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Ep. 111 | Carving an Evil Clown Pumpkin & Living With A Demonic Entity Josh's Stor · Weeknight Mysteries Podcast

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  Speaker 1: As some of you might know, I've been on holiday
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  Speaker 1: for the last two weeks, so I haven't been able
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  Speaker 1: to work on any recordings, I wanted to make some
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  Speaker 1: kind of Halloween special, but there wasn't time for that,
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  Speaker 1: however I did get home in time to make my
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  Speaker 1: Halloween pumpkin. So I thought I would video myself making
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  Speaker 1: it and share it with you on here. With all
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  Speaker 1: the scary clown news that's been going on in the
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  Speaker 1: run up to Halloween, there was only one choice of
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  Speaker 1: design really. A scary killer clown, Gappalandin. So enjoy the
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  Speaker 1: recording and have a good Halloween. Hopefully I should be
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  Speaker 1: getting back to making a proper video sometime soon. So
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  Speaker 1: here's the finished product. I think it looks quite spooky
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  Speaker 1: once it's got a candle inside it, and I think
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  Speaker 1: it'll give some trickle treat as a fright tonight. Hopefully
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  Speaker 1: I should be getting back to making a proper video
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  Speaker 1: sometime soon. Today's guest is Josh. If you saw my
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  Speaker 1: viewer submissions video, you might remember I briefly covered this story,
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  Speaker 1: but I felt like it needed a more detailed interview
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  Speaker 1: to get the full story. To give you the TLDR version,
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  Speaker 1: Josh and his family had some very strange experiences, mostly
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  Speaker 1: revolving around an apartment they lived in in North Carolina.
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  Speaker 1: Before this apartment block was built, there was a house
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  Speaker 1: there where the Hurt family lived. In the 90s, this
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  Speaker 1: house burnt down, killing the entire family except for one
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  Speaker 1: son who wasn't home at the time. This has some
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  Speaker 1: relation to Josh's story, and I just wanted to give
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  Speaker 1: that little bit of backstory just in case people hadn't
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  Speaker 1: seen the first video just to get them up to speed.
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  Speaker 1: So without further ado, this is Josh's story in his
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  Speaker 1: own words. So we should probably just start at the
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  Speaker 1: beginning then. I'd like, when did you first move into
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  Speaker 1: the property or when did like when did it first start? Well,
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  Speaker 1: the first bit was started within the FIRT. We moved
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  Speaker 1: in January of 2005, and I didn't know anything about
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  Speaker 1: the any of the backstory and nothing like that. I'd
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  Speaker 1: only been in North Carolina myself about seven or eight
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  Speaker 1: months prior to that. The reason I moved North Carolina
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  Speaker 1: because I was a teenager and I had been bad
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  Speaker 1: off and drugged at point like I, when my senior
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  Speaker 1: year in high school where I should have been in school,
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  Speaker 1: I had already dropped out and I committed myself to
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  Speaker 1: a job where you have placed down in the dust.
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  Speaker 1: like I was in a real bad way. And I
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  Speaker 1: had got myself clean and to get away and get
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  Speaker 1: a first start from all down there, I just had
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  Speaker 1: an opportunity and I moved out to the board for
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  Speaker 1: the first time I've never seen before. I never heard
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  Speaker 1: of it before. Just went up there and about a
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  Speaker 1: month after being up there, that's the one I had
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  Speaker 1: met my ex. Right. And we had started dating and
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  Speaker 1: stuff in a couple of weeks after I found out
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  Speaker 1: she was pregnant. And so we were staying with different friends,
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  Speaker 1: Koutso and everything. And then right before she again birthed
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  Speaker 1: about a month beforehand, there was an opening in the
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  Speaker 1: place called Holy Press, which is government housing or whatever
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't. I mean, I really bad or not that.
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  Speaker 1: I opened and popped up so we had someone to
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  Speaker 1: stay with. After a couple of weeks we got in there,
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  Speaker 1: like we would hear random little scratching and stuff would
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  Speaker 1: hear like a woman whispering in another room. But more
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  Speaker 1: or less we would see just like very faint little
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  Speaker 1: orbs and like the living room and the kitchen and
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  Speaker 1: everything else. Like very, very faint. But you could see
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  Speaker 1: it in the light. It wasn't this area in the dark.
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  Speaker 1: But we would just see random things like that. Every
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  Speaker 1: time we would take pictures of kids, any kid, whether
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  Speaker 1: it was our kids, our nieces and nephews and everything else,
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  Speaker 1: it would never show up in adult. Adult pictures and
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  Speaker 1: only kids. We would see all kinds of orbs, all
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  Speaker 1: kinds like fresh colored black, blue, green. One of them
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  Speaker 1: was like a weird, fresh colored hexagon or that my
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  Speaker 1: niece took two pictures within like five seconds of each other.
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  Speaker 1: This is like an old disposable camera she just got.
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  Speaker 1: I triggered a finger. In these two pictures, you see
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  Speaker 1: the oil flying from the baby carrier toward the mom
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  Speaker 1: and then not even like I said, 95 seconds there,
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  Speaker 1: it's gone. But it's a perfect hexagon, like a peach
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  Speaker 1: color with like a fuzzy trail, kind of like a
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  Speaker 1: comet just leaving from there and going to her mom.
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  Speaker 1: And like there's no dust or anything else in the picture.
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  Speaker 1: There's no lights or nothing. It's just three people sitting
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  Speaker 1: on a futon and the baby in between her legs.
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  Speaker 1: But as time progressed, like when my kids started reaching
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  Speaker 1: close to the age of the other twins from that family, like, well,
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  Speaker 1: there's around five or six of them. They'd top off
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  Speaker 1: my head. But all of my kids got and everything else.
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  Speaker 1: Every single time I would ever take a picture or
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  Speaker 1: shoot a video or something like I would shoot recordings
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  Speaker 1: before or near a younger adult glitch out or blank
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  Speaker 1: out and everything pictures would just have streaks or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: There would be random faces that would appear on the wall.
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  Speaker 1: There was one picture in particular that was kind of
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  Speaker 1: spooky or whatever. My daughter she was almost 3 at
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  Speaker 1: the time and she had a pink wig on. And
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  Speaker 1: behind her is an entertainment set where I had a PS2,
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  Speaker 1: a Makini V and everything else. It behind the PS2
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  Speaker 1: are both like the left hand shoulder of my daughter
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  Speaker 1: in the picture against the wall. It's like a perfect
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  Speaker 1: skull out on with like a suit. You see up
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  Speaker 1: here on the wall. Yeah, remember you tell me about
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  Speaker 1: a picture of a skull in the background. And I
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  Speaker 1: didn't even notice it initially because I didn't ever I
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  Speaker 1: got the pictures about and everything later on and was
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  Speaker 1: able to see it. But that was about like two
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  Speaker 1: or three weeks later. Right. Everything. This is all again,
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  Speaker 1: all the majority of this has happened before 2010. Now,
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  Speaker 1: all the like again, as things dress like on, right
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  Speaker 1: to be what happened were like a bright bright light.
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  Speaker 1: I mean like flashlight bright would appear mostly in the
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  Speaker 1: living room and dance around the cocktails near the ceiling.
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  Speaker 1: And it wouldn't matter whether it's nighttime daytime people there
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  Speaker 1: knowing there or whatever it would appear danced around doing
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  Speaker 1: figure eights and were going around within like a six
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  Speaker 1: seven foot block and just disappear. And at night while
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  Speaker 1: I was sitting against the wall and I'd be woken
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  Speaker 1: up with like there's weird usually keep it dark and
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  Speaker 1: everything else. I was baked up with either a baby
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  Speaker 1: boo or like a safety cone orange light that was
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  Speaker 1: part about this a little bit bigger in size of
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  Speaker 1: a softball would appear right against the wall where it
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  Speaker 1: was so bright, I could put a hand near to it.
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  Speaker 1: And the light would refer back to my hand. It
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  Speaker 1: would appear traced from my head all the way down
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  Speaker 1: my feet, going slow and it would just fade off
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  Speaker 1: into nothing. Was it like a flat against the wall
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  Speaker 1: or was it like a flat? Yeah, it was just
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  Speaker 1: like somebody was to take a flashlight about 6 inches
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  Speaker 1: away from the wall and turn it on. It couldn't
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  Speaker 1: be a reflection of some of the other things. There's
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  Speaker 1: no other right or anything. Right. Very first time it
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  Speaker 1: footed me out by I'm really cutting the damn light on,
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  Speaker 1: I wrote my life up and I'm like, hey, there's
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  Speaker 1: some type of light going on here. So I went
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  Speaker 1: cut on everything to those kinds of against the wall.
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  Speaker 1: Was it like, you know, cell phone or something. And
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  Speaker 1: after about 15, 20 minutes, I was just like, I
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  Speaker 1: was out of explanation or anything trying to debunk it. Right.
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  Speaker 1: But this occurred every day all day for about 6,
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  Speaker 1: 7 months, mostly in the bedroom. Now over the course
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  Speaker 1: of time, we stayed at these apartment, stayed at the
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  Speaker 1: apartment and everything. We would have different friends and everything
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  Speaker 1: that had different circumstances that needed to stay at our
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  Speaker 1: place for whether it's a couple weeks a month or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: We just like had it pull out and livers like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you can say we don't mind. You know, we want
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  Speaker 1: to steal into our kids that if someone ever needs help,
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  Speaker 1: you help them out. Do one to others have to
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  Speaker 1: one you. And so we're just given the warning light, hey,
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  Speaker 1: you can stay in all that. We don't have no problem.
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  Speaker 1: But we just want to let you know this place
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  Speaker 1: is haunted. Like, what do you mean? I'm like, no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: this place is haunted by you. You're going to find
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  Speaker 1: out on your own. Don't believe me. It will happen
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  Speaker 1: to you. Well, within three days of, wherever they'll come
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  Speaker 1: up to meet Bug, I'd need anything like Josh. I
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  Speaker 1: was trying to sleep and something gave my hair. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what was going on. But yeah, and then
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  Speaker 1: I saw that light. You were talking about my poetry. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I heard tapping and McEachin and stuff. Well, one day about,
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  Speaker 1: I want to say it was August of 2008. I
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  Speaker 1: was in the liver room, coincidentally watching Ghost of Entries
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  Speaker 1: and my wife was in the bedroom and she was
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  Speaker 1: doing something. I think she was watching True Blood or
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  Speaker 1: something like that. I can't exactly remember. But I'm the
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  Speaker 1: only one in the liver of my kids. They're asleep
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  Speaker 1: and everything else is about not dirty. I have a
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  Speaker 1: little glass astray sitting in front of me and I'm
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  Speaker 1: sitting in the Indian style and forth. And I'm trying
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  Speaker 1: to smoke cigarette. I put my cigarette in this button
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  Speaker 1: ash and I'll rip down and it's constantly with them.
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  Speaker 1: It flips out at me. And I was like, wait
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  Speaker 1: a minute. Is that a bug? You know, I get up.
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  Speaker 1: I empty a stray. There's nothing there. There's nothing. I'll
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  Speaker 1: spider inside that. I put my cigarette down and the
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  Speaker 1: TV is just background on this point. So as I
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  Speaker 1: put it in there, within a couple of seconds it
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  Speaker 1: starts flicking, wiggling back and forth. It flies that astray again.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, uh, terror. That's my question. The terror. Come
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  Speaker 1: in here for a minute. You got to see this.
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  Speaker 1: I'll put this to go back down in the astray. Aha.
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  Speaker 1: I'll put the second say, I'll start swirly and it
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  Speaker 1: flies into the astray. I do it again. I put
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  Speaker 1: this over and over and over and during the last
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  Speaker 1: time it flipped upon my leg and I might hold
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  Speaker 1: up the, we're not, you're not trying to burn me now. But, uh,
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  Speaker 1: like within a couple of weeks, I could sit something
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  Speaker 1: down like most of us like ash, rays, or lighter,
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  Speaker 1: something I would sit on the TV stand, liver. and
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  Speaker 1: we could be in another room or whatever and we
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  Speaker 1: could just sit and watch it starting to slide across
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  Speaker 1: and fly off onto the floor. Nothing around, nobody around
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  Speaker 1: and all that. Well, was it, was it like any
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  Speaker 1: of the things on the table at the same time? Well, different.
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  Speaker 1: There would be most, there would be all kinds of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: We have like different statues and stuff like that, but
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  Speaker 1: it would only focus for to back up. I want
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  Speaker 1: for tobacco and that's why like here once I'll see
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  Speaker 1: certain things. I wanted to know more about the story,
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  Speaker 1: but I didn't have enough detail because for some reason
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  Speaker 1: my sister all, she, me and her but heads, a lot.
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  Speaker 1: All the info I had to get was like second
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  Speaker 1: hand through my wife whenever she was able to bring
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  Speaker 1: it up in conversation being around it. So I've pieced
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  Speaker 1: in all this together for the majority of the whole story.
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  Speaker 1: where I found out about the father had died while
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  Speaker 1: smoking and everything else and had twins and everything. This
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  Speaker 1: was the, the, the thing that was, was it on
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  Speaker 1: the same site as the apartment we lived or just
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  Speaker 1: behind it? Well, see, this is built on a hill
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  Speaker 1: behind a factory. At the bottom of the hill at
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  Speaker 1: the entrance is the playground where it used to be
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  Speaker 1: a Bluetooth storehouse where the family stay at. And when
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  Speaker 1: these apartments were first built, the apartment that we had
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  Speaker 1: happened to be the grandparents of the little boy that
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  Speaker 1: happened to survive. And I mean, this part might sound
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  Speaker 1: like it's part of a movie or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm telling you 100% everything I tell you is 100% true. Well,
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  Speaker 1: my goal is to all of a friend from high school,
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  Speaker 1: I brought him up north from everything a couple years
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  Speaker 1: before and he was doing the landscaping work and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And one day he calls me and he's like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I got this guy. He's pretty cool. And I'm bringing
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  Speaker 1: him over to your house and everything else. You know, Mondeo,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm like, I don't care. Let's go. I'm
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  Speaker 1: bringing a six pack and everything will watch TV and
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  Speaker 1: everything is fine. Well, the kid, the guy comes over
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  Speaker 1: to his side 22 at the time and stuff. He
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  Speaker 1: comes in and he is so completely on edge. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: like hostile on edge, right? He's like anybody looking at him.
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  Speaker 1: Not even mean just happening in this direction. He's ready
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  Speaker 1: to jump and fight and everything. And my buddy goes
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  Speaker 1: takes him outside and so I thought I was starting
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  Speaker 1: to go see what was going on. And he's like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: do you want to go? You want to go? I
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  Speaker 1: don't even know you and so. And he said, They
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  Speaker 1: just started taking off walking these helping and puffing. It
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  Speaker 1: comes back. My buddy, but ending comes back about 20 minutes.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't say the guy got a ride and everything.
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  Speaker 1: But he's saying during the walk that he really wanted
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  Speaker 1: to apologize to me because he didn't mean at all
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  Speaker 1: to be hostile or anything. He just, he didn't know
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  Speaker 1: that he thought I knew about the whole story because
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  Speaker 1: that he was a little boy. He was the only
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  Speaker 1: survivor of all that going on. And like, I had
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  Speaker 1: no idea about it and everything else. He was to
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  Speaker 1: say he never came back or talking me again. But
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  Speaker 1: there's nothing I did. I was being completely hospitable on everything.
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  Speaker 1: It's just if I was in this shoes, I'd be
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  Speaker 1: it's completely understandable. I totally get it. And how do you,
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  Speaker 1: how do you mention to him about the ponds and
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  Speaker 1: not anything while he was there? Well, while he was there.
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  Speaker 1: He just, he kept looking around and looking behind him
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  Speaker 1: and everything else. And he was just constantly fidgeting. I
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  Speaker 1: know he wasn't on drugs. I know he wasn't drunk.
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  Speaker 1: He was completely sober because they just got literally off
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  Speaker 1: the job. They just happened to come by see what
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  Speaker 1: I was in a see me and kids and everything else.
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  Speaker 1: And he just was on complete edge. I guess he
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  Speaker 1: felt somebody was watching or whatever else, which I can.
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  Speaker 1: I get what he's saying because around 2 that the,
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  Speaker 1: when I'm Christmas 2008, you know, 2009, that's when the
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  Speaker 1: figures started showing up. And it was a no particular
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  Speaker 1: family member. It was what I believe the shadow person
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  Speaker 1: that stayed on his hill right beside the apartment where
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  Speaker 1: all the apartments, there's 5 of them lined up all
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  Speaker 1: on the base. And now my apartment is at the bottom.
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  Speaker 1: But every single person in the apartment is along the
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  Speaker 1: base all had the same experience with the shadow guy.
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  Speaker 1: We especially had it because the family are to being there.
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  Speaker 1: It's like the shadow thing drew energy off the family,
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  Speaker 1: which the family was there seeing my twins just thinking
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  Speaker 1: that side them. And there was constantly stuff going on.
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  Speaker 1: But around Christmas, what was it? 2009, they're usually a shadow,
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  Speaker 1: a shadow figure about my height. I'm six foot. That
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  Speaker 1: would appear kind of peeking in and windows and stuff
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  Speaker 1: peeking in through doors. And whenever I would leave to
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  Speaker 1: go to work, which I was working third shift at
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  Speaker 1: the grocery store at time, this figure would like to
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  Speaker 1: look like me. How I used to look when I
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  Speaker 1: worked at a seafood restaurant with a white shirt, food jeans,
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  Speaker 1: and a black hat, like a black fisherman hat, and
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  Speaker 1: over the walk by, doorways, and everything else, which my
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  Speaker 1: wife would think, oh, Josh is home. Hey, Josh, you don't,
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  Speaker 1: and just watch. She'd get up. And this hallway is
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  Speaker 1: only about maybe three feet wide at night, just ingenuous.
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  Speaker 1: It comes straight from everyone makes it L shape and
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  Speaker 1: goes directly to a bathroom. And by the time you
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't hear any footsteps, you just see a solid figure
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  Speaker 1: look just like me, watch the bathroom. And it looks
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  Speaker 1: like a previous version of you, like, from a previous.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, kind of like it, it was kind of
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  Speaker 1: like it was trying to mimic me, but it couldn't
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  Speaker 1: quite get it right. I mean, while we're at this
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  Speaker 1: seafood restaurant, I wear white shirts and boot shoes all
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  Speaker 1: the time, that as well as required. While I was
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  Speaker 1: working at this grocery store to begin with, we had
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  Speaker 1: a white shirt we'd have to wear by that wear
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  Speaker 1: a tan pants, then they switched to black. But I
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  Speaker 1: never had a hat like that at the time. It
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  Speaker 1: would just appear solid. Solid as anything else. They wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: make any sound. Aaron, it would move with way quicker
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  Speaker 1: than I can move. Like, you would see it for
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  Speaker 1: maybe a 1-2 seconds and it was gone. And you
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  Speaker 1: could sit in the river with the kitchen light on,
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  Speaker 1: watching TV or talking to friends and stuff. And you
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  Speaker 1: could see shadows of a man or woman. Right, looking
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  Speaker 1: like they were talking, you could see the shadows against
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  Speaker 1: the wall and on the forward. No one, there's nobody
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  Speaker 1: in the kitchen. There's no sound being made. And except
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  Speaker 1: for like, random, like covered or something like they're looking
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  Speaker 1: for something. but you could see them animated and talking
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  Speaker 1: to each other. But by the time you go into
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  Speaker 1: the kitchen is completely ice cold. There's nothing in there.
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  Speaker 1: Can you have a hear it or is it just
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  Speaker 1: like a shadow that you could see? You would see
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  Speaker 1: two shadows, but you could hear Kevin's opening his shirt
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  Speaker 1: and not like, like or something like that is like
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  Speaker 1: they were talking trying to find something to have him like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we look over here. Look over there. Everyone said, wow, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, you couldn't ever hear what they were saying.
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  Speaker 1: But you could see them talking. And this wasn't like
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: a one-off thing. You would at least see this about three, four,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: sometimes five days a week. And again, as Tom Warpath riffed,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: things could get more and more pronounced to whatever. One day,
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: I think it's like spring of 2009. Same friend Brandon
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: had came by. I'd already been sitting at a house
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: all day. And I was watching something on the internet
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: or whatever, but I had a big executive desk chair
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: in my bedroom at Tom. I was leaning back and
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: my friend Brandon was staying in the doorway. And there's
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: a good 5 foot gap in between it's abuse texting
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: on all the foot phones. And I'm leaning back and everything,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: watching TV. And it feels like a cold wet finger
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: clicks me on the back and neck. I instantly wipe
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: back my neck. I'm like, what the hell, man. I
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: go back at him. He's staring at his phone, his
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: hands are together and he's sitting there like, huh? What
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: are you talking about? Did you just not flip back
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: my neck? No, man. Why would I do that? I'm like,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: if it was just like you lick your finger and
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: slide it back in my neck. No, I didn't do that.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: You see I'm texting here. I'm like, I started getting
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: cold chills and everything else. And yeah, just like women
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: because that didn't feel like a little like wind blowing
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: the red effort. I felt like flesh. I was like, okay,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: then there's nothing like that. It happened up to that point.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: But then knocking and scratching was all those daily currents
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: at this point. Water would come on, fights come on,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: things like that. Can't tap. Yeah, just like river, not
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: in three, it's just I mean, like I thought you said,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: like water would go on like water. Yeah, yeah. Yeah,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: why would come on? Like in either in the bathroom,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: the shower. Yeah, sorry, I should have said false. It's
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: in England. But yeah, I mean, this what happened again,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: more possessively as the kids go or nothing would ever
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: happen to the kids. Like, then scratch it start peering
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: on us, just like random one scratch, whoever. And at first,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: we all it wasn't like anything again in pairs of three,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: but it's not yet. It'll just be like one scratch
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: on our back on a leg, it's on that. And
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: we wipe it with this and we're just taking it
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: to ourselves, okay, we must just scratch ourselves in a
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: story with each year or something. Didn't ever put two
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: and two together. But then, like doors that would have,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: we would be in a room, a door would randomly
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: same shut, we can't open. And we're stepping in a room.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: And it's just like, we go, like someone. it feels
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: like someone standing outside the doorknob and holding it where
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: you can't move it for about 5 to 10 seconds.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: And it was like, oh, you didn't, everything's fine here.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: I was like, it's playing mind games. But also, I
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: think this was the shadow being that was in the
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: one picture behind Bubbo. No, Bubbo was my cousin or
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: all and my wife's actual boy cousin. And two years
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: after the one picture was taken with the shadow thing,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: he had died of a overdose shooting a fentanyl patches
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: in a closet. Aha, that a friend's house, which at
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: the time, he was already dabbing with a lot of
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: drugs and not letting anybody know everybody was completely and
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: darkened all of it. But from what I've been gathering
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: and doing research and everything over years, by any negative
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: energy or entity can pick up off of a negative
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: vibe or energy or some of the any self-struction. Yeah,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I was about to feed off that. So how long
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: how long into the, like, how long had you been
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: living there before the photo with Bubbo? Okay, so he
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: had been there. This was August of 2009. And we
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: were complete, we were gone. I want to say to
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Henderson till that day, he was just had came by
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: before we left. Henderson was about 40 miles west to
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: where we stand. He happened to just stay there that
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: they want to take a shower and everything to get
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: ready for the naked himself. And the phone he was
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: using at Tom was a little slider, Samsung phone. And
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: he was just standing in front of the hallway sink,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: which he was a big guy. He's about 280 to
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: 190 pounds. Short stocky guy kind of looking like butter
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: being with him. So behind him, was not even 6 inches.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: He just wanted to take a quick picture of him
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: after he shared it for on his Facebook. Just like, hey,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: ladies look at me. He takes the picture and that
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: shadow thing is right behind him. It wigs him completely
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: out because he knows there's nothing else there. We've told
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: him about the place being haunted and they've seen a
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: couple of things, but he was so absolutely petrified of
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: the concept he never wanted to talk about. He just figured, okay,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: if I don't talk about it, it's not real. But
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: it takes the picture and he comes at me and
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: he's white, past you white. Look at this man. Look
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: at it. I'm like, hold up. I take it on
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: my computer. I run through a few favorite programs, adjusting
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: to brightness and black and white and everything else I
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: could do. And it's there. And I send it to
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: a few people across the United States for them too
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: and we think of some people in Texas, California, Minnesota, Florida.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: Just to see what their opinion was and everything else.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: I gave them a little bit backstory and they're just
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: like that was there. That's real. It's not where our
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: fact because all the information from his little, you know,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: sire phone was in there and it wasn't like this.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: He had a lot of stuff to work with, you
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, I couldn't have been there.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: How did he know anything like that? This is again, he,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: the phone he had was like cutting edge to him.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: He had no reason to do all I'm trying to
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: fake this or whatever else. He just took picture and
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: it wigged him out. Well, we started ragging him about
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: the picture because at this time, drag me to hell
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: just came out and we were peeking at him like, oh,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: bubbles go on. It's falling around. It's falling around. He's like,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: shut up. Just shut up and ain't real. Two weeks
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: after that picture, We were just sitting around with drunk
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: cup beers and everything and I mentioned to him, alright, hey,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: did you know you can capture a beam of a
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: TV remote in your phone? He's like, well, no, you can't.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I see this infrared light. I bet
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: you we can stand in front of the mirror. I
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: can hit the button. Maybe both of us smoke into
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: the path of it. We can probably take a picture
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: of it in the hallway. He's like, oh, yeah, let's
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: try that. And like I said, I'm six foot. He's
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: five foot eight. And when we're standing there, he take
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: we take about three or four pictures. But the one
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: picture of interest is the one thing where it looks
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: just like my head, but at an unnatural angle. We
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: have those there's no step still on the eye that
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: where he'd be at I would have had to completely
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: crank my neck. And you would have seen with it
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: being enhanced. And so if you would have seen some
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: like my shoulder, my shirt, hands, something in the picture,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: you don't it's just my face with no eyes. Yeah,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: with bubble, we both wear glasses. But when you blow
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: it up, you can still see eyes, you know, I'm
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: saying it's not black holes, a black socket by picture
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: me was. I don't know. I really don't know why
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: it wanted to choose a little like me for some reason.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: It just did. And I'm not talking about strange. Like
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: that was this preferred world. Whenever it wanted to show
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: the stuff that some people would have ever held. Well, anyway,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: prefer a little bit. And I just said we've gotten
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: like scratches on ourselves. The light started coming back. We
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: would see big words, not like pictures, but seen with
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: our naked eyes. Again, not like, it doesn't matter if
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: we have friends over family. by ourselves day night, whatever
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: we'd see like orbs from the size of a golf
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: ball or to a basketball, just move around corners, go
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: up to the sea, down to the fore, just dance
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: around in different rooms or in and include here whispering
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: coming from corners and all this constantly. And at the
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: same time, we already I dealing with our own issues
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: with work and stuff. And we had me and my
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: wife had been arguing by nonstop like custom fighting in everything.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: And it was adding it on. Like we were getting
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: fights over the most ridiculous things where it was just
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: feeding off our energy and like the more we were fighting,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: the more intense everything. I think it was causing you
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: to fight the energy of the spirit was causing like
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: a negativity. Yeah, it was also feeding them. The big
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: point honest, like I said, with how the family had
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: their ability, the family had already had their issues going on.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: And like it was kind of feeding into it, but
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: that shadow thing would find little subtle stuff like we would,
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: like I would basically put my glasses down, wake up,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: my glasses are hidden somewhere in the room. What would
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: you do with my glasses? I had to do anything already.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: You were talking to me, you just wanted to go
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: up on, found out the handle for nothing. And they're
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: just escalated from there. And sometimes they got physical, not
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: too bad, where she'd hit me out here back and
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: everything else, what had you? It would happen more and
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: more to the point where we were spending more time
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: away from each other anything, which she was trying to
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: go to church at the time for her own reasons
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: and everything else. And she was learning about like, you know,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: feeding off energy and stuff like that and all that stuff. Well,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: at the time I was, I mean, I was spiritual,
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: but not religious. And so I'm studying all this other stuff.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: And I was just like, yeah, I get it. We
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: need to stay together. I can't even stand and look
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: at you. This house is driving me crazy. I'm having
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: issues to work. I have issues with other family members.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: I'm just going absolutely crazy just everybody. I was kind
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: of like we're drawing into myself. She was watching, drawing
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: herself and kids are realizing this and they're picking up
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: on it. And they were just like, thinking, we are
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: mad at them and everything else. And we, you know,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: try to break our own little bubble and just like, look,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: we love y'all to death. There's nothing to do with
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: y'all meat. Just you know, your mom is fighting. It's
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: all good. But again, as time progressed, things kept happening.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Things kept escalating to where things would fly and break
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: off and off the carpet table. We could sit and
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: drink down it and meal and knock over just random stuff.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: And was it still happening to like tobacco related things?
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Or was it? Yeah, it's fine to anything at this point.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: Like with the toys and stuff like that, we had
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: just taken a mile of the package. This again, that round,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: you want to say the 2008 to 2009. I can't
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: remember how I dropped my head. It was the 2008
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: to 2009. And the kids were playing with some other
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: toys in their own room and we were taking batteries.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: We just bought with compartment toys and put them in
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: their room. So as we took them out of the
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: pack and sent down, they'll ride off and start. We're
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: going around and everything else. We're just asking. what should
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: we stop? And just, okay, I know I'm not crazy.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: If you're real, move for yes, stay still for no.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Are you a member of the family of friend playground?
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: And let's start moving around. Did you die there? He
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: moved around. Where are you demon? Or the five of
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: you start moving around again, not moving around again. Are
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: you here for my kids? Move around. Do you like
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: my wife? Do you like me? Do I look at it?
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Move around, move around, move around, move around. And it
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: was like the craziest thing I've seen because it was
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: just direct answers. And on the recording I showed the,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: I picked up the toys, there's no batteries in it.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: The controller came with it. There's no batteries in it.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: I set everything down with the battery thing open. And
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: I'm asking and the lights are moving and it's moving around,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: making sounds and stuff. And it's making sounds that the
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: toy never, never supposed to make. It would sound like
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: a little like dog growl or something. Like a little
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: lights of fire so quick and just kind of like stop.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: And like, Connor I could was revving, but this like
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: just like a Teletubby looking type toy. It's not supposed
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: to sound like a big real deal monster truck. Was
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: it like what kind of toys was it just any toy?
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah just any electronic toy. That person was just a car.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: But then we had like a little keyboard type thing.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: I got like a little model pony doll or whatever
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: from a daughter. It would light up and do stuff
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: in the body in the room. And older toys that
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: were light up light little toy guns and everything else.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Kids could be at school or paying outside and we
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: sit in the room and then the toys would be
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: going off and everything on their own. The light would
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: be off and the door would be shut and toys
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: going off. And just going there and soon as you
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: go and everything would stop. The shut door would come
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: back on again. There's just like Connor, just try and
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: make us feel like we're going crazy. But whenever we
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: want to make a show and get startled and stuff
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: like I said. We could have friends over the SAMOR
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: and where that's delete. The place being hung the least
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: thing on our mind is just talking about, you know,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: everyday stuff. And then we're all sitting around five people
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: in the room and we're all watching like a movie's
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: flying off the case and hearing tapping on the wall,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: hearing the toilet flush. And everybody looking at us, like,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: are you not scared by this? And at this point,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: it's just like there was such a common occurrence that
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: he became background noise. But again, it was taxing on us,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: far as shipping all mine because she would have things
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: happen to her that I never had seen or know
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: anything about. I had things happen to me. She never
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: got experience and everything else. And it was getting to
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: the point like we try to go to sleep and
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: wake up and we could feel somebody looking at us,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: like feel their breath. Like right on us or like
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: touching our leg, touching our face or whatever and we
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: would wake up and try to wake up and not
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: wake up. And near the end of when we were
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: staying there, we had end up getting evicted and everything.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: We had those days just leave. Well, my nephew had
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: already known that the place was pretty haunted because we
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: end up raising him for the last three years or
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: staying there. And he's a big boy. He's like about
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: 400 pound at a time. Well, once the thing knew
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: we were leaving, things amped up tenfold. Like we were
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: starting hearing pounding on the walls. We would see things
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: dart across the room. Like that shadow thing would dart
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: across all ways. You'd see, look, kind of like eyes
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: come from closets and everything else. We kind of hear
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: growling from the other room. Doors slamming, not just shutting,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: but slamming. And especially during the last week, during the
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: last week, we were there because we're in a bad
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: way financially. The power got cut off. We were staying
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: there with no power on the week left and were
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: trying to figure out how we're going to move everything
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: going out. Well, I'm at work one day and this
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: is about in 30 at night. And my wife, it
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: calls me hysterical. Like, Josh, you need to get here
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: right now. You need to get here right now. What's
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: going on? I was laying down with the kids in
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: the room with a bunch of candles. All of a sudden.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: I started hearing growling and the candles grew out. And
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: the door slammed shut and I can't get the door open.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: You got to come here and I might hold on.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: I'll leave him. I then talked to my manager at
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: a time where he had just moved from New Orleans
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: from Hurricane Katrina thing and he was already kind of familiar.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: A little bit of paranormal. I told him all the
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: stuff beforehand what we had been experiencing and he heard
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: how to start with two loads of ponies that you
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: need to go. You go ahead and go. I got you.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: Go ahead and go. So I'm running the mile and
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: half down the road while I'm still on the phone
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: talking with her. And while I'm talking to her, she
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: starts screaming, buddy, murder, and the phone goes dead. And
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: I'm burping as quick as I can. I get to
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: the house and open in the bedroom door and it's fine.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: She's babbling, crying her eyes out. And so it said,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: this face appeared up out the wall. Obviously, it was
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: her eyes and teeth. It just got right close to
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: my face and it would not let me out the room.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: The door was shaking and everything else. I cannot get
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: out the room. Oh, and this just happened to your wife.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: But yeah. And she told me this. She didn't want
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: to be there at the time. We went and tried
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: to see if we could stay at the neighbor's apartment
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: for the time being but there wasn't there. So I'm
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: like okay I'm off work. We're all going to lay
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: down together. It's okay. We're going to do this as family.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: So go back into the room. I'm like you need
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: to leave my family alone. Whatever you are. I'm not playing.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: We're not doing this. We're going to be out of
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: here soon. so just let us be everything else. But
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: you do all of them cut. I cut. Oh, right.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: The candle's up. You get everything and we're all laying down.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: And about four feet off the floor at the edge
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: of the bed was like a dark, heavy ground, like
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: a wolf, or whatever. And this is like the weirdest
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: thing I've ever seen. It was loud like a speaker
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: for like a surround sound, whatever you could walk completely
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: around the sound. And like I said, it's all about
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: four feet off the ground, but you cannot see anything
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: where it's coming from. But it was like, it was
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: like a constant noise. It was just, yeah, all night long.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: It was sound just like a big rock wall. Just
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: sitting there, just standing there at the foot of the bed.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: As you could feel, you could feel somebody standing there,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: just staring at you, wishing you were dead. But all year,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: all night long, it was just sound like a wolf
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: growl or something. And we're all hugging each other and
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: we're just, you know, constantly trying to pray and everything else.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: Let us make it through and stuff. Well, two days
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: later on the very last day, we finally run a U-Haul.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: And my sister-in-law is watching my kids and it's just me,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: my wife, and my nephew Joel. We're moving everything out
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: of the apartment. And we go, I go into the
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: bedroom and there are still loading stuff in the truck.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: And this is a bright, beautiful sunny day. There's no
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: curtains in the windows. The only thing that's in the
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: bedroom is a mattress and a little metal folding chair.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: So I go in there and I'm like, yeah, you
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: really thought you were a big and bad trying to
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: light threaten my kids and everything. I just wanted to see,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: you know, show off what you can do. This is
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: your last flipping day and everything that you're having to do.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to watch my language. If you really want
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: to show what you can do, why don't you show
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: what you can do? You effing content or whatever. Anyway,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: I'm not in the slightest joking. The room goes from
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: ceiling to the floor by curtains getting pulled. I mean beforehand,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's a white room, right? It's bright, bright
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: as I'll get out and walk in. But the room
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: goes dark. Like clouds disappear out of the sky, but
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: there's no clouds. I'm like, oh, what did I just do?
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: I sit down, I'm sitting down and sharing my say,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: I get out and I'm like, I need to go
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: out this room. Before I take three steps, I get
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: so completely nauseous, like instant to my gut sickle, I
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: want to go up. I just faceplant into the mattress.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: And all I can do is stare at the doorway,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: which are random papers and everything else in the hallway.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: As I'm staring, the papers and stuff are moving like
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: something's walking to me, but I can't see anything with
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: my eyes. but the thing is putting the image in
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: my head to let me see it without seeing it.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: I know it sounds weird by saying that, but it's
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: what needs no way to look like to make me
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: think I'm crazy. If I go try to sell anybody this,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: they're not going to believe it. Anyway, this thing is
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: about 4 foot tall, big bulbous head wrinkles, all over
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: its face, like weird leathery skin, and it has the
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: biggest Toronto looking mouth, like little grin from ear to ear,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: and it has these tiny, little sharp, like sharp teeth
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: looking thing. Years later, the best thing I was able
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: to ever find is to look slightly the demon from
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Death Note.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: It was like a gray leather looking thing, and it's
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: no bigger than like an 8 or 9 year old kid.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: This thing crawls up to me, gets about 2 inches
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: from my face, and it's smiling. I'm getting freaked out.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: I feel its breath on my face that could smell
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: just nothing but sulfur. I feel it crawl up on
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: my back. It's nearer than my back and its hands
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: are on my shoulders, and it starts getting heavy and heavy.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: My vision starts becoming red, and at this point, I've
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: had my come to Jesus moment. I'm like, in the
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: name of Jesus Christ, I command you to be off me.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: The more I'm saying this, the heavier this thing is getting, well,
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: I'm really sinking into the mattress, and I'm crying at
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: this point, and I'm a pretty tough guy. I don't
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: use your pride. This point, I'm falling my eyes out.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: My nephew comes in, he'll help me out. I'm yelling,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: I'm joking. I'm getting here, please. And he's known me
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: his whole life. He's never seen me cry. And I'm
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: falling my eyes out. I'm like, please help me get
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: off this mattress. The name of Jesus Christ made it up.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: And whenever I see him, I get the uncontrolled but
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: urge that the moment I get off this bed, I'm
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: going to take the nearest thing and I'm going to
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: pledge him until I see his brain. I don't know
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: where it is coming from, but it's taking all his
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: might to adjust to lift my shoulder off the mattress.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: And my vision continues to keep getting redder and redder
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: to the point it looks like I'm looking through those
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: color glasses. And I'm just so, so angry, so mad
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: at the same time, so freaked out. But all I'm
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: looking at is him. He's trying to help me and
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: all I want to do is kill him. And I
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: don't know where his film comes from. But finally, the
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: thing jumps off my bat. I'm able to actually get
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: off the mattress and I've run completely out and on
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: my hyper-billionaire thing, what I'm trying to smoke a cigarette
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: like rotten the hell just happened. The room goes back
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: bright again. Well, Joel's in there. He's like trying to
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: figure out what's going on. He's in there not even
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: 5 minutes. He comes out. He's babbling. It's like, I'm
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: not going back in there. I'm not going back in there.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: You're not making me. I don't want to be here anymore.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: I was like, what's going on? What happened to you now?
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: It's like, I heard three snaps coming from the living
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: room behind me. I'll go a little and some pick
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: me up about a four off a four and threw
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: me in the wall. And I was trying to get
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: up and to grab my ankle and I was, he
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: jumped up and he ran out. But like I said,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: he's a big, he's a big boy. He's 300 pounds,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: no joke. And for some to lift him up, which
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: I just, why just experienced, I knew it was not
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: far out of the realm of hacks that happened. And
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: he comes out and he's babbling like a baby. And like, look,
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: I know we just got hurt. Do you know all
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: this stuff out of here? When you're out here with
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: squeezing can, I don't want to be in here anymore.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: You do. There's grab as much you can and we'll
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: go out whatever. My wife goes in everything else. She
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: ends up getting three scratches down her chest where she's
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: getting stuff out to kitchen. She's like, doesn't want to
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: be in there anymore. But we just grabbed the last
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: little bit. We can like 30 minutes and we leave
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: we leave my kids bed the couches on the room
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: a few other things we just couldn't do anymore. At
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: the same time like during the last couple years we
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: started having a bad road problem. And we're clean. We're
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: like we're all the time cleaning mopping taking trash out.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: We're not leaving stuff like that. But the more activity
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: happened like we have flies up here and then we
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: start having a look and then we have some spiders.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Everything else just constant building up to the point like
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: we had about, I don't know, four or five extremaries
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: come do the thing. Everything will be completely fine. And
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: here they come back with the bad smell. And like
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: I said during that last little bit that last day,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: we thought, okay, we've done washer hands. It's there at
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: the place. We have nothing else to do with it.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Period point blank. Well, we end up staying in a
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: hotel for about 7 months. And this hotel has already
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: had to share other things all that too. With while
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: we were there at the hotel, we still had same
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: similar kind of things happen like with phone ring and
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: everything would hear scratch on while we don't have any
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: neighbors and stuff like that. Things would go missing and stuff.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: And it wasn't the same thing to do with the family,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure to shadow thing follow this, but
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: just in time. Because again, We saw we were still
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: fighting everything out. It might allow some sort of energy
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: from moving from the house to follow you or something
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: like that. Well, we have stayed there as a current confined.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: We have stayed there longer. Up even to this day,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: we have stayed there longer than anybody else has ever
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: stayed in our apartment. Usually the people stayed there two,
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: three months. Things happen and they leave. They don't want
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: having to part of it. And usually stays empty. That's
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: why it showed up empty whenever we were able to
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: stay there. But for us staying there 7 years, like
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: it got real familiar with us and how we got
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: out and had attachment to the kids. Well, I had
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: met some friends from my job, our house and the hotel,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: which they just got into the apartment themselves. And I, oh, yeah,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: you can be roommates and everything is fine. But they'd
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: come by and hang out and everything. And one night
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: they were like, we'll watch your kids here. Y'all can
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: go to the office, have you with some of the
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: long time, everything adult time away from kids. And that's great.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Me and my wife got to the place. And there's
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: not initially there or whatever. We're sitting and watching a
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: TV and this is about like four in the morning.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: And randomly she gets this weird look. She her head
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: tilts a little bit. And normally she has brown eyes
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: where eyes go completely black. Like super dollied, she comes
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: to her office face so bit. And me and she
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: starts bawling her eyes out. Just look down and her
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: tone of her voice. It wasn't the same tone wherever
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: it's like higher pitch and everything. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: I didn't mean to. I'm so sorry. I'm like, what
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: are you talking about? Like what? What are you talking about?
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: And she's like, I'm so sorry. I didn't mean to.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm just at this point,
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to shake her and I'm looking at her
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: and everything else. And I said the way she hung
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: her head, the way she was saying her words, her mannerisms, everything.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: That wasn't her. Just yeah. And for like 20 minutes
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: and just half on it at the end of random
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: light blue. So why are you looking at me like that? Like,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: what do you mean? I'm looking at you like that.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: What the hell happened? Why were you growing? I wasn't growing.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: I'm like... Terry. Yeah, you were. What do you mean?
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: I was like, what was I saying? I'm like, you
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: were going on and on about your side about something. No,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: I wasn't like, Terry. Why were you freak me out?
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: Why would I rap me out like this? If this
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: didn't that just happened to say, I think nothing follows.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: And then all things started appearing. Just I get to
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: apartment and we already went down this whole road and stuff. Well,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: the church that we were starting to attend was a
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: little tiny church that we were feeding here and there,
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: bowling on stuff and only about 20 people in this church.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: This young guy, his little boy younger than me, I'm
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: 33 right now. So at the time he was like 23, 24.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: just trying to get off the ground. We're on the
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: deacons of the church. Happened to be best, I could
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: say clairvoyant. He could pick up on things that other
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: people couldn't ever pick up on. But he like seemed
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: to be able to talk spirits and not other traditional
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: wicked wicked style thing or whatever he's using which that
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: like he'll be able to like he can go into
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: a place and tell them to go to the fight
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: and everything else to house blessings. My possessions, all that stuff.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: And again, I'm still learning about this and all that.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: He offers combined bless to house because he's already been
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: familiar about with our story and everything else and offer
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: to come by. Well, we do exactly everything he says.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: And also on top of that, I had a little
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: bit of salt to the door. Everything just in case anything, whatever. Well,
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: we open every window, we open doors, everything and he's
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: going to eat room. As you're reading from this very, very,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: very old Bible. And he's going through each room doing
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: a thing and he stops in one room in particular,
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: the room that my wife got possessed. And he just
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: hallowed out and he starts speaking to Latin. He says
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: about three lines of Latin. And all of a sudden
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: you hear stopping going through the hallway like, don't don't
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: don't don't don't don't. And the front door slam where
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: it shakes the wall. And we're like, wait a minute,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: what's wrong? We all come from the room and stuff
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: and it's like whenever whenever you banish evil, whatever likes
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: to give one big last straw to show what you
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: can do and everything else. But he's just like, you
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: have to be careful. He's just like having any open
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: door window where things can come out, things can come
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: in and everything else. And that, kind of struck me
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: and everything else because again, wasn't totally expecting that. But
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: we never did any of that with the shadow thing.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: I don't think it could, could you got rid of
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: the shadow thing? I think he got it off of
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: us and he went back to the hill where it knew.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: Which where we was staying it was not even a
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: quarter mile away. Because again, I from friends, I still
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: have North Carolina that had friends stay at the place. Again,
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: people stayed out of months, the three months. They can't
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: stand it anymore and they leave. and it's still going
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: on to this day. We left the apartment in late
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: 2010 to, no, late 2011. That's right. And what about
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: before you moved in there, did you ever hear anything
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: about the people who lived there before you were? No,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: that was the weird thing. That was the weird thing
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: that the people, our friends that stayed there, they never
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: had any experience. That's why I was more inclined to
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: think that whatever it was that from the apartment, and
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: either like farthest, straight front of the apartment, to the hotel,
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: to the new apartment, or just wandered around and just
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: happened to pick up on your energy and just like, oh,
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: so this is where you're at. I'm going to go here.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: But like, being at the hotel, never one time heard
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: anything about like, oh, yeah, this place is crazy on
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: and everything else. The elevator apartment, and there was a
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: young couple of stay there. they had they were fighting
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: and everything else on their own, but they never won
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: time to change this. So, whatever. And we never would
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: go out of a way as a family and everything,
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: just like, oh, no, well, you know, yeah, we go,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: we go, it's hunting off. I didn't know I was
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: in there. We just, we kept you ourselves and it
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: became both in top of what our friends would mention about,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: but it wasn't like we wore our sleeve, you know,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: we just kept it to ourselves. And so, I believe
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: if there was something going on there beforehand, it would
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: have mentioned it to us. But for the fact that
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: my wife had got this, therefore, but everything, and I've
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: been with her for twelve years, I've never one time
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: seen this happen, and just seeing a whole demeanor in
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: the tone of her voice, her bongers rise out in this,
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, I didn't mean to, I'll never do
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: it again and everything else. And like, she wasn't responding
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: to anything I'm saying. And she didn't just randomly, she
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: comes back to and just, she don't remember the last
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: 20 minutes and like, wait a minute, uh, no, no, no,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: you need to have some my church doing this. No, no, no, no,
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: we're not doing this. Because I didn't want to go
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: through that whole thing again, like, with the thing that
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: crawled all my back and stuff. I still been looking
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: into it, to try to see if this thing or whatever,
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: if it was a demon, if it was a shapeshift
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: or whatever it was, does it have a name? What's
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: this backstory and stuff? Because that's what I could say.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: It looked like gong. And we never told, me and
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: my wife never told each other what we saw, like
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: in detail and stuff. We just said things happened and
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: we left it big. We were confused. We would talk
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: about it, get more power stuff. When we left and
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: stayed at the hotel, then we describe what we saw
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: and everything else. And like, the best I could just
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: in general search on Google is the thing that looked
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: from death note with the crazy smile and stuff. But like,
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: this thing was, what I saw was like 4 foot tall,
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: maybe look like 80, 90 pounds, little skinny, grey looking thing.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: It had so many wrinkles across its face and it
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: would smile like in a treasure cat. Like huge unnatural smile.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: And then I couldn't see it after we went and
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: it got right into my face with the smile and
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: just climbed on my back like a cat. And then
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: started getting heavier and heavier and heavier. Well, legit singing
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: into the mattress where I kept feeling like I'm almost
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: like 5, 600 pounds here. Like I need to get
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: up and then my vision changed to red, which I
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: didn't ever saw or heard anything about that being possible.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: I could say I have my come to Jesus moment.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: You may have been spiritual and not religious. You're going
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: to find some religion now because this isn't evil and
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: it's hurting you. You need to get off of you.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: You're going in this room. You need to think of something. Now,
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: like I said, I'm crying. I'm hysterical. I couldn't do
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: it anymore. I couldn't have my I couldn't risk that
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: happening to even my wife or my kids or even
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: my wife. I don't want that to happen to me
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: or anybody else and like I said, I don't know
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: what it was. It had to be the shadow thing.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: I don't know why it chose to look like that
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: but it crawled into the room on his hands and knees.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Got to my face, just crawled on my back and
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: made the room turn dark. It made me get sick.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: It knew what it was doing. When I went to
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: challenge it, when it knew I wasn't there, when my
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: kids are doing everything else, like you know, parental instinct
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: kicked in. I was like, at this point, I'm like,
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: I don't care whatever you're not going to hurt my kids.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: And they're like, oh, you don't think I hurt kids.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: Room goes dark. I'll show you. I'm like, oh boy,
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: what did I just do? So what about you know,
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: you said your wife saw a face coming out of
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: the wall that trapped her in a room. What did
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: she have it described to face? See, she said it
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: was like what she saw because the room being black
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: was kind of like a little like a black sheet
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: with two growing eyes and the same exact toothy grin
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: and smile. It just kind of appeared out of a shadow,
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: got close to her to her face. Did that smile like,
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: you think you're going to get out of here? And
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: she immediately excretes, bloody murder and runs and grabs the
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: kids and everything else which I don't blame her. And again,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: like it did not want us to leave that we
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: had no legal choice. We got affected, we have to go.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: And if they're like that and which you know, like
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: I said, it was making let us know, I don't
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: like it, you're not going to leave whatever. So it
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: was like putting on like a final show for you,
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: you know, just before you left. Sure did. Sure did.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: Like I said, it was just letting us know like,
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: you might, you think you're going to leave, but you're
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: not going to get rid of us. So until right
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: near the end, with the guy I went to start
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: reading Latin and stuff, which I still to say, don't
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: know exactly what he said, but this wasn't no King
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: James father. This guy had a very, very, very old father.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: I mean old. And like he said, he just he
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: kind of i don't know it reminds me like ed
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: and lorraine warren how lorraine was she was you know
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: sensitive stuff and everything else that's how this guy was
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: like he was going from room to room everything was
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: fine until he hit the one room where she got
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: this I mean, to stop. And he knew that thing
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: was in there.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: .
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: And this.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: Was at the place that you move to after the yeah,
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: this is after the hotel, this is it. This is
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: when we were finally done with the thing in North Carolina. Shortly,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: about five or six months after this, we ended up
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: moving to South Carolina. Everything else because there was any
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: jobs at time in North Carolina. We just came down here.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: There's things for cheaper or more opportunities for our family
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: and everything else. But during the whole time we were
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: in North Carolina, it was like things were just drawn
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: to us that wouldn't be necessarily drawn to other people.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: And it was more focused on my kids. Even now,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: I can do, I can run a spare box app
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: on occasion and just, you know, see if I could
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: pick up anything or whatever because we still feel something's there.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: I honestly believe it could be my grandma watching Patagonia
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: since it's just those three. But there's something else there
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: because it is really, there's a man and a woman
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: that we mostly hear and it's all the time talking
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: about my son. Either they're referred to his nickname, which
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: is Bobby or they'll call him lame. And on occasion,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: they'll talk, they'll mention about my daughter, but they're more
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: really excited about talking to my son. And my son,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: he's agnostic at this point, even though he's had all
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: this stuff that happened until he doesn't know what to
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: think of it. So he tries to block it all out.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: My daughter goes to church religiously. She goes to church
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: right too, three times a week. And they're both, I mean,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: they're twins. But they get along, they do a lot
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: of same things, but they do their own things, they're
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: going up and doing all that. But they song about
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: my son, they really like, I guess that if he
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: was to kind of like look into doing something with
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: spiritual stuff, he'd be a good candidate being sensitive or
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: something that's I can say. Because no matter where I go,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: I could do it at my house, I could do
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: it at my friend's house. I could do wherever I
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: always want to talk to him. And he just looks
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: at me and he's like, no, no. And he'll leave him.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: Or maybe it's the fact that he's agnostic, aren't it?
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: That he's skeptical. Maybe that frustrates him and makes him
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: want to contact him more or something like that. My daughter,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: she wants to talk to anybody I've talked to her.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: She's always been like that, just right out, but she told.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: And she can kind of, she sees colors around people
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: whether they're good or bad. She's not like a second,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: she can pick up or is good. She can tell
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: me whether or not she likes some of her or not,
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: wherever they're actually, you know, there's a mean wealth, they don't.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: And she pretty act about stuff. But Lane, on the
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: other hand, like I said, he's had experiences with all
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: this stuff. He knows this will, but he just doesn't
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: want to acknowledge. He just figures, if I don't talk
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: about it, if I don't think about it, they won't
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: want to have nothing to do with me. I just
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: want to get about my wife and all this other stuff.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: But she has fun. Because I was like that way too.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: And I'm not telling him he needs to know bust
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: out of Chris and ball or anything. But if there's
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: something that's watching both of them, whether it's so my
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: grandma or one of my wife's family members or whatever that's,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: you know, protecting them and keeping eye on them, making
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: sure they're okay. You know, that's fine. If he wants
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: to do it, I'm not going to push him. But
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: I said, there's a positive presence here around since that
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: it hasn't done any negative thing or whatever. We don't
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: have that bad smell or nothing like that. We just,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know, like I said, the best I can
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: say is just old. My grandma was real close to
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: everything best. I can describe her. She's the best grandma's boy.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: She would be the first person to want to sit
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: and drink beer with and everything. And she always have
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: funny stories and everything else. But she cared about her family,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. She died right. She died
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: of cancer, leukemia, and MSA about three months after my
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: case was born. I named my daughter after my grandma
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: and everything. And I was extremely close to my grandparents
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: growing up. They raised me from time I was born
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: to I was six. And over the years, I always
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: taught them and everything else. But when my grandma died,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: I said, I feel her presence around and she kind
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: of helps, you know, steer me if I'm doing something.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: I'm not so as to be doing whatever she does.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: We know somehow. She'll send me some type of sign
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: in my dreams or whatever she helps. Kind of helps
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: steer things going on because you see I'm doing this
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: all myself. And I think she could be protecting your
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: family honestly. Because again, it's just us and everything else.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: And it's been pretty tough. Doing all this by myself.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to plan by a Lomuk his to death.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: We're a really close tight-knit family. Anytime we go do something,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: we always do it together. Whether they want to do
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: it or not, just with that, that no matter what
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: it is, we're going to watch this story. We're going
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: to go check out some abandoned places or we're going
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: to go to Walmart or anything like that. We always
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: do it together. And it's always been like that. Ever
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: since the kids were first off up till now, we all,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: us three has always been very close. And there's been
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: times that, you know, best of us not happen, but
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: something would intervene. You know, like guardian angel type of intervention,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: the best I can say, everything else to kind of help,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: like the last prevention, like, oh, before you go deep in, like, oh,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: I'm stopping. All your lead. And do you think when
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: the guy from the church came and blessed the house
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: that enabled her to come through or was she there before? Personally,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: I believe she was there. but I think that whatever
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: that was was just a little bit stronger than that.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: And honestly, I feel that shadow thing has been there
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: on that hill for a very long time. I'm talking
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: like hundreds of years because this is like an old
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: Indian mountain. It's like in shape, a perfect shape of
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: a comb right on the side of Holly Criss. And
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: at the top of the hill is a road call,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: all the pot lane kind of lines down. But at
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: the top of this hill and everything that really grows
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: and stuff. But the neighbors on the other side of
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: the hill, there's a couple trailers on the other side.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: And all around his base, there's always people who talk
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: about the shadow thing. There's just constantly watching, knocking on
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: stuff and everything else whispering in your ear and everything else.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: And people just like, no, you know, we ain't staying here, whatever.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: But more of the energy was always focused on all
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: part of it because of that family. Now back to
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: the family again. After that house had burned down, they
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: cleared the lot out and turned into a playground. Now
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: at night, late at night, usually between one to four
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: or five in the morning, at any time you could
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: see the swing swing by itself, back and forth. There's
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: a couple of kids. I mean, sometimes you see it
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: during day of the mows at night. But there's like
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: two sets of swings, a spiral slide, a couple of seesaws,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: and I spouted it. But there's swings that would swing
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: on the wrong, whether it's the summer, winter, and that.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: And there's nobody around where the house was put down. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: So I think it could have been how he said
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: it was affecting, you know, moving tobacco products around. Could
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: it have been not caused the original house to burn down? Also,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: I believe so because I mean, I personally would never
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: sleep smoking. If I'm going to go to sleep, I'll
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: put my cigarette out. I'll put my cigar out. Otherwise,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: because I've already lived with my dad, he had a
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: pill problem and it'd be time to watch him fall asleep,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: driving or sick. Now, I've seen cigarettes and everything burn
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: straight to his fingers and burn his hands up. And
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: I kind of want to be like that. So I
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: always make point play everything out. And finding that the
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: father had went to sleep smoking and burned a whole
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: house down is like he wanted to get a lot
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: of cigarette and everything else but he couldn't. And like
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: if you see smoke or whatever, you try to do
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: something with the astray or there would be times, excuse me,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: every time we'd come home from like the ball or
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: the grocery store or something like that, come in and
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: smell cigarette smoke. No, there was nobody there at the place.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: We'd smell it just thinking, oh, it was just from
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: us earlier but you could still see the smoke. Like
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: someone just for us to walk on and smoke but
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: there's no one there. And just like the family was
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: there just like doing a whole routine but they couldn't
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: really leave or anything else because that shadow thing was
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: beating off their air and eating the mess about it.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: It was kind of like they would trap there. They
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: want to like make sure we're okay but at the
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: same time that shadow thing was feeding up like taking
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: their energy, taking our energy to manifest for itself. The
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: further exacerbate things and everything else. And you said something
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: about the original family that burned down in the house.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: They had twins and you had twins and there could
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: be a link there that maybe that's why they were
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: attached to your family. I mean all more weird coincidences
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: like that. Just further cat related me and everything else.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: I mean I wanted to know more about it but
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: I didn't have any of the exact details to know
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: exactly where to look as though it was just here
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: and fall apart figures here and there and everything else.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: And it was just in passing and like okay I'll
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: get it. I'm going to go out and sell it
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: later on and I'm going to be off work or
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: when I have day off and that would never ever
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: occur because other things would pop up. So I always
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: will get put on the back on me. From what
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: I gathered I said the little boy who went to
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: spend the night that night at his grandparents house. Everything
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: else is going to weaken. And the mother, father, daughter
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: and the twins are there. The twins are maybe five, six.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: He goes to sleep smoking a cigarette and looking for
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: him in the whole house burnt down. Everybody. All the
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: people died in the house and the only survivor was
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: the little boy who happened to be at my apartment.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: And then coincidentally years later my friend brings that kid over.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: And he is so on edge that he's thinking it
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: points to my small attack and everything else. And he
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: just like fight or flight instantly. And the whole time
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to be as cordial and welcoming as I
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: could be. Because again I'm trying the whole time I
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: want to have friends and stuff. Stay with us and
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: everything else all I'm trying to do is instill to
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: the kids. You know, you help our people when you
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: need help it will come back to you. Do another
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: time doing you. So if anybody comes by, you know,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: be polite for one everything else. And this guy like
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: I said, he wasn't he didn't mean anything by it.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: I can tell. I mean, I know it was nothing
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: like nobody did anything to him. It's just that the
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: moment he got in, he's looking around his shoulders and
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: looking behind him and everything else. He's just constantly fidgeting
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: around and anybody looks at him and he's like, what?
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: He's like, he just he doesn't want to be there.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: But he's feeling like he's about to be attacked or
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: something like that. And he's just like when he goes
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: outside and everything else to get some air, a buddy
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: goes out to him and I just fall out behind
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: him and everything else. And he's very to start fighting
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: in my front yard and my dude. What's going on, man?
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: I'm just going on. Yeah, going on. And he's just like,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: forget this. I'm gone. I'm gone. And then my buddy
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: goes walks with him down the road and stuff. They're
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: talking to him the night. Well, that was weird. And
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: he comes back and he tells me all this. I'm like, well,
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: all that makes sense now. I understand. If that was me,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't nobody. If that was me, I wouldn't even
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: have came by here. I was going to see it.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: It's strange that you came back to the same place.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: Like I've got a little bit there. That was just
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: the whole story. Like I said, just different parts of it.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: It sounds fantastical. It sounds like I saw some old
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: time zone episode or whatever. This is all 100% as
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: things happen. I don't have exact dates and times like
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: You know, timestamps and everything. But this is everything that
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: happened as it progressed. This is all 100% true. And
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: for anybody that is ever a skept of anything paranormal
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: and stuff, no matter how technology ever advances and stuff,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: no one can ever have 100% absolute proof of the afterlife.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter what part of the world you're from,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: what's your background, anything like that. When you have a
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: personal paranormal experience, what something personally happens to you, appears
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: to you. You hear something. And whatever it is, you
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: know that that happened. You know it's real. Whether or
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: not you can prove to somebody else, isn't that's not
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: the most important thing. It's just, if it happens to you,
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: you know it's real. And that's all you can really do.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: You can tell people about it and it's up to
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: them whether they believe or not. If they've never had
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: any paranormal experience themselves, they can relate because they know
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 1: personally what's happened to them. It doesn't matter what anybody
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: else can say. People can be skeptics all day long.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, you have people that say the moon landing
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: never happened. They say people like Jeff Taylor, Stas, all
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: of that thing can spare you theories out of wazoo.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: But when it comes down to paranormal, unless it personally
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: happens to you, It can be interesting to say when
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: it happens to you, it takes on a whole new life.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: You know what you person experience, you know what you see.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: There's nobody on earth that can tell you different if
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: you know what you had happened to you. Oh, definitely.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: I think that's why I find these stories so interesting
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: because I mean, you can show people your pictures of
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: all you want and you know, it's an experience that
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  Speaker 1: you yourself.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: Exactly. I mean, that was the main thing that I
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: wanted to put my story together over the years and
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: everything else at different points. I've tried to accumulate all
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: my stuff and be able to do some own, but
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: years ago, whenever I happened to, uh, stuff on your
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: channel and I saw the recording about the child people,
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: I was just like, this guy, he does good work.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: And I need to let him, I'm pretty sure if
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: I let him know my story, let him know what's
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: going on. He'll do good work and he can make,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: he can make sense out of the jungle. That I'm
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: saying and everything else is just, I'm not, like I said,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: I know you can do work and I know you
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: can help, you know, tell people what's happening from my
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: point of view and everything else. I mean, I don't know.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: I can do is, you know, show your story to people. Yeah,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: that's some saying. That's some saying, yeah. You know, yeah,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: I'm sure like someone. Someone who's listening to this will
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: probably have some interested inputs and, you know, yeah, whether
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: you grew up with a silver spoon in your mouth
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: or you lived in a chair park the whole life
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: or whether you're male, female, white, white tall, short skinny fat,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if you live in Europe, Africa, China, USA, Mexico,
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: everybody has experiences on day-to-day basis. Whether they decide they
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: want to ignore it and like its background noise or
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: if It's really relevant and it's right there in their face.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: At first, they might think, oh, I must be going crazy.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: The person right beside me isn't experiencing this. This must
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: be just my imagination or something going on. But when
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: something person happens to you, when you eliminate any other
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: possibility of what it is, the interaction human being, like
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: I said, you know what is true. You know, if
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: you stick your hand on a hot stove, you're going
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: to get burned and everything else. That's just the universal thing.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: Like you have something happen to you. You know what's
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: going on and the best thing anybody can do is
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: share the story and if they can get anything from it, awesome.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: If they think it's just a fantastical tale to listen
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: to before you go to sleep, that's fine too. It
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. Just songs, I feel like I've got
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: my story out and say this is what happened to me,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: This is what went on during the whole time and
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: this is how it ended. Everything else, that's all that's
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: important to me. Well, I hope someone, I hope we
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: get some more light shed on it. Maybe someone listening,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: that's more information. I don't know, you never know someone
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: else from the area, some more information on the the platform.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: The place you never know. It's a thing. Because like that,
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: you have to have that. Like the more I've been
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: doing the research about the little grey, little grey-winkled man,
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: I've not been able to find anything that's 100% concrete
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: and that's the things that will have been driving me
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: crazy because I've done all kinds of research in different
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: religions and stuff like that. I haven't found anything quite
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: close to it. I don't know why I decided to
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: take that shape unless it's just personally wanting to mess
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: with me. But the thing was, yeah, because it chose
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: the most creepiest looking appearance it could. But in any
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: other given time before that, it always wanted to look
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: like me. But not like a blurry version of me.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: Like if you're looking at a reflection of slightly fog mirror,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: like a lot of focus, it would look like me.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: But it would be missing certain details like my eyes,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: my legs, my hands, it would appear and just disappear.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: definitely sounds demonic you know how you said towards the
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: end things would happen in threes like there would be
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: three knocks three scratches and that's sort of associated with
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: demon activity and the birds and the bugs and everything
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: else That's why I was starting to get more worried
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: near the end once it was known that we were
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: addicted and stuff when we had only had 30 days.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: It was like, well, if you only have 30 days,
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: you're going to know every day for these 30 days
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: that I'm here. And like with the animal growl and
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: the foot of the bed in the pitch fight room,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: like I got up and I walked completely around it
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: to try and figure out where the source is from.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: But it was standing in mid-air, four feet off the ground.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: And it was no bigger. My estimate would be about
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: an 8 inch circle in the air where the sound
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: was coming from it, but it was loud. I mean,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: not so like you legit have a dog angry in
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: the room growling. And it wasn't natural. It stayed there
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: for about 5, 6 hours until daylight happened. It just
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: stood at the foot of the bed looking at us growling.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: And we just all heard each other praying the entire night.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: We didn't want to get up. Something kept scratching on
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: the bottom of our feet, but we were just like, nope, nope,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: you're not getting us. You're not trying to make us
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: get up out of this, get up out of bed
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: or anything else. You're not attacking us. We're just going
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: to hug each other. We're praying. Go away. But then
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: like I said, the bare last day when it showed
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: me its true power and stuff, like it changed, it
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: changed my outlook on life a lot. I didn't ever
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: know things could do this because from whatever all I've
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: gathered beforehand I've never heard any reported. There's someone's vision
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: changing like that. I've heard about people getting angry and
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: stuff and wanting to attack somebody like getting possessed in
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: their own but having to think all my back really
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: getting heavier and heavier and heavier. And then my vision changing.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: I went before. It was freaking me out. At some
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: point I said I'm babbling like a baby. I'm crying.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: And then constantly, it didn't mean that Jesus Christ had
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: come in to be off. I mean, every time I
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: said that, it kept getting better. I kept getting heavier.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: And it was just freaking me out to point. I
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: wanted to run as far away as this as I could.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: Only thing is I had to keep in mind. I
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: have to get everything out of this place today or
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be hit with a big find and
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: everything else for leaving stuff. So I mean, I'm constantly
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: keeping that in mind, but at the same time, this
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: is all going on. I'm just a jumble mess. Like
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: I said, I get out. I'm trying to get my
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: breath and everything else, quick crying stuff. My nephew's already
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: in there. He's trying to get a couple of other boxes.
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: He gets picked up during the gist of wall. He
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: comes out and he's babbling like a little baby. He's pale.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: And my dude, I understand. I know, man. Don't trust me.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be in there any more than
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: you do, man. We just grab what we can. Go
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: in the back and we'll go. And my wife goes
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: in and she gets through scratches, costs her chest while
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: she's in the kitchen. Everything else. And I said, every
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: time we was in there by ourselves, we'd personally get
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: attacked when all three of us is in there. We
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: hear stuff all around. The whole time is like, hey, hey, hey,
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: don't go. Don't go. Don't go. I mean, there was
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: any option whether we just depelgled, we could left, we
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: left a good bit of stuff. I did still get
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: a fine for leaving stuff behind. At that point, I
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: didn't want to be in there any longer than I did.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: I did.
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: I just say, oh, I'll take the loss. I'll go
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: to court. I'll get a judgment. Whatever I'll do with
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: it later on. It's not worth me getting attacked anymore.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: It's again, I think it is to London. Does it
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: have a notice then? All they know is just that people,
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: for some reason, they just don't want to stay there.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: Like they hear reports and stuff. I had there's a
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: long list of reports to there about lights and things
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: moving and scratching and stuff on the wall and tapping
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: and whispering and stuff. But it's never was to the
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: point as intense as was with us being there. It
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: was just like, what we had happened in the beginning.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: It was start to happen to them and the average person.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: It's never had anything paranormal. It first started going on
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: and it's happening in the middle of the day with
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: people around. they're just like oh no no no we're
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: not doing this forget this it's scary stuff we'll find
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: someone else to go we'll go stay in another government
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: place we're not doing this we should put it on
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: the standable i mean if we had someone else to
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: go while this was going on we probably would have
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: left but as time going on with actual life going
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: on we just come putting the back burner It was
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: just that kind of interesting thing. There's at first nothing
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: was it. There's more of us in conversation, these when
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: the lights would appear on the wall and we'd hear
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: tapping and stuff, seeing the shadow people or the shadows
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: of a man or woman in the kitchen and stuff
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: like that. It's going to say, wow, people, that's so cool.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: I hope people don't have this happen. But wow, this
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: is so interesting. And stuff because again, were also an expector.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: There's no full warning to it when the light would
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: appear into the living room. That was a white light
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: for some reason. And we had to change colors, but
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 1: it would dance all along the ceiling, the wall, and stuff.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: And these lights, again, the wall of the stuff, it
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: would just as bright as you would take a flashlight
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: about it, put it away from the wall and cut
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: it on. You put your hand to it and it
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: would fret back to your hand, but it was coming
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: from the wall. and it would have only passed about
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: 10 seconds at most. And we just fade away like
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: some of my car. It sounds like it was sort
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: of gathering energy over the years. And when you first
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: moved in, there wasn't much happening, especially when you say
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: in the photograph, you only ever saw it around your kids.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: It sounded like it was using them to draw energy,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: which is something I've heard from a lot of different Hottons,
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: that spirits or demons will use children's energy because they've
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: got a lot more energy too. exactly and i love
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: these orbs like the peach colored hexagon orbs that wasn't
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: even around my kid i was around my nephew at
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: times but any pictures of kids in particular but most
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: of my kids any pictures of kids in particular always
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: had orbs around them always no matter if they're like
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: in the foreground in front of the kids and stuff
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: And these wasn't like dust things because you would see
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: them hidden behind other things. You would see comet trails
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: coming from them. You would see different things like different colors, black, green, blue,
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: red and stuff. The weird hexagon, when I've never seen
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: a six-sided, you know, or with a little line around it,
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: I ever appeared like that. And it was solid. And
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: within those five seconds, those pictures being took and appeared,
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: going to the mother and it was gone as quick
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: as it appeared. And it came from the baby, up
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: to the mother and it was gone. And like I said,
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: at first, I could say it was like, the family
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: was there because of the sight, well, this family's like,
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: come like Irish. They got twins. They got twins. They
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: have twins. Let's protect them. There's something here, whatever. But
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: as soon as that shadow thing started coming around, maybe
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: I fed off a lot of energy from Bobo doing
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 1: his drug use that he kept hidden from people. But
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: as he was only 29, at the time that picture
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: was taken, he used 27. He died two years later,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: like I said, from the old days from shooting up
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: fentanyl at a friend's house in the closet. Like, he'd
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: killed him so quick, they found him. He still had
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: the needle on his arm and everything else. And nobody knew.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: He had a drug problem like this. He kept it hidden,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: but he was getting different stuff from other people and everything.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: You know, he kept it well hidden. But with the
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: crazy pictures, like the shadow thing behind him and the
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: thing that was in the mirror and stuff, always initially
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: started around him. And then after he left, whatever the energy,
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: that negative energy really amped up in general and stuff.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: And it could like the shadow thing, Bobo was there,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: but really got the super char from him. And his
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: negative energy just like sit, camp there at my place.
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: Because again, after he left, that's when the more it started,
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: and for no to more physical things. And what have you? Well,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen this. like a picture
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: it's quite famous of him there was a guy who
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: had a massive drug problem and what made him stop
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: was he took a picture or there was a picture
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: taken of him and then behind him in the picture
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: there's like a dog's face looking over his shoulder it's
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: been around on the internet for quite a while it's
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: a weird picture that's what the picture of Bobo reminded
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: me of actually. And we were just going to say, well,
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: we're picking at him about, oh, that's your Lemme Univary thing. Well,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: there's some of our, every time he would come by
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: and stuff and we'll take him out and he'd just,
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: they really want to believe it until again, my things
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: removed while we're sitting around and everything. And he was
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: just like, oh, okay, well, I'm going to hang out
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: with friend. I'll see you all later and everything else
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: because again, he was just like, I'm pretty sure he
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: knew that there was something feeding off that. But he
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 1: just figured if I ignored it, it would go away
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 1: and leave me be. And you can't have necessarily that
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: mindset when it comes to that. Now, when it was
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: only when I moved away from South Carolina and met
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: my wife at first time, I used to be battle
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: from drugs. I had a bad drug problem at the time.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: I went 22 days in a sleep Like I really
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: went off on the deep end, but when I got
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 1: off everything, I'd been clean for about three or four
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: months and I wasn't doing anything. I mean, I refused
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: and the medication doctor gave me. I didn't smoke any weed.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: I didn't drink. I didn't do anything. I was about
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: to go with cigarettes in general. I completely strayed away
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: from everything. Like I had a clear head. I moved
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: North Carolina to get away from everybody around here at
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: the time. There was dealing with drugs and stuff. I
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: didn't want to have no part of it because they
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: earned the last, there were that 22 days. I went
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: to the bathroom and I looked like a holocaust victim.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: I could count every single one of my ribs, my
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 1: eyes and cheeks were sinking in. I got normally, I
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: weighed about 200 pounds. I had got down to 135
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: pounds before I moved away. I gained about 10 pounds
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 1: back after being clean, but when I saw myself in
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: the mirror, it freaked me out and I was like, no,
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: I'm done. No more. I saw a chip myself in
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: the rehab and I was good. I was like, I'm
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: done with this. I'm going up here. I'm going to
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: go to the job firm, get my life together and
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: everything's going to be right. Like I said, I've come
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: up here. I'm like, my wife, we had a financial
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: trip right in. We get married a couple weeks before
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: we could have the kids and we move in and
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: things are initially fine. I had to talk about the
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: first couple of weeks when things started and it just
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: started happening like a little orbs would appear to be here,
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: occasional tapping and stuff. It's just like a little background stuff. Initially,
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: we just sat in the house still lying or whatever.
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: Just going about just a rubber routine of actually being
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: first-time parents and stuff and just like, it's not important.
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: It's whatever. But as things kept escalating, it became more
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: of a talking point. It just, wow, that was interesting.
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 1: That never came out of it until again, when we're
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: trying to have some type of a normal social deal
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: and people that we're talking about, hey, our place is haunted. Yeah, yes,
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: you're okay. Yeah, alright. No, no, we're not joking. You
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: want to stay here, you'll see. And then they come
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: up within three days and you're just like, oh my god,
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: you're right. I told you. Why did you think I
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 1: warned you? You're talking like, this is real cool. No,
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: you're saying down my hair is starting to get pulled
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: and everything, I stopped going, it scratches everything, it's like
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: it's starting to get on my cow. You're cool, Josh,
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: everything else, but we're going to go stay with friends. Okay,
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: that's fine. I mean, you're more of a mistaken, but
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: that's fine. We appreciate your offer, but we can't do this.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: I'm quick at it. I did it. Did he hear
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: you say earlier that you went ghost hunting as well
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: on the weekend? Well, I mean, I would go ghost
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: hunting on occasion and stuff like that. And never really
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: followed around because I mean, I never really would go
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: crazy with it. I could go check out a couple
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: of cemeteries. I'd take a couple of cameras and if
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: I caught something or asked them to cool, usually if
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: something would happen, my batteries would drain everything else and
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: I didn't care anything extra. I took out somewhere, my
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: stuff would die. I'm like, okay, well, that's the end
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: of that. We'll go ahead and go back to the house,
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: wherever else. And on occasion, you know, things would have
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: light up. But again, it's more like just to have
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: something to do, like some people may, you know, build
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: puzzles and do puzzles and everything else. I've always kind
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: of been interested in just like weird things, aliens, go, slottiness,
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: big food, all that stuff. I always found interesting, don't know.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: So again, when things start happening to house and just like, well, okay,
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: this is real. There must be a real thing. I
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: wonder if other places have this. So I'm going to say,
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: you know, I'll go check out this nut and the
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: other and not really ever happen to the extent I
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: would be at my own house. So did you start
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: doing this only after you moved into this place or
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: do you even do it beforehand? No, I mean, well,
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: pretty much. Like, there's a couple of times I went
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: and done, went to all, uh, Han house to go
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: see if I saw anything. But none of ever, wherever
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: you'd become of it. There's just more, like, we're all
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: just sitting around with friends and everything like, oh, I
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: don't know about this on the first. Hey, let's go
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: to God and let's go check it out. And everything else. Oh,
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: you're too scared to get out the car. No, give
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 1: me the crash, I'll go. You know, that kind of thing.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: And it was nothing serious like, you know, take a
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: EF meter or a tape quarter or not like that.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: Just like, okay, we're bored. Let's go check this out.
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: But whenever, when you're staying at the place and actually
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: seeing the stuff occur on the day of the day,
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: just like, you know, I can just sit up a
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: camera and everything else at it. You know, things that
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: happen regardless. I don't have to do nothing. I don't
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: have to try to be like, okay. Do you want
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: to communicate or anything like some candles or something? It
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: just be like any other, any Joe, go, whatever's in
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: house and stuff and things would just happen. And just like, okay,
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: you wasn't expecting it. Like, see you come on. Ready
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: would come on and change channels and stuff. Things like
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: that just like, okay, I wasn't expecting that, but okay,
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: I guess we're listening to the radio now. You don't
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: think any of your previous golf stunts outside the place
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: kind of opened you up to that or maybe you
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: brought something back with you or anything like that? I
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: think whenever doing the drugs and everything else and by
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: having you honestly think that me going out where I
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: did doing this stuff, I was doing kind of made
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: me open up my sixth sense to stuff while it's
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: kind of picking up things quicker than other people and stuff.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: I'd be, I was being clear of why in intuition,
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: wherever you want to call it. It was like, because
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: I opened up myself and doing all this stuff I
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: had done before and I got myself clean. Just for
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: the fact I had done 4, I cut that switch
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: on and I didn't know how to cut it off.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: I was saying like, I was psychic or not like
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: that or whatever. I would just be able to pick
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: up things quicker and everything else as opposed to, oh,
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: I'm getting a bad vibe here or whatever. Oh, is
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: there someone like looking at us or whatever else? Who's
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: that looking at the window? things like that before other
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: people would pick up on, I need to take picture
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: over here. Stuff like this, like, as I can say,
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to explain, but the best I
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: could come off with is like I said, doing the
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: stuff I had done before and it wasn't like, I
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: have like a pill problem, whatever. At that point, if it,
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: whatever somebody was hamming except for needles, I did everything
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: under sun, I did acid, I done trunes, I've done
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff, but like I said, done it
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: i had to experience put that notch on my life
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: belt and would let it alone just so i could
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: say oh are you out done that for i know
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: how that is but during all that stuff i think
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: it just maybe it opened up my pineal gland like
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: i said i was more sensitive to it yeah like
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: i said i would go places and stuff i'd go
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: to some terry's and everything and i hope people with
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: me take a good core more but I'll go to some,
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: be out with brand new batteries and stuff, be out
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: there for maybe 5 minutes and all of the, everything
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: I have on me cuts off. I flashed my camera,
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: my phone, everything on me would go all cut off
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: at the same time. And I said, okay, alright, y'all
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: cut on, I'm all my stuffs there, we're gonna go.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: And by the time we get back to the car,
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: everything has full charge to me. Yeah, it's hard, weird,
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 1: I know how it sounds saying it, but it's like
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: it knew I was sensitive to the thing. So it's like, hey,
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: let's go talk to this guy. whatever, let's try to
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: manifest over here. I don't know if anything ever had
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: followed me. I never personally felt anything, but there's no
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: way to say 100% sure yes it did or no
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: it didn't. There's a possibility at some point, maybe I
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: was somewhere, something attached and follow me to help initially
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: kick off everything that is a possibility. But to be
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: completely honest, I can't tell you 100% yes or no.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: I also feel like, I said, When we first got
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: there and it picked up off the kid's energy and
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: saw his twin and saw that I was sensitive and
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: so then it started like, being off everything. Like initially,
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: I would see the lights, I would see the orbs
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: and I'd thought, hey, Terry, do you see this or whatever. First,
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 1: you didn't see the orbs and she started seeing the orbs,
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: we would both see the lights. We had friends, the family,
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 1: see the lights, everything. They would always seem to be
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: around the kids and never hurt the kids. The kids
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: would never like one, two years old, just learn to
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: walk and talk. They would be in their room talking,
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: or whatever, to somebody staring at the corner and everything else.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: They would, oh, that's our friend. Yeah, it wasn't nothing bad.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: We never, oh my god, you know, got a room wherever.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: They said, oh, okay, we just figured, oh, that's your
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 1: imaginary friend or whatever. But they would always be talking
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: to somebody in their room and stuff and I felt
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 1: like whatever it was there was protecting them and just,
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: you know, nothing's going to happen to the kids. But
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: that's what I hope to believe is again, that's a
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 1: shout thing never did anything to the kids. It wanted
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: to break us all up. That's a guy like I said.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: when we were fighting over the most assing on thing
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: and so but being at church, strokes, non-stop 24 or
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: 7th of the moment we see each other, we were
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: starting to yell and cuss and fight there for months.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter what about whether it's something to
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: happen to ourselves at work or just like, hey, what
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: you do with my glasses? Why do you have to
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: have my glasses or whatever else? And oh, you took
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: my last $ 20 and things like that. Things that shouldn't
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 1: have turned into a big deal would escalate very quickly.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: And then that's when, with the energy being in the house,
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: that's when I could hear knocks, slamming around, seeing things
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: slide off the dresser and stuff like that. It was
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: probably trying to, it was probably trying to generate the
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: negative energy and then feed enough so it could move
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: things around by the sounds of it. But yeah, I
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: hope someone, maybe someone who's listening can give some more
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: insights because I mean, I'm not an expert on these things.
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I've said this is all stuff
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: that was occurring in everything else. I mean, I was
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: trying to hit the ground running, trying to piece everything together. Like,
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: do I just see what I just saw? I would,
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: for example, with the cigarette or not staying at a
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: stray and everything. Like, first thing I was thinking, okay,
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: is there a spider just knocked out a stray? If
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: it would have, wouldn't it just popped out, not just
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: wiggle and everything? Let me take everything out of a stray.
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: Let's try the skin, sit down. Watching it wiggle, wiggle, wiggle,
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: fly out a stray. What the hell? Stick it back
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: in there. Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle, wiggle, fly into the a stray.
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: Where then put it back in there and just the
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: mama sticking in there, it would cause some move like
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: someone's taking it in with their finger and just wiggle
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: it back and forth, like non-stop. And it just happened
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: the entire time I smoked cigarette. So I was like
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: 10 and during the entire time I smoked, I didn't
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: care about what was going on TV at the point.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: I was just sitting in the install, in rhythm, with
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: my astray, I mean, foot away from it, and just mesmerized.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 1: But I was just seeing the cigarette would not be
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 1: able to stay put. And then I heard it everywhere.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: I never, never, never mesmerized. I mean, the house could
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: have caught fire, whether I at this point, and just like, oh,
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: that's great. Why is this happening right now? And then
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: later on, like, itself found out that the father and
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: the father are still smoking and stuff. And like, what
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: that makes sense is he's smoking if he's here, if
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: he's probably going to do a cigarette. And that's one thing,
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: Todd's asking. I wonder if the original fire with the father.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: Maybe I wonder if that was actually not caused by,
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: and it wasn't an accident, maybe it was the shadow
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: that caused it, maybe it was the same thing, moving
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: the cigarette of yours. Could that have happened at the end?
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's possible that the family is there, but
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: it didn't have enough energy to ever like, the manifest
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: just being there. And the shadow was just taking forms
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: of like me and different things, just to give the
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: appearance like, oh, it's a family with this and all that.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: There's a lot to play games with us and everything.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: We could put something down. Be all one in the room. Like,
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: go to get dressed or something, that turn around and
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: the thing that's completely on the other side of the room,
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: or something that's completely in the room, or whatever. There
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: was like, for five months, I had lost my wallet.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: It had sit on a couch. And I completely flipped
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: the couch over, it took everything. I mean, like, ransacked
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: like police raid, flipping out, like, this is the only
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: money I have. Where is my wallet? Five months later,
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: it appears, just out of the blue. Like, here it is.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: The kids didn't find it. The boy else found it. Like, oh,
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: there it was. Everything's still there, whatever. Like, where the
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: hell did it go? I know, I know, couldn't them
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: well that their business was not in this room. I
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: gave up on it. I had bought another wallet and
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: you replaced my ID and everything else. Like, it just
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: moved on. And bam, there's my original wallet. Right where
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: initially I had it the very first time I went missing, like, what? Yeah,
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: it sounds freaky. Right. Oh, it's getting close to it.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: It's pretty much midnight here for me. So, I'm going
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: to have to wrap it up a little bit. It's
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: all done as well, but it's okay. So hopefully you
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: should have enough that we will work. And in the
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: next couple of weeks, all, I mean, what I'm having
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 1: to do is get a stick drive with Windows 10.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: I just got my laptop working. So all I got
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: to do is just get another stick drive and get
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: Windows 10, put on my old desktop. And I can
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: pull those, all the files I got, but anything weird on.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: I'll put them in zip file, whatever is sent to
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: you and everything else. Sort through whatever you need to
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: sort through, everything used, whatever you need to use. I mean,
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: I have to like, there's about nine and a half gigs,
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: tall of all pictures, including not just weird stuff, just
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 1: for the kid, ton of kids or just babies all
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: the way up until right before we moved to South Gond.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: So there's a lot I got sorted, but there should
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: be at least 40, 50 good pictures I'll be able
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: to see. Well, I'll be amazing if you could. Yeah,
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, I definitely want to be able to, like
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: I said, everything I can be able to share with
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: you and everything else to help, you know, peace to
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: scare for everybody to enjoy and everything else and all that.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: I definitely want to be able to do this because
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: it's been a long time coming to everything else. And
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: like I said, I know you do good work and
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you'll be able to make sense of all
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: of this and put it out for everybody to make,
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: make whatever they want to make out of it. But
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: like I said, the best I can do is like,
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 1: give you everything that you do at all. I try
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: to make a sound like I'm lazy or not like that.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: Maybe everything that you know, here's everything. No, no, you
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 1: put it together. Yeah, I mean, you give me them,
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: you give them me free content and I mean, it's,
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: it's you know, it'd be appreciated. What I would do
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: is I'll upload this as a like a podcast or
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know what to call this podcast. And then
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: if you send me some things over in the future,
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: I'll upload them separately, maybe make a folder or, you know,
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: something online or maybe make a video. If I have
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: any questions or whatever, if you want to do like
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 1: a follow up and stuff, if I'd people leave, I
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: didn't ever hit the things I may have forgotten or
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: didn't elaborate on enough, we definitely do a follow up
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: with the pictures, including everything else. It would be good. Yeah,
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: I'm doing my best right now. I'm going to sit
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: and give the whole time on, but I know like said,
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: once I already put it out there and everything else,
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: so these other parts one may have messed up on,
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: they've skipped or whatever else, but pretty much you got
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: about 89% of the entire thing right or off the rim.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: So they say, there might be other stuff I'm missing
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: wherever if anybody has any comments, questions, everything, I'd be
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: more than glad to answer anything like they have to
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: say or ask or anything like that. I mean, it's
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: one other thing I want to say that this might
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: sound like whatever, but this often, I mean, This goes
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: along with the story, but it also goes as something different. Now,
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 1: where do county, I stayed in, Transvania County, I know,
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: weird coincidence, two-thirds of the county is nothing but National Force,
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 1: it's the Pisco National Force and there's been over the
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: years a lot of mysterious disappearances around in the National
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: Force and stuff too. Where we stayed it was not
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: far away from the entrance to the Burge Parkway. Now
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know if there's something from the close Indies
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: woods or whatever. again going with the shadow thing. I
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: don't know if there's more entities or whatever else, dark
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: history going from the national force and stuff, but it
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: is an interesting note to point out, there's almost, it's
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: a line about mentioning this, but yeah, like I said,
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: two thirds of the county where I stayed at is
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: nothing but national force on by the government and everything
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 1: else and I know nobody has a lot of build
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: there and stuff, but over the past 100 years where
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 1: there's been many, many weird disappearances and stuff and a
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: lot of These things have to do with waterfalls and stuff.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 1: There's 200 known waterfalls in this county alone and there's
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: just a lot of weird stuff that's already been there anyway.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I said more, I delved into it
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 1: the weird it gets, but with that shadow thing being
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: pretty much right next door of the side of the
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: fence of the National Force, maybe there's other things that
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  Speaker 1: I was out there, maybe it wasn't this there, shadow thing,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. But it is an interesting thing to
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  Speaker 1: make note of. I imagine that I also imagine that
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  Speaker 1: at one point in the forest extended right up to
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  Speaker 1: where the apartment was. I mean, pretty much when you
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 1: look at a map on Google Maps of Transmining County
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  Speaker 1: is pretty much where everybody stays at is within 5
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  Speaker 1: miles of a highway that stretches from Toxelay County to
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  Speaker 1: Henderson County and along the southern border of the county
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  Speaker 1: right next to where it's out of the corner and
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  Speaker 1: right above that for about 5 or 6 counties is
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  Speaker 1: the Blue Ridge Parkway which extends to the Appalachian Trail
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  Speaker 1: that goes from Georgia all the way up to Maine.
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  Speaker 1: and there's just thousands, thousands miles of unexplored untouched wilderness
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  Speaker 1: and everything else. And historically, there's been lots of many disappearances,
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  Speaker 1: lots of weird things that's always happened up there that people,
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  Speaker 1: they have long ago stories and everything else in there,
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  Speaker 1: but it's just hearing and passing stuff. Actually, all I
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  Speaker 1: can say is what's happened to me, but it is
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  Speaker 1: interesting to note that if this thing came from the
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  Speaker 1: forest has something to do with the forest, it is
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  Speaker 1: worth note that the wherever it is still lingers around
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  Speaker 1: in these woods to this day. I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: long it's been there. If they have been there for
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  Speaker 1: hundreds of years and I've been there only 30, I
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  Speaker 1: really don't know, but it feels old and knows what
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  Speaker 1: it's doing and knows how to mess with people. That's
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  Speaker 1: all I can say.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I think if it feels old, I think, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you should go with your gut on something like this. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the things that we're doing... the thing like
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  Speaker 1: I said, the things that was doing in new, like
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  Speaker 1: it was trying to drive you crazy. It knew that
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  Speaker 1: if I mess with your head enough, get your state
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  Speaker 1: of fear enough, I can have you where I want you.
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  Speaker 1: And what it doesn't just like to focus on us,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, it was jumping from apartment to apartment.
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  Speaker 1: Other people have their own experiences, but they were just like,
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  Speaker 1: it would happen maybe once a month or once every
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  Speaker 1: few months. Us, it was the day-to-day basis. But like
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  Speaker 1: I said, it wandling around this one hill, which is
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: like a perfect cone trip. It may have been Indian
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: Burial Mountain. I said, if I, you know, doing more research,
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  Speaker 1: it probably is the Indian Burial Mountain. It's how perfectly
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  Speaker 1: round and pointed it is. It doesn't look like a
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  Speaker 1: natural hill. It very, very, very, very may well be
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  Speaker 1: at old Indian Burial Mountain. What's the hill called? Does
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  Speaker 1: it got a name? Well, the road on top of
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  Speaker 1: it is called Lollipop Lane. So I just call it
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  Speaker 1: Lollipop Hill. All right. I mean, there's no official name,
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  Speaker 1: but like I said, going, when I've walked my kids
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  Speaker 1: up this hill a few times, picking blackberries and things
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  Speaker 1: like that. But at the very top, there's a road
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  Speaker 1: that lines kind of spiral down called Lollipop Lane. And
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: originally there was going to be a little something there.
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  Speaker 1: but nothing ever got built. So at the very top
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: of this place is about the area, about half the
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: size of football field, just perfectly clear. And you can
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: see from miles in any direction, because again, we're right
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of Burwitz Mountain. So you can see
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: all around it and everything else. But it's kind of
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: like a little isolated hill, but the roads continue to
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 1: go further, further up until you get into Natural Forest.
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  Speaker 1: This is kind of like a tail end like where
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: it skirts around to the city and everything else. But
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 1: right there at the edge, there's the Indian Burial Mountain.
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  Speaker 1: So this is Lollipop Lane. Is it Brevard County? Is
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: it Transylvania County? Brevard is the name of city. Right.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: Brevard City. Brevard is named the city Transylvania County is
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: where it's at. And it's right above Pickens County. And
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: so Pickens County, South Carolina, they're right above that is
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: Transylvania County. Right at, yes. Right next door to South Carolina,
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  Speaker 1: but it's right in the mountains and North Carolina. Right. Well, hopefully.
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: So I'm listening. I have some information on the area.
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  Speaker 1: You never know. Aha. I also have anybody noticed anything.
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: but please follow me and just help elaborate. So I
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: can personally get some answers and everything else. And yeah,
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, this has been a part of my life
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  Speaker 1: since I was 18 and I'm 33 now. And I've
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: still got unanswered questions about all this, what's happened and stuff.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: And I've been trying to piece together over the years. What,
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: you know, what all this was, why did it necessary
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: have to happen to my family and everything? All this,
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: who went where? Why all these questions that I don't
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: occasion you might get answered? But I might never get
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 1: all the answers from it and everything. Like, do I
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: ever want to experience parallel stuff again? I wouldn't mind it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it didn't necessarily hurt me per se until
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: near the end, but that's when I think Xiao Thing
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: got involved. I don't have any problems about going to
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 1: haunted places and stuff like that. I find it interesting.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've got to church myself and everything. I've
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: gotten to what I'm religious now and everything. I don't
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 1: do any say-outs as I don't do any of which
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 1: crap I don't do anything. Along any of those signs
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 1: where I feel like I want to invite new energy,
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 1: but again, if you happen to be like, oh, well,
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 1: I live near a lot of Ness. Oh, I'm going
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: to see if I'm going to take picture of Nessie.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm going to go out there to dock
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  Speaker 1: and try to see if I'm going to take picture
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  Speaker 1: of Nessie. It's just there, you know what I'm saying. Alright. So,
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: what about, I know people can leave comments, but what
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: if they wanted to contact you personally, would they be
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: able to put some kind of like an email or something? Yeah, sure. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: my email is obeseclown, obesque. C-L-O-W-N at gmail dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Might not necessarily be able to respond right off the rip,
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: but within at least a day, whatever, I'll do my
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: best if anybody wants to email me or whatever if
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: they want to ask questions or leave any comments or
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: tell me anything that's fine. Any ridiculous comments or whatever,
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: obviously I'm just going to ignore or whatever, but anybody's
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: truly interested in stuff. Yeah, I mean, you might get
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: some of that. Yeah, if anybody wants to know, that's
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: all fake or just pull it out or whatever, Yeah,
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: I'm not, I don't have time for it, but if
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: anybody with a jet has it, you know, real interesting
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: and want to know more about it, that I've been
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: in this, right now by all means, I love talking
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: about this kind of thing and what happened, you know,
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: best I can explain it and stuff. I mean, you
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: have to excuse my accent and everything because I am
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 1: for myself. I don't mind. I don't mind. I like it.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: I ain't got no problems on answering any questions, stuff
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: and again, being by this guy, you know, and help
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: elaborate and, you know, explaining this and the other or whatever,
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: maybe at some point I did something or whatever unintentionally
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: that invited stuff or whatever else, anything any answers whether
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  Speaker 1: I'm more than glad to, you know, welcome all of it. Yeah, cool.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: All right, well, I think I'm going to wrap it
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  Speaker 1: up here because unless there's anything else to add because
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 1: then it's getting leaked from me, I'm going to be
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: up early. I find, yeah, I'm, like I said, it's, it's,
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: it's where I'm just very glad that we're able to
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 1: do something. I mean, personally, it's been years in the making.
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: I'm just, I'm very excited and so thankful. I want
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: to thank you again for taking time to you know
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 1: let's stop this and everything oh well thank you for
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: coming on i mean like you know you've put a
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: set of time to to talk to me i mean
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: i've been i've been looking forward to this for a
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 1: long while stuff i've made had a couple of few
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: strings and everything to be able to make sure I
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: had time to get this done. But like I said,
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: I want to thank you that, you know, we were
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 1: able to make this work and I could be able
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 1: to share my story. Alright. Well, I hope it's all
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 1: recorded properly. I think it has. I'll get the recording
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: up hopefully by the end of this week. But okay.
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 1: Sounds good. So yeah. I really appreciate you taking your
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 1: time out to talk to me and share your story
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 1: and thank you for taking time. Listen to me, Ram. Hi, everything.
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 1: I hope that people, I think people have enjoyed it.
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: So yeah, thank all of y'all that took time to
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 1: listen to my story and everything and like like I
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: was telling him that everything I've done told you, it's fantastic.
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 1: And as crazy as it sounds, it's 100% real. One
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 1: person happened. And I mean, it might sound whatever to you.
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 1: But again, all I can say is this happened to me.
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 1: This is my story. Make of it what you will.
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 1: If you think I'm telling you truth, awesome. If you
• 1:59:41
  Speaker 1: think I'm making it up, that's fine too. But just
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 1: please don't send all hateful comments where I'm not, you know, whatever.
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 1: I don't, yeah, that's all I'll say. Alright, well, yeah,
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 1: if that's it, I'm going to end it here. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I hope something comes of this. Should be good. Should
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  Speaker 1: be a good video. Alright. Awesome. Awesome. Alright, man. Alright,
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  Speaker 1: I'll talk to you later. Alright, man. Have a good day.
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  Speaker 1: You too.