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Former South Florida QB Matt Grothé On The Bulls Offense · 4th AND BULL

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to fourth and bowl presented by blue Tara. My
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  Speaker 1: name is Nick wise. Today's show is it's a fun one.
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  Speaker 1: So we don't necessarily preview Saturday's game. So I will
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  Speaker 1: say this, this, this podcast is pretty relevant. Honestly, probably
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  Speaker 1: for the next couple of weeks and maybe even longer,
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  Speaker 1: but Matt growthy, former quarterback at USF going to join
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  Speaker 1: us on the show. And he's going to give us
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  Speaker 1: great insight on the offense. I think that's what everybody's
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  Speaker 1: kind of been looking for on this podcast is someone
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  Speaker 1: to really kind of tell us what's wrong with the
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  Speaker 1: offense and can kind of explain it that the average
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  Speaker 1: person on the surface might not understand. So I think
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  Speaker 1: you're going to really enjoy this conversation I had with Matt.
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  Speaker 1: We talk about heartline as a coach. We talk about
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  Speaker 1: Tim Beck. We talk about play calling everything that you
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  Speaker 1: guys wanted to know. Plus a shout out to the bulls, pen.com.
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  Speaker 1: I did post in there asking you guys for your
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  Speaker 1: questions and, Got through a majority of the questions that
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  Speaker 1: were asked on there. So I appreciate you guys hopping
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  Speaker 1: on and, you know, chiming in with your feedback there.
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  Speaker 1: So thank you guys so much. Before we get into
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  Speaker 1: Here you go, guys. Matt Grothy on 4th & Bull.
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  Speaker 2: Enjoy.
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  Speaker 1: Matt, first I want to say thank you so much
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  Speaker 1: for taking the time to come on. I appreciate it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And.
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  Speaker 1: What have you been up to these days? What have
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  Speaker 1: you been up to lately?
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  Speaker 2: Whole career change in the last year.
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  Speaker 3: I was in the beer business for almost 14 years
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  Speaker 3: and got out of it and.
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  Speaker 2: Had lunch one day with a buddy of mine probably
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  Speaker 2: about a year ago.
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  Speaker 3: 14 months ago or so, that works for Bank of
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  Speaker 3: America and was like, did you get a math degree?
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And he's like, well, why don't you, um, it's like,
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  Speaker 3: why don't you do what I'm doing? So I started
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  Speaker 3: studying for some exams and I, I'm a financial advisor,
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  Speaker 3: financial representative now. Um, and right after Christmas, I ended
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  Speaker 3: up wanting to expand my portfolio and I went ahead
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  Speaker 3: and got my, um, my health and life insurance, uh,
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  Speaker 3: license as well. So doing a lot this year has been, um,
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  Speaker 3: This year's been awesome. It's an up and down business
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  Speaker 3: for sure, but every day is fun. So it's been
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  Speaker 3: a good year and I'm enjoying myself. So if anybody
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  Speaker 3: needs health life insurance or wants to roll over a 401k,
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  Speaker 3: hit me up.
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  Speaker 1: Matt's got you taken care of. I saw you. I
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  Speaker 1: saw you tweet out during the game. It was during
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  Speaker 1: Kent State where you're like you're laying on the couch
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  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden heard your name in the broadcast. Dude,
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  Speaker 1: I related that so much related to that so much
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  Speaker 1: because I can't remember if it was just before your
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  Speaker 1: shout out. The podcast got a shout out. And then
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  Speaker 1: I saw your tweet and I'm like, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: Matt Grothy right now. Like I was just sitting on
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  Speaker 1: the couch and I did not expect the shout out
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  Speaker 1: from TJ, which was cool.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Were you just kind of laying there? I mean, I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure that's happened to you a few times where you're
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  Speaker 1: just kind of laying there, and all of a sudden
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  Speaker 1: you get a shout-out watching the USF game.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know if anybody knows what I'm talking about,
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  Speaker 3: but if you get on TikTok sometimes, you'll see these
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  Speaker 3: long videos, and you start watching it, and you're like,
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  Speaker 3: why am I watching this? And when it ends, you
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  Speaker 3: go to the comments, and a lot of people will
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  Speaker 3: put that there's like an Asian guy laying on the couch.
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  Speaker 2: Meme? Yes. Yes, that's exactly how I was laying on
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  Speaker 2: the couch watching the game.
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  Speaker 1: The one where the Asian guy's like looking at his
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  Speaker 1: phone or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: No shirt on, itching my chest, watching the game. And
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden I was like, did they just
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  Speaker 2: say my name? And I was like.
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  Speaker 1: That's awesome. There was actually one of the questions that
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  Speaker 1: we had gotten from the audience from TheBullsPen.com, which is
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  Speaker 1: one of the sponsors of the show, so shout out
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  Speaker 1: to them. They wanted to hear some stories about the
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  Speaker 1: glory days, Auburn, West Virginia game, in your relationship with Leavitt,
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  Speaker 1: any good UCF stories they wanted to hear from you on.
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  Speaker 3: Weird that you just said the name Leavitt. I talk
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  Speaker 3: to Jim maybe once every four to six months. I'll
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  Speaker 3: write him a text or he'll send me a random text.
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  Speaker 3: An hour ago, I got a text message.
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  Speaker 2: From Jim, and I don't know if he's.
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  Speaker 3: Sitting at a bar or what he's doing, but he
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  Speaker 3: was like, I'm watching all these quarterbacks this.
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  Speaker 2: Year and.
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  Speaker 3: Something about the Big East, and we had a great
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  Speaker 3: non-conference schedule, and you dominated, and you didn't even play
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  Speaker 3: your senior year. I just want to say I miss
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  Speaker 3: you and appreciate everything you did. And it was the
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  Speaker 3: most random text I've ever gotten from him.
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  Speaker 2: But it was also... Jim was never like that.
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  Speaker 3: When I was playing, he let me be. But at
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  Speaker 3: the same time, if I messed up, he got my ass.
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  Speaker 2: And even... I mean, the nicest thing.
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  Speaker 3: personal that he's ever talked to me about was at
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  Speaker 3: my hall of fame induction. And to hear that today
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  Speaker 3: was literally the first time I'm 40 years old. First
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  Speaker 3: time since I was, I mean, I've known the guy
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  Speaker 3: since I was 18, 17, 18.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And have never had him tell me something like that.
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  Speaker 3: And it was one of the, it was honestly one
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  Speaker 3: of the coolest moments of my life.
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  Speaker 2: And it happened an hour ago.
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  Speaker 3: So, uh, yeah, Jim, uh, I love Jim forever. Uh,
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  Speaker 3: I can sit there and I'll sit there and rip
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  Speaker 3: UCF all day. If you want me to do that, I,
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  Speaker 3: that's cool. Can go kick rocks. Uh, there's too much
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  Speaker 3: between having my phone number, uh, exploited.
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  Speaker 1: Um, Oh, did they do that to you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, what I think it was sophomore year, sophomore
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  Speaker 2: or junior year. They got ahold.
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  Speaker 3: I posted, I had a truck and I posted it
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  Speaker 3: on sale. On Facebook Marketplace. And somebody figured out that
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  Speaker 3: it was my truck. And my phone number was attached
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  Speaker 3: to it. And we get to... We're about 30 minutes
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  Speaker 3: away from Orlando. Playing them.
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  Speaker 2: That was the game that went to overtime. So that... Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that was my junior year. And... All of a sudden,
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  Speaker 2: my phone starts blowing up. I'm getting phone calls. I'm
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  Speaker 2: getting texts. I'm getting... Just all kinds of stuff, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, what is going on? And then we get
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  Speaker 2: to the game.
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  Speaker 3: Coming at halftime, my phone, I have over 5,000 messages,
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  Speaker 3: and my voicemail is completely filled up.
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  Speaker 2: And lo and behold, somebody tells me, hey, they.
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  Speaker 3: Have a 30-foot banner of your phone number on an
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  Speaker 3: ESPN game.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. in the student section.
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  Speaker 3: So as I scored in the third quarter, I had
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  Speaker 3: a rushing touchdown in the third quarter, that game. And
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  Speaker 3: it was right in the student section. And I put my,
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  Speaker 3: put my hand up next to my helmet as I
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  Speaker 3: was running through by their student section. That's so funny. But,
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  Speaker 3: but yeah, and then I had to change my phone number.
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  Speaker 1: So now the UCF rivalry is, is, is absolutely one
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  Speaker 1: that as a college football fan, I just miss in general.
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  Speaker 1: I wish it's something that would come back. Do you
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  Speaker 1: think that is something that is going to come back?
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  Speaker 1: And I know there was the talk of the two-for-one,
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  Speaker 1: and obviously Higgins said no to that. Just your kind
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  Speaker 1: of thoughts on that overall, not happening, and then would
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  Speaker 1: you give in for the two-for-one or hell no to them?
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  Speaker 2: No. I mean, apparently I can cuss on here. Fuck no. No, no.
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  Speaker 3: Little bro over in Orlando can do a one-for-one or...
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  Speaker 3: a two for two, but I think it'll all end
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  Speaker 3: up working out in the future. I mean, there's, I
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  Speaker 3: feel like every five or six years, there's a new
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  Speaker 3: alignment and all this will end up playing half happening
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  Speaker 3: to play each other every year, some, sometime down the road.
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  Speaker 3: But I mean, it is what it is. You know,
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  Speaker 3: they got, they got out of the, conference they were
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  Speaker 3: in and we're able to jump up and now we're
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  Speaker 3: just waiting our turn. So, um, but yeah, I would
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  Speaker 3: definitely a hundred percent love to see that.
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  Speaker 2: That should be, that should be a game played. And I,
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  Speaker 2: and I know that there's a lot of.
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  Speaker 3: People in Orlando that hate me, but they'll agree with this,
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  Speaker 3: that that game should be played every Friday after Thanksgiving.
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  Speaker 1: No, I agree as a college, like when we first
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  Speaker 1: started this podcast, I had said, as a college football fan,
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  Speaker 1: I would take the two-for-one. I said, as USF, and
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  Speaker 1: if I'm Rob Higgins, I wouldn't take it. But as
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  Speaker 1: a college football fan just desperate for the rivalry, I
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  Speaker 1: said I would because we don't have... Oklahoma Oklahoma State
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  Speaker 1: anymore Oregon Oregon State like we just we've lost all
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  Speaker 1: the Washington and Washington State play at the beginning of
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  Speaker 1: the year I just feel like we've lost so many
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  Speaker 1: rivalries and rivalries is what makes college football better than
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  Speaker 1: the NFL because you don't have those true rivalries you
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  Speaker 1: know and I think rivalries in the NFL I think
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  Speaker 1: Packers and Bears but it's it's not the same as
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  Speaker 1: USF UCF or Michigan and Ohio State or Oklahoma and
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  Speaker 1: Texas like I'm glad we got Texas and Texas A
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  Speaker 1: & M back but we just we've lost so many
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  Speaker 1: rivalries and so as a college football fan I'm just
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  Speaker 1: so desperate to have anything back I'll give up anything
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  Speaker 1: but I also understand USF's point not giving into that
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  Speaker 1: two for one it makes complete sense but it is
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  Speaker 1: a rivalry that I that I wish would come back
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  Speaker 1: soon What do you think happens with USF in the
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  Speaker 1: future as far as realignment? It kind of feels like
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  Speaker 1: the momentum is there, and if it goes anywhere, it
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  Speaker 1: kind of feels like the ACC, but I think the
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  Speaker 1: Big 12 probably an option as well.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, 100% agree. One of those two. I feel like
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  Speaker 2: I say this every year, and I don't know exactly
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  Speaker 2: when the next– I know it's coming up– what, probably
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  Speaker 2: next two to three, maybe four years away when they're
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  Speaker 2: going to have to realign everything.
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  Speaker 3: But I think it'll finally end up being just a
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  Speaker 3: big four where Super Conference, pretty sure there's a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people that think that too, but anywhere from 16
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  Speaker 3: to 20 teams in a conference and play it out
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  Speaker 3: that way. Where we end up, who knows? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I've been to multiple practices this year, and I've actually
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  Speaker 3: even asked that question to people that I thought.
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  Speaker 2: Would know a slimmer of an answer, and they look
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  Speaker 2: at me like I couldn't. Yeah. So, I mean, at
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  Speaker 2: the end of the day, it's going to be– it'll
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  Speaker 2: all work out in the end.
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  Speaker 3: I think that– especially with the stadium being built and
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  Speaker 3: us– I can't wait for that Louisville game. That's going
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  Speaker 3: to be awesome. I think that helps a lot.
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  Speaker 2: We're in a top 10, 12 market.
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  Speaker 3: 11 TV market. There's no way that it's not going
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  Speaker 3: to happen. It's just a matter of when it's going
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  Speaker 3: to happen. Just sit here and watch us.
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  Speaker 2: Struggle. God, this year has been driving me nuts.
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about this year. What has been driving you
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  Speaker 1: nuts the most? Because that's what's interesting about this season.
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  Speaker 1: And obviously hearing from a lot of USF fans weekly
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  Speaker 1: doing this show. And I get the same feeling. Like
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  Speaker 1: I said, I'm buying in as I pay attention to
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  Speaker 1: every game and become a fan myself. You're 5-2, but
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  Speaker 1: at the same time, every game, you leave the game
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  Speaker 1: and you're like, Like FIU in the beginning of the year,
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  Speaker 1: you're not happy with that, the way that that game
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  Speaker 1: flow went. You're like, all right, it's the first game
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  Speaker 1: of the year. And then it kind of just continued.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the Army had a happy ending in that game.
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  Speaker 1: But like every week, it's like the same thing. It
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  Speaker 1: takes a while to get everything going. You're frustrated. And
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  Speaker 1: then they end up even covering the spread usually. But
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  Speaker 1: even afterwards, you're like, I'm not happy with what I
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  Speaker 1: saw today. What do you think it is with USF?
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  Speaker 1: Like they seem to do good on the first– drive
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  Speaker 1: the scripted plays and then after that they kind of
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  Speaker 1: stall out until the second half like what do you
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  Speaker 1: think the big issue is on offense.
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  Speaker 3: I mean honestly this is the first year i've watched
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  Speaker 3: games and and not quite understood it um.
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  Speaker 2: Like pre-season when i would when i was at a
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  Speaker 2: couple of.
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  Speaker 3: Practices our offense looked i was like i i wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: want to play this team when i was playing And
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  Speaker 3: there was no drops.
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  Speaker 2: I think that has a huge part to do with it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I know coaches all over their ass because I've seen
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  Speaker 3: it firsthand. But, you know, there's been a lot of
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  Speaker 3: opportunities that.
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  Speaker 2: We could have either dug ourselves out of a hole
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  Speaker 2: or not been in a hole. with drops. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: We've had more drops this year, I feel like, than
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  Speaker 2: I've ever seen before. There's just all over the place. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the.
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  Speaker 3: Funny part is everybody talks that the offense isn't playing well.
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  Speaker 3: We're not turning the ball over, which is awesome. And
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  Speaker 3: our defense is playing well. If you look paper to paper,
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  Speaker 3: defense side of the ball and offense side of the ball,
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  Speaker 3: and just look at stats, you're like, oh, this team's
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  Speaker 3: got to be 7-0, but we're just– I don't really
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  Speaker 3: have an answer as to why it's not happening. It's
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  Speaker 3: just not– like you said, they come out, they start well.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, every game I'm like, oh, this is going
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  Speaker 3: to be– it's going to be a great night. And
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  Speaker 3: then by the end of the night I'm sitting at
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  Speaker 3: the bar drinking outside my back porch, looking at TV,
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  Speaker 3: like what is going on?
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  Speaker 1: Every game feels literally the exact same every single time. And,
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  Speaker 1: and kind of like you said, you'd go to practice,
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  Speaker 1: you see they're practicing well, and you hear from heartline,
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  Speaker 1: they had a great week of practice and then they
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  Speaker 1: get on the field and it's like, is it an
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  Speaker 1: execution issue? Is it the style of offense? Is it
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  Speaker 1: play calling you? You know, when it, when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to the X's and O's sides, do you, do you
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  Speaker 1: see a play calling issue in your opinion? Or is
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  Speaker 1: it more of an execution thing? What, What do you
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  Speaker 1: think isn't clicking for them to be good for four
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  Speaker 1: solid quarters?
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  Speaker 3: I would agree with some of those people with the
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  Speaker 3: play calling. It would be nice to.
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  Speaker 2: I.
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  Speaker 3: Don't even know the word I'm trying to think of.
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  Speaker 3: Just go out and play. Don't be conservative. I really
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  Speaker 3: honestly think with... This is probably an issue in the
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  Speaker 3: entire country with a lot of teams, especially when you
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  Speaker 3: have a new coach that comes in and you lose
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  Speaker 3: a lot of players and you get a lot of
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  Speaker 3: new players in. I don't think there's a true, true
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  Speaker 3: leader on the team, or at least on the offensive
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  Speaker 3: side of the ball.
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  Speaker 2: You have to have... I.
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  Speaker 3: Have no issues with our defense. I think our defense is,
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  Speaker 3: especially with how many times the offense has put the
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  Speaker 3: defense to bad positions and they've been able to hold
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  Speaker 3: their own.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Bowling Green, perfect example of that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And you just have to, you have to have a,
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  Speaker 3: a mother fuck mentality sometimes. And you have to have
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  Speaker 3: somebody on that offense side of the ball. I don't
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  Speaker 3: give a shit if it's the quarterback or if it's
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  Speaker 3: a center or if it's a receiver or if it's
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  Speaker 3: a running back, but you have to have somebody on
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  Speaker 3: there that, needs to get everybody going and everybody hyped up.
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  Speaker 3: And I just don't, this many games in and watching it,
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  Speaker 3: like you said, every week's the same. It's like, I'm, I'm,
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  Speaker 3: I feel like I'm 65 by the end of the
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  Speaker 3: games over. And I'm like, this is not good for
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  Speaker 3: my health. And just lack, lackadaisical. I mean, it's just like, there,
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  Speaker 3: there's no, Watching the game, I don't feel there's a
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  Speaker 3: dire need to.
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  Speaker 2: Win at times.
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  Speaker 1: I was talking, I had Bryson Rogers on the show,
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  Speaker 1: and someone had pointed out that when him and I
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  Speaker 1: were talking, he made a comment about how complicated the
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  Speaker 1: offense is. Do you think that the system is very
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  Speaker 1: complex in having a group of kids where there's 61
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  Speaker 1: new players from... Coming into the program, do you think
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  Speaker 1: this offense is very complex and it's just taken these
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  Speaker 1: guys a long time to learn it? But my problem
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  Speaker 1: with that is that I feel like every year is
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: going to be kind of... We kind of talked about
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: it on Twitter one day. It feels like every year
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: they're going to have a lot of new players. So
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: is this offense always going to be a problem going
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: forward if that's the problem?
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: I mean... I mean, like you said, everybody's dealing with
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: the same issues. So.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: If they can figure it out, we can figure it out.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Maybe it's a translation issue. Not every person, not every kid,
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: not every child, not every grown-ass adult works the same,
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: especially when it comes to their thinking and their understanding.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: So if it is an issue, then it should be
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: brought up and should be talked about and simplified. I mean,
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: there's nothing really else to be said about that except
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: for if you have players sitting there saying that it's
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: a very complex offense, well then dumb it down to
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: where we get our top 20, 30, 40 plays and
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: go from there and then build off of it. If
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: they're struggling with learning... You know, dozens and dozens of
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: plays are understated. concepts, look at film. That's what film's for.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: The biggest thing in the world you could do is
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: watch film. Ask any NFL quarterback that's ever played, what's
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: the biggest thing.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: You learned from his film?
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: And if, hey, this is working, okay, let's stick to
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: this or concepts like this, you know?
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: What are your overall thoughts on the quarterback play from
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Michael Van Buren Jr.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: I don't have an issue, minus the mentality. I wish
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: he would be more vocal. I don't think he's playing bad.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: I think he's playing where he needs to be playing.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: He has had an unfortunate amount of drops.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: I will give him that.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: He's missed a couple of throws, but for the most part,
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: I mean, He's, he's not playing bad.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: It's just, I don't know.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: It's a weird year. Normally I could sit here and
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: rip certain parts of, of, of what's happening on the field,
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: but it's just.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: A weird year.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Cause I, it's like, we're not playing bad. Then why
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: aren't we scoring points? And it's like, we'll start doing
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: something and then something just, happens and it's here's a
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: penalty or here's a drop or we just.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know I.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Don't know I feel better about my football intelligence knowing
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: you're just as confused as me when I watch this team.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: It's wild this year I honestly thought the worst possible
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: record that.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: We could have this year would be.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: If we went out 10-2 I thought we would go
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: 11-1 or have a chance to go run the table and.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: I'm hoping for nine wins at this point, eight.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Conferences is still alive, but do you, you think
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: that's a realistic goal that they can achieve this year?
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, they'd have to win out.
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: Um, I think that's possible. I, I, I'm glad we
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: had a bi-week when we had a bi-week, um, maybe,
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: maybe some of that stuff that you were just talking
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: about was figured out.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Um, How much better can a team get during the
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: bye week?
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, you can get a lot better. You get
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: a lot healthier. I know that.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's an extra week of guys that are
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: not where they need to be to get to where
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: they need to be. But at the same time, you
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: get to sit down for an extra week and actually.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Digest what has happened.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Why are we not scoring this amount of points? Why
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: are we allowing this amount of points? Why are we
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: not converting on this down. You can sit there and
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: actually have those talks and not worry. You know, cause
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: that first week, I guarantee if it's anything like when
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: I was in school, that, that first week, that bi-week week,
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: you don't, you hardly, you don't touch the team you're
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: playing until that Thursday or Friday, the first three or
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: four days, you're trying to figure out what's going on,
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: what we need to work on, what needs to be fixed,
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: what's doing well.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Um, ask questions. I think, I don't know, that might
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: be an issue for all I know.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: The people that are on the field are the most
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: important people for the team.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: Ask them questions.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: It's like when you're in a meeting room, over the
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: years I've sat down in numerous quarterback meeting rooms and
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: asked questions. That was always one of my favorite parts
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: of Coach Canales, when I was playing, he would always
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: ask me a question.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: What happened here? What did you see here?
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: And I always try to do that whenever I get
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: an opportunity to sit in a quarterback meeting room or
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: with the team and just be like, what did you
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: see here? Why did you do this? And you have
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: to understand. You should have an answer for everything. You
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: might not have an answer for messing up when you're
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: on the field, but you should learn from it and
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: figure it out and be able to have an answer
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: when it comes to film and that hopefully that's some
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: of the things that have been going.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: On the last two weeks.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: And, and we come out and I hope to come
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: out and ball out because I'm, I'm tired of staring
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: at the sky at 11 o'clock at night.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Oh, and it's a noon game. So you got a
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: whole Saturday you need to enjoy. And it all really
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: depends on these guys. And it's Halloween. A lot of
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: questions on the pro style offense. Um, Um, and, and
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: does it work at USF? And if there was any
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: adjustments you would make to this offense that when you're
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: watching on Saturdays, uh.
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: I'll play the fifth on that one. I'm a, I
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: don't think, I think we're cursed with the pro style offense.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: I'm a, obviously I was able to use my, use
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: my legs and my arm when I played.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: So, and it's always worked.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: Didn't more, uh, obviously quitting flowers, um, blew up because
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: they changed the offense and let him use his legs.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: I think with the athleticism in Central Florida, hell, Florida
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: as a whole, let.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Your players play.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Maybe it works in certain parts of the country, but
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: college football.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: you gotta, you have to.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Have some sort of an athlete at quarterback and, and
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: then you have to build from there. And I mean,
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: it's shown that for hell 20 plus years now, you know,
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: the first person that comes to mind where you talk
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: about athleticism and it's, this is going way back is
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: I used to love Vince young.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. And watching him play and, they don't win
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: the national championship game if he's a pocket passer, you know, he.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Has a running touch. I mean, in that Rose bowl
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: victory over USC as well, where he ran it into
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: the end zone.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: And you have to have that nowadays. And, you know, I,
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: I don't, I don't, I don't dislike the offense. We're,
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: we're trying to run, but at the same time, I
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: think you have a quarterback that, and he's already shown
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: it this year, multiple times that if he needs to,
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: get up and go he can get up and go
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: so maybe let him free up and do his thing
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: a little bit more I love watching him when they
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: let him play he can play and I feel like
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: there's times where they are worried about him playing which
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: I don't know if that makes sense or not but
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: it just let the kid play.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Is making a change to the offense and the style
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: of the offense something that you can actually change in season,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: or is that something that you would have to do
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: in the offseason going into next year?
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you could have done some— it goes piggybacks
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: off of what I was saying earlier. That could be
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: some little things or adjustments that could have been done,
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: especially if.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Players are saying that it's complex.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: You may not have to change the whole offense or
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: change anything about the offense, but But do.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Narrow it down on that bye week.
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: Narrow it down to, hey, give me your top 15
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: plays that you've done this year and put a combination
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: of the top 30, 40 plays of the kids that
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: are on the field.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: And go from there. Build off of that. That's the
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: biggest thing.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: You can sit there and make a million plays on
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: a piece of paper, but not everyone's going to work
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: the same way and not everyone's going to work for
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: the same team.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: So you got to figure out your kids.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: You got to figure out your players and you're in the,
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: in the way that they respond to certain, certain plays,
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: certain Jesse Hester.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: For example, when I played Jesse didn't have a route.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: Every time, Jesse, every time we threw a pass, I would,
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: give instructions of what the play was, and I would
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: look at Jesse and say, just run an eight-yard option route.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: Because Jesse was always good at if what I needed
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: to look at wasn't open, I knew I could come
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: back because Jesse was either going to take a left
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: at eight yards or take a right at eight yards.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: And he was always really good at knowing which way
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: to go. So if my first read wasn't there, I'd
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: come back to Jesse, and we just had this connection
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: where I knew.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: They didn't know which way he was going, but I've
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: seen it so many times that I knew which way
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: he was going. And I can't tell you how many
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: times that I would sat in the huddle and was like,
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: would call a play and just was like, what am
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: I doing?
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: I'm like, eight yard option. Catch the ball. Cause it's
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: probably coming to you, buddy.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: That's great. Somebody asked if you could plug in any
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: current or former USF wide receiver into your time as quarterback,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: who would it be?
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Ooh, like steal somebody.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like a wide receiver on this team. Is there
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: one on this team that you would love to have
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: had on your team?
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, nobody's going to say no to Rodgers. Right.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, shoot.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: There's several over the years that I've enjoyed. But, yeah,
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, Preston, he's a beast. Yeah, you can't, that
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: would be, it's like, it seems unfair.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Well, maybe because... I don't know. I'll bite my tongue
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: on that one. Yeah, if I had Bryson, I'd be happy.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Do you think, you know, coming into this year, we
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: thought they were going to be a team that was
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: dynamic in the passing game because of all the wide
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: receivers and Heartline's history. Has that been kind of like
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: the biggest surprise for you is just the wide receiver
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: numbers in general and they better run first team really
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: the entire season?
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and when we let them play, they seem to be.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Doing well, but it seems, it's weird, it's like, almost like, alright,
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: we're going to let these guys play, and open it up,
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: and then you come back the next drive, and it
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: looks different sometimes, and it's like, this was working, why
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: aren't we sticking with it, and yeah, and that goes
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: back to what I was saying about preseason, they looked
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: so good, I was like, I felt like a little
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: child out there watching these kids running around, just, we're
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: built right.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: We're fast.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: We were catching the ball, had a lot of drops
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: this year, which is still mind boggling to me because it,
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: that was one of the things I sat there and
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: talked with a coach or two was like, I'll tell
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: you what, we're not dropping balls on the preseason. And
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: then we get in this game and it's, I've seen
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: so many that were, and then it's not like, it's like, Oh,
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: it's first and 10. We, you know, it was a,
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: It's like important downs where it's mattered, where it could
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: have been a huge swing in the game.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, we could.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: Easily be undefeated if they would let– if we would
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: catch the ball. Penalties have hurt.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Let them play.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: I hope to God they come out and they just–
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: the offense– I'm hoping– God– willing. It probably won't happen
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: because I'm going to say it now, but I hope
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: we score 50 this week.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: And we can.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: We should be scoring 40, 50 points every week. Especially
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: as well as our defense has been playing. I got
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: into spiffs before with people. When the defense is on
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: the field for a long drive and then the offense
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: comes out and they're only out there for four plays,
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: of course your defense is going to be tired. It's
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: You have to help– defense has to help the offense.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: The offense has to help the defense. It works both ways.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: And it's just– it's stagnant sometimes. And I wish they
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: would just get going. And I know this team can
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: get going. They have the playmakers. They have the ability.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: They have everything.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: It's just– there's got to be a play that happens.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: It could be in a game or it could be
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: in a practice where they just figure it out.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: And that's– At the end of the day, that's it.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Knowing that this team does have so much talent, and
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: I think it was the Athletics said they were the
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: most talented group of six team, what are your overall
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: thoughts on Coach Hartline so far?
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, I love Coach. He's been nothing but awesome.
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, and he took his– I think that's the
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: biggest reason why I have a– A weird, just a, like,
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: I don't understand this team kind of feel is because
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: I sat there and talked to a coach a couple
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: weeks before the season started, and just the way he
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: is as a coach, the way he actually speaks to ex-players.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: You know, I've sat there and talked to coaches before,
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: and they're like, oh, you know, we'll see. We don't
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: know yet quite this, that, that. And he was like,
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: he's like, Matt, honestly, he's like, if we... Execute like
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: we've been executing. We could be a dangerous team. And
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: that's the biggest thing I think that disappoints me today
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: is that I.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Watched it firsthand. And it's like, just execute.
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: Just do what we're supposed to do like we were
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: when everybody was kind of out there and watching.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: And then I'll tell you what, I do not want
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: to be a receiver anymore. with him at coach because, boy,
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: he gets all up in them. It makes sense. I mean,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: he played in the NFL. He was a bad dude. But, man,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: he'll let them know.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he seems like the few times I've talked
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: to him, he's very football all the time and definitely
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: kind of a– you get the hard-ass vibe from him.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: You can tell he's tough on his players. Um, what,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: what about Tim Beck? Obviously everyone's talking about Tim Beck overall.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Any thoughts on, on Tim Beck, uh, as far as
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator?
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, I've seen it. Uh, everybody wants to talk. Um, yeah.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Well, at the end of the day, he's, he's here. Um,
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: he's our, he's our OC. There's, I mean, what are
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: you gonna do about it? Tell him to kick rocks
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: in the middle of the season.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: And then what?
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: Coach has got a call plays the whole year. Uh,
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: You've got to figure out what is best for the kids.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: At the end of the day, that's– hell, I've had–
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: I've known offense coordinators that I've been with or not
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: even been with. And you have to have– you have
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: to get the right mentality.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: As a player as well because– Not every.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: I've heard, I've seen those offense coordinators not very good.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: I've seen that throughout the whole country through tons of teams.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: But then you see them go somewhere else and they succeed.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: You just have to get.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: You have to have the right personnel for one. It's
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: college football and with all the transferring and moving around
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: and everything, it's always going to be difficult. But it's
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: got to get kids to buy in at the end
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: of the day. Um, I'm not going to.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Sit there and go deep into anything with.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: Coach Beck or any of them, but, um, you know,
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: at the end of the day, it's about the kids and, and, um,
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: you just really have to get them to buy in.
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: And once you get kids to buy in, I will give,
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: I know he's gone and, and, uh, I know I've
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: said some things before on Twitter about Coach Golis, but
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: Coach Golis is very good at getting the kids to
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: buy in. And I know Coach now is, that's his
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: main goal.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: But it's also in his first year, you know.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: It's never easy in your first year, especially when you
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: lose half your team. I mean, you sit there watching
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: an Auburn game, and I feel like I'm listening. If
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: you just close your eyes and listen to an Auburn game,
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: it feels like you're watching a, USF game. It's like,
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: you hear so many of our players, and it's like, man.
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: And it's never easy when you have to start from scratch.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Are you pulling for Alex Golish and his players against
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Georgia in that game, or are you rooting against them?
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Yes and no.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Yes and no. I have a feeling you were rooting
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: for BYU last weekend, I'm sure.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, 100%. I still can't believe that happened.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: I can't either. Shocked by that.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But then again, at the end of the day,
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know if... this will piss anybody off. It's BYU.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: I expected it to happen sooner or later.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: It's like, it's like after the Notre, they got them
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: after Notre Dame emotional win. That just happens in college football.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: I was just fixing to say, it's a lot like
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Notre Dame every year.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: They're ranked in the top 10 and then they'll lose
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: to some school for the deaf and blind. And it's
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: like Notre Dame's like that every year, I feel like, but,
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: but then BYU is kind of jumped out of nowhere. So,
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, it makes sense, but, I was rooting for Florida.
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: My wife's a huge Florida fan. When they were playing Auburn,
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: I was hoping that Florida would take care of that.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: They did, but I don't have any harm against Coach
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Gullish or anybody from there, but.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: I will say that I don't have a problem with
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: seeing them lose.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: No problems there, man. So kind of the last thing,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: and I'll let you go. It kind of feels like
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: you feel like the biggest problem with this team is
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: maybe the coaching staff, and tell me if I'm wrong,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: but maybe the coaching staff hasn't quite figured out what's
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: best for this group of players yet. 100%.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: That's what it is.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: You see it every week. Like you were saying earlier,
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: they have these plays scripted. We come out and go
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: right down the field half the time, and it's like,
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: here we go. And then we disappear for the next–
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: quarter and a half, two quarters, and all of a
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: sudden do it again. And it's like, it goes back
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: to everything I've been saying, just stick to what's working. Uh,
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: You can have one play that can be seven different plays.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: We used to have, there's just all, we used to
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: line up in certain formations and literally one play was
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: seven different plays. And I don't know if that makes
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: any sense to you or anybody, but you can, build
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: different routes by running the same routes. You know, you,
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: if you have a go route down the sideline and
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: it's a certain coverage, you're on a comeback. If you
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: run a go route down the sideline and it's a
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: certain coverage, you're on a post there's, if something's working,
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: keep it, keep it here. Not everything has to be
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: the world. You don't have to, you know, it's college football. It's,
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: we're not, inventing the wheel. Just keep it, keep it
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: simple and figure out. You'd be surprised at how many
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: times if you actually sat down in a film room
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: and watched anybody's college football games, how many times you
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: see the play, the almost the same exact play being called,
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: especially when a passing plays.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: They're not, if something works, keep it.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: At the end of the day, I've said that a
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: hundred times, but if it works, keep it. That's all
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: I want to say. Just, Hey, this worked. Let's put
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: this in our back pocket and go from there.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: So it just feels like maybe there's too many plays
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: that they're trying to learn. It's like the cheesecake factory.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: There's so many damn things on the menu. You need
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: a smaller menu.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: Well, that might be a stretch. We went to the
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: cheesecake factory a couple of weeks ago with the kids
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: and I looked at this menu and I was like,
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know what I want to eat because.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: It's so big.
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: And then, but there was like 20 things on there.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, I want this. And then I
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: get the next thing. I'm like, Oh no, I want this. But,
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: and then of course the thing that I ended up getting,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: I was like, I shouldn't have got this.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Awesome, man. Well, it was great catching up with you.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Good insight and always good to just kind of get
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: your opinion on the program. I know people care about
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: that and, People just want to know so many questions
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: about the offense. I just figured you're the perfect guy
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: to do it for us. So I appreciate that. Appreciate
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: the story of Levitt. That's kind of funny that he
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: had just texted you today. The timing. I swear we
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: live in a simulation. But seriously, man, appreciate your help.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: And thank you for coming on here. And we'll definitely
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: have to do it again soon. And I hope that Saturday,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: I hope Saturday you get to have a fun Halloween.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: this team just kicks ass after the bye week, and
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: I hope that offense can put up the 50 points
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: that you're talking about.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: I appreciate it, and thanks for having me, buddy. Yeah, man.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: We'll talk again soon. Appreciate you.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Thanks, brother. Good insight there from the quarterback, Matt Grothy,
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: and his answer on Tim Beck, that was interesting. He
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: didn't say a lot, but he kind of said a
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: lot just by his body language. I felt you could
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: kind of tell his thoughts there, but Really good stuff.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: I thought he, you know, it was just good to
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: hear his insight on what he thought of this team
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: and what he thinks the issues are. And, you know,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: maybe during this bye week, they do simplify some things.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: And hopefully we get a really strong showing from the
• 42:48
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• 43:28
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• 43:31
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• 43:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't hold a press conference after the
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• 43:44
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• 43:47
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• 43:57
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  Speaker 1: And that was great. Really appreciate his time. That was
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: some good stuff. Next show. We will obviously recap Saturday's game.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Who knows when I'll get that podcast out being a nooner.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: I might be able to get it out. Kind of decent.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: Although after that game, then you got Florida, Georgia. And
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: then what else is that night this week? I got
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: to look at the slate, but I know there's a
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: decent slate in college football. I just, Can't wait. College
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: football on Halloween, it is the best. Enjoy the games
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: this weekend, of course. Go Bulls, and we will talk
• 44:34
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• 44:36
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