Latest / The Scene Projects / Dustin Young on Resilience, Entrepreneurship, and Life Balance
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- 0:03Welcome in to another exciting episode of Real Biz.
- 0:06I am your host, Bubba Starts, and with me today is the owner and operator, founder of Raven's
- 0:12CFO, Dustin Young.
- 0:14Dustin, welcome to the show.
- 0:15Hey, Bubba.
- 0:16How's going?
- 0:17It's going well, man.
- 0:18I I appreciate you taking some time for me today.
- 0:20We're gonna talk about your business, but you've also got an inspiring story to share.
- 0:25Before we get into that, I I want you to give us a little bit of your backstory, and then
- 0:29we're gonna pick it up, right around the time of your diagnosis and really get into the weeds
- 0:34there.
- 0:35So, the floor is yours, sir.
- 0:37K.
- 0:38Yeah.
- 0:38I'm, born and raised in Texas.
- 0:41I like to say that.
- 0:41I've actually been in Arizona most of my life, but, I was in Texas until I was junior high,
- 0:48high school age.
- 0:50You know, got out of high school and went to work for for my family in construction and real
- 0:54estate and did that for seven or eight years.
- 0:58Kind of a a little bit of a wild story, like you said.
- 1:04I just got to this point, you know, in in my career there.
- 1:07I was I was managing a lot.
- 1:09You know, I was VP of finance, so I was managing the whole the whole accounting and
- 1:13finance side of things.
- 1:14I was also over, IT and some marketing and doing a little bit in the field as well.
- 1:19So I've got a lot of a lot of different experience from that.
- 1:24But I got to this point where, you know, just wasn't feeling anymore.
- 1:30Wasn't super happy.
- 1:31I didn't feel like I was fulfilled.
- 1:33And so, you know, I sat down at dinner with my brother and was like, hey.
- 1:38I think I gotta be done here.
- 1:40And, this this is in July 2024 or or the June 2024.
- 1:46Just to give you some some perspective, the how the timeline works here is kinda nuts.
- 1:54So, you know, basically quit my job, kinda get fired at the same time.
- 1:58He's like, hey.
- 1:58If you're not happy, then get the heck out of here.
- 2:00You know?
- 2:00And I'm like, alright.
- 2:01I guess that's what's happening.
- 2:03And so fast forward a couple of days.
- 2:05It's like my last day in the office, and I had been having these migraines.
- 2:11Alright?
- 2:12Having migraines for a couple of months.
- 2:14I'd gone to an emergency room.
- 2:15They told me just take some ibuprofen.
- 2:17I was like, okay.
- 2:18That's kinda bull crap, but whatever.
- 2:21Finally get to a doctor that orders an MRI for me.
- 2:24I get the MRI.
- 2:28And while I'm in the tube, the technician is like, hey.
- 2:33Just stay there for a minute.
- 2:36We're done with the scan, but I gotta call your doctor.
- 2:38We're seeing something.
- 2:39I'm like, cool.
- 2:40That probably isn't a real good thing.
- 2:42But, honestly, my my mind is just pretty calm still.
- 2:45And so we they they take me out of the out of the tube.
- 2:50You know, I'm I'm face first for those that have never done, like, a a brain scan.
- 2:55You're in face first.
- 2:56Your head is kind of strapped to the table, so you really can't move at all.
- 3:00They call it the football helmet.
- 3:02And I get out and get on the phone with the doctor.
- 3:06Doctor's like, hey.
- 3:07You need to go straight to the emergency room right now.
- 3:09You're gonna have brain surgery.
- 3:11And I was like, excuse me?
- 3:15And, yeah, called my wife.
- 3:18You can imagine how that went.
- 3:20I actually called my brother who I was working for, you know, that I had just basically quit
- 3:26working for and said, hey.
- 3:28I need you to take me to the hospital right now.
- 3:29You know, we're we were super close.
- 3:31He was kind of you know, he's my big bro.
- 3:35And, yeah, I I ended up not actually having surgery that day.
- 3:40I had a hard time finding the right surgeon.
- 3:42Had had brain surgery two weeks later, for a baseball sized tumor, right here in my right
- 3:48frontal lobe.
- 3:49You can see the scar if you're watching this.
- 3:50But so that's that's a lot of detail.
- 3:55Couple weeks after surgery, I get diagnosed with grade four terminal brain cancer, called
- 4:02glioblastoma.
- 4:03My specific one is called astrocytoma grade four.
- 4:07They're, essentially the same because of the severity.
- 4:12And went straight into chemo and radiation for six weeks every day.
- 4:20I had to drive into a clinic.
- 4:23It's, yeah.
- 4:25That was kind of intense.
- 4:26I don't know.
- 4:27Most people aren't familiar with the radiation process when it involves the brain, but they
- 4:32make this mask that it's actually molded to your face.
- 4:35Okay?
- 4:35And so they take this boiling hot plastic material, mold it over your face, which is not
- 4:42very comfortable, and they attach that to a table for about twenty, thirty minutes while it
- 4:49dries.
- 4:50And that's how they create the mask for you to use every day.
- 4:53And so I go in every day, Monday through Friday for radiation, and they they take that mask.
- 5:00They it's it gets, like, buttoned onto the table.
- 5:04You can't really swallow.
- 5:06You can't talk.
- 5:07You can't move at all.
- 5:09And then they just have this X-ray looking machine that kind of, you know, moves around
- 5:16your head every day.
- 5:17It was pretty difficult for the first couple of weeks and then, you know, got got used to it
- 5:23after that.
- 5:23So I was pretty lucky.
- 5:24But, yeah, fast forward to now, I I started my own business.
- 5:31We had a GoFundMe and everything that we had to live live off of for for months.
- 5:35You know?
- 5:35We we're still we're still young kids.
- 5:38I I probably didn't mention that I had a I think I had a I think he was six months old, my
- 5:43son, when when I got diagnosed.
- 5:45He was six or seven months old, and he's now two.
- 5:50We have made it, you know, in terms of I'm alive.
- 5:55We are together.
- 5:57We are doing our best.
- 5:58We are traveling.
- 5:58We're trying to have fun and make the most of our time.
- 6:01And, now I I specifically work with with construction companies, because that's my
- 6:08background and that's what I know.
- 6:10And so I'm I'm pretty good at being able to take accounting and take operations and align
- 6:16those two things and make them work together in a way that actually makes sense.
- 6:20Most most guys in construction just like like you were saying, Bubba, earlier, you were
- 6:25telling me about, you're you're you're good at what you do.
- 6:28Right?
- 6:29You know, you're you're good with the music and the media, but when it comes to accounting,
- 6:33you're like, screw this.
- 6:36And, construction guys are the same.
- 6:38You know?
- 6:39Every everyone's good at what they know, but the second you add on, like, oh, crap.
- 6:42The business aspect, you know, you've got you've got freaking accounting.
- 6:47You've got marketing.
- 6:48You've got legal crap to deal with.
- 6:50You've got technology.
- 6:51You know?
- 6:52And then you start adding employees, and you got freaking HR to add in there.
- 6:56It's like, nah.
- 6:57I don't wanna do that.
- 6:59So I Yeah.
- 7:01What a what a journey, Dustin.
- 7:04It just it it's mind blowing, and I'm so happy that you are here and that we get to have this
- 7:10conversation.
- 7:12You know, for most people, starting a business is the scariest thing they've ever done,
- 7:18leaving their job and probably for you as well that it was the scariest thing you'd ever done
- 7:25until, you know, later that week.
- 7:27And then having to go through everything that you've been through emergency surgery, the
- 7:33chemo, and radiation on top of that.
- 7:36And, I feel like now that experience that you have and the story that you have to offer
- 7:42people, it it makes, like, everything that these owner operators that you're dealing with,
- 7:47it really puts it into perspective, like, what they're having to do.
- 7:51Because I know for, you know, myself and others that are business owners, it can be scary to
- 7:57kinda give up a little bit of control.
- 7:59You feel that you have to do everything.
- 8:02Even if you're not good at it, you feel like you just have, like, having a stranglehold on
- 8:07everything, and that is somehow giving up a little bit of control, you know, makes you less
- 8:13of a man or less of an operator.
- 8:15You know?
- 8:15And it's actually the opposite.
- 8:19Right?
- 8:19To to give up a little bit of control and to get a little bit of your time back actually can
- 8:25make you a much better and stronger person.
- 8:28Absolutely.
- 8:29Yeah.
- 8:30I mean, delegating sucks.
- 8:32It's so hard to do.
- 8:33But if you can figure it out, like, it's it's the key to to growth and scaling.
- 8:40What do you find, now in in your experience of actually working now for the last I would say
- 8:46probably the last year or less of having your business now going.
- 8:51Right?
- 8:51Like, clean bill of health was obviously the first the first thing after kind of, you know,
- 8:57having quit your job and working, you know, with your brother and family business.
- 9:01And I know that, you know, we talked, preshow that, you know, your father was in the
- 9:07construction trades and running this business.
- 9:09So, you know, really, it was you know, I don't know if it was a continuation of the family
- 9:13business and your dad's company with your brother or not, but what is the hardest thing
- 9:18in, you know, your experience dealing with operators that is kind of that barrier?
- 9:25What's like that first barrier with everyone to get over?
- 9:29I think what we just talked about, you know, your first hire.
- 9:33Like, trying to trust people to do what you know you're really good at, like, to have them
- 9:40do it for you is is so scary.
- 9:44You know, it's if if you're running an excavation or grading company, it's not as big
- 9:49of a deal.
- 9:49Right?
- 9:49Like, or a plumbing company, and you're just hiring a part time laborer.
- 9:52Okay.
- 9:53Whatever.
- 9:54But if you're gonna hire a a salesman, someone that's going to be talking to your customers
- 9:59for you, or if you're gonna be hiring an estimator, someone that's gonna be pricing and
- 10:04bidding and winning jobs for you, like, you're you're handing them a lot.
- 10:11And it those things really affect your business.
- 10:13Right?
- 10:14Like, one of your sales guys says something dumb to a customer and and, you know, that
- 10:22could really hurt your reputation or or your estimator bids a job completely wrong and end
- 10:27up losing a $100,000 on one job and it kind of sinks you for a little bit, like, that's a big
- 10:31deal.
- 10:32And those scenarios, I think, really just run through those guys' minds.
- 10:36Like, they don't wanna see that happen, but they also don't know how to mitigate those
- 10:43issues.
- 10:45What is the one thing that you are trying to help these, you know, these owners or CEOs or,
- 10:55you know, founders of companies mostly that you're working with?
- 10:59What is the one thing that you're trying to give to them?
- 11:04Honestly, a little more time at home and a little less stress.
- 11:12And that is, you know, that's from your lived experience having a father that was a founder
- 11:18and operator in his own right and very good, I think, at what he was doing and also maybe not
- 11:27being the best father that he could have been because he's just not committing time to his
- 11:32family.
- 11:34Yeah.
- 11:35I mean, it's it's a big thing for me.
- 11:37You know?
- 11:38I I was doing the same thing back when I was at my job, just grinding as much as I could and
- 11:45trying to make as much money as I could, and that kind of became the priority.
- 11:49You know?
- 11:52And that that was a thing in my family.
- 11:55You know?
- 11:56And it's not not even just my family.
- 11:58Like, I see it everywhere.
- 12:01People prioritize making money, having nice things, and and I guess that's okay, you know,
- 12:08for some.
- 12:08But for me, like, it all happened so fast, but I just went full one eighty.
- 12:13And I think there's a lot of other people that actually want that as well.
- 12:17They just don't really know how to get it.
- 12:21Did that shift in mentality for you, did it come before you left the job, or did that come
- 12:29with the perspective of your diagnosis and and subsequent treatment?
- 12:34It was starting to come before I quit.
- 12:37I realized that I was not finding fulfillment in what I was doing, and part of that was
- 12:45because it was taking me away from the things that I really loved, you know, being at home
- 12:50and and spending time with my family and making memories with them.
- 12:54And, yeah, like, it it started.
- 13:00But as soon as that diagnosis hit and I had surgery, it was just that was all I could think
- 13:06about.
- 13:08You know, there there there was nothing that was more important.
- 13:11So I I had no choice but to just figure that out.
- 13:17No.
- 13:17The the perspective gained from seeing the maybe not the light at the end of the tunnel,
- 13:23but realizing that you are headlong in the tunnel right now and fighting for your life in
- 13:29so many ways.
- 13:31Anyone who receives that cancer diagnosis or or any real, you know, major, you know, health
- 13:37diagnosis that that puts the end much closer than the beginning and that the perspective
- 13:44change is massive.
- 13:47And I know that that has to help you in your daily, you know, working with these these
- 13:54founders now, of going, look.
- 13:57I'm not just telling you these things.
- 13:58I have been there.
- 14:00I have I I am telling you that you're going to, in those moments, you're gonna wish that you
- 14:06spent more time at your kids' ball games or playing Barbies with your daughter or, you
- 14:11know, because you don't get that time back.
- 14:14There's always more money to be made.
- 14:16There there's always another, problem to solve in the world.
- 14:21But the problems at home, that maybe you can avoid and having been a child of a founder, I
- 14:28think, gives you a a unique perspective as well.
- 14:31But even that didn't stop you from running headlong into the same, you know, the same
- 14:39trouble.
- 14:39Right?
- 14:42Yeah.
- 14:44Like you said, it it it really is the only thing you can't give it.
- 14:48And and there's guys that will come to me that wanna work with me, but if they are the type
- 14:55that just prioritizes money over everything else, I typically don't work with them.
- 14:59You know?
- 14:59Because I've gotta be able to still find fulfillment in what I'm doing, like, as in
- 15:06helping them do that thing as well, if that makes sense.
- 15:10And so a lot of times, there's not alignment there.
- 15:14You know?
- 15:15These some some people just wanna go make millions and millions of dollars, and that's
- 15:19great.
- 15:19Go make all the money.
- 15:20You know?
- 15:20I'm gonna help you do that too.
- 15:23But I really want people that that have something that they care about that's greater
- 15:29than than the money, really, which sounds ridiculous coming from a finance guy.
- 15:33You know?
- 15:34You'd expect me to just be talking numbers here, but it's just not how it goes.
- 15:38You there's so many other things that are involved, and I actually think the relationship
- 15:44there if if things are going better at home, they're probably going better at work.
- 15:49You're probably making more money.
- 15:51But if you're making a bunch of money and you're not you know, your relationships at home
- 15:56aren't good, then I think it just falls apart a lot easier.
- 16:00And so I I try to keep you know, a lot of people say there's no balance, and I get that.
- 16:04Like, it is that is a tough thing.
- 16:06Like, I'm not saying that there's a perfect balance between home and work.
- 16:13But there is attention to be given to both.
- 16:18And I think there is a right amount of attention to be given to both.
- 16:21And you can overdo it in one area and underdo it in the other.
- 16:26So that's that's some of the things we try to figure out.
- 16:29You know, as as I'm working with these guys, it's actually where I start.
- 16:34Where do you wanna be in ten years?
- 16:35You know?
- 16:36How much time do wanna spend with your family in ten years so that we can set this business
- 16:40up now so you can still be doing that instead of instead of, oh, well, I wanna make
- 16:48$30,000,000 in ten years.
- 16:49I'm like, okay.
- 16:50Cool.
- 16:52How does everything else fit into that?
- 16:54You know, we we kinda reverse engineer.
- 16:58Yeah.
- 16:58You're you're almost more executive life coach than than, than finance guy at times.
- 17:07And I think for you working with newer founders, it's nice to build that foundation of
- 17:14that to say, look.
- 17:15It's very easy to come in, and you're gonna listen to all the business coaches that, you
- 17:21know, tell you to grind, grind, grind, and you have to be maniacal about the business and
- 17:29sell, sell, sell, and, you know, just like all the very stereotypical kind of, you know, sales
- 17:36and and marketing ploys that you can get.
- 17:39But very few people talk about the sacrifices that you're going to make in your family and
- 17:45personal life to get there.
- 17:47And I'm not saying that you gotta be out with your friends every weekend or that you need to
- 17:51be taking vacations with the kids, once a month, but you do need to prioritize that time
- 17:58even if it's down to a daily regimen of, you know, making sure that you are, you know,
- 18:03tucking the kids in at night.
- 18:05And those moments, while they may not be a huge part of your day, you have to realize how much
- 18:13it is a part of their day.
- 18:15And and and missing those moments that you're going to, you're going to miss those big parts
- 18:21of your kid's life.
- 18:22And maybe it's not birthday parties and and, you know, big championship ball games.
- 18:29You can miss a few of those things, But it's really those early years that you're spending
- 18:35and that time that you're spending.
- 18:37Maybe it's taking those fifteen minutes of your morning and prioritizing taking the kids to
- 18:42school and dropping them off or picking them up from school that become more important and
- 18:48having those nonnegotiables rather than a a dollar amount or, you know, business meeting
- 18:55that you're prioritizing over that.
- 18:58Absolutely.
- 18:58Yeah.
- 18:59I mean, I'm definitely not saying, you know, spend five hours a day with your kid and try
- 19:04and try and work a little bit and build a business.
- 19:07Like, that's not gonna work.
- 19:08Right?
- 19:08There is grind.
- 19:10Definitely have to grind to to get it to happen.
- 19:13And, yeah, you you hit the nail on the head, you know, even if it's just fifteen minutes.
- 19:19And those first few years of their lives are what's most important.
- 19:22I missed I missed basically the first year of my son's life, you know, from from working the
- 19:31first six or seven months to being down from from brain surgery for a little bit after that.
- 19:36You know?
- 19:38But even then, after brain surgery, I was at least home.
- 19:40Right?
- 19:41Like, I I was home.
- 19:42I could see him.
- 19:43I could hug him and and talk to him.
- 19:44And, but when I'm at work, I just can't.
- 19:49And so just fitting in a little bit of time.
- 19:54When when I was in when I was in high school, this is kind of a funny story, and my parents
- 20:01may listen to this, but I was I was actually known as the kid with no parents.
- 20:06And part of me took a little pride in that because I could just do whatever I wanted.
- 20:11You know?
- 20:11And that was I had a lot of fun as a kid.
- 20:14I never did anything really dumb or stupid.
- 20:16But at the same time, I don't actually want that for my kids.
- 20:22You know?
- 20:22And I I don't know if I'll be here for when they're that age or not.
- 20:27I was the doctors originally told me I'd I'd live for twelve to eighteen months.
- 20:31I actually just hit 18 months, like, three days ago.
- 20:34And I'm I feel great right now.
- 20:36So Yeah.
- 20:37You're beating the odds already, Dustin.
- 20:39I'm I'm beating it, but at the same time, like, we have no idea.
- 20:42Right?
- 20:44And so but whether whether it's me or someone else, whatever, not the point of the story, I
- 20:50just don't I don't want that for my kids.
- 20:52And if I could go back in time, I would try harder to have been there for the first year of
- 20:59my son's life because I think that's just something such an important bonding time to
- 21:04have with them even if they're not gonna be able to recall those memories down the road.
- 21:09No doubt that they mean something.
- 21:12And I know a lot of us think that, oh, well, you know, we have them for eighteen years.
- 21:17You really don't.
- 21:17You maybe have them for ten.
- 21:19You know, you maybe have them for twelve, 13, fourteen.
- 21:23By the time they're teenagers, and I'm dealing with that now because my boy just turned 13, is
- 21:28that, they kind of you know, they're not fully fledged, but they are to a lot of degree, like,
- 21:35who they're going to be moving forward.
- 21:38And those teenage years, they're going to desire more freedom, and they're not going to
- 21:43want you around.
- 21:44So, especially people with young children, carving out little bits of time for them.
- 21:50And my kid I mean, I I'm the last person to criticize someone for grinding.
- 21:54I I work twelve, eighteen hour days sometimes.
- 21:57Right?
- 21:57Yeah.
- 21:57I'm out in my studio a lot, but I carve out that, you know, ten minutes in the morning.
- 22:03We're very lucky that, you know, we live very close to our school, small town.
- 22:06I get to walk them to school, and I get to walk them home.
- 22:09Their mother works at the school, so we're very fortunate that we get to spend a lot of time.
- 22:14But that was I didn't get to do that while I was working at the factory.
- 22:18Right?
- 22:19Like, I wasn't getting to do I wasn't there when they went to school.
- 22:22I was already gone.
- 22:23And and and when they came home, they were already here as well.
- 22:27And it was it was something that I was missing.
- 22:31And it was worth taking the pay cut to build something on our own so that I could be
- 22:39available to do those things and maybe living on less for a few years while we did build it.
- 22:45Now there was also an, you know, supernatural confidence in me that, like, I was going to
- 22:50build this business into something.
- 22:52I I don't know many people that, you know, quit quit the guaranteed, income, to be a podcaster.
- 22:59I I always had a much larger much larger vision of what this podcast and this network and
- 23:04everything was.
- 23:06In a lot of ways, you know, Dustin, two years ago when I quit my job, I saw these
- 23:10conversations happening.
- 23:12Right?
- 23:12I was having conversations like this with people.
- 23:15They just weren't on camera.
- 23:16And and I've realized now after, you know, 500 plus interviews or whatever it is now, I've
- 23:23never kept track, because it doesn't really matter.
- 23:27It's the impact that these conversations have had on my life, on my, you know, guests' lives,
- 23:34and then subsequently on all the people that get to listen to these.
- 23:39And that to me and the impact that it's going to have on my children's lives because dad's
- 23:43around a little bit more.
- 23:44And when he's home, he's a lot more present.
- 23:47And when I'm spending that time, I'm with them, mentally and physically and emotionally instead
- 23:54of kinda being checked out.
- 23:56And I I think that's what's important.
- 23:58It's not necessarily always the amount of time, but it's how invested you are into that time
- 24:06that you're spending as well.
- 24:08Yeah.
- 24:09Quality over quantity, man.
- 24:11That same concept applies pretty much everywhere in life and and in business.
- 24:15You know?
- 24:18Get picky with your clients if if you can and if you want to.
- 24:21Right?
- 24:21Like, if that makes sense.
- 24:22If you're not in the volume game, then consider yourself lucky because you can weed out the the
- 24:28customers that that you don't wanna be spending time with, that you want don't wanna surround
- 24:34yourself with.
- 24:35Spend more quality time with your kids.
- 24:37Yeah.
- 24:37I mean and there are days where where I do the same thing.
- 24:41You know?
- 24:42I I can't say I have as much energy as I used to, but if I go work a twelve hour day right
- 24:48now, I come home and I'm I'm dead.
- 24:50You know?
- 24:50I'm drained.
- 24:51And so there's definitely days where I'm not spending quality time with them.
- 24:56And it's just something that I'm continually trying to to get better at.
- 24:59That's all we can ask for.
- 25:00Right?
- 25:03Dustin, what's the most important thing that you would like people to get out of, you know,
- 25:09this conversation, out of working with you?
- 25:11What's your most important piece of advice having lived through what you have and moving
- 25:17forward?
- 25:18You know, be this a a legacy.
- 25:20You know, you're on borrowed time essentially at this point.
- 25:24Right?
- 25:24What's one piece of advice that you'd either like to leave for not just our listeners, but
- 25:29maybe your children as they listen to this in the future?
- 25:32Yeah.
- 25:34Honestly, don't wait to make change.
- 25:38If there's change you know that needs to happen, just get it done.
- 25:44The longer you wait, you really just don't know what's gonna happen in the future.
- 25:49I I it's funny because I listened to a podcast years ago.
- 25:57I don't remember who it was.
- 25:59I don't remember the exact person they were talking about, but it was about a police
- 26:02officer that kept saying, you know, once I retire from from being a cop, I'm gonna take
- 26:09this vacation with my family.
- 26:11You know?
- 26:12You can guess how that story went.
- 26:14Cop retires, dies within, like, a week, never gets to take that vacation, never gets to do
- 26:19anything with his retirement because they just put it off.
- 26:24And that's that's my advice for for anyone listening, you know, be it people in in the
- 26:32music industry or in just business or wherever you are in life.
- 26:39If you know there's change that needs to be made, just don't don't wait to do it.
- 26:44Whatever's in the way, figure it out.
- 26:47Make it now.
- 26:48If you know you need to be spending more time with your kids, figure it out now.
- 26:53You don't know what could happen to them.
- 26:55You don't know what could happen to you.
- 26:58That's that's it.
- 27:01Dustin, where can people get ahold of you to work with you and, you know, follow your
- 27:06journey as well?
- 27:08And, I just I I really appreciative of your time today.
- 27:13So go ahead and share whatever you need to and plug the business, and and I'll let you get out
- 27:18of here.
- 27:18Yeah.
- 27:19My website, ravencfo.com.
- 27:22If you are a construction business owner doing about 3 to $40,000,000 in annual revenue and
- 27:30and, you know, might have some issues with cash flow or profitability, or just need additional
- 27:35help on the finance and ops side, check out my website, ravencfo.com.
- 27:40You can also you can connect with me on LinkedIn as well.
- 27:43Dustin Young on LinkedIn.
- 27:46Dustin, I'm so glad that we got to take some time today.
- 27:49I was completely moved by your story when we got to chat, you know, off camera.
- 27:55And I I thought it was important to, at the very least, to make a little archive, for your
- 28:01for your children in the event that you aren't here in the future.
- 28:05Now I hope that you are, and I hope that the clean bill of health, is coming your way one
- 28:11day.
- 28:11I I know that it's it's a daily battle, I'm sure.
- 28:15But I think that you're inspiring.
- 28:17I think that you can inspire not just business owners, but anyone who's listening that feels
- 28:23overwhelmed and and anxious about their own futures, I think you've done a lot and brought
- 28:29a lot of value, not just to them, but also to me as well.
- 28:32So thank you for taking some time to be on RealBiz today, and thank you for being part of
- 28:37the scene.
- 28:39Thanks, Bubba.
- 28:39So good to be here.
- 28:41Good to good to talk to the audience.
- 28:43And, you know, I'm not I just wanna leave one last little thing if that's okay.
- 28:48I'm no expert speaker.
- 28:50Everyone here probably knows that.
- 28:53But, hopefully, you know, the things that I can share, can at least be of of benefit regardless
- 28:59regardless of that.