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BG Cast & Shane The Ruiner · Ryder Lee

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  What is going on? Everybody? Happy Wednesday, Happy Wednesday. Thank you
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  for joining me for another BEGI Cast Wednesday Live podcast. You guys noticed I
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  swapped up the look a little bit. I gave Tim Poole his beanie back,
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  I got my hair cut, and you know, this is where we're
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  at tonight, guys. So it's just been hot as hell here in Colorado,
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  like it has been the past few weeks. But nonetheless, let's dive
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  right into it. I've got a dream team here with me tonight, two
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  very very special guests I'm about to bring on, you know who kind of
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  see things the way we're seeing them at this point in time. I made
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  a post earlier today on X talking about how something very strange has happened in
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  the conspiracy community, especially for individuals who've been following it for a long time,
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  such as myself and the two people I'm going to bring on, and
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  we're gonna break down exactly what the hell is so strange and what's going on.
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  So first I want to welcome to the stage Ride. He's been on
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  the show before. What's up Man? Thanks again for being here tonight.
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  What's up, dude? I'm excited to be here, my friend, I
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  got my kick him in the caball sunglasses going on. I can only kick
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  him in the caballs with these sunglasses on. And we're in a once in
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  a lifetime show here today with my good friend Shane and you. So I'm
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  very much looking forward to it. Thank you, man. And I got
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  mister Shane Sador. He has not been on my show, but I have
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  been on his. And welcome to your first time here. Man. How's
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  it going? Absolutely spectacularly if that's a real word. If it's not,
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  is now, well just created it, dude, I'm telling you. Man.
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  So all right, guys, it's it's a pleasure to have you here.
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  Let's dive right into this. I mean, so both of you guys
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  are very similar to me. You know, you have been observing this situation
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  for quite some time, and you've seen a lot of weirdness to emerge from
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  this, especially on the side of the conspiracy and the truth or community.
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  And to me, it seems like, you know, at a time,
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  we had, at least in my eyes, we had somewhat before twenty twenty,
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  what I would call a somewhat unified, somewhat credible community at that point,
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  I mean, there were somewhat people trying to do the right things,
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  but you know, of course we had things here and there. But then
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  it seems like after twenty twenty or even potentially before, we had a lot
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  of weird things get thrown into the mix and the water's muddy, it seems
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  to be. So let's start off with Wright, Wright, what do you
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  think is going on? Man? What do you think? Why do you
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  think the deterioration of the conspiracy slash truther or community has has become what it
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  is and why do you think it's almost kind of assimilated itself into almost a
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  mainstream media kind of category at this point, Well, it's because we are
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  the media now, like mainstream media has failed, it is not pulling in
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  the numbers that it used to pull in, and now we are the media.
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  And it's almost exactly like what's happening with regular TV as well. You
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  know, with all the streaming services and stuff like it used to be regular
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  TV. You sit down and you watch it at a specific time. If
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  you don't watch it at a specific time, you're not able to see it
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  anymore, or you have to wait a while to see it. And what
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  they did is they took for a really cheap price. They were like,
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  okay, well six ninety nine you can get Netflix. You know, that's
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  where the baseline Netflix started out, was six ninety nine around that area,
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  because I remember when I first got it, when it first came out,
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  And now they've switched that, they've turned that into now you have to pay
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  more to get that premium Netflix, but they've given you a base here,
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  and the base here is with ads, right, and what is regular TV?
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  Regular TV made money because of the ads made money because of everything they
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  could be promoted on that TV show, on the news, on all of
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  those watching a movie on regular TV. And now for the same price that
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  you were getting before, now you get the ad version of it, you
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  know. And that's how they've all done. That's how like Peacock is,
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  That's how Hulu is, That's how Netflix is, That's how HBO is.
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  You get the low tier. You can pay the same amount that it was
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  when it first started. But now you're gonna get bombarded with freaking stupid pharmaceutical
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  ads, cancer ads, HPV, freaking all these ridiculous pharmaceutical things that have
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  absolutely nothing. I've never had any either of you ever watched an AD on
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  TV and then thought, oh, I immediately need to go ask my doctor
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  about this. You know how at the end of every pharmaceutical commercial that like,
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  ask your doctor about luxeber, actual doctor, if this is right for
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  you. Has anybody ever watched an AD and then immediately win and ask their
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  doctor if they can be put on this medication. It's the most ridiculous thing
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  that I've ever heard, Like, and I've never washed an ad either where
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  I want to go buy that product. Like, no bounty commercial has ever
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  convinced me to buy a bounty not toilet paper but tile paper. You know,
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  Don dishwashing liquid has never made me want to wash off a freaking bird
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  that's been involved in an oil spill, you know, like Don dishwashing commercials
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  wash everything besides the dishes. I know, you're it's almost like, I
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  want to say, the pharmaceutical it's like a glorified trap house the pharmaceutical commercials
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  man. Because I'll always remember the Robin Williams skit where he's like talking about
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  his doctor coming up to him like, hey, hey, Robin, I
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  got this new shit I want you to try. Let me let me slide
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  you a sample pack of this and if you really like this, you know,
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  call me and I'll hook you up. It's like it's almost like it's
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  like a glorified trap house when we're talking about that kind of stuff, I
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  mean, or glorified drug dealing. Honestly, in my opinion, yeah,
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  that's what it really seems like. And I kind of went off on a
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  little tangent there on on media and stuff, but that's really how it is.
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  But when it comes to the community, we've seen this evolving nature of
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  the community. And I was listening back in like the early two thousands and
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  and how far it's gone, and you know, let's let's just make conspiracies
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  interesting again. There's literally not it's it's a regurgitation after regurgitation. It's old
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  information is being regurgitated for a new group of people. I me and Shane
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  have talked about this several times on my show. And it's it's cern,
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  it's harp, it's uh Tartaria, it's the World's Fairs, it's Antarctica has
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  directed energy weapons. It's like we get these things that pop up, like
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  every couple of months, there's some kind of new event that is then related
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  back to one of those five things, and it's just it's a constant revolving
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  door of those things. And then people will dig up old videos that people
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  have seen and heard a thousand times that's been into this community for a really
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  long time, and then repost them as if it's something brand new, like
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  all the time. I just seen that one guy. I just seen a
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  video earlier today on Facebook of I forget what that guy's name. It was
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  like in ninety five or whatever, where he was sitting down and like talking
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  about the Reptilians. I'm sure, Shane, Shane, you know what I'm
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  talking about, where he's like the Auctorians came in and it took over the
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  Reptilions, and then Auctorians didn't do a good enough job and they had to
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  send in the galactic reinforcements of the Pladians, and then the Pladings came in,
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  and now the Pladions are in control and the Reptilions are really really really
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  really strong and powerful and it's like a three hour long conversation. But they've
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  they just clipped out a little thing of that and then put it online and
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  then acting like it's something like brand new, and that's just like a common
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  thing that has just happened over and over again, and the degeneration of the
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  content within the community is always related to something that's happened before. It's wild.
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  It seems like it's just consistently be No, I'm with you, it
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  seems like it's consistently being recycled. And I've noticed this as well that the
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  things that are getting recycled, they're they're adding like these new nuances, like
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  you're saying, try to make them seem new, try to make it seem
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  like it's information that you know, a lot of us haven't heard before.
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  On top of that, also, man, they're just you know, and
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  I kind of blame TikTok for this. I don't know if I can completely
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  blame TikTok for this one hundred percent, but they have. They've been the
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  ones pumping out like the most ridiculous things like you know, as far as
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  like the most ridiculous like fear monitoring. I mean, we all talked about
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  what's going to happen for the EMS test that happened back however long ago,
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  how it was going to shoot these neutrinos through you and it was gonna you
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  know, map your body and all the people who got the vaccine, it
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  was going to activate the nanotechnology inside of them and they were all going to
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  be good. I know that's where I where I kind of, you know.
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  I I don't want to place blame on TikTok, because I know it's
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  a lot of people in the community, but that just seems to be where
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  it's been. Like focused on that now, Sane. One thing I want
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  to talk to you about real quick is something that you brought up to me
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  when I was on your show, about how the conspiracy community has been infiltrated
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  for quite some time, even before the days of the Internet. So why
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  don't you elaborate on that a little bit well without going too much into the
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  weeds, because I know that some of your viewers don't know who I am,
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  but I've been a whistleblower since I was like twenty sixteen. I come
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  from what you guys all call the Illuminati, even though that's not the real
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  word for it, and I used to work doing disinformation for them, specifically
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  related to UFOs, because they were trying to cover up my lab experimentations and
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  things like that. And then eventually I got a pretty good look at what
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  they were doing for this blossoming. It used to be kind of in you
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  know, conference halls or basements, some dude's basement or maybe a library or
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  something like that. But then we got the Internet. We started to get
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  forums and chat rooms and things like that. But back before the Internet even
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  it was already being infiltrated with basically disinformations. So something that the illuminati did
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  was dump all of the truth to people from going back, I don't know,
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  fifty sixty years now, and allowed researchers to do what they do with
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  it, right, and then steered those people very very carefully towards curated conclusions,
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  let's put it that way, and then propped up the people who came
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  to the correct conclusions to start what the original alternative community was, which was
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  prior to the Internet, right. And then when I started to really look
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  at it was the early days with like you know, all the early whistleblower
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  interviews and everything. I don't have name channels and stuff like that, but
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  like when it went it released in the forums, and I was a moderator
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  of a popular one things like that, and I was all still working for
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  them at the time and reporting back to them on what I was seeing,
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  And at that time I used to fight with him a lot because I thought
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  we were when I say we the public were smarter than we have turned out
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  to be with all of this information. But you know, they predicted that
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  this is what would have happened, right, And I can remember talking to
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  researchers back in twenty ten about how one of their big plans was to try
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  and criminalize conspiracy theory and really demonize the alternative community as it was, because
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  they knew that kind of what writer was just saying, a mainstream alternative community
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  was coming, right, the intellectual dark Web, people like Joe Rogan,
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  people like us all kind of combined into one thing. They knew that that
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  was coming, and so they wanted to make sure that there was so much
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  mud in the water that we were doing exactly what we've been doing, right,
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  which is creating conspiracy snowballs and conspiracy burritos and never actually going back and
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  looking at the center of that snowball and the foundation of the house that we
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  built on that land and things like that to really find it if any of
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  this stuff was ever true in the first place. Right, And you know,
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  I've been saying that for a long time, and people were getting really
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  mad at me. But you know, year after year after year after year,
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  there's just more proof than the result that that's exactly what's going on here.
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  And so since twenty twenty when the thing happened, we've had this big
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  influx of people waking up, right which the community before that, as you
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  said, was sort of unified. We had our problems, but we did
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  have a pretty solid community at that point in time. We were all waiting
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  for that, right, We were waiting for the event that was going to
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  wake everybody up, and then we were going to the Promised Land. We
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  were going to get what we wanted. We but what did we do well?
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  We we made it so that all those people who came into this world
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  ended up stuck in a perpetual rabbit hole that they'll never find out of,
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  because, you know, they've got a handful of truth and a fistful of
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  you know, getting alien probed on Mars, you know, and they don't
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  know what Israel. So they could kind of just do this and they go
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  right back to where they were, right, or they end up ditching that
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  cult, the mainstream cult, if you will, and just joining one of
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  the many cults we offer within our community, because we have those too.
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  We did a great job of building cults within our community. It was really
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  impressive. It was almost like we were trained to do it or something.
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  And that's what I'm trying to say, is that we were and yeah,
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  and now here we are where you know, it was supposed to be the
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  only kind of safe haven from the mainstream clown show, and now it's just
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  as much as of a clown show, right. Like writer drops some names
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  of different things that have gone through, like the QAnon thing. I was
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  warning about that years before it ever happened, Like this is going to happen.
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  I don't know what they're going to call it it, but everyone's gonna
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  love it. It's gonna come up on a forum just like this. It's
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  gonna seem all mysterious and cryptic, and everyone's gonna buy its nonsense. And
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  it's gonna be the beginning of the end for us because they're gonna end up
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  creating domestic terrorism based on that, and here we are we have domestic terrorism
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  based on that. But I'm still just some guy who you know, I'm
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  a little bit Chevy Chase today meaning I'm in a little bit of pain and
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  so I might be a little bit cranky because they're hitting me with the d
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  w's to mine control me to tell you these things right with a do He's
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  getting hit with the mountain dew code red. Boy, you can't come back
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  from the mountain dew code red. He's getting baja blasted, man. But
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  no, no, Shane, I think you described it perfectly, man,
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  because yes, you know, we were all talking about the event, like
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  and we thought that after that event, like it was gonna just be a
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  whole old new thing. And you are absolutely right, you summed it.
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  You summed it up perfectly that it was our mentality. But boy were we
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  wrong. And you know the thing that you brought up about qan on too,
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  man, is this still going on? You still have people believing this.
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  I see it on x all the time. They have all these different
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  qu accounts, man, and they'll post like in forty eight hours, this
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  is gonna happen or this is the matter, this event's going to occur,
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  and then you see like all of these people buying into it. Man,
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  it almost seems like you know, like the the the I guess you could
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  say that the newer individuals who have quote unquote woken up. They're just dying
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  to grasp at anything that they possibly can. They're taking advantage of that.
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  So I mean, onto what the next thing, guys? I mean,
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  so, what do you think personally? All right, personally at this point
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  in time, do you feel is the biggest thing that they're doing to muddy
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  the waters? And I'm gonna honestly say, I feel it's the these the
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  conspiracy syops like you guys were talking, I call them syops sandwiches this point,
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  like I think I told told a writer or that. And the reason
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  why I call it is Siah is this layered like you have you have the
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  two pieces of bread, which are the sy op, but then you have
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  the sy op in the lettuce too, and then you have the sy op
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  and the tomato, and then you get to the meat and the meats full
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  of sy ops. I mean, what is your guys' opinion? I mean,
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  where do you think really that this all started to go downhill? Asides
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  from the potential infiltration, I mean, do you think it's human nature and
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  human behavior or was there any other kind of driving factors behind it? Well,
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  to follow up on what she was talking about, which I think was
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  really important when Sheen said that when you track back all these things to their
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  original source, you come to the conclusion that they were never real to begin
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  with. And unfortunately that is the case. I mean, that's one hundred
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  percent sure. I've done an entire series of UFO doomsday calls on my channel.
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  I'm doing a series right now on the legends of ufology and going back
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  and looking at what everybody talk about talks about now within the community, within
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  the New age community, within the conspiracy community, within ufology. It can
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  all be tracked back through all of these UFO cults. Everything that they've talked
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  about before, going as far back as the early thirties is just been changed
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  and molded and shifted and turned into something just slightly different than what was being
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  talked about before. And that's a really important thing to understand. And then
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  when you take into the Paul Bennowitz case and what was done to Paul Benowitz
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  and the misinformation and the deception surrounding him and what all came up out of
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  that. You know, so many different things came out of the Paul Benningwitz
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  case that are still regurgitated to this very day, including a contract with extraterrestrials
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  and the military that came directly out of this misinformation and deception ran on Paul
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  Bennowitz from the NSSA and Air Force Office Office of Special Investigations that there's that
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  the cattle mutilation stuff is connected to aliens and UFOs. That came from Paul
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  Benowitz as well. Uh a secret underground military facility in New Mexico came from
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  Paul Bennowitz too, And then it gets shaped and molded and then turned into
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  something that and then you got Bill Cooper that took that thought from Paul Benowitz
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  and then turned it into a contract that Eisenhower signed with aliens. It was
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  no longer the military that signed the contract with the extraterrestrials. It became Eisenhower
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  that signed the contract with extraterrestrials. And it's just it's unbelieving, and people
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  don't really want to look at that type of stuff because they've been so locked
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  into the lore and the mythology of you know, UFOs and aliens, which
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  UFOs and aliens are a big part of the conspirac community, whether people really
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  want to recognize it or not. Is. It is a large chunk and
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  because normally whenever people it's like you can take anything that's been blamed on aliens
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  and extra tresturials and you can just replace that with humans and you get the
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  exact same thing. Everything that's been talked about that extra trestrials are doing is
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  what humans are doing to other humans. Is what governments are doing to their
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  own people, to the to their own population. It's what the CIA is
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  doing, It's what the NSA is doing, it's what all these three letter
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  organizations are doing to their own people. You know, that's like the alien
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  human hybrids. Okay, well we just had one of the biggest largest border
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  crisis in US history. What are those people considered. They're considered aliens,
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  right exactly? Well, if they're right, newcomers, new comers, newcomers,
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  newcomers into the community. But if we were to if I were to
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  travel to a different country like Shane, if I were to go to Canada,
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  I would be considered an alien because I'm not from that land, i
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  don't live there. I'm an alien to your land. Same as if someone
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  comes from another country in the United States, they are an alien. And
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  then what happens when those aliens breed and mix with people from that native land,
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  they create alien hybrids. Right, It's true. It's true though it's
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  an alien invasion, but it's not an alien invasion from outer space. It's
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  an alien invasion from across the border. I would, dude. I'm telling
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  you and one thing I want everybody to consider about what writers saying. And
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  you know how I talk about human psychology and in nature a lot on this
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  channel. I mean that is the psychology of the government. Blame it on
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  something else. Get people to look in a different direction than what you're doing.
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  And like I said, I agree with writer. I do think that
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  a lot of what we see as extraterrestrial narrative that's being perpetuated in the mainstream
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  is by our government one hundred percent. So I agree with that wholeheartedly.
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  Shane, what do you think? What do you think is kind of the
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  worst thing going on with this right now? I know you wanted to talk
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  about the person we can't talk about, but you can go ahead and talk
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  about them all you want. Well, definitely, that's not the biggest problem.
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  But that's not the bigger thing. Far away from the biggest problem.
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  Even though people like to believe it's the biggest problem. No, yeah,
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  just kind of following on what writer said, Like he's talked about how the
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  earliest UFO stories have been adapted over time, But those UFO stories were adapted
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  from other types of law and folk tale that had to do more with entities
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  and spirits than it did with aliens too, Like all of those same cults
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  existed before we had the word alien to throw in there. In fact,
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  that was just a really clever twist and you know, made people a lot
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  of money along the way. So this has been something that we've been doing
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  for a long time because it facilitates cults. Let's just be real about it,
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  right, and going back to the foundation of things is important, Like
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  we might have learned recently with mathematics. Let's say that you have the equation
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  where you have to multiply one times one and then you have to add two.
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  Well, if you listen to Terrence Howard, then you're going to get
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  that equation wrong because you're going to multiply one times one wrong, right,
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  And so even if you add two correctly to that outcome, your answer is
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  still wrong. And that's the alternative community is like going all the way back
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  soon said that one times one was two, and we continued all the math
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  from there, and that was it. And for the most case, that
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  is true. And what a writer said about aliens. The other thing I
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  brought up is the reverse of that, which is how long does a species
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  have to be here before they're just native to this planet? Because when we
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  talk about the end KNACKI story, if we were to just kind of take
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  it at face value and they were here for thousands of years, who's the
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  alien at that point? Didn't they aren't? You know? But this is
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  just something that we do because it works. And I mean, I do
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  have firsthand knowledge, but I don't even need to rely on that at this
• 23:42
  point in time because it's so obvious to just point to everything as it's happening
• 23:47
  and you can see what they're doing. Having a fear of an enemy has
• 23:51
  always been important to the country you guys live in, for sure. As
• 23:56
  an example, and what was that Reagan speech about how if we had a
• 24:00
  one enemy that we could all unite around right then for an enemy from off
• 24:03
  world that would cause the But of course we we also really had to get
• 24:08
  rid of the communists. We really had to get rid of the Nazis before
• 24:11
  that we really needed to get rid of the Communists, and that we really
• 24:14
  needed to get rid of the Soviets, right, And how did they use
• 24:18
  all of that fear propaganda against their public? We can look at it with
• 24:21
  Hindsein now and it's pretty clear all the way that they did that they're they
• 24:26
  use aliens in no different capacity. They use it as the same type of
• 24:30
  PSIO. And what's even better about that is it it lets them get away
• 24:34
  with testing all kinds of stuff that they're not telling us that they're testing,
• 24:38
  right, and that they we don't understand, Like we can have a really
• 24:45
  early prototype for a NASA outfit land in Alabama one day and have a dis
• 24:49
  drop police officer takes some photos of them, and we think that it's an
• 24:52
  aliot, kidding writer, things like that mic was muted. Bro, Bro,
• 25:00
  I love the Alabama metal man. Stop talking is real, That's what
• 25:07
  I mean. It could just as easily have been that. And you know,
• 25:11
  with a lot of the stuff that we're seeing now, that's that talking
• 25:14
  plasma technology that they've been keeping a secret for a while. That's those unmanned
• 25:18
  crafts being driven around drones being driven around by AI that they've been talking about.
• 25:25
  And guys, just look at the way that they reveal this stuff like
• 25:26
  it comes out of nowhere, right. These things don't come out of nowhere.
• 25:30
  They have like a seven to fourteen year period before they could even start
• 25:34
  testing it, and then they have to test it for a long time before
• 25:38
  it comes out of nowhere. And that's where the programs came in. Was
• 25:44
  all of this testing that they were doing, right, and we understand,
• 25:47
  like we hear about it in Nazi Germany, right the end of all the
• 25:49
  Nazi scientists doing all those it wasn't just them. Russia was doing it,
• 25:53
  China was doing Japan was doing what the Americans were doing, the Canadians were
• 25:56
  doing, everybody was doing it. Everyone continued doing it too. The only
• 26:00
  thing that happened there is we got to take a group of them and distribute
• 26:03
  them into all the other places that we're doing it already too. And that
• 26:06
  has been what they've been doing all along, and it's leading to all this
• 26:08
  technology that we see coming out of nowhere. Right. And you know,
• 26:12
  through my experience, I saw thousands of people hooked up to this type of
• 26:18
  technology and I know of zero people who went out of space, right,
• 26:23
  and since coming out of all of that, I've seen all of that technology
• 26:27
  hit the public and I've seen zero people go to space. So, you
• 26:33
  know, I don't know what else to say about that. That's interesting,
• 26:37
  man, we're going to say right or go right ahead. Well, just
• 26:41
  to piggyback off of what she was saying about Canada doing these kinds of experiments,
• 26:45
  I mean, it's heavily documented that doctor Hwan Cameron Miguel University in Canada,
• 26:52
  who was a mk Ultra contractor. He was being funded by the Cian
• 26:57
  and he could do race people's memories through torturous methods. He would drug the
• 27:03
  patient, he would electro shock them a sleep deprivation, prolonged sleep through the
• 27:10
  use of other drugs like benzo diazepem and a whole host of other barbituate sleep
• 27:17
  aids, and then he would implant new memories so we'd erase the person's thoughts
• 27:25
  and memories and who they thought that they were through a process that was called
• 27:29
  depattering. That just I just listed to things that were done in that deep
• 27:33
  patterning process. And then he would do something that's called psychic driving, where
• 27:40
  he would go in and the official terminology of what psychic driving is, which
• 27:47
  it could be a bunch of different things, when we'll tell you the official
• 27:49
  one is that they would put in a looped audio message, so they would
• 27:53
  have like a tape recorder. After the subject had been depatterned, they were
• 28:00
  taking a tape recorder and with a looped audio message. Anything could have been
• 28:06
  on the looped audio message. It could have been you were in a secret
• 28:08
  space program fighting aliens in space for twenty years, you got injured, and
• 28:14
  you had all this high technology of doing all this stuff, which I think
• 28:18
  is the very rudimentary thing of what Sheen is talking about now with the programs.
• 28:26
  It's a very rudimentary way of doing it. That's how it was done
• 28:30
  in the beginning, was like with a taped audio message to implant thoughts and
• 28:36
  ideas and beliefs into the subjects. Had to get them to believe in something
• 28:40
  that didn't even happen, So you completely erase their identity, and then you
• 28:44
  put a new identity directly into their head. And now you can just you
• 28:49
  know, take that and replace it with a TV screen. It's no longer
• 28:55
  a tape recorder. Now it's a TV screen, so now they're getting a
• 28:57
  visual and an audio message. So that's just uh, you know, putting
• 29:03
  it into their head even more. And then you get a device that goes
• 29:07
  over their head, and then you also have the screen, so then you're
• 29:12
  getting it double even more, and then it turns into some sort of VR
• 29:15
  simulated. Virtual reality is the most high tech version of the process that really
• 29:23
  slams into the person's psyche all of these false memories and these that's completely false
• 29:30
  reality identity that is just driven into their head at enormous levels because they believe
• 29:41
  that it's real. And we get the Montreal experiments and things like that thrown
• 29:45
  under the bus, just like with the Nazi scientist example, so that people
• 29:49
  are like, oh, well, we found out about it, they stopped
• 29:52
  doing it. They wouldn't be doing that to all of us, now,
• 29:55
  would they, right, Which is where we're at now, is they threw
• 29:59
  all that experimentation. I've been saying for a while, like I started to
• 30:03
  notice it in around twenty eighteen and really get bad at twenty twenty. But
• 30:07
  they've been mk all cheering the public and they're doing a great job of it.
• 30:11
  It's working which I'm sure we'll get into too well. I mean that
• 30:15
  was just important for me to say because there is sheen. He kind of
• 30:22
  jumps to the to the end with the VR and the whole technology aspect,
• 30:27
  but there's there's a whole evolution of it. And the evolution of it started
• 30:33
  with these mk Ultra programs that were being done in Canada, being done in
• 30:37
  the United States, being done at universities. I mean whole wings of hospitals
• 30:41
  were open to do these run these experimentations on these people. In Another misnomer
• 30:48
  is that it was just all LSD. It wasn't all just LSD. There
• 30:52
  was reportedly at least one hundred and fifty drugs that was being tested on these
• 31:00
  patients. And Sidney Gottlieb, which was the face of the Chao Altri programs
• 31:06
  in the United States before it was supposedly shut down, had a brother and
• 31:10
  his brother's name was David Gottlieb, and he was a plant biologist. Why
• 31:15
  has nobody looked into that. You got a guy that's ahead of the CIA
• 31:18
  that is doing all this experimentation on all these people using all these different substances,
• 31:23
  normally CIA designer drugs and his brother is a plant biologist. That is
• 31:30
  interesting. The psychology I was pointing to is like what writers said about the
• 31:36
  evolution. They threw it under the bus early right, like at maybe at
• 31:40
  the TV screens like clockwork orange style is where they kind of threw it under
• 31:42
  the bus. They never mentioned, you know, everything that followed that,
• 31:47
  which has been progressive and does get to like the type of technology that they're
• 31:52
  talking about having now right, Like once again, it didn't come out of
• 31:55
  nowhere, but I'll let you continue. No, no, no, man,
• 31:59
  that's that was That was no, And that's that's useful information. I
• 32:01
  think it really brings to light you know, the where why. I mean,
• 32:06
  I've talked about how we have to have discernment with everything at this point,
• 32:09
  you know, we have to really truly I mean and at least in
• 32:14
  my eyes, that's part of being a sovereign human being is to to have
• 32:19
  this discernment. But it seems like now, you know, getting on to
• 32:22
  the next talking point, that all discernment has has has fallen out the window
• 32:27
  when it comes to this community. Man, it's it's like we cannot be
• 32:30
  honest anymore, we cannot be objective anymore, and you know, and when
• 32:37
  we try to bring what we feel is actual, true, objective information to
• 32:43
  the table, we're chastised for it. And you know, it seems like
• 32:46
  you know, of course, I'm sure you guys can attest this was this
• 32:51
  was all done by design. But is there also a human nature component to
• 32:53
  this too? Because when we see, you know, when you get a
• 32:57
  lot of I'm gonna use a polite word, not to bright people in a
• 33:00
  large group, you know what I mean, a lot of interesting things start
• 33:06
  to go down, and I think my mentality and group things starts to showcase
• 33:10
  itself. So I mean, I mean, what is your your your thoughts
• 33:15
  on this writer, because this is something that we talk about a lot.
• 33:17
  It's like you cannot be honest in this community and you cannot be objective in
• 33:22
  this community anymore. You really can't. And that's the issue is you you
• 33:28
  know that you're really onto something when you're just getting attacked and like trolled like
• 33:37
  all the time, you know what I mean, Like that's just like a
• 33:38
  part of it. You know, you're hitting a nerve with people. Now,
• 33:43
  that doesn't mean that everything that you're seeing is one hundred percent truth,
• 33:45
  because nobody has one hundred percent truth. You know, at a lot of
• 33:50
  times people are talking about a little bit of speculation stuff, which is also
• 33:55
  important, but it's also important to say, oh, well, this is
• 34:00
  just speculation, this is this is theorizing, this is something that can't be
• 34:06
  proven, because if you don't, then you're just contributing to the deception and
• 34:12
  the miss and the disinformation that is already out there. It's like what Bill
• 34:15
  Moore was talking about that had just covered in this five hour long lecture that
• 34:22
  he was giving to the move On conference in nineteen eighty nine. I mean,
• 34:25
  he is telling he's laying it all out there. He's like, this
• 34:29
  is all not this bullshit nonsense. If you take strip away the fluff,
• 34:34
  you basically just have the Paul Benowitz case. And we know what was going
• 34:37
  on with the Paul Bennowitz case, and it was an unbelievable thing. And
• 34:40
  he hit so many good points in that discussion in that lecture, and people
• 34:46
  hated it. They hated it. They booed him, they did not like
• 34:52
  it. They wanted him off of the stage. At one point, they
• 34:54
  were turning off the lights on Bill Moore to tell him to get off of
• 34:59
  the stage and people were like booing, and then they had to get the
• 35:01
  runner of the conference to come up there and be like, I'm very disappointed
• 35:05
  in some people in this crowd right now, you know, and then letting
• 35:08
  them continue. But then they just start turning off the lights. And that's
• 35:12
  just like part of the course here. When you strip away a lot of
• 35:15
  the nonsense and a lot of the garbage and a lot of the deception and
• 35:21
  you get down to the root of it. People don't want to hear it
• 35:27
  because it's like a you know, like an awakening that people talk about within
• 35:31
  the spiritual community where they feel like that they've been lied to their entire life.
• 35:37
  Well, it's like realizing that you've been lied to your entire life,
• 35:42
  thinking that you have that you know more things and know more about the way
• 35:45
  that the reality works, and then getting hit with a sledgehammer over your head
• 35:50
  and then realizing that those years that you spent trying to figure out things is
• 35:54
  also a lie. It's a lie within a lie. And they don't want
• 36:00
  to go through that process again because if they did, then this community would
• 36:07
  kind of just cease to exist, It would no longer exist, and people,
• 36:13
  no one would be able to make money off of the community anymore,
• 36:15
  no one would be able to go to these conferences and talk about these wacky
• 36:21
  space adventures and extraterrestrials and aliens. That means that that is all over and
• 36:28
  they don't want that. They have to hang on to that because they've built
• 36:30
  their entire personality and their entire life around this narrative. And if people don't
• 36:37
  believe that, they can they can believe whatever they want, but they have
• 36:42
  a lot of these top speakers in the community have built their entire life and
• 36:45
  their foundation, especially people within the Secret Space Program and the Super Soldiers.
• 36:50
  That's like all that they have, and it's just it's just a coincidence.
• 36:54
  And this isn't me talking bad about anyone. I've I've struggled by entire life.
• 37:00
  I mean, I was not born into a rich family. I was
• 37:02
  not born into anything. I was moderately poor. But it's just interesting that
• 37:12
  all of the people within the Secret Space Program and the Super Soldier people are
• 37:16
  dirt poor. They're living off of food stamps, which just again there's nothing
• 37:22
  wrong. I've been on the foodstamps before in my life. Okay, I
• 37:25
  get it, I understand it, but it's another level when they're trying to
• 37:31
  create something that's going to give them a platform in order to make something of
• 37:37
  themselves and of their life, when it's based on a lie and it's based
• 37:39
  on a fallacy to try and prop themselves up. They're trying to give them
• 37:43
  an audience when there's so many different topics out there to discuss other than but
• 37:47
  they just double down on the secret Space Program, super Soldier narrative, you
• 37:52
  know, hoping for some kind of phrase, hoping for something to boost them
• 37:58
  up out of the It's just a grift. It's a giant grift. You
• 38:02
  know. It's like, well, why don't you go back and look into
• 38:07
  the occult like study the occult study serial killers. Do whatever you can.
• 38:12
  There's a lot of other communities that you can get your foot in the door
• 38:15
  and other than repeating nonsensical garbage that has no basis in reality. I'm with
• 38:22
  you on that, man. I think, I think, you know,
• 38:24
  I mean, we see the profiteering and the grifting, you know, constantly,
• 38:29
  you know, especially with the fearmongerers, the doomsday individuals. There's one
• 38:35
  offhand that I give a lot of shit. I'm not going to name names.
• 38:38
  But you know, it's funny how he's he's constantly trying to get us
• 38:43
  ready for this cataclysm that's supposed to occur in the year twenty forty when the
• 38:47
  Sun's supposed to burp in micro nova at the Earth. But he's really getting
• 38:52
  people back into the bipartisan system. He wants you to vote Republican while he's
• 38:58
  while he's preaching the h you know, the doomsday cult on top of that.
• 39:01
  So I'm with you, man, I see the griff Shane. What's
• 39:04
  your what's your response on that? Oh? Man, I think I forgot
• 39:07
  the question at this point. It sounds all good. Run, No,
• 39:16
  it's all good. So I mean here, we'll start off with you do
• 39:20
  on this, man, So let's talk about the you know, because this
• 39:22
  is something we've we've talked about a lot. Let's talk about the Trump Biden
• 39:25
  thing that's currently at play right now. Do you think I mean, and
• 39:30
  I'm sure you could probably answer this is is this a form of MK ultra
• 39:34
  that's going on with these with these two candidates, and and if it is,
• 39:37
  would you please elaborate so the viewers can understand this because I feel like
• 39:42
  this is something i've been trying to say for quite some time and nobody wants
• 39:45
  to hear it. This is actually it will help me because I can answer
• 39:49
  the last question too, like I've been kind of doing this for a long
• 39:52
  time, and you know, I have a story that doesn't have any verifiable
• 39:55
  proof for people like I can't you know, sit you down and be like,
• 39:59
  this is why I know it. And but I don't rely on just
• 40:02
  that to speak because I can still see the rest of the world and make
• 40:07
  sense of it. Right. And but going all the way back, one
• 40:12
  of the first things before anyone had ever seen my face, and I thought
• 40:15
  that that would never happen. Someone's like, well, if you know so
• 40:16
  much, tell us something that we don't know. And I'm like, Donald
• 40:20
  Trump will be your next president. It's going to change everything and things will
• 40:23
  never be the same again. And I elaborated to go on about how like
• 40:28
  basically, if you will accept that manage your president, they know they can
• 40:30
  do whatever they want to you, and you know they're going to give you
• 40:35
  that first four years to see if you finally stand up and say what the
• 40:39
  and if you don't, then they're going to continue to be even more absurd.
• 40:45
  So what happened four years later, they put a corpse in his place.
• 40:49
  Right when I was watching that most recent debate, I was like,
• 40:54
  oh my goodness, Like they really are just it's almost like they're just performing
• 41:00
  a humiliation ritual on you, all right, and that's that. It's like,
• 41:06
  I mean, they're literally abusing an old man on television. They're literally
• 41:09
  propping up a caricature of a human being on television, and they're making you
• 41:15
  vote for these two clowns, like or one of these two clowns. It's
• 41:19
  the most ridiculous thing. And the insane culture cult worship on either side from
• 41:25
  both sides both Like when I say cult worship, it's hate and the love.
• 41:30
  You know, this is the tweet. I forget who actually said it,
• 41:34
  but it sounds something like, please God give me the Trump that the
• 41:37
  leftists have created in their delusional minds. I don't remember who said it,
• 41:43
  but I saw the tweet. I know what you're talking about that I would
• 41:45
  repeat that, but like or the Trump that the right wing has created in
• 41:49
  their delusional minds, because neither one of those two Trumps exist for real.
• 41:52
  Right, what we're actually dealing with is barely a human being. And I'm
• 41:57
  not saying like he's possessed by some I'm saying that he's basically a cartoon,
• 42:02
  like a living cartoon, Like there's not anything real there. He's just gonna
• 42:07
  do what he has to do in order to be that caricature, right,
• 42:13
  And so the worship on both sides, the fear of him is ridiculous.
• 42:16
  The I thought that he's gonna somehow save you. Did you guys forget the
• 42:20
  first four years? And that he's gonna kill us? Did you guys forget
• 42:23
  the first four years? It's like there's like either side, they're both absolutely
• 42:29
  out to lunch. And I honestly didn't think they'd ever get this far,
• 42:31
  Like I didn't think that people would get this far gone with all of this
• 42:37
  stuff. But that is how absurd it is. Is it's crazy making,
• 42:40
  right, Like we hear about that expression when it comes from narcissists, but
• 42:45
  that scales up to sociopaths and even further to psycho pass Crazy making is their
• 42:49
  game, and that's exactly what they've done to the public. And I like
• 42:54
  because I never believed that they would pull this off. To see how stunningly
• 43:00
  they have it's mind blowing me and I agree. Yeah, I agree,
• 43:06
  dude, I totally agree. I'm with you. I didn't I personally didn't
• 43:10
  think it was going to get this far. But you know, the one
• 43:13
  thing they always said, you know for a while now is even the most
• 43:15
  seasoned of us would be surprised at, you know, at what happens.
• 43:21
  And you know, there's I'll tell you at this point, there's no shortage
• 43:23
  of surprises when it comes to what's happening here. I'll tell you that,
• 43:29
  writer, what are your thoughts on that? Man, do you think that
• 43:31
  this is which is some kind of mk ultra like hypnosis, that's that's almost
• 43:38
  kind of hypnotizing the masses into this cult, Like Shame was saying, this
• 43:44
  cult following like losing their focus on what's really important and just drawing their focus
• 43:49
  onto these individuals. Well, I just think that it's interesting that they really
• 43:53
  haven't built anybody else up on the Democratic side. There is no body else,
• 44:00
  because as soon as the debates were over, everyone was like, they're
• 44:04
  gonna replace Boden, They're gonna switch them out in there with Kamala Harris is
• 44:07
  gonna be up there, or Michelle Obama. She's gonna swap in for Biden.
• 44:12
  I'm like, no, they're not. But one, we got four
• 44:15
  months until the freaking election. Are you kidding me? They you know how
• 44:19
  long Trump has been campaigning. He's been campaigning basically since he lost the election
• 44:23
  in twenty twenty. That's how long he's been campaigning for presidency. You're telling
• 44:29
  me that they're gonna bring somebody else in and they're gonna fit almost four years
• 44:35
  of campaigning into four months. Are you out of your mind? That's not
• 44:39
  going to happen. And if it does, it just shows you how ridiculous
• 44:43
  of a country that we live in that the leaders at the top really think
• 44:49
  that somebody that has only been running for president for four months can beat somebody
• 44:54
  that's been running for four years and that was president before, you know.
• 45:00
  So that's a really big error on people's And that's another thing within the community.
• 45:07
  Everyone's immediate like, oh, they got to they got to have Biden
• 45:09
  stepped down, blah blah blah blah. And that really actually influenced the mainstream
• 45:15
  media because the mainstream media is also talking about it, and I don't think
• 45:20
  that they would have if all the big popular alternative media people were talking about
• 45:24
  it, they would have just kept on. They would have cut it all
• 45:27
  up, cut the the big it up into a way that people can not
• 45:31
  see the mental cognitivity of Biden, to kind of brush it off and run
• 45:39
  little bits and little segments on how Biden is so great. So I really
• 45:45
  think that that was an influence from the alternative community that actually influenced the mainstream
• 45:51
  media in that narrative. But when it comes to Biden, he's obviously he
• 45:54
  has zero. Well, before we get into that, I want to talk
• 45:58
  about this twenty twenty five document, the stupid twenty five bullshit document that everyone's
• 46:05
  been uh, you know, talking about that freaking Stephen King has been retweeting
• 46:10
  that all the show him. I can't, I cannot stand. I'm sorry,
• 46:16
  guys. All right, it's really a policy proposal of it's I think
• 46:22
  it's like around one thousand pages, uh, for an incoming Republican, which
• 46:30
  that incoming Republican is supposedly is supposedly going to be Trump right now. A
• 46:35
  section of it does talk about like abortion, like uh, like three sentences
• 46:39
  out of the thousand pages or whatever, and everyone's calling it like a document
• 46:45
  of hate, like it's it's Nazi Germany document, you know, and it's
• 46:51
  uh, but it deals with a lot of things. It deals with the
• 46:53
  you know, finances, the culture, to the Republicans, to the Democrats,
• 47:01
  and the Democrats really hate it because they've they've I was at the gym
• 47:07
  yesterday and see obviously CNN and MSNBC is on the TVs at the gym,
• 47:15
  and it's set under project Operation Project twenty twenty five to over just to stock
• 47:23
  the Supreme Court justices, to overrule the Supreme Court justice and what the fu.
• 47:29
  But everything is just an agenda. Now, you got agenda, Agenda
• 47:32
  twenty twenty five, you got Agenda twenty thirty. It's like they're just put
• 47:37
  it's a it's an alternative. It's it's just the way that the alternative community
• 47:43
  has bled through into the mainstream community. But this twenty twenty five thing has
• 47:50
  nothing to do with Donald Trump. It's not a policy. It's yeah,
• 47:57
  it doesn't have anything to do with their it's it's not even a policy for
• 48:00
  an incoming president or even the Republican Party, right, and they do it
• 48:07
  every four years, So it is you know, like once again looking at
• 48:12
  the foundation, it's not Trump's thing. It's the Heritage Foundation. So let's
• 48:15
  look at them. They've existed for a long time. They've done the same
• 48:19
  thing over and over and over again. Nothing's ever come from it because nobody
• 48:22
  takes them seriously because they produce trash like that, right, But like the
• 48:28
  media running with it like that is just just beautiful because it's like I've been
• 48:32
  saying and with the alternative community for a long time, that we have a
• 48:36
  comprehension problem that most people aren't comprehending what they're hearing. They're really just hearing
• 48:42
  the big sexy story. They're not really comprehending what's going on. And that's
• 48:45
  the same thing with that. It's like anyone who just reads it can comprehend
• 48:52
  this is a nothing burger, but people who don't know how to read that
• 48:55
  can't. Right. It's very much like you know, it's not that I've
• 49:00
  never trusted scientists. I just know that a lot of them lie. And
• 49:04
  I know how to read science, right, But if you don't know how
• 49:07
  to read science, then you have to rely. And it's the same thing
• 49:09
  with politics. If you don't know how to read newspapers, then you don't
• 49:14
  understand, right. And what has been baffling me, is the people on
• 49:20
  the left freaking out about the fact that they're no longer allowed to break their
• 49:22
  own laws, that their own Supreme Court justice has decided that they have to
• 49:30
  follow the law their own constitution, and somehow that's a problem, and that
• 49:35
  guy is going to be a fascist, Like I don't understand. It's like
• 49:39
  it's one of the most narcissistic Like I know you are, but one am
• 49:43
  I things I've ever seen. Like you guys literally have spent the last four
• 49:45
  years breaking every law under the sun that you possibly can, im bending the
• 49:50
  ones that you can't, all for your own political gain, And now you
• 49:53
  want me to worry that that guy's going to come in and do the same
• 49:57
  thing you guys are already doing. Like it's just I don't know what I'm
• 50:02
  supposed to be scared of. It is gas lighting at its finest. That's
• 50:07
  gas lighting right there. I call it. I call it the five year
• 50:10
  old mentality. It's like a five year old kid on the playground where they're
• 50:14
  with their friends, Like like me and my friends can do it, but
• 50:17
  you can't, okay, Like that's that's it's literally what it sounds like to
• 50:22
  me. I mean, we've all been there when we were younger. We
• 50:24
  were the kid who was like, I can do it, but you can't.
• 50:28
  And that's I mean, that's basically what it is. It's like we're
• 50:30
  looking at a collective that is like adorned this child like mentality like throughout like
• 50:37
  this, this whole whole situation, and it is it's almost as if like
• 50:43
  the the and my theory behind it is it's because what they do is they
• 50:46
  they're consistently hitting the very deep emotional triggers of the collective with all of this
• 50:54
  stuff. And this is why this has happened, because you know, when
• 50:58
  you when you push another buttons like that, you're gonna have people throw any
• 51:02
  common sense and rational thinking out of the window, and you're gonna have people
• 51:07
  just acting like a whole bunch of children, just emotionally immature children. But
• 51:13
  you know, one thing I want to ask you to you know, since
• 51:15
  we're talking about this, this has been a huge thing that's been going around
• 51:20
  and I've kind of theorized myself, do you feel that some of the top
• 51:24
  people in the alternative media community are potentially instilled there to do what they're doing.
• 51:32
  Are they potentially some kind of actors of some kind, or are they
• 51:37
  instilled to keep the diversion of everything going on and everybody chasing their tails?
• 51:45
  I mean, what do you think about that? I think it's a Devil's
• 51:49
  Advocate quote of I just set the stage, you pull your own strings.
• 51:53
  I like that. Yeah, I think that's what has happened. It's what
• 51:57
  I've been saying about whistleblowers since Corey Good was that, like, they don't
• 52:01
  need to put disinformation agents in there anymore, they don't need to mind control
• 52:05
  these people directly, because we have people who are just going to come along
• 52:08
  and do it themselves right and play those roles. And ever since I said
• 52:14
  that, we've had a parade of them, right, Like I have a
• 52:17
  pretty public debate with one that that I know writer knows too, and like,
• 52:22
  you know, this is what we've had ever since I said that,
• 52:23
  Because that's that's and that's it, I think. And the same thing is
• 52:27
  true for even like a Joe Rogan, Like I don't think that he needs
• 52:30
  a CIA handler sitting beside him telling him what to do. I think Joe
• 52:35
  Rogan's personality just fills in all of that hole for him, right, And
• 52:37
  I think the same thing with like a canvass Owns or a Tucker Carlson or
• 52:42
  a whatever those the Twin Cradssteen boys are and like all these different other people
• 52:47
  on the left as well, Like, I don't think that they need to
• 52:51
  actually puppet these people because what you said was true. They started hitting everybody
• 52:55
  here, right, And when we're really activated here, we don't use this
• 53:00
  at all. It's why in ocult you're always going to jump bump into the
• 53:05
  trivia method is because that's part of the mystery schools. It's almost the foundation
• 53:07
  of them is to keep that in order of thought, feeling, action,
• 53:10
  because when your feelings are in the way, you don't think properly. When
• 53:14
  your feelings activated, all you're hearing is beep. And the only thing make
• 53:19
  that deep go away is Donald Trump or Joe Biden, whichever when you prefer,
• 53:23
  right, it's the only thing because that's here, right. But while
• 53:28
  that's happening, we're not using this, and that's why they're being able to
• 53:30
  fill this for us. And our actions follow here though, right, So
• 53:36
  this is all activated, we're not listening, we're throwing hands up in the
• 53:38
  air. They get to fill this and then the trickle down ends up being
• 53:43
  the actions that they want us to take. And so it's playing on human
• 53:47
  nature and perverting the reward system so that people just do it themselves. And
• 53:53
  I'm sure writer can speak to that, because we see a ton of it
• 53:55
  in this community, right with like just the individuals like I don't believe for
• 54:00
  one second that I don't know, I don't really like individual like James Rink
• 54:06
  is being controlled by any type of handle or I think he's just a desperate
• 54:08
  man who doesn't have any identity outside of being a fake super soldier on the
• 54:14
  internet. Right, Like if Shane the Ruiner went away tomorrow, I'm fine.
• 54:17
  You know, I've walked away from this community for up to two years
• 54:21
  at a time, and I was perfectly fine. But these people can't say
• 54:25
  that. I've even challenged them. Won't you step away for six months?
• 54:29
  I dare you? And they won't do it right, And it's because they
• 54:31
  can't for that reason, and that's why they don't need to remote mind control
• 54:37
  us or send the CIA in unless we're gigantic and really getting out of line.
• 54:42
  Maybe, but at this point in time, there's too many different voices
• 54:45
  already that you don't really need to do that because even if Candice Owns starts
• 54:50
  running around saying that Bridget mccuran's a woman or a man. Sorry, Like
• 54:53
  you know, it's easy enough for people to just tune that out. And
• 54:59
  the one thing I want to sy that you summed up before we get the
• 55:00
  writer or no, You're absolutely right. We do do it to ourselves.
• 55:04
  And that was you know, one of the biggest things in twenty twenty,
• 55:07
  you know, with the koof and everything that was going on with that,
• 55:13
  they didn't have to police anything. Our own people policed each other. So
• 55:20
  like this is a good analogy for you know what you're talking about, Shane.
• 55:23
  We do it to ourselves. We can make ourselves crazy, we can
• 55:27
  police each other. I totally agree with that, right, what are your
• 55:30
  thoughts? Then? It's just so interesting to me that they play both sides
• 55:37
  of the aisle, and that's what they've been doing for a really long time.
• 55:40
  They fund and they control both sides. They are the creators of the
• 55:49
  miss and disinformation and the deception, while on the other hand saying that we
• 55:54
  need to stop miss and disinformation and deception, right, playing both ends of
• 56:00
  it, and I have it's just like that Vice article. Then I just
• 56:04
  posted about the other day on Twitter, and I showed on my show with
• 56:07
  Dana yesterday saying that you know, uh, scientists are saying that if you
• 56:17
  research and you look into things, then that leads to conspiracy theorizing. Like,
• 56:24
  okay, well what is involved in research? Researching just means that you're
• 56:30
  reading. So they're saying that if you're reading, then you're a conspiracy theorist.
• 56:37
  Well, how did they come to that conclusion? How did those scientists
• 56:39
  come to that conclusion that they had to have read some stuff? Right?
• 56:45
  Super, we just broke the matrix, just shoving the dolarge off the page.
• 57:02
  I have a clip though from Barack Obama that I haven't the thing here
• 57:07
  that I want to everyone to listen to understand. It's not necessary for people
• 57:10
  to believe you tell you tell you tell me when you want me to hit
• 57:14
  it real quick man. Sorry about that. All good. I played this
• 57:16
  machine. I played it with Andy a couple of weeks ago, and I
• 57:20
  think that it's just the best, uh encompassing nature of everything that we've really
• 57:28
  been talking about here, and we can expand on it afterwards. But this
• 57:30
  just lays it all out there like perfectly, an amazing conspiracy burrito, an
• 57:37
  amazing cult burrito. Sorry, And where he's saying this speech is important too
• 57:42
  because it's a cyber policy center, right, So it's about the Internet stuff,
• 57:46
  it's about social media, it's about what we do. So we go,
• 57:52
  let's roll on it. Understand, it's not necessary for people to believe
• 57:58
  this information. In order to weaken democratic institutions. You just have to flood
• 58:05
  a country's public square with enough raw sewage. You just have to raise enough
• 58:10
  questions, spread enough dirt, plant enough conspiracy theorizing that citizens no longer know
• 58:22
  what to believe. Once they lose trust in their leaders, in mainstream media,
• 58:30
  in political institutions, in each other, in the possibility of truth.
• 58:42
  The game's won there, it is. He just said it in the most
• 58:50
  perfectly elegant way. I mean, people can talk about Obama as much as
• 58:54
  they want, but man could speak. The man could get up there and
• 59:00
  given an amazing speech. He was very persistent system in the way that that
• 59:06
  he spoke. And it's wild that we transferred from that. It's kind of
• 59:14
  like what she was talking about from that to a reality TV star and then
• 59:19
  into a bumbling idiot that obviously has some a lot of mental problems and probably
• 59:25
  dementia and all Alzheimer's. On stage, I was gonna say, what does
• 59:32
  that he was? He squatted over and he looked like he was pooping and
• 59:36
  pooping during that kind of say answer. Well, before Trump, the Obama
• 59:42
  was a test too, because it was like, what happens if we put
• 59:45
  this guy who looks perfect and does all the wrong things? Does anybody notice
• 59:50
  right if he literally breaks every law that he could possibly break, he's literally
• 59:54
  killing your own citizens. He's you know, starting killing more people than But
• 59:59
  he looks good, he sounds great, right, all of that, So
• 1:00:02
  it's okay. And the important thing that he said there, and there's different
• 1:00:08
  directions that we're getting to this but not knowing what to believe, right,
• 1:00:15
  people tend to give up at that point in time and they just decide that
• 1:00:17
  they don't believe anything. And the other side that comes through the truth movement
• 1:00:22
  is that you can't possibly be sure of anything. There is no objective reality,
• 1:00:28
  right. Well, the end result is that that is the same that
• 1:00:30
  you don't really believe anything, and when you don't have conviction in anything,
• 1:00:36
  you act like you don't have conviction in anything, and then you can be
• 1:00:39
  very easily steered around by either side of this political puppet stream or the alternative
• 1:00:45
  community, public's public strings, or whichever, because why you can't know,
• 1:00:52
  right, You couldn't possibly know, but somebody must. So I'll just keep
• 1:00:57
  going where everybody else is going as long as I like this. It's the
• 1:01:00
  smell of that room. Yeah, that's exactly. But it's so interesting because
• 1:01:06
  Andy brought this up in our conversation. He said that that is exactly what
• 1:01:12
  Juri Bezmanov was talking about in nineteen eighty three, the KGB defector in nineteen
• 1:01:17
  eighty three. We almost gave that identical thing that Obama just said, Like
• 1:01:22
  all the things that we just heard Obama talk about, also what Juri Bezmanov
• 1:01:28
  said, and just a different kind of words back in nineteen eighty three.
• 1:01:32
  It's and I made a reel of it, and it's verbatim the exact same
• 1:01:37
  thing. Wasn't that interview on the news? Right? He was talking about
• 1:01:44
  how the you know, the KGP, the KGB doesn't spend as much money
• 1:01:49
  in espionage as the United States thinks it does. If they wanted to take
• 1:01:53
  down a country. This is how they would do it over generations, isn't
• 1:01:57
  that interview? Am I correct about the subversion of an entire country and the
• 1:02:02
  four steps to subvert a country destabilization, demoralization, crisis, and then normalization.
• 1:02:09
  And he's you know, your rebustment office Like hey, like, if
• 1:02:15
  you create enough confusion, then that makes it to where no one no longer
• 1:02:20
  knows what to believe. They don't trust anyone. They don't trust their friends,
• 1:02:23
  they don't trust their family, they don't trust their neighbor, they don't
• 1:02:28
  trust their institutions exactly themselves. That's a big fun. Yeah, sorry,
• 1:02:32
  that is a big one. No, I would completely agree with that.
• 1:02:35
  I think, I think, you know, I mean, I remember when
• 1:02:37
  I first saw that interview, probably like ten years ago at this point,
• 1:02:43
  you know, I I really saw it and it started to make sense in
• 1:02:46
  the aspect of what was going on, you know, in my younger years.
• 1:02:50
  But like I've told Rider before, you know, I fell for the
• 1:02:53
  New Age scam in the beginning. Luckily I wised up and after that and
• 1:03:00
  understood that it was a kind of a sham in and of itself. But
• 1:03:05
  no same thing man, that you could even see it applicable going on right
• 1:03:07
  now even in the alternative community, and you can see this kind of applicable
• 1:03:10
  to everything. And you know, I think, you know, kind of
• 1:03:15
  what we're hitting at here, guys again is like, you know, we
• 1:03:16
  we have to understand that there is foundational principles and what's going on as what
• 1:03:22
  Shane is saying for sure, and you know, we have to to know
• 1:03:25
  that we have to just use discernment and we and the biggest thing you guys
• 1:03:30
  talked about too is man just fucking reading the goddamn paperwork, like just just
• 1:03:35
  to read it, you know, Like I think, really, you know,
• 1:03:38
  I think, you know, it's kind of a vicious cycle too,
• 1:03:40
  because you know, if you look at the world today on how it's it's
• 1:03:45
  either it's either it's a double edged sword. I think, yes, there's
• 1:03:47
  there's uh, there's people, there's people taking advantage of it, but it's
• 1:03:51
  even us too. You know. It's like you look at our day to
• 1:03:52
  day lives where a lot of people are so swamped and busy, that's where
• 1:03:57
  they're going to get their information. They're going to get their information from a
• 1:04:00
  thirty second reel, you know, as opposed to looking up the actual document
• 1:04:03
  itself, and which pisses me off so much, Steven, it pisses me
• 1:04:08
  off so much. If that's the case, I'm with you because I'm a
• 1:04:11
  guy that two. I like to read things I don't like to just you
• 1:04:14
  know, I like to look at papers and things like that and actually read
• 1:04:15
  over stuff. I'm with you on that. It's just like people would rather
• 1:04:20
  like my short little reels, and my short little clips like do so much
• 1:04:26
  better than my normal show does on everything. Dude, Like I can post
• 1:04:33
  something on TikTok and get a thousand views in like five minutes, you know,
• 1:04:39
  and I'm struggling to get a thousand views on my regular shows. It's
• 1:04:46
  wild and I it like makes me want to just like stop doing it.
• 1:04:51
  But at the same time, I'm like, well, you know, as
• 1:04:55
  long as it's getting out there in some way, and maybe one or two
• 1:04:59
  of those people out of those thousands of people that has watched this minute clip,
• 1:05:04
  maybe one or two of them check out the full thing, you know,
• 1:05:10
  and that's worth it. I guess. It's just really frustrating and the
• 1:05:14
  way the platforms treat real solid information is ridiculous as well, they like,
• 1:05:24
  my stuff should be just blowing everything out of the water, but it just
• 1:05:28
  it doesn't. And that's really discouraging as well, you know, because I
• 1:05:31
  know that it's good and it's been proven that it's good. I mean,
• 1:05:34
  I have videos on TikTok that have like close to half a million views,
• 1:05:41
  you know, and I know the things that I put out as quality,
• 1:05:44
  and I know that it's really good, but they it just does not want
• 1:05:46
  to be pushed because it's lumped in with all this nonsense, garbage, bullshit,
• 1:05:51
  you know what I mean. I feel you on that, man.
• 1:05:55
  And you know, I think, well, the one thing I've seen of
• 1:06:00
  these platforms do and I'm sure Shane can agree with me when I say this,
• 1:06:02
  they seem to pop up the the what I call the the limited hangouts,
• 1:06:09
  uh, the the sensationalists, you know, and the the fearmongers,
• 1:06:15
  and then just the individuals who are just really causing like a lot of hardcore
• 1:06:19
  division even further. So that's what it seems like to me. And and
• 1:06:24
  and I feel you on that, writer, because it sucks when you have
• 1:06:26
  somebody, I mean, you have a documentary and that's out on Amazon,
• 1:06:29
  you know, and Uh, you've put a lot of work into what you
• 1:06:32
  do, and uh, you know, I can understand your frustration behind that
• 1:06:36
  one hundred percent. But but Shane, let's let's hear it, hear your
• 1:06:40
  thoughts on this as well. I don't I've said it all already. No,
• 1:06:51
  no, no, you know we're going in circles because ultimately, people
• 1:06:56
  aren't really looking for the truth. They're looking for a big sexy story and
• 1:07:00
  they've woken up to go back to sleep in a different dream. And you
• 1:07:04
  know, from my whistle blower knowledge, the one thing that they told me
• 1:07:11
  over and over again was that they, like I didn't think that they could
• 1:07:14
  do this, but they kept saying that they would make people want it.
• 1:07:17
  And you know today that like every day that's just ringing in my ears is
• 1:07:23
  like almost their laughter, because it does sure as hell seem to me like
• 1:07:28
  people want it at this point in time, Like they don't want freedom,
• 1:07:32
  they don't want truth. They want a comfortable lie that they can disappear to
• 1:07:36
  the multiverse with. And that's all the problem. And ideology is very important,
• 1:07:45
  and you know, the ideology that the alternative community shares is the same
• 1:07:49
  ideology they fight against with the mainstream community, right, Like everything that most
• 1:07:56
  alternative community people will point to about the mainstream, they'll be like, this
• 1:07:59
  is wrong, this is wrong. You guys are doing the same thing.
• 1:08:01
  You're just doing it with a different flavor, kind of like I've said,
• 1:08:04
  like super Soldier Furry, explain to me the difference. In a lot of
• 1:08:11
  cases, there isn't one right and and that's it's sad to see. But
• 1:08:16
  at the same time, we you know, we can do better, and
• 1:08:19
  I know that we can. And you know, I've watched this community go
• 1:08:24
  through bad cycles before and will bounce back from this one too, just like
• 1:08:29
  humanity always will, and so will we. But for now, we should
• 1:08:33
  be trying to be more disciplined, trying to be more responsible with what we're
• 1:08:39
  doing here, because, like writer has said, we are the new media.
• 1:08:43
  Everybody, like even the audience is part of the new media. And
• 1:08:46
  you have a responsibility now. And if what you truly want is truth and
• 1:08:51
  what you truly want is change, then make sure your actions prove that to
• 1:08:56
  the world instead of just your words. That dude, and I think you're
• 1:09:00
  one hundred percent right on that. And the one thing I want to say
• 1:09:04
  is, you know, is the biggest thing we could be doing to change
• 1:09:08
  things is focusing on creating the existences that we truly wish and desire. That's
• 1:09:15
  one of the biggest things we can truly do to change things. And I'm
• 1:09:20
  with you on that too. It's almost as if, like you know,
• 1:09:23
  people wake up to go back to sleep in a different dream. It's not
• 1:09:28
  a it's almost as if, you know, I hear the laughter that you
• 1:09:32
  heard. Also, man, because I look at I look at this today,
• 1:09:35
  like right in front of me, and I'm just like, holy shit.
• 1:09:39
  Sometimes, like you know, I do realize the magnitude. I look
• 1:09:42
  at it and I'm like, this is this is one hell of a wall.
• 1:09:45
  It's gotten a little bit bigger. It's gotten a little bit bigger over
• 1:09:48
  the past few years, you know. So, but uh, and stop
• 1:09:51
  thinking that everything is a freaking signop. Everything's not a freaking sign up.
• 1:09:56
  Like things happen, like things naturally occur in our reality. It's like the
• 1:10:00
  conspiracy in the truth of community want to make it where nature just doesn't nature
• 1:10:03
  anymore. Nature still, Nature's nature has been naturing since the beginning of time.
• 1:10:09
  Okay, natural things happen, that's just the way that it is okay,
• 1:10:14
  and people are so freaking blackpilled to the point that they can't see anything
• 1:10:18
  but a freaking syop or some kind of controlled opposition, and that's why they
• 1:10:24
  attack each other. That's why they're always like this at each other all the
• 1:10:27
  time. Twenty four to seven. No one ever says, oh, hey,
• 1:10:30
  we should collaborate, we should like bring our minds together, we should
• 1:10:34
  come together on this and work together, and maybe we'll figure out something that
• 1:10:39
  we didn't know, maybe we can actually get to the bottom of this,
• 1:10:42
  maybe we can actually possibly change something. But instead, it's like we're just
• 1:10:45
  fighting with each other and butting heads against each other. No I'm right,
• 1:10:48
  No, you're right, No, i'm you're wrong. I'm right, I'm
• 1:10:51
  right, you're wrong. And it's like created this ridiculous type of back and
• 1:10:57
  forth within the community. And that's really the way that it's been for a
• 1:11:00
  really long time. And I believe that that's done on purpose, that is
• 1:11:06
  done for a reason, and it's it's just unbelievable the way that you see
• 1:11:13
  people treat each other within the community. I'm like, whose side are you
• 1:11:16
  on? Bro? Like, whose side are you really? And then they're
• 1:11:20
  so jealous of other individuals that are that are doing better than they are doing,
• 1:11:29
  which makes absolutely no sense. We should be lifting these people up.
• 1:11:31
  We should be sharing their content. We should be putting out their content.
• 1:11:34
  We should be liking their content. We should be reacting to it, we
• 1:11:38
  should be commenting on it with good and positive things, even if you don't
• 1:11:44
  agree with them. Like me and she and't have talked about several times,
• 1:11:46
  I listen to people all the time that I don't like or that I disagree
• 1:11:49
  with, because maybe somewhere and that I can get a different perspective, somewhere
• 1:11:55
  in that my mind could possibly be changed by what somebody else says that I
• 1:12:00
  hadn't thought about before. And this whole idea is that if you disagree with
• 1:12:04
  someone, that means that you hate them or that you don't like them.
• 1:12:08
  That is not the case. What happened is like civil debate, there's people
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  just like not debating anymore. And that's another thing that goes back to Trump.
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  Trump turned the ties on freaking debating. He just got up there and
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  just like insulted the ship out of Hillary Clinton, which yeah, yeah,
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  exactly. It's like that Family Guy episode where Lois is running for mayor or
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  whatever, and she just walks out there and says, nine eleven, that's
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  what it is. You changed the whole game. He turned it into an
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  internet chat room in a legitimate presidential debate. Well, and we changed the
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  timeline because don't you remember Smoky the Bear said only dudes can start forest fires.
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  In my timeline, bro, what timeline? In my timeline it was
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  Giuyetti. Smoking never existed. There was no stay. I'll tell you skets
• 1:13:15
  people get it right. But dude, writer, you hit a very good
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  point, man, because like that's what how I feel. I feel like
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  we're all comrades here. I really do, Like I feel like, you
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  know, you know, yeah, there's the same thing. There's there's people
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  that I don't one hundred I've had people on the show that I donte one
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  hundred percent agree with. I mean, there was a guy not too long
• 1:13:35
  ago. He was a great guy. It was a great conversation. Like,
• 1:13:38
  don't get me wrong, but like didn't a hundred percent agree with everything
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  you're saying. But I still have respect for him in the fact that he
• 1:13:45
  put this much work into this research, like you know, he he did.
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  He was very educated in what he was talking about. I mean he
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  did. He opened my eyes to some things that you know, I had
• 1:13:56
  to go back and reevaluate. And I think, I think that's true critical
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  thinking? Is it not? Like I mean, it's it's true critical thinking.
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  Isn't that what this community was supposed to be founded upon? Was critical
• 1:14:06
  thinking? And like common sense? Isn't that what this was originally supposed to
• 1:14:11
  be? But yet it's not now anymore. Anytime anything happens that seems set
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  tabit like anything on the world stage, like within the hour, dude,
• 1:14:19
  people are on it. They're like, oh no, it wasn't really that.
• 1:14:23
  It was it was freaking aliens. It was it was a mall alien.
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  I got a I got a video recording or someone sent me that was
• 1:14:29
  there when the the mall in Miami. They said that there were aliens.
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  There was twelve foot tall aliens that were outside. That's why all the cops
• 1:14:36
  were rolling up. It's I don't know, dude, It's just so wild
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  that it's that there's not any time in between any of the stuff that comes
• 1:14:48
  out within the community, Like there's no like looking into it anymore, there's
• 1:14:54
  no critical thinking behind it anymore. It's just like, how soon and how
• 1:14:58
  fast can we push out this content after something happens, And inevitably all those
• 1:15:03
  people that push out that content as soon as it happens are all wrong.
• 1:15:09
  They're all wrong every single time because they don't have all the information. All
• 1:15:13
  the information has not come out about it. If they would awaited a week
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  or maybe even a couple of days, they would realize that it was nothing
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  like that. But that's not the goal. That's not the point. It
• 1:15:24
  goes back to the confusion aspect of this whole thing, and you flood the
• 1:15:28
  Internet in the population with as much nonsense and garbage as possible, all out
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  at once, so it just confuses everybody on what to believe. The mean,
• 1:15:38
  the alternative community is the main extreme community for the people that don't believe
• 1:15:42
  in mainstream news and mainstream community. That's what it is due. And I
• 1:15:46
  remember the whole the whole mall alien. You know, we had a lot
• 1:15:49
  of different aliens last year. We had cake aliens, we had we had
• 1:15:54
  mollyds, we had Vegas aliens. You don't remember the Vegas aliens. No,
• 1:16:00
  I didn't even see. I know we had a plastic jug alien.
• 1:16:02
  Somebody thought of bleach bo bottle. Wasn't it that the duff was an alien
• 1:16:08
  skullar or nothing like that? But uh, it could have been a joke.
• 1:16:10
  But no, I did not hear about these Vegas aliens. Enlighten me.
• 1:16:13
  This is one I missed. Uh you didn't hear about the Vegas aliens,
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  dude, I don't think so. Man, Well, there's footage of
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  it. You might be able to look it up. I don't know.
• 1:16:21
  Uh, you just type in Vegas. Let me see. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:16:26
  yeah, yeah, it's got it's got awful footage. It looks like
• 1:16:29
  it was filmed off of a two thousand and one freaking flip phone razor.
• 1:16:33
  I could have filmed them. Wait a minute, let me let me see
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  it. So it was like, was it like two months ago? No,
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  it was. I think that it was in It was last year,
• 1:16:46
  all right. So it says it says the cops investigate alleged UFO crash and
• 1:16:50
  green colored aliens sighting in Las Vegas. I don't know if that's the one
• 1:16:56
  or not, but I'll definitely have to look it up. Man. But
• 1:17:00
  no, that's you know, I'm surprised that's slid by me. I don't
• 1:17:03
  know. Anyway, there was this aliens that apparently showed up in this family's
• 1:17:06
  backyard in Vegas, and the whole family was there and they all looked on
• 1:17:12
  like one person, the only one person that was videoing anything, was in
• 1:17:15
  the very back of the group. There was a fence in between them and
• 1:17:19
  this entity or whatever, and all you see is like what kind of looks
• 1:17:25
  like a outline of a man, and like that's it. But the footage
• 1:17:30
  is so freaking blurry and so distorted that it's hard to make out anything.
• 1:17:35
  Which is That's another thing that I've mentioned the machine several times and a lot
• 1:17:40
  of times on my show, is like, why is all of the footage
• 1:17:43
  of anything weird or anything strange or freaking big foot? Why is it all
• 1:17:48
  shitty footage? It is? It is like it's like it literally it's like
• 1:17:55
  the guy, the guy can't hold the camera straight for the life of him.
• 1:17:59
  You know, later I felt the aliots, They're right here on the
• 1:18:03
  screen in my room, a really clear view of them. I'm telling you,
• 1:18:11
  it's it's every You want to know what the only the only clear clear
• 1:18:15
  video I ever saw of something man I was actually I was watching with with
• 1:18:19
  my lady the other day that we've been watching the paranormal caught on camera just
• 1:18:25
  to kill time when we're hanging out in the evenings, and somebody actually got
• 1:18:28
  a bigfoot video that was not like they actually had like a clear I mean,
• 1:18:33
  it could have been it could have been a lot of different things.
• 1:18:35
  But but but but still, I'm with you, guys. Were you talking
• 1:18:38
  about the one in Colorado? Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was that
• 1:18:43
  was the one that they were showcasing. That one was really interesting me and
• 1:18:45
  show didn't mean Sheane did a whole show on it. That one was interesting
• 1:18:48
  because I mean, it could have been somebody in just the weird like honeying
• 1:18:53
  gear whatever. But the thing that I found interesting that I brought up in
• 1:18:57
  the video was that the creature or the entity or the person or whatever,
• 1:19:01
  he sat down like he was trying to blend in with the shrubbery, which
• 1:19:05
  I thought was really interesting. That's what you would probably do. That's what
• 1:19:09
  animals do, is they try and blend in with nature, and like whenever
• 1:19:14
  they're stalking a stocking something, they will try and blend in with the surroundings,
• 1:19:20
  the surrounding areas. So I thought that was gave a little bit more
• 1:19:25
  legitimacy to it. But those people are actually from Wyoming and their story seems
• 1:19:32
  to be legit. I don't know who knows. Man. You know.
• 1:19:36
  That's the one thing too, is it's like I think, I think,
• 1:19:39
  you know, because we're gonna start winding down the best thing that I can
• 1:19:43
  lead off with this man after this whole conversation tonight. You know, I
• 1:19:45
  got two very smart individuals sitting here who have done their research. They have
• 1:19:50
  looked at the things they have put in the work. Like I said,
• 1:19:53
  Writer, Writer has a documentary called JFKX on Amazon right now. Shane is
• 1:19:59
  a whistle blower and he actually, you have classes to teach people magic and
• 1:20:04
  other things correct as well, right I do? Yeah? And what I
• 1:20:09
  define magic, that's your relationship with yourself, your environment, and other people.
• 1:20:14
  It's not throwing fireballs exactly as actually you know. To tie it into
• 1:20:18
  the Secret Space Program, I put an and I'm doing introduction calls for free
• 1:20:23
  for the rest of the summer if anyone's interested, because usually it's sixty dollars
• 1:20:27
  for that introduction call. Because of Secret Space Program. People wanting to learn
• 1:20:30
  how to throw fireballs but it is I feel I feel you, guys.
• 1:20:36
  I got a question for you really quickly. Shane Ryan Burns was on my
• 1:20:41
  show the other day and he was talking about this thing that's called the Red
• 1:20:44
  Right, and he said that it kind of came out of Michael Achino and
• 1:20:50
  which Michael Achino started the Temple of Set And apparently Michael Achino was involved in
• 1:20:56
  this like ritual where he would essentially imbue his essence onto a pregnant lady that
• 1:21:05
  had the child has not been born yet, and he would do some kind
• 1:21:10
  of magic to like put his consciousness inside of the unborn baby. And then
• 1:21:15
  at some point I would be guessing pretty close to the pregnancy, he then
• 1:21:20
  kills himself and then commits suicide, but his consciousness is now inside of that
• 1:21:28
  unborn child. Have you ever heard of anything like that? I think there's
• 1:21:30
  a show that's very similar called Intruders. But yeah, there's a you know,
• 1:21:38
  not to say that it worked, but there's definitely a few Culls out
• 1:21:41
  there who believe they can do stuff like that, and it's up for debate
• 1:21:45
  whether or not it works, and it definitely doesn't work one hundred percent of
• 1:21:48
  the time. But yeah, it's a type of forced incarnation. It's possible,
• 1:21:54
  and it exists. Whether or not that gentleman actually was involved in it
• 1:21:57
  or had just heard about it or saw true is up for a bit as
• 1:22:01
  well. But yeah, there's a lot of weird ship. All right,
• 1:22:06
  I'm not gonna deny that's sorry for my language and your show. But there's
• 1:22:09
  a lot of weird stuff. There's truth in almost all of it, and
• 1:22:13
  but all that noise is what's drowning out the truth of it and the truth
• 1:22:19
  of it on both sides, whether it's our enemy or the powerful ones.
• 1:22:25
  The answer is human and that's why people don't like the answer. I can't
• 1:22:29
  understand that one hundred percent. And I like the way that you phrased that,
• 1:22:32
  because there is truth in this. It's not we're not It's not that
• 1:22:38
  you guys are coming up here and being like you know all of it.
• 1:22:42
  It's not true now that there's definitely very strange things that are that are happening.
• 1:22:47
  And and like I said, Shane, you put it really well that
• 1:22:50
  there's this noise that's this this background noise or this background mental noise or whatever
• 1:22:56
  we really want to call it. That's clouding out the discernment to look for
• 1:23:00
  that actual truth as opposed to just believing what's handed to us, you know,
• 1:23:05
  and TikTok videos and what's on you know, the x feed or things
• 1:23:11
  like that. So well, guys, let me tell you this, it
• 1:23:13
  was a real pleasure having you two on. It was great to have you
• 1:23:15
  both here at the same time. So I do have writer, I have
• 1:23:17
  your YouTube link and your Apple Podcasts link in the description. Shane, I
• 1:23:24
  have your YouTube link. But if you two want to announce where they can
• 1:23:29
  find you guys outside of that before we close out tonight, and so everybody
• 1:23:32
  can go and check out your stuff. You can find me on YouTube had
• 1:23:36
  Raised by Giants and you allodcast platforms at Rais by Giants, And check out
• 1:23:43
  my documentary jfk X on Amazon Prime if you're inside of the United States.
• 1:23:47
  If you're outside of the United States, check it out on Vimeo's up on
• 1:23:51
  Vimeo as well and on t B so you can watch it on two B.
• 1:23:56
  I think twob goes to a different a couple of different on trees and
• 1:24:00
  I am currently working on documentary number two, which is going to be amazing
• 1:24:05
  and blow everything out of the water, so really looking forward to that.
• 1:24:10
  Thanks for having me on, Steven, and thanks for being on here,
• 1:24:14
  Shane. Once in a lifetime podcast that we just did my friend and I
• 1:24:17
  very much enjoyed it. Been wanting to do one like this for a while
• 1:24:21
  and then she and I mean Stephen hit me up and was like, yeah,
• 1:24:25
  to do this bad boy, so very much enjoyed it. Thank you.
• 1:24:28
  Oh yeah man? How yeah? And Shane, where can everybody else
• 1:24:30
  find you? Aside from your YouTube channel? I know you're on all social
• 1:24:33
  media as well. If you do the link linked tree u r L after
• 1:24:40
  the slash Shane underscorees a door like it's written on the screen there. If
• 1:24:43
  they see that, but with an underscore between changes the store, you'll find
• 1:24:47
  out my links there. I don't really post to public YouTube anymore because of
• 1:24:51
  the community, and I know I have a paywall that's there more like a
• 1:24:58
  gatekeeper than a money making thing, because yeah, I don't really make a
• 1:25:02
  don of money off of it. I just don't want to have to answer
• 1:25:05
  everybody's absurd questions. I like to questions. I totally understand, man,
• 1:25:12
  I totally understand if you two want to stick around for just a second,
• 1:25:15
  guys, I want to thank you all for joining me for another bg Cast
• 1:25:19
  Wednesday live podcast. I think this was a very insightful conversation with writer Lee
• 1:25:25
  and Shane here. I think, really what this really says to us is
• 1:25:30
  we need to use discernment. I mean, this is something I hit home
• 1:25:32
  so much. Is discernment at all time high right now. Discernment is key
• 1:25:39
  and do not let the noise cloud out what is truly there for you to
• 1:25:44
  see. And that is really the best thing that I can leave you all
• 1:25:47
  with. Guys. I'll be back next week with Rafael. He's going to
• 1:25:50
  be coming on to discuss kind of a similar topic, some of the misinformation
• 1:25:57
  in the conspiracy community at this time, as well as some other occult stuff
• 1:26:00
  we're going to get into. And other than that, you guys, have
• 1:26:02
  yourself a wonderful night, Take care everybody, and thanks for joining us.