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INTERVIEW: Dean Phillips On Our Government's Lack Of Courage, Biden's Failures, Repairing America + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody is DJ Envy Charlamagne the guy. We are to
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  Speaker 2: Breakfast Club. You got a special guest in the building.
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  Speaker 3: That's right, US Representative of Minnesota and twenty twenty four
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  Speaker 3: presidential candidate Dean Phillips.
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  Speaker 1: Well Unison, Good morning, gentlemen.
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  Speaker 4: How are you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm I'm humbled. I'm really humbled to
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  Speaker 1: be with you guys. I'm doing it great, happy to
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  Speaker 1: be in Manhattan, happy to be on this journey, and
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  Speaker 1: happy to be with you guys.
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  Speaker 2: So let's start with why why jumping into this crazy race?
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  Speaker 1: Well, because I'll be alive to see the fruits of
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  Speaker 1: our labor. That's one reason I think it's time for change.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sick of a country that makes all these promises,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't fulfill any And when I went to Congress in
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  Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, I was just disgusted. Now I understand what's
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  Speaker 1: so damn wrong in our country and why this system
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  Speaker 1: defeats everybody here, and I want to do something about it.
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  Speaker 1: I lost my dad in Vietnam. He gave his life
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  Speaker 1: to the country. The least I can do is pay
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  Speaker 1: something back and the way to do it is to
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  Speaker 1: try to change stuff. And I'm really frush stra and
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  Speaker 1: I'm disappointed and the lack of courage in Washington and
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  Speaker 1: Congress in this country right now. I think it's time
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  Speaker 1: for our generations to rise and stop this nonsense and
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  Speaker 1: actually realize what we can be and reclaim some of
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  Speaker 1: the principles and values I think we all share. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm really pissed off, to be honest with you. What
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  Speaker 1: is pissed off?
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  Speaker 4: What is wrong with our country?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think our country was founded on the premise
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  Speaker 1: that all are created equal and we've never fulfilled it.
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  Speaker 1: And that's just true in so many cases. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: Washington is such a culture of rewards for the wealthy
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  Speaker 1: and the well connected, and it's this little capsule, it's
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  Speaker 1: this little like balloon, if you will, that is so
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  Speaker 1: disconnected from reality. And we have a system that breeds
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  Speaker 1: and rewards sticking around there and staying there and nobody
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  Speaker 1: gets out and listens. And I got it. I've only
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  Speaker 1: been doing this two months.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 1: Look, I come from Minnesota. I'm a white congressman from
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  Speaker 1: a suburban Minneapolis district. I thought I knew shit. I
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  Speaker 1: thought I knew people. I thought I knew it was wrong.
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  Speaker 1: But boy, until I've been traveling country and going to
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  Speaker 1: have little towns and through the east and west, north
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  Speaker 1: and south, I got to tell you, it's really opened
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  Speaker 1: my heart and mind. And we're broken. And we can
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  Speaker 1: either complain about it and argue about and yell about
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  Speaker 1: it and hate each other for it, or we can
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  Speaker 1: do something about it. I still think we can do
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  Speaker 1: something about it. And I just want to be that voice.
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  Speaker 1: It's a lonely voice some days, but that's what I
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  Speaker 1: want to do.
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  Speaker 2: Always ask, so, what do you think about the job
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  Speaker 2: that Biden has done so far? And jumping on with Charlamagne, said,
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  Speaker 2: what do you think he could have done better?
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  Speaker 1: Look, you know, I respect our president and I'm so
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  Speaker 1: glad he won in twenty twenty because he saved us.
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  Speaker 1: He can't do it again. He's not electable. But to
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  Speaker 1: answer your question directly, which I know is rare for politicians,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think it's a lot of promises, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of promises. A lot of people promise to
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  Speaker 1: do this and that, and then they get into office
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  Speaker 1: and then they you know, they love the seats and
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  Speaker 1: they love the chairs, and they love the thrones if
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  Speaker 1: you will and don't do a whole lot. I think
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  Speaker 1: he's a good man. I think he served our country well.
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  Speaker 1: But when you've been there for fifty years you've never
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  Speaker 1: had life experience outside of Washington, d C. It changes you, man,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it just does you know. I come at
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  Speaker 1: it from a different angle. I don't want to condemn
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  Speaker 1: him and demean him, but I think he's let a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people down, and I want to do something differently.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it's time to stop rewarding the wealthy
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  Speaker 1: and the well connected and actually bring people to the
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  Speaker 1: table who are not just deserving, but have great ideas
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  Speaker 1: and can change this nonsense. Because you know, we've got
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  Speaker 1: a lot. We spend a trillion dollars a year. You
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  Speaker 1: know that, a trillion dollars a year defending defending ourselves, right,
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  Speaker 1: but look, we got people sleeping in the streets, kids
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  Speaker 1: going to school, hungry. You know, racial wealth gaps that
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  Speaker 1: are just disgusting. We have education gaps, we have housing gaps.
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  Speaker 1: We food and fuel are too expensive, and we're spending
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  Speaker 1: all this money around the world trying to keep us safe.
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  Speaker 1: We got people sleeping in the streets.
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  Speaker 3: So you know what, we got money for wall, we
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  Speaker 3: can't feed the poll.
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  Speaker 1: Bingo and I'm sick of it. And look at I
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  Speaker 1: you know, we're my dad's dog tag here. You know.
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  Speaker 1: He died in a helicopter crash in Vietnam and nineteen
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  Speaker 1: sixty nine, three days after we landed on the moon,
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  Speaker 1: you know. And and by the way, his helicopter was
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  Speaker 1: a total mosaic of America. A couple of black guys,
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  Speaker 1: a couple of Jewish guys, a couple of Italian guys,
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  Speaker 1: a Mexican American guy who wanted to be an American
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  Speaker 1: so bad he joined the US Army and had been
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  Speaker 1: naturalized as a US citizen in just weeks before he
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  Speaker 1: was killed.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, I think about all those soldiers then,
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  Speaker 1: you know, looking up at the moon and saying, my goodness,
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  Speaker 1: this is like America at its very very best and
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  Speaker 1: looking down at their boots and seeing us at our
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  Speaker 1: very very worst. You know, and we're still that country.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we can still go to the moon, or
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  Speaker 1: we can still be the country that's looking down at
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  Speaker 1: our boots. And I'm just I want to do the former.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that's crazy, You think the moonshot shouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: going to outer space. Let's take care of stuff right here.
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  Speaker 2: Oh got to say, that's crazy. My dad actually flew
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  Speaker 2: helicopters really and fax helicopters Vienna.
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  Speaker 1: No kidding, absolutely, Why is he still living? He's still
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  Speaker 1: laugh I'd love live seriously. I could just tell a
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  Speaker 1: little quick story. When I came home, I went to
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  Speaker 1: the craft site. Actually I think I just told you guys,
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  Speaker 1: and went to the place where you know, he was killed.
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  Speaker 1: And I for thirty years I was trying to find
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  Speaker 1: the one guy who was still alive from that She
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  Speaker 1: was the co pilot, guy named Tom Devereux. And I
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  Speaker 1: sent emails and I made phone calls, could never find him.
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  Speaker 1: And I just suspected, you know, suspected that he didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to connect because it's probably hard. And I came
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  Speaker 1: home that Today show did a little story about my
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  Speaker 1: trip to Vietnam, and through a strange twist of fate,
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  Speaker 1: I emailed that email address I had. I got a
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  Speaker 1: response this time, and it was Tom Devereux's wife saying,
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  Speaker 1: we want you to come to his eightieth birthday in Colorado.
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  Speaker 1: And I got to I traveled there and gave tom
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  Speaker 1: a hug, the one survivor from that helicopter crash, and
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  Speaker 1: he didn't want me to come for years because he
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  Speaker 1: didn't think I would want to be with him. And
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  Speaker 1: I told him that my dad would have wanted me
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  Speaker 1: to give him a hug. And that's kind of when
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  Speaker 1: you asked me what I want to do, that's what
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  Speaker 1: I want to do. You know, did y'all have time
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  Speaker 1: to hug it out?
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  Speaker 3: Did you have any conversations about like your father's last moment?
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  Speaker 1: So, you know, he said that, well, first of all,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he was he felt terrible. You know, he
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  Speaker 1: told me about the crash and said that he didn't
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  Speaker 1: know the guys in the back of the helicopter well
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  Speaker 1: because his job was to fly and their job was
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  Speaker 1: to do other stuff. And he didn't have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of memories. But that's not what mattered, you know. He
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  Speaker 1: was he's the only living person that was with my
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  Speaker 1: dad when my dad died. And it's kind of a
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  Speaker 1: it was a powerful moment, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, question, was there like an unwritten agreement in Washington
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  Speaker 3: that Biden was supposed to only run for one term?
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  Speaker 1: Such an example of Washington, You know, nobody ever says
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  Speaker 1: it straight, you know, imply and kind of nuance, and yeah,
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  Speaker 1: look at we all knew that he was going to
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  Speaker 1: serve one term. You know, he said it essentially, he implied,
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  Speaker 1: if not explicit, and look at, people can change their minds,
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  Speaker 1: and he did. I think he's doing himself in the
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  Speaker 1: country a huge disservice. But I can't say he told
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  Speaker 1: us specifically, I will serve one term. Don't tell anybody.
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  Speaker 1: But I think that's what we all expected. And that's
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  Speaker 1: what I'm disappointed because Democrats were disappointed that he was
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  Speaker 1: running again. But god forbid you actually get in front
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  Speaker 1: of the cameras and say it. You know, I torpedoed
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  Speaker 1: my career for doing just that, and so bid, someone's
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  Speaker 1: got to say it.
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you that, are you worried about
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  Speaker 3: the future of your political career after this? Do you
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  Speaker 3: have a future in politics after this?
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  Speaker 1: Not after becoming president? You know? Seriously? You know, well,
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  Speaker 1: I look at, well, we can talk a lot of stories,
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  Speaker 1: but I woke up the morning after the twenty sixteen election.
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  Speaker 1: I had a really nice life. You know. We had
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  Speaker 1: built belvid Or vodka and sold it and built tlenty
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  Speaker 1: gelato the ice cream brand and sold it.
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  Speaker 3: Oh had you were the one of the owner of
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  Speaker 3: the bellty of Oy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a great story to tell you on
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  Speaker 1: that one. If you want to hear.
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  Speaker 4: One dame and all it breaking down.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well, okay, I'll tell the Belvedere story. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: this is actually a good one. So in nineteen ninety three,
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  Speaker 1: my father and I and our business partner go to
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  Speaker 1: Poland because we think we can sell schnapps to the
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  Speaker 1: polls said you fathered you my father. Oh, so, my
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  Speaker 1: dad died in Vietnam. I was six months I'll tell
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  Speaker 1: you a quick story.
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  Speaker 4: I was.
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  Speaker 1: My dad was twenty six when he was killed. I
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  Speaker 1: was six months old. My mom was twenty four and widowed.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, my dad grew up poor in Minnesota.
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  Speaker 1: Dad his dad died my grandpa when he was a kid.
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  Speaker 1: He couldn't afford college. He earned an ROTC scholarship and
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  Speaker 1: that's why he went to Vietnam. So my mom was
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  Speaker 1: twenty four and widowed. We have no where to live,
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  Speaker 1: and we had to stay with my great grandparents for
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  Speaker 1: three years. And then I got lucky, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: got lucky. My mom remarried and when I was three
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  Speaker 1: years old, adopted by father named Eddi Phillips, brought me
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  Speaker 1: into an amazing family of success in philanthropy. My grandma
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  Speaker 1: was dear abby and my aunt yeah yeah, he brought
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  Speaker 1: some advice. You got some love learners, let me help
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  Speaker 1: you out. It's a whole nother story. And anyway, I
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  Speaker 1: got lucky and ended up joining the family business out
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  Speaker 1: of college, and we wanted to expand, so we went
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  Speaker 1: to Poland to try to sell some of our stuff.
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  Speaker 1: We made snops of all things. But we get to
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  Speaker 1: Poland and we see the most beautiful bottle we'd ever seen.
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  Speaker 1: It was Chopan vodka at the duty free store. And
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  Speaker 1: then we also discovered Belvitere, and we changed our whole
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  Speaker 1: trip to ask the Polish government if we could be
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  Speaker 1: the importers of this beautiful vodka. My dad, on the
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  Speaker 1: back of a napkin, looked at absolute and slowly the
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  Speaker 1: most beautiful brands of the time fifteen dollars a bottle,
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  Speaker 1: and he thought, you know, we can actually take it
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  Speaker 1: up a notch. You know. He liked the idea of
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  Speaker 1: when there's two big brands fighting each other, there's a
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  Speaker 1: way to go above him. So we did it, and
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  Speaker 1: the brand was introduced, and it didn't do that well
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  Speaker 1: at first. It was twenty five dollars. It was very expensive.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't have a lot of access to the market.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm getting ready one morning, it must have been
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  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven, a few years a couple of years in,
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  Speaker 1: and I've got MTV on, and I see a jay
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  Speaker 1: Z video where he's got belvidere. He's pouring it big pimping, right,
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  Speaker 1: that was big pimpin. I don't remember. I think it
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  Speaker 1: was pouring him on. People. You open the fridge, it's
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  Speaker 1: filled with Belvidere, and I literally I dropped my razor
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  Speaker 1: and I called, this is analog are? I called my father.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, Dad, turn on MTV. Of course he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: know what channel it was, so and I don't worry.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to play it ten times again today. Our
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  Speaker 1: whole business at that time, we had twenty people. We
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  Speaker 1: sat around the TV in our office waiting for that
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  Speaker 1: video to come back on. And I'm telling you it
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  Speaker 1: was a moment I'll never forget. The video comes on
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  Speaker 1: and we are just our jaws hit the floor because
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  Speaker 1: we knew everything was going to change. And sure enough,
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  Speaker 1: within a couple of weeks, you guys, I mean the
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  Speaker 1: orders started just pouring pouring in. Wow happens. Jay Z
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  Speaker 1: contacts my father and they have dinner in Manhattan, and
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  Speaker 1: the way it was described both by Jay Brown and
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  Speaker 1: my dad, Eddie Phillips as it was a beautiful dinner.
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  Speaker 1: And jay Z, as he often does, was soliciting advice
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  Speaker 1: and business counsel. And you might know jay Z introduced
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  Speaker 1: to vodka brand, you know that called Armadale. Remember that
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  Speaker 1: ye didn't do that well, but that was a result.
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  Speaker 1: I think of that experience, jay Z built Belvede or Vodka,
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  Speaker 1: and I think that was the first time maybe this
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  Speaker 1: whole country recognized that power of influencers back in an
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  Speaker 1: analog era.
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  Speaker 3: I remember, why didn't y'all give like, why didn't y'all
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  Speaker 3: just give them equity into the company.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't ask for it? Really, wow, wow, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think I think jay Z had his own. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: glad you say that, actually, Charlott Mane, because our family culture.
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  Speaker 1: My grandfather used to tell me all the time, he said,
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  Speaker 1: Dean money is like manure. You stack it up at stinks,
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  Speaker 1: but if you spread it out it fertilizes, so that
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  Speaker 1: was his whole culture and business. He established the first
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  Speaker 1: profit sharing program in America in the nineteen forties. We
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  Speaker 1: had secretaries retiring with seven figure, you know, retirement accounts.
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  Speaker 1: When we sold Belvidere, we shared it with our employees.
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  Speaker 1: When we sold to Lenty, we shared with employees because
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  Speaker 1: that's kind of the joy of business is to share.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't have an answer for you why we
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  Speaker 1: didn't share equity with him, But did.
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  Speaker 3: Y'all reach out to any other artists or even try
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  Speaker 3: to have a more long term partnership with them or.
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  Speaker 1: You know, we talked about that at the time and
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  Speaker 1: felt that the brand was predicated on authenticity, so rather
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  Speaker 1: than paying people to position it and market it, and
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  Speaker 1: you know, we just thought it was better to have
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  Speaker 1: an authentic brand. So I'm not going to say we've
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  Speaker 1: done that on every brand, but on Belvidere, it was
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  Speaker 1: about authenticity, so we let people adopt it, discover it themselves,
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  Speaker 1: and worked pretty well.
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  Speaker 3: Why do you think when it came to like Jay
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  Speaker 3: launching Armadale, it didn't have the same impact as Belvedere.
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  Speaker 3: Like him promoting Belvedere caused Belvede's, you know, stopped to
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  Speaker 3: shoot up. But why didn't it work for Amada?
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  Speaker 1: It's a good question. Well here I'll tell you the
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  Speaker 1: other story about Belvidere. So this is the analog era.
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  Speaker 1: We did not have a lot of money, but we
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  Speaker 1: had this belief that if we could find two hundred
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  Speaker 1: people in the US to be the early adopters, kind
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  Speaker 1: of the ambassadors, that we might just stand a chance.
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  Speaker 1: And we created a special box, sent it to two
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  Speaker 1: hundred people. You know, actors like Robert de Niro, I
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  Speaker 1: think Jay Z got one, you know, political leaders, business leaders,
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  Speaker 1: fashion leaders, all this stuff. And then we didn't add
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  Speaker 1: and they call the top right corner of page three
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  Speaker 1: of the Wall Street Journal the Tiffany sector the Tiffany spot,
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  Speaker 1: because Tiffany had owned it for years, because it's the
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  Speaker 1: when you open a newspaper, especially in the old days,
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  Speaker 1: your eyes always went to the top corner. Very expensive.
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  Speaker 1: We did an ad that had the picture of the
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  Speaker 1: distiller of Belvidere in Poland. His name was Bogdon Zelenski
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  Speaker 1: and there's a photo of him and it just said
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  Speaker 1: Bogdon Belvidere. Bogdon wants to know how you like it.
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  Speaker 1: There was no picture of the bottle that didn't say vodka,
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  Speaker 1: but the two hundred people that got that box, they
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  Speaker 1: were the only two hundred people that knew what that
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  Speaker 1: ad meant. And there's a little note in the box
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  Speaker 1: saying watch the newspaper that day. So what happens. Robert
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  Speaker 1: de Niro is at the I think the Peninsula Hotel
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  Speaker 1: in Beverly Hills and he orders a Belvidere Martini from
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  Speaker 1: the bartender. Bartender says, sorry, sir, we only have absolute
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  Speaker 1: and slowly he says, I don't think you understand. I
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  Speaker 1: want a Belvidere Martini. So the bartender sends like the
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  Speaker 1: bar back down the street to a bottle shop, finds
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  Speaker 1: a bottle of Belvedere, brings it back. The whole bar
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  Speaker 1: is watching this whole scene unfold, apparently, and de Niro
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  Speaker 1: gets his Belvedere Martini. Within weeks there the brand starts exploding.
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  Speaker 1: So what we did isn't really pay anybody, but we
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  Speaker 1: made people feel special, that they were unique. You know,
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  Speaker 1: they were one of just a handful, which is you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's the human condition. You know, we want to be heard,
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  Speaker 1: we want to be influential, we called it information one upsmanship.
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  Speaker 1: When you discover something a great song, a good artist,
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  Speaker 1: a great show, a movie, whatever it is, you like
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  Speaker 1: telling people about it, right because you want to be
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  Speaker 1: an influencer. I'man to look at you guys. That's kind
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  Speaker 1: of the nature of what we did with that brand.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I just always wonder how to these brand choose to
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: pay people who.
• 14:01
  Speaker 4: Help their brand back.
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: You know, I would think it would be to give
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: them some equity, but if not, like, what do you
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: just say thank you cinema?
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, well, first of all sharing equities. Well,
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: there's some other people that have I mean, the Shrock
• 14:13
  Speaker 1: story is a is a talk about a great success.
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: Right, Well, well let me go. Let me just I
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: don't I want to. I don't because you know our
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: hip hop purists day. I don't think it was big pimp,
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: but I think a big paper was Champagne, So I'll
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: find I don't have somebody find out what it was.
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: But let me talk about you asked about why Armadale
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: didn't do well. I think people sniff bullshit pretty easily,
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: and you know, Armadale was a conceived brand from Scotland.
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: You know, it didn't really you know, it was a
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: little bit of an odd notion, and I think that
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: was the difference for jay Z. Belvedere was legit. He
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: discovered it, he positioned it. It was authentic. You can tell, yeah,
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: when when an artist just intention now, like everybody's got
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: a tequila. Do you guys have a tequila?
• 14:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, you know what I mean. But you know everybody's
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: got a tequila right now after the first one. It's
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: kind of you know, everybody's doing it right. So I
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: think that's why it didn't work. It's got you know,
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: it's still got to be real. It doesn't matter if
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: you're the biggest name in the world. You know, if
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: people sniff through it, that's just not real. And that's
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: kind of authenticity rules.
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: If they would have asked, and it's my last question,
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: jay Z rober de Neil would have say, hey, I'll
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: keep promoting it, but I need some megady.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: Oh. I think I think if first of all, I can't,
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: I wasn't at the dinner. I don't know if jay
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: Z asked my dad, but if I had been running
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: the company at that moment in jay Z asked for
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: a steak in the brand darn right. Wow, darn right,
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: because when you own, by the way, what a great
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: segue do you talk about running for president? Ownership? When
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: you have a stake in something a home, you know,
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: a neighborhood, a business, right, anything, you know, you you
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: you you, you promote it, you you protect it, you know,
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: you nurture it, right, And that's the that's the beautiful
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: thing about ownership. My whole my whole premise for running
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: for president is until we spread out. Remember I talked
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: about money like manure. Until you spread it out, until
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: you give people a chance to own a little something.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: You don't have to own the whole thing. But the difference,
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: you know, when you when you have a stake in
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: a business, you know, you turn off the lights at
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: night and reuse paper clips and you don't throw away
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: the pens because every penny matters. You know, that's the story.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: Everybody needs a little ownership in something, and if you
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: don't own something, you act. And look, I'm gonna get
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: down to it. You know. I think about Gaza right now,
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: and I think about my life in Minneapolis and George Floyd,
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: that notion of you know, when people don't have anything
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: to protect, when they're just trying to defend themselves. Why
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: would we expect people to act any differently? Why do
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: we always mistake quiet for peace? You know what I mean?
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: That's kind of that to me, that there's a link
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: there to ownership. You know, if you don't own something,
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: you're not going to treat anybody or anything with respect.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: And I think we should start waking up to that.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: What got you into politics? Because obviously you're a great
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: business person. You talk about the jemadel you talk about
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: the Liqua Pennies coffee. So it's either that you know
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: something made you say I need this change, or you
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: got boreds like what got you into politics?
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you well, first of all, if nothing else,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: you can't say, I don't know what amant erkins like coffee, vodka,
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: n I'll tell you I was living a nice life
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: and I was really lucky, and I was watching the
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: twenty sixteen election with my family and I was just
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: I was blown away by what happened that night, you guys,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: and I just didn't conceive that that man could win,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: you know, I just didn't. And that's why this is
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: so consequential. Now we know what we're what we're risking. Anyway.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: I watched that election that night. My family literally was
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: just shocked. And I'm the kind of guy. I'm an optimist,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm just wired that way. And I told
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: my family, like, you know, give him a chance. You know,
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: like he's the newly elected president. You know the White
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: House is going to moderate him and keep him in check.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Of course I was wrong, but I'll tell you. I
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: woke up the next morning and the first thing I
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: heard was my daughter, who was sixteen, crying in her bedroom.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: And she had just recovered from cancer. She had Hodgkins
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: lymphoma as a young teen. And she's a gay woman,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: and I didn't know that at the time, but she
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: was in tears, and I looked in her eyes and
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: I saw as her dad something I'd never seen before,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: like a fear of being an American in the future.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: And I know a lot of kids wake up that
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: way every day in this country, but it really affected me,
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: and I had a moment. I sat at the breakfast
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: table with my two daughters wanted college through FaceTime, and
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: I promised them I would do something. I had to
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: do something. I just couldn't watch this, and I decided
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: I'd run for Congress. I talked to some friends and
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: people who I respect. They all said I was crazy
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: out of my mind at torpedo my career. I'm going
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: to lose. So I did it. And what they didn't
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: The reason they thought I'd lose is I was running
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: in a district, this suburban district in Minneapolis that had
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: not elected a Democrat since nineteen fifty eight. And that's
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: how deep read it was. And the guy that won
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, the Republican, he won by fourteen points.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: So people thought I was nuts and I had to
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: do it, and I did and we won, beat the
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: guy by twelve points.
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: And we did it with the most simple strategy you
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: can imagine, invitation instead of confrontation. And the biggest issue
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: with politics is that people who grew up in politics
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: think that by demeaning and diminishing and ignoring and yelling
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: at fifty percent of the country that you can succeed.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: And when I'm in business, I don't know how you
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: can succeed if you call your customers idiots or deplorables
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: or jerks or morons, you know, And that's how politicians operate.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: So I invited people. I didn't care their politics, I
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: care about their principles, and we won and that's why
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: I did it. And I you know, it was a moment.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: We all have those moments, you know, either stand up
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: or your shush up and sit down. My party wants
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: me to shush up and sit down. But it's funny
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: because my party at that day in twenty sixteen, the
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: day after the election, party, my party wanted me to
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: stand the heck up, And now they're telling me to
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: sit down. You know, that's the problem.
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: I find interest in.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: Joe Biden said, he said himself that he thinks that
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: at least fifty other Democrats could beat Trump. So with
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: that said, why don't more people primary him? Why why
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: didn't people take that at an invitation?
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you, Charlott mane because nobody, nobody wants to
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: go through what I'm going through right now, which is
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: the most vicious, atrocious, aggressive attacks you can possibly imagine.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: And now I say, oh yeah, man, I mean, I
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: mean it's aggressive. I mean two months ago I was
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: a darling and the Democratic Party and now I'm the devil.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: And I knew that. And by the way, I knew
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: that I knew what I was getting into. But you
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: asked the question, why don't others do it? Well, most
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: people don't want to be subject to it. Most people
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: want to protect their image and their future and their
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: their career. And that's why you have all these sheep
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: in Washington falling in line, constantly saying the same thing
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: based on the talking points, because they don't want to
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: do anything to hurt the next chance to be reelected.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: So when I did this, I knew my career in
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Congress was done, and it is. And when I called
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: other candidates whose names are much better known than me,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: they all said basically, they said no because they knew
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: what they would be subject to. And I just wish
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: more people had the courage to stand up right now.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: And I'm disappointed.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: So why don't they When I think about stuff like that,
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: why don't they go after the Joe Mansions and the
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: Christian Cinema?
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: Is the way you're doing?
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Meaning like, when Joe Mansion in Christian Cinema was blocking
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: progress and blocking his agenda, are they threatening them like
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: that behind the scenes?
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: I sure doesn't seem like it. By the way, all
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I'm doing is practicing democracy. You guys. I mean, you know,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: this country was founded on the notion that we would
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: not have coron nations. You know that we would have elections,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: that we would practice democracy, and damn sometimes we do it. Okay,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: most of the time we don't. But it's really concerning
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: that we have two parties right now. By the way,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: George Washington involved people warned us against factions. He warned
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: us two hundred and some years ago that this experiment
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: would fail if we allowed factions political parties to take over.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: And they have. And that's part of the system because
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: you know, when you are when something's at risk, you
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: need to make your case. This is what Trump did
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: to everybody in the Republican Party, right. You know, if
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: you so much as whispered something bad about him, he
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: would crush you, which is why the right he would
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: crush it. Well, what do you think democrats? Don't think
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Democrats operate the same way, just behind the scenes, behind
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: the scenes, trying to crush And that's the way.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: I would love if they did it upfront, like if
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: they if the way Trump calls out people in his party,
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: if Biden did that, demagin the cinema at least we
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: see them fighting.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all I want to have You ever seen
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Biden fight you? First of all, I mean he's a
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: good man, he's eighty one years old. But you know
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: he's not here today, He's not He doesn't He won't
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: even take my calls. I called him twice just to
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: be I think it's the right thing to do when
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: you when you challenge somebody, you're going to say something
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: about somebody, you know, be a man. Call him right,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: And I did, And he doesn't even want to take
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: my calls. I wish you would stand up in front
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: of the microphones and express himself. I wish you would.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: I wish you would debate me. I mean, how the
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: heck in this country in the twenty first century can
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: you go through a campaign and not debate, not show up,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: not ask answer questions? You know, I mean, come on, guys,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: what's going on?
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: You know Biden that he said that Trump is the
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: end of democracy as we know it, which I agree with.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: But isn't him skipping out on the lack of democracy too?
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Thanks for saying it, Thanks for just saying the quiet
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: part out loud. Seriously, Charlemagne, man, that's exactly what I'm
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: trying to say, how can Democrats say we're fighting for democracy,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: we're fighting to make voting easier, and then yet removing
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: me from the ballot in Florida and North Carolina. How
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: can you say you are for free speech and protecting
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: freedom and democracy and not even consent to doing one debate? Now,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: how can you say this? How can you say to
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Right now they're saying this to voters in New Hampshire
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: that their vote doesn't count, that this is a meaningless primary.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: And it's true, by the way, Democratic voters in Florida,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: North Carolina and New Hampshire, their votes don't count because
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: in two states there isn't going to be a Democratic
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: primary and the other state there is, and their votes
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: aren't going to matter. And this is the United States
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: of America. So look, I was in the House Chamber
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: on January sixth. I know what an insurrection is like,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: I know who inspired it and who promoted it. And now, frankly,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Democrats are doing something to democracy that I think is
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: just as dangerous as the insurrection because at the end
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: of the day, one was to prevent the counting of ballots,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: and right now the Democratic Party is literally trying to
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: prevent names from being added to ballots and people from
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: even voting on those ballots. So that's the truth, and
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: they don't want to hear it. They don't want me
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: to say it. But guys, man, someone's got to listen.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: This isn't noodle. I mean, they kind of did the
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: same thing to Bernie until he's sixteen. Right.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: In fact, I had to apologize to Bernie. I've had
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I have, I tell you, guys, in the last five years,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: it's living a whole lifetime. I used to think Bernie
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Sanders was a sore loser. I'm inconsequential and now that
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: I'm going through the same thing this maybe I wish
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: everybody would go through life like this. You know, I'm
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: going through the same thing. And now I discovered he
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: was right, and I did a tweet. I apologize to
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: him because Mary Anne Williamson, by the way, I want
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: to talk about her. She's a real person of courage.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: You know. We gotta love for Mary and she comes
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: up here. She's not here quite a lot it, man,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: she you know she doesn't. First of all, MSNBC has
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: not extended a single invitation to me in the last
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: two months, despite being a sitting member of Congress, a
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: member of a former member of House leadership and the like.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: You know, we can't find platform. And I want to
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: salute her courage too. She's in the race. She's shown
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: up right. We had a debate the other day. We're
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: having one tomorrow on News Nation. I just wish more
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: people would show up and speak the truth. We have
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: a lot of people working to keep us from the truth,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: and I'm really sick of it. And if my mission
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: in life is to say the quiet part out loud,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: so be it. Now.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: I'm got a question, So, why why a Democrat over
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: Republican right? Because most I don't want to say most people,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: but a lot of people in your position, who has
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: a net worth of rich why.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Trying to say, just come on, just say it.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Hundreds of million dollars again? You know your slogan is
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: making America affordable Again. People look at you and say, well,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: why not Republican right? Because usually Democrats have high taxes
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: and attack people like yourself that make hundreds of millions
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: of dollars because they want more money for the people
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: to afford, and that will be cutting into a lot
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: of the profits that you make. And you are such
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: a successful business person with all the companies that we name.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: So why Democrat?
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: So look, I've never walked in your shoes, and you
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: guys not in mind. But the place I come from, Minneapolis,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: has a really dark history and it really informs who
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I am and what I believe. And in the nineteen forties,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Minneapolis was one of the most anti Semitic and racist
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: cities in America. You wouldn't have known it, and it
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: took a young mayor named Hubert Humphrey who was in
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: his twenties, to call attention to it and set up
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: a civil rights commission. Back in the nineteen forties, Minneapolis
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: hospitals would not allow Jewish physicians to practice on their staff.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: They wouldn't allow black physicians. If you were black, Jewish,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: or Greek, you had to prepay your hospital bill in Minneapolis.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: This is in post war Minneapolis, and my family became
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: very deeply engaged in trying to correct these wrongs. The
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Black community in Minneapolis right now, for the most part,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: lives in North Minneapolis. That's where the Jewish community had
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: to live. Why because of redlining. It was a very
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: kind of a shared history. And why I'm a Democrat
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Because I saw firsthand, and I come from a place
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: which there was such extraordinary injustice, and a Democrat is
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: the one against all odds. A white man named Hubert
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Humphrey is the first one to do something about it.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: And have you guys heard his speech at the nineteen
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: forty eight please everybody listening, Hubert Hubert H. Humphrey, nineteen
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: forty eight Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia. This is when
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: strom Thurmond and all those racist Democrats from the South
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Dixiecrats showed up to the convention. This young mayor from
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Minneapolis gets up on the stage, knowing that he might
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: torpedo his career, and he says to the Democrats gathered there,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: it's time for Democrats to get out of the shadows
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: of states rights and into the bright sunshine of human rights.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: And I think it's hard to not recognize that that
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: was the moment that actually started giving permission to Democrats
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: to move into the civil rights era. And it's not
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: well known. There's I don't think there's video of it.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: That may be why people don't know about it, but
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I think it was the one of the most important
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: speeches of the modern era because half of that audience
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: walked out of the arena that day, and I come
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: from that place, and that's why I'm so proud to
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: be a Democrat. Hubert Humphrey also said the moral test
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: of a government is how it treats those in the
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: dawn of life, the dusk of life, and the shadows
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: of life. And I just think it's our responsibility, especially
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: those of us who have been really lucky and fortunate
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: and have had the blessings of this country, have to
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: do something to make it the same for others. Why
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: should I be in this position just because I got lucky?
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: You know? Why if you're just born in a certain
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: zip code, does that dictate where your zip code when
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: you end your life will be. You know, It's just
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: it's not right. And I'm just sorry about the Democratic
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Party making all these promises and talking up a game
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: that they never seem to really fulfill and never get
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: to it when we have the chance, and we I
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: was back away from the bold notions that we talk about,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: and I don't know. I just feel I have a
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: calling right now to reimagine, reinvent, relieve and reinspire people.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: And that's why I'm a Democrat. It's not about protecting
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: my money. It's about sharing more with people so they
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: can have the same damn chance I had. That's what
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: it's about.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: I know you always talk about wanting to repair our
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: broken government. Can you really repair its government if we
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: don't get ready to fill a.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Buster probably not.
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: First of all, here, look we have two issues. One
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: is the executive branch. I'm running to be an I'm
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: a much better executive than I am a legislator. And
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: the answer to the question about the executive branch, darn right,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: we can reimagine that. You know, when I'm president, we'll
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: have a bipartisan cabinet. It's not going to be just
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: a bunch of politicians. I want the best and brightest.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: I want new positions. I want to fill that White
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: House with extraordinary thinkers, you know. I want to have
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: a youth cabinet. I want to have young people from
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: every state in the country who are sharing ideas with
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: the president. I'm going to have common ground dinners in
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: the White House. Not the black tie affairs for celebrities
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: and heads of state, which we'll do too, but every
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: month I'm going to have a dinner with just averaged,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: everyday normal Americans. From all around the country to sit
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: casually with their president and have dinner. We're going to
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: do it differently in the Congress now. The film buster
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: is a total construct of Democrats and Republicans making their
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: own rules. It's not constitutional. It's not something that we
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: have to do. We are a majority country, right, the
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: majority should rule, but the minority should have rights right
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: when it comes to politics, and no, I think the
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: filibuster should be eliminated. And I think we should have
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: term limits. I think we need term limits in the
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Supreme Court for members of Congress. We have too many
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: people who are just there to stick around. And by
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: the way, if you're all you're doing is protecting your position,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: of course you're not going to be helping many people
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: because if you do, you're taking risks, and nobody wants
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: to take risks in Washington. And that's a big part
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: of the problem. It's a really broken system.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: What would you say to people who say you're running
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: a pointless campaign?
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Huh? I just wish those people could come along with
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: me for just one day and hear the stories and
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: meet the people and see what I'm seeing, you know,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: because if this is pointless, boy, I'm aghast, you know,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: because this is the most beautiful experience I've ever had
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: in my life. It's the most exciting, joyful, the most heartbreaking,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: the most inspiring, you know, the most soul searching, you know.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: And if you think this is pointless, or you think
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: I'm a buffoon or a fool or don't have a chance, hey,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: you know, this is a nation of long shots. And
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: I don't care where you come from this country. Anybody
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: can do it. And if I can, just if I
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: can inspire one person to give something a shot, or
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: to take that jump or do the unthinkable, stand up
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: and have a little bit of courage. I didn't think
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: this would be me, you know. Five years ago, I
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: thought i'd be running my coffee shops, you know, being
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: a dad and thinking about where I wanted to spend
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: my last chapter. Right and here I am. And I
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: don't know why we're putting these positions, but if you
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: don't seize the moment, shame on you. And I don't
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: see anybody seizing the moment. That's why if you call
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: it pointless, say more power to you. But I'm going
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: to keep on keeping on.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: You did an event in New Hampshire one is it
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: not one person showed up?
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like that one literally, Well, here's the
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: funny this is I'm so glad you bring that up
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: because Twitter, you know, we have so we have all
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: we have about probably six or seven young reporters that
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: follow me around and in the cold, and they bring
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: their cameras and it's a tough job, right and we
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: I was speaking at a college convention at a hotel
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: in Manchester, New Hampshire. So I have a nineteen sixty
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: International Harvester metro van. We call it the Government repair
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: truck and that's what I drive around and I serve coffee.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: This is my way to get people come up and
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: say hi. And we simply brought some coffee outside. We
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: parked the truck in front of the hotel because we
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: thought these kids were going to come on buck When
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: I say kids, college students were going to come on buses,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: and I thought it'd be nice to give them a
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: cup of coffee right in the morning. Well, little did
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: we know that the buses or cars parked in the
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: garage and they came in through another entrance. So I
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: was just sitting out there alone. But these reporters know
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: that if they can make me look you know, like
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: lonely or sad or like you know, nobody's shown up.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: That that's their viral opportunity. So guy posts it gets
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: like four million views on that post, and then an
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: hour later he posted a picture of me playing bingo
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: at a retirement center.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: I saw that picture.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that got about four thousand views. The one
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: of me sitting in my coffee truck, you know, with
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: nobody coming up to it got four million views. What
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: does that say? Think about it? What does that say?
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: We are rewarding snark. You know, we're not rewarding sweet.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: We're not rewarding sweet. So, yeah, nobody showed up. And
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: you know what, that happens. A lot happens a lot,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: so be it. Some days you got hundreds of people,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: some days nobody shows up. You got to keep going, man,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: you know, you gotta keep going. And anyway, but that's
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: how that stuff kind of works.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: Do you think debates when between candidates when Biden or
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Trump isn't there, you think those are pointless? Because you
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: know you and Mary Ann Williamson debated in New Hampshire
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: on Monday. Nikki and Ron de sand just debated yesterday.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: But it's like, why y'all going at each other like
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: the big fish aren't even here?
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Wey, you got you gotta do something. I mean, they
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: want us to not debate, they want us to just
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: go away. You know. I say, let's run to the fire,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: let's stop it. Let's not turn it over to them,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: because they are the ones that are doing an injustice.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Joe Biden is not serving democracy by doing this. Donald
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Trump certainly not serving democracy. I really give credit to
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: people who are willing to get on that stage when
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: you only got f Look, I think I'm at like
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: two or three percent in the polls. No one knows.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: The best thing about not being known is two thirds
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: of the country doesn't hate me yet, you know. So
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: I'm out there pounding the pavement. If mary An Williamson
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: and I didn't do this, there would not be anything
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: on TV about Democrats at all. Right now, we'd be
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: handing it over only the GOP every single night doing
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: their debates. I wish these guys were debating even just once.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: How is it even reasonable that they can't? So, I
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: don't have an answer for you, Charlemagne. I think it's ridiculous.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: But we're going to keep debating. We do it in
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: a very friendly way because we are respectful. People with
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: dignity want to call attention to the issues. And if
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: we we're going to keep doing it. And if people
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: I'll start showing up, that's great.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: Is Biden's name even all the debates? Because I read
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: in Michigan they're doing a Democratic primary debate. And if
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: I thought I read correctly, I thought it said you
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: President Biden and Mary Anne Wims.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Or I haven't read that.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: Maybe I'm trivin out.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: I hope, boy, I hope so, because I think he
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: has If there is an article Yesterd're in the Washington
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Post that said that Joe Biden is gathering small groups
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: of his wealthy donors in the White House to give
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: them confidence in his abilities because they're worried. And I
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: thought to myself, well, if he's doing that privately in
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: the White House, why not show up in debate. Why
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: not show the country the same thing. Right, if you've
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: got it and you're ready to go, come up and debate, right,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: answer questions, hold press conferences. He won't do any of
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: those things. I did not. I don't think he's debating.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe this is old.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: It's a secretary of.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Maybe from twenty twenty.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: Twenty three, Secretary Jocelyn Benson released the twenty twenty four
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: presidential primary candidate list, as required by Michigan law, and
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: it says the Democratic Party it was you, Joe Biden.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: That's just the people that'll be on the ballot. No,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: he should debate, guys, he should debate, just at least once,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: for goodness sakes. I don't understand any of this nonsense.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: But you know you don't. Look, I've been in this
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: business only for six years. I know the game. You
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: don't want. The only reason you don't debate is because
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: you don't want to give platform to your opponent and
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: you're worried. You know, if you're strong, you're confident, you know,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: why wouldn't you debate. The only times you don't do
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: it is if you are not confident. Joe Biden and
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump are not confident men right now. Let me
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: assure you. That's the only reason they're not shown up
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: because they know if they got on that stage, it
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be easy for him.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: What happens to the America if Biden loses a Trump?
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: No hyperbole, no exaggeration, What do you think happened to
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: the America? I Biden loses the Trump.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: Look at it.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: We've become so used to this notion that democracy is
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: at risk. Well, let me tell you. I was in
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: the House Chamber on January. I watched that speech that
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Trump inspired the insurrection, call it whatever the heck you want,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: a riot, an insurrection, a mob. I was there, and
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I was in the White House with Trump. I sat
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: across the table with him. Here's what's going to happen.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: In his first term. He was able to attract some
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: people of integrity. And I say that having worked with
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: some of them. I passed a bill that he signed
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: into law. He had staff that I really respect. In fact,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: I respect more to this day because I know that
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: they torpedoed their careers by serving our country and serving
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: in that administration. Turn up the clock to now. The
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: man is on a revenge tour. The man will not
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: be able to attract anybody of integrity, mark my words.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: And he is on a mission to literally destroy every
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: single institution of democracy. How do you destroy institutions of democracy?
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: You depopulate them. Everybody of integrity, of competency, who's serving
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: right now our government. By the way, they work really
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: hard and they make very little money, and it's not
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: an easy job. We're going to loose use a lot
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: of them. And when you lose them, they're either going
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: to be replaced with people who are sick offense of
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump or with people who are incompetent. And as
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: he will methodically destroy these institutions, we will no longer
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: have that foundation, mark my words. And that's what's at risk.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: And he's, by the way, not just at risk. He's
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: going to win if it's Joe Biden at the top
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: of the ticket. The whole reason I'm trying to issue
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: this wake up call to Democrats who are being deluded
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: by the Democratic Party is he is going to lose.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Young people in America now favor Donald Trump. Hispanic Americans,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Latino Americans favor Donald Trump. Eighty three percent of Democrats
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: under thirty want a different nominee. The Iowa youth poll
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: came out yesterday. Donald Trump got the most votes of anybody,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: followed by Marian Williamson and me. Joe Biden came in
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: fourth place in amongst Iowa youth. They could think about
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: that the sitting president of the United States, he is
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: in deep trouble. He's losing in all the battleground states.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: His approval numbers are the lowest in that think American history.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: And you know what's going on in the black community.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, why don't we wake up. Why wouldn't we
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: have a competition. Why wouldn't the Democratic Party want to
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: have a competition.
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: It's very weird.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, why, It's very simple. When you are connected
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: to power and privilege and prestige, you want to protect
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: it and anything that might disrupt it is a threat.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: It's not about people, it's about the protection of privilege.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: Speaking of people, you talked about Trump destroying institutions. How
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: to those institutions being destroyed impact us as American citizens?
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we know. I think they're well. I think half
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: the country right now feels that if we destroy these institutions,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: maybe it's a good thing. Yeah, right, No, absolutely, And
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: I have to tell you, you know, I have great animists
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: towards Donald Trump. I do not have animists towards people
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: who support him, because I think there I understand their anger.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Democrats have completely completely turned away from rural Americans. I
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: think the promise to black Americans that it's never been fulfilled.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: I understand why people are anger and pissed off work
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: with the very people who are so much more focused
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: on just sticking around than sticking it to a system
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: that isn't working. Right. So that's a really provocative question.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: I think that's what's going on right now, Charlemagne, is
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: that there's a belief in this country that maybe it
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: is time to tear everything down rather than reimagine it,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: maybe reinvent it, maybe replace some of it. I'd like
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: to spread out, by the way, I think the federal
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: government should be located all around this country. I think
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: we should have maybe the egg Department somewhere in Kansas, right,
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: maybe the Commerce Department out in California, right, bring something
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: up to New York. Let's spread it out, right. But
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: I don't think tearing it down is the answer. Democracy
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: is fragile and it only works that people participate. And
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: I think we're in an era now where the lack
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: of participation both voters, candidates, public servants is going to
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: be really, really challenging, and I'm really worried. But I
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: think your question is one that we should all be
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: thinking about.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because we have these discussions, we always talk about
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: you know what these issues will do as far as
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: the election is concerned, and this is going to cause
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: this person to lose, that person to lose if this
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: person gets in, they'll tear down institutions. Well what does
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: that mean for us the people? Because like you said,
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: these people like that, it's like tear it down. I
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: don't like that bi anyway, or I don't like diar.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: I gotta tell you that you just you really provoked me,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: because it's another reason I'm doing this if I feel
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: this is one of our last chances to really demonstrate
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: that we can do this, and it's going to take
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: a very different approach. It can't be one party or
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: the other, just fifty percent of the country trying to
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: get it done if we really don't find some way
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: to work together. Abraham Lincoln had his team of rivals.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: You know, he literally invited his arch rivals to sit
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: at the table with him. Most brilliant move in American leadership,
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I think literally maybe in human history, to invite your
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: biggest adversaries to sit at your table. That's exactly what
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: we need right now, because if you don't see yourself
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: represented in that White House. When I say everybody should
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: see themselves represent in that White House. We're going to fail.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: And here's the other thing about Trump. He's watched President
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: she he's watched Vladimir Putin basically become presidents for life.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: You don't think, you don't think, come twenty twenty eight,
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: he's going to say, you know what, I think I'm
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: going to stick around another four.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: Years saying that.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Of course, of course, of course that's what's going to happen,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: and talk about the end of democracy. What better represents
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: the end of democracy than someone who says I'm going
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: to forego the basics of American democracy.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: What could the Biden administration do to energize people and
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: reverse what we've seen we've been seeing in the polls,
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: if anything, And when I say administration, I mean him
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: and the vice president, Well.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: If they even can.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Envy, I think you just hit the nail on the head.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: I've been in I've been in the consumer products business
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: pretty much my whole life, and marketing and packaging, right,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: you know, I know when a product it's kind of
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: reached the end of its kind of life cycle, when
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: people have kind of moved on. People have moved on,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: and by the way, The truth is this, people have
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: moved on from both these guys.
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, they're.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: Really you know, my sense of listening to people is
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: that people are really ready to turn the page. It's
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: not just age, it's not just these two specific men.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: It's really like there's this yearning to like, let's let's
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: do something new, right, let's get back to it, you know,
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: I let's feel excited again and that things might be possible.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Everything is so heavy, it's heavy for everybody, and that
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: to me is the great opportunity. You know, let's let's
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: let's use this. Mike. I had a grandmother that used
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: to say, and my father too, Dean, you got to
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: turn chicken shit into chicken salad. And I think this
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: is the chicken shit that we got to turn into
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: chicken salad. And I don't think there's anything Joe Biden
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: can do to change this. To be honest with you,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: I think it is fully baked. We live in an
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: arrow is once once your brand is hardened, it's really
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: hard to change. He might say, well, we've got ninety
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: million dollars, and you know, at the end of the day,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: people are going to see it's democracy versus you know, authoritarianism.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: How tired is everybody of just trying to vote for
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  Speaker 1: the lesser of two evils?
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  Speaker 4: You know?
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: How cool? They maybe get excited again about good you know,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: some good stuff, and that's my hope. But boy, you guys,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: when only like fifteen percent of Americans turn out and
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: vote in primary elections, we don't have the right then
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: to get upset in a general election. So I hope
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: everyone listening right now. If you really want to, if
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: you want to give this one more, try go out
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: and vote in the primary and shake it up. Because
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: the parties don't want you to vote in the primary.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: They want to coordinate, these guys. But you still have
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: the power and this literally might be the last time
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: you can literally use your vote and be powerful. And
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: it's true, you know, it's just true. So please vote
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  Speaker 1: and let us try to change this nonsense.
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  Speaker 4: How do people donate the your campaign.
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  Speaker 1: Dan twenty four dot com? And I don't consider it
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: a donation. I consider it an investment. You know, I
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: talked about ownership. I want you to own a part
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  Speaker 1: of this campaign. You know. I don't want just your money.
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  Speaker 1: I want your ideas, I want your time, I want
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: your energy, I want your your commitment. I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care your race, your religion, your geography, your politics.
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  Speaker 1: You know. I love everybody, man, and I'm really concerned
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: about parties that are trying to tell us otherwise. I'm
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: tired of entertainment telling us that we're more divided than
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: we really are. So Dan twenty four dot com, if
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: you got five bucks, ten bucks, that's awesome, But more
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  Speaker 1: than that, help me spread the word, you know, post
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  Speaker 1: something on social media, you know, get people to kind
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: of mobilize and share your ideas. You know, I don't
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: know it all. I got a lot to learn.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: Question the last question, did you ever go to your
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: miss Abbey for advice?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? Yes, I went. Now, well, this is going to
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: surprise you. She came to me and my brother more
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: for advice because she was really when she died. I
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: got her old school rolodex, you know. And what was
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: so interesting about her She would answer every letter. Her
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: team would answer every letter that was sent in. And
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: she didn't have This is me too. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: all the answers. But when I don't know an answer,
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: I go to someone who does right. And she did
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: the same thing. She had a Rolodex for every single
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: topic you could imagine. Wow, she got letters from high
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: school kids particularly. She would send them to my brother
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  Speaker 1: and me to get a sense of stuff, you know,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: what's going on in high school in nineteen eighty three. Right. Yeah,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: So her advice was, you know, when you don't know
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  Speaker 1: the answer, find someone who does.
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  Speaker 3: I wonder if a columnist could ever be that famous again,
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  Speaker 3: Like I literally just no Dear Abbey from the newspapers,
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: just no.
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  Speaker 1: Dear Abbey, because that well, that was the only the
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: newspaper was totally matt. You know, you grew up somewhere
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: and you didn't have anyone to talk to. You didn't
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: have anyone to go to. They were the people you
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: wrote because you'd get an answer from them. Yeah, and
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: that was in the analog era. You know, I don't
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: answer your question. I don't think we're gonna have a
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: columnist like that anytime.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: Well even a blogger, like even somebody just doing that online.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: I don't know if that could.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: You know, look at Dear Abby. I would argue that
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  Speaker 1: Google is now.
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  Speaker 3: Dear Acta.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: It is a million dear Abbeys. Now you got a
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: problem to google it, right, instead of go to it.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: And by the way, that's I think. There's a book
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: called Future Shock written by Alvin Toffler in nineteen seventy.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: He said that technology is going to go so fast
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: that humans will never be able to catch up. And
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: in a way the fact that has replaced your abbey
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: as part of our big problem. People are going to
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: screens instead of going to each other. Let's come back
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: to each other. All right.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Well, there you have it, as deanies and gentlemen, and
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: it was give it to you, give it to me,
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: give me that phone, that the jay Z I.
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  Speaker 4: Want to love you.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: I want to love you.
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: I want to love you.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Hey, that's a good that's a good way to end this. Yeah,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: so there goes right, there's Dean Phillips.
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  Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 4: Good morning, thank you.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: The Breakfast Club.