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Midday Missing - Juan Merlos - Interview with sister_ Jackie · True Crime and Wine Time

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  Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and happy Monday. I hope everyone had a
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  Speaker 1: I need to do a little housekeeping, Okay. I've gotten
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  Speaker 1: several messages over the last couple of months as to
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  Speaker 1: why I have social media listed under terry true Crime
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  Speaker 1: and one for personal which means they've tried to look
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  Speaker 1: at my personal and they can't because it's lockdown, and
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  Speaker 1: I like to be transparent, so I wanted to respond
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  Speaker 1: here and I will also respond on social media later today,
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  Speaker 1: because in all honesty, guys, there are several reasons why
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  Speaker 1: I keep my personal social media lockdown. And it is
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  Speaker 1: not because I'm trying to hide anything or because I
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  Speaker 1: pretend to be one thing as Terry True Crime and
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  Speaker 1: I'm something else. Because what you see on any of
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  Speaker 1: to be faith and stop and think, oh am I this. No,
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  Speaker 1: what you see is what you get, okay. Now. I
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  Speaker 1: keep my personal one private, mostly because I have two
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  Speaker 1: amazing grandkids. Yes, I talk about monkey Butt and Axion Jackson,
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  Speaker 1: but I do not share their photos or their real
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  Speaker 1: names anywhere but on my private social media. They are
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  Speaker 1: kids and it is not my place to share their
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  Speaker 1: photos for everyone to see. It's just not okay with
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  Speaker 1: me now. The other is because I do have a
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  Speaker 1: day job. Guys. I am in HR for a global
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  Speaker 1: company and I do not want to share my coworkers
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  Speaker 1: with the world. Because I do go on trips with them.
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  Speaker 1: Some of them are friends because they have a right
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  Speaker 1: to their privacy as well. Now, I do occasionally share
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  Speaker 1: pictures of my oldest adult son, Jeffa, and that's because
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  Speaker 1: I have his consent and he is a friend of
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  Speaker 1: the show, and in fact, we will be having him
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  Speaker 1: on the show in the future to discuss his challenges
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  Speaker 1: with being part of the LGBTQ plus community. Okay, Now
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  Speaker 1: another thing, Like I said, they've accused me of being fake.
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  Speaker 1: They even said I'm not married. Well let me put
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  Speaker 1: that to rest. I am happily married and I will
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  Speaker 1: be celebrating my twenty first wedding anniversary with DOUBLEH this August. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I don't say his name, and I use his nickname
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  Speaker 1: because he too has a career and he wants and
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  Speaker 1: needs his privacy respected. Occasionally I will share a picture
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  Speaker 1: of him. He will be at our in person live
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  Speaker 1: show in May, so he's not trying to hide, okay.
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  Speaker 1: But the final reason is because I like to have
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  Speaker 1: some privacy and keep some things just between me, my
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  Speaker 1: family and my friends. And for all of y'all that
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  Speaker 1: want to judge me, too bad, because it's okay, And
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of like the families with our missing they
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  Speaker 1: want to get their loved one stories out there. They
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  Speaker 1: put theirself out on social media and they need our help.
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  Speaker 1: But that does not mean we have a right to
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  Speaker 1: everything that goes on in their life. They deserve our
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  Speaker 1: respect and their privacy. Even the families that I have
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  Speaker 1: talked to and I get to know, they tell me
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  Speaker 1: things that I will never share because it's not my place.
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  Speaker 1: They deserve their privacy. Okay. Well, with that said, today
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  Speaker 1: we have the sister of Wan murlos On with us,
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  Speaker 1: and he went missing in August of twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 1: Wan is a veteran who is thirty six years old
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  Speaker 1: and his story has not gotten the exposure it needs.
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  Speaker 1: So I am tasking all of us to let's get
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  Speaker 1: his story out there. We will have his flyers posted
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  Speaker 1: on Midday Missing and on Terry True Crime. Please share them.
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  Speaker 1: Also share this video. Okay, and now I would like
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  Speaker 1: to welcome Jackie, who is the younger sister of Wan
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  Speaker 1: who went missing. Welcome Jackie, Hi, thank you for having me. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for joining us today because we're I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we're honored to share one's story and to help get
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  Speaker 1: his story out to as many people as possible. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he is a veteran and most want to thank him
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  Speaker 1: for his service. So now we can do service for
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  Speaker 1: him and for you and the family and share the
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  Speaker 1: hell out of his missing person flyers and get them
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  Speaker 1: out there. Okay, now, Jackie, before we get into Wan's story,
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to let our viewers and listeners know that
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  Speaker 1: we are doing something we have not ever done before
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  Speaker 1: on Midday Missing and that is we are sharing your
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  Speaker 1: family's go fundme page. Okay, all donations will go directly
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  Speaker 1: to the search for Wine. So if you can give
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  Speaker 1: even a dollar, thank guys. If everybody gave a dollar,
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  Speaker 1: that adds up. The family is having to fund and
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  Speaker 1: pay for everything to locate wand on their own. As
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  Speaker 1: the police have said, there's nothing more they can do,
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  Speaker 1: and you all know what I'm about to say, that's bullshit,
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  Speaker 1: because there is always something that can be done. I
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  Speaker 1: will also share that link on our social media later today.
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  Speaker 1: If you are unable to give, which I understand, I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to ask you to please share the GoFundMe link
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  Speaker 1: when you share his missing person flyer. Jackie and her
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  Speaker 1: family have done a lot. Jackie's mom has even she
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  Speaker 1: goes out still and drives the path of where Juan
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  Speaker 1: was last seen and puts up missing person flyers all
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  Speaker 1: out of their own pocket. Guys, they have paid private
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  Speaker 1: investigators out of their pocket and then with some help
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  Speaker 1: from the gofunt me. So when I say they are
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  Speaker 1: doing what they need to do, they are doing everything
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  Speaker 1: we recommend to families to do. So let's try to
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  Speaker 1: help them out that way. Now, Jackie, could you describe
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  Speaker 1: tell us about Yan's personality? And I just want you
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  Speaker 1: to tell us what was so great about him as
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  Speaker 1: an older brother.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Wan was the oldest of five and we came.
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  Speaker 2: My mom was fifteen when she had them, so she
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  Speaker 2: came to the immigrant when she came. She was got
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  Speaker 2: her citizenship now, but she was mom for a while.
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  Speaker 2: And he was our father like figure. He was a
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  Speaker 2: dedicated big brother. He would make our macaroni and cheese.
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  Speaker 2: He'd keep us inside. You know, my mom be worried
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  Speaker 2: stick because it was the time we didn't have phones.
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  Speaker 2: So he we'd be in a trailer and he'd be
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  Speaker 2: like dad number one on one. He was really disciplined.
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  Speaker 2: He was a free thinker and he loved electronics. That's
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  Speaker 2: what he had. He got his computer engineer degree when
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  Speaker 2: he went to the Marine Marine Corps. He loves music
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  Speaker 2: and he loved music festivals.
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  Speaker 1: Sal you always want to go into the Marines? Was
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  Speaker 1: that something he grew up wanting to do?
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, I'll be honest with you. Know, Juan was seventeen
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  Speaker 2: years old when he left because it was his only way.
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  Speaker 2: He thought that he could do something without having to
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  Speaker 2: spend mom's money. He thought, you know what, I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to be somebody. I'm going to do something for this
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  Speaker 2: country that gave us new life, and I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: do it without out my mom's expense, and I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to do my own dedication and my own physical and
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  Speaker 2: mental That's what he did.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that just gave me goosebumps. I mean, I think
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  Speaker 1: militaries fifty to fifty fifty percent grow up wanting to
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  Speaker 1: go in. Maybe they have a family member, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's just how they're taught. And then the other I
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  Speaker 1: think go in because they truly see it as a
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  Speaker 1: stepping stone to have a better life and at the
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  Speaker 1: same time serve their country. And to be honest, I
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  Speaker 1: respect those individuals even more because if you don't have
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  Speaker 1: or come from a family with a large military background.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think you know what you're getting into.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't. Was was it a shock to him?
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  Speaker 2: It was? He left. He graduated in two thousand and five,
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  Speaker 2: and he joined the marine until seventeen years old. And
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  Speaker 2: he was always, you know, the one in charge. So
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  Speaker 2: now going to where you're not in charge. And it
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  Speaker 2: broke him in a different way, that did. It changed
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  Speaker 2: him and molded him differently.
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  Speaker 1: I will say the thing I remembered from when you
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  Speaker 1: and I were talking because I thought about him this
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  Speaker 1: weekend when you said he didn't like to sweat and
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  Speaker 1: be outside, and I said, and they sent him to Afghanistan.
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  Speaker 1: That is his version of hell in that heat. And
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  Speaker 1: I thought about it this weekend when I went to
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  Speaker 1: complain that it was a tad bit warm, I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I can't do that because all of those soldiers that
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  Speaker 1: went to Afghanistan, I need to shut up and not complain.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he did, he went, and I remember he would
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  Speaker 2: send his letters and pictures of him in boot camp,
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  Speaker 2: and then when he was actually out there in Afghanistan,
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  Speaker 2: it just really it turned his world. It shook him
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  Speaker 2: because he did things that many soldiers have to overcome,
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  Speaker 2: things are very proud of.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know if you feel this way. I do,
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  Speaker 1: so it's my opinion. I don't think our Veterans Association
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  Speaker 1: and I don't think in America we do a good
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  Speaker 1: job of taking care of our soldiers who come back
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  Speaker 1: because they do have to do things and see things
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  Speaker 1: that were not equipped to. And I almost feel like
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  Speaker 1: it should be mandatory two years the heavy therapy when
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  Speaker 1: you first come out because the trauma the PTSD from that.
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  Speaker 1: We did that as a country to them and we
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  Speaker 1: asked them to step up. We need to then step
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  Speaker 1: up to them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I remember I reached out to the Veterans when
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  Speaker 2: he went missing Association and they just told me that
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  Speaker 2: they'll refund me his funeral if we ever found them.
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  Speaker 1: And that's all they offered. Yeah, I am so sorry.
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  Speaker 1: That just breaks my heart. I am so sorry. Now,
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  Speaker 1: can you tell us where was one working and where
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  Speaker 1: was he living at the time of his disappearance, because
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  Speaker 1: I believe he had just come back to Texas, right.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, he just came back from California. He stayed there
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  Speaker 2: when he went to Camp Puddleton, He stated, since it
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  Speaker 2: was because it was the Marines. And he came back
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  Speaker 2: two years ago, almost almost two years ago, to come
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  Speaker 2: back home with mom. He started living with Mom in Huntsville,
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  Speaker 2: and then my uncle offered him to stay in his
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  Speaker 2: place and cut and Shoot. It's like in Montgomery County
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  Speaker 2: past Conroe, and he started working with my uncle and
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  Speaker 2: a pipeline like a superintendent position where he would oversee
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  Speaker 2: the workers for him.
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  Speaker 1: I will say, people who are from Texas or lived
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  Speaker 1: in Texas, everybody knows where Conroe and Cutting is. I
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  Speaker 1: will tell you I've had people ask me when I've
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  Speaker 1: lived in other states. They're like, is there really a
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  Speaker 1: cut in Shoote Texas? And I'm like, yes, it's really
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  Speaker 1: called cut in Shoe Texas. Okay, now tell us what
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  Speaker 1: was going on in Wan's life at the time he
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  Speaker 1: went missing, because I'm going to say it wasn't just
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  Speaker 1: Swan's life, it was your entire family.
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  Speaker 2: So a year before he went missing, our father father
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  Speaker 2: all five wass so we have the same father. He's
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  Speaker 2: actually Juan Junior. So Kwan Senior was killed. He was
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  Speaker 2: ran over by a car in Los Angeles, so we
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  Speaker 2: all had to travel to go bury. My father and
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  Speaker 2: give it funds for him. And it was the struggle.
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  Speaker 2: We all grieved together, all five of us did on
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  Speaker 2: July fourth and twenty twenty three. It was a year
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  Speaker 2: of us trying trying to get the together, started to
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  Speaker 2: become closer as a unit because it was hard for
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  Speaker 2: us to lose our dad. And then in July eighth,
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  Speaker 2: four years, I mean four days a year and four days,
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  Speaker 2: my sister was she died in the hurricane Barrel. She
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  Speaker 2: was in a car accident and she got ejected out
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  Speaker 2: the vehicle, the youngest of those five. So that really
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  Speaker 2: pour us apart. And the thing is that I had experienced,
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  Speaker 2: I had experienced on how to do a funeral from
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  Speaker 2: a year before with my dad, because nobody knew what
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  Speaker 2: to do, and I was figuring that out. She had
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  Speaker 2: two small children and my brother Juan, he was very sensitive,
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  Speaker 2: hyper sensitive because of his PTSD, and he was just
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  Speaker 2: trying to figure itself out too. I almost felt like
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  Speaker 2: the big sister myself at this point because Juan was
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  Speaker 2: it was debilitated with his his trauma, right. He cried
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  Speaker 2: so hard. I remember I was hugging and he just
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  Speaker 2: felt helpless. Then two days after my sister's death. We
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  Speaker 2: were figuring out the funeral. My brother Oscar was diagnosed
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  Speaker 2: with kidney cancer and we just didn't know. I just
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna lose them all, and I took it
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  Speaker 2: upon myself to figure out Karen's funeral. We had help
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  Speaker 2: from a lot of people, and without the help from everybody,
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't have done it. Juan was just so he
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  Speaker 2: kind of like backed off. He started staying and cutting
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  Speaker 2: you more, disiliting mom once a week because he was
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  Speaker 2: grieving pretty pretty hard. Yeah, with all of us grieving,
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  Speaker 2: we just kind of it was hard to reach out,
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  Speaker 2: you know. But he did come around, and then he
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  Speaker 2: had a breakup with a young lady and after that
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  Speaker 2: he went to work and never showed up.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, even if you're not dealing with PTSD after
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  Speaker 1: serving in the military, that's enough to break any person.
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  Speaker 1: That's a lot, and especially if you're the big brother.
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  Speaker 1: I can only imagine he probably felt like it was
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  Speaker 1: his responsibility to take care of everybody, make sure everybody
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  Speaker 1: was okay, and then to have to see you to
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  Speaker 1: step up to play in the funeral. Probably I can
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  Speaker 1: only imagine made him feel less and that he wasn't
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  Speaker 1: you know, doing good. Now, he wasn't in a good place,
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  Speaker 1: but he was still going to work and stuff. But
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  Speaker 1: then on a Monday, he didn't go to work, right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. He did go to work the day
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  Speaker 2: he disappeared. He went to work to think it was
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  Speaker 2: called Pope. I'm not sure what the city was called.
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  Speaker 2: It was somewhere. Yes, He went to Porter and to
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  Speaker 2: go see that, see the group of guys that are working.
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  Speaker 2: And then he had to go back to Houston by
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  Speaker 2: the airport. My uncle lived to change the truck out
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  Speaker 2: because his truck was messing up. It was a work truck,
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  Speaker 2: and he went to change the work truck out, came
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  Speaker 2: back to cutting and shoot at one o'clock and left
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  Speaker 2: at four and kept driving. We don't know why. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. We don't know why. He was just took
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  Speaker 2: off driving to it.
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  Speaker 1: We don't y'all didn't find that out till later. So
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  Speaker 1: I stopped so people. No, So he didn't show up
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  Speaker 1: for work the next day, and your uncle, his boss
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  Speaker 1: was like, you know, he's dealing with a lot, not
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  Speaker 1: going to bother him or anything. So the rest of
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  Speaker 1: the week went by, and then when he didn't show up,
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  Speaker 1: at your mom's house on saturd I believe he told
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  Speaker 1: me y'all called the police, and that's when you knew
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  Speaker 1: something wasn't right. And that's when y'all found out he
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  Speaker 1: took off on it in somewhere. Yes, Now did he
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  Speaker 1: mention going anywhere? I know he was supposed to go
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  Speaker 1: somewhere in August to go to California to go see
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  Speaker 1: some old friends, go to a fund rave, But besides that,
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  Speaker 1: had he mentioned that he was going to be going anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: No, he told me, he said, sister, I'm you know,
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  Speaker 2: going to I'm gonna start dating again. I'm gonna, you know,
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  Speaker 2: get out there again. Maybe you know, I'm living my
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  Speaker 2: life not correctly after losing Karen. Maybe I need to
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  Speaker 2: do something else. And I told him, I said, And
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  Speaker 2: he told me, I'm going to go to Wasteland this
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  Speaker 2: this music festival on the thirtieth. I'm gonna fly out
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  Speaker 2: on the twenty eighth. Okay, he disappeared on the twentieth
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  Speaker 2: twenty first. Oh, he was excited for that. He had
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  Speaker 2: a flight. If you had a flight, you wouldn't just drive, right.
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  Speaker 2: It's he missed the flight and and the girl with
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  Speaker 2: his friends at Jasmine and Alex like gole say their
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  Speaker 2: last name, but yeah, they're going to the festival with him.
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  Speaker 2: And he called her. She told me he called her
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  Speaker 2: at like two or something in the morning and she
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  Speaker 2: didn't pick up because it was late, right, she was
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  Speaker 2: probably asleep. And that was the last phone call that
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  Speaker 2: he put made out.
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  Speaker 1: Was it abnormal for him to call her at two
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  Speaker 1: thirty in the morning or was that a normal thing?
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  Speaker 2: It was abnormal?
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  Speaker 1: Abnormal? So something. Now y'all found out that his truck,
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  Speaker 1: you know, was recorded passing through a toll on Iten
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  Speaker 1: in Segovia, Texas at five o'clock on that day.
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  Speaker 2: Actually the picture to the license plate reader in Anthony, Texas.
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  Speaker 1: In Anthony, Texas.
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  Speaker 2: Now Phobia then got to Anthony, Texas.
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  Speaker 1: Does he know anybody up in that area?
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  Speaker 2: No, ma'am, he didn't know anybody, now him on a
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  Speaker 2: dating side or something or right?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Now he found out that he had withdrawn
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  Speaker 1: around five hundred dollars from his bank account. Was that
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  Speaker 1: unusual or would he do that because he was planning
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  Speaker 1: on going to California on the twenty eighth? Was that
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  Speaker 1: in preparation of that or was that unusual.
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  Speaker 2: I think was hon He was trying to make more
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  Speaker 2: money so he could go have fun, but he would
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  Speaker 2: take it out usually not that much. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: know he seemed like a lot to everybody, but he
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: was actually struggling a little bit, so that much money
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: was kind of odd for us for him to take out,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: especially the transactions he was making. He was like when
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: they when they subpoenaed his chase. Now they saw that
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: he was just going to love gas stations and paying
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: for fuel. He paid for fuel and El Paso he
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: paid for fuel in Anthony, Texas, and for some reason
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: on the twenty fourth, the last I want to say,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: the withdrawal was at the Loves and l passol. Wow.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Now, and for those that don't know Anthony texts, So
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: did he go to Anthony, Texas because he also went
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: up through New Mexico.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Correct, Anthony, Texas and New Mexico was like the same
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: city with two different states.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's one of those sun things, Okay, So it's
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: part Texas, part New Mexico. Now, given one had been
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: diagnosed with PTSD, was he undergoing any treatment or counseling
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: at the time.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Not. At the time he went missing, he was doing
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: more meditation and more like. He started becoming more zin
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: with him. I'm not sure if anybody knows about like holistically, Yeah,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: he started becoming more He changed a lot. Okay, so
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: when he came back, he used to be very direct,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: very strict, very you know. Now he became more more sweet,
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: more loving, more giving, more I need to find peace
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: within myself. So he started doing a really good He
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: was being really different and good. He you know he
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: would he wasn't the same anxious man he used to be.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Now, did y'all ever have any concerns or thoughts that
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: made you worried about his mental health, that he would
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: hurt himself or anything.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: No, Juan never gave any indication that he everyone had
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: heard could kill himself ever. Of a three spirit, be happy,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: find happiness in what you.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Have, and considering everything your mom had been through, I
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: can't imagine. I mean, it would shock me if that
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: thought was in his mind after all the loss that
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: your mom went through and the fact that he was
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: close to her, still want to see her every Saturday.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, he helped her. That was one of his main people.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: If anybody would know about him would be her. He
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: would share with her, I'm going to go here for
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: a while, and if she didn't want her to tell anybody,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: she wouldn't tell nobody, you know, So he would confide
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: with her if he was going to leave somewhere.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Did he have any other close friends or confidence beside
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: your mom?
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he had a friend, a really good friend. Her
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: name was Amy and California. She's actually one of the
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: ones that contacted me when he wasn't responding to her
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: and when we started alerted us that he was basically
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: like something was wrong. You know. She was really really
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: sweet lady. I actually got to know her and talk
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: to her, and she helped me so much through this.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: But she just wouldn't, you know, do her thing. It's understandable, Yeah.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: I mean it says to me a lot about people
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: if friends start texting someone and they don't respond, Like
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I have a couple of friends that are bad at responding,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: so I wouldn't panic. But my friends that I text
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: and they get back to me within an hour or so,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: if they didn't get back to me, I would be panicked.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: So it sounds like he had that kind of relationship,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: which is good.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Did with me. We would we would talk back and forth,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: but like it was funny, like tiktoks and memes and
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: stuff like that.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: You know, that's still communication in my book.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so with communications. The last time I talked to
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: him was a day before he disappeared, and he he
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: was just telling me how proud he was of me
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: and telling me to stay strong and they loved me,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: and he'll see me at moms you know. So I
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: was like, Okay, I'll see at Mom's because I live,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: you know, far from a moment about two hours away,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: So I would we'd meet each other in the weekends,
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: me and him, Right.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that y'all would go see mom on Saturday.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm that fairy tale girl that I wish.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: We used to watch that show Blue Bloods and they
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: all had family together, you know, family dinner every Sunday.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: I have that fairy tale girl. I wish my kids
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: lived close enough, my grandkids and that we could do
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: that every Sunday. But the fact that y'all did it
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: and went to see your mom is just amazing. Now,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: can you tell us about the dating apps he went on?
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Because I know he was getting back out there. Did
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: he mention plans to meet up with anyone, or that
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: he had made a match. I don't know exactly what
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: it's called on the apps, but had he made a
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: connection with anyone?
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: No, he didn't mention anything to me. I know that
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: he was after the breakup he had with a recent
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: girlfriend that he really cared about. He he wasn't going
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: to try nothing serious, was anybody.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: So I get that.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: So he was like, you know, I'm gonna do casual
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: And he didn't tell me any matches or he just
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: was excited like oh yeah, you know, I'm ready, And
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, brother, you know you're not sister brothers?
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Now I'm assuming he had a cell phone with.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Him, Yes, and here was an Android user. He was
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: the only Android user in her family.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: We won't hold that against him because I know a
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: lot of people that are that way, But we won't
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: hold it against him. Now, what steps have been taken
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: by law enforcement?
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Well, they subpoened his cell phone records, just the calls,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: and he only subpoenaed like the calls from the nineteenth,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: like just the day before. And it was kind of
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: odd to me. But why did he I know I
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: would subpoena I don't know. The only answer we got
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: is the phone call he made the Jasmine told free
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: calls from like a debt collectors, and and that's it.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Like and did they do his tower drop to see
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: where his phone pinged?
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: No, they didn't do that. I'm just so confused, Like
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: I'll see these crime shows and I don't know why
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: they wouldn't do that, And maybe it's just because he's
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: not a homicide or something right now, But.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: No, they do it for missing person cases. We hear
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: about it all the time. So I'm going to tell
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: doctor Detective mcclin talk in Montgomery County, could you maybe
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: answer my calls what I call and tell me why
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: y'all didn't do this. Not shaming you, because there could
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: be a very good legitimate reason. I like to be
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: educated and know why, because we have talked to families
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: of missing and they've done that and it helps them
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: know the last place that phone pinged, and that gives
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: you an idea did their phone die, because if he
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: was in his truck, I bet you had a phone charger,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: so if his phone died, it might give you an
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: idea of where he was. Yeah, the last ping, So
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: just let people know. El Paso, if you're not familiar,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: borders New Mexico, but it also borders Mexico. A lot
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: of people go across the war as done it a
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: lot of times. I don't know if I would do
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: it today, but they did check with Homeland Security, I believe,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: and his truck, or at least his truck with his
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: license plate, did not cross into Mexico. So the only
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: way it went into Mexico is if someone changed the
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: license plate. Am I Is that right?
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Yes? I mean like they didn't change the license plate,
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: because we suspect everything. Maybe someone changed the license but
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: maybe they just chop shop the truck. Maybe you know,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: maybe they from the side of a canyon. Like with
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: the possib we just think.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: So possibilities are endless. And that's why that last ping
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: would be so good to have, because what if the
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: last ping is over in Mexico, then you would know
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: one hundred percent that at least the phone went there.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: So I'm still trying to reach Detective McClintock, so maybe
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: he will talk to me, and I keep wanting to
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: call him doctor because I have a doctor named doctor McClintock.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Now you and your family have done a lot in
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: the search of one. Will you share with us what
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: all you, your mom and your family have done.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Well. First we hired a PI, and the PI went
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: to his house to look at what he could find,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: and they found a used condom in.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: His dating app was working.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Apparently they just they looked through his trash. I mean
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: things that just I guess they do. They called around,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: like to the mental hospitals everywhere, you know, on toll
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: truck places, and to think that I did myself and
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: they had they even knew the jerome to go to
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: it from days to when the areas that he went
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: missing looking for him, looking at the fields.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: They police ever go through his house like a crime
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: scene and look for anything.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: No, ma'am, really, no, ma'am.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: The amount of times officers to not go through family
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: members' homes or an individual's home when they go missing
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: is so shocking to me. Because they're the experts. They
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: might have been able to see something or find something.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the only thing that the cop said is, oh,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: looks like the cobwebs on his on his like marijuana thing,
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: because he did recreational sometimes, like looks like he you know,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: had been here a while, and I was like, okay.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Or maybe he just hadn't used it in a while.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, if he's using it recreational, he may do
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: it once in a month. Now what else, Because I
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: have to tell you when we were talking about everything
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I've done, and your mom does, tell us what your
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: mom does.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: And all the way to California once a month, sometimes twice,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: you go through the same roads in access he goes through,
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: looks out. I'm talking about my mom drives the whole way.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: I'm worried about her. I have her own life three
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: sixty I'm over here looking at her. She had my
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: uncles go with her or a friend go with her,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: and she just she'll take pictures, she'll look, she'll put
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: flyers in the hop and at the hospitals, at the
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: at the gas stations. He'll go to the churches. She'll
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: talk to the law enforcement. Law enforcement Anthony New Mexico
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: side was very helpful. They actually did a search and
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: rescue for him. They did, like three of them volunteers
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: on the weekends. Then't find nothing. They went through a
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: huge area. Uh didn't find anything.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: But they went and looked. I mean that's more than
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Texas has done dogs.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: You know, they had drones. You know. We also got
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: another PI in New Mexico, this time not in Texas
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: and to go to New Mexico side and they went
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: and they saw like that he had like there was
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: a surveillance in the Loves and Anthony where he went
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: inside and there was the actual witness and the guy's name,
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: you know, his little dude, I'm called him a He
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: was attended a gas station. Attended that actually called Tective
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: mcclintalk and gave him a tip, like, hey, I saw
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: this guy, but he called him September and I didn't
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: get that information until October because I kept calling bombarding him.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: He's like, oh, yeah, I was this guy called in
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: he want his number, and I'm like, yeah, so I
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: called this guy.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: He told me, like, did McClintock ever call the guy
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: and talk to him?
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: No, he did it. He said he wouldn't answer him,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: but he answered me. You know. So it really has
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: been so frustrating for me because I don't know if
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: I'm just being asking for too much or you're not.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: You're not.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: I'm going to just tell you I want to do it.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Pissed the guy off and he'd just be like, oh whatever,
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: you know, Like.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, it would be different if he would
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: answer the phone and tell you, hey, nothing's going on,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: or but I mean to tell you that a tip
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: came in. I would have my expectation, Hey, this guy
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: called in a tip. I've called him trying to talk
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: to him, not just give me the information to do
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: your job for you.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did. I called him though. I went ahead
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: and called him and he said he saw my brother.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: He went inside that day at three in the morning
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: if he worked a night shift, so it makes sense
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: with a timeframe, you know, right, he said, he walked in,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: he was serious, He went to the bathroom. He was sweating,
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: and then he came back and he just was like
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: he remembered his face because we have a distinctive nose,
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: you know, And he said, are you okay, you know,
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: because he was sweating, and he was like, I'm just hot,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: And that's all my brother said to him. And he
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: paid for his guests and he left. They don't have
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: outside surveillance though, and they looked outside.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: His truck wasn't out there, and he was he alone.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: He was alone, They said he was alone. But on
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: the picture you could see there's a pillow. I don't know,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: there's a pillow behind him in the picture or something,
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: you know. And I've looked a picture so long trying
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: to figure out what the deal and what is it?
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Like, Yeah, I'm gonna have to study that too.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: That my uncle. He wouldn't just take my uncle's truck
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: and run.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Away, you know, right, And that was the other thought.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: It didn't belong to him. I mean, almost makes me wondering.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: And this is gonna sound crazy, but I wonder if
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: your uncle reported it stolen.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: They wouldn't let him.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, they wouldn't let him. I was like, maybe then
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: they would at least look for the truck.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: They have a bolo, will be on the lookout for
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: the truck. But they wouldn't let him report it stolen
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: because he was already reported as a missing person.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's sad that my first thought is that
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: they would look for the vehicle more than a person.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: And I'm not saying all law enforcement, not all counties
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: are that way, but some lead me to that. And
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, and it is August. So even at three
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning in August in New Mexico, it
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: was probably still ninety nine or close to one hundred.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: I lived there one summer, and let me tell you,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: it is hot. I mean it's hot, so him sweating.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: Because at first when you had told me that, I
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: was like, ooh, what was going on? But then I
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: got to think, and it was hot. It's still hot even,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: I mean I'm assuming the truck had air conditioning.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: That's one hundred in the picture like that. I thought
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: it was gonna be somebody else that stole his truck
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: or something, but it was it's actually him. It has
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: his chin everything. My mom for a while was like,
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: that's probably not him, but it's my brother.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: It's him. Has there been any other sightings reported.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: That last the last UH witnessed, There was no sightings.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: There's no even there's not even more l LPR like
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: the license plate readers, like none anywhere. So if I
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: feel like the truck is there like an it's either
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: El Paso or in Anthony, Texas, it hasn't left. If
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: you know, with the license plate, of course it wouldn't change.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Right, So so they didn't see it going again from
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Anthony to l Passo because that's only you know, I
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: think like an hour or something. Now, is there anything
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: that you think the public should know about Wand that
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: may help us and assist him, because like I'm gonna
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: ask everybody if you have any groups in New Mexico, Alpasso, Texas,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: West Texas share his flyers and information in this video there.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: But is there anything else that you think that can
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: help us and Huarez?
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure if there was foul pay and play
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: and he was crossed over, you know Wang, so one
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: would never go to Mexico unless it was against his will.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, one never had no interest in that. You know,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: we had no family were if we're out Salvadoran's discent,
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: we're not Mexican descent, right, so no family there or nothing.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: If there's anybody that they know anything in HuaaS, maybe
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: if this is an anonymous tip, don't even have to
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: tell who you are. Just let us go. So because
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: if he's with us, we could have him home. If not,
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: we could bury it.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, y'all need answers and need to deserve
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: you deserve.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: That military bird.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, I hate to say it, but
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: when you get up to those border towns, there's no
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: telling what can happen I mean, for all we know,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: he met a girl on one of those apps, Zenel Passo,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: and he decided, you know what, I have just realized
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: that I need to live life. I just lost my sister,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: my brother's been diagnosed with cancer. I'm gonna go do this.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: I need to live life. And then something nefarious happened.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: And that's the thing that we try to tell everybody.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: Even if he did, you know, say, hey, I'm going
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: on a drive. I need to get away for a week.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Still something nefarious could happen. And that's why we need people.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: God like, you know, I don't believe in this stuff.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: I even like contacted the pye Age, Yeah I did,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: and I was like, what in the world will happened?
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: And she just freaked me out with what she said.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, let me not go that
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: route because I'm already in the dark place.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: So long, Yeah, let's not go there. But I mean,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: I even want to tell people if you've seen his
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: truck at a chop shop, if it came into your
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: chop shop, you don't have to tell us how it
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: got there. Just call in a tip and say that
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: the truck came through. So then that gives one more piece,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: because a missing person case is like any other case,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: there is all of these puzzle pieces. Who's not to
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: say that that one little piece of information couldn't help
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: give you guys the answers right now? How is his
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: disappearance impacted your family? I mean and your mom as
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: a mom my heart, I just want to give your
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: mom and you a big old hug.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: My mom is torn. She lost half of her kids.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: We have so from all five of us, one of
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: the oldest, then Nelson's a severe autistic disabled. He's at
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: home with her forever. Then Oscar had diagnosed with cancer.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: That that threw her for a loop. There's me and
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: then Karen. You know, she's gone. So my mom is
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: torn into pieces. I try to keep it together for her.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: I try to give her answers. She always questions, She
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: always asks me what would have been done? She just
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: doesn't speak too good English, so it's almost like she
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: just like it's behind me, like you know, like asking me,
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: shaking me for answers, and I just I understand her
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: because I have sons myself, and I love my brother
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: and she and that was her. You know, your oldest
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: child is always the one that goes through things.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: With you, especially when you're a young mom. Yeah, what together.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Boy means the world to her and she's so proud
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: of him, and she just doesn't want him to be gone,
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: doesn't want to accept that. If you tell her any
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: of these ideas, she would say, he's out here, He's
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: out here, gonna find him. She's not giving up, but
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: it has torn pretty hard. Days. I can't even wake
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: up without messing up my makeup twice. My son loves
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: him so much. My son wants to be him. He
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: holds his picture, he loves them. All the kids love him,
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: and it just he was Easter Bunny. He was the
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: one that wore the Easter eggs and the Eastern hat
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: and he had the snacks taped on him and he'd
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: run and the kids would chase him, like, oh my god,
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: I love all of the holidays. I mean nothing to
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: us right now. I my marriage too, is My husband
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: struggles so hard because I just some days I've just
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: shut down.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: And that's what people don't understand is when somebody goes missing,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: it's not just that person. And if somebody did dake
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: him or do something, have some decency because it affects
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: an entire family and community. For God's sake, it's a veteran,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: you know, not saying they're better than anyone, but they
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: gave their lives. I mean, he could have potentially been
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: killed over there. He gave up in some ways, there's sanity,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: saw things that a human should never have to see.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: We owe him to find him. I'm just gonna say
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: we all owe him that because of the service he
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: did for us. We owe him that. Now I want
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: everyone I know we've shown the picture, but while he
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: was last scene in A two thousand and nine, it's
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: a blue Chevy Silverado if you're not into trucks, but
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: the truck was last seen in Segovia, Texas. But we
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: do know it was also in Anthony, New Mexico. Went
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: to Opass, so you can go back and forth across
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: from there, so it's like going from Houston to Conroe
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: and back and forth. I mean, it's just right there.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: He does have a large skull tattoo with a butterfly
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: under his left arm, and he was last seen wearing
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: a black shirt and black pants. And I want to
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: beg and plead if anyone has any information regarding wand
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: or his truck. Please call the Montgomery County Sheriff's Office
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: at nine three six seven six zero five eight zero
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: zero and you can do option three and you can
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: refer to his case number which is two four A
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: two four three four eight one two, or you can
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: just tell them Terry True Crime said it's Jan Murlows.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: You don't. They don't need the number. They can just
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: look it up in their system. Okay. I also want
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: to ask everyone to please share the missing poster flyers
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: that we have up on our social media and share
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: this episode with anyone in everyone you know, if you
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: know veteran groups where you live, if you know people
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: in New Mexico, Texas, Mexico, let's share it. Okay. I
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: also want you to think about donating to the GoFundMe
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: account if you can. If you can't, let's please share
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: it and get it out there so that this family
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: can get more money. I mean, guys, her mom is
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: driving that many hours once or twice a month in
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: delivering flyers. Guys, let's think about the financial cost of
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: making those flyers, the gas, getting food on top of
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: the emotional cost. So let's please share that and donate
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: if you can. Okay, and Jackie, I want to say
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: thank you to you. My heart hurts for you and
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: the family. I wish I had a magic wand I
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: wish I could hit it. Every case hurts me. Your
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: family has gone through so much in such a short
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: amount of time. I can't, for the life of me
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: imagine that you're not in bed every day. The fact
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: that you're still getting up, raising your boys, trying to
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: be a wife, do all of these things. I applaud you,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: and you have my respect because I don't know if
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: I'm that strong, and I'm glad your husband's trying to understand.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: It takes a toll on everyone, and I will tell
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: you our community may be small, but they're mighty. We
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: will share it and do what we can. Thank you, so,
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: thank you again for coming on with us. I do
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: appreciate it. Okay, now, guys, I want to thank you
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: all again for joining me today. And I do have
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: to say. It looks like my monkey butt is in
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: the chat room because she is at home with the
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: flu instead of at my house because she has the flu.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: Hello monkey Butt, I hope you're feeling better. I want
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: to say I look forward to seeing you all again
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: on Wednesday for our next episode of Midday Missing. I
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: want to remind you that we do now have a
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Midday Missing Facebook page where we share all of the
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: missing poster flyers. We also share other flyers that we
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: have verified that they're not scams and that they are
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: real missing person flyers. Okay. You can also stay connected
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: with us on our True Crime and Wine Time page.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: That's the page where we talk, chat and do things
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: like that. You can also find me, like I said earlier,
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: on all social medias as Terry True Crime. You can
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: message me, chat with me anything like that. If you
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: have a tip and you don't want to call the
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: police because you don't trust them, feel free to message me.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: I will be more than happy to get it into
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: the right hands. Okay. I also want to remind you
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: that True Crime and Wine Time this Thursday, we will
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: have James Altgeldt, who is retired law enforcement officer on
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: and we are going to ask him questions about what
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: it's like being in law enforcement behind the badge, the
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: effects it takes on him, and I've got a lot
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: of questions to ask him. Okay. Also on Sunday, we
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: will be back for episode two of our Zizzy and
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: Cult special. Guys, it's Bunny Boiler, batshit crazy. If you
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: know nothing about it, you need to come and listen
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: because producer Terror has done a great job along with
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: the rest of the team, researching and breaking it down
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: to help us understand. Okay, now, you can catch all
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: of our shows right here on YouTube and Facebook. I
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: do know that our episode today there was problems. It
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: did not stream live on Facebook. I will go and
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: upload it to Facebook. For those who normally see it
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: on Facebook can still see it. Now. For those of
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: you that want to see me and JT in person live,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: we are going to be at the Hamilton Pool Vineyard
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: and Farm, Austin, Texas on May third. Okay, guys, we
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: are going to be in person on the stage doing
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: our normal stuff, but we are going to be covering
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: the shocking case of the Texas Yogurt shop murders. If
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: you're from Texas live in the Austin area, this case
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: is a big, unsolved case and the tickets are officially
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: on sale now. There is a discount code through March
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: fifteenth to get money off. So I want to tell
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: you all thank you for joining me. Please Let's share
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: this story, get the flyers out, share the video, and
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: I want to ask you all to please until next time,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: stay safe, day aware, and please let's help these families
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: bring their loved ones home. Bye, guys, I'll see you
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: on Wednesday.