Latest / The Crazy Sheet - CFB Handicapping / Episode 29: ACC & PAC-12 Betting Preview
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- 0:00Ladies and gentlemen. Boys and girls, it's your favorite time of the week
- 0:03where you pull your podcasting app bout, you get something cold to drink.
- 0:06Unless you're on the way to work in the morning, you download the Crazy
- 0:08Sheet and you get read and talk some college football. I'm markt. I'm
- 0:11here in the college football podcasting studio and Scottie, I think it's actually at
- 0:15home today, Scotty, how the hell are you? And I'm good.
- 0:19They've been working local for a couple of days. My son's birthday is tomorrow.
- 0:23Nice to get to be at home. So teenager's first middle school football
- 0:29meeting tonight. So go to get pitted for the pads and everything so you'll
- 0:35be ready to roll. That is exciting. That's exciting, oh, Scotty.
- 0:39So you know wild news as you're coming into the Since the last time
- 0:42we recorded, Colorado has announced that they are leaving the PAC twelve, which
- 0:48I don't know that that even get the radar with anybody in the PAC twelve.
- 0:53Colorado. I look today they are since they have left the Big twelve
- 0:56to move to the PAC twelve. I think they're twenty nine and seventy six
- 1:00in league play since they left the conference ten Smie years ago, and Mike
- 1:04mcincar won but four of those games, something like five of those games in
- 1:10a year, and then they promptly fired. Oh but man, so they're
- 1:15moving on. Jim Harball looks to be suspended for four games to open up
- 1:21the Michigan season. I don't even know what that is about. But their
- 1:25schedule opening up is so easy. I don't think it's really gonna matter.
- 1:27This Michigan roster is deep, and so it's you know, college football is
- 1:32getting closed. Camps are opening up for just about everybody should be open.
- 1:36I would think by the end of this week, as we record this on
- 1:38August the first, as we get ready for some week zero games and week
- 1:42one, I am damned excited. How about yourself? Me too? My
- 1:48man, Harball didn't properly shut down during COVID. He just kept on rolling.
- 1:53But he's like he was cheating. You ain't cheating. You're not trying,
- 1:56baby, I go by nineteen eighties, big eighth football. Baby,
- 2:00let's go. Let's if you're not cheating, you're not trying. Let's go.
- 2:05If we're just talking about practice, right, just talking about practice,
- 2:08I mean, what's a big deal anyway, It's funny Coast gonna cost COVID,
- 2:13It's gonna cost hardball four games, and it costs Arizona State just had
- 2:19to fire Herm. They went on a fire Herm because he was the only
- 2:22one actually working during COVID. It sounded like so um, it's just I
- 2:25mean, it's still wild to me that we almost didn't play football three years
- 2:30ago. But on to this year, baby fired up. We'll get rolling
- 2:34with the Accuh. This league is a mess to me, So it's gonna
- 2:38be kind of gonna be kind of fun. There is. I think there
- 2:42is some teams that are gonna surprise some people this year. Good and bad.
- 2:47Yeah. I think some teams may go the wrong way, and I
- 2:51think some teams may come up that people aren't expecting. Big part ACC no
- 2:55more divisions, so we get the type two talk about a big move for
- 3:00a four team playoff. I like the ACC. Here you get a Clemson
- 3:05Florida State rematch and they've each only got a loss or maybe two. Man,
- 3:12you talk about getting in, they're in. I mean that let's say
- 3:15Clemson loses and that's their only losses to Florida State. They come back and
- 3:20let's say Florida States, let's say they're eleven and one. Let's even say
- 3:24they're ten and two, but they lost to LSU, and the winner of
- 3:29that game's gonna bake the playoff. I'm telling you they'll make the playoff if
- 3:32it shakes out just like that. So I think a good move for ACC
- 3:37here to to do away with the divisions and try to get the best teams
- 3:40and supplement them in. Yeah, so today we're gonna do two. We're
- 3:45gonna do a double episode. We're gonna do ACC and the PAC twelve kind
- 3:47of like we're back into the Big twelve and the Big ten together. So
- 3:51we're trying to run through this. I'll throw it out there. Let's get
- 3:54this thing rolled in Scotty. When you're looking at the ACC, it's extremely
- 3:58top heavy, and Clemson and Florida State, both of these teams or you
- 4:01can still get plus money on both of these teams to win the conference.
- 4:04The way I bet it was is I actually bet both of these teams.
- 4:08I got Florida State at plus one seventy five and I got Clemson at plus
- 4:13one fifty. So I'm looking to hedge myself. Into making a profit on
- 4:16that game, because I think both of those teams are going to be in
- 4:19and I think they will rematch and play this game again after they play it
- 4:23earlier on in the season. The game the first game they plays at Clemson
- 4:27in Florida States. And the reason I went this way instead of going with
- 4:30an over in their schedules is Florida State could easily easily finished September n B
- 4:38two and two. I mean, they open up in Orlando against LSU,
- 4:42and then they have to go on the road to Boston College and to Clemson
- 4:45and back to back weeks to get through September, and then after that their
- 4:48schedule is extremely manageable. Obviously, they're gonna have Miami and Florida at the
- 4:53back end of their schedule. That's there, and that one little road trip
- 4:56to pitt But I don't I don't trust Miami or Florida and what's going on.
- 5:00And so I could easily see this team being ten and two, being
- 5:03back in the ACC Championship game against a Clemson football team, or they could
- 5:09even be eleven and one, but we'll see. But I like, I
- 5:11like Florida State and Clemson and the two teams to bet to win the championship,
- 5:15but I don't necessarily like either one of their season win totals. Yeah,
- 5:18I'm right there with you. Although I really like Clemson and I know
- 5:23that sounds strange. Here's the reason I don't want to bet there over under
- 5:27win total. I believe. I believe that a QB play is going to
- 5:31be significantly better for them. I mean, at the end of the day,
- 5:35Garrett Riley did a wonderful job last year coordinating that offense. And look,
- 5:40I know Dike's is an offensive guy, so it's not all on him.
- 5:44But Riley's done a nice job everywhere he's been. I think I expect
- 5:48Club Nick to play much better than we saw the combination of he and Ngela
- 5:54Lele last year. So if that's the case, Clemson, look is a
- 6:00legitimate National championship football team. He's a great athlete, so he can run
- 6:04the football getting out its face. They try to keep him from doing that.
- 6:09I think you're gonna see Riley Moore hey make some plays with your feet
- 6:12when I spread dudes out all over the field. So the real question mark,
- 6:15look, Shipley is a really really good player, Is it ma FA
- 6:19or mahai Fa. I can't remember the backup kids. I mean, heck,
- 6:24he ran promise thousand yards too. Are really good player. I think
- 6:27they got great backs, like their offensive line. Love the defense. They
- 6:31recruit really well, always have on that defensive side of the football. Plud
- 6:35thinks the key the reason I'm not taking him is that it is a risk.
- 6:39You don't know what you're gonna get. But I really like them for
- 6:43a Natty for a makeup playoff, for a makeup playoff kind of role,
- 6:48that is a big deal. I think you're getting one of the three seventy
- 6:51five, three seventy something like that. For them to make the playoff,
- 6:55that is a legit opportunity. If club nick's good. Look you're you're not
- 7:00talking about you got a better ton of money to make good money. It's
- 7:04worth the risk there, and you're not you're getting odds, not laying odds.
- 7:10I really liked that number because the bottom line is that this team goes
- 7:13twelve and one, they're gonna win the They're gonna make the playoff. That's
- 7:17bottom line. Yeah, I like that. I'm very interested. You know.
- 7:19The one knock I've had on Clemson the last couple of years has been
- 7:23that they don't have We've talked about this at nauseum. They just didn't have
- 7:27receivers that could separate. I mean, they've got guys that are in the
- 7:30NFL right now that are wide receivers that are about to get their second contracts,
- 7:32like big contracts, right and we haven't seen that. But I also
- 7:36wonder how fucked up do you think DJ's head was over the last two seasons.
- 7:43I mean, that guy last year, look at this conference last year.
- 7:46How different it is from last year to this year. Last year this
- 7:48conference had DJU who was a Heisman candidate front runner. You had, you
- 7:56know, uh, the kid at NC State was gonna be a Heisman front
- 7:59runner. That didn't work out, and so it's a massive shift in what's
- 8:03gone here. But I think DJ was just bad headspace man, super head
- 8:07trash and they finally had to pull him and set him down and Club Nick,
- 8:11I don't think they really wanted to cut that kid loose, because I
- 8:15agree with you, you lose him. I don't know what they had behind
- 8:16him, And so that's where I always sat with Clemson. And then in
- 8:20the bowl game, you know, it is what it is, and that's
- 8:24by But I just I like club Nick. I watched the kid playing high
- 8:26school. I think it was Game Elevates. But the other thing too,
- 8:30is I think Riley that offense has got to evolve. TCUs offense was a
- 8:35lot more creative last year. I mean, where are you going to see
- 8:37somebody like Quentin Diggs doing a stick dig you know, Quentin Johnson doing a
- 8:41stick digger out That guy six four two twenty and runs twenty three miles an
- 8:46hour, you know, And so he created space and just didn't make him
- 8:50high point balls all the time. And that's what Riley's done a pretty good
- 8:54job of. And for the fact that that Dabo went outside the family tree
- 9:00to bring in the offensive and defensive coordinator this year is a good sign to
- 9:03me because Dabo has been real slow to evolve to where we're at in college
- 9:07football, and I think him recognizing that. And then it's also real quiet
- 9:11out of Clemson. So I like Clemson to win the conference. I bet
- 9:16them both plus money. I had not bet them to win to make the
- 9:20Final four yet, but I probably sprinkle a little bit there, and I'm
- 9:22gonna take a little bit of maybe to them to win the Natty. With
- 9:24the plus, I think you can get it up to fifteen to one,
- 9:28and so I don't dislike that at all, but I do think the conference
- 9:31is really top heavy. I don't see anybody else in this conference that I
- 9:35could see contending to win, barring massive injuries to you know, the quarterback
- 9:41play at Florida State or Clemson. I don't see anybody else that can rise
- 9:43up out of the ashes to show up in Charlotte to play for this one
- 9:46to win it. The only theme I'll tell you that I think can rise
- 9:50up. And that does give me to my first over underplaybook. Before we
- 9:52leave Clemson, I want to say, look to tell you what I think
- 9:56about Tony Elliott's offensive Clemson, what this offense was like before looking how bad
- 10:01Brennan Armstrong was last year. And we're gonna talk about him in a little
- 10:05bit too, but just look look at how bad he was in that offense.
- 10:11I mean, that guy was incredible. He and Keyton Thompson were like
- 10:16a video game. Both of them come back and both of them are awful
- 10:20last year. Make no plays whatsoever. The bottom line is coaching. It's
- 10:24it is coaching, and I think Riley gets them into space, opens this
- 10:30offense up. They got two explosive backs, one of them can really catch
- 10:33the football, and I think, man, you see all kinds of stuff,
- 10:37and he got a quarterback who can run, and I just think,
- 10:41in this offense, it's got a chance to put up big numbers. They
- 10:43got a chance to open some eyes, much much like TCU did. Because
- 10:48at the end of the day, this is a hell of a lot better
- 10:50roster than TCU was rolling out last year. Dot the bottom and ain't closed,
- 10:54but at the end of the day, skill positions, it's not close,
- 10:58and so I think, I think this is a really good opportunity.
- 11:01So the one team I think, ken step up and this is my first
- 11:05over and underplay. I like PIT, I think I think first first,
- 11:13First, I like Dracovid coming over the BC. He's reuniting with his old
- 11:18offensive coordinator at BC. That's a big part. He put up much better
- 11:22numbers under Signetti. Stignetti not new to PIT. This is his second standard
- 11:28PIT, so I think he knows what he gets and what he can do.
- 11:33I really like this marriage combined with a hard nosed football team that NARDIUSI
- 11:37always puts out. They're never the most talented team. It always seems like
- 11:41he under a cheese. I don't think anybody saw those dudes win in nine
- 11:46games last year that they're a good football team, a well coached football team.
- 11:52Looks like they got enough players back that I think they're going to be
- 11:54able to do some things. They could be a surprise football team. But
- 11:58at the end of the day, I really like those guys on an over
- 12:03under win total playing the over for pitt. I know most people are shocked
- 12:09that I'm taking over, but it's worth laying the minus one forty to me
- 12:13at six and a half. I think this team wins eight or nine games
- 12:16because you look at this schedule. They missed Miami, they miss Clemson,
- 12:22right, and then they get Wake at home, they get Notre Dame at
- 12:26home, they get Duke at home, they get Virginia Tech at home,
- 12:30and they get West Virginia at home. Excuse me, they're on Sorry I
- 12:35said that back, because they're on the road at West Virginia. I must
- 12:37read myndotes. They're at Virginia Tech, they're at Wake, and they're at
- 12:41Notre Dame. They're not gonna beat Notre Dame. Either way, they're they're
- 12:45at Duke. Every one of those road games is winnable except Notre Dame.
- 12:48And they get Florida State at home, they get Syracuse at home, they
- 12:52get North Carolina at home, and they get Cincinnati at home. They win
- 12:56those home games, and this is gonna be an A or nine win football
- 13:01team. And then you got Wofford out of conference. I mean you got
- 13:03some games that you got some games they could win. They're gonna drill West
- 13:07Virginia. I think week three in the Border War, I think they're gonna
- 13:11hammer West Virginia. So at the end of the day, I liked this
- 13:16football team. I think they're a team that can sneak up and beat some
- 13:20people. And at the end of the day, I like Nardoozy. I
- 13:24like his offensive coordinated reuniting with Jakovic, and I think they may put up
- 13:28some good numbers. I like this. You know, Jakovic when he was
- 13:33healthy at BC was making some waves up there. And so I can get
- 13:37down with what you're selling on this a little bit. I haven't bet it
- 13:41yet, just because the numbers are a little stretched out, but in the
- 13:43books that I have access to. But yeah, I like put a lot.
- 13:46I'm really looking forward to when they pound the ship out of the Big
- 13:50twelve. The week two and three when they beat Since and went in West
- 13:54Virginia and back to back games, and that West Virginia games a huge rivalry
- 13:58for these teams. I'm glad to see their play it again. I don't
- 14:01know if it's on the scale of the future, but I like the spot
- 14:03staying in the ac mark before we leave talking about Signetti and Drakovic re ninety
- 14:09he threw for twenty five fifty eight sixty one percent completion, seventeen touchdowns in
- 14:15five interceptions in twenty under six eight. He does that this year in pitt
- 14:22and they may win. They may be one of the guys in the championship
- 14:26game that they're gonna be a good football team if he puts up those kinds
- 14:31of numbers again. So anyway, on to the next team. Two teams
- 14:37that I am going under on for different reasons. But I have no love
- 14:41for wake for us this season whatsoever. You know, they run that slow
- 14:46mesh offense that Hartman did a really good job with when he was there,
- 14:50But you're constantly in a dirty pocket and their defense is not strong whatsoever.
- 14:54So this year, having to break in a new quarterback, over underwent totals
- 14:58at six and a half half in this one, and you can get it
- 15:01out about minus one fifteen. I like wake Forest in the under in this
- 15:05situation. And then the next one I got is Virginia. Virginia is fucking
- 15:11terrible. I mean they're over unders three and a half now juiced up to
- 15:15one thirty. I snagged a little bit at one twenty a couple of weeks
- 15:18ago. But I'm with you with Tony Elliott. I have no idea what's
- 15:22going on over there, and their roster's bad offensively, I got no faith
- 15:26in what they're doing, and so I you just in their schedule is not
- 15:30that easy, and so when you you look at this one, it's it's
- 15:33a it's mind boggling to me to think that how's UVA going to get to
- 15:37four wins? Because I actually think there's some teams that are improved in this
- 15:41this conference this year, but they're rug but they're but the records may not
- 15:45dictate it when the season's over. You mean, like, yes, exactly
- 15:50one, I think they're significantly better. And I think that wolver under win
- 15:54total at six is right on the money. Yeah, I mean, it's
- 15:56like, if you look at that schedule, we're like, man, how
- 15:58are they do is gonna do that again? But they are a better football
- 16:03team there. They are a better football team than they were last year.
- 16:06But also think they may a snuck couple some guys thinking this as the same
- 16:08old duke and ain't gonna be that way. You get your you get hit
- 16:12in the mouth, and next year you come back. You're like, all
- 16:15right, we're gonna get these dudes back. We're not supposed to be losing
- 16:18the duke, you know. So it's a so we'll see. But from
- 16:22a roster standpoint, they're a better football team than they were last year.
- 16:26I just, man, it's hard for me looking at that schedule to figure
- 16:30out how they're gonna get back. There. Another team that I really like,
- 16:33and I'm gonna stay with the same thing that I'm saying about coaching.
- 16:37We're gonna talk about Brennan Armstrong. I said, we talk about him.
- 16:41I like NC stake going over that number I believe is it's six and a
- 16:47half right now, Yeah, six and a half. Again, I'm willing
- 16:51to lay the jews to go over at the one at the mine one one
- 16:56forty five, dependent on your book. I'm willing to lay that number simply
- 17:00for this. Brennan Armstrong might have been the best quarterback in the league that
- 17:04year. I know Orkan had a really good year or two, but he
- 17:07played great. I mean, he was really outstanding. He reunites with his
- 17:11offensive coordinator, and that's a big deal, as Robert and I who did
- 17:15a really good job at Syracuse last year. Garry Schrader did really well in
- 17:19this offense. And NC State is one of those teams that just always seems
- 17:26to overachieve and overachieve, and I feel like he gets the most out of
- 17:30the team. And look, at the end of the day, they're flying
- 17:33under the dark. There's not nearly as much stress on these guys. Doran
- 17:37always seems like he does a good job as there is on Mike Brown and
- 17:41on North Carolina, certainly not as much as Miami and those and those guys
- 17:47have got going on. I mean, lord, they got an old guy,
- 17:49but get arrested for fraud evidently, or income tax evasion or whatever.
- 17:55I mean, it's a total mess down there. Those things way that you
- 17:59can't tell me. Some of those kids in Miami aren't like, well,
- 18:00am I gonna give my money? A lot of those dudes are there for
- 18:03money. I mean, at the end of the day, you're paying people
- 18:07and they stop getting paid. Man, you talk about a mess. It
- 18:11could fall apart at Miami fast, that's don't think that's going to go on.
- 18:15At NC State, they got a lot of players back. Defensively,
- 18:18they always do a really really good job and they always always run the football
- 18:23pretty well. So I like NC State. I think they got a chance
- 18:26to surprise some people in the league. Could not agree more on both your
- 18:30unders or to think both of those teams are really really going to struggle this
- 18:37year. The other team that I can't decide on Miami, I just can't.
- 18:45Like, I think seven and a half right about where they ought to
- 18:47be, you know, so I can't. I keep thinking their offensive coordinator
- 18:53change is going to be an improvement and the quarterback's going to get back to
- 18:56what he was two years ago, But how much of that is is changed
- 19:02from the head coach And you know, at the end of the day,
- 19:07read whatever his name is, that was that was the offensive coordinator for them.
- 19:11I mean he had free reign at the offense because defense Z was really
- 19:14running defense as much as anything. So it's a huge ship in Miami,
- 19:18and I think he's got to put up you know, I think I got
- 19:22to see him put up numbers before I buy back into Van Dyke, even
- 19:26though I think he's going to be even though I think he's a really really
- 19:29good player. So that's where I'm at. Kind of on the acc,
- 19:32I think everybody else, their numbers are kind of right where I think they're
- 19:36going to finish. So let me ask you this question. Talking about Miami,
- 19:41I have covered the conclusion that Mario crystal Ball is not a very good
- 19:44coach, and I've listened to some different guys that I like in the media
- 19:48talking about how Micro manages stuff, like all the way down to when he
- 19:52was in Oregon, he literally had to approve every graphic that they were going
- 19:55to post on social media, which I was like, Man, if you've
- 19:57got that kind of time, holy how But the dude can recruit. The
- 20:03roster at Oregon was solid. His roster at Miami is much better than when
- 20:07he got there. I kind of think he may be Jimbo Fisher. He
- 20:11can recruit. He can get the players on campus and it looks good on
- 20:14paper, but once it comes time for game day, you know, unless
- 20:18he's got a difference maker like jimbo Had and James, I don't know if
- 20:22he can get over the hump. I mean, I bet I bet A
- 20:23and M over seven and a half wins. That's not a stretch and that's
- 20:26an eight and fourteen, right. But this Miami team is super confusing to
- 20:32me. And I you know, Josh Gaddis left, He's gone, and
- 20:34there's a lot of people that thought he was gonna be toxic in Miami.
- 20:37Well he's up at Maryland now, which totally pisses me off because I want
- 20:41to bet on Maryland in the Big ten. And I'm not a big Josh
- 20:44Gaddis fan, but yea, So it's one of those things that's But looking
- 20:49at this Miami roster, it's not bad. They did a good job through
- 20:52the portal. Travis fan Dyke two years ago was exciting and so I'm really
- 20:57looking forward to that game week two, week three, September nine, whatever
- 21:02it is, when Miami and Texas A and M matchup in Miami, to
- 21:06see if anybody rolls out there. So yeah, I like NC State.
- 21:10I haven't bet them yet if I'll play that, but I do look to
- 21:12play NC State in some hard nosed spots. You're gonna laugh. I kind
- 21:17of like Yukon against NC State week one, and I'm just hoping everybody's just
- 21:22gonna like sit there and go UT's an NC State versus Ukon team that blows
- 21:25and not realize that Yukon teams actually much better than what people think it is.
- 21:30And I like in the other game, I like I like James Madison
- 21:33week two against Virginia if you're just trying to pick some nuggets out there,
- 21:37because James Madison last year came into Vision one and Rex shop on folks,
- 21:41and this is an opportunity for them to get to punch big brother in the
- 21:45mouth. These two teams are not that far apart in the state of Virginia,
- 21:48and I like James Madison to get it done here. I think they
- 21:52may actually have a better roster than Virginia does currently. But yeah, the
- 21:55ACC is probably the least interesting conference in the country to me this season.
- 22:00I don't know how much I'll watch. I do think they've got some good
- 22:03top end talent, but top to bottom. It's not that great. And
- 22:08UNC with Drake May you know, they're talking about him being the top player
- 22:12drafted quarterback wise next year maybe him and Caleb Williams. Chisi's done an awful
- 22:18job with this defense, and I don't know if it's that he can't get
- 22:22some dogs in there, and then you you lose the you know, Phil
- 22:25Longo's moved on to Wisconsin, A lot of hype around that, and a
- 22:27lot of hype around Wisconsin, and then you bring in Chip Lindsay to UNC,
- 22:30and I don't know that they'll like to move. So I'm very much
- 22:33hold and watched to see what's going to happen with North Carolina. Well,
- 22:37you know that you're gonna love this. So they first year, they brought
- 22:41in a new DC, brought him over from that defensive wrecking house of Indiana.
- 22:49And although I do all do I do like God Throwlton Warren. I
- 22:53do think he's pretty good coach CHESSI kind of taking morning an advisory role.
- 22:57They got a couple of quote unquote coach coordinators, but Warren's gonna be the
- 23:03guy that calls the plays. I believe here's the difference for me. I
- 23:06think they downgraded at offensive coordinators significantly. I'm not a gigantic chip Lindsay fan
- 23:14um and so I think I am gonna I think I'm gonna sell on this.
- 23:18I just I think this team's talented. Mack Brown another one of these
- 23:22guys that can recruit. He is getting older. But at the end of
- 23:26the day, I think it's over underwin totals right right where it is.
- 23:30If if there is a team I could see falling under, it's it's these
- 23:37guys. I mean that over underwin totals at eight and a half and it
- 23:41ranks and I could see these guys win in seven games. I really could
- 23:45you get the end of the schedule Duke at home at Clemson and say,
- 23:52you bet your bottom dollar I can see him losing two out of three of
- 23:53those. And you know, anybody gonna be surprised. They lose to Miami
- 23:57at home, they lose at pit they played Minnesota at home, they played
- 24:03neutral field in South Carolina first ball game. They're littack. It ain't hard
- 24:07for me to see if they struggle offensively at all, if this team could
- 24:11lose four or five games, who now we're getting somewhere. So the ACC
- 24:17to me and said, not very interesting. It's an odd conference. You
- 24:21know, they've gone through the TV contract deal. They're kind of flirting with
- 24:23her. They're gonna let the Magnificent Seven have more of the money or what
- 24:27they're gonna do. I have no idea, but I am just you know,
- 24:30I could I could easily see the SEC in the dark grabbing NC,
- 24:36you know, grabbing North Carolina, Duke, Florida State, and Clemson and
- 24:41putting them into the SEC umbrella. And you do that in the ACC might
- 24:47as well be KUSA at that point, because there's not a whole lot of
- 24:49fanfare that rolls around that one thing. I do want to bring up Scottie.
- 24:53We didn't talk about it, but our man is still coaching. He
- 24:57will be rocking the three three five in the Carrier Dome this year as Rocky
- 25:02Long will be seventy three years old as the new defensive coordinator for Syracuse University.
- 25:08And I am kind of looking forward to this because you know, Syracuse
- 25:11last year went away from the running gun that they had been running more of
- 25:15that Art Brile style with Gino Babers and Bryan Garrett Schrader and Schrader had a
- 25:18great season last year. I grant he's got a new OC, but I
- 25:22I think Schrader's pretty exciting. I'm kind of interested in Syracuse to watch,
- 25:26but I don't have any play on him at this point. But I am
- 25:29looking forward to seeing Rocky Long defense in the ACC That shouldn't be fun.
- 25:33I told you my thoughts on this. I have no knowledge of this whatsoever,
- 25:37but this feels like a little payback. He recommended Zach Arnette for that
- 25:41job a couple of years ago. He had committed to going to New Mexico
- 25:45to help. Barnette stayed for about eight minutes when he got the offer.
- 25:49He accepted the job, and then got offered the Mississippi state defensive coordinator job,
- 25:56and he failed. And I think that was a good decision for him
- 26:00pretty clearly. I think this is a little bit of Rocky Long. Hey,
- 26:03let me come make it up to y'all. I'll coach for a year
- 26:07or two for you, and we'll get this thing right. So because I
- 26:11think Baber's needed I think he needed that, and I look, I think
- 26:14it's gonna be a big part of it. They've got to get better defensively.
- 26:17And I think this will be interesting to see see how that works.
- 26:19And now onto what I think maybe mark the most fun league that nobody's gonna
- 26:30watch this entire year, the PAC twelve. Baby, I look, in
- 26:34two years, we're not even gonna know where to find them. I don't
- 26:37even know if you can't. I mean all those games on the pack.
- 26:40I own every sports baggage you can physically get, and I seriously was looking
- 26:45last year. I couldn't find a PAC twelve network. I'm like, why
- 26:48do I not have this anymore? I'm like, I've got nine subscription services,
- 26:52Mike, how in the world can I not find this? And then
- 26:55they sport out today we're going streaming service on Apples are playing. Oh but
- 27:00it's a tiered service that is a complete recipe for disaster market, total disaster.
- 27:07Hell. These schools don't even watch their teams play. I mean,
- 27:11I don't know. The only people that are gonna pay it for an Apple
- 27:14subscripture gonna be a bunch of SEC and Big ten fans that want to watch
- 27:17football all my it's And you know what's crazy, there's some really good teams
- 27:22in the PAC twelve this year, and like Pets and the quarterback play in
- 27:26the PAC twelve this year is gonna be off the chain. I mean,
- 27:30he's got You've got DJ's up there at Oregon at the Oregon stat thing.
- 27:33He's gonna win at bow Nicks is at Oregon. You got the Heisman Trophy
- 27:37winner at USC. You've got that freshman coming in. Uh, you got
- 27:41a Washington, you got the kid back at You Talk. You can go
- 27:45on and on and look the kid at Arizona. He is all over the
- 27:52play. I mean this it really does have a really good quarterback. I
- 27:56think this lake is gonna be super fun to watch watch and unfortunately a lot
- 28:02of people aren't gonna be able to see. That's just the bottom line.
- 28:04Yeah, you got no idea. So yeah, the PAC twelve moving out
- 28:08west. Whatever's gonna come with the PAC twelve. I do not If the
- 28:12PAC twelve does not have something sustainable in place within the next I would say
- 28:18three weeks, it's gonna go completely dormant, and then I think the PAC
- 28:22twelve just implodes by the time you get to the end of the year.
- 28:26Yeah, I would Mark, I would love to really know what the SEC
- 28:33And look, there's about five people in America that really know what's going on
- 28:37on these these calls. I would love to know what the SEC in the
- 28:40Big Twelve we're discussing. I mean, aren't you really at this point,
- 28:45aren't aren't they really think, all right, how big can we physically get?
- 28:49Because look, I don't care what Florida State's got to pay. I
- 28:53don't care what clums has got to pay. They would rip forward to get
- 28:56in the SEC. Now I don't. I'll be candids. I don't know
- 29:00if they want Florida State and that not clearly not because of talent or school.
- 29:04I think there's gonna be a lot of fight within the league to not
- 29:07take them because of recruiting. I don't think nearly as much for Clemson because
- 29:14Clemson's already a brand and they're recruiting. Florida State's trying to build back,
- 29:18Auburn makes a living in that area where they are a lot like going on
- 29:22down there. But I do think North Carolina and Duke or North Carolina Virginia.
- 29:30Man, all of a sudden, this gets to be a really big
- 29:32basketball league and just I mean, it just makes the baseball league that much
- 29:37better if you start adding a Florida, State of Clemson, North Carolina.
- 29:42I mean, man, there's a lot going on. It gets the sec
- 29:45into the lacrosse. I mean there is a light and play. I mean
- 29:49it's like what all. I would love to know what is really going on
- 29:53in those conversations because I can assure you that there those dudes are talking and
- 30:00they're they're trying to decide, all right, how are we gonna square those
- 30:03deals? Should we just branch off? And look, I'm a reason for
- 30:06real reason I want to know, is I can missit? We state got
- 30:08I want to make sure we got a chair we don't fit. Maybe it
- 30:11is what it is, you know now it's yeah, I'm I think the
- 30:17Big twelve and this is a gambling podcast, so we won't go deep into
- 30:22it. But I think your Mark is probably the most seasoned media official in
- 30:29the in the mix right now, right, I mean, he's he's his
- 30:32background is that, and so this sports thing is new obviously sank He's probably
- 30:37the most powerful person in there. And then you've got whoever's running the Big
- 30:41ten at this point. But point to this is is I think your Mark
- 30:45has been aggressive and I think he's got opportunity he's out offers out there,
- 30:52and I could see the Big twelve trying to just absorb the Pac twelve,
- 30:56and it would be interesting because you end up with a twenty team league that
- 30:57would be coast to coast, which he's been pretty vocal about that. And
- 31:02you know, that sounds crazy until you realize that USC and UCLA are gonna
- 31:07play Rutgers in Maryland. You know, maybe not next year, but at
- 31:11some point they're gonna be traveling across the country to play conference games, and
- 31:15so the days of regionality is completely over. It's about money, it's about
- 31:21TV contracts, it's about the brand and the other thing that's interesting to me.
- 31:25People don't know, but may maye. I'm sure a lot of people
- 31:27know if they're listening to this podcast, but is you know, the championship
- 31:33deal with twelve teams in it, it's only for two years and then they're
- 31:37renegotiating after that year. And if you're the SEC in the Big ten,
- 31:40you're like, hey, bro, we ain't given six seats away to these
- 31:42chump chain you know, cous is not getting a seat, you know,
- 31:45and there you're kind of nudget at this point. It's like the Big twelve's
- 31:49not getting a seat because you take Texas in Oklahoma out of the Big twelve,
- 31:52and frankly, it's fairly irrelevant. And you've got I think you've got
- 31:56a lot of good teams that can play, but there's nobody left in that
- 32:00conference currently that can make a legitimate run in the national championship. And well,
- 32:06and and you you think if you add Washington and Oregon to the Big
- 32:10ten, and then and then you do exactly what you said. Let's just
- 32:15say they choose to go I mean, candidly where I would go if I
- 32:20was sitting in that seat. It's probably more Virginia than than Duke. But
- 32:25let's say they go Duke, North Carolina, Clemson, and Florida State,
- 32:29because it's easy. There's a couple of teams that I probably there's actually a
- 32:31couple of teams I wouldn't do if I were running that. But do you
- 32:37make a gigantic basketball league, I don't know. I mean, it's a
- 32:40you know, so there's a lot of there's a lot of things that play,
- 32:45and all those go into the hard numbers that candidly none of us have
- 32:50really got, and that at this point, that's what they're looking at is
- 32:53in networks are driving it. I think then the SE season. I do
- 32:58think the SEC's next big plays a streaming service, whether it's Apple, whether
- 33:01it's Prime or whoever, one of the big streamers is going to get some
- 33:07of those games. I truly believe that, and I think that's where their
- 33:09next big pay pump comes from, because they got fan bases that will pay.
- 33:13You offer a nine ninety nine subscription service to get SEC games in every
- 33:17SEC fan in america's buying it. And the Big ten has that same advanage
- 33:22because they got a bunch of fans too. At the end of the day,
- 33:25what's happened to the pact? Well, and we'll start talking about game
- 33:28their own fans don't care. They don't go to games. Oh there's more
- 33:32to do of here, full you don't care. When I go to the
- 33:37beach for labor to day, guess what I'm doing, I'm watching football all
- 33:40day. When I'm in the mountains, guess what I'm doing. I'm watching
- 33:44football all day. New Year's Eve, skiing old family everybody. Oh yeah,
- 33:47what time you leaving? I'm like, not watching football. You either
- 33:52love to watch it and you love it and you gamble on it and you
- 33:54talk about it or you don't. And at the end of the day,
- 33:58the bulk of those fans and bases don't care. And that's why the league
- 34:01is employby. So let's talk about over onto one PAC twelve. You've got
- 34:07some interesting stuff going on out there. When you look at the conference,
- 34:10first thing you got to look at is obviously USC is the darling in that
- 34:14conference, and their schedule is interesting, and that fact it is very soft,
- 34:20very soft to open the season. They're easily gonna be six and zero
- 34:23before they run into anything. San Jose State. They play Week zero and
- 34:28then they don't play another team that had a winning record again until they get
- 34:31to the middle of October when they have to go to Notre Dame. And
- 34:35the reason I bring this up is I think their schedule is going to be
- 34:38their downfall. They've got without a buy, They've got at Notre Dame,
- 34:43they've host Utah, who's Utah has owned these guys the last few times.
- 34:47And I also think when you look at USC and UCLA they're leaving the conference,
- 34:52I think Texas and Oklahoma are going to get everybody's best shot in the
- 34:54Big twelve like they're pissed about it. I don't know that the PAC twelve
- 34:58even cares, but I think USC has been kind of becoming the Texas out
- 35:02there. They've always been the front runner. I think USC is gonna get
- 35:06everybody's best shot. And so as they roll out of here. They finished
- 35:08the season at Notre Dame Utah at Cow, which you never know what you're
- 35:14gonna get from Justin Wilcox. They've got oodub coming there at Oregon, and
- 35:19then they finished with UCLA. So they go from playing nobody to realistically having
- 35:23a six week strain where it's gonna be a dogfight at every single one of
- 35:28those games for that team to win. Defense is what it's all gonna come
- 35:31down to. Offensively, I think they're gonna be explosive. I look for
- 35:35him to be one of the highest scoring teams in the country this season.
- 35:37Defensively, I just don't know that they've got the dogs to get it done.
- 35:42So I haven't played anything on them, but that's easily going to be
- 35:45the team that gets the most notoriety in the PAC twelve. And where I
- 35:50went with my first bet in the PAC twelves. I took Oo dub at
- 35:53plus three fifty to win the conference. I like Michael Pennox, I like
- 35:58Kalin Debord. I thought this team got better as a season went on.
- 36:01Last year, this team's more physical, and again, their schedules a lot
- 36:07like you know, there's a lot like US. Season's very backloaded and getting
- 36:12it done. But because there's no conference alignments here, I think you dub
- 36:16could be one of the two teams that makes it in there. And I
- 36:20don't like Utah this year as much as I like winningham and the consistency they
- 36:23put out. I don't know if Cam Rising is gonna play. I know
- 36:25he was at Media Days. I know everybody's saying, Oh he's good.
- 36:29Go back and look up google Cam Rising highlights and go look at the USC
- 36:34game. He makes a run the USC game where he gets his helmet fucking
- 36:37knocked off and gets up, was out, one play comes back in,
- 36:40He's rolling in the in the Rose Bowl. He was such a physical partner.
- 36:44He's been like that since he took over for Charlie Brewer two and a
- 36:47half years ago. And I just don't know what you're gonna get if he
- 36:51doesn't play, And if he does play, how banged up is he And
- 36:53their schedule is tough. I mean they've got Florida coming up, and I
- 36:58know everybody's kind of laughing at Florida. That's gonna be a physical game.
- 37:01Then they got to go to Baylor, who I don't think it's great,
- 37:04but it's just an odd set. And then with you know, UCLA and
- 37:07Oregon States. So they've got some tough run in schedules in their games.
- 37:12So U DUB is the only bet I've made so far, and I took
- 37:15them at plus three fifty to win the conference. Yeah. I like I
- 37:17like your UB play. I like those guys too. I'll tell you this.
- 37:22The Pac twelve, this league, to me, is setting up as
- 37:30possibly the best two or three teams to not make a playoff. I could
- 37:36see some ten and two's, yeah, and some nine and threes, and
- 37:38there'll be some really good football teams. One thing that concerns me about USC
- 37:43a little man. They're good. Yeah, and they are super good on
- 37:46offense. You know they're gonna be good. Kata Williams a great player.
- 37:51They got everything rolling out there, they're getting ready to you know, I
- 37:53think this is a good football I think that's a really good football team.
- 37:57That defense, though, created a bunch of turnovers last year, and I
- 38:02forget their turnover margin, but it was a gigantic I mean it was like
- 38:07thirty five or the plus thirty five. I mean, they were gigantic.
- 38:09They They're not gonna turn the football over like that. Again, that is
- 38:14not how the ball bounces. And look, part of the reason they did
- 38:16that is because they didn't turn it over a much. Mean, Caleb Williams
- 38:20was really good and the dude only had four interceptions and he was slinking at
- 38:23it every other play, you know, So, I mean, he's really
- 38:27good, so that's part of the reason. But man, that's just not
- 38:30the way football works. You don't get those kinds of breaks. It's the
- 38:35same thing with injuries. You get you go injury pre one next, Like,
- 38:38I love these stats of offensive line injuries, like snaps missed for injury
- 38:45and what they've got coming back. You show me a team that had ninety
- 38:50percent of their snaps with their starter and they got five of them coming back,
- 38:52three of them gonna be gone by the end of September. That's just
- 38:55the way football works. It's I don't know why, it's odd it's crazy.
- 39:01It just is what it is. And championship teams a lot of times,
- 39:05you know, return lots of guys. So that's my concern on USC.
- 39:07I think they're gonna be really good. I agree with you their schedule,
- 39:10but they play three out of what they come off of bye week,
- 39:14play back to back road games, home game against stuff what I think is
- 39:17going to be an improved Arizona football team. Then they're at Notre Dame Utah
- 39:22and then on the road at what I think is a bad cal team,
- 39:27which you're going on the road after that stretch that could be that you talk
- 39:31about a high mess. I mean that's a season ending kind of game.
- 39:36And then you got because you got Washington, which is gonna be a gigantic
- 39:39game waiting on them on deck, then at Oregon and then Ucla to end.
- 39:44I agree with you. The backside of the schedule really tough. At
- 39:47the end of the day, they play what five road games, have five
- 39:52road games in nine weeks. They end the season with nine straight games.
- 39:58That is not a good lay. Way to end the ball game. Way
- 40:00to end the season. That's how you start losing ball games because you start
- 40:04getting got banged up. That's how lose games. You shouldn't. I think
- 40:07they're a great football team. I don't want any part of this over underwin
- 40:10total though, even though I think they are really really good. Utah is
- 40:16exactly what you said. Not a huge fan of their of what's going on.
- 40:22Love this program, love everything they do. But I'll be honest with
- 40:24you, I'm playing this. I'm playing under. I'm not playing I'm not
- 40:29playing over. I don't think they're going I don't know if this is a
- 40:31nine win football team, could be, but Rising, as you said,
- 40:36has got to be great from the start. I think Oregon same thing.
- 40:42This over underwin total scares me. That Tech game is fascinating to me when
- 40:47they go to Texas Tech week two. That we've talked about this at nauseum
- 40:52on our podcast. Bow Nix on the road is a different quarterback at bo
- 40:57Nix at home. That happened to time two last year or two now he
- 41:00turned it around? Was that the what was that? The was that the
- 41:05Oregon State game when he lit it up, he plays, he played well
- 41:09SEC anyway he went on the road, same thing. Struggled first half,
- 41:12didn't turn around, played really well in the second half TeX's gonna be zoost
- 41:15Literally, every Texas Tech fan I know, including you, is going to
- 41:20this game. I mean every person I know, and so I mean,
- 41:24I think it's gonna be zoost up. My Oregon friends that live in the
- 41:28neighborhood are going to the ball game. I think this game is gonna be
- 41:30packed. I think it's gonna be wild to see how he plays. But
- 41:35again, I think this is a really good football team. I think Landing's
- 41:37got them in a really, really good spot. I like these guys.
- 41:42I think this is gonna be a good football team. But do they win?
- 41:45And I have ten games. You look at this schedule, I think
- 41:47to get over nine, they got to win at Tech because they're at Washington,
- 41:52They're at Utah, and I think I think that's the key. I
- 41:58think those are the games because I think they could bury easily lose both those
- 42:00games. They could obviously use you lose USC at home and in Oregon State
- 42:05at home. I think they're gonna be a good football team too, But
- 42:07so does Vegas based on that over underwin total with Ungela La Lady. So
- 42:12this is a fascinating league at the type end, and I love Washington and
- 42:15I didn't even get to with you. I think is the favorite to win
- 42:19the Pact twelve because of that schedule. This over underwin total is one that
- 42:24I think is one that I'm taking because I think this is at nine,
- 42:30because it's at they play at Michigan State. They're gonna drill Michigan State.
- 42:34I think the game's not gonna be close. Can't wait to see that line.
- 42:37I think we're gonna win some cheese on that deal. I think there's
- 42:40just a significantly better football team than Michigan State, and then they the same
- 42:45Detal and I do love the Pact twelve has loaded this back end of the
- 42:49schedule. November's gonna be in the October and then November is gonna be a
- 42:52lot of fun in this league with a lot of really good games every week.
- 42:57So it's exciting. This is gonna be an exciting league to watch.
- 43:00I'm really looking forward to it. I think the team that's got a chance
- 43:05that probably nobody's talking about to get over. I like this Arizona team.
- 43:10Fish is doing. He's recruiting well in state, feels like he's got momentum.
- 43:15Uh, this is guy, as I said, got exciting quarterback play.
- 43:19I think they've got a chance to be better. Uh, James Delara
- 43:23is a lot of fun to watch, So I think this team's got a
- 43:25chance to be better. A lot of transfers, they lost a lot of
- 43:30guys, they brought a lot of guys in, so I do think.
- 43:32But I think overall this is a better football team. But boy, it
- 43:37is a wild card on offense. But that they're the team that I think
- 43:42has got a has got a chance to make some things happen. But two
- 43:45huge games for them are at Misissippi State and then you tap at home and
- 43:50we still want to tell you you take so much better football team this year.
- 43:52Um, so DEM's doing a really good job out there. Don't think
- 43:57they have the ability to win that game. That could be much closer than
- 44:01the experts think as we start talking about betting and getting down the road.
- 44:05So what are your other thoughts on the back twelve? But I will take
- 44:07under on California and five. I did believe that over I'm taking them under
- 44:13five wins. Not a fan of that Calfoli. I like under Stanford.
- 44:19Um, I think Stanford over under Stanfords's three most place three half. I
- 44:23mean The only game Stanford, in my opinion, has a chance to win,
- 44:27are going to be Hawaii Sacks State at Colorado. I can't see this
- 44:37team winning. Their their rosters a mess. I mean, what talent they
- 44:39did have left on it after the David Shaw regime ended it ejected. I
- 44:45mean, the tackles and now tackler guard is at Oklahoma. I mean they
- 44:49lost several guys in the trench. But yeah, and it's kids. The
- 44:52only kid that's still air. Yeah, And so I mean, you know,
- 44:54I kind of kind of leaned under their Colorado. We can't not talk
- 44:59about it. That's what they built the whole thing around. I'm gonna be
- 45:01very objective here. So Prime comes in, obviously there's a whole circus around
- 45:07him. I get that his coaching staff's pretty good. I mean I like
- 45:10it. I really like what he did with the coordinators. You know,
- 45:15the roster. He catches some flat, but I think he kind of looked
- 45:19at it's like, look, I'm gonna try to reboot this thing and get
- 45:21it to where I want to get it as fast as possible, and let's
- 45:23go. I mean, because this was a terrible football team last year.
- 45:28I mean easily the worst Power of five football team, and I would tell
- 45:30you one of the worst teams in the country. And so you've got you've
- 45:35you've got a couple of players in here. I mean, they've got some
- 45:37good transfers in some of them got some pts, some of them didn't.
- 45:39You know, his son would probably be a Power five quarterback had he not
- 45:43followed his dad, you know, the Travis Hunter kid or whatever his name
- 45:46was, that he would probably be. Obviously he was the best player in
- 45:49the country and he went there. They've talked about using them both ways.
- 45:52But if you're but the ones blat Colorado, you can't build in one year.
- 45:59You can't almost build it in two or three. Is the trench and
- 46:01the Pac twelve is not known for being strong and the trench to begin with.
- 46:06And so if you're Colorado, I mean, legitimately they're over unders at
- 46:10three and a half. I lean hard to the under and this, but
- 46:15you're gonna have to put some juice down on it. But look at their
- 46:16schedule at TCU. Then they get a new Nebraska at home with Matt Rule.
- 46:22You know, he's got that game circled. And then Colorado State,
- 46:25who I think is one of the most improved teams in the Mountain West.
- 46:29I think they're gonna be much better. And then after that, you just
- 46:31rolled into the Pac twelve. They catch Stanford on a Friday night, but
- 46:37you know, at home, but even their road games, it's like,
- 46:40I don't know, man. I mean, they legitimately could start this season
- 46:45and not win a game until the middle of October if they if they can't
- 46:49do anything in these first three games, Colorado may not win a game until
- 46:52the middle of October when they play Stanford, and by then no one's gonna
- 46:57be talking about them. And it's interesting too, you know, looking at
- 47:00Dion and he grabbed a couple of recruits pretty early in the cycle, but
- 47:04even the high school recruitings really started to slow down just in the last couple
- 47:08of weeks. If you're following this, I know he's got some physical ailments
- 47:12and I'm looking forward to seeing him on the sideline and seeing how this works.
- 47:15Uh. And you know what the experiment is. You've got Colorado's doing
- 47:17it with Prime Uab's doing it with Trent Dildo, and so I'm you know,
- 47:22I'm looking forward to it, but at the same time, realistically,
- 47:24I can't see this team winning four games this season. I gotta tell you,
- 47:30I think. I mean, look, they got You talk about transfers,
- 47:32I mean, not this roster, would they. I mean, I
- 47:36mean's teams that they've got. Oh yeah, it's like I've actually signed with
- 47:39Colorado on this roster. Yeah. So, I mean, it's just nobody.
- 47:43Everybody's gone. They got two starters from Kent State on the offensive line.
- 47:46They're bringing in transfers from Missouri State, and but we're not talking about
- 47:52all Alabama transfers and all the Look, my guess is both those offensive linemen
- 47:58from Kent are pretty good players. The offensive coordinators from Kent he knows what
- 48:00he knows what he's doing. I mean, Sean Lewis did a really good
- 48:04job at Kent State. I agree with you. I like to hire.
- 48:06I think they're a disaster. I agree with you. I think they're going
- 48:08under. Look, man, there's a difference in coaching one wa you know,
- 48:15in the swack versus rolling out in what is one of the no not
- 48:20one of it's dec pavious league in the country. There's some really good football
- 48:24teams at the top end of this At the end of this there's for what
- 48:29I would call really good football teams in USC and Utah, in Oregon and
- 48:36in Washington, and UCLA ain't much behind that because I think they're going to
- 48:39be a really good football team too before we get off of them. So
- 48:44I mean there's five what I think are really good football teams in this league.
- 48:46And then you got Arizona State in Arizona fighting like dogs to get ahead,
- 48:51that are clawing and scratching and going. I just think this is a
- 48:53bad year for these guys. I think it doesn't end up. I think
- 48:58it doesn't end up well. And I am out like you on this season
- 49:02with Colorado, I think they go under that three and a half wind pole.
- 49:07Yeah, I would lean that way just because it's you look at their
- 49:09schedule and all the hoopla. I can get around that, but their schedule
- 49:15is tough, and as you start going through it, they don't have roster
- 49:17depth that other teams do and you start getting banged up with some injuries and
- 49:22different things. And I mean, you know they play one where they play
- 49:28they play seven games before they catch a bye, and that seventh game is
- 49:31Stanford on a Friday night. So they're coming off the road at Arizona State,
- 49:37and then they have Stanford at home on that Friday, and it's just
- 49:40it's not a great spot for me. And Stanford's coming off of a bye
- 49:44before they play them. And so if this team starts taking some licks and
- 49:50can't get it done in these first three games where they've got TCU, Nebraska,
- 49:53Colorado State, I just I don't know where the winds come from.
- 49:57And so I would lean under three and a half even heavy juice, and
- 50:00if you get yourself in a pickle somehow, they they have three wins.
- 50:06I mean, at the end of it, you've got an organ State,
- 50:07Arizona and USC. I mean, you could hedge out of that spot.
- 50:09I just I cannot see this team. I cannot see this team winning four
- 50:14games. Yeah, I agree with the team that I really don't because I
- 50:17really like I really do like the Cameron Ward. But I just do not
- 50:23have a read on Washington State. I really don't know. I don't either,
- 50:29and I just can't figure out what we're what I'm going to get out
- 50:31of those guys. And I will just tell you that's a if. If
- 50:37I'm taking and I'm taking under. But I just I don't know what I
- 50:40get they could put. Look, anytime you got good quarterback play, you
- 50:45know, you got a quarter you got a guy returning and started thirteen games,
- 50:47completed sixty four percent of us passes. You got a chance to be
- 50:52a good football team. I mean, that's that's the deal. And but
- 50:55I just I can't get sold on this team. And I don't want to
- 50:59die out of this league either until we talk about Oregon State, because I
- 51:05think they're gonna be a fun team to talk about. That over underwin total
- 51:10is I think right about where it should be at eight, but it's higher
- 51:16than I thought it would be. And I thought we might be able to
- 51:21get that at seven and a half and out of it. And I know
- 51:22everybody's like, well, it's just a half point. That's the difference in
- 51:27winning and nine to me, And because I think this probably is an eight
- 51:31or nine win football team. I really liked Jonathan Smith and look, he
- 51:37went to school there. He knows how to win there. We talked about
- 51:42this. I think Unglea lay Lake is a really, really good player.
- 51:45I think he needed to get out of Clemson. I think you said it
- 51:50right earlier in the podcast. He just was filled with a lot of jump.
- 51:53This was the best defense in the league statistically last year. Link.
- 51:58If you ask every read college football fan what was the best defense in the
- 52:01Pac twelve last year, they just said, you talk just off the cuff.
- 52:07Nobody's realizing how good this Oregon State defense is and how good of a
- 52:12job Jonathan Smith is doing coaching this football team. They got a lot of
- 52:15players back, got a lot of people up front, got some skilled guys
- 52:20back. They like to run football, got a really good sophomore running back
- 52:24in Damien Martinez. So I like this football team. I think these guys
- 52:30got a chance to make make some hay. I don't think again, they're
- 52:34a good football team that nobody's talking about that could slide up into that upper
- 52:38echelon. I can they have the ability to repeat and wins again. You
- 52:45know, really, what I think is a really really good conference. So
- 52:51anyway, I think that's that's my read on the Pac twelve as I see
- 52:54it. You know, my bets are going to be Oregon State, and
- 53:00I'm taking a flyer on Arizona. I think they I think they pop up.
- 53:05I think they're the team that bounces up. I just hope it is
- 53:08not at the demise of my Bulldogs because we play in Week two. It's
- 53:15like Baylor's got Utah. I can't. Baylor's something very good. So we'll
- 53:20see. But um, yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing how this league
- 53:23plays. I think the quarterback play is gonna be fantastic. Now after listening
- 53:28to Utah, I have to go home and figure out how I'm gonna watch
- 53:30the damn thing. Um and so yeah, we'll have to get all that
- 53:34stuff wired in, folks. That being said, the problem with the league
- 53:38is their own You know, they got some of those games at eleven o'clock
- 53:42on Fox, and well man, there's other stuff. I may be watching
- 53:45that eleven, you know. I mean that's the truth. It sucks that
- 53:52some of these games aren't on at night when they all to be. You
- 53:54can't find some of these night games. They still got one more year left
- 53:58right to the ESPN in this hit, I think I think they still got
- 54:01to pack twelve after dark with ESPN this year and work. I'll wait and
- 54:06see after that. But I mean, the bulk of the league, a
- 54:07lot of the league games you're not gonna see. Yeah, watching football in
- 54:14general is going to be interesting this season because once you get to October,
- 54:17KUSA starts playing on Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays, and then of course by
- 54:22the time you get to November, now the whole max playing then and so
- 54:24it's a basically once you get to like the second week of October, if
- 54:30you like the NFL, you can watch football seven days a week because it's
- 54:32on every single day. And yeah, it is. It is gonna be
- 54:37so fabulous. Now we get two months of non stop football instead of one.
- 54:40It's gonna be great. Mark, Oh boy, I mean, look,
- 54:45look at I'm trying to find a I'm trying to find a Pack twelve.
- 54:50I'm trying to find a Pack twelve TV schedule and it's it's literally not
- 54:53published yet, Like there's no there's no game times on I mean on the
- 54:59PAC twelve. Listen, listen how stupid this is. If you go to
- 55:01middle of October Week nine, Oregon State at Arizona, no channel, no
- 55:08start time, Oregon Utah, no channel, no start time. How on
- 55:15earth can you be a fan of this conference? And I mean, these
- 55:17are like real games, and I know they're not waiting to get slotted because
- 55:21they don't know when they're gonna play, and so it's a real game.
- 55:24I mean, those aren't Those aren't average game. I mean that's not cousa
- 55:30Utah in same Houston State, which we'll get at some point during the years.
- 55:34That is a real football game that betters and college football fans want to
- 55:39watch, and we're gonna we're gonna all need to go to a sports book
- 55:43to get it. It's gonna be funny, Scott. That being said,
- 55:47we have wrapped up the five power conferences, we doubled them up. We've
- 55:52got the Group of Fives coming back. We've got a handful of weeks before
- 55:55we get into week zero Week one game of the year year lines. So
- 56:00we're gonna be breaking those down, with hopes being we can get you some
- 56:04look ahead action on some of these lines, because the college lines will get
- 56:07I mean, Week one lines are gonna get beat to testh Do you have
- 56:09any Week one bets yet that you're rolling to put out there? Not that
- 56:15I have not studied those lines enough yet candidly, and I can't believe I
- 56:19hadn't, because normally I have by now, So no, but I promised
- 56:22by the next time we record, I will dig into that, and yes,
- 56:25found a couple of nuggets because there are some good games that we can
- 56:29and I think you've got a chance to provide a little value. First game,
- 56:32I bet Scotty. I think it could be on my first money line
- 56:37parlay leg that we're gonna put out every single week is I got Ohio plus
- 56:43four at San Diego State. I think Ohio has got a great chance to
- 56:47win the MIC. They finally busted this year and win the MIC. I
- 56:51believe it. I mean them, It's gonna come down to them in Toledo.
- 56:54But the San Diego State team I think takes a step back a little
- 56:58bit. I'm not a big break hope for him personally, and I think
- 57:01this Ohio offense is going to be explosive with Rourke coming back for his seventeenth
- 57:06year. But yeah, so I've got a little Ohio at plus four line
- 57:12still painted out there at three and a half. You're gonna laugh at this
- 57:15one. I really want Vandy to go under seventeen and I think they just
- 57:21boat race Hawaii and so that was pretty interesting. But yeah, there's a
- 57:27couple of interesting games in Week zero. If I could get Yukon plus seventeen.
- 57:31I'd probably snag a little bit of that, but no, I'm looking
- 57:34forward to it. College football is literally right around the corner. There's opportunities
- 57:38out there. Look at that Floorita game. Dude, line's down to seven
- 57:42and a half. I mean my line opened at ten and it's been all
- 57:46the way down to say, I guarantee you somebody knows something about Cam Rising
- 57:51not playing in that game for that thing to sneak all the way down and
- 57:53the last ten. But I'm gonna throw out there big twelve. We didn't
- 57:57talk about it. I'm going under on Iowa stage. I talked to some
- 58:00folks and I think this gambling thing that's in Iowa could have some legs to
- 58:05it, and there may be some players suspended for games or season that we're
- 58:09for the whole, you know, gambling on themselves or gambling on sports that
- 58:15are out there. So I took a little I took a little snip plus.
- 58:17I don't think I state it's gonna be very good, but I took
- 58:20a little snippet under four and a half before that thing took off and got
- 58:22wildly juiced. Man, that's what that's news right there. I'll tell you
- 58:28what gambling is it? Man? This is a Pandora's box. You know,
- 58:31I love it, but I sure do think you will see Sure do
- 58:36you think it was a lot less risky when it was just you know,
- 58:38belowboard. I think all these kids, college kids, having access to these
- 58:43apps and everything. Man, I think it's a recipe for disaster. That
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