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Furness Show 2-13: Greg Cosell, Gary Parrish and Rob Rang · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 3: I did not know that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, my god, but yeah, Miles get out there
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  Speaker 2: crazy show. Here's what we got coming up today. Greg
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  Speaker 2: co Sale standing by, he's waiting on hold. Where are
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  Speaker 2: you in? What does a film say? We'll get to
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  Speaker 2: him in just a second. Gary Parrish, first visit of
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  Speaker 2: the year, talking all things college hoops. We are four
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  Speaker 2: Let's go.
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  Speaker 1: It's time for Egan's weekly visit with NFL Films. Greg Coso,
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  Speaker 2: All right, here we go. You know what we said
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  Speaker 2: last week that was gonna be it, but I don't know. Somehow,
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  Speaker 2: just been hanging out with Greg co sell all last
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  Speaker 2: week at the Super Bowl and kind of shepherding him
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  Speaker 2: around and stuff, convinced him to come back on one
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  Speaker 2: more time this week. And I couldn't be happier to
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  Speaker 2: wrap up the year, wrap up the Super Bowl, take
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  Speaker 2: a quick look ahead as well for the Seahawks in
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  Speaker 2: the offseason. And Greg co sil is here. How are you, sir?
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  Speaker 5: And I'm doing great. I mean, it's hard to believe
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  Speaker 5: the Super Bowl's over your Seahawks, the Super Bowl champions,
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  Speaker 5: And you know, it's funny. A lot of people told
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  Speaker 5: me that watching on TV, which I'm sure you did, Ian,
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  Speaker 5: you know that and you obviously had an interest. But
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  Speaker 5: a lot of people saying it was a boring game.
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  Speaker 5: You know, when I watched the tape, which was on
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  Speaker 5: Tuesday of this week, as I flew back from San
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  Speaker 5: Francisco Monday, I thought, tactically it was a fascinating game. Now,
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  Speaker 5: you know again, I know a lot of people like
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  Speaker 5: touchdowns and scoring, but I thought it was a fascinating
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  Speaker 5: game tactically.
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  Speaker 2: I think everybody that said it was boring had someone
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  Speaker 2: scoring the first touchdown, other than AJ Barner so or
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  Speaker 2: had some prop bets going on for multiple touchdowns. I
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  Speaker 2: thought the same thing, Greg. I mean, it's different because
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  Speaker 2: if your team's in it, right, like if you're teams
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  Speaker 2: in the super Bowl, I think if you ask Patriot fans,
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  Speaker 2: it was excruciating. If you watch Seahawk fans, it was awesome.
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  Speaker 2: If you're just an NFL fan and you had prop
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  Speaker 2: bets and you had squares, and you had all the
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  Speaker 2: other stuff that goes on, you wanted more scoring. And
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  Speaker 2: I get that. But I'm glad you mentioned that because
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  Speaker 2: I thought, you know, Ken Walker was the MVP, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, you could make an argument for Witherspoon or
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  Speaker 2: Hall or some others along the way. But Greg, let's
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  Speaker 2: just talk about the real MVP, and that would be
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  Speaker 2: Mike McDonald and what he did with that defense.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's really interesting. And obviously I've done
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  Speaker 5: other shows this week, but the thing that you know,
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  Speaker 5: I'm sure people in Seattle know this. They were not
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  Speaker 5: a high percentage blitz defense this season relative to the
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  Speaker 5: rest of the NFL. Obviously, I looked up a lot
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  Speaker 5: of things after I watched the tape this week. Things
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  Speaker 5: I already knew, but just to you know, reconfirm as
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  Speaker 5: it were. You know, they were twenty seventh out of
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  Speaker 5: thirty two teams in blitz percentage meaning thrushing five or
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  Speaker 5: more so. And I'm not saying Josh McDaniel's unaware that
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  Speaker 5: they might blitz. You know, Jess mccannals has been doing
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  Speaker 5: this a long time. But sometimes you just can't pick
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  Speaker 5: up pressures and you know, you still have a young
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  Speaker 5: quarterback who's only in his second season. So you start
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  Speaker 5: this game and you know, you get the second third
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  Speaker 5: down on the first possession, which is third and nine,
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  Speaker 5: and they go with a really wonderful blitz concept. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: I thought that was you know, they they could not
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  Speaker 5: pick up Witherspoon coming off the edge, and that was
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  Speaker 5: the one where May ran out of the pocket and
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  Speaker 5: threw it away on third and nine. But you know,
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  Speaker 5: that was the second third down on the first possession,
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  Speaker 5: so clearly that was game plan by Mike McDonald. And
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  Speaker 5: then you go to third and fifteen on the second possession,
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  Speaker 5: and that was the Witherspoon sack and that one was
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  Speaker 5: beautiful as well, that that one they could not pick
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  Speaker 5: up at all. Witherspoon was lined up over the slot.
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  Speaker 5: He came from distance. He actually lined up with depth,
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  Speaker 5: so you didn't necessarily think of him as a blitzer
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  Speaker 5: at all. And in fact, they disguised it beautifully because
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  Speaker 5: the safeties just they nothing about the way the safeties
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  Speaker 5: lined up indicated that a blitz was coming. You know,
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  Speaker 5: these two plays, you know, I'm not going to go
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  Speaker 5: into the weeds because people, you know, would need to
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  Speaker 5: see them. They're almost their breakdown kinds of plays. Like
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  Speaker 5: if we were doing the Matchup Show this week, I
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  Speaker 5: would do one of these plays in the Matchup Show
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  Speaker 5: because they had so many cool elements to them. But
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  Speaker 5: the larger point is is he came out on these
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  Speaker 5: first two third and longs in the game and with
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  Speaker 5: really well schemed, detailed pressure concepts, and I thought that
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  Speaker 5: set the tone for the game because they did not
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  Speaker 5: blitz a lot after that. The thing is, when they
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  Speaker 5: did blitz, it was very effective. So people thought, oh
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  Speaker 5: my god, they're blitzing all over the place. But they
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  Speaker 5: did not blitz a lot. You know, they look at
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  Speaker 5: the and Wosu forty five yard interception return where they
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  Speaker 5: did blitz, and that that sort of made people think,
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  Speaker 5: oh god, they're blitzing all game. But it was really
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  Speaker 5: those two early in the game that I thought set
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  Speaker 5: the tone.
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  Speaker 2: For the game. If you listen to our show at
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  Speaker 2: all this year with Greg, you know all that that
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  Speaker 2: the blitz, right was a little We talked about that
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  Speaker 2: last Friday. Greg was kind of something you expected. You
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  Speaker 2: saw at the NFC Championship game, right, you saw it
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  Speaker 2: an NFC title game. It's almost like he was just
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  Speaker 2: kind of playing, you know, playing possum all year or something.
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  Speaker 2: You know, at times Mike McDonald, right, he just kind
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  Speaker 2: of he brings these guys out of the woodwork on
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  Speaker 2: some of those Wooz packages. You know, a lot was
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  Speaker 2: made about Will Campbell. I believe I'm gonna go back.
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  Speaker 2: I believe you told us even in the draft process
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  Speaker 2: last year you had some concerns about Will Campbell, right.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, look, he was a really good college player.
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  Speaker 5: There's no getting around that. He was a three year
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  Speaker 5: starter in the SEC, a really good college player. You know,
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  Speaker 5: I'm not an offensive line guru, as you know. You know,
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  Speaker 5: the argument and the debate about arm length, whether it's
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  Speaker 5: a quarter of an inch or a half inch, I
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  Speaker 5: don't you know, I've asked offensive line coaches, and I
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  Speaker 5: get different answers, So I'm not going to get into that.
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  Speaker 5: What I saw on and this is something that can
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  Speaker 5: be fixed, is what I saw in film is he
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  Speaker 5: he does two things. Number One, he's a vertical setter,
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  Speaker 5: meaning he drops deep, so there's a lot of space
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  Speaker 5: between him and the edge pass rusher, especially if the
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  Speaker 5: edge pass rusher lines up a little wide. So what
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  Speaker 5: does that mean. It means that the edge pass rusher
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  Speaker 5: can generate speed in velocity because he's not being stopped
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  Speaker 5: early in his get off. And the problem I thought
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  Speaker 5: that Campbell had was that he was consistently late with
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  Speaker 5: his hands. His strike timing was way off. So what
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  Speaker 5: happens is if you're late with your hands, the rusher
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  Speaker 5: gets inside of you. You could have the longest arms
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  Speaker 5: in the world, and you can weigh five hundred pounds,
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  Speaker 5: you know, but if people get inside of you, they're
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  Speaker 5: going to.
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  Speaker 6: Move you, you know.
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  Speaker 5: And that's what happened throughout the playoffs. You know, obviously
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  Speaker 5: he played some really good pass rushers, but you know what,
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  Speaker 5: in the playoffs, you play really good pass rushers. That's
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  Speaker 5: why they're in the playoffs. So again, I'm not, you know,
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  Speaker 5: like I said, I've had this conversation with all coaches
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  Speaker 5: and you know, different different responses, So we won't get
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  Speaker 5: into that. But the point what I saw just from
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  Speaker 5: a film perspective was Boyd just his strike timing was
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  Speaker 5: consistently late.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I think what a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: saw too, was you know, a defense that was they
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  Speaker 2: had their earspinned back, they knew what they wanted to do,
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  Speaker 2: they executed perfectly. You mentioned the blitz, you know what
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  Speaker 2: they were able to do in that regard and mix things.
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  Speaker 2: If Derek Hall had two sacks all year, he had
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  Speaker 2: two sacks in that game. Yeah, I mean, and power
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  Speaker 2: sacks too. Like as you're describing that, I'm thinking of
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  Speaker 2: him as watching the game and talking to you know,
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  Speaker 2: the kids watching with me and stuff. They talked about that.
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  Speaker 2: The fact that you know, he just got so much
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  Speaker 2: did Derek Hall so much velocity, so much momentum going
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  Speaker 2: at him and just strength wise bullied him back there,
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  Speaker 2: and that can be fixing. Yeah, maybe let's look at
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  Speaker 2: it from sea our perspective.
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  Speaker 5: So go ahead, Can I just make two o you
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  Speaker 5: know points about you, how Mike McDonald and how smart
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  Speaker 5: this this plan was. You know, every team knows how
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  Speaker 5: other teams pass protect and the Patriots under Josh McDaniels
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  Speaker 5: are what we call aim my protection team, So he
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  Speaker 5: messed around with that. You know, he knew that the quarterback.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, people can remember Tom Brady constantly saying, you know,
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  Speaker 5: fifty two is the mic, fifty whoever, whatever number it was,
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  Speaker 5: that's the way that it's taught with Josh McDaniels. So
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  Speaker 5: when you know that, you can mess around with who
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  Speaker 5: the MIC is by alignment, and that can cause problems.
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  Speaker 5: And obviously Drake May does not have the kind of
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  Speaker 5: experience to handle that the way Tom Brady would handle it.
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  Speaker 5: The other thing I thought was really really good is
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  Speaker 5: I thought Ernest Jones was a key player in their
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  Speaker 5: third down plan. A high percentage of the snaps he
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  Speaker 5: lined up on the ball, whether it was in loaded fronts,
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  Speaker 5: you know, which we've talked about, where you know, you're
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  Speaker 5: lining up three defensive alignment to one side of the center,
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  Speaker 5: and then Jones would line up on the ball opposite
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  Speaker 5: that loaded front. So there were a ton of five
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  Speaker 5: man fronts, which dictates protections. So they just did a
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  Speaker 5: I thought Mike McDonald did really an amazing job of
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  Speaker 5: dictating protections with his front looks, understanding how the Patriots
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  Speaker 5: protecting the Josh McDaniels system, and you know, like I said,
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  Speaker 5: they didn't blitz all game, but they started a game
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  Speaker 5: doing this, and I thought it just really set the tone.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I was thinking, I'm talking offensive line. I
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  Speaker 2: think in over the years, we've had some a lot
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  Speaker 2: of conversations, you and I over talking about Charles Cross
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  Speaker 2: and how much this guy's improved during his time with Seattle.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, guys can get better in the league.
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  Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it. I want to throw yeah, right,
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  Speaker 2: you know about and no doubt about it?
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  Speaker 7: All right?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, we're not good. We're not saying you mentioned
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  Speaker 5: Will Campbell. We're not going to sit here and say
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  Speaker 5: Will Campbell's never going to be I don't do that
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  Speaker 5: kind of stuff. You know that, And you know this
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  Speaker 5: whole thing's a processed Guys can kind of improve too.
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  Speaker 5: He's twenty one years old.
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  Speaker 2: I thought the narrative was more like, boy Campbell was
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  Speaker 2: awful as opposed to Seattle was good. I thought Seattle
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  Speaker 2: was really good and Campbell struggled against the good team.
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  Speaker 2: As you mentioned, you see that in the postseason. I
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  Speaker 2: want to throw a guy out there. This is where
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  Speaker 2: I give Greg Cosell kudos because we talked about another
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  Speaker 2: guy we've talked about a lot over the last couple
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  Speaker 2: of years. Really, Greg is Ken Walker. In the end,
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  Speaker 2: twenty seven carries for one thirty five, two catches for
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  Speaker 2: twenty seven yards as well, and you know, with Charbonay
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  Speaker 2: being hurt, they had to go to Walker and lean
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  Speaker 2: heavily on him, and he came through named the MVP
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  Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl. Greg, I feel like you and
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  Speaker 2: I have been vindicated along with a guy by the
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  Speaker 2: name of Hugh Mill and we've been wanting more Ken
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  Speaker 2: Walker for a long time. We finally got it and
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  Speaker 2: he came through.
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  Speaker 5: Just before I say what I thought of Walker, I
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  Speaker 5: thought the center Sundal had an exceptionally good game. And
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  Speaker 5: you know, normally we talked, like you said, we talk
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  Speaker 5: about offensive tackles a lot, but I thought that Sundal
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  Speaker 5: had a really strong game. So anyway, talking about Walker,
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  Speaker 5: I thought he ran really well and I thought what
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  Speaker 5: he did was First of all, I was surprised they
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  Speaker 5: got the edge as much as they did. We talked
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  Speaker 5: about that last week. I didn't think they'd be able
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  Speaker 5: to do that. I was on a call with a
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  Speaker 5: Jay Gruden and he made the point that they just
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  Speaker 5: don't have big people on the edge. So even if
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  Speaker 5: they try to set the edge with guys like Landering
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  Speaker 5: and Chase On, they're just not big people. So they
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  Speaker 5: but so they didn't really set the edge well because
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  Speaker 5: we saw Walker, I mean, first play of the game,
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  Speaker 5: he got the edge, but I thought that he showed
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  Speaker 5: calculated patients and when you show that kind of patience
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  Speaker 5: and you manipulate second level defenders, and I thought then
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  Speaker 5: the vision was phenomenal to hit the open gap. We
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  Speaker 5: know he's got burst in acceleration. He had five runs
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  Speaker 5: of ten plus yards. Forty three percent of his yards
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  Speaker 5: came before first contact. So the O line did a
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  Speaker 5: great job as well. But I just saw back that
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  Speaker 5: I thought ran with the kind of patients that has
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  Speaker 5: not really been his mo through much of his career.
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  Speaker 5: This to me was as good as he's ever run,
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  Speaker 5: and obviously it was in the biggest game of his career.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I want to look ahead a little bit in
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  Speaker 2: a second before I do that great cosale join us
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  Speaker 2: courtesy The Sales Sider. Okay, before we do that, just
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  Speaker 2: one final thing I want to talk about the Seahawks
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  Speaker 2: passing game. Cooper couple leads away six catches for sixty
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  Speaker 2: one yards, Jackson, Smith and Jig, but didn't do much
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  Speaker 2: in terms of stats. Four for twenty seven Donald nineteen
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  Speaker 2: to thirty eight, two h two, one touchdown, no interceptions,
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  Speaker 2: and I guess that's the biggest thing. Sam Donald goes
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  Speaker 2: to the last half of the last few few weeks
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  Speaker 2: of the season, playoffs, without an interception, without a turnover
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  Speaker 2: in the playoffs. What did you see from number fourteen
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  Speaker 2: for Seattle.
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  Speaker 5: Well, don't forget they played a team that is really
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  Speaker 5: good on defense and the Patriots, and the Patriots were
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  Speaker 5: high percentage blitz. They rushed five or more on twenty
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  Speaker 5: three with Donald's forty dropbacks, so you know this team attacked.
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  Speaker 5: They attacked. Now, the Seahawks, what they did a really
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  Speaker 5: good job of, I thought was pre snap movement. They
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  Speaker 5: did more pre snap movement in this game than what
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  Speaker 5: their season average was. You know, the play that really
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  Speaker 5: reflected that, because it was early in the fourth quarter,
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  Speaker 5: was the Barnard touchdown where they put him in motion.
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  Speaker 5: Everything about the play looked like outside zone, which they
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  Speaker 5: had run multiple times in the game, as you know,
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  Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden it wasn't outside zone.
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  Speaker 5: And Gibbons, the linebacker was responsible for barner and coverage,
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  Speaker 5: and he just attacked downhill because he saw outside zone,
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  Speaker 5: you know. And it was a beautiful call in that moment.
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  Speaker 5: But you know, Donald, what I've been saying all week
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  Speaker 5: is Donald played that game the way the game demanded
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  Speaker 5: to be played. Now, I thought he missed a few,
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  Speaker 5: you know, and if he had hit those, we would
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  Speaker 5: have had a bigger score and it would have been
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  Speaker 5: even more theoretically of a blowout. But he played that
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  Speaker 5: game the way it demanded to be played. There was
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  Speaker 5: no need to force throws. There was no need to
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  Speaker 5: try to play hero ball. Just let the game play out.
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  Speaker 5: Throw a check down if need be, try to stay
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  Speaker 5: ahead of the sticks. Look, they controlled the ball for
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  Speaker 5: thirty three minutes. Yet they weren't very good on third down,
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  Speaker 5: so normally that doesn't happen that way. But they were
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  Speaker 5: able to maintain possession of the football. Now, their defense
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  Speaker 5: had a lot to do with that as well. But
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  Speaker 5: I thought, you know, look, yeah, I love listening to
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  Speaker 5: Tom Brady when he does games. And you know, I
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  Speaker 5: said this phrase earlier in the week, and I'm not
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  Speaker 5: going to take credit for it because I believe it's
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  Speaker 5: a Matt Hasselback phrase. But Matt Hasselback said that don't
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  Speaker 5: use the term game manager, use the term game commander
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: because game manager sounds negative, game commander sounds positive. And
• 15:13
  Speaker 5: I thought that's the way Donald played this game. He
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: was a game commander. It didn't require him to throw
• 15:19
  Speaker 5: for three hundred and eighty yards. It wasn't necessary, you know,
• 15:22
  Speaker 5: So that's there's nothing wrong with that.
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: No, exactly great because so as all right, look at
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: it a little bit. I know one thing you're not
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: going to do is tell us what John Schneider and
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: the Seahawks should do in the offseason. But I want
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: your opinion on a couple of players, because it's a
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: they have some they only have four draft picks as
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: it stands right now. We'll go yeah, yeah. Two of
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: them went with the Rashid Shiheed trade, which we assume sheh'd.
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: We're making an assumption they're going to resign him. That's
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: kind of the Leonard Williams, Ernest Jones kind of way
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: they go with it, because you know, they bring these
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: guys in the offseason, they resign them, and they did
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: that with Jones and Williams. We think that's going to happen.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: Big question. Top of the list. Ken Walker Love Love
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: is the only first round for the most part, guys,
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: you know, first round level draft pick for running backs
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: coming out. I know you haven't got too deep into
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: that yet, but ken Walker, what we saw in the
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl, Charbonet is hurt. The number may be there,
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: they may have to try to franchise him, but you know,
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: when you look at ken Walker, how important is he
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: for Seattle in terms of this offense if they want
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: to bring him back.
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's really important to the offense
• 16:24
  Speaker 5: because this offense starts with the run game. You know,
• 16:27
  Speaker 5: as you look, the reason it starts with the run
• 16:30
  Speaker 5: game too is because of the amount of under center
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: play action, which is foundational to this offense, and you know,
• 16:36
  Speaker 5: so everything works off of that. So he's a really
• 16:39
  Speaker 5: important player. Charbone is certainly not that kind of player.
• 16:42
  Speaker 5: He had a great year and he's certainly valuable, but
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: he may he's I don't know whether he'd be ready
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: early on anyway, and he's not a feature back. He's
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: a really good compliment. So you know, you need it
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: back in this offense.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: I don't usually follow the contract numbers in so I
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: don't know what that means. I don't know if another
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: team's going to pay him big, big dollars and John
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: Schneind are simply going to say, you know what, we
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: can't do that. I don't know. I don't know that.
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: All I'm saying from a football perspective the way this
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: offense is structured, because well it's not Koopiak anymore. So
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: that's another question, because they don't they don't have an
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: offensive coordinator.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Right now, right right, right, yeah, yeah, but.
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: They've got they've got a name one. And my assumption
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: would be they would try to stay in that family,
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: you know, because you don't want to start all over now,
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: because you know, people don't realize how hard that is.
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: So you want to try to stay in that family,
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: and in that family, you need a running back.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: And it's hard. Like we just just talked about, Walker
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: took a while to get to the point where he's
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: at right now. Even Sharbonay took a while to get
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: to the point where he's at before he got hurt.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: Two other guys I want to ask you about, and
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: maybe even three, but let me just start. Both Josh
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Job and Riek Wollen are free agents and it just
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: feels like they're not going to be able to sign
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: both of them. Yes, if you're looking at those two guys,
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: which of those two guys do you think is a
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: more integral part of what Mike McDonald wants to do.
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: Well, that's a hard call because I because Wolan, there's
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: not a lot of guys with Woolan's just pure athletic traits.
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: You know, he's been up and down. I thought he
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: played much better this year, particularly in the last half
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: of the season. As you know, he's had his ups
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: and downs in Seattle. Joe, I've always liked Job. He
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: gets beat once in a while, but he's an aggressive,
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: physical corner boy. You know, Joe played a lot more
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: snaps in the Super Bowl than Wolan, which kind of
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: surprised me because leading up to the Super Bowl Woolan
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: had been playing more snaps. So obviously, you know, again
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: that was a Mike McDonald decision and that's what they felt.
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: But you're right though, they're not going to be able
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: to sign both. I don't know. There's something about job
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: that I personally like based on his tape. I can
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: only give you my personal opinion. Doesn't make me right,
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: but I really like Joe. Who else could as a
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: free agent on this team.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: The other guy I want to ask you about they
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: got a handful. The other guy want to ask you
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: about it is Kobe Bryant.
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: See that's the problem when you win, and you know,
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: I mean.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Tyo Cotta is restricted by the way, so like they
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: can they can get keep him. Tyocotta is back that
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant's back that they can keep him easier because
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: he's not a UFA, but he is a free agent.
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: I don't know, you know. See the thing I don't know,
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: which is hard, is I don't know what the market
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: is going to be for these guys because we're not
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: talking about like superstars. You know, it's not like Gee
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: JSN is a free agent, you know, And yeah it's
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: and ideally they wouldn't let him get to that point anyway.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: But the point I'm making is Kobe Bryant, I don't
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: know how other teams and you know, other organizations would
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: see him. Is someone going to offer him a ton
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: of money. Now again, I thought Tyo Kata played really
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: really well when he had to play. Obviously he was
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: playing for love, not not for Brian. But I thought
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: Okanna played really really well. So you know, they they
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: could look at that and feel like, you know what,
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: we have a guy who can line up and play.
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: So but you're right, they're not going to be able
• 19:57
  Speaker 5: to keep everybody. That does not happen with Super Bowl Chamin. Well,
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: it really doesn't happen with any team if you have
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: a meaningful number of free agent starters.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Well, and that's happened with Seattle when they won it.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: All of a sudden, the Byron Maxwell's Deron Johnson's Chris
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Maragos is, you know, Malcolm Smith, all these guys and
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: Golden Tates, all these guys started leaving because they got paid.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: They came off a Super Bowl championship and they made
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: some money, and good for them, and they know that
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: along the way. I know this, I'm off next week.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: I won't talk to you next week, and I'm gonna
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: let you get sink your teeth into combine and college
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: tape and all of that, and then we're gonna check
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: back with you.
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I've been watching It's twelve receivers already. I'm
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: the last couple of days I started watching some defense.
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: I've looked at Ohio State's defense, Texas Tech defense. You know,
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: I hate these defenses that have too many guys and
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: it's just it's it's you know, it's fun, but it's
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: no fun.
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: I love.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: But that's that's our guy that we can already knee
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: deep into tape for colleges. So we'll give you a
• 20:53
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• 21:01
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• 21:06
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• 21:08
  Speaker 2: back in with you draft time here in the next
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: couple weeks. My friend, Thank you.
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: Brandy, and thanks so much. You know, I enjoy it.
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: It's great to be with you.
• 21:14
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• 21:16
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• 21:24
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• 21:27
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• 21:58
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• 22:01
  Speaker 2: weeks away Selection Sunday and ladies and gentlemen, after a
• 22:03
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• 22:34
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• 22:35
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• 22:37
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• 22:39
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• 22:41
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• 22:43
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• 22:58
  Speaker 2: I'm want to use this time and we'll just we
• 23:00
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• 23:02
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• 23:04
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• 23:05
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• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Here we go, mccron it has always complaining about, so
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: we'll get to that in a second. To wrap things up,
• 23:11
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• 23:14
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• 23:16
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• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Gary Paris is coming on later this week. We'll start weeklies.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: And someone said, that's awesome because I'm going to go
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: from my football thing of going we're studying all twenty
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: two's and dvoa's and all that. So now all of
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: a sudden, Gary's back. That means we got to start
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: worried about Quad one, Quad two and Quad three and
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Quad four wins and losses. And that's what we're going
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: to do today. Gary, how's that sound.
• 23:36
  Speaker 7: I'm ready for whatever you want. I mean, it is
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: a fun time of the year, you know. When I
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: noticed just from my own personal experiences, and not just
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: with the Seattle market, but like any market in America,
• 23:47
  Speaker 7: it picks up. The number of requests you get to
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: come on and be a guest picks up dramatically after
• 23:54
  Speaker 7: the Super Bowl because people are now turning their attention
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: to basketball, more specifically college basketball as opposed to the NBA,
• 24:02
  Speaker 7: and so now it's like folks open their eyes a
• 24:05
  Speaker 7: little bit and go, hold up. I didn't realize Arizona
• 24:09
  Speaker 7: was undefeated until this past Monday night. Miami, Ohio is
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: still undefeated. Heading into tonight's game. There's a lot of
• 24:15
  Speaker 7: really cool storylines that have been operating just below the
• 24:18
  Speaker 7: national consciousness, I think because of football. But you know,
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: we'll get well versed on them here in the coming week.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Let's start first with the big story in terms of
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: just nationwide, and that would be the freshman class byu
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: AJ Devonsa is unbelievable. Darren Peterson from Kansas, I'll let
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: you talk about him and the weirdness that is Darren
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Peterson who will probably be the number one overall pick.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Caleb Wilson just got hurt for North Carolina, Boozer at Duke, etc.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: How good is the freshman class this year in college basketball?
• 24:50
  Speaker 7: In my opinion, it's the best ever, and there's some
• 24:54
  Speaker 7: data to support that, just when you look at the
• 24:57
  Speaker 7: production from conference to conference. And I don't believe we're
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: going to have an all freshman first team All America team,
• 25:04
  Speaker 7: but we could. I could put one together for you
• 25:07
  Speaker 7: right now that that would, you know, be excellent, And
• 25:11
  Speaker 7: after all of these players' NBA careers are over, could
• 25:14
  Speaker 7: be one of those things you look back on and go, man,
• 25:16
  Speaker 7: remember that season when all them dudes were in college together,
• 25:20
  Speaker 7: we knew Darren Peterson would be great. He is when
• 25:22
  Speaker 7: he plays, but I think on some level even more
• 25:25
  Speaker 7: impressive than you anticipated. He completely takes over games against
• 25:30
  Speaker 7: you know, top twenty competition and just looks different than
• 25:34
  Speaker 7: everybody else on the court, even when some of the
• 25:36
  Speaker 7: other people are on the court are also people who
• 25:38
  Speaker 7: are going to be selected in the first round of
• 25:39
  Speaker 7: the draft. We knew de Bonson would be good. He's
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: leading the nation in scoring. He's been you know, overwhelming
• 25:47
  Speaker 7: at BYU. Cameron Boozer is probably the national player of
• 25:50
  Speaker 7: the year right now at Duke. He's been excellent. So
• 25:53
  Speaker 7: the guys we knew would be great are great. But
• 25:56
  Speaker 7: then you get a Keaton Wogler at Illinois who is
• 25:59
  Speaker 7: maybe one of the most unique stories in recent college
• 26:01
  Speaker 7: basketball history. He's a freshman. He was ranked one hundred
• 26:05
  Speaker 7: and fiftieth in his high school class. In this era
• 26:07
  Speaker 7: of college basketball, when most power conference coaches are living
• 26:10
  Speaker 7: in the transfer portal, they don't even sign or recruit
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: players frank one hundred and fifty in the high school
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: class anymore, but Illinois did, and Keithon Walger is not
• 26:18
  Speaker 7: only the best player at Illinois, he's arguably the best
• 26:21
  Speaker 7: player in the Big Ten. I've never seen anything like this,
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: a top ten team led by a freshman in scoring
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: who was ranked outside of the top one fifty in
• 26:30
  Speaker 7: his high school class. That's another great story, this freshman class,
• 26:33
  Speaker 7: whether it's what they're doing on the basketball court right
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: now or what they're going to do in June's NBA draft,
• 26:38
  Speaker 7: they are the story of this season.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Gary Parris joining US Curtsy and Nolai Brewing. We lost
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: one of the final two unbeaten teams of the year
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: this week when Arizona went to Kansas on Monday, lost
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: eighty two to seventy eight. The Kansas team that, by
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: the way, did not have Darren Peterson, as we would
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: say in the hockey world, a late scratch from the
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: lineup flew like symptoms. The weirdness it is Darren Peterson is.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know if NBA put scouts are noticing. Maybe
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: they don't care because the guy's that good. But warmed
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: up and then said, yeah, I'm not going to go weird.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: But still Kansas won, Arizona loses. Arizona is ranked number
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: two in your top twenty five and one is the
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: is the one Arizona looks like a Final four team,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: But can final four teams be teams that can't shoot
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: the ball? Because I don't think they can shoot the ball.
• 27:22
  Speaker 7: They don't even try to shoot it, and that is
• 27:24
  Speaker 7: the Achilles And if they don't get where the number
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: next to their names suggests they should go, it will
• 27:29
  Speaker 7: likely be because of that. Folks listened to now are
• 27:32
  Speaker 7: very familiar with Tommy Lloyd.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: He was a.
• 27:33
  Speaker 7: Gonzaga assistant for a long time. He has now built
• 27:37
  Speaker 7: a monster at Arizona. But it does seem to have
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: a flaw on the offensive end. And that flaw is that,
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: in this time where the emphasis on the three point
• 27:47
  Speaker 7: shot has never been heavier, they just don't take them.
• 27:50
  Speaker 7: At Arizona. They're going to try to beat you inside
• 27:53
  Speaker 7: the arc. You know, a guy like Nate Oaps or
• 27:56
  Speaker 7: Rick Patino would tell you, insist to you. Eventually that
• 27:59
  Speaker 7: becomes a mass album for you, and you don't want
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: to have a math problem in a single elimination tournament.
• 28:03
  Speaker 7: All that acknowledged, Arizona is still ranked number one in
• 28:07
  Speaker 7: the A. People didn't take their first loss until this
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: past week past Monday, and the only loss on the
• 28:14
  Speaker 7: resume is a loss inside Allen Fieldhouse to a team
• 28:17
  Speaker 7: coach by Bill Salth. They're still very, very good, but
• 28:21
  Speaker 7: you have identified the thing that I think gives some
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: people some hesitancy to flock them in as a as
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: a real national champion.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: I'd be remiss of fitting asking about Gonzaga. They're twenty
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: four and two. Are you've got them eleven in your
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: top twenty five and one? Of course, that's what I
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: go with, is your top twenty five and one. I
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: don't get about the writers. So Gonzaga, we watched them.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I watched them demolish a really bad Washington State team.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: They're awful. David Rally needs to go, but I'll leave
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: that for another day. But Gonzaga with you know, Grammy
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: ks a star and a powerful post player. And I'm
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: looking at Mark Fu's team and it's kind of lacking,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: especially you know with Hawfoutain stuff that they don't we
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: have that major star power we've had in the past.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: But they look like one of the most complete gun
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Zaga teams I've seen in a while.
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah, the star is going to end up being if
• 29:10
  Speaker 7: you if you give it time. Davis Fogel, He's the
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: next one who's going to develop into the you know,
• 29:16
  Speaker 7: top twenty pick Conference Player of the Year All American candidates.
• 29:20
  Speaker 7: You know, I was at Gonzaga San Francisco a few
• 29:23
  Speaker 7: weeks back on the sideline for CBS Sports Network and
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: I got to see it up close. But even before that,
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: just talking to people around the program, they were like,
• 29:33
  Speaker 7: he's very good, and he knows he's very good, and
• 29:36
  Speaker 7: when he gets unleashed, you know, it's going to be
• 29:39
  Speaker 7: a problem for people on our schedule. Like he plays
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: with an incredible level of confidence, and so he's maybe
• 29:46
  Speaker 7: a year away from being that All American level guy,
• 29:49
  Speaker 7: but he can take over, you know, four minute spurts
• 29:51
  Speaker 7: of games. We've seen him do that here and there
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: after the Zags just as a team, I mean, I'll
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: never understand port and loss. That was a weird night
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: and that damaged the resume and probably removed them from
• 30:03
  Speaker 7: one seed consideration, perhaps even two seed consideration. But surprise, surprise,
• 30:08
  Speaker 7: once again, Mark Fu's got one of the very best
• 30:09
  Speaker 7: teams in the country. I could see it going back
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: to the Final four. And I hope all of this
• 30:14
  Speaker 7: happens in the same year where he is inducted into
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: the National Memorial Hall of Fame, because we found out
• 30:19
  Speaker 7: this week he is a finalist, and there's really no
• 30:21
  Speaker 7: good explanation for leaving him out. I'm a big believer
• 30:25
  Speaker 7: in this, whether it's football Hall of Fame, basketball Hall
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: of Fame. Once somebody has a Hall of Fame career,
• 30:31
  Speaker 7: and if the answer to the question of should they
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: be in is yes, just do it. Just get it done.
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: We don't have to wait. Kelvin Sampson's sev seventy years old.
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: Mark few is sixty three. We don't need to make
• 30:44
  Speaker 7: anybody wait to hand them their flowers. Mark has a
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: Hall of Fame resume already, so does Calvin. I think
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: I hope they're both in the Hall of Fame later
• 30:52
  Speaker 7: this year.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, ap preach on Kelvin. I also spend some time
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: at Wazoo Montana Tech, and we were partial to him
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: out here. I know there was the things that happened
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: that now you can do in college basketball that maybe
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: heard him, but we're with you, And we talked about
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: that with our friend Mike Homberan, who's a part of
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: our radio station all the time, Like why are we waiting?
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Like what are we waiting for? All right, a couple
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: of things.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't ever want to get dark with it,
• 31:11
  Speaker 7: but like I just you know, you're not young men.
• 31:14
  Speaker 7: Nobody's promised tomorrow. And even like Pete Rose, however you
• 31:19
  Speaker 7: feel about Pete Rose, you know it doesn't matter. But like,
• 31:22
  Speaker 7: there are people who feel strongly that he should be
• 31:25
  Speaker 7: in the Baseball Hall of Fame. And if he is, someday,
• 31:28
  Speaker 7: for whatever reason, you know, allowed to be in there,
• 31:33
  Speaker 7: it will happen after his death. And that means the
• 31:36
  Speaker 7: thing that meant the most to that man, he he
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: was never able to experience in this lifetime. And I
• 31:42
  Speaker 7: got it. Flaw guy perhaps deserves to be banned from
• 31:45
  Speaker 7: the Hall of Fame forever. I'll let other people debate it.
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: My point is, I just don't like that. Robert Kraft,
• 31:50
  Speaker 7: same deal the Flaw guy. You guys can everybody can
• 31:53
  Speaker 7: debate him if they want to. Clearly belongs in the
• 31:55
  Speaker 7: Hall of Fame, not a young man. I think that's
• 31:58
  Speaker 7: kind of ridiculous. They're way they're making him.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Wait, I got about a minute left we wrapping up
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: with this. There's some out here at Washington that still
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: think they have a chance for the tournament. I'm not
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: sure how under five hundred. There's ten teams right now
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: in Jerry Palm's bracket that are from the Big Ten,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: and not even close will be Washington, Washington, USC, Oregon's
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: having an awful year at Dana Altman, who knows this
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: might be his last season. And Mick Croden is going
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: to play a nine to forty five am game at
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Michigan tomorrow and he's going to get smoked and be
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: pissed and upset and all those things. So how's it
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: working out for the college side of the four teams
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: out here going to the Big Ten?
• 32:33
  Speaker 7: I bet the bank accounts what great? But the fan
• 32:36
  Speaker 7: bases aren't that happy. And this is this is the
• 32:39
  Speaker 7: this will be the lasting takeaway from conference realignment, conference
• 32:45
  Speaker 7: expansion we used to have. And I'll be quick with this,
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: but more more power conferences slash good conferences than we do.
• 32:52
  Speaker 7: Right now. The Big Ten has eighteen teams. Everybody in
• 32:55
  Speaker 7: that league is making at least two and a half
• 32:57
  Speaker 7: million dollars, So like somebody making a lot of money
• 33:00
  Speaker 7: is going to finish sixteenth, fifteenth, eighteenth, And the fan
• 33:04
  Speaker 7: bases then won't change because they don't understand why they're
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: paying all this money to a coach who's not delivering
• 33:09
  Speaker 7: the work. But once you put eighteen teams in the
• 33:12
  Speaker 7: Big ten or sixteen in the SEC and you invest
• 33:15
  Speaker 7: the way all those schools invest in different sports, somebody's
• 33:18
  Speaker 7: got to lose. It's a zero gum, zero sum sport.
• 33:21
  Speaker 7: Somebody's got to lose every time somebody wins. And so
• 33:24
  Speaker 7: the practice facilities look nice, the stadiums look nice, the
• 33:27
  Speaker 7: arenas look nice, the checking accounts are great for everybody.
• 33:30
  Speaker 7: But are the fan bases happy? Are you having a
• 33:32
  Speaker 7: good time? Because when you get into bigger leagues that
• 33:34
  Speaker 7: are tougher and deeper and more competitive, you end up
• 33:39
  Speaker 7: losing more than you've ever lost, even if you've got
• 33:41
  Speaker 7: good coaches in place.
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  Speaker 2: Great stuff, well said Gary. We're underway. Four weeks until
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: selections Sunday, four weeks and two days to be exact.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Can't wait to keep doing this, my friend. Great to
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: have you back again this year.
• 33:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah, the best. I appreciate it.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Talk to you next week, that is, Gary Parrish, take
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  Speaker 2: Break is taking place. Let's give you Olympic hockey updates,
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: shall we? We will? U said today early this morning
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: at three o'clock our time this morning, Ellie tolven In
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Coppo coco and Finland beat Sweden four to one. That's
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: a big upset in Olympic hockey and that kind of
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: throws things into a little bit of a spin in
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: the Olympic world. So we'll keep an eye on what
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: it happens. And that's the second game for those two teams. Course,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Finland got knocked off in their first game, so phil
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: and Sweden both won and one right now, gold differential
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: does matter. Ellie Tolvenan didn't have a point, but Coppocaco
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: did in that game. I believe Coppos are tolven and
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: I'm an double check here. Then on the fly they
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: don't have time on ice. I think he's playing some
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: pretty good minutes though, if I'm not mistaken, top six
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: minutes as is Coppo, so Coppo Coco gets in that game,
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: big assists. There other games today in Olympic men's hockey,
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Slovaki over Italy three to two, no surprise, there no surprise.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Chechia over France six to three the final in that game,
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Checky is pretty good hockey team, and right now through
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: forty minutes, the favorite, the gold medal favorite, Canada over
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Switzerland three one in a game that's probably a little
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: closer than we would expect. Next up for the US,
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: by the way, they play at noon tomorrow against Denmark
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: and Oscar Fisker Mouleguard from the krackt that US game
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: three o'clock or a noon Pacific time tomorrow, a team Finland,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: by the way, ten to thirty in the morning taking
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: on Italy tomorrow. I'm sure that's seven thirty yard time.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Might have to take seven thirty our time Finland and
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: Italy noon our time, US and Denmark tomorrow, Grubauer and Latvia.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Gre and Germany taken on Latvia tomorrow. That's a three
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: am game. If you're so inclined to get up in
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: the middle of the night at three am and watch
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Groovy taken on La I've.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: Done it with the Mariners, so I'll do.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: It with Are you really good up? You're gonna get
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: it three in the morning, watch for Groovy.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: For Groovy, maybe I'll just stay up until then, you know,
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: have myself a little Friday or record it.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: That's called evidence again, can do.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: All those things along the way. So yeah, there you go.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: That's a little update from the Olympic Hockey realm of
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: things as things continue on cracking back in work work mode,
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: I should say, coming up on Tuesday, I believe they're
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: back on the ice getting ready to start the next
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: set of the season. They they don't come back to
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: play until a week from Wednesday next week, so it's
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: been a little bit of time left before they're back.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: But the players that aren't in the Olympics, they're off
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: their break early next week. I do believe MJ in
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: the midday is doing a show out at Casey. I
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: next week.
• 37:25
  Speaker 8: Yes he is, yep, nice, very nice.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: So yes, yeah, we'll have a lot of shows out there.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: On Wednesday, We're going to have.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Oh really yes, is Mike Betton out there too?
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: I believe so on Wednesday and possibly even Thursday as well.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: He will be in for you in your much sugrieved absence.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: But yeah, on Wednesday, he will be out there.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Has the staff at the thirty two been notified that
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: those two guys are going.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: Out there pushups right now? Just to be ready for it.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: There's a lot leaving out there. All right. That's your
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Olympic Men's hockey update. Women. Just wake me up when
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: we get to the semi finals, because honestly, the US
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: is that good? Okay? We By the way, coming up
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: at two o'clock. Rob Rang's going to join us. A
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: lot to discuss with Ranger NFL Combine is right around
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: the corner. In addition to that, we got some stuff
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: going on as far as the Seahawks are concerned with
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: their their roster construction and what they're going to do.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: We talked about that with Coseell earlier and you know,
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: Greg mentioned, you know, kind of what we all believe
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: to be the case that you're not going to bring
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: back both Woolen and Joe. I think that's one of
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: the bigger decisions as well as obviously the big decision
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: has to be what you do with ken Walker, Like
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: what is ken Walker worth? What is ken Walker? Is
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: it worth paying, you know, paying him money to a
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: running back like that? I don't know. To me, it
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: seems like a no brainer depending. I mean, I know
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: money comes into play. I know salary cap the Seahawks
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: have plenty of money to spend. The salary caps going up.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: We just saw the value of ken Walker, like five
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: days ago, we saw the walker of.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: The value of album that's with him.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: He loves him, He listen. There's guys that are named
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: the MVP Super Bowl and you can kind of go
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: why or how or all those types of things. Then
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: there's the performance. He put on one hundred and sixty
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: plus yards total yards including the twenty seven on the
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: through the air. But he was a difference maker in
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: that game. And he's a difference maker when he plays,
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: and he plays well and he handled the load. And
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: I know there's been concerns about injuries, but he's been
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: fairly healthy and just on and on and on I
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: just I just don't know how you don't bring him back.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: But that's one of the big decisions. Well, we'll talk
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: about all that stuff. One of the things the mass
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: ranger about is, you know, what does it look like
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: in terms of the running back draft class. We all
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: know Jeremiah Love from Notre Dame is like a stud right,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: Like he's he's gonna go like probably top five.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we're not going to battle. He's not a part
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: of the team. I hate saying we but he yeah,
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: we're out.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're out with that. And are there any first round,
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: second round, third round running backs available? We'll talk to
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Aranger about that coming up in a few minutes. Okay,
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: you know, I kind of wanted to keep it all
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: positive this week.
• 39:52
  Speaker 7: And all that.
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: We'll call it a Friday Club, but we.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: Got to mention this, and half the time, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if this stuff is real or if it's done
• 40:02
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• 40:03
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• 40:05
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• 40:12
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• 40:15
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• 40:19
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  Speaker 9: where they live and not having to adjust to the
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  Speaker 6: I'm still all out of whack.
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  Speaker 6: Patriots had to be out of whack.
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  Speaker 7: It's unfair.
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  Speaker 9: I get that people do it, but it seems like
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  Speaker 4: I won't make excuses, but you just did literally and
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  Speaker 2: So here's the thing.
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  Speaker 8: There.
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  Speaker 2: We live in a world that is East Coast centric
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  Speaker 2: in so many different ways. One of those ways you
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: hear every year when they say, oh, the games, like
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• 42:10
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  Speaker 2: them on the East Coast, et cetera, et cetera. And
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• 42:24
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• 42:26
  Speaker 3: Wait, what mc mccrud.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: Is gonna complain tomorrow? Ninety five in the morning they play,
• 42:32
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• 42:34
  Speaker 2: about the early start time nine forty five Pacific time. Listen.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go back in the Mike McDonald era. Uh,
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: these are the games that Mike McDonald's team has played.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: And I'm not going to include the Lions game that
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: was a Monday night game because that was a five
• 42:49
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• 42:51
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• 42:57
  Speaker 2: era that Seattle has had playing on the East Coast
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: or the Eastern time zone. Win at New England, lost
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: it Detroit if we want to go there. Win in Atlanta,
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: this is last year, by the way. Win at the Jets. Well,
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: I guess I can't really get people credit for that.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Just so win in the Central time zone against the Bears.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: That was last year. Okay, so what four and one
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: this year? They were perfect in those types of starts.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Win at Pittsburgh, win at Jacksonville, win at Tennessee, win
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: at Atlanta, win at Carolina didn't affect Seattle and Mike
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: McDonald going back east and playing early. So how the
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: hell is it going to is going to hurt you.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: Guys, because it hurt Dave Portnoy.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: They were there.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: They were there all week.
• 43:46
  Speaker 7: Man.
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: You get and trust me as someone who has done
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: this a lot when I say this, traveled across the country,
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: not play the game, but covered a game, much like
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: what portnited. Portnoy did, right, he was there for a week.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: We'd do that, whether it be Greg Bell or or Candata,
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Michael Sean, all those guys, we all have done that.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, back to back East coasts this year.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: And you probably were fine by Monday. I was here,
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: You were here, right, I did it all the time
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: for fifteen years. I'd come back, get off a plane,
• 44:20
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• 44:21
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• 44:23
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• 44:26
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• 44:29
  Speaker 2: in the wait for it, Mountain time zone. That's an hour,
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: not much difference, and they won that game. And they
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: won that game anyway. Dumbest thing I've heard today, Dave Portnoy,
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• 45:32
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• 45:35
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• 45:37
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• 45:42
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  Speaker 2: You fornest with you and you know, last week it
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: kind of made it sound like it might be the
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: last time we talked until we get closer to the draft,
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: and that's just that's.
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: Just not gonna happen.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Here's why I love talking to my friend Rob Rang
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: on Fridays. It's kind of like a tradition. And as
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: we've learned, Rob, I don't know if the NFL takes
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: a week off. Do they take a week off? Is
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: this kind of the week off? When does the NFL
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: take time off?
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what they do.
• 47:32
  Speaker 6: You know, it's funny.
• 47:33
  Speaker 10: It's an interview with with Mike McDonald and they basically
• 47:38
  Speaker 10: were saying, like, hey, you get the combine here in
• 47:40
  Speaker 10: like two weeks, and you just kind of you can
• 47:42
  Speaker 10: almost see him kind of just chuckle like like, you know,
• 47:45
  Speaker 10: my goodness, when you.
• 47:45
  Speaker 6: Play this long into the season.
• 47:47
  Speaker 10: Obviously super Bowl, then they really there are no weeks
• 47:51
  Speaker 10: off at this point of the you know, and and
• 47:54
  Speaker 10: the way that things are now, and so yeah, it's.
• 47:57
  Speaker 6: Basically like basking the sun. Bask in the glory of
• 48:01
  Speaker 6: the super Bowl.
• 48:02
  Speaker 10: But at the same time, turn the page because the
• 48:04
  Speaker 10: combine is coming. For agency is coming. Obviously some coaches
• 48:07
  Speaker 10: might be leaving. There is no chance, no time to wait.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: Rob for people who missed it last week, I thought
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: the stories you did on both New England and Seattle
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: and the construction of those rosters the most important moves
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: they made, was absolutely sensational Fox sports dot Com. I
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: heard a lot of people say the same thing. So
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: I'm glad we got to talk about that last week
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: before I kind of look ahead of this year's draft
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: and you know, and we're gonna we're gonna kind of
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: jump a little bit in that in just a couple
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: of seconds. Before I do that, I want to just
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: look back a little bit when it's all said and
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: done and you look back at this Seattle team that
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: wins the championship, because the last time we spoke was
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: pre title. When you look back at the twenty twenty
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: five Seattle Seahawks Super Bowl Championship roster, you talked about
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: the most important moves, Mike McDonald being at the top
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: of the list. But when you look back at just
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: how the team was constructed, is that kind of a
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: clinic on how you construct a title constructed title team?
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: Some key draft picks, a couple of under the radar
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: free agent acquisitions like Tank Lawrence, and maybe a couple
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: of trades that you know you got to take a
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: chance on, and you kind of look back Leonard Williams
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: and Ernest Jones and then obviously this year was Shi
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: she Heat. I mean, when you just kind of look
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: at the overall construction of that team, is that kind
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: of a clinic on how you do it?
• 49:19
  Speaker 10: Yeah, That's what I was thinking, is a kind of
• 49:21
  Speaker 10: a masterclass, you know, and John Shier really has obviously
• 49:26
  Speaker 10: as the reigning NFL Executive of the Year, he's now
• 49:30
  Speaker 10: starting to get the attention that he deserves. But you know,
• 49:33
  Speaker 10: I thought that Pete Carroll understandably got a lot of
• 49:36
  Speaker 10: the credits for the way that the roster was constructed
• 49:40
  Speaker 10: when the Seahawks won the Super Bowl back to twenty thirteen.
• 49:43
  Speaker 10: But I really thought that John Shier did a remarkable job.
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: Then.
• 49:46
  Speaker 10: I think that he has done a pre damn good
• 49:48
  Speaker 10: job of it, even in the so called lean years.
• 49:50
  Speaker 10: I mean, because of course, the Seahawks never fell to
• 49:53
  Speaker 10: the true basement. I mean, clearly they had some you know,
• 49:57
  Speaker 10: some misfortune go their way with some of their off picks,
• 50:00
  Speaker 10: either getting themselves injured or just not living up to expectations.
• 50:04
  Speaker 10: But I think that what which Shiers always appreciated is
• 50:06
  Speaker 10: that the you know, the most important guy in the
• 50:08
  Speaker 10: room oftentimes is the head coach and the staff that
• 50:11
  Speaker 10: they bring in. And one Seattle had a little bit
• 50:13
  Speaker 10: more consistency as far as offensive line coaches. Then I
• 50:18
  Speaker 10: think that is one of the areas in which we
• 50:19
  Speaker 10: have really seen that that he has historically gone with
• 50:24
  Speaker 10: with some some good players, they've had success other or
• 50:28
  Speaker 10: outside of Seattle, even when they had their their misfires
• 50:31
  Speaker 10: here and virtually every other position of course, they've always
• 50:35
  Speaker 10: been successful. So yeah, I think that the twenty twenty
• 50:38
  Speaker 10: five Seahawks was was a masterclass, uh in terms of
• 50:42
  Speaker 10: just marrying the coaching ability the schemes with with the
• 50:46
  Speaker 10: player personnel that Shier has always been very very good at.
• 50:50
  Speaker 10: And then as you said, I mean pulling off some
• 50:52
  Speaker 10: of the trades that he did for Leonard Winnings, for
• 50:54
  Speaker 10: for for Ernest Jones, and.
• 50:56
  Speaker 6: For uh for for Shoot Shihat.
• 50:58
  Speaker 10: I mean, the Seahucks don't go to Super Bowl without
• 50:59
  Speaker 10: play off those three moves. And all of those moves
• 51:02
  Speaker 10: were somewhat like I would say, luke warm type of
• 51:06
  Speaker 10: received by most NFL analysts across the country when they
• 51:11
  Speaker 10: actually happened, and all of them wind up playing a
• 51:14
  Speaker 10: huge role in Seawk success this year.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: Rob rang joining us Fox sports dot com our NFL
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: Draft Insider, and you've got the Bock Draft up there.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: I'm going to get to what you wrote about the
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: Seahawks because I think it's all encompassing on what I
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: also want to talk to you about, and that's free
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: agency and the decision Seattle is going to have to
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: make in free agency as we hit this offseason. And
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: because you have Seattle taken a cornerback number thirty two overall,
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: remember Seattle winning the Super Bowl folks. In case you
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: need a little reminder, that means you pick thirty second overall,
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: despite whatever you do in the regular season. So that's
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: where Seattle picks one of it's four as of right now.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: But rob, let me jump up to the top. You've
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: got Arizona taking Jeremiah Love running back. That's terrific running back.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: We talked about them all year long during the college
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: season out of Notre Dame. I bring his name up
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: for this reason. What do you do with Ken Walker?
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: Because we just saw the MVP performance we saw when
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: he was asked to be the guy, not split carries,
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: none of that, just be the guy. And when he
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: was asked to be the guy, man was he the man,
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: no doubt about it. All through the playoffs when Charbonnag
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: got hurt, this guy just flat out took over the
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: you know, the incredible first game in the playoffs, what
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: he did last game in the Super Bowl. He's a
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: free agent. Running backs depends on the on the team.
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: Excuse me. Sometimes they get valued, sometimes they don't. So
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: based on what you know about the running back class
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: coming out in the draft and only having four picks
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: and everything else, what do you do with ken Walker.
• 52:42
  Speaker 10: That's the millionaire question in my mind, and I guess
• 52:44
  Speaker 10: the most important question of this entire offseason.
• 52:47
  Speaker 6: I mean, how do you possibly left the Super Bowl
• 52:49
  Speaker 6: MVP go?
• 52:51
  Speaker 10: And it just felt like he was playing so well,
• 52:54
  Speaker 10: you know, not even just in the Super Bowl, but
• 52:56
  Speaker 10: but it feels like he's playing his best football for
• 52:59
  Speaker 10: the Seahawks over the world last month or so of
• 53:00
  Speaker 10: the season. It really feels like he is, you know,
• 53:03
  Speaker 10: developed a little bit more patience. Of course, anybody watched
• 53:05
  Speaker 10: the Super Bowl on the TV telecast, They talked about
• 53:09
  Speaker 10: his patients so much during the broadcast, and he just
• 53:12
  Speaker 10: would almost walk up to the line of scrimmage, evaluate
• 53:15
  Speaker 10: where the Patriots defense was flowing, and then just use
• 53:19
  Speaker 10: that turbo.
• 53:20
  Speaker 6: Button that he possesses to just you know.
• 53:22
  Speaker 10: Spurt his way either up the field or latterly with
• 53:26
  Speaker 10: great success of course. And so I have a hard
• 53:30
  Speaker 10: time believing the Seattle is going to be willing to
• 53:33
  Speaker 10: let him go just because of the success, because it
• 53:36
  Speaker 10: feels like he is still just really scratching the surface
• 53:39
  Speaker 10: of what he could be in this offense. You know,
• 53:43
  Speaker 10: Kubiak is obviously going to be with the Las Vegas Raiders.
• 53:45
  Speaker 10: I think there is a good possibility that Seattle is
• 53:47
  Speaker 10: going to continue to basically play the very similar style
• 53:50
  Speaker 10: of ball in the future is what they did this
• 53:52
  Speaker 10: past season.
• 53:54
  Speaker 6: So it would be difficult. And this is not a
• 53:57
  Speaker 6: terrific running back class.
• 53:58
  Speaker 10: I mean, you mentioned that Jeremiah Love going number three
• 54:02
  Speaker 10: overall to the Cardinals in that mock draft. I don't
• 54:04
  Speaker 10: have another running back coming off the board in the
• 54:06
  Speaker 10: first round, and I'm only gonna have Jeremiah Love's teammate,
• 54:10
  Speaker 10: Darian Price is the only other back that I currently
• 54:14
  Speaker 10: have among.
• 54:14
  Speaker 6: My top fifty prospects. And you know, and while I do.
• 54:18
  Speaker 10: Think that there are some intriguing players the Seattle might
• 54:20
  Speaker 10: be able to find in this draft class that can
• 54:23
  Speaker 10: play more of a one A, one B type of
• 54:25
  Speaker 10: a role, certainly not a guy that you think of
• 54:28
  Speaker 10: as a possible future Super Bowl MVP caliber player. At
• 54:32
  Speaker 10: the same time, I also think that when you have
• 54:35
  Speaker 10: an executive like John Schneider, who is as proven as
• 54:38
  Speaker 10: he is and is as willing to I think recognizes
• 54:42
  Speaker 10: the value of the running back position and how it
• 54:45
  Speaker 10: is that deflated in terms of value deflated position in
• 54:49
  Speaker 10: the NFL, that there is a number. Now what that
• 54:52
  Speaker 10: number is for the Seahawks. Of course, I don't know,
• 54:54
  Speaker 10: but I don't believe that as great as Keith Walker
• 54:58
  Speaker 10: the third was for the Seahawks during this run, I
• 55:01
  Speaker 10: don't think that he's a top five back in the NFL.
• 55:03
  Speaker 10: Maybe he's that gifted. I don't think that he just
• 55:05
  Speaker 10: should be paid top five money. And so if that's
• 55:08
  Speaker 10: what he and his agents are, you know, are are
• 55:11
  Speaker 10: going to request, and I understand why they might. I
• 55:14
  Speaker 10: think that the seahawctions should consider using those assets elsewhere.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: I'm just looking, Yeah, I'm looking through here, and as
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: I look, you know, at the at the free agent
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: running backs, for example, coming out this year, he's twenty
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: five years old. He's one of the younger free agent
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: running backs. And among the guys that are, you know,
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: twenty five or younger, he's I'm trying to see FAM's
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: even in his category. I don't think so. Javonte Williams, No,
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: I mean he'll get paid, right, Gavonte Williams get paid
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: from Dallas Aljier You No, he's a two Damian Like, yeah,
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: I just find an interesting who knows what's going to happen?
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: All right? I get all that, Like who knows what's
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: going to happen. I just to me, I just feel
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: like when he's look at the other free agent running
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: backs in the out there, Chase Edmonds, Isaiah Pacheco, Tyson Tyler, Aljier,
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: Ronnie Rivers, Damian Pierce, DJ Dallas, Michael Carter, et cetera,
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: et cetera. God, he just kind of feels like he
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: jumps near the top of the list for me, Rob.
• 56:10
  Speaker 6: Oh, no question about it. I think he's easily the
• 56:12
  Speaker 6: top of the free agent list.
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: I should mention Travis etm But yes, yes, a lot.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of these guys.
• 56:20
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, Etn and Breese Hall to me are
• 56:22
  Speaker 10: the backs that I think are You can make an
• 56:25
  Speaker 10: argument that they are are legitimate number one kind of backs.
• 56:30
  Speaker 10: And again, as you mentioned that the number that to
• 56:32
  Speaker 10: me is most important, that's twenty five years old. I mean,
• 56:35
  Speaker 10: this is a guy that still should have an awful
• 56:37
  Speaker 10: lot of tread on the tires. And right now, again
• 56:40
  Speaker 10: he is as hot as hot can be. But you know,
• 56:43
  Speaker 10: we entered this season as Zach Sharbonny I thought was
• 56:45
  Speaker 10: the more consistent all around back he was when healthy.
• 56:48
  Speaker 6: Of course, the red zone back, the third down back.
• 56:52
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 56:53
  Speaker 10: So you know, keV Walker third got twenty nine touches
• 56:57
  Speaker 10: in that Super Bowl. He very much earned MVP honors,
• 57:00
  Speaker 10: with all due respect to Jason Myers or to you know,
• 57:02
  Speaker 10: Devil with a spoon, whoever else you want to say.
• 57:05
  Speaker 10: But at the same time, that's the most touches that
• 57:08
  Speaker 10: camth Walker the third has had in his entire career,
• 57:11
  Speaker 10: barring the very last game of his rookie season when
• 57:13
  Speaker 10: he had one more touch. He has not been a
• 57:17
  Speaker 10: proven kind of a true you know vall or excuse me,
• 57:23
  Speaker 10: the tank that you kind of want the running back position.
• 57:26
  Speaker 10: He has always kind of had somebody else to go
• 57:28
  Speaker 10: with him rather than being the true bell cow.
• 57:30
  Speaker 6: And so that's the thing is, I just think.
• 57:32
  Speaker 10: That there's awful lot of NFL teams out there and
• 57:34
  Speaker 10: who are going to be scared to throw big, big
• 57:37
  Speaker 10: dollars at any back in the second NFL contract, you'd
• 57:41
  Speaker 10: be Barry Sanders all over again. And there are flashes
• 57:44
  Speaker 10: of Barry Sanders in the way that camth Walker the
• 57:46
  Speaker 10: third bounces to the outside and can make people look
• 57:49
  Speaker 10: silly in the hole. But at the same time, it
• 57:52
  Speaker 10: just think it's the way the NFL economics go now
• 57:55
  Speaker 10: is that few teams are willing to dedicate big dollars
• 57:59
  Speaker 10: to running back in their second contract.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: Rober Rang joining us Fox sports dot Com NFL Draft
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: Insider brought to my Farelius Feli's pizza. Okay, I want
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: to get down to your mock draft in Seattle at
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: thirty two because I think it's all encompassing. In kind
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: of a similar conversation, if Ken Walker is number one
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: question for Seattle hitting into free agency, number two will
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: be the free agents in the secondary. Tariq Wollan, Josh Job,
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: Kobe Bryant, Tay Ocatta are all free agents of some sort. Bryant, Job,
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: woolenall UFAs, Ocata is restricted. So you guys say, I'll
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: take in a cornerback out of South Carolina Brand and SISA,
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: But more importantly a bigger picture, what do you do
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: with that at that defensive back positions. I'm going to
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: guess you're going to try to keep one of Woolan er,
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: Job and probably Ocatta, and maybe that means that Kobe
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: Bryant and somebody else have to walk. So what do
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: you do there? And what does the class look like
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: for outside corners.
• 58:56
  Speaker 10: That's a great question. I mean, that's the thing is,
• 58:58
  Speaker 10: I do think percent agree with your assessment there. I
• 59:01
  Speaker 10: think the Seahle's and keep one corner and may wind
• 59:04
  Speaker 10: up losing Kobe Bryant because of Taia Kata being restricted
• 59:07
  Speaker 10: free agent. You know, I think that the amount of
• 59:10
  Speaker 10: money that Rik Wollen is going to likely receive in
• 59:13
  Speaker 10: free agency, just because the trades are undeniable there, he
• 59:17
  Speaker 10: is requolled like to just be the you know, the
• 59:19
  Speaker 10: the most polarizing player on the Seahawks roster from a
• 59:22
  Speaker 10: Seahawks fan perspective, but from scouts, you know, they just
• 59:26
  Speaker 10: see the unbelievable talent that he possesses.
• 59:28
  Speaker 6: So I think that he's going.
• 59:29
  Speaker 10: To get a big offer in free agency, and I
• 59:31
  Speaker 10: think that the Seahawks likely have watched him play his
• 59:34
  Speaker 10: last game uh as a member of the Seahawks. With
• 59:38
  Speaker 10: as much as it pains me to say it, because
• 59:39
  Speaker 10: I think that's well, the turnaround that he has shown
• 59:42
  Speaker 10: this year for Mike McDonald and Carl Scott has been
• 59:46
  Speaker 10: a remarkable.
• 59:46
  Speaker 6: One Josh job. But I think just think it's going
• 59:48
  Speaker 6: to be.
• 59:48
  Speaker 10: More of a you know, the player that you can
• 59:51
  Speaker 10: bring back at a much more palatable salary and still
• 59:53
  Speaker 10: plays cleaner all around ball. Brandon ce Say, as you mentioned,
• 59:57
  Speaker 10: it was my selection for seeaut number thirty two. Overall,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 10: he's six foot, one hundred and ninety pounds. He plays
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 10: the run with a grit that McDonald requires.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 6: He is still a little rough.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 10: Around the edges in terms of his you know, route anticipation,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 10: but he is a phenomenal athlete. He's going to prove
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 10: that a couple of weeks at the Combine. He's the
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 10: kind of guy that is going to go end up
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 10: going in the first round.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 6: As I feel like I say.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 10: This every year, Ian that it feels like Seattle's needs
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 10: often mirror some of the best draft classes. And while
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 10: this draft class is not really really good in my opinion,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 10: like it's average at best at most positions, cornerback is
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 10: actually one of the stronger groups. So if it's not
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 10: a Brandon Seesay from South Carolina, then on the Eastern Seaboard,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 10: then then maybe one of the Western Seaboard. One of
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 10: my favorite players Chris Johnson, the corner from San Diego State.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 10: He's not the same type of athletes as the aforementioned Sisay,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 10: but He's also six foot one hundred and ninety pounds.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 10: He also plays in quality run defense, and he is
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 10: an absolute tactician with how he sets up receivers and
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  Speaker 10: basically forces them to commit. He's that terrific short area
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  Speaker 10: of quickness and he gets his hands on the football
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  Speaker 10: more than does and so he's another one that is
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  Speaker 10: a little bit under the radar. Probably is going to
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 10: earn high second round grades from a lot of clubs,
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  Speaker 10: but the seaowts at that point if they are going
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  Speaker 10: for need. I think that it fits in very well
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  Speaker 10: with some of the players that should be among the best.
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  Speaker 6: It's still available at thirty two.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just it's the other part of the thing
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  Speaker 2: we kind of wonder, right, is this, do you do
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  Speaker 2: you value the player more in that defense or do
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: you value the coach? In other words, like, look, some
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: elite players, Devin Witherspoon is elite. We all understand that
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: Artic Jones, what he did. There's a handful of guys
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: like that, right, Bider Murphy, Leonard Williams, blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 2: But like, do you think in the Mike McDonald's scheme
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: he has that ability to coach guys up and make
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: a guy like wool and Joe or Bryant replaceable.
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  Speaker 10: I think you can Carl Scott as well. I mean,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 10: that's why cars Scott's getting some interest, you know. I
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  Speaker 10: believe by the Arizona Cardinals the defensive coordinator you know,
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  Speaker 10: and so and possibly if if Clint Kuback or anybody
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 10: else is going to hire somebody from Seattle's staff, that
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 10: carls Scott could want to be in the future defensive
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  Speaker 10: coordinator here in Seattle. Currently, of course, is works with
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  Speaker 10: the secondary. As you mentioned, I do believe that they
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  Speaker 10: they think that they can teach their the secondary play
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  Speaker 10: just because of Witherspoon and Emon Warrior and the versatility
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  Speaker 10: that they provide, the fact that you do have quality
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  Speaker 10: safety play behind them. So that's why I think that
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  Speaker 10: maybe they would go to the defensive LINEU you know
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  Speaker 10: that normally talked about before NFL teams most scouts I
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 10: talked to general managers, they're they're pretty you know, hesitant
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 10: to get that second contract to a running back. And
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 10: when all is the same, basically you draft for Biggs.
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  Speaker 10: And I think that the fact that boy Mafe is
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 10: also a free agent. You have some guys, some aging
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 10: players and DeMarcus Lawrence Echenna Nwosu on that edge roll
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  Speaker 10: as as terrific as Derek Hall was in the Super
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 10: Bowl two sacks. I mean he was an early defensive MVP,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 10: you know, candidate himself. I think that might be an
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  Speaker 10: area they go and a couple of the pass rushers
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 10: in his class and really intrigued me.
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  Speaker 6: Akeeme at Mesador.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 10: We've talked a lot about him from Miami, but another
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 10: one we have not talked about. Frankly been and remiss
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 10: and not mentioning our Mason Thomas, sixty two d and
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 10: fifty pounder from Oklahoma. He is underside six two two fifty.
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  Speaker 10: But I just thought that that Seattle lacked like a
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  Speaker 10: screamer off of the edge or true closer. That's part
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  Speaker 10: of the reason why they had to send Devil Witherspoon
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 10: on those nickel blitzes, and obviously it was very effective,
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 10: but I think if they also could use a speed rusher.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 10: And again, there is just one thing that's very clear
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  Speaker 10: to me, Ian is that regardless of what player on
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 10: defense the Seahawks ultimately are at bringing in, they must
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 10: match a certain level of physicality otherwise they're just not
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 10: even going to be a candidate for this squad. And
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 10: Mason Thomas, despite his size, you know, he plays with
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 10: that physicality, with that want to he's he kind of
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 10: wants the spotlight on himself and then again has the
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 10: speed off the edge.
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  Speaker 6: I think that is going to make him a very
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  Speaker 6: highly prized commodity.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 10: Not an early first round pick though a guy laid
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 10: portion the first, maybe top of the second. And I
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 10: think somebody has that kind of championship pedigree, that that
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 10: the eye of the tiger kind of mentality that the
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 10: Seahawks have obviously prioritized with McGill.
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  Speaker 6: But again going all the way back to Josh Shadder.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let me wrap it up with this. It
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  Speaker 2: is our good friend Rob Rang, brought to you by
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• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: check out. I'll send out a link later of the
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: columns Great Calum first round mock draft for Rob Rang.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: Is it a foregone conclusion Mendoza's going number one overall?
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  Speaker 6: I certainly think so.
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  Speaker 10: I just think that you know, whether the Raiders keep
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 10: the pick, which I suspect they will, or if.
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  Speaker 6: They trade to somebody else.
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  Speaker 10: It's just the value of the position is you know,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 10: just absolutely requires that.
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  Speaker 6: And you know, it was kind of like the Friando
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 6: Mendoza and uh and Sam Donold.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 10: I think we're near images of each other in some ways,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 10: and that at every turn there were critics out there
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 10: willing to you know what, he ready to jump on
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 10: these guys if they made any mistakes, and both of
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  Speaker 10: them continue to answer questions. Mendoza, you know, was phenomenal
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 10: down the stretch and led a team that no one
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 10: was expecting to win the championship and basically passed through
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 10: every gauntlet that was put ahead of him. So I
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 10: can't imagine this scenario, and especially in a draft class
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  Speaker 10: like this one that frankly is lacking a little bit
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 10: as far as the top end talent, that the unquestioned
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 10: top three quarterback winds up going number one overall.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, it's it's it feels like it's
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: that God who we we talked about so many quarterbacks
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: at the start of the season, all those guys that
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: fell off the face of the earth. That listen, next
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: week's Senior Bowl or not Senior Bowl combine. That's always fun.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: Once we get through that, tons of talk about I'm
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: off next Friday, but we'll start doing this again real soon.
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  Speaker 2: In the meantime, Rob, as always, I thank you. Go
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: check out the link. I sent it out yesterday on Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: I'll send it back out on the KJR account of
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: Rob Rang's mock draft and you can go through it
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: and read. It's great stuff and yeah and probably just
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: real fast rop good year to have only four picks
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: right now as it stands.
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  Speaker 10: Well, and we know Josh Shutter I means very likely
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 10: trade number thirty two overall and move down and acquires
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  Speaker 10: some more selections. But yes, I ultimately and again I
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 10: think if that was part of the reason why he
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 10: was as willing to peddle the third and fourth round
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 10: picks for a guy who is an immediate difference maker
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 10: in Rashid Shahit. I think that is recognizing the relative
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 10: talent that's coming up is going to four is going
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 10: to allow you either be more or less aggressive and
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 10: making trades of draft picks, and then again just kind
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 10: of recognizing the positional value of guys. That's why I
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 10: do this even with only four selections right now.
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  Speaker 6: And I still think this is going to want.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 10: To be a fascinating draft class to really jump into
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 10: it when it comes to Seahawks.
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  Speaker 7: Rob.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, it never hasn't been in all the
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: ars we've been doing this, it's always been good. It's
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: we might go in there thinking we'll see and it
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  Speaker 2: ends up being great for some reason one way or
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: the other. And that's why we love having you on.
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  Speaker 2: We'll talk to you soon, my friend.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you, looking forward to it as always been.
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  Speaker 2: Just real quick. The NBA All Star weekend is this weekend,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: and you know our policy here we refuse to talk
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  Speaker 2: about the NBA less it's relevant to us. I don't
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: know if it's relevant to us this weekend or not.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing. The Commissioner will speak tomorrow about what
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  Speaker 2: one o'clock Pacific time. Yes, Adam Silver. I just sometimes
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: I read the tea leaves. Think you know there was
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: a thing last week for our Monday I guess it
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: was this week the beat writer or a NBA writer
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: from Dallas posted something that's going to be a great
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: year for Seattle and just kind of a vague tweet.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: Whatever last week, we could go today. Actually, we were
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: hearing the story about the governor speaking to Adam Silver
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: at Governor Ferguson speaking to Adam Silver, and it was
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: phrased to me by a Ferguson staffer on Saturday. When
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: I finally got a whole side person, then it was
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: just literally what you've probably seen by now. Introductory meeting. Hey,
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: how are you. I'm Bob Ferguson, I'm a Sonics fan.
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  Speaker 2: Let me know what we can do very much an
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  Speaker 2: introductory phone call. I think I've told you guys this
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  Speaker 2: a million times, and I don't need to be the
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  Speaker 2: one telling you because it's a common sense. But I
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: can tell you just from the inner workings of things,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: the governor and or the mayor are not the people
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: you need to worry about here. Now. If we had
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: a building issue, if we had a building issue or
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: an occidental street issue, then that's a different story. But
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: in terms of we already have a building, that's that,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: they're just there window dressing. So whether it be mayor Wilson,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: governor Ferguson, they mean nothing to us introductory meeting. What
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: we here tomorrow may be more of the same, maybe nothing,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: They may be not. A lot of times those press
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: conferences are very much controlled what questions are asked. I
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: know this. The Seattle Times is not staffing it. Tim
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: Booth has been covering the story. It does a great job.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: Does Tim phenomenal job covering this story. One of the reasons, frankly,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: he was hired by the Times is to cover this
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: particular story along with other stuff that he can do. Baseball, football,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: he just finished and he's actually well with Kate does
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: a great job with hockey, but that's kind of his
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: one of the things he got hired for. He's not
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: even covering it. They're not sending him down there for this,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: which is interesting to me. Will there be something said,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: Will there be anything in tangible coming out of it?
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe we'll all be surprised and they'll say, hey,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: we're on a path towards expansion. It could be we're
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: putting the committee together officially, although there already is a committee.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: It's the two committees that have that aren't called expansion committee.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: One's a finance committee. So who knows where we're going
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: to be. Sounds more like March and or summer League.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: In the middle of the summer, we'll hear something tangible.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: With all those timetables in place, we're still probably looking
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: at a couple of years out, yes, for a team. Earliest,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: more than likely would be twenty twenty eight, unless it
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: gets done in the next couple weeks. But there's no, no,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: nothing that says that will happen.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: No. And then there's always the question of emergency relocation.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: And that's a part that's going to be an interesting dynamic.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: There's a lot more smoke coming out of Portland these
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: days in regards to the building. The Modus Center formerly
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: the Rose Garden, thirty year old building thirty yeah, thirty
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: years thirty two years old, actually building that's down there.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: They don't like it. New ownership coming in Seattle. I've
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: said this is zillion times, and I truly do believe.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: I believe it more every day. We are still upon
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: in this process. We are, and until they figure out
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: the Portland building situation, the situation in Memphis, maybe even
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: New Orleans, we are a more important piece not having
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: an NBA team than having an NBA team.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 3: Yes, we are the threat one other on.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: The end, but let's hope, let's cross our fingers. Trust me.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: My vacation starts in twenty eight minutes.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: Not that anyone's counting.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: Not that I'm counting, but my staycation, I should say
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: more specifically, but that's the best kind of in now.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: Twenty seven minutes from now. I will be paying attention
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: at one o'clock tomorrow to see what he says. I
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: will be too, because there may be something that comes
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: out of it. Finally, the NBA is broken. It is
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: so broken right now. I don't know if you guys
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: saw this. I didn't mentioned the headlines. Probably should have.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: The NBA fined the Utah Jazz five hundred thousand dollars
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: for effectively tanking. They trade for Jaron Jackson Junior. He
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: played three quarters set out the fourth quarter in a
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: game that, by the way, they won. The reason they're
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 2: being fined if you needed any other reason to hate
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: all things Oklahoma City, if you needed any other reason
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: they hate Oklahoma City. I didn't, we do, We don't,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: but they just keep adding on the report's coming out
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: and talking to my boys in Salt Lake. The Oklahoma
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: City Thunder have a Jazz first round pick this year. Now,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: the Jazz have a ton of picks, by the way,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: over the next couple of years, but they have a
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: Jazz first round pick this year that is top eight protected.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: They want the Jazz to be decent enough where that's
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: not a problem, and they get that pick and they
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: can add. And the rumor is what most people believe,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: is that the Jazz got thrown under the bus and
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma City went and told on them to the principal
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: thus and they got fined five one thousand. Ryan Smith
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: is the owner of the jazz Man. He had some
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: pointed things to say on social media about this. I
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: don't know what what the NBA is doing. You're gonna
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: Ryan Smith a game, but the Ryan Smith's the guy
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: you want. And there's a plenty of tanking going on.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: Let me let me reference you to Kawhi Leonard and
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: other superstars that obviously take so many flipping' maintenance days,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: load management days and all this. Yeah, the Jazz are
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: tank and one hundred percent they're tank and just like
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: the Spurs tank, just like the Oklahoma Sea Thunder tank in.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 3: The past, quite prevalent.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: It happens all the time. Yes, don't pick and shoes
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: now in the middle of the season. You wait until
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: the end of the season to do that. And be
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: is a god. It's a product I just hate with
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: every fiber of my being. But yet I'm also hoping,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: like hell, it comes back really soon, So I'm very torn.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: Anyway, that's well, that's passion.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: You know. Apathy is the opposite of love, not hate,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: and so passion.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: You still have it?
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: All right, We're good, yes, firewin.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: Let's go.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: Well, a lot of people are asking about Anders and
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: we are hoping that baby Hearst is on the way.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 4: And then there was one text hold on here who
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: was actually wondering if Anders was specifically actually.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: Going to name his child.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: His firstborn it was Keith Miller, obviously, because he has
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: the best text. Ander's really going to name his son
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 4: after a Super Bowl champion Seahawks player, I like even Warriors.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: Andrews would probably name it after a Mariner's player first
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: and a crack and player second.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I would think that's where his banhood lies.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: It could be a man, you.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, it could be guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: gonna be sacked. I'm gonna be gone when the baby's
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: born more than likely, because we could do my favorite show,
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: and that's the name Manners a baby for us. I
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: personally like ups Guy after the father. But you know,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: we can name it whatever you want, maybe the Amazon Guy.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know whatever you call it.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: I ever tell you what my sister said to like,
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: someone asked her where she got her curly hair, because
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: she had, you know, this dark curly hair and the
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 4: rest of us just didn't look like that.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: And someone asked her, where did you get that hair?
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: And she goes the mailman because someone had made that
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 4: joke in her presence.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they when my son was born, as in Salt Lake,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: and I'm driving back and forth from the hospital and
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: those guys are doing the show of name Vanessa's baby,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: and they gave away so like jass tickets or something
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: for it. Literally and literally the winning name was ups
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: guy after the father. So it was fantastic driving along Ago.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's coming in from the two oh six.
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• 1:17:02
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• 1:17:06
  Speaker 4: way they schedule these games.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: I don't blame these players for taking time off.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: Why do't NHL players do not take time off? Is
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: it not more of a physical game? They both play
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: eighty two games. By the way, Okay, just all I
• 1:17:15
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• 1:17:18
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  Speaker 2: he missed when his baby was born.
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  Speaker 3: Weird, and that is a very valid reason. Let's go
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  Speaker 3: to some good stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I know you eat.
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  Speaker 2: I eat pretty good. I will have no excuse to
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  Speaker 2: get every day into the gym as opposed to three
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: or four times, so that'll be good. And then but
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: see here's my problem with that. Although I looked at
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: the weather, the weather's crap it is, it's next week,
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  Speaker 2: I was my normal m O. I get up, go
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  Speaker 2: do a little old man workout, old man workouts over smoothie,
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  Speaker 2: Couple of beers.
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  Speaker 3: You can come right up here.
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  Speaker 2: No, I'm not doing that. I'm not coming. I can
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  Speaker 2: tell you right now. One thing I am not going to.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: One thing I am not going to be doing is
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: coming into the city and taking that long commute that
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: I normally have to say, I am not doing that.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: I'm going to lunch with my daughter on Monday, which
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: you can't wait.
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  Speaker 3: Love that.
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  Speaker 2: I will, We'll be doing that. So but yeah, I'm
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: excited to listen. So I think Greg Bell's filling in
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: for a couple.
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  Speaker 4: Of days, yes, and then yeah, we have Greg.
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  Speaker 3: Bell on Monday and Tuesday.
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  Speaker 4: Then we have The Captain Live from thirty two Bar
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  Speaker 4: and Grilla on Wednesday, and.
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  Speaker 3: He'll be in Thursday as well. Location to be determined.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Captain. Yes, he's going to breaking down every shift
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  Speaker 2: of every Olympic hockey game for you. I can't wait.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: Good job, Go get him, Captain. Captain's on the call tonight.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: By the way, I do believe for the Thunderbirds and
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: the Tri City Americans on Fox Plus. Love it, So
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: you go check that hockey game out. Go get him Captain.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: He'll do a great job as he always does. All right,
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: that's it, Fan's gonna join us. Come up next. Final
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  Speaker 2: Score dot TV is back Friday night. You can catch
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: the Mentor League Championship live broadcast and the Final Score
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  Speaker 2: dot TV that tried the Rainer Beach Vikings and the
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: number one player in the nation, is it Tyran Tyron Stokes? Yeah,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: Achilles Rainia Na, Yeah, and crew they take on Brian Webster,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: j Isiah Bowman and the ode fighting Irish.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 8: Who you're rooting for in that game?
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: They're Irish. Guy, that'd be uh, that'd be a boy.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: Jason Kerr and the Irish. And they played a two
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: point game last time. Very close. Yes. Yeah. Tuned in
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: Friday night for both Mentor leagu Championship game Eastide Catholic
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: versus Roosevelt six on the girls side and the O
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: Day versus Rainer Beach at eight on the boys side.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: Final score dot TV. Yeah are you going, I'm taking
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  Speaker 2: the kids? Where's the game at?
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  Speaker 4: Uh?
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  Speaker 8: Pacific?
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 7: Really? Good luck at it?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say it wouldn't even matter, Like if
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: you're playing either of the gyms, you're not getting in
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  Speaker 2: right at A little bigger, a little bigger it holds
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  Speaker 2: like nine hundred. I think, yeah, that's sound right, sound Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So that's that's mentally championship. I don't want to speak
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: out of turn for my other employer, but maybe that's
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: when you have that level of game. Maybe that's the
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: thing we should have at CPA tonight because it's dark, right,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: bigger yeah, yeah, because you know you could just close
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: the cost A lot to open up CPA, though you'd
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: have to well you know what I bet if I
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: bet if the metro League was smart, see how public
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: schools were smart. And that's a big if. That a
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: quick call to toddlight Wiki and that would happen because
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: last I checked, they're investing a lot of their own
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: money in that new stadium.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's true.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: Anyway, that's something to look ahead to next year because
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: those metro League games are always this time of year
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: Metro League basketball.
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  Speaker 11: As you and I both know, you can just sit
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 11: and sit in the up to your living room and
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 11: watch watch final.
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  Speaker 2: What the hell do you have there?
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  Speaker 6: I don't tell.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't get this.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: I didn't get you like this. I didn't get the
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: lettermans jacket.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: Huh wow, this is this is.
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  Speaker 11: Probably really it's an all black with black sleeves lettermary jacket.
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  Speaker 11: I'd say two thousand ish, okay twenty basically vintage. This
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 11: is oh you know, I truly vintage with the old
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 11: kids R nine to fifty. So I decided I'm going
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 11: to a high school game and I'm gonna wear my
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 11: letterman jacket. And that leads me to a question. I
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  Speaker 11: already discussed this with the Boss because he has a
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 11: couple of kids that recently graduated in high school. So,
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  Speaker 11: you know, I have a son that is a letterman
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 11: in high school. And I was like, hey, you want
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 11: you want me to get your letter jacket? He was like, sure,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 11: that'd be cool.
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  Speaker 8: They are sweet.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: I go down to Fife there and you know he's
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 8: he's the goes the same school that I did.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm like, oh, it's cool.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 5: You know you have one.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 8: I have one. Maybe we'll get a picture and stuff.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 8: He got it in March of last year. How many
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 8: times you warn it?
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: None, that'd be zero.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 11: And I asked him, say, hey, hey, Bud, you know
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 11: Dad's wearing the old letterman jacket.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 8: They want you want you bust out your letterman jacket.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 11: And he's like, He's like, Dad, why would I wear
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 11: a mountain your letterman jacket to a Rainier beach games
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 11: like repping your school, repping your team, you played basketball,
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 11: you played basketball.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 8: He's like, no, I.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: Can I can see not wearing it to that game
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: as a high school can do you want to wear
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: it to his high school football game? Cause that I
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: don't get because I remember it's not that long ago
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: that I was going to high school football games and
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: watching my kid and everybody else.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 8: And you wear a letterman jacket.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, So he got his after his freshman or sophomore year,
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: one of those two, and he'd wear it on occasion.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: But like we're but here's the problem, Like he played
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: the two main sports. You would wear it at a
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: football so he couldn't, but he would wear it. He
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: wore it a handful of times. Now we actually I
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: just had this conversation. It's funny bringing it up, like a
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago, because then he was a COVID.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: His senior year was COVID. But before senior year, like
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: his letterman jackets pretty playing right now it's got like basketball, football,
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: I think academic or something else on there, right, and
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: then after that there's other stuff to put on there
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: like all conference yea, yeah, yeah, captain, a bunch of
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: other things. And then he actually ran track through shops
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: last year. I said, do you want me to go
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: get all done up? He goes yeah, whatever. Maybe, but
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking to myself, you know what, in twenty years,
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: you're gonna want that, Yes, like when you're Dick's age.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 8: But you're not gonna wear it when you're forty.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: No, but you're gonna want it because I know, like
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: I have a couple of friends that have, like you know,
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: like mine is the most plain, basic thing. I don't
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: think I never got a jacket. I think I just have.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: I just have a letter. I'd like the letter I
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: let jacket.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 3: I have like a bunch of letters in a case.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: I just have an oh somewhere at my mom's house.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: Like literally, that's all I have.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 11: But I think you should put all on this and stuff?
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 11: Should I put his patches? Like he's all he's gotten
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 11: on call conference the first duo. Think what you think, dude,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 11: I'm not gonna spend fifty bucks if you're never.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 8: Gonna wear the jacket.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: I think you put it on. I think you do
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: an and now it brings me maybe I'll do this
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: in the near future. For him is because his so
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: his girlfriend went to the same high school. More than
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: likely they're going to get married. Okay, okay, they both
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: were good athletes, both play callege, but they were both
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: really good athletes and both good suits. She's got a
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: ton of stuff I think on hers. I think at
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: some point he's gonna want that because there is a
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: little competitive nature between the two of them. So I'm gonna,
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: A just do it a couple couple.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 11: I find a girlfriend for him that has a bunch
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 11: of patches on her jackets.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: And you should get no. And I think, I think,
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: what the point is this? I think you should get
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: the stuff done because he's not ware to just take
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: it down there and get it done.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Done. By the way, the best business in the state
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: is whoever owns that that store. In my life, it's
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: like the the only one left. It's a monopoly. They
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: have a monopoly on let them as jacket Well, you know.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 8: Why because people don't wear them anymore. So all the
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 8: other ones could.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: You go to When you're coaching hoops Mount Rainer, do
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: you see kids wearing letterman jackets in the stand? Very rarely,
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: my guys. So my guy's five six years removed, And
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: how prevalent was it. It was really prevalent. It's just
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 2: my last half decade, like a Tahoma.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 7: Like.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: I don't think I ever went to a football or
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: basketball game didn't see a ton of kids wearing them
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: all the time, you know, four nine, four, five one? Yeah?
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 8: I mean, what's going on with the letterman's jackets?
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: You have kids?
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 11: Are you a kid or you're recently graduated? You have
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 11: kids in high school? Are they wearing them? If not,
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 11: why not four nine, four or five one? I need
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 11: to get to the bottom of this because it's pissing me.
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 4: I will I will say every Koog that comes back,
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 4: where's their letterman y?
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 11: The Seahawks had championship Letterman's jackets.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 8: I even showed Dixon to the Predus. I can't look
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 8: at that. Hey, hey, you know what, Sam Darnold's cool
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 8: in the first letterman jacket?
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 3: Why are you?
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: I don't think letterman jackets have gone out of style.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: I think they've always been cool. And tell me what
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: people say later. You know what I have? I have
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: a jacket like that from one of the hockey teams
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: I work for. I'm I'll have to wear that in there.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, do it?
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 11: I'm not the most comfort It is the.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 8: Greatest Northwest jacket.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: It's a wintertime.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 8: I wore it every day in high school.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: The chances we'll get one of those again here never Okay,
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: all right, big guys off today.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 8: Huh, I'm sniffing, you know, I don't know.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 11: Parade a little much for Softie, I'm telling you right now,
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 11: a little much.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: He in the proud tradition of the Gros. God bless him.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: He set that ups like yesterday.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 11: Vay case we can have God blessed Dave, Softy Mom.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 11: The Gros was the best at that chip off the
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 11: old black like you just knew when.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: The Gras is going to be sick the next day.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: And guess who has has taken over that mantle for him?
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 2: All right, what do you got coming up?
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 8: We got Greg Bell is going to join us.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 11: We'll talk about the you know, the all the money
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 11: being doled out by the Seahawks. What's the latest on
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 11: Ken Walker? Where do we think that's going. Kurt Warner
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 11: is going to join us. Kurt's a part of Final
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 11: Score dot TV. He'll join us at six forty. Leading
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 11: up to that, Rainier Beach and Kurt with Kurt, Kurt
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 11: and Kurt spent all week long in Santa Clara. The
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 11: other Seahawks legends, so we can tell us stories about
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 11: who he is with you, bred Breedla Millan is flying
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 11: home as we speak.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 8: He is going to join us for the back half
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 8: of the show at five o'clock.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 2: Have a great time.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 7: Thanks man.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 8: Appreciate for the mild mannered and marginally objectionable e Inverness.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: This is paddle day, saying so long everyone,