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The Signs We Missed: A Mother's Story of Her Daughter's Trafficking · Groove with Portia

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to grou Porsche, the podcast that uncovers the hidden
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  Speaker 1: So get ready to grow with me, Porsche the Producer,
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  Speaker 1: let's dive in. Hello everybody, and welcome back to Groul Porsche.
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  Speaker 1: the latest and greatest of all Withdrew with Porsche. So
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  Speaker 1: those of you know, January is also Human Trafficking Awareness Month,
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  Speaker 1: and recently I took a trip to Minneapolis. We won't
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  Speaker 1: get into that today, but when I was in the airport,
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  Speaker 1: I noticed that the restrooms now have a pamphlet that
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  Speaker 1: kind of gives you signs to recognize for if somebody
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  Speaker 1: is being human trafficked and how you can alert airport
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  Speaker 1: staff if you recognize something. And I often think about
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  Speaker 1: how far we still need to go when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to recognizing when individuals are being human trafficked and how
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  Speaker 1: we can bring more of them home. So today I
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  Speaker 1: have the honor of being joined by a mother of
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  Speaker 1: a daughter who was human trafficked, who was able to
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  Speaker 1: make it back home safely, and she's going to share
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  Speaker 1: with us today her journey, along with things that we
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  Speaker 1: can look out for in the new year, and also
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  Speaker 1: some maybe misconceptions around human trafficking. Welcome to grew Portia,
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  Speaker 1: MS Monica Esivist. First of all to shout out to
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  Speaker 1: Lisa Counsel for the introduction. So Monica, welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 1: How are you today?
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  Speaker 2: Thank you good, Thank you for for inviting me to
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  Speaker 2: your show. It's a pleasure and it's very very nice,
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  Speaker 2: very much.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the honors all mine, Monica. I know we've
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  Speaker 1: been connected for a while and I remember the Facebook
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  Speaker 1: post that you made when Brianna was found, and so Monica,
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  Speaker 1: for our audience who's tuning in, can you walk us
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  Speaker 1: through kind of that journey from when Brianna went missing
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  Speaker 1: and what was the turning point that brought her home.
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  Speaker 2: Memorial weekend of twenty twenty two, my daughter went to
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  Speaker 2: New York. She she's she met some people. I thought
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  Speaker 2: it was friends from rack he in DC. I can't
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  Speaker 2: remember the Bending Road. Bending Road. They told me they
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  Speaker 2: were gonna come back Tuesday. Then they hit New York.
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  Speaker 2: They got there and she was like, oh, mom, they
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  Speaker 2: they are buying me gibs. You know, they're buying me clothes.
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  Speaker 2: Because I was asking her, I'm sorry, what clothes you're
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  Speaker 2: gonna take? You need to come home and you know,
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  Speaker 2: if you're gonna go with the friends, and I need,
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  Speaker 2: I need to talk to them. So they put them
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  Speaker 2: on the phone to talk to me, and I'm thinking, okay,
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  Speaker 2: So they said no, no, they got everything for me.
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  Speaker 2: So I still wasn't clickly by her being old enough,
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  Speaker 2: I let her go. So he comes. You know, Tom
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  Speaker 2: was running and running and running and she wasn't coming.
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  Speaker 2: They will send me pictures of her, just to see
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  Speaker 2: that she was okay. The numbers, you know, they will
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  Speaker 2: call me, I will talk to her and everything. And
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  Speaker 2: it just kept on going and going and going and going,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, something is not right. And the last
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  Speaker 2: just to make it quick. The last that I heard
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  Speaker 2: from her was two days after her birth, July twenty
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  Speaker 2: nine of twenty twenty two. Yeah, July twenty nine, twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty two. After that, I didn't hear for her from
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  Speaker 2: her at all. We ain't know nothing. We didn't say pictures.
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  Speaker 2: I was all in, all in you know, social media.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it was at that time. I was in
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  Speaker 2: a dark place because I have her son. She has
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  Speaker 2: a little boy too. Well now he's eight, but at
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  Speaker 2: the time she was five or six. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: we we called the Black and Misin Foundation, all of
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  Speaker 2: you guys stepped in to post, you know, her fly
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  Speaker 2: around social media. And the police did not want the police.
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  Speaker 2: They say, oh, they probably just went with her boyfriend.
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  Speaker 2: Let me tell you that they do not help. I
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  Speaker 2: went from I went from Fairfirst County to d C.
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  Speaker 2: D C. They took her as critical. I went to well,
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  Speaker 2: we didn't go to New York. We tried to get
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  Speaker 2: to New York. They say, oh, we have a lot
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  Speaker 2: of missing peoples. It happens. Police did not want nothing
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  Speaker 2: to do with it. And if very sad. So the
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  Speaker 2: Black and Missing Foundation stepped in to help and just
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  Speaker 2: to say that Brianna was. They were taking her from
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  Speaker 2: hotel to hotel by her faces. They would she did
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  Speaker 2: tell me now that she was home. She made a
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  Speaker 2: lot of rappers just to say that. So I was
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  Speaker 2: like they went party to party disc context. They would
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  Speaker 2: drug her up a lot. I mean they would give
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  Speaker 2: her a lot of drugs. And I'm talking about the
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  Speaker 2: bad drugs, you know, the high high level drugs. So
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  Speaker 2: her body has taken so much that you know, they
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  Speaker 2: were even taking they were even planning to take her
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  Speaker 2: from here to that's Vegas, from Vegas overseas. That was
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  Speaker 2: the plan. That's how they do it. That's the thing
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  Speaker 2: they take them. And that's why a lot of missing
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  Speaker 2: people you don't find them because there's in other countries.
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  Speaker 2: They tell them, you know, they say, okay, this is young,
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  Speaker 2: let me take it. So then then she was saying
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  Speaker 2: that sometimes they will take her hotels with other girls.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes she had to sleep at night. They will beat
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  Speaker 2: her up if she didn't do this, she didn't do that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they will, they will put her outside, they
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  Speaker 2: will not feed her and everything. I mean, she she
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  Speaker 2: she didn't do a lot. But you know, my pastor,
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  Speaker 2: I will say that prayer I think God did all
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  Speaker 2: this because a pastor did put out on prayer and
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  Speaker 2: with a Black Mason foundation with social media. But they
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  Speaker 2: found her in New York as American person that saw
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  Speaker 2: her flyer and they found her and they put her
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  Speaker 2: on a cab No, not a cab, uh what do
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  Speaker 2: you call it? An uber from way over there to here,
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  Speaker 2: and they're like, we found your daughter. Were sending her.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't send it to the police now, but just
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  Speaker 2: to say that when when they called me, I was
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  Speaker 2: at church. I was like happy. But after the thing
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  Speaker 2: with the thing is my daughter was coming home. They
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  Speaker 2: found her. But that was not my daughter. It was Brianna.
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  Speaker 2: But it was a total differend Brianna. Abrianna that was broken.
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  Speaker 2: Abrianna was that was damage Abrianna. That her mind was nowhere,
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  Speaker 2: her mind, her mind was like, you know, they hit
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  Speaker 2: her so much, her mind when she didn't know say
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  Speaker 2: what two and two was, she was saying, I know,
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  Speaker 2: she was saying that big Meek have you heard of him?
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  Speaker 2: It's a big time drug dealer. That that was her father.
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  Speaker 2: That's how her whole brain came. By my being bye bye,
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  Speaker 2: by me being so happy that she was home I
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  Speaker 2: didn't realize all those things. So for a whole year
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  Speaker 2: my daughter was home, we didn't know who she was.
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  Speaker 2: She destroyed my whole house. I'm gonna tell you this
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  Speaker 2: because they don't know you. She didn't want to get
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  Speaker 2: near me. She will just want to drink, get hide.
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  Speaker 2: She will leave the house, come in the house, she
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  Speaker 2: will break everything. She will talk to a nighttime, she
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  Speaker 2: will talk to all these different people, you know, like
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  Speaker 2: say no, you owe me this, No you you did this.
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  Speaker 2: You stop beating me, Why are you hurting me? It
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  Speaker 2: was like she was having nightmares and to the point
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  Speaker 2: that one time she was like, you know, like not
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  Speaker 2: saying like six 'frienny or something like that. That's how
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  Speaker 2: Baddy got that. She was like, let's kill your mother.
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  Speaker 2: Kill kill the truth. I could have been there in
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  Speaker 2: my house with my daughter. But that's why human trafficking us.
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  Speaker 2: You know, all those drugs, everything that she'd been through
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  Speaker 2: by her being beaten and everything. It was not my daughter,
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  Speaker 2: but it was my daughter, and I did not know
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  Speaker 2: what to do. I was go crazy. I had to
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  Speaker 2: put her out. Then the police got a hold. She
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  Speaker 2: will call the police and say that I was hurting her.
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  Speaker 2: And I wasn't. But because she didn't know who I was,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, We will take her to
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  Speaker 2: church and she will just go crazy and we're trying
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  Speaker 2: to pray for her and nothing. She didn't want nothing
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  Speaker 2: to do with her son. Then she came home pregnant
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  Speaker 2: as well, and that was another thing. So she didn't
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  Speaker 2: want to take no therpy. She kept saying there's nothing
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  Speaker 2: wrong with her, that she was fine, that she wanted
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  Speaker 2: to go back to New York, that she wanted to
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  Speaker 2: she got a lot of things to do over there,
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  Speaker 2: that she was going back to DC because this is
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  Speaker 2: something that they go back to, that they know that
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  Speaker 2: they scared, because they know they're looking for her. And
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  Speaker 2: thankfully that me and my friends and my family we
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  Speaker 2: pulled together that Oh, you know, she's much better now.
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  Speaker 2: She went to God. Yeah, the mental was she she
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  Speaker 2: put herself in there and finally she this was this year,
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  Speaker 2: so she's finally getting a little bit better. She's still
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  Speaker 2: not able to take care for her kids yet because
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  Speaker 2: she is learning. She got to learn how to do
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  Speaker 2: that again. She got to learn how to love herself
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  Speaker 2: and who she is and walking everything. So it's like
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  Speaker 2: she it's like she's taking baby steps, but she's thirty two,
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  Speaker 2: so right now I don't know which age she is,
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  Speaker 2: but she's growing up, you know, going backwards. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's very very sad. It hurted me, we and for
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  Speaker 2: me by me not being aware of what human trafficking
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  Speaker 2: everything is, we didn't know how to take care of her.
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  Speaker 2: But now that we know, it's steps to take care
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  Speaker 2: of did. They have to get meant, they have to
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  Speaker 2: get the mental health as soon as possible, they have
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  Speaker 2: to be medicated, they have to be seen because she
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  Speaker 2: had a lot of unfortunately things have happened to us women,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And then there was the baby,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, that was the another hardest thing because
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't want my daughter to have a
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  Speaker 2: baby from trafficker. We don't know who the father is.
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  Speaker 2: That's another thing. Who is to say who the father is?
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  Speaker 2: You know, And it's very sad because I was like,
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  Speaker 2: the little girl's gonna grow up to know that this,
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  Speaker 2: this is how she was conceived. But then just God,
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  Speaker 2: let me just you know, I pray and guys like,
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  Speaker 2: just keep the baby. It's gonna be fine. And I
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  Speaker 2: think she's become like the love of my life and
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  Speaker 2: the love that her brother needs. But she's still I'm
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  Speaker 2: caring for that baby too because she's not able to
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  Speaker 2: so right now, it's it's hard. I never thought that
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  Speaker 2: this was gonna happen to her. And they beat you
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  Speaker 2: if you don't do something, if you don't sell your body,
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  Speaker 2: if you don't have sex with them, if you don't
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  Speaker 2: go to the parties, if you don't get dressed, they
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  Speaker 2: beat you. They kick you, they don't feed you, they'll
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  Speaker 2: lock you in the room. It's crazy. Now she's been
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  Speaker 2: through all that.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, and Monica, you know, and I mean sometimes she
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  Speaker 1: has to sleep on the floor of who knows, Monica,
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  Speaker 1: you know, thank you for sharing, because I know it's
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  Speaker 1: not people think that they know what this life is like.
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  Speaker 1: We see all of stuff right on TV obviously growing up,
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  Speaker 1: the different music videos that depict a bunch of girls
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  Speaker 1: dancing with an artist, but we don't know the real
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  Speaker 1: story behind how some of them end up there. And clearly,
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  Speaker 1: you know it could possibly be that human trafficking is
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  Speaker 1: that big driver of some of those quote unquote successes
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  Speaker 1: that we've looked at over the years.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because she did she did say that it was
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  Speaker 2: a rapper. I can't remember his name, so will we investigated?
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  Speaker 2: And they want to say how you met him? I said,
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  Speaker 2: we met them at the party. M yeah, So they
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  Speaker 2: buy them. They said, okay, bring some girls over and
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  Speaker 2: they allude them. You give them a drink, you give
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  Speaker 2: the it's like, you know, like a baby. Oh, I
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  Speaker 2: want this doll, this doll, I want this candy, candy,
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  Speaker 2: everything you want, We're gonna give it to you. But
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  Speaker 2: you don't know the damage that they're going to do
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  Speaker 2: to her and how many people will violate her because
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  Speaker 2: it's like there are times when she told me they
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  Speaker 2: were like changing games, you know, and I want to
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  Speaker 2: say all that, but it happened. It didn't happen to her,
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  Speaker 2: but she knows us.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, Monica, one of the things that
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  Speaker 1: I'm curious, it's about being the mom watching your daughter
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  Speaker 1: come home. You see that she's physically still her, but
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  Speaker 1: you can tell that she's different. Can you share with
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  Speaker 1: our audience, Monica, how you've given yourself that grace of
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  Speaker 1: the grief of your daughter not being the same person
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  Speaker 1: who you originally thought that she was going to be.
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  Speaker 2: Ooh, I cried, I'm gonna tell you, I cried. I
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  Speaker 2: cried and cried and cried. I think I gained so
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  Speaker 2: many pounds because that's all I could do is eat.
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  Speaker 2: It was hurtful because everything by her destroying my whole
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  Speaker 2: house and I mean destroying the walls, the windows, everything,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm trying to keep her in and I'm trying
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  Speaker 2: to cover her, and then by her calling the police
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  Speaker 2: and everything. I was like, where did I fail? What
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  Speaker 2: did I do so wrong? And I will ask God,
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  Speaker 2: I said, why why is this happening? You know? Why mean?
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  Speaker 2: And you know here she's destroying everything, She's destroying me,
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  Speaker 2: and she wants to kill me literally because I will
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  Speaker 2: find knives literally in her room here there and she
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  Speaker 2: literally almost you know, could have killed me in the
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  Speaker 2: middle of the night. But it wasn't her. It was
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  Speaker 2: the people that, you know, by her being so damaged
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  Speaker 2: that that's how they probably taught her what to do
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  Speaker 2: or or possibly also you know, by them trying to
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  Speaker 2: protect themselves from others, you know, because when somebody kid
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  Speaker 2: him meeting you, you know, you want to fight back.
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  Speaker 2: And she did those things and like in the middle
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  Speaker 2: of the night or when she woke up in the morning,
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  Speaker 2: she will start screaming and yelling and work like who
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  Speaker 2: she's talking to. But it was imagined by her being
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  Speaker 2: gone almost a year and a half. All those people
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  Speaker 2: that she's been around. My days have been dark from
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  Speaker 2: the time that she left to just recently now that
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  Speaker 2: she's getting better. So even the children and the babies.
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  Speaker 2: Well the baby, I can say too much, but my grandson,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he has nightmares. He had a nightmare not
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  Speaker 2: recently ago. So it's it's dramatic people and people think
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  Speaker 2: that human trafficking it's nothing. Oh, you know, I know
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  Speaker 2: about it. You don't know about it till you been
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  Speaker 2: in it. And Monica learning you know.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm glad that you brought up to Monica that
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  Speaker 1: you're still in that learning boat. You've been in it
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  Speaker 1: first hand. But there's still so many other misconceptions, signs
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  Speaker 1: and nuances. And I'm curious, Monica, if you can share
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  Speaker 1: with our audience what were some signs or obstacles and
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  Speaker 1: things that you recognized during your time with Brianna that
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  Speaker 1: maybe the general public would not be privy to because
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  Speaker 1: the mainstream media does not always put that information out.
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  Speaker 2: Well, mainly when you know, when my daughter not saying
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  Speaker 2: not saying I can't provide her I can, but how
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  Speaker 2: they that the way that she was dressed, and how
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  Speaker 2: they take them, you know, as a group. They go
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  Speaker 2: by groups, two or three girls, pretty girls, and how
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  Speaker 2: they dress, and you know, they go and then they
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  Speaker 2: go to they stay together because they have they have
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  Speaker 2: they cannot leave each other, you know, by themselves, even
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  Speaker 2: in the hotels they have. My daughter will say that
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  Speaker 2: she was roommate with another girl and the girl will
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  Speaker 2: check on her, and the girl was in charge of
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  Speaker 2: feeding her. So it's they go in groups and they
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  Speaker 2: travel mostly in the evenings when a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: can see, you know, to go to the places that
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  Speaker 2: they go to. And sometimes they will will even travel
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  Speaker 2: in by the butt. Because she used to tell me
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  Speaker 2: she had to go from Brooklyn to New York, you know,
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  Speaker 2: to the city, or sometimes to go to all those
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  Speaker 2: areas you know in because I can't remember right now,
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  Speaker 2: but all the areas in New York. They will have
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  Speaker 2: to travel together. And you know, when you see them
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  Speaker 2: like that or you see their faces that they're not right.
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  Speaker 2: You can tell their faces and something that right, or
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  Speaker 2: when they're staring at you. But if they write you know,
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  Speaker 2: like if they go like this or like this, that's
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  Speaker 2: the fine. If they write it on the name that
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  Speaker 2: they need help as well, or if they stay in
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  Speaker 2: the bathroom also like they say, you know, they'll they'll
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  Speaker 2: get them and then they'll change them. They'll tell them
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  Speaker 2: to change their clothes and stuff. You have to be
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  Speaker 2: very alert, especially the men also because well nowadays the
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  Speaker 2: pemstone dress like the pems they used to, but it's
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  Speaker 2: it's totally different. And you will also look at the guy,
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  Speaker 2: how how the gentleman is acting with the girls as
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  Speaker 2: persuading them, and he's like, okay, come on, get in,
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  Speaker 2: come on, let's go. You're taking too long. So they'd
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  Speaker 2: be timing them. Because my daughter was saying that the
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  Speaker 2: guy will time well I don't want to say his name,
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  Speaker 2: but they will time her. If she didn't do something,
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  Speaker 2: he will go off, he will get mad. So and
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  Speaker 2: the girl was responsible for her and my daughter has
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  Speaker 2: you know, my daughter she before that she did have attitudes.
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  Speaker 2: So every time she threw an attitude, that he will
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  Speaker 2: hit her.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Monica, I'm glad that she's I'm sorry, I'm glad that
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: she's home. That they found her and the Uber driver
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: also now this in TikTok because I put in TikTok
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: the Uber driver when I put her post, there's areas.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I don't want to say the area because I can't
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: even remember when he was saying, say yeah, they all
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: the girls. And he did tell me that he had
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: seen her there in this area in Brooklyn where they
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: have all the girls, I mean young at twelve years old,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: nine year old's and older women too, So there are
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: some pretty you know, there's some beautiful older women. They
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: will get them too. And then they tried to find you.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: So you can go back, but something, but you have
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: to make that decision do you want to go back
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: or that? Because my daughter did say that she wanted
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: to go back a couple of times and I was like,
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: and so I tested her. I said, okay, I did
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: one thing. I said, well, let's go back, your back,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: let's go. I'll drop you off because I wanted to
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: see what she was going to do. And she was
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: like no, no, no, I think I better stay. But
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: they do. I don't know if she was still in
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: touch with him when that, but they will want to
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: go back because they miss all those things and the
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: attractions and you know, the lifestyle and also the drugs,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: which I'm still dealing with that. And I mean she's
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: not doing all the high step, but she's just doing
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: little stuff, so little but little.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: I'm working with her, you know, Monica, I'm glad that
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Brianna is making a turnaround, even though it's a slow progression.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: You're working with her. She's home, you know. I'm glad
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: that the prayers were answered.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I am somebody who grew up in the house where
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: we talked about prayer a lot and faith, Monica. For
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: our audience, we're going to be wrapping up here soon,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: and I hope next time we have this conversation that
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Brianna is able to join us when she's ready to
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: share a story. Monica, I'm sure there's going to be
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: individuals in our audience who want to connect with you,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: who maybe once in your same shoes, that may want
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: to just connect with somebody who's been there, who has
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: seen and who knows. How can our audience connect with
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: you today, Monica?
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: On my Facebook, I'm on, I think Monica Estaves and
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: on I think my social media the same thing. I mean,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: not no, what do you call it? Instagram, Instagram, and
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: as well as TikTok is it that? Or nan a girl? Okay, yeah,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: one of those two. Those those are mine because I
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: tried to keep a little private just in case somebody crazy.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: But the thing is, you know, we have to be
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: careful about this rappers and artists because I'm telling you,
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: they do take on. She did not make I know
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: she once she believed it was, but I know the
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: other ones that she did because she'd be telling me
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: little stories by little you know.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: Monica, First of all, again, I thank you for sharing
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: with our audience today and being so generous and so vulnerable,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: because this is not easy to talk about, especially because
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: so many people believe, oh, well, that can't happen to me,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: But you never know until you're actually in front of
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: the whole situation.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: And it happened to me. Yeah, the AFA from Virginia
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: to DC to New York, it happens.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Well, everybody, that was miss Monica Estevez that you heard
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: from Brianna's mother today on grew with Portia. And that
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: concludes our conversation for today and until next time. Everybody,
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Stay safe and peace and hair grease everyone
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: And st