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Yoreh De’ah 196:11-197:2. Niddah: When the Seven Clean Days Begin; When To Dip In a Mikvah · SHULCHAN ARUCH YOMI: Own the Halacha in 25 minutes a day!

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  OK, good morning. We are at Kuf Sadivav.
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  We're about to start. You'd bet.
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  I just wanted to point out, just out of interest, I just looked
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  up for fun and Badea Shulhan when he writes about Kalisha.
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  So here there he writes pretty much lakuli alma.
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  It's 100% usser. So I just just as a reader be
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  rare whenever you read anything, sometimes you get one opinion
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  when there's really more opinions.
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  You don't always get the whole picture from one safer.
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  Anyway, just to conclude from Yudhalif where we left off
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  Yudhalif Kutsadivar Yudhalif so we were speaking about because
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  the Sergey of Plata Chekwadzara, do we count 4 days, Five days.
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  So just to point out, just to clarify, it's the truma
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  sedation. That's where it's where it all
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  starts. Where we know from the Gemara
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  there's you have to first wait four days and then you start
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  counting on the 5th day. So that's the psalk of the
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  Sholkhunar and it's the Truma Sadashian who introduced.
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  We always add one extra day because we're afraid maybe
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  she'll miscount basically because of Banashmasha.
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  Also, he's he's the one who institutes the zera of LO
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  Shimsha, Atu Shimsha. In other words, whether she sees
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  whether she was with her husband or not, we always the Truma
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  Saidas Truma Saidasian says we always wait a full 5 days and
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  only start counting on the 6th day.
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  And that starts from when she sees blood, right?
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  Whether it's through a Bedika and there's Hagasha, whether
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  it's Ketem that makes her Timaea.
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  So then we always wait 5 full days and then we start counting
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  on the 6th day. So that's the Truma Saidasian
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  and the baseocef writes on this, the Kolelu, Kumrati, tarotain,
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  these are all too great of kumras.
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  There's no reason for it. And it writes against the din of
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  the Gomara. And so the Shokanar baskins like
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  the Gomara only four days from when she was with her husband.
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  And if she wasn't with her husband, then you start counting
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  immediately seven days from when she sees when, as soon as she
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  gets her have Sectara, right? So when she sees bleeding.
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  So obviously when there's a period, it's going to be more
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  than one day. But sometimes it's just that one
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  time, especially if it's ketem. And so then she only has to
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  worry. She only counts, she gets her
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  have Sectara could be that one day.
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  And then she already counts Zion Nekim.
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  So whenever there's blood, according to the Sholkhanarak,
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  there's always you have your half stick to Hara and you
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  immediately afterwards, the next day you can start the Shiva
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  Nikim. The only time you have to add
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  these, it's it's really the extra 3 days.
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  But it's the only time you have to have four days is if she was
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  with, she knows she was with her husband.
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  If she knows she was not with her husband, all right, Tajmesh,
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  so then she can start counting immediately.
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  It's the Rama who holds it's a big difference.
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  Not you need 5 days from seeing blood regardless if she was with
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  her husband or not. And so the the the Ashkenazim
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  Fisher Paskin like the Rama, no question among the Spartan
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  mitzvah locus, Tara Sabai Sahabadiya paskins like the
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  Shalkhanarak and orlitsion paskins like the Rama, which is
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  the what the Banishchai rights was the Menhug.
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  OK, so that pretty much takes care of that.
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  Now. I just want to share a couple
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  points just to help clarify this whole sugiya of waiting.
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  OK, that's and then we just explained now when does she
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  needs to start counting the full This is most of the much of what
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  I'm going to point out going forward is going to be according
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  to the Rama that the Truma sedation.
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  So she needs to count 7 days starting from well you you need
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  the full 5 days and anytime she the only time you have to start
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  counting the five plus the seven is once she was muttered with
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  her husband and and then she sees bleeding.
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  She right, she sees blood. Then you have to count.
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  Let's say she was not with her husband yet and she was still
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  usser or as long as she's usser from her husband, you don't have
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  to and then she sees blood. You don't have to add another
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  full 5 days. There's no Xera of Shimsha out
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  to Lo Shimsha because Lo Shimsha out to Shimsha because it was
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  she was ussered to her husband. So as far I'll just you
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  mentioned about the husband not in the in the city.
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  So there she's permitted with her husband, but she's not with
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  her husband. So that's a Makloka Sakhonim.
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  We'll just really leave it at that, if that counts.
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  I think many are Mahmar. I think most are Mahmar, Viola
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  Lobahir. It's because she's add some
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  mutter to the husband. It's only if she wasn't, she was
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  still ussered to the husband. And then you don't have to add
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  those extra 5 days. Let's say she never went to the
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  mikvah for a month or whatever it is.
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  You don't have to worry about it.
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  But once she goes to the mikvah here, let's say she goes to the
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  mikvah and then she comes back home that first night.
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  And then as soon as she comes back from the mikva, she arrives
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  at the house. And then before they're
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  together, she sees Dom. She went to the mikva, she's
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  much of the husband, but she sees Dom.
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  Does she have to wait 5 + 7 or just 7 so that everyone holds?
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  As long as she didn't, as long as it's that first night and she
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  was not with their husband, so there's no Shekhwadzara.
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  So then she doesn't have to count the extra 5 days.
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  The seven days only starts the extra the necessity of five
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  extra days of places chuckles there as if she was when she
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  becomes a mutter to the husband and it was possible.
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  If she gets those few hours in the evening is a little you, you
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  get that as a chance you won't become us.
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  Or yet once she sleeps over once that first night happens in the
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  whatever, even if they're not together and they're in their
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  own beds that first night. But they slept and they were
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  much of that night. She went to the mikvah.
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  So then most post games say already that's that's the low
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  plug Zera that she was much of the husband and now they have to
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  wait five days plus the seven. There is a little bit of a
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  Maclocus. So we'll I'll just leave that as
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  a Maclocus. If she was a Suffolk case and
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  the paskind or they are a machmer that they're going to be
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  usser to each other. So then that already counts
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  towards those five days because or if you know, she, whatever
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  the case might be, she might say I am to me.
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  I even if it's not true. But then that becomes the
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  halacha for the two of them for that, whatever it whenever it
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  becomes usser from them that can start counting towards those
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  five days. We just mentioned as a as a
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  caveat, if there's fertility issues really that you just ask
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  for Shiloh. But there's a couple, some are
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  Mako for that one day. Some say don't be together for a
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  full month and then you don't have to worry it don't go to the
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  mickler for that month and then you don't have to worry about
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  those extra 5 days again, it all.
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  Those are all cases that really depend on each case and how long
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  the period lasts. So that's obviously way beyond
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  what we're doing. I guess that's the main things
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  for Akala, generally speaking, she since she's never really
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  emitted to the husband until they have Euclid.
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  So then you don't need those extra 5 days because again, it's
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  not Shia just to throw it out there as far as let's say it's
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  Yom Kippur and Avelas. So she's not Anita, she's mutter
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  to the husband meetsad Nida, but she's usher to the husband
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  meetsad Yom Kippur and Avelas. Does that count for the five
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  days? So it's Mahlokas.
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  So just that really depends on who you follow.
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  Fine. I think that pretty much
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  addresses at least the main points that come out of the OK
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  fine, let's read your bet inside IB Tata Dominion Yom ehad.
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  OK, she makes a mistake on how she counts Vitabla Vashemsha.
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  Oh, OK, fine, let's I think we'll just read here.
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  So then she she goes to the mikvah a day early and then
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  she's with her husband. OK, Tashmi Shamita.
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  Now she really needs for sure she had to have the seven
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  Nikkeem, but she didn't no way SEC SEC.
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  She didn't have the seven nikkeem, she didn't have the
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  Shiva Nikkeem, I believe is the case.
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  And therefore, she for sure has to go to the mikvah, right?
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  It it was OK. Yeah.
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  Shiva Nakim. Exactly.
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  So now she has to. She's still not bleeding yet.
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  She was with her husband. There's Shekhla Zara, but
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  there's no blood. So with this other day, she is
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  going to get this. The next day when she went to
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  the mikvah when she wasn't supposed to, She'll that'll
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  that'll be she'll it'll be 7 days of not bleeding.
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  But now she had Shekhlad Zara in the middle.
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  Pletah Shekhlad Zara So then what do we do?
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  Sri right 2 two different issues but that come together.
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  So then srikala hamdin shesh onot shlemot.
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  So now she must wait 72 hours. Vikhar ka timne Yom ekhad naki.
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  So she waits 72 hours. Then she waits another clean day
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  to to add to complete the seven Nikim.
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  In other words, it it makes a break, it's the she doesn't have
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  to restart counting another 7 clean days.
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  It ruins that day, but it doesn't need the another seven
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  days because it's not blood. It's Shekhwa Zera.
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  So Shekhwa Zera could pause the seven days by the of it, but
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  it's not gonna right. They did it.
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  But yes, Sir, but she but she doesn't.
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  But but there's no bleeding, so she doesn't need another seven
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  days. So vegetable.
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  She was I believe not. I believe she was a not Tahara
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  Daraya. She's not a right.
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  So it depends if you're calling her a Zava or Anita.
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  But she right because me, the writer.
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  If she was only Anita, she never needed Zionikin.
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  OK, so it depends from which angle you look at it.
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  Fine. It's no, no, it's it's a homra
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  that we treat her as a Zaba. So it depends, right?
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  If you're looking her at it as a Nida, sorry, I'm looking at
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  Zaba. She right, it happens, right?
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  Because she was technically probably only a Nida Mida
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  Araisa. She was 100% Sahara menatoral
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  dical level, right? It's a Homer that we treat her
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  as a zava. If she was a zava, then then
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  it's a problem to reisa. So anyways, vegetable.
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  So then she goes to the mikvah after she is Marshall in this
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  extra day. So it comes out we're looking at
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  about 5 days in this case because you need the 72 full
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  hours which you which always turns into four days.
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  And now she needs one more day in this case because she never
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  she never had her zaya nekim. So this is even right Vetit ball
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  and she goes to the mikvah, right?
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  This is even according to the Sholkhanara in this case, you
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  needed five days Stira Shila Akhar Shiva.
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  But if she had a let's say it turns out she did have a full 7
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  days of nekim but and and then but it turns out she didn't go
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  to the mikvah properly. Let's say she had a khatsitza.
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  There was something wrong with the mikvah.
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  There was there wasn't 40 in the mikvah.
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  There was a problem with the Tavila itself, but she did have
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  a proper Zion nikkeem and then she was with her husband.
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  That's the Sierra she was there is Shekhawat Zara.
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  So then Hareza tavel at the whole 8.
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  She doesn't have to wait for anything because she can go.
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  She was with her husband. OK, so then she now, because,
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  right, she doesn't have to wait for any Shekhar to pass because
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  there's no pause on the Zionikim.
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  She had her full Zionikim. So now she can go to the mikvah
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  right away here. If the if the Tvilo was a mamash
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  puzzle, they'd have to bring a corvum, correct?
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  Correct. OK, right.
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  That all depends on the case. It's a kumra, not a Kumra, fine.
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  And obviously once you're with your husband, it's much more.
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  We're generally a bit the Evan more Makal on the Tvila as if
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  it's a Shiloh. That's probably OK.
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  If it's probably not OK, then we have to go fine.
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  You're the Gilmo Aisha, shishibsha, miteta virata
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  kharka. So she's with her husband and
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  then afterwards she sees what Kharka, the upasca.
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  So she stops which has a habsettara verroz salisbar Mio
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  maharat rieta and she wants to start counting immediately.
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  She doesn't want to wait these four or five days of pleita
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  chekwazara, right 'cause sometimes a woman will bleed for
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  one or two days, It depends on what the situation is.
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  And she wants to start counting immediately.
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  What can she do to Kanea Yafei Yafei also Malcolm the Moch.
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  You put some kind of a sponge or some kind of an insert and you
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  clean out right. You're inside as really well
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  over bag it and you put some kind of a cloth deep inside the
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  Hafleet call Hazara in order to make sure that you remove and
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  clean out any of the Zara Oh Tirhots, the Mayim Kamim are you
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  bathe in hot water, Vahem, ya Fleetu cola, Zara and the hot
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  water you're bathing in the bath with hot water.
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  It'll clean it all out and then you can start counting
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  immediately the Zion, the Zion Akim, right.
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  So that's a header for not this Gimel's a header for how to not
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  wait these extra 3 or 4 days. All right, it's you always have
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  to wait the day of Hafsektara. So it's the extra 3 or 4 days of
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  this Pleita Chekhlizzara Haggah, the Yeesh Omrim, the Ain Anu
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  Bikin, Bisman Azeh and the Rama points out.
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  But nowadays we're not the Bikin, we're not able to do
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  this. The Ain we smoke Alze and we
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  cannot rely on cleaning out and therefore the Hakhi Nahoog.
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  And that's the MENA Derek kavar Nita by Nita by Arsha Anunagi
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  Muhammad in a few low Shim shakal and we're even stripped.
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  Even if she wasn't even with Tashmi.
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  Once you see bleeding, there's five full days you have to wait.
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  Kadesha Lola khalik benspira lespira or not to be start
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  making distinctions. You know, Kolshikane, the
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  Kaigawna. Certainly in this case, we kola
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  pori together, the devouring alu and any of these issues that
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  we're discussing here in particular, we're talking about
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  the kola pori together is Malcolm Shinaguola Hakamir
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  whenever the Minot is the Minot of Kaiso or not.
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  Medina of Claude's job is to be Mahmer and one wants on even if
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  private matters, one wants to be Mako on his own.
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  Ishakhanu Nakhash deserves to have the snake bite him.
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  OK, and and for a minax far it depends who you ask.
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  Bottom line, it's a maklokas how to deal with it.
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  Generally it's we always wait four days.
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  Usually the mice you have to wait four days usually.
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  I mean, it depends on the case, especially for Katzam.
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  But anyways, generally speaking, Minnock is to be Malcolm or but
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  it depends who you ask and if what the the shots I've talked
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  or not. OK, fine.
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  Kuf Saadi Zain Shiloh Titbola isha.
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  But you don't forget, you know, I forgot to look exactly the
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  wording if you asked. It's I don't know for sure, but
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  I, I think in Rava Vadhya in general, Rava Vadhya follows is
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  very close to following the Shalkanar.
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  And he writes that Mikarden Alaka is like Moran, but the
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  shalkanar, the Kula. But I don't think unless I have
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  to see it inside, I don't think swear them are no Hague unless
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  it's there's a need. OK, fine, let's go on to cook
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  side design. She's not allowed to go to the
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  mikvah during the day. All right, so we're going as we
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  read on. We're going to see the reason
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  why. Fine Olive.
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  Once a woman's a neither a Zava or she gives birth.
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  So we know they're all to maim even if they stopped bleeding
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  long ago. They can't get out of their
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  tuma. They're always going to be Anita
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  or Azava or whatever it is. Have that din unless you let it.
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  Unless they go to the mikvah. Shafil wahar Kama shanim
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  hayekare, Sabah ahasman. Even if someone is with them,
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  the man and there's there's a Hayekare even years later if she
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  never went to the mikvah properly.
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  Allah IM Cain Tablou Karaoy. Only if she went to the mikvah
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  properly. The makkom Araoy, right?
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  Oh yeah, I have a makkom. Ah, that's interesting.
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  My version has the makkom, but it's it means the same thing.
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  She has to go to the mikvah properly and a kosher mikvah.
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  OK, Right. I mean, it could be it could be
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  a Mayan, but OK, all right, let's go and we'll get to that
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  soon and a couple more Sumani bet IM Bala bahir mitzvah,
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  litpal mitzvah. Even if the husband's in the
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  same city, then there's a mitzvah for her to go to the
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  mitzvah and the that right it's called.
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  What's that? LL mitzvah?
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  OK, so that's she should go to the mikvah right away.
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  Shala Lovato mipiria verivia filo Laila aghas sonatvi Lovato
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  mipiria verivia even one night. OK, Also Shalom bias issues.
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  OK, Haggah umutaret litbo Leo Shabbat.
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  She should also go on Shabbos if that's when it comes out, if she
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  can't go before. The dafkaim Bala bahir ABBA Bala
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  bahi Asad but on Friday night, so he says you should.
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  If the husband is not there, then don't go Friday nights.
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  OK. She could go before like if it
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  was after birth she was. He was not in the city Uba, the
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  heir of Shabbos, and then he shows up on Friday and she
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  wasn't expecting him. Yesh omrim Shah Surah alibo.
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  Some say it's usher to go that night, the kanaguba miksat
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  nakamos and some are no egg to be mahmir not to go Friday
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  night. If she could have gone earlier
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  and she pushed it off Ababa Malcolm, she ain't minhag Ain
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  Lahmer. But if you don't have that
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  specific minhag to really be anti going Friday night, then
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  you should not be Mahmer because you should be with your husband
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  Uba makum shinagula hakmer gam the Mahsay Shabbat lotitpal the
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  Maharshaya F Shalalitpal koden Mahane in Mahiki natvila Mina ha
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  FIFA. And so then that's another issue
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  is what to do with mosay Shabbos if she could have gone.
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  So then he writes you should push it off because you don't
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  want to be do your FIFA Arab Shabbos and then do go to the
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  mikvah Mozi Shabbos. So anyways.
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  But if you do them both the same night, then you've accomplished
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  both the Hein al Menasha as sur elite Volt villa Rishona Bilal
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  Shabbos and so too in al Mana, right.
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  She gets remarried on the all right, so shasura litbo tavila
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  Risha tavila, her first time. She can't go to the mikvah on
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  vil Shabbos, Mishum da sur la ro a Leah via rishona de Shabbos.
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  She's they're not allowed to have their first via together on
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  the night. So then asura litbo gamkane B
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  mottse Shabbos. So it's ASA also on mottse
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  Shabbos, Viesh mekeeli no material litbo mottse Shabbos,
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  ho Shabbos mishabbos mishaum khashash ESA.
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  And some say no, right? Because by an Almana we're
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  saying she he is Kona her with the BIA.