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The Next Round: Alabama Survives Texas A&M, Tennessee Stunned & College Football Playoff Chaos · The Next Round

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  Speaker 1: Jim Dunaway, Lance Taylor, Ryan Brown, live. The next round
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  Speaker 1: is on now. Well, here we go again. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like we do this show every single Monday.
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  Speaker 1: What a crazy weekend in college football. We just, if
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  Speaker 1: you were with us on the Next Round platform, this
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  Speaker 1: is how it started with Tom Lugenbill on Monday Morning Live.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us on the Sporting State. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to start it the same exact way here with
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  Speaker 1: Sporting State. Jim Dunaway still in Ireland. He's Lance Taylor.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Ryan Brown. The entire backroom crew is here. Tyler John,
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  Speaker 1: Scott Forrester, Brooks Carter, they're all back there. Helping us out. LT,
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  Speaker 1: another Saturday of college football where you're like, well, I
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  Speaker 1: thought I knew what I was talking about. I guess
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  Speaker 1: I didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just, I don't get it. I mean, it
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  Speaker 2: is the new reality that we live in. It is
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  Speaker 2: NFL-like and anything can happen. We said, look, there was
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  Speaker 2: so much carnage. When you look at week seven, there's
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  Speaker 2: no way we can, you know, replicate that in week eight.
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  Speaker 2: And it started early and often and just, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the Cincinnati, Texas Tech, I don't get how, and I
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  Speaker 2: do think Arizona's a pretty good team. Again, once we
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  Speaker 2: anoint somebody really good in the Big 12, they completely
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  Speaker 2: fall apart. But, you know, you go back to that
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  Speaker 2: game in Tucson, I think it was three weeks ago,
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  Speaker 2: Cincinnati could do absolutely nothing. And then they just run
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  Speaker 2: wild on, you know, what has been a pretty good
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  Speaker 2: Texas Tech defense. Not as good as it was in 2025, but.
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  Speaker 2: For them to give up 37 and for what they
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  Speaker 2: did on the ground, I mean, that tab kid went 173,
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  Speaker 2: and the Bearcats overall on the ground had 255 rushing yards,
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  Speaker 2: six and a half per carry. I mean, it was
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  Speaker 2: just an annihilation. You almost had the upset with Michigan.
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  Speaker 1: If they had any offense, which they don't.
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  Speaker 2: That was one of the worst offensive games I've ever seen.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Klatt will join us in the second half of
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  Speaker 1: the show, 1130 Central Time, 1230 Eastern. Joel Klatt from Fox.
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  Speaker 1: We'll ask him if it's the worst combined offense he's
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  Speaker 1: ever seen in a game. You had that one. You
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  Speaker 1: get to the midday window. We do get the BYU-UCF upset.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to talk about all these games in depth.
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  Speaker 1: But then you get to the late window. Texas Ole
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  Speaker 1: Miss was wild. Houston-Utah was a pretty crazy game. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we just keep having these fun college football Saturdays where
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  Speaker 1: anything can happen. And I get it. If you're used
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  Speaker 1: to your team being very predictable and dominant, that doesn't
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  Speaker 1: exist anymore. And you're like, this is no fun at
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  Speaker 1: all to me. But for the average fan just sitting
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  Speaker 1: and watching football, these Saturdays are a blast.
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  Speaker 2: It's absolutely incredible. And now we're down, what, to two
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  Speaker 2: undefeated teams left in college football.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm not sure if either one of them are
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  Speaker 1: any good.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and I thought going into, and it's funny,
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  Speaker 2: Utah's got one of those votes, one first-place vote in
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  Speaker 2: the Associated Press that came out yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not a number one team.
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  Speaker 2: No. That's a joke. But I did think the way
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  Speaker 2: they play defensively in limiting Connor Wegman and especially, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Mackay Hughes and that rushing attack because Houston is one
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  Speaker 2: of the more balanced teams in college football. And then
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  Speaker 2: Utah's offense finally shows up in the fourth quarter. You know,
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  Speaker 2: Dampier wasn't good throwing the football. He was incredible over
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  Speaker 2: 150 rushing yards. But I thought going into that game,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, Houston's going to win this game. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to be down to one undefeated team at the
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  Speaker 2: end of the night. And, you know, they ended up
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  Speaker 2: winning the game, but still just how wild this whole
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  Speaker 2: thing has been. It's really difficult to go Conference by conference.
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  Speaker 2: And like, I think you can identify the top team
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  Speaker 2: in some of these conferences.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But the second best team is really, really difficult.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Lugabelle brought this up a moment ago. I
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  Speaker 1: just want to touch on this real quick before we
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  Speaker 1: start looking at the games themselves. If you just go
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  Speaker 1: in power five, you know, Indiana, Michigan, one score game.
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  Speaker 1: Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
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  Speaker 1: Texas Tech, Cincinnati never was a one score game. It's
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  Speaker 1: going to take me a minute because Kansas Baylor, one
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  Speaker 1: score game. Oregon, Illinois, not being a one score game. BYU, UCF,
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  Speaker 1: one score game. Iowa, Minnesota, one score game. It ends
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  Speaker 1: up Oklahoma, Mississippi State, one score game. Tennessee, South Carolina,
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  Speaker 1: one score game. Texas A & M, Alabama didn't end
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  Speaker 1: up being that way. I mean, you can start going
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  Speaker 1: through this and you're like, holy crap, we'll get a
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  Speaker 1: lot of one-score games now. You just do not get
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  Speaker 1: that in college football.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, for everybody that says college football trending
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  Speaker 2: in the wrong direction, I think we all are in
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  Speaker 2: agreement the 2014 playoff is way too much, but where
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  Speaker 2: we are now, parity-wise, that you can turn on any game,
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  Speaker 2: 11 o'clock, 2.30, 6.30, 9 o'clock games, and you've got
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  Speaker 2: these one-score games, much like the NFL, it just makes
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  Speaker 2: it that much more intriguing and That's one of the
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  Speaker 2: reasons Vegas has adjusted to these numbers. And you're seeing
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  Speaker 2: smaller and smaller spreads because there are obviously so many
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  Speaker 2: one possession games.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to do what we do every Monday following
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  Speaker 1: a college football Saturday, though Dunaway is not here. We'll
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  Speaker 1: just go back and forth. What we do is we
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  Speaker 1: just pick a game and talk about them. So you
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  Speaker 1: get first pick LT. Where do you want to start?
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  Speaker 2: Let's go to Austin, Texas. You know, I thought it
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  Speaker 2: was so interesting going into that game. Texas had lost
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  Speaker 2: back-to-back games and Ole Miss was anointed the second best
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  Speaker 2: team in the SEC and Texas is two and a
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  Speaker 2: half point favorite. Everybody's like, there is no chance that Texas,
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  Speaker 2: the way their offense is playing, is going to be
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  Speaker 2: able to handle Trinidad Chambliss. Chambliss, I think the worst
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  Speaker 2: performance maybe I've seen from Chambliss. Is that fair? Certainly
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  Speaker 2: in the.
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  Speaker 1: First half, yeah. The first half, he was really bad.
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  Speaker 1: He came back in the second half and played better.
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  Speaker 1: But first half, he was terrible.
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  Speaker 2: Well, look, in the Ole Miss defense that we all
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  Speaker 2: recognized before they had that get-right game against Vanderbilt, That
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  Speaker 2: Ole Miss defense was not good. I mean, Relique Brown
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  Speaker 2: running up and down the field.
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  Speaker 1: It's been bad all year. It's really been their Achilles heel.
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  Speaker 2: And look, Arch wasn't good again. Arch had freaking three
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  Speaker 2: turnovers again.
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  Speaker 1: He was good in the first half, but complete game,
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  Speaker 1: he was not good.
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  Speaker 2: But look, they find a way to win. And again,
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  Speaker 2: it just more and more bottlenecks what we've got in
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  Speaker 2: the SEC because now Ole Miss has their second loss.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, how many teams right now in the SEC
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  Speaker 2: have two losses?
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  Speaker 1: And it ain't done either, buddy. We're going to have
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of three-loss teams in the SEC.
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  Speaker 2: We are, yeah. I mean, right now you've got one, two, three, four, five, six,
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  Speaker 2: seven two-loss teams.
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  Speaker 1: You lose one of those next week. Not this Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: but next Saturday with Bama and LSU. So one of
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  Speaker 1: those will fall out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think we're to the point now that
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  Speaker 2: we really need to, and I think it was Klatt
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  Speaker 2: or Brock. Somebody last week was like, you know, maybe
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't one of those guys.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: But they were like, you know, people that are just
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  Speaker 2: writing three losses going to get in. I think it
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  Speaker 2: was Klatt because he was talking about the Big 12. Like,
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  Speaker 2: a three-loss team's not just necessarily going to get it.
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  Speaker 2: I think we might have multiple three-loss teams, especially because
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  Speaker 2: the Big 12 was over there flexing, saying we've got
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  Speaker 2: three teams that should be in this. Now Texas Tech loses.
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  Speaker 2: As good as that BYU win was against Notre Dame,
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  Speaker 2: the loss to Central Florida might even outweigh that.
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  Speaker 1: All right, we'll get back to Orange, but you just
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  Speaker 1: brought this up. We've got all these two-loss teams. Ole
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  Speaker 1: Miss is one of them. Here's Pete Golding being asked
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  Speaker 1: after this loss... are you still saying, you know, is
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  Speaker 1: everything still in front of you? Everything Ole Miss will
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  Speaker 1: still accomplish? Is it still on the table? Here's how
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  Speaker 1: Pete answered that. Pete, does it still feel like everything
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  Speaker 1: is in front of this.
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  Speaker 4: Team long term?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, 100%.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, there's not an undefeated team left, you know,
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  Speaker 5: obviously in this league. So we control our own destiny.
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  Speaker 5: And you go, I mean, you ain't got no my bads.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, we said all that. And that's what I
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  Speaker 5: said in the locker room. You ain't got no days
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  Speaker 5: off anymore.
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  Speaker 2: You know, that's over.
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  Speaker 5: So Um, you know, it's not easy week in and
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  Speaker 5: week out, but we got the right group. We got
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  Speaker 5: the right type of guys. We got good players. So
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  Speaker 5: we're going to go to work and see what happens.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. We talked about this all year or all off season,
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  Speaker 1: I should say, but this schedule seemed too daunting for them. Um,
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  Speaker 1: They have no room for error, and they still got
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  Speaker 1: to host Georgia.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was going to say, do they really control
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  Speaker 2: their own destiny? Because, you know, they beat Georgia. They
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  Speaker 2: give Georgia that second conference loss, but they've already got two,
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  Speaker 2: so I don't know what the tiebreaker situation would look like.
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  Speaker 1: I don't either, but Lance, well, in terms of playing
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  Speaker 1: for the SEC championship, maybe not, but in terms of
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  Speaker 1: going to the playoffs. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, two-loss
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  Speaker 1: team with wins over LSU and Georgia. They're in absolute block. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: for sure.
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  Speaker 2: I just... I mean, there's going to be a three-loss
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  Speaker 2: team more than likely, at least the way this thing
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  Speaker 2: is trending, that doesn't have to go to Atlanta to
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  Speaker 2: play in that game. Or maybe there's a three-loss team
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  Speaker 2: that plays in Atlanta and takes on a fourth loss.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, who knows? That would be fascinating right there because
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  Speaker 1: that would be the test of our theory that you're
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  Speaker 1: always in if you're in Atlanta, if you take on
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  Speaker 1: that fourth loss. So 34-27, they lose the game, Ole
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  Speaker 1: Miss does. And they are 2-2 over their last four
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  Speaker 1: after that blowout loss to Florida. Wins over Vandy, Missouri,
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  Speaker 1: and Texas. lost at Texas. It's just, this is emblematic
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  Speaker 1: of college football. They get blown out by Florida. They
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  Speaker 1: blow out Vandy. They blow out Missouri. They're on the
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  Speaker 1: verge of a blowout in the first half. I thought Texas,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why I had any faith in Texas,
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  Speaker 1: but I thought, man, Texas is going to blow them
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  Speaker 1: off the field. To Ole Miss' credit, they at least
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  Speaker 1: came back and made it a game in the second half.
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  Speaker 1: Weird clock management by Pete.
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  Speaker 2: The Emmett Mosley mishandle on the onside kick. At that moment,
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  Speaker 2: I was like, damn, Ole Miss is going to win
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  Speaker 2: this game. And if you go from blowing a 14-point
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  Speaker 2: home lead as a double-digit favorite against Florida and then
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  Speaker 2: blowing a 21-point lead at home to Ole Miss, like
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  Speaker 2: that money, they would have been getting it together.
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  Speaker 1: You think they're passing the hat?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they're passing the hat at that point
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  Speaker 2: with three consecutive losses and blowing double-digit leads in back-to-back
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  Speaker 2: weeks at home 100%. And that got really, really uneasy.
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  Speaker 1: It got very uneasy. All right, to Arch Manning because
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  Speaker 1: he was such a focus in this game. 18 of 30, 2-12,
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  Speaker 1: a touchdown and two interceptions. First half, Arch. Look better.
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  Speaker 1: Second half, Arch, not so much. It's not all on
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  Speaker 1: Arch Manning, though. I mean, you could not have walked
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  Speaker 1: that ball to Cam Coleman any better than he did
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  Speaker 1: at 40 yards down the field, and it goes right
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  Speaker 1: through Coleman's hand. It's a walk-in touchdown.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Cam Coleman ends up with the one grab,
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  Speaker 2: 12 yards, and he's an enigma.
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  Speaker 1: He really is.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I really think that this could end up
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  Speaker 2: being a George Pickens situation. Now, the difference was Pickens
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  Speaker 2: was never on the field because he was always in
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  Speaker 2: Kirby's doghouse. Yeah. But you see the professional career that
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  Speaker 2: Pickens has now had from Pittsburgh to Dallas, and you
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  Speaker 2: just wonder if with the talent, and look, he's got
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  Speaker 2: to get it between the ears, but, you know. is
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  Speaker 2: his NFL career going to be much better than what's
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  Speaker 2: going on right now.
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  Speaker 1: Arch Manning did have three total TDs. He had the
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  Speaker 1: rush TD, including the one that looked like the famous
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  Speaker 1: run his uncle had, where you pull it out and
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  Speaker 1: you run the naked boot and nobody's over there. So
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  Speaker 1: he did at least score three total touchdowns. Here's his
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  Speaker 1: head coach after the game asking, hey, look, you challenged
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  Speaker 1: Arch Manning. Did you see results of the challenge?
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  Speaker 6: I think as much or more than anything was his resolve,
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  Speaker 6: his grit, his mentality was, was important for the team
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  Speaker 6: because I think the edginess that I touched on, I
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  Speaker 6: think carried over to our team. And I think our
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  Speaker 6: team played that way because of him. And he's the quarterback.
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  Speaker 6: And when he responds that way, when he plays that way,
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  Speaker 6: when he shows that fire in his belly that he
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  Speaker 6: had tonight, I think the team responds to that. And
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  Speaker 6: I'm just very proud of him because this isn't easy.
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  Speaker 1: His world, his life is.
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  Speaker 6: Different than anybody else I've ever been around that's been
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  Speaker 6: part of this sport.
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  Speaker 1: But the guy keeps coming back.
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  Speaker 6: And so we're lucky to have him as our guy.
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  Speaker 1: So after two consecutive 27-24 losses where they blew a lead,
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  Speaker 1: They avoid blowing the lead against Ole Miss, and now
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  Speaker 1: for them, it's State, who's banged up, we'll get to
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  Speaker 1: that in a little bit, at Missouri, at LSU. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they've got to walk the tightrope here with these two
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  Speaker 1: losses Texas does, but they narrowly avoided adding loss number
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  Speaker 1: three and being out of this thing Saturday night.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do think Texas now with not only the
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  Speaker 2: fourth quarter comeback against Ohio State on the resume, but
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  Speaker 2: now a win over a top ten in Ole Miss,
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  Speaker 2: they can absorb that third loss. So I think Texas
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  Speaker 2: is probably in as good of shape as anyone to
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  Speaker 2: go 9-3 and be able to get in this thing.
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  Speaker 2: But they do have, you know.
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  Speaker 1: They don't need that third loss to be Arkansas or
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  Speaker 1: somebody like that. They could absorb it if it's at Missouri,
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  Speaker 1: at LSU, maybe even at A & M. Yeah. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they've got three road games, or three of four right
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  Speaker 1: there at the end on the road.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, what will be tricky if they obviously lose two
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  Speaker 2: of those, the door is shut.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the door is absolutely slammed. So that is Texas,
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  Speaker 1: that is Ole Miss, one of those two teams. Both
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  Speaker 1: those two teams are still alive. It is hard to
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  Speaker 1: believe they're both going to get to the finish line
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  Speaker 1: with just two losses, both of them with just two
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  Speaker 1: losses after Saturday night. I'll go next, and I'll go
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  Speaker 1: to Auburn and LSU. And as we talked about a lot...
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  Speaker 1: with lugan bill earlier the one thing i have learned
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  Speaker 1: in college football really the last two years but definitely
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  Speaker 1: this year one week is not indicative of the next
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  Speaker 1: like used to in college football with teams like the
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  Speaker 1: nick saban era alabama ryan days ohio state teams even
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  Speaker 1: clemson under dabbo sweeney when they had it going before
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  Speaker 1: they fell apart one week built on another like you
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  Speaker 1: could you could pretty well predict what was going to
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  Speaker 1: happen week to week to week with these teams there's
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  Speaker 1: nobody that does that in college football anymore And Auburn
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  Speaker 1: is the poster child of that. The team that somehow
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  Speaker 1: was good enough to go to Athens, pull off the
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  Speaker 1: upset against Georgia, comes back to Auburn and lays about
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  Speaker 1: as big an egg as anybody laid on Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Alex Golish goes from signature win to his
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  Speaker 2: first blowout absorbed as a head coach. An embarrassing loss.
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  Speaker 2: And I did get a text from an Auburn fan saying,
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  Speaker 2: What would Georgia in Baton Rouge against LSU with that
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  Speaker 2: number be? And I said, I think LSU is a
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  Speaker 2: one and a half point favorite.
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  Speaker 7: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think when we see our SEC power rankings tomorrow,
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  Speaker 2: that is the LSU team that we saw against Clemson.
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  Speaker 2: That is the LSU team that when you look at
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  Speaker 2: the analytics, you know, the analytics showed maybe the best
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  Speaker 2: team in the SEC. They played like it, scoring on
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  Speaker 2: five of those first six possessions. Sam Leavitt. I do
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  Speaker 2: wonder if the turnover would have gone Auburn's way on
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  Speaker 2: the pick.
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  Speaker 1: What did you think about that overturn?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't think they would overturn it.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't either. I watched it, and I'm like, I
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  Speaker 1: think it's an interception, but you can't think it's an interception.
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  Speaker 1: It's got to be 100%.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and you saw two plays later, they do the
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  Speaker 2: trickery on the fourth down.
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  Speaker 1: That was a great play call.
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  Speaker 2: It was a great play call, but the ball's on
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  Speaker 2: Kiffin to do that, because if you don't get that, like...
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  Speaker 2: Whether it was a pick, because they end up going
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  Speaker 2: down and getting seven there, whether it was a pick
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: and Auburn's got the ball there or they don't get
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: it with a short field, I don't think Auburn was
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: ever going to win this game by any means. LSU
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: just completely outmatched them. But you do wonder that minute
• 14:28
  Speaker 2: of momentum early in the first half if it would
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: have swung things a different way. The thing we talked
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: about all week long, The concerning thing for Auburn was
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: LSU's ability to get to the quarterback and Auburn's inability
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: to protect Byron Brown. And Blake Baker just said, look,
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: we're going to put a spy. We're going to make,
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: you know, we're going to blitz and spy. We're going
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: to make Byron Brown beat us. And he was unable
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: to do it.
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, 19 carries, 21 yards. and a lot of that
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: was sack yardage because that negated, you know, he had
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: a 34-yard run, so a lot of the sack yardage
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: negated that, but you saw it early. That first possession
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: for Auburn, I think there were two or three Byron
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: Brown runs in that three and out, and LSU was like,
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: we ain't doing that today.
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: Nope.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: You may beat us, but you're going to have to
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: beat us a different way than what.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: You did in Athens. Yeah, I thought the Blake Baker
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: game plan was tremendous because I don't think there was
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: any way that Auburn was going to be able to
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: manufacture points and On the other side, Sam Lovett, like,
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: are we going to get, like, great Sam and then
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: bad Sam? Because we got great Sam on Saturday.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but even in that, you know, the interception was overturned,
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: just a horrific decision by him.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was really the only bad decision he
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: made all day. And that was a terrible decision.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: It was a terrible decision. You're rolling right, the yardage
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: you can get, go out of bounds. Instead, he tries
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: to force one in, makes a terrible throw on the run,
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: and it either was or was not intercepted. I don't
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: know which side you fall on there. I do want
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: to address this before we hear from Lane Kiffin and
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: Alex Golish. I do want to address this because I
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: had somebody say this on social media, and I think
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: it's in relation to something Klatt said on our show
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: last week. Klatt on our show was like, I've got
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: to be very careful how I talk about plays that
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: are being reviewed because I know people are listening to that, right?
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: And they're listening in the review center. And I saw
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: someone say, I think Greg McElroy influenced that decision because
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: Greg was the one saying the interception should have stood.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Rules guy, I think it was Matt Austin, did not.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: Sean McDonough, I think, thought it should have. And people
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: are like, you know, Greg McIlroy totally influenced that decision.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: I have been told that the SEC has no volume.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: that initially in the replay center they had volume up
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: on the games, and they're like, no, we don't want
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: to do that.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: They shouldn't do that.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they've got no volume in the SEC
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: replay center.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got to be objective, and you cannot have
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: any kind of variable that could affect any of that. So, yeah,
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: that's the way to do that.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: And I've been told that's the way it is in
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: the SEC review center, no volume up on any games.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: They don't hear anything.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: So Greg's getting blamed not only for Alabama stuff, but
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: Auburn stuff now.
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Greg cannot win when he's doing a Bama game or
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: an Auburn game. You should have learned that by now.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: All right, let's go to cut five. Let's start with
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Alex Golish, Tyler. Here's cut five from the Auburn coach.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: And I've heard this from a lot of Auburn fans.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Like you said, your Auburn fan said, it was hard
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: to find a positive in this one. You try to
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: find positives in losses, but coming off the Georgia game,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: almost impossible to find a positive in this one. And
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: that's exactly what the head coach says.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: That was a really, really, really bad performance on both sides.
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: There's no silver lining. There's no anything. That was bad
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: in every imaginable way. Inability to run the ball. Inability
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: to convert on third downs. And then flip it. The
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: ability to stop. Certainly the run. You've got to tackle
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: better to stop the explosives. combination of all of it
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: so really really poor performance um obviously did not have
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: him ready to rock um really disappointing sure i'll i'll
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: find a way to make sure that we respond because
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: it's the only option we got i do believe that
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: we got a bunch of dudes in there that'll fight
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: that'll figure it out we've had the highs of highs
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: so far and that would be the low of lows.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Man I mean, you can't find two. I mean, last
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: week in his news conference, he was on the verge
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: of tears, and it felt like he was again for
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: two totally different reasons.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Well, I noticed Scott does not have an Auburn hoodie
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: on today. Scott, are you off? I don't know if
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: he's backed off that bandwagon. I think he probably has.
• 18:39
  Speaker 7: That was embarrassing.
• 18:40
  Speaker 8: It was.
• 18:40
  Speaker 7: That was just embarrassing.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Did you think they were going to win, though, Scott? No.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: You didn't think they were going to win, but you
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: thought maybe you would get a little carryover from Athens?
• 18:48
  Speaker 7: I mean, you know, I took it as an upset.
• 18:50
  Speaker 8: Alert pick but you know that was that was kind
• 18:52
  Speaker 8: of wishful thinking yeah um.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: And for purposes of the graphic too well look and
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: and they're about to be four and four because now
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: you go to Oxford and you're a two touchdown underdog
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: and I know before Auburn fans say well look in
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Athens you guys said there was no chance um you
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: can't keep doing this you can't beat an elite team
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: and then get completely run out at home and then
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: go back on the road and beat what is a
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: borderline really, really, really good Ole Miss team. Now, the
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: good news is after Ole Miss, you get a massive
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: break for maybe three weeks because Kamario Taylor, I don't–
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: they tried to force him in there. That didn't last long.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: I know we'll get to that game in a little bit.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: It came back a little too early.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: I would think that there's a chance that Kamario, they
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: might have to shut him down for the year.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: But 4-4, Scott, 7-5 still alive if you're 4-4, right?
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: I mean– I know when you beat Georgia, you expected
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: more out of Auburn than this, but if you can
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: get to the end of season at 7-5, you'd look
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: back on this Saturday and say, that sucked, but you'll
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: kind of forget it?
• 19:46
  Speaker 7: Where I am is I have.
• 19:50
  Speaker 8: Have come to terms with the fact that all that's
• 19:53
  Speaker 8: going to come of this season is the win over Georgia.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was pretty good. But you get the win
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: over Georgia. Again, I know that this is not a
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: moral situation as far as moral victories and moral seasons,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: but you go 6-6, you get back to a bowl game,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: and you do have that Georgia win. I think that
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: is something because this should be the least talented Alex
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Golish team that he should ever have.
• 20:17
  Speaker 7: I hope it's the worst offensive line it will ever have.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: It can't get worse, Scott.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Of course, we said that about Oklahoma.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. That offensive line, I don't know if
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: it can get worse.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Coming out of that game, too, Jackson Harris, number four
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: for LSU, was really, really good. But that was next level,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: what he was doing Saturday.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: I know, it's crazy. Well, let's hear from Lane Kiffin.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Ask point blank, and I think most would say that's
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: the best LSU has looked this year. Maybe against Clemson,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: but Saturday was awful good. Lane Kiffin, ask that after
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: the game.
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: Top to bottom, is it the best game.
• 20:49
  Speaker 9: You've played this year, do you think?
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know you just finished.
• 20:52
  Speaker 10: It, but... We've actually... We've played really good games this year.
• 20:57
  Speaker 10: I mean, the opening game, that's about as good as
• 20:59
  Speaker 10: you can play, 51-10. And last week they didn't score
• 21:03
  Speaker 10: against us. So we've played really well in five games,
• 21:06
  Speaker 10: really had five games where our backups are in at
• 21:09
  Speaker 10: the end of the game, including three SEC games. That's
• 21:11
  Speaker 10: very abnormal. And then, you know, we didn't play as
• 21:15
  Speaker 10: well in the other two games.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: I think at their best, I think they're the best
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: team in the SEC. And I know this seems knee-jerk,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: but I said this last week. Their two losses, they
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: were down 17 in that emotional game in Oxford. They
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: came back, had ball in hand to either tie or
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: win that game. And then the Kentucky, I don't understand
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: what's going on with Kentucky, but it's pretty incredible under
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Will Stein. And that was a road one-point loss. So
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: this LSU team, at their best right now, I mean,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Georgia does not have a trade as green. Georgia does
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: not have a Jackson Harris.
• 21:51
  Speaker 9: No.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: But you know college football this year. As soon as
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: you start thinking that about a team, they lose.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Scott, I don't know if you can pull LSU's schedule.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Well, they've got a bye this week, of course, because
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: it's pre-Alabama.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: That was quick.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course Scott can. I mean, but Lance, you've
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: got to beat Alabama and Texas back-to-back weeks. Now the
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: good news is you get them both in Baton Rouge.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: And then you've still got to go to Tennessee.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: And you've got to go to Tennessee.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: I can't tell you how hard I was pulling for Auburn.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: I had no skin in the game because it was
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: an 11 o'clock game. I did lean LSU in that game,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: but I did not play it. But I was pulling
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: so hard for Auburn. And look, I didn't get to
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: pull long because that game was almost immediately over. But
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: I want to see Lane absorb that third and fourth loss.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: But I don't know if it's going to happen. Like,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: I think right now they're going to be a healthy
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: favorite over– no, not healthy. I think they're a three-and-a-half
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: point favorite over Bama.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Okay. And then over Texas?
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: That's where I would put it. Over Texas, depending on
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: how that plays out. I mean, that's why, like, these
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: numbers are kind of hard to predict because week in,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: week out, like, it just really depends on what you
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: look like the week before. But right now I would
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: say they're probably four-and-a-half over Texas.
• 22:54
  Speaker 9: Okay.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: At Tennessee, they're probably a 2.5 to 3.5 point favorite.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: That is a tough road right there.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: You've got to win all three of those.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: But can they absorb a third loss?
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Who's their best win if they do?
• 23:09
  Speaker 11: I mean, the A & M.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: And the Mississippi State wins do nothing for you.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: They don't do any. I mean, Kentucky right now is
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: their best win.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, that was a loss.
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Kentucky's their best loss.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: But you would have to win two of those three.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: And so if Alabama, Texas, and Tennessee, I mean, they're
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: all right now top 20 teams so if you were
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: to win two of those three then you do have
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: a couple of ranked wins there i don't know again
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: we've got to find 12 teams to put in.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go to Columbia, South Carolina. This was, going into
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  Speaker 2: the weekend, my favorite game on the board. Now, look,
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  Speaker 2: when they went up 14, I was like, here we go.
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  Speaker 2: And then they completely fall apart, and the Vols get
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  Speaker 2: up 24-17. To me, the key play was fourth and
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: one at the South Carolina 39 with 335 left. They
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: were able to get that stop. They come down. They
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: get the touchdown. That crowd was amazing for a team
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: that going into that game was 3-3.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: It's crazy that they continue to show up and continue
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: to make the noise.
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  Speaker 2: Good for Shane Beamer. I've always been kind of on
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  Speaker 2: not a guy I dislike. I don't know how good
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: of a coach he really is. But I think the
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: pivotal moment was when they went into the swamp and
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: they could have completely fallen apart after blowing the 17-point
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: lead to Kentucky. And they played so well in Gainesville
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: against Florida. And, like, that is carried over here. And,
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: you know, you go from thinking Tennessee's got, you know,
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: this incredible defense, which, you know, it is really, really good.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: But Lenora Sellers has reverted back to his 2024 year.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: What we saw on the back half of that season.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: This kid, and I know he's still, you know, he's
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: got to protect the football a little bit better. And
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: he's got to refine the downfield passing. But, man, his
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: just raw skill set. his ability to run that football
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: against that Tennessee defense, I was very impressed with South
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Carolina on Saturday.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Now, there are a number of Tennessee fans, some of
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: whom work with us at Sporting State, who either have
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: insinuated or out and out said that the referees cost
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: them the game, that there was some sort of conspiratorial
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: impact on this game. For those that don't know who
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: officiated the game, It was lead official in the SEC,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: and he's been doing the white hat for a long time,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: a guy named David Smith. David just so happened to
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: play football at the University of Alabama. He was a
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: starting quarterback at Alabama and played football at Alabama. There
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: are those that are showing Tennessee's record when David Smith
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: officiates the games and their record against the spread when
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: David Smith officiates the games, and neither of them are good.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: I will grant you that. You watched the game. There
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: were three touchdowns called back by penalty, which rarely happens.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Two of them, alignment penalties where it was an illegal
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: man downfield. I thought replay showed both of those were clear.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: The third one was a hold. Holds a subjective call.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: I watched it. I was like, I don't have a
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: problem with a hold being called there. If you didn't
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: throw the flag, probably wouldn't have had a problem with
• 28:34
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• 28:35
  Speaker 2: It never jumped to me. I never knew this conspiracy
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: about David Smith. I mean, look, it was 12 penalties
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: on one side for Tennessee, nine penalties for South Carolina.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Wasn't that big of a discrepancy watching the game and
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: how it unfolded and played out? I really, I didn't
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: see anything egregious at all.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Volfan2053 in the chat says, we got David Smithed. I've
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: never seen that many TDs get called back. I haven't either.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever seen three on one team.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: But when they get called back and they go to
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: replay and they're like, your slot receiver is on the
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: line and he's covered up because he's on the line.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, they've got to call that. That is an
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: illegal receiver. I mean, I don't know what else. I
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: get the hold. You can sit there and argue about
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: the hold all you want. That's a subjective call. But
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: it's not subjective when a guy is improperly lined up
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: that makes him an ineligible receiver.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, here's what Tennessee needs to worry about, in my opinion,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: because now you've got this magical situation with Kentucky going on.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: And then you go to A & M, and by then,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: who knows where this A & M team is going
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: to be. But still, on the road, if they're playing
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: a full 60, that's a difficult test for this Tennessee offense.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: You've got LSU. and at Vanderbilt. Deshaun Bishop right now,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: this is Derrick Henry-like. He had 32 carries, 120. He now,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: if you go back to last month, 34 carries against Auburn,
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: 19 against Arkansas, 32 against Alabama, 32 against South Carolina.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Over the last month, he's averaging 30 carries per game.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: That is wild. When do you see that in college football?
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: You don't. Not anymore. Like you said, Derrick Henry level,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: back when Lane Kiffin was calling Alabama's plays in 2015,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: and Derrick Henry had, I think, 395 carries that year
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: in a 15-game schedule. You will... Um, you, you gave
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: me the, I'm hearing that. Thank you. You gave me the, uh,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: rushing totals for Deshaun Bishop. And how many carries did
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: he have?
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: He had 32.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: You'd like to have seen it 33, that fourth down
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: play call. I don't, I don't know what you're doing there.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, like, what are you doing? You got to shop.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: He is your go-to. He is one of the biggest
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: rocks in all of college football.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Didn't make any sense. And again, that was the pivotal
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: turning point.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: You win the game. If you pick up that, and
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: I was fine with Hypo going for it. I thought
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: that was the call. Oh, I pick it up. The
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: game's over.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: I loved him going for it because, you know, at
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: that point, you know, the momentum completely flipped and South
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Carolina is able to come get that touchdown and, That
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: was not an easy cover by any means. South Carolina
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: minus two and a half, but they got home.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just sweat that one.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, really did.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: The Lenora Sellers carry was crazy there at the end
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: where he just fall through, fall through.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, I, I, I, yeah, I, I didn't know. I mean,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: he definitely got in though.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Oh, he got in. Now there are some, again, you
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: go back to replay and some people are, are saying his,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: his wrist touchdown before the ball crossed. I mean, look,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: it got replayed. They let it get in. Um, It
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: was just an amazing second effort. Now, we're about to
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: play Shane Beamer. Some may need a history lesson here
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: on why Shane Beamer is saying what he's saying. Scott
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: watches a lot, a lot of coaches after games. I
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: thought this was kind of weird, Scott. I mean, you
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: pulled it out for a reason. But, I mean, we
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: are in 2026, and he's about to reference a game
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: that is four years old. When you saw this, were
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: you like, wow, I did not expect Shane Beamer to
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: go down this path?
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: I just found it weird. It's in his opening statement.
• 31:56
  Speaker 8: Nobody asked him about this. It's just, he took it there.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, so for those that don't remember, 2022, Tennessee's a
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: college football playoff team. They go to South Carolina. They
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: get run out of the stadium. And then there was this, again,
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: conspiracy theory that Connor Stallions, if I remember the theory right,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Connor Stallions had shared Tennessee information with South Carolina to
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: protect Michigan, just to continue to knock teams out of
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: the playoffs.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Because that's when it was Spencer Radler completely lit up.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: It was a weird game. There's no doubt it was
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: a weird game. But there had been this conspiracy that
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Connor Stallions, as he was gathering information on Michigan's opponents,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: had information on Tennessee. He shared it with South Carolina
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: so that South Carolina had an advantage. And it would
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: clear Tennessee out of the path in case Michigan lost
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: a game. Shane Beamer still has that on his mind.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Four years later, here's what he said, as Scott said,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: not even ask about it, in his opening statement after
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: the game.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: All the bull crap conspiracy theories from the last four years,
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: hopefully we can put that crap to bed now. Because
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: I don't even want to give credence to it and
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: give oxygen to it because it's so ridiculous. But it's disrespectful,
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: all these conspiracy theories about the 2022 game It's disrespectful
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: to our fans that were in this stadium that night.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: It's disrespectful to our players and coaches that scored 63
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: points against them that night and held them to 38.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: So I don't know what conspiracy theories they're going to
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: come up with this year. Maybe it's the lights from
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: the state fair or something affected their ability to play.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: But we won the football game in 2022 because we
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: were the better team. So I hope we can put
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: that crap to bed. And we won the game tonight
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: because we were the better football team.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: So hopefully that can be our stories.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: And again, I got a lot of respect for Tennessee.
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: I got a master's degree from Tennessee. And I got
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: a lot of great friends in Knoxville, a lot of
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: great friends on that staff. But that's embarrassing, all this
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: credence that we're still talking about this stuff.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: Four years later.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: So hopefully we're not talking about that anymore after tonight.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: I don't think anybody was talking about it.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: I don't think anybody was. I didn't even reference to
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: that game. Maybe I did hear a reference or two
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: to the game, but not the Connor Stallion's angle on it.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: South Carolina has become that team to me that you
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: don't want to play right now.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: Now I've got to look at their schedule and see
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: if they got left.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: They have got... Really, it's just one that really would matter.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, these teams in Oklahoma, A & M, Arkansas,
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Clemson are already dead and gone.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Oh, but I see who they're playing.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're hosting Georgia.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Tough game for Georgia?
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: I do think it's a tough game.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, a weird stretch for Georgia because they
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: are at all... Georgia's got a sneaky, tough schedule left. Sneaky,
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: tough schedule for Georgia left. Let's do South Carolina first,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: and then we'll... flip over the Georgia schedule had a
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: bye this week while we talk about this but as
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: you look at South Carolina they can't make the playoffs
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Lance they're out of consideration on that Shane Beamer's probably
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: saved his job right now but he's actually got the
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: chance to land the plane okay here I mean.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah but what would be considered the successful season like
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: I think right now they beat I mean you know
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma's a four and a half point favorite they're not
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: a large favorite there so that's definitely a winnable game
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: but let's just give them a loss there and let's
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: say that They're favorite against A & M. They win
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: that game. They're favorite against Arkansas. They win that game.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: They're definitely going to be favorite at Clemson. So, you know,
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: three more wins. If they went seven and five, like.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Especially where you were.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: When you were two and three after the loss at
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: Kentucky in overtime. I lost two Kentucky in overtime. You
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: were 2-3 ready to fire the guy. You finished 7-5.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: It's a pretty good finish.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: You know what's crazy? If they don't blow a 16-point
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: lead against State and a 17-point lead against Kentucky... I know.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: They're right in the middle of it.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: They are sitting right there at 6-1 right now, and
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: they're probably... They're a top-10 team.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Now, Alabama is the one game where they were never
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: really in it. I mean, 49-18, Alabama ran them out
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: of the stadium.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: But you agree South Carolina seems like the team that...
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: has no chance of doing anything, but it's the team
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: you don't want to play right now.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Well, and Georgia has to play them Saturday, November 21.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: And really, to your point, that's the only team they
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: play that they can impact. Oklahoma's out of this thing.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Texas A & M' s out of this thing. Arkansas was
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: never in this thing. And Clemson is a complete dumpster fire.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: They're out of this thing. So Georgia's the only team
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: that they could punish. While we're there, real quick, and
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: we'll go to Josh Heifel after this, Tyler. While we're there, Scott,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: can you throw up the Georgia schedule? Because all of
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: a sudden, the way South Carolina's playing, look at this
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: finish for Georgia. They've got Florida and Atlanta. Ten and
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: a half point favorite there. For the cocktail party. Loseable game.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: It is a loseable game.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: I would think Georgia wins that, but loseable game. They
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: go to Ole Miss. Ole Miss will be an underdog
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: of how many points in that game?
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: I would say right now, Georgia's probably a two and
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: a half to three and a half point favorite.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Tight, tight. You're at Missouri. Or no, you host Missouri.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you host Missouri. You're a favorite there. Now,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: you just said they're at South Carolina.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think right now Georgia's probably a seven and
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: a half point favorite.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: At South Carolina?
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: And they ought to blitz Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech's no good.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: But this four game stretch for Georgia.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just, I mean, there's maybe one loss in there.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: But still, that makes you a two-loss team.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they go from what I believe was going to
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: be an undefeated season, regular season for Georgia, to now
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: maybe a two-loss team. But yeah, I agree with you.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: It has gotten trickier.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Interesting finish for the Georgia Bulldogs. Penalties, the story for
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: the Tennessee Volunteers. They had three touchdowns callback, three touchdowns
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: callback for Tennessee. Penalties, the story there. So Josh Heupel
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: asked about that, a frustrated Josh Heupel, After the game,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: here's what the Tennessee coach said.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Give credit.
• 37:36
  Speaker 12: South Carolina made plays down the stretch that put them
• 37:40
  Speaker 12: in position to win the football game. For us, the
• 37:45
  Speaker 12: guys competed hard. We didn't play smart enough offensively. Penalties
• 37:51
  Speaker 12: just crushed us. You let a good football team hang
• 37:56
  Speaker 12: around on the road defensively. It's got a chance to
• 37:59
  Speaker 12: bite you, and it sure did at the end.
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Again, man, coming off that emotional win over Alabama, a
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: dominant win over Alabama, really, and then to lose that
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: game in that fashion. Felt like they were the better team,
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: but you just can't commit that many penalties at key times.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: If you had Trinidad Chambliss or Keelan Russell or a
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: healthy Camario Taylor, how good would this Tennessee team be?
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you could give them a quarterback, they'd
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: be really good because their defense is fantastic. Really good.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: And they run the football like crazy. And what they
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: could do off play action with a really quality quarterback
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: off of Deshaun Bishop. They could eat people up. I
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: do think that this Tennessee team probably, how should I
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: say this? I think they're good. but a fugazi as
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: far as being a college football playoff team.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think they can land the plane and
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: get in the playoffs, especially with that loss Saturday. They've
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: still got some difficult games remaining. We mentioned it earlier
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: with LSU playing them. If you get past that one Saturday,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: you've got a shot, but not with that loss Saturday.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: It probably knocked them, even though they're still a two-loss team,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: I think realistically knocked them out of the playoffs. All right,
• 39:11
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• 39:29
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• 39:32
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• 39:36
  Speaker 1: right there was probably josh heupel's feelings about the way
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: that game played out yeah yeah coach could you give
• 39:41
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• 39:44
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• 39:46
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  Speaker 1: All right, I want to go Alabama and Texas A &
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: M 30-21. Alabama beats the Aggies. And....
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Star 31 to 20.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: What was it? Did I get the score right? Which
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: one was it? 31 to 20 or 31 to 21,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: 31 to 20. My apologize. I said 30 to 21,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: 31 to 20. Alabama wins by 11 over the Aggies.
• 41:01
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• 41:11
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• 41:12
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• 41:15
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• 41:19
  Speaker 1: go on a lot of deaf ears.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: And that's fine.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Most PSAs do. I don't think people stop and listen
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: to PSAs. But I'm going to say it, and I
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: want you to hear everything I say. Did that win
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: look pretty? No, it did not. Were there issues in
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: that win that you're concerned about with Alabama football? Your
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: inability to run, the ability for teams to move the
• 41:41
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• 42:15
  Speaker 1: and you win a game over a conference opponent by 11,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: even if it's an ugly win that's got issues, I
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: think this day and age in college football, you've got
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: to be happy with this win. We are not in
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: the era of college football where Nick Saban... was able
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: to lose guys like that that are going to the
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: NFL and then replace them with NFL guys that were
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: just standing on the sideline waiting their turn. We don't
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: have that depth like that in college football anymore. This
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: is the NFL style now. The rosters might not be
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: 53-man rosters. but they operate like a 53-man roster. In
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: the NFL, you have that many injuries. You're bumping up
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: practice squad guys. They're not good enough to be on
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: another NFL franchise. They're on your practice squad. That's what
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: you're doing in college football, Lance, with that many key injuries.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: It was an ugly 11-point win, but an 11-point win
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: is something you've got to thank God for and move on.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Well, and a lot of that was A & M' s
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: three turnovers, eight penalties. But the thing that would concern me,
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: because I said going into this game, You want to
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: see Alabama bounce back 35-plus points after scoring 45-plus in
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: the first five games, and then the offense just completely
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: going into a shell against, albeit, two really good defenses
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: in Georgia and Tennessee. But the thing I wanted to see,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Alabama's ability to run the football, because it started out really,
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: really good at the beginning of the year. And now
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: these last three weeks, they can't run the football.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: They cannot. Now, some of that you've got to say, though, Lance,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: is missing pieces in the offensive line. It's not all
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: of it, but then it's got to be some of it.
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think missing pieces in the offensive line. Obviously,
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: the separation for these receivers has been different since Ryke
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Coleman-Williams has not been in the lineup. Big day from
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: Rico Scott on Saturday. But if I'm an Alabama fan,
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: I'm really concerned because... This team might end up 10-2.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: They might end up being able to beat LSU. But
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: if you can't run the football, you cannot consistently, once
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: you get to the postseason, beat good teams.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: You're right. It is.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: Where's A.K.
• 44:03
  Speaker 13: Deer?
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: Do you know?
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: I guess he's not good enough to get in front
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: of Correll, who's apparently third. He's certainly not good enough
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: to get in front of Treshawn Brown, who's apparently two.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, Corral was hurt, and you still didn't see
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: AK there.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. I'm like, why wouldn't you give
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: him a chance just because he is such a home-run hitter?
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: But 68 yards, under 2.5 yards per carry, that's not
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: going to get it done. But I agree with you.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: You had a double-digit win. My buddy, our buddy, Mick
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: Gillespie was over. He ended up doing his postgame from
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: my office, and he was like, are you going to
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: jump on there with me? I was like, absolutely not.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: You have fun with that. And I said, it's going
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: to be– he had to travel. He was doing something,
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: but I told him, like, you– you're going to end
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: up doing a three-hour show if Alabama loses this game.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: Maybe a five-hour show.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it may never end.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: I said, but now that they've kind of got a
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: little distance and they had the 14-0 fourth quarter, it
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: looks a lot better on paper. And they did close
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: out the game they needed to. And I agree with you.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: In today's world, when you're going against a really talented
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: A & M team, do you have a double-digit win?
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: That's big.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: That's three times I'm giving that PSA. I promised the
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: staff that'll be the last time I do it. But
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: I just think you've got to accept an 11-point win.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Keelan Russell was back to playing. closer to what Keelan
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Russell had been prior to the second half of the
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Georgia game and the entire Tennessee.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: I think you would take a Keelan's game every single
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: time out. Like, you know, with the legs, just enough,
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: you know, the 20 yards, but goes over 300 yards,
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: very efficient, 19 to 20 average over 10 yards per
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: attempt had the one pick, but that was, that was
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: kind of it.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Boy, the throw to Caleb Edwards, uh, the tight end
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: along the sideline of the end zone. That was a
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: heck of a throw right there. Beautiful throw. And those
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: tight ends are getting involved.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Marshall Pritchett scores as well.
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: Yep. Um, By the way, Marshall Pritchett not only scores,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: he does the celebration that got Jusek fired. Not fired.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: Fined.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, where he rips it off. And Jusek's like,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: my nickname's Juice, man. I was drinking juice. I wasn't
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: shotgunning a beer. I don't know what Marshall Pritchett was doing,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: but he got fined for that. And the NFL finally
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: had to rescind the fine.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: I am interested. Once this offensive line gets whole and
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Ryan Coleman Williams comes back, what it will do to
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: the rushing attack.
• 46:11
  Speaker 9: But.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: You know, that's the big thing that I would look
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: at moving forward for Alabama. And the fact that you
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: are playing LSU at the end. I know Alabama has
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: a ton of success in Baton Rouge. And Kayla DeBoer's
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: had a ton of success against LSU. But, boy, playing
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: in Baton Rouge right now against that team. I mean,
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: you could make an argument they're the best team in
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: the SEC.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: LSU? Oh, yeah. I would agree right now. But there again,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: week to week, that never matters anymore. Tyler, let's do
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: cut two here. So you mentioned Rico Scott. With Ryan
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Coleman-Williams out, they had to find something at receiver. And
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Rico Scott had an absolutely record day for Alabama. And
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: he's had some good play of late. I mean, I
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: think because a lot of people thought they knew Alabama's
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: number one would be Ryan Coleman-Williams. The number two would
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: be Lottie Brooks. It was the question who would be
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: the number three. A lot of people thought it was
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: going to be the talented freshman, Sandarian Morgan. But Rico
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Scott won the job in fall and has never relinquished it.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: He's played very well for Alabama, Rico Scott.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: No, and you can make an argument that was his
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: best career game.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: There's no doubt. The numbers tell you it was.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely highs and yards are in the total receiving yards.
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, Rico Scott, he has become a,
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: I guess we can call him a weapon, right?
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: He was Saturday. He was Saturday. All right, here is
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: Kalen DeBoer on Rico Scott with Ryan Coleman Williams out
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: of the game.
• 47:31
  Speaker 9: Rico Scott with over 150 yards. Just how big was
• 47:34
  Speaker 9: that when you have another week with no Ryan?
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was huge.
• 47:37
  Speaker 14: I thought, you know, Rico came up in a big way.
• 47:40
  Speaker 14: I know just coming off of last week and a
• 47:43
  Speaker 14: couple of plays that, you know, I knew you'd like
• 47:45
  Speaker 14: to have had him. He's, you know, developing those expectations
• 47:48
  Speaker 14: for himself above and beyond. You know, Keelan has a
• 47:52
  Speaker 14: lot of confidence in him and, you know, him and
• 47:54
  Speaker 14: Lottie made some big plays for us tonight. So, you know,
• 47:58
  Speaker 14: those are things and moments where as we do get
• 48:00
  Speaker 14: guys back, we just become a stronger team. And so
• 48:05
  Speaker 14: there's a lot of winnable and teachable moments that are
• 48:09
  Speaker 14: happening today that can make us even better as a
• 48:11
  Speaker 14: football team through the second half of the season.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: And they won't get 100% healthy in the bye week.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: There's some guys that are going to be out long term.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: But they're going to get healthier in the bye week,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: including Ryan Coleman-Williams. I think that's the big one. He's
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: expected to be back for the LSU game.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Got to have all hands on deck for that game.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: Boy, you do.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: You do. And that's one of those games that is
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: going to be so pivotal. I mean, it really does
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: look like that's going to be the spot for a playoff.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, whoever wins that game. I mean, worst case,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: you're getting three losses on the other side. So I
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: think whoever wins that game is more than likely in
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: the college football playoff. And that's one of those that
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: we might have to take a look at going to
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: New Orleans.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Uh-oh.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: You hate that town.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: I don't like New Orleans. Hate is a very strong word.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: I try to avoid using it.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: That atmosphere should be incredible in two weeks.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: It should be.
• 48:57
  Speaker 11: I don't know how you hate a place, you and
• 48:59
  Speaker 11: Scott both, that has that good of a food scene.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: Just to be honest with you, I like Cajun and
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Creole food, but I like it one meal. I think
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: that might be Scott's... Yeah.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Like, so if you're going for a weekend, like once
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: you have your fix, you're like, I can wait another
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: six months.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: That's right. I can't eat like I can't eat. I
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: can't eat etouffee at one meal, and then for lunch,
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: let's get a po' boy, and then I'm going to
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: go have some jambalaya.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: That's my issue. That sounds perfect to me.
• 49:28
  Speaker 7: My hatred of New Orleans has nothing to do with food.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, is it the National Guard has to roll
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: out every night now?
• 49:35
  Speaker 7: There's that.
• 49:35
  Speaker 8: It smells like piss everywhere.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: And vomit and weed.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: All of those.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, pass. The food's the best part of it. And
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: that's the problem. Like, anytime I go there, I'm like, boy,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: I cannot eat any more Cajun or Creole or. You know,
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: any of that right now.
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the crowds are a little large. The crowds
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: are large.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: Bourbon Street is one of those things I'm like, do
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: it once to see it, but I don't really want
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: to spend a whole lot of time on Bourbon Street.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: The French Quarter is cool, but once you've seen that,
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: you've seen it.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: This is the time of year, though. Like, don't go
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: during the summer. I think I told you me and
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Maddie went in July.
• 50:12
  Speaker 15: Oh, that sounds horrible.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: It was terrible. Like, the first thing, you know, we
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: go down to the quarter she had never been before,
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: and so I'm like sweating so bad. Before dinner, I
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: had to go back and change what I was in.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: That's the other thing. Anytime I've been, it's been super humid.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: It could be middle of the winter and it's 100% humid.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: But you need it in the 60s there. The 60s
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: in the fall in New Orleans, it's a pretty cool vibe,
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: but I know you absolutely hate it. That should be
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: an incredible game. Do we have a kick time yet?
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: I think they've still got to reserve it. It's going
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: to be primetime. Although that day, hang on, let me
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: pull this up.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: There were some really, really good games that day. Yeah,
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: that Saturday. If you were to stick that at 11 o'clock,
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: it would be too much of a known at that point, right?
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: No chance you're going to put that at 11 o'clock.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: The SEC absolutely hates LSU.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. You're saying if you put that at 11 o'clock,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you think Kaitlin DeBoer would take an 11 o'clock kick?
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, I'd love it. The games that are reserved
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: for nighttime, these are reserved for either a 2.30 or
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: a 7 o'clock kick. Or 645 or whatever. Alabama at LSU,
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: Georgia at Ole Miss. And sneaky, Kentucky at Tennessee. So
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: you could only have two of those three at night.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: I personally think what they'll do, I think your ABC
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: all day that day opens Texas at Missouri because that's
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: reserved for the early window. So that's guaranteed early window.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: I think they'll go Georgia at Ole Miss at 2.30,
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Alabama at LSU primetime.
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: That's my guess on that one. I think you're dead
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: on with that.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: Now, if the SEC really wants to make a point
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: here with LSU, Lance, ESPN will not have any problem
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: doing Georgia at Ole Miss primetime, would you think?
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: I would agree. I think either one of those are
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: big draws. I do think just with the two losses,
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: the Lane Kiffin element, Alabama, I think you're dead on.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: I think that's going to be your primetime game.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: That's a fun Saturday of football, by the way. Texas
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: at Missouri. You've got Texas A & M at South Carolina.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: Interesting game there, even though it's not going to be
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: playoff implications. Alabama at LSU, Georgia at Ole Miss, Kentucky
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: at Tennessee, Oklahoma at Florida.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: Hey, how much steam has Oregon at Ohio State lost?
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: Is it that same day? Yeah. Yeah, we looked at
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: that thinking that'd be such a tremendous day.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the other one, the Holy War. Like,
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: we were going to have undefeated, undefeated. Now BYU's got
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: the one loss. But if BYU was to beat Utah.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: You know they're going to do that, right?
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: Probably. I mean, Utah right now a three-point favorite.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And everybody's, oh, okay, so BYU's down. Now Utah's
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: back being the best team in the Big 12. No, no.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, those are the only look-ahead lines, and Ohio State
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: is only a six-point favorite over Oregon, which makes no sense.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: That's in Eugene?
• 52:45
  Speaker 6: No.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: That's in Columbus?
• 52:47
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: Ohio's only six.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: Now, did you see Oregon this weekend against Northwestern?
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 52:52
  Speaker 10: Oh, no, no, no.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: The points were, I thought you were going to say,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: did I see them against Illinois, which I did. But no,
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: the point spread?
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: They're a two and a half point favorite at home
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: against Northwestern.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: And Eugene, Northwestern's a two and a half point dog.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's right.
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: What in the world is going on here?
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, that is, look, I know we'll get to this.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: That has got to be the most disappointing program in
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: college football.
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: Some of it understandable. They fired their offensive coordinator. So
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: he's obviously the scapegoat, but Lance, you're playing without Dante Moore,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: an NFL quarterback. I don't know what you're supposed to
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: do there. And their backups have not been good. I mean,
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: Raiola was good in relief, and really both times in relief,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Raiola's been good. Otherwise, he hasn't been good. I mean,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: I know they've got three losses, but you've played a
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: month without your NFL quarterback.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: I get that, but still, Oregon is one of these teams,
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: and that's why they paid Raiola so much. I get it.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: We've got some mis-evaluation on talent.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: There's no doubt they missed on Raiola. He's not what
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: they thought he was going to be.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: And Dan Lanning missed on his offensive coordinator.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: He absolutely did. What game was it? I guess it
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: was the Oklahoma State loss where we asked Clatt about that,
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: and he said Dan Lanning just fell too much in
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: love with his current staff. And you promoted a guy
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: that probably was promoted above his head.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a Peacock game. They're three and a half.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: Three and a half.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: That's against Northwestern. I don't... I mean, I think that's
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: going to be a very, very physical, low-scoring game, and
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: I kind of lean Northwestern.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: I was about to say, would you feel good walking
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: to the window at Hard Rock Bet or going to
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: Hard Rock Bet and taking Oregon?
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, if that would have been a week
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: one game where neither one of these teams would have played,
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: Oregon would be a 27.5 point favorite.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, look how much it's changed. All right, that's one
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: hour in the books. We've got a ton of games
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: to get to and the NFL as well in the
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: next hour. Joel Klatt coming up on the next round
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: at 11.30 Central Time, 12.30 Eastern. It is the next
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: round on Sport and State presented by Hard Rock Bet.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: All right, we start our number two. Hard Rock Bet
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: presents the next round on Sport and State. We've got
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: a lot of games to get to. It is Lance's pick.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: We will not delay. People are asking in the chat
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: why I put my finger, why I've got my finger wrapped.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: I was slicing an orange at home, an orange peel,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: and sliced beyond the orange and onto the top of
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: my finger.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: I didn't know you were into finger puppets. I mean,
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: it's Halloween. Can we put a little ghost face on it?
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we put a little face on there. Uh, and
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: I could tell, I could come up with a segment
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: where the pinky does the talking, you know, about football
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: or something like that.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: Let's workshop this.
• 55:20
  Speaker 15: I think we used to have something similar.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: We did.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: We did.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 55:23
  Speaker 10: Yes.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: Uh, uh, probably can't do that. Uh, but yeah, we
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: could do the pinky. You could do the talking. We'd
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: put a little face on there. Uh, so yeah, I
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: just sliced the top right off my finger there. So
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: we'll be wearing, we'll be wearing some bandaging. What, um,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: this was Saturday night, Sunday morning. What do you think
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: the first thing I did was? See if you can guess.
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: You went into the ice. Poured a Diet Coke.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: Other than that.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: You went into the ice, Tredis, to see if the
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: ice would stick to the open wound?
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: No, no, I did not. Oh, that'd be weird. No,
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: I went downstairs and got a golf club and walked
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: out in the yard to see what the swing is
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: going to be like if I can't touch the club
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: with this pinky.
• 56:03
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: So how is it? Just perfectly fine. Okay, good. Good, good.
• 56:06
  Speaker 15: Well, that's the most important thing.
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: Exactly what my wife said. It was like, well, I'm
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: glad we got that.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: You got a couple of days off, though, right? Until
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: you get today off because course is closed.
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: Course is closed today, so our big test will be tomorrow.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: So you're going after it tomorrow.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, going after it tomorrow. In fact, some of our
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: friends are coming in town from Tuscaloosa, so I'm taking
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: them out to our friends at Inverness tomorrow. We're going
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: to play 18, and we'll see. I'm going to do
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: it with only nine fingers. So if I can beat
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: you with nine fingers.
• 56:31
  Speaker 15: Ryan, if you hit like five over tomorrow, are you
• 56:33
  Speaker 15: going to blame it on that, though?
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to say, I mean, obviously, if I
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: had been perfectly healthy, I would have shot under par.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it. So can we go to Orlando,
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: the bounce house?
• 56:41
  Speaker 8: We may.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: Let's go to the bounce house. As crazy a finish
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: to a game as you possibly can.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: I had a room full of people, so I didn't
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: have the volume on when that whole thing was going down.
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: But it was so weird because, I mean, it's rule
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: to fumble, right? And then... Where are we?
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: You're at the end of regulation?
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: The incomplete pass and then the... You're in regulation, not
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: in overtime. Yeah, not in double overtime.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: All right. So at the end of regulation, we've got
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: the field goal, right? That gets blocked. Yep. They kicked it. Well,
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: let's rewind. Let's go all the way back to first
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: down on that possession. So Scott Frost calls timeout. Quarterback
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: comes to the sideline. He clearly gives him two plays, right?
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: Quarterback gets confused. I don't know how he made this error.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: But he gets confused and he clocks the ball on
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: a stop clock, which I've never seen anybody clock them now.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: I think famously the great Kenny Stabler once clocked it
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: on fourth down for Alabama, threw it out of bounds
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: back then on fourth down to stop the clock. That's
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: bad enough. Clocking it on a stop clock, I don't
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: think I've ever seen. Then they run it and the
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: quarterback looks completely overwhelmed or actually throws it out of bounds.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: Quarterback looks completely overwhelmed. So Frost is like, let's kick
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: on third down, which turns out to be a good decision.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: Kicks it on third down. It is blocked by BYU.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: And a kid's helmet comes off. So then we have
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: to go to review, which screws it up. I don't
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: know if you know this, but the Big 12 got
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: this wrong. I don't know if you've seen this.
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have not.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: So what they rule on review is, ball did not
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: cross the line of scrimmage, so you get a fourth down.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know that rule, but that's
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: one reason you kick on third down. If you've got
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: a bad snap, you can fall on it, call timeout,
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: and kick another on fourth. But also, if the ball
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: never crosses the line of scrimmage on a kick, you
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: get a fourth down. And the clock stops.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: That's why it is so good to kick on third
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: down sometimes.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: And the clock stops. The Big 12 replay ruled, though,
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: that due to the fact that the kid's helmet came off,
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: that's a 10-second runoff. It should not have been because
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: the clock stopped at the end of that third down.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: So it shouldn't have been a 10-second runoff. So that's
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: where UCF should have had another kick right there.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: So back-to-back weeks now for the Big 12, the non-call
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: against Notre Dame. That's right.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: Back-to-back weeks, they've screwed up the clock, too. So it
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: goes to overtime. Now, overtime, Lance, that also was a mess.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was just one thing after another.
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know how you felt. I was a little nervous.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: I knew once we got into the second overtime with,
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: at that point, Central Florida having the ball first, my
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: plus 7.5 was not in jeopardy with the Knights.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, with that game, I don't think anything was given.
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: But I thought once it got to overtime, I did
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: think BYU would find a way to win that game.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: I did, too. Better team normally wins in overtime, I
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: feel like. BYU, I think, is the better team, though.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know. But it goes to overtime, and Central
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: Florida gets the win. Just an insane ending to a game.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the key on Jenkins was pretty good.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought so, too, until the very end when
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: he couldn't handle regulation.
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: You know, this is, I mean, again, another setup in
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: college football. Just wait, because we've got this game coming
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: up Friday night. Baylor at UCF. Dave Aranda gets fired.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: Central Florida coming off this big win. What do you
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: think the number is?
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say... Is Baylor favored?
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: No, Central Florida one and a half.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: One and a half. And everybody's going to say Central.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: Wait a minute. Baylor fired their coach. They just beat BYU.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: They're only one and a half.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: They had beat Kansas 17 consecutive years until this past weekend.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: Aranda gets fired. Like, this team's going nowhere.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 15: That's right.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: This is probably going to be the resurgence for Baylor under,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: you know, the interim coach.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: I can see that.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I can't draw the Baylor B or a Bear
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: or anything because it's only one and a half. But, boy,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: I would love that one.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: I would, too. That'd be a popular upset alert pick.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: So BYU, contender or pretender? They've got the win over
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Now, here's the other one, Lance, is they
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: got the Holy War this week. And is it going
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: to stun you if they go in and win that game? BYU?
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: No, not at all. I mean, I think those are,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: you know, equivalent teams.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know that Utah's any good.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you mean the Holy War in two weeks.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: In two weeks, I'm sorry, the Holy War in two weeks.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: And it's not going to stun you if they go
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: in and win that game. Not at all.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: Are we back to Big 12 only getting one in?
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: You tell me because, I mean, we can combine all
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: this together. Gosh, I meant to send this to Scott. Scott,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: I am going to send you– I don't suppose he's
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: got the– Scott, do you have the Cody Campbell tweet
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: while we talk about Texas Tech? I do not. All right,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: I'm going to send it to you. I'm going to
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: send it to you. You want text or email?
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 7: If it's the last thing he tweeted, I can just
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 7: pull it.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if it's the last thing he tweeted,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: but here's the problem when you've got big money booster,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: all right? You've got big money booster. The positive is
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: I get all the money I want. I can go
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: get all the players I want. I've got all the
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: facilities I want because I've got a billionaire that is
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: funding my program. But as we've always said, when the
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: billionaire funds the program, he's used to getting a massive
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: return out of his investment. So what is he looking for?
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: He's looking for you to win games, not lose to
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: the likes of Cincinnati on the road. And here's the
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: problem for.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: Joey McGuire is here's Cody Campbell after the game. Here's
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: the tweet he sends. Did he delete it, Scott, by chance?
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: Because I kept looking to see if he deleted it.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: I don't think billionaires are ever going to delete. There's
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: no apologies.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: There is no excuse or reason to lose a game
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: like this. We have to be better at Texas Tech football.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: That's the problem when you're dealing with billionaire funding your
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: program is he wants immediate results. And he's going to
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: be openly critical of you when you don't get them.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: They've lost one game this year.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 13: One game.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: One game. And that's what he's tweeting. No excuse to
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: lose or reason to lose a game like this. We
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: have to be better. That's what Cody Campbell tweets after that.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, it is a puzzling loss at Cincinnati.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, and the way that, I mean, again.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: They were never in the game.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they got gashed.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they were never in the game. I don't know. Again,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: college football is impossible to figure out right now. I
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: ask you, I think. Two or three times last week,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: you know, I made the case for chaos. I don't
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: have the sheet anymore. I threw away my sheet from
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: last week, but I made the case for chaos. And
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: that's one of the games that I ask you and
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, there's a path to victory for Cincinnati.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: But it's, you know, it is hard to see, honestly. Yeah.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: Never in the game.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, Texas Tech was never in the game.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: And I said that for a couple of reasons because
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: I go back to the game in Tucson and how
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: just anemic that Cincinnati offense looked against that Arizona defense.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: And then finally last week, I know it was against
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: Arizona State that's not very good this year, but Texas
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: Tech put 52 on them and they dominated that game.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: So I was like, OK, they're finally rounding into shape.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: So to go back to your question, are we back
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: to just one Big 12 team getting in? I think
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: the answer is obviously yes, is it not?
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it's going to come down, so if
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: you've got a couple of one losses, and I don't
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: even know if they can absorb only one loss is
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: now where we are, but like a one loss, well.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: See, a one loss BYU is a conference champion.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: So they're in.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: They're in.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: And BYU is the one that's got the win over
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: Notre Dame.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, so let me throw this out. Let's say that
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: either Utah or Texas Tech, say Utah takes a loss
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: this week to BYU. And either Utah or Texas Tech.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: Or next week. I've got that game in your head
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: that it's next week.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so both of those take a loss. So they've
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: both got one loss. Well, only one of those teams
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: could play BYU. I don't know how that tiebreaker works.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: But the team that has one loss that doesn't play
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: in the Big 12 championship game.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, Utah.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: Texas Tech's going to have no wins.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: No, Utah's not either.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, they've got the Houston win.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 13: I mean.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: But that's not enough to get in the playoffs.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 11: Well, I was going to bring it up. Andy Staples
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 11: has his bracketology out. I'm curious how he does it.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 11: I don't know if he projects out the way, I guess,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 11: that Lenardi does.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: Or he does it the way it is right now.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 11: Yeah, because he has both BYU and Utah in his bracketology.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: I can't see it. I just can't see it.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 15: What's the scenario where both of those teams make the playoffs?
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: Well, Utah, theirs would have to be, I guess, go
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: undefeated and lose to BYU in the conference championship game.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 15: And then BYU's got a 2-0.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: Big 12 champion. Yeah, BYU's a two-loss Big 12 champion.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 15: Scott's got it right here.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: And Utah is undefeated. But here are Utah's wins. If
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: they're undefeated, this is what they're getting in on. Idaho, Arkansas,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: Utah State, Iowa State, Kansas, Colorado. They need Houston to
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: not lose again, Lance. That's what they need right now
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: is Houston don't lose again.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: And that's going to be a big ask.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: Cincinnati, BYU, which at that point would be a conference champion. Arizona,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: sneaky good Arizona, by the way. That's only a two-loss team.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: TCU and West Virginia. That is a hard sell on me.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: It's a hard sell Utah getting in with that resume.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: You see his first four out, though. Notre Dame first
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: team out again. How's that going to go over? So
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: I guess he's got Miami beating Notre Dame. So it
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: looks like he's projecting because you wouldn't have Notre Dame
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: out right now. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 11: So I guess that's what he's thinking is BYU is
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 11: going to be a two-loss Big 12 champion.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And he's got Miami beating Notre Dame, I guess.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 15: You see how they're hosting? He's still got four Big
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 15: 10 teams in.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I tell you the one thing, it's
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: hard enough, Brooks, and I still owe you my SEC
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: power ratings, and I apologize. I'll get them to you
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: after the shows today. It's hard enough to do those
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: power ratings for you every week in the SEC. I
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: cannot imagine being tasked with, hey, put together a 12-team
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: playoff for me every week. Because do you know what
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: an idiot you're going to look like when people go
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: back and look at some of those you put together?
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: I think everybody's going to look like that, even week
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: to week. I mean, again, look at this right here.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: He's got Kentucky in. Do you think Kentucky will be
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: in the 12-team playoff? I don't know.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, right now I would say, yeah.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 11: Well, so I went, speaking of on three, I actually
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 11: went back and reposted. They did a graphic of the
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 11: national championship prediction.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 11: Did they put that back out or did you go
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 11: dig that back up? I dug it back up. I
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 11: was curious how many people picked Oregon in the preseason.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: Enough.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 15: Brett McMurphy, J.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: J.D. Pickle.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: How does he say?
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: Pickle. Pickle. Okay.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 15: Brooks Austin.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 11: Uh david pollock brandon walker a few on our panel
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 11: picked organ.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: Is there uh brooks alston had him scott did you
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: have him.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 7: I did i had the ducks as my national.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: Champ yeah man you lost your quarterback for a month
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: i just i know there are other things i mean
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: like you fire your offensive coordinator so clearly there were
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: issues but I mean, it's not hard to figure this
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: one out with Oregon. They've lost an NFL quarterback for
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: a month.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't care. You have to care about that. No,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: but you lose at Oklahoma State. I know they're better
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: than advertised. No, no, that was with the NFL quarterback.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: That was the head scratcher. But I don't care. The
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: backup quarterback, you're playing a bad Illinois team.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 8: I know.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: And you lose by double digits.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: I know. And you're really, I mean, they were up 10-0,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: did not score again in that game. Yeah, so Scott
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: is showing you the on three people that picked Oregon.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 15: No, this is like a national media.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, this is the national media. On3
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: put it out, but the national media people that picked Oregon.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: Hey, look.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, we do this every single year. Somebody sent
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: me this on social media on X. Give me a second.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: I'll pull it up because we do this every single year.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: Every single year, the Associated Press poll comes out. I've
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: got the numbers right here. Going into this year.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, this is going to be different. I know we
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: always had one out of the top ten. It is
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: no telling.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: Every year we do this. So the Associated Press Top
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: 25 comes out. 22 of the last 23 years. So
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: it happens almost every single year. There is a top
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: ten team that finishes unranked. And every year we look
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: at it and we say, well, this is not going
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: to be the year, man. I can't make any of
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: these teams be unranked. And right now, as was pointed
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: out to me over the weekend, you've got Texas A & M, Oregon,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: and Oklahoma all unranked. We've got three this year. Not
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: just one, but three this year.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: And do we have another potential?
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: Who would it be? I don't know.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 15: I'm asking.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: USC wasn't top ten.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: God, no. Nor did they deserve to be.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: I told you guys.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: I'll make that my game next, if you'll give me
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: a second here. Let me pull up the preseason rankings.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: Preseason Associated Press. And I'll read you the top 10
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: and you tell me if anybody else could finish unranked. God,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: this is taking forever.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 15: I got it right here.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: You got it?
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 15: Ohio State. I'll just run through the top ten.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: This is the preseason.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: I'll ding when we've got one that possibly.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: Oregon. Well, ding. They will. Georgia. No.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 15: Notre Dame.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: Texas. No, it'd have to completely fall apart. Indiana.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 10: No.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 8: Miami.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 6: No.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 15: Texas A & M.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: Yes. Yes.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: Ole Miss.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, unless his bottom falls out. And Oklahoma. Yes.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so those three.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, three. I mean, it's 30% of it. Yeah.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's a hefty number.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: Scott's showing it to you.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 11: The thing I found pretty fascinating was I looked this
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 11: up over the weekend, and obviously that 2007 season still
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 11: stands out as the most times this has occurred, but
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 11: already we've had eight top 10 ranked teams lose to
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 11: unranked teams.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty insane.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: Hey, by the way, Scott, keep that up, because by
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: the way, the other half of the stat that is
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: rarely talked about is that in 29 of the last
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: 32 seasons, an unranked team has finished in the top 10.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: And I don't know that they can close the deal,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: but in that little poll that Scott's got up right there,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: I don't see Kentucky and I don't see UCLA. And
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: both those teams are ranked in the top 10 right now.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: So that's the other half of the stat we don't
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: talk about as much, is that 29 of the last
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: 32 seasons, the team has started unranked and finished in
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: the top 10. Don't know if UCLA and Kentucky can
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: close the deal, but they are there right now.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 15: Wake forced it far off either.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Wake's at 14 right now. They were unranked. And
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: they just continue to win and nobody pays attention to them.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: They play SMU in a couple of weeks. And I
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: was talking with Lugenbill about this earlier. That's probably for
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: the spot opposite Miami in the conference championship game. Wake
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: at SMU.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, we could have believed SMU before the season.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, 100% if you told me Miami and SMU played
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: for the championship.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: But I don't know how SMU beats Wake right now.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: Wake is playing well. Kalani Satake, Cup 15, Tyler. Here
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: is the BYU head coach as we wrap up that game.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: Ask if the obvious would be, oh, they just couldn't
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: get past Notre Dame. That's why they lost this game
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: to Central Florida. He's asked that.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 13: Was this a difficult week to get your guys to
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 13: move on from Notre Dame win last week?
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 15: Did you feel like that just.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 9: you know where they were folks this week no you
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 9: know um i think it would be easy for me
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 9: to just say oh yeah there's a sled that there
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 9: was we played hard i mean we started fast and
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 9: we were in it we were in the games like
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 9: you see the guys mentality they were in it i
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 9: just don't think i want to disrespect ucf by saying
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 9: that this was a letdown from us we played hard
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 9: they just played better and they and they they bested
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 9: us so i just can't sit here and tell you
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 9: like oh yeah there's a sled down all that but
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 9: When I say to me as a head coach, we've
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 9: got to get these guys ready. We just made a
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 9: lot of mistakes, assignment mistakes. These mistakes shouldn't be happening midseason.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 9: And so that's on me.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: You know, the bigger surprise for me, and I thought
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: this is the moment, or I thought last week against
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: Notre Dame was the moment they would lose or they
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: would miss L.J. Martin, more so here. But what surprised
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: me was Central Florida's ability to stay on the field,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: 9-16 on third downs, and 463 yards against that BYU defense.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: I don't disagree with Kalani Satake there. They did just play.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, they matched everything BYU was doing, and then
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: obviously BYU was minus one in turnovers. So it didn't
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: seem flukish, and that's bad for BYU because if middle
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: of the pack, Big 12 can beat what is viewed
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: as the elite. Reese Davis had BYU his number one team.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: 20 voters last week had BYU their number one team.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 6: That's right.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: And as we have seen many times this year, number
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: one cannot hold on to number one. And our number
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: two cannot hold on to number two. In this case,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: Miami was actually number one. And boy, did they hold
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: on to it. They destroyed Pitt. I felt bad. Like, man,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: I think I asked Lance two or three times. I
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: think I asked Furman, is there a path to victory
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: for Pitt? The answer was a definitive no. There was
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: not a path to victory for Pitt. So my apologies
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: for even making you answer that question a couple times.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: Holden Gerner was not terrible. But Miami is just their name.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: I mean, Malachi Toney.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: Malachi Toney is going to win the Heisman, isn't he?
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 9: No.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know now.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I can say no that quick
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: because Jeremiah Smith is playing with a backup.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: Jeremiah Smith is playing with a backup, but still, you've
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: got Darion Mintz there, so this is almost the Mac Jones,
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: Devontae Smith.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: It is, and Smith won that one.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: But I do think it's easy when you identify this team.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: As good as Mintz has been, by far, in a way,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: not even close, is what Malachi Toney.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: Is for this team. Yeah, the problem with Malachi Toney
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: is he's running these numbers up against a bunch of stiffs.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you how Malachi Toney could win the Heisman.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: Have that type of game against Notre Dame. Maybe not
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: the exact numbers he had. I mean, you're not going
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: to do that.
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  Speaker 2: That's going to be another problem. Like if he has
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: one of those games against Notre Dame, if he just
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: has a pedestrian game against Notre Dame, he's got no
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: shot because there's so many voters early in the season.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: I think people were watching a little Miami. The schedule
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: is so bad. Nobody's watching these games.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: All right, so that was BYU-UCF. We're going to go
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  Speaker 1: 2-7 Wisconsin beats USC, Lance. That one, not surprised at
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: the win, but surprised at how bad USC was.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to find this text because this was
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: pretty amazing. You might have been on the text thread.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: Let me see if I can find this. It was
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: stats from that game.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 15: Was it for me, Lance? It was me texting.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, it was. So, Brooks, give us that.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 11: The quarterback for Wisconsin threw for a whopping... 58 yards,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 11: and they won by 17 points. You know who else
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 11: won by 17 points and threw for 58 yards? Greg
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 11: McElroy in Alabama in the 2009 National Championship.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: That was a National Championship performance. 43 rush attempts. They just,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, literally said, USC, you're not man enough. You're
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: not man enough to stop us.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 11: I think Lance is looking for the USC stat line.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 11: I sent him minus 17 yards rushing. two turnovers, two
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 11: missed field goals.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: And for the first time in Lincoln Riley's history as
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: a head coach, held to seven points.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: Well, look, the offense was awful. We talk about this
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: explosive offense. You know, anytime they travel out of this
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: time zone, it's dicey. I know they got away with it.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: And in Piscataway, they got away with it. And State
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: College against Penn State. But, like, this offense was awful.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: And Trent Mosley's back in the lineup. King Miller, the
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: USC offense, couldn't run the football at all. And they
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: did get physically dominated.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: For Colton Joseph to throw for 58 yards and they
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: win the game by 17 over basically a top 15 team. Yeah,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: this was a smoke and mirrors USC team. And it
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: still is kind of amazing that, you know, that loss
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: to Oregon with a backup quarterback. Like, if they would
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: have gotten that win, we really would have bid into
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: USC was good.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. They're not good, Lance.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: They are 6-2.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: It is hard to envision them... riding the ship in
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: time to make it to the college football playoffs. Here's
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: what they have in front of them, Ohio State, this
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: Saturday night in the Coliseum. And then at Indiana, you
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: get interim coach Maryland, and then at UCLA, who looks
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: like a better team than them right now. There's no
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: way they win all those games.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: Again, if Wisconsin can hold USC to 7, points, what
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: can Indiana and UCLA's defense do?
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: I just don't know that they can score them. You've
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: got to win all four of those games now, and
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: they're not going to do that.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: Very, very much in play for Lincoln Riley. And him
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: losing the job after this season. It will be interesting
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: because if they bounce back and beat Ohio State, they're
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: right back to where they were before this Wisconsin game.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: I think if you would have told USC fans, like,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: you're going to have a letdown, which I don't know
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: how you have a letdown coming off a bye, but
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: you're going to have a letdown, but then you're going
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: to beat Ohio State in the Coliseum. I think USC
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: fans would have taken that, I guess. I don't know.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: Here is a very downtrodden Lincoln Riley after the worst
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: offensive performance a team that is coached by him has
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: ever had.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 16: Yeah, really disappointing game. Just flat out didn't play good
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 16: enough on any of the three sides of the ball.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 16: Didn't coach good enough. Made critical errors on the road
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 16: against a good football team that you can't make. We
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 16: had our opportunities after the slow start, the turnovers, to
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 16: get back in the game, especially with forcing those field
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 16: goals early, which were the field goal and the missed
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 16: field goal, which was huge. But we did the things
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 16: that you can't do on the road. We lost turnover battle,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 16: lost rushing battle. We had some big penalties at times
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 16: that obviously were really hindered on all sides of the ball.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 16: So just not good enough. I take responsibility for it. Team,
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 16: we did not play at our capability on any of
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 16: the three sides. We didn't coach good enough. And on
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 16: the road, as you see in this league and across
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 16: college football, you better be ready to be at your best.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 16: It's hard to win on the road. You've got to
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 16: play a lot better than we did tonight.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: There are people speculating, and this is just purely speculative,
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: that some getting out one step ahead of the posse,
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: he might be a name you see for the Baylor job.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: Would that stun you if he.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, that'll show you he's running for sure.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, he needs to get destroyed because, you know,
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: you could easily escape the conversation and the theory that
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley left Oklahoma because he wanted to get away
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: from the SEC.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: You there, you've never really bought into that one.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: I've never bought into that one.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But if he did this, you might, in retrospect,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: buy into it.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, it was just, I, at that point he
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: could have said, Hey, look, my job was in jeopardy.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: I'm doing what's best for my family. You can't leave
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: USC to go to Waco.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 9: You can't.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: Now that's, that's not a bad job. And, You know,
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: maybe Lincoln Riley in that Big 12 setting can kind
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: of recreate what he did with those offenses. I mean,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: I honestly think it's a pretty good fit.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: I do, too.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: And he knows how to recruit Texas really well. And
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: if you're Baylor, that's all you really got to do
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: is get some good athletes out of Texas and get
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: the transfer portal right.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: Like, if I'm Baylor, I feel like I'm getting a
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: bit of a damaged package and I'm getting the— The return,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley, I had to buy it off the return
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: sale rack. But I'm like, I'm still getting Lincoln Riley.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: That's a pretty good offense in a conference that is
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: wide open.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it's one of those situations. If
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: you're a Baylor fan right now, you'd take winning 55
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: to 48. Oh, heck yeah.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is the one thing. The universal
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: report I've seen out of Waco is that they'll go
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: with a more offensive-minded coach this time. The defensive-minded coach
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: they saw enough of. Yeah. And Dave Aranda. So you
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: can almost guarantee it's going to be obvious.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: I will say that one surprised me.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: Baylor's firing of Dave Aranda.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not necessarily at the end of the season. Two
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: stinkers in a.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: Row, though. They had not lost to Kansas in 17 tries.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: And it was two stinkers in a row. It felt
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: like their season turned on that missed two-point conversion against Auburn.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: I feel like if they get that and win that game...
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: It's just a little bit of a different team, but
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think at the end of the season, we'll
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: look back on that game and what that might do
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: for Auburn. I mean, without that win, I don't know
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: if Auburn gets bowl eligible right now.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. I mean, as crazy as it was
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: back to week one, that was a bit of a
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: turning point game. All right, so that is Wisconsin. Oh,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: by the way, I just wanted to do this real quick,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: and Scott does not have Wisconsin schedule. that I'm aware of,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: readily available, nor should he. However, Lance, this is a
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: 3-1 conference team, 5-2 overall. Their out-of-conference loss is to
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: Notre Dame, and it was a blowout. But Wisconsin's remaining schedule,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: it starts with a big noon kick Saturday at Iowa.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: This is am i wasting my time you're wasting your
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 2: time just listen to it this is the big 10
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: version of auburn.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: But listen to it if you will at iowa saturday
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: now was probably a prohibitive favorite how big a favorite.
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  Speaker 2: Is i mean it's not massive right now the last
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: number i saw on that game what time is.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 17: Kick uh it's big new kick saturday oh yeah um.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: I've got it right here they i was three and
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: a half.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: Now, three and a half points when Iowa and Wisconsin
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: plays is like ten and a half when everybody else plays. Lance,
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: after that, they host Rutgers.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: That's a win.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: Lance, after that, they're at interim coach Maryland.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 2: That's a win.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: Lance, after that, they're at Purdue. Listen to what you're
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: saying here.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: That's a win. I don't know. It should be a win.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: Okay. And then they host Minnesota on Black Friday night.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just gave you a path for two-loss Wisconsin,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: who is nowhere close to being good enough to be
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: Okay, so what are what we would deem the quality
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: wins for Wisconsin? I mean, obviously, USC probably still will
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: be one. But that's it, right?
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, they've got no quality wins. But they're a 10-2
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: Big Ten team. And there may not be a lot
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: of those.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, it would be.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: Just say now, look.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: Even with an Ohio State resume, Ohio State at 9-3
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 2: would be over Wisconsin.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 6: 100%.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: And should be. Just on eye test alone at that one.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying in the world we're living in, you
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: can't immediately discount it though. I think they probably lose
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: to Iowa and we just wasted our time there.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: Uh, move on for that one before we get to
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: some NFL in the next segment. Who's your game?
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 2: Uh, let's go with, we've already done that one. Let's
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: go Indiana, Michigan.
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: 13 to six and overtime. Um, You know, that was
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: another game where you talked about chaos in college football.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: If we're going to have a chaotic Saturday, could Indiana,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: they haven't lost it forever, could they take back-to-back losses?
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: This is one of the first times I found myself
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: pulling against Indiana.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: And pulling for Michigan. That had to be hard to do.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, 11 o'clock, I didn't have any skin
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: in the game, but I want the ultimate chaos right now.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: And I know a lot of people have been pulling
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: against Cignetti because a lot of people think the act
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: is getting a little bit old, but I thought Michigan
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: had them for a moment. I mean, the Michigan offense
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: looks a little bit better. It didn't look good on
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: Saturday because I think Indiana's defense is that good.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: You're saying their offense looks better on a day where
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: they scored six points, and it took them all of
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: regulation to get to six.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, they can't run the football against that
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: Indiana defense, but I don't know who is running the
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: football against the Indiana defense. The scary thing for Indiana
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: is how bad Josh Hoover looked.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: They threw one time in the second half. And it
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: was incomplete.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they have no confidence right now.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: They really don't. So I brought this up to Luganville.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: You may remember, I know you'll remember this game. The
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: year Michigan won the national championship under Jim Harbaugh, they
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: go to Penn State, and they did not throw the ball.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: With J.J. McCarthy, who's a starter in the NFL right now,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: didn't throw the ball for the whole second half. Do
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: you remember that? Yeah.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: They ran like a million times. I think it was
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: 16 straight.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, 16 straight runs in the second half. And I
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: remember saying, or maybe it was the whole fourth quarter,
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: or whatever, and I remember saying then, I don't know
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: if you can win the national championship if you don't
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: have enough trust in your quarterback to throw it at
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: least one time. Well, they did. It just feels different
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: with Josh Hoover. And this is a guy I thought
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: was going to be tremendous this year, but they really
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: don't have a ton of faith in him right now,
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: do they?
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: No, I don't think they do. And that is a
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: difficult place to play. I still will stand by it. Like,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: Michigan's offense is so bad, but their defense, especially in
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: Ann Arbor, is so good. I mean, we saw this
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: against Oklahoma. That defense won the game for them. The
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: defense almost won the game for Michigan this week.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, Indiana is living on that defense. They've got
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: two good receivers, and Klatt was even talking about it
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: in the game, and Gus, too. You have not heard
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: Marsh and Becker's name a lot today.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: I don't think Indiana's got another loss coming up, though,
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 2: do they? I think they have survived. I know they've
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: got USC, but it's in Bloomington.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I was about to say. You
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: think they're going to beat USC, don't you?
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 9: Oh, yeah.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: Okay. Indiana only remaining, you know, the game against Oregon
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: that they've got does not look as challenging as it
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: once did, right? No. Indiana has got, or no, they
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: don't play Oregon. I thought they played Oregon. No, here's
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: what they've got left. Minnesota, USC, at Washington, Purdue. Indiana's
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They lock their playoff chances in. 11-1. If they
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: win the Big Ten, they might be the number one
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: overall seed.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: They could be, and I don't think they're that good.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're the number one, but I don't
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: know who is.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: Right now, if Indiana played Miami, I would lean Indiana.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't feel great about it, but I.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: Would lean Indiana. But I mean, some of the offensive,
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: like they scored 15 in the lost Ohio. Here's their
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: offense over the last three weeks, and this is the
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: trend that is starting to worry about them, Lance. 20
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: and a win at Nebraska, where they could have easily
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: lost that game.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: Well, they had six points in the fourth quarter.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: Six points in the fourth quarter. 15 in the lost
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: Ohio State where they did lose the game at home,
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: and then 13 in overtime at Michigan. Their offense has been,
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: it's just they haven't been able to run the ball
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: effectively and Hoover hasn't played well. I guess those two
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: things are probably going hand in hand.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, look, and I think Turbo Richard and Lee Beebe
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: are pretty good running backs. Not what you got last
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: year from the running back position with Kalon Black back
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: there and Roman Hemby. But if this team had Fernando
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: Mendoza of last year, they would be undefeated. and and
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: they would be the number one team.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: And look they could if if if the pass is
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: more towards the middle of the field or marsh gets
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: a toe down they're undefeated right now yep and they beat.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: Ohio state it just it looks so different with this
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: team like i think their defense is airtight but you
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: just don't trust the offense right now and you know
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: unfortunately for charlie becker and nick marsh you know hoover's
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: just not playing at a high.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: Level because we've done this for everyone they play Minnesota
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: Saturday 230.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: CBS game They're 19 and a half point favorite.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I just don't see it. Minnesota.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 2: I heard Bo, our company president earlier today, like how
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: can they even score 19 points? Like why are they
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: laying 19 points? What did you immediately say?
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: I said, well, I know who Lance's play is now.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: It's the first thing you heard this week. That isn't all.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: It does feel like an awful high line with a
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: team that I just told you struggled to get to
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: 20 at Nebraska, only got to 15 against Ohio State
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: and could only score 13 in overtime against Michigan. 19
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: feels like an awful big number.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 10: It does.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, it does.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: And Minnesota coming off a big win over Iowa, perhaps
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: ruining Iowa's chances. So I don't know what you do
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: with that game, but that feels like an awful big
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: number to me, which probably tells you Indiana gets offense
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: right and scores about 40 in that game.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: I just wonder if somebody else is going to try
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: to draw the Bucky gopher again. All I got to
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: do is change the point spread. It's already right here,
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: haven't it?
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to do it. I don't know.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to rule it out, but I still
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: haven't erased last week's. Boy, that'd be a big one
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: if Minnesota could pull it off 19 and a half.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: Did you have another winner? Yeah, this is an outright winner.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: This was last week.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 11: This is the second time. I picked them as an
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 11: outright winner against Michigan earlier this year, too.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm pissed because I was coming to draw this,
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: and Brown knows it.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: I do. He saw my drawing.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: And I was like, I'm not going to do the
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: same thing. So I took North Dakota State, and I
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: think I lost by a half point or a point.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, still haven't erased it. I'm just going to hold it. Tyler,
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: can we see how it feels real quick? Hang on.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: Hang on, Tyler. Give me a second.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: You can't go into character. I'm confused. Yeah.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: You're confused about what?
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 15: What am I feeling?
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: You'll know. You'll know. I'm going to see how it feels.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: All right, here we go. Minnesota. I'm not in character.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: Minnesota at Indiana. 14 and a half points, but Tyler.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 9: We don't need them.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: We don't need them.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: You did not need them.
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: You did not need them. Yeah, I hate that you
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: drew that because that would have gotten me a win too, but.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: I don't really feel it right there. I don't think
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: I'm going that route.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: Well, it's not going to happen this week.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: It's not going to happen. I'm not going that route.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: Because there are so many definitive games that you can
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: look at and be like, there is no way. There
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: is no path to victory. I do think Miami-North Carolina
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: gets interesting. I don't want to draw that target.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: It's North Carolina. I know. But North Carolina, just when
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: we start talking about, hey, can North Carolina possibly beat Miami?
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: It could be an interesting game in Chapel Hill. What
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: else is in Chapel Hill? Oh, just a game against Syracuse.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: And what happened? They lost. They lost.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just, but it is not going to
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: stun me coming off a loss to Syracuse if Miami
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: is in the fight for their life.
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, coming off the loss to Syracuse, the way
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: Miami looked against Pitt, I mean, the public's going to
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: be laying this 14 and a half. They're going to
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 2: be all about the road favorite.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Was there a big game we didn't get to
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: before we go to the NFL in the next segment?
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: We got a whole other two hours coming up, so
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: we can always move to those two.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 2: UCLA is not a big game. Oklahoma, Mississippi State.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Camario, it feels like they brought them back too early,
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: doesn't it?
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Fluff came out and played well, but
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: at that point it was too late. Oklahoma gets up 16-0,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: and you thought with that defense with backup quarterback, they
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: had no shot. They made it interesting. I give Mississippi
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: State credit. They came back.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Oklahoma had to get first downs to
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: end the game, and they were able to do it
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: to their credit.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: And the surprising thing is Zach Garnett's defense right now.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma could not run the football coming into this game,
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: averaging just a little over 92 yards per game. They
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: go 184 on the ground on the road against Mississippi State.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: And Mateer wasn't awful. No, no, I thought Mateer.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: Actually probably played good. I should have said that.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 2: That is probably the best version of Mateer, completing 76%
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: of his passes. He didn't turn it over. Didn't do
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: a ton with the legs, but just enough, right at
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: four yards a carry.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, just a... Oklahoma's a team. I mean,
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: they're out of the playoffs. All they can do is
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: play spoiler moving forward. I forgot at first to hear
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: from Kurt Cignetti, just real quick, as we finish up
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: Indiana and Michigan. Here is the Indiana head coach. This
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: is the way, perhaps the question was asked, because this
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: is how Scott gives it to me. How involved is
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: he in working through problems with coordinators? Now, I don't
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: think they're saying you've got coordinator problems, but... Because they don't, right?
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, they've got respected coordinators.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: Very respected.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: With Shanahan and Haynes. Shanahan on offense, Haynes on defense.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: But they've got problems with what those coordinators are having
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: to produce, I guess is the best way of putting it.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: Why don't we just hear the Indiana coach talk about it?
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 13: Well, I felt like if we didn't screw it up
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 13: by turning the ball over on offense, we're making a
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 13: critical mistake once we got up 6-0. And I saw
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 13: what kind of game it was becoming, which I kind
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 13: of went into thinking it could be that kind of game,
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 13: that they'd have a hard time beating us. And we
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 13: almost screwed it up, you know, with the interception and
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 13: Daly jumping off sides on the dead cadence and a
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 13: few other things. And then at one point it looked
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 13: very improbable. And we found a way to kind of
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 13: swing it back in our favor. So, yeah, you know,
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 13: I was involved, but I wasn't loving what I was
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 13: seeing either.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 13: And there were a lot of discussions about Grant Wilson,
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 13: you know, and Josh Hoover in the second half because
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 13: Grant had a good week of practice. He's very capable.
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 13: He's big, strong, can run. And I think at the
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 13: end of the day, we felt like, you know, it's
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 13: been Josh's season. And even though he's not 100%, we
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 13: got to finish it out with him. And he responded.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 13: And he's only going to get better physically from here
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 13: on out.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: I know he's crediting it to injury, but it's not
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: entirely injury. I never thought we would be in a
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: situation where we're talking about benching Josh Hoover.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't either. I mean, I thought, you know,
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: it was going to be a downgrade from a guy
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 2: that won a Heisman Trophy. But I thought with his experience,
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: a fifth year guy that's got a ton of starts
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: under his belt at TCU, that it was going to
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: be an easy transition just based on the way that
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: offense moves. But I do believe, and we just went
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: through the schedule, they're going to end up 11-1, whether
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: they lose the Big Ten championship or not. Worst case,
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: they're hosting a first-round game. In this world of college football,
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 2: as crazy as this year has been, if Indiana is
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: able to pull off back-to-back national championships... I don't even
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 2: know how we could explain that.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: But I think going into it, like if the playoffs
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: started today, I mean. They'd be your favorite? They wouldn't
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: be your favorite. I think Georgia or Notre Dame would
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: probably be. Well, right now I know Georgia and Notre
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 2: Dame are co-favorites.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can grab some Alabama at 12-1 if
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 2: you're feeling that.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, why not? It's only going to go down from.
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: It's either going to be irrelevant after the LSU game
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: or drop. Considerably after the LSU game. This is the
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: only time you get it at 12-1, right?
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 2: No, I think it's still going to be 12. Even
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 2: if they were to beat LSU. If they beat LSU,
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: it's still 12-1. I still think it would be 12-1.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 3: How?
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: Look at the rest of that schedule.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's going to be a one-game situation. I
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: get the rest of the schedule, and they're going to
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  Speaker 2: get in the college football playoff, but.
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  Speaker 15: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how you make it shorter
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  Speaker 2: than that. I'm a little surprised it's 12th. Alabama, to me,
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  Speaker 2: looks like a 20-1 to win the national championship.
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  Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you. All right, we'll get to
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  Speaker 1: another nfl sunday behind us that was another fun one
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  Speaker 1: and probably not only the biggest story coming out of
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  Speaker 1: the nfl sunday but the biggest story in all of
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  Speaker 1: sports this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: The miami dolphins won and what does this do.
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  Speaker 1: What does it do for the Dolphins? Nothing.
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  Speaker 9: No.
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  Speaker 2: But I got to wear a shirt.
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  Speaker 1: I got to wear... Tyler was just asking me. Tyler
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  Speaker 1: said the people are asking, what happened to Victory Monday? Well,
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  Speaker 1: we hadn't had one in a while. Dolphins hadn't won
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  Speaker 1: in a while.
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  Speaker 2: So the 0-5 Dolphins coming to this game, getting outscored
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  Speaker 2: by an average of 12 points per game.
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  Speaker 1: Lance had not led all season.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They win. They convert three fourth downs in that game.
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  Speaker 2: They're three for three in the red zone since Aaron
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: Glenn took over. This is one of the more amazing stats.
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  Speaker 2: The Jets have been outscored 107-6 in the final two
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  Speaker 2: minutes of the first half. They have scored six points
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  Speaker 2: in the final two minutes of the first half in
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  Speaker 2: 24 games.
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  Speaker 1: That's stunning. Yeah. That really is.
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  Speaker 2: So Aaron Glenn is 5-19. He has absolutely no shot
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  Speaker 2: of keeping his job, and you just wonder if he's
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  Speaker 2: fired today.
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  Speaker 10: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think he's fired today? I think when we
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 2: see breaking news in the NFL, I don't think it's
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 2: going to be an injury. I think it's going to
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 2: be Aaron Glenn getting fired.
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  Speaker 1: I listened to the fan on the way to work
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  Speaker 1: today just for the enjoyment of it. They weren't going
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  Speaker 1: that far. Really? No. well you know Boomer played for
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: the Jets Boomer's friends with Frank Wright who's the offensive
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  Speaker 1: coordinator so I think Boomer's in a tough spot there
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  Speaker 1: but boy the fans were fed up they were ready to.
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  Speaker 2: Okay nobody cares about that game congratulations oh hey to
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  Speaker 2: your dolphins I think we need to put a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more love on Minnesota. They get down 7-0 right
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  Speaker 2: off the bat against the Colts, and then that defense
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  Speaker 2: completely shuts down. They are allowing 1.1 points per possession
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  Speaker 2: right now.
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  Speaker 1: You can kill the celebration music. Lance moved us on
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  Speaker 1: from that very quickly.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think anybody cares. Like, nobody cares about the
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  Speaker 2: Dolphins right now.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we've talked Rams.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody. Well, that was the super team. Rams for years.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody cared about them.
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  Speaker 2: But according to analytics, this Minnesota defense is a top-10
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  Speaker 2: best-performing defense through six games over the last 20 years.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they've got no offense, Lance. No offense, but they're undefeated,
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  Speaker 1: which tells you what Brian Flores is doing with that defense.
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  Speaker 1: yeah well i mean it's got to catch up to
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  Speaker 1: him at some point though right you can't keep doing
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  Speaker 1: this you would.
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  Speaker 2: Think i did think the offense you know took a
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: step in the right direction two weeks ago they took
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  Speaker 2: a step back yesterday but they still found a way
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  Speaker 2: to get it done with defense they're six and oh right.
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  Speaker 17: Now which one remaining undefeated yeah the only one yeah
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  Speaker 17: i mean it may be i mean have you have
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 17: you had them in your power ratings yet in the
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 17: top five okay so.
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  Speaker 2: You've done that yeah i finally had them in last week.
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  Speaker 1: Finally last week it took a while for you to
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  Speaker 1: get them.
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  Speaker 2: In yeah um You know, that wasn't obviously a surprise.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they were obviously favored in that game. But Atlanta,
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  Speaker 2: I think a lot of people were surprised by that.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 2: Atlanta was one of my big plays yesterday. I loved
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 2: Atlanta all week. They give San Francisco their first loss.
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  Speaker 2: It didn't look great early on. But, man, you know,
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  Speaker 2: when Atlanta's playing their best, dangerous team.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, when they get everything together, it's what we thought
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  Speaker 1: they could be. Now, they've had the issue of Penix
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: being injured. Tua is cooked as a quarterback. So if
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: you have to go to Tua... You know, you're just dead.
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  Speaker 1: But with all those offensive weapons, we thought if you
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: could just get average play out of Michael Penix, it's
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 1: a good team.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and to be able to beat an undefeated San
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: Francisco as an underdog by almost double digits, and Bijon
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 2: only has 63 rushing yards, you know, they found a
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  Speaker 2: way to get it done through the air. Penix had
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 2: a really, really nice game as far as, like, There
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  Speaker 2: were a couple of misthrows late. They just needed a
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  Speaker 2: couple of first downs, and that game was way over.
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  Speaker 1: And San Francisco gave you three turnovers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that was huge.
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  Speaker 1: On the road, you turned over three times. Probably not
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  Speaker 1: going to beat anybody.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is just one of those leagues that, I
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: guess much like college football... You can't just say, OK,
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  Speaker 2: they're on the road against Atlanta. They're going to win this.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. You can't. And I told people all along
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: back to the Dolphins real quick, you can keep picking
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: them in the survivor pools if you want. And I
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: doubt many people had taken the the Jets in a
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: survivor pool. You'd be an idiot to unless that was
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: your last option.
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  Speaker 2: That would be a Jimmy Landmine move.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you could keep picking against the Dolphins. They're
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: eventually going to win one. And that's just the NFL.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: Weird game was Ravens-Bingles, big divisional game. Ravens up 13-0
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: at the half. The Bingles look fried, and they scored
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: 35 second-half points. You know, not a great day yesterday,
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: 2-2-1 at Lance's Log.
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  Speaker 2: But I did have the Ravens, and when they go
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 2: up 13, I felt really good about that. Like, how
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: is Snoop Huntley going to play? Well, Joe Burrow gets
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 2: shut out in the first half. He said that Jamar
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 2: Chase came in and peeled some paint in the locker
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 2: room at halftime. And, boy, they came out. They responded. T.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 2: Higgins had a hell of a game. That was surprising
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 2: that it got away from Baltimore. Not that they lost
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 2: the game, but they lost the game going away. Yeah.
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: You could have scored 35 to nothing in the second half.
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  Speaker 2: I thought the biggest surprise all of yesterday was Tampa.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield back in the lineup. They win by 30
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  Speaker 2: on the road in Carolina.
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  Speaker 1: Had a 26-point second quarter.
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  Speaker 2: Well, this is how this happens in the NFL. You
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  Speaker 2: cannot turn the football over. When you're minus four, that's
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: exactly what Carolina was yesterday. That's how you get curb stomped.
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 2: with Baker Mayfield having to do nothing. It was 7-11,
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  Speaker 2: 64 yards.
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  Speaker 1: I was about to ask you, if I had told
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: you Baker Mayfield throws for 64 yards, you would have thought, God,
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: how bad did the Panthers beat them?
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 2: No, but if you would have said, you know what, though,
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 2: Tampa's going to rush for 258 over five yards, the
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: carryout would have been like, okay, they've got a fight shot.
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  Speaker 2: And then Bryce turns it over a couple of times.
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  Speaker 2: But that was, to me, the biggest surprise. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Tampa Bay, a dog winning the game by 30.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Lions-Packers, this is another game. We've talked about this in...
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: the college portion that Tennessee fans are upset with the
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: officiating in their game. Apparently Packers fans are as well.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't get a ton of a chance. I was
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  Speaker 1: coming back from a soccer game for my daughter during
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 1: the late window. So I didn't get a ton of
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  Speaker 1: a chance to watch this game 20 to 17. I
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  Speaker 1: know you were focused on your Rams.
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  Speaker 2: I had it all though. I was watching it.
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  Speaker 1: Did you see anything that was just like crazy on
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: the officiating? I mean, I've seen a lot of that.
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: I guess I need to go look at penalty numbers
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: because I don't, I don't know why people would be
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  Speaker 1: saying the Packers got a screw job out of the
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: officials in this one.
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  Speaker 2: Well, they they got a screw job out of the
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 2: officials week one against Minnesota. And I think that is
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  Speaker 2: carried over with this this Packer fan base.
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  Speaker 8: Right.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I mean, look, this is eight penalties, 81
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: yards to five for 50 for Detroit.
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  Speaker 2: I did think that Green Bay's defense did a hell
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: of a job limiting Detroit to 20 points.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the Packers team's very, very good. Again, that
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: whole division is really good. So that was not a
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: surprise outcome. I stayed away from that game. I didn't
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: touch it.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: It's not just performative for you. You really thought your
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: Rams were potentially in trouble, and boy, they were not.
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  Speaker 1: That was a beatdown.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: I just can't believe the injuries. I really cannot believe
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 2: how banged up this team. Nate Lambin didn't play yesterday
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: with a concussion. Puka almost didn't play. But they went
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 2: out and they got back to the basics. And I
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: think McVay is still making these guys believe internally. I mean,
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 2: this team realistically, and this is, I think you would agree,
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: they should be 5-2. The Josh Wallace pick against Denver,
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 2: they should have beaten the Cardinals. They should be 5-2.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 2: They're not. They're 3-4. The injuries are a massive concern.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 2: But the way they responded yesterday and the way both
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 2: Kyron Williams and Blake Corham ran the football with the
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: Rams going 199 on the ground. got back to play-action pass,
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 2: opening things up for Stafford. Stafford had a really nice,
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: efficient game, 23 of 29, had the three touchdowns and
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 2: the one pick. That was a pretty dominant performance. The
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: game didn't indicate it because Vegas got that late two-point
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 2: conversion and touchdown, but I thought the Rams played... That
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: might have been their best game of the year. I
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 2: think it was.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. The night game last night, I thought
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: about you immediately. I don't know if you watched the
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: pregame show, but I got home from my daughter's soccer game.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 1: Did not. Turned on the pregame show, and they have
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: somebody that does, I don't even know who their sponsor is,
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: the Daily Fantasy stuff. But they do their biggest Daily
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: Fantasy play of that game, and they're like the one
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: the fans are the most on. And last night it
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 1: was Patrick Mahomes over 200 pass yards. And he goes,
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: that's the one that the most people are on. The
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: public really likes Patrick Mahomes over 200 pass yards. And
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: they go back to the desk and Maria Taylor and
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin. They're like, boy, that does seem easy. Patrick
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: Mahomes get 200 pass yards. I was like, well, Patrick
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: Mahomes about to have a crap night. And boy, did he.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 2: Well, I did have Seattle. It was maybe my favorite
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: game of the day. I was on Visa again on
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: Saturday morning and the host. Asked me, you know, we
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 2: went through more college football. And then he said, you know,
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 2: I know you guys are red hot in the NFL.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: If you've got one play, what is it? And I
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: was like, Seattle minus the points in Lumen. I think
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 2: this is going to be a really difficult spot for
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: Pat Mahomes. And he was like, man, but you know
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 2: about Pat Mahomes and Andy Reid, you know, coming off
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 2: this bye. And I was like, I don't care.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: I don't care.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: And they completely dominated. I mean, what a terrible game.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: They got back to doing what they did last year
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: en route to winning a Super Bowl, and that was
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: running the football. Kenneth Walker comes in. His Kansas City low,
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: only 36 carries.
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 1: Nine factor.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: And what you believe was going to be a revenge
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: game for him. But Emmanuel Wilson showing up for the Seahawks.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 2: They're doing it with backup running backs. But 153 yards
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 2: on the ground, they will take that week in and
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: week out.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: So wild. Real quick, Brooks, we've only got one minute. No,
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: we've only got 30 seconds. I'll voice it. Brooks gave
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: me this stat. The Titans, who lost. Have not won
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: back-to-back games since 2022. And they didn't yesterday. They lost
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: to the Browns.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 2: I believe that.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 17: Yeah.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: 2022, though. That's a long time. That's a long time.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: They have not won back-to-back games. All right. That's going
• 1:46:40
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• 1:46:42
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• 1:46:48
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