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Mega Edition: What Did Other Inmates At MCC Have To Say About Jeffrey Epstein? (7/29/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: The millionaire Pedophiles death at Manhattan's Metropolitan Correctional Center on
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  Speaker 1: August tenth last year, was officially ruled as a suicide
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  Speaker 1: by hanging, despite murder conspiracy theories circulating widely online. Look again,
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  Speaker 1: I am more than willing to accept that this dude
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  Speaker 1: killed himself. But let's see the receipts. Why was the
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  Speaker 1: crime scene and that's what it is according to the jail.
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  Speaker 1: When someone dies in jail, a crime scene. Why was
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  Speaker 1: it the crime scene preserved? Where are all of the
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  Speaker 1: where's the video of the crime scene? Why were no
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  Speaker 1: body cams on? Why? Why? Why? And why? So until
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  Speaker 1: all of these questions are answered, people have a legitimate
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  Speaker 1: reason and a legitimate right to dig a little bit
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  Speaker 1: deeper to try and get to what really happened here. Nobody,
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  Speaker 1: certainly nobody on this podcast is just scratching the surface.
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  Speaker 1: We're doing deep dives. I'm talking Marianna Trench deep dive
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  Speaker 1: type shit. And so far, the official narrative does not
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  Speaker 1: pass the sniff test, But in interviews with Epstein's former
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  Speaker 1: inmates obtained by the Daily News, they reveal it was
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  Speaker 1: common knowledge in the prison that he was suicidal and
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  Speaker 1: cellmates warned him not to kill himself in their presence.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, why is Jeffrey Epstein around cellmates? Why
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  Speaker 1: does he? I mean, why does he have cell mates?
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  Speaker 1: Why is he around other inmates? Why isn't he absolutely safeguarded?
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  Speaker 1: Would you put el Chapo around other inmates? Hell? No,
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  Speaker 1: for their own safety and for his. With Epstein, it's
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  Speaker 1: mainly for his safety, right. I'm sure Epstein isn't throwing
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  Speaker 1: hands with a leader of the Latin Kings. I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein isn't picking up the phone and calling somebody
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  Speaker 1: who's gonna green light somebody else on the main line
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  Speaker 1: because he has that kind of reach. El Choppel, on
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  Speaker 1: the other hand, yeah, that shit might and no doubt
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  Speaker 1: about it. When I say Epstein shouldn't be around other inmates,
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  Speaker 1: that's because I didn't want him to get hurt. I
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  Speaker 1: wanted him to stand trial just like all of you.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted him to sit there across from his accusers
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  Speaker 1: and get stared down by them as they recounted what occurred,
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  Speaker 1: how he abused them, the different levels of pain it
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  Speaker 1: caused them. That's what I wanted, and the government failed.
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  Speaker 1: So even if Epstein did say. He ll say Epstein
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  Speaker 1: did kill himself, and the official narrative is true, did
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  Speaker 1: he really kill himself because the government was so damn negligent,
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  Speaker 1: how can you not toss a little bit of the
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  Speaker 1: responsibility on them no matter what at this point, So
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  Speaker 1: any way you chop it, the official narrative smells like
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  Speaker 1: doo doo. One prison inmate claimed that Epstein was saying
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  Speaker 1: he was going to kill himself because the government is
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  Speaker 1: trying to kill him anyway. Now, remember who we're dealing
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  Speaker 1: with here, Jeffrey Epstein very shrewd. We have lawyers who
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  Speaker 1: came out and said that he was not suicidal. Douglas
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  Speaker 1: Showan has said that, a couple of his other lawyers
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  Speaker 1: have said that, and Shuliac has said the same exact thing.
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  Speaker 1: Now we have inmates on the other side disputing that fact,
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  Speaker 1: saying Jeffrey Epstein was suicidal in fact. So I guess
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  Speaker 1: it basically comes down to folks, who do you believe more,
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  Speaker 1: Who is a more reliable source these inmates that were
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  Speaker 1: in there with Jeffrey Epstein, some of these lawyers and
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  Speaker 1: other people here was talking to, or are none of
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  Speaker 1: them reliable? And we're just never going to get to
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  Speaker 1: the bottom of what happened in that jail cell. Former
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  Speaker 1: inmates also revealed he was also subject to threats and
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  Speaker 1: extortion from fellow prisoners, and mistreatment from prison guards who
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  Speaker 1: made him sleep on the floor. Now that's bunk ass
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  Speaker 1: shit right there, and any prison guard engaging in demeaning
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  Speaker 1: behavior of an inmate should face severe, severe penalties. In
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  Speaker 1: my opinion, these aren't zoo animals, all right, these are
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  Speaker 1: human beings. They might be they might be criminals, and
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  Speaker 1: they might be the worst of society, but I mean,
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  Speaker 1: come on, when you do that kind of shit, all
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  Speaker 1: you do is open up a door for them to
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  Speaker 1: have an appeal and to maybe get out of jail.
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  Speaker 1: So here's an idea. Be a professional, do your job,
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  Speaker 1: get your paycheck, go home, work your twenty five years
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  Speaker 1: and collect your pension. Sources claimed he paid around four
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  Speaker 1: thousand dollars to inmates for contraband cell phones, though some
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  Speaker 1: were never provided. And that's definitely one of the licks
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  Speaker 1: in prison. Right, you're a mark, you're a square, you're
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  Speaker 1: a punk, you're a joke. Well, these inmates, yeah, we'll
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  Speaker 1: get you some contraband, homie. What's up it's gonna cost you,
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  Speaker 1: however much money. Let me get that dough though. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna need that up front. My people on the outside
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  Speaker 1: need that dodo right here. Bro, that's you know, the deal.
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  Speaker 1: And then Epstein pays the money. But on the flip side,
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  Speaker 1: he never ever, ever even receives the phone in some cases.
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  Speaker 1: And what can he do about it? Was he gonna
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  Speaker 1: go to the screws, He's gonna talk to the guards. Yeah, right,
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  Speaker 1: he's trying to buy contraband is he going to go
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  Speaker 1: to the people that already already boned him here? No,
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  Speaker 1: of course not so a regular prisoner, their only recourse
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  Speaker 1: is to go to a shot caller in the yard
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  Speaker 1: and try and get help that way. And I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: with enough money, Epstein could have done the same exact thing, right,
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  Speaker 1: because money talks. And if you think the Aryan Brotherhood
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  Speaker 1: or any of these other groups within the prison walls Blackhand,
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  Speaker 1: you think these guys aren't going to take, you know,
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  Speaker 1: fifteen twenty thousand dollars from Epstein to protect him every month,
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  Speaker 1: You're wrong. They most certainly will. It is a vicious
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  Speaker 1: game of politics within the prison walls. Folks. There is
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  Speaker 1: no doubt about that. It is Game of Thrones on
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  Speaker 1: steroids in those yards. They also claim that inmates would
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  Speaker 1: slide notes under his door saying we're going to kill you,
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  Speaker 1: you rapist, you pedophile, while others offered him security for
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  Speaker 1: a fee. And there you go. There's no doubt that
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  Speaker 1: security was offered. Now again, they could have just been
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  Speaker 1: screwing with him too. Offer the security, take the money,
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  Speaker 1: and then let him get stuck. Very possible. But it's
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  Speaker 1: also possible that if he was paying up on time
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  Speaker 1: every month that a group like the Aryan Brotherhood would
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  Speaker 1: most certainly provide him protection. If it's going to fat
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  Speaker 1: their pockets, if it's going to help them buy more
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  Speaker 1: heroin or fentanyl or whatever the hell they're sneaking into
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  Speaker 1: the jail to sell. Hell, yeah, they're going to be
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  Speaker 1: on board with that, because you see, folks, it is
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  Speaker 1: a doggyat dog world. There is no doubt about it,
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  Speaker 1: especially within the walls of a prison, and the fact
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  Speaker 1: that he was getting those notes slipped under the door,
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  Speaker 1: and shit, oh yeah, that would have been the rest
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  Speaker 1: of his life. Zero, there's no doubt about it. He
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  Speaker 1: would have had to go to the shoe, He would
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  Speaker 1: have to be in the protected yard with the other
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  Speaker 1: chomos and pedophiles and rapists and all of that, and
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  Speaker 1: that would have been the rest of his life because
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  Speaker 1: he could not have been on the main line you
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  Speaker 1: see right here. And how any of this is possible
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  Speaker 1: is beyond me anyway, honestly, because he shouldn't he shouldn't
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  Speaker 1: have had access to these other prisoners. But the government,
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  Speaker 1: in their negligent state, seemed to just have a hands
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  Speaker 1: off approach with Jeffrey Epstein, almost like they didn't care
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  Speaker 1: if he was harmed, almost like they kind of wanted it. Huh.
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  Speaker 1: Epstein sixty six, first arrived at the prison after his
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  Speaker 1: arrest on July sixth, twenty nineteen, while awaiting trial on
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  Speaker 1: sex trafficking charges. He was moved to the special housing
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  Speaker 1: unit four days later, which separated him from the rest
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  Speaker 1: of the inmates. There. Exactly, he has to be in
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  Speaker 1: He has to be in the shoe, no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 1: So once he was in the shoe, that should have
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  Speaker 1: ended all of the other bullshit, the extortion, the notes,
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  Speaker 1: blah blah blah. So how many of those notes could
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  Speaker 1: have possibly come in the first few days, how much
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  Speaker 1: of that happened in the first few days. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know your guess is as good as mine, but Epstein
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  Speaker 1: should have always been in the shoe from the very
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  Speaker 1: first day. The government should have understood who they were
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  Speaker 1: dealing with. His cellmate during that time was Nick Tartaglia,
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  Speaker 1: a former police officer facing the death penalty on charges
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  Speaker 1: of killing four men in a botched drug deal. So again,
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  Speaker 1: ask yourselves, why in the hell would Jeffrey Epstein be
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  Speaker 1: selled up? And is celli b a man who is
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  Speaker 1: waiting a death penalty charges for killing four men already?
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  Speaker 1: This dude has no hope right He's already on the
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  Speaker 1: cuff for four deaths. Why would you put a murderer
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  Speaker 1: in with Jeffrey effing Epstein after you already put him
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  Speaker 1: in the shoe. It does not make any sense whatsoever.
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  Speaker 1: Can anyone give me a logical explanation for why this
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  Speaker 1: would occur and why they wouldn't put him in a
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  Speaker 1: jail cell with someone like that dude Bill Mercy from
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  Speaker 1: the very beginning, or a jailhouse snitch, hoping that he'd
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  Speaker 1: rat himself out, But instead you put him in there
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  Speaker 1: with this muscle bound Paisano Guido Gorilla, who has more
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  Speaker 1: steroids juiced into him. It looks like then rich Piana,
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  Speaker 1: And you mean to tell me this is a quality move,
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  Speaker 1: this is a good idea, this is a logical step. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I disagree wholeheartedly. Nicholas Tartaglioni had no business being in
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  Speaker 1: a jail cell with a guy like Jeffrey Epstein. One
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  Speaker 1: prison inmate claimed he overheard Tartaglioni Warren Epstein not to
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  Speaker 1: kill himself while he was in the room, saying, listen,
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  Speaker 1: don't do that shit in here, do it on your own.
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  Speaker 1: So an inmate claims he heard Tartaglioni saying that. But
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  Speaker 1: remember the camera wasn't facing the jail cell. There's no documentation.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe Tartaglioni was joking his ass out and saying that
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  Speaker 1: while he was choking him out. The lay is alibi.
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  Speaker 1: Remember this is an ex cop. This isn't a stupid man,
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  Speaker 1: right this, Nicholas Tartaglioni. You would think he's a pretty
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  Speaker 1: intelligent guy for the most part. You know, shrewd, I
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  Speaker 1: should say, street smart enough to come up with a
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  Speaker 1: plan like this. And maybe he was sent there to
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  Speaker 1: send a message maybe he was sent there to send
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  Speaker 1: a message to Epstein, telling Epstein, look, if you don't
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  Speaker 1: clip yourself, where gonna get you. That's speculation on my part,
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  Speaker 1: but again, nobody can answer why Tartaglioni would be in
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  Speaker 1: a damn jail cell with Jeffrey flipping Epstein. However, on
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  Speaker 1: July twenty third, Epstein first attempted to take his own
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  Speaker 1: life by hanging himself using a strip of bedsheet. Allegedly,
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  Speaker 1: his cellmate Tartaglioni claims that he alerted prison officers and
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  Speaker 1: possibly saved Epstein's life, which is not disputed by prosecutors,
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  Speaker 1: and later told fellow prisoners that Epstein told him he
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  Speaker 1: was going to give him two million dollars in his
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  Speaker 1: will to thank him. Oh yeah, sure. Or that two
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  Speaker 1: million was so he didn't kill you in that JEO cell.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe that's the case. Is that bay off money? Maybe? Again,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, speculation on my part, but we have
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  Speaker 1: to take into account who we're dealing with here, and
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  Speaker 1: I don't mean Epstein. I'm talking about an ex cop
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  Speaker 1: who is on the cuff for four murder charges and
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  Speaker 1: a drug deal gone bad. This is the guy that's
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  Speaker 1: gonna tell Epstein, hey, don't kill yourself, buddy, I don't
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  Speaker 1: want you to die in here with me. This is
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  Speaker 1: a compassionate man. This is a man who's going around
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  Speaker 1: doing God's work. I mean, I guess maybe maybe everybody
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  Speaker 1: is a great character after all. So maybe he is
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  Speaker 1: this altruistic man who wanted Epstein to live a long,
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  Speaker 1: hearty life. Somehow I doubt it though. However, Tartaglioni's lawyer
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  Speaker 1: said he would be stunned beyond all imagination if it
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  Speaker 1: were true that his client was included in the millionaire's will.
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  Speaker 1: You mean the pedophiles will. And I hope he's not
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  Speaker 1: included in the will, by the way, because that's just
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  Speaker 1: more money that is not going to the girls that
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  Speaker 1: were abused. Epstein was put on suicide watch and moved
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  Speaker 1: to a cell with Efrin. Stone reyis the last inmate
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  Speaker 1: to share a cell with the sex offender. Oh that's
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  Speaker 1: nice a guy named stone reyis huh again, Hopefully this
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  Speaker 1: dude wasn't a murderer. Though, maybe this guy was just
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  Speaker 1: like a blue collar criminal or some shit. You you
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  Speaker 1: would think that's who they would put him in with, right,
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  Speaker 1: His memories of sharing a cell with Epstein, were retold
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  Speaker 1: by his niece, Angelique Lopez, after Efrin stone Reyes passed
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  Speaker 1: away in his mother's apartment on November twenty seventh. All Right,
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  Speaker 1: so right here, I'm skeptical right away. This is a
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  Speaker 1: story of telephone. It was told to the niece by
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  Speaker 1: the uncle, mister Stone Reyes, who shared a cell with
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  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. So take it with a grain of salt.
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  Speaker 1: Like everything else, right, we can only vet what we
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  Speaker 1: can vet, and then we can only you know, believe
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  Speaker 1: what we believe. And for me, I'm just here to
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  Speaker 1: provide this information for you folks, and then you folks
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  Speaker 1: believe what you want to believe. Right me, personally, I
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  Speaker 1: don't really uh take stuff like this too credible when
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  Speaker 1: it's second third hand. Now it might at you might
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  Speaker 1: be credible, right, but you'll need other sources to verify
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  Speaker 1: and back it up. So again, grain of salt. Time
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  Speaker 1: he said he was a good cell mate who read
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  Speaker 1: a lot and kept to himself. However, according to reyus
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  Speaker 1: niece's account, her uncle said he was very depressed and
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  Speaker 1: mentioned that he didn't want to live anymore. Ray's niece
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  Speaker 1: told the news that her uncle told him, don't do
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  Speaker 1: any of this while I'm in the room, so I
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  Speaker 1: could see that, right if you're if you you are
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  Speaker 1: in the jail cell with Jeffrey Epstein and you're this dude, Reyes,
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  Speaker 1: the last thing you need in your life, especially if
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  Speaker 1: you're getting ready to get out, like obviously Rayes was,
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  Speaker 1: the last thing you need is a high profile inmate
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  Speaker 1: like Epstein killing himself in the jail cell and all
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  Speaker 1: of the eyes turning towards you as a potential suspect
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  Speaker 1: or as the potential killer. So I get that. I'd
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  Speaker 1: be the same way. I'd be like, look, dude, you
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  Speaker 1: are not killing yourself in this jail cell. If you
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  Speaker 1: think you're going to kill yourself in this jail cell,
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  Speaker 1: you have another thing coming. The screws would come around
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  Speaker 1: and I'd have him tied up to the bars with
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  Speaker 1: his shirt and shit before I let him kill himself,
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  Speaker 1: because I got enough problems, right, especially if I'm sitting
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  Speaker 1: in a jail cell. Reyes also claimed that staff were
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  Speaker 1: treating Epstein like crap, making him sleep on the floor.
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  Speaker 1: After his death, a note was found that Epstein's cell
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  Speaker 1: saying that a correctional officer sent them burnt food, and
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  Speaker 1: that giant bugs were crawling over his hands. Again, not
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  Speaker 1: a good look, right for the mcc or the prison
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  Speaker 1: system in general. Now you're going to, oh, you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: have some bugs, this is New York City. But if
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  Speaker 1: it's to the point where they're crawling all over people's
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  Speaker 1: hands and shit like that, that's unacceptable in my opinion,
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  Speaker 1: and it's unneeded. We don't need to have a gel
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  Speaker 1: that's infested with bugs. Let's get it cleaned up, let's
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  Speaker 1: get it fixed. Epstein hanged himself using ripped bed sheets
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  Speaker 1: less than twenty four hours after Reys was transferred to
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  Speaker 1: another detention center in Queens, New York for cooperating witnesses. Ah,
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  Speaker 1: there you go. Reyes was a snitch. This is what
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  Speaker 1: they should have been doing from the very jump with Epstein.
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  Speaker 1: Put him in with a snitch, somebody who has some
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  Speaker 1: life to look forward to on the outside, somebody that
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  Speaker 1: could try and work them for some information. But instead
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  Speaker 1: you put him in with Nicholas tartag Leoni. See the
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  Speaker 1: stark difference here, right, folks. And my only question is why.
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  Speaker 1: When he was released from prison in April, o Reyes
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  Speaker 1: expressed doubts that Epstein could have hanged himself from the
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  Speaker 1: frame of the bunk bed as it wasn't tall enough,
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  Speaker 1: saying that it didn't make sense. However, he said he
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  Speaker 1: couldn't be sure, as sometimes people are fighting something we
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  Speaker 1: know nothing about. I agree about him not being able
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  Speaker 1: to hang himself from that bed. It just does not
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't look like it is something that's feasible to me.
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  Speaker 1: Am I a pathologist? Am you know somebody who knows
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  Speaker 1: about hanging or a phiciation or anything like that. No,
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  Speaker 1: totally not. But from what I've read and from my
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  Speaker 1: position over here in the peanut gallery, it seems like
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  Speaker 1: it would be damn hard to hang yourself in that situation.
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  Speaker 1: In a statement, Epstein's lawyer, Read Weingarten said, if your
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  Speaker 1: information is correct, it is horrifying that such conditions are
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  Speaker 1: generally tolerated in a federal prison within the shadows of
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  Speaker 1: the federal courthouse, the US Attorney's Office, and the FBI.
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  Speaker 1: I happen to agree with this idiot unfortunately about that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want again. I want these prisons to be
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  Speaker 1: uh not tip top. It's not it's not the you know,
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  Speaker 1: the four seasons, but they should be clean. They should
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  Speaker 1: be livable. Nobody should be sleeping on the floor, and
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  Speaker 1: certainly there should be no infestations of bugs. Besides that,
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  Speaker 1: you know you'll never hear me talking about Oh I
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  Speaker 1: think they need more TV time. Nope. I think that
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  Speaker 1: your behavior should decide what sort of perks you get
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  Speaker 1: while you're a prisoner. If you make an effort to rehabilitate,
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  Speaker 1: you should get more. If you want to be a
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  Speaker 1: scuzzbag your whole life and stay in prison and do
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  Speaker 1: your gang banging and your drug dealing and your extortion,
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  Speaker 1: well hey have at it. You're not gonna get any
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  Speaker 1: extra privileges. I mean, there won't be any like bugs
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  Speaker 1: anymore if I was in charge. But as far as
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  Speaker 1: extra privileges, forget about it. Those have to be earned
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  Speaker 1: in prison. And I think we should move more towards
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  Speaker 1: a system where people actually have a shot to rehabilitate. Again,
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  Speaker 1: not people like Epstein. I'm talking about overall people who
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  Speaker 1: got in trouble for drugs and shit like that. What
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  Speaker 1: would be even worse would be a federal law enforcement
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  Speaker 1: was specifically aware of the threats and extortions and did
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  Speaker 1: nothing to protect Epstein, but rather fought tooth and nail
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  Speaker 1: against any bell conditions so as to keep him in
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  Speaker 1: these conditions. When the government keeps an inmate in their custody,
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  Speaker 1: they are on the hook for protecting them, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't think the government went far enough protecting Epstein. It
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  Speaker 1: certainly looks like they've learned their lesson the second time
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  Speaker 1: around with Maxwell. But with Epstein, no matter if he
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: killed himself, if he was allowed to kill himself, or
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: if somebody else did the deed, the fact of the
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: matter is there was a huge failure on the end
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: of the Bureau of Prisons, the Department of Justice, and
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: the whole system as a whole. No inmate as high
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: profile as Jeffrey Epstein should ever be in a jail
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: cell with Nicholas Tartaglioni. Jeffrey Epstein should have been in
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: a jail cell with somebody like this, mister Reyes or
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: mister Mercy. Instead, the government was negligent in their duties,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: and Jeffrey Epstein died in their custody. Whether it be
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: suicide or murder, the fact remains that Jeffrey Epstein was
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: in the custody of the United States government, and the
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: United States government failed the survivors failed society and failed
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  Speaker 1: in their duties to keep one of the most high
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  Speaker 1: profile inmates safe to face the justice that he so deserved.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: It's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: In today's episode, we're going to hear from a woman
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: named Judith Miller, who served time at the MCC and
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: was also a inmate in the federal prison system, and
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: she has a few opinions about Jeffrey Epstein's alleged suicide
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: and what went down in that jail cell. This article
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: is from I on the News, and like I said,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: the author is Judith Miller. It was originally posted on
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  Speaker 1: August eleventh of two thousand and nineteen. Here are a
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: few things I know firsthand about being in jail. First
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: and foremost, you have virtually no control over your life
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: and surroundings. You can't get so much as an aspirin
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: without authorization in most jails. You can't wear a belt
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: or shoelaces, or keep a razor in your cell. You
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: have no privacy, no sense of dignity, and no rights.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: In a well run jail, high profile prisoners have virtually
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: no chance of killing themselves. That is a fact when
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: a jail is run efficiently and a facility is run
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: with care, and people take the time in positions of
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: power to make sure they're doing the right thing, inmates
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: shouldn't be killing themselves. And even at the MCC with
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: it being such a damn dump, it wasn't like this
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: was a big problem there, like a whole bunch of
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: people were killing themselves on a regular basis and it
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: was causing all kinds of you know, grief in the system.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: That's not what was occurring. So to pitch Jeffrey Epstein's
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: alleged suicide as just, you know, a shrug of the
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: shoulders and well it was expected is ridiculous to me.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: So the alleged suicide of Jeffrey Epstein, the sixty six
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: year old pedophile with powerful American and foreign friends who
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: was about to stand trial for allegedly sexually abusing dozens
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: of girls, many of them underage, is particularly unfathomable and outrageous.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: In a letter to the Justice Department, Republican Senator Ben
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Sass of Nebraska called it inexcusable that Epstein did not
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: live to face his accusers. For all of Ben Sass's
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: jawing and all of his yip yappin. I haven't seen
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: him do one single thing about bringing a commission together
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: here to listen to what happened. Can we get a
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: full account about what happened with Jeffrey Epstein, please, And
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: let's not act like it was just, you know, a
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: regular old trafficking ring. This as a man who was
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: connected to the most powerful people in the world, and
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: all of that needs to be exposed. Obviously, heads must roll,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: he wrote. Attorney General William Barr clearly agrees, saying that
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: he was appalled to have learned that Epstein was found
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: dead at six thirty am on Saturday morning at the
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Metropolitan Correctional Center MCC in Lower Manhattan. Barr instructed the
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: department's Inspector General to investigate precisely how Epstein died at MCC,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: a long troubled pre trial detention facility. So all of
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: the talk right, heads are going to roll. People are
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: gonna be held accountable. Nobody has been held accountable. And
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: even the lowly guard to quote unquote foe of sleep
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: while they were watching Epstein ended up getting off scott free.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: So you didn't even get low hanging fruit here. They're
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: basically telling you to go get eft as the public,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: You're never going to get any information, and if you
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: ask about what happened here, we're gonna have our lap
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: dogs over at NPR call you a conspiracy theorist. Basically
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: what's going on and the fact that anyone would believe
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Bill Barr is just beyond me. I remember having this
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: conversation with conservative friends when Bill Barr was brought on
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: board by Donald Trump, and people saying how great he was,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: how he's been around forever, like that's a good thing,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: and how he's part of, you know, the fabric of
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: the justice system, as if that's a good thing. Again,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: I equate it to one of those retread coaches in
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: the NFL Awade Phillips type. You keep bringing this guy
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: in expecting different results, and then when shit goes south, well,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: who do you have to blame but yourself. Epstein was
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: placed on suicide watch on July twenty third after being
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: found semi conscious in his cell with Marx on his neck,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: in what prison officials described at the time as a
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: felt suicide attempt. He was removed from suicide watch six
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: days later on July twenty ninth, and returned to the
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: segregated area of the prison with extra security, known as
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: the Special Housing Unit. Why Epstein was removed from suicide
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: watch is a focus of the DOJ investigation. It's crazy, okay,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: that's a focus of the investigation, But not the fact
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: that he was in the cell when the alleged suicide
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: happened or attempt happened with Nicholas Tartaglioni. That's not something
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: you want to investigate. How old, big muscle ape girla
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: guy got into the jail cell with Jeffrey Epstein. We're
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: just going to ignore that fact. And that's why for
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: the last few days we've been hammering home the point
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: that nobody has answered the question of why Epstein was
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: in the cell with Tartaglioni in the first place. While
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: officials from the Department's Bureau of Prisons, which supervises the
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: MCC and other federal prisons, have said little about Epstein's
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: death other than to claim that Epstein hanged himself, officials
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: told me Sunday that the prison psychological team had evaluated
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Epstein on a daily basis after his alleged initial suicide
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: attempt and had found him to be no risk to
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: himself or to others. And you see, these are the
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: little facts that we've seem to overlook in the legacy
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: media and with their official narrative. At no point did
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Epstein seems suicidal to anybody that was around him, psychologists,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: his lawyers, or the people that were visiting him on
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: a regular basis. So it's kind of a big stretch
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: to say to me, well, the guy's obviously suicidal. He
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: tried to kill himself the first time, when there's no
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: proof that that even occurred. So what you're asking me
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: to do is believe the official narrative. And I have
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: a hard time believing people that are unbelievable. So whatever
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: other people want to do, that's fine. I'm not telling
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: anyone else how they should think or what they should
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: think about what went down here. I'm just pointing out
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: that the official narrative has as many holes in it
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: as a thing of Swiss chief. But it's a big
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: conspiracy theory to even point that out. Officials said that
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Epstein had met for many hours each day with his
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: legal team, and that both he and his lawyers had
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: repeatedly assured the prison that he did not want to
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: kill himself and that asked mcc to remove him from
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: the suicide Watch now to play devil's advocate. That could
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: have easily been a scheme by him saying, hey, look,
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I'm not suicidal, I don't have any desire to kill myself,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: when he really does, and he was doing this all
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: as a ruse so that he'd be off of suicide Watch.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: It's plausible. It is possible, but unless there are some
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: evidence that proves that, I'm not going to just bite
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: on what the officials are telling us. The prison has
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: yet to comment on whether prison officials believe that the
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: initial July twenty third incident that landed Epstein on the
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: suicide Watch was in fact a genuine attempt to end
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: his life. I do not think it was. Honestly, at
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: this point, I am convinced that it was Nicholas Tartaglioni
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: who roughed them up. I truly believe that, finally official said.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: At least one member of Epstein's legal team was with
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: him until six thirty pm on the Friday evening before
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: his death. None of his legal team, Reed Wingarten, mart Weinberg,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Michael Miller, or Mark Furnitch would comment about their client's
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: emotional and mental state the night before his death and
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: during the last six days of his incarceration. Now it's
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: come out after the fact that none of these people
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: thought that Jeffrey Epstein was suicidal. Nobody that he was
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: talking to. Officials said that under the prison's rules and procedures,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Epstein was supposed to be given a cellmate and monitored
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: by prison guards every thirty minutes twenty four hours a
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: day after being removed from suicide watch. So he had
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: no cell mate and nobody was monitoring him. Nobody can
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: and checked on him. So is it the perfect storm
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: or was this all set up for Jeffrey Epstein to
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: do what he did? And that's something we have to
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: keep in mind too, you know, we're all of the
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: factors put into place so that Epstein could take care
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: of himself. Tartaglioni sent in there to send a message. Again,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: this is all speculation, just like what everybody else is
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: talking about. By the way, nobody knows what went on
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: in that cell. Anybody who tells you with a surety
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: that they do while they're lying to you. But for me,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: very easily it could have been Tartaglioni sent to that cell,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: sends Jeffrey Epstein a message by choking his ass and
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: tells him, look, I'm going to kill you. Someone else
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: is going to kill you if you don't kill yourself.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: That is very possible. That is a scenario that could
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: have played out, and frankly, I think is one of
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: the more likelier scenarios to have played out. But the
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: fact is we do not know. Prison experts believe that
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: having a cell mat helps deter suicide. Neither officials nor
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Epstein's legal team would comment on whether those procedures were followed,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: but at least one official familiar with the episode said
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: that they were not. None of them were followed. None
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: of the regulations in prison or the steps required when
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: something happens when someone dies were followed. The jail cell
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: wasn't treated as a crime scene. There was no body
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: camera footage of them going into the jail cell. All
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: of it was a disaster. Now. I know people out
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: there they'll say, oh, it's just a systemic error. You know,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: everything's just broken. Well, if that is the take that
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: you have on it, then are you just okay with
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: it staying the way it is? Because nothing has been
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: done to fix it. So if you're not going crazy
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: that it's broken, then you must be okay that it
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: is the way it is. Epstein had a cell mate
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: before his initial alleged suicide attempt, but cellmate Nicholas tar Tagleone,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: a former police BAE officer facing murder charges, was not
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: returned to share a cell with him after Epstein was
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: placed on watch and then removed from the list, one
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: official said. That official said that Epstein was alone in
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: his cell for some time before his death, again in
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: violation of the prison's rules. They don't even talk about
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Tartaglioni rough and Epstein up here. That is exactly what
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Epstein said. Remember Nicholas Tartaglioni rough me up if he
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: wanted to, you know, the suicide watch situation, why would
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: he say that. So again, it just doesn't make sense,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: and there are so many holes in the official narrative
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: that questions have to be asked. If confirmed. Such disclosures
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: about what appear to be failures in Epstein's detention at
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: MCC can only intensify questions and suspicions about his death.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: This facility is known for being deeply troubled. One official said,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: though Others cautioned that the DOJ and the prison's own
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: investigations were in its initial stages, and that facts could
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: change as the inquiry progressed, or they could get stashed
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: if it's something that the DOJ doesn't like, something that's
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: going to embarrass the DOJ. Imagine if the people of
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: America had the ability to audit the DOJ the way
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: that IRS can audit you boy, oh boy, That would
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: change things, wouldn't it. My own relatively small brush with
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: America's justice system was profoundly different from Epstein's. Unlike him,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: I was jailed voluntarily. Then a journalist with The New
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: York Times. I chose to spend three months at Alexandria
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Detention Center near Washington in two thousand and five rather
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: than identify my sources to an over zealous prosecutor pursuing
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: the leaking of classified information. So they'll go after journalists, right,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: no problem, But they have a big problem going after
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: their friends in the banking system. Tells you everything you
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: need to know. Epstein, having escaped real incarceration for years
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: since his first conviction in Florida in two thousand on
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: state charges of solicitation of prostitution from a minor, had
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: no choice but jail. After his initial conviction in Florida. However,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: he broke her a much criticized deal that enabled him
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: to avoid federal charges and spend only thirteen months behind bars.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Even then, he was permitted to leave jail to work
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: at his office for up to twelve hours a day,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: six days a week, while he was still abusing people.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: By the way, according to all reports and all accounts,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: he was still abusing people. And why did the officer
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: in Palm Beach that was assigned to him destroy a
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: bunch of records. I don't want to digress too far here,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: but come on, man. Epstein was charged with new federal
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: crimes on July sixth, after he returned from overseas and
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: was arrested at Teterborough Airport. Federal District Court Judge Richard
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Berman deemed him a flight risk given his vast wealth,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: many residences, and high powered social connections, amongst them President
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump, former President Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew of Britain,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: and Leslie H. Wexner, the retail billionaire and an item bell.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Epstein was sent to await trial at MCC and he
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: should have been Let's not make pretend he shouldn't have
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: been there. That's exactly where he should have been, waiting
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: for trial, where it was up to the do nothing
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: prison guards and the shitty administration to make sure that
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: this man faced justice, and that didn't happen, and still
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: no consequences for the people involved. Unlike ADC, a Virginia
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: state run jail, MCC is one of two federal pre
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: trial facilities in New York City, this one in downtown Manhattan,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: two blocks from City Hall. Known as Manhattan's guantanamo for
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: holding prisoners charge with terrorist crimes, it has a poor reputation.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: In an article published by The Gothamis last year, Jean Theoharis,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: a Brooklyn College political science professor who has written extensively
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: about the conditions at MCC, called facility and American gulag.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: She told the Gothamist, if I describe these conditions filthy, freezing,
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: no natural light, isolation so extreme that you're punished for
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: speaking through the walls, upsurd rules like prisoners not getting
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: to see the newspapers unless they're thirty days old, secrecies
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: so deep that people are force fed, and lawyers can
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: be punished for describing the conditions their clients are experiencing.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: You'd be forgiven for thinking that this was Iran or Russia. Look,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: the system is fucked. There is no doubt that it
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: needs to be fixed. And there's a reason that they
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: closed MCC. This place was an absolute dump. That said,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: it wasn't a place where a bunch of people were
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: killing themselves. While both ADC and MCC are high security
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: detention facilities that hold high profile prisoners, my own experience
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: as inmate number four five five seven zero zero eight
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: three has led me to conclude that Epstein, inmate number
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: seven six three one point eight dashed zero five to four,
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: should have lived to face his accusers, and that in
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: a well run prison he would have The ongoing investigation
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: by the FBIDJ Inspector General and the prison itself will
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: explore whether MCC is among the nation's worst run federal
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: pre trial facilities, and or whether Epstein may have had
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: some desire or unwanted help in ending his life and
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: escaping his day in court. Now, look again, I'm not
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: sitting out here telling you, oh yeah, he was definitely killed.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: I simply don't know, and I want answers. That is
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: the root of all of it. I want answers, just
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: like I know you do. I shun conspiracy theories, but
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: based on the little that prison officials have said so
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: far and what I know of life in jail, Epstein's
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: death is deeply troubling. No one should die of unnatural
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: causes in jail, in a well managed facility. No one would, however,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: lure the charges against him and the perverse nature of
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: his alleged crimes. The Epstein death behind bars should trouble
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: every American. The investigation must not rest until what happened
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: is revealed. Well, we know that's not the case, and
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: we know that they say the investigations ongoing that way,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: they don't have to give up any information. But what
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: have we really seen from the investigators that really confirms
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: the official narrative or their story of the official narrative.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen any receipts, and I certainly haven't seen
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: anything that makes me say to myself, you know what,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: this really has legs and this is more likely than
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: this because as of now, I am very very agnostic
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: about what went down in that jail and in that
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: jail cell, and until we have more evidence, one way
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: or the other. This will continue to be my position,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: all right, folks, It's gonna do it for this one.
• 38:56
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• 38:58
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