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- 0:00Speaker 1: Everyone. My name is Preston Dennett, and welcome to a
- 0:03Speaker 1: new episode of UFOs and the Parent Normal. Today's episode
- 0:07Speaker 1: is called Meeting the Aliens. Five onboard UFO Encounters. I
- 0:13Speaker 1: think the onboard UFO encounter is probably the ultimate type
- 0:17Speaker 1: of UFOON en counter, certainly more extensive than a simple
- 0:21Speaker 1: sighting or a close encoarnor of this second or third kind.
- 0:25Speaker 1: I mean, meeting a humanoid face to face is certainly
- 0:28Speaker 1: one thing, but being taken on board is quite another.
- 0:32Speaker 1: These are really such close encounters that it removes any
- 0:37Speaker 1: chance of misperception whatsoever. You are literally surrounded by the
- 0:42Speaker 1: UFO phenomena. It's something you hear, taste, smell, feel, uses
- 0:47Speaker 1: all your senses. And these are the cases, of course,
- 0:50Speaker 1: with the most data that have the most to tell
- 0:53Speaker 1: us about what it's like to have contact, who the
- 0:56Speaker 1: ets are, why they're here, where they come from, and
- 1:00Speaker 1: all the many questions surrounding UFO contact. So yeah, I love, love,
- 1:05Speaker 1: love these cases most of all, and I've chosen five
- 1:09Speaker 1: today that I think you probably haven't heard before. They're
- 1:13Speaker 1: really quite obscure, most of them, and super interesting. Now,
- 1:19Speaker 1: what's interesting about these cases is they reach all the
- 1:22Speaker 1: way back to the nineteen thirties the earliest case and
- 1:25Speaker 1: the latest is nineteen ninety one, so quite a long
- 1:29Speaker 1: period of time here. These cases do come from all
- 1:33Speaker 1: over the world. I've chosen a case from Japan, one
- 1:36Speaker 1: from the United States, one from Germany, one from Hungary,
- 1:40Speaker 1: and one from Argentina, so quite a large geographical spread there. Now,
- 1:46Speaker 1: the vast majority of these four are single witness cases.
- 1:50Speaker 1: Was one does involve multiple witnesses, though the other witnesses
- 1:53Speaker 1: do not recall being taken on board. And I will
- 1:57Speaker 1: say that some of these do have peripheral witnesses and
- 2:01Speaker 1: that there were people in the area who saw UFOs
- 2:03Speaker 1: at the time the person the main witness was taken
- 2:06Speaker 1: on board. And pretty much all of them involve one
- 2:10Speaker 1: form of evidence or another to help support their case,
- 2:13Speaker 1: and all were professionally researched as well by experienced investigators,
- 2:19Speaker 1: which always adds another level of credibility to them. What
- 2:24Speaker 1: I find most interesting about all five of these cases
- 2:27Speaker 1: is that not one of them involves the use of
- 2:30Speaker 1: regressive hypnosis. I do think hypnosis works when done correctly.
- 2:36Speaker 1: I think the cases recalled under hypnosis show this because
- 2:40Speaker 1: they match pretty much exactly what people consciously recall, but
- 2:45Speaker 1: just avoiding any explanations of oh, this is hypnosis, this
- 2:50Speaker 1: is false memory syndrome, they made this up. Nope, you
- 2:53Speaker 1: cannot say that in these cases because these are all
- 2:56Speaker 1: recalled fully consciously, and yeah, there's evidence as well. I
- 3:02Speaker 1: think these cases have lots of insight to them, lots
- 3:07Speaker 1: to say about what it's like to have contact, and
- 3:11Speaker 1: they're just super interesting because they are really the ultimate
- 3:16Speaker 1: type of ufone counter. So the first case i'd like
- 3:20Speaker 1: to talk about today I call the case of Wahabi Amanaka.
- 3:26Speaker 1: This case took place in Matsuyama, Japan, all the way
- 3:30Speaker 1: back on August two, nineteen thirty. This is a very
- 3:34Speaker 1: unusual case. It's a bit different than most, but there
- 3:39Speaker 1: are some elements to it that certainly match up with
- 3:42Speaker 1: other cases. It does have some really interesting evidence to it,
- 3:47Speaker 1: but the whole account is just a fascinating series of
- 3:50Speaker 1: events which I think you'll find quite interesting. It's astonishing
- 3:55Speaker 1: and very early on board. Ufone counter comes from Japanese
- 3:59Speaker 1: research Hachiro Kubota. The witness is Warrabi Amanaka, though this
- 4:06Speaker 1: is a pseudonym like many contactees. He had a series
- 4:10Speaker 1: of contacts while a very young boy. In fact, Waarabi's
- 4:14Speaker 1: first unusual experience occurred on a warm summer evening in
- 4:18Speaker 1: nineteen twenty six, when he was just two years old.
- 4:23Speaker 1: He was in bed in his home in Matsuyama when
- 4:26Speaker 1: he felt a sudden and strange feeling of goodness overwhelming him,
- 4:31Speaker 1: and he heard someone calling out to him mentally, come out,
- 4:34Speaker 1: my boy. It may sound unusual that he remembers all
- 4:37Speaker 1: the way back to two years old, but this is
- 4:40Speaker 1: something many contactees do report at any rate. Warabi says
- 4:46Speaker 1: he went outside, where he was greeted by a six
- 4:48Speaker 1: and a half foot tall, young looking human looking Caucasian
- 4:53Speaker 1: man with short cut, golden hair and wearing a white
- 4:57Speaker 1: robe and white shoes, very large eyes, very smooth, hairless skin.
- 5:04Speaker 1: He was very friendly. He smiled gently and spoke in Japanese,
- 5:09Speaker 1: told Warrabi, let me hold you boy. Then they proceeded
- 5:13Speaker 1: to take a short walk around the house. Now, Warrabi
- 5:17Speaker 1: says he felt no fear. The man was very warm,
- 5:20Speaker 1: very caring, and that was basically it. But the next
- 5:24Speaker 1: summer it happened again. This friendly stranger appeared once more,
- 5:29Speaker 1: beckoning to Warabi using mental telepathy to come outside and
- 5:33Speaker 1: greet him. The meeting was entirely friendly, and it happened
- 5:37Speaker 1: again the next year, and the next, and in fact,
- 5:40Speaker 1: from nineteen twenty six to nineteen twenty nine there were
- 5:43Speaker 1: a total of at least three meetings. Warabi called this
- 5:48Speaker 1: gentleman Uncle as he didn't know his name, but on
- 5:53Speaker 1: a few occasions this man Uncle gave Warrabi gifts. Once
- 5:58Speaker 1: he gave him a bicycle. During another visit, he actually
- 6:02Speaker 1: gave Warrabi a small metallic box which you can see
- 6:06Speaker 1: here with a carving on the top. The carving, as
- 6:09Speaker 1: you see, has a triangle in the middle, two small
- 6:13Speaker 1: snakes rising up on either side of the triangle, all
- 6:16Speaker 1: of it surrounded by this rectangle with a series of
- 6:19Speaker 1: vertical lines and a sort of sunburst surrounding it. So
- 6:24Speaker 1: this is a physical artifact which as far as I know,
- 6:26Speaker 1: has not been tested in any way. At any rate,
- 6:30Speaker 1: all of this appeared to be in preparation for a
- 6:33Speaker 1: major on board experience because it was on the evening
- 6:38Speaker 1: of August second, nineteen thirty that Warrabi, now five years old,
- 6:43Speaker 1: was just beginning to fall asleep when he heard the
- 6:46Speaker 1: familiar telepathic message, come out, my boy. So Warrabi very
- 6:51Speaker 1: much enjoyed these visits and eagerly went out to meet
- 6:55Speaker 1: Uncle again. And Uncle said, come along with me, boy.
- 7:00Speaker 1: Warrabi said, all right, and together they walked away from
- 7:03Speaker 1: the house out into a large field, and to Warabi's surprise,
- 7:08Speaker 1: there was a very large craft sitting in the field. Now,
- 7:12Speaker 1: it was pretty dark, so he didn't get a great
- 7:15Speaker 1: look at what it appeared to be. Didn't seem much detail,
- 7:19Speaker 1: but he estimates that this object was about one hundred
- 7:22Speaker 1: and twenty feet across. And as he watched, a door
- 7:26Speaker 1: opened and Uncle went inside and Warrabi followed. Once inside
- 7:32Speaker 1: the craft, the witness saw five other tall men very
- 7:35Speaker 1: similar in appearance to Uncle. One was slightly shorter and
- 7:39Speaker 1: wore a light brown jumpsuit with a wide belt and
- 7:42Speaker 1: brown shoes. This man had long blonde hair and looked
- 7:47Speaker 1: to Warrabi Japanese. Now everyone gave him a friendly greeting,
- 7:53Speaker 1: while Rabi himself was given a long white robe with
- 7:56Speaker 1: no sleeves and white sandals, similar to what the others wore.
- 8:02Speaker 1: After he put this on, he was put into a
- 8:04Speaker 1: little seat and strapped down with what appears to be
- 8:08Speaker 1: a kind of seat belt. According to Wahabi, this room
- 8:11Speaker 1: was quite spacious. It had large elliptical windows, milky white walls, floor,
- 8:17Speaker 1: and ceiling. All of it was the same color. He said.
- 8:20Speaker 1: It was dimly illuminated, so he couldn't see many details
- 8:24Speaker 1: about the room, but he did see a six foot
- 8:27Speaker 1: wide central column which looked almost translucent. I found this
- 8:32Speaker 1: detail particularly interesting because this is something many many contactees
- 8:37Speaker 1: do describe a central column in the craft. Then at
- 8:41Speaker 1: this point Uncle told the witness quote, we are going
- 8:45Speaker 1: to take you wherever you want to go, so needless
- 8:50Speaker 1: to say, this delighted five year old war Rabie, and
- 8:54Speaker 1: he said, I want to see elephants and whales. And
- 8:58Speaker 1: Uncle said, all right, we will go to where the
- 9:01Speaker 1: elephants and whales are. And the next thing, the witness
- 9:05Speaker 1: knew the craft was taking off quite quickly silently. He
- 9:09Speaker 1: could tell because looking outside he was amazed to see
- 9:12Speaker 1: dark space. He didn't feel any actual movement, but after
- 9:16Speaker 1: a few moments he was surprised to see the sun
- 9:19Speaker 1: coming up over the horizon, and he could see that
- 9:22Speaker 1: they were very high up in the atmosphere. They flew
- 9:26Speaker 1: for what seemed to him almost an hour over the ocean,
- 9:31Speaker 1: when suddenly Uncle told him, boy, some whales are swimming.
- 9:35Speaker 1: Look down at them. So while Robbie got up from
- 9:38Speaker 1: the chair and looked out through the portholes looking down,
- 9:42Speaker 1: and because they were so high up, the whales looked
- 9:45Speaker 1: very small to him, and he was disappointed. And he
- 9:49Speaker 1: told Uncle I thought whales were very big, but now
- 9:52Speaker 1: they are rather small. I want to see big ones.
- 9:56Speaker 1: And Uncle said, okay, we are going down a little more.
- 10:01Speaker 1: At this point, the craft dropped down, and while Robbie
- 10:04Speaker 1: became very excited because now he could see these whales
- 10:07Speaker 1: close up, and they were huge, and as he said, wow,
- 10:11Speaker 1: how big they are. Great. So Uncle looked down at
- 10:15Speaker 1: him with a very pleasant smile, and they watched the
- 10:18Speaker 1: whales for a little while, and then the craft took
- 10:21Speaker 1: off again over a vast desert area this time, and
- 10:25Speaker 1: while Robbie was delighted to see this grassy plain and
- 10:29Speaker 1: a crowd of elephants stomping around and raising clouds of dust,
- 10:33Speaker 1: but again he was a little disappointed to see that
- 10:36Speaker 1: they were very small and oft in the distance, and
- 10:39Speaker 1: he said, Uncle, I want to see bigger elephants, at
- 10:43Speaker 1: which point Uncle replied, all right, we are going down
- 10:47Speaker 1: a little more. At this point, the craft descended slowly,
- 10:51Speaker 1: and while Robbie was delighted to get a close up
- 10:54Speaker 1: view of these elephants who were stomping around, swinging their trunks,
- 10:58Speaker 1: flapping their ears, he noticed that some appeared to see
- 11:02Speaker 1: the craft and were looking up directly at it. Later
- 11:07Speaker 1: in life, he believed that this was probably Africa, somewhere
- 11:12Speaker 1: in Africa. Now. While he was on the craft doing
- 11:16Speaker 1: all this, he was given on a few occasions hold
- 11:20Speaker 1: sweet juice to drink, and then, without any prompting, the
- 11:25Speaker 1: craft suddenly took off again. Looking out the windows, while
- 11:29Speaker 1: Robbie was amazed at what he saw, he saw pyramids
- 11:33Speaker 1: which he later recognized as the Pyramids of Egypt, and
- 11:37Speaker 1: in fact, the craft landed on a hill which he
- 11:40Speaker 1: estimates was about one hundred and fifty feet high, not
- 11:43Speaker 1: far away from the pyramids, giving him a very close
- 11:46Speaker 1: up view of them. Now, many many years later, as
- 11:49Speaker 1: an adult, he went and visited the Pyramids of Egypt
- 11:52Speaker 1: with his wife and recognized the very hill where the
- 11:56Speaker 1: craft had landed on when he was just a little boy.
- 12:00Speaker 1: So the entire onboard experience was very benevolent just all
- 12:05Speaker 1: about going and showing him all these different sites, and
- 12:08Speaker 1: it took up pretty much the entire night, he estimates,
- 12:12Speaker 1: because the next thing he knew, the craft returned to
- 12:15Speaker 1: his home in Matsuyama, and as Wi Rabbi was about
- 12:19Speaker 1: to exit the craft, Uncle told him something very interesting,
- 12:23Speaker 1: which didn't make any sense to him at the time.
- 12:26Speaker 1: But Uncle said, my boy, your father is Abraham. You
- 12:31Speaker 1: are Abraham's son. You must bear it well in your mind.
- 12:36Speaker 1: So yeah, this really didn't make a whole lot of
- 12:38Speaker 1: sense to him, but he never forgot it. At this point,
- 12:42Speaker 1: Uncle led Wa Rabi back to his home while Robbie
- 12:45Speaker 1: rushed inside and saw that it was now five a m.
- 12:49Speaker 1: And boy did he surprise his family, because it turned
- 12:53Speaker 1: out his parents, his entire family, and really the entire
- 12:58Speaker 1: neighborhood was frantic with worry because they had discovered that
- 13:02Speaker 1: what Robbie was missing early that evening and they couldn't
- 13:06Speaker 1: find him. Even searching the whole neighborhood they could not
- 13:09Speaker 1: find him. So now he appears in the house while
- 13:12Speaker 1: Robbie's father is furious and asked him angrily, where have
- 13:16Speaker 1: you been? Well? Robbie very honestly related his amazing adventure,
- 13:21Speaker 1: but to his disappointment, nobody believed him, and from that
- 13:25Speaker 1: point on he became labeled as something of a liar
- 13:28Speaker 1: and a sleepwalker. So he learned very early on probably
- 13:32Speaker 1: a good idea to keep your experiences secret. Now, one
- 13:37Speaker 1: year later, August second, nineteen thirty one, he was laying
- 13:41Speaker 1: in bed when he heard that familiar telepathic call from Uncle.
- 13:45Speaker 1: He ran outside, was greeted by Uncle and led to
- 13:48Speaker 1: the same field where this same craft rested in the
- 13:52Speaker 1: same spot, and Uncle said, my boy, where do you
- 13:55Speaker 1: want to go? Now what Robbie was now six years old.
- 14:00Speaker 1: He was about to go to school for the first time,
- 14:03Speaker 1: so he was very interested in that and said, I
- 14:06Speaker 1: want to fly to my elementary school. Uncle said, all right,
- 14:10Speaker 1: we will fly there, so they went inside. The school
- 14:14Speaker 1: was less than a mile away from war Robi's home,
- 14:16Speaker 1: so the saucer rose up and went to the school,
- 14:20Speaker 1: circled around it several times for about fifteen minutes, and
- 14:24Speaker 1: then while Robbi was returned home, Uncle promised that there
- 14:28Speaker 1: would be future visits, but alas this was not to be.
- 14:32Speaker 1: This turned out to be while Rabbi's last and final
- 14:36Speaker 1: onboard encounter. However, in confirmation of the August second encounter,
- 14:43Speaker 1: there was in fact another witness. It turned out that
- 14:46Speaker 1: sixteen year old Toshio Fujita, a resident of Matsuyama, told
- 14:52Speaker 1: researcher Hachiro Kubota that on that night he saw a
- 14:57Speaker 1: large elliptical object flying over the village around the time
- 15:02Speaker 1: of while Rabbi's encounter. So yeah, as many experiencers do.
- 15:08Speaker 1: While Robbi kept his encounter's secret for much of his life,
- 15:13Speaker 1: finally speaking out with researcher Hachiro Kubota at age sixty one,
- 15:18Speaker 1: but this encounter affected him profoundly for the rest of
- 15:21Speaker 1: his life. He became a scientist and spent the remainder
- 15:25Speaker 1: of his life in his hometown of Matsuyama, hoping that
- 15:29Speaker 1: one day his friends from space would return. He became
- 15:33Speaker 1: an impassioned environmentalist and really enjoyed nature. I think you'll
- 15:39Speaker 1: agree that is a very unusual encounter, and I certainly
- 15:42Speaker 1: don't blame the witness for not stepping forward for decades,
- 15:47Speaker 1: especially considering the climate of surrounding this subject can be
- 15:51Speaker 1: quite hostile at times. But again, he does have some
- 15:55Speaker 1: peripheral corroborating witnesses, some apparent physical evidence. Much of what
- 16:00Speaker 1: he describes is described by other contactees, and again it
- 16:05Speaker 1: was researched by an experienced investigator. So I think it's
- 16:10Speaker 1: an important case. That's why I included it, and it's
- 16:14Speaker 1: certainly not well known. Now here's the next case I'd
- 16:19Speaker 1: like to cover today, which is very interesting for a
- 16:22Speaker 1: number of reasons. Contact is rarely a singular event, and
- 16:27Speaker 1: we see that in these cases, and certainly in this one,
- 16:30Speaker 1: which I call the case of Nicholas Henry Edwards. Like
- 16:36Speaker 1: many witnesses, he kept his experiences secret for a very
- 16:39Speaker 1: long time, but finally decided to go public. Contacted a
- 16:43Speaker 1: number of very prominent researchers who looked into his case
- 16:47Speaker 1: and found it quite credible. His main onboard event, and
- 16:52Speaker 1: there were several, but is most well remembered and extensive.
- 16:55Speaker 1: One occurred on November fifteen, nineteen fifteen nine, while driving
- 17:01Speaker 1: near Marysville in California. It's an incredible case, got quite
- 17:08Speaker 1: a few corroborating witnesses, some interesting evidence as well, and
- 17:13Speaker 1: I certainly think you'll find it fascinating and it does
- 17:16Speaker 1: deserve to be more well known. Now again, most people
- 17:19Speaker 1: who are taken on board a UFO have a lifetime
- 17:22Speaker 1: of encounters, and that's certainly true of Nicholas Henry Edwards
- 17:25Speaker 1: of Tacoma, Washington. He has had many unusual experiences. In fact,
- 17:31Speaker 1: at age five, nineteen forty eight, while he was lying
- 17:34Speaker 1: on the grass at the University of Fugit Sound in Washington,
- 17:38Speaker 1: he experienced what he believes is a profound out of
- 17:41Speaker 1: body experience where he flew among the stars, and unusual
- 17:46Speaker 1: experiences continued. One evening in July of nineteen fifty two,
- 17:52Speaker 1: while living in Point Defiance Park north of Tacoma, he
- 17:56Speaker 1: saw a strange light bulb shaped object moving back and
- 18:01Speaker 1: forth in the sky. He drew it as you can see.
- 18:04Speaker 1: The next thing he knew he found himself in a
- 18:06Speaker 1: different place, so he was apparently taken on board, And
- 18:10Speaker 1: as Nick says, I was scared. I saw many small aliens.
- 18:15Speaker 1: They seemed to be talking, but I couldn't understand them
- 18:18Speaker 1: their sounds. They seemed to be looking at me, but
- 18:21Speaker 1: from a distance, it didn't look like a room, just white.
- 18:25Speaker 1: I couldn't see walls. I felt like I was sitting
- 18:27Speaker 1: on a stool. So his recall is not entirely complete. Here.
- 18:34Speaker 1: He doesn't think that anything happened to him other than
- 18:38Speaker 1: being taken on board apparently and seeing these ets. But
- 18:42Speaker 1: he did arrive home about eleven PM. This experience started
- 18:45Speaker 1: at nine point thirty, so there may have been some things,
- 18:48Speaker 1: he admits that he does not remember, and other weird
- 18:52Speaker 1: experiences would follow. As a young preteen and teenager, he
- 18:56Speaker 1: would occasionally see an aura of light surrounding his body.
- 19:00Speaker 1: Nobody else seemed to notice it. On a few occasions,
- 19:02Speaker 1: he would suddenly fall into kind of a trance, he says,
- 19:06Speaker 1: and would start relating deep, profound spiritual information to people.
- 19:11Speaker 1: Once in nineteen fifty two, he was in his backyard
- 19:14Speaker 1: with his parents and his brother Tom when a UFO
- 19:17Speaker 1: showed up. All four of them watched it for about
- 19:21Speaker 1: two hours as it moved high up, disappearing in and
- 19:24Speaker 1: out of the clouds. But Nick's most memorable and dramatic
- 19:30Speaker 1: experience occurred on November fifteenth, nineteen fifty nine. At that time,
- 19:35Speaker 1: Nick was sixteen years old, and he and his two
- 19:38Speaker 1: friends were driving along US Highway ninety nine between Chico
- 19:44Speaker 1: and Marysville, California. It was about four a m. They
- 19:49Speaker 1: were about one hundred miles from Sacramento when suddenly Nick
- 19:54Speaker 1: found his car being pulled up into a UFO. He
- 19:58Speaker 1: looked over and his two friends were unconscious. And I'll
- 20:02Speaker 1: just let Nick describe in detail in his own words
- 20:05Speaker 1: what he saw. Says Nick. I never forgot about this.
- 20:10Speaker 1: The aliens took me to a room on that night.
- 20:13Speaker 1: The room was like an operating room. On the wall
- 20:16Speaker 1: to the right were some instruments like clocks. Coming down
- 20:20Speaker 1: from the ceiling were three black cords with devices on
- 20:24Speaker 1: the end, like lasers. There was a long, large table
- 20:28Speaker 1: near the cords. I remember six aliens total. They were
- 20:33Speaker 1: four and a half to five feet tall. The eyes
- 20:35Speaker 1: were large, like human eyes, but big. They were very friendly.
- 20:39Speaker 1: I thought they were cute at first, I was given
- 20:42Speaker 1: an examination. I will not elaborate about the deeper details,
- 20:47Speaker 1: but everything works fine in a certain area. The spacecraft
- 20:52Speaker 1: was about fifty by thirty feet high. It had two rooms,
- 20:55Speaker 1: a left room and a right room. The car was
- 20:58Speaker 1: in the left room. The aliens took me to the
- 21:01Speaker 1: right room. I could see that the wall was kind
- 21:04Speaker 1: of round where the car was, but didn't notice it.
- 21:06Speaker 1: In the room on the right, there was a kind
- 21:08Speaker 1: of greenish miss where the car was, and a whitish
- 21:11Speaker 1: mist in the room on the right. The alien took
- 21:14Speaker 1: me around the front of the car to the right.
- 21:17Speaker 1: I could not move on the operating table except for
- 21:20Speaker 1: my eyes. The aliens had complete control over me. Communication
- 21:25Speaker 1: was done by thought. I never did see their lips moved.
- 21:28Speaker 1: The aliens were very expressive with their eyes and with
- 21:31Speaker 1: movement of their heads in arms. The aliens did walk,
- 21:35Speaker 1: but floated at the time, I did notice to the
- 21:38Speaker 1: upper left what appeared to be an instrument panel and
- 21:41Speaker 1: could see two aliens, perhaps to the front and up
- 21:45Speaker 1: to the left from the right room or operating room.
- 21:48Speaker 1: This may have been the flight deck or control center.
- 21:51Speaker 1: There were three aliens to my right and one to
- 21:54Speaker 1: the left, and after a couple of hours, the aliens
- 21:57Speaker 1: put me back in the car with my buddies. We
- 22:00Speaker 1: were back on US ninety nine, just outside of Sacramento, California.
- 22:06Speaker 1: So yeah, he was moved some distance from where he
- 22:09Speaker 1: was taken and his friends didn't remember. But during his
- 22:12Speaker 1: encounter he did ask the ets where they came from,
- 22:15Speaker 1: and their response was interesting. They said, we come from
- 22:19Speaker 1: a place beyond your solar system, so somewhat vague, but
- 22:23Speaker 1: certainly interesting, and he, like other contactees, actually remembers seeing
- 22:30Speaker 1: this weird alien book too. In fact, and as Nick
- 22:34Speaker 1: says in his own words, I also noticed two large
- 22:38Speaker 1: blue books. I saw pages of one book turning, but
- 22:42Speaker 1: this was not done by me, nor do I remember
- 22:45Speaker 1: one of the aliens turning the page. There was an
- 22:48Speaker 1: alien standing by me at the time, but he was
- 22:50Speaker 1: only watching me, and I don't remember having any communication
- 22:54Speaker 1: with them. No. Afterwards, he wanted to tell his friends,
- 22:59Speaker 1: but he just couldn't. As he says, I never told anyone.
- 23:03Speaker 1: This has been my secret. I just couldn't get it
- 23:06Speaker 1: out until now. My life was changed, never the same.
- 23:10Speaker 1: I started drinking and was very hard to get along with,
- 23:13Speaker 1: but I learned to live with it. This was locked
- 23:16Speaker 1: up inside, deep down until now. So yeah, it took
- 23:20Speaker 1: him many years to deal with this and to come forward.
- 23:24Speaker 1: And in the years following this encounter, he says he
- 23:27Speaker 1: had many really profound dreams about UFOs, about being on
- 23:32Speaker 1: board a craft and talking to the ets. Some of
- 23:35Speaker 1: these were very vivid and repetitive dreams. In one of
- 23:39Speaker 1: these dreams, the ets told him the history of Earth
- 23:43Speaker 1: is coming to a conclusion, soon he remembered going to
- 23:46Speaker 1: another earth like planet, all kinds of stuff. Now, he
- 23:50Speaker 1: did have a few other UFO sightings, and so did
- 23:53Speaker 1: his brother Tom. In nineteen seventy three, Nick and his
- 23:58Speaker 1: nephew viewed a cylindrical uff flying near a jet. After
- 24:02Speaker 1: it left, they talked about it briefly, and his nephew said,
- 24:06Speaker 1: no one would believe it, but yeah. It took Nick
- 24:10Speaker 1: about twenty nine years to start talking, and in nineteen
- 24:14Speaker 1: eighty eight he began to contact prominent investigators to share
- 24:19Speaker 1: his story. He also signed an affidavit attesting to the
- 24:23Speaker 1: truth of his encounter. He contacted doctor Leo Sprinkle, who
- 24:27Speaker 1: looked into his case and wrote back, quote, it is
- 24:31Speaker 1: obvious to me that your UFO experiences are similar to
- 24:35Speaker 1: those of many other persons with whom I have talked,
- 24:39Speaker 1: and you have come to similar conclusions about the possible historical, biblical,
- 24:44Speaker 1: and scientific significance of these encounters. Nick also wrote to
- 24:49Speaker 1: researcher Bullard, author of Measure of a Mystery Abductions and
- 24:55Speaker 1: which was really the first statistical study of onboard UFO cases,
- 25:00Speaker 1: and ed Bullard said, quote, I can see that you
- 25:04Speaker 1: are one of a number of people with lifelong encounters
- 25:07Speaker 1: with strange visitors. They are many and varied, and they
- 25:11Speaker 1: also have a deep impact on the lives of the
- 25:13Speaker 1: people they meet. Your report certainly makes this aspect of
- 25:17Speaker 1: these visitations very clear. So Nick was very determined to
- 25:22Speaker 1: get the word out about his encounters and speak with researchers.
- 25:26Speaker 1: He also wrote to UK researcher Mark Birdsall, who wrote back,
- 25:31Speaker 1: I have read your transcript and comments regarding your experiences
- 25:35Speaker 1: and beliefs. I found them very interesting and honestly written.
- 25:41Speaker 1: So Nick ended up writing a small book himself called
- 25:45Speaker 1: The Inevitable. It was all about his experiences and its implications.
- 25:51Speaker 1: Nick does have a strong religious faith. He speculates that
- 25:55Speaker 1: some of the ets may actually be angelic in nature.
- 25:59Speaker 1: He ended up writing articles for a few UFO journals
- 26:03Speaker 1: sharing his experiences, and he writes that his encounters have
- 26:07Speaker 1: been very benevolent, writing quote, these aliens I'm with look
- 26:12Speaker 1: like humans. I am happy to see them and be
- 26:16Speaker 1: with them. You can see. Nicholas ultimately concluded that his
- 26:20Speaker 1: encounters were very positive. It's an interesting case for so
- 26:25Speaker 1: many reasons, such a shame that he wasn't able to
- 26:28Speaker 1: connect with the other witnesses who had that onboard experience
- 26:32Speaker 1: with him, although apparently it probably wouldn't help much to
- 26:36Speaker 1: corroborate his case considering he recalls that they were in
- 26:41Speaker 1: fact unconscious, so he appears to be the target of
- 26:45Speaker 1: the ETS in this case, which is not unusual. We
- 26:48Speaker 1: see this in case after case where one person is
- 26:51Speaker 1: taken and others are basically put to sleep, or even
- 26:55Speaker 1: all might be taken and the others won't recall anything
- 26:57Speaker 1: because they were unconscious throughout the whole experience. But I
- 27:02Speaker 1: like Nicholas's case because he did reach out to many
- 27:05Speaker 1: really prominent researchers who found his case quite credible. I
- 27:09Speaker 1: think that adds a level of credibility to the case
- 27:14Speaker 1: and certainly deserves to be more well known. Now, this
- 27:19Speaker 1: next case is super fascinating. I had never heard of
- 27:22Speaker 1: this one before, and when I did find out about it,
- 27:25Speaker 1: I'm like, Wow, this is an interesting case. I call
- 27:29Speaker 1: this one the case of Klaus Dieter Kaufman, and this
- 27:33Speaker 1: took place in the spring of nineteen sixty in a
- 27:37Speaker 1: very urban area of Frankfurt, Germany. It's an incredible case
- 27:42Speaker 1: that did initially involve missing time, but the witness recalled
- 27:47Speaker 1: what happened to him spontaneously after going to the doctor
- 27:51Speaker 1: and finding out something very unusual about his physiology. As
- 27:56Speaker 1: we shall see, this case comes from Elobrond van Lude
- 28:00Speaker 1: and it was a one evening around eight thirty pm
- 28:03Speaker 1: in the spring of nineteen sixty that fourteen year old
- 28:08Speaker 1: Klaus Dieter Kaufman was walking to his home on the
- 28:11Speaker 1: outskirts of West Frankfurt, Germany. He had just gone to
- 28:15Speaker 1: visit the movies and he was walking by the Ackerman
- 28:19Speaker 1: School and the athletic field behind it as you can
- 28:22Speaker 1: see here, when he noticed a strange starlike object hovering
- 28:27Speaker 1: next to the moon. Of course, it was much lower,
- 28:30Speaker 1: and looking at it, he was shocked to see that
- 28:33Speaker 1: it had almost a saturn shape and it was large.
- 28:36Speaker 1: It was nearly one third the apparent size of the moon.
- 28:39Speaker 1: And looking at it he could see it was actually
- 28:41Speaker 1: disc shaped with the sort of rings around it and metallic.
- 28:46Speaker 1: He says, it glistened like quote iridescent metal. He could
- 28:50Speaker 1: see this in the moonlight and it was hovering just
- 28:53Speaker 1: a few blocks away, he estimates, in front of the
- 28:56Speaker 1: river Main. Now he did have a box camera with him,
- 29:00Speaker 1: but unfortunately there was no film in it, but he
- 29:03Speaker 1: was able to view the object through the camera viewfinder
- 29:06Speaker 1: and could see that this saturn like ring around the
- 29:09Speaker 1: circumference of this object was actually composed of several rings.
- 29:15Speaker 1: So as he watched, he noticed a strange whitish mist
- 29:19Speaker 1: forming near the high wire fence to his right, and
- 29:23Speaker 1: at the same time he noticed a powerful beam of
- 29:25Speaker 1: light coming down. Now suddenly he himself was struck by
- 29:30Speaker 1: this beam of light, and it was so quick and
- 29:33Speaker 1: so bright he didn't have a chance to even cover
- 29:35Speaker 1: his eyes, and the next thing he knew, he lost consciousness,
- 29:40Speaker 1: and when he woke up, he was still standing in
- 29:42Speaker 1: the same exact place. The object was still in the
- 29:46Speaker 1: same position in the sky. However, the moon had changed position,
- 29:51Speaker 1: so some time had apparently passed, and he also noticed
- 29:55Speaker 1: something else. He saw a few figures off in the distance,
- 29:59Speaker 1: moving there very quickly away from him. His watch, it
- 30:03Speaker 1: turned out, had stopped at eight thirty, so he knew
- 30:06Speaker 1: exactly when this experience occurred. But he was feeling quite
- 30:10Speaker 1: disoriented a little unwell, so he rushed home as fast
- 30:14Speaker 1: as he could, and when he arrived he found that
- 30:17Speaker 1: his brothers and sisters were all already asleep, and it
- 30:21Speaker 1: was around midnight. His parents were out at the time,
- 30:24Speaker 1: but looking out the window of his home, he could
- 30:27Speaker 1: still see this strange saturn like object and watched as
- 30:31Speaker 1: it emitted a short white beam of light which moved
- 30:35Speaker 1: up and down. Then suddenly the object became dark orange,
- 30:39Speaker 1: becoming darker and darker until it disappeared. So at this
- 30:43Speaker 1: time Klaus Deeter had no memory of the missing time,
- 30:48Speaker 1: which somewhere around three hours or more. The next day,
- 30:53Speaker 1: he did suffer from a very strong headache and inability
- 30:57Speaker 1: to concentrate. He also noticed a very sore spot on
- 31:01Speaker 1: his lower spine near his hip, which upon examination, appeared
- 31:05Speaker 1: to be a minor puncture wound. But as time passed
- 31:09Speaker 1: he forgot about this sighting. He forgot about the fact
- 31:13Speaker 1: that he had lost consciousness. The only reminder was this
- 31:17Speaker 1: mark on his back, which remained periodically painful from time
- 31:21Speaker 1: to time and would always remind him of his strange
- 31:25Speaker 1: experience with this UFO, So ultimately it kind of left
- 31:29Speaker 1: his mind for decades, but was thirty years later in
- 31:34Speaker 1: nineteen ninety, Klaus Deeterer had to undergo spinal surgery at
- 31:38Speaker 1: Offenbach Hospital and to his surprise, the doctor told him
- 31:43Speaker 1: that his X rays showed evidence of a prior surgery
- 31:47Speaker 1: exactly where Klaus Deeterer had found this puncture mark decades earlier,
- 31:51Speaker 1: immediately after his UFO encounter. The problem was, he hadn't
- 31:55Speaker 1: had prior surgery, so this very quickly reminded him of
- 32:00Speaker 1: his encounter, which he hadn't thought about for such a
- 32:03Speaker 1: long time, and as if on cue, his memories of
- 32:07Speaker 1: what occurred during the missing time began to return. It
- 32:11Speaker 1: took a while he had to meditate on it, but
- 32:14Speaker 1: before long he remembered much of what had happened during
- 32:17Speaker 1: these three hours of missing time. So he now recalled
- 32:22Speaker 1: seeing this saturn like object being struck by this beam
- 32:26Speaker 1: of light. But he says he didn't actually lose consciousness,
- 32:31Speaker 1: but fell into sort of a trance like state. And
- 32:35Speaker 1: this is when he noticed, standing real close to him
- 32:38Speaker 1: were several figures. They stepped out of this misty area
- 32:42Speaker 1: and walked up to him. He said they were each
- 32:44Speaker 1: about four and a half feet tall, dressed in skin
- 32:48Speaker 1: tight jumpsuits that little tiny silver boxes attached to the chest.
- 32:54Speaker 1: He said they had small hairless heads, a small chin,
- 32:57Speaker 1: nose and mouth, but did have very low, large prominent eyes,
- 33:02Speaker 1: he says, their arms and legs were strong and muscular.
- 33:05Speaker 1: He noticed that their feet or shoes looked like flippers
- 33:08Speaker 1: with two toes. He says. The figures did include both
- 33:12Speaker 1: men and women, which he judged by the shapes of
- 33:15Speaker 1: their bodies. He says all the figures walked with a
- 33:19Speaker 1: strange jerking gait, very fast and purposefully, holding their arms
- 33:24Speaker 1: at sort of an angle, reminding Klaus Deeter of soldiers.
- 33:28Speaker 1: So at this point he was still very much dazzled
- 33:31Speaker 1: by this brilliant light that had struck him, But he
- 33:34Speaker 1: sensed one of the beings asking him to come closer,
- 33:37Speaker 1: so he started to walk towards them, he says, under
- 33:40Speaker 1: his own free will. He says, he felt a great
- 33:42Speaker 1: affection for this et. Now a fence was still separating
- 33:47Speaker 1: him from these figures, and he was about to climb
- 33:50Speaker 1: it to get closer to them, when the et suggested
- 33:53Speaker 1: that he just stand next to the fence, which he did,
- 33:56Speaker 1: and suddenly Klaus Dieter felt himself levitated, being lifted upwards,
- 34:02Speaker 1: and looking up, he saw that the UFO above him
- 34:05Speaker 1: was growing closer and larger, in that he was being
- 34:08Speaker 1: carried towards it. The next thing he knew, he found
- 34:12Speaker 1: himself inside a yellowish domed room was illuminated with a
- 34:17Speaker 1: bright yellow light. He said he was seated in a
- 34:21Speaker 1: reclined chair, which he says was very much like a
- 34:24Speaker 1: dentist's chair. In front of him, he saw a large
- 34:27Speaker 1: round opening leading into another room. Facing him, standing by
- 34:32Speaker 1: the wall were several gray green entities. Actually they did
- 34:37Speaker 1: have their backs towards him, and he says they were
- 34:40Speaker 1: holding onto what looked like handles on the wall and
- 34:43Speaker 1: were pumping these handles up and down. He couldn't really
- 34:46Speaker 1: tell what they were doing. He did see another type
- 34:50Speaker 1: of et, which he recalls filled him with fear, but
- 34:53Speaker 1: he is unable to recall exactly what it looked like.
- 34:58Speaker 1: But standing next to him was another figure who had
- 35:01Speaker 1: very large eyes with whites in the eyes and small
- 35:04Speaker 1: dark pupils. He said it had leathery webbed fingers which
- 35:09Speaker 1: he stuck into Klauskeeter's mouth kind of pulling or yanking
- 35:12Speaker 1: on his teeth. This caused the witness to feel somewhat nauseous.
- 35:18Speaker 1: He felt them trying to loosen his belt and remove
- 35:20Speaker 1: his pants, and during this time he could hear them talking,
- 35:23Speaker 1: both male and female voices, and this is when he
- 35:27Speaker 1: did have quite a bit of fear. He actually wondered
- 35:30Speaker 1: if he was going to be killed. This brought him
- 35:32Speaker 1: two tears actually, But this is when he noticed another
- 35:36Speaker 1: small gray being. He said it had an enormous bald head,
- 35:41Speaker 1: huge brown black, shiny almond shaped eyes, wrinkled skin, a
- 35:47Speaker 1: very thin mouth, no visible nose or ears. But Klaus
- 35:51Speaker 1: Deta sensed this incredible kindness coming from this being, and
- 35:55Speaker 1: in fact, he says, it seemed to be very curious
- 35:57Speaker 1: about him, and it comforted him and told him that
- 36:00Speaker 1: he would be allowed to return home. So this provided
- 36:04Speaker 1: him some definite reduction of his fear. The next thing,
- 36:09Speaker 1: Klaus Deeter knew he was being levitated through the air,
- 36:12Speaker 1: exiting the craft and being placed down next to the
- 36:16Speaker 1: fence where this whole experience began. During this, he could hear,
- 36:21Speaker 1: but not see the sound of breathing behind him. Actually
- 36:25Speaker 1: reached behind him and felt what seemed like a belt
- 36:27Speaker 1: hooked to him, but suddenly a force pushed his hand back,
- 36:31Speaker 1: he says, And at this point Klaus Deeter did faint,
- 36:35Speaker 1: and that turned out to be the end of his
- 36:37Speaker 1: experience and that was all he could recall. An amazing case.
- 36:42Speaker 1: It's really interesting to me how he recalled it years
- 36:46Speaker 1: after the event. That's actually not that unusual. That does happen.
- 36:50Speaker 1: Sometimes people have what I call a que something that
- 36:54Speaker 1: reminds them about the experience and just sitting down and
- 36:57Speaker 1: meditating about it can bring back the memories. That's apparently
- 37:00Speaker 1: what happened in Klaus Deter's case, which is so interesting
- 37:04Speaker 1: also because of the physiological evidence, the doctor telling him, well,
- 37:09Speaker 1: it looks like you've had an operation, when he hadn't,
- 37:13Speaker 1: or apparently he had with the ETS. And again this
- 37:18Speaker 1: was an experience that he felt was ultimately benevolent. Just
- 37:22Speaker 1: a fascinating case all around, with so many different types
- 37:26Speaker 1: of ETS and what he experienced while he was on board.
- 37:30Speaker 1: And now he moved to another really interesting case which
- 37:34Speaker 1: did get quite a bit of attention in the country
- 37:38Speaker 1: where it happened, but I don't know if it's very
- 37:41Speaker 1: well known outside of Argentina where it took place. I
- 37:45Speaker 1: call this case the case of Gilberto Gregorio Caccioli, and
- 37:51Speaker 1: this is an interesting case which took place on October fourth,
- 37:54Speaker 1: nineteen seventy two in Burzaco, Argentina, has some really interesting
- 38:01Speaker 1: evidence to it as well, physical evidence, animal reactions, certainly
- 38:06Speaker 1: physiological evidence. It's a remarkable case that deserves to be
- 38:12Speaker 1: more well known, with someone being pulled on board, seeing
- 38:15Speaker 1: some very unusual type ets, having some very interesting interactions
- 38:21Speaker 1: with them. The main witness in this case is again
- 38:24Speaker 1: Gilberto Paccioli, a fifty year old construction worker, and it
- 38:29Speaker 1: was around three point fifteen in the morning on October fourth,
- 38:32Speaker 1: nineteen seventy two, when he heard strange noises outside his
- 38:36Speaker 1: home in Burzaco, which is located outside of Buenos Aires, Argentina. Now,
- 38:41Speaker 1: he first thought it might be his dog. His dog
- 38:44Speaker 1: had a habit of escaping from the house and jumping
- 38:47Speaker 1: the fence. It was quite a difficult dog to deal with.
- 38:50Speaker 1: So he crawled out of bed, opened the door, stepped outside,
- 38:54Speaker 1: and this is when he walked right into the strangest
- 38:57Speaker 1: experience of his life. And I'll just let Giroberto describe
- 39:01Speaker 1: what happened in his own words. So he steps outside,
- 39:05Speaker 1: and as Gilberto says, when doing so, a very intense
- 39:10Speaker 1: light dazzled me and I lost consciousness. What I remember
- 39:14Speaker 1: was is waking up in a small room with a
- 39:18Speaker 1: metallic appearance, with neither doors, nor windows, nor any other
- 39:22Speaker 1: openings that could be seen. Only polygonal pipes could be
- 39:27Speaker 1: seen on the walls and on the roof of the room.
- 39:31Speaker 1: The satin sky was like silver, very bright, like fluorescent
- 39:35Speaker 1: lights that because of their brightness, it was impossible to
- 39:38Speaker 1: look at them. I could not distinguish the range of
- 39:41Speaker 1: colors I was seeing. There were many beings in the
- 39:44Speaker 1: room and around me. Their exact number I cannot specify.
- 39:49Speaker 1: There were two meters tall and thirty centimeters that's about
- 39:53Speaker 1: seven feet just under. But as he says, they were
- 39:58Speaker 1: very thin, I believe they were no whider than twenty centimeters.
- 40:01Speaker 1: Their gaze was strong, so much so that I couldn't
- 40:04Speaker 1: look at their eyes. When I could look at their eyes,
- 40:08Speaker 1: I saw that they were hollow and deep. The nose
- 40:10Speaker 1: was wide and flattened, and the lips thin. They were
- 40:14Speaker 1: covered in a kind of olive green uniform, was like
- 40:17Speaker 1: a diving suit. The inexpressiveness of their faces makes me
- 40:21Speaker 1: think that they might have been masked. Their faces were
- 40:25Speaker 1: very long. They had a wide belt with squares with
- 40:28Speaker 1: flashing lights. So Gilberto became quite frightened and one of
- 40:33Speaker 1: the beings, the only one who was wearing any kind
- 40:35Speaker 1: of headgear, spoke verbally, he thought at first. He later
- 40:39Speaker 1: decided it was telepathic, but this being spoke to him
- 40:42Speaker 1: and said, don't worry, nothing will happen to you. This
- 40:47Speaker 1: did provide him some comfort, and looking at the figures,
- 40:50Speaker 1: he could see that they were mostly human looking, but
- 40:53Speaker 1: did have very wide, very long chins. And yet after
- 40:58Speaker 1: they continued to speak with him, he realized that they
- 41:01Speaker 1: were actually speaking telepathically. He said. The room that he
- 41:05Speaker 1: was in was very large, brightly lit. It kind of
- 41:08Speaker 1: reminded him of a scientific laboratory, because he says, the
- 41:12Speaker 1: walls and everything was made out of metal. He saw
- 41:16Speaker 1: many strange quote apparatus and instruments, but he couldn't tell
- 41:22Speaker 1: what they were. They were kind of beyond his ability
- 41:24Speaker 1: to understand. He could see that he was sitting on
- 41:27Speaker 1: a circular bench which looked like it had colored lights
- 41:31Speaker 1: on it. One of the beings took a small device
- 41:34Speaker 1: sort of like a suction cup with a funnel and
- 41:37Speaker 1: a pencil like extrusion on it, and took a small
- 41:40Speaker 1: quantity of blood from the fourth finger of his left hand.
- 41:44Speaker 1: This surprised him because there was no needle, nor did
- 41:47Speaker 1: he feel any pain whatsoever. He said a sperm sample
- 41:52Speaker 1: was also taken, though in a later interview he elaborated
- 41:56Speaker 1: on this and said what actually happened was that there
- 41:59Speaker 1: were two other woman from the Berzaco area on the ship,
- 42:03Speaker 1: human woman, and that he was made to have intimate
- 42:06Speaker 1: relations with both of them. Now, Gilberto did have the
- 42:12Speaker 1: impression that the beings were entirely friendly, as he says
- 42:16Speaker 1: in his own words, these beings were very kind to me,
- 42:20Speaker 1: and their voices were very sweet. While I was in
- 42:23Speaker 1: that room, I heard children crying, calling their mother. But
- 42:27Speaker 1: I don't know where that crying came from. It may
- 42:29Speaker 1: be from some family, but I didn't see any in there.
- 42:33Speaker 1: As one of the beings took my blood away, I
- 42:35Speaker 1: looked around me, and so it was that I could
- 42:38Speaker 1: see in the pavement some stones piled up. So yeah,
- 42:42Speaker 1: he heard children crying, as could be from houses in
- 42:45Speaker 1: the areas what he's saying, But he saw some weird
- 42:48Speaker 1: piled up stones on the ship, and he was very
- 42:51Speaker 1: curious about it and wanted proof of his experience. So
- 42:55Speaker 1: Gilberto asked if he could take one of the stones.
- 42:59Speaker 1: The being replied no. But then the being looked at
- 43:02Speaker 1: one of the other ET's and then bent down and
- 43:05Speaker 1: picked up one of the stones and actually handed it
- 43:07Speaker 1: to Gilberto. Now, before Gilberto took it in his hands,
- 43:12Speaker 1: he asked if this stone contained any radioactivity, and the
- 43:17Speaker 1: beings told him to just take the stone and that
- 43:21Speaker 1: quote nothing will happen to you. And this is when
- 43:24Speaker 1: suddenly his onboard experience came to a quick end. And
- 43:28Speaker 1: as the witness says, I didn't have time to ask
- 43:31Speaker 1: him if the stone was terrestrial or not, but I'm
- 43:35Speaker 1: sure it belonged to our planet. It was iron high.
- 43:38Speaker 1: Right when I had the stone in my hand, I
- 43:40Speaker 1: closed my hand and appeared again at home. I was calm,
- 43:45Speaker 1: standing stone in hand. If I hadn't had that stone,
- 43:49Speaker 1: what happened would have seemed like a nightmare. So yeah,
- 43:53Speaker 1: he had some physical evidence of his experience. He could
- 43:58Speaker 1: see that it was now three fifty fifty five a m.
- 44:01Speaker 1: Forty minutes had passed, and upon his return he also
- 44:06Speaker 1: noticed something else. There was, in fact a mark on
- 44:09Speaker 1: his finger where this blood sample had been taken. He
- 44:12Speaker 1: said the finger afterwards would swell up on and off
- 44:16Speaker 1: for some time. He also noticed a minor pain at
- 44:20Speaker 1: the base of his neck for about three days after
- 44:23Speaker 1: his encounter. He also suffered from vertigo and a sense
- 44:27Speaker 1: of dissociation. In fact, as he says, when I walked,
- 44:32Speaker 1: it was like I was walking on air. I found
- 44:35Speaker 1: that interesting because that it is a description I've heard
- 44:38Speaker 1: from many contactees. He noticed that his dog was somewhat
- 44:42Speaker 1: traumatized and scared. It didn't eat normally for some time,
- 44:47Speaker 1: and experienced what looked like bouts of semi paralysis. Now
- 44:51Speaker 1: the stone given to Gioberto was in fact analyzed by
- 44:56Speaker 1: his friends who worked as miners, and it again revealed
- 45:00Speaker 1: itself to be normal earthly iron pyrite. Still interesting, though,
- 45:06Speaker 1: the strangest effect was perhaps that Gilberto noticed an increase
- 45:11Speaker 1: in intuitive sensitivity. He says he suddenly possessed a whole
- 45:16Speaker 1: new understanding and knowledge of physics, astronomy, and philosophy, which
- 45:22Speaker 1: was very unusual as his education had never gone beyond
- 45:26Speaker 1: primary school. Now, Gilberto says that he did actually remain
- 45:31Speaker 1: in telepathic contact with the ets, as he says, sometimes
- 45:36Speaker 1: I feel a jingling noise back here on the make
- 45:39Speaker 1: of back of my neck, and I know that they
- 45:43Speaker 1: are calling me to communicate something telepathically. I actually saw
- 45:48Speaker 1: them only once after that day, but I have communicated
- 45:51Speaker 1: with them many times. They tell me many things that
- 45:54Speaker 1: I cannot reveal because they won't let me. What an
- 45:58Speaker 1: amazing case that is the fact that they gave him
- 46:01Speaker 1: this rock. Although it turned out to be an earth rock,
- 46:04Speaker 1: it's still kind of interesting. His medical evidence is also
- 46:10Speaker 1: very interesting to me. The most interesting aspect is the
- 46:14Speaker 1: psychological or spiritual and psychic after effects, with him suddenly
- 46:18Speaker 1: becoming interested in all these really deeply philosophical and spiritual
- 46:24Speaker 1: and scientific subjects. This is something we see. Apparently there's
- 46:28Speaker 1: something about UFO contact that wakes people up in a
- 46:32Speaker 1: number of different ways. A contact experience challenges people on
- 46:36Speaker 1: multiple levels, particularly an on board experience that challenges them physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually,
- 46:44Speaker 1: and psychically. So it's a really profound, peak superlative experience
- 46:51Speaker 1: that is often something people will remember for the rest
- 46:54Speaker 1: of their lives. Now this let's move to the very
- 47:00Speaker 1: last case of this little collection. I call this one
- 47:03Speaker 1: the case of istvan Balog. This took place on December
- 47:07Speaker 1: twenty sixth, nineteen ninety one, in Beacon, Hungary, and this
- 47:13Speaker 1: is a really interesting case. The witnesses a young man
- 47:16Speaker 1: who worked for the National Guard, so he was a
- 47:19Speaker 1: border guard, and that I think makes him a very
- 47:24Speaker 1: credible witness. Like many, he wanted to keep his experiences
- 47:28Speaker 1: secret and did initially when he started experiencing some very
- 47:33Speaker 1: unusual events, but certainly couldn't hide it from his parents,
- 47:36Speaker 1: who knew instantly something very profound had happened to him.
- 47:43Speaker 1: As in all these cases, he was taken on board,
- 47:45Speaker 1: had a very interesting interaction with unusual ets and as
- 47:51Speaker 1: we shall see, some really remarkable proof of his contact.
- 47:56Speaker 1: This case comes from researcher Gabor Kark of HUFAN, the
- 48:01Speaker 1: Hungarian UFO Research Network, and it involves a twenty one
- 48:06Speaker 1: year old military border guard by the name of Istvan Ballog.
- 48:11Speaker 1: This case took place in the town of Beeks in
- 48:13Speaker 1: Hungary and it was beginning on December thirteenth, nineteen ninety
- 48:18Speaker 1: one that Istvan was sleeping in bed when he was
- 48:22Speaker 1: awakened by a voice that spoke three times in a
- 48:25Speaker 1: mechanical tone, saying you will meet us, you will meet us,
- 48:30Speaker 1: you will meet us. So this fun was wondering if
- 48:35Speaker 1: this was just some weird dream or nightmare, and at
- 48:37Speaker 1: first really didn't think too much of it. But the
- 48:40Speaker 1: next night the same thing happened again, and the night
- 48:44Speaker 1: after that. In fact, over the next week and a half,
- 48:48Speaker 1: for eleven nights in a row, he was woken up
- 48:51Speaker 1: the same time each night with this same message, you
- 48:55Speaker 1: will meet us, repeated three times. So this was absolutely
- 49:00Speaker 1: freaking him out. He was afraid to tell anyone, thinking
- 49:03Speaker 1: that he would not be believed. But at the same time,
- 49:06Speaker 1: he began to dread nighttime and he was barely able
- 49:09Speaker 1: to sleep. And it all came to a climax on
- 49:13Speaker 1: the evening of December twenty six, thirteen days after he
- 49:17Speaker 1: started getting these nightly messages. That night, he had gone
- 49:21Speaker 1: with his friends to the movies, and he returned to
- 49:25Speaker 1: his home about fifteen minutes after midnight, and he had
- 49:28Speaker 1: just opened the gate to his property and reached the
- 49:31Speaker 1: terrace of his home when he noticed something hovering just
- 49:34Speaker 1: a few meters above the ground in the courtyard. And
- 49:38Speaker 1: as he looked at it, he could see it was
- 49:39Speaker 1: a gray disk about twelve feet wide and seven feet
- 49:43Speaker 1: high and was glowing brightly. He said it had a weird,
- 49:47Speaker 1: squarish protrusion on the bottom a domed top. There was
- 49:51Speaker 1: a band around the center the circumference, and what appeared
- 49:55Speaker 1: to be a porthole along the side. Now, the moment
- 49:59Speaker 1: he saw this ob Istvan says that something strange happened.
- 50:03Speaker 1: He felt like he lost all his will power and
- 50:06Speaker 1: as though some strange force propelled him to walk directly
- 50:10Speaker 1: underneath this object. In the moment he did this, a
- 50:14Speaker 1: beam of light about two feet wide shone down from
- 50:17Speaker 1: the center. And unable to stop himself, Istvan walked directly
- 50:22Speaker 1: into the beam of light and immediately found himself inside
- 50:26Speaker 1: this UFO. Now inside the object, he was amazed to
- 50:31Speaker 1: see two short beings. He said. They looked pretty much human,
- 50:35Speaker 1: but were very short, only about four to four and
- 50:38Speaker 1: a half feet tall. They had large heads, very large eyes,
- 50:43Speaker 1: kind of a greenish skin, and long hands with only
- 50:46Speaker 1: three fingers on each hand. Each of them wore black,
- 50:50Speaker 1: skin tight clothing. Now, one of these beings was operating
- 50:54Speaker 1: some controls in the craft, while the other stood by.
- 50:58Speaker 1: Istvan t him. Looking around, Istvan saw no doors, only
- 51:04Speaker 1: one small window, which he estimated was about three to
- 51:07Speaker 1: four feet wide, and looking out the window, he could
- 51:10Speaker 1: see his yard, the room inside the Ufo was very bright,
- 51:14Speaker 1: he said, with smooth gray walls, and was at this
- 51:18Speaker 1: point that the being next to Istvan began to speak
- 51:21Speaker 1: to him telepathically in his native language of Hungarian. This
- 51:26Speaker 1: little guy so that they had been watching Istvan for
- 51:30Speaker 1: three years, and they told him they were going to
- 51:33Speaker 1: take him away on a trip of about fifteen million
- 51:36Speaker 1: light years, but that it would only take a very
- 51:39Speaker 1: short time as they were able to travel interdimensionally. At
- 51:44Speaker 1: this point, the being shone a green light onto Istvan's forehead.
- 51:49Speaker 1: This caused him some disorientation, and following this he doesn't
- 51:53Speaker 1: really remember clearly what happened next. He does have fragmented
- 51:58Speaker 1: memories of looking out the window and seeing what he
- 52:01Speaker 1: believes was the Moon's surface. He saw craters real close up.
- 52:06Speaker 1: He also recalled seeing puremiddal structures, but does not know
- 52:10Speaker 1: where these were. They were on Earth or perhaps another planet.
- 52:14Speaker 1: But the next thing he knew he was kneeling on
- 52:17Speaker 1: the ground in a sort of prayer posture, about six
- 52:20Speaker 1: feet from the location where he had been taken, but
- 52:22Speaker 1: still in his backyard. He did have a terrible headache,
- 52:26Speaker 1: he said, he was very dizzy, his whole body was trembling,
- 52:30Speaker 1: the muscles in his face were distorted. He had trouble
- 52:33Speaker 1: standing up, so he was pretty severely affected by all this.
- 52:38Speaker 1: He did manage to stumble into his house. He could
- 52:41Speaker 1: see that it was now two a m. So this
- 52:44Speaker 1: on board encounter had lasted about one hour and forty
- 52:47Speaker 1: five minutes, of which he only remembers a little bit.
- 52:51Speaker 1: He went straight to bed, but when he woke up
- 52:53Speaker 1: the next morning, he told his parents, and they told
- 52:57Speaker 1: him that they had not noticed anything out of the
- 52:59Speaker 1: ordinary night, but when they heard his amazing story, they
- 53:03Speaker 1: absolutely believed their son because they could see he was
- 53:06Speaker 1: in great distress. Now Istvan had to go to work
- 53:10Speaker 1: that day, so he went to the barracks where he worked,
- 53:13Speaker 1: but he had to be driven there. He couldn't walk
- 53:16Speaker 1: on his own. They called a doctor and he was
- 53:18Speaker 1: actually driven to his job, and once there he immediately
- 53:22Speaker 1: reported to his superiors and told them what happened. Now
- 53:27Speaker 1: they did not believe him, and they sent him to
- 53:30Speaker 1: the nearby hospital for a medical examination, and then he
- 53:35Speaker 1: was sent to the psychiatric ward in the Central Hospital
- 53:38Speaker 1: of Budapest. Now, thankfully, a psychiatric exam showed Istaman to
- 53:44Speaker 1: be perfectly healthy, but despite this, he was discharged from
- 53:50Speaker 1: his job as a border guard, and the official explanation
- 53:54Speaker 1: was that he was quote unreliable and unfit for further
- 53:58Speaker 1: military service. But something very interesting did result from the
- 54:04Speaker 1: medical exam Earlier in his life. Istvan had broken his
- 54:08Speaker 1: arm and had to have a platinum rod inserted. However,
- 54:13Speaker 1: when examined and x rayed in the hospital, they saw
- 54:16Speaker 1: that this platinum rod was now missing, so apparently the
- 54:20Speaker 1: ETS took it. So there you go. That's the case
- 54:23Speaker 1: of Istvan Balog and what an interesting case. It is
- 54:27Speaker 1: an absolute proof of ET intervention given the fact that
- 54:33Speaker 1: this platinum rod that had been inserted in his body
- 54:36Speaker 1: by doctors following him breaking his arm was no longer there.
- 54:41Speaker 1: So that's certainly something that can't happen by accident. It's
- 54:46Speaker 1: really remarkable evidence. Such a shame that he was treated
- 54:52Speaker 1: as he was by his superiors in the military, losing
- 54:57Speaker 1: his job that way just because he had an experienced.
- 55:00Speaker 1: That's hardly fair. That's certainly something we do see over
- 55:04Speaker 1: and over again. People will have a UFO experience and
- 55:08Speaker 1: as a result, lose their job because of it. I
- 55:12Speaker 1: did a whole episode on that previously on this channel,
- 55:15Speaker 1: so you can check that out if you're interested. But
- 55:18Speaker 1: what an amazing case. All five of these cases I
- 55:21Speaker 1: think have quite a bit to tell us about the ets,
- 55:25Speaker 1: who they are, why they're here, where they come from,
- 55:29Speaker 1: what they're doing on this planet and with us, and
- 55:33Speaker 1: all the different types of ets there are, how people
- 55:36Speaker 1: react to contact, how people are treated because of their contact.
- 55:41Speaker 1: Many really interesting insights into all of this from these
- 55:46Speaker 1: cases alone, which, as I'm sure you know by now,
- 55:49Speaker 1: represent only the very tip of the iceberg. Many many
- 55:54Speaker 1: more people are being taken on board UFOs than is
- 55:58Speaker 1: publicly revealed. People are much more likely to talk about
- 56:01Speaker 1: a simple sighting, but if they have face to face
- 56:04Speaker 1: contact or are taken on board, they're very unlikely to
- 56:08Speaker 1: talk about it. The vast majority simply don't because, as
- 56:12Speaker 1: we can see, reactions can be quite skeptical, hostile. People
- 56:17Speaker 1: will ridicual witnesses mercilessly. This can break apart families and marriages.
- 56:23Speaker 1: It's a real tough thing for a witness to go through,
- 56:26Speaker 1: to have an experience like this and then have to
- 56:28Speaker 1: deal with all these after effects in relationships and physically
- 56:34Speaker 1: and again mentally spiritually. All of it. It's quite an ordeal,
- 56:39Speaker 1: but certainly a fascinating experience that many, many, many people
- 56:43Speaker 1: are having. It's why I do this research, because so
- 56:47Speaker 1: many people out there are having these experiences, looking for
- 56:51Speaker 1: answers and have no recourse. So that's it for today.
- 56:56Speaker 1: I really want to thank you for watching. I truly
- 56:58Speaker 1: appreciate it. Again, it's because of you guys that I
- 57:01Speaker 1: do this research and are putting and and putting out
- 57:04Speaker 1: these episodes. So thank you, thank you, thank you for watching.
- 57:08Speaker 1: And until next time, keep asking those hard questions, keep
- 57:13Speaker 1: searching for the truth it's out there, and most important
- 57:16Speaker 1: of all, keep having fun. I will see you next time.
- 57:20Speaker 1: BUYE for now.