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Pints, Paints & Poetry: Inside Andy Matthews' Manchester · The Discussion Podcast

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  This is the Late Late Lunch Show with Rod Maxwell. Supported by Matthew,
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  Towers. Tower bed learning in nature's playground. So today on the show I'm
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  catching up with the artist who is officially known as Andrew Alan Matthews.
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  To some people it'll be Andy Matthews and some people it's even Alan Matthews.
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  But he is andrewalanmatthews.co.uk.
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  He is a Manchester based artist. I've spoken to him before, and your works of
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  art are not scattered, but they're distributed across the south of Manchester, aren't they, Andy?
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  Yeah, distributed across Manchester. They've got people who have bought paintings
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  and limited edition prints all over Manchester and beyond as far away as Jamaica.
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  And also, but mainly I've got exhibitions around Manchester as well.
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  So yeah, it's quite widespread, really.
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  How does it feel to have to know that a piece of your art is sitting somewhere in Jamaica?
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  That's pretty cool. Yeah, it's brilliant because it was part of the Mossad nostalgia
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  collection and the people who bought it was living in Mossad.
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  It was a bit of the Mossad carnival in Mossad that I painted.
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  And you said it was a great depiction
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  of Mossad and it just reminds me of Mossad. every time I look at it.
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  So that's why they brought it here. I feel really proud of you.
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  That's pretty special, isn't it?
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  When you've made something that can have that tender, emotional connection with somebody.
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  Yeah, that's what I kind of do. I'm all about doing paintings,
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  giving the feel of a place on people, places and social issues rather than just depicting a building.
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  I kind of bring it to life with my artwork, me feel of the place,
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  short stories and poems and just bring the whole computer to life as well.
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  I have YouTube videos, yeah.
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  So remind me, what were you doing before you got the art bug?
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  Because this is something that you've developed.
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  You had it in you because I remember you telling me as a child at school,
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  you love to do art. But it was something that in the latter period you've really gone for.
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  Yeah, it was when I was in the textile design industry as a design separation artist.
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  I was employed as a commercial separation artist.
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  And I've loved it all my life, but that kind of like started me off in...
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  Being a serious artist and then i had a mental health breakdown and then went
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  to man went to university went to manchester metropolitan university i had a
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  textile degree and kind of like i wanted to be a textile designer.
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  Um but while i was there for three years doing all hand-painted artwork it all
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  turned to computers so there was not many jobs in textile design,
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  so I kind of like moved into call centre work and home furnishing companies
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  and just continuing with my art for that last 20 25 years or so,
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  my passion for art has really sparked from developing my own style because when I was at university,
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  I went to a lecture on LS Lowry and it opened my eyes,
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  so that he was a very accomplished artist it was LS Lowry painting all folks
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  over these their paintings but he chose to paint in his style and that's why
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  I do it where I choose to paint in my style in a Lowry-esque manner but a modern day,
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  way with all bright colours and vibrant scenes because Lowry only did like muted
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  greys and whites reflecting the 18th century at the time
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  but I'm trying to reflect Manchester and so forth and beyond in a modern day
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  way yeah But in some ways.
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  There's a lineage between what Laurie was doing in his day and depicting scenes
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  around Manchester and what you're doing today, only you're using more modern materials, etc.
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  But it's actually very similar in terms of the style even.
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  Well, that's right. It's kind of, with Muddy Day technology,
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  like Laurie used to go around with a sketchpad because there wasn't any real cameras that day.
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  I go around Manchester taking photos of buildings and different places all around
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  Manchester and Salford and beyond. I go on Google Maps and I look at maps as
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  well. So I use a whole variety of mediums to get me inspiration.
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  And I'll choose a location and a painting, mainly pubs, like the Britain's Protection.
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  And I'll do a scene in my style but in Lowry S manner because.
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  It's something I've developed over many years from photo realistic paintings
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  to now a free-flowing expressionistic manner, which is free-flowing and enjoyable to do, yeah.
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  So we'll take a break and we'll come back. I want to talk to you about these
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  art trails that you've been part of and also talk about your art being in several
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  pubs and their classic pubs as well.
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  And I love this because it feels like art is amongst the people and it takes
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  away that standoffish element that some people might associate with art.
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  So today my guest is the artist known as andrewalanmatthews.co.uk if you're going to his website.
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  Some people call him Andy, some people call him Alan.
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  We'll just know him as Andy Matthews. We'll be back with him in a couple of minutes time.
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  today on the show i'm delighted to be catching up again with alan matthews and
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  the alan matthews sometimes i i you know i have to say
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  when people have several different names when with brain injury it can be an
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  absolute nightmare but i'm one i'm like that myself some people call me rodney
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  some people call me rod so,
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  i i i shouldn't complain too much now.
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  You know we we were talking there about the background of you coming into art
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  and and your involvement in the textiles industry obviously there's an artistic
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  side to to that and of course the
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  the history of manchester as a manufacturing and an industrial city,
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  there was a lot of art interwoven with that because it was about it was about
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  textiles it was about fabrics etc wasn't it,
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  Well, that's right. There was a big industry around Manchester area with all
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  the cotton, you should call it cotton-opolis town, back in the day. And.
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  Then days ago, I was in the last death row of the textile industry,
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  basically, before it all went overseas to Ghana.
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  Like, it was ABC Batik I used to work for as well, and they did batiks for African,
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  textile designs for ceremonial robes, et cetera, and that all.
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  Got shut down, they were based in Hyde, it's all gone to Ghana now,
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  like a lot of industry in the textile industry. There's hardly any industry in Manchester anymore.
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  But yeah, it's the history I try to put into my buildings and people and places as well.
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  And people are starting to discover some of the history through art trails that
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  you've been getting involved with as well. Tell me about what they're about, actually.
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  Yeah, so it was the first one that I did recently, This year was with Sale Festival
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  Art Poetry Trail and I had one of my poems put up on the Caldo Lounge next to,
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  the King's Ransom Pub there as well.
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  So it was on display there for about a month.
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  Lots of poets got involved and they had a poetry trail all around the sale.
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  It was just a great event, which was organised by Dylan Miller,
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  the writer and poet himself.
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  So thank you very much for that. And it was just a great event.
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  Also, he's organised and...
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  Stretford Museum Poetry event that happened about two weeks ago and that was
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  a good event as well that I organised one of my poems were up in there about
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  the Gorse Hill pub in Stretford about,
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  fans going to a game,
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  of Man City fans and United fans so I remember you talking about that yeah so that's,
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  yeah so each one of my paintings come with short stories and poetry to bring
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  the meat on the bones of the paintings and highlights the good,
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  the bad and ugly, a bit like me, really.
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  And you know, you want to think about there, because we'll talk about Perville
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  of the Peak, we'll talk about one of my favourite pubs in Manchester,
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  which is Britain's Protection.
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  A lot of your art are on show in these places, and what I like about that is
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  that it gets it out to people in non-stuffy environments, and.
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  I do think there was an element to which in days gone by, people of working
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  class nature did appreciate the arts, did appreciate poetry.
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  Poetry could be for anybody, because it's cheap, isn't it? You can, you know,
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  and you can have a go, you don't need any materials, but I think sometimes people get,
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  confused that actually art is for a certain type of person, whereas actually,
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  we know from Laurie, and we know from history, it was for everyone.
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  That's right, because they basically poetry and art it all really came from
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  the streets really mainly poetry, they used to do songs in pubs all around Manchester and Salford,
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  and just do poetry events back in the 18th century and throughout history,
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  it was only with the elite museums, it kind of become that hoity-toity-ness
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  about it and when I was first starting out, I was like going to,
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  museums and art galleries and thinking what am I doing here I can't display
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  me working here but I got invited by Salford Museum and Art Gallery in 23-24.
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  To be an inaugural solo resident artist for an exhibition of me Salford and
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  Manchester by an art collection and that kind of was a big event really and.
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  The hoity-toity of this kind of fell away because you realise then no actually
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  It is for the people, you know, and that's why I try to bring, and that's why I,
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  try to bring my artwork to people in pubs and all around Manchester.
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  So, yeah, I like being accessible for the common man.
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  And then, I mean, even if you take the works of Banksy, right,
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  in some ways that's an illustration of it as well, isn't it?
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  That's right. I mean, a lot of people might disagree with the nature of how
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  he does it Because they might see it as vandalism But it's art for the people Basically isn't it?
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  Yeah that's right It's also bringing a voice to your art as well And that's
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  what I do with my art It's like art therapy for me,
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  and um he's bringing a voice to each part of my paintings and if you if you
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  ever get a chance to look at my website andrewanamathews.co.uk i've got lots
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  of art and videos and paintings and short stories poetry sometimes singing i
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  can't sing for toffee but.
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  I've had to go okay so happened to all of us now i want to i want to ask you
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  about passion right because when you're singing or you're doing poetry you can
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  hear the passion you can inject the passion in a number of different ways,
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  how do you express a passion or a love or an energy about a scene that you're painting,
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  how do you go about embracing that and communicating that yeah so basically
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  i'll first start with taking go around manchester and so forth take a photo
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  of the say the britain's protection pub,
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  and i'll take a scene of what the way you want to depict it take corn print
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  it out I'll look at it for a while and then I'll do a sketch and then I'll do
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  a poetry around it and the poetry kind of,
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  comes naturally to me the poetry or short stories and I'll write it in a way
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  that it's like spoken word as if you're speaking it in the pub yourself to a crowd of people,
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  and my passion comes from that really by depicting the actual scenes and when
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  I'm doing my artwork in the shed painting away about four in the morning dancing
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  to me like a nutter with passion on with music and everything blaring,
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  and probably my name is probably not like me for that but,
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  but yeah he's just putting the passion and when when you're like in that stress-free zone.
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  You just you just want to paint fluidly and the paint I use is the acrylics
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  and it's in a free fluid expressionistic manner and it's just so stressful stress stressless,
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  kind of a little bit it's just a lot of people a lot of people would turn and say that the whole idea,
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  of painting something getting the proportions right getting the colors right
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  using acrylic which is oil based isn't it so it can it can go off very quickly you know
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  it's not easy to use that would put them out in hives they would be stressed
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  but you seem to you seem to just take again to it what do you think is behind
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  that yeah well it's like there's a skill like like drawing,
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  watercolors gouache and acrylics and oil paints there's a skill in every area,
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  and it takes years and years to develop them skills i've certainly put 50 years
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  worth of practice in there,
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  and i say some people could get
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  stressed out with it but if you look at me videos i've got like a website,
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  showing how to paint my paintings and if you look at what I'm doing there it's such a free-stress,
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  free-flowing way sometimes somebody might not be able to do it straight away
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  but you'll probably take him a while like it has done with me.
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  I want to come back and talk about pubs because you could actually have your
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  own pub tour and it would all be class pubs for where you show your work and
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  we'll talk about a couple of
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  them in more depth So today, my guest is the artist, Andrew Alan Matthews.
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  You can go to his website, it's andrewalanmatthews.co.uk and we'll be back with
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  him in a couple of minutes' time.
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  You know, Alan.
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  I love the fact of talking to people who take their passion and move it on,
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  you know, at a later age in your life. Because, you know, you're not a 20-something,
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  right? But it's always been there with you.
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  And I love the fact that you're using it and you're enthusiastic about it.
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  And I think the tie to pubs is very suitable.
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  I guess it's deliberate as well but the pubs some of the pubs that you have
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  got working and displayed Peverell of the Peak Britain's Protection Pub I forget
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  the other one up in Stratford you were talking about which one was that?
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  We've got quite a few paint pubs all around Manchester Sir Ralph Abercrombie
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  there's a Prince in there but they're redeveloping the pub now the King's Arms Salford,
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  You've got the Lower Tergshead. There's one in there. There's one in Ashley, the Greyhound pub.
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  King's Ransom. They're all over Manchester.
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  Have you got one in the Greyhound in Ashley? Yeah, I've got one in the Greyhound
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  in Ashley pub there, yeah. How much?
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  Because I used to go there when I was a kid in my side, cycle there,
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  doing scrumping and going into the pub.
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  Really? Yeah. I mean, that's literally down the road from us here.
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  I must look out for that. so do you loan them to them or do they buy them or
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  how do you get yourself in the pubs yeah so I'll usually do a painting and then
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  I'll do a bit of marketing on it and I'll approach the pub and then,
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  say would you like to purchase a painting or a print sometimes I'll gift them
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  depending on my mood what I'm doing but yeah sometimes I buy them sometimes
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  I'll gift them I'll just gift it tasty records,
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  a painting for them but I think they're closing down but I'm not sure they have
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  closed down unfortunately really but yeah.
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  I'll try the best I can I want art to be accessible and affordable for people,
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  and that's what I'm about you know,
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  and it's but having him in pubs is just iconic I've got one in the Kringlewood
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  Club in Norvamoor where my dad used to drink in story about my dad,
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  Rodney, you'll be even sure. There's all over the place.
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  And then here's the thing. What I like about doing that is you're making connections, aren't you?
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  You're sort of connecting the history and the culture and the art with the story.
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  Because Manchester is a city that's changing all the time.
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  But there are these little jewels of ancestry, jewels of history that are at
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  least being maintained.
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  And we need to maintain them because otherwise it'll just become a city like any other one.
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  That's right and that's what I'm all about, about promoting the preservation
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  of buildings in Manchester I'm all for bringing a modern city to a modern.
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  City to Manchester but you need to stop demolishing our heritage it's like the
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  Hotspur Press in Manchester and the Rialto Rialto in Salford they were both
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  burned down by mysterious fires. Yes.
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  But, yeah, a lot of preservationists were trying to,
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  keep the building, but for some unknown reason the fire started,
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  and I don't think they're going to be able to keep that building now,
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  but they are going to replace it with the look of the building, but in a modern way.
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  What are they going to do, Andy? Yeah, they're going to build a skyscraper,
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  but on the outside, fuck it, it's going to be the same height and style with
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  all the lettering of the Horsford Press and Percy Brothers on the outside.
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  There's going to be a courtyard there, shopping areas as well,
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  and it's opened it all up to people.
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  So I think that's going to be a positive. So something out of a negative comes
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  a positive, and that's what I'm also about as well.
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  You touched on something because Manchester has always been a very progressive city, hasn't it?
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  Yes, man. And it's never been afraid to embrace the future, whether it be technology,
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  whether it be about people, and inviting people in, whatever it is.
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  At the same time, you feel like, I mean, it's changing all the time now,
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  isn't it? Yeah, that's right.
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  I feel sometimes like I'm being left behind in it, you know?
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  Yeah, I see. It's like a Manhattan of Manchester, isn't it? That's what I class it as. Yeah, it is.
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  And I think that's progressive. I mean, there's a new influx of people from
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  all around the world and people come all around the world, especially in the
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  Prince Protection Club.
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  And the Pebble of the Peak. The Pebble of the Peak has been voted the best pub,
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  in Manchester, in the country actually now. It's been voted the best pub in
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  the country. And Nancy Swanwick, who just passed away, the landlady for 55 years,
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  she was such an iconic landlady.
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  And I'm really pleased that that went to Nancy Swanwick as well, yeah.
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  And it's interesting because I now visit Belfast more often than I ever did before when I go back.
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  And, you know, you can do a lovely tour of pubs, proper pubs from from a certain era,
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  and what you get is you don't just get a pub and a drink but you see the people
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  that are there and these people have been there
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  or people like them have been there through the years through the generations
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  and some of them they're all from different backgrounds and they all tell their own story,
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  and and it could be a friday afternoon and there'll be some blokes in or maybe
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  finishing early off a building site alongside some people who,
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  might be writers or something like that.
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  And you think there's something special about a pub.
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  And you must find that when you're trying to capture it and a painting is capturing the essence of it.
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  Yeah, and that's what I kind of did. Capture the essence and character of the
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  people, places around every pub that I visit.
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  I try and put my own take on my force. But everybody's got their own take on it.
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  It's like I've sold quite a few prints with people commenting,
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  oh, I met my missus in this pub. This is why I bought the print.
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  There's loads of different stories that you get from people when going into
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  pubs. And that's what I think is great about it.
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  Great british society and i think the pubs are a culmination out of a focal
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  point for everybody and that's why i'm so proud to put my paintings in pubs,
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  around manchester and and then the connection back to the art makes it feel
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  more accessible doesn't it yeah that's right definitely well i'll take another
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  break and i want to come back because you've started an online shop and and And.
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  I think the other thing about today's period is that art is more financially
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  accessible than some people might think it is.
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  I've just been away somewhere recently up in Northumbria, actually,
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  or Yorkshire, I can't remember, and you could go in and there were pieces of
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  art there and you could buy it over, say, 10 months, 12 months.
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  And it might have been 400 quid, but you could pay 40 quid a month and there was no interest.
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  And and and i i think it's it's more accessible don't get me wrong 400 pounds
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  still a lot of money but 400 quid for something that's original that can be
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  a a piece that could go up in value as well is,
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  is can be a good investment maybe yeah that's right especially with the age
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  of ai digital now you can create any create anything through ai
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  but what's special about having an original print or an original painting is
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  that somebody's actually worked out in their head and use the hands and,
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  put the whole energy into the painting and that's what's great about original art.
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  And it tells a different story, doesn't it? It tells the story.
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  We'll come back and we'll talk about your online shop. So today I'm speaking
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  to the artist who is AndrewAllenMatthews.co.uk.
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  We know him as Andy and we'll be back with him in a couple of minutes' time.
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  where little explorers grow naturally now andy the thing i my my daughter's an artist and and,
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  she started studied art in leeds
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  and in the last couple of years now she's been starting to understand,
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  just what it takes to become a full-time artist but all the other things you
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  got to do you know and and i call it a portfolio career she's got about four
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  or five different jobs on the go just to keep afloat.
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  But you have to be able to be multi-skilled in a way because you've got to be
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  able to promote your work and that sometimes is through social media or online.
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  And therefore, you're building other skills other than just the artistic skills. Is that what you find?
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  Yeah, it's difficult because you can't like most artists in one-man bands like
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  me and you're doing absolutely everything.
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  So it's kind of like you've got to be a passion in doing art,
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  sometimes it's very difficult to try and make it in the art world,
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  it's taken me 50 years to get to this stage but all it takes is I suppose somebody famous,
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  to say well I can't buy it so you never know where it'll take you.
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  So you're now selling through your website as well?
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  Yeah, so I've got a shop page, andrellamatthews.com.uk.
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  They've all got Cityscapes of Salford, Manchester, London, New York, all different places.
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  Lots of varieties of artwork there.
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  And, yeah, it's just there. If you ever get a chance to go on the website,
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  check it out. If you don't choose Cityscapes and pubs and everything,
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  I'm sure it'll look great on your wall if anybody was interested, yeah.
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  And, of course, people can commission you to do a piece, just get in contact
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  with you and talk to you, and you can give them a price, basically.
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  And you could do stuff off a photograph, can you?
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  Well, they just send photographs of whatever they wanted, and I'll depict it in my style.
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  I've also done portraits for people and pet portraits. I tend not to like doing
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  them too much, because I suppose that's always been the bread and butter of
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  artists over the centuries.
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  But I like to do my cityscapes and that's what I'm getting known for now around
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  Manchester and so forth Fantastic, well look, it's really good to catch up with
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  you again, and we're going to play some of the tracks that you've selected in and around this,
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  as well Is there anything else coming up?
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  Because I know you've been doing poetry trails and all sorts of different things,
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  what's coming up for the rest of the year for you?
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  So, the rest of the year I've got an exhibition well, I'm the permanent resident
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  artist in the Britain's Protection Pub, which anybody can go in for a pint and
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  enjoy all the paintings and poetry in there.
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  It's a fantastic place to go into. One of the best pubs in the country.
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  Fairly. Just a short walk down the road is the Pebble the Peak Pub,
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  which have got a limited edition print in there as well, which Nancy Swarrow
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  has kindly allowed me to put in there, a forum which they bought.
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  She's just passed away and the pub has been voted the best pub in the country now.
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  And if it's okay with you, if I can read out a bit of poetry from the Peverell of the Peak Pub.
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  Please do. I have a bit of a tribute to Nancy Swanick and also a bit of history
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  of the pub as well. Okay, so here goes.
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  Peverell of the Peak Pub, an iconic pub, used as a brothel for GIs in the Second World War.
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  What's the score today? I hear you say, built in 1820.
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  Green Town Building stands here today. Mancunings love this place.
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  It's in your face on Chepstow Street supposed to be haunted but don't look daunted
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  it's a friendly cosy pub in a Manchester town
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  where people drown in beer so give it a cheer come here today lock on the view
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  and you will see it's our pride and glory in a Mancunian town
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  so yeah Pebble the Peak pub an iconic pub
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  use as a profile for GIs in the Second World War
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  what's the score of you say come to the pub today,
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  there you go that's that one what I'd also like to mention is.
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  I've just recently been approached by a musician called Tom,
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  who's just releasing his album, actually, this Friday, and he's used my artwork
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  for the front and rear cover.
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  So I made up with that. So, yeah. We'll play one of those tracks.
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  What is his name? What's his full name? His full name is Tom Muir.
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  Tom Muir. Right, okay. We'll give him a look up, and we'll maybe make that album
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  of the week here on the show.
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  Well here it's good to good to catch up with you and you're a busy man yeah.
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  I i'm gonna go out to the greyhound and take a look at your picture so i am
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  oh you're painting i should say out there as well right and that's my guest
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  today andrew allen matthews.co.uk is where you can go to see his website and
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  if you want a piece of art done in his style
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  get in contact with him it can be a lovely present for something can't it,
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  yeah it could be make fantastic presents and gifts and um,
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  they start off from £45 unlimited prints and then range up from that so affordable
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  for the common man there you go, or the common woman as well hey Andrew,
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  there you go, common people that's it, £45 starting with a piece of art and
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  it's unique, that's the beautiful thing about it, I'll catch you again maybe before Christmas okay,
• 27:54
  thanks very much Rod cheers Explorers grow naturally.