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DILEMMAS: HE'S PERFECT BUT... · Relatables

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Speaker 1: Coming up on relatables.
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Speaker 2: I don't think the amount of money you're saving being
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Speaker 2: in staffed housing is worth what it does to the relationship.
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Speaker 2: So he's making a choice here, like he's showing where
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Speaker 2: his values are at. Like to him, saving money is
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Speaker 2: more valuable than a secure relationship.
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Speaker 1: That's that's my opinion. You put it like that.
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Speaker 2: There's that there, and there's also some people that probably
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Speaker 2: don't care. There is probably some girls that don't care,
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Speaker 2: but you care. I would care. It's a valid thing
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Speaker 2: to care about.
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Speaker 3: The Relatables podcast is hosted by myself, Audie Clark aka Mummy,
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Speaker 3: and my partner in crime.
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Speaker 1: Is the Jake Craig aka Daddy.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and he is Mummy because he's the when you
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Speaker 2: go to when you have a dilemma.
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Speaker 3: And Jake is Daddy because he's the one you go
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Speaker 3: to when you have a money dilemma.
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Speaker 1: And you guys are the babies the babies, No, not
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Speaker 1: the babies. And you guys are the bad. Are you serious?
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Speaker 1: You guys are the bad?
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Speaker 2: Sorry? I listened to shooting gigs this morning. They call
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Speaker 2: theirs audience the babies, so it's like fresh in my head.
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Speaker 1: I'm angry with you man.
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Speaker 3: You guys are the baddies, but the baddies are in
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Speaker 3: for a treat today.
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Speaker 2: The first ever.
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Speaker 3: This is no, it's not the first ever. I've done
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Speaker 3: it before, like two years ago. The first ever premium version. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 3: of dilemmas. This whole episode will be Dilemmas from you
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Speaker 3: guys with the.
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Speaker 1: Prompt ah, he's perfect but.
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Speaker 3: Yes, which is a reoccurring theme on relatables, and you
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Speaker 3: guys did not disappoint with submitting No. And before we
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Speaker 3: get into today's episode, we want to say what the
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Speaker 3: following Dilemmas episode prompt will be, so you can either.
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Speaker 1: Submit or check out story.
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Speaker 2: Next Dilemma's episode will be I did something I regret.
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Speaker 3: So there'll be a link in the top of the description,
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Speaker 3: or watch out for the story on Instagram.
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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, shall we just into it?
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Speaker 3: I feel like that's what dilemma dilemmas are. No bullshit,
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Speaker 3: straight into the juice.
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Speaker 1: I will say this.
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Speaker 2: Five stars on Spotify or whatever platform you're on, or
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Speaker 2: tigers in your story on Instagram. When your hot girl
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Speaker 2: walks do on your body? Shit?
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Speaker 3: Exactly all right, Jake, He's perfect but still has bumble
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Speaker 3: on his phone. We met on Bumble and have been
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Speaker 3: dating since January, and while we were looking at YouTube shorts,
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Speaker 3: a message popped up on Bumble from another girl. I
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Speaker 3: asked him why he had it, and he said he
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Speaker 3: never paid attention to it and deleted it there and
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Speaker 3: then promised me there was no cheating going on. And
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Speaker 3: besides that, he hasn't given me any reason to believe
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Speaker 3: anything is going on. We practically live together. He works
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Speaker 3: two jobs, which makes me think how would he even
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Speaker 3: have the time to cheat? Besides that, we've been going strong.
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Speaker 3: He is kind, supportive and all around good boyfriend. But
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Speaker 3: this instance left me with some insecurity.
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Speaker 1: What do I do? Oh my god?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't blame me for having insecurities, because the
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Speaker 2: thing that sucks about this is right, Okay, I'm gonna go.
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Speaker 2: There's two obviously different mindsets. It's like, okay, so yes,
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Speaker 2: it isn't entire It is one hundred percent of possibility
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Speaker 2: that he has completely forgotten about the app. But I've
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Speaker 2: never used Bumble. I don't know how it works, but
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Speaker 2: I'm sure that he would have to be active on
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Speaker 2: the app to receive a message. Correct.
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Speaker 1: I think so to a certain extent, but also if
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Speaker 1: he's forgotten about.
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Speaker 3: It, Yeah, I think that's completely disrespectful to her and
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Speaker 3: the relationship.
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Speaker 1: I mean, like, that's crazy to me.
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Speaker 3: If you get a relationship you delete a dating app, like.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, it's crazy, that's so crazy.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I think you are onto something with He said
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Speaker 3: he hasn't been interacting with. The app is bumble the
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Speaker 3: one where girl's message first and his profile.
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Speaker 1: Is just up there?
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Speaker 2: Maybe and yeah, his profile is just up But also
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Speaker 2: that's not given the benefit of the Dowaday. Also, here's
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Speaker 2: the thing with with like, you know, you shouldn't just
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Speaker 2: be deleting the app once you get a girlfriend or
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Speaker 2: a boyfriend. You should be deleting the profile.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, you should. Actually you could do that in
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Speaker 3: you delete yeah are you sure?
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Speaker 2: Are you sure?
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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm sure?
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Speaker 2: Give me the fuck off the scene then delete.
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Speaker 1: It did its job, I'm out of here. That's the
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Speaker 1: right thing to do.
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Speaker 3: And also, I feel like anyone that gets in a
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Speaker 3: relationship off one of those apps, like you have in
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Speaker 3: the back of your mind like this thing worked, I'm
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Speaker 3: going to get off it. You don't just forget about
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Speaker 3: it because you owe everything to it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's.
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Speaker 3: A tricky one, but it's also like a shitty excuse
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Speaker 3: in a sense of like, why are you following these
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Speaker 3: bikini girls on Instagram?
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Speaker 4: Oh?
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Speaker 1: Sorry, I forgot about it? On follow them? Like I
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Speaker 1: don't even think about it. Oh on follow him now?
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Speaker 1: But like, I don't know. That's not really the solution.
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Speaker 2: Is it.
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Speaker 1: Okay?
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Speaker 2: I think it's probably gotta because he's the tough thing,
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Speaker 2: right is It really really sucks if he's telling the truth,
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Speaker 2: because you have now got this huge insecurity, which is valid,
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Speaker 2: But it also really really sucks because let's say he's
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Speaker 2: lying you then now just have to like figure out
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Speaker 2: if he's lying, you know, and because it sucks because
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Speaker 2: if you're like, fuck it, I don't want to figure
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Speaker 2: out if he's lying, because there's possibility he could be lying,
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Speaker 2: even though he's given giving me no reason, Like, you know,
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Speaker 2: he works two jobs. We basically live together. He wouldn't
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Speaker 2: even have time to cheat.
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Speaker 1: They always have time to cheat, I'm sure they do.
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Speaker 1: Does he really have two jobs? But damn, that's a
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Speaker 1: good good thing.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's not as bad the lemma, but the
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Speaker 3: steps are to me, this isn't breakup worthy, No, And
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Speaker 3: I think he just has to show you that he's
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Speaker 3: telling the truth and rebuild your trust. Because here's the
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Speaker 3: thing I was going to say, like, you don't want
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Speaker 3: to have conditions like this in a relationship, But it's
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Speaker 3: almost like you need to come to an agreement where
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Speaker 3: you know, over the next couple of months you get
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Speaker 3: like three times where you just get to randomly go
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Speaker 3: on his phone or some shit. But at the same time,
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Speaker 3: you don't want those conditions in a relationship because that
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Speaker 3: means that there's now no more trust in the relationship.
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Speaker 2: So why are you still going anyway?
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Speaker 3: I actually think so have a conversation about it again.
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Speaker 3: But it's more so how you view him in your head.
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Speaker 3: So prior to this, you were thinking, this man's perfect,
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Speaker 3: I want to marry this man. Now your mindset should
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Speaker 3: be this man's just my boyfriend for the moment, and
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Speaker 3: he's got to rebuild that trust to regain how you
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Speaker 3: envisioned him in your head to become the man you
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Speaker 3: want to marry.
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Speaker 1: That's how I would do it.
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Speaker 5: Just since January, it's fucking November on it, it is
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Speaker 5: a long time.
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Speaker 3: But also you would hate that like he is telling
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Speaker 3: the truth, but also if he's telling the truth.
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Speaker 1: It's also like do better, come on, just do better.
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Speaker 3: That's why I think like it's a conversation, it's conversation worthy,
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Speaker 3: and then it's how you view him for a couple
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Speaker 3: of months until he rebuilds that trust and proves to
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Speaker 3: you that he's not doing anything wrong.
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Speaker 4: True.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, like trust can be rebuilt and it's not like
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Speaker 2: the trust is completely shattered. But the only thing I
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Speaker 2: find sus And because you guys met on bumble, you
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Speaker 2: would know. So the thing I find sus is the
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Speaker 2: fact that he received a message. So if he's been
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Speaker 2: unactive on it, how did he receive a message? But
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Speaker 2: if it is something that is possible because you've been
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Speaker 2: on it, then then that's your judgment to make. And
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Speaker 2: I think, what was I going to say? Because here's
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Speaker 2: the thing, Like people can forgive cheating you know people,
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't judge someone for you know, forgiving a cheater
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Speaker 2: if they if they like had a you know, their
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Speaker 2: reasons to do it and they got through it and
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Speaker 2: then they trusted again and stuff. So I think whatever
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Speaker 2: you what odd he's saying is right, Like whatever you
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Speaker 2: would you forgive a cheating me? I wouldn't. You could
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Speaker 2: just understand someone, but when someone like I don't judge
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Speaker 2: someone for forgiving a Cheatah.
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't judge him, but I'd also be like, what
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Speaker 1: are you doing? Oh no?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like my if someone came to me with advice
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Speaker 2: saying this, my boyfriend cheated on me or my girlfriend
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Speaker 2: cheated on me, I'd say, well, you obviously need to
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Speaker 2: break up. But then if they said no, I want
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Speaker 2: to forgive them, I would be like, that's a that's
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Speaker 2: your choice to make, okay, Like, but I personally I.
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Speaker 3: Thought you were saying like, oh, yeah, I'm open to
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Speaker 3: like forgiving a cheating No, no, no, no, I just don't
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Speaker 3: judge something if they do forgive a cheat because I'm
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Speaker 3: not that person. That's also like, it's not my life.
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Speaker 3: I don't care exactly, so that's dumb. Like I'm more
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Speaker 3: than happy to be like, yeah, you definitely should break up,
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Speaker 3: but dude, I'm way too.
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Speaker 2: For something.
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Speaker 1: I'm just way too I hate cheating too much to
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Speaker 1: forgive cheating. Oh the same. I've said it before.
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Speaker 3: I reckon it's the equivalent of like killing someone cheating
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Speaker 3: on someone, it's killing their heart.
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean yeah, you've just killed someone's fucking happiness. Okay,
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Speaker 1: So I think that's a good advice in there.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 3: I also wanted to say, comment below what you guys
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Speaker 3: would do or what advice you would give?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, what advice would you give? So that was dilemma
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Speaker 2: number one. Dilemma number two. I've recently met someone. I
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Speaker 2: find him super attractive and he he's a box ticker,
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Speaker 2: ticks all the boons, glad he's not a boxer, stable job,
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Speaker 2: doesn't live with his mum, has a car and a license,
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Speaker 2: hasn't been to jail.
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Speaker 1: What where's the bar?
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Speaker 2: Is she like?
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Speaker 1: Eighteen?
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Speaker 2: We get along well, great chat. I feel so comfortable
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Speaker 2: around him. I wasn't quite ready to be completely intimate,
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Speaker 2: but you know, we fooled around a little. So he
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Speaker 2: ticks all my boxes. But he's on the smaller side.
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Speaker 1: That's not where I thought. This is guy in.
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Speaker 2: Brackets, he's willy. Sex is pretty important to me in
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Speaker 2: a relationship. It's definitely a way I feel connected to
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Speaker 2: the person I love. What if it sucks? So she
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Speaker 2: hasn't had sex yet, she's felt it and seen.
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Speaker 1: It was he hard?
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Speaker 2: I assume she don't.
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Speaker 1: Fool around him not get hard. Yeah, well I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I was trying to give him a benefit of the doubt.
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Speaker 3: The relatable issue of men having pinnies.
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Speaker 2: Yes, Australia answering this one name, I said, give him
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Speaker 2: a chance.
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Speaker 1: No, no, is Beth working? Is Beth working?
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Speaker 2: Like at work right now?
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Speaker 4: Oh?
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Speaker 1: No, she's worked. Let's give her a ring. You want
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Speaker 1: you working for.
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Speaker 3: You?
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Speaker 1: Why did your job holly off to get a dissexing done?
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Speaker 4: So?
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Speaker 2: Maybe not?
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Speaker 3: Damn they would have been would have been a great
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Speaker 3: answer there. Okay, you gotta give him a chance.
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Speaker 2: I feel like you just yeah you do, Like she said,
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Speaker 2: it's been it is recent I've recently met someone.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he takes all the boxes, don't doesn't live with
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Speaker 1: his mum, can.
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Speaker 3: Drive as the list hasn't been to jail all of them. No,
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Speaker 3: but also I guess look to judge your your your boxes,
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Speaker 3: but I'm judging them. Pleasurable sex can extend past penetration.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you get some good fucking four play going.
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Speaker 1: Do you have big fingers? How tall is he? It
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Speaker 1: would suck if his fingers were bigger? Also, like what
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Speaker 1: that mouth do? Like that tough shit?
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Speaker 2: Also?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so ok, steps are give him a chance.
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Speaker 3: No, no, no, give him two chances, because the first time
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Speaker 3: you never perform.
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Speaker 1: The first time you're.
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Speaker 3: Nervous, you're figuring out each other's bodies, and the second time,
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Speaker 3: if it sucks, like well I'm out of here.
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Speaker 2: Yeah okay, So it's on the smaller side. I mean, hey,
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Speaker 2: it's like, is there a saying where well, here's one saying.
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Speaker 2: Also weird saying, but there's more than one way to
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Speaker 2: skin a cat.
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Speaker 3: You know that's saying you heard, that's saying it there's
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Speaker 3: more than one way to skin a chicken.
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Speaker 1: Your skin chickens? What do your skin cats?
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Speaker 3: You know?
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Speaker 2: That's why I said it's a weird saying when I
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Speaker 2: feel like I grew up hearing there's more than one
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Speaker 2: way to skin a cat?
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Speaker 1: Also is there?
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Speaker 2: I don't know who cares, But what I'm trying to
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Speaker 2: say is like add he was saying, there's more than
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Speaker 2: one way to bring you up to climax? Yeah, so
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Speaker 2: what that mouth do, what those fingers do, what that
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Speaker 2: pregame do? Right?
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Speaker 3: But also, if I'm a girl in this situation, do
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Speaker 3: I want to give him the chance when it's so
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Speaker 3: small because I haven't put any effort into this relationship
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Speaker 3: yet or should I just move on to the next
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Speaker 3: It's tough for the man, but also I want to
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Speaker 3: be selfish, like fair enough. If I don't know, i'd
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Speaker 3: put like six months into it. And then he has
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Speaker 3: a small dick. There's only been a couple of days.
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Speaker 2: It's only been recently.
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Speaker 1: Meant saying, I don't ask a question. How small is
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Speaker 1: too small?
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Speaker 3: That's a good question, like like, rude finger, that's a
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Speaker 3: small doodle.
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Speaker 1: That's tiny, and because you have thicker fingers than me.
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Speaker 2: But nobody he's like, you could have a you could
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Speaker 2: have a willy that long, but apparently thickness is where it's.
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Speaker 1: Let's just go length and that's too small. Yeah, that's
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Speaker 1: that's all right. I personally think that's all right. About
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Speaker 1: six inches. That's not six inches, what's okay? That's like
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Speaker 1: fucking three and a half four Oh for really, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you have a bigger.
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Speaker 2: Thinger than me. But nah, there's no way I reckon
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Speaker 2: that right there, that's four inches.
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Speaker 6: There's no way that's like fucking that is definitely a
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Speaker 6: four inch finger. Nah, yeah, I reckon If that's a
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Speaker 6: four inch finger, get.
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Speaker 3: The tape out. And if it's under four inches cut tires.
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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
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Speaker 2: And if you really like him, so to you. But
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Speaker 2: we say, give him a chance, give him a chance,
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Speaker 2: two chances, give him two chances.
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Speaker 3: Okay, Dilemma number three. He's perfect, But whenever he's in
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Speaker 3: a mood or agitated and I call him out and
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Speaker 3: ask what's wrong, he'll turn around on me and say
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Speaker 3: why am I having a go at him? Or why
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Speaker 3: am I the one who's mad?
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Speaker 1: Now?
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Speaker 3: My older sister has seen him do it several times
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Speaker 3: now and has told me it's becoming hard to not
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Speaker 3: say anything on my behalf. I don't know how to
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Speaker 3: say something to him without once again having him say
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Speaker 3: I'm having a go at him. I also hate confrontation.
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Speaker 3: It makes me feel physically sick and anxious, so I
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Speaker 3: have been avoiding saying anything altogether. It gets to me
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Speaker 3: and I just don't feel like I can call out
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Speaker 3: his behavior when he's being unreasonable, slash, angry or moody
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Speaker 3: without any reason.
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Speaker 1: What do I do? Hoy?
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Speaker 2: Relatable on the confrontation front, very relatable, very relatable on
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Speaker 2: the confrontation front.
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Speaker 1: Damn, this guy sounds like a dick.
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Speaker 3: He does, so he gets angry, and then he's in
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Speaker 3: a mood and she's like, oh, why are you in
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Speaker 3: a mood?
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Speaker 1: And then he's just like why have we go where
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Speaker 1: we go? And then you obviously give a bit pissy.
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Speaker 3: It's just like alid back and forth, and then it's
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Speaker 3: kind of like he's just like blaming his issues on
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Speaker 3: you and making you feel like you're the problem and
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Speaker 3: you can't bring it up because he's just gonna have
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Speaker 3: another gal.
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Speaker 1: And yeah, and so like you've tried to bring it
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Speaker 1: up before.
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Speaker 3: It's a reoccurring cycle. And you know it's bad when
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Speaker 3: like your family and loved one start to realize it's
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Speaker 3: a problem.
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Speaker 2: And yeah, when you're when, Yeah, that's when you realize it.
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Speaker 2: Because if he's obviously he's not afraid to do it
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Speaker 2: in front of people. Mmmm. That's insane.
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Speaker 1: Mm hmm, he's insane.
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Speaker 3: So what do you do? So, which is relatable for
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Speaker 3: us is we both hate confrontation, but I feel like
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Speaker 3: if I am backed up against the wall, I could
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Speaker 3: confront someone same same No shame here, like no I'm not.
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Speaker 3: This is still breaker worthy for me.
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Speaker 2: A it's just weird.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of it's he shouldn't be treating you
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Speaker 1: this way. And also I was going to say, you shouldn't.
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Speaker 3: Have to say anything to him for him to realize
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Speaker 3: because it's such an obvious thing of obviously you're the problem. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: but it's like, at what point do you tell him?
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Speaker 3: But there's no winning here because he's just gonna have
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Speaker 3: another girl, I know.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like, of course he's allowed to be in
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Speaker 2: a bad mood. Obviously people have bad days and shit.
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Speaker 2: But what you're not allowed to do is make it
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Speaker 2: someone else's problem.
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Speaker 1: That's that's not nice. I guess it comes back to
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Speaker 1: how men don't have healthy outlets. It's but it's also
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Speaker 1: weird that I mean, maybe yeah, that could be it.
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Speaker 2: Maybe they don't have healthy outlets, because this guy certainly
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Speaker 2: needs fucking.
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Speaker 3: The simple solution is like you said, you're allowed to
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Speaker 3: be angry, you're allowed to be mad, and when she
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Speaker 3: says what's wrong, you say, sorry, I'm in a mood.
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Speaker 3: I'm just going to be quiet for ten fifteen minutes. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I just want a little bit of me time. Or
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Speaker 3: you say, oh, I need to talk about this. This
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Speaker 3: has been bothering me. And he can't do either of
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Speaker 3: those two things.
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Speaker 2: It's like it's just so easy to say to break
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Speaker 2: up with him. Yeah, that's the thing.
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Speaker 1: I think it's.
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Speaker 3: Relatable that men don't know how to regulate their emotions. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: and like his solution is just to get anger.
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Speaker 1: It's kind of like it's understandable. I know.
18:05
Speaker 3: Have you ever been in an argument and rather than
18:08
Speaker 3: kind of take on what the counterpart is saying, you
18:11
Speaker 3: double down. Yeah, that's so easy to do, and sometimes
18:14
Speaker 3: you don't catch yourself out doing it. Yeah, and someone
18:16
Speaker 3: needs to be the bigger person. But the fact that
18:18
Speaker 3: it's a reoccurring thing is like he goes in the
18:21
Speaker 3: fight as fight or flight as soon as you say, hey,
18:24
Speaker 3: what's wrong, because he thinks you're attacking him.
18:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's taking it as an attack.
18:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're asking what's wrong, I dare say out
18:30
Speaker 2: of care.
18:31
Speaker 1: And it's a really big problem. And look, I don't know.
18:35
Speaker 1: I don't know how you can do it without getting
18:37
Speaker 1: attacked either.
18:38
Speaker 2: See neither to why unless they're unless you could maybe
18:46
Speaker 2: maybe overcome the fear of the confrontation, like somehow, you know,
18:52
Speaker 2: just set it aside if possible, and try and get
18:56
Speaker 2: in a mindset of like, all right, I've decided did.
19:00
Speaker 2: Obviously you need to make this decision, make this decision,
19:03
Speaker 2: but you could say to yourself, like, Okay, I've decided
19:06
Speaker 2: that if it doesn't stop the relationships ending. Yeah, So
19:11
Speaker 2: with that in mind, if there is and the next
19:15
Speaker 2: time he does it, or maybe actually bring it up
19:20
Speaker 2: when he's in a good.
19:21
Speaker 1: Mood, that's what I was thinking. So but also does
19:24
Speaker 1: that then make that put him in a ship mood? Yeah,
19:27
Speaker 1: here we go. It's worth a try.
19:28
Speaker 2: So if you can somehow, yeah, put aside the confrontation
19:31
Speaker 2: by kind of almost emotionally removing yourself from it, because
19:36
Speaker 2: it's kind of like, this is just a joke and
19:37
Speaker 2: this is just stupid. So if you think to yourself, yeah,
19:40
Speaker 2: if this keeps happening, the relationship's ending, right, because it's
19:43
Speaker 2: not fair on me because this makes me anxious. So
19:47
Speaker 2: when he's in a good mood, if you could bring
19:49
Speaker 2: up with him, like, you know, I just really want
19:51
Speaker 2: to talk to you about something. When you're in a
19:53
Speaker 2: bad mood and I ask you what's wrong, or I
19:57
Speaker 2: ask you why you're in a bad mood, always take
20:00
Speaker 2: it as an attack, and you can say there's obviously
20:04
Speaker 2: a variety of reasons why that isn't really fair to me,
20:07
Speaker 2: and I really don't appreciate it because it just makes
20:11
Speaker 2: me feel like absolute shit, Like you're impossible to be around.
20:14
Speaker 2: I don't know what you want to say things like
20:16
Speaker 2: that and so and how he takes that is really
20:19
Speaker 2: going to be your answer.
20:20
Speaker 1: The best and the only thing you can do.
20:21
Speaker 2: And it's scary. I fully admit it's scary, but I
20:24
Speaker 2: guess if you have to think about it, like if
20:27
Speaker 2: you want the relationship, keep going. It's something that has
20:29
Speaker 2: to be done exactly even though it is scary. So
20:34
Speaker 2: it's that's that's the best advice I can give.
20:36
Speaker 1: I like it.
20:37
Speaker 2: Okay, he's perfect, like my actual soul mate. We get
20:43
Speaker 2: along so well, have the same interests, same sense of humor,
20:48
Speaker 2: and just understand each other so well. But dot dot dot.
20:54
Speaker 2: He's eight years older than me and used to be
20:58
Speaker 2: the teacher assistant in my life last two years of
21:00
Speaker 2: high school for my economics and business class.
21:04
Speaker 1: That's hot, but also I know.
21:07
Speaker 2: I don't know what to do. I hate being away
21:10
Speaker 2: from him, but I'm scared of how my friends and
21:12
Speaker 2: family will react, as he was also the teaching assistant
21:16
Speaker 2: for some of my best friends is that it.
21:19
Speaker 1: I need more information, that's all we got.
21:24
Speaker 3: That kind of sounded like, basically, he's perfect, but he
21:28
Speaker 3: used to be like my substitute teacher or my teacher's assistant.
21:32
Speaker 3: That kind of sounded like, though, are they dating or
21:35
Speaker 3: is that all in her head?
21:36
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, are they? I have a feeling they
21:38
Speaker 1: dating because she said I hate being away from ye.
21:40
Speaker 2: But here's where I get a bit weirded out, right,
21:43
Speaker 2: like what did you guys? I need more context because
21:46
Speaker 2: did you guys meet after school? So like you met
21:49
Speaker 2: in school, right, but did you look at him that
21:51
Speaker 2: way in school? And did something start then? Because I'm sorry,
21:55
Speaker 2: but called the police because that's grooming? Or did you
21:58
Speaker 2: leave school and then start something which is still actually
22:03
Speaker 2: called the police illegal because that's actually still illegal.
22:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay.
22:08
Speaker 3: What I like to few dilemmas is put myself in
22:11
Speaker 3: the dilemma sender's shoes. And the only thing I could
22:16
Speaker 3: ever compare is we used to go to school, obviously,
22:19
Speaker 3: and then like three.
22:20
Speaker 1: Years later, we did go to school. Three years later.
22:23
Speaker 3: I didn't get with a teacher or anything, but I
22:25
Speaker 3: did see a teacher at a party. I was ash,
22:28
Speaker 3: you were there too, I think, but you dropped out
22:30
Speaker 3: of school.
22:30
Speaker 2: Oh wait, I know what teacher you're talking about.
22:33
Speaker 1: Yeah.
22:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like substitute pe Yeah, played footy. Yeah,
22:38
Speaker 2: so like kind of like the people we knew knew him.
22:41
Speaker 2: So we went to a party. He was actually liked
22:42
Speaker 2: it and there was other older people at the party.
22:45
Speaker 1: Also huge drug.
22:47
Speaker 3: Dealer yeah he yes, Oh I didn't know that assive Okay, yeah,
22:50
Speaker 3: oh I really liked him and it wasn't a creep
22:53
Speaker 3: where I was getting with it wrong.
22:54
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, apparently he got suspended from It wasn't our school,
23:02
Speaker 2: but I'm pretty sure he worked somewhere where he had
23:05
Speaker 2: to leave because there was some sus stuff going on
23:07
Speaker 2: with one of the older students.
23:10
Speaker 1: Well, don't take anything I said.
23:12
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he wasn't cool, but I know what you mean,
23:14
Speaker 2: Like if you didn't know that information, he actually was
23:16
Speaker 2: a cool guy.
23:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like, yeah, he has a bad but.
23:19
Speaker 3: What so you can be a teacher at another school,
23:22
Speaker 3: get accused of doing something with an older student, and
23:24
Speaker 3: then get transferred.
23:25
Speaker 2: So I still kids, it's a rumor, Like I don't
23:28
Speaker 2: know if it's true, but that's what I was told.
23:30
Speaker 1: I really liked him because he liked me because I
23:32
Speaker 1: was good at sport. Yeah, I do remember him like
23:34
Speaker 1: he was.
23:35
Speaker 2: He was like kind of he was probably mid to
23:37
Speaker 2: late twenties when he was at our school, and he
23:39
Speaker 2: was just young enough to still almost relate to some
23:41
Speaker 2: of the stuff. So he was kind of like, had
23:42
Speaker 2: good banter and just didn't give a fuck if you
23:44
Speaker 2: took the piss because he just take the pits harder.
23:46
Speaker 3: Well, where I was going with that, don't use him
23:49
Speaker 3: as an example, but where I was going with it
23:52
Speaker 3: was what can.
23:53
Speaker 2: You do.
23:55
Speaker 1: If he is normal and cool?
23:57
Speaker 3: But is your What you were saying kind of makes
23:59
Speaker 3: it seem like no one in this situation can be
24:02
Speaker 3: normally cool.
24:03
Speaker 1: I think that you can't be with this man. Yeah,
24:09
Speaker 1: I think that's why I'm leaning a so classic case
24:13
Speaker 1: of his perfect butt. If there's a butt, I might
24:17
Speaker 1: even go to say he's not perfect, right, because why
24:21
Speaker 1: is he going for students?
24:22
Speaker 3: I guess my say with that, it's always been too
24:25
Speaker 3: even thinking about school now. There used to be when
24:27
Speaker 3: we're in fucking year seven and eight, the year twelve
24:29
Speaker 3: years to date the girls in year seven and eight,
24:32
Speaker 3: that was insane and it's crazy, but to a girl
24:35
Speaker 3: right to the dilemma center you and this man.
24:38
Speaker 1: You're thinking, this.
24:39
Speaker 3: Guy's like cool, he's got his life so in such
24:41
Speaker 3: the same way flank blah blah blah blah takes all
24:43
Speaker 3: my boxes. But to him, why is a guy who's
24:46
Speaker 3: eight years older than you who taught you at school?
24:48
Speaker 3: When I get with someone who's eight years younger, who
24:51
Speaker 3: I'm not saying you don't have your life together, but
24:53
Speaker 3: why can't you get someone his own age? And I
24:54
Speaker 3: always thought that at school too, Why can't a year
24:56
Speaker 3: fucking twelve person get someone who's year twelve okay, because
24:58
Speaker 3: he's a loser.
24:59
Speaker 2: I literally was talking to Beth about this last night.
25:03
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, you know, when you were younger,
25:06
Speaker 2: if you had a friend that had older siblings, right,
25:11
Speaker 2: and you thought they were like cool, And she was
25:13
Speaker 2: like yeah, you know. I was like, they go to parties,
25:15
Speaker 2: you hear about shit on the weekends, and then and
25:17
Speaker 2: then you know, I said, there was a I remember
25:21
Speaker 2: it so clearly when I figured out, like, oh, older
25:26
Speaker 2: people are actually kind of losers, or it can be losers.
25:29
Speaker 2: Because I found out that one of this one of
25:32
Speaker 2: our friends like older brothers, who was twenty seven twenty
25:36
Speaker 2: eight at the time, he got with like a nineteen
25:39
Speaker 2: year old at a party, and I remember being like,
25:42
Speaker 2: I was twenty one, and I was thinking that's insane,
25:46
Speaker 2: that's crazy, that's insane, and that I remember from that day.
25:52
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, people just don't because we were
25:55
Speaker 2: talking about maybe Central Coast, I think a bit more
25:57
Speaker 2: like Central Coast, what it's like to party here, and
26:00
Speaker 2: how there's thirty year olds that still party like they're eighteen.
26:03
Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, I fully remember the day
26:05
Speaker 2: when I was like, yeah, people.
26:06
Speaker 3: I'm not all not saying we're cool in quotes or whatever,
26:11
Speaker 3: but like now that we're both twenty five, if I
26:14
Speaker 3: walked into a party and there was a bunch of
26:16
Speaker 3: eighteen or nineteen year olds, I wouldn't entertain it and
26:19
Speaker 3: start partying there too.
26:21
Speaker 1: I would be like, all right, well.
26:22
Speaker 3: This isn't the place for me. Yeah, and that's what
26:24
Speaker 3: the cool thing to do is. And the fact that
26:25
Speaker 3: people who entertain that and stay around it's.
26:27
Speaker 1: Not even the cool thing to do, it's the normal
26:30
Speaker 1: to do.
26:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the normal thing to do.
26:34
Speaker 3: So I guess, yeah, this guy's not perfect, then you
26:37
Speaker 3: should probably I reckon is the reason. She said she
26:39
Speaker 3: was embarrassed to tell her parents. Hey, I'm scared to
26:42
Speaker 3: I think that's because you know deep down that this
26:44
Speaker 3: is wrong. Yeah, and there's some underlying badness.
26:47
Speaker 2: This has to end, Yeah, this has to I'm sorry,
26:50
Speaker 2: this has to end because I'm in all honesty.
26:52
Speaker 1: If you tell your parents, they're very likely going to
26:54
Speaker 1: call the police.
26:55
Speaker 3: The way I ever see something like this working is
26:58
Speaker 3: like you finished school, You're like, now thirty, he's like
27:01
Speaker 3: thirty eight. You've gone here, Yeah, and then you meet
27:03
Speaker 3: at the coffee shop and.
27:04
Speaker 1: We're like, whoa, Yes, is that you sir? Yes, I
27:07
Speaker 1: know you used to be the teacher's eight or whatever.
27:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like that's an all right thing to me as well. Yeah,
27:12
Speaker 2: like an eight year age gap if you're thirty and
27:14
Speaker 2: he's thirty eight, by all means, exactly, by all means.
27:18
Speaker 1: But I've lived enough of life to know what's going on.
27:20
Speaker 2: The fact that it sounds like you've just got out
27:23
Speaker 2: of school. I don't know though, but it just seems
27:25
Speaker 2: that way with the information you're given. By the way,
27:27
Speaker 2: bad if you're sending these in, we need a little
27:29
Speaker 2: more info.
27:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't believe that teacher. I've told people he
27:32
Speaker 1: was cool. That sucks. Here's the thing.
27:36
Speaker 2: It's like, so the drug dealing thing one hundred percent true, okay,
27:40
Speaker 2: but the like suspension from another school thing was I'm
27:43
Speaker 2: not one hundred scent sure about because so as far
27:46
Speaker 2: as I know, it was from a school that wasn't
27:50
Speaker 2: in this country. Oh he lived in like the UK
27:53
Speaker 2: or something, And that does seem like a rumor. But
27:56
Speaker 2: also yeah, it's definitely a rumor. But yeah, I don't
27:59
Speaker 2: know how do room start exactly, you know, exactly? How
28:02
Speaker 2: do you something off? Something?
28:04
Speaker 1: Usually kind of true? The number five. Yes, he's perfect,
28:15
Speaker 1: but he hates p d A. I mean, you can
28:20
Speaker 1: end it there.
28:20
Speaker 2: I'm fine with that.
28:21
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm honest.
28:22
Speaker 3: Oh, okay, okay, but we'll get PDA only when there's
28:29
Speaker 3: other men around. Why does he need other men to
28:33
Speaker 3: show some PDA. I understand it can be like a
28:37
Speaker 3: territory thing, and it might be his subconscious, but I
28:41
Speaker 3: like it not just to be that's the only time
28:44
Speaker 3: I get it. Please explain to me the male mind.
28:47
Speaker 3: I'm not looking for some major PDA, just an arm
28:50
Speaker 3: around the waist or a little kiss on the cheek.
28:53
Speaker 3: Here in front of some people.
28:54
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, okay, yeah, I mean yeah, I'll I'll
28:58
Speaker 2: hold hands every now and then death I'll go if
29:01
Speaker 2: we're standing in a line somewhere, I'll do an arm
29:03
Speaker 2: around the waist like.
29:04
Speaker 1: I guess it's an insecurity thing.
29:05
Speaker 3: So he doesn't do any PDA when it's just YouTube,
29:08
Speaker 3: But when all the boys are around, he's like feeling
29:11
Speaker 3: like under threat, and he's.
29:12
Speaker 2: Like, that's funny. Though I would usually think it would
29:16
Speaker 2: be the opposite. In front of men, you wouldn't do it.
29:20
Speaker 3: Well, he doesn't trust his friends or the men, okay,
29:23
Speaker 3: or he thinks to be fair, maybe he thinks you're
29:26
Speaker 3: too bad for him. So he's got a like Marcus territory.
29:29
Speaker 1: It is interesting. I think, let's did she say she's
29:32
Speaker 1: brought it up with him? No, No, she just said
29:36
Speaker 1: that's all he does. They could just be like, I
29:38
Speaker 1: don't know, a situationship or something.
29:39
Speaker 4: Yeah.
29:40
Speaker 1: Look, I think it's as simple as like I've noticed.
29:43
Speaker 2: You know, when we're together in public, if it's just
29:47
Speaker 2: you and I and a bunch of randoms, you don't,
29:51
Speaker 2: you know, you don't really do any sort of PDA
29:53
Speaker 2: or anything. But when there's all like men around you
29:58
Speaker 2: do do a lot of PDA. See what he says, Yeah,
30:02
Speaker 2: because he might not know, and also the male mind.
30:05
Speaker 1: I don't like PDA at all.
30:08
Speaker 2: I'm not a huge fan.
30:09
Speaker 3: I get super uncomfortable just when there's a lot of
30:12
Speaker 3: people around. Yeah, or even if it's just say I
30:14
Speaker 3: went to dinner with Jake and Beth and Cassie started
30:16
Speaker 3: doing give me a bit of p DA in front
30:17
Speaker 3: of him, I would feel uncomfortable.
30:19
Speaker 2: No, okay, I think there's a funny thing about PDA
30:23
Speaker 2: in my mind. Right, So if we went on a
30:24
Speaker 2: double date, if anyone, if any of us just showed
30:28
Speaker 2: a public display of affection, I think it's rude because
30:32
Speaker 2: of how little amount of people are there. Yeah, Like
30:34
Speaker 2: if Beth and I started kissing and you and Cassie're
30:36
Speaker 2: on the other side of the table, that's insane.
30:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, Or if you're Cassie, the same thing.
30:40
Speaker 2: But if there was a group of ten and Beth
30:42
Speaker 2: and I have become like out of all conversations and
30:46
Speaker 2: I just gave a little kiss on the cheek, I
30:47
Speaker 2: don't think that's bad.
30:48
Speaker 1: I think I think that's fine.
30:49
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, it's how you do it because it's like,
30:50
Speaker 3: if we were walking somewhere, I'll just hold a hand,
30:52
Speaker 3: I'll do that. Yeah, but like I'm not gonna like
30:54
Speaker 3: wrap her around my arms and give her a massive heart.
30:56
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no no no no.
30:58
Speaker 2: So yeah, and I think like again, yeah, if you're
31:00
Speaker 2: out in public, maybe you've gone for your walking, little
31:02
Speaker 2: cheeky hot handhold you could do. I don't mind. Like
31:06
Speaker 2: if it's if I see a couple that's clearly just
31:08
Speaker 2: been on a date and they're at the back end
31:10
Speaker 2: of the day, they're going for a little walk looking
31:11
Speaker 2: at the Sydney Harbor or something around the shol Yeah.
31:14
Speaker 1: Yeah.
31:16
Speaker 3: I also think it comes down to communication in a
31:19
Speaker 3: sense of Cassie really likes it, and although I'm uncomfortable,
31:22
Speaker 3: I understand that she likes it, and I'll do it
31:24
Speaker 3: a little bit because that's her side of things too.
31:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, Beth and I both feel the same way about it,
31:30
Speaker 2: Like I'll do it, but see, like I would, I'm
31:33
Speaker 2: more likely to do it with Beth if there's randoms around,
31:37
Speaker 2: I know us give one little kiss right now, whatever,
31:40
Speaker 2: But if there's people we know around, that's more likely
31:43
Speaker 2: when we won't do it yeah, and I honestly think
31:46
Speaker 2: it's honestly like he's saying you're really really bad, like
31:51
Speaker 2: hot D.
31:52
Speaker 1: He's nervous that someone else is going to take you.
31:54
Speaker 1: I don't know. It is seeming semi territorial. Yeah, on
31:59
Speaker 1: the fence. It's like how a dog is subconscious as well,
32:02
Speaker 1: pisses outside the.
32:02
Speaker 3: Front of its house, Like yeah, I think it's as
32:07
Speaker 3: easy as just bringing it up with them, like I'm
32:09
Speaker 3: just unnoticed.
32:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, notice, And then he's gonna be like, oh, well,
32:12
Speaker 2: would you would you like me to show more like
32:14
Speaker 2: PDA and just random places? And that's when you say yes, yeah,
32:17
Speaker 2: yes please.
32:17
Speaker 1: I remember. Fuck.
32:19
Speaker 3: This is probably one of you know those nights you
32:22
Speaker 3: have when you just regret everything.
32:28
Speaker 1: There's only one night I'm thinking that you could be
32:30
Speaker 1: talking about.
32:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't remember anyone who was there because I
32:35
Speaker 3: was so pissed.
32:36
Speaker 1: You might have been there. It was at what's the
32:38
Speaker 1: bar where you play pool?
32:40
Speaker 2: Oh?
32:42
Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't know. Oh another one? Oh okay, no,
32:45
Speaker 1: I mustn't have been. I regret that, but that was
32:47
Speaker 1: still fun.
32:47
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, okay, okay, wait a second, wait now this
32:51
Speaker 3: one I was plasted.
32:53
Speaker 1: I don't know why.
32:54
Speaker 3: I was so drunk, but basically now then you just
32:57
Speaker 3: you just don't eat.
32:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just kidding it.
33:00
Speaker 3: We rocked up to a pool bar, all the boys,
33:03
Speaker 3: and we're thinking it was just gonna be pretty chill,
33:05
Speaker 3: but it.
33:05
Speaker 1: Was packed full of people. Everyone we know on the cone. Yeah,
33:08
Speaker 1: I'm trying.
33:08
Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember.
33:09
Speaker 3: At the time, I thought I was being like mad subtle,
33:12
Speaker 3: but like I saw a girl I knew I'd gotten
33:14
Speaker 3: with her previously.
33:15
Speaker 2: Oh my god, yeah, go on. Oh.
33:18
Speaker 3: I don't remember the exact layout, but there's like three
33:21
Speaker 3: pool tables and then like it was either a table
33:23
Speaker 3: or a seat, and we're just sitting in the corner.
33:26
Speaker 3: Everyone can fucking see us going to town hooking up,
33:29
Speaker 3: like going to fucking town.
33:31
Speaker 2: I remember this so clearly.
33:33
Speaker 3: Now, and I, oh my god, like I said, I
33:36
Speaker 3: fucking hate PDA.
33:38
Speaker 1: I woke up the next morning, I'm like, what what
33:42
Speaker 1: was I doing?
33:42
Speaker 3: And it wasn't like nice kiss and it was like
33:44
Speaker 3: fucking central hene to town.
33:48
Speaker 5: I remember playing pool and one of our friends were
33:51
Speaker 5: sitting right next to you, and his girlfriend was there,
33:55
Speaker 5: and I saw our friends sitting right there and I
33:58
Speaker 5: made eye contact.
33:58
Speaker 1: With him and he just got you know, he was
34:00
Speaker 1: like this.
34:00
Speaker 2: He was like like looking at you and then looking at.
34:02
Speaker 1: Me, and I was like, what's coming on.
34:04
Speaker 2: But here's the thing about Ottie, right, Here's the thing
34:08
Speaker 2: about Oddie is so, to be fair, Odi hasn't been
34:10
Speaker 2: drunk for a very long time, and so I haven't
34:12
Speaker 2: seen it for a very long time. And but when
34:16
Speaker 2: Otie gets to a certain level of drunk, he doesn't
34:20
Speaker 2: know who he is. Anyway, one time in Bali, it
34:24
Speaker 2: was Oddie, JJ, myself, JJ O other friend obviously, and
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Speaker 2: Oddie got so drunk we had to send you home.
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Speaker 1: And because you didn't know who you were, I want
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Speaker 1: to I want to actually ask J if he remember this.
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Speaker 5: I don't know how you got, but you got so
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Speaker 5: drunk you didn't remember who you were.
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Speaker 2: It was insane.
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Speaker 1: I remember.
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Speaker 3: The only little bit I remember of that was we
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Speaker 3: were walking back and you guys were trying to find
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Speaker 3: a gojack to send me home. Yes, yes, yes, And
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Speaker 3: someone recognized us and you were like, JJ's like not yes.
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Speaker 4: Jeh, oh my god, these two girls recognized us, and
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Speaker 4: I was trying this is this is probably we only
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Speaker 4: just started getting recognized, so we weren't good at it
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Speaker 4: yet like we didn't ask for names.
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Speaker 2: We didn't shake hands or hard green, like we didn't like,
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Speaker 2: we didn't you know, offer photos. We didn't. And so
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Speaker 2: they're like, hey, like big fans, and we were like
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Speaker 2: I was like trying to be like, you know, nice
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Speaker 2: and cool, and Addie stood there next to me just gone.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't remember that, yeah yeah.
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Speaker 1: And I was talking and I was like, JJ's gone, guys,
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Speaker 1: bad time.
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Speaker 2: This guy's maggot right now, Like you didn't.
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Speaker 1: Do anything bad. You just did not remember where you were.
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Speaker 1: I just do like stuff. I just like, isn't me?
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Speaker 1: It is it?
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Speaker 2: It was so funny. And I also remember thinking like
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Speaker 2: after we sent you home, I remember thinking, is he
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Speaker 2: gonna get home?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Should we have gone with him?
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Speaker 3: to reiterate on next week's topic for dilemmas, it is
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Speaker 3: I did something I regret, so thank you so much
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