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Integrity Over Shortcuts: The Ethics of Helping | Episode 454 · Voices for Voices®

• 0:02
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Hi everyone, it's Justin here, Voices for Voices.
• 0:05
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Thank you so much for joining us on another episode of the Voices for Voices TV show and podcast.
• 0:13
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It is uh it's a pleasure uh to be with you, whether you're watching, whether you're listening, whether you're in the United States or abroad in a uh another uh country, territory, province.
• 0:32
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Thank you.
• 0:33
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh you're what makes us go, what gives us the energy to put shows together, to do what we do to help people in need.
• 0:43
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And uh without you, we couldn't do this.
• 0:46
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So if you can give us a big thumbs up, like, follow, subscribe, share, all those things are free to do, and it helps us um towards our ultimate goal of helping at least three billion people over the course of my lifetime and beyond, and to reach over 300 countries, territories, provinces, and over 3,000 cities across the world.
• 1:18
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Currently, we're at 1,100 and some change on the cities of who we've reached so far, and countrywide we are over 100 and 110 uh countries, territories, provinces that uh we have reached and we are helping people.
• 1:42
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Um, and that's what we set out to do from the beginning, and we're we're just continuing with that motto, that mantra.
• 1:50
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Um as basic as it is, uh, we we like to really focus on mental health, trauma, and recovery.
• 2:04
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That's how I built this organization.
• 2:06
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh, and our our shows uh reflect just that we talk about culture and little about politics.
• 2:16
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: This is for everyone, doesn't matter what side of the aisle who you voted for, it doesn't matter.
• 2:26
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I don't care who you voted for.
• 2:28
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh we've had individuals that we've had on as guests on both sides of the aisle.
• 2:37
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So uh it doesn't bother us.
• 2:41
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And we're about something bigger than just a political party.
• 2:47
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh we're not alienating a percentage or anything like that of of the country or uh of the of the world.
• 2:59
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Um if you're able to, if you could reach out to 25 or maybe 50 uh contacts in your in your phone, share with them voices for voices, TV show and podcast, that would greatly help us uh continue towards our goal.
• 3:18
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And that goal is only what it is because of your demand, you're watching, you're listening, uh you're interacting with us, and that just shows us that we're doing something right.
• 3:37
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We've had a huge influx of individuals uh that are reaching out to be a guest on our show, and so we were just honored and grateful and thankful to have that because at the beginning of the show, you know, kind of at the outset, once we decided that we're gonna do voices for voices TV show and podcast, uh we were doing a lot of reaching out, and we still do reach out, uh, but we have we don't have to reach out as much because the notoriety of voices for voices in the show, the organization is such that again, individuals are reaching out, and so we we continue to ask if you're interested in being a guest on our show, please do reach out uh to us.
• 4:48
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Um the only thing we really look for, which might be a uh uh a non-qualifier, is if there's an agenda you know behind that being the guests of like okay, we're well, we're gonna talk about this and then be on the show, and then all of a sudden it's something totally different.
• 5:16
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So uh when that happens, we just don't air the show.
• 5:23
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That just it's as easy as that.
• 5:25
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We don't put the we don't air those shows, and uh it comes down to integrity, ethics all across the board.
• 5:38
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh just like there's quality, integrity, and ethics and and jobs and careers.
• 5:48
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Um I hammer home ethics and the classes that I teach to uh college, uh undergrad, graduate, in person, remote.
• 6:05
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I built courses from the ground up, and uh it's just it's just amazing how some organizations they and some people the ethics have really gone out the window, and it's uh very unfortunate.
• 6:29
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We know nobody is perfect, so I'm not over here preaching one way or the other.
• 6:40
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: All I'm saying is you gotta have some kind of ethics, you gotta have some kind of moral backing in what you do.
• 6:51
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And if what you do is something that you know I I've heard doesn't pass the sniff test, or uh you know, like, okay, something about this, whatever this is, just doesn't feel right.
• 7:12
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Then what do we do?
• 7:14
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Well, we do research, and I know people don't want to do research, right?
• 7:22
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We want we want somebody to tell us, we want answers right now.
• 7:26
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We don't again, we want people to tell us the answers and want other people to do the work, but sometimes, depending on what it is, if it's something that's high stakes, high profile, uh, I don't know about you, but I I I'd want to be the person uh along with other persons that have, you know, what they say, skin in the game, meaning that whatever outcome comes, that the outcome is gonna affect the individuals that are making those decisions.
• 8:08
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So I've learned throughout the years that when it comes to ethics and integrity and a lot of other areas that it's nice to lighten the workload, helps us feel better, helps us lower stress.
• 8:29
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But there's just some things that we just have to do ourselves, and it might not be a popular decision, it may not be something that people would look at and go, oh my gosh, I can't believe they did this or they did that.
• 8:53
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Well, with our organization, with integrity and ethics and uh being what it is, we know nobody's perfect.
• 9:06
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And we've probably slipped a time or two or more.
• 9:12
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But it's our show, so I I'd remind you that if we do, if I do slip, ethically, the way I the way I'm notified is nobody or very little people will watch or listen to a particular episode.
• 9:38
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Right?
• 9:40
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so the number it's it's all in the numbers and the analytics.
• 9:45
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Now, when we come out and we come out strong on a topic or in an area, and we do something that ethically people will nod their head like, oh yeah, that of course, of course we would do that.
• 10:07
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But and there's always a but, right?
• 10:12
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But when it comes down, when it comes down to making that decision, some people will back off and go, well, I I don't want to do that.
• 10:28
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I know it's wrong, I know it's not right, I know you know this could get negative press.
• 10:36
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So I'm just gonna go forward with, you know, they follow the sheep, follow like everybody else, almost everybody else.
• 10:49
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So when we get involved in topics and areas that that we talk about and share and events and experiences and in our guests experiences and their stories, then when we get involved, we we look things up, we have to be comfortable in that again.
• 11:19
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Doesn't mean we're perfect.
• 11:21
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So you know somebody reached out and was like, who gives so we've had a prior guest on before, who gives this particular guest the ability to to do this thing, and this thing is to tell their own story.
• 11:43
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So when they say, like, who did you get approval from?
• 11:47
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Well, if I'm telling my own story, I don't need to get approval from anyone because I'm telling my story, and so that message was interesting.
• 12:05
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We appreciate the feedback, we really do.
• 12:09
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You know, we read through the message, and uh so it's it's interesting.
• 12:17
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We shouldn't have to write, we talked about how hard life is to live in general.
• 12:27
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We don't need people going, well, who who did you get approval from to tell your story on a show?
• 12:40
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Well, if I go on a show and I'm asked to tell my story, you know who gives the approval?
• 12:52
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I give the approval.
• 12:54
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: If that host doesn't want to air the show, which has happened a couple of times, where I don't know.
• 13:01
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Show's just never been aired.
• 13:04
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I'm cool with that, that's fine.
• 13:06
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I remember though.
• 13:09
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I remember.
• 13:11
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So if somebody wants to, you know, play that tit for tat.
• 13:17
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: They're like, I'm gonna do this, and then and then you're gonna do that.
• 13:23
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Well, we have every right to do that.
• 13:27
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That's called the First Amendment.
• 13:29
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I might not like something you have to say, you might not like something I'm to say, you might not like something one of our guests has to say, I might not like something that one of your guests has has to stay, has to say.
• 13:46
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But you know what?
• 13:49
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Who cares?
• 13:50
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Life's too short then the to hold these types of grudges.
• 13:58
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You know, for a long time, that's what I would do.
• 14:01
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I would hold these grudges and they'd be in my mind.
• 14:05
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And it was like my mind was like a humongous library of all the things that I felt that I was wronged, or things that I could have done better, and I wasn't talking about them, and so this is where that mental health comes in.
• 14:29
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So ethically, for mental health for me, it's caused me to be more ethical than I had before.
• 14:43
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I don't know that I don't know why.
• 14:48
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I think it's because potentially that I just started not caring as much what others thought about me and what I do and and and endowing things like voices voices for voices.
• 15:17
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Voices for voices was you know at the outset.
• 15:23
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I don't want to say it wasn't popular.
• 15:29
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But there were a lot of people that were like, yeah, way to go.
• 15:37
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Doing such great things.
• 15:41
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But when it came time to volunteer and to do uh to do work ghosts ghosts, can't get a hold of them and then the whole trust thing that's been one of my big things mental health-wise is I have a trust problem, or I've had one.
• 16:12
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I have less of one now because that comes with the not caring as much about what other people think and go, okay, that's cool.
• 16:32
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You you got your your opinion, I got mine.
• 16:36
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That's fine.
• 16:37
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Turn to channel if you don't want to.
• 16:40
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I don't care.
• 16:42
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I'd rather you find something that is interesting to you uh and is informative, and if you don't feel that our show is, that's fine.
• 16:51
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It really is.
• 16:53
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Don't spend your life and your time arguing about some something, some show.
• 17:06
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Just find something else.
• 17:10
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And then just do it.
• 17:12
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You don't have to tell anybody like oh I'm doing it because of this and this and this.
• 17:18
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I don't I don't I don't mind it as much as I used to.
• 17:27
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so while the the load of the work is mostly on my shoulders, I wouldn't have it any other way.
• 17:42
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: See, when you can when when you start something from the beginning that you really believe in.
• 17:52
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Again, if it just helps one person, it's one less person that has to go through.
• 18:03
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Anything.
• 18:10
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Talk about, you know, somebody on the edge and contemplating ending their life.
• 18:19
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Help that one person.
• 18:22
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You can't tell me that we're not helping people.
• 18:29
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And I know we're helping a lot more each and every day, each and every episode, it's it's adding and multiplying minute by minute, hour by hour, day by day, month by month, year by year.
• 18:51
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Folks, we have over 450 episodes.
• 18:56
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: When I started out on this journey, voices for voices, I had no idea how many episodes we would have.
• 19:09
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I just got started.
• 19:12
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And then it made me feel good to be able to share my story.
• 19:21
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Maybe it can't maybe it clicks with you, maybe it doesn't.
• 19:24
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Maybe you know somebody that it it might click with.
• 19:28
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And again, one.
• 19:34
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It's a song by Creed, the band Creed.
• 19:40
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I think even Metallica might have one named One.
• 19:45
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Have a song named One.
• 19:49
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Sorry.
• 19:50
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But it's all about just one, and that's empowering to me to help one person.
• 20:04
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And we've talked about it before.
• 20:07
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We're not just helping the one person, we're helping the one person and their friends and their families and their loved ones, and uh their, you know, if they they play a sport, or if they're on the drama team, or they're in a play, or whether they're in a band, or whatever that may be, helping at one turns into helping maybe fifty people.
• 20:40
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So you can't tell me that oh, he's talking about helping one person, that's nothing.
• 20:50
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That's not changing the world.
• 20:52
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Oh yes, it is.
• 20:54
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Oh yes, it is.
• 21:00
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And we are.
• 21:02
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You may not like it, you may not be interested, that's fine.
• 21:07
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We can agree to disagree.
• 21:10
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Those are actually the most constructive conversations that I've had around the organization and what we do and and how we're helping and and what we share.
• 21:24
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We're just we're transparent.
• 21:27
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You don't get no BS with us.
• 21:30
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We just tell it like it is.
• 21:34
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And it's because of you.
• 21:39
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Thank you for being with us on this ride.
• 21:43
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We wouldn't have a show.
• 21:48
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We wouldn't have a re I wouldn't have a reason to put a show together if the demand wasn't there.
• 21:56
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So thank you for being a part of Voices for Voices.
• 22:06
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Even if you just tuned in for a millisecond or two, and you remember that logo, and when you see it somewhere else, it connects.
• 22:20
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You're gonna see the logo.
• 22:25
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You're gonna see the logo.
• 22:28
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You're gonna see the logo.
• 22:30
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Maybe in some unsuspect unsuspecting ways.
• 22:37
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And I go, oh wow.
• 22:44
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: They're doing what?
• 22:48
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We're just helping people.
• 22:54
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We don't have another prerogative.
• 22:57
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We want people to feel better about themselves, feel better about what they do.
• 23:04
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Know that they're not alone.
• 23:07
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Lower that stigma meter.
• 23:10
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Let's just help one another.
• 23:19
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We see somebody that needs help.
• 23:24
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Let's not be a bystander.
• 23:26
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Let's be an upstander.
• 23:29
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Like one of our previous guests.
• 23:32
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So greatly mentioned.
• 23:38
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We can do this, people.
• 23:44
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We can do this.
• 23:45
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We're already doing it.
• 23:48
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That's I think the big thing.
• 23:51
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We're already doing it.
• 23:54
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So let's just continue.
• 23:55
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Let's just continue the helping.
• 23:58
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Continue tuning in.
• 24:00
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: If you're able to give us the thumbs up, like, follow, subscribe, share, reach out to 25 or 50 contacts in your phone and let them know about voices for voices.
• 24:13
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Have them subscribe, like, follow, share, all those things too.
• 24:19
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And then have them share.
• 24:21
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We can do this.
• 24:23
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And we're already doing this.
• 24:26
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We're already doing this.
• 24:31
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I in my wildest dreams, reaching and helping in one thousand cities in over one hundred countries across the world.
• 24:45
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I know we have goals, but when it actually happens, it's like, whoa crap.
• 24:53
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We're not just helping people in the United States, not just Canada, not just Mexico.
• 24:59
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We head over the pond, over the water, the oceans.
• 25:06
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It's just incredible.
• 25:09
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And we can't we can't do it without you.
• 25:14
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We are a nonprofit charity, a 501c3, too.
• 25:21
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So we're doing this on zero, literally zero funds.
• 25:28
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So come with us.
• 25:34
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Bring your friends, bring your family, bring your colleagues, bring your loved ones, bring your classmates, bring your bring your teachers, bring your superintendents, bring, bring everybody.
• 25:51
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Voices for Voices is for everybody.
• 25:55
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We hope you have a great day.
• 26:01
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And thank you for tuning in to this episode of the Voices for Voices TV show and podcast.
• 26:09
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I've been your host, founder of Voices for Voices, Justin Alan Hayes.
• 26:15
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Let's celebrate.
• 26:17
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Let's celebrate, let's celebrate the voices of everybody across the world.
• 26:23
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And let's be a voice for ourselves and somebody in need.
• 26:32
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We'll see you next time, everybody.