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Solving the Existential Crisis of Humanity Through the Evolution of Consciousness · Sri Aurobindo Studies

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Welcome to the self-growth.com show, my name is David Rick
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Allen and I'm the founder of self.com.
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They will be discussing solving Humanity's existential crisis,
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through the evolutionary development of Consciousness.
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I know that's a very challenging concept.
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We're going to delve in deep, is a lot of problems going on in
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the world right now to help us understand these topics.
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I'm excited to interview, Santosh krinsky.
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Make sure you have something to write with.
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We're going to be sharing A lot of information today before we
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get started, I want to take a couple of minutes and share some
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information on Santosh, Santosh Prince qi's, been studying.
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Three-hour been doze the life Divine since 1971 and we'll be
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getting into some detail about who he is and why he's
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important. He's lived in the USA, Europe
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and Indian is been and remains active in the natural products
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industry since 1974. He's the editor at Lotus press a
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publisher of books on spirituality and Wellness with a
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special focus on ayurveda Reiki and herbalism.
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And the writings of Sri aurobindo.
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He is himself, the author of 13 books of readings.
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Focus on the works of Sri aurobindo and he publishes a
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daily blog post. As he expands his study Santosh
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is president of a non-profit Institute for holistic
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education, which is dedicated to the work of integrating,
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spirituality into daily life. He resides with his wife karuna
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hope, I get the pronunciation right in Honolulu Hawaii.
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Santosh, welcome to Today's Show.
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Well, thank you. It's my pleasure to be here.
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All right, very excited. A lot of deep topics I want to
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cover today and we're going to delve in deeply, but the first
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thing I want to start with something, I mentioned terms of
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the broad topic, what is this existential crisis of humanity
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today? So let's take a broad.
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Look, what is that? Well, essentially, we're looking
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at A lot of changes that have taken place since the Industrial
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Revolution to the point where we are experiencing massive species
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die off on the planet. Yep.
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Sign it change the development of weapons that can totally
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annihilate Humanity, but even more Close to home.
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We have a very small percentage of people on the planet who
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live, like the greatest Kings or maharaja's in history.
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While billions of people are barely able to survive, we have
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a fresh water crisis, right thing across the world, we have
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a food crisis, we have a lot of tensions because of these issues
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that's leading to mass migrations and warfare and a lot
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of saber-rattling going on around the world.
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Now clearly Humanity has dozens of ways to destroy ourselves and
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the planet right now that we didn't have two or three hundred
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years ago and people are anxious fearful and confused about what
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to do about it. Because these are such massive
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problems. Someone mentioned to me just
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this morning that even Warren Buffett with all his billions of
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dollars says that he cannot solve these types of problems.
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And it makes him confused fearful and concerned.
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Thank you for mentioning that to me this morning.
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Welcome. It's interesting.
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There's no there's been no time in our history like this.
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Where we have, as you mentioned, just so many means of
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self-destruction self-annihilation like never
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before. It's amazing that we put
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ourselves in position but with that hopefully will be
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discussing today. Some things that we can do that
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individuals can do and we can do a society and Mankind to offset
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some of these challenges that we deal with.
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So I want to take a minute because I know one of the things
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you've done, is you focused on studying three-hour, been doze
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life and his worked, why is he important?
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Why is important in general? And how does some of his
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teachings applying? What we're going to be talking
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about today. Okay, well basically I should
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say I've studied a vast array of spiritual and religious
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teachings from around the world, Christianity Judaism Hinduism
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Buddhism along the way. So I'm not essentially limited
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there. Right.
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What I found in the work of Sri aurobindo was he integrated a
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lot of disparate facts that we do not Normally understand the
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common thread and showed that there is an evolution of
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Consciousness that has been taking place on our planet since
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its Inception, as a ball of fiery matter up.
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To the point that human beings came forward and people have
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misunderstood the idea of evolution.
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They think it's some kind of Situation where man descended
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from the apes or whatever. And whether or not that's
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physically true about the physical Evolution, more
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importantly, he speaks about an evolution of Consciousness,
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right? The Consciousness in matter,
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then the Consciousness in the vital force of plants and then
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animals and eventually the development of the human being
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The mental Consciousness and all of these things, systematically
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came forward and develop the forms that were able to hold
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that level of Consciousness. And at this point, we find that
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the evolutionary crisis is that we are applying to problems.
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We created with our mental consciousness Manage the
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material world and the vital world around us.
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But with the limitations of the mental Consciousness, we've
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created a hole for ourselves that we've dug ourselves into
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and SRI aurobindo point out that the evolution of Consciousness
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is not finished and that it is at times when Nature creates a
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crisis of Existential proportions that the next level
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of Consciousness must appeared and must begin to act upon the
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world or we wind up destroying ourselves.
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And so, I think that's the important aspect that SRI
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aurobindo focused on that really is something revolutionary.
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Albert Einstein said we cannot solve our problems with the same
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thinking we used when we created them.
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And that's why we're all confused and fearful nowadays
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because we keep trying to apply mental ideas and solutions to
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problems that now are far beyond what any mental solution can
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provide, which is why we have everyone shouting at each other
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and why we have gridlock in our society because we're all seeing
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one little piece of the puzzle and say.
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This is the solution. And in fact, all of them have
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limitations and weaknesses based on the limits of the mental
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consciousness, All right, let me delve a little deeper into a few
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things that you've said so far. So one of the challenges you
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mentioned in terms of trying to find a solution to, this
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existential crisis, is we really haven't evolved our level of
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Consciousness hasn't evolved yet.
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Is that the main reason that past Solutions past things that
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we've tried have failed or there are other there other aspects to
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it. Well, some of it is just we have
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used the mental power primarily to try to aggrandize ourselves
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materially and vitally. We use it to fulfill our
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desires, fulfill our greed. We don't even apply the mental
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Consciousness in a way that uplifts us.
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It basically, we tried to find ways to have more technology.
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The creation have more enjoyment and how to game the system if
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you will, right? Rather than understanding why it
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is, we are alive. And what it is.
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We are meant to do with our lives on this planet.
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If we think that the entire purpose of the creation of the
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universe is to eat drink and be merry.
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Well frankly, we Probably have to limited a Viewpoint about
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things. Alright?
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So in essence, it sounds like you're saying that this massive
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brain power and development. We've really been focusing on
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almost the pleasure. It's the kind of the, the
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physical Pleasures in most cases instead of understanding and
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taking into account the kind of the spiritual world and our
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conscious level of being that all this energy.
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But we have this brain power, but it's just used in.
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And one very specific focus and instead of using it, broadly and
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fix things for now in the future that is that an accurate view.
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That's one side of the picture and it's it's a good start but
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we're not limited to the brain power of the mental
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Consciousness, the evolution continues and new manifestations
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of Consciousness will evolve beyond the mental level and so
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there's two aspects to it. One is we're not using our minds
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to their optimum optimum potential.
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Secondly, we're not opening ourselves and becoming receptive
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to the pressure of the next level of Consciousness.
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That's trying to manifest in the world.
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We are capable of achieving that level through our development
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of, maybe we should go quickly into the evolution of
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Consciousness for a loan because without that we're sort of stuck
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here. Okay, let's focus on that.
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Okay, so, If somebody were looking at the planet Earth
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billions of years ago, they would have seen a ball of
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matter. They would have not seen any
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forms of life whatsoever. Yes.
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You fast forward several billion years and suddenly you see plant
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life evolving and coming forward out of matter, and if you keep
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fast-forwarding, you see, animal life coming and eventually you
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see human life coming with each level, you see Anu?
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Our of Consciousness, hmm. What's the material Level?
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Which is very much mechanical in nature, its atoms, and
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molecules, and forces of gravity and electricity, and that type
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of thing. At the plant and animal level,
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you begin to see a vital reactive force force.
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That has attraction and repulsion, and desires, and
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various needs. He's at the mental level, you
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begin to see thought developing and human beings.
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Begin to think about well why am I here?
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What is the universe about how to things work?
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The reality is it's like a seed of a tree.
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If you see the seed of a tree, it's a material thing.
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Nobody knows that encoded inside that seed.
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Is a big tree, right plant it, and give it the right
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conditions, the tree comes out of it.
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The world is pretty much the seed of development of the
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consciousness of the universe. You can say.
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And so we see first with the tree, some Roots appear, a
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couple of leaves appear, and then you get, then you get
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branches and you get eventually, the flowers and the fruits and
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the process of reproduction, the same thing happens with the
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plan. And that evolution of
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Consciousness. So we've seen the vital level
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come out. We've seen the lower mental
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level come out. We've seen flashes of a higher
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level of mentality, come out and some people over time have had
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experiences, spiritual experiences what they make all
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religious or Vision Quest experiences that show them, that
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there is another further reality. on what we can do with
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mental conceptualization and that is the first indication
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that another level of Consciousness is out there,
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waiting and striving to evolve and develop on the planet and it
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is a level that totally transforms the way we experience
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look at and respond to The issues of life.
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All right, that's interesting. I'm just going to thinking
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through the steps and where we are right now.
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So at this point, a smaller much smaller percentage of the
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population and I would argue that probably only last few
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thousand years of mankind have developed to this next level or
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are just beginning to develop this next level of
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consciousness. And from what you're saying is
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the expectations are that they'll be even more levels of
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consciousness that men will create and striped you.
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So, we're still at a point where perhaps we don't even know what
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our limits in terms of developing this Consciousness
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art, is that would that be an accurate view?
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Absolutely. That is what we're seeing here.
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Is that even in humanity, we have people who manifest some of
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the higher powers of the mind and we have some who don't who
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are living more or less a purely vital life, right?
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Maybe for reasons of opportunity or educational background or the
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stresses of just trying to survive in a harsh world because
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we found that people all over the world, when given
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opportunities have the capacity to develop their mental Powers.
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So it's not a matter. Or of one group or person is
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better than another but a lot of it is where they are, what they
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have to deal with, how they're given evolutionary
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opportunities, but then we see at the same time, not just these
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levels within mentality. But we see some people following
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a spiritual path. Following a deeper religious
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path as they are called too. Find out more to understand why
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they're here, what their life is about and how they can
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participate in that higher purpose.
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Huh? Okay, so I get it, would you
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would you say that people that are striving for those types of
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things? Have a better understanding of
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why we're here. I'm kind of a bigger world view
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are geared. More towards are moving more
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towards manifesting these higher levels of consciousness.
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Go to some degree. I would say that all of us who
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try to live a spiritual or religious life, or for higher
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things, have different levels of where we are in that realization
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and some have more understanding, some have less.
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Some like me have to spend 40 years studying one book to try
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and figure out what that book is about.
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You know, it's really it's really something.
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That is never-ending. We have stages of our growth and
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development and I can say that I feel like I've learned a lot in
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40 years to the point where I can say that I really don't know
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very much. There's a lot more to go.
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You know there's an old saying that the more you know the more
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you know that you don't know Well I would agree with that.
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You more learning about the stuff you don't know.
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So one of the things we want to focus on today was this concept
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is an existential crisis. What can we do about it?
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You know we haven't had the tools and have it haven't been
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able to kind of fix things, the problems are still there in
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there. In there worsening it can be
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argued that their worsening. What can you Manatee?
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What can you Manatee do to seek a solution for the kind of this
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this crisis of survival almost and And so, two broad questions.
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What can you manage to do? And then what could we, or
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should we as individuals be doing and we'll start with that?
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Let's start with that. Okay?
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Well, first, I was always impressed by a particular
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statement of Sri aurobindo is which I'll share with you, and
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that is to hope for a true change of human life without a
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change of human nature. Is an irrational and unspiritual
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proposition. And if we think about that for a
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moment, okay, we want to put a Band-Aid over all these
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problems. We have, we have plastic in the
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ocean, the solution, as well. Let's just clean up the plastic,
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or made me stop using straws or something that isn't solving the
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essential problem. We're still seeing the world as
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Individual fragments interacting with and fighting over the
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resources, and the opportunities of the planet.
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And we see ourselves as individual separate actors on a
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stage. In a hostile World, basically
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that Viewpoint is essentially a vital and mental viewpoint.
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A change of consciousness. A leads to a change of human
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nature and the essential. Change of Consciousness can be
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illustrated by back a few thousand years ago.
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Virtually all of humanity said that the sun revolves around the
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earth. The earth was the center of the
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universe, right? And everything was there for the
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Earth's benefit and then Along Came.
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Individuals and Science and they studied it and they said, well,
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actually the Earth revolves around the sun and it turns and
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that's what creates the phenomenon that we see
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differently. So if we apply that same logic
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to how we live in the world and the Consciousness we use, we say
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that the individual human being you and I are not the center of
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the universe. It's all not here just for our
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Vital and physical satisfaction, so when we see the image from
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the space station of planet Earth, And we see that it's one
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unified whole and not a bunch of different countries fighting
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with each other. Over resources, we begin to see
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the shift in Consciousness, that is both coming and necessary for
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us to change the way we relate to the problems.
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We are facing. We begin to see that we are part
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of a Unity. That has a larger purpose in the
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universe. Our Earth is part of a solar
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system with solar system. Is part of the Milky Way galaxy.
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The Galaxy is one of many galaxies and these many galaxies
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are part of a universe and some scientists, nowadays will tell
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you there are multiple universes.
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Is that all there so that we can enjoy our pina coladas on the
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beach in the evening. I don't think so.
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You see what I mean? Yes, so the essential change of
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Consciousness is to shift from An understanding of
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fragmentation and division to a vision and an actual experience
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of unity of all humanity and all the beings on the planet, you
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know, we could not survive without the trees on this
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planet. Even though we're cutting them
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down and burning as fast as we can.
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Because we are symbiotic to them.
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Think about that for a long time.
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We don't think about that. We think of trees as a resource
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ready, choose to be cut down to be utilized destroyed to make
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room for something else, but they create the oxygen that we
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need by breathing in the carbon dioxide that we excrete.
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So we and the trees are one symbiotic.
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Being you could say and trees means all the plant life,
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basically, essentially we can't live without them.
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They can't live without us. So why don't we recognize that?
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Why can't we live in that understanding of unity?
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When that starts to happen? Because I'm now going to answer
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your question. Okay?
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When that starts to happen, both on the global level and on the
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individual level, it changes our entire relationship to each
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other. And to the way we look upon the
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planet and suddenly, we realized that the other people on the
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planet are not our enemies. The planet is there to be shared
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All the people and all the beings and animals that are on
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the planet and to be honored and nourished and nurtured as our
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home, as part of our being from which we come.
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And at that point we're not fighting over how I can grab
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more but we're understanding how we can better apply the
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resources and not be wasteful and not be harmful planet to
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other people and our whole vision of how to create
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international relations. How to deal with our world, how
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to apply Science and Technology, all of that change.
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So then we come to the question. The second part of your question
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was well, what can I do as an individual?
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And there are several things these type of changes of
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awareness don't happen overnight generally or magically you know
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back in the 60s people thought they could take a pill and
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Achieve Cosmic Consciousness. Well okay they got an
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experiences. Something that said they were
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not stole fragmented individuals, but eventually they
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come down often now, deal with the fact that they still have to
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relate to their lives. Heard of it is to undertake the
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mental, and vital development, that we said was not fully
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developed earlier, so that we become more understanding and
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Appreciative. We begin to look for the unity
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and consciously relate to that Unity, wherever we can start to
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look at our opinions. Look at our desires.
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Look at our needs and try to make some adjustments to that.
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While recognizing that, that is not enough.
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It is eventually necessary for us to allow the next level of
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Consciousness, through Intuition or through whatever spiritual
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practices, One undertakes to begin to manifest within us.
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And that is a long lifetime process.
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The the sages, the rishi's, the spiritual, and religious leaders
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have all said that, know thyself, Be true to thyself,
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understand the Oneness of humanity.
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Those are words until we begin to actually practice them.
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And you start where you are, you know, they say that one, little
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Ripple can change the universe the butterfly effect.
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Well, what if a thousand people start trying to see the world
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from this different Viewpoint become receptive?
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Of to it undertake their own spiritual practices.
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And, and let me say this, it has nothing to do with a specific
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religion, specific philosophy, or specific practice, whatever
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people are doing to evolve, and develop themselves, is a
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positive Pursuit, and they should follow it and carry it
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out. We're not in opposition with
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each other as to whether we are believers in Buddha or Christ or
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Mohammed, or Krishna, or whomever or philosophers such as
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Plato or dink card. It doesn't matter.
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What matters is that we actually try to live that and Be
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receptive to new thoughts, new feelings, and new Inspirations,
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as they come. And what we see when that
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happens, the spiritual experience is described by the
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leaders. Of the world over centuries who
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have had these experiences. They tell you you begin to
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experience a force within you descending from above your mind,
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into your body and changing the way you react to things because
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it's not that we Separate fragmented individuals have to
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do this. We that's still the old mental
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Viewpoint, right? We need to allow the evolution
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that manifested matter life and mind to manifest the next level
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within the framework of who we are as human beings.
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And so we have to become receptive and we have to Again,
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to trust the inspiration that comes from that perception of
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unity. So let me just mention a few
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things that I'm hearing and I just want to kind of reaffirm.
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So it seems to me that in order to take on some of these bigger
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existential challenges that were talking about that, not only
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does identity as a whole needs to develop this kind of a next
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level of Consciousness. But all individuals should focus
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in their own way, in their kind of their own, their own world
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and developing themselves spiritually.
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And to work in developing their own personal level of
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Consciousness or greater level of Consciousness, independently
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of where they are now, so, whatever, whatever level we're
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on now, people should look to kind of expand their awareness
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and by expanding their awareness.
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It sounds like a big part of this is understanding kind of
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the unity of the whole world of how everything fits together.
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And I think you're writing, one of the things that you said is
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we tend to think Our own little space and are, you know, we're
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doing our own little piece and we can just get our piece of the
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world and let's take what we can.
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But based on the interactions you're talking about this, just
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too many factors at play and we're all working together.
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It's kind of an interlocked system.
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So whether you might think that you're sitting there and
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isolated position and you just doing your own piece of the
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world, but in essence, we're all locked together.
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Is that is that an accurate assessment of some of your
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views? To a great degree.
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I would only say that I don't expect that every individual on
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the planet will get to the same place at the same time.
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That's not that's not a necessary Factor, you know
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there's a concept in logging called the t log.
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When they're cutting down trees and come into a river of to move
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them somewhere. They get blocked and an expert
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in logging. Can go and find the One log that
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when it's moved, allows the entire flow to take place,
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right? And so we have a key log that we
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need to understand in our lives. Mmm, that will allow this new
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Consciousness to pour forth. And so most of that is related
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to Simply our preconceived habits and Notions about what
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our life is that we've been indoctrinated to believe that we
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get bombarded with every day in the media.
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And it's really hard for any individual to get bombarded with
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that m. Still keep some sense of a
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larger purpose. So you know, people like for
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instance, his Holiness, the Dalai Lama will say, whatever
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the teachings are my teaching is love and compassion.
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And others will say well it's having gratitude.
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These are emotions and feelings that open the being and make us
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more human. Give us more relationship to one
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another more understanding, more appreciation.
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And really, at this stage, that's the key log.
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We need to move people away from Material gratification.
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presentation, as their purpose to appreciating, the Wonder the
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Beauty and the harmony of the world through compassion, love
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gratitude, and reaching out to others and Building Bridges
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rather than setting up walls and putting us behind the walls with
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Weaponry to Fight off. Everybody else what you just
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said was very powerful in that for me it's summed up a lot of
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what you're saying. And a lot of what we need to do
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is a people where you started out by saying, we need to move
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away from this occupation with materialism and consumerism and
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we need to make a guess a conscious effort to moving away
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from me. And that's it.
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That's a big change because I think of how the world runs and
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it's driven part of the challenge you talking about
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Marshall. Sizing in the message, we're
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getting, it's driven by the materialism consumerism, so it's
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almost looking at and saying, all right, we got to stop at
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least for us as individuals and we need to open ourselves up to
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these. These other ways of thinking,
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Yes, you do. SRI aurobindo at one point said
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that we are satiated, but not satisfied with the material
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benefits that ends in the world. People are not happy.
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They are alienated cynical frustrated, and angry, yet.
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At the same time, they've got all these material things and
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all these Recreations and all the Is it enticements and
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excitements? The reality is we feel less our
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humanity and our common humanity and less Goodwill.
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The more we isolate ourselves into this satiation.
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Yes. So we really need to understand
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that our fulfillment and benefiting the world through a
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more human. Response to It.
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Go together. All right, on a practical level
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and you've covered some of these but maybe you can reinforce
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them. What can we do?
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Tend to participate in this change.
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So on a practical level. So you mentioned learning and
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following a spiritual path, whether it be teaching some
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Dalai Lama, you mentioned different religious teaching,
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Espero teaching. What else can we do to?
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Kind of participate as individuals and bring about this
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change, both in ourselves and in humanity, well, I think that
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just by starting the thought process, And then trying to
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implement it in daily life. People will begin to notice a
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lot of different things of, I'll give you an example.
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There are many people who are deathly afraid of bees.
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Okay, sure. And they see a bee in the first
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thing they want to do is kill it.
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And they're not thinking about the fact that bees are essential
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to providing the food that they eat and they don't need to be
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fearful of bees. They need to understand the role
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of bees play. Take that very simple example
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and say you have a fearful individual. and that individual
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begins to reflect upon the Oneness of everything and says,
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well, Okay, I'm I just had a fearful reaction to a bee.
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Why am I reacting that way? And, you know, how can I deal
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with that in a different way? Begin to reflect on all the
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positive, things the bees do, and then they begin to observe
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them and see that they're really interested in the flowers.
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They're not interested in coming out and attacking people.
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Sure. And over time, that fear
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reaction, begins to subside, And they've created a new
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relationship to another being on the planet.
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Well, multiply that by every interaction, we have see massive
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amounts of opportunity for change.
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That's why SRI aurobindo calls, what we're talking about here.
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The adventure of Consciousness, we've explored outer space.
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We've explored Under the Sea, we've explored the tops of
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mountains and tree aurobindo says, It's time to explore Inner
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Space and have the adventure of Consciousness and it is an
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adventure because you have to face up to every issue, someone
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cuts you off on the road and you're angry with them.
37:48
You're not understanding, they're trying to get a sick
37:51
person to the hospital and they're doing what they need to
37:55
do and you're expressing anger. Well examine that and find out.
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Why is it I'm reacting and how can I look at it?
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Differently. I can have compassion towards
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that being and not let them live rent-free in my head as someone
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has said. Yes, heard that before.
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Exactly. I like this concept, the
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adventure of Consciousness. There's a couple things.
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You said, I like that a lot. I also like the fact that we're
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kind of fighting to be satiated but most people aren't
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satisfied. That's an interesting.
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It's an interesting concept and one of the things I hear a lot
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about especially in the business world, but it's all over that
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people are are not engage their kind of diss engaged in their
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world and we need to re-engage and these are, some of the ways
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is talking about to kind of re engage ourselves.
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So, I want to take a minute over here.
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Obviously, you talked a lot about I've been de.
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Can you just share, website? What's the best way to find
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resources? More learning, more tools.
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Would where do people go? Sure well, we have a page called
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aurobindo dotnet on the end and that landing page will give some
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introductions will introduce people to some of the books that
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he's written or some of the introductions about three
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aurobindo and his work. I think that's a pretty good
39:28
place to start. I should mention.
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SRI aurobindo was not. Stood in starting a new cult
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religion, following or anything else.
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His stated purpose was to support the evolution of
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Consciousness on the planet. And each individual needs to
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find their way through their, his writings are meant to assist
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you, in whatever your path is. He's not looking for someone
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flying the aurobindo flag, right?
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And go The war with somebody else on the contrary, you know,
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if you're a Christian or a Buddhist or a Hindu, or a Jane
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or an atheist, whatever you can participate in this evolution of
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Consciousness and his insights, may be useful to that process,
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all right? And I'm going to spell that out
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for folks who didn't aren't looking at a link.
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It's our been do dotnet. It's a uro Be IND, O Hara been
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do dotnet. All right.
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I just want to take a couple of minutes right now to give you a
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chance to kind of sum up any final message for our listeners.
40:44
Today, things you haven't covered or any final message.
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What what people should do at this point?
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Well, I'll give you another citation from Sri aurobindo here
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that I think is Salient, the most vital issue of the age is
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whether the future progress of humanity, is to be governed by
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the modern economic and materialistic mind of the west
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or by a nobler pragmatism, guided uplifted and enlightened
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by spiritual culture and knowledge.
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And I think that sums it up. All right, thank you very much
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for joining us today. I appreciate you shared a lot of
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wisdom. Some your own wisdom and wisdom
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from three are abundant everybody.
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I really thank you for joining us and I want to thank everybody
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for listening today and I want to implore folks live, a great
41:41
successful life, thanks for being part of self.
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to everybody soon. Thanks David.
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You're welcome.