Latest / Dr Justin Coulson's Happy Families / #839 Mum Adventures & Potato Wars
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- 0:03Speaker 1: It's the Happy Families podcast. It's the podcast for the
- 0:07Speaker 1: time poor parent who just once answers Now before we
- 0:11Speaker 1: dive into our conversation today, Kylie's to sell out this weekend.
- 0:16Speaker 1: We're heading off to Adelaide for the Resilient Kids Conference,
- 0:20Speaker 1: the final one of the year. Something like six hundred
- 0:22Speaker 1: people all set to meet us in Modbury, Me, Maggie Dan,
- 0:26Speaker 1: Karen Young and the wonderful Michelle Mitchell talking about raising
- 0:30Speaker 1: resilient kids. And you're coming with me so that we
- 0:32Speaker 1: can talk resilience. If you're in Adelaide, we can't wait
- 0:35Speaker 1: to see you tomorrow. Now it's a Friday, which means
- 0:39Speaker 1: i'll do better. Tomorrow is on the menu, Kylie, I
- 0:43Speaker 1: think that you should start first. You've had some time
- 0:46Speaker 1: away and let me with the kids. You let me
- 0:49Speaker 1: look after all those children.
- 0:51Speaker 2: And all those children and work full.
- 0:53Speaker 1: Time and cook and clean and iron and run kids
- 0:57Speaker 1: too and from school and to and from extra career
- 1:00Speaker 1: for activities. You've been gone for a little over a week.
- 1:03Speaker 1: You've come home and.
- 1:03Speaker 2: Guess what the house is trash? For the house is.
- 1:07Speaker 1: Trash because we've decided that we don't have enough space,
- 1:10Speaker 1: and so we're losing our garage and turning it into
- 1:12Speaker 1: some rooms, so that's why it's trashed. Well, let's be real,
- 1:17Speaker 1: We're alive. That's what I was going to say. We're alive.
- 1:20Speaker 1: Everyone's happy, everyone's fed, everybody survived.
- 1:25Speaker 2: The reason we're running out of space is because we've
- 1:26Speaker 2: got a grand baby coming. Yeah. Yeah, So making room
- 1:30Speaker 2: for a grand baby.
- 1:31Speaker 1: Not that the grandchild is going to be living at
- 1:33Speaker 1: our house, no, but she's keeps you out of your
- 1:36Speaker 1: I've lost my office, so we need to take the
- 1:39Speaker 1: office home. Anyway, today, I'll do better tomorrow. Since you
- 1:42Speaker 1: have not had to do any parenting for ten days,
- 1:45Speaker 1: ten days, I don't know what you're going to talk about.
- 1:47Speaker 1: I'm very curious to know what you're going to say
- 1:50Speaker 1: that's going to help people know how you'll be a
- 1:51Speaker 1: better parent since you haven't been here.
- 1:54Speaker 2: So at the beginning of the year, I made some
- 1:56Speaker 2: pretty big goals about things that I want to do
- 2:00Speaker 2: in my life to kind of stretch myself, to get
- 2:03Speaker 2: outside my comfort zones and to kind of, I guess,
- 2:07Speaker 2: rewrite some kind of mental scripts that I've carried around
- 2:10Speaker 2: for a lot longer than I should have, and it
- 2:15Speaker 2: just got me thinking about how so many times the
- 2:18Speaker 2: thoughts that we have limit our ability to do and
- 2:23Speaker 2: be the person that we could and can be. So
- 2:27Speaker 2: for the last week, I've attended a conference. I caught
- 2:30Speaker 2: an aeroplane all by myself. I haven't done any of
- 2:33Speaker 2: these things.
- 2:34Speaker 1: Not just an aeroplane an international flight with transfers overseas
- 2:39Speaker 1: like it.
- 2:40Speaker 2: Was a big deal, And for about the week leading
- 2:42Speaker 2: up to it, I definitely was struggling with anxiety around it.
- 2:45Speaker 2: I was pretty nervous and pretty worked up about having
- 2:48Speaker 2: to do all of this. But after saying goodbye to you,
- 2:52Speaker 2: you dropped me off at the front door and I
- 2:54Speaker 2: had to walk in and navigate everything from scratch all
- 2:57Speaker 2: by myself. I had a little bit of a cross
- 3:00Speaker 2: and I went up to a lady and I asked
- 3:02Speaker 2: her what was the next step, and she actually did
- 3:05Speaker 2: everything for me. She was amazing, And from that moment
- 3:09Speaker 2: I was just blown away with how easy it was.
- 3:13Speaker 2: And yet I have spent so long thinking this was
- 3:16Speaker 2: going to be a really really big deal and it
- 3:17Speaker 2: was going to be this hard process and I was
- 3:19Speaker 2: going to get lost and I wouldn't know what to do,
- 3:22Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, I kind of realized that
- 3:25Speaker 2: it actually wasn't It was really easy, and I got
- 3:29Speaker 2: to the other end, and I thought, I've waited all
- 3:31Speaker 2: of this time to do this because I was too
- 3:35Speaker 2: scared to try. And as I've thought about all of
- 3:38Speaker 2: the other things that I've started doing, art classes and
- 3:41Speaker 2: things like that, the world that is opening up to
- 3:44Speaker 2: me now as a result of me being willing to
- 3:47Speaker 2: confront that there might be some thoughts that I have
- 3:51Speaker 2: that are limiting and stopping me from achieving things that
- 3:54Speaker 2: I could achieve if I would just be open to
- 3:57Speaker 2: new experiences. Is electrifying, Like it's so exciting. I spent
- 4:03Speaker 2: a week on campus. I was a student literally backpack
- 4:07Speaker 2: on my back the whole week, running from one end
- 4:09Speaker 2: of the campus to the other end of the campus.
- 4:11Speaker 2: I brought a whole heap of food to snack on
- 4:14Speaker 2: throughout the day because I didn't have time to have
- 4:16Speaker 2: a meal, like there was so much going on. I
- 4:18Speaker 2: only to realize I didn't have any cutlery, so I
- 4:21Speaker 2: was eating my yogurt with the handle of my toothbrush
- 4:25Speaker 2: because I didn't have a space. Look at you, and
- 4:32Speaker 2: I found myself interacting with people that I've never spoken
- 4:36Speaker 2: to before, but just just enveloped in this opportunity to
- 4:41Speaker 2: learn and to grow, and some of the things that
- 4:44Speaker 2: really stood out to me was just number one, the
- 4:47Speaker 2: things that I'm striving to do to open myself up
- 4:50Speaker 2: to new opportunities. I got confirmation throughout the week as
- 4:53Speaker 2: I went to different classes that I'm on the right track.
- 4:56Speaker 2: I'm doing the things that i need to to. Kind
- 4:58Speaker 2: of you, I have this amazing life. There's lots of
- 5:02Speaker 2: work to do, and there's definitely I brought home lots
- 5:05Speaker 2: of take homes of areas that I would like to
- 5:07Speaker 2: kind of continue to grow on. But I just thought
- 5:11Speaker 2: this idea that a thought is just a thought. It's
- 5:15Speaker 2: the emphasis we put on that thought that changes everything.
- 5:20Speaker 2: And if I can learn this now, hopefully I can
- 5:23Speaker 2: help our children to recognize and understand that their thoughts
- 5:29Speaker 2: literally are the first step to where they end up.
- 5:34Speaker 2: And if we can get that thoughts right from the beginning,
- 5:38Speaker 2: how different life will be if they can be open
- 5:40Speaker 2: to new opportunities and don't judge themselves harshly because they
- 5:45Speaker 2: don't get something right first go round, or you know,
- 5:49Speaker 2: feel afraid to fail. I think that's a huge one
- 5:53Speaker 2: for me. I've been so scared to fail. What that
- 5:55Speaker 2: would look like, what people would think of me if
- 5:57Speaker 2: I got things wrong, you know, and able to navigate
- 6:01Speaker 2: the airport, and just realize all I have to do
- 6:02Speaker 2: is ask a question. If I get stuck, people want
- 6:05Speaker 2: to help. Yeah they did, and they were They were amazing.
- 6:09Speaker 2: They didn't look at me and go, You're such an idiot.
- 6:11Speaker 2: Why are you asking that? It's so obvious, there's the
- 6:13Speaker 2: sign or whatever. They were just so ready to help.
- 6:16Speaker 1: But from a parenting point of view, this applies as well,
- 6:18Speaker 1: because our kids off and panic and think I can't
- 6:20Speaker 1: do it. It's too big. The challenges in front of me
- 6:22Speaker 1: is too much. And yet there are so many people
- 6:25Speaker 1: around who are so so ready to help if they
- 6:27Speaker 1: ever get stuck. And I think that it doesn't just
- 6:30Speaker 1: apply for mums who are having brand new adventures. I
- 6:33Speaker 1: think it applies for our kids.
- 6:34Speaker 2: As well totally. And I feel like I can be
- 6:37Speaker 2: a better parent because I'm navigating that space now.
- 6:41Speaker 1: So what does this mean for you? What does this
- 6:43Speaker 1: old do better tomorrow take home message?
- 6:46Speaker 2: I really think it's about helping our children recognize because
- 6:50Speaker 2: of the example we set that it's okay, number one,
- 6:54Speaker 2: to not have all the answers, That it's okay to
- 6:56Speaker 2: fail and get it wrong. That it's okay to try
- 6:58Speaker 2: something new, be so frustrated by it, but be open
- 7:02Speaker 2: to trying it again. Like it just it works into
- 7:05Speaker 2: every facet of our lives. That for me personally, it's
- 7:11Speaker 2: helping our kids recognize that their thoughts are so influential
- 7:18Speaker 2: on what the next step is for them.
- 7:24Speaker 1: Here's my question for you, as we transition into my
- 7:28Speaker 1: I'll do better tomorrow, at what point is the food
- 7:32Speaker 1: that's on the table no longer fair game. What I
- 7:37Speaker 1: mean by that is, let's say we're having a roast
- 7:39Speaker 1: dinner and all the food is laid out in the
- 7:42Speaker 1: middle of the table. We've got plates of meat and
- 7:45Speaker 1: potatoes and vegetables and the gravies there, all that sort
- 7:48Speaker 1: of stuff. If I take some food out of one
- 7:52Speaker 1: of the bowls in the middle of the table and
- 7:54Speaker 1: put that food onto my plate, is it safe for
- 7:57Speaker 1: me to assume that that food is now mine and
- 8:00Speaker 1: that nobody's going to touch it.
- 8:02Speaker 2: I feel like this is a bit of a loaded question.
- 8:04Speaker 2: I'm going to suggest that it should be saying.
- 8:06Speaker 1: It should be So what I really want to know
- 8:09Speaker 1: is at what point is it is it truly mine?
- 8:12Speaker 1: Does it need to be on my plate or does
- 8:13Speaker 1: it need to be on my fork? Or does it
- 8:15Speaker 1: actually have to be in my mouth?
- 8:16Speaker 2: I would say, based on where you're taking this conversation,
- 8:20Speaker 2: that it's probably need to be in your belly, for
- 8:22Speaker 2: it's technically yours. What happened while I was gone?
- 8:26Speaker 1: So I've cooked this roast. It was such a great
- 8:28Speaker 1: lamb roast, and we've got all the vegetables on the table.
- 8:31Speaker 1: We have one daughter who is, I don't know how
- 8:33Speaker 1: else to say it, a potato fiend.
- 8:35Speaker 2: I can't believe you're talking about this. I lived student life.
- 8:38Speaker 2: I was eating rations for days. We have telling me
- 8:43Speaker 2: about a roast inner.
- 8:44Speaker 1: It was so good. So here's the thing, this daughter
- 8:47Speaker 1: who loves potatoes. Somebody points out, oh, there's only one
- 8:51Speaker 1: potato left in the potato bowl. So we've got the
- 8:53Speaker 1: potato and sweet potato and the pumpkin. There there's still
- 8:55Speaker 1: a little of a sweet potato, but one potato left.
- 8:58Speaker 1: One roast potato, crispy on the outside, succulent, soft on
- 9:02Speaker 1: the inside, steaming, piping hot. One potato. We've already had
- 9:07Speaker 1: our first go round the table, and a couple of
- 9:09Speaker 1: them have probably had a little bit of extra as well.
- 9:11Speaker 1: And I see that potato in the bowl, and before
- 9:16Speaker 1: I can even react, our potato loving daughter has got
- 9:20Speaker 1: her fork and she is trying to stab that potato
- 9:23Speaker 1: in that bowl. But I'm thinking the potato is fair
- 9:25Speaker 1: game because it's in the bottle.
- 9:27Speaker 2: You started it, it wasn't her.
- 9:29Speaker 1: I didn't have time to pick up my fork. So
- 9:32Speaker 1: with my right hand, I'm trying to hold her hand
- 9:34Speaker 1: back that's got the fork in it. And with my
- 9:36Speaker 1: left hand, I've literally pushed my hand through the sweet potato,
- 9:40Speaker 1: through the pumpkin, and I've got my little fingers around
- 9:44Speaker 1: that perfect potato.
- 9:46Speaker 2: You would never have done that if I was home.
- 9:48Speaker 1: And I've pulled the potato out as she's doing everything
- 9:52Speaker 1: she can to get that fork into the potato, even
- 9:53Speaker 1: though it's in my hand. It's in my hand, it's
- 9:55Speaker 1: now in my possession. It can't be fair game anymore.
- 9:58Speaker 2: No.
- 9:58Speaker 1: Then, and then I put them, but you interfered regardless.
- 10:09Speaker 1: The potato is then placed by my hand onto my plate.
- 10:12Speaker 2: Well you asked for it, That's all I'm saying.
- 10:14Speaker 1: And as I pick up my fork to put it
- 10:17Speaker 1: in my potato so that I can eat it, she
- 10:20Speaker 1: reaches out, picks the potato up off my plate and
- 10:24Speaker 1: puts it in her mouth.
- 10:26Speaker 2: You asked for it, And I want.
- 10:28Speaker 1: To know is that fair or is that unfair? Because
- 10:33Speaker 1: I think she deserved every morese I expect a little
- 10:38Speaker 1: bit of support. And what are you saying that the
- 10:40Speaker 1: food has to be in your mouth? Otherwise it should
- 10:43Speaker 1: be on your plate.
- 10:44Speaker 2: But if somebody is going towards it and you physically
- 10:47Speaker 2: interfere and stop them, then it's not yours.
- 10:50Speaker 1: It's this I've had. This is actually kind of hard
- 10:52Speaker 1: for me to talk about, but I'm going to put
- 10:54Speaker 1: it out there anyway. I've had the best week. I've
- 10:56Speaker 1: missed you incredibly, and we need you in our lives.
- 11:01Speaker 2: But yes, my house, jeph Not says, I can't.
- 11:04Speaker 1: This is the builders and the renovators. You can't sort
- 11:06Speaker 1: of put me in. I did washing, I did ironing,
- 11:09Speaker 1: I did folding, I did cooking, I did cleaning. I
- 11:11Speaker 1: got the kids to school pretty much on time every day,
- 11:14Speaker 1: and I worked full time. I was brilliant. But what
- 11:18Speaker 1: I really struggle with is, I mean, I do a
- 11:21Speaker 1: lot of travel for work. Right I'm always on aeroplanes
- 11:24Speaker 1: and things, visiting places and teaching people how to make
- 11:26Speaker 1: their families happier. And for the last ten days or so,
- 11:29Speaker 1: I've had the opportunity to be at home and spend
- 11:33Speaker 1: that time with the kids.
- 11:34Speaker 2: And I remember when.
- 11:34Speaker 1: Covid here and we made that commitment, Oh, we're never
- 11:39Speaker 1: going to go back. We've got to be better than
- 11:41Speaker 1: we were. We can't be so busy. And I feel
- 11:43Speaker 1: like we're as busy, if not busy, than we've ever been.
- 11:45Speaker 1: And so many families that I talked to are the same.
- 11:48Speaker 1: It's Father's Day on Sunday, and I want to just
- 11:51Speaker 1: emphasize how badly kids need their dads. If dad's safe,
- 11:55Speaker 1: if dad can be around, even if you're co parenting.
- 11:57Speaker 1: I know that families have all kinds of different structures.
- 12:00Speaker 2: Now.
- 12:00Speaker 1: The kids need their dads, they really really do. And
- 12:03Speaker 1: the last ten days or so, while you've been gone,
- 12:06Speaker 1: it has just been so much fun to you know
- 12:09Speaker 1: how in last week's or the week before, when we
- 12:11Speaker 1: did all do better tomorrow and we talked about buying
- 12:13Speaker 1: Monopoly and playing Monopoly, the kids asked if they could
- 12:17Speaker 1: play Monopoly with me and we played for like, I know,
- 12:22Speaker 1: two and a half days of Monopoly. That's how long
- 12:25Speaker 1: it took to finish the game. And once again I
- 12:27Speaker 1: destroyed them and it was wonderful. I owned hotels on
- 12:30Speaker 1: every single Well, what.
- 12:32Speaker 2: Happened because the phone call I had with you previous
- 12:34Speaker 2: to your witing, you were drowning.
- 12:37Speaker 1: I was, I was, but I played a couple of
- 12:39Speaker 1: really smart hands and I got back on top.
- 12:43Speaker 2: But he's giving them a false sense of security.
- 12:45Speaker 1: Here's my point. Dad's involvement and Mum's involvement, slowing it down,
- 12:50Speaker 1: being present, being together, Oh gee, it makes such a difference.
- 12:53Speaker 1: And my older Better tomorrow is just the value of
- 12:55Speaker 1: time together, the importance of presents. And I guess finally,
- 13:01Speaker 1: if you want the food, get it on your plate
- 13:03Speaker 1: and then eat it in a different room. It's the
- 13:05Speaker 1: only way that you can guarantee that it's safe.
- 13:08Speaker 2: Have a happy family.
- 13:09Speaker 1: No cook more potatoes, I guess potatoes. Therel of that story,
- 13:16Speaker 1: We really hope that you've enjoyed our old do better
- 13:18Speaker 1: tomorrow today, have a wonderful weekend. If Father's Day is
- 13:22Speaker 1: something that you get to celebrate, please have the most
- 13:25Speaker 1: tremendous time, really celebrate being together and if not, please
- 13:29Speaker 1: know that our hearts and our thoughts are with you.
- 13:33Speaker 1: We hope that you get to have a really nice
- 13:35Speaker 1: weekend doing things that matter to you and your family.
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