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Back on the football show, North Jersey sports.com's original
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multimedia series talking all things football across North
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Jersey. This is a season 13 episode 5.
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Things are flying along. I am Corey Doviak being joined
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by my full panel of North Jersey football insiders.
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Welcome back to the venerable 1. He is Jimmy Avatable.
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What's going on, Jimmy? Hi, good to be back.
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A couple of big parochial games last week and we've got a couple
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of public big ones this week, so looking forward to that.
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Yes, and we, you know, just looking back at the games that
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were this past weekend, we don't have a lot to talk about,
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although we will do it because you guys were at some of the
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biggest big boy games of the weekend.
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But we do have some great stuff to preview this week.
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But the man who the trifecta Jimmy, you know, like it, they
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you know, it means different things in different sports.
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But when you're talking about high school football, it is a
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guy who goes on a Friday night, well, on a Thursday night, but
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not even counting that on a Friday night to a varsity game
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on a Saturday morning to a freshman game, on a Monday
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afternoon to a JV game. He's a head Husky.
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He's a Pope of the Cardinal of the Westwood.
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He's a honorary Bulldog. He's a Ramsey Rammer.
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He's so many things. He is Brian.
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Carl. What's going on, Brian?
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Hey, Corey. Hey.
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One game you missed in the mix there Saturday afternoon, Bobby
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Maines and I Coach Maines and I were able to head down to Caven
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Point in Jersey City and see a really good game down there too.
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But looking back on the weekend, Corey just thought just two
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really good game, parochial games, very competitive right
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down to the wire. And obviously we'll talk about
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Bosco a little bit and Bergen, the crowd, tremendous.
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Before we're going to get into that for sure, I want to get the
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full Bryant Carr experience. So, so just like last week, did
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you go to a Thursday game? Yeah, wait a minute.
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Yeah, I got to bring you up to date on that.
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I was able to go to Bergen Pack and angle it.
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I went to Bergen Pack to see a concert.
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One of my favorite bands was playing a band called Styx.
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If you've heard their a lot of their good songs.
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They have some great music and they put on a tremendous show.
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A sell out too. So I go to all the sell outs,
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Corey. I go to all the big time.
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Well, how about a sport? Bryan Carr Bryan Car going to
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see a band whose all time hit is too much time on my hands, which
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could certainly sum up so that OK so Thursday night you're
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you're seeing sticks there you you you you stood up and you
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danced to Mr. Roboto and then. They played that one too, of
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course, a lot of the hits, Babe, you named the hits.
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They played them all about 15. Sorry, they played them all.
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But then, you know, I was really getting warmed up, right?
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That's what it was all about. It was, you know, Jimmy and
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Bobby and I, we were up there very early.
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That's about 4:00. Yeah, wait, first of all, let me
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set it up a little bit there somewhere.
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I don't know what it was Wednesday or Thursday.
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A a Mystic goes out across social media.
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Do not even try to park at Don Bosco this weekend for the
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Bergen Catholic game. You won't get anywhere near the
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campus. And if you're looking for
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suggestions, forget it. You're on your own.
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So you take it from there. Brian, what did you do?
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What time did you get there? Give us the lay of the land.
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Well, Corey, we, we, we tried to, you know, request parking
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and we were accommodated when we got there.
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You know, we pull out our North Jersey sports press passes.
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That really gets us around. So we were able to, we were, we
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were able to get into a press parking lot, not the main area
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and it was a good place to be. We just passed the main
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entrance, got up there and it was very relaxed for us.
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So we thanked them for that accommodation.
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So we didn't have to, you know, you know, park on Route 17 and
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go through the shopping center like probably many, many other
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people did. But we were able to get in there
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and get out of there. We got up there plenty of time.
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And it really, you know, if you go up there early, you get to
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really appreciate how the crowd fills in.
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And, you know, Jimmy will talk about it later.
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I'm sure Jimmy's got a few comments to talk about the
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amount of people that were around the field.
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But, you know, the game was pretty exciting.
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Bosco, I mean, Bosco, Bergen, that's all you got to say.
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Bosco, Bergen, these guys have played each other so many times.
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You know, with Bosco having lost, I think it's four in a row
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and Bergen having won 28 in a row in New Jersey.
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So this this was the game to be at and the game to see.
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I mean, like, like we talked about at the rail polls, the pan
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game last a couple weeks ago, last week.
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You know, it's too bad somebody's going to lose.
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You know, Bosco did enough. I think really did enough.
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They scored two touchdowns in the second quarter, jumped out
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to a 14 nothing lead. They they scored on a long
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drive, then they get a short field score the second one.
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Now they're up 14 and kind of like whoa, watch out.
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But Bergen fought back and credit they were able to score
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before halftime go in, they missed A2 point conversion score
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team six and third quarter they dominated.
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They really held the ball. But the problem being with them
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too many penalties. Jimmy could talk about that
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penalties and just could move the ball, but just didn't
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finish. They did get a third quarter
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field goal to make it 14-9. But kind of the big key thing
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with them, they were driving late in the fourth quarter to
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take the lead and just penalty, I think couple penalties.
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They were down inside the five. They ended it inside the five on
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4th down. And credit to Bosco.
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Bosco then took the ball and they ran it on Bergen.
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So they really did the kind of thing that Bergen does to
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people. They ran the ball.
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So this is the way it was 2022. If anybody remembers, I'm sure
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Jimmy does, same thing happened. Bosco went to Bergen and beat
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them pretty soundly and everybody and then we go into
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the finals, everybody's like what's going to happen, What's
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going to happen? And Bergen was able to dominate
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them in a final at MetLife that year.
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So you know, but still, you know, it's time, you know, when
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you win that many games in a row, it's going to happen
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sometime that somebody's going to find you beat finally beat
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you. But getting out of here by the
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way, to round trip this whole thing, we easy access out.
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We were back down loose 17 pretty quickly.
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I don't know what it was like for everybody else there because
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there was a big crowd. We figure about 6000 people.
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Let Jimmy have a few words here. Yeah, Jimmy, you first of all
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usually always do a great job of breaking it down.
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So why don't we talk about the game action 1st and then I want
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to get your perspective on the atmosphere and everything right?
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You know, I think, I think Brian hit it on the head.
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I, I think going in the game, I still believe Bergen is the is
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the better football team. Not that nice.
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I think Bosco played a very smart game.
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I thought they played as close to their capability as they
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could. Bergen Catholic in my opinion
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played AC minus game that night. Brian mentioned 13 penalties,
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which every time you you, you felt like they were going to
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take a command that a game they've got hit with a 10 yard
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penalty, holding penalty, a unsportsmanlike penalty which
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which really, really hurt them. But Don Bosco at the end of the
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game started to drive with six minutes and 40 seconds left on
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their own 4 yard line up 14-9. You kind of said to yourself,
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well, you know, Bergen has done a nice job in the third quarter
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defensively. If they can get a three and out,
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you're punting from your own end zone.
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You're probably going to get a short field and you could, you
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could really see the path from Bergen Catholic to win the game.
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You know what, give credit to Don Bosco.
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They ran the six minutes and 40 seconds left.
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They ran it all out, Corey. They picked up, I believe four
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first downs. Burton never got the ball back
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in. Hey, you know, that night it was
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it was Don Bosco's night. Congratulations to coach
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Sabella. His defense played very, very
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well. And you know, we're going to you
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know, The thing is, and we were talking about this in work
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today, Corey, it's almost these games, these parochial games
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have become, for lack of a better word, I'm I'm trying to
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come up with a word, but it it it it, it almost seems like it's
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it, it really doesn't matter. I.
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Was going to say, I guess Savannah Bananas baseball game.
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It's a great atmosphere, it's fun, it's everything but it it
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it doesn't matter because it's just a one off.
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They're all making the playoffs and they'll play a game that
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counts later on down the season. Yes, you know, the better team
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will walk out the, the, the, the champion when it matters in
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December. You know, I thought, I thought
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Bosco did a good job defensively.
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I think Bergen's tally O'faro, their quarterback, the
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sophomore, if if you'd like to see a good young quarterback
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that can can really throw the ball.
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The ball just jumps off his hands.
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I think Bergen also Brian drops 7 or 8 passes in that game,
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which you know, is not usually Bergen Catholic.
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I think it'll much like 2022 Brian.
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I agree with you. I think this is, I think I, I, I
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would have loved to have been a family in that film session
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Saturday morning when Coach Vito got him because, you know, they
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kind of, and again, Corey, no disrespect to Don Bosco's
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effort, they played very well. But I think, I think Bergen kind
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of handed them the game that night and Bosco took advantage
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of it. Yep, Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, they could have easily fumble or thrown an interception
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or a pick or whatever and and given it back.
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So they played clean. Did they have it?
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I don't even think they had a turnover, right, Bosco?
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Did they turn the ball? Around they did have well that
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was another big that was another big play, you know in the in the
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third quarter where Bosco saying that the quarterback threw a a
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an errant pass that one of the defensive backs and probably in
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midfield from Bergen Catherine dropped.
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I mean he had he had the interception he had a lot of
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real estate down the sideline. You know, he, he might have set
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him up, you know, at the 2025 yard line, but it was one of
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those nights, you know, you, they didn't take advantage that
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the penalties, the you know, they had a couple of false start
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penalties, they had a couple of personal fouls.
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And you know, it's just very, very tough to win big games when
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you when you do that. No doubt.
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All right. So as far as atmosphere and
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everything else, I mean, you know, what were your impressions
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of that? Well, I I think you're hitting
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on ahead the Savannah bananas. I think that's a perfect, you
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know, was, you know, you, you felt you were in the, in the
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circus. I mean, big crowd, you know,
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they mentioned on Wednesday or Thursday, hey, don't even try to
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park on campus. And, and they do have, they do
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have an extended parking lot up there at Don Bosco.
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They're, you know, upwards of, I would say 350 to 400 parking
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spots. But apparently it was more
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important to have the giant tailgate up there, which wiped
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out all those, you know, wiped out all those parking lots.
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You know what happens if your, your grandson is playing in the
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game and you're, and you're an older, you know, you're maybe
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you're senior citizen. Where were you going to park on
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Route 17 and walk walk through? The Woods.
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Were you going to were you going to get dropped off at the base
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of of at Don Bosco and and walk through the lower parking lot up
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the hill into the onto the field?
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You know, I it's become Corey and you know me.
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I'm a non public person. It it's become a complete
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circus. You know, I'll give you another
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perfect example. Brian did the change for our
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freshman game on Saturday morning.
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Game was at 9:30. I pulled into Paramus Catholic
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at about 6:45. Do you believe there were
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already 5 or 6 cars from the pole at 6:45 tailgating in the
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back of our parking lot? That's AM AM AM AM.
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The one with the sun. Yeah, I mean, where, you know,
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where, where are we, what, what are we doing?
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You know, like, and you and I know you, you, you're into the
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experience of, of the high school game.
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This, this has gone way, way above when any you know which
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when I started coaching football 30 years ago, that this was that
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this if you would have told me this is where we're at now,
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where you have entitled parents that are tailgating 456 hours
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before a football game, I I would have said I would have
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said no way. Well, there's no, there's no I,
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I think what I find is that there's no firewall left between
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parent and program. You know, there's no yeah in
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between. It's just, yeah, you know, you
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know, my son's on the team, so. You know you, you got your
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flags. So so am I.
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Yeah, you got your, your school flag.
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You got your red, red cups. It's just you got the, the, the,
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the apparently the tailgate at Don Bosco was unbelievable.
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The crowd was nice. It was electric.
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You know, like Brian said, they had upwards of almost 6000
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people. But the one the one spot 2
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spots, I think they really failed miserably was #1 the
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sidelines that as the game grew on, there was a a fence.
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But Don Bosco has like I think a couple entrances to the field. 1
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is opposite the scoreboard that I it did.
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And Brian tell me if I'm wrong. They did not appear to be a
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security guard at that fence that get that fence was open.
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Right. I think it was on that it would
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be the north near the North End zone kind of by the visitors
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tent at that end zone down there.
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I didn't really look closely, but I was hearing from people
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that there was nobody there, and then there were.
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There was nobody there. There was nobody there, Corey.
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As the game went on, there were hundreds, if not 1000 people on
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the sidelines, both sidelines from 25 to goal line.
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The back of the end zones were packed.
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And you know, I, I don't know what's what's more sickening to
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me. The fact that there was no
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security there. And at some point, no one said,
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hey, we got to, we got to, we got to stop this game or at
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halftime, we got to clear the sidelines or the fact that
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people think. That's.
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OK, they're entitled to leave the leave their seat in the
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bleachers and the stands, walk down the stairs and just walk
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out on the field and stand on the sideline.
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There were hundreds, There were hundreds of grammar school
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football players in their jerseys.
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There were parents, there were grandparents on the sideline so
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much that you couldn't walk. And they were very, very lucky,
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both of the the people on the sidelines and Don Bosco, that
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there wasn't a play that went out of bounds and somewhere that
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were severely hurt. Yeah.
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I mean, that's only the luck of the draw.
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I mean, yeah, this it's crazy. It's crazy.
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I mean, I, I don't want to, I'm not going to do it because I do
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it all the time. But I'm, I'm not going to get on
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the old soapbox. But I will just say we are so
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far away from the, you know, the educational mission of high
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school sports and, you know, at Arrochio's now, though, that's
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what it is. So in, you know, in some ways
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I'm like, OK, have at it. That's that's that's what it is.
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Another thing, another. Thing can't spill down into the
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publics. I mean, it's going to or I don't
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know. I mean, they you just don't have
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the same level of interest I think anymore in to to make that
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kind of wildness happen. So I think, you know, they're
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they're seeking out that experience both through elevated
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play because they have the ambition to be college football
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players and and college football and the parents of college
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football players. So good on you.
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I'm not saying go for it. You know it's.
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It's the Florida State game. They got upset by Virginia.
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Right, 19 people. OK.
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Did you see that scene at the end of that game?
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19 people. Were taking old Yeah, including
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a football player from Florida State.
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It was nearly trampled while while while the crowd went in.
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Now Fast forward to the end of the Bosco game.
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Right. OK, Bosco wins.
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They right away. Instead of shaking hands,
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immediately a bunch of their kids run to their to their and
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into the to the end zone by the scoreboard where the Bosco,
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whatever they call themselves, were there that big crowd of
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students. I think some of the buying
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credit to the Bosco coaches who were pushing the kids back to
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shake hands, doing the right thing.
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Yep, once that ended. Yeah, once that ended, there's
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more. Yeah, you.
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Know. Yeah.
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So what happens is then when that's done, now all of a sudden
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they run back over there and the Bosco student section leaves the
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bleachers and they run on the field.
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Yeah. It it's at a point where you
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know, what are we doing OK, And you know me, I've said this for
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years. If you're not a player, you're a
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fan. You're a student in one of these
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schools. Go to the game, enjoy yourself,
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root for your team, but realize one thing.
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You're not part of the game. Yeah.
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OK, you're OK, but but but you know these schools are promoting
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the experience, Yes, that you're part of the game and you're the
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brotherhood. And where's this no say in the
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stands? You're not part of the game now.
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People might disagree with me. People might say, Jimmy, you
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know, you're old fashioned. You're this.
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That's my, that's, that's how I feel.
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Stay in a stance. Couldn't agree with you more.
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All right, that's that's that should not take away from the
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fact that it was a 14 to 9 game with Bosco beaten Bergen for the
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first time since 2022 and establishing themselves as the
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front runner here in the big boy division in non public.
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But somebody else might have something to say about that
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bride, because as you said earlier, on Saturday in the
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sunshine, you made the trip down to Hudson County Saint Joe's,
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Saint Peter's Prep a classic. Yeah, really good game.
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One of the things going into this game, I hadn't really seen
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much on shooting champion's prep yet.
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So it's kind of interesting in that we saw Joe's play against
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Cardinal Hayes a couple weekends ago.
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But great game. Great game here again.
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You know, great game here again. Very competitive football on
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both sides. Some excellent talent.
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I got to say one thing. I, you know, Joe's wasn't able
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to come out with the win at the end of the game.
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Basically what happened, it's close game.
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We're at 2821. Joe kicks the ball punts because
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they get stopped midfield. They kick it down to Saint
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Peters. I think there was even a penalty
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there. They were able to get the ball
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out up to the 20 yard line and credit to Saint Peters, drove it
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down the field 80 yards, scored the touchdown.
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What do we do? We want to win.
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We go for two and they go for two and win it.
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But really? An excellent game, very
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competitive game. I know the quarterback for
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Peters, really good talent. Tyler Bell, 17 for 23167 yards,
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2 touchdown passes. Solid, solid game for the
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quarterback. He's very fast, he's quick,
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makes plays. They've got some nice running
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backs. But before I forget this though,
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a kid from Joe's, Keyshawn Bryant, he took after Peters
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scored their first touchdown. He returned it.
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No, I'm sorry, he got a four yard touchdown.
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My bad. Then later on, Peter scores.
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So it's like a back and forth year.
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Peter scores, Joe scores, that's Keyshawn Bryant for a run.
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Then Tyler Bell runs it in for a score.
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Then on the kickoff and swing kickoff, Keyshawn Bryant runs it
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for 75 yards for a touchdown. He had two more touchdowns in
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the game, so he scored all the touchdowns for them.
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Great game for him. The team overall did very well.
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It's one of those things, again, somebody's got to lose.
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One thing we'll mention two players injured for Joe's, their
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quarterback, starting quarterback Lamar Best.
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And also as coach Augie Hoffman would say, Nate Bailey is the
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glue to the team. Nate Bailey was out.
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They both got hurt last week. In last week's game.
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They were out there on the sidelines supporting the team
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but weren't playing. Quarterback Mason Geist came and
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did a good job. He was 12 for 14185 yards, so
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threw very well as the backup quarterback.
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So, you know, like we said before, there's a lot more for
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football to play for both of these teams.
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This is just like the warm ups they're going to go in the next
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month throughout October. These teams are all going to be
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playing each other. So it's going to be a slug fest
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and we'll get to, you know, into November and then we'll sort all
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out. They'll put them in order of
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ranking and then they'll go have at it again.
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But so some really good football.
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I thought it was a great game. We love close games that go down
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to the wire. That's what I do especially I
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thought it was a great weekend and I was excited coming out of
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the weekend. And you know, again, one other
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thing too, Corey, I'll have to mention a great day today over
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at Paramus Catholic. We saw DePaul play.
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That's the future. Young Frankie Moreno from his
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father, you may know his father is principal at Rutherford High
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School, long time coach up at DePaul.
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So the future is bright and it's good to see the young kids play.
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The freshman at JV and you know, Paramus Catholic looked very
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good today to the JV crew did very well, just you know, gave
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up one more score right in the game.
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So it's great to see the kids. It's all about the kids to me,
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Corey. I just love sports, love to see
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and compete, and it's great to be on the sidelines and seeing
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all the people that we get to see on the sidelines of each
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game. Corey.
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I yeah, I mean, there's nobody with the passion of the hope of
23:02
the Husky, of the bulldog, of the ram.
23:04
But my question to you is, you know, Saint Peter's Prep now.
23:08
You saw probably the four best or what, you know, Yeah, the non
23:13
publics between Bergen, Bosco, Saint Joe's and Saint Peter's
23:16
Prep. You saw Bosco win, you saw Saint
23:20
Peter's Prep win and Saint Peter's Prep, you know, coming
23:23
off of 1 and 9 in 2023, four and six last year.
23:29
Then this year, you know, started out with, you know,
23:32
they, they beat Union City. You know, they have a couple of
23:35
public schools on their schedule and you're like, oh, maybe yes,
23:40
you know, Shabazz Union City. But now with back-to-back wins
23:43
against Al Barton and Saint Joe's going at the Seton Hall
23:46
Prep. I mean, what do you think of
23:47
Saint Peter's Prep as far as, you know, talent relative to the
23:51
rest of the teams with the, you know, they say you want to play
23:55
down to 1 state champions, so they do that in the big boy
23:59
division. Where do Saint Peter's Prep?
24:02
Where do where do you think they fit in as far as those
24:04
contenders go? Are they one?
24:08
Sure, definitely. I think they're one of them.
24:10
You know, you've got like we know Bosco beat Bergen, so
24:13
that's one of the contenders. Bergen obviously 3/4 time state
24:18
champ. They're the other Peters.
24:23
You know who else is out there in this, you know, left in that
24:26
group? That's that's probably the
24:27
three, the three biggest, you know, that are.
24:31
I don't know if anybody else can compete with that right now.
24:33
I think Del Barton is a little bit down.
24:36
They're not what they've been. They're having an off year very
24:39
young. I understand.
24:39
I haven't seen them play, you know, again, young there too, as
24:44
well. And but yeah, those three I
24:46
think are the the top teams. And you know, Corey too, is talk
24:50
about being healthy. Healthy is the other thing too.
24:53
You know, a lot of the schools, you know, you, you, you know,
24:56
you can't afford it. We're starting to see that
24:58
little bit of public school. So I don't want to keep, I want
25:00
to jinx people by saying this because I don't like to talk
25:03
about injuries and because you don't want to jinx most people.
25:07
But that's a key factor. Any school, any public schools,
25:10
even more so than the Catholic schools, parochial schools.
25:12
But you know, if you can keep people healthy, that's the key
25:16
to being successful. But you answer your question,
25:19
those are the three teams, Corey Bergen, you know, Bosco Peters,
25:24
and if there's somebody else who may sneak in, we haven't seen
25:28
Joe, Joe, Joe Joe. That's number four.
25:31
So there's four of them in there in the mix.
25:34
Jimmy, you. Know what, though, having this
25:35
having this conversation, though, and again, like Brian
25:38
said, DePaul, I mean Bill Barton seems to be young.
25:43
Seton Hope prep seems to be young.
25:44
But then you know, is is even the top of the non public's
25:49
pulling away when you talk about Bergen Bob?
25:52
I, I, I think so, Corey, I, I think it's, it's ketchup.
25:56
I think it's the four you guys mentioned and and everybody else
26:00
trying to play catch up. I mean, you look at Paramus
26:02
Catholic, for instance, the schedule, they played their one
26:05
in four. They might be the best one in
26:07
four team in the country. They were taught they were
26:10
leading DePaul at halftime last Friday.
26:13
It was, it was tied up going into the fourth quarter.
26:17
They were driving deep in the pole territory down a score down
26:23
6 and and fumble going in. They also played Iona Prep, who
26:28
was the defending New York State champion.
26:31
I mean, Saint Peters again, and that was the that was a six
26:35
point game in the fourth quarter.
26:37
So they're you know, they're they're A1 in 14 that if you
26:41
know, they played Saint Thomas Aquinas this week, then they
26:43
have some from from Laura Dell coming off a buy off a loss.
26:48
That should be an interesting thing.
26:50
Then they have Don Bosco. Then they have, you know, Dell
26:54
Barton. So you know that schedule if if
26:57
Param and also throw Red Bank Catholic into the mix there too
27:01
with Paramus Catholic. So you know, if they can, if
27:04
they can possibly beat Saint Thomas Aquinas and and Red Bank
27:10
Catholic, they can be a two seed and and non public Group 3 and
27:15
and would possibly set up a a final with the pole.
27:18
You know, for Paramus Catholic, it's it's they are playing catch
27:21
up. They've been in in in all the
27:23
games they played and they just got to find a way to get over to
27:27
hump in those games. Jimmy, they need to get, they
27:32
need to get to the easy part of the schedule, which will be the.
27:34
Plans, yeah, the playoffs might be, you know, might be Saint
27:38
Mary's in the first round or, you know, it's something,
27:41
something else. I I, I got to mention one thing
27:44
about, you know, Paramus Catholic, Marco Green, their
27:48
senior quarterback who was in the program as a freshman, their
27:52
freshman quarterback as a sophomore and a junior.
27:55
He sat behind Crew Cologne, a quarterback that transferred in
28:00
and in a day and age, Corey, when you know kids are running
28:04
for the door if they don't, you know, if they don't start this,
28:07
get sat there as a sophomore and junior, he filled in half the
28:11
year last year for poof alone when he broke a collarbone.
28:16
And I tell you what, he's actually played incredibly well
28:20
in their five games second quarter last year against the
28:23
pool. He actually separates his non
28:26
throwing shoulder. He played the whole game with
28:29
it. We saw him Saturday morning at
28:32
the at the fresh regame. He couldn't even lift his arm.
28:36
So you know, he's he's certainly with a lot of things that are
28:40
going wrong today in high school football.
28:42
He's one of the He's one of the kids you're root for.
28:46
Well, that's a good story to hear.
28:47
I'm happy to hear that. That's good.
28:49
All right, so that's the big boys top to bottom pretty much.
28:53
Let's talk about some of the other things that went on this
28:55
past weekend. And again, you know, you hate to
28:58
be beaten a negative drum, but I just did a little research going
29:02
through all the scores from the Super Football Conference and
29:05
now I'm taking out the Ivy League.
29:07
So non Ivy League Super Football Conference public school teams.
29:15
This past weekend there were 12345 games out of the however
29:22
many that were played. And there's a lot, there's a
29:24
hundred schools in the conference and there were five
29:27
games that were one score games, what you would call close.
29:30
Hoboken beat Glen Ridge 21 to 14, Kittatinny beat Wallkill
29:34
Valley 1413, High Point beat Newton 3533, Roxbury beat Mars
29:40
Most 1613 and Mendham beat Warren Hills 3227.
29:45
If you listen to that list, there are 0 Bergen County Public
29:50
schools that do not play in the Ivy League that played in a
29:53
close one score game last week. So you know, it's just another
29:58
example of where we are in high school football in Bergen
30:00
County. I mean, I don't even know what
30:03
point that makes, but well, I don't want to say what point
30:07
that makes to me, but I think it's, it's pretty
30:10
self-explanatory. There is, there's just not the,
30:12
the separation is parity. Parity or parody is the
30:16
question, I think. But you know, I, I don't even
30:20
know. I, I, none of those games I know
30:22
anything about. They're all Bergen County games.
30:24
I mean, none of them are Bergen County games.
30:26
So to find the good ones, you got to dip down into the NJIC,
30:29
which we often do here. And there were a few good ones.
30:33
I would love to be able to have a searchable database where we
30:35
could go back and say the last time. 2 Bergen County High
30:39
School football public school teams played a three nothing
30:42
game, which was the case when Rutherford improved to four and
30:45
O with A30 win at home against Glen Rock.
30:50
Right? That's crazy.
30:51
I mean off the top of your head, do you ever remember seeing
30:54
another 3 Nothing game? No, and that's what coach Steve
30:58
Dunn said the same thing after the game is like, have you ever
31:01
seen a game that's three? Nothing.
31:03
It's a baseball score, you know. Or you know what do you have a
31:06
double and two RBI's in a home run?
31:09
You know, especially. Like the smaller schools in the
31:13
NJIC, like field goal kicking is not always.
31:16
It's one of the things I love about small school high school
31:18
football. It changes, you know, It's so
31:19
much changes the math and the the whole ethos of the game when
31:24
you don't always have a reliable kicker.
31:26
I don't know if or Glenrock do in this instance this year, but
31:31
so many times it changes the the way the game is played.
31:34
And for Rutherford to make good and hold on, that's awesome.
31:38
Yeah, hey, Graham Gordon, Graham Jordan with a 30 yard field goal
31:42
for Rutherford to win. In their other games, they were
31:45
scoring 30 and 30 points a game. I think they would be Pompton
31:49
Lakes the first game, 20 something.
31:50
There's nothing. So you know, we expected, we
31:53
thought the score was stuck when we were watching for updates.
31:55
We didn't what's going on? It was online, it was on, it was
31:59
on TV and they were just struggling moving the ball up
32:02
and down the field. And at the very end, I saw the
32:04
end where they Glenn Rock threw a long pass and it got
32:09
intercepted by Rutherford. The quarterback looks good.
32:13
Coach Dunn. I asked Coach Dunn about the
32:15
quarterback and he reminds them of last year's quarterback.
32:18
It was Nick Adami who was their quarterback, also a baseball
32:21
player with Glenn Rock. He's now graduated.
32:24
The new player in there this year, the quarterback Brendan
32:27
Burkhart, 12, he was 14 for 24174 yards, but he had three
32:32
interceptions. So looks like the Dogs took
32:36
advantage of some interceptions to curtail some of their drives.
32:39
I think they moved the ball a few times against Rutherford
32:42
during the game, Coach Dunn said.
32:44
But we're looking forward. Corey, we talked about this
32:46
before the show started NGIC. There's a lot of matchups this
32:49
coming up week where there's a number one seed in a division is
32:55
playing either the two or one cases or three and two and three
32:59
of the conference three of the divisions there.
33:01
It's one versus 2. So these will decide who gets
33:04
that playoff berth into the NGRC playoffs because four teams get
33:08
it the winner of each division. So we've got the this game
33:13
Rutherford will play against Cresskill Emerson at 3:00 at
33:17
Tryon Field in Rutherford. So that's one game.
33:21
Another game talking about NGRC playing on Saturday, family 3:00
33:25
and that's also homecoming as well.
33:27
Homecoming. I like that.
33:29
Do you know? Do you know why the Sats?
33:33
Sats too, OK. SAT and then the homecoming,
33:38
Yeah. Huge of Saturday games and
33:41
you'll have a great crowd there for that.
33:43
That'll be I bet you. They fill the house.
33:46
They try on field for sure. I think they always say Jimmy
33:49
reminded me that they usually play a Saturday game, usually
33:53
during the day because they have lights and can play at night.
33:55
But I think a few years ago they also played at noon.
33:58
I remember they're going through a game there on a Saturday, may
34:00
not have been SAT day. So yeah, that should be a good
34:04
one to see the young puppies. They call him Coach Dunn.
34:06
He's got 3 sophomores. You got Johnny Giulia, you've
34:11
got Quinn Weber we've talked about and we got my the other
34:14
guy, which is Will the Thrill Holman, will the Thrill Hill to
34:18
Holman. So you got 3 sophomores that
34:20
have been doing a good job that are helping the team.
34:23
And Miles Balkan is the quarterback and he last game he
34:27
had a really good, I think he had four touchdowns on that, not
34:30
this game, but the one before this, he had four touchdowns.
34:33
So they have the capacity. So by the way, also on that game
34:37
too, Glen Rock is defending champs in their division.
34:41
So that was a big game last year.
34:44
The Dogs lost to them in Glen Rock on a field goal, long field
34:48
goal. I think they lost by a point.
34:50
So hey, you got to win by a point.
34:53
They won by three points, you know, so you can see the dogs.
34:58
When you say they're the puppies, does that mean you wear
35:00
a small T-shirt or you just go with the flow?
35:04
No, no, we're going to coach Maine.
35:07
Discuss. We have to wear our Rutherford
35:08
gear when we head down. I have a couple of shirts, so I
35:11
will probably wear a Rutherford Bulldog shirt.
35:14
Not, you know, not. I'm not trying to, you know, put
35:18
it in any, you know, Cresskill, who's the next town for me.
35:21
I'm not trying to say hey, but you know, why not?
35:24
You have to live up the hill from Cresskill.
35:25
I don't have any Cresskill gear so I couldn't put a Cresskill
35:28
shirt on or Emerson Cresco. Emerson.
35:31
I have mute. We did hear from Mike Corsets,
35:34
the head coach of Woodridge over this past week.
35:37
He was he listened to last week's show and promised to get
35:40
the swag that has been so sorely missing in the North Jersey
35:44
sports.com closet for the last two years.
35:46
So maybe if you put the word out there about you need, you need
35:49
some Cresco Emerson gear, maybe, you know, miraculously we'll see
35:52
a selfie of Bryan Carr in 1/2 yellow half red T-shirt this
35:57
week. We can all.
35:57
Look forward to that. Well, you know what happened is
36:00
Beth Del Vecchio retired this year.
36:03
We never, we never went to Beth. I'm sure Jimmy could have gotten
36:06
one from Beth. They they worked together for a
36:08
long time. So.
36:10
That could have emptied the closet, you could have helped
36:11
clean out the closet, but I'm sure there was some nostalgic
36:15
memorabilia in there. All right, so more from the NJIC
36:18
Park Ridge 28, Pagoda 16, which sets up Jimmy an interesting
36:22
one. This week, Park Ridge is going
36:24
to host Woodridge, with an NJIC playoff berth pretty much on the
36:27
line. Yeah, I, you know, I, I think
36:30
whoever wins that actually wins the division.
36:33
Yeah. Woodridge, you had Coach Carbone
36:36
on last week while I was out on assignment and you know, they
36:39
were on roughshod pretty much through that schedule so far. 5
36:44
and O you know, their first two games low down in Elmwood Park,
36:48
they they manhandled, then they beat Saint Mary's and whenever
36:53
one of the small publics can beat Saint Mary's, it's
36:55
obviously accomplishment. They beat last week they beat
37:00
Walland said. You know they are, they are very
37:03
exciting offensive team with Rios, their quarterback,
37:07
Scalera, Icovino, Melvin, their tight end, defensive end off
37:15
defensively. They've been shutting up people.
37:18
I think this Park Ridge game will be a little bit more of a
37:21
test for them. If they can get to the NJIC core
37:25
semis, that would be a major accomplishment.
37:28
Yeah, no doubt about it. Andrew Carbone was a great
37:32
listen last week. I hope people had a chance to
37:34
tune into it. And and also I would went down
37:37
to Woodridge the day after we take that show last week because
37:40
I had to do some other stuff. And I was talking to Mark
37:42
Sinclair, the athletic director, and he shows me a video of
37:46
Andrew Carbone, who's now in the building teaching at Woodridge.
37:49
And it was, I guess teacher Appreciation day or whatever it
37:52
was. But he they called it, Pardon
37:54
the Interruption. And he barged into classes with,
37:58
you know, football players in tow, walking into classrooms and
38:02
saying to teachers like, Hey, it's teacher Appreciation day.
38:05
And this player, you know, named you as a teacher who has been a
38:11
positive influence in his life. I mean, I, I should put it out
38:14
on our Twitter to maybe get it a little bit more pub.
38:17
But what a great thing. I mean, the teachers, you could
38:19
just a look on their faces like, you know how it is.
38:21
I mean, teaching is a tough job. And somebody barges into your
38:24
room for the express purpose of saying, excuse me, you're doing
38:28
a heck of a job. I mean, you can imagine the the
38:32
goodwill that that endears in the high school environment and,
38:36
you know, again, getting back to the educational mission of high
38:38
school sports. To me, that's it.
38:41
But you know me, I don't want to get on the the rant A Roo, but
38:45
Park Ridge against Woodridge this week in Park Ridge.
38:49
That should be fun, bro. Is that on your list of things
38:52
to do or what? What is your schedule this week?
38:55
Well, Friday night we've been talking about it.
38:57
Now Friday night is a, a big game in the, the bigger boys,
39:02
little bit bigger. We're we've got Old Japan
39:04
traveling up to Northern Highlands, both teams
39:06
undefeated. We know just last week we saw
39:09
Ramapo play at Old Japan and now you know, they, they're going
39:13
through a gauntlet. Old Japan now has to go play
39:16
Northern Highlands, who's undefeated and a they're some of
39:20
the biggest guys that we have seen on the offensive line.
39:23
They've got a lot of skill, their quarterbacks, wide
39:26
receiver, defense, they've got it all right now going.
39:31
They just went and took care of business at Union City.
39:34
And they're I think they're ready to welcome into their
39:39
place. And then they have this game
39:40
with all the pain on Friday night.
39:42
And then in two weeks they will be playing their arch rivals
39:47
Ramapo and they'll host them as well.
39:49
So there's some big games here. That's Friday night for sure.
39:53
And then back to the Ng. I see Corey, we're going to head
39:55
down at 3:00 in the afternoon, go down and see the Rutherford
39:59
Bulldogs hosting the Cresskill Cougar, Emerson Cavos, they'll
40:06
be playing them. That's.
40:07
Going to be hard to get all that on one T-shirt, Brian, I'm
40:09
sorry. I'm not sure how it goes.
40:11
I'm not sure how they put it all together.
40:12
What? Are we running around the side
40:15
and down the back? Yeah, so.
40:17
Yeah, that's what I'm looking at going going over there going
40:20
Rutherford for Saturday at a 3:00, but I don't I one other
40:24
game of before we get away from the NGIC.
40:27
The defending champs will host Hasbrouck Heights Butler at the
40:32
blue turf up in Butler. They're right only four and O
40:36
this year and taking care of business all the way along and
40:40
they will be playing a very good Hasbrouck Heights team.
40:44
It depends what you hear from some people say the Heights is
40:47
the best team. You know, until you beat the
40:49
Champs, the Champs are still the best team.
40:51
So Heights has one loss right now.
40:54
They will. They'll have to go to Butler to
40:56
play them. Four of that should be the
41:00
division crown if if they can take care of that one there.
41:04
So like Butler on the blue turf. I've heard good reviews.
41:08
They're playing similar. Got a good quarterback back this
41:11
year, New quarterback, big line, got some receivers.
41:15
They're going to be tough to beat heights.
41:17
Michael D Napolitano, tough kid, runs track guy.
41:22
Nico, I forget how you say Nico's last name.
41:24
The quarterback. Tough kids too.
41:27
So Heights got a bunch of tough kids down there and high school
41:30
play them tough and it should be a fun game.
41:32
And you know, as they say, I wish I could be in more than one
41:34
place at once, and that would probably be another game to be
41:37
out of if I wasn't up in Allendale watching the
41:40
Highlanders and their Golden Knights.
41:44
Crazy when you said back into the NJIC, I thought you were
41:46
going to talk about the Tiger Lions, pal Park.
41:50
Listen, I, I, I'm the eternal optimist and I know that pal
41:53
Parks Lash Leonia Tiger Lions are going to turn it around, but
41:56
it's been a rough go at O and four in the season here.
42:00
Just, you know, to just to tabulate the scoring.
42:03
It's 163 points against 25 points 4 and they, you know, a
42:11
bulk of that coming this past week in 47, nothing lost to
42:14
Lyndhurst, which has now won four straight games.
42:16
The great thing about it is, you know, all of these this
42:19
craziness with, you know, northing numbers and making it
42:24
fair in the playoffs. Now, Pal Park is not going to
42:27
make the playoffs, but if they did, they would be in North One
42:31
Group 4 or North Group 4. So they might play like if they
42:37
ever, you know, had a season where they, you know, nipped
42:40
Weehawken by a point and then got past Elmwood Park on a late
42:45
2 point conversion and then, you know, ran a winning streak and
42:48
snuck into the playoffs as the 16th seed, They would probably
42:52
play like in Northern Highlands in the first round that, you
42:55
know, like, we can't just say, hey, Pal, Park barely has a
42:58
program. Let's just put them in North one
43:01
Group 1 or whatever N Group 1 where they belong.
43:04
But you know, who's going to fight their battles.
43:07
And the other thing I wanted to mention is just a quick dip into
43:11
the Ivy League. Belleville is 4 and O this year,
43:15
having beaten in the last two weeks, they beat Demarest 2726
43:21
came down to the last play of the game.
43:23
Belleville held on. And this past weekend they beat
43:26
Cliffside Park slash Richfield 36 nothing.
43:29
Which means in the last two weeks they beat the two teams
43:31
that played in the Ivy League championship game last year.
43:35
And not that it's important at all, but Jimmy, you know, not
43:39
even in our coverage area in Essex County, but Belleville
43:42
Four and O and, you know, the, the football program for the
43:47
Bucks, you know, breathing, which is a positive sign.
43:51
You know, when when I first started coaching, Corinian and
43:55
JL Belva was one of those teams that you'd go play there on a
43:59
Friday night down at the high school with the big concrete
44:03
stadium stairs and, and, and it was it was always fun because
44:08
you know, back then you didn't play a majority of your games on
44:10
Friday. You know, whether you whether
44:12
you came out with a win or not, Belleville were always tough.
44:16
It was always a tough game. You come out beat up, but you
44:21
know, a lot has changed, as many towns have.
44:23
The town has really changed. You know, it's it's been a
44:29
wasteland. They're in the they're in that
44:31
Ivy League core. Therefore, no one of our friends
44:36
of North Jersey sports.com Anthony Source keeps talking to
44:41
me about Belleville. Belleville won again.
44:43
Belleville can be undefeated. And and it's just, you know,
44:48
like I joked around and I said, if a, you know, if a tree fell
44:51
in the forest and you weren't there to, you know, what did it
44:54
really happen? And you know, listen, it's
44:58
keeping programs alive barely, you know, a good for them.
45:05
If the tree falls in the woods North Jersey sports.com We'll
45:08
talk about it at the end of football show.
45:10
So I'm not playing the season so right.
45:14
All right, so here you know. A couple of the games card,
45:17
couple of the games I'll mention.
45:19
One of the teams this week. Yes, yes, go ahead.
45:22
No, no, no. The other one was another team
45:25
doing very well, Hoboken Kuborkowski 5 and O.
45:30
They will be at Verona this week, so you know, they haven't
45:33
played the biggest schedule there.
45:34
Most of the teams are about 500 or below.
45:37
So you know, Verona three and two I think will be a little bit
45:40
more of a competition for them. So I'm sorry, Verona 22 and
45:44
three right now. So hey, continuous success for
45:47
Joe and everybody down there in Hoboken, you know, the the Red
45:51
Wings, you know, the program's been a little down and that'll
45:54
bring them up. A couple other things Back to
45:57
Group 2. Westwood had a really good game.
45:59
We didn't mention this before. They took my Huskies and and no
46:04
surprise, Westwood just being the better team here, kind of
46:08
dominated from the beginning. They were out, got out there
46:11
early. Stevie Klein early touchdown and
46:14
then they were up by 2-3 scores and quarterback Bruno Vega had a
46:18
great game, threw for 100 yards. He had two touchdowns.
46:21
He rushed for 80 and a touchdown.
46:23
So, you know, Stevie's got some help and they're on their way.
46:28
I think the big game there, another moving forward on the
46:31
17th of October, they will, Westwood will be up at Ramsey.
46:35
Ramsey is doing very well at 4:00 and 1:00.
46:38
They just beat Pascack Hills 27. Nothing.
46:41
This past week, they were out to 20 at the end of the first
46:44
quarter. Justin Salvata, the quarterback
46:49
is doing very well. A lot of touchdowns, throwing
46:51
and passing and they're playing defense.
46:54
They we always remind them that they better play defense there
46:57
because defense wins championship.
46:59
The other one I got to say too, Ramapo came off their tough loss
47:03
against Old Japan right down to the wire.
47:05
They took care of business over Montclair 47.
47:08
Nothing. So they've kind of straightened
47:10
the ship. But Ramapo will have a tough
47:12
match with a Group 5 team team. They're at PCTI, Passaic County
47:16
Tech, a Group five team. If they could win that, that'll
47:19
really help them a lot in terms of PowerPoints now that you
47:23
know, they've lost the old Japan game.
47:25
But that gives them a lot of points to help.
47:27
And then like I said, they're going to have Northern Highlands
47:29
coming up later in October. That was my couple of things
47:33
mentioned. Yes, a good call on all of that
47:36
stuff. And, and Montclair, I mean, it
47:37
was a, a pretty, it had the potential to be a pretty cool
47:40
story last week with Montclair now coached by, I would like to
47:45
say a football show Jimmy, but maybe not really.
47:50
One of the one of the really good guys and guys coaching.
47:55
Former athletic director at Ramapo, former state champion
48:00
coach at Clifton, Ronnie Anello, who played at Montclair.
48:05
So he's trying to bring that program, obviously Montclair,
48:08
one of the one of the biggest, biggest programs, yeah, in the
48:13
in the history of New Jersey football.
48:16
And and they're struggling right now.
48:18
Another, another town, Corey, how things have changed a little
48:22
bit. They're struggling trying to get
48:25
that junior program back in control.
48:28
I mean, for a school like Montclair not to have a freshman
48:31
football program, that kind of tells you what, you know, what
48:36
they're up against. And and they're starting a lot
48:39
of young kids that are starting a lot of sophomores.
48:42
So, you know, hopefully in a couple years, with some hard
48:45
work, they'll be Montclair will be back.
48:49
Yes, and I would invite Ronanello on the show, but he
48:52
would say no because he because he always says no and whatever,
48:57
but that he was, you know, back in at the round of hotel this
49:01
past weekend and you know, he took one on the chin, but could
49:04
have been a good cool story and love Ronanello.
49:07
Good dude and wish him well with that Montclair program that he's
49:11
trying to bring back. I don't know if I have anything
49:13
else here. Here's the last thing.
49:15
And we talked about this a little bit before the show.
49:17
So the state of public school football in Bergen County and in
49:22
the surrounding areas. So let's say like the old N 1
49:26
grouped the the old N 1 bracket, which was yeah, the old section,
49:31
which would have been Bergen, Hudson, Passaic and Sussex,
49:36
right? So if you were going to do the
49:39
North Jersey sports.com. Old.
49:43
N 1 section Top five Where would you?
49:47
Let's hear it. Public schools.
49:48
Jimmy, where would you? Go right and right now you would
49:51
go, I would go Old Japan, 1 Northern Highlands, 1A Ramapo,
50:00
and then you got to really start thinking right.
50:06
I mean, Wayne, the other one, never.
50:09
Wayne Hills, Wayne Hills, You know, Wayne Hills.
50:13
Wayne Hills. Wayne Valley.
50:14
Yeah, but you know, I think 6 through 50 is a tie.
50:20
It's. Like, you know, you could throw
50:22
what you could throw the next echelon.
50:24
You could throw Ram Westwood, you can throw Ramsey, you know,
50:29
but I I Yamala, I think I think those top 4, though, you know,
50:34
Wayne Hill's an interesting story.
50:36
Obviously with Coach Olson, the dominance there for the better
50:40
part of 20 years. Coach Demakoff wins the state
50:43
championship with the with the Oil move in transfer.
50:48
We're suspended. You're not suspended.
50:50
We're going to the lawyer. They witnessed the Hayax, the
50:54
the Jokos since then. They I remember going to a game
50:58
with Brian. Was there a a consolation game
51:02
on a Thursday night against Belleville.
51:04
As a matter of fact, I think there was about 35 people in the
51:08
stands. They've seemed to put the pieces
51:10
together again. They're undefeated that they had
51:14
a big win last week against Caldwell.
51:17
Not so much the fact Corey, that they won the game, but 35.
51:20
Nothing was a was a little bit of an eye opening to me.
51:23
They they're going to go down. They're going to play their arch
51:26
rival Wayne Valley, who's got one loss this year.
51:30
Always an exciting game, always a competitive game.
51:34
Yes, and the son of long time Ramapo girls volleyball and boys
51:39
volleyball coach Dave Van Hook. His son is a wide receiver on
51:45
that Wayne Hills team and I wish him luck.
51:47
And also because I only know because I I did the Ramapo
51:52
volleyball pictures last Saturday and Dave Van Hook
51:54
wasn't there because he was at West Point with his son, who was
51:57
an invited, you know, recruit to go watch the game against North
52:01
Texas last week on Beautiful. Saturdays.
52:03
So good luck to him and maybe we'll catch up before the
52:06
season's over. But Brian, anything to add to
52:09
that top five or what do you think?
52:12
No, that, no. That's a good list.
52:13
I think you've got it. Ulta Penn, Northern Highlands,
52:16
Raleigh PO, you know, Wayne Hills, Wayne Valley, you know,
52:20
that's that's pretty much it right now at this moment.
52:22
And then, you know, like you said to Westwood, Westwood
52:25
Ramsey, when they play each other, you'll get a little bit
52:27
of a breakdown to see who the top dog there is.
52:30
So it's you know who's coming up.
52:31
Not that it's intermediate area. Hanover Park's having a good
52:34
year right now. 5 and O little bit out of the area, but a new
52:38
coach out there because the Hanover Park coach went up to
52:41
West Essex and kind of a musical cheer change of coaches.
52:44
But you knew Hanover Park coach is five and O up there right
52:47
now. So they they have a little.
52:50
Nick the Nick Liberato, the New Hanover Park coach and then the
52:53
Old West coach. Wayne Valley.
52:55
Chris Bevilaco, right? Yep, Yep.
52:57
You also have Coach Baer today texted me and said, what do you
53:02
know about Bernards? Bernards is we had coaches from
53:05
Bernard, they, you know, they've, they've really done
53:08
some damage the last three or four years.
53:10
They're back again this year. So I'm sure Coach Baer is
53:14
looking at a potential bracket and sees Bernards there.
53:19
I think it's high time we have Coach Baer on the show.
53:21
I can't have, I know we probably had him on once or maybe twice,
53:25
but it's been a long time. So if he picks up one of these
53:28
big wins here, we, we, we should have him on because I call him
53:32
every I call him every so often with a butt dial because he's
53:35
one of the first people in my contact list.
53:37
I'm sure he he's got a few missed calls from me when I but
53:41
you know, maybe we'll mean to do it one of these these weeks and
53:44
catch up with him, but. Have have we had him on?
53:46
Have we had him on Corey since the infamous Fred episode?
53:52
Probably not. We must have.
53:53
Probably not. No, we must have.
53:55
I don't think so. No.
53:58
The greatest episode ever that she said.
54:00
Yep. Yeah, I was.
54:02
Just Coach Tull said. We had such a nice time, Coach
54:07
Tull. I said, well, we'll you know
54:08
next time we'll do it in my backyard, he said.
54:11
Gary, I'd love to. That's it.
54:15
That's when you know you. That's when you've left.
54:17
That's when you know you've left your mark, Corey.
54:19
That's it. All right.
54:21
Well, Gary and the rest of the football show, sign it off.
54:24
We'll see you next. Week follow the leader.