the words come out, or they come
21:48
Speaker 1: write out my finger tips. When I have to do
21:50
Speaker 1: pieces that are a little more me and they're that
21:52
Speaker 1: have to slow down.
21:53
Speaker 3: I'm working with two different parts. I'm working with my
21:55
Speaker 3: higher self and the spirit.
21:57
Speaker 1: World and then my own mind and tandem together to
22:00
Speaker 1: this come out this way. So it's more Jennifers in
22:03
Speaker 1: those writings too. That's good too because I like that
22:06
Speaker 1: as well, like allowing that part of me to also
22:08
Speaker 1: have an expression too. So but even with my channel's poetry,
22:12
Speaker 1: it's like I always say it's spirit, but it's me
22:14
Speaker 1: too because.
22:15
Speaker 3: I'm part of the process.
22:16
Speaker 1: So I never completely be like, oh I did nothing,
22:19
Speaker 1: it's all spirit. I want to give myself a little
22:21
Speaker 1: credit because I'm part of that process. I'm the channel,
22:24
Speaker 1: and I'm also spirit too, so we have to remember
22:27
Speaker 1: we're spirit too. It's not like we're just a personality
22:30
Speaker 1: and they're the spirit world and let's put them on
22:31
Speaker 1: a pedestal. We are spirit too, so we can honor
22:35
Speaker 1: our own spirit as part of the process.
22:39
Speaker 2: I love that you're part of this and part of
22:42
Speaker 2: the equation. But I like how you said that when
22:44
Speaker 2: you channel, it's a very different process, including yourself, your
22:47
Speaker 2: whole self. Also, that's a whole other way of writing.
22:51
Speaker 3: I really enjoy it too. It's fun.
22:53
Speaker 1: My style is very poetic, and the spirit world is
22:55
Speaker 1: that way too. The rhymes and riddles and things like that,
22:58
Speaker 1: and that comes through. I know what I'm connecting to,
23:01
Speaker 1: and that's fun, a really fun frequency to work with
23:04
Speaker 1: and elementals like the fairy energy. It's super magical, very whimsical,
23:09
Speaker 1: very elevating. I have a couple of friends that we
23:12
Speaker 1: co host to show together doing those kinds of readings.
23:14
Speaker 1: People love it because they need the elevation, They need
23:18
Speaker 1: to be part of the magic and the wonder and
23:20
Speaker 1: the ag and that's a very fun frequency. I would
23:22
Speaker 1: recommend people to tune in to just go out in
23:24
Speaker 1: your garden and say, fairies.
23:26
Speaker 3: Are you out there?
23:27
Speaker 1: Talk to me, let me feel you or something and
23:29
Speaker 1: feel like the delight, because that's needed right now. That's
23:33
Speaker 1: a very high frequency that people need to be reminded
23:37
Speaker 1: of their imagination of magic, of wonder, of awe, and
23:41
Speaker 1: it's a very beautiful and fun and play. So we
23:44
Speaker 1: need to play to to keep things in harmony with
23:47
Speaker 1: the seriousness of our planet right now.
23:51
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, And very different than just going out
23:53
Speaker 2: into nature. You're talking about calling in energies, welcoming the
23:57
Speaker 2: connection with them. Very different than just ground yourself into
24:01
Speaker 2: the earth or being among the trees. Very different.
24:04
Speaker 1: That's a beautiful energy because it has a substance to it,
24:07
Speaker 1: and our bodies a chemical and electric right, we have
24:12
Speaker 1: that too, So grounding is really positive, especially for us
24:15
Speaker 1: spiritual folks because we're pray spacey. We like to go
24:19
Speaker 1: off in and neverland, so we need to be embodied
24:22
Speaker 1: to fully fulfill our mission here of what our soul
24:25
Speaker 1: is wanting to accomplish through us for humanity too. That's
24:29
Speaker 1: very important. But this elemental magical energy, it's very fine.
24:33
Speaker 1: It brings in laughter and giggles, in a little naughtiness
24:36
Speaker 1: and we need that too, because we've been taught to conform,
24:39
Speaker 1: and so we need to be a little bit like
24:41
Speaker 1: it's okay to not care about what everybody thinks about
24:44
Speaker 1: you all the time and do it exactly the way
24:47
Speaker 1: the world is taught you should be, because that's not
24:49
Speaker 1: you either. We have to find out who are we
24:52
Speaker 1: before everybody told us we were supposed to be a
24:55
Speaker 1: certain way to be considered valuable or worthy to be
25:00
Speaker 1: cared about. Even that's a big hero's journey to know
25:03
Speaker 1: who you are and flame that and if people don't
25:06
Speaker 1: like that, I don't mean to do things out harm
25:08
Speaker 1: anybody else. Just be authentic to who you are, and
25:11
Speaker 1: if it doesn't match somebody else's version, it's okay, keep
25:15
Speaker 1: being you. People end up being more attracted to that
25:19
Speaker 1: than they are to somebody who's blindly following all of
25:21
Speaker 1: the rules and trying to be good all the time. Right,
25:24
Speaker 1: So the fairies invite you to step a little bit
25:27
Speaker 1: out of the box that we've all kind of carved it. Breto,
25:31
Speaker 1: we're all a little kicking out of the box.
25:33
Speaker 3: Can we come out with.
25:35
Speaker 2: I appreciate what you're saying. We really feel the resonance.
25:38
Speaker 2: When we're around certain people who really have achieved a
25:43
Speaker 2: level of authenticity, and you really feel it. When they haven't,
25:49
Speaker 2: it's a very different energy. I'm trying to be a
25:51
Speaker 2: little bit less judgmental, but I find myself using that
25:55
Speaker 2: filter in a lot of places. But I think part
25:57
Speaker 2: of it is that there are things that people want
25:59
Speaker 2: you to be curious about them, and I just can't
26:03
Speaker 2: do that. I just can't. It just feels so egoic
26:07
Speaker 2: and like recognizing an identity they're trying to carve that
26:12
Speaker 2: isn't who they really are. And I just don't want
26:14
Speaker 2: to relate to people that way. Even if somebody is
26:18
Speaker 2: a lot more grouchy than the rest of us think
26:20
Speaker 2: is acceptable, but they're really just themselves. I would so
26:24
Speaker 2: rather be around that.
26:25
Speaker 1: Person because they're not performing from what they really are.
26:29
Speaker 1: I get that. I can see what's going on in
26:31
Speaker 1: the background of people's egos sometimes too. And I use
26:34
Speaker 1: that word very carefully because that word has become a
26:37
Speaker 1: baddie giving me to go away. You need to be
26:39
Speaker 1: like killed off and wiped away. That's not self love
26:42
Speaker 1: to me. So I use that word very gently, but
26:44
Speaker 1: I am aware of the harm that an unhealed and
26:47
Speaker 1: unintegrated ego can do in the world too. But I
26:51
Speaker 1: can see what's playing out in the background, because I
26:54
Speaker 1: am curious about how we work and why we do that,
26:57
Speaker 1: and the different costumes that we wear as we're.
26:59
Speaker 3: Out out in the world.
27:01
Speaker 1: I watch my own, but I can see what's playing
27:02
Speaker 1: on other people's things too, I know. And the hard
27:06
Speaker 1: part about that is it can sometimes get a little
27:09
Speaker 1: bit lonely because people don't always know what they're doing,
27:13
Speaker 1: and we all get in it. We all have our
27:15
Speaker 1: things where we're moving through something and we're immersed in
27:19
Speaker 1: that story for that period of time and we can't
27:22
Speaker 1: really pull ourselves out until the energy works its way out.
27:25
Speaker 3: So we all do that.
27:26
Speaker 1: But sometimes you realize what's playing out and there's not
27:30
Speaker 1: much you can do about it because that you see
27:33
Speaker 1: it and they can't. And so then it feels a
27:35
Speaker 1: little bit lonely because you're like, you're in the game,
27:39
Speaker 1: but you can't change the way somebody else is playing
27:41
Speaker 1: in the game, other than to try not to get
27:44
Speaker 1: hooked into it.
27:45
Speaker 2: That makes so much sense, and as empathic people, we
27:48
Speaker 2: have to take seriously who we spend time and energy around.
27:51
Speaker 2: Because that's what's impacting us, and we're impacting them. And
27:55
Speaker 2: I want to be around people where I don't feel
27:57
Speaker 2: like I have to work hard to connect or to
28:01
Speaker 2: be okay with them or patient with them, because they're
28:03
Speaker 2: just in such a different mindset. I don't mean like
28:06
Speaker 2: a kid, but like another adult that I would be
28:08
Speaker 2: friends with. A lot of my friends are mediums or
28:11
Speaker 2: spiritual people, and that's just easy. It's when you're not
28:13
Speaker 2: that way that it gets to them.
28:15
Speaker 1: It's a little more challenging. Yeah, they think very differently
28:18
Speaker 1: sometimes than us. Our belief systems are a little bit
28:20
Speaker 1: different too, so that makes it hard to relate. And
28:23
Speaker 1: it's no one's fault where they are in their journey,
28:26
Speaker 1: but they're just not as conscious of their reality that
28:31
Speaker 1: they're in. They're just fully immersed in being the story.
28:34
Speaker 1: You and I go back and forth. We go in it,
28:36
Speaker 1: way go out of it. We're trying to be consciously
28:39
Speaker 1: aware that we are in it so that we have
28:41
Speaker 1: some agency and can make the biggest impact, and we
28:44
Speaker 1: keep practicing that every day. But they're fully in it
28:46
Speaker 1: and they don't know it too. Hopefully we can just
28:50
Speaker 1: by modeling help them to see not that they need
28:56
Speaker 1: to be different, but to see that there might be
28:58
Speaker 1: an alternative. So what is that person doing that makes
29:03
Speaker 1: their energy feel this way? What could I do to
29:06
Speaker 1: potentially feel this energy in myself? That little spark or
29:10
Speaker 1: even if it's a midlife crisis, is this all there is?
29:14
Speaker 1: Is there anything more that happens to people in their
29:16
Speaker 1: forties and fifties, right? Just spark a little bit of
29:20
Speaker 1: what else? What is that? That could be the trigger
29:23
Speaker 1: that is needed because the more people that can start
29:26
Speaker 1: to awaken to a conscious version of themselves, you're going
29:29
Speaker 1: to see a lot less of this violence and duality
29:32
Speaker 1: playing out right now as we see in the world.
29:34
Speaker 1: So we need mass awakening. I do believe that it's happening,
29:38
Speaker 1: but I'm saying that we need it if we really
29:40
Speaker 1: want to create a more harmonious, peaceful world that doesn't
29:44
Speaker 1: have all of these problems, We've got to become more
29:47
Speaker 1: consciously aware and get ourselves out of a sleep. And
29:51
Speaker 1: it's not about judgment. It's about evolution and survivable And.
29:56
Speaker 2: I like how you said that. I sometimes think of
29:58
Speaker 2: it like I've got one foot here and one foot there.
30:02
Speaker 2: It is going back and forth. So are you currently teaching.
30:06
Speaker 1: Yes, I teach Mediumship development circles, and I have workshops
30:10
Speaker 1: I do occasionally when I can fit them in my schedule,
30:13
Speaker 1: like weekend workshops. I do a Mediumship Essentials workshop, usually
30:17
Speaker 1: over a weekend, sometimes over weekday nights, depending on the schedule.
30:21
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean go put a sign on your wall
30:23
Speaker 1: because you've taken a workshop. That doesn't mean you're ready
30:26
Speaker 1: to go say okay, open for a business. It means
30:29
Speaker 1: you've gotten the foundation and now the practice comes. But
30:32
Speaker 1: it gives people a foundation. I teach trans healing as
30:35
Speaker 1: well occasionally, and a few other things too. I do
30:39
Speaker 1: really enjoy it a lot too. I love watching people
30:41
Speaker 1: grow and blossom and a lot of healing happens. You
30:44
Speaker 1: think you're going just to become a better medium, but
30:46
Speaker 1: because the students are all reading for each other, a
30:49
Speaker 1: lot of healing happens. You're getting messages and you're connecting
30:53
Speaker 1: with your loved ones. So that's been beautiful too. I
30:56
Speaker 1: one student in particular, and he's very open about this,
30:59
Speaker 1: he came into Cloud and he was resistant to connecting
31:02
Speaker 1: with certain loved ones because of how they had behaved.
31:05
Speaker 1: And he laughs about it now, but so much healing
31:08
Speaker 1: has happened throughout the years doing development circles that he
31:12
Speaker 1: is in such a better place he welcomes them anytime
31:17
Speaker 1: to come and.
31:17
Speaker 3: Give a message. So that's priceless, and there's a lot
31:19
Speaker 3: of gifts. We have a high cost to do this work.
31:22
Speaker 1: It demands so much responsibility of us, so much work
31:26
Speaker 1: we have to do, and we're doing it for our.
31:29
Speaker 3: Soul and for a spirit world.
31:30
Speaker 1: And our lives will dramatically change, even our physical reality.
31:34
Speaker 3: Lives will dramatically change.
31:36
Speaker 1: Relationships will change, families will change, where you live. All
31:39
Speaker 1: of this changes. Your economics can change too, And it's
31:42
Speaker 1: like why it's so hard, I don't know. But there
31:45
Speaker 1: are many gifts that come with it too, of your
31:49
Speaker 1: own healing process and having our mediumistic abilities, our psychic awareness.
31:54
Speaker 1: It's really fun. It is really fun to be psychic
31:57
Speaker 1: and to have the connection to the other world that
32:01
Speaker 1: is right here next to us. It's there all the time,
32:03
Speaker 1: and we know it and we're connected to it. So
32:06
Speaker 1: we get to play and dance in that energy too,
32:09
Speaker 1: and it's fun. Your friends and you pick up on
32:11
Speaker 1: something and you go, oh that, and they go, oh, yeah,
32:13
Speaker 1: I just did that. An hour ago, and we always joke, oh,
32:16
Speaker 1: we must be psychic.
32:18
Speaker 3: It's our little corny joke.
32:19
Speaker 1: We are.
32:20
Speaker 3: It's super magical. So it definitely comes with it's a
32:23
Speaker 3: gift too.
32:23
Speaker 1: I've gotten to meet so many beautiful, wonderful people around
32:26
Speaker 1: the world. I'm very grateful for all of those blessings,
32:30
Speaker 1: and so it's a lot of hard stuff, a lot
32:32
Speaker 1: of blessings.
32:34
Speaker 3: That's being a medium, good.
32:36
Speaker 2: Way to put it. Think about a lot of other
32:38
Speaker 2: professions where there's so much training and precision that goes
32:42
Speaker 2: into the work that you do, and this is very
32:44
Speaker 2: much that way. Continuing to train. I'm always in courses.
32:48
Speaker 2: I think I'm in three right now. I really believe
32:51
Speaker 2: in continuing to grow personally professionally. We owe it to
32:54
Speaker 2: ourselves and I agree, But it really does change your life,
32:57
Speaker 2: your experience of life. Just feel so much more connection
33:02
Speaker 2: and love and the beauty of life and relationships. I
33:06
Speaker 2: have my own little testimonial of my sister passing about
33:09
Speaker 2: a year and a half ago, and we hadn't spoken
33:11
Speaker 2: in eleven years. That was just what it was. And
33:15
Speaker 2: now a few weeks ago, I had a friend visiting
33:18
Speaker 2: and she and my husband were talking about my sister.
33:20
Speaker 2: And he was like, oh, yeah, about my sister, And
33:22
Speaker 2: I was like, are you talking about my sister? Like
33:24
Speaker 2: our relationship is so different. I'm defending her. You don't
33:27
Speaker 2: even know her now. She and I have mended our
33:29
Speaker 2: relationships so much and we have positive interactions. I don't
33:33
Speaker 2: drive a whole lot, but when I do and there's
33:35
Speaker 2: some good eighties music on and I turn it up,
33:37
Speaker 2: I know she's sitting next to me, singing with me,
33:39
Speaker 2: just like we would have on a good day. And
33:42
Speaker 2: there's nothing like it.
33:43
Speaker 1: Because you lose the shadow elements of the personality, those
33:46
Speaker 1: get basically healed away when you go back into your
33:49
Speaker 1: full awareness or consciousness. She's still your sister. The essence
33:53
Speaker 1: that is your sister is still her. It's just a
33:55
Speaker 1: very whole and healed, beautiful, powerful version she is now.
34:00
Speaker 1: It's all of her now. And I love sometimes when
34:04
Speaker 1: I'm connecting with spirit person and they kind of shape
34:06
Speaker 1: shift because they're showing me as they were when they
34:08
Speaker 1: were in the physical, and then they turn into this
34:11
Speaker 1: big glowing light and that's as they are and it's.
34:14
Speaker 3: Ooh, that's so cool. And even spirits who.
34:17
Speaker 1: Were like really a bit naughty and bad when they
34:19
Speaker 1: were here, like.
34:23
Speaker 3: They're in their full glowing lights. Yeah, they're in their
34:25
Speaker 3: full glowing light. They're does not like that now.
34:27
Speaker 1: And they also have no problem saying they're sorry, taking responsibility,
34:31
Speaker 1: saying yep, I did that, I'm sorry. See how it
34:34
Speaker 1: affected you. They can see it all of how it's
34:37
Speaker 1: affected you. But there's always compassion because they didn't get
34:40
Speaker 1: to do those harmful things without things happening to them
34:43
Speaker 1: as well. So there's tremendous compassion that goes around the
34:46
Speaker 1: life review.
34:47
Speaker 2: I like life.
34:48
Speaker 3: We can do that here.
34:49
Speaker 1: We can model after them, be less afraid to say sorry,
34:52
Speaker 1: be less afraid to take responsibility, and review our own
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Speaker 1: life with compassion. It's a brave thing to do.
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Speaker 2: My understanding, especially after reconciling with my sister, is that
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Speaker 2: us having this situation while at least one of us
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Speaker 2: is still here, is ending some of the karmic ties
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Speaker 2: that we had for reliving some of the cycles that
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Speaker 2: we had been stuck in. So I'm encouraging people to
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Speaker 2: resolve things while you're still here and the other person
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Speaker 2: is still here if you can, but even if you can't,
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Speaker 2: to really recognize they are different, they really are different,
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Speaker 2: even if they haven't been gone long that had a
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Speaker 2: parent come in just a few days after they crossed
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Speaker 2: and oh my goodness, I haven't cried that hard. How sorry,
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Speaker 2: how they treated their daughter and they're telling their daughter
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Speaker 2: over zoom. It was intense, it was beautiful, and yes
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Speaker 2: they come through with apologies and a reality check of oh, no,
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Speaker 2: you're right, I really was that way. I wasn't thinking
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Speaker 2: about this, and I really am sorry. I get it
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Speaker 2: now and I'm really trying to do better.
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Speaker 3: Tremendously healing for everybody.
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Speaker 1: That's a gift of being a medium, knowing that you're
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Speaker 1: part of that healing process because those people they need
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Speaker 1: to hear it too. A lot of people were waiting
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Speaker 1: until the person's deathbed to hear that I'm sorry, and
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Speaker 1: they didn't get the I'm sorry. Then finally they get
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Speaker 1: it through a medium. Thank god, right, because it's very
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Speaker 1: healing when someone says I see that, I see you,
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Speaker 1: I see that, and doesn't make excuses. They might paint
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Speaker 1: a picture of giving us understanding of why and how
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Speaker 1: they got that way. They were abused too when they
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Speaker 1: were younger, and this is a cycle that goes down
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Speaker 1: the ancestory line and things like that too, but they
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Speaker 1: don't use that as an excuse, if that makes sense.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, really get that. They don't justify their behavior.
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Speaker 3: They give understanding.
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Speaker 1: Because even if we're ready to hear the apology, we
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Speaker 1: may not be ready for the full understanding of it.
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Speaker 1: It depends on the person and what they're ready to receive,
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Speaker 1: so they may be better to get more understanding later
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Speaker 1: down the road. Are metabolizing the apology part.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, which would probably be very unexpected. And this is
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Speaker 2: a great plug for developing your own mediumship skills to
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Speaker 2: support other people but also to support yourself.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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Speaker 2: Then you get to hang out with those in spirit
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Speaker 2: in in a way that you're actually aware of it
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Speaker 2: and can appreciate feeling the love and the companionship riceless.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, anybody can be a medium. It's just not everybody's
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Speaker 1: meant to do it as a profession. But anybody can
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Speaker 1: develop their mediumistic connection because we are all spirit. We
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Speaker 1: never stopp being spirit just because we're in this human reality,
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Speaker 1: and so it's just a matter of opening up to
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Speaker 1: it and doing some practice, be willing to put some
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Speaker 1: time into allowing those parts to develop and enhance their sensation.
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Speaker 1: You don't have to develop to the point where you
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Speaker 1: and I would because we're working professionally, we have immense responsibility,
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Speaker 1: but just enough that you can feel them around and
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Speaker 1: you can understand that they're there and that they're giving
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Speaker 1: you signs and symbols and synchronicities, and that's pretty darn magical.
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Speaker 2: And they can bring their sense of humor and their personality.
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Speaker 2: So my husband and I were having this conversation about
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Speaker 2: my sister and he has New Zealand an accent. He
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Speaker 2: says something about her karma, but he says it. He says,
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Speaker 2: she was so unsupportive when she was here. I'm like,
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Speaker 2: I'm not a disagreeing my sister's not disagreeing. And as
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Speaker 2: I leave his office and go around the corner, I
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Speaker 2: start hearing my sister. She goes come, and I hear it, come, Comelia.
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Speaker 2: Because she's give me a reference, which is perfect. I
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Speaker 2: couldn't help but laugh, and I felt bad that I'm
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Speaker 2: laughing at my husband with my sister, which would have
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Speaker 2: been such a sisterly thing to do. But truly a
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Speaker 2: magical experience to be able to connected with your loved
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Speaker 2: ones on the other side in a joyful way.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they absolutely do have a sense of humor.
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Speaker 1: They do not take things as seriously as we do
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Speaker 1: because they see the bigger picture of it, and by
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Speaker 1: having a sense of humor, it raises the frequency.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm an eighties music lover too, so I
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Speaker 3: love it when they bring me music as symbols and
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Speaker 3: messages too.
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Speaker 1: And a lot of times in my readings when things
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Speaker 1: get heavy all of us and they'll go into a
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Speaker 1: happy memory or they'll make a joke or something like that,
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Speaker 1: I explain to them they're trying to harmonize or balance
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Speaker 1: out the frequency because they don't want to get you
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Speaker 1: too low and keep you there for too long. So
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Speaker 1: then we'll jump and all of a sudden, now we're
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Speaker 1: going too this happy childhood memory. Because it's just they're
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Speaker 1: being very careful to level out the experience of the
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Speaker 1: person that's receding it too, and they don't want to
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Speaker 1: re traumatize anybody too.
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Speaker 3: So it's so delicate.
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Speaker 1: That's why the responsibility comes in so delicate to bring
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Speaker 1: through the apologies in a way that you're not overdoing
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Speaker 1: the evidence. That's where we can get too evidential. So
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Speaker 1: if someone's been murdered. You're not going to talk about
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Speaker 1: all the blood and guts that were all over the street.
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Speaker 1: You're going to just be like, I can tell their
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Speaker 1: life was taken and this weapon was involved and it
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Speaker 1: was a sudden passing as as much as you got
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Speaker 1: to do, because otherwise, why wouldn't we do that unless
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Speaker 1: they really wanted to know. Yeah, so we're not showing off.
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Speaker 1: Mediums are to show off.
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Speaker 3: We're there to heal and help and to remind.
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Speaker 2: So for anybody who's listening, if you're interested in getting
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Speaker 2: a mediumship, reading, learning about trance, healing, trans channeling, or
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Speaker 2: learning how to be a medium yourself. Jennifer Rose and
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Speaker 2: how can people reach you?
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I've really enjoyed this conversation. You're lovely,
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Speaker 3: so I resonate with you so well. So thank you
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Speaker 3: for this time.
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Speaker 1: I'm very grateful and honored that we were brought together
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Speaker 1: to people can find me a medium Jennifer Rose and
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Speaker 3: That's all there need to click on it. From there,
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Speaker 3: it's easier to just go to my site. Thank you
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Speaker 3: for that.
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Speaker 2: I just want to say that part of learning mediumship
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Speaker 2: or intuition or psychic skills, it feels really important to
40:49
Speaker 2: be able to feel a genuine heart connection with the
40:51
Speaker 2: person that they're learning from, because it is such a
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Speaker 2: deeply held, deeply felt, and sometimes deeply feared thing to
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Speaker 2: step into. And myperience with you, Jennifer is that you
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Speaker 2: are nothing but authentic and clear and clean and sweet,
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Speaker 2: and it's been wonderful spending time with you, and I
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Speaker 2: would highly recommend anybody who's looking into any of these
41:11
Speaker 2: things to connect with Jennifer and see if working with
41:14
Speaker 2: her feels right to you. I wish you best in
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Speaker 2: your journey. Thank you so much for spending this time
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