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How to make PASSIVE INCOME from AirBnB WITHOUT owning Real Estate (Full Podcast) · Reborn w/ Antonio Boutros

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SPEAKER_00: Hey, my name is Tony Bouters, and this is the Reborn Podcast.
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SPEAKER_00: Thanks so much for listening.
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SPEAKER_00: Alright, this is Tony Buchos, host of the Reborn Podcast, and I'm joined by Tech Chang.
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SPEAKER_00: Tech is a great real estate investor, and I think he's gonna have a great short story to share today.
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SPEAKER_00: What's up, Tony?
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SPEAKER_00: How are you doing, man?
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SPEAKER_00: Good, man.
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SPEAKER_00: Thanks for being here.
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SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
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SPEAKER_00: Thanks for having me.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: So, you know, we have had a few conversations ourselves, and you've told me some interesting things that you take over, essentially, um, properties and you put them on the Airbnb and you pay the rent month to month or six-month or lease, whatever it is, and then you Airbnb them and you know these special places that people want to vacation to.
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SPEAKER_00: Can you go a little bit into that?
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SPEAKER_00: What people should know that are maybe looking to get into um rental arbitrage and what you do exactly.
1:23
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely.
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SPEAKER_02: So rental arbitrage, first off, is not new.
1:27
SPEAKER_02: Um, just to give background, um those that are maybe watching on the road and stuff, um arbitrage to me really means it's like a spread or difference between two things.
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SPEAKER_02: So rental arbitrage is basically taking, you know, let's say a property that a long-term landlord has, so just a regular rental, you rent it out for a year, you sign the lease, and then you sublease it.
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SPEAKER_02: Obviously, you should be transparent, let them know what you're doing so they're on they understand and it's allowed.
1:54
SPEAKER_02: So then you sublease it, you furnish it, and then you make it an Airbnb, or what we call now corporate housing, or slash midterm stays that's geared towards people that are relocating, possibly people that are displaced by insurance claims.
2:09
SPEAKER_02: They have like you know, water damage in their house.
2:10
SPEAKER_02: That's what we call kind of the midterm uh stay, which basically is anything over a month to maybe 12 months.
2:18
SPEAKER_02: It's that in-between gap.
2:19
SPEAKER_02: So it's anyone that knows some of the stuff is long term is basically one year, which we start out with with your leasing.
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SPEAKER_02: Short term is basically anything under a month.
2:29
SPEAKER_02: Uh technique, something we call it Airbnb, and the middle ground is the midterm stay, or it's called clipper housing as well.
2:37
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so um, yeah.
2:39
SPEAKER_00: Now, one of the things I'm thinking is I know you said transparency.
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SPEAKER_00: Obviously, you want to be transparent with the the landlord, and I know you own your own long-term rentals as well.
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SPEAKER_00: Do you have any, I guess, pros and cons, you would call it, between owning a land and owning a long-term rental and just rental arbitrage?
2:57
SPEAKER_00: Because I'm sure you run into some landlords that are like, you make money off my property.
3:02
SPEAKER_00: Like, no, that like just that ego, you know, like, or also just not wanting to deal with people coming in and out every day.
3:11
SPEAKER_00: You have any issues with that?
3:12
SPEAKER_00: What do what are the pros and cons of each side of things?
3:15
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, that's a great question.
3:18
SPEAKER_02: Great question.
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SPEAKER_02: So, for a landlord that's basically doing long-term rental, right?
3:22
SPEAKER_02: They care about two things.
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SPEAKER_02: They care majority of the time.
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SPEAKER_02: I wouldn't say I'll look different, but the majority of people that I talk to, they care about how do how do I get paid?
3:31
SPEAKER_02: Basically, he's like, I want to get paid, make sure that you don't default and not pay me and have to kick you out and all that stuff, right?
3:37
SPEAKER_02: And then they they care about making sure the properties doesn't get trashed.
3:40
SPEAKER_02: Those are the two major concerns, right?
3:43
SPEAKER_02: So, what I do is my company comes in and take care of that.
3:46
SPEAKER_02: And you think about it, like, just to give you an idea, my pitch to these landlords, and I like talking to landlords personally, not to like businesses and like you know, hotel spaces, I do more homes than I do like say apartment complexes.
3:58
SPEAKER_02: So when I talk to like a mom and pop, we call mom and pop landlords, like someone like yourself, myself, and just own some properties, not an investor, even if I'm an investor sometimes.
4:07
SPEAKER_02: But really, the key is I tell them, like, look, number one, you're renting out to me, you're renting to a company, so I'm gonna pay you.
4:15
SPEAKER_02: And if I don't pay you, you can kick me out, right?
4:18
SPEAKER_02: So number two on that is you kick me out a lot easier, especially in a state where I live.
4:22
SPEAKER_02: I'm in Maryland, which is very, very tenant-friendly.
4:25
SPEAKER_02: So if you're in California, you have, you know, same thing.
4:28
SPEAKER_02: You kick out the kick out this company, myself, really, my my company, not a tenant.
4:34
SPEAKER_02: So it doesn't, it doesn't favor me, it actually favors the landlord.
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SPEAKER_02: So it's a lot easier process, number one.
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SPEAKER_02: Number two, but that's if I don't pay, right?
4:41
SPEAKER_02: So I pay.
4:43
SPEAKER_02: Number three, if I go into um, you know, I basically have to take care of the property best as possible.
4:49
SPEAKER_02: If I don't, then they basically can kick me out.
4:53
SPEAKER_02: And if I don't take care of the property, it's gonna look bad for my business.
4:56
SPEAKER_02: Now, the picture is all like if you're seeing the Airbnb's like the ones behind me, if it doesn't look like bad or it's dirty or something like that, I'm gonna get a bad release and hurt my business.
5:04
SPEAKER_02: So I'm not here to lose business.
5:06
SPEAKER_02: I'm here to you know, obviously generate income and pay my employees and stuff like that.
5:11
SPEAKER_02: So I have to take care of the property and it favors you're going that way.
5:20
SPEAKER_02: So I think we lost Tony, but uh just to give you every everybody an idea, that's basically what I do and I go in to talk to landlords.
5:27
SPEAKER_02: It's a very easy process.
5:47
SPEAKER_02: I'm kinda having some technical issues today, just because it's it's tech day, you know, like we had some issues before this, and for those that now keep a little longer, and then now Tony somehow is he said your laptop restarted is next to me, and so I'm sorry.
6:01
SPEAKER_02: I'm rubbing off on them.
6:02
SPEAKER_02: I've had issues today.
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SPEAKER_00: My my laptop just restarted.
6:06
SPEAKER_00: I don't know what's going on, man.
6:07
SPEAKER_00: It's crazy, crazy.
6:09
SPEAKER_00: But didn't you crazy days?
6:11
SPEAKER_00: Did you keep it going?
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SPEAKER_02: I kept it going, man.
6:13
SPEAKER_00: Oh, you kept it going, nice.
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SPEAKER_00: We're carrying the show already, man.
6:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, try trying to help out.
6:18
SPEAKER_00: I don't I don't know.
6:18
SPEAKER_00: My my computer said uh some random issue.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know, I don't know, something.
6:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, um, yeah.
6:29
SPEAKER_00: You usually I try and carry from the last question, but given that I my computer decided I guess it has other plans.
6:37
SPEAKER_00: Um, we'll go into the next question then, I guess.
6:42
SPEAKER_00: Um well I don't I again I don't even know what you or what you just said.
6:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'll answer the question that I have on here.
6:49
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, uh basically it's you asked me like um, you know, why would a landlord go with me versus maybe just renting me out long term to just another tenant?
6:58
SPEAKER_02: Most times these landlords honestly, like they they've had bad tenants.
7:03
SPEAKER_02: Like people doesn't matter.
7:04
SPEAKER_02: Like, I'm a long-term uh uh landlord myself, and these tenants don't care care about their place.
7:11
SPEAKER_02: I have to care about the property because if I don't keep it clean, tidy, neat, and looking good, it actually affects my business.
7:19
SPEAKER_02: So that's that's what the major point in all this.
7:21
SPEAKER_02: It's like the apex or whatever you want to call it.
7:24
SPEAKER_02: It's it's that little niche that I say, like if I don't take care of it, I basically am out of business.
7:31
SPEAKER_02: So why would I'm in business to make money?
7:33
SPEAKER_02: So my my property, which is more your property in essence, right, has to look good.
7:38
SPEAKER_02: If it's messed up, it's damaged, then I want to take care of some of that stuff, right?
7:42
SPEAKER_02: Like I I've had copies of this property like behind me in the screen.
7:45
SPEAKER_02: It's a property, you know why uh the landlords actually live next door.
7:49
SPEAKER_02: They didn't have the time and energy to deal with it.
7:51
SPEAKER_02: They wanted premium rent, actually, which the numbers worked down like after doing my research and stuff, and I said, Okay, you know, normal rent there is like 6,000.
7:59
SPEAKER_02: They asked for a little bit more.
8:00
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, I I think the numbers still work out.
8:02
SPEAKER_02: Happy to do it and negotiate all that stuff, and you know, we worked it out.
8:07
SPEAKER_02: And basically, on this one, we had a problem one time where uh we had a little fix for a uh shower and them costing$700.
8:15
SPEAKER_02: And I told them, like, look, I'll take care of it, it's not a big deal.
8:18
SPEAKER_02: Like it is a big deal in essence, but uh they've been really nice to me and working with me throughout the process.
8:23
SPEAKER_02: Um, it's new for them, and I was just trying to help them out.
8:26
SPEAKER_02: Uh obviously it helps me out because it makes me money, but um, I take care of the place.
8:30
SPEAKER_02: Like$790 fix.
8:32
SPEAKER_02: I actually called the plumber and they had to get a part, took a little longer than normal, but and the place got fixed up and it was ready to go because I don't have time for like a landlord if you're if you own the property to go ahead and find uh or find, you know, call somebody up, bring somebody out, it could take two, three days.
8:48
SPEAKER_02: Like I have a guest coming in, I'll I'll pay it, and then we want to split it.
8:53
SPEAKER_02: I end up saying, Don't worry about it, I'll take care of it.
8:55
SPEAKER_02: It's not a big deal.
8:56
SPEAKER_02: It's it's hopefully it's gonna happen again.
8:58
SPEAKER_02: But if it does, obviously, you know, I'll maybe I'll I'll get them to uh split the cost or something like that.
9:04
SPEAKER_02: But for now, I'm well it hasn't happened again.
9:06
SPEAKER_02: I was like, it's fine.
9:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
9:10
SPEAKER_00: Now I'm curious, how long do you typically stay in your spots?
9:15
SPEAKER_00: How long would you rent out a place for?
9:16
SPEAKER_00: Is it really as long as it keeps cash flowing, or do you have like a monthly, six-month lease?
9:21
SPEAKER_02: No, usually you sign like a long-term lease, right?
9:23
SPEAKER_02: So you're basically a long-term renter for these landlords, and then you end up signing the the 12-month leases.
9:30
SPEAKER_02: And you can sign up, like I signed my first one for 15 months.
9:33
SPEAKER_02: That's the reason why, as an investor, is I do the lot I like to get longer leases if I know it's a good area.
9:39
SPEAKER_02: Um, then you end up saving on rents because rents keep going up every year.
9:43
SPEAKER_02: So after 12, 12 months, they're gonna be like, oh, it's not really new.
9:46
SPEAKER_02: We're gonna raise the rents because inflation and all this BS stuff with interest rates.
9:51
SPEAKER_02: And so they're gonna raise the rents no matter what.
9:53
SPEAKER_02: So if you can go for a longer-term lease, a two-year lease, because like I in order for me to do this property here, it's gonna it cost me$30,000 to furnish it.
10:01
SPEAKER_02: So if I do a one-year lease and I stay there, I'll recoup that back, obviously.
10:05
SPEAKER_02: But like for me to make more money, the longer I stay and keep continuing to rent it out, the more income I'm gonna create myself down the road.
10:13
SPEAKER_02: I need to pay back this stuff that's behind me, like all these furniture and decorations and design work and stuff.
10:19
SPEAKER_02: Um, so sometimes you gotta make sure you calculate that in because some people are like, well, I spent$10,000 to furnish this property.
10:26
SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, I make the$10,000 back in like 10 months, and then the last two months I maybe make a couple hundred dollars, but that's not really enough.
10:34
SPEAKER_02: So you gotta make sure you calculate.
10:36
SPEAKER_02: And the other thing with this, um, I'm thinking about it, rental arbitrage is is to me a better play.
10:43
SPEAKER_02: Because let's say some people, um in terms of risk, some people will go buy a property, like, I'm gonna go buy something in Orlando, I'm gonna make it an Airbnb because you know, Disney World, all this stuff, and then you find out, like, you know, Orlando is so saturated, and it's like your property is not one of the top 10 properties getting booked for some reason or another, and then like, well, I thought I was gonna make a hundred thousand dollars like in a year, and we end up making only 60, and it barely pays, or maybe it just splits even with your mortgage, and you're like, it's an investment, but yet you didn't make any money, so it's actually not an investment, you know.
11:18
SPEAKER_02: So you gotta be careful about that.
11:20
SPEAKER_02: If your goal is to make money or cash flow, so for me, it's it was more of a cash flow play.
11:25
SPEAKER_02: Um, so that's why I did change retro arbitrage because it's best to go into a market you don't know.
11:31
SPEAKER_02: Let's say like I went if I am going to Orlando, uh, I don't know that area that well, I don't know if it's good or bad.
11:37
SPEAKER_02: Let me just test the market out by doing retro arbitrage.
11:40
SPEAKER_02: If it doesn't work in 12 months, then I can just get out the lease and then go somewhere else or another neighborhood or closer to Disney or whatever.
11:47
SPEAKER_02: I decided to rework, just take stuff and just move out to like Miami or something like that.
11:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
11:52
SPEAKER_00: You you say that it's best to go into a market you don't know?
11:55
SPEAKER_02: No, I'm saying it allows you to go into a market that you don't know.
11:58
SPEAKER_02: I apologize.
11:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
11:59
SPEAKER_02: I don't know like an area.
12:01
SPEAKER_02: Um, like say I know I don't know if I don't know Philly.
12:04
SPEAKER_02: That's near me, but I don't know if Philly means it's it can Airbnb in Philly.
12:08
SPEAKER_02: How do I know if it's gonna do well?
12:09
SPEAKER_02: I have data, there's sites that show these comps, um, but not for first off, not for midterm, but let's just for short term.
12:17
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like and even then, like the the route is changing all the time, but like for what you can see right now in the last few months and year, you have data from the back, you don't have data going forward.
12:27
SPEAKER_02: So it's still it's still uncertain, right?
12:29
SPEAKER_02: Like, like same thing.
12:30
SPEAKER_02: Like, let's say, for example, we're on this topic, like COVID happened, and and we couldn't fly.
12:37
SPEAKER_02: You couldn't travel.
12:38
SPEAKER_02: Like, what if I had one in Hawaii like I have now, and people couldn't fly to Hawaii?
12:43
SPEAKER_02: Well, what happens now?
12:45
SPEAKER_02: You couldn't get on a plane, you couldn't travel, you couldn't do all these things, everything's grounded, and and then you know what happens?
12:52
SPEAKER_02: You your business is like gone for the most part, unless they can drive, no one's driving to Hawaii, let's be honest.
12:57
SPEAKER_02: Right.
12:57
SPEAKER_02: Can't do that.
12:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right.
13:00
SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
13:03
SPEAKER_00: Now you said it's a better play than LTR, long-term rental.
13:07
SPEAKER_00: Is it the first thing you got into, or did you first buy your own few houses?
13:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I have some long-term rentals.
13:14
SPEAKER_02: I my journey started back in 05-06.
13:18
SPEAKER_02: Um, bought a couple condos near me here in Maryland.
13:21
SPEAKER_02: And basically, as I, you know, the market sank in 06-08, pretty much through that time.
13:27
SPEAKER_02: Uh, did not know about anything when I bought those.
13:30
SPEAKER_02: I just was making good money as a young guy, single.
13:33
SPEAKER_02: And my mom's like, real estate's high, go buy it.
13:35
SPEAKER_02: You need the depreciation, all this stuff.
13:37
SPEAKER_02: And then the market went straight down.
13:39
SPEAKER_02: Um, I still own some of those.
13:41
SPEAKER_02: And then I was as I kept going, you know, I just used real estate to make a little bit of money and got back into it really uh around Cleveland.
13:48
SPEAKER_02: So I'll think thanks more of you.
13:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, PACE is a great way to try.
13:53
SPEAKER_00: I was actually gonna ask about that.
13:54
SPEAKER_00: I've seen you post a few times about Robert Kiyosaki, and I believe you've gone to um 10x as well, correct?
14:03
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
14:04
SPEAKER_00: Who is the most influential mentor you have had in business, you would say?
14:10
SPEAKER_02: In business, and actually in real estate, which is mostly my business right now, it's gotta be face Marby, like hands down, if it's not even a close.
14:18
SPEAKER_02: Uh, I've done I said this to a lot of people and I talked to new students and people that are in sub two, which is the hot right now wearing.
14:26
SPEAKER_02: Um the the program sub two, I paid like over 100K in other mentorships before, starting back in 2017 to 2020.
14:36
SPEAKER_02: And then I got lucky, I guess I uh found Facebook beyond uh UT around COVID time when everyone was locked down.
14:46
SPEAKER_02: Happened to watch a lot of his content when he opened up the membership.
14:48
SPEAKER_02: I was like, let me join, let me get in because he's he's a different person.
14:53
SPEAKER_02: And the program's unique, uh while I'm talking about it, like I say it all the time to people that I don't know sub to and we join because obviously pace is very influential, but we think you're getting just real estate and creative financing.
15:09
SPEAKER_02: I can buy real estate 20% down, also and teach us creative real estate, which is like subject to taking out somebody's mortgage, seller financing, how to talk to sellers, it teaches you how to start businesses like wholesale operations.
15:22
SPEAKER_02: Um, and you partner up and really the the value is the community, but on top of that, like we're doing stuff in the community right now that you can subject to taking over people's car payments, taking a car, starting turtle businesses, starting even now, just recently at the time of this recording, we are working on buying businesses zeroed down, basically.
15:44
SPEAKER_02: Um helping sellers that are maybe retiring and taking over their businesses, optimize it, and then sometimes even paying them a little annuity, in essence, or some money while they're in retirement.
15:56
SPEAKER_02: So take a help, it's a win-win proposition in essence.
15:59
SPEAKER_02: So you know, it's not just real estate, let's put it that way.
16:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
16:03
SPEAKER_00: So you've paid 100k for member for non-memberships, mentorships.
16:08
SPEAKER_00: So, needless to say, now you don't have an issue paying for education because you know it's going to come back to you tenfold, a hundredfold, a thousandfold.
16:17
SPEAKER_00: What are the main selling points you would say Pace Morby's community has that these other top-tier communities you've been in just don't?
16:27
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's the people, and it starts actually with pace.
16:31
SPEAKER_02: Um, pace's nature is give first and need with value.
16:35
SPEAKER_02: And I totally believe that that resonates with me easily because that's who I am.
16:38
SPEAKER_02: I I want to always try to find a way to help.
16:41
SPEAKER_02: I feel like that's one of the that's just natural.
16:51
SPEAKER_02: I like connecting people like you're telling to like somebody else that might need something.
16:55
SPEAKER_02: It just depends on what the needs are.
16:58
SPEAKER_02: I'm that I'm that middle ground person, right?
17:00
SPEAKER_02: Somebody's like, oh, I need some private money or a deal.
17:03
SPEAKER_02: I can just send you to this person.
17:04
SPEAKER_02: Just recently, someone asked me, like, hey, I know we're you know, connecting you've been a long time, and I I have a self-storage deal, but I don't know how to underwrite it.
17:12
SPEAKER_02: I don't know anything about self-story except it's you know the building with steel doors.
17:17
SPEAKER_02: Okay, fantastic.
17:18
SPEAKER_02: Go to this person, this person, this person.
17:19
SPEAKER_02: I send them three names and hopefully they linked up and we take care of it.
17:24
SPEAKER_02: And that's that's really the value that I try to bring to people.
17:28
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, overall, like the community is self-structured pace.
17:32
SPEAKER_02: It starts with giving nature and leaving value, and then everything comes back, and a lot of my partnerships that I get from properties and other deals come from people coming to me, and when we end up forming a what we're called JV, trolley venture.
17:47
SPEAKER_02: I get deals that way.
17:48
SPEAKER_02: I don't actually go out buying deals anymore, I don't have to.
17:51
SPEAKER_02: They are deals come to me just through helping other people.
17:55
SPEAKER_00: So basically it's that just that good grazed karma, you can you can call it um going in and going out, you know, just reciprocating itself.
18:05
unknown: Yeah.
18:05
SPEAKER_00: You know, you said it go ahead.
18:07
SPEAKER_02: Well, I was gonna say, like people are like that, and it starts from the top.
18:11
SPEAKER_02: Like when you have a leader pace who is very compelling and strong, and it's he sets the tone.
18:19
unknown: Yeah.
18:19
SPEAKER_02: So you built a community along those lines, yeah, and he didn't say it, but he's like, you know, you should leave with value, and that's trying to help you out.
18:26
SPEAKER_02: And that's for me, it's natural.
18:27
SPEAKER_02: I'm not saying everybody's the same way because everyone needs to make money, and we get it, but when we're when your leader in essence is doing that over and over consistently every day.
18:37
SPEAKER_02: Like he pays for like lists of skip trace lists, uh, even back in the beginning where we started.
18:43
SPEAKER_02: Here's like a$50,000 or$50,000 uh name list,$50,000 uh skip trace list, basically.
18:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's a$50,000 skip trace list that he already paid for and daddy's team to scrap the list, pull the list, pay for the uh skip tracing, gave us the list, and said go ahead and call it.
19:03
SPEAKER_02: I mean, does he have to do that?
19:04
SPEAKER_02: He spent like$10,000,$15,000 for that.
19:06
SPEAKER_02: Does he have to do that?
19:08
SPEAKER_02: No.
19:08
SPEAKER_02: And do you have to do you, you know, when you get to call it, you don't have to spend any of your money, you're doing all the hard work.
19:14
SPEAKER_02: Now somebody's like, oh, well, he's gonna get he's gonna get what you deals.
19:17
SPEAKER_02: You should get one at two deals.
19:19
SPEAKER_02: Like, you don't have to, you don't have to go work with pace, but it's gonna be cool if you did because he helps you back out.
19:25
SPEAKER_02: Like it's again the karma.
19:27
SPEAKER_02: Like he didn't he didn't ask you to bring the deal back to him, and it might not even be a deal that he wants to buy.
19:33
SPEAKER_02: So but it's just like again, he's giving you something leading with value.
19:38
SPEAKER_02: That's how I like to live my life now.
19:41
SPEAKER_00: Pace Morby, I think I he's uh I've been in his community now for a few months, and he's I definitely agree, he's provided so much value.
19:49
SPEAKER_00: It just how would you say to avoid shiny object syndrome?
19:55
SPEAKER_00: Because you know, buying businesses, buying cars, buying rental arbitrage, buying long-term rentals, buying what medium-term rentals, buying short-term rentals, buying flips, and so on and so forth.
20:06
SPEAKER_00: How can you should you niche down or should you expand and maybe build a team for each individual thing?
20:12
SPEAKER_00: Or how can you best use your time?
20:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so the acronym focus, I actually saw this somewhere I was talking to somebody earlier today.
20:21
SPEAKER_02: The acronym for focus FOCS, I believe, was focus on completion until successful, or something like that, right?
20:31
SPEAKER_02: Like something along that line, something completion until successful.
20:35
SPEAKER_02: I was like, that's a great goal because we should really focus on one niche.
20:38
SPEAKER_02: If you get really good at one thing, it doesn't matter what it is, you could be a sales, you could be a what the we call a closer, you could be acquisitions, be the person on the phone, right?
20:48
SPEAKER_02: Be the one doing the you guys, you can actually be the guy in the background doing all the systems, like setting up all the lists and whatever else.
20:55
SPEAKER_02: That's not who I am.
20:56
SPEAKER_02: But um the most important thing.
20:57
SPEAKER_02: Or be a connector.
20:58
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you can be a connector, and it basically comes down to your personality and your strengths, right?
21:02
SPEAKER_02: Everyone has different strengths.
21:04
SPEAKER_02: Some people don't want to be on the front of the screen talking, but some people in the background, like I don't mind, you know, looking at the computers, getting the spreadsheet set up and all that stuff, and they enjoy that.
21:15
SPEAKER_02: That's their personality, and we both.
21:19
SPEAKER_02: So having that partnership is the key.
21:21
SPEAKER_02: Like, well, I can't do everything, I don't know everything.
21:24
SPEAKER_02: Same thing for you, I'm sure.
21:26
SPEAKER_02: Like, but if I know that you have a strength here and I have a weakness, if we mesh together, we can really do something powerful together, right?
21:34
SPEAKER_02: But I don't have to go learn something brand new that I'm not used to.
21:37
SPEAKER_02: I don't know anything about coding, even though my name is Tech, I am horrendous, absolutely horrendous technology.
21:43
SPEAKER_02: Tony Gnosis.
21:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
21:45
SPEAKER_02: First name.
21:47
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
21:47
SPEAKER_00: We um I think even the people that were here at the beginning of the podcast know that as well.
21:54
SPEAKER_00: So um, you know, it's it's as you were saying, not.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: Even needing to make up for your own weakness because you are getting someone who has the weakness that is your strength, and that your strength is your weakness, and then you just pair together well.
22:12
SPEAKER_00: So, what you were saying, the guy in the background that can put all the systems together and do all that, to me and to you, I think it's tedious.
22:20
SPEAKER_00: It's like I want to go out there and like talk to people and like do shit.
22:25
SPEAKER_00: I don't want to be here, you know, behind behind the camera and or not behind the camera, behind like just unseen and making systems and making sure the day-to-day is going smoothly, but at the end of the day, it's such a crucial part of the business that needs to be done by someone.
22:45
SPEAKER_00: And the thing is, some people that's all they want to do, and some people they love it.
22:49
SPEAKER_00: So that's um I've I've I've been acquainted with a few myself, and they just have helped me tremendously.
22:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, again, it's a it's that partnership, it's the yin yang.
23:03
SPEAKER_02: You can't, and it's not even say a yin yang of two people, it could be like I I've seen successful teams that uh that are in the community that are three or four people, but you have to have what we call with this basic yin yang.
23:17
SPEAKER_02: There's basically what we call visionary and uh a uh innovator, and you know, there's like it's the innovators that back person, like they're basically doing all the background heavy duty work, right?
23:27
SPEAKER_02: And the visionary is like the one out there like putting their name out, right?
23:31
SPEAKER_02: You know, it's it's it if you think about it, it's kind of um I don't know, maybe analogies like we all know Donald Trump, right?
23:37
SPEAKER_02: He's very um out there, so like Donald Trump, and he has a team behind him doing all the hard work, like he's not doing, you know, he's he's not for his real estate.
23:46
SPEAKER_02: Like, did he actually put himself in there and like pour nails and like pour concrete?
23:52
SPEAKER_02: No, he has guys doing that work, and then even before that, between that construction worker and who he is operating and getting the money to get to get the stuff done, you know, what's his strength?
24:04
SPEAKER_02: He's really good with networking and knowing the people that have money and bringing those deals together and structuring those.
24:09
SPEAKER_02: He's smart.
24:10
SPEAKER_02: Um, but then he's got the team in between and knows how to find the construction team or knows what to do.
24:16
SPEAKER_02: He has that set in place.
24:17
SPEAKER_02: And whoever that person above that, maybe his vice president or his COO or whatever you want to call it, that person's doing the operations, right?
24:25
SPEAKER_02: Like I can be the CEO, the face of the company, and I can have somebody be the CEO who's basically the one that's running operations.
24:33
SPEAKER_02: And to me, that person's more important than anything else.
24:36
SPEAKER_02: Because if you don't operate, then you you fail.
24:40
SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of people like that.
24:41
SPEAKER_02: A lot of businesses like fail because of that.
24:44
SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I was gonna say, without getting too political, um, I think you could almost argue that Trump or anyone else that's in a position like he is, with that team behind him, he would be without that team behind him, he would be so much further behind than he is now running for president and you know, having a multi multi-billion dollar businesses.
25:06
SPEAKER_00: And what I know he is like a big private jet that everyone like a Boeing something growing 727, 707, something like that.
25:15
SPEAKER_00: It's it's crazy, but without his team, it's I don't know why you know we need help.
25:21
SPEAKER_02: I mean, you can't do it.
25:22
SPEAKER_02: I mean, even like the was who's the richest person right now, I think Elon Musk or something like that, or even Jeff Bezos, right?
25:28
SPEAKER_02: Like yeah, I mean, I mean, I don't know.
25:31
SPEAKER_02: Maybe the audience knows about yeah, I don't know if the audience knows about like um Steve Jobs, right?
25:36
SPEAKER_02: Like Apple.
25:37
SPEAKER_02: We all know Apple products.
25:39
SPEAKER_02: Um and you know, Steve Jobs was the face of it, but there's a guy named Steve Wozniak, right?
25:45
SPEAKER_02: That that people know more about now that did a lot of the background stuff, right?
25:50
SPEAKER_02: So it's like we you need both.
25:52
SPEAKER_02: I mean, we can't, and here's the thing, because if you're the one person show that is trying to do all that, you know, you're you're really gonna be one-sided.
26:02
SPEAKER_02: Like your personality and your strengths are to one or the other side.
26:06
SPEAKER_02: Like, there's actually a book called The Rocket Fuel.
26:08
SPEAKER_02: There's a test you can do and figure out who you are.
26:11
SPEAKER_02: It's actually like a 10-minute test, which is kind of cool, but like you go through the the questions and it kind of spits out like you're 65% this and 25% this, or you know, I think I think ended up being like 68, 69, almost both.
26:25
SPEAKER_02: But I'm like, wait a second, that's not right.
26:27
SPEAKER_02: Like, I feel like I'm more visionary, and then as you change also, I think as you develop, you kind of lean into one way or the other.
26:35
SPEAKER_02: And I have I have tendencies for both, obviously.
26:38
SPEAKER_00: Right.
26:39
SPEAKER_00: And being a one-man show, I think you can be a one-man show, but you have to be very, very, very, very ni's down.
26:47
SPEAKER_00: And even at that point, I mean, unless you're literally like one of or the only person that can do what you do, you're not gonna go very far.
26:55
SPEAKER_00: You need to scale.
26:56
SPEAKER_00: And in order to scale, you have to have a team.
26:58
SPEAKER_00: You're not gonna be a one-person show.
27:02
SPEAKER_02: You can only do so much by yourself, right?
27:04
SPEAKER_02: We we've heard that all like growing up.
27:07
SPEAKER_02: You can I can only I I can was the the saying now, I I hear a lot in the tree herds, like, if you want to go fast, go alone.
27:16
SPEAKER_02: You want to go far, you know, go with others.
27:19
SPEAKER_02: So I for me it's like I and plus for me, this is just me.
27:22
SPEAKER_02: I I don't think I can do it by myself.
27:26
SPEAKER_02: Like I need to have other people like it's more fun too, like when you have friends and partners that you enjoy working with to do it, like if I did it by myself, yeah, I do all this work and everybody's an employee.
27:39
SPEAKER_02: I'd rather go out and hang out with friends.
27:41
SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't I think it's just general human nature.
27:43
SPEAKER_02: We're social beings.
27:44
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so it's like if I you know if I get to like you know, two million hundred, two hundred thousand dollar or whatever,$700 million level, and I have yachts, like I want to be able to hang with people that can hang with me, like have yachts, see.
27:56
SPEAKER_02: I can go to my yacht, they go to your yacht, or they can bring up helicopter.
27:59
SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's just if you see other other people, and actually sorry, this is more tangent, but I happen to see a story, I'm not sure where it was, but it was like Mike, Magic Johnson.
28:11
SPEAKER_02: The reason why I'm talking about Magic Johnson is like it was reported, I think, in one of our news channels local here.
28:17
SPEAKER_02: He joined um the ownership team that bought the Washington Manager football team that's local to me.
28:23
SPEAKER_02: Um, and even that team, it's a conglomeration of like very rich people.
28:28
SPEAKER_02: But I've never seen Magic and his wife, I think, hanging out like on a resort or something like that.
28:34
SPEAKER_02: Like even before they they signed a deal here to close the um purchase of the football team.
28:40
SPEAKER_02: We was hanging out like um, I'm not sure he was with, but he's other celebrities, you know, other rich famous people.
28:48
SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, have fun with it, right?
28:50
SPEAKER_02: Hang with your friends and one wins.
28:52
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't think you're I think that's a good point as well, is just your overall enjoyment of life.
28:58
SPEAKER_00: You might be even more successful, possibly doing it while being the top dog and doing being the only top dog, but you know, you're not gonna enjoy your life as much.
29:13
SPEAKER_00: And I think for most people, now some people are only business oriented and good for them, you know.
29:20
SPEAKER_00: But if you want to enjoy your life, you want to have a family, you want to have health, you want to have business and everything, then you need to not be alone, essentially.
29:33
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, absolutely right.
29:34
SPEAKER_02: I think you're also a little egotistic, like you should share with the world.
29:37
SPEAKER_02: Because I mean, let's say you're alone, and even let's say Elon Musk, if you're alone, you make 200 billion dollars or whatever he's worth now, right?
29:46
SPEAKER_02: Like, he's dead and need all that money.
29:48
SPEAKER_02: Like, what's he gonna spend it on?
29:51
SPEAKER_02: Unless he's like trying to you know, restarv and new like human race on Mars or Moon, something like that.
29:57
SPEAKER_02: Like we well, they they are going that way though.
29:59
SPEAKER_02: They are going that way.
30:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so maybe it.
30:01
SPEAKER_02: I I don't know, but I mean, I'm on this earth, so I don't need that much money, and he never did.
30:06
SPEAKER_02: It's like, wow, like what am I gonna do with it at this point?
30:10
SPEAKER_00: I mean, they have so much money that literally you can't spend that for however many generations, like so many generations into the future, you'd still have such an excess amount of money that's it's like impossible to spend, literally.
30:23
SPEAKER_00: Like everyone in the family could have five yachts and five jets.
30:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like it's it's crazy.
30:29
SPEAKER_02: But his his great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great grandchildren in 5000 BC would still be billionaires at that point.
30:38
SPEAKER_02: You know, it's like that's insane to say, but yeah.
30:41
SPEAKER_00: It's funny you brought up the quote if you want to go fast, go alone.
30:45
SPEAKER_00: If you want to go far, go with others, because I think that's been brought up in the past like three episodes as well.
30:51
SPEAKER_00: And to me, I always say like, I don't understand, I don't understand the quote because how are you gonna go fast faster alone than if you have a team and you can go together, you're gonna be able to take care of different things at once.
31:09
SPEAKER_00: Rather, to me, I don't you're gonna go for me, you're gonna go further and you're gonna go faster together.
31:15
SPEAKER_00: I don't understand how you're gonna go fast alone, but maybe I'm missing something.
31:21
SPEAKER_02: Think think about like okay, if it's just you by yourself and you have like, you know, those ruck packs or whatever, you know, I'm talking about those backpacks that have a lot of weight or something like that through those blockchain trainings.
31:34
SPEAKER_02: You're carrying that, you can go fast by yourself.
31:37
SPEAKER_02: No one's holding you back, right?
31:39
SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't have to worry about say a parent, like, oh, if there's no kids behind me, I don't have a family, I can just go anyhow I want.
31:45
SPEAKER_02: I can go as fast as far as I want, obviously.
31:48
SPEAKER_02: Right?
31:48
SPEAKER_02: But if I want to go far, further, because really, if you think and this is a small tangent, but as I think about this, is the if you look at the greatest successful people in the world in any field, because I know we're talking about different things, what what's first off, what's your favorite sport?
32:07
SPEAKER_00: Basketball or football.
32:09
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
32:10
SPEAKER_00: Either either one.
32:11
SPEAKER_00: Let's say basketball.
32:12
SPEAKER_02: I'll say basketball.
32:13
SPEAKER_02: Who is the greatest basketball player in your mind?
32:16
SPEAKER_02: Everyone has different opinions, don't get me wrong.
32:18
SPEAKER_00: I gotta say LeBron.
32:19
SPEAKER_00: I grew up in that era, right?
32:21
SPEAKER_02: So I would say Michael Jordan, okay?
32:23
SPEAKER_02: But let's skip that for a second, because we had different opinions, and everyone's welcome to have that.
32:29
SPEAKER_02: But I think we could all we could all agree the best player in football is probably Tom Grady.
32:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
32:36
SPEAKER_02: Okay.
32:36
SPEAKER_02: Why do we think he's the best player?
32:39
SPEAKER_00: Because he's won the most, and I I I think I see where you're getting at.
32:44
SPEAKER_00: He has the best team and the best coach around him as well.
32:47
SPEAKER_02: But he also has the longest consistent reign, right?
32:51
SPEAKER_02: Right?
32:51
SPEAKER_02: He's got the most championships, but he's also one of the longest reigning quarterbacks, longest running quarterbacks in terms of his career.
32:58
SPEAKER_02: So consistency is key to success, in my mind.
33:02
SPEAKER_02: Like you can be really good, but it's it's a short time span.
33:07
SPEAKER_02: But the best players are the ones that are obviously winning and at the top of their field for the longest period of time.
33:12
SPEAKER_02: That's why we're like, that's the greatest player, right?
33:15
SPEAKER_02: Right?
33:16
SPEAKER_02: I don't think I think if you go out and pull out a hundred people anywhere, who's the greatest, you know, professional American football player?
33:24
SPEAKER_02: And you know, we all we all know that football is different overseas, but who's the greatest American professional football player in the NF in the NFL?
33:33
SPEAKER_02: I I would say nine and a half out of ten people will say Tom Brady.
33:36
SPEAKER_02: And it's not even close.
33:37
SPEAKER_02: Well, I'm not even a big Brady fan.
33:40
SPEAKER_02: I'm not a Brady fan, but I'll admit that he is the best.
33:42
SPEAKER_02: I was a big Manning fan.
33:44
SPEAKER_02: I like I like uh Peyton Manning, but I like Manning had to leave because he got hurt.
33:48
SPEAKER_02: And then look where look where and then look where you uh I think Peyton Manning when he retired had the most passing yards.
33:55
SPEAKER_02: Tom Brady now has that.
33:57
SPEAKER_02: He has all these records because his longevity.
34:00
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right?
34:01
SPEAKER_02: LeBron, same thing.
34:02
SPEAKER_02: I he can be considered the best, but then you know, there's different parallels as to what's the best you know player?
34:09
SPEAKER_02: Well, he didn't win as many championships, he lost more in finals.
34:12
SPEAKER_02: Oh it's a debate of sorts.
34:14
SPEAKER_02: It's the same thing like Tiger Woods in golf.
34:17
SPEAKER_02: He's considered the best player, but I know a lot of golf, and some people like as Nara saw it, Jack Nick, Jack Nicholas, who has more professional majors than Tiger.
34:27
SPEAKER_02: So which one is it?
34:28
SPEAKER_02: It's usually one or two.
34:30
SPEAKER_02: And that's the greatest thing about sports.
34:31
SPEAKER_02: You can debate who's the best player.
34:33
SPEAKER_02: Like some of them might say like Drew Brees or I don't know, whatever else is in the football.
34:38
SPEAKER_00: So there's there's also so many different ways that you can argue it because Jordan, you know, he never lost in the finals, and LeBron is, I believe, three, four, and five.
34:48
SPEAKER_00: Four and five, I think.
34:49
SPEAKER_02: Uh I know he's got four championships, I think.
34:51
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's like four and four, four and five, or maybe he's five and four.
34:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so he's lost.
34:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, he's got a great career.
34:56
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
34:57
SPEAKER_00: But then Jordan lost several times in the first round.
35:00
SPEAKER_00: I don't think LeBron's ever lost in the first round.
35:03
SPEAKER_00: And he's lost, he's lost early on, earlier on in the playoffs.
35:08
SPEAKER_00: And now you can also go, you can also take it from the standpoint that the Eastern Conference was tougher back then, the Western Conference is tougher now.
35:14
SPEAKER_00: And like just there's just so many different ways you can argue with that.
35:18
SPEAKER_00: Like you said, it's you know, there's multiple multiple goats, if you will.
35:23
SPEAKER_00: And they're they're all great in their own in their own right.
35:26
SPEAKER_02: Right, and and same thing.
35:27
SPEAKER_02: And we're talking sports, but like when you look at like different areas of business and stuff like that, like the best people that are in these businesses, they've lasted for a long time.
35:38
SPEAKER_02: I mean, right, for example, Coca-Cola, everyone knows Coca-Cola, right?
35:43
SPEAKER_02: It's been it's it's it's a little better than both you and I combine.
35:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
35:49
SPEAKER_02: I mean, these companies that have this legacy basically is what you're looking for.
35:52
SPEAKER_02: So the longevity is achieved, the consistency.
35:56
SPEAKER_02: So when you're doing that with a team, you can build that out further.
36:00
SPEAKER_02: Because I say, for example, if I'm and I started the company and I passed away, then maybe I've left the grandson.
36:07
SPEAKER_02: Oh, where was next in the line?
36:08
SPEAKER_02: It continues to build that legacy and grow it, grow it, and grow it.
36:11
SPEAKER_02: And down the road, you have this successful company.
36:15
SPEAKER_02: In the beginning, you're not gonna get successful.
36:17
SPEAKER_02: First generation sometimes may not.
36:19
SPEAKER_02: Like, look, for example, Henry Ford and the Ford Loader Company.
36:23
SPEAKER_02: You know, it started from a family couple.
36:25
SPEAKER_02: So there's lots of examples of why people are so successful.
36:29
SPEAKER_00: Is that how you envision your family?
36:31
SPEAKER_00: You building the foundation of your legacy, or maybe even your parents or grandparents building the foundation for then you to be better than your parents and your kids to be better than them, and and so on and so forth.
36:43
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I think so because I first off, I'm single.
36:46
SPEAKER_02: I have great nieces and nephews, I love them to death.
36:48
SPEAKER_02: It's probably one of my whys, to be honest, because I you want to build something for the next generation, but it's not even just them.
36:56
SPEAKER_02: I think it's for other people.
36:57
SPEAKER_02: Like my my passion is to get to a point where I I want to be able to give enough away.
37:02
SPEAKER_02: I can't take it with me.
37:04
SPEAKER_02: I know that.
37:05
SPEAKER_02: We're not gonna take it with us.
37:06
SPEAKER_02: You know, when you die, do you have nothing?
37:09
SPEAKER_02: Like it's like good luck.
37:10
SPEAKER_02: Like it's gonna have to tier legacy.
37:14
SPEAKER_02: That's the key thing.
37:15
SPEAKER_02: So for me, I I want to give back to just the general public, maybe through a charity, and then like you hear all these I get inspired by hearing like you know uh the Gates, the Warren Buffett's, and these other people that are like, I'm gonna give like I mean Mark Zuckerberg now, I think I heard is giving like 50% or certain certain amount of money from their endowments and their their funds or whatever they have.
37:41
SPEAKER_02: When they pass.
37:42
SPEAKER_02: Because do you, I mean, you're worth like$100 million,$100 billion.
37:46
SPEAKER_02: Like when you pass, your kids are gonna have some money anyway.
37:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they're gonna be they're gonna be plenty um happy.
37:52
SPEAKER_02: Playing to go around, you know.
37:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's plenty to go around exactly.
37:58
SPEAKER_00: Now, um honestly, I we've kind of gotten a little bit off track.
38:04
SPEAKER_00: So I want to talk to you about your mindset.
38:06
SPEAKER_00: Just being an entrepreneur, being a um being a landlord, especially.
38:11
SPEAKER_00: I know landlords can be tough because you're dealing with clout with tenants that are sometimes maybe not the best tenants, especially the short-term tenants that are very, very needy.
38:23
SPEAKER_00: So, how do you stay focused when you're dealing with the ups and downs of real estate investing um in your rentals?
38:30
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, I I I don't own those.
38:33
SPEAKER_02: I rent them, and some of them I do own long term as well, and some I own some too, but the business itself as an entrepreneur is different.
38:41
SPEAKER_02: Like I came from a W-2 world where I was like working, you know, consistent job and and you're working for other people.
38:47
SPEAKER_02: And then what made me, I was always an entrepreneur.
38:50
SPEAKER_02: I I but as an entrepreneur, you know it should be ups and downs.
38:56
SPEAKER_02: I I have told this to some people.
38:58
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, when the when my day and my week is going like pretty easy, um I'm actually scared.
39:05
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, I'd rather have like little bullets, a little like little headaches or whatever you want to call them, little problems.
39:12
SPEAKER_02: Right.
39:13
SPEAKER_02: Like today I had um AC went out, basically, at this one condo, and as we're going through a heat wave here in DC starting today, and like crap, it's also labor day.
39:24
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, man, Timmy, how do you get somebody out there?
39:27
SPEAKER_02: That's to me very light.
39:28
SPEAKER_02: I could go pay for her to go stay in a hotel with her family or one or two nights to like and get it fixed.
39:34
SPEAKER_02: Right.
39:34
SPEAKER_02: I I was calling around before we jumped on this call, but it's not the worst thing.
39:39
SPEAKER_02: Um, I'd rather have I want to be to the point where I can get somebody to do that for me, uh, somebody in my team, so I don't have to do that.
39:45
SPEAKER_02: That's where I'm I'm going with my with my business.
39:47
SPEAKER_02: But that's a small thing to me.
39:49
SPEAKER_02: Some people like, oh my god, no, she's oh yeah, like oh, she's gonna complain and that way they went.
39:54
SPEAKER_02: You gotta be able to handle that.
39:56
SPEAKER_02: That's part of an entrepreneurial life.
39:57
SPEAKER_02: There's ups and downs, and it's never a straight line.
40:00
SPEAKER_02: And you see these graphs that go, entrepreneurship's like this.
40:03
SPEAKER_02: Right.
40:03
SPEAKER_02: And you know, like it's all over the place, and eventually you'll go up.
40:07
SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, like you want like to make a solid career as an engineer or whatever, you and then you have a solid more of a lie that's going slowly tracking up because as you get older, right?
40:18
SPEAKER_02: You'll make more money.
40:19
SPEAKER_02: But even then, like I think around 50, 55, where you top out your earnings for the most part, most jobs, and then you start to crumble down.
40:27
SPEAKER_02: But you for me, here's the thing about entrepreneurship talking about that in terms of most people worry about money.
40:34
SPEAKER_02: So as an entrepreneur, my goal is to retire to a certain age.
40:38
SPEAKER_02: I don't want to work until I'm 62 and retire, like you always see these things, you know.
40:43
SPEAKER_02: Whereas if you get out of college at 21, 22, and you work 40 years, and you're 62, which they might change all that stuff so scary.
40:51
SPEAKER_02: 40 years, and then you're gonna retire.
40:53
SPEAKER_02: Well, you will need to retire and you have all this money left over to go boating, camping, whatever.
40:58
SPEAKER_02: You're 62 years old, your bones are brittle.
41:01
SPEAKER_02: Sorry, right?
41:02
SPEAKER_02: You're getting older, like you'll live longer, don't get me wrong.
41:04
SPEAKER_02: But why enjoy life when you're retired at 62?
41:10
SPEAKER_02: When you can enjoy life and retire when you're at 32, 42.
41:15
SPEAKER_02: Right.
41:15
SPEAKER_02: Like retirements, yeah, it it to me it's a it's a vague thing because I want to quit.
41:21
SPEAKER_02: And basically for me, retirement means I can choose to do whatever I want today.
41:28
SPEAKER_02: I can jump on a plane, go somewhere else, I can go, you know, fly a car or fly on a plane somewhere, or boat somewhere, or go whatever, hunting, go golfing, what skiing.
41:40
SPEAKER_02: I can just do whatever I want.
41:41
SPEAKER_00: Right.
41:42
SPEAKER_02: It's the freedom that I want.
41:44
SPEAKER_02: And I don't want to be like I the reason why uh a tangent there was I don't want to be stuck working the rest of my life.
41:51
SPEAKER_02: So I have to take the ups and downs in the beginning, you're gonna have more downs.
41:56
SPEAKER_02: It's part of life.
41:57
SPEAKER_02: It's part it's funny, you get here you heard you hear more no's and you hear yeses in life.
42:04
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, think about it.
42:05
SPEAKER_02: Right.
42:06
SPEAKER_02: Everybody think about it when you're a kid.
42:08
SPEAKER_02: Hey mom, can I have a cookie?
42:10
SPEAKER_02: Nope.
42:11
SPEAKER_02: You know what?
42:11
SPEAKER_02: Or yes, maybe after you have this, eat your vegetables first, that that stuff.
42:16
SPEAKER_02: It's still no, it's cool.
42:18
SPEAKER_02: Man, go to the bathroom.
42:20
SPEAKER_02: Not yet, Timmy.
42:21
SPEAKER_02: Man's still in the bathroom.
42:22
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, stuff like that.
42:23
SPEAKER_02: Like you're hearing no, like consistently, right?
42:25
SPEAKER_02: And if you get used to being this sensitized by no, and it means nothing, it won't affect you.
42:30
SPEAKER_02: Like, you just understand that.
42:33
SPEAKER_02: Like in our field, as real estate investors, we call these people and like you'll hear like nine no's per year, yes.
42:40
SPEAKER_02: Right.
42:41
SPEAKER_02: It's it's probably a higher narration, but I mean, expect it first, and then again, it doesn't matter.
42:49
SPEAKER_02: Small tangent maybe on mine is I was thinking about this the other day when I was talking to somebody's like why are there more gentlemen real estate like gurus, right?
42:58
SPEAKER_02: A lot of the teachers and gurus for real estate investing are guys you ever thought about that?
43:08
SPEAKER_00: I have now.
43:10
SPEAKER_02: Now that you mention it, it it's you get to pace more being the max max women's red one.
43:15
SPEAKER_02: I think there's one female women coming up now.
43:18
SPEAKER_02: And it's a social media thing, but at the same time, what I made what I made me think about is like the guys are used to hearing no from women that have basically told them, hey, you go out with me, no, right.
43:31
SPEAKER_02: Well, when is that successful?
43:32
SPEAKER_02: Go, I don't care.
43:33
SPEAKER_02: Next the numbers game.
43:36
SPEAKER_02: Number gaming dating.
43:38
SPEAKER_02: And so then, like, okay, well, you're not next model.
43:43
SPEAKER_02: Dude, Tom Brady got dumped by Giselle.
43:45
SPEAKER_00: Right.
43:48
SPEAKER_02: God, dude.
43:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, she was richer than him.
43:51
SPEAKER_02: Did you know that?
43:52
SPEAKER_00: I heard that I I I don't know.
43:55
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I've heard that she's a really successful model and she's richer than him.
43:58
SPEAKER_00: It's it's crazy to even Comprehend honestly, um, that you should make them much up on women for most of the most of their life, and I think they still are, but anyways.
44:10
SPEAKER_02: So are they officially divorced?
44:12
SPEAKER_02: They've been divorced for about I think a year.
44:14
SPEAKER_00: Okay, they are divorced.
44:15
SPEAKER_00: Okay, I knew they like split up or whatever, but yeah.
44:20
SPEAKER_00: So retirement, uh, you said do what I want today.
44:24
SPEAKER_00: Does that mean you're still gonna have your own properties cash following in every month?
44:29
SPEAKER_00: And you'll just have like a property manager, or you just basically, well, you'll have enough cash stacked up already.
44:36
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, I would have enough what there's two things.
44:39
SPEAKER_02: Um, I'm not sure we ever talked about this one.
44:41
SPEAKER_02: There's one called cash flow, and then there's like I call rich money, and then wealthy.
44:46
SPEAKER_02: There's like two portions of the scale.
44:48
SPEAKER_02: I'm still at the portion where I'm trying to build to get rich, not wealthy yet.
44:52
SPEAKER_02: I'm not there yet.
44:53
SPEAKER_02: So, which for me is like I need to have enough monthly income consistent coming in where I can pay my bills, live my life, still happy, and at the same time, I'm still building wealth by buying properties, you know, so I have down the road money.
45:07
SPEAKER_02: So when I do want to retire, I can do I would like in essence uh a nest setting, right?
45:13
SPEAKER_02: That's what they call it.
45:14
SPEAKER_02: Like I have plenty of mothers talking about their work.
45:18
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45:20
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45:22
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45:24
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45:34
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45:39
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45:45
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45:45
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45:46
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45:49
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45:51
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45:52
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46:29
SPEAKER_00: I'm curious, you were saying um you'd rather have a headache than a big mishap later in the week.
46:37
SPEAKER_00: What do you define as a big mishap?
46:40
SPEAKER_02: Like the pipes bursting, you know, someone dying.
46:45
SPEAKER_00: Right.
46:46
SPEAKER_02: So so like a major, like a major thing, like wow, like that actually affect me emotional.
46:52
SPEAKER_02: Like that the pipe bursting probably is not that big, it's probably on the more medium scale because it'll be displaced.
46:57
SPEAKER_02: But in terms of that building, if the pipe did burst, it would put other people on the ish Jeopardy in essence, because she lives on the top floor of my condo, is too well the floors underneath, so like that wander would probably go downstairs and affect other people.
47:12
SPEAKER_02: Um now, yeah, obviously insurance is gonna cover a lot of that stuff, but like it it puts a strain where I'm like, I'm not just thinking about one person, I'm thinking about one family, and like I got other phones I gotta focus on.
47:24
SPEAKER_02: I I feel terrible.
47:25
SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's not my fault, obviously, but like I have to figure that out.
47:29
SPEAKER_02: Right.
47:30
SPEAKER_02: You have properties nationwide, correct?
47:33
SPEAKER_02: Uh yes, some I mean, not every state, but yeah, they're pretty broad.
47:37
SPEAKER_00: So that's is that stressful to manage properties that are so far from one another, or is it more easy?
47:44
SPEAKER_02: Um, yes and no.
47:46
SPEAKER_02: Uh so part of the rental arbitrage strategy should be if you guys ever get into me, pick a pick a market.
47:52
SPEAKER_02: It doesn't have to be like local to you, but pick one market, try to get all the properties in that area for the most part.
47:57
SPEAKER_02: That way you you can kind of build your team.
47:59
SPEAKER_02: And when I was doing it on, I just it was all over the place, and I just happened to pick up properties that were successful that I thought were successful, and then you know, I just kept building from there, and then different things came up where for example, the last one I picked up was near me.
48:14
SPEAKER_02: It's a community member from 72 asked me to take on this property because he was getting relocated from northern Virginia all the way to Dallas, and he's like, I don't have time.
48:24
SPEAKER_02: And um basically, if he rented it out as a regular rental, he would have actually losing a couple hundred dollars a month and you couldn't take all the furniture.
48:31
SPEAKER_02: He's like, It's pretty much like 80% set up because I have furniture there.
48:34
SPEAKER_02: So I came in, would have some furniture, set up the rest of the house, and do the operations and make a little bit out of it, managing one.
48:42
SPEAKER_02: It's like I don't care, so long as I don't lose money, that's all he cared about.
48:45
SPEAKER_02: It's like I still that only don't come out of pocket for two, three hundred dollars a month paying rents.
48:51
SPEAKER_02: Um so yeah, it's just more that again leading value and then trying to help somebody out.
48:56
SPEAKER_02: It's a it's a win-win because I you know he doesn't really get too many headaches wherever things come up.
49:01
SPEAKER_02: I just let them know.
49:02
SPEAKER_00: Right.
49:04
SPEAKER_00: Do you ever do small things?
49:05
SPEAKER_00: I'm thinking like events per se.
49:07
SPEAKER_00: If there's a big event, let's say the Super Bowl, coming to your city or coming to wherever it's coming, would you ever get one that's you know a month and the Airbnb out for that?
49:18
SPEAKER_02: But it's not really yeah, they usually, yeah, sorry, uh, they usually won't do that.
49:23
SPEAKER_02: Like most times you're gonna sign a one-year lease.
49:26
SPEAKER_02: So unless you like already have like a some kind of relationship with these people, right?
49:31
SPEAKER_02: It's like that's totally unlikely.
49:32
SPEAKER_02: Like, I mean, you have friends all around, or like the Super Bowl was in Phoenix last year, or sorry, early this year.
49:38
SPEAKER_02: And even then, like I heard a story of one guy into like 15 oh 15 airborne B's in that state of Phoenix, and he was so oversaturated and maybe overpriced that we only had like less than 50% of his booked over a Super Bowl week.
49:54
SPEAKER_02: Not weekends, week.
49:56
SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
49:56
SPEAKER_02: I don't know if he made profit.
49:58
SPEAKER_02: Hopefully he did, and he wasn't in trouble, but I'm sure that he was not happy with like 50% of his portfolio not getting booked and expecting that.
50:06
SPEAKER_02: That's I mean, that's part of the part of the downs.
50:09
SPEAKER_02: You don't know what you don't know, and you can't control certain things.
50:13
SPEAKER_00: So it's a learning theme.
50:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
50:16
SPEAKER_00: You have to be, I guess, willing to, if you're gonna take that big of a bet, 50 plus Airbnbs, you have to be willing to have it go the wrong way.
50:25
SPEAKER_00: And I guess in that case, unfortunately, it did.
50:28
SPEAKER_00: Um well, yeah.
50:30
SPEAKER_02: The thing is, yeah, I again it's a mindset thing.
50:33
SPEAKER_02: Like, let's say he owns all those and he wasn't renting them.
50:36
SPEAKER_02: If he owns, or you had a portion of those, and let's say he owns half.
50:40
SPEAKER_02: To me, I'm like, and then there's the benefit.
50:42
SPEAKER_02: I always look at the positive side if I can.
50:44
SPEAKER_02: Right.
50:45
SPEAKER_02: And really, on this is like if he owns those, they're not rented, he could probably still turn them over and make them like a long-term rental or just whatever he wants to do, maybe just a couple days here and there that like gets books, but he gets what he called depreciation, which is a benefit of owning real estate.
51:01
SPEAKER_02: The reason why Donald Trump doesn't pay taxes, right?
51:04
SPEAKER_02: Right.
51:04
SPEAKER_02: Depreciation is a very cool thing if you know how to use it.
51:08
SPEAKER_02: And if he owns those and doesn't do rental arbitrages, the property also is going up in value each year.
51:16
SPEAKER_02: So he gets that appreciation as well.
51:18
SPEAKER_02: So there's a lot of extra benefits.
51:19
SPEAKER_02: That's one of the reasons I would love real estate.
51:21
SPEAKER_00: Right.
51:22
SPEAKER_00: Right.
51:23
SPEAKER_00: I think that's one of the biggest reasons.
51:25
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you you see hedge funds getting into real estate, and that's that's all they do, or one of their primary focuses is I mean, they have so much money they need to.
51:36
SPEAKER_00: I mean, most people don't want to be like, oh yeah, let me give billions of dollars to the government, you know, just charity work, just let them let them take all my money.
51:45
SPEAKER_00: I think they'd rather have cash flowing assets.
51:48
SPEAKER_00: Yep, exactly.
51:49
SPEAKER_00: So do you I know we have discussed um miracle morning.
51:55
SPEAKER_00: That's what it's called.
51:56
SPEAKER_00: Miracle Morning.
51:57
SPEAKER_00: Um, never heard of it until you.
52:00
SPEAKER_00: Could you take us into what it is and how it's impacted your life?
52:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, um, I recently I knew about it.
52:09
SPEAKER_02: Uh the book's by a guy named Hal Log, B-L-R-O-D, uh, P J L his first name, Hal.
52:17
SPEAKER_02: Uh, and basically he had there's a movie that came out, and you can watch it watch it on YouTube or behind the scene stuff.
52:24
SPEAKER_02: But what happened to Hal was he basically at his deepest point in life, and I actually told this to one of my best friends, I was like, whatever you think you want when we're down right now, like I can almost guarantee you, this guy in this book, Hal, he's had it worse than me.
52:42
SPEAKER_02: I mean, he had a major car accident, all that other stuff.
52:45
SPEAKER_02: I won't ring the book for you, but it it's a very cool story.
52:48
SPEAKER_02: And basically, when he got out, um basically researching as to what the most successful people do.
52:57
SPEAKER_02: And everyone talks about this meditation, affirmations, exercise, journaling.
53:05
SPEAKER_02: And so basically it's like, why is everybody like Oprah Winfrey's talking about one or two of these things or combinations?
53:11
SPEAKER_02: You're exercising and they're saying, I am the best ever, I am having a great day, I am you know worthy of success, and all these other things, right?
53:20
SPEAKER_02: Uh meditating other stuff, but everybody's doing different things.
53:23
SPEAKER_02: What he basically said was there's six things that they all do, but why not combine all six of them?
53:30
SPEAKER_02: Right.
53:30
SPEAKER_02: And when he basically named it, it's called Savers, and it stands for um silence, which is for meditation.
53:38
SPEAKER_02: So that the first ass is silence, affirmations, the stuff like you know, I was saying before, like I am, you know, great, I am gonna have a great day, I am successful, I am love all these things that you know, tell yourself, and you have to believe it.
53:52
SPEAKER_02: There's other things behind this stuff, and the same thing with meditation.
53:55
SPEAKER_02: So, so there's silence, affirmations, visualization, so they're just kind of visualizing your day and things of that, you know, what meaning wants.
54:05
SPEAKER_02: Um, so E is for exercise, which is simple, R is for reading, right?
54:11
SPEAKER_02: All the stuff that people read.
54:13
SPEAKER_02: And then S, the last S is for scripting or journaling.
54:17
SPEAKER_02: So he said, Why don't we do all six of these?
54:19
SPEAKER_02: And you and basically teaches you can redo it within six minutes, you can do it in an hour.
54:24
SPEAKER_02: So, what it also does is it makes you get up early in the morning.
54:28
SPEAKER_02: And this program basically, in essence, is getting up early and earlier where you get your day started and get everything of these savers done before eight o'clock before the your day actually starts.
54:40
SPEAKER_02: So you're you're starting your day with intention, right?
54:44
SPEAKER_02: Getting these things that will benefit you, right?
54:47
SPEAKER_02: All these things are gonna benefit you.
54:49
SPEAKER_02: Exercising, people like, I don't want to go run right now, or I don't want to wake up and do weeds or yoga, whatever.
54:55
SPEAKER_02: But you know it's really good for you.
54:57
SPEAKER_02: Right.
54:58
SPEAKER_02: Why why men to give yourself time away?
55:02
SPEAKER_02: What I've noticed, to be honest, is like I'll get up in the morning.
55:05
SPEAKER_02: I'd start in at like 7 o'clock, and used to wake up like 7, 8 o'clock, and I woke up earlier.
55:09
SPEAKER_02: Next thing I know, I'm like, I'm gonna tell myself wake up earlier because I wasn't getting the stuff done in time before the the day started, before things got crazy.
55:17
SPEAKER_02: So now I tell myself, I'm gonna get up 5 45 every day.
55:22
SPEAKER_02: You know, and I roll out of bed, do my coffee and all that stuff, and then I start my day with savers, and I think you should do it for about an hour.
55:29
SPEAKER_02: Uh, that's just my other thing.
55:31
SPEAKER_02: And I feel like I what I've done is basically I've taken care of myself, right?
55:37
SPEAKER_02: The rest of the day, anything else I can't control, but I take care and I control my exercise, my breathing, my affirmations, all these other things, my journaling, which helps you write down your goals as well, not just like whatever you want, but there's different ways to journal too.
55:54
SPEAKER_02: I'm loving it, same process.
55:56
SPEAKER_02: I've been doing it for about a little bit over a month, and I gotta tell you, like, I started just running around a little bit and just getting one good.
56:02
SPEAKER_02: You know, but there's more to life, right?
56:05
SPEAKER_02: Like, take care of your health.
56:07
SPEAKER_02: You know, and then there's other things that you can do mantras, whatever you want to call them, affirmations to you know, bring wealth to you.
56:14
SPEAKER_02: Uh I started getting more spiritual, just all these other things that are coming out of this that I found very profound and um successful for me so far.
56:24
SPEAKER_00: Is this something you can do twice a day?
56:26
SPEAKER_00: I I feel like this could be maybe a good morning and pre-bed routine, or no?
56:31
SPEAKER_02: Yes, you can.
56:32
SPEAKER_02: You can do it uh in the evening as well.
56:35
SPEAKER_02: And but here's the thing for me, and I like the way he did it because he said he was an unning guy in this book.
56:40
SPEAKER_02: I like doing it in the morning because the rest of the day will get stressful, get out of control.
56:47
SPEAKER_02: Um if I can control basically if you think about taking care of yourself, it's what it's the old thing of um airplane and the mask things now.
56:58
SPEAKER_02: Put your mask on yourself first, and then put it on your child.
57:00
SPEAKER_02: They always say that every time, right?
57:02
SPEAKER_02: I don't care where you are, mask yourself, then on your child.
57:06
SPEAKER_02: Excuse me.
57:07
SPEAKER_02: So me, it's like I'm taking care of other people, my family, my friends, business partners.
57:14
SPEAKER_02: So I need to take care of me first.
57:16
SPEAKER_02: If I die or if I don't do what I do, then everything else falls apart.
57:21
SPEAKER_02: That's how I see it.
57:22
SPEAKER_02: Now, will that happen?
57:23
SPEAKER_02: No, I'm not you know top of the chain right now.
57:26
SPEAKER_02: But I have people that will still rely on me.
57:30
SPEAKER_02: So if I take care of myself and I feel healthy mentally, spiritually, physically, the rest of the day does not bother me.
57:39
SPEAKER_02: And I'll if you don't mind, I'll tell you a quick story.
57:43
SPEAKER_02: Go ahead.
57:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
57:47
SPEAKER_02: When I did this by about two, maybe a little bit after after two weeks, maybe 16, 17 days.
57:54
SPEAKER_02: I had a neighbor come to me uh across the street, you know, rings the doorbell.
58:00
SPEAKER_02: It's not Sunday like today.
58:01
SPEAKER_02: And around this time, actually, it's not around four, four thirty, five o'clock on the East Coast, and he's like, hey man, I just want to let you know I don't know what's going on, Jay.
58:12
SPEAKER_02: He's like, and I saw these three or four black kids, and uh this other kid was making Spanish or something.
58:18
SPEAKER_02: They they just dropped that shopping cart right on your wand.
58:23
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, oh my god, okay.
58:25
SPEAKER_02: And she's pointing to it.
58:26
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, okay, I appreciate that.
58:28
SPEAKER_02: Let me know.
58:29
SPEAKER_02: Um, and he's really angry.
58:31
SPEAKER_02: He's like, right, and it pissed me off.
58:32
SPEAKER_02: I went over there, I followed those kids.
58:35
SPEAKER_02: I went to their house and and and knocked on the door, talked to the parents, they got their address, talked to the parents with the parents, so I yeah, we'll do this one.
58:41
SPEAKER_02: He's like, I don't even know that she's gonna do anything or anything.
58:44
SPEAKER_02: He's really angry, right?
58:46
SPEAKER_02: Very, very like red and what I call, you know, like he was definitely not feeling happy.
58:52
SPEAKER_02: And I was calm.
58:53
SPEAKER_02: You know, I I I tell this story because it's for me, it's already it's a reflection point for me.
58:59
SPEAKER_02: I looked at him and I go, cool, thanks, Jay.
59:03
SPEAKER_02: I appreciate you letting me know.
59:05
SPEAKER_02: And I was calm.
59:06
SPEAKER_02: And I usually get mad.
59:07
SPEAKER_02: I used to get mad at small things that sugar me, right?
59:10
SPEAKER_02: So I could be in America Morning and all this stuff, and like I man, I totally get that.
59:15
SPEAKER_02: And he's like, Aren't you mad?
59:16
SPEAKER_02: He said, he actually said, Aren't you mad?
59:18
SPEAKER_02: And I said, I looked at him calmly and I said, No, I'm not.
59:22
SPEAKER_02: He said, Why, dude?
59:23
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, Yeah, honestly, man, like I was a young kid, and I did some stupid things when I was a kid, number one, you know?
59:31
SPEAKER_02: So I get that from their standpoint.
59:32
SPEAKER_02: So I'm looking at a different perspective coming from their mind.
59:36
SPEAKER_02: And I said, To be honest with you, leaving a shopping cart in my lawn, yes, that really hurt me though.
59:44
SPEAKER_02: They didn't tear up my house, they didn't like slam it into like my garage or my window and and vandalize my house.
59:51
SPEAKER_02: They just happen to leave it that had to be there.
59:53
SPEAKER_02: They could have left it like a few blocks away in an in a more community area, but they didn't.
59:58
SPEAKER_02: That's fine.
59:59
SPEAKER_02: And I just looked out of the calmly and said, you know, honestly, I'm not like and then I didn't expect until I I finished the conversation with him.
1:00:06
SPEAKER_02: I came back in the house and like, man, I literally would have jumped never triggered me before.
1:00:12
unknown: Right.
1:00:13
SPEAKER_02: Like, maybe it's just Nick Robin that's gotten me a little more calm and understanding about it's not gonna be and in the world.
1:00:19
SPEAKER_02: Some people would take that for for and be like super pissed off and like go, where do they live?
1:00:24
SPEAKER_02: Give me that address, let me call the cops.
1:00:25
SPEAKER_02: And he actually was like, What do you think I should do?
1:00:28
SPEAKER_02: Call the cops and go, yeah, but dude, and I actually said to him I said, cops aren't gonna do anything.
1:00:33
SPEAKER_02: I mean, they have this is nothing, like to be honest with you.
1:00:36
SPEAKER_02: That's not a waste of cops' time because this is minute.
1:00:39
SPEAKER_02: That small drip in the road, that row of road that bump that I was talking about for basis.
1:00:43
SPEAKER_02: This is like literally like a pimple size issue to me.
1:00:47
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, dude, why are you so mad?
1:00:49
SPEAKER_02: And then I didn't ask him that.
1:00:51
SPEAKER_02: But that was like the next day I walked outside and I saw his car, and it I saw like bumper getting uh messed up.
1:00:59
SPEAKER_02: I'm not sure how long that's been, but I noticed it.
1:01:01
SPEAKER_02: And I was like, maybe because he probably had a bad accident.
1:01:05
SPEAKER_02: He had a bad day.
1:01:06
SPEAKER_02: Obviously, he had something that triggered him because here's the thing it wasn't even his yard, he's across the street.
1:01:14
SPEAKER_02: Like, why does he care?
1:01:16
SPEAKER_02: And he taught he's talked to me maybe like once every year.
1:01:20
SPEAKER_02: So I'm like, what is going on?
1:01:24
SPEAKER_02: So I just like something must have triggered him to get really mad.
1:01:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:01:28
SPEAKER_02: So what I internalized really was like, I'm glad I didn't jump and get triggered by that.
1:01:34
SPEAKER_02: I could have easily in the past.
1:01:36
SPEAKER_02: And I was like so calm that I saw him calm down too.
1:01:41
SPEAKER_02: And I helped desensitize the whole situation because he could have maybe did something stupid, maybe.
1:01:46
SPEAKER_02: I don't know, I often would have.
1:01:48
SPEAKER_02: But I was like, cool, like now, I'm helping him out.
1:01:52
SPEAKER_02: And I and I just said to him, like, it doesn't really bother me.
1:01:55
SPEAKER_02: Like it didn't concern things that were worse than this.
1:01:58
SPEAKER_02: And he's like, Man, yeah, I guess you're right.
1:02:00
SPEAKER_02: He actually said, Yeah, I guess you're right.
1:02:02
SPEAKER_02: And he didn't believe me probably yet, but he understood that I wasn't mad.
1:02:07
SPEAKER_02: And I didn't tell him until later, a couple weeks later, I was like, you know, that whole situation in the car, like, I I don't it's not even your man.
1:02:16
SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't get why you're so pissed off because, yeah, man, just came back, you know, kids are bothering me and all this other stuff.
1:02:22
SPEAKER_02: So there's other things that triggered him.
1:02:25
SPEAKER_02: It wasn't even anything.
1:02:26
SPEAKER_02: This is the final little like match or whatever you want to call it, right?
1:02:30
SPEAKER_02: So I was like, Yeah, man, it's it's not a big deal, man.
1:02:32
SPEAKER_02: Like, there's so many stupid things that happen in the world.
1:02:34
SPEAKER_02: This is very so minor, you know, and and yeah, to me, it's it was good for me.
1:02:42
SPEAKER_02: Like I learned more about that situation, and I'll never I'll never forget that because maybe it's the timing of the whole thing of doing miracle morning, getting better.
1:02:51
SPEAKER_02: And it's my self-improvement, maybe it's for me like uh I'm getting better with this miracle morning stuff in terms of my mindset, my how to deal with stress or something like that.
1:03:03
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:03:04
SPEAKER_00: So you're you're seeing you're seeing real world differences in in yourself just from doing this this savors, the miracle morning.
1:03:12
SPEAKER_00: How long have you been doing it?
1:03:14
SPEAKER_02: A little bit over a month.
1:03:15
SPEAKER_02: Um, I started running around the net sizes, and then uh my buddy I saw posted, I seen the book and I uh I actually watched the movie on YouTube.
1:03:23
SPEAKER_02: This is really cool out the story.
1:03:25
SPEAKER_02: I've heard good things about how and one says anything bad with they he's got a community and all this stuff, and it's just it's it's a cool thing to keep yourself going.
1:03:34
SPEAKER_02: Like, hey, people take a picture of hey, I was I woke up at five o'clock in the morning, you know, alarm o'clock, and getting my day started.
1:03:41
SPEAKER_02: And you can do these things in you know, basically six minutes, you can do them in like six hours.
1:03:46
SPEAKER_02: It's up to you how you want to do it.
1:03:47
SPEAKER_02: But the the ultimate thing why I get out of it is like I'm doing something for myself.
1:03:53
SPEAKER_02: I am a person that does things for other people first, right?
1:03:57
SPEAKER_02: If I'm doing something myself, I'm taking care of myself at the end of the day, but the rest of the day is towards everybody else.
1:04:04
SPEAKER_02: But my first hour is typically on me.
1:04:07
SPEAKER_00: And you might yourself, but I think you would not be able to give as much to the people around you if you weren't doing this for yourself.
1:04:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:04:15
SPEAKER_00: I think it's I think it's really powerful.
1:04:17
SPEAKER_00: I have one two questions.
1:04:20
SPEAKER_00: One, how long does it typically take you?
1:04:22
SPEAKER_00: Because I know you said it can literally take six minutes, you just do a minute of everything.
1:04:26
SPEAKER_00: I'm assuming it takes you about 2.15, two hours, 15 minutes with the before 8 a.m.
1:04:32
SPEAKER_02: I do um so I wake up, you know, like 5.45 and I go do the morning stuff, brush your teeth, and all that stuff, and uh make the coffee.
1:04:40
SPEAKER_02: And then I start my day, I start my routine probably around like 6.15-ish.
1:04:45
SPEAKER_02: And I finish it probably about 7, 18, 7:30.
1:04:48
SPEAKER_02: It just depends on like uh what I'm reading.
1:04:51
SPEAKER_02: Sometimes I'm listening to like formations.
1:04:53
SPEAKER_02: I think a lot of stuff on they have an app as well.
1:04:57
SPEAKER_02: Uh, and you can do some of the stuff on the app, you can do guided meditation.
1:05:00
SPEAKER_02: I I was on YouTube listening to different things.
1:05:03
SPEAKER_02: Actually, the recent thing I was uh listening to and watching to this morning, I mean last week, actually, was Tony Robbins, you know, and said you're you can pick and choose what you want.
1:05:12
SPEAKER_02: I was listening to Tony Robbins on uh his book, Money Master of the Game.
1:05:17
SPEAKER_02: This is a very interesting book.
1:05:18
SPEAKER_02: And I finished there's a book that can't that's called The Miracle Morning by How FYI.
1:05:26
SPEAKER_02: You get different miracle warnings, they have miracle warnings for students, miracle warnings for like teachers, miracle warnings for like family, and like how to get better, and just different different books, and um even fracking for Lumeless Investors, other one.
1:05:40
SPEAKER_02: Like that's a regular miracle morning one, and I was like, this is a cool book.
1:05:44
SPEAKER_02: Um, if I want to add more, I I can add more, but just the premise of of doing those things and getting big up today.
1:05:51
SPEAKER_02: And we can do it, like you said, morning, evening.
1:05:54
SPEAKER_02: Some people do it in the afternoon.
1:05:56
SPEAKER_02: I just happen to like, I mean, I like the app because it has this thing you can cook off and.
1:06:00
SPEAKER_02: I did each one of these bull blah blah roll and I it keeps me going like motivated, like I'll keep going get the streep as long as I can.
1:06:07
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:06:08
SPEAKER_00: I think you answered it a little bit.
1:06:10
SPEAKER_00: Um, that you can kind of modify it to what you want.
1:06:14
SPEAKER_00: I was wondering if you have to do it in a certain order.
1:06:19
SPEAKER_00: Order?
1:06:20
SPEAKER_00: So savors, silence, affirmations.
1:06:23
SPEAKER_02: No, you can do it any way you want.
1:06:24
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I always start with uh well, I don't always start.
1:06:28
SPEAKER_02: I start most of the mornings with the size affirmations.
1:06:30
SPEAKER_02: They can kind of be come together.
1:06:32
SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, usually you're pretty tired morning.
1:06:35
SPEAKER_02: I I actually it's funny, I feel more refreshed.
1:06:37
SPEAKER_02: I used to when I started running more, I feel more refreshed.
1:06:40
SPEAKER_02: And I go for jogs.
1:06:41
SPEAKER_02: Well, some people do yoga and other strength stuff.
1:06:44
SPEAKER_02: And for me, I I do I do the running and exercise last.
1:06:49
SPEAKER_02: And I take a cold shower.
1:06:51
SPEAKER_02: Um you know, so to I get that split in and then take a cold shower.
1:06:55
SPEAKER_02: Because cold showers are like I found out something good for you, or actually a cold plunge, which I'm gonna start trying to do soon.
1:07:01
SPEAKER_00: Cold plunges are great.
1:07:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, especially they make cold showers look like nothing.
1:07:08
SPEAKER_00: Nothing.
1:07:08
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm at least level.
1:07:10
SPEAKER_02: Not yet, not not there yet.
1:07:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it it's it's I haven't taken the warm shower in at least a few months now.
1:07:18
SPEAKER_00: I only take cold showers, but even like like I said, the cold plunge compared to a cold shower is way different.
1:07:24
SPEAKER_00: Because I think a shower is probably 60 degrees, and the cold plunge that I have been using is 40.
1:07:31
SPEAKER_00: So just right there.
1:07:32
SPEAKER_00: And 40, I don't know.
1:07:34
SPEAKER_00: I'm sure there's some that are even colder than that, but it's I mean it's a 20-degree difference.
1:07:39
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's huge.
1:07:40
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I I would buy I heard somewhere like you do 50 50 degrees or 48 degrees, 50 degrees for three minutes.
1:07:46
SPEAKER_02: This guy named Gary Breca, I'm not sure you're heard Gary, is the guy who runs 10x health.
1:07:51
SPEAKER_00: Sounds possibly familiar.
1:07:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:07:54
SPEAKER_02: You've tried a Grant Card down.
1:07:56
SPEAKER_00: I have.
1:07:57
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think everybody's on one now.
1:07:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Gary Brecca is the guy who does the health on the 10x health family.
1:08:05
SPEAKER_02: Talks about it all the time, like breathing, just different kinds of breathing, and talks about and um I have done things sometimes where at part of America Morning, sometimes I will stand with uh bare feet on grass.
1:08:17
SPEAKER_02: It's like there's an energy course between that as well.
1:08:20
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, C S got cool, you know, like just getting into tapping into stuff that I didn't know, and so you have to believe it.
1:08:28
SPEAKER_02: You should.
1:08:29
SPEAKER_02: I think I mean the joint things that are gonna benefit you, right?
1:08:33
SPEAKER_02: So you shouldn't have a little knowledge, like, oh, someone says, But go drink, uh, you know, like bath water.
1:08:39
SPEAKER_02: Is it really helping?
1:08:40
SPEAKER_02: Like it's good for you, like you know.
1:08:41
SPEAKER_02: Well, someone's like, take a bite, you know, get some shrooms.
1:08:44
SPEAKER_02: Like, okay, well, our shrooms, you know, like yeah, you should do your own research, obviously.
1:08:49
SPEAKER_02: It has to work for you.
1:08:50
SPEAKER_02: Like, going back to the other question, two hours, one hour, six minutes, it's up to you how you want to do it.
1:08:57
SPEAKER_02: The the trick thing is get everything completed, get your date started with intent, and then that way the rest of the day becomes to me, it you already kind of stressed out.
1:09:08
SPEAKER_02: Like, I've done all my exercise and uh accomplished what I need to.
1:09:12
SPEAKER_02: Like the first thing is I already accomplished one thing, right?
1:09:15
SPEAKER_02: So one rest of the days, like I've if nothing else, I I've gotten physical, spiritual, and mental capabilities and my health ready to go.
1:09:24
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:09:25
SPEAKER_00: I'm just I'm I'm just curious because I I don't know how you can fit an exercise and reading, because exercise, I mean, when I think of exercising, it's usually at least an hour.
1:09:35
SPEAKER_00: Uh well, it depends on what kind of exercise, I guess.
1:09:38
SPEAKER_00: Um, reading maybe 20-30 minutes, but do you do you have a set time that you do for each one?
1:09:45
SPEAKER_00: Or is it kind of just how you're feeling each individual day?
1:09:48
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, it's every every everything's a little different, uh not pre-plannable or anything.
1:09:53
SPEAKER_02: It's like again, like they have the app and you can type tap in the app, like they have different combinations.
1:09:58
SPEAKER_02: Um, they have different people on their app telling you like it's a guided invitation.
1:10:02
SPEAKER_02: Go sit down, close your eyes, find a comfortable spot, revenue missile, and you know, which you're gonna be doing your affirmations, uh, I'm doing your your silence.
1:10:13
SPEAKER_02: And well, I'll also need um some exercise.
1:10:16
SPEAKER_02: Sometimes I'll call you like I think I did one this morning.
1:10:19
SPEAKER_02: It's like I sat down, closed my eyes, and they're guiding through, like, telling you like what affirmations to talk about.
1:10:26
SPEAKER_02: So there's different ones, like getting your bowls, getting your right, um, yeah, just a bunch of different stuff.
1:10:33
SPEAKER_00: But it it's it's neat.
1:10:35
SPEAKER_00: I've heard Grant Cardono also mention that he writes his goals.
1:10:40
SPEAKER_00: I think goals and objectives, first thing in the morning and last thing in the evening, goals being, you know, long term, what do I want to achieve in basically my lifetime?
1:10:51
SPEAKER_00: And objectives, what am I gonna do today that's gonna get me towards those goals?
1:10:55
SPEAKER_00: So I think it it's definitely onto something there and would be for me.
1:11:00
SPEAKER_00: I've definitely never never done anything like this.
1:11:02
SPEAKER_00: I've done you know, exercise first thing in the morning pretty consistently.
1:11:06
SPEAKER_00: Um but nothing, nothing like this.
1:11:09
SPEAKER_00: I think that could be powerful for for myself and for pretty much anyone.
1:11:14
SPEAKER_00: Um are there any well how I want to think about how I'm gonna phrase it.
1:11:22
SPEAKER_00: How important would you say just mental well-being is in your line of business?
1:11:26
SPEAKER_00: Do you think it's crucial?
1:11:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think mental well-being in general.
1:11:31
SPEAKER_02: Like I have actually a background in psychology from uh college.
1:11:35
SPEAKER_02: I actually have a degree in psychology, but I'd never practice or anything making it big and white while pursuing it fully.
1:11:42
SPEAKER_02: But I think mentally you're always getting stuff going on with the mental health issues, you know, nowadays with kids that are getting harassed on online, social media is bad for you, and all these other things.
1:11:56
SPEAKER_02: But yeah, I think mentally it's the mentality and the mindset.
1:12:02
SPEAKER_02: If you're gonna become an entrepreneur, be a real estate or any kind of business or any venture, you have to have thick skin.
1:12:10
SPEAKER_02: And also you have to you have to totally believe it to be successful.
1:12:14
SPEAKER_02: Sometimes that fake until you make it thing.
1:12:16
SPEAKER_02: I I don't know.
1:12:17
SPEAKER_02: I I used to tell myself like things are happening.
1:12:21
SPEAKER_02: One of my mantras of last nation is like things are happening for me, not to me.
1:12:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'll say it like and I believe it.
1:12:28
SPEAKER_02: Like I have crazy stories in the last year that things are happening, and if you're open and you're called, I think, being abundant, the open-mindedness, and you attract the things that you want.
1:12:45
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:12:46
SPEAKER_02: You know, answer sometimes answers, sometimes it's right in front of you, but the universe is I I just feel like there's a higher being now.
1:12:53
SPEAKER_02: I went this the way before, nothing before middle of the morning, but even like a couple months ago, like I I don't know, the universe is working against me.
1:13:01
SPEAKER_02: Like I was so negative.
1:13:02
SPEAKER_02: Like now I'm like, I just believe the universe is sending me signs.
1:13:05
SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm on a point in my life where I'm doing the right things, I'm on the right path.
1:13:11
SPEAKER_02: It's nothing's it's not perfect, don't get me wrong.
1:13:14
SPEAKER_02: It'll never be perfect, and I accept that.
1:13:17
SPEAKER_02: But I know that you know every day I get a little better.
1:13:21
SPEAKER_02: It doesn't even matter if it's like I got I ran a little faster today, or I you know did more breathing exercises today, got more breath work, I've lost some weight today, or I ate better.
1:13:31
SPEAKER_02: There's so many different things that you can be better every single day in different parts in your life, yeah.
1:13:38
SPEAKER_02: And sometimes it could be like, you know, starting with intent, or I just want to be a better, you know, husband when we are a father.
1:13:48
SPEAKER_02: And suddenly, you know, it's funny like when I do walks now, and I see my neighbors walking around the neighborhood.
1:13:53
SPEAKER_02: I wave high and smile, and people that didn't you know in the beginning reply back and smile, they do now.
1:14:00
SPEAKER_02: It's like after I'm like, I'm hey, I'm warning, right?
1:14:04
SPEAKER_02: Like bringing the thing smile on somebody else's face, and it's funny when you smile, you always say when you smile, you actually release these endorphins and stuff.
1:14:11
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it just makes you feel happy.
1:14:14
SPEAKER_02: You look at a child and you happen to smile, you can't not smile at the kid or they well, you could, you know, they're pooping on you.
1:14:22
SPEAKER_02: That's a different story, but like you know, it's like every kid you see him smile.
1:14:26
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's like, dude, are you are you dead inside or you don't you don't want to think adorable?
1:14:35
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like that's that's great, baby.
1:14:38
SPEAKER_02: Dude, a kid's chubby as crap, he's got his pants down.
1:14:41
SPEAKER_02: That's still freaking awesome.
1:14:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, hilarious.
1:14:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:14:47
SPEAKER_00: So in a month, four weeks, thirty days, your life has shifted dramatically because of your because of this miracle morning mentally, physically, and now I'm wondering how it's translating into your business, how it's impacted your business.
1:15:05
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean, it's it's just helping me basically start my day with better intent.
1:15:08
SPEAKER_02: I write my goals down a little bit more.
1:15:10
SPEAKER_02: So I don't do it every single day because I write my journal and such different things.
1:15:15
SPEAKER_02: I try to move it around.
1:15:17
SPEAKER_02: But uh what I've started doing the last couple of days is like write down one or two goals each day.
1:15:23
SPEAKER_02: So that way I can start once I get out of the shower, you know, either after my exercise or because I usually do scribing, then I go out and do running, and then come back.
1:15:31
SPEAKER_02: Or it's what those are my last two usually.
1:15:34
SPEAKER_02: Um, and then I go and jump in the shower once I get once I get back out.
1:15:38
SPEAKER_02: It's like okay, I can look at my journal and go just to remind you, this is what this is what I told myself I need to do today.
1:15:45
SPEAKER_02: These are the top one or two or three things that I need to get done.
1:15:48
SPEAKER_02: It's really more for me if it's already my year.
1:15:52
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:15:53
SPEAKER_00: How do you define your goals?
1:15:55
SPEAKER_00: How do you do you define them as like the great card owned type of goals where it's like a lifetime thing or something that you can hit and achieve today?
1:16:03
SPEAKER_00: The smart goals that people talk about.
1:16:05
SPEAKER_02: No, I think you should have well, yeah.
1:16:06
SPEAKER_02: I think you should have smart goals, but I think also like once in a while you should have goals that are like extraordinary.
1:16:12
SPEAKER_02: Like you can't even you don't even think it's possible.
1:16:14
SPEAKER_02: Because like why limit yourself, right?
1:16:17
SPEAKER_00: Like I I think if you I think if you make goals that you believe are possible, then you're not setting your goals.
1:16:24
SPEAKER_00: Those are only goals.
1:16:25
SPEAKER_00: You know, those aren't goals, it's not something you know you can achieve, so it's it's just a matter of how do you like it.
1:16:31
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I want to make ten dollars today.
1:16:32
SPEAKER_02: Like that's pretty much doable.
1:16:34
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like you should be like you want a goal that's again like attainable, but you know, hard enough to to get.
1:16:41
SPEAKER_02: That's the reason why it's called like it's like I want to be able to grab that piece of that tree, and now you know I'm like a foot away.
1:16:47
SPEAKER_02: Okay, well, I need to jump higher.
1:16:49
SPEAKER_02: Well, right.
1:16:50
SPEAKER_02: So then I jump two two inches higher, or I think I'm closer by two inches, two inches, two inches every day.
1:16:55
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:16:56
SPEAKER_02: Five in five days or so, I should be able to touch that well, six days or so grab it cost.
1:17:01
SPEAKER_02: Sorry, but so you can, you know, that's a smart general goal where you can measure it at the same time.
1:17:06
SPEAKER_02: But I think there's like a we have to have a crazy outlandish goal for a lifetime, right?
1:17:13
SPEAKER_02: I think it makes it fun.
1:17:14
SPEAKER_02: Like you would dream, like goes and dream big.
1:17:17
SPEAKER_00: Dream big.
1:17:18
SPEAKER_00: I think you always hear shoot for the stars, but I would counter that with don't shoot for the stars, shoot for the moon.
1:17:26
SPEAKER_00: If you miss a moon, guess where you're gonna end up.
1:17:29
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
1:17:29
SPEAKER_00: The stars.
1:17:30
SPEAKER_02: Funny you say that because like I had this crazy weird bot dream.
1:17:35
SPEAKER_02: I'm not even sure what it was a couple of days ago.
1:17:38
SPEAKER_02: I don't know how this came up, but sometimes your subconscious tells me as part of the um sometimes meditation and stuff like that, but I was like, someone had asked me something, and I was Alan Vangers triggered my subconscious.
1:17:52
SPEAKER_02: I want to go to space.
1:17:57
SPEAKER_02: I've always been enamored by the stars and possible aliens and all these other things.
1:18:02
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, I want to go to space now that we are going more on in Jeff Bezos.
1:18:07
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, I I I want that.
1:18:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and I mean, I don't want to actually like be like the Jeff basis where I just get out there, oh I see it, and I'm like, I like literally I want to be like an astronaut, I want to be there for like a while, you know, like beyond the whatever you call it, atmosphere, or not just a couple minutes, I you know, waitlessness.
1:18:26
SPEAKER_02: I want to be like, man, I can see the sun, I can see wounds and plants, asteroids, yeah, you know, whatever.
1:18:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
1:18:35
SPEAKER_02: I don't know, not not for a whole day, possibly for a few hours.
1:18:39
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:18:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think I think that would be really cool too.
1:18:42
SPEAKER_00: I've thought about that myself.
1:18:43
SPEAKER_00: Do you think that is an attainable goal or do you think it's kind of far-fetched?
1:18:47
SPEAKER_02: No, I think it's super attainable because if you think about it, more and more people are doing it.
1:18:51
SPEAKER_02: Now it's like, you know, what they're doing is they're giving the wealthiest people that have the money to get the training and all that stuff.
1:18:58
SPEAKER_02: But um, I think eventually you want to be doing that down the road now.
1:19:03
SPEAKER_02: How fast?
1:19:04
SPEAKER_02: You're gonna start you're gonna need the money because it's so expensive.
1:19:07
SPEAKER_02: It's just like right now with electric cars, they're so fairly expensive for a lot of people, but they're getting, you know, like you on making those card model threes that are more affordable for everybody.
1:19:17
SPEAKER_02: Eventually, there's somebody that's coming through that's gonna be able to get you the space for cheaper rate.
1:19:22
SPEAKER_02: Um and it's a matter of if you want to go, obviously.
1:19:26
SPEAKER_00: So it as of right now, I didn't know that.
1:19:29
SPEAKER_00: But as of right now, I guess it's it's kind of a luxury vacation for the for the elites.
1:19:35
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but you're thinking it would be more commoditizing it in the future.
1:19:40
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, definitely.
1:19:40
SPEAKER_02: I think I mean that's what it's another old school.
1:19:45
SPEAKER_02: We uh you're probably doing up in the movie with the show The Jetsons, where it's like you're finding other you know other countries.
1:19:53
SPEAKER_00: I've heard of the show, never watched it.
1:19:55
SPEAKER_00: I am a little bit young for it.
1:19:57
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think you look forward to yellow.
1:19:59
SPEAKER_02: That's uh one of my favorite shows I was cartoons when I was growing up.
1:20:01
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, I think it's that cool thing, like you know, why the show?
1:20:06
SPEAKER_02: You know, yeah.
1:20:06
SPEAKER_02: I was thinking crazy part of my Montana, I guess, but like I love talking about and and learning about other things that I just believe there's aliens out there, and okay.
1:20:19
SPEAKER_02: I I don't think anyone can say, oh, we have the human race, and that's all we have that we see here.
1:20:24
SPEAKER_02: But there's a possibility.
1:20:26
SPEAKER_02: I'm not saying there is it, I'm saying there's you can't say no, there's no possibility of other beings or other species out because we don't know what we won't know.
1:20:36
SPEAKER_02: We don't know could the could the planet actually be flat?
1:20:39
SPEAKER_02: It possibly could.
1:20:40
SPEAKER_02: I've never got out of the space to see the whole thing.
1:20:43
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, maybe that's a lot.
1:20:45
SPEAKER_02: I won't care, but I I want to know, and I want to be open to like, yeah, there's other other species coming in.
1:20:52
SPEAKER_02: And I want to be able to tap their brains, like if I can talk to them, like, hey, where'd you come from?
1:20:57
SPEAKER_02: When are you bringing to the to uh to us?
1:20:59
SPEAKER_02: Like, you know, and you smarter than us, all this and you dark, and we got here, we need more than you, right?
1:21:05
SPEAKER_02: So, you know, I it's it's an opportunity I see it as an opportunity to learn.
1:21:10
SPEAKER_02: Or some people might be, oh my god, they gotta come take a feeling I'm about I'm gonna die anyway.
1:21:14
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:21:15
SPEAKER_02: So, you know.
1:21:17
SPEAKER_00: What do you think about like the the people that say there are already aliens on Earth?
1:21:23
SPEAKER_00: Like, I think people say Zuck is an alien, like lizard type of thing, the reptilians.
1:21:29
SPEAKER_02: Oh, I mean, there's I if I said it, it might not who knows.
1:21:35
SPEAKER_02: I I I do believe there's some aliens because I I watch these crazy stupid shows on National Geographic and History Channel.
1:21:42
SPEAKER_02: Um, my conspiracy theory would probably be longer than this show that we're on right now.
1:21:48
SPEAKER_02: So it's it's a definitely neat thing.
1:21:50
SPEAKER_02: I I I believe I I choose to believe in the impossives that people don't want to make me possibly like more scary.
1:21:58
SPEAKER_02: I just have been enamored by I think if anyone came here, if they're so much smarter than we are, they we're probably using that technology.
1:22:06
SPEAKER_00: If you think about like what makes you think they would be smarter than us?
1:22:13
SPEAKER_00: What makes you think they want to be just at the same point as we are?
1:22:17
SPEAKER_02: The reason why I think they're smart is they got here.
1:22:20
SPEAKER_02: We never we have not found a English planet, right?
1:22:25
SPEAKER_02: But if they came here somehow, I mean they've already obviously had full capabilities.
1:22:33
SPEAKER_02: Now, when did they come here?
1:22:38
SPEAKER_02: Their technology is way advanced than we are, right?
1:22:42
SPEAKER_02: So, and that'd be cool.
1:22:43
SPEAKER_02: And I actually believe that's the case because story from not actually I mean, I'm talking pre uh prehistoric times, is what I'm hearing.
1:22:56
SPEAKER_00: So you think they are just eons ahead of us?
1:23:01
SPEAKER_02: I think they they act like meaning to us and uh penetrated the human race.
1:23:07
SPEAKER_02: The thing of um uh looking to uh a history channel called the Ainakis, uh back in Egypt times.
1:23:16
SPEAKER_02: The pyramids were you know, and Egypt was sent here in the hub.
1:23:21
SPEAKER_02: Um various uh possible aidings that came through all facing maybe um what you call love in kind of painting human race by just getting whatever having the what I don't know how they didn't natural stuff we talk about now, or it's more insemination or something like that.
1:23:48
SPEAKER_02: Who knows what happened?
1:23:50
SPEAKER_02: But I I believe that's the case because there's certain people that are just different names that happen.
1:23:57
SPEAKER_02: I think Elon could be a freaking animal at this point, yeah.
1:23:59
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like I didn't like guy looks like he could last sleep and still get work done.
1:24:05
SPEAKER_00: We've seen some crazy pictures from him the sleeping in the office at 3 a.m.
1:24:10
SPEAKER_00: on the floor, like several, I mean, decabillionaire, multi-decabillionaire sleeping on the office.
1:24:16
SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean think about the think about his ideas too.
1:24:19
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, think about the ideas that he's had with this in Skrell and how advanced he is in front of all these things.
1:24:25
SPEAKER_02: Not saying every business he's done has been successful, it's not one is all the time, but look how much impact he's made on not just the US, but look at the ones in his built-out PayPal, right?
1:24:41
SPEAKER_02: And then why did he not take the money from there and just live his life?
1:24:45
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:24:46
SPEAKER_02: What what made him start Tesla?
1:24:48
SPEAKER_02: What made him start willing that that might be the next thing?
1:24:51
SPEAKER_02: Now then well, before Tesla was uh Electric Cars and Solar Power was not brand new.
1:24:58
SPEAKER_02: What made him Eagle One?
1:25:00
SPEAKER_02: What made him do the space thing right now?
1:25:03
SPEAKER_02: It's going forward, um, all these different visions that he's got going.
1:25:07
SPEAKER_02: Well he's trying to go back home, I think.
1:25:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
1:25:10
SPEAKER_00: He's trying to he's trying to go back home or chase the people back here, I guess.
1:25:14
SPEAKER_02: Possibly.
1:25:15
SPEAKER_02: Possibly.
1:25:16
SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's it's a cool story.
1:25:18
SPEAKER_02: I mean, like it's maybe it's conspiracy theory, it can be not not anything at all, but I don't know.
1:25:24
SPEAKER_02: I just I think it's just kinda neat.
1:25:26
SPEAKER_02: Why why not believe them?
1:25:27
SPEAKER_02: I'm I'm a fancy guy anyway, so it's like kind of cool.
1:25:31
SPEAKER_02: My god, we can go to whatever planet, and they're this people.
1:25:35
SPEAKER_02: Yes, actually, aliens are real.
1:25:37
SPEAKER_02: Like, oh my god, like imagine if oh aliens are real.
1:25:44
SPEAKER_02: What are you gonna do?
1:25:46
SPEAKER_02: And there's so many ways to think about it, like um there's talk there's talk about you know the earth is what what's it three quarters in water?
1:25:56
SPEAKER_02: We don't haven't we haven't explored like 60% of of the oceans.
1:26:01
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:26:02
SPEAKER_02: We don't know and uh I I kind of grew up in this fantasy world, so maybe it's maybe just more me and getting influenced by that, but I just don't I think it's kinda cool.
1:26:12
SPEAKER_00: I think either way would be cool.
1:26:14
SPEAKER_00: Um now we I have taken a page out of Lewis Howe's book, and I think it's appropriate to what we're talking about right now, actually.
1:26:23
SPEAKER_00: The first question is from him.
1:26:26
SPEAKER_00: It's your last day on earth.
1:26:28
SPEAKER_00: Everything you've created has to go with you.
1:26:31
SPEAKER_00: You can only leave behind or share three lessons that you know to be true or of value.
1:26:36
SPEAKER_00: What are they?
1:26:39
SPEAKER_02: I apologize.
1:26:39
SPEAKER_02: I had the bug back appearing.
1:26:41
SPEAKER_02: I was running low on battery.
1:26:42
SPEAKER_02: It's like give me your legs again.
1:26:44
SPEAKER_02: You read that again?
1:26:45
SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry.
1:26:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I said I took a page out of Lewis Howe's book.
1:26:49
SPEAKER_00: I said it's appropriate, I think, for all the aliens we're talking about.
1:26:54
SPEAKER_00: I I said it's your last day on earth.
1:26:57
SPEAKER_00: Everything you've created has to go with you.
1:26:59
SPEAKER_00: You can only leave behind or share three lessons that you know to be true or of value.
1:27:04
SPEAKER_00: What are they?
1:27:07
SPEAKER_02: Expect life to be complicated than if you like that's probably one, like it's just part of life.
1:27:16
SPEAKER_02: I think it's the same thing.
1:27:17
SPEAKER_02: Um no one lives a perfect life.
1:27:21
SPEAKER_02: No, nothing's perfect in general, so that's part of one.
1:27:24
SPEAKER_02: Um keep growing, right?
1:27:28
SPEAKER_02: I think you should continue to grow no matter what that is.
1:27:30
SPEAKER_02: I mean eventually, you know, we get to a certain height and we stop growing, that's what people think, but like grow your mind, continue to learn.
1:27:38
SPEAKER_02: Um that's what I do.
1:27:40
SPEAKER_02: I I I quite enjoy learning.
1:27:42
SPEAKER_02: Like, I wasn't that way when I was younger, but now I'm older.
1:27:46
SPEAKER_02: Like entrepreneurship's what mean one to learn.
1:27:48
SPEAKER_02: I'm learning about like how to be a better meter, how to catch my instance.
1:27:53
SPEAKER_02: My stuff I don't need to learn, but I like it excites me.
1:27:55
SPEAKER_02: Like, not just real estate, but I want to be able to like learn.
1:28:00
SPEAKER_02: That stuff to like keep one money in you know my down the road my employees' pockets, my partner's pockets.
1:28:06
SPEAKER_02: You know, build wealth for their family, not for me, because I don't have a family.
1:28:09
SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't have to get married, but you never know.
1:28:12
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, right.
1:28:13
SPEAKER_02: But I think you know, I want to I want to help more people out that way.
1:28:16
SPEAKER_02: So if I learn it, I want to pass it along pretty much in case I can whatever I'm learning, I want to pass it along if I can my community, but I don't have one yet.
1:28:24
SPEAKER_02: So maybe something about a little bit to me is it'd be better to continue to grow.
1:28:29
unknown: Right.
1:28:30
SPEAKER_02: Doesn't matter.
1:28:30
SPEAKER_02: Your mind, your brain should continue to grow.
1:28:32
SPEAKER_02: That's part of the reading.
1:28:33
SPEAKER_02: I I didn't start reading again until um how else the morning.
1:28:39
SPEAKER_02: And like now I'm like reading Kim Stabo working civilization, by the way.
1:28:43
SPEAKER_02: And then I'm reading um This is made simple.
1:28:46
SPEAKER_02: I forget the gentleman's name, but it's pretty good.
1:28:49
SPEAKER_02: And I read obviously like on and listening to Audible's YouTube picture books, uh, Read That Frog.
1:28:56
SPEAKER_02: I mean, there's so many books.
1:28:57
SPEAKER_02: I think I'm dying more and more into that.
1:29:00
SPEAKER_02: So not sorry, long tangent.
1:29:02
SPEAKER_02: Um third one, I don't know.
1:29:04
SPEAKER_02: I think I thought about that one, but I I think I think I think one of the ones of self-improvement.
1:29:10
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, um if you just continue to take care of yourself.
1:29:16
SPEAKER_00: Maybe the maybe the third one would be that aliens are real.
1:29:21
SPEAKER_02: I might be an alien myself, I have no problem.
1:29:24
SPEAKER_00: That's that's a dog.
1:29:26
SPEAKER_00: That's a thought.
1:29:27
SPEAKER_02: I mean, I mean, I mean I'm being shocked and be like, hey, that's awesome.
1:29:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:29:32
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:29:33
SPEAKER_00: Um the second question is what is it?
1:29:42
SPEAKER_00: One second.
1:29:46
SPEAKER_00: What are your three truths?
1:29:49
SPEAKER_00: Three truths.
1:29:53
SPEAKER_02: I actually don't know what what do you mean by truths?
1:29:55
SPEAKER_00: Like I believe it's referring to what are I guess maybe uh maybe your three principles, your three morals, your three things that you have to stick to to be tech.
1:30:11
SPEAKER_02: Oh start with integrity.
1:30:18
SPEAKER_02: Um your name doesn't matter if you're not, you know, Grant Cardone, Peace Morvey, or you know, the president Donald Trump and all that other stuff, or if you're not celebrity, your name carries weight, so we should have integrity.
1:30:33
SPEAKER_02: It's for your fanny's name.
1:30:37
SPEAKER_02: Think about that because there's a lot of stuff going on in that are cheaper renting and money and stuff like shitting because uh good name was a lot of um deep people right.
1:30:50
SPEAKER_02: Basically, it's a lot of wild same lines that I I want to make sure I take care of whoever I'm working with.
1:30:55
SPEAKER_02: It's a partner, uh same thing on this call.
1:30:58
SPEAKER_02: Um we take this map Tony and what do you say you're gonna do?
1:31:05
SPEAKER_02: I think at the end of the day, it's not about you, it's about others.
1:31:11
SPEAKER_02: We are in this world to for a little bit.
1:31:14
SPEAKER_02: I mean, think about it, I don't know how long most people live, but like science wasn't 70s, but yeah, 70s maybe early 80s, like help other people out.
1:31:25
SPEAKER_02: I mean, when you're a kid, you don't you can, but then you get if in adulthood, you're gonna you know, uh teenagers, uh you're of use, yeah.
1:31:35
SPEAKER_02: Be good to your community, uh help people out, and I think again, like we're just gonna be able to you.
1:31:44
SPEAKER_02: That's the best currency.
1:31:45
SPEAKER_02: Like, I I feel so good when I connect with my friends and other people together, they make a deal.
1:31:50
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, oh my god, let's get that something done.
1:31:53
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it helps.
1:31:54
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I don't need to get paid, it's emotional energy, emotional um income.
1:32:00
unknown: Right.
1:32:00
SPEAKER_00: That's what we feel good to me.
1:32:03
SPEAKER_00: I was talking to someone about that before, and we were talking about how helping others, I think, can sometimes be selfish, you know, if you're doing it for yourself, but you're doing it for them, so it's self with you know, it's it's I guess not selfish, but mutually beneficial.
1:32:20
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'm the only one.
1:32:22
SPEAKER_02: You should.
1:32:23
SPEAKER_02: I mean, obviously your time's valuable, but I don't know.
1:32:27
SPEAKER_02: That's just how I was brought up.
1:32:30
SPEAKER_02: You know, uh, I'm the older child, so I was always helping my brother.
1:32:33
SPEAKER_02: Like even now, like I was last week, like there's like I need J help teaching this tennis class.
1:32:38
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, okay.
1:32:39
SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's all money last resort.
1:32:41
SPEAKER_02: I hope for it'd be it'd be stuck and would mean some help, and you probably he knows how busy I am.
1:32:46
SPEAKER_02: Um I schedule around.
1:32:48
SPEAKER_02: So are you a tennis guy?
1:32:52
SPEAKER_02: I used to teach tennis a long time ago.
1:32:54
SPEAKER_00: Oh, okay, okay.
1:32:55
SPEAKER_00: So you like tennis, so it's not something I enjoy it.
1:32:57
SPEAKER_00: I don't really taste much.
1:32:58
SPEAKER_00: A little bit of a vacation in.
1:33:00
SPEAKER_02: What's that?
1:33:01
SPEAKER_00: I said it was probably a little bit of a vacation, a little bit of a stress reliever.
1:33:06
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean it's exercise.
1:33:07
SPEAKER_02: It's it's fine.
1:33:08
SPEAKER_02: It was more of a job as I was doing it.
1:33:09
SPEAKER_02: Um, I enjoyed it when I was a kid growing up, and then when it became a job, I enjoyed passing on knowledge.
1:33:16
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, same thing we're doing now and other other groups and real estate and stuff like that.
1:33:20
SPEAKER_02: But I enjoyed what I knew in tennis, passing on the people that did not know.
1:33:24
SPEAKER_02: I'm not saying I was professional or anything like that, but people that just wanted to learn the game.
1:33:29
SPEAKER_02: I want to pass on as much knowledge and see them get better.
1:33:32
SPEAKER_02: I think it's just a general nature of Hawaii, and I feel like I'm a nationally born coach.
1:33:37
SPEAKER_00: So I like that.
1:33:40
SPEAKER_00: I think it's yeah, so it's very blessing.
1:33:43
SPEAKER_00: I think it's really powerful to be able to coach.
1:33:46
SPEAKER_00: And I've actually heard people say the best way to learn is to coach.
1:33:52
SPEAKER_00: In a way, digital which kind of seems weird because how can you coach if you don't know what you're coaching, but yeah, you know, it's you have to know it, and so you're you're gonna have to learn it on the front end, and then by coaching and you're learning even more.
1:34:05
SPEAKER_02: So yeah, I mean, you all the stuff I've learned, I just passed it along to other people that ask because like I might be one step ahead of you.
1:34:14
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:34:14
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's kind of like school if you think about it, or even in sports, when you're in school, uh you know, I'm in third grade or whatever they're teaching there.
1:34:22
SPEAKER_02: Say they're teaching subtraction.
1:34:24
SPEAKER_02: I didn't know I don't know subtraction, I can just go to a fourth grader.
1:34:27
SPEAKER_02: Well, maybe somebody that just learned it like last week that's in another classroom or something like that.
1:34:34
SPEAKER_02: They just happened to teach it earlier, they understand it, they can pass along to me.
1:34:37
SPEAKER_02: Right, but it's the same thing also, like my niece and nephews.
1:34:40
SPEAKER_02: Like my niece is older, teaches my nephew certain things.
1:34:45
SPEAKER_02: We just help each other out.
1:34:47
SPEAKER_02: I I don't know.
1:34:48
SPEAKER_02: I I think every family does that for the most part.
1:34:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and that that's all it really takes is one step ahead.
1:34:55
SPEAKER_00: Like, I mean, there's mentors that you know aren't really super accomplished, but they're one step ahead.
1:35:01
SPEAKER_00: You know, obviously Payce Morby, Grant Cardo, and all that, and they're lots of steps ahead.
1:35:06
SPEAKER_00: But yeah, they're good, they're great um people to look up to and to learn from.
1:35:13
SPEAKER_00: Um, great coaches.
1:35:15
SPEAKER_00: The last question before we wrap it up is what are three things you cannot live without?
1:35:22
SPEAKER_02: Obviously, the ones would be the oxygen air and stuff like that, but um, three things I couldn't live without.
1:35:28
SPEAKER_02: I think I could not live without people, like friends, right?
1:35:33
SPEAKER_02: I think we all need that.
1:35:34
SPEAKER_02: Uh being lonely, that's ethical.
1:35:37
SPEAKER_02: Very bad thing.
1:35:38
SPEAKER_02: Um, I was thinking about this.
1:35:42
SPEAKER_02: If I was Tom Hanks in that stupid movie, that stupid movie, sorry.
1:35:45
SPEAKER_02: Tom Hanks in that castaway movie.
1:35:48
unknown: Right.
1:35:48
SPEAKER_02: That stupid, like ball or whatever he had, that was his friend.
1:35:52
SPEAKER_02: I would blow my brains.
1:35:54
SPEAKER_02: So I could see how he's like crazy.
1:35:56
SPEAKER_02: Um and talking to fish all the time, and I don't know what I would do.
1:36:00
SPEAKER_02: I think I need that inner what's mean meaning the interaction with other people.
1:36:04
SPEAKER_02: That's why I like going with other people.
1:36:05
SPEAKER_02: I like to work with a team.
1:36:07
SPEAKER_02: I like seeing my friends win, like seeing obviously when I when my friends went out with, that's how I see it.
1:36:12
SPEAKER_02: So uh definitely so community or of friends, um other needs.
1:36:19
SPEAKER_02: I mean physical needs, I think like I can take care of that myself.
1:36:23
SPEAKER_02: Like um obviously you need a fiend, but then I I don't know, I I think I need I need goals.
1:36:31
SPEAKER_02: I need something like to strive for.
1:36:34
SPEAKER_02: As an entrepreneur, my goals keep changing.
1:36:37
SPEAKER_02: And I write down my goals every year at the end of using around like the Christmas break to New Year's.
1:36:43
SPEAKER_02: I take the downtime, like, okay, what am I setting up for next year?
1:36:46
SPEAKER_02: And this challenges all the time, so I have to adapt to.
1:36:48
SPEAKER_02: So I'm thinking about coming up this year.
1:36:50
SPEAKER_02: I might have to do it every quarter.
1:36:53
SPEAKER_02: But I want to, like we were talking about earlier, like have like a uh someone actually one of my sub tea friends was like, what's your one-year, what's your like, you know, end of year goal?
1:37:02
SPEAKER_02: What's your one-year goal?
1:37:03
SPEAKER_02: What's your five-year goal for your stuff?
1:37:06
SPEAKER_02: And it's always monetary, and I'm like, no any means, like my one of my passions to be honest, and I'll pinch your verses.
1:37:14
SPEAKER_02: I have these friends that are not financially stable.
1:37:18
SPEAKER_01: Right.
1:37:18
SPEAKER_02: I'm a little bit better than they are, and I'm like, I want to help.
1:37:22
SPEAKER_02: I don't know, said nate thing because I love these people and then different people, not a couple or just they don't even know each other, but and they don't even know this.
1:37:33
SPEAKER_02: Like I literally want to get them out of their day-to-day job because they told me like it's so stressful and I have all the things.
1:37:40
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, how do I get to a level where I can basically be like you don't need to work again?
1:37:46
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:37:47
SPEAKER_02: I got me I I will take care of the buttons at the same time, one of these guys, and I'm sorry, one of them guys was girl.
1:37:56
SPEAKER_02: This one guy doesn't want to do it for himself.
1:38:00
SPEAKER_02: Like somewhere in there, we can't change people's minds.
1:38:03
SPEAKER_02: You can't help them.
1:38:03
SPEAKER_02: You can lead them to water, you can't make them drink right.
1:38:08
SPEAKER_02: I tried over six months to help this guy out, and I can only do so much.
1:38:14
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:38:14
SPEAKER_02: And if you fight me, I don't have the energy to give you sometimes.
1:38:19
SPEAKER_02: But what in the back of my mind does I'm just gonna prove it and do it, and then I'm gonna save him later.
1:38:27
SPEAKER_02: I'll just come back.
1:38:29
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you're you you're in that you're in the pool with sharks.
1:38:31
SPEAKER_02: Don't worry, survive, I will come back and get you.
1:38:34
unknown: Right.
1:38:35
SPEAKER_02: That's just kind of like how I'm thinking about it.
1:38:37
SPEAKER_02: See, yeah.
1:38:39
SPEAKER_00: In order to be helped, you must want the help, you must be willing to accept the help at some point.
1:38:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, and people want different spots in their life, right?
1:38:47
SPEAKER_02: You know, um, different stressors and there's other things.
1:38:50
SPEAKER_02: I won't get into it, but just knowing, you know, a good friend of mine, and he's got other things on his plate, and I'm like, I want to help you out, but seems as you don't want to get help, and I've tried, but yeah, again, it's could be a bunch of different factors.
1:39:04
SPEAKER_02: Uh outside factors that have him could be me telling him something he's already to hear.
1:39:09
SPEAKER_02: Because you have to be like you have to be open to taking the some criticism too.
1:39:15
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:39:16
SPEAKER_02: I'm like, this is what I think we should do, but does he want to take my advice?
1:39:22
SPEAKER_00: Especially maybe from someone you said this was a high school friend or childhood friend.
1:39:26
SPEAKER_02: It's a it's a long time friend, yeah.
1:39:27
SPEAKER_00: So, you know, especially from with someone that you grew up with, someone that was your age, like someone that you see as an equal, but they have been more successful than you, and it just maybe you have to you have to have drop the ego a little bit to be able to be willing to hear and accept and understand that they're truly trying to help you.
1:39:49
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think you have to be open to taking some a little bit of criticism, but also be open to adapting.
1:39:55
SPEAKER_02: Like I I'm a person of like when I said earlier, should continue to grow, which is to me in essence adapting.
1:40:03
SPEAKER_02: Because I if I tell you and you tell me, like, hey, you know, chop the wood, do it this way, and you keep doing that way, but I want to do my own way, and I find it the needs better, even though you might be like suspicion, who's saying you're right and who say I'm wrong?
1:40:17
SPEAKER_02: Right.
1:40:17
SPEAKER_02: You know, and it gets done, it gets done.
1:40:20
SPEAKER_02: But and again, I I can't help people that can't get helped.
1:40:25
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, but in my nature, I know I'm gonna come back.
1:40:29
SPEAKER_00: Right.
1:40:30
SPEAKER_02: Um, and the one thing I I also learned recently, I was reading a business simple book was I don't like competition usually, but I'm actually doing better with that.
1:40:40
SPEAKER_02: Like, uh, well, it's things I I write down some things now, it's like do the hard thing.
1:40:46
SPEAKER_02: So whatever the hard thing is, take care of that, and the rest of your day becomes super easy.
1:40:51
SPEAKER_02: I actually someone told me this, and it's like whatever the hardest thing you have to do today, if you accomplish that first and get it out of the way, the rest of the day becomes so easy, like being like, oh my god, but it's even a bad conversation to have.
1:41:03
SPEAKER_02: Is it you know whatever?
1:41:06
SPEAKER_02: You know, it's it's a paper you have to write, whatever the case may be, in your in your day, uh attack that attack that hard problem, difficult issue, and then again, rest of your day becomes at least.
1:41:18
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's like wow, I just took care of that, like nothing's gonna affect me the rest of the day.
1:41:22
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
1:41:24
SPEAKER_00: Because then instead of I mean also having anxiety all day about that one thing that's already off your mind, you know, whether whatever the outcome was, and you can just look forward to the rest of your day.
1:41:34
SPEAKER_00: That might even be some enjoyable stuff, you know.
1:41:35
SPEAKER_00: Obviously, there's gonna be some stuff that's like, yeah, I have to do it, but you know, can't you can't really get away from it, but it's it's not the one thing that you were dreading.
1:41:45
SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
1:41:48
SPEAKER_02: Because you're also over stressing the art for whatever next day or three, four whole weekend, you never know.
1:41:54
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
1:41:56
SPEAKER_00: Well, that is the end of our show.
1:41:59
SPEAKER_00: Um, I appreciate your time, tech.
1:42:00
SPEAKER_00: It's been a great conversation.
1:42:02
SPEAKER_00: We've had some some uh some tech technology.
1:42:07
SPEAKER_00: A little bit more on words there, tech tech issues.
1:42:10
SPEAKER_00: Uh, I think that's might become a new nickname for you.
1:42:12
SPEAKER_00: Tech the I don't know.
1:42:15
SPEAKER_02: Something unique with that exact call tech sport, it's definitely not me because I have no idea how to fix this stuff.
1:42:20
SPEAKER_02: I don't playing around with the uh I don't know how to get it for work, but I'm glad we got it gonna dunk.
1:42:25
SPEAKER_00: So I don't know.
1:42:25
SPEAKER_00: Maybe maybe we gotta we gotta um what is it?
1:42:31
SPEAKER_00: I can't even we gotta we gotta protest against against StreamYard and be like, hey man, what's up?
1:42:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I wasn't playing, yeah.
1:42:40
SPEAKER_02: Trying to try to record and hop on, you wouldn't let us hop on, but yeah, maybe your version is saying something different at the time.
1:42:46
SPEAKER_02: People want us to get together so we're gonna be.
1:42:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but I think um this has been a very valuable show, both to myself and to the audience.
1:42:55
SPEAKER_00: So I again I appreciate you being here.
1:42:57
SPEAKER_02: I appreciate it for having me.
1:42:59
SPEAKER_02: Thanks, Tony.
1:43:00
SPEAKER_00: Yep, have a good one.
1:43:01
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1:43:02
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1:43:04
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1:43:10
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1:43:16
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1:43:18
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1:43:19
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