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- 0:06Speaker 1: Now, Logan, last time we did this with one of
- 0:08Speaker 1: your teammates, it was Mitch Garver, and I believe it
- 0:12Speaker 1: was the long arms of Logan Gilbert of the background,
- 0:14Speaker 1: throwing seats the whole time.
- 0:15Speaker 2: Is that right?
- 0:16Speaker 3: Oh that doesn't sound right. I don't know about that one.
- 0:19Speaker 2: That might have been. I can't say on air who's.
- 0:22Speaker 1: Off camera right now? You know, aimed at you.
- 0:25Speaker 3: Right now with the this is this is Bryce right here,
- 0:27Speaker 3: as most people could probably guess.
- 0:30Speaker 1: Now, Logan, I know you pitchers are all very superstitious,
- 0:34Speaker 1: so oh, there's Bryce. So I'm not going to say
- 0:36Speaker 1: any numbers specifically, but I will say you seem to
- 0:39Speaker 1: be in a really good spot as of late, Logan,
- 0:41Speaker 1: what do you feel like has been going the best
- 0:43Speaker 1: for you over the last colon a month or so.
- 0:47Speaker 3: I don't know if it's any one thing. I think
- 0:49Speaker 3: just getting in good counts. All my pitches have felt
- 0:51Speaker 3: pretty good and pretty good locations, and sometimes they just
- 0:54Speaker 3: hit it to people, so that helps too.
- 0:59Speaker 2: Hey, good morning, Welcome into the radio show. It is
- 1:01Speaker 2: Chuck and Ashley with you here on this Thursday, Logan
- 1:05Speaker 2: Gilbert yesterday all smiles, even though the game did not
- 1:09Speaker 2: end all that well for the baseball team, thanks to
- 1:11Speaker 2: Mariner's TV for the audio, as the MS lose to
- 1:16Speaker 2: the Baltimore Orioles by a final score of five to
- 1:19Speaker 2: three at home. So no winning streak, that's not going
- 1:22Speaker 2: to happen, but maybe he could start to try again
- 1:27Speaker 2: tonight or today this afternoon. So five to three the
- 1:30Speaker 2: final score. Julio Rodriguez left this game with an injury.
- 1:35Speaker 2: It was a hamstring and we found out afterwards from
- 1:39Speaker 2: Dan Wilson that it was just a spasm according to
- 1:42Speaker 2: the organization, which is a pretty good word to hear
- 1:46Speaker 2: today because there are a lot worse words that you
- 1:48Speaker 2: could have heard associated with a hamstring. So hopefully it
- 1:52Speaker 2: was just a spasm. Hopefully he's going to be okay.
- 1:56Speaker 2: I don't know if he'll be in the lineup today,
- 1:58Speaker 2: but it does sound like Josh Naylor will be. So
- 2:01Speaker 2: a banged up baseball team cannot afford to lose, so
- 2:04Speaker 2: Julio Rodriguez on top of everything else, and today they
- 2:07Speaker 2: have a chance to make it two out of three
- 2:09Speaker 2: against the Baltimore Orioles after last night's five to three loss.
- 2:13Speaker 2: It will be Bryan Wu against Shane Boss that's your
- 2:16Speaker 2: pitching matchup a combined six letters in their last names,
- 2:21Speaker 2: woo versus Boz. I have a feeling that has not
- 2:24Speaker 2: happened a lot in Major League Baseball history. I also
- 2:27Speaker 2: have a feeling that's something Goldie would be really interested in.
- 2:30Speaker 2: And we'll probably research that here Alex Mayer before tonight.
- 2:34Speaker 4: Yes, for today, I hope we have some info.
- 2:37Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we should have some data on that.
- 2:39Speaker 4: Alex. If you're listening, you know what to do.
- 2:42Speaker 2: He's already on it. He's probably already tweeted it out.
- 2:45Speaker 4: Yes, I mean it's right up as Ali, it really is.
- 2:48Speaker 2: Yeah, So woo versus Boz today at one ten, let's
- 2:52Speaker 2: take a look at the rest of your headlines, brought
- 2:53Speaker 2: to you by Frost Brewed Course Light Choose Chill. We
- 2:57Speaker 2: have live sports action going on right now the US Open,
- 3:01Speaker 2: Day number one. Graham McDowell is out to the early
- 3:05Speaker 2: early lead. He is two under after two and he's
- 3:10Speaker 2: the only person with that good of a score at
- 3:12Speaker 2: this point. Now, this was supposed to start and actually
- 3:15Speaker 2: I guess that it did at seven am this morning,
- 3:18Speaker 2: but they suspended play for two hours because of weather
- 3:22Speaker 2: and even though and the word that was used to
- 3:25Speaker 2: describe it was ominous, even though it was ominous around there.
- 3:29Speaker 2: Really the reason that they suspended plays because no one
- 3:31Speaker 2: could see their hand in front of their face. There
- 3:34Speaker 2: was so much fog that had settled in at Shinnecock
- 3:38Speaker 2: that they decided, hey, it's not fun playing golf if
- 3:41Speaker 2: you can't see where the ball's going. So they suspended
- 3:44Speaker 2: play for two hours. Got things started again a little
- 3:48Speaker 2: bit ago, and so we're going to have us open action.
- 3:51Speaker 2: We'll be updating you twenty after the hour, starting at
- 3:55Speaker 2: eight twenty here this morning, live from Shinnecock. In the
- 3:59Speaker 2: meantime you'll have Ashley and I to update you throughout
- 4:02Speaker 2: the course of the morning. Some other headlines World Cup.
- 4:05Speaker 2: Of course, everyone is now played a match, so everybody
- 4:09Speaker 2: feels even steven at this stage with several matches being
- 4:13Speaker 2: played last night, and so England gets its win and
- 4:18Speaker 2: its first match. As for Portugal and Rinaldo not so good.
- 4:23Speaker 2: They played to a draw yesterday which was startling too many.
- 4:28Speaker 2: The matches start at nine o'clock this morning. Canada will
- 4:31Speaker 2: be in action against Qatar or Cutter, depends on where
- 4:34Speaker 2: you are, or.
- 4:37Speaker 5: I think it was SOFTI who went on a whole
- 4:39Speaker 5: thing last World Cup or something about Qatar or cutter,
- 4:42Speaker 5: and so I just I don't know why I would
- 4:44Speaker 5: trust what he says.
- 4:45Speaker 2: No, never three pm start there and then Mexico versus
- 4:49Speaker 2: A South Korea at six pm. Really torn on the
- 4:52Speaker 2: Mexico South Korea because I got an ex girlfriend who's Mexican.
- 4:56Speaker 2: And then I have my sushi guys from Korea.
- 5:00Speaker 4: Yeah, but you've got Tim Munios.
- 5:03Speaker 2: And I have Team Munos as well.
- 5:05Speaker 4: It's two votes for Team Mexico.
- 5:06Speaker 2: I really like my sushi guy though, and he and
- 5:08Speaker 2: his daughter are really excited about this.
- 5:11Speaker 4: How about just hope for a draw? You get a
- 5:13Speaker 4: half point?
- 5:14Speaker 2: That would never happen. Not in Sports USA Australia tomorrow
- 5:20Speaker 2: at noon. Brad Evans will join us today at eight
- 5:22Speaker 2: o'clock anders Hurst at nine thirty to preview this big match.
- 5:25Speaker 2: Still don't know about Christian Pulistic and whether or not
- 5:27Speaker 2: he's going to be healthy enough to go. Man, you
- 5:30Speaker 2: gotta rub some butter on this. I mean, it's the
- 5:32Speaker 2: World Cup. What are we doing here?
- 5:34Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, how bad if you have both legs still?
- 5:37Speaker 2: Yeah? How bad? Could it be? The knicks are having
- 5:39Speaker 2: their championship parade today. The NBA Draft is in five days.
- 5:44Speaker 2: The Golden Knights have a brand new head coach. They
- 5:47Speaker 2: went from losing the Stanley Cup Finals, so the next
- 5:51Speaker 2: day letting their head coach who got them there go
- 5:55Speaker 2: and really without any doubt apparently, and then the following
- 5:59Speaker 2: day they hired a brand new head coach that no
- 6:01Speaker 2: one's heard of.
- 6:03Speaker 4: Sounds about right.
- 6:04Speaker 2: That is quite the cycle that the Golden Knights have
- 6:06Speaker 2: gone through. College World Series. North Carolina and Oklahoma have
- 6:11Speaker 2: reached the finals. They have dominated in Omaha. Those two teams.
- 6:15Speaker 2: Thus far, they have not lost a game. And so
- 6:17Speaker 2: North Carolina versus Oklahoma two out of three to decide
- 6:21Speaker 2: the champions of College Baseball. So there you go, your
- 6:25Speaker 2: headlines brought to you by Frost Brewed Corps Light. I
- 6:28Speaker 2: don't often do this, I think I'd probably done it before,
- 6:32Speaker 2: but we're going to run the ABC's of the MS
- 6:35Speaker 2: right now, so we allow the alphabet to be our
- 6:38Speaker 2: guide through a few topics, not necessarily last night's topics,
- 6:41Speaker 2: but just some interesting places that the alphabet takes us
- 6:45Speaker 2: when it comes to Mariner conversations. We left off yesterday
- 6:48Speaker 2: at the letter G and G is for gamesmanship. Man,
- 6:52Speaker 2: do I like this story? So when Major League Baseball
- 6:59Speaker 2: when they went analytics, and it took a little while,
- 7:04Speaker 2: and we went through this phase of man, you gotta
- 7:09Speaker 2: get a catcher who knows how to frame, okay, And
- 7:12Speaker 2: so they were keeping framing statistics everywhere, and they were
- 7:18Speaker 2: elevating guys who couldn't hit, couldn't throw, couldn't run, but man,
- 7:24Speaker 2: they are great at framing. Yeah, And so they really
- 7:29Speaker 2: made a big deal. And certainly we highlighted a little trick,
- 7:34Speaker 2: a little skill that catchers have always had, and that
- 7:37Speaker 2: is the ability to make a ball look like a strike,
- 7:41Speaker 2: okay from the picture. Now, this was before obviously we
- 7:45Speaker 2: had any sort of ABS challenge system long before, and
- 7:49Speaker 2: so we ended up, I think personally going too far
- 7:53Speaker 2: with it, like giving it too much credit for how
- 7:56Speaker 2: valuable it was to the game. And I think it
- 8:00Speaker 2: did blur the lines, like, you know, I'd like to
- 8:02Speaker 2: be able to have a catcher who can hit and throw.
- 8:05Speaker 2: That'd be nice too, and not just frame. But we
- 8:09Speaker 2: obviously ran wild with it there for a while, that
- 8:13Speaker 2: a catcher being able to steal strikes, be able to
- 8:16Speaker 2: trick the umpire in essence into calling a strike when
- 8:21Speaker 2: it really was a ball. And so the pitch framing
- 8:25Speaker 2: era and then it dissipated a little bit. We started
- 8:28Speaker 2: to come to common sense on the statistic. But man,
- 8:32Speaker 2: you can't stop catchers from wanting to cheat a little bit,
- 8:36Speaker 2: from wanting to trick people. So now we have abs
- 8:41Speaker 2: and they can't do that. I mean, there's still a
- 8:43Speaker 2: skill because you could still trick the umpire and then
- 8:50Speaker 2: if you trick the umpire, maybe the hitter won't want
- 8:53Speaker 2: to challenge you. Right, Okay, so it still is there,
- 8:57Speaker 2: but it feels like wording to a little thing that
- 9:01Speaker 2: I saw yesterday on MLB Network that catchers that's kind
- 9:05Speaker 2: of boring to us. Now trigging the umpire now that
- 9:10Speaker 2: it can be overturned by technology, I think what would
- 9:14Speaker 2: be more fun is, now, let's trick the hitters with
- 9:17Speaker 2: pitch framing. So apparently what's happening in the sport is
- 9:23Speaker 2: that catchers are trying to line up and catch balls
- 9:29Speaker 2: in such awkward fashion that they're hoping that it tricks
- 9:34Speaker 2: the hitter into challenging the ball strike call, and so
- 9:39Speaker 2: they're trying to burn up their challenges leave it to baseball.
- 9:45Speaker 2: They will always find a way. That's why it doesn't
- 9:47Speaker 2: matter what you implement, there's going to be somebody that's
- 9:50Speaker 2: going to try to figure out, well, how can we
- 9:52Speaker 2: exploit this. And apparently the catchers, boy, those crafty catchers,
- 9:56Speaker 2: they're the ones that are that have decided. I mean
- 9:59Speaker 2: to the degree that there's a rookie catcher in Miami
- 10:03Speaker 2: he's like lining up outside of the strike zone to
- 10:07Speaker 2: throw off the hitter. So then they actually throw a
- 10:11Speaker 2: strike over the middle and he crosses over his body
- 10:14Speaker 2: and then the hitter sees that out of the corner
- 10:15Speaker 2: of his eye and says, no way was that ace.
- 10:18Speaker 4: Yes, they just had to move out of the strike
- 10:20Speaker 4: zone to catch it.
- 10:21Speaker 2: Yes, And so then they challenge and then it turns
- 10:24Speaker 2: out no, it was right down the middle. So now
- 10:27Speaker 2: catchers now that they can't don't have that pitch framing
- 10:32Speaker 2: over the umpire because technology can overrule that. Now they're
- 10:35Speaker 2: trying to trick the hitters into using the technology and
- 10:41Speaker 2: burning up their allotment. And do you know who apparently
- 10:44Speaker 2: is number one in the sport at this.
- 10:47Speaker 4: Who col Raley A love it. That's awesome.
- 10:53Speaker 2: He has the number one statistic for catchers, excuse me,
- 10:57Speaker 2: hitters trying to overturn his call, to overturn the call
- 11:02Speaker 2: because of where it was being caught.
- 11:04Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 11:05Speaker 2: And now, whether or not he's intending to do that
- 11:08Speaker 2: or it's just coincidence, we don't have a large enough
- 11:10Speaker 2: sample size. But he has the number one rank for
- 11:16Speaker 2: getting hitters to challenge calls and they actually are strikes.
- 11:20Speaker 4: That's really funny.
- 11:21Speaker 2: That makes sense, Yeah, because this is really kind of hard.
- 11:23Speaker 4: To explain, No, it makes sense.
- 11:24Speaker 2: Yeah, and so he's number one, and then Garver is
- 11:27Speaker 2: apparently number one at actually challenging the um yeah, he's
- 11:31Speaker 2: So we have this combination of these two craftsmen that
- 11:37Speaker 2: are really working this new ABS system. Catchers are not
- 11:41Speaker 2: going to be told what to do. Apparently they are
- 11:44Speaker 2: in the game to try to fool umps or hitters
- 11:47Speaker 2: whatever's easier. And apparently we've got the two best at
- 11:51Speaker 2: the two different types of line. Yeah, that catchers can do.
- 11:56Speaker 2: So how about that.
- 11:57Speaker 4: I think that's awesome. I love that.
- 11:59Speaker 5: I just es actually for I mean, we already knew
- 12:03Speaker 5: Cal's a good catcher, right but and you already know
- 12:06Speaker 5: that he's kind of got that little devilish side to
- 12:09Speaker 5: him like where he's you know, because you hear him, like,
- 12:12Speaker 5: for example, you hear him and Logan talk and the
- 12:14Speaker 5: sarcasm and the you know, the you can tell he's
- 12:17Speaker 5: kind of like a jokester and things like that. So
- 12:19Speaker 5: I feel like this would be his on field joking,
- 12:21Speaker 5: like I'm gonna get these guys like it's little ways
- 12:24Speaker 5: to mess with people, and it works.
- 12:26Speaker 2: They just are always looking for Okay, you're going to
- 12:31Speaker 2: do that to us? Well, then what can we try
- 12:33Speaker 2: to overdo that? How overcome outsmart you? Yeah? How can
- 12:37Speaker 2: we outsmart the rule that you've put in play?
- 12:39Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 12:40Speaker 2: So here we have this ABS challenge system and we're
- 12:42Speaker 2: all like, oh good, finally we can overrule. And now
- 12:46Speaker 2: we've actually made it a little bit of a game
- 12:48Speaker 2: within a game, because you might screw your whole team
- 12:51Speaker 2: over because if you challenge at the right time and
- 12:53Speaker 2: the whole time catchers are sitting there together in a room.
- 12:57Speaker 2: How can we exploit this? What can we do? And
- 13:00Speaker 2: apparently what they've come up with is all right, since
- 13:03Speaker 2: we can't outsmart the technology, even if we do outsmart
- 13:08Speaker 2: the umpire, can we outsmart the hitters to use up
- 13:13Speaker 2: all of their challenges early so that they don't have
- 13:16Speaker 2: them when it really matters. And that is happening in
- 13:19Speaker 2: the sport right now. I'm not insane.
- 13:21Speaker 4: It's insane and I love it.
- 13:22Speaker 5: I mean, I was happy when the ABS came in,
- 13:25Speaker 5: and I was really happy when we discovered that. You know,
- 13:27Speaker 5: it was an extra fun thing to watch, like seeing
- 13:30Speaker 5: how how and when people use challenges in playing along
- 13:33Speaker 5: with oh my gosh, are they going to get it
- 13:34Speaker 5: right or are they wrong? And all of that, and
- 13:36Speaker 5: now you add this in. I mean, well done, ABS system,
- 13:39Speaker 5: Well done.
- 13:41Speaker 2: H is for hamstring. It was the hamstring spasm heard
- 13:45Speaker 2: around the world. Julio Rodriguez left the game last night.
- 13:49Speaker 2: Felt like to me, everybody was fearing the worst. We
- 13:52Speaker 2: don't see Julio get injured all that frequently, and certainly
- 13:55Speaker 2: haven't this year. But he gathered up his stuff in
- 13:58Speaker 2: the middle of the game and had down into the
- 14:00Speaker 2: tunnel with the trainer, and considering how many injuries the
- 14:04Speaker 2: team has suffered as of late, it sounds like red
- 14:07Speaker 2: light to me. On social media anyway, everybody was fearing
- 14:11Speaker 2: the worst. Of course, the Mariners do not ever update
- 14:14Speaker 2: you during the game, so he had to wait till
- 14:16Speaker 2: after the game, and then to use Dan Wilson as
- 14:19Speaker 2: the guy that updates you. He's never going to give
- 14:21Speaker 2: you specifics. So we get to the end of the game,
- 14:24Speaker 2: finally we get a chance to find out why Julio left,
- 14:27Speaker 2: and Dan's chalking it up to a spasm. As Ashley
- 14:32Speaker 2: pointed out earlier in the Cramp Family.
- 14:36Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, in the Cramp family, I like that.
- 14:39Speaker 2: So that's the best news that you can hear. Now,
- 14:42Speaker 2: whether or not that leads to much more, I have
- 14:44Speaker 2: no idea. But obviously we right now, right now, in
- 14:49Speaker 2: our lives, right now on June eighteenth, twenty twenty six,
- 14:52Speaker 2: when it comes to injuries, we're a little on edge.
- 14:55Speaker 2: So I don't blame people for fearing the worst last
- 14:58Speaker 2: night because it was a mysterious exit. It didn't look
- 15:02Speaker 2: like he was all that hurt. There wasn't a play
- 15:05Speaker 2: that showed that he'd gotten hurt. But apparently it's when
- 15:08Speaker 2: he went into the left center field gap and made
- 15:11Speaker 2: what was for him a routine catch, but he jumped
- 15:14Speaker 2: a little bit in the air and that's apparently what
- 15:17Speaker 2: led to the spasm. So I think that's a good report.
- 15:21Speaker 2: Then again, they never are honest about injuries over there,
- 15:25Speaker 2: so who knows.
- 15:25Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the thing is they try to downplay everything,
- 15:28Speaker 5: which I can understand it to some degree, but it
- 15:31Speaker 5: ends up. I feel like then I never trust when
- 15:33Speaker 5: they downplay something. Are they just downplaying it and it's
- 15:35Speaker 5: really a bigger deal. I mean, I was thinking yesterday
- 15:38Speaker 5: somebody called Curtis Washington Junior and tell him to turn
- 15:40Speaker 5: around and come back down from Everett.
- 15:43Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think Curtis is going to wear the
- 15:45Speaker 2: uniform again.
- 15:46Speaker 4: I mean I wanted him to have another chance.
- 15:48Speaker 2: Well, I think we all want him to have another chance.
- 15:52Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to get one. But anyway,
- 15:56Speaker 2: finally I I is for it. Yeah, because we need
- 16:02Speaker 2: to talk about dom Canzone's increased role here going forward.
- 16:07Speaker 2: I mean, I know I've just talked a lot about
- 16:11Speaker 2: at the trading deadline getting a bat at the trading deadline.
- 16:15Speaker 2: But and then not long ago, anders Hurst, and you
- 16:19Speaker 2: know Anders sometimes he can be a real fool. But
- 16:23Speaker 2: anders tweeted out not long ago, is it time to
- 16:27Speaker 2: think about dom Canzone being just your full time right
- 16:30Speaker 2: fielder or full time DH just in the lineup every
- 16:34Speaker 2: single day? Is it time to start doing that. I mean,
- 16:37Speaker 2: obviously they thought a lot of him when they traded
- 16:39Speaker 2: for him in the Seawall deal a few years ago,
- 16:43Speaker 2: but he's certainly turned into a platoon player here, well,
- 16:47Speaker 2: all of a sudden. I mean I saw that from Anders.
- 16:50Speaker 2: I'm like, come on, man, yeah no. But now now
- 16:55Speaker 2: that he's getting this almost forced exposure against left handers,
- 16:59Speaker 2: he didn't hit all that poorly against him. He didn't
- 17:02Speaker 2: really hit for power last year, but he was putting
- 17:04Speaker 2: the ball in play. He was getting hits. The year before,
- 17:06Speaker 2: he didn't have one hit against the left handed pitcher,
- 17:10Speaker 2: not one the whole season. Last year he actually hit,
- 17:13Speaker 2: He put the ball in play, right, he wasn't. I mean,
- 17:16Speaker 2: Dom's got a hit with power to be valuable. But
- 17:19Speaker 2: this year he has a four to seventy one on
- 17:22Speaker 2: base Now it's only twelve at bats before seventy one
- 17:25Speaker 2: on base, seven to twenty one ozerps. He hasn't hit
- 17:28Speaker 2: a home and again it's not hitting for power. But
- 17:32Speaker 2: short sample size, yes, but is it enough of a
- 17:35Speaker 2: sample size that maybe we do cut this guy loose,
- 17:38Speaker 2: at least until the trading deadline. Maybe we do have
- 17:40Speaker 2: a solution maybe he could play every day. Maybe all
- 17:44Speaker 2: of these injuries and these odd lineups that Dan's gone
- 17:47Speaker 2: to as of late will reveal that Dom can zone
- 17:51Speaker 2: shouldn't be taken out of the lineup. And I don't
- 17:53Speaker 2: know if he should be our right fielder, but if
- 17:55Speaker 2: he's our everyday dh, I don't know if I hate
- 17:57Speaker 2: that idea here for the next give him a long leash,
- 18:03Speaker 2: see what he can do. Ref s Ninder's not hitting anything.
- 18:06Speaker 4: Let Dom cook.
- 18:07Speaker 2: Let Dom cook. Let's see if he can get on
- 18:10Speaker 2: that sound now from now until the trading, and then
- 18:14Speaker 2: if he can't, then we explore we've got the deadline
- 18:18Speaker 2: to add a bat that can play every day, and
- 18:21Speaker 2: Tom returns to a platoon role at that point, or
- 18:25Speaker 2: maybe he's involved in the trade that brings in the
- 18:28Speaker 2: Byron Buxton. But right now, I think I think Anders
- 18:32Speaker 2: was right, and man I hated doing that.
- 18:34Speaker 4: That's a spicy meat to bother.
- 18:36Speaker 2: It goes to his head.
- 18:38Speaker 4: Yeah, oh believe you said that.
- 18:39Speaker 2: He's going to be unbearable. But maybe he needs to
- 18:43Speaker 2: play every day.
- 18:44Speaker 5: I mean I would like to see it, I really would.
- 18:46Speaker 5: I think that's a great idea you've got right now.
- 18:48Speaker 5: Is the time to do it. As you said, all
- 18:49Speaker 5: these injuries, let's see it all right.
- 18:51Speaker 2: Coming out next the Seahawks One Series, we're going to
- 18:54Speaker 2: talk about Bud Clark. Sports Radio ninety three point three
- 18:56Speaker 2: kJ RFM. Heany great morning to you. Throughout the month
- 19:14Speaker 2: of Junior on checking back in the morning, we always
- 19:17Speaker 2: have our Seahawks So one Series it's one analyst breaking
- 19:19Speaker 2: down one key Seahawk player for one entire interview. And
- 19:22Speaker 2: we've reached the portion of the show in which we're
- 19:25Speaker 2: going to deliver today's Seahawks one Series episode. And on Thursdays,
- 19:30Speaker 2: so we go outside of town for our analysts, and
- 19:33Speaker 2: sometimes we'll even go to the heart of a player,
- 19:38Speaker 2: as in the guy that has coached him up to
- 19:41Speaker 2: be an NFL football player. It wasn't long ago that
- 19:44Speaker 2: we had on the radio show right after the draft.
- 19:46Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, Andy Avolos, who was the
- 19:48Speaker 2: defensive coordinator at TCU and the guy that was there
- 19:53Speaker 2: for all of Bud Clark's development into one of the
- 19:56Speaker 2: best defensive backs in all of college football. Well now
- 20:00Speaker 2: he is a Seattle Seahawk. They took him most recently
- 20:04Speaker 2: in the NFL Draft and might end up playing a
- 20:07Speaker 2: pretty significant role considering the pieces that we lost in
- 20:11Speaker 2: our secondary this offseason. So today's Seahawks one series installment
- 20:16Speaker 2: is our in case you missed it, conversation with TCU
- 20:19Speaker 2: DC Andy Avolos talking about Bud Clark, and we'll pick
- 20:23Speaker 2: it up. When I asked coach Avolos if he was
- 20:26Speaker 2: surprised or if he is surprised with how much interest
- 20:29Speaker 2: Seahawks fans have in Bud Clark.
- 20:32Speaker 6: No, not at all, and I'll tell you for all
- 20:35Speaker 6: the reasons. I mean, we missed the guy already, not
- 20:38Speaker 6: just as a football player and one of the leaders
- 20:40Speaker 6: of our defense and being in and around the facility
- 20:43Speaker 6: every day. But you know, as we're out on the
- 20:45Speaker 6: road recruiting right now, yeah, there's a certain level of
- 20:48Speaker 6: measurements that you're looking for. Talent level that's going to
- 20:53Speaker 6: fit a role in all the things that you can develop.
- 20:57Speaker 6: But more importantly, you know, we're looking for the right people. Sorry,
- 21:01Speaker 6: as you can hear the bell ring at the school
- 21:02Speaker 6: I'm at right now, but you know it's Bud. Bud's
- 21:06Speaker 6: got these intangibles that are just off the chart as
- 21:09Speaker 6: the person, his charisma. There's coaches that are going to
- 21:13Speaker 6: want to coach him because of the type of person is.
- 21:15Speaker 6: There's teammates that are going to want to be around
- 21:17Speaker 6: him because of the type of person he is. He's
- 21:19Speaker 6: an extremely hard hard worker. I mean shoot, over the
- 21:22Speaker 6: course of the two years that we are together at TCU,
- 21:27Speaker 6: I can't remember a time, guys, when when his GPS
- 21:30Speaker 6: wasn't the highest in a workout or in a practice.
- 21:33Speaker 6: I mean, Bud works, and I think people are going
- 21:35Speaker 6: to be very excited to see that, see how he
- 21:37Speaker 6: comes along with this great coaching staff that he gets
- 21:40Speaker 6: to be developed by.
- 21:42Speaker 2: Let's talk about his experience because I love this. For
- 21:45Speaker 2: the National Football League, it kind of felt to me
- 21:49Speaker 2: that for a while, teams were drafting the younger player
- 21:52Speaker 2: that they could mold, and maybe since COVID coach, we're
- 21:57Speaker 2: seeing a trend toward no, we want the guys that
- 22:00Speaker 2: racked up the most experience possible at the college football level.
- 22:04Speaker 2: I know the Seahawks are leaning that way. I think
- 22:06Speaker 2: it's a credit to you and the college coach today
- 22:10Speaker 2: that we trust what you've taught them, what we're seeing
- 22:14Speaker 2: on film, and we love the fact that Bud Clark
- 22:17Speaker 2: has a lot of experience, even if he's a little
- 22:20Speaker 2: older than our normal draft pick. What is your take
- 22:23Speaker 2: on that, you.
- 22:23Speaker 6: Know, one hundred percent, experience wins, right like having guys
- 22:27Speaker 6: that understand and know what to do when to do it,
- 22:30Speaker 6: have shown improven you know through the course of years
- 22:33Speaker 6: that they're capable of doing it. They have a skill
- 22:35Speaker 6: set and a talent that the Good Lord's blessed them with,
- 22:38Speaker 6: but that they know how to use it. That goes
- 22:41Speaker 6: a long way. You know, we've talked before and we're
- 22:44Speaker 6: looking for similar things and players here at TCU. We're
- 22:47Speaker 6: looking for smart, tough guys that are going to be
- 22:49Speaker 6: consistent with what the Good Lord's given them day in
- 22:52Speaker 6: and day out. And I think when you look at
- 22:54Speaker 6: a guy that like Bud, who's played as many snaps
- 22:57Speaker 6: as he has and not only played, but played at
- 23:00Speaker 6: a very very high level, I know that you know
- 23:04Speaker 6: exactly what you're going to get going forward. And with
- 23:07Speaker 6: Bud too, you know he has the ability, he's got
- 23:09Speaker 6: position flexibility. There's many people from the NFL that you know,
- 23:13Speaker 6: we're inquiring about him playing corner, not just safety because
- 23:16Speaker 6: of his cover skills, his man to man coverability and
- 23:20Speaker 6: obviously he plays all the zones already as a safety,
- 23:23Speaker 6: and so we're just excited to see, you know, what
- 23:26Speaker 6: coach McDonald's sides to do with him, and you know,
- 23:30Speaker 6: from Afar just being a fan of what he's always
- 23:33Speaker 6: done and the defenses he's ran. And so you know,
- 23:36Speaker 6: us too down here in Texas are going to be
- 23:38Speaker 6: watching from Afar to see how Bud progresses.
- 23:41Speaker 2: Well, what's something about him that only somebody that's around
- 23:44Speaker 2: him every day can know and appreciate? It doesn't show
- 23:48Speaker 2: up on film that where a scout can study that,
- 23:52Speaker 2: but as somebody that intimately has worked with him every
- 23:56Speaker 2: single day for the last year or so. What's something
- 24:00Speaker 2: about Bud Clark that the Seahawks are about to learn
- 24:03Speaker 2: once they're around him every day.
- 24:05Speaker 6: Well, I think you myself, everybody, you want to go
- 24:08Speaker 6: to work the people are going to be around every day,
- 24:10Speaker 6: you want to go to work with you know, you
- 24:12Speaker 6: want to be around them, You want to help them,
- 24:14Speaker 6: you want them to help you. You want to work
- 24:15Speaker 6: together as a team. And budgets again has that charisma
- 24:19Speaker 6: not only with his coaches but his teammates. There's there's
- 24:21Speaker 6: going to be coaches around him that they're going to
- 24:24Speaker 6: get a guy that's very passionate about what he you know,
- 24:28Speaker 6: very passionate about this game and how he goes about
- 24:30Speaker 6: preparing himself and his his teammates are going to see
- 24:33Speaker 6: that as well, that you know, he's passionate about being
- 24:36Speaker 6: the best he can and each and every day. And
- 24:37Speaker 6: I'll tell you what, he's gonna have that smile. That's
- 24:40Speaker 6: gonna put a smile on your face too. And you
- 24:42Speaker 6: guys are gonna love covering him and he's he's just
- 24:45Speaker 6: gonna he's going to bring that joy to you. And
- 24:47Speaker 6: even in times when you know there's difficult tasks that
- 24:50Speaker 6: need to get done, there's things that need to get
- 24:52Speaker 6: sorted out, it's uh, you know, it's always fun to
- 24:55Speaker 6: find your way through it with a guy like him.
- 24:56Speaker 2: Andy Avolos is with us a defensive coordinator at Texas
- 24:59Speaker 2: Christian and used to be a defensive coach at Boise State,
- 25:03Speaker 2: where he coached a guy by the name of DeMarcus Lawrence.
- 25:06Speaker 2: Have you called DeMarcus to tell him, Hey, take care
- 25:09Speaker 2: of my boy, Bud.
- 25:11Speaker 6: Oh, That was one of the first things to do
- 25:15Speaker 6: that night when Budd got drafted by the Seahawks. That
- 25:18Speaker 6: was one of the first things to do. I'm very
- 25:20Speaker 6: fortunate to be a part of Demarcus's life and see
- 25:24Speaker 6: how he's grown and the things that he's done and
- 25:26Speaker 6: the man that he's become. And you know, it was
- 25:28Speaker 6: really cool to see what the Seahawks were able to
- 25:31Speaker 6: do last year. Obviously being a fan in rooting from Afar,
- 25:35Speaker 6: but now being able to have another player that we're
- 25:37Speaker 6: close with and being able to connect these two and
- 25:41Speaker 6: make sure, you know, they help each other. It's definitely
- 25:46Speaker 6: helps to have mentors and people that have been in
- 25:49Speaker 6: the league and done these things and know what it
- 25:51Speaker 6: takes and the consistency level. And so it's like, Marcus,
- 25:54Speaker 6: you got a little brother. Yeah, Bud, you got a
- 25:57Speaker 6: new big brother. You guys take care of each other.
- 25:59Speaker 6: Make sure we have the right people around ourselves, are
- 26:01Speaker 6: doing the right things so we can succeed. So there's
- 26:05Speaker 6: two guys right there there, you know, some of the
- 26:07Speaker 6: hardest workers that we've been blessed to be around, and
- 26:10Speaker 6: you know, hopefully they can have a huge impact together.
- 26:13Speaker 2: Yeah, I see on your resume. You were also of
- 26:15Speaker 2: course at Oregon. Are you relieved to have washed that
- 26:19Speaker 2: stink off of you?
- 26:22Speaker 6: Well? I'll tell you what I've been blessed the a
- 26:27Speaker 6: few good places that I'm very grateful for. And to
- 26:30Speaker 6: be honest, you just the people that we've been around,
- 26:32Speaker 6: and you know, and that goes that's that's even bigger
- 26:36Speaker 6: blessing for for you know, these guys going that they
- 26:39Speaker 6: get to be around leaders in an organization like the
- 26:41Speaker 6: Seahawks and John Schneiders. That's it's been pretty cool to
- 26:45Speaker 6: see again from Afar and how he's rebuilt the Seahawks
- 26:50Speaker 6: over the last couple of years and then bring it
- 26:51Speaker 6: all together last year with the coaching staff that they
- 26:54Speaker 6: brought in there. It's pretty cool to see.
- 26:55Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you along those lines, as a
- 26:57Speaker 2: defensive coordinator yourself, I mean, is everybody in the industry
- 27:02Speaker 2: college pro I mean, are you studying what Mike McDonald's
- 27:05Speaker 2: doing defensively?
- 27:06Speaker 6: Are you?
- 27:06Speaker 2: Are you foolish if you're not trying to figure out
- 27:10Speaker 2: what he's doing to change defense right now in the
- 27:12Speaker 2: National Football League.
- 27:15Speaker 6: Yes, of course, we've we have been for a few years.
- 27:20Speaker 6: You know, we've we've had people that have worked with us,
- 27:22Speaker 6: that have worked with coach before in the past, and
- 27:26Speaker 6: you know, we fortunate enough we have access to all
- 27:29Speaker 6: NFL film and you know, even some of the college
- 27:32Speaker 6: thoughts that he's been at, and so we have been
- 27:35Speaker 6: able to do that. You know, we're coaches, we're pirates.
- 27:38Speaker 6: We're always trying to hiate things that can fit us
- 27:41Speaker 6: and that we can do well. And it's just it's
- 27:44Speaker 6: it's the way the game goes. You're always trying to
- 27:46Speaker 6: learn and grow. And definitely that's that's one coach that
- 27:48Speaker 6: you know you keep your eyes on.
- 27:50Speaker 2: All right, Well, you got any dirt you can give
- 27:52Speaker 2: me on Bud before we let you go, Like some
- 27:54Speaker 2: funny story that I can run past him to training camp.
- 27:58Speaker 2: When I get to meet.
- 27:58Speaker 6: Him, oh man, and just just ask him. He'll know.
- 28:02Speaker 6: Just ask him if he's one hundred and ninety five
- 28:04Speaker 6: pounds yet, because that was our ongoing joke, Bud Bud's
- 28:08Speaker 6: uh Bud runs so much. His GPS is so high
- 28:12Speaker 6: that it's hard for my man to gain a little
- 28:14Speaker 6: bit of weight. And he was he was always struggling
- 28:16Speaker 6: to be one ninety. And we're always on him about
- 28:19Speaker 6: his body armor, the way he plays the game, the
- 28:21Speaker 6: way he attacked ball carriers, and so I would always
- 28:24Speaker 6: joke with him that I'm not. I'm not calling you Bud.
- 28:26Speaker 6: I'm gonna call you by your giving name, Jadarius until
- 28:28Speaker 6: you get the one ninety five consistently. So I hope
- 28:32Speaker 6: he is that. I know he is that now, and
- 28:34Speaker 6: I'm looking forward to, you know, for you guys getting
- 28:37Speaker 6: to meet him and be around him and see the
- 28:39Speaker 6: type of person he is as as you guys cover him.
- 28:41Speaker 6: You know, in his career up there some good stuff.
- 28:44Speaker 2: It's listening back like everybody else. That was really good stuff.
- 28:48Speaker 4: That was good stuff. Yeah, coaching, that's what he's talking about.
- 28:51Speaker 2: Yeah, knows knows himself. Some Bud Clark, Andy Abolos. We decided, hey,
- 28:55Speaker 2: we're gonna go outside. Are we gonna find a better
- 28:58Speaker 2: breakdown of Bud Clark than his own defensive coordinator. So
- 29:02Speaker 2: Andy Avolos doesn't even know this today, probably not even
- 29:05Speaker 2: aware of it. Yeah, he's just he's being used in
- 29:08Speaker 2: our Seahawks one series today. So we appreciate that our
- 29:13Speaker 2: one series one analyst bringing down one key Shawk player
- 29:16Speaker 2: for one entire interview in today, TCU defensive coordinator Andy
- 29:20Speaker 2: Aveolos talking about the second round pick of the Seattle
- 29:24Speaker 2: Seahawks sixty fourth overall out of TCU Bud Clark. We'll
- 29:29Speaker 2: have our Seahawks one series recap coming up later today
- 29:32Speaker 2: at eight forty five coming up next. Man, I really
- 29:36Speaker 2: got to grow this holiday because they're really jamming a
- 29:41Speaker 2: lot of stuff into drafts giving. We'll talk about it next.
- 29:43Speaker 2: Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. That's like a
- 29:50Speaker 2: perfect song for I'm getting ready to talk about And
- 29:53Speaker 2: Ashley doesn't even know that. Yeah, you like, that's perfect
- 29:57Speaker 2: because I really because it kind of sounds holiday like
- 30:01Speaker 2: maybe a little Christmas ey, well not quite Christmasy. It's like,
- 30:05Speaker 2: what does that apply to? What kind of event would
- 30:10Speaker 2: that song apply to?
- 30:11Speaker 6: What?
- 30:12Speaker 4: Magic?
- 30:14Speaker 2: So you kind of captured that with that song. Interesting
- 30:17Speaker 2: because I'm a little bit I mean, as everybody knows,
- 30:22Speaker 2: I'm father Draftmas.
- 30:23Speaker 4: Obviously Mom just slipped and referred.
- 30:26Speaker 2: To me as that the other day. I called her, Yeah,
- 30:30Speaker 2: father Draftmas? Are you coming home? I mean son?
- 30:35Speaker 4: Son?
- 30:35Speaker 5: That's what she calls you instead. Yeah, see their father
- 30:37Speaker 5: draftness or son not Charles, not Chuck.
- 30:40Speaker 2: Yeah. And you know what this ties into because you know,
- 30:44Speaker 2: when I'm going to go home next to see my mother.
- 30:47Speaker 2: When I decided to choose Halloween and The reason I'm
- 30:52Speaker 2: choosing Halloween is because the travel during Thanksgiving week is impossible. Yes,
- 31:00Speaker 2: and PS doesn't like us to go on Thanksgiving weekend anyway.
- 31:05Speaker 2: My mom's birthday is also in the first week of November.
- 31:08Speaker 2: As an adult, I have never been home for my
- 31:10Speaker 2: mother's birthday. Oh that's sad right now. So I've already
- 31:15Speaker 2: warned everyone that I'm coming in for Halloween this year.
- 31:19Speaker 2: Then we're going to have Thanksgiving dinner on Saturday on
- 31:22Speaker 2: the so Halloween's Friday, Thanksgiving Dinner on Saturday, and then
- 31:27Speaker 2: we're having a birthday party for my mom and my
- 31:30Speaker 2: sister the following week. So I'm going to celebrate a
- 31:33Speaker 2: lot of holidays.
- 31:33Speaker 4: At once, right, Yeah, I love that.
- 31:36Speaker 2: Okay, good, So you are the person to help me
- 31:39Speaker 2: with this, because like I realized that all the other
- 31:43Speaker 2: drafts combined in sports don't quite equal the NFL Draft.
- 31:49Speaker 2: I mean, all of them to combined aren't as don't
- 31:52Speaker 2: have the hype and pomp and circumstance that the NFL
- 31:56Speaker 2: draft has, but they're all just as or at least
- 32:00Speaker 2: nearly as as important as for laying the foundation for
- 32:05Speaker 2: the talent within your organization. And so They've really clustered
- 32:10Speaker 2: these together for us like never before. Like the NBA
- 32:14Speaker 2: Draft is Tuesday, not Tuesday a month from now, Like
- 32:18Speaker 2: the next Tuesday we have will be the NBA Draft.
- 32:22Speaker 4: That's crazy.
- 32:22Speaker 2: The NHL Draft is that next Friday and Saturday, So
- 32:29Speaker 2: just two three days apart the NBA and the NHL Draft,
- 32:33Speaker 2: and then the Major League Baseball Draft, which used to
- 32:35Speaker 2: always be in June. They've backed it up now and
- 32:37Speaker 2: so now it's in July. But that's three drafts that
- 32:41Speaker 2: we're gonna have to discuss and break down in the
- 32:44Speaker 2: span of less than a month. In three weeks we will.
- 32:49Speaker 2: So where's the day? Where's the time in the calendar
- 32:52Speaker 2: where we celebrate that many holidays that close together? It's
- 32:57Speaker 2: usually Christmas? Right, But we can't use Christmas because because
- 33:00Speaker 2: that's already draft mess. We're already using that, right. So
- 33:03Speaker 2: is there another Because I've always called the NBA draft
- 33:06Speaker 2: drafts giving, and yet drafted Thanksgivings only one day? So
- 33:13Speaker 2: where where's the pocket of the calendar where we're celebrating
- 33:17Speaker 2: a bunch of holidays in a close period of time
- 33:20Speaker 2: that is non Christmas?
- 33:21Speaker 4: That is a tough one.
- 33:23Speaker 5: I mean, you could go like smaller holidays and it
- 33:26Speaker 5: would be like President's Day, Valentine's Day.
- 33:29Speaker 2: Right, that's an option. That's an option.
- 33:33Speaker 4: Draft, youary draft, you just call it draft a. Yeah,
- 33:36Speaker 4: you could do that.
- 33:39Speaker 5: That's I feel like that's the only time where you
- 33:40Speaker 5: have multiple within even a month, aside from December where
- 33:44Speaker 5: you get, well, you have the little ones.
- 33:46Speaker 2: We could do like Father's Day, Flag Day.
- 33:49Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Father's Day, Flag Day and you just July
- 33:53Speaker 5: well and you just had Memorial Day.
- 33:55Speaker 2: That's true.
- 33:55Speaker 4: So you get four within the span of a month.
- 33:58Speaker 4: That might be it.
- 33:59Speaker 2: Yeah, that might be it.
- 34:01Speaker 4: That's what we're going to celebrate here, Dune, that's the winner.
- 34:06Speaker 2: Welcome to Droune. Yeah, starring Timothy Shallow May.
- 34:09Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, that's it.
- 34:13Speaker 2: So uh yeah, I don't know if we've got to
- 34:15Speaker 2: come up with a different concept here, but here we go.
- 34:19Speaker 2: We're getting ready for draft season really, because I mean,
- 34:23Speaker 2: the NFL Draft's the biggest thing. Nothing's ever going to
- 34:25Speaker 2: compare to it. All the rest of them combined don't
- 34:27Speaker 2: even compare to it. But these are all significant moments
- 34:31Speaker 2: on the calendar. They are very important dates to all
- 34:34Speaker 2: of our teams, you know, especially when the Sonics come back.
- 34:39Speaker 2: And I mean this year we have a U dub Husky.
- 34:42Speaker 2: It's going to be a lottery pick this year. So
- 34:44Speaker 2: we're going to cover these. But I don't know, I
- 34:47Speaker 2: don't know. I don't even know what to call it.
- 34:49Speaker 5: Yeah, I like Droune Droune, okay, but I also think,
- 34:53Speaker 5: you know what, I have a feeling our listeners are
- 34:55Speaker 5: going to come up with some good stuff.
- 34:56Speaker 4: They'll send us some options to that might take that over.
- 34:59Speaker 2: Yea, all right. Coming up next here on our radio program,
- 35:02Speaker 2: Brad Evans is going to join us. We will talk
- 35:05Speaker 2: about tomorrow's big match between US and Australia and whether
- 35:10Speaker 2: or not Christian Pulistic is going to play Sports Radio
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