Latest / Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families / #561 I'll Do Better Tomorrow
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- 0:01Speaker 1: It's their happy Famili's Podcat. Minions was the worst movie ever,
- 0:08Speaker 1: but parents are still taking their kids to see Minions
- 0:10Speaker 1: over light Year and now here's the stars of our show,
- 0:16Speaker 1: my mum and dad. Hello, this is doctor Justin Coulson,
- 0:20Speaker 1: the founder of Happy Families dot com dot You snuck
- 0:23Speaker 1: away to Adelaide this week. I'm feeling like a good
- 0:25Speaker 1: parent because I came home with some Haigus chocolate.
- 0:28Speaker 2: How is that a good parent?
- 0:30Speaker 1: Not sponsored? Not sponsored? But if you haven't tried Haig's
- 0:34Speaker 1: chocolate yet, be prepared. Number One, you're going to pay
- 0:36Speaker 1: a fortune for it. It's crazy how expensive it is.
- 0:39Speaker 1: But number two, well, the reason I bought it, it's
- 0:42Speaker 1: so incredibly good. The kids said, you're going to Adelaide,
- 0:45Speaker 1: does that mean you're coming home with Haigs. I've kind
- 0:47Speaker 1: of created a bit of a tradition. I call in
- 0:50Speaker 1: at the shop in Rundle Mall on the corner there
- 0:53Speaker 1: of King William and right.
- 0:54Speaker 2: I do notice that every time you go to Adelaide,
- 0:55Speaker 2: you happen to stay in a hotel that's within it.
- 0:59Speaker 2: Miniscule amount of meat is away from the Haigues chocolate factory.
- 1:04Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. So I feel like
- 1:06Speaker 1: I'm a good dad this week because I've come home
- 1:07Speaker 1: with some Haigus and the kids love me.
- 1:09Speaker 2: The same dad who says we're going off sugar starting today.
- 1:14Speaker 1: Except when I've been to Adelaide and I've been to Haigs.
- 1:18Speaker 2: You're making our kids a bit of you know, chocolate,
- 1:20Speaker 2: chocolate because they won't eat cabri anymore.
- 1:23Speaker 1: They will They will eat anything. Have you have you
- 1:26Speaker 1: put chocolate in front of them and seen what they do?
- 1:28Speaker 1: My goodness, it's I'll do but it tomorrow today. My
- 1:31Speaker 1: name's doctor. Justin course, I'm here with Kylie, my wife.
- 1:33Speaker 2: Be better tomorrow. You're not going to buy any more chocolate?
- 1:36Speaker 1: Can you just let me do the podcast? Stop talking
- 1:39Speaker 1: about the chocolate. I have a stash of chocolate here
- 1:42Speaker 1: in the office, and Kylie's just pointed out and gone,
- 1:45Speaker 1: what are you going to do with that? You can't
- 1:46Speaker 1: leave that here. I'm like, see if I'm going to
- 1:47Speaker 1: take it home, everyone's going to eat it there. I
- 1:49Speaker 1: can be disciplined, I can hold on.
- 1:52Speaker 2: What you can be disciplined and not sharing.
- 1:55Speaker 1: I can be very very careful. Hey, We've had a
- 1:57Speaker 1: lot of feedback in relation to the podcast few weeks
- 2:00Speaker 1: more than we can possibly read. Thank you so much
- 2:03Speaker 1: for emailing as podcasts at happy families dot com dot
- 2:06Speaker 1: you podcasts with an s at happy families dot com
- 2:08Speaker 1: dot you. Last Friday, I was pretty down, wasn't I
- 2:13Speaker 1: pretty dejected? The kids had done me in. I was finished.
- 2:17Speaker 1: I was ready to quit, hang up the towel, just
- 2:20Speaker 1: walk away from parenting. And I wasn't seeking any kind
- 2:23Speaker 1: of support or anything like that. I knew I'd be okay.
- 2:25Speaker 1: But a couple of emails came through, Kylie. Here's the
- 2:28Speaker 1: first one. I justin listen to your Friday I'll Do
- 2:30Speaker 1: Better Tomorrow podcast and just wanted to write to say
- 2:33Speaker 1: that I have a similar sort of job to you.
- 2:35Speaker 1: I'm a family support worker, so I spend my days
- 2:37Speaker 1: walking alongside parents who are having a tough time and
- 2:40Speaker 1: running parenting courses and workshops where I'm supposed to be
- 2:43Speaker 1: the expert. I also have children age ten and thirteen.
- 2:48Speaker 1: I felt that feeling of this is what I do
- 2:50Speaker 1: for a living, so I should be great at it
- 2:51Speaker 1: all the time. So I just want to say, You're
- 2:53Speaker 1: allowed to have bad days too, You're allowed to make mistakes.
- 2:55Speaker 1: Kylie's onto something when she says, find a friend, not
- 2:57Speaker 1: your partner, who will let you make mistakes. I'd be
- 3:00Speaker 1: lost without my colleagues. Thanks for sharing your stories so generously,
- 3:04Speaker 1: And someone else said, appreciate Justin's words on is I'll
- 3:06Speaker 1: do better tomorrow, send your remote internet thoughts from a
- 3:09Speaker 1: stranger and acknowledge that you are seen and heard. It's
- 3:12Speaker 1: company to hear the reality that we don't want to
- 3:13Speaker 1: admit to as dads and mums who love their kids,
- 3:16Speaker 1: but sometimes everything just sucks. All the best love your podcasts.
- 3:19Speaker 1: So I wanted to highlight that because while we weren't
- 3:21Speaker 1: seeking any kind of validation or anyone reaching out and
- 3:25Speaker 1: saying we get it, it's hard, we support you, it
- 3:27Speaker 1: was still nice to get a couple of messages come through.
- 3:30Speaker 1: There was also another one in relation to podcasts five
- 3:32Speaker 1: hundred and forty eight. So a couple of weeks ago,
- 3:34Speaker 1: we had an email come through from somebody and we
- 3:37Speaker 1: answered the question what do you do when your child
- 3:39Speaker 1: is coming up against kids who have different values? And
- 3:42Speaker 1: specifically there was an issue of racism. A little girl
- 3:45Speaker 1: brown skin. The kids at school said, we're not going
- 3:47Speaker 1: to play with you because of what color your skin is,
- 3:49Speaker 1: and so we reflected on that racism issue, even if
- 3:53Speaker 1: it's with little kids. We talked about how important is
- 3:55Speaker 1: that we address it early and do it effectively. Got
- 3:58Speaker 1: an email from someone called John. Kylie. I love this email.
- 4:01Speaker 1: John said, heard this podcast, episode number five forty eight.
- 4:04Speaker 1: It reminds me of a meeting we were having with
- 4:06Speaker 1: the principle of our previous school. In that meeting, our
- 4:09Speaker 1: son and I should mention John is of Asian heritage.
- 4:13Speaker 1: In that meeting, our son said, the white kids won't
- 4:15Speaker 1: play with me. Principal said nothing, not even a query
- 4:18Speaker 1: or apology. I was so stunned in this day and
- 4:21Speaker 1: age that this still happens. I didn't say anything. I
- 4:25Speaker 1: think when we do nothing, we're endorsing this behavior. That
- 4:27Speaker 1: school still has problems many years later. And then he said,
- 4:29Speaker 1: on reflection, I can think of many recent examples. I
- 4:33Speaker 1: was so used to it, I didn't notice it, and
- 4:35Speaker 1: that's the problem. So I'm really glad that we got
- 4:37Speaker 1: to have that conversation in that podcast, and we have
- 4:40Speaker 1: received a lot of feedback on that one as well.
- 4:42Speaker 1: So just wanted to share that one. So Kylie, I'll
- 4:46Speaker 1: do better tomorrow. Today that makes sense, you know what
- 4:50Speaker 1: I mean?
- 4:51Speaker 2: Well, I just want to save everybody the heartache from
- 4:54Speaker 2: the outsets.
- 4:54Speaker 1: Right.
- 4:55Speaker 2: If you're thinking of taking your children to see a movie.
- 4:58Speaker 1: Yeah, oh oh oh, please don't.
- 5:01Speaker 2: Waste your time going and seeing Pinion.
- 5:05Speaker 1: Wow? So is this your obne better tomorrow? You're just
- 5:09Speaker 1: you know, I just had to put so we went
- 5:13Speaker 1: what was it last Saturday? The surf was pumping. I
- 5:16Speaker 1: had some work to do in the morning, and so
- 5:17Speaker 1: I was going to go up for a surf once
- 5:18Speaker 1: I got the work done, and you said no, No, we
- 5:20Speaker 1: promised the kids were going to go see Mimeon.
- 5:22Speaker 2: Do you think that was bad? I had my best
- 5:24Speaker 2: friend here.
- 5:25Speaker 1: I gave up the most incredible surf. You gave up
- 5:28Speaker 1: time with your best friend, and that was That was
- 5:32Speaker 1: the worst movie that. It has to be one of
- 5:35Speaker 1: the worst kids movies I've watched in my life. There
- 5:38Speaker 1: are a lot of other villains in the world. I'm going
- 5:42Speaker 1: to be a super villains.
- 5:48Speaker 2: So a couple of weeks ago, I took the kids
- 5:50Speaker 2: to see light Year.
- 5:51Speaker 1: Yep.
- 5:51Speaker 2: So Toy Story would hands down be one of our
- 5:55Speaker 2: all time family favorite movies.
- 5:58Speaker 1: We just love love the whole friend I love it well,
- 6:01Speaker 1: one two and three didn't love four, but one, two
- 6:02Speaker 1: and three amazing.
- 6:04Speaker 2: And so we were really excited. Saw a buzz up
- 6:06Speaker 2: there again and was like, this is going to be great.
- 6:09Speaker 2: So I was talking to a friend as we were
- 6:10Speaker 2: literally walking out the door ready to go to the movies,
- 6:13Speaker 2: and had, you know, asking each other what we were
- 6:15Speaker 2: doing for the day, and I told her that I
- 6:16Speaker 2: was taking the kids to see light Year and she said, yeah,
- 6:18Speaker 2: I think I'm going to give it a miss this year.
- 6:20Speaker 2: I'm boycotting Disney on this one. And I said, what
- 6:23Speaker 2: do you mean and she said, well, she said there's
- 6:27Speaker 2: some representation in there of a gay couple. And she said,
- 6:30Speaker 2: I just I don't feel like I should be having
- 6:33Speaker 2: to explain that to my four and five year olds
- 6:35Speaker 2: at this point in their lives. I hadn't heard anything,
- 6:39Speaker 2: and so we obviously continued with our plans and went ahead.
- 6:43Speaker 2: And to be honest, as someone who comes from a
- 6:46Speaker 2: heterosexual relationship, it wasn't offensive to me. It didn't upset
- 6:50Speaker 2: me the way that it has definitely upset a lot
- 6:52Speaker 2: of other people. What actually upset me about the movie
- 6:56Speaker 2: was that here was this amazing character that we've grown
- 7:00Speaker 2: up with and all of our children have grown up with.
- 7:02Speaker 2: And the movie was just it was like they literally
- 7:06Speaker 2: ripped Buzz out of this amazing background.
- 7:09Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, the Toy Story franchise is just phenomenal.
- 7:11Speaker 2: And placed him in this completely alter universe that meant nothing.
- 7:17Speaker 1: I can provide sleep sounds if you like. I have
- 7:19Speaker 1: several options, Summer Night, Ocean Paradise, well Carl no no, wait,
- 7:25Speaker 1: Noise is fine, very well. Canight sucks, Goonight Buzz.
- 7:32Speaker 2: It was a poor storyline.
- 7:34Speaker 1: I just felt like they cheated him two dud movies.
- 7:37Speaker 1: And since we've left Brisbane, the cost of movies has
- 7:39Speaker 1: gone through the roof. Like there's the Cineplex movies in Brisbane.
- 7:43Speaker 1: They were like seven bucks for a movie or something.
- 7:44Speaker 1: Up here, we're paying like more than double. It's killing me.
- 7:47Speaker 1: I just don't want to go to the movies anymore
- 7:48Speaker 1: because of how much they cost. I want to talk
- 7:50Speaker 1: about that issue though, So from a I'm always interested
- 7:54Speaker 1: in following the dollars. When you look at the box
- 7:56Speaker 1: office dollars, Minions has I think globally done more than double.
- 8:01Speaker 2: I don't know how, Yeah, I don't know how.
- 8:04Speaker 1: It's o two hundred million dollars versus a little over
- 8:07Speaker 1: one hundred million for light Year.
- 8:09Speaker 2: But I think the fact that Tim Allen wasn't a
- 8:10Speaker 2: part of light Year, I think that that would have
- 8:14Speaker 2: had a huge impact on.
- 8:16Speaker 1: The following Well maybe, but while I've been googling around
- 8:19Speaker 1: and trying to get some info on it, I think
- 8:20Speaker 1: that the issue of homosexuality in a kid's cartoon is
- 8:26Speaker 1: definitely It might be twenty twenty two, and I know
- 8:28Speaker 1: that we're dealing with all kinds of acceptance and inclusion
- 8:32Speaker 1: and diversity issues much much more effectively than we did five, ten,
- 8:37Speaker 1: twenty years ago. But there are a lot of parents
- 8:40Speaker 1: who are clearly and emphatically saying what adults choose to
- 8:44Speaker 1: do is up to them, and as people discover their sexuality,
- 8:46Speaker 1: that's fine, But I don't want to have to have
- 8:48Speaker 1: conversations with my four and five and six year old.
- 8:51Speaker 2: Of a cost on. It shouldn't be forced on my
- 8:53Speaker 2: children before I'm ready for them to have those conversations.
- 8:57Speaker 1: And that's the gist of the tone of the commonversations
- 9:00Speaker 1: that I'm picking up as I have been scaring the
- 9:02Speaker 1: Internet trying to find more information on the movies. And
- 9:06Speaker 1: what the feedback has been.
- 9:07Speaker 2: Well, and I guess for me again, you know, when
- 9:09Speaker 2: you look at the whole picture, there was no representation
- 9:13Speaker 2: of a heterosexual relationship in the movie, so there's nothing
- 9:17Speaker 2: to marry it up with. So for my children who
- 9:21Speaker 2: are experiencing that in their own home, there was nothing
- 9:24Speaker 2: that kind of said that that was normal, And of.
- 9:26Speaker 1: Course the inclusion and diversity perspective would be, well, your
- 9:29Speaker 1: children are surrounded by that, and we need to let
- 9:31Speaker 1: them know that there are other ways of having relationships.
- 9:33Speaker 1: But I think when you look at just at the dollars,
- 9:36Speaker 1: when you just look at following the money Minions versus
- 9:40Speaker 1: light Year, light Year should be winning. Light Year comes
- 9:43Speaker 1: from a much stronger franchise from Disney Pixar. It's I mean,
- 9:46Speaker 1: these guys are the monsters in the room in terms
- 9:50Speaker 1: of having the capacity, having the machine, having the money,
- 9:54Speaker 1: compared to the dream Works and the Minions sort of thing.
- 9:56Speaker 1: But I think that there may be something there that's
- 10:01Speaker 1: a curiosity and worthy of further conversation, because when you
- 10:05Speaker 1: follow the money, the parents are avoiding one and going
- 10:08Speaker 1: to the other. Even though and I didn't watch light
- 10:10Speaker 1: Year with you, I was busy, but having seen Minions,
- 10:13Speaker 1: I would have to believe that light Year is a
- 10:15Speaker 1: better movie than Minions, because Minions was the worst movie ever.
- 10:19Speaker 1: But parents are still taking their kids to see Minions
- 10:21Speaker 1: over light Year, and I'm just I'm curious to know
- 10:24Speaker 1: whether that's the reason. You can let us know podcasts
- 10:26Speaker 1: at Happy Families dot com dot you. Do you agree
- 10:30Speaker 1: that kids need to be exposed to a variety of
- 10:33Speaker 1: forms of relationships or do you think that they're too
- 10:36Speaker 1: young and that we need to leave the politics and
- 10:38Speaker 1: the gender identity and relationship sort of stuff out of
- 10:42Speaker 1: it until they're older. We'd love to know what you think.
- 10:44Speaker 1: Podcasts at Happy Families dot com dot AU. Send us
- 10:47Speaker 1: an email and we'll talk about a little bit more
- 10:49Speaker 1: next week now, missus Happy Families. After the break, let's
- 10:52Speaker 1: find out whether or not we've had a better week
- 10:54Speaker 1: this week than last week and what we can do
- 10:56Speaker 1: to be better parents tomorrow. The twenty first century is
- 11:02Speaker 1: a tricky time to be a teen girl. Alcohol, drugs,
- 11:05Speaker 1: mental health concerns, body image issues, technology, sex. Our daughters
- 11:09Speaker 1: face all these and more. The Happy Family's Misconnection Summit
- 11:13Speaker 1: brings together the best modern day experts on teen Girls
- 11:17Speaker 1: to show you how to stay connected with your daughter
- 11:20Speaker 1: and help her face these challenges head on, available online
- 11:24Speaker 1: via video at The Happy Family's web shop.
- 11:26Speaker 2: It's The Happy Family's podcast, The podcast for a time
- 11:28Speaker 2: poor parent who just wants answers.
- 11:30Speaker 1: Now, now we need to get too answers because we
- 11:32Speaker 1: talked too long in the first part of the podcast.
- 11:35Speaker 2: All right, tell me what's your story? Oh, could you
- 11:37Speaker 2: do better than last week?
- 11:38Speaker 1: I'll do better tomorrow.
- 11:39Speaker 2: Everybody is waiting on baited breath.
- 11:41Speaker 1: That's right, because last week was so horrible. If you
- 11:43Speaker 1: missed it, by the way, go back and listen the
- 11:44Speaker 1: lastek's podcast where I complained about being a parent and
- 11:46Speaker 1: say I want to quit this week. Well, I was
- 11:48Speaker 1: away for a couple of nights, which is always so
- 11:51Speaker 1: it was awesome. I had a great week, he says.
- 11:54Speaker 1: And the hotel that they booked me in it was
- 11:55Speaker 1: really nice, it was quiet, just amazing. No, I would
- 12:00Speaker 1: say that the highlight of the week, the thing that
- 12:03Speaker 1: really got me was in spite of how awful last
- 12:06Speaker 1: week was or the week before, but whatever it is,
- 12:08Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Leading up to last week's podcast,
- 12:11Speaker 1: I had this moment with Emily, our eight year old,
- 12:14Speaker 1: the one who one of three, who's been driving one
- 12:17Speaker 1: of five, who's been driving me up the wall, and
- 12:19Speaker 1: she just came in really close to me, gave me
- 12:22Speaker 1: a big hug, put her ear against my chests, and said, Daddy,
- 12:26Speaker 1: I can hear a heartbeat, and then started tapping my
- 12:28Speaker 1: heartbeat on my arm while it was beating. And then
- 12:31Speaker 1: I got to do the same thing for her, And
- 12:33Speaker 1: it was just this magic moment where all of the drama,
- 12:37Speaker 1: all the pain, all of the hassle, all of the frustration,
- 12:39Speaker 1: the angst, the lure that had been going on for
- 12:42Speaker 1: the last little while, it literally evaporated in that moment,
- 12:46Speaker 1: and I saw her as this sweet little kid who
- 12:48Speaker 1: I just wanted a hug and hold and love and cherish.
- 12:51Speaker 1: And it was almost like that one moment was a
- 12:54Speaker 1: turning point. It was a catalyst. Maybe the conversations we've
- 12:56Speaker 1: had as well shifted it, but having that special moment,
- 13:01Speaker 1: and I think my take home message really really simple.
- 13:03Speaker 1: One is when we stop and we pay attention to
- 13:08Speaker 1: one another, even if it means listening to one another's
- 13:10Speaker 1: heartbeats and tapping them out on our arms or something
- 13:12Speaker 1: like that, we realize that our children are humans, they
- 13:15Speaker 1: realize that we're humans. We get to have that moment
- 13:17Speaker 1: of connection. So that's what I'm going to be working
- 13:19Speaker 1: really hard on over the next week, is having more soft,
- 13:22Speaker 1: slow moments with the kids.
- 13:24Speaker 2: Well, I'm really glad that you had a beautiful room
- 13:27Speaker 2: in Adelaide and that you enjoyed the solitude and quiet,
- 13:32Speaker 2: because while you were doing that, I actually had one
- 13:35Speaker 2: of the biggest meltdowns to deal with that I've had
- 13:38Speaker 2: to deal with in quite some time with Miss eight,
- 13:41Speaker 2: in relation to going to school. We just did not
- 13:45Speaker 2: want to go.
- 13:45Speaker 1: Yeah, so this school refusal issue. If you've been following
- 13:48Speaker 1: the podcast for a while, you'll know that this is
- 13:49Speaker 1: not new. We've got some really big challenges here.
- 13:52Speaker 2: So she didn't go to school on Monday, yep. And
- 13:55Speaker 2: Tuesday came and it was bigger than Ben hr.
- 13:58Speaker 1: And Ben her is big.
- 14:01Speaker 2: It was big. It was really really big. And it
- 14:03Speaker 2: got to the point where we were in a bit
- 14:06Speaker 2: of a wrestle as I was trying to get her
- 14:07Speaker 2: dressed and she was just adamant that she wasn't going,
- 14:10Speaker 2: and she was screaming and she hated me, and I
- 14:13Speaker 2: was the worst person in the world, until finally I
- 14:17Speaker 2: just kind of grabbed her in a bear hug and
- 14:20Speaker 2: she started I could feel the tensions start to calm,
- 14:24Speaker 2: even though all of the words were still coming out.
- 14:27Speaker 2: She'd kind of given up her fight, and so I
- 14:30Speaker 2: literally just picked her up in that big, great, big
- 14:32Speaker 2: bear hug and we sat on the couch and I
- 14:36Speaker 2: just thought, I will sit here as long as I
- 14:39Speaker 2: need to till she feels calm, she feels safe, and
- 14:43Speaker 2: she feels loved, and so I just sat there with her,
- 14:47Speaker 2: and it took probably about fifteen minutes, and she became
- 14:51Speaker 2: very very quiet, very calm. She didn't want to go
- 14:55Speaker 2: to school, and we just sat and I talked to
- 14:57Speaker 2: her and I told her how much I loved her
- 15:00Speaker 2: and that I couldn't wait till this afternoon because we
- 15:02Speaker 2: actually were having a playdate with one of her friends.
- 15:05Speaker 1: It was just a.
- 15:06Speaker 2: Really calm process, and it made all the difference because
- 15:10Speaker 2: by the time we worked through that, I was calm
- 15:14Speaker 2: because I had really built up and caught the emotions
- 15:16Speaker 2: of the morning, and she was really calm. And we
- 15:19Speaker 2: got to school and we got to school late, but
- 15:22Speaker 2: it didn't matter because we had worked through the process
- 15:27Speaker 2: without it becoming an absolute mess.
- 15:30Speaker 1: Yeah, and she actually went and we.
- 15:32Speaker 2: Did, and we had a great afternoon when I picked
- 15:34Speaker 2: her up. And it's just sometimes.
- 15:37Speaker 1: I reckon the cold mornings and the late sunrises, the
- 15:42Speaker 1: winter stuff. I reckon all of that plays into it,
- 15:43Speaker 1: as well as all of the other stuff. There's so
- 15:46Speaker 1: much there. But it sounds like you nailed it well,
- 15:48Speaker 1: I think.
- 15:49Speaker 2: When I talked to her and I asked, because she
- 15:50Speaker 2: just said, I hate school, and I said, can you
- 15:53Speaker 2: tell me more about that? And she said, well, I
- 15:56Speaker 2: sometimes get bullied. And we've been going through a conversation
- 15:59Speaker 2: with school in relation to what's been going on there.
- 16:02Speaker 2: And I said to her, has that been happening lately,
- 16:05Speaker 2: because I was under the impression that it hadn't. And
- 16:07Speaker 2: she said, no, it doesn't happen anymore. And I said,
- 16:11Speaker 2: but you're scared that it will and she said yes,
- 16:15Speaker 2: and just recognizing the anxiety in her that she's had
- 16:19Speaker 2: this bad experience and now she's scared that it will
- 16:21Speaker 2: happen again.
- 16:22Speaker 1: Yeah, And I reckon that has to be one of
- 16:24Speaker 1: the central parts of what's going on here. What a
- 16:26Speaker 1: great conversation. The power of slowing down and having these
- 16:30Speaker 1: moments together. So it's been a big podcast, Kylie. We've
- 16:33Speaker 1: talked about all the feedback with the ups and downs.
- 16:37Speaker 1: We've talked about the worst movies and the controversy that
- 16:41Speaker 1: some people are really experiencing when it comes to another
- 16:43Speaker 1: very popular movie. And we've also highlighted some positive some
- 16:48Speaker 1: wins about how we get this right. And it all
- 16:51Speaker 1: seems to come back to the same principles that we
- 16:53Speaker 1: talk about so often. Slow down, be with the kids,
- 16:58Speaker 1: listen to.
- 16:58Speaker 2: Them, listen to the heart.
- 17:00Speaker 1: Oh, I see what you did there. I did it literally,
- 17:03Speaker 1: you did it metaphorically, and both times it led to
- 17:06Speaker 1: great outcomes. The Happy Family's podcast is produced by Justin
- 17:09Speaker 1: Rouland from Bridge Media. Craig Bruce is our executive producer.
- 17:12Speaker 1: If you'd like more info about making your family happy,
- 17:14Speaker 1: un visit us at happy families dot com, dot you,
- 17:16Speaker 1: or check out our Facebook page Doctor Justin Colson's Happy Families.
- 17:20Speaker 1: Have a great weekend, Ken kin Kin