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Ryan Clark Says He Was Targeted at ESPN + The Usher Fan Everyone's Debating · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: I'm a homegrow that knows a little bit about everything
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Speaker 1: and everybody.
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Speaker 2: You know, if you don't lie about that, right la Hey, y'all,
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Speaker 2: what's up.
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Speaker 1: It's Laura Rosa and this is another episode of the
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Speaker 1: Latest with Laura Rosa. This is your daily take on
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Speaker 1: all things pop culture, entertainment, news, and all of the
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Speaker 1: conversation that shakes the room.
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Speaker 2: Baby.
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Speaker 1: So today and every day here on the Latest with
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Speaker 1: Laura Rosa. You guys know, we check in behind the
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Speaker 1: scenes of the grind. So back here kicking off another
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Speaker 1: work week. How am I feeling today?
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Speaker 2: I am feeling in between. Hmmm.
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Speaker 1: That's a good Those are good two words to describe it.
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Speaker 1: I'm feeling today. It's like I'm feeling very well arrested.
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Speaker 1: I took the weekend to just do that, to spend
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Speaker 1: some time with family as well too. But I'm learning,
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Speaker 1: y'all know, I'll be in and out of learning how
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Speaker 1: to disconnect or not. But I'm feeling in between because
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Speaker 1: I feel feel like I had such a great weekend disconnecting.
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Speaker 1: And then it's like, y'all know, Monday is like such
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Speaker 1: a big news day. If you don't know it is,
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Speaker 1: Monday is a really big news day because there's so
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Speaker 1: much that happens over the weekend. Even on the weekend,
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Speaker 1: it's typically slower. A lot more things happen during the
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Speaker 1: week because you have like, you know, different filings, everything
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Speaker 1: from divorces to you know, if cases are going down
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Speaker 1: civil criminal.
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Speaker 2: Things just move a bit faster during the week.
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Speaker 1: But Sunday came after I spent Friday and Saturday just
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Speaker 1: really relaxing. I told you guys in the last episode,
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Speaker 1: you know, I developed this plan of like here's how
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get things. You know, I'm trying to like
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Speaker 1: get a well oiled machine running, and I feel like
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Speaker 1: if I can do it myself internally and personally first,
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Speaker 1: that's what we reflect in what I'm able to do
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Speaker 1: and articulate across my team, which is really important to
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Speaker 1: me now that I'm like working with people on a
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Speaker 1: daily basis, on a daily basis as a team, I
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Speaker 1: want to make sure that we're actually progressing and executing
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Speaker 1: and getting things done. And I know it's much from
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Speaker 1: the top, so I'm in between because it's like, all right,
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Speaker 1: you take this little break. I've gotten way past the
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Speaker 1: feeling of feeling guilty because I'm taking time for myself,
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Speaker 1: whether it's I stop answering my phone for an hour
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Speaker 1: or two, or I decide that I'm going to say
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Speaker 1: no to attending some things, whatever the case may be.
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Speaker 1: I used to feel really really guilty about that stuff,
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Speaker 1: but now I don't. Now I feel like it's more
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Speaker 1: of strategy, like where do I need to be and
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Speaker 1: why do I need to be there? Because it is
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Speaker 1: important for me to be outside and on the ground
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Speaker 1: right now. But like, I think that there's a very
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Speaker 1: much good quality over quantity conversation when it comes to
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Speaker 1: picking and choosing those things. But then in between comes
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Speaker 1: in because it's like after you do all that, after
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Speaker 1: you take the break. A part of me I'm used
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Speaker 1: to operating at such a I don't take those breaks
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Speaker 1: type of you know, feeling that like I'm all. I
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Speaker 1: woke up this morning feeling like, uh, am I fully
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Speaker 1: prepared for today? Am I fully prepared for the week?
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Speaker 1: I didn't spend the weekend basketing and you know, being
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Speaker 1: overthrown and all of the work things and all the stuff.
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Speaker 2: I probably took calls this weekend.
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Speaker 1: I was really intentional because I felt like last week, Uh,
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Speaker 1: the wake up time was kicking my behind, so I
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Speaker 1: wanted to be able to catch up with myself a bit.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, you just feel in between because what you're
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Speaker 1: used to doing, I really, what you're used to doing,
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Speaker 1: let me finish the thought.
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Speaker 2: What you're used to doing, you're no longer doing.
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Speaker 1: So your body, your mind, everybody around you is used
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Speaker 1: to you operating in a certain way and then you
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Speaker 1: start to change that, but everything around you may not
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Speaker 1: change right away. So you're kind of in this in
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Speaker 1: between space of like, here's what I'm trying to get to,
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Speaker 1: here's the balance I'm trying to get to, and here's
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Speaker 1: whe I'm coming from. But I'm taking it to church
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Speaker 1: again and then check in my mentor Miss Lorie Hey,
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Speaker 1: she spoke at my church. He's a greatness over the
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Speaker 1: weekend and she talked about like belonging and basically what
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Speaker 1: you believe is what you feed or what you feed.
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Speaker 2: Is what you believe type of thing.
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Speaker 1: Right, Like, let's listen to a clip from Miss Laura
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Speaker 1: Hayes about the idea of belonging kind of like the
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Speaker 1: fitting in conversation and like almost like imposter syndrome too.
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Speaker 2: Let's say listen, how.
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Speaker 3: Ned y'all experienced some beasts with eve every.
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Speaker 2: Now and then again.
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Speaker 3: That was until I kept reading and I read a
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Speaker 3: little further, and it said she wasn't just enticed by
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Speaker 3: the fruit, she was enticed by knowing. And then I
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Speaker 3: felt conviction because I don't know if you're like me,
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Speaker 3: but I went through a season of I gotta know God,
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Speaker 3: I gotta know how you gonna work this out. God,
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Speaker 3: I gotta know how you're gonna come through. Tell me,
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Speaker 3: tell me now, And then I bite the fruit, and
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Speaker 3: now I'm trying to fix it.
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Speaker 2: That's your bat?
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Speaker 3: What is that thing that you bite every time that
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Speaker 3: the enemy is in your ear saying something? Did he
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Speaker 3: really say it that way? Did he really say you
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Speaker 3: have to attend church? Did he really say you should serve?
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Speaker 3: Did he really say you should give.
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Speaker 2: To the church.
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Speaker 3: They just want your money? What's the bait that he's using.
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Speaker 3: I was having a conversation with my husband and I
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Speaker 3: was like, Ugh, I kind of don't even want to
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Speaker 3: say what my bait is. And then I realized, oh,
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Speaker 3: you almost got me, because what I thought was I
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Speaker 3: was keeping a secret from the enemy if I didn't
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Speaker 3: say it.
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Speaker 2: But he already knows because he been using it. I'm
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Speaker 2: the one that was ignorant.
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Speaker 3: I'm the one that couldn't recognize how he was using it.
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Speaker 2: I'm the one that noticed it. He knows you come.
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Speaker 3: From my children. Oh my gosh, I'm a different person.
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Speaker 3: And when I recognize that thing, and I said, ooh,
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Speaker 3: I've been taking the bait. I've been concerned about how
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Speaker 3: it was gonna happen. I've been worried about it. Identified
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Speaker 3: with yourself. Now, I'm a teacher, So by trading, by calling,
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Speaker 3: as you're sitting there and if you're taking notes, even
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Speaker 3: in your head and your phone, I want you to
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Speaker 3: identify what's the bait he's been using. What has he
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Speaker 3: been using to try and get you to be this
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Speaker 3: person that is just always in control, This person that
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Speaker 3: is anxious about everything, this person that is depressed about everything,
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Speaker 3: This person that is controlling to the point that your
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Speaker 3: kids don't even want to be around you because you're
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Speaker 3: so controlling. Your husband, your wife don't want to be
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Speaker 3: around you because you gotta be in control of everything.
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Speaker 3: Instead of you saying, hold on, baby, let's go to
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Speaker 3: God and see what we're gonna do, and we're letting
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Speaker 3: the enemy in our ear. He's saying all these things
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Speaker 3: to us, and we're just allowing it to happen.
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Speaker 1: So I was watching this sermon over the weekend, and
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Speaker 1: I was like trying to figure out, like I knew
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Speaker 1: that it hit me in several different places in my life.
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Speaker 1: And whenever I'm like watching sermons or even if I'm
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Speaker 1: just listening to people speak or in conversations with people,
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Speaker 1: I always walk away thinking about what I actually have
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Speaker 1: happened on a day to day in my life and
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Speaker 1: what God is bringing to my front door about that
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Speaker 1: and why, Like what is the message? How was it
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Speaker 1: supposed to hit me? How was it supposed to land
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Speaker 1: with me? Supposed to smack me in my face with something?
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Speaker 2: But what is it?
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Speaker 1: So from her conversation, just in me, you know, trying
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Speaker 1: to find balance and what I've been talking to you guys,
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Speaker 1: A lot is about.
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Speaker 2: A lot is change.
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Speaker 1: I feel things about myself changing, even though I can't
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Speaker 1: articulate everything. So as I'm trying to figure out what
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Speaker 1: those things are that are changing, why they're changing, and
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Speaker 1: how to incorporate it in my day to day and
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Speaker 1: incorporated and people I interact with and or not anymore.
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Speaker 1: A lot of times you just kind of feel like, well,
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Speaker 1: who are you to be doing all this? And it's like,
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Speaker 1: but who are you not to be? And That's what
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Speaker 1: I've been having a conversation about with myself. It's like,
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Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with you being like I'm gonna take
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Speaker 1: a weekend and just enjoy life, like you taking forty
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Speaker 1: eight hours to just breathe, eat some crabs with your family,
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Speaker 1: get off your phone. And I've been really good about this.
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Speaker 1: I've done this for at least two weekends in a row.
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Speaker 1: I'm proud of myself. Even Sunday morning for breakfast, I
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Speaker 1: was like, me and my boyfriend went to breakfast and
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Speaker 1: I was like, let's do a no phone's breakfast. And
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Speaker 1: he was like, you are going to die without that phone,
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Speaker 1: Like you're gonna be itching by the end of breakfast,
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Speaker 1: and I was like, no, let's do it. I just
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Speaker 1: think now I'm realizing how much more valuable thought, opinion, workflow,
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Speaker 1: and execution is at a high level when you really
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Speaker 1: take the time for yourself to understand who you are
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Speaker 1: in a situation and to really understand that you belong
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Speaker 1: in a situation no matter what.
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Speaker 2: You can or can't produce.
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Speaker 1: I've literally always been just as good as my last story,
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Speaker 1: all of my or my last job, all of my life.
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Speaker 1: And that's so crazy for me to say out loud.
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Speaker 1: But when I was listening to Ms Hayes talk about belonging,
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Speaker 1: and she was talking about this thing that she was
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Speaker 1: fighting with herself about admitting out loud, and fighting with
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Speaker 1: admitting out loud because it like you don't want the
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Speaker 1: devil to hear that and be able to lean in
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Speaker 1: and just do more with it. And I think that's
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Speaker 1: why I've never really talked about it as well. It's
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Speaker 1: masked in success. It's masked and always thinking you got
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Speaker 1: to be right. It's masking so much stuff. I was
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Speaker 1: sitting and just downloading so much and I'm like, girl,
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Speaker 1: you've been operating as such a I always have to
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Speaker 1: put points on the board forever, literally forever. And a
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Speaker 1: lot of that is fear, like you know, for me,
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Speaker 1: it's a lot of I want to be able to
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Speaker 1: like make sure I'm financially straight. I want to make
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Speaker 1: sure that I'm able to do things for myself that
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Speaker 1: even like my mom couldn't do, my grandmother couldn't do.
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Speaker 1: I want to make sure they're good as they get
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Speaker 1: older in age and the things that they've worked for,
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Speaker 1: you know, they're living off of and they need things replenished.
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Speaker 1: I want to be able to like really be comfortable
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Speaker 1: and enjoy my children and my family when I get
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Speaker 1: to that point. And for me, the idea of that
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Speaker 1: was always a number, like a money number. And then
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Speaker 1: I heard this missing, and I mean, and so much
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Speaker 1: in my life has been changing so fast recently, and
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Speaker 1: I think I've been really having to get in tune
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Speaker 1: with myself because I don't know what God is preparing
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Speaker 1: me for, y'all. But I'm trying to tell y'all it's
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Speaker 1: so weird. It's like being on a platform where you're
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Speaker 1: so available to everyone else will make you. You're intaking
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Speaker 1: so much or intaking so much criticism, so much thoughts,
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Speaker 1: so much opinions, so much reaction to things, and you're
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Speaker 1: also well for me, because I'm a producer, I'm also
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Speaker 1: a part of the nucleus that its creating that, right,
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Speaker 1: like creating the reaction, creating the thoughts, creating the news.
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Speaker 2: Sometimes and you get caught up on that of.
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Speaker 1: Like like that's how I show improve, Like the reaction
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Speaker 1: of other people, the emotional invoking of other people. And
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Speaker 1: the more I'm around people who operate at a high
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Speaker 1: level and actually enjoy their life and the level that
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Speaker 1: they're at, I realize that, like, it's not just about
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Speaker 1: your last job, your last win, your last w and
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Speaker 1: the chat. Like I literally think back to Charlemagne. So
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Speaker 1: last Thursday July, what's the date? Last Thursday July. Last Thursday,
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Speaker 1: July twenty third, it was announced that Charlemagne will be
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Speaker 1: receiving a star on the Hollywood Walker Fame. He is
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Speaker 1: amongst thirty two people who were selected out of one
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Speaker 1: hundreds people including you know, Keiki Palmer, Raven Simone, lul Wayne,
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Speaker 1: Grandmaster Flash, Idris Elba. Like, you know, he's a part
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Speaker 1: of this great class of people who are going to
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Speaker 1: do something as major as receiver us starting the Hollywood
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Speaker 1: Walk of Fame. And I remember when I got the
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Speaker 1: news alert about that because I subscribed to every platform
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Speaker 1: you can imagine via my phone and then you know,
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Speaker 1: family is putting it in group text and our EP
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Speaker 1: Eddie sent it to me, the Breakfast Club executive producer
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Speaker 1: sent it to me to make sure we you know,
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Speaker 1: got it to talk about in the show next day,
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Speaker 1: just making sure I saw it and mymer. My first
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Speaker 1: thought was, he's so excited right now, just about enjoying
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Speaker 1: his summer with his family. Keeps calling it a dopamine rush,
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Speaker 1: but like, you know, being out at jay Z and
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Speaker 1: seeing him excited there, and then you know, taking weekend,
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Speaker 1: you know, staycations away with his family, and his daughter
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Speaker 1: is about to go to college soon and you know
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Speaker 1: prom and all these things happened like this summer for him,
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Speaker 1: going to go see g Z, married with his wife
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Speaker 1: and having a date weekend this summer. I've literally said
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Speaker 1: to him, like, I love this little summer. You haven't
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Speaker 1: you outside? You're having a good time, like you are
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Speaker 1: really enjoying your life. And for me, I know right
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Speaker 1: now I'm in a building phase like Charlotte Mae two
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Speaker 1: hundred million up, all right, I'm in a building phase.
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Speaker 1: I'm in a different phase in my life where right now,
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Speaker 1: what I'm doing then I do enjoy a lot of it.
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Speaker 1: I've had to teach myself even that to enjoy things
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Speaker 1: as they're happening, even though I'm on such you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm boots on the ground right now. I'm really,
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Speaker 1: I'm in the thick of the grind, and I enjoy that.
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Speaker 1: But what I've had to talk myself through is you're
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Speaker 1: not prevailing through the grind. You're not surviving to learn
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Speaker 1: how to live because this is just because your last
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Speaker 1: story was great. You're surviving and you're learning now how
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Speaker 1: to live because that is what God already had destined
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Speaker 1: for you. You're in this room, you you know, on
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Speaker 1: this platform, this podcast, you have the latest with Lona
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Speaker 1: Rosa and these listeners that download because it's above you girl.
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Speaker 1: So you know my check in today? How am I
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Speaker 1: really feeling? How are y'all really feeling? And if anybody's
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Speaker 1: going through that like phase of life where I don't
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Speaker 1: know if it's changed or if I'm getting older.
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Speaker 2: I don't know what it is.
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Speaker 1: But I have just been looking for like the deeper
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Speaker 1: purpose of like my existence, not like, oh my God,
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Speaker 1: what is my existence on this earth? Like you know,
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Speaker 1: like not all of that, like you know how people
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Speaker 1: thank God and think the universe like I'm not all
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Speaker 1: like floaty like that. That's not what I'm saying. What
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Speaker 1: I'm saying is that I've really been having a conversation
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Speaker 1: with myself about like my belonging and questioning why I
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Speaker 1: think I have to give to belong like why is
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Speaker 1: that transactional in my mind?
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Speaker 4: And what?
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Speaker 1: And as that change just for me and I become
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Speaker 1: firmer and like, no, this is like I'm here, like
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Speaker 1: and I'm here because I do what I need to
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Speaker 1: do to be here. What that looks like for me
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Speaker 1: as far as like you know, how it is portrayed
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Speaker 1: in my work. So that's where I've been at with it.
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Speaker 1: And that's the kind of like middle point in between
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Speaker 1: point that I'm telling you guys about, because like even
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Speaker 1: taking a break and just being able to.
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Speaker 2: Enjoy certain things.
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Speaker 1: I used to always feel like going back home to
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Speaker 1: Delaware when I lived in LA was like so grounding
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Speaker 1: for me, Like I would i would leave and I'd
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Speaker 1: be motivated to get back to LA, motivated to get
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Speaker 1: back to work, motivated all these things. But now it's
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Speaker 1: like i leave Delaware and I'm motivated to get back
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Speaker 1: to work and I'm motivated to get you know, to
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Speaker 1: all the things. But I leave and I'm and I
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Speaker 1: leave family and not even just Delaware, but like any
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Speaker 1: interactions with people that like are in my life that
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Speaker 1: like I love, and I love to hear from it.
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Speaker 1: I love to have conversations with thinking about so much
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Speaker 1: more substance of things like what I told you guys
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Speaker 1: with Sean, I mean, like to me, the one of
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Speaker 1: the most flies things about him receiving at Walk of
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Speaker 1: Fame star announcement last week was the fact that I
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Speaker 1: knew in real life he wasn't even caught up off all.
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Speaker 2: That he was.
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Speaker 1: Literally he's just been so excited to live life and
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Speaker 1: experience things in real time. And as I'm learning to
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Speaker 1: be a personality and I'm watching you know, Charlemagne Envy,
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Speaker 1: you know, just navigate like me and Joss are literally
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Speaker 1: hear learning from them. And I say here, because I'm
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Speaker 1: in the Breakfast Club studio recording this podcast, I watch
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Speaker 1: how like that real life goes into everything, goes across
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Speaker 1: everything that they do. Now this brings me to where
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Speaker 1: we're gonna go in the Latest today, because as we
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Speaker 1: get into the Latest, y'all know, we get into the
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Speaker 1: conversations that shake the room. And I want to get
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Speaker 1: into a conversation right now that Ryan Clark had on
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Speaker 1: his podcast The Pivot. He's there with the guys or
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Speaker 1: at the Pivot and he is finally talking about what
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Speaker 1: went down with ESPN. Now, I do wish that it
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Speaker 1: had been a bit sooner. I feel like some of
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Speaker 1: the stuff that I've been seeing on social media, I
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Speaker 1: don't know, I just I don't like the theatrics around
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Speaker 1: something that I feel like could be such a great
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Speaker 1: teachable moment. I don't know, I just I'm not in
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Speaker 1: here for the performative stuff.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: Love Ryan Clark though, and everything that I know that
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Speaker 1: it is his for him. He feels like it's his
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Speaker 1: mission to stand for like all things black, black women,
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Speaker 1: like you know, all of that. But I just thought
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Speaker 1: that the conversation that he was going to have on
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Speaker 1: the Pivot about this moment with ESPN was going to
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Speaker 1: be a very real and honest conversation about what the
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Speaker 1: hell is really going on over there at ESPN. And
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Speaker 1: I do think that he got pretty honest. He definitely
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Speaker 1: got really vulnerable. He ended up breaking down in tears.
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Speaker 1: But I don't know, I just feel like it just
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Speaker 1: I can't even really put into words what I was
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Speaker 1: expecting from less to get into the conversation. You guys
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Speaker 1: make your own synopsis for so for background, for those
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Speaker 1: of you Guys who do not remember Ryan Clark, you know,
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Speaker 1: former NFL champion, also analyst. You know, he hosts The Pivot,
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Speaker 1: which is a podcast, but he was also on NFL
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Speaker 1: Live and it had been working with ESPN for over
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Speaker 1: a decade following his football career.
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Speaker 2: Was recently laid off from ESPN.
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Speaker 1: Now when this happened, I received a statement from sources
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Speaker 1: close to production over there that told me that he
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Speaker 1: was actually told during a TV break, and the reason
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Speaker 1: why he was told during the TV break was because
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Speaker 1: he like the network. They were scared that the news
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Speaker 1: was gonna was gonna break while he was on air,
18:41
Speaker 1: and he didn't want The network is saying that they
18:44
Speaker 1: didn't want him to find out from anybody else. But
18:47
Speaker 1: from what I was told and now what we've confirmed
18:50
Speaker 1: through Ryan Clark himself, is that he didn't feel like
18:52
Speaker 1: it went down that way at all. So he's basically
18:54
Speaker 1: saying he was not laid off, he was fired and
18:57
Speaker 1: that it was basically almost like there was a target
18:59
Speaker 1: on his back because he's ESPN's sick Listen, I.
19:01
Speaker 5: Think the big question is did you see it coming?
19:04
Speaker 5: Could you take us inside that moment? Yes? And no,
19:08
Speaker 5: I'm upset with myself.
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Speaker 6: From this perspective, there were signs, but I truly thought,
19:15
Speaker 6: for the first time in my life, I worked so
19:18
Speaker 6: hard at something, I was so good at something, everybody
19:22
Speaker 6: acknowledged that I was, that they couldn't fire me, That
19:27
Speaker 6: they wouldn't fire me. That a company who's going to
19:31
Speaker 6: have the Super Bowl this year, who truly wants to
19:36
Speaker 6: put their best foot forward to the entire world and
19:39
Speaker 6: have the best people talking about football, wouldn't fire In
19:44
Speaker 6: my opinion, this is my opinion, and it seems to
19:46
Speaker 6: be the opinion of many others.
19:48
Speaker 5: The best football analyst in the world. I didn't think that,
19:52
Speaker 5: and that's my fault.
19:55
Speaker 4: You know.
19:55
Speaker 6: This off season, our piece on Monday Night Football with
19:58
Speaker 6: Greg Brooks won an award, a Diversity Award, and our
20:02
Speaker 6: showrunner and our director and our producer were so excited,
20:05
Speaker 6: and there was like PR is going to post it,
20:08
Speaker 6: and it never happened, And eventually I just posted it myself,
20:10
Speaker 6: and then PR reached out like, I'm so sorry that
20:14
Speaker 6: we missed it, but the Emmys are coming up and
20:15
Speaker 6: we'll post it afterwards. And I just remember sending the
20:18
Speaker 6: text to one of the people I work with and
20:20
Speaker 6: I said, they're not going to post that they don't care.
20:22
Speaker 6: So there were just signs throughout the season, Like even now,
20:26
Speaker 6: if you look at everything for the Super Bowl year,
20:29
Speaker 6: I'm not on any of that. A guy that was
20:32
Speaker 6: supposed to be a part of Monday Night Football, a
20:34
Speaker 6: man that's supposed to be a part of NFL Live,
20:36
Speaker 6: a man that's a huge part of First Take, was
20:40
Speaker 6: a part of building get up. So to me, the
20:44
Speaker 6: signs were always there. And I called man, I called executives,
20:51
Speaker 6: I called decision makers, I called bosses. Is my schedule
20:57
Speaker 6: changing once? It looked like and it was never a
21:00
Speaker 6: definitive answer. But I think it was never a definitive
21:04
Speaker 6: answer because this.
21:06
Speaker 1: Was always and the riand Clark goes into not really
21:08
Speaker 1: being able to fully be himself, like as a black man,
21:12
Speaker 1: right and things that if he would have been able
21:15
Speaker 1: to change, And let's take a listen.
21:18
Speaker 5: To address the head down thing. What makes me a
21:22
Speaker 5: little bit.
21:24
Speaker 6: Sad about myself is I did adjust who I was
21:28
Speaker 6: to try.
21:28
Speaker 5: To keep my job.
21:32
Speaker 6: I did have meetings with people and say, Okay, what
21:36
Speaker 6: is it that you need from me?
21:38
Speaker 5: Not the analyst.
21:39
Speaker 6: The analyst was he was damn good right, if you
21:44
Speaker 6: care about the person that's on TV, what is it
21:48
Speaker 6: you need for me? Because because I want to do that,
21:51
Speaker 6: I want to build a relationship. I want to involve
21:54
Speaker 6: you in the things I'm doing. You know, Man, Like
21:57
Speaker 6: this show for three years, we never shot away from
22:02
Speaker 6: any topic. We never shot away from tackling anything. We
22:08
Speaker 6: did this year because I knew I couldn't have no beef.
22:12
Speaker 5: I knew I.
22:13
Speaker 6: Couldn't respond to disrespect, right. I knew, for lack of
22:19
Speaker 6: a better word, I couldn't be too black.
22:21
Speaker 1: Now, this is the part I was talking about, because
22:25
Speaker 1: there is conversation around Ryan Clark, and there are people
22:28
Speaker 1: who feel like, you know, a lot of things that
22:29
Speaker 1: Ryan Clark says and the things that he choose to
22:31
Speaker 1: stand for. Yes, a part of it is like, Okay,
22:35
Speaker 1: he's a black man. He knows what that's like, he
22:37
Speaker 1: knows what that where he's coming from with that. But
22:39
Speaker 1: there's a part of it where, you know, people feel
22:41
Speaker 1: like it's a bit performative.
22:44
Speaker 2: I really wanted him to get into.
22:49
Speaker 1: Like I mean, he talks about Steven, and he talks
22:51
Speaker 1: about a meeting that they had where Steven ain't let
22:53
Speaker 1: him know, like, you know, you make it some executives
22:55
Speaker 1: up set up here, but I just think that there
22:57
Speaker 1: was like a deeper surface, like let's take all of
23:01
Speaker 1: the gear off, let's de roll, like let's really strip naked,
23:06
Speaker 1: not physically, but in the sense of this conversation and
23:09
Speaker 1: get into what he's actually been experiencing at ESPN on
23:14
Speaker 1: an even more deeper detailed level, especially because and I
23:17
Speaker 1: thought that we were gonna get that, Especially because.
23:22
Speaker 2: When TMZ so I did the.
23:24
Speaker 1: Story that Ryan Clark was basically let go during the
23:26
Speaker 1: break and that he was he did not return from
23:29
Speaker 1: after the break because basically he was told that he
23:33
Speaker 1: didn't need to. TMZ shot back at my story with
23:36
Speaker 1: a headlines basically stating that Ryan Clark was not forced
23:41
Speaker 1: to leave the taping, that it was his own choice.
23:44
Speaker 1: Ryan Clark then retweeted TMZ's story on x and said,
23:49
Speaker 1: and he disputed it. He said that he was asked,
23:52
Speaker 1: or he asked after they gave him the news, should
23:54
Speaker 1: he go down, and he was said, and he was
23:57
Speaker 1: told yes and something That's what I mean, like, something's
24:03
Speaker 1: not making sense there. And I feel like he talks
24:05
Speaker 1: about it and he gives us a few things, but
24:08
Speaker 1: he never directly says certain things at the same time,
24:12
Speaker 1: and I just thought that we were gonna get that.
24:13
Speaker 2: Now, don't get me wrong.
24:14
Speaker 1: It was a great conversation, and again I think he
24:16
Speaker 1: did get very personal in the conversation, but I just
24:20
Speaker 1: felt like there was another level to it a bit.
24:22
Speaker 1: I do feel like that, and I don't know if
24:27
Speaker 1: I don't know where that will lie, if we'll get that.
24:30
Speaker 1: But he's been very honest about feeling like there was
24:32
Speaker 1: this target on his back, so I thought that he
24:33
Speaker 1: would kind of unveil the layers to the onion a
24:36
Speaker 1: bit about what the target was. But yeah, now moving
24:42
Speaker 1: on in the latest speaking of the latest child, Lately,
24:46
Speaker 1: Usher and Chris Brown have been going viral. You know,
24:49
Speaker 1: they have the tour that they're on touring all over
24:53
Speaker 1: the world, and Usher and Chris Brown were recently in Nashville.
24:59
Speaker 1: Now is a young lady that is now viral as
25:03
Speaker 1: HG double Hockey six in everywhere because Usher called her
25:06
Speaker 1: on stage. And when he called her on stage, this
25:09
Speaker 1: is what happened. Let's take a listen.
25:11
Speaker 2: I don't think she want to be on the stage. Huh, Yes,
25:15
Speaker 2: you got that right.
25:16
Speaker 1: That is Usher saying I don't think she wants to
25:18
Speaker 1: be up here.
25:19
Speaker 4: Now.
25:19
Speaker 1: I know you guys are audio listeners, so let me
25:21
Speaker 1: paint the picture for you. Normally, when Usher or Chris
25:24
Speaker 1: Brown calls girls on stage, it is like a serenade
25:28
Speaker 1: like Beyonce Cater, Destiny's Child, Cater do you moment. But
25:34
Speaker 1: the fan that they call on stage only gives a
25:36
Speaker 1: little something bad, whether it's a touch or singing along
25:40
Speaker 1: or you know, like there's something that we're watching, especially
25:42
Speaker 1: when Chris Brown called him girls on stage.
25:44
Speaker 2: But you know Chris Brown, I don't know if he's
25:46
Speaker 2: full of single.
25:46
Speaker 1: I know he recently had a baby with you know, Jada,
25:49
Speaker 1: who is believed to be his girlfriend.
25:52
Speaker 2: But Chris Brown be getting it in on that stage, Okay.
25:54
Speaker 1: I mean it be the humping, it be the thrusting,
25:56
Speaker 1: to be all the things, the girls be throwing it back.
25:58
Speaker 2: It's insane.
25:59
Speaker 1: Usher's it's a bit more if you've ever been I
26:01
Speaker 1: went to his Vegas residency too, and he did this
26:03
Speaker 1: during his residency where it's like he's a showman, so
26:05
Speaker 1: he's serenading the women making them feel good. There was
26:07
Speaker 1: one point in his residency in Vegas where he was
26:10
Speaker 1: even making a little fake drinks. I think they were fake,
26:13
Speaker 1: but he was making drinks on the stage for the
26:15
Speaker 1: people as they came up. But anyway, so this girl
26:18
Speaker 1: comes on stage and she is like smising a little bit,
26:22
Speaker 1: which is like smiling with your eyes for those people
26:24
Speaker 1: who didn't all watch America's like something model. And she's smiling,
26:27
Speaker 1: but like she's really not giving him much at all.
26:30
Speaker 1: Like when I say giving them much, I mean I
26:33
Speaker 1: at least would think like a hen would go on
26:35
Speaker 1: his back and like she would grab him behind the
26:38
Speaker 1: neck or singing a song back to them or something.
26:41
Speaker 2: Now this one viral.
26:42
Speaker 1: Okay, the young lady who is a nurse from according
26:47
Speaker 1: to what we're learning about her online, has spoken out,
26:49
Speaker 1: and she spoke out, and she was really upset. She
26:52
Speaker 1: says that people were even trying to get at her
26:55
Speaker 1: as she was leaving the show, because the girls was like, yo,
26:57
Speaker 1: you wasted the opportunity.
26:58
Speaker 2: Sis, let's take a listen.
27:00
Speaker 4: Even people harassing me while I was walking out of stadium.
27:04
Speaker 2: Really, while me and my family was walking out of.
27:07
Speaker 4: The stadium, people were harassing us. Oh, well you should
27:10
Speaker 4: have did this. I would have did this were you
27:14
Speaker 4: available to go on the stage is.
27:15
Speaker 2: What I'm trying to understand now.
27:16
Speaker 1: She is also posted some things online shooting back at
27:19
Speaker 1: the hater, saying like.
27:19
Speaker 2: Look, I was cute.
27:21
Speaker 1: I looked cute, So I be danged if I don't
27:25
Speaker 1: get up there on that stage and let the whole
27:26
Speaker 1: you know, let all the people see me. But then
27:29
Speaker 1: her aunt came out and said she had a boyfriend
27:32
Speaker 1: and a child, and she kept it cute because of that,
27:34
Speaker 1: And I think the girls are just trying to figure out,
27:36
Speaker 1: why get up on the stage if you're going to
27:38
Speaker 1: do all of that, and like, if you're not going
27:39
Speaker 1: to feed into it, why I get up on the stage?
27:41
Speaker 1: I will say. I mean, it's not like she could
27:45
Speaker 1: have took her clothes off and it could have got
27:46
Speaker 1: busy on the stage. I'm sure it is a married man,
27:48
Speaker 1: she has a person she went home too. But I
27:50
Speaker 1: did think that if you were going to get up
27:52
Speaker 1: on the stage, you would at least give a little
27:54
Speaker 1: something to something, because you know, according to what this
27:57
Speaker 1: young woman and her family who've now come out online
28:00
Speaker 1: in her defense have said, they were moved from floor
28:04
Speaker 1: seats over to the VIP and then told like, oh,
28:06
Speaker 1: we're gonna try to get you on stage.
28:08
Speaker 2: So if you know that and you're.
28:09
Speaker 1: Down to go on stage, and she said she was
28:12
Speaker 1: there for Chris Brown, but then it's still I feel
28:15
Speaker 1: like if you played it cute because of the man
28:18
Speaker 1: at home and the baby, and you know, just trying
28:20
Speaker 1: to keep it cute, you want to give Chris Brown
28:22
Speaker 1: much either, I don't know. I wouldn't have went on stage,
28:24
Speaker 1: Like if my man is at home, whether my man
28:26
Speaker 1: was at that concert, specially what the man at the concert,
28:28
Speaker 1: you're on stage, it's crazy, But if my man is
28:30
Speaker 1: at home, I'm not getting on the stage to participate.
28:34
Speaker 2: I'm just not doing it.
28:36
Speaker 1: And I think that's why the girls were upset, Like
28:37
Speaker 1: girl Thiss was the ones in the lifetime opportunity and
28:40
Speaker 1: you ain't even take advantage of it. But I think
28:43
Speaker 1: the fact that there's so much upset around this, Like
28:45
Speaker 1: I saw this on page six, I saw it on
28:47
Speaker 1: Daily Mail. I know TMZ covered it. We're talking about
28:50
Speaker 1: here on the Latest. It hit the Shade Room, neighborhood
28:52
Speaker 1: talk like this was so viral. The fact that this
28:56
Speaker 1: was so viral, I think the next young lady who
28:59
Speaker 1: goes I rot from this Usher concert is some pressure
29:02
Speaker 1: on her. Now she gotta go up because the public
29:06
Speaker 1: who ain't attend a concert. We've only been seeing this
29:08
Speaker 1: through those viral moments, more so with Usher, I'm sorry,
29:12
Speaker 1: more so with Chris Brown and Usher. The last viral
29:14
Speaker 1: moment on the Usher side of it was when Dave
29:16
Speaker 1: Chappelle popped out of one of the shows and it
29:18
Speaker 1: looked literally looked like a Dave Chapelle's skit because of
29:20
Speaker 1: the face that Dave Chappelle was making. The next young
29:23
Speaker 1: lady that goes up there, baby, it's some pressure on you, okay,
29:27
Speaker 1: because miss cute little nurse from Chattanooga, Tennessee, then mess
29:33
Speaker 1: it up.
29:33
Speaker 2: For the girls. Ain't gotta get there and show im
29:35
Speaker 2: proof again.
29:37
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be on that stage if I was an artist.
29:40
Speaker 1: I honestly, I always wonder about this, like do they
29:42
Speaker 1: have the girl sign something like I would even be
29:45
Speaker 1: I would as an artist. I would be nervous about
29:47
Speaker 1: even any of this, like any of it like the
29:51
Speaker 1: girl getting up on stage, going viral, having to handle
29:53
Speaker 1: all the critics touching it the wrong way, or anything.
29:56
Speaker 2: Like people are so weird with like lawsuits and stuff
29:58
Speaker 2: like that.
29:58
Speaker 1: That wouldn't be doing it int it's twenty six, but hey,
30:01
Speaker 1: if I check out the Chris browna Usher concert and
30:04
Speaker 1: the girl's been on stage, I'll be definitely back here
30:05
Speaker 1: talking about it because I'm a watch from my seat.
30:08
Speaker 2: Real cute. That has been another episode of the Latest
30:11
Speaker 2: with Lorna Rosa.
30:11
Speaker 1: I tell you, guys, every single episode, you could be
30:14
Speaker 1: anywhere with any old body, but you choose to be
30:16
Speaker 1: right back here with me, my low Riders. I appreciate you,
30:19
Speaker 1: and I'll catch you and my next one