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Episode 391 - I've Got a Secret! · TechtalkRadio

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The following program is produced by the Tech Talk Radio Network. Hey this comedian
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Kathleen Meddigan, and you're listening to tech Talk Radio. Who is something I
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will never be listening to because I hate technology. But for those of you,
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the two vise are your guys. Welcome to another episode of tech Talk
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Radio. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Sean de Weird, and I'm Justin Lemmey.
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Welcome. It's good to have us all back here. Bett is out
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fixing an aquarium and corralling some cats and I'm surprised. I'm awake. Yes,
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we are too. Okay, speaking of that, Yeah, I had
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an elephant in the room. That's a pretty big elephant to the big elephant.
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If you notice the name of this week's show is I've Got a Secret.
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Yeah, yeah, a secret that Sean swears people everybody. Now,
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let's let's fill our listeners. In last week we did a best of because
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we were all kind of busy with work and life and everything and including Sean,
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and Sean texting me. He was like, hey, uh, can
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you call me real quick? And I was like, yeah, sure,
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I'll call you. So I called Sean and he's like, I'm gonna feel
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like a really bad friend for saying this, And I'm like, uh,
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oh, we did I do something wrong? Like, are you gonna?
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I was? I was seriously for a moment, I was wondering if Sean
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was the guy that you guys picked to say that you're no longer welcome on
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tech talk radio. Oh, Like I thought maybe Sean was gonna be that
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guy. Oh no, you know, because he's my friend. Yeah.
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Let me let me ask you. How long have you guys been friends?
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Uh, twenty eleven, twenty two, When did you started fucking? Twenty
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twelve, twenty twelve? All right? Was it twenty twelve? Okay,
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twenty twelve. Yeah, that's when he met. And it was funny.
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The first time I met Sean is he walks into our engineering department and just
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starts rifling through all of our tools. And we have this rule that we
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don't allow photographers to rifle through our tools. I could see because they never
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bring them back. Yeah, and Sean, I'm like, Hi, who
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are you? And he's like, oh, I'm Sean. I just need
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something more quick. I'm like, uh yeah, that's kind of ours and
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he's like, don't worry, I'll bring about back, and sure enough he
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brought it back and I'm like, okay, you're good, you know.
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Yeah. Anyway, so I called Sean and he's like, I'm feeling like
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a bad friend here, and I'm like, why, what's going on?
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What's what's happening. He goes, well, Caitlin's pregnant, and again Kaitlyn
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is Sean's wife. And I was like, oh my god, that's awesome.
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That's that's awesome. That's so I'm so happy for you. Why do
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you why do you feel like a bad friend? When does the baby do?
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Uh tomorrow? I'm like, wait, what this really happened? This
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really happened. I swear on my parents, my grandpa, whatever, I
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swear on everything holy to me that we had this conversation and we did a
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segment about Kitlen Big pregnant. It's like we did with Max. Well ago,
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no, you did that with Max. You did not do that with
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your second baby. No, this is a This was a complete shock that.
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It was like, okay, so yeah, when's it. We have
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the same reaction, you know, oh, this is awesome. When did
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when'd your baby do? What the heck, dude, baby is due tomorrow?
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We did we did. We did eight months of shows together, ay,
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and an eight month You never once thought that maybe I should tell them?
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Yeah, so that's I don't know what happened there. When it comes
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to number three, you better tell us. Yeah. Yeah, Well I
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don't have to remind you of their birthday because it won't happen for another four
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years. Yeah. So you actually right, you had a leap your baby
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which number one. Congratulations to you both, right, that's awesome. So
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so Daniel Daniel James Duird was born seven to fifty PM on February twenty ninth,
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twenty twenty four. Wow, so amazing. So I sent him the
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meme from Titanic with the old lady at the very end of the movie saying
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it's been eighty four years. And if you do the math, the meme
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works out. The meme says, when somebody born on leap year gets to
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finally drink legally, Oh wow, is it really well? Think about it?
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Every four years, yeah, twenty one years old. Every four years
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means you're eighty five, eighty four, whatever it works, It's been eighty
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four years, you know what. I What I thought was so weird about
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leap here too, not to get away from that is, you know,
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people on Facebook memories, they you know, I always every day I take
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a look what was going on last year or the year before or whatnot.
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People had they couldn't see what was going on last year because well there was
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no day last year. They have to go back four years in four year
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increments. So as as society progresses and they use services like that, leap
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here is always going to be different for the little one. Let me let
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me ask you Sean a quick question. When you've found out that you guys
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were pregnant, did the doctor tell you that there's a chance, but just
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a baby? So the do date was March twelfth, but that would have
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been forty weeks, right, Okay, So just because the way Caylen had
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been progressing on her last oh be appointment, they said, well, I
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think we're good at thirty eight weeks, which is technically considered a full term.
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He's like, we can induce in thirty eight weeks was the twenty ninth?
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Oh wow? Wow? They won't. Most hospitals won't take inductions pre
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thirty eight weeks. So he just said, you know what, it's time.
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The baby's really big. So if I think it'll work out. Her
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last ob be appointment, he said, you're pretty much progressing already, so
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let's just get it under way. We went into the hospital Wednesday, the
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twenty eighth at seven pm, and overnight they moved her into the labor delivery
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room, and then things progressed throughout the day, and then around six thirty
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she's like, this baby's coming, oh wowow. And then you know,
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the our doctor was in surgery doing surgery on other patients, so he's like,
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just hold off if you can for half an hour. Tell her that.
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Yeah. So she did as long as she could, and about seven
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thirty the doctor came up and at seven fifty Daniel was born. So we
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didn't know if it was going to be a boy or a girl. So
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a funny story about the girl name that we'd picked. Calen's sister had a
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baby on the twenty and the twelfth of February, so just about just over
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two weeks ago. They named her baby Caroline Ann. Wow. All right.
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Our girl name was Caroline Geene. Oh wow. So then when we
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talked to them after Daniel was born, we just kind of, you know,
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hey, it's kind of funny that you know, we picked Caroline,
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and you guys named your baby Caroline, Like, well, if it would
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have been a boy, we would have named it Daniel. What really,
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so we did not share this between family groups. You don't share anything.
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We have found out the fact that, yeah, exactly, yeah, we
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don't. But the fact that they had picked the same boy and girl name
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for their second as we did is just I don't know if I'm not.
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It's really crazy because it's like we thought it was funny that they picked Caroline
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and then we picked Daniel, and then they're like, well, it's funny
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because you picked Daniel, but Caro, I would have been a boy,
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it would have been Daniel. Well, you know, somewhat of a similar
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situation. When I was born my parents, my parents picked for me for
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the boy was obviously Justin, which is my name, But for for a
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girl they picked Sarah. And my mom's sister had a baby and they were
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gonna pick Dustin for the boy and Sarah for the girl and ended up being
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a girl. So I have a cousin named Sarah. Yeah, so I
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would have been a Sarah if I a girl, right, And Sarah would
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have been a Dustin if she was a boy. Wow, that is a
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trip. And to touch back on the leap yer portion of it, Caleb's
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cousin does have a son who was also a leap baby, so he called
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us. He's like, he's twelve maybe exp whatever that turn of three three,
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and she was very excited to have a family member who could share his
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birthday with it. Let me ask you this then. Okay, so this
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begs the question, when are you going to celebrate his birthday Daniel's birthday.
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Are you going to celebrate on February twenty eighth or are you going to celebrate
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on March first? Great question? Yeah, are you going to celebrate kind
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of like a small birthday on those days? But then every four years you're
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going to throw a massive birthday. It's going to be hard with another child
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also, who how do you make them feel as special, if not special,
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on their birthday when you're gonna throw a big party for somebody every four
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year, like every four years, there's going to be this big thing surrounding.
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Yeah, that's true, that's true. It's kind of hard. It's
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kind of hard to think about that. I would like to think that we
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would do it the twenty eighth and March first kind of like do a duel,
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like a two days. Well then well hold on then then maxill be
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like, yo, this this guy gets a double birthday and I get a
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single you know, yeah, I know. We used to do We used
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to do this with our girls because they were they were a year and ten
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months apart, so Scarlet and Destiny we would do an unbirthday, so you
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have one celebrates a birthday, the other celebrates an unbirthday, and the same
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thing for the other one. So it always worked out that way, So
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there was they always felt like they were a part of it. It kind
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of always made it made it feel okay. You know. That was something
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from Alice in Wonderland. Luckily we didn't have to do that with the kids
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that were older, just the ones that were they were so close and so
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young. It just made them feel okay good, you know, once they
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got to it certain age. But I never thought of the conundrum of celebrating
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a birthday when there is no leap day, you know, for that that
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year, Like wow, I never even thought about that. Yeah, well,
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yeah, you got it. How does that How does that complicate things?
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Right? Like, how does that complicate things? For driver's licenses and
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others other things that have birthdays on them. Yeah. You know, say
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he turns twenty one on his twenty first birthday, his what is his twenty
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first birthday? Oh that's right. Well once ITAs he won't be there won't
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be a twenty night birthday. He'd be like five and a half, but
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there would be a twenty night on his birthday. It's like the conundra where
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you take a two dollars US two dollar bill and you go to try and
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buy something with it. People that don't know that a two dollars bill is
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real, right, Oh yeah, they're going to say, well this is
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are going to say this is a fake ID. I got my driver's license
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the day I turned sixteen. So yeah, I like, when when is
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he going to be able to get that? You know? Again, that's
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wow. I want to tell you guys a funny story that happened to me
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on the eve of my twenty first birthday. Oh really, I was you
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know, I was living in Tucson. I was up in Oral Valley and
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I went to the Fries supermarket. I think Fries is still there in Tucson,
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right, yeah, they got it? Okay, Okay, yeah.
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Well, yeah, I haven't been there in years. So anyway, I
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went to the Fries and at the time, you know, they sold alcohol,
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they sold they had an entire alcohol aisle with spirits, beer, wine,
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everything, right, So it was like eleven thirty at night and I
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walk into Fries and I start perusing the alcohol aisle, yeah, because I've
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got thirty minutes to kill before i can legally buy alcohol. And they start
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watching me like a hawk because they think I'm gonna They think I'm gonna do
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a run, right, I'm gonna look like a kid at that age.
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Well yeah, I remember, it looked like a kid. Yeah, what
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are you talking about? But anyway, so I'm like I'm perusing. I
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got my little basket, and in your basket, you've got, at your
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legal age coming soon, all the spirits you want to try out. And
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then I turned around to start walking towards the cash register, and there's like
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three employees kind of like standing in my way of the front door, and
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I'm like, no worries, guys, I'm here to buy, you know,
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like, don't worry about it. I walk over the cash register,
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I set and there's nobody in the store besides me. I put my beer
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down on the little conveyor belt. The conveyor belt starts shifting. The lady
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starts to grab it, and I go, hold on a second, and
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she's like what what what? I go just wait and I look at my
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watch. Five four three two one, Okay, now you can ring it
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up. She's like, wait what And I give her my ID and she's
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like, oh my god, happy birthday and she scanned it and the little
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the little cash register actually played happy Birthday. No it didn't. There's like
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it was like like an eight bit song, you know, like ait,
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it was like and I got the cash out and my liquor. That is
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awesome things we remember. All right, we have listener question. We're gonna
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pose the question right now. We'll come back, we'll we'll give you the
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answer to what we think about. This came from Mark in Tucson. Mark
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says, can you guys recommend a webcam? I have one on my laptop
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and have been haven't been too pleased with it. The quality leaves much to
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be desired, which probably like the what I have on mine. All right,
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so why don't we, you know, break that down when we come
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back. We can actually talk about that and maybe give a couple of suggestions.
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We'll be back with more of tech talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor,
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I'm Sean de Weird, and I'm Justin. Let me find us on the
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web at tech talkRADIO dot com. We'll be right back and now back to
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tech talk Radio. So before the break, Andy poses this question from viewer
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Mark. He said, can you guys recommend me a webcam or my computer?
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The one on his laptop just isn't doing justice, and that's to be
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expected. Those and your little tiny cameras are their garbage, all right?
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Can I tell you about my laptop camera? And I love my laptop.
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I'm very happy with my Lenovo Lesion laptop. The camera is not at the
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top of the bezel on the screen. It's at the bottom. So no
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matter what you do, you get that doin So, yeah, what what
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you do? That camera is shooting up into your face, so you've got
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that double chin. You could see the nose and all the acne underneath your
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beard. Yeah. The the on camera beyond webcam, on the on camera
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webcams for laptops and even MacBooks, the quality of those cameras is not good,
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all right, So what what should Mark be looking at? So for
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me and and there actually is a good supply of USB webcams, get right,
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You had an influx of really garbage webcams come round after COVID. Vendors
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just start putting out really really cheap quality plastic lens is, small sensors,
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just whatever they can afford to send out during COVID because everybody is buying used
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be webcams. Everybody's prices skyrocketed during COVID. For even like seven twenty P
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laptops, we're running one hundred and twenty and forty dollars. But now those
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prices are much much lower and you can find them on Amazon and stuff.
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But for my recommendation, I would stay with some of the more known brands
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for webcams Logitech, Dell, Anchor. And then if you want to get
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into if you're looking for something a little bit more on the broadcast side,
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or looking for something a little bit more like meeting friendly, if you're doing
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small meetings or large meetings, Razor makes one. They call it the key
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Kyo Pro. Really, Algatto makes one. They have a al Gatto facecam.
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If you if you're familiar with Algato, with the stream deck, those
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tapes of things. It integrates with all those their systems. Let me just
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ask, let me just mention this real quick. So just a differentry eate.
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Right, we're talking about like regular quality. You're gonna look at Logitech
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or Dell or maybe Anchor. But if you want to get something better,
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you're probably gonna want to Google for a broadcast quality webcam. Okay, yeah,
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something that's gonna do ten EIGHTP sixty finist per second. Now, the
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Dell and Logitech they have those also, Right, it's gonna be USB three
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or USBC. Right, those are the way the connection types you get.
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But if you're looking for something a little bit larger, because these are the
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Logitech and Dell ones are the ones that can mount on top of your monitor,
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they're small form factor, they're not gonna take them aho lot of space.
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But then you can get into the higher quality ones that are gonna be
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larger because they have a larger censor size in them, so the image quality
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is better. Now they're they're gonna throw numbers at you like ten EIGHTP seven
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to twenty p four k. Right, that's just the number of pixels,
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right, Okay, that the pixels for sensor, right, the number of
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pixels per sensor. The larger the sensor, the larger the pixels are.
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So if you cram a small sensor in there and claim it has four K,
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the pixels are really tiny, so your image quality is not as good
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because there's a lot smaller detail and there's a lot more information to cram into
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a smaller sensor. So if you get a larger sensor size, and there's
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different sizes you can google that. I'm not going to go into that.
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You get a larger sensor, the cameras obviously got to be a little bit
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bigger. You get more, you get the same number of pixels, but
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they're larger, so they capture more light, they capture more details. So
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that's why larger cameras that have larger sensors get better quality videos. Well,
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another thing too, is if you get let's say you get a four K
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capable camera, right, Okay, it's not going to really do you any
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good to spend that extra money to get a four K because there's not a
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lot of people out there that even have a four K monitor that can see
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you on the other side, correct, So you're spending money for no reason.
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Where it's at ten ten ADP for for these types of things is going
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to be perfect right in the middle. It's gonna get you what you want.
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So Dell Logitical they all have them, Algato Razor and then if you
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want to spend the money. We have these at work and we use them
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for our conference rooms, the Hugby i Q, so the h U D
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d L a Hugby i Q. They have a camera it's called is just
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what it's called, the hell the IQ. It's for conference rooms and it
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can track who's talking and it will zoom in on them. So it's like
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if we were all in the same conference room, it would panned to the
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person talking, right, But it does it all internally in the camera,
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so it's just a smart So it's taking that four K image and zooming in
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on those different regions of yea yeah, to give you a good quality image.
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It's digital zoom, but it's it's just what it is. But they
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look really good and they can fit in our conference rooms and show you the
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whole room. It's got a super nice white angle on it. That's what
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we use at work to have the iqus for all of our little zoom rooms
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and stuff like that. So that's the eight hundred dollars option. So wow,
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yeah, uh, don't do that if you know, don't spend the
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money on that. But I just wanted to throw that one out there.
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If you're if you have the money and you want to spend it on a
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really nice high end zoom you know, USB camera, that's what I would
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What do you think about the idea of And we saw this during the pandemic,
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where again it's true getting a webcam was really difficult. People who took
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their DSLRs and they had their deal oh yeah, and their software available for
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a lot of these, they could turn them into webcams. I tried.
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I tried with mine. I couldn't make it work. So Nikon you had
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to update the firm There were firmware updates you had to do for the Nikons,
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and they didn't always provide a clean output for for the USB on the
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Nikons and some of the newer mirrorss ones they do. Cannon went the right
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way. Cannon during right after the right after Carol, what happened, They
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said, we support the USB. You know what. At the EOS firmware
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update, they updated the EOS version for all their DSLRs said you can plug
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your camera into the US being kidna up for Wow, it was a free
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update and then you just plug it in USB and your computer. You obviously
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had to power it, whether it was a battery or a power station that
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could plug into a you know, a nacy power outlet. But Cannon went
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the right way because you had a lot of other vendors that were saying you
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might just need to pay us for a license to that lock. That's that
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that right there, What you just said might make me consider Canon for my
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next because I've always been a Nikon guy. I do have an icon it's
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obviously like ten years old or more. But at this point, like if
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I ever wanted to use because I tried. I tried doing that whole streaming
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thing from home during COVID, Yeah, and I couldn't. The Nikon would
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cut out after thirty minutes. It would just it would stop operating after thirty
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minutes, and I just I couldn't deal with that. Yeah, Yeah,
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So if I were to do it one, I'd probably Yeah, Nikon just
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they dropped the ball on putting out a firmware update that would allow you to
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do untimed streaming out because they limit you on the outputs because they're their their
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their concept is all right, they're using the HDMI output, right. That's
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typically if if you're shooting and you're doing video and you want to stream it
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out, but you're taking typically taking age steam my output, that's extra processing
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which creates a lot of heat. So if you're stilming, if you're recording
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and outputting, it creates a lot of heat internally, and they had issues
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with overheating where the camera was shut down, so they put a time they
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put they put a time restriction on the time you could spend recording and outputting.
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But retroactively they didn't realize, well, it's also just the timed output.
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Yeah, so if you're just using the output, it's still timed,
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whether or not you're reporilding or not use I use a Logitech Brio, and
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I love that camera. It's a little pricey, and that one does four
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K, you know, I mean, but the ten EIGHTP portion of it
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is great. I love the different settings. Logitech builds a lot into their
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software to help a user that isn't using maybe a third party program like OBS
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or wirecasts that you could just record stuff or even utilize it within Zoom pretty
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easily. And the brios like Logitech, the stream cam is also good because
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you can then you can actually shoot it wide or you can shoot a portrait.
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So if you want to do videos on reels like Instagram reels or Facebook
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reels or even TikTok if you if you want to do that, you could
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do that because it'll be in the right aperture to do that. So again
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that's the Logitech has a lot of options. I bought a Creative Labs one
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for twenty dollars. It was on like Amazon. I wasn't too happy with
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the quality of it. I like the fact that it's got a you know,
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a screen on it, that whole bit, you know, you could
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privacy screen. But for the ten edp it just wasn't that great. Okay,
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So let me ask you guys this real quick, for Mark, for
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Mark's sake. All right, all right, We've talked about five or six
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different brands right here, I'm gonna ask you guys each the same question.
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Name one that you would go with. Andy, you go first, Logitech.
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If I wasn't doing DSLR, it'd be Logitech. Okay, Sean,
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say Logitech. If I wasn't doing my setup that I have, it'd be
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Logitech, okay, and me Logitech. Yeah, So I think it hands
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down. They have many options, the lower, lower price options, and
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then of course all the way up to the Breede you're getting the best bang
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for the buck with Logitech and the other The other thing that I will also
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suggest is if you want, if you get a Logitech. And I ran
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into this issue when I tried to do a live stream probably back in two
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thousand twelve to twenty thirteen, is some of them don't auto focus. Some
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of them are set at a two foot focus length. So if you set
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it up and are expecting to see the backside of a room or be you
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know, five feet away from your computer, like in a canvas room,
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it's not going to focus because it's only set to focus. So find something
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that can do a dynamic auto focus, or that you can roll a knob
24:23
to focus the lens, right, So just don't get stuck with the one
24:26
that you're expecting. Well, Okay, I'm hitting here and I'm in focus.
24:29
But now if I back up and show I don't three people, they're
24:32
not going to be in focus. I don't even think you can find those
24:33
anymore. I think you can. I think almost every single camera now has
24:37
dynamic autofocus. Yeah yeah, most most, if not all, due but
24:41
there are cameras out there, especially the cheap ones. Well yeah, yeah,
24:48
so look, look look at spending thirty to fifty dollars on a decent
24:53
low end high end seven to twenty P, low end ten ADP sixty two
25:00
one hundred dollars. If you're looking for something that's gonna I would, I
25:03
would, I would, I would mora align with because I've actually bought a
25:07
few different webcams for people at work. I would say more in line with
25:11
the sixty to one hundred to get a decent webcam. All right, Well,
25:15
something we need to touch on that we were talking about this week,
25:18
and it concerns me, and it concerns pretty much anybody that has decided to,
25:23
you know, kind of invest in a drone. Maybe they wanted to
25:26
start a business with it. You could get your license, you can commercially
25:30
make money, you could take some great shots to your property. But there's
25:33
a story that Justin shared this week, and Sean also took a look at
25:37
this regarding Dji, the company that well, one of the companies that makes
25:41
drones, but they make some of the best ones in the market. Well,
25:45
but they're also based out of China. Yeah, and that's the whole
25:48
purpose of the story, right, So basically what they're saying is the United
25:53
States is now threatening I think yet once again, correct me if I'm wrong.
25:59
This this happened, It's not the first time that bill. So if
26:03
Justin brought this to our attention, and I did some research on it,
26:07
because I have been involved in drones for a decade now, over a decade,
26:12
a handful of members of the House of Representatives introduced a bill known as
26:17
the Countering CCP Drone Act CCP so the Communist part China Party, Yeah whatever.
26:26
So basically it's saying it aims to block new dj A products from entering
26:30
the US market and could also lead to the revocation of their existing FCC authorizations,
26:37
So you would no longer be able to buy new Dji drones. And
26:41
I don't think it's just Dji drones. It'd be their Osmo, their pocket,
26:45
their transmission, their everything may make They're afraid the Chinese have put a
26:49
backdoor into these products that will allow the Chinese government to spy on US citizens.
26:56
Yep, so dj I put out. If you go to Viewpoints dot
27:00
DGA dot com, this is their blog. This is their tech blog where
27:03
they put all their stuff. They have written a rebuttal to the House Act
27:07
that the Bill of the House has put on the floor. So there's a
27:12
lot we can talk about it a little bit more after the break or where
27:15
we get a little bit more time, but there's a lot of misinformation.
27:21
Yeah, let's see how this plays out over the next couple of weeks.
27:22
We'll certainly maybe talk about it on a future show as well. Now,
27:26
coming up, talk to a CEO of a company that has been around twelve
27:30
years developing and they've got what they call the active green screen. They've got
27:34
this camera that they've developed from scratch that this camera could be used for streaming.
27:42
It's an amazing green screen if you guys haven't seen it. They took
27:45
the technology and changed it completely around. So we'll talk with the CEO of
27:49
the company, Richard Newman, and the co founder of the company. Sub
27:52
to R and you can find them on the web, but subtowo R dot
27:56
com if you want to follow along and take a look at the many different
28:00
that they offer. Coming up with tech talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor,
28:03
I'm Shonda Weird, and I'm justin. Let me find us on Facebook if
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it's actually up Facebook dot com forrestlast tech talkers. Now back to Chief Talk
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Radio. Welcome back to tech talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor and really wanted
28:18
Sean to be in on this one, but unfortunately he was in a meeting.
28:22
But I'll tell you what. This is so amazing when you see technology.
28:26
And I saw a video on Instagram on the other day and was talking
28:30
about a pro product from sub to R, and I was watching this green
28:33
screen and I was thinking, this is absolutely amazing the quality of this green
28:40
screen. We've seen products come out and they're just difficult to really use.
28:44
I started looking into this company, sub to R, and I found out
28:48
that they really make a whole bunch of products for really the live streamer,
28:52
the one that really wants to take it to the edge, and their green
28:53
screen technology is amazing. Richard Newman is a co founder and CEO for sub
29:00
You are to tell us about probably one of the biggest secrets in this in
29:06
this kind of market, Richard. Great to talk to you. Thank you
29:08
for having me, and I really appreciate the opportunity of being here today.
29:12
Twelve years this company has been around innovating and trying to find different ways to
29:18
do this technology. What made you get interested in this? So taking it
29:22
all the way back, I used to be a co founder and a company
29:26
that makes Vixel lasers high speeds of my conductor lasers predominantly used in communication.
29:30
But I found that this was back in the days when the Connect gaming console
29:37
was coming out, you know, the three D imaging thing, and I
29:38
saw an opportunity for this technology to be used there. Well, the company
29:42
decided to focus on communication, and I left and started a company in San
29:48
Francisco to do high speed three D imaging and part of that required a camera
29:52
that gave us the ability to do things that no other camera out there could
29:56
do. And so we sent around and said, how are are going to
30:00
be to build a camera? Wow? Oh, it's amazingly difficult, as
30:03
we found out. Yes, and our core technology, of course is this
30:07
is our brand new next generation of camera right here. It's a four K
30:12
sixty large format streaming video camera. We debuted it in TwitchCon last October and
30:18
they should launch the next quarter. But this is designed specifically for the pro
30:22
content creator and independent studios. That's our fourth generation of camera. The third
30:27
generation of cameras went out, we built and a lot of people loved them,
30:32
and we stay very connected with our community. I call them our fans.
30:37
And they complained a lot about green screens. They didn't like all the
30:41
lights, they didn't like the setup. A lot of streamers are in a
30:45
spare room, in a dorm room, in a closet. We have on
30:48
one streamer, we set her up in her bedroom closet and they all complained
30:53
about green screens. And green screens have five fundamental problems that everybody in different
30:59
orders. Depends on which one you hate most. But no matter when how
31:02
you google problems with green screen, it always comes up with lighting, distance,
31:07
shadows, green spill, wrinkles, and blemishes. Have been through all
31:11
of those, yes, and you know, and a lot of people just
31:15
finally give up and they say screw it, and they figure to throw out
31:18
their green screens right or they've got to roll up and stuck someplace. In
31:22
the middle of the night, I woke up and I said, you know,
31:25
what if you put the light behind the green screen a solve all those
31:30
problems? That was a light bulb moment for you, right, it was
31:33
a light bulb moment. Yeah. I ran down a lab and I hacked
31:37
one together and it was like, wow, it works. And then I
31:40
made a bigger one out of like two by four frames and really clunky.
31:44
And one of our co founders, his name is Serge. He's got a
31:47
very small studio in his home, went and dragged it to his place and
31:51
basically took up the whole room and it worked. It took us two years
31:56
after that to get from an idea to something that was a marketable, viable
32:04
product. You think that, oh, well that's going to be easy,
32:06
right, but we went through iteration and iteration, iteration, trying to get
32:09
everything just right. The factory we're using makes high end photographic equipment, so
32:15
if you buy, you know, really the top of the line studio equipment,
32:20
they're probably the ones that made it. And they got really mad at
32:22
us at one point and they said, how many prototypes are you going to
32:25
build it? And my response was as many as it takes to get it
32:30
right. We built this on It's really fabulous, because I mean this is
32:36
literally I'm putting my hand on the screen. There's no light in my studio
32:39
right now at all, except for one tiny desk lamp that's on me,
32:44
Richard. That's been the biggest challenge. I had to do a demo video
32:47
foreign actress and I had a green screen setup. I have all the lights
32:52
I had to set up getting her to the right. It took probably two
32:57
hours more than it should have taken for this video. With your product with
33:00
a sub to r ags, it looks like you could set it up and
33:04
you're ready to go. So this was actually down in our studio last night.
33:08
We were shooting some videos and I packed it up and brought it up
33:12
to my office here and I tied myself this morning just for fun, and
33:15
it was two minutes and forty seconds zipper to ready to go. Wow,
33:20
and I hadn't had my first cup of coffee. I could probably beat that
33:22
time. But that's the key thing is that it's easy to transport, it's
33:29
easy to take up, to pack up, and then because it runs on
33:31
a USB five bulls, you can put a little battery on it. And
33:35
I've actually taken this to the beach in San Francisco after sunset and walk down
33:38
the beach with it. So if you're doing an outdoor type of game setting,
33:44
you're good to go. You don't need an electrical outlet, you don't
33:46
need all the lights. You can just use it where it goes. And
33:50
while I think it makes the job for somebody with a small setup amazingly easy,
33:55
one of the things I'm looking forward to is we're working with a couple
33:59
of local universities in getting students to use it in ways nobody ever imagined green
34:07
screen could be used. Take it out. If you meet anybody who's in
34:09
the industry who's worked with green screens. A green screen is something you bolt
34:15
on the wall, you painstakingly set the lights up, and you forge your
34:19
actor into this small space, exactly what we like to do with sub to
34:22
ours. Break all the rules and it now becomes a dynamic element in whatever
34:30
video you're trying to produce. Richard, when we talk about the distance,
34:34
for myself in this situation, I would need a huge green background, but
34:38
with sub to R I could put it right behind me. And with the
34:43
dimensions, how wide is it? It's a standard five by seven that would
34:46
be perfect because but you can't put something like that in the traditional sense because
34:52
again you run into all those problems with the bleed lighting everything well, and
34:55
the fun thing about this is it doesn't care what direction it goes. So
35:00
if you need a narrow wide you just turn out sideways. Oh wow.
35:04
And it comes with little little cloth loops on it and we hang them on
35:07
the wall with those three M picture hangers teats and so you just you can
35:12
stick it on the wall, there's no mess on the floor. You can
35:14
put it in any orientation you want. You can twist it. We really
35:17
did set up a young streamer in la in her bedroom closet with it.
35:22
That's how much room she has. Amazing, but it worked. If you
35:27
ever watch a movie with a bad CG right away, your belief is thrown
35:30
off, and that's not good. If you're watching something and you're doing a
35:35
presentation with your live streamer and you've got a great background, you can't tell
35:38
that maybe it's generated. Again, you don't lose that viewer, that person
35:44
who's watching this with that disbelief, right, and a lot of people that
35:46
have been buying them recently are professionals. They may be a well known doctor,
35:52
or they may be a well known spokesperson, but they're not a lighting
35:57
technician, they're not a camera expert. They be they're good at what they
36:00
do, but they don't need to be experts in studio lighting and experts and
36:07
special effects, and that takes lifetime sometimes to master. And you can't master
36:14
twenty seven talents. Well, some people can, but I can't ask their
36:17
twenty seven talents. And so what this does it takes a large portion of
36:24
the hassles away from setting up a green screen type of environment, and a
36:30
lot of people they want to use it for perhaps showing something about their company,
36:37
or an active whiteboard or whatever it is that they're doing to help demonstrate
36:44
the message that they're trying to convey. What we do is we try to
36:49
make that easier for you with technology. And one of the things that we
36:53
differentiate ourselves with is sub to our is a hardware technology company. There's not
36:59
a lot of us out there, a lot of people that make software,
37:01
but we are hardware. And thus you've developed the studio for sixty which is
37:07
taking pre orders. Now that is the camera that you showed us earlier.
37:10
How is that going to be different than maybe a desktop webcam that some people
37:15
may be using. So a lot of people that are again going back to
37:20
our twitch streamers and content creators, there is the webcam. And then when
37:24
you want to level up, you want to elevate the quality of your broadcast,
37:30
most people will move to a DSLR or a mirrorless solution. The problem
37:35
with those is that they're not The camera itself is not designed for continuous streaming.
37:42
Those cameras are designed to maybe capture some video, but mostly take really
37:46
good still shots, and they're not interactive in a way that makes it easy.
37:52
You have to have battery packs. They overheat, they shut down,
37:58
they're difficult to set up a you know the argument that oh, well you
38:01
know, I can also take it with me wherever I go. Trust me,
38:05
anybody who sets one up in a broadcast situation, they've gone through so
38:08
much trouble. They will not move it. They will not tex you.
38:12
We did it at the ES one year. Yeah. So what we've done
38:15
is we've taken a Sony iMX two ninety four, which is a micro four
38:19
thirds sensor, and we built it into our camera so that we support first
38:23
of all, all the powered micro four thirds lenses. Wow. So this
38:28
gives you the photographer, an incredible collection of glass that's available to you that's
38:37
very affordable. And then we use what's called an FPGA which is a very
38:40
powerful processor, and we dump the video out in four K sixty at twelve
38:47
bit. And for the square one there's a dedicated HDMI output. All the
38:53
outputs are are four K sixty in the studio or sixty is. We have
38:59
a duel SDI output with a gen lock in oh Man, so it really
39:04
is studio. And all of the controls on the camera are available are through
39:09
the host, so you don't have to touch the camera. You can basically
39:13
from your computer control every aspect about the camera you want. And then one
39:17
of the things we added early on on the back, you'll see this little
39:21
square box here. This is called an SFP module. And these little modules
39:24
are amazing because what they allow you to do is convert the video signal in
39:30
the camera to any other video format you want to the outside, like optical,
39:36
like IP. And you don't pay for that in the camera. You
39:38
just buy a module if you need it, slip it in the back,
39:42
and off you go and running. We have this bank of connectors here,
39:45
which are basically we give you auxiliary power out so you can connect different things
39:51
to the camera. We also have what's called ice coord C, which is
39:54
a language that computer the components, electronic components talk to each other, so
40:01
the camera can then talk to things like your lights, a gimbal, you
40:06
know, anything else in the green screen, anything else in the room you
40:08
can control via this plug in the back. Amazing. We've built it with
40:14
rack mounts on the side, rack mounts on the bottom, there's mounting quarter
40:17
twenty mounts on the top, quarter twenty mounts on the bottom. The camera
40:22
itself is passively cooled so that under normal circumstances it's completely silent. But in
40:31
the case where the passive cooling will not keep the camera under temperature, then
40:37
there's a small active fan on the inside. Right. And to give you
40:39
an idea how crazy we are, we work with a guy who makes those
40:43
stunt biplanes. I think you've seen him in like the Red Bull commercials.
40:46
Oh yeah, he builds them from scratch. I mean he'll take a block
40:51
of aluminum and make this engine that's the size of a microwave oven, that
40:55
produces seven hundred horsepower. You know. So we were talking to j and
41:00
we said, look, how do we make this thing the fan quieter,
41:05
less vibration, less noise. So the vent on the fan is an airfoil
41:10
oh Wow, signed by designed with the same program. He uses the design
41:15
propellers and it reduces the drag on the fan by thirty percent, which means
41:20
my fan runs thirty percent slower, thirty percent less vibrations. Yes, that's
41:25
the attention to detail we put into everything we make. And we should see
41:30
these before the end of the year, hopefully next quarter. We've got a
41:34
limited production ready to go and we're just going through some last minute work on
41:37
them before I feel that they're up to are to release out into the world.
41:44
Amazing stuff. Now, I want our listeners to definitely take a look
41:46
at the website for sub two R. You might see the videos in social
41:51
which was great because again they totally caught by attention, especially with the fact
41:53
that with the green screen technology with the ags hair is one of the things
42:00
that he can give it away. Sometimes if you're Gil Brunner, you're great,
42:02
but well even then you get the shadow if it's a bad green screen,
42:07
But in this case you're you're gonna be able to see through that hair,
42:10
which gives it even more realism. Yeah, you and I both share
42:14
that silver accents right exactly. On our YouTube channel, you'll see a lot
42:22
of the stuff that we do that we have fun with. We did a
42:24
video with just a green screen and me illuminated with a candle. Then there's
42:30
a gentleman we work with, Stephen Washer. He helps people develop their video
42:36
presentation skills and he's also very silver help hair gentleman, and his thing was
42:40
all maintaining the details of the hair follicles and yeah, which is, as
42:46
you said, is a real challenge. And so we worked with him and
42:49
he's got We've got a great video on how well we were able to maintain
42:53
that that he couldn't get any other way. So what's the address for the
42:58
the YouTube video which what's the channel name? Just sub to our you'll be
43:01
able to catch that all there. And again if they want to buy the
43:04
products, what is the website subtour dot com. There you go. You
43:07
made it easy, Richard. You've worked twelve years to make this product,
43:14
you know, get it to where it's at with all the products, and
43:16
do you think this is just the beginning. Are you looking at the technology
43:21
now, because I know you also do mounts. We also do mounts.
43:23
We make a really cool amount that oh look, it just sits on the
43:29
back of your monitor, right and allows you to put all of your gear
43:34
off of this one mounth that just sits on your monitor. So we hang
43:37
these little Prismo lights, we hang the camera, and the nice thing is
43:42
it brings the camera down to the point where the lens is as close to
43:45
eye level to you as possible. Normally, when you get to a DSLR,
43:47
then you have to have a tripod or something like that, and the
43:51
view is always down on somebody's head. So we did this so that it
43:54
gets as close to eye level as possible, because you want to make icon
43:59
pat with your audience. It's these little things. And it was funny because
44:02
again this is a bit of technology. You think, how hard is it
44:06
to make a little mouth that doesn't clamp but mounts to the top of your
44:10
monitor. I have cases of skeletons of prototypes. And we finally went back
44:17
in time to the turn of the last century and studied what a man named
44:23
Hearth did for making power giant power couplings and he invented this thing called a
44:30
hearth coupling, which is basically a serrated coupling that locks together and it doesn't
44:35
take much force to hold the two sides together and keeps them locked together when
44:38
they rotate. So one of the problems we had is when you put a
44:42
lot of weight on something, how do you keep that locked in place and
44:45
keep it from moving. We finally finally came up with that and it was
44:47
like, wow, that's such a great idea, And so we lock ours
44:52
together with the hearth coupling and it just takes a little bit of pressure and
44:55
then the mount is perfectly locked in his position. I will call you an
44:59
invent Do you look at things sometimes that's say that could be made better?
45:02
We look at things and as surge lights to say, our ignorance is our
45:07
greatest strength. We look at something like a camera. We look at that
45:10
and say, well, how hard can it be to build a camera that
45:14
does everything we wanted to do? Yeah, but we start down the path
45:17
doing it, we realize it's pretty tough. But that's why if you look
45:21
around, I think we are the only small hardware company that makes a camera
45:25
from the ground up. We start from the chips and piece the printed circuit
45:30
board and all the components, and we build it from scrap. We build
45:36
it from the ground up, and that means we know every piece of this
45:38
intimately. On a camera, there's over a thousand electronic components and we have
45:45
multitude of high speed lanes inside that all have to be done perfectly. It's
45:50
not something that's easy to do. I mean you look at companies like I
45:53
won't name names, but the big cell phone companies they have eight hundred engineers
46:00
just working directly for them to develop a camera. We have four people in
46:06
the company. Amazing, continue success, Richard. Thank you to keep looking
46:10
at the products as they are coming out. Definitely, if you are a
46:15
content creator or even somebody just you want to start doing some videos having your
46:19
logo behind you, you don't. It doesn't have to be extreme, doesn't
46:22
have to be butterflies and explosions. It can be. It can be a
46:27
logo, it could be branding, which could be very important even in a
46:30
zoom call. Definitely take a look at the agsgreenscreen subtour dot com. Thank
46:35
you so much Richard for coming on tech talk Radio. Thank you so much
46:37
for having me. I appreciate it. Take care again, really great product
46:42
from sub to R. Now, if you want to find them on the
46:45
web, what you do is just go to sub the number two R dot
46:49
com and you'll be able to check out the videos there. The video that
46:52
I saw was pretty amazing how they're able to really get that really clean green
46:58
screen. Look. You know you've never used a green screen before, but
47:01
you've been thinking you want to do videos, you want to have a different
47:05
background. There are some software solutions I know about that come with even Zoom
47:09
or even Logitech systems. Skype can do it, but you really want that
47:14
that you know, it doesn't mess with the believability and what you're doing or
47:17
where you're at. This is actually a really good product and again it looks
47:22
it looks amazing. Now, if you are a creator and you've been thinking
47:27
you wanted a wireless lapel mic to work with your smartphone, they have them
47:32
so that you can work with other types of devices. But Sure they make
47:37
great microphones. They've got their first wireless lapel mic which can connect to your
47:42
smartphone without a receiver. You'll still need a receiver to record with anything,
47:46
but Sure's mobile app Move mic system. So you have this app and it
47:51
records into your smartphone, but if you're recording it somewhere else, you'll need
47:54
to get the receiver for that, and they have a special deal. It's
47:59
a part of a bundle with two dual channel channel mics for four hundred and
48:04
ninety nine bucks. Now, if you want to just get the single channel
48:07
without the receiver, just connects to your smartphone, that's two hundred and forty
48:10
nine dollars for the move Mic one. The dual channel is three forty nine
48:16
the move Mic two, and again if you want to bundle that with a
48:20
receiver, it all comes up to just about five hundred dollars. Now,
48:23
I wanted to mention this. I was asked the question, can you get
48:28
a great budget laptop for under five hundred dollars. We've tackled that before and
48:34
so I did a bit of shopping. This just really surprised me. Lenovo.
48:39
Lenovo has got the Idea Pad I three. Now, the Lenovo i
48:45
Pay Idea Pad I three is a budget conscience laptop. But what's amazing is
48:54
the their Idea Pad I three has the same specs of the Lenovo Leads,
49:00
which I bought about two maybe two and a half three years ago, the
49:04
same specs. Now, I bought that for right around I think it was
49:08
about nine hundred dollars and it was marked down from thirteen ninety nine. This
49:14
Lenovo Idea Pad I three, which is available you can go online. I
49:17
know they have in the big box stores. I got mine. I'll be
49:20
honest, I'll tell you I bought it. Ad best Buy is a budget
49:24
laptop that sells four Well, let me tell you what it comes with it.
49:29
First, you get eight gigs a RAM. It's got the Intel I
49:32
five processor, twelfth generation, five hundred gigabyte SSD, which is great.
49:39
Fifteen point six FHD screen that's a full high definition, meaning you you can
49:46
go up to nineteen twenty by ten eighty on your screen, so you're gonna
49:50
get a really good look. It's light, it weighs less than four pounds.
49:54
It also has some other features you might want to know about. It
49:58
has. Let's see, it's got two USB ports three point one, it's
50:02
got USBC. It's got HDMI as well. And this I didn't get this
50:08
online. It actually has a card reader, so if you use SD cards,
50:14
you can pop an SD card in their reader, and so it's great
50:16
for going on the go. If you're a photographer, maybe you're using you
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know, the SD cards. You just pop it right into your laptop.
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Now, one thing about it, and some people have right away said,
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oh no, I'll just tell you it runs Windows eleven Home in S mode.
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Now. S Mode is a special security mode from Microsoft. And how
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it basically every app that you get, you'd have to go through the App
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store, the Windows Store, Microsoft Store. But here's the deal. You
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can turn it off. The problem is you can't turn it back on.
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So you know, if you're you know, just using it for email,
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which is a pretty powerful apptop for email, you'll probably be pretty happy with
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this. Very light. Then you could pick this up and this is what
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surprised me. Three hundred and forty nine dollars. It's been marked down.
51:08
Hopefully that sale is still going on. But again the Idea Pad I three
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also another tidbit of info. This past week, Apple released iOS seventeen Dot
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four and the iPadOS seventeen dot four as well. It's their fourth major update
51:24
to the iOS seventeen operating system that came out back in gosh September of twenty
51:29
twenty three. They've got new emojis. You need a mushroom emoji, phoenix,
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a broken chain, eighteen people and body emojis, add the option to
51:37
face them in either direction. That's kind of cool, and some other security
51:40
features. So if you have an iPhone, you might want to go ahead
51:44
and update that if you can run iOS seventeen. All right, we're going
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to take a quit, another quick break. We'll come back with the guys.
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We'll kind of wrap up this week's show in the meantime. Find us
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on the web, but tech talk radio dot com and now fact to tech
51:57
Talk Radio. For the final segment, we want to talk a little bit
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about video games. I love video games. Sean, you love video games.
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Andy, you want to love video games. You just don't have enough
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time. Xbox Game Pass Now this is not new, okay, there there
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have been other attempts at this in the past, Like Sega came out with
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the cable version, where you would actually plug your cable TV line into a
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cartridge and you would get a monthly subscription of games you could play. I
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can't remember exactly what it was called, but it was on the stick of
52:27
Genesis. Anyway, Xbox game Pass is fantastic. I want to get it
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again. Yeah, but it's not just Xbox. The Xbox Game Pass is
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also with PC. And there's rumors that Xbox game Pass, like Xbox itself,
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might be morphing into a different kind of company where they're not going to
52:49
be doing consoles anymore. They're gonna be concentrating on just delivering game Pass to
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everything, to your television, to your computer, to the PlayStation, to
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the switch. I mean, they might be offering more of a content delivery
53:06
service. Do you think Microsoft could get into the idea of actually building a
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smart TV with some of this technology in there. That's a little I don't
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know about that. I've never really did about that, so I don't know
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how to answer that question. But yeah, I can just say Xbox game
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Pass. When I first signed up for you, this used to be called
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Xbox Live. Okay it was. It was this their online platform. If
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you wanted to play a game online, you had to go and get Xbox
53:35
Live. But they started transforming into the Xbox Game Pass, where you basically
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pay nineteen ninety nine a month and you get access to like one thousand different
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games. Now you also get access to day one triple A titles like Call
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of Duty or Madden or whatever else is coming out like the big games.
53:57
Right. The beauty of Xbox Game Pass from an indie developer point of perspective
54:04
is that this brings a whole new audience to indie developers. When I say
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indie developers, I mean small studios, people that would never even know your
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game existed if it wasn't for Game Pass. And a good point too.
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If you're out there and you're looking at game titles, you're thinking, I'm
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going to spend this tripa a money, you know, seventy dollars eighty dollars
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on Microsoft Flight Simulator. Check it's on game Pass, so you can pay
54:29
subscription and there you go. You could play it. Also, justin I
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don't know if you know this, but Nintendo Switch Online is doing a fourteen
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day free trial that starts tomorrow, which is March tenth. Get it mar
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ten, Mario Day AOO day. You can pick up that fourteen day Nintendo
54:45
Switch Online trial for free through the eighteenth of this month. So something else
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to think about when it comes to your games. So I just want to
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say one last thing. If you're looking at games go with the Xbox Game
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Pass. You don't have to have an Xbox. You can do it via
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your PC if you have Windows. Awesome, great stuff. We'll have more
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on the web. On the blog, we'll have link to the DJI article.
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And once again, big congratulations going out to Caitlin and Sean on a
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little congratulations guys. Little Daniel loose here so very cool. Thanks again.
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This wraps up this week's Tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Sean
55:22
de Weird, and I'm Joson Lemme. Once again, find us on the
55:27
web at tech talk radio dot com. Have yourselves great week. We'll see you