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Tammy Hembrow Adheres to Strict Wedding Rules, A Micro-Influencer’s Restaurant Rant Backfires And Anna Paul's Nosey Neighbours · Outspoken the Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken, it's your dose of the
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Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. Coming
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Speaker 1: up on today's show, Anna Paul reveals she no longer
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Speaker 1: feels safe in her current rental, Molly Mae is slammed
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Speaker 1: for booking a budget airline for her sister's hands, and
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Speaker 1: a micro-influencer's expose on a restaurant backfires on her. But first,
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Speaker 1: Anna McAvoy's destination wedding was thrown into chaos when a
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Speaker 1: sandstorm threatened to ground flights and interrupt her upcoming nuptials
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Speaker 1: to her fiancé, Michael Staples. Anna shared the news with
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Speaker 1: her TikTok followers while she and Michael were grounded on
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Speaker 1: the tarmac in Istanbul. Here's what she said. So we
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Speaker 1: are getting married in Corfu, Greece, in four days, and
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Speaker 1: there is a sand storm over the island of Corfu.
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Speaker 1: We are currently on the tarmac. We've been grounded.
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Speaker 2: From taking off, so.
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Speaker 1: Pray for us and pray for our guests that everyone
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Speaker 1: can get there because this was not planned and not
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Speaker 1: expected at all.
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Speaker 3: This seems to be a bit of a trend at
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Speaker 3: the moment with influencers and destination weddings. Recently, Rachel Dillon
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Speaker 3: actually had to move her wedding forward because of rain
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Speaker 3: in Italy. A bit of a first world problem for influencers,
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Speaker 3: but this would have been very stressful. I didn't realise
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Speaker 3: how chaotic a sandstorm actually is.
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Speaker 1: I googled it. And it turns the whole sky orange.
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Speaker 1: So it would have completely ruined their day. Also, it
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Speaker 1: would be really difficult for guests to actually be able
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Speaker 1: to land safely at the airport. Luckily, a day later,
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Speaker 1: Anna updated her followers to say that it was crisis
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Speaker 1: averted and that the storm had passed. She said the
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Speaker 1: sky was no longer orange, but it was still a
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Speaker 1: little bit cloudy there.
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Speaker 3: An orange sky actually sounds quite nice for sunset style photos.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm assuming they're more worried about flights not
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Speaker 1: being able to land. Yeah, well, luckily she did confirm
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Speaker 1: that it hadn't affected any of the guests traveling there,
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Speaker 1: which was such a relief because I have been hanging
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Speaker 1: out for Tammy and Matt's content in Greece. They always
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Speaker 1: seem to keep things entertaining for us whilst they're overseeing.
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Speaker 3: And you are referring to Tammy Hembrough and Anna's co-host,
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Speaker 3: Matt Zukowski. I was wondering how Anna felt about having
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Speaker 3: to invite Tammy because she has been posting a lot
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Speaker 3: of content while she's been in Corfu, almost overshadowing.
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Speaker 1: It a little bit. Well, I have seen that discussion
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Speaker 1: going on online because Tammy has been sharing a lot.
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Speaker 1: So she shared a TikTok at the airport showing that
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Speaker 1: she and Matt were traveling child-free online. And it did
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Speaker 1: make me laugh because Matt brought his Love Island suitcase
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Speaker 1: along with him on the trip.
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Speaker 3: Did he bring his drink bottle as well?
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Speaker 1: Not sure about the drink bottle. But when they were
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Speaker 1: at the couple's welcome dinner, because they had this fancy
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Speaker 1: welcome dinner on the beach. And there was this weird
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Speaker 1: photo of Tammy and Matt kissing and Anna and her
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Speaker 1: fiance kissing. So they were both in the same photo.
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Speaker 1: And she captioned it, love is in the air. It
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Speaker 1: kind of felt like a bit me, me, me, like
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Speaker 1: we're getting married next. This is all about us.
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Speaker 3: It kind of reminded me on Friends when Monica and
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Speaker 3: Phoebe were competing over who the hottest couple was.
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Speaker 2: Like that was the vibe.
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Speaker 1: You really got from the photo. Yeah, but I don't
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Speaker 1: know if she was necessarily doing that. I think it's
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Speaker 1: more so because they are part of this podcast that
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Speaker 1: talks about love and relationship. It's kind of like they're
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Speaker 1: showing off that they've both now got these successful relationships. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: but I mean I don't know about you, but I've
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Speaker 1: never had friends who– Say, oh, let's take a photo
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Speaker 1: of both of us kissing. No, I think the event
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Speaker 1: is about Anna and her partner, not about Tammy and Matt.
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Speaker 1: And while Tammy probably isn't trying to make it about herself,
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Speaker 1: because she has millions and millions of followers on social media,
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Speaker 1: people are going to be focusing on her. But if
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Speaker 1: Tammy didn't share anything while she was over there, she'd
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Speaker 1: probably get slammed. Yeah, but she could share vision or
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Speaker 1: photos of Anna and Michael.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's going to bomb on her own social
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Speaker 2: media account.
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Speaker 1: It's her Instagram story. Yeah, but no one cares about them.
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Speaker 1: They care about Tammy.
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Speaker 3: I actually get the vibe that Anna's scared about what
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Speaker 3: Tammy is going to share to her millions of followers
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Speaker 3: because Matt and Anna on the most recent episode of
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Speaker 3: their podcast had a conversation about the etiquette around what
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Speaker 3: can and can't be shared before the bride puts up
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Speaker 3: her post.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was really interesting. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So Anna basically said that no one is allowed to
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Speaker 3: share anything about her wedding until she posts. And that
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Speaker 3: includes the location, you know, details of the event, anything.
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Speaker 2: I think the.
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Speaker 1: Reason that everyone is building up this rivalry between the
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Speaker 1: two couples is because Matt previously said on his podcast
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Speaker 1: that he was considering proposing to Tammy whilst on Anna's
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Speaker 1: wedding trip, but he opted instead to do it in
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Speaker 1: the Maldives last year. And I think that's why everyone
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Speaker 1: is feeling a bit uncomfortable and thinking, please don't take
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Speaker 1: their moment away from them, particularly when Tammy and Matt
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Speaker 1: have only been together for such a short period of time.
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Speaker 3: Now, Anna did drop a bit of a bomb on
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Speaker 3: the most recent episode of her and Matt's podcast, She
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Speaker 3: revealed that she actually got married before she left for
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Speaker 3: Corfu in a registry office. And the reason she did
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Speaker 3: that was because she has an uneven amount of bridesmaids
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Speaker 3: and groomsmen. So she has an extra groomsman and she
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Speaker 3: was worried that the Feng Shui of the ceremony was
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Speaker 3: going to be thrown off. So she has asked one
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Speaker 3: of the groomsmen to be a celebrant. However, they're not
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Speaker 3: actually officiated. So that's why she had to get married
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Speaker 3: in Australia beforehand.
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Speaker 1: That sounds all very odd though. I mean, wouldn't you
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Speaker 1: just think maybe I'll add an extra bridesmaid instead of
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Speaker 1: making them the celebrant? Also, does it really matter? Like
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Speaker 1: does it really matter that much that it's an odd number?
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Speaker 2: It's a personal decision.
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Speaker 3: I felt so uncomfortable listening to this podcast though because
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Speaker 3: Matt asked Anna about what it was like consummating.
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Speaker 2: The registry office marriage.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And he seemed very interested.
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Speaker 3: In the lingerie that Anna had purchased from for her honeymoon.
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Speaker 3: And I'm just thinking, oh, I just got a really
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Speaker 3: slimy vibe off the whole conversation.
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Speaker 1: It was like his mouth was drooling when he asked
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Speaker 1: her that question. Maybe he thinks he's asking what everyone
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Speaker 1: wants to know that's listening.
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Speaker 2: Nah, it was beyond that.
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Speaker 3: Was it just me or was it really frustrating that
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Speaker 3: he couldn't seem to understand the difference between a registry
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Speaker 3: wedding and an elopement?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he kept calling it a runaway wedding. And she's like, no,
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Speaker 1: it's not a runaway. It's just that we had to
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Speaker 1: do it at a registry office so that it would
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Speaker 1: be legally binding.
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Speaker 3: And he also came across as really immature talking about
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Speaker 3: weddings because Anna was saying how, oh, I feel so
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Speaker 3: old because a lot of my friends aren't married.
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Speaker 2: And he was like, oh, yeah. And it's like, you're engaged, buddy.
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Speaker 2: You know what you're not doing?
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Speaker 4: You're not treating yourself like a baby when you should be.
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Speaker 4: When you're sad, when you're going through something, you need
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Speaker 4: to treat yourself like the five-year-old version of you.
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Speaker 3: Anna Paul has revealed she's moving house at the end
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Speaker 3: of the month because she no longer feels safe in
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Speaker 3: her current rental. Despite living in a gated community, the
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Speaker 3: OnlyFans creator still experiences people within the community taking photos
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Speaker 3: of her house, knocking on her door and asking for
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Speaker 3: pictures in the driveway. So a follower actually messaged Anna
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Speaker 3: suggesting that she moved to an acreage. But Anna replied,
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Speaker 3: I get followed on my way home though. People only
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Speaker 3: turn around at the community gate when they can't get in.
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Speaker 3: I'd be scared on an acreage that they can just
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Speaker 3: drive up into my driveway.
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Speaker 1: It's crazy to think that some influencers have this level
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Speaker 1: of fame where they're being followed to their houses and
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Speaker 1: people are knocking on their doors, asking for photos. I'm
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Speaker 1: not particularly surprised in the case of Anna Paul though,
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Speaker 1: that people are easily able to find her because she
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Speaker 1: does post her white car online all of the time.
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Speaker 1: She also encourages people to use whiteboard markers and ride
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Speaker 1: on her car. Yeah, but it doesn't give people the
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Speaker 1: right to then go and follow her to her house. No,
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Speaker 1: definitely not. I think what's scary in this instance is
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Speaker 1: that a lot of people would view Anna as their
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Speaker 1: friend because they keep up with what she's doing every
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Speaker 1: single day with her vlogs. And it obviously is creating
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Speaker 1: this really weird parasocial relationship with her and her fans.
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Speaker 3: I have noticed her daily vlogs have dropped off quite
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Speaker 3: a bit. So I'm wondering if this is a contributor because.
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Speaker 2: We.
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Speaker 3: Saw back in 2016 when Kim Kardashian was robbed in
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Speaker 3: Paris how that completely changed the way she posted online.
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Speaker 3: She no longer wanted to post live updates. And influencers
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Speaker 3: probably do need to consider what they're posting live and
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Speaker 3: what they choose to then air later on for their
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Speaker 3: own safety.
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Speaker 1: It'd be particularly tough for Anna because her persona online
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Speaker 1: is that she's very kind, she's friendly to fans, she's
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Speaker 1: bubbly all the time. But you don't want to have
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Speaker 1: to act like that every time someone knocks on your
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Speaker 1: door and invades your privacy.
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Speaker 3: Particularly in a gated community. Another big motivator for this
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Speaker 3: move is the need for more space. So currently Anna's
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Speaker 3: iconic green BMW doesn't actually fit in the garage at
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Speaker 3: the rental and it's in storage. So Anna said her
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Speaker 3: new house will have a big garage and she'll be
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Speaker 3: able to store her cars all there. I've also seen
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Speaker 3: on her TikTok that her clothes don't fit in the wardrobe.
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Speaker 3: So she and her family have just been leaving them
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Speaker 3: to pile up in the laundry room.
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Speaker 1: I'm surprised she hasn't actually bought her own house, but
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Speaker 1: I'm now wondering if she purposely hasn't bought a property
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Speaker 1: because of this issue of people seemingly finding out where
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Speaker 1: she lives.
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Speaker 3: I would assume she would own some investment properties, but
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Speaker 3: because of the lifestyle that she leads, she is overseas
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Speaker 3: a lot. So maybe rentals just work better for her.
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Speaker 1: Especially having Addis, you know, back in 2020, he was
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Speaker 1: one of those finance bros handing out advice. Surely he
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Speaker 1: would have given her the advice to invest in property. Well,
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Speaker 1: Anna has also opened up about her weight loss. So
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Speaker 1: In a Snapchat Q & A, which I think is
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Speaker 1: interesting in itself that she's posting on Snapchat, she admitted
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Speaker 1: that she was struggling and not in a good place.
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Speaker 2: For a while.
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Speaker 3: So she said that she lost her period for eight
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Speaker 3: months and was so, so, so skinny and so malnourished
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Speaker 3: because of stress and sadness. She wrote, it happened so fast,
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Speaker 3: I didn't even recognize myself. My boobs completely deflated and
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Speaker 3: were just loose skin and none of my clothes fit
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Speaker 3: me anymore. The internet still comments ozempic on my photos
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Speaker 3: and videos but this is just what stress can do
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Speaker 3: to you. Fortunately it does appear like Anna has turned
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Speaker 3: a corner. She said that she's eating right and is
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Speaker 3: happy and no longer stressed. She also said that she's
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Speaker 3: getting stronger and stronger and goes to the gym four
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Speaker 3: to five times a week.
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Speaker 1: And this weight loss coincided with her breakup with Glenn Thompson.
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Speaker 1: It is something that does happen to you or a
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Speaker 1: lot of people when they go through a breakup. I
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Speaker 1: know when I went through a breakup without even trying to,
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Speaker 1: I lost so much weight because I was just so upset,
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Speaker 1: so stressed about the situation. But it is hard as
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Speaker 1: well when you see somebody that's in the public eye
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Speaker 1: suddenly losing all of this weight because I saw a
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Speaker 1: photo that she recently shared And I noticed that the
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Speaker 1: comments were off and I assumed it was because everyone
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Speaker 1: was commenting ozempic, but it is where your mind first
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Speaker 1: goes when somebody loses weight so rapidly.
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Speaker 3: Particularly because she and Glenn really pushed this narrative that
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Speaker 3: the breakup was so amicable and that they were both
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Speaker 3: really happy. But clearly behind the scenes, that has not
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Speaker 3: been the case. Anna also did open up recently about
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Speaker 3: breakup advice. So one of her followers asked how she
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Speaker 3: got through her breakup with Glenn and she said that,
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Speaker 3: you need to treat yourself like an actual baby. So
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Speaker 3: she said, treat yourself like you're five years old and
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Speaker 3: someone was mean to you at school.
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Speaker 1: So she suggested talking to yourself like a child and
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Speaker 1: acting like it's your only job to make your five-year-old
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Speaker 1: self feel good.
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Speaker 3: So she said, you know, maybe you like iced coffee,
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Speaker 3: go get yourself an iced coffee. And she said the
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Speaker 3: rationale behind it is that your five-year-old self, and she
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Speaker 3: said the rationale behind it is that your five-year-old self
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Speaker 3: is still in you and hurting.
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Speaker 2: That's kind of good advice.
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Speaker 1: I remember Kate back in the day when you were
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Speaker 1: having issues in your past relationship, when you were upset,
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Speaker 1: you said that you used to just lie in bed
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Speaker 1: and pretend you were a phone charging, like recharging your batteries.
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Speaker 1: So I suppose maybe that was before all of this
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Speaker 1: meditation stuff. That was my own meditation because it did
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Speaker 1: really help because sometimes you just don't want to face
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Speaker 1: the emotions that you're feeling. So you're like, I'm currently
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Speaker 1: switched off and I'm charging.
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Speaker 2: I'm on airplane mode.
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Speaker 4: I am so excited for this vlog because as you've
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Speaker 4: seen from the title, this is going to be Zoe's
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Speaker 4: hen do vlog. So if you don't know who Zoe is,
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Speaker 4: which I think a lot of you probably will, Zoe.
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Speaker 1: Is my sister. Molly May has thrown an epic hen's
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Speaker 1: weekend for her sister Zoe Haig in Ibiza. Tongues were
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Speaker 1: wagging as the former Love Island contestant used the trip
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Speaker 1: as an opportunity to post a ton of thirst traps
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Speaker 1: as she dodges breakup rumours. Now, Soph, this weekend kicked
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Speaker 1: off with some fans being outraged at Molly's choice of transport. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: fans seem to think it was a bit cheeky of
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Speaker 1: Molly to book a budget airline for her sister's hen's weekend.
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Speaker 2: When you say budget, it was Ryanair.
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Speaker 3: That would be like, some influencer in Australia booking a
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Speaker 3: tiger flight. I know that they're defunct now, but that
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Speaker 3: is the level of transportation.
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Speaker 1: But am I wrong? Wouldn't the other guests be paying
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Speaker 1: for the airfare? So wouldn't it have been a bit
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Speaker 1: rich of Molly if she'd booked in a private jet
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Speaker 1: and forced everyone to pay the fees? The thing is,
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Speaker 1: Molly is the maid of honor. So she has planned
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Speaker 1: the whole weekend and I guess she probably has funded
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Speaker 1: a lot of it as well because she earns so
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Speaker 1: much money. She did share a photo on Instagram showing
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Speaker 1: the group on the tarmac getting ready to board the
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Speaker 1: Ryanair flight. And this led to followers weighing in. One wrote,
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Speaker 1: love you, Molly, but your friend gets a private jet
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Speaker 1: for her B-day, but your sister doesn't for her hens.
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Speaker 1: I'd be raging. Whilst another said, it makes me giggle
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Speaker 1: that Molly got a jet for her mate's birthday, but
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Speaker 1: Ryanair for her sister's hens.
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Speaker 3: That is the thing that I thought immediately as well,
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Speaker 3: because I loved watching the recent vlogs where Molly took
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Speaker 3: her friends to this beautiful ski.
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Speaker 2: Town and they were on a private jet. Zoe was there.
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Speaker 3: And I was expecting when Molly started sharing behind the
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Speaker 3: scenes of this hens that they would be walking onto.
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Speaker 2: A private jet.
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Speaker 1: So I was flabbergasted when it was Ryanair. But she
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Speaker 1: probably copped so much criticism for taking her friends on
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Speaker 1: that private jet that they thought, fuck, we don't really
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Speaker 1: want to be dealing with all this backlash when it's
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Speaker 1: Zoe's hens. Let's just go Ryanair.
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Speaker 2: Exactly.
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Speaker 1: Not just for the most recent time on the jet,
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Speaker 1: but in the past she has copped so much criticism
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Speaker 1: with fans asking her to think about her carbon footprint
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Speaker 1: or saying that she is flaunting her wealth so it
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Speaker 1: wouldn't have been a good look to back it up
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Speaker 1: again it is interesting though that this strategy of oh
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Speaker 1: let's just go on a normal budget airline seems to
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Speaker 1: have backfired it's like you can't win yeah no but
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Speaker 1: I do think it has something to do with the
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Speaker 1: fact that a lot of Molly's followers also follow Zoe
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Speaker 1: and I think that people have a soft spot for
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Speaker 1: Zoe because she seems sort of like the more normal
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Speaker 1: Molly May like she doesn't live in this huge mansion
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Speaker 1: and she's a bit more of a normal person. So
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Speaker 1: I think they feel like she's been shortchanged. Well, the
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Speaker 1: funny thing about these hens is it was the furthest
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Speaker 1: from a budget hens that you can get. She pulled
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Speaker 1: out all of the stops to ensure that her sister
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Speaker 1: was absolutely spoiled. So the group checked into a luxurious
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Speaker 1: villa where Molly had arranged for the pool to be
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Speaker 1: filled with heart-shaped inflatable rings. And she also organized these
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Speaker 1: really cute hangover packs. So they had rehydration sachets in
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Speaker 1: them as well as a beauty bag. And they also
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Speaker 1: went on a very lavish boat trip, as well as
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Speaker 1: partied in the VIP section of a number of different nightclubs.
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Speaker 1: So Molly really did go above and beyond to make
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Speaker 1: this a special weekend for her sister. Molly must have
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Speaker 1: spent a fortune on this trip because she did have
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Speaker 1: her security team fly.
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Speaker 2: Over with her as well.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's clear that she didn't want anything to ruin
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Speaker 3: this trip. She has had to have security follow her
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Speaker 3: around ever since her and Tommy's apartment got.
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Speaker 2: Robbed a couple of years ago.
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Speaker 3: Maybe she was also scared to be away on this
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Speaker 3: girl's trip without Tommy.
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Speaker 1: There, especially if they're drinking and partying. Now, this trip
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Speaker 1: has come off the back of persistent rumors for weeks
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Speaker 1: now that Tommy and Molly have split up. So Tommy
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Speaker 1: and Molly, they have been together since 2019 when they
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Speaker 1: came second on Love Island and they got engaged last
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Speaker 1: year and also share a daughter together. So the breakup
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Speaker 1: rumors were sparked on May 5th. when Molly posted a
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Speaker 1: selfie without her $ 600, 000 diamond engagement ring on. And following that,
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Speaker 1: her ring was also missing in subsequent stories. It wasn't
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Speaker 1: as though she was trying to hide her hand though,
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Speaker 1: because she shared a close-up of her hand wearing two
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Speaker 1: other rings. So a ring on her index finger and
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Speaker 1: a middle finger ring to show off her fresh nails.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but everyone's always trying to spot if she's wearing
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Speaker 3: this ring. I actually think it comes down to the
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Speaker 3: fact that the ring is obnoxiously big and would be
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Speaker 3: so uncomfortable to wear and perhaps probably not safe for
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Speaker 3: her to wear out in public considering it costs so
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Speaker 3: much money and she could be robbed.
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Speaker 1: Well, people found it weird because Tommy was 3,000 miles
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Speaker 1: away in Dubai. He was there because his brother Tyson
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Speaker 1: is fighting in a boxing match.
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Speaker 3: I love how you're like, oh, just some boxing match.
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Speaker 3: Tyson Fury was competing there. for the title of heavyweight
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Speaker 3: world champion.
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Speaker 2: He did lose it as well.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't care about that. We just want to
16:46
Speaker 1: hear the gossip. There are other reasons though, that people
16:49
Speaker 1: think a breakup has happened. One is because it was
16:52
Speaker 1: recently Tommy's 25th birthday. And usually Molly would post a
16:56
Speaker 1: very gushing post on Instagram and She'd share some elaborate
17:00
Speaker 1: balloon installation that she'd pay people to set up. But
17:03
Speaker 1: this year, didn't post anything.
17:05
Speaker 2: How is he only 25?
17:06
Speaker 3: I know. It's crazy.
17:07
Speaker 1: Well, she also didn't publicly congratulate Tommy for landing a
17:11
Speaker 1: role in an upcoming comedy movie. So this is what
17:14
Speaker 1: has sparked a lot of speculation. And what has pushed
17:17
Speaker 1: it further is the fact that Molly May was posting
17:21
Speaker 1: a ton of thirst traps at this hen's party. She
17:24
Speaker 1: looked incredible. She has spoken about before that she doesn't
17:27
Speaker 1: usually feel comfortable wearing bikinis, but on this trip, she
17:31
Speaker 1: lived in bikinis. There's a shot of her in a
17:33
Speaker 1: cowboy hat with a black bikini on. Oh my God.
17:36
Speaker 2: She looked insane.
17:37
Speaker 3: Don't you think this is a part of brand deals though?
17:40
Speaker 3: Like she's obviously been dressed to go on this trip
17:42
Speaker 3: and has to take photos of what she's wearing. I
17:44
Speaker 3: also think it might coincide with the fact that she,
17:47
Speaker 3: I think she hired a personal trainer about six months
17:50
Speaker 3: ago and maybe she's finally feeling confident.
17:52
Speaker 2: In her own body.
17:53
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, the catch is in these photos, she is
17:56
Speaker 1: wearing her very large engagement ring. And once she got
17:59
Speaker 1: back to the UK and she squashed the rumors completely
18:02
Speaker 1: by sharing a photo of Tommy with a little white
18:05
Speaker 1: love heart and a house emoji. So I am relieved.
18:09
Speaker 1: They are my favorite influencer couple. Thank God they are
18:11
Speaker 1: not on the rocks. Yeah.
18:13
Speaker 2: It's just a trend.
18:14
Speaker 3: Every time she's spotted without her engagement ring on, people
18:16
Speaker 3: are going to write these rumors because at the end
18:19
Speaker 3: of the day, people actually don't want them to be together.
18:23
Speaker 3: I think there's quite a lot of jealousy about this
18:25
Speaker 3: relationship and It's just clickbait as well. Yeah, people don't
18:29
Speaker 3: want to believe it's as good as they make out
18:31
Speaker 3: it to be.
18:31
Speaker 4: This is a PSA for all creators who work with food, travel, lifestyle, blah, blah, blah.
18:37
Speaker 4: I received the most horrible message yesterday from a restaurant
18:39
Speaker 4: wanting to work with them and I need to make
18:41
Speaker 4: you aware so you guys never work with them and
18:42
Speaker 4: know your standards.
18:44
Speaker 3: A micro-influencer's attempt to expose a restaurant for apparent rude
18:49
Speaker 3: and unprofessional behaviour has backfired. Jamison May, who promotes herself
18:54
Speaker 3: as a travel, lifestyle, fashion and food creator, reached out
18:58
Speaker 3: to Melbourne vegetarian restaurant Patsy's regarding a collaboration.
19:02
Speaker 2: She was left fuming.
19:03
Speaker 3: Though when the restaurant replied saying, you don't seem to
19:06
Speaker 3: have any followers. Maybe you should approach us when you
19:09
Speaker 3: have over 100K. How many followers does she have? So
19:13
Speaker 3: she has a main Instagram account where she posts fashion
19:16
Speaker 3: content and on that account she has 15,000. However, she
19:20
Speaker 3: posts her food and travel content on a separate account
19:24
Speaker 3: which only has 1.1 thousand followers.
19:25
Speaker 1: That's alarm bells for me. Why are you having to
19:28
Speaker 1: have two separate Instagram accounts? Yeah, well, I can see
19:30
Speaker 1: why the restaurant told her to go get more followers. Now,
19:33
Speaker 1: Jamison replied writing, sorry, but that is extremely rude. And
19:37
Speaker 1: the restaurant hit back with this, perhaps, but you are
19:41
Speaker 1: pretending to be influential on social media and that's not true.
19:45
Speaker 1: And rather than me saying that you are lying and
19:47
Speaker 1: pretending to be beneficial to our business, I just said,
19:49
Speaker 1: come back when you're actually able to do what you
19:52
Speaker 1: think we should engage you to do. Is it rude
19:54
Speaker 1: to question something that's obviously not true? Now you can
19:57
Speaker 1: tell in.
19:57
Speaker 3: The screenshot that Jamison then blocked the restaurant.
20:01
Speaker 1: This restaurant owner is 100% correct. If you are approaching
20:06
Speaker 1: a restaurant and you don't have a large following, but
20:09
Speaker 1: you're giving it the big end that you're going to
20:11
Speaker 1: benefit their restaurant highly by promoting their food, that is
20:15
Speaker 1: a flat out lie. So why can't they call it
20:18
Speaker 1: out and say, sorry, you actually don't have the metrics
20:20
Speaker 1: for us to have you in for a free meal
20:22
Speaker 1: or for to pay you to eat here. The nerve
20:24
Speaker 1: of her to actually ask as well with that kind
20:27
Speaker 1: of follower count. Yeah.
20:29
Speaker 3: Well, rather than taking the feedback on board, Jamison took
20:32
Speaker 3: to her TikTok to blast the restaurant.
20:34
Speaker 2: In an almost three minute rant.
20:36
Speaker 3: So she framed it as a PSA to other content creators,
20:40
Speaker 3: but it was quite clear she was just trying to
20:41
Speaker 3: name and shame the restaurant. So Jamison explained that she
20:44
Speaker 3: sent her usual template to Patsy's but personalized it to
20:48
Speaker 3: tell them what she thinks they're missing and what she
20:50
Speaker 3: can do for them.
20:51
Speaker 2: She then said this.
20:53
Speaker 4: And I'm absolutely gobsmacked. I had no words. I was
20:58
Speaker 4: actually like disgusted that someone could say that to another person.
21:02
Speaker 4: Like this is clearly someone not in marketing. They don't
21:04
Speaker 4: understand literally anything.
21:08
Speaker 3: Now, Jamison went on to say that for Yonks, the
21:10
Speaker 3: follower count does not matter and it's all about your
21:13
Speaker 3: audience engagement and reach. She then said, my engagement and reach,
21:16
Speaker 3: considering I have a small follower count, is really, really good.
21:20
Speaker 1: She didn't actually cite her engagement and reach stats. So
21:23
Speaker 1: I would have thought that if they were so good,
21:26
Speaker 1: you would say what they are. Yeah, but also when
21:28
Speaker 1: you have a lower follower count, your engagement is always
21:31
Speaker 1: going to be better. She's probably got a lot of
21:33
Speaker 1: family and friends that are part of her follower count
21:36
Speaker 1: that are liking all of her posts and engaging with it. Yeah,
21:39
Speaker 1: she also addressed the comment about lying about being influential
21:42
Speaker 1: and said.
21:43
Speaker 4: This, And then the second message where they tell me
21:46
Speaker 4: I'm pretending to be influential. That's not the point. The
21:49
Speaker 4: point is to get people to go through creating fun,
21:53
Speaker 4: loving content. It's to like, yes, it's to influence them
21:56
Speaker 4: to go. But that could pop up on the For
21:58
Speaker 4: You page and get over a million views while I
21:59
Speaker 4: have 300 followers. That's really not how it works. But
22:03
Speaker 4: I was just disgusted in the way that they said it.
22:05
Speaker 4: I think that's what actually pissed me off more.
22:09
Speaker 1: She's clearly got this restaurant offside with her initial email
22:13
Speaker 1: because she has said that she outlined to them the
22:16
Speaker 1: things that they were doing wrong in marketing and how
22:18
Speaker 1: they could improve. And it's like, well, they've come back
22:20
Speaker 1: and said, well, maybe you're not marketing yourself that well
22:23
Speaker 1: as an influencer considering you've got a thousand followers.
22:25
Speaker 3: And also they must get so many emails like this.
22:28
Speaker 3: I did have a look at Jamison's page and the
22:30
Speaker 3: attention that she's gotten off the back of this story
22:33
Speaker 3: seems to have skewed the views on her most recent
22:36
Speaker 3: reel because it is sitting at 895,000 views. However, the
22:38
Speaker 3: rest of her reels range from 500 views to.
22:43
Speaker 2: To a couple of thousand.
22:44
Speaker 3: And I went a step further and I looked Jamison's
22:47
Speaker 3: account up on Social Blade, which is a social media
22:50
Speaker 3: analysis website. And I can't view her engagement rate because
22:53
Speaker 3: her likes are set to private. So if she has
22:56
Speaker 3: such a good engagement rate, then why is she hiding
22:58
Speaker 3: her likes?
22:58
Speaker 1: Outrage culture is so rife at the moment and it's
23:02
Speaker 1: actually making a lot of micro influences more popular. So
23:06
Speaker 1: They are seizing the opportunity to be outraged about something.
23:10
Speaker 1: As you said, Kate, it is skewing her engagement rate
23:12
Speaker 1: at the moment. In actual fact, it's the restaurant who
23:16
Speaker 1: should be outraged. Well, maybe they should have shared a
23:18
Speaker 1: TikTok of their response to receiving her email. And their
23:21
Speaker 1: TikTok would have blown up. I would have loved to
23:23
Speaker 1: see that. Well, their response was pretty epic back. And
23:26
Speaker 1: I think that's why the backlash has been so swift
23:29
Speaker 1: against Jamison because she went out to name and shame them.
23:33
Speaker 1: but it's her that's actually ended up being criticized on TikTok.
23:36
Speaker 1: So she was labeled, entitled, and accused of trying to
23:39
Speaker 1: get free stuff, so much so that she was actually
23:41
Speaker 1: forced to turn the comments off on her original post. Now,
23:44
Speaker 1: rather than taking, again, that feedback on board, she claimed
23:48
Speaker 1: that it was just because her content reached the wrong
23:50
Speaker 1: audience on TikTok. So she said it was served to
23:53
Speaker 1: non-creators and influencers who didn't understand what was happening. Now,
23:57
Speaker 1: in all due respect, we live in a social media world.
24:01
Speaker 3: People understand the relationship between content.
24:03
Speaker 2: Creators and brands.
24:04
Speaker 3: So I think that she is really trying to make a.
24:07
Speaker 2: Lot of excuses here.
24:09
Speaker 1: Do you think in this instance, though, it will actually
24:11
Speaker 1: help her social media career? Because a video blowing up
24:14
Speaker 1: like that, she's obviously got some attention. It's ricocheted into
24:18
Speaker 1: people then watching her most recent TikTok video as well. Well,
24:22
Speaker 1: I did go over to her Instagram account and she
24:25
Speaker 1: was excitedly sharing how a lot of traditional media outlets
24:28
Speaker 1: had reached out for her for an interview. And at first,
24:32
Speaker 1: I think she thought it was going to be really positive.
24:35
Speaker 1: But once the story started coming out and it was
24:37
Speaker 1: skewed negatively towards her, she's actually gone on a break
24:40
Speaker 1: from social media. Now, the owners of Patsy's have come
24:44
Speaker 1: out and said it was an obvious decision for them
24:46
Speaker 1: not to work with Jamison given her follower profile. They
24:50
Speaker 1: said her followers are not really people that we have
24:53
Speaker 1: in the venue often and probably not the market that
24:55
Speaker 1: we are looking to engage with. I think she was
24:58
Speaker 1: just hoping to increase her visibility with.
25:00
Speaker 2: These outraged posts.
25:01
Speaker 3: It sort of has worked already, but I'm not sure
25:03
Speaker 3: how it will be able to be monetized as marketing.
25:06
Speaker 3: I tend to agree with them. I also think that
25:08
Speaker 3: the PR is better for patsies because I look at
25:12
Speaker 3: them and go, oh, I really liked that clap back.
25:14
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll go there when I'm in Melbourne.
25:16
Speaker 4: Yeah.
25:16
Speaker 1: And you assume that anyone posting about the restaurant actually
25:19
Speaker 1: genuinely likes it in the future and then just being
25:22
Speaker 1: like going in for a free meal.
25:26
Speaker 4: We're going to wake Stormia and get out of here
25:30
Speaker 4: and show you guys her room.
25:32
Speaker 1: Rise and shine.
25:35
Speaker 3: Let's get into the highs and lows of the week.
25:38
Speaker 2: I will kick us off.
25:39
Speaker 3: My high is finding a dupe for MAC Studio Fix Foundation.
25:44
Speaker 2: I love that foundation.
25:45
Speaker 3: It is top tier. I've been using it ever since
25:48
Speaker 3: I was 18. However, It is quite pricey. And when
25:52
Speaker 3: I am just bumming around the house, maybe popping to
25:55
Speaker 3: Coles and going for a dog walk, I want a
25:56
Speaker 3: foundation that isn't going to cost me a lot. So
26:00
Speaker 3: I did some Googling and I found that the Maybelline
26:03
Speaker 3: Fit Me Foundation is apparently a good dupe, but I'm
26:06
Speaker 3: always a little bit suspicious. Mark my words, it is
26:10
Speaker 3: a great dupe. So I got the matte and poreless
26:13
Speaker 3: version of the Fit Me Foundation. It's only $ 13 on
26:16
Speaker 3: sale at the moment.
26:18
Speaker 1: It is so good.
26:20
Speaker 3: I would say Mac Studio Fix is better in terms
26:23
Speaker 3: of durability.
26:24
Speaker 2: You can wear it for longer, but it is a
26:26
Speaker 2: great dupe for it.
26:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got some and I was really impressed with it.
26:30
Speaker 3: Now my low for the week is pregnancy sleep. I
26:33
Speaker 3: am 35 weeks pregnant at the moment and sleep is
26:36
Speaker 3: not easy. I need to get up and go to
26:38
Speaker 3: the toilet all the time. When you are pregnant, you
26:41
Speaker 3: can't lie on your back or obviously your stomach. And
26:44
Speaker 3: I love lying on my stomach. So I'm having to
26:46
Speaker 3: lie on my side and I saw this hilarious TikTok
26:49
Speaker 3: that I could not relate to more. It said that
26:51
Speaker 3: when you're pregnant, it feels like you're a hot dog
26:54
Speaker 3: on one of those rotation heaters in America where you're
26:57
Speaker 3: just going back and forth.
26:59
Speaker 2: It is so true.
27:00
Speaker 3: However, what is making me feel slightly better is TikTok.
27:04
Speaker 2: Is telling me that apparently.
27:05
Speaker 3: Pregnancy sleep is worse than sleep with a newborn. So
27:09
Speaker 3: that might sound delusional.
27:12
Speaker 1: We'll revisit this in a few weeks time.
27:15
Speaker 3: I'm a little bit worried, but I'm hoping that is true.
27:18
Speaker 1: Do you regret not buying the pregnancy pillow now?
27:21
Speaker 3: No, I've been pushing through with my Squishmallow Simon.
27:24
Speaker 1: Do you also regret not buying maternity clothes? I actually
27:28
Speaker 1: purchased two NBA jumpers from Cotton On that I will
27:32
Speaker 1: be wearing no doubt a lot in our videos coming up. But, yes, Amy,
27:36
Speaker 1: you did tell me how terrible I looked the other
27:38
Speaker 1: day in my jumper that I have been thrashing because
27:40
Speaker 1: it's literally– Well, it's all your tights that look uncomfortable
27:44
Speaker 1: at this stage of pregnancy.
27:45
Speaker 2: My tights are actually fine.
27:46
Speaker 1: I just couldn't stand it. I'd need some sort of–
27:48
Speaker 1: I'd need maternity jeans and a maternity pair of tracksuit
27:52
Speaker 1: pants or pajamas.
27:54
Speaker 3: Mark my words, you do not want to be wearing
27:56
Speaker 3: jeans when you're 35 weeks pregnant.
27:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you're going out to a restaurant or something,
28:00
Speaker 1: you feel like you just suck it up and just
28:03
Speaker 1: put the big uncomfortable potato jeans on.
28:05
Speaker 2: Again, once you're pregnant, we'll see how you feel about it.
28:08
Speaker 1: My low of the week is also sleep related, but
28:11
Speaker 1: it's that I'm such a night owl and I just
28:13
Speaker 1: can't switch off at nighttime. Like I hop into bed.
28:16
Speaker 1: And I'm just on my phone scrolling. Well, that's the
28:19
Speaker 1: worst thing. It's the worst. I should put my phone down.
28:21
Speaker 1: And then it just makes me not feel motivated in
28:24
Speaker 1: the morning. And it's so cold at the moment. I
28:26
Speaker 1: would like to be in a better routine. I think
28:28
Speaker 1: you need to put your phone away maybe an hour
28:31
Speaker 1: before you go to bed. I need to lock it away.
28:33
Speaker 1: Some people have like a cabinet that they actually physically lock.
28:36
Speaker 3: See, the other day we were talking about eating in
28:39
Speaker 3: the shower and my mother-in-law listened to the episode and
28:41
Speaker 3: she goes to me, how do you actually go on
28:44
Speaker 3: your phone in the shower? And I'm like, fuck, I
28:46
Speaker 3: forget people I know listen to it. And I'm like, oh,
28:48
Speaker 3: I don't stand under the water.
28:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very easy.
28:51
Speaker 1: Well, my high of the week, it's a bit of
28:54
Speaker 1: a mundane one, but basically touching on in-laws. My in-laws
28:59
Speaker 1: have been renovating our house at the moment with my partner.
29:03
Speaker 1: I need to hire them out. Like you guys are
29:04
Speaker 1: wanting me to hire them out. They're doing the most
29:05
Speaker 1: incredible job. They built a little shelf the other day. Well,
29:10
Speaker 1: they put shelving in. Yeah, they put shelving in. And
29:13
Speaker 1: I'm so excited because I got my wedding photos back
29:15
Speaker 1: this week. And my high of the week is that
29:18
Speaker 1: I'm going to get them printed and feel like I'm
29:20
Speaker 1: in a real adult house.
29:22
Speaker 2: Because I've been in- Put them on the shelf?
29:23
Speaker 4: Well, yeah.
29:24
Speaker 1: So I'm going to put them on the shelf. And
29:26
Speaker 1: I just feel like I've been in rentals for so
29:28
Speaker 1: many years that don't have that personal touch. And now
29:30
Speaker 1: that I've lucky enough to have bought my own home,
29:32
Speaker 1: I'm just excited to actually put those personal bits in there. Yeah.
29:36
Speaker 1: That is really exciting. My high of the week would
29:39
Speaker 1: be discovering the the Osbournes podcast. It's so good. I mean,
29:43
Speaker 1: if you're easily offended, maybe don't listen to it, but
29:45
Speaker 1: far out. It just took me back to watching their
29:48
Speaker 1: show back in 2001. And it's made me want to
29:51
Speaker 1: go and seek it out on YouTube. Apparently they are
29:54
Speaker 1: recording at the moment sort of like a Gogglebox style
29:57
Speaker 1: show where they do watch it back. And if you
29:59
Speaker 1: subscribe to, I.
30:00
Speaker 2: Think it's called Osborne Media House, then you're able to
30:03
Speaker 2: see the episodes.
30:04
Speaker 1: But, oh, my God, they are hilarious together. Well, it's
30:07
Speaker 1: sort of a– it's touted as a comedy podcast. Yeah.
30:10
Speaker 1: Jack Osborne has really grown up and he and Kelly,
30:14
Speaker 1: so they're brother and sister, they– like even though they've
30:17
Speaker 1: grown up, I love the fact that their sense of
30:20
Speaker 1: humour hasn't changed.
30:20
Speaker 2: Well, I just love it.
30:21
Speaker 1: Petty they are like remember there was an iconic episode
30:24
Speaker 1: where they had this argument with the neighbors and they
30:26
Speaker 1: threw ham over the fence I thought you were gonna
30:28
Speaker 1: say when they were debating whether it was he said
30:30
Speaker 1: stick or dick no no because they had Sharon on
30:34
Speaker 1: and she was telling a story about how they had
30:36
Speaker 1: well she had this disagreement with this movie company who
30:39
Speaker 1: were coming to film in the street and they just
30:42
Speaker 1: sounded exactly the same as they were in 2001 just
30:45
Speaker 1: having these like petty issues with everybody my low would be.
30:49
Speaker 2: Just how cold and dark it's now getting.
30:52
Speaker 1: And I love to go for a walk after work,
30:55
Speaker 1: but it seems to be getting so dark so quickly.
30:57
Speaker 1: And it's really pissing me off because women can't feel
31:00
Speaker 1: safe to walk around in the dark. And I've been
31:02
Speaker 1: having this discussion with my partner and I'm just saying like,
31:05
Speaker 1: you know, for instance, he can go and jog around
31:08
Speaker 1: the block when it's pitch black. But for me, I
31:11
Speaker 1: would feel so unsafe and actually- Well, you would be unsafe. Yeah,
31:14
Speaker 1: I would. And a friend of ours, Sarah, she put
31:16
Speaker 1: it so well. She said she was trying to explain
31:18
Speaker 1: to her partner how you feel as a woman walking
31:20
Speaker 1: in the dark. And she said, it's like you've taken
31:23
Speaker 1: out all of your, all the money in the bank
31:25
Speaker 1: that you own and you're literally out in public walking
31:28
Speaker 1: around with it. Yeah.
31:30
Speaker 3: I don't think men will ever fully comprehend what it
31:33
Speaker 3: is like Now, that is where we're going to leave
31:35
Speaker 3: things today.
31:36
Speaker 2: If you do want to hear more content from us,
31:38
Speaker 2: we did drop.
31:39
Speaker 3: A subscriber episode yesterday with extra influencer topics.
31:44
Speaker 2: This podcast was recorded.
31:45
Speaker 3: On the traditional land of the Kaurna people of the
31:47
Speaker 3: Adelaide Plains.
31:48
Speaker 2: We pay respect to elders past and present.