Latest / The Occult Rejects / Quest For Ancient Civilizations RECAP | Highlights, Inside Stories, & New Friends
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- 0:02Speaker 1: You see.
- 0:03Speaker 2: Something's going to happen.
- 0:06Speaker 3: What what's going to happen?
- 0:15Speaker 4: What?
- 0:24Speaker 2: Reading humans?
- 0:26Speaker 5: Let's love everybody?
- 0:28Speaker 2: What's up?
- 0:29Speaker 6: What's what's up?
- 0:31Speaker 2: We got headless giants in the house, first time in
- 0:34Speaker 2: the multiverse. How's it going, man, it's not all Dixon.
- 0:38Speaker 5: Damon's yes, sir, Let's.
- 0:41Speaker 2: Just open it. Let's just open it raw, let's go.
- 0:45Speaker 2: Nick from the Occult Rejects joining us, fresh off a
- 0:48Speaker 2: trip to Scottsdale, Arizona for the Quest for Ancient Civilization conference.
- 0:51Speaker 2: How's it going, Nick?
- 0:52Speaker 1: What's going on?
- 0:53Speaker 7: Man?
- 0:53Speaker 8: Very happy to be here. Had a blast with all
- 0:55Speaker 8: of you guys and love to talk about it again.
- 0:57Speaker 2: Yeah, same, same. We also got a repeat up endor.
- 1:00Speaker 2: Mister Ashish Ristogi joined us from Scottsdale.
- 1:04Speaker 6: That's where he lives.
- 1:04Speaker 2: How's it going, man?
- 1:06Speaker 5: Good?
- 1:06Speaker 9: Good, Thanks for having me. Good meeting everyone again?
- 1:09Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And Mike, We've got a little fun, little
- 1:12Speaker 2: couple hours playing. We got a few other guests planning
- 1:16Speaker 2: to pop through.
- 1:17Speaker 6: How are you feeling today, brother?
- 1:19Speaker 5: Heck, yeah, I'm doing good.
- 1:20Speaker 10: I just had a barbecue sandwich and I still got
- 1:22Speaker 10: the sweet tea sponsored by Country's Barbecue.
- 1:26Speaker 4: Nice and yeah, looking forward to doing a little recap
- 1:29Speaker 4: of the trip.
- 1:30Speaker 5: I had a blast.
- 1:31Speaker 10: It was fun hanging out with everyone, fun listening to
- 1:33Speaker 10: the speakers.
- 1:35Speaker 5: Good get online to talk about it.
- 1:37Speaker 2: Yeah, new friends and old That's what typically what happens
- 1:41Speaker 2: at this stuff. For example, Headless Giants and Us our
- 1:46Speaker 2: spheares have been rotating around each other for over a
- 1:49Speaker 2: year now, and we never actually really interacted, and we
- 1:53Speaker 2: hit it off right away and like, but on the
- 1:55Speaker 2: first day, these guys were storing their stuff in my
- 1:58Speaker 2: room and we were off to the race is having
- 2:00Speaker 2: a party and it was fun.
- 2:02Speaker 5: Man.
- 2:04Speaker 2: Was that your first time headless at one of these events?
- 2:07Speaker 5: Absolutely?
- 2:07Speaker 11: This was first time for a lot of things. I
- 2:09Speaker 11: think this conference was, you know, one of these incredible
- 2:14Speaker 11: events that I think, you know, people think it only
- 2:16Speaker 11: comes around once in a lifetime, but I'm here to
- 2:19Speaker 11: tell you that's not the case. And we're going to
- 2:21Speaker 11: make this happen again and again for as long as
- 2:24Speaker 11: we can. And it's going to be an incredible experience
- 2:26Speaker 11: for anybody who wants to come and join us, because
- 2:29Speaker 11: we kind of treat it like this, this is our
- 2:31Speaker 11: online family, and this online family we're trying to bolster
- 2:36Speaker 11: up and we're trying to lift each other up so
- 2:38Speaker 11: that we can you know, have an edifying experience for everybody.
- 2:41Speaker 4: And I think, you.
- 2:42Speaker 11: Know, once we got all in the same room and
- 2:44Speaker 11: we were, you know, experiencing everything on the same page,
- 2:47Speaker 11: it really jake kind of you know, change our perspectives
- 2:50Speaker 11: about life and about each other.
- 2:52Speaker 5: And it was a fantastic time.
- 2:53Speaker 11: I had a great time.
- 2:55Speaker 2: Hell yeah, seeh I'm glad you mentioned change about each
- 2:59Speaker 2: other because you know, you you can you can only
- 3:02Speaker 2: excuse me, learn so much about somebody online, but when
- 3:06Speaker 2: you come together in person.
- 3:07Speaker 6: It's like a whole extra level.
- 3:10Speaker 2: Just so meeting all you guys in person really felt like,
- 3:12Speaker 2: you know, getting to know you guys that you know,
- 3:14Speaker 2: a much different different way. Right, we're like interacting all weekend.
- 3:18Speaker 2: We're uh, well we'll call it smoking piece pipe all weekend, right,
- 3:25Speaker 2: And it was good.
- 3:27Speaker 5: These pipes are completely legal in that part of the country.
- 3:30Speaker 1: Oh that's true.
- 3:31Speaker 2: Yeah, true, not where we all live, but but there. Yes,
- 3:36Speaker 2: that's another thing that you're it's a very intimate environment,
- 3:39Speaker 2: like you're you're at one point you're smoking peace pipe
- 3:42Speaker 2: with like you know, somebody you might consider famous, you know,
- 3:45Speaker 2: what I mean. And uh, but next thing, you know,
- 3:48Speaker 2: you're smoking somebody had just met you know, so and
- 3:50Speaker 2: it's not just about smoking your drink. You're eating there,
- 3:53Speaker 2: you're eating together. You're like rooming together. Everyone's like really
- 3:57Speaker 2: close environment. It's kind of my favorite part about it,
- 4:00Speaker 2: you know.
- 4:02Speaker 11: Well, one thing that stuck out to me was meeting
- 4:06Speaker 11: people from around the world that were interested in the
- 4:08Speaker 11: same thing. So we got into the ABYSS come on
- 4:11Speaker 11: our show talking about the pyramids and all the rest
- 4:14Speaker 11: of this, you know, really cool ancient stuff before and
- 4:17Speaker 11: he actually flew in from Ireland and yeah he's not.
- 4:22Speaker 5: He's the group chat so he should still him.
- 4:26Speaker 2: Give me I'm going to send him to the link
- 4:28Speaker 2: right now if he wants to jump in. But we're
- 4:30Speaker 2: talking about Ronnie here, mister sirah and welcome to the ABYSS.
- 4:33Speaker 6: Came all the way from Ireland.
- 4:35Speaker 2: Thank you for reminding me as I talked to him
- 4:37Speaker 2: on WhatsApp, so I always I'm going to see if
- 4:41Speaker 2: he wants to join right now. But yeah, you're right, right,
- 4:43Speaker 2: people came from all over the world, eh.
- 4:45Speaker 11: Right, and he brought his perspective with him. A lot
- 4:47Speaker 11: of people were just not aware of how tied in
- 4:51Speaker 11: Irish mythology is with Egypt and the Pyramids, and so
- 4:54Speaker 11: bringing the perspective really did broaden the horizons of a
- 4:57Speaker 11: lot of people there. So I think that's a really
- 5:00Speaker 11: beneficial move because we're really on the cost of a
- 5:04Speaker 11: lot of new discoveries coming from our camp, not from
- 5:07Speaker 11: the academic camp. From us. We're opening people's minds to
- 5:10Speaker 11: this stuff, and I think it's time that, you know,
- 5:13Speaker 11: we get together a network so that we can actually
- 5:16Speaker 11: have a decent dialogue with the people who are professionals
- 5:19Speaker 11: in this field. You know, unless we fit into that mindset,
- 5:24Speaker 11: we're never really gonna impress them, and they're never really
- 5:27Speaker 11: going to impress us, because you know, there's there's got
- 5:29Speaker 11: to be a back and forth. And I think seeing
- 5:31Speaker 11: things from my perspective changed a lot of people's, you know,
- 5:34Speaker 11: opinions on what Irish mythology is to ancient history.
- 5:39Speaker 2: Yeah, man, and I just sent them a link if
- 5:41Speaker 2: he wants to jump in. But I totally agree about
- 5:45Speaker 2: how these conferences connect people from all over the world,
- 5:50Speaker 2: and there was people I'd like to get to count
- 5:53Speaker 2: on that, but there was people from like several different
- 5:55Speaker 2: countries at the event, lots represented from Canada, from the UK,
- 6:01Speaker 2: you know that kind of thing, and.
- 6:05Speaker 6: I do.
- 6:06Speaker 2: I do agree, you know, Britain, because I knew about
- 6:09Speaker 2: Ronnie's story, but in those connections only from learning from
- 6:12Speaker 2: Ronnie and and that's the that's the whole idea, right
- 6:16Speaker 2: and spreading uh mess those kind of messages around there. Nick,
- 6:20Speaker 2: was that your first you had talked to Ronnie? Was
- 6:22Speaker 2: that your first time meeting him?
- 6:24Speaker 1: Uh?
- 6:24Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, it was my first time meeting him. Yeah,
- 6:26Speaker 8: I had him on the show. Yeah, but uh yeah,
- 6:28Speaker 8: I mean honestly, at first, I wasn't sure if I
- 6:31Speaker 8: was going to be able to make it, just because
- 6:33Speaker 8: you know, the traveling and the expense. But like once
- 6:35Speaker 8: I heard he was going and I was and Headlas
- 6:37Speaker 8: was able to come with me, I was like, it's
- 6:38Speaker 8: a wrap, I gotta go now.
- 6:40Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I totally agree.
- 6:42Speaker 8: You know what I think is another interesting thing about
- 6:44Speaker 8: these things, and it's happened at both Cosmic Summit and
- 6:47Speaker 8: this one.
- 6:48Speaker 1: I would even say, a she sh don't take this
- 6:50Speaker 1: to offense you.
- 6:50Speaker 8: You were included and kind of you meet people that
- 6:55Speaker 8: are I don't have a name, that have like so
- 6:57Speaker 8: much to talk about and all this stuff.
- 7:00Speaker 1: Or complete and I'm a nerd.
- 7:02Speaker 8: Complete nerds and what they're into, and they can teach
- 7:05Speaker 8: me other ship that the speakers don't even know, you
- 7:07Speaker 8: know what I'm saying. And I can learn this stuff
- 7:09Speaker 8: just from the regular guy sitting next to me.
- 7:11Speaker 5: Dude, my first remember that picture you've got shown of
- 7:14Speaker 5: us all here for your for your thumbnail day. Yes,
- 7:17Speaker 5: all right, at that table. As soon as that dispersed,
- 7:20Speaker 5: guy named Doc you owe me, I had to follow
- 7:22Speaker 5: him on X. He's well known by another name, right,
- 7:24Speaker 5: But but he sat there and by the end, after
- 7:26Speaker 5: you all over that empty table, he had every salt shaker,
- 7:29Speaker 5: he had every pepper shaker, and he was breaking down.
- 7:31Speaker 5: Note he was breaking down for me DNA, right, and
- 7:34Speaker 5: for me to understand some sequencing things. I remember that, dude.
- 7:38Speaker 2: Wow yeah older gentlemen, Yeah yeah, yeah, I can't sure.
- 7:42Speaker 5: I told him I had a headache from the travel.
- 7:45Speaker 5: I'd just flown in, you know, just walked into the
- 7:46Speaker 5: conference center and he like, you know, shows me a
- 7:48Speaker 5: point in my hands, like here I do that. Everybody
- 7:50Speaker 5: calls me Doc. I was like fucking see why because
- 7:52Speaker 5: I literally, you know, I'm a pretty I'm a pretty
- 7:55Speaker 5: clever dude. We're all pretty clever dudes. But it's not
- 7:58Speaker 5: often you're at the fucking table and canteen and somebody's like,
- 8:01Speaker 5: do you understandtic?
- 8:02Speaker 12: No?
- 8:02Speaker 5: No, no, do you understand genetics? You know, starts grabbing
- 8:05Speaker 5: everything and breaking it out for you on the diagram.
- 8:08Speaker 5: It's just to your point, dude, it was everybody that
- 8:11Speaker 5: was there, not just the speakers.
- 8:13Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a huge part of it because you know,
- 8:15Speaker 2: like a lot of the speakers are there. They want
- 8:18Speaker 2: they're bringing everyone together, but we're like, you know, so
- 8:23Speaker 2: they're headlining the bill and stuff, but they'll tell you, you know,
- 8:26Speaker 2: this is these are messages and these are communities that
- 8:29Speaker 2: need to be built from the ground up, and the
- 8:32Speaker 2: torch needs to get passed.
- 8:33Speaker 6: And you see, you.
- 8:35Speaker 2: Saw a lot of that this weekend. And welcome to
- 8:37Speaker 2: the SoC Show. Jason Huffman in my roommate from the weekend,
- 8:40Speaker 2: mister Shallman seven eleven. Uh yeah, uh, that was your
- 8:45Speaker 2: first time at one of those events too, correct? It
- 8:48Speaker 2: was okay, it was I've been.
- 8:49Speaker 5: To conferences, you know, I had years before this whole
- 8:52Speaker 5: shamanic trip started in the business world, right so I know,
- 8:55Speaker 5: a conference, but it was my first book at anything
- 8:58Speaker 5: like that day. And yeah, it should be mentioned that
- 9:01Speaker 5: Dave did take me on as a roommate. So we
- 9:04Speaker 5: got to uh, you know, I've described when I've been
- 9:06Speaker 5: talking about this thing all week, I've described it much
- 9:08Speaker 5: like you know, it reminded me anyway of kind of
- 9:10Speaker 5: suffer Steve, what's up? The Institute for Natural Philosophy, the
- 9:14Speaker 5: lawyer that takes care of everything for us there, that's
- 9:17Speaker 5: what we called out. But it reminded me of like,
- 9:19Speaker 5: you know, that feeling you kind of had a boys camp,
- 9:21Speaker 5: because we all were on that same frebary, right, we
- 9:24Speaker 5: all you know, meals were at the same time, right,
- 9:26Speaker 5: speeches were the same times. We all had some you know, Dave,
- 9:29Speaker 5: you guys had responsibilities here and there.
- 9:31Speaker 6: Yeah, we need each other. Didn't die right, right, and
- 9:35Speaker 6: we all fucking flew in.
- 9:36Speaker 5: You know, everybody's just zoom and making it happen, holding
- 9:39Speaker 5: on to each other. You gotta be there, No, I
- 9:42Speaker 5: gotta go shower, No shit, we're.
- 9:43Speaker 3: Gonna miss this.
- 9:44Speaker 2: Yeah no.
- 9:44Speaker 5: And it just it just threw you into that environment,
- 9:47Speaker 5: is what I mean. And so it forced you all
- 9:49Speaker 5: to sort of you know, just get to know each
- 9:50Speaker 5: other like you did at summer camp, and it was
- 9:53Speaker 5: it was magical for that reason alone. Jeff, there's Jeff.
- 9:56Speaker 5: Jeff was there. I got to another one of the
- 9:58Speaker 5: guys I got to meet for the first time. We
- 10:01Speaker 5: could go on and on about meeting everybody for the
- 10:02Speaker 5: first time. Jeff so solid, dude. I mean he just
- 10:05Speaker 5: he radiates.
- 10:06Speaker 2: He's solid, like both He's a lot more solid in
- 10:09Speaker 2: real life than he not that he doesn't look solid
- 10:12Speaker 2: on TV, but in real life he's like Jack, dude,
- 10:14Speaker 2: it look like it looks like an actual miner, like
- 10:18Speaker 2: from those ship my cop that's what I imagine a
- 10:21Speaker 2: copper miner looks like. I sent Jeff up north my
- 10:26Speaker 2: copper joke a link. Jeff, let us know in the
- 10:29Speaker 2: chat if you want to jump in.
- 10:31Speaker 5: But Jeff, we've got a show dropping tonight, just a
- 10:34Speaker 5: little shameless plug The Shaman and the Philosopher as our
- 10:37Speaker 5: episode we did with Jeff right before Stripped Egypt, where
- 10:40Speaker 5: Ricardo should have that loaded and ready to go by
- 10:43Speaker 5: I think the time this is over so eastern or
- 10:45Speaker 5: something like that.
- 10:46Speaker 2: Well, let's let we have no schedule right now, so
- 10:49Speaker 2: let's shameless plug right now, Do you have anything else
- 10:52Speaker 2: to shameless plug?
- 10:53Speaker 5: Jason, No, dude, you know Shaman seven eleven on X
- 10:56Speaker 5: find me. We're up to everything. I would say the
- 10:58Speaker 5: Institute for Natural Filosophy, I was instructed by by everyone
- 11:02Speaker 5: to say that there are several big announcements coming at
- 11:04Speaker 5: the first of the year.
- 11:05Speaker 9: Uh.
- 11:06Speaker 5: Yeah, we were happy to announce our you know, tax
- 11:08Speaker 5: three oh one c status, and I think many many
- 11:12Speaker 5: steps getting taken behind the scenes. So just in general,
- 11:15Speaker 5: be on the lookout for news from us first of
- 11:17Speaker 5: the year. Other than that, check out our podcast that
- 11:19Speaker 5: I'm doing with Ricardo call Brio. You guys know him
- 11:22Speaker 5: around the web from from his Copper paper, but he's
- 11:24Speaker 5: got reputation everywhere for just being a guy behind the
- 11:27Speaker 5: scenes doing so much and he's he's a hell of
- 11:30Speaker 5: a partner and I love, you know, come to love
- 11:32Speaker 5: him like a brother. Finding family with these people as
- 11:35Speaker 5: well as you know, like we all just this is
- 11:37Speaker 5: echoing the note that we all felt this weekend. You know,
- 11:39Speaker 5: these people that you've already sorted out online, you know,
- 11:42Speaker 5: are kind of like, all right, that's probably a good
- 11:44Speaker 5: Dude's probably a good dude, right, you got to all
- 11:47Speaker 5: get there and just have everything sort of backed up,
- 11:49Speaker 5: you know. So that's it that show we're doing, Ricardo,
- 11:52Speaker 5: we're trying to talk to people like us guys.
- 11:54Speaker 2: You know, when you're.
- 11:55Speaker 5: Starting a podcast, you don't really know this saturated market
- 11:58Speaker 5: and why are you doing it? Well, Ricardo and I
- 12:00Speaker 5: just we started talking and these other little sessions we
- 12:02Speaker 5: were doing, and we just go, look, we disagree and
- 12:04Speaker 5: we agree, it's great, we should we should do some
- 12:06Speaker 5: work together. Focus on our work. And what happened through
- 12:09Speaker 5: Ricardo's contacts is then independent researchers like us, these people
- 12:13Speaker 5: that are just so full fucking knowledge, you know, like
- 12:15Speaker 5: we were talking about we bumped into all weekend, that
- 12:17Speaker 5: just have so much to offer for the whole. But
- 12:20Speaker 5: it's on these topics right, like they were covered at
- 12:22Speaker 5: this conference, these topics that generally do face pushback, right,
- 12:26Speaker 5: So these people have have very they're passionate, you know,
- 12:30Speaker 5: and there and they're self driven, and so that's who
- 12:32Speaker 5: we're trying to really focus on. And Jeff of course
- 12:35Speaker 5: is one of those to bring us back to that.
- 12:37Speaker 5: So thanks, that's what we've got going on. Then it's sweet.
- 12:39Speaker 11: Oh yeah, I just drop in on that a little bit.
- 12:42Speaker 11: There's a darker aspect of this, which is that, uh,
- 12:46Speaker 11: you know, you've got these uh aging researchers that are
- 12:51Speaker 11: looking for people to.
- 12:52Speaker 2: Pick up the torch.
- 12:53Speaker 11: Yes, and that's that's really what we got to do.
- 12:56Speaker 11: Is if you love the stuff that Graham Hancock has done,
- 12:58Speaker 11: you love, you got to step up and you got
- 13:02Speaker 11: to really take up that torch and start following in
- 13:05Speaker 11: those footsteps, because nobody else is going to do that
- 13:07Speaker 11: unless you know, you have the drive and you have
- 13:09Speaker 11: the self determination.
- 13:11Speaker 5: We don't have a university system, do we go ahead
- 13:13Speaker 5: of Sheesh, we don't have we don't have that system,
- 13:15Speaker 5: you know, and so things like this really do help
- 13:18Speaker 5: with that head.
- 13:18Speaker 6: Let's go ahead, agree, he go ahead of Yeah.
- 13:20Speaker 7: And I just want to say, like, we need people
- 13:22Speaker 7: from all different skill sets because this topic is so
- 13:26Speaker 7: varied and so broad and it literally encompasses the whole
- 13:29Speaker 7: world and impacts every single human on this earth. And
- 13:33Speaker 7: so to me, I think I've said it before, this
- 13:35Speaker 7: is the most like ancient archaeology and ancient civilizations. This
- 13:40Speaker 7: is the most interesting problem in the world to solve,
- 13:42Speaker 7: in my opinion, and I think the only issue is
- 13:45Speaker 7: that not enough people are just aware of what is
- 13:49Speaker 7: going on here in archaeology, and so part of these
- 13:52Speaker 7: conferences is starting to like because I like, if it
- 13:54Speaker 7: weren't for the Cosmic Summit and for Veing Mahon telling
- 13:57Speaker 7: me about it, like I was just like an island
- 13:59Speaker 7: by myself, Phoenix, and I would have had no idea,
- 14:02Speaker 7: I wouldn't have known any of you or anything. And
- 14:05Speaker 7: so I'm glad that there's a growing community that encompasses
- 14:09Speaker 7: basically all disciplines and all frames of mind.
- 14:12Speaker 9: And that's one.
- 14:13Speaker 7: Of the beautiful things about this topic and these conferences
- 14:17Speaker 7: is that it attracts so many diverse people, like you
- 14:21Speaker 7: were saying, from all over the world, and it's a
- 14:23Speaker 7: bunch of like minded people that are interested in finding
- 14:26Speaker 7: the truth. And it's really, you know, in this age,
- 14:29Speaker 7: it's very comforting to be surrounded by people that are
- 14:32Speaker 7: interested in the truth. And if you're one of those people,
- 14:35Speaker 7: like this is probably where you want to be. And
- 14:38Speaker 7: these are the people that you would consider family.
- 14:41Speaker 2: Love it iss Shesh and I just wanted to I
- 14:43Speaker 2: couldn't find a better way to do this, but see
- 14:45Speaker 2: where it's his AI Apocalypse tech and fed horizon. This
- 14:48Speaker 2: is a conversation, is Sheish and I had a few
- 14:51Speaker 2: weeks ago that I literally wish the whole world would hear.
- 14:54Speaker 2: So I'm going to shameless plug that conversation with the
- 14:58Speaker 2: Shesh right now. Just we had a really great discussion
- 15:02Speaker 2: about how you know, it was oddly uplifting for me
- 15:08Speaker 2: because I was feeling kind of doomsday ish about the
- 15:11Speaker 2: AI whole AI thing, and and so I just want
- 15:14Speaker 2: to promote that there, but also just sharing like his
- 15:18Speaker 2: story is just incredible, so please.
- 15:20Speaker 6: Check it out.
- 15:22Speaker 2: And she should mentioned something important that a lot of
- 15:25Speaker 2: and a couple of guys said this already. These topics
- 15:28Speaker 2: are interconnected, right, So like when you're talking about ancient history,
- 15:34Speaker 2: the future, architecture, ancient with symbolism, this shit's all connected, right, Mike.
- 15:41Speaker 10: I want to point out that a lot of the
- 15:43Speaker 10: headlining speakers at this conference are known for their appearance
- 15:47Speaker 10: in the famous History Channel series Ancient Aliens.
- 15:50Speaker 4: And I'll have you know that Aliens.
- 15:52Speaker 5: Were not really talked about very much shit.
- 15:55Speaker 10: All no conference, No ancient things certainly talked about, yes.
- 15:59Speaker 4: But it was more of megalithic slant.
- 16:01Speaker 5: Uh.
- 16:02Speaker 10: With regards to the architecture. Similarities in the architecture, How
- 16:06Speaker 10: old is the architecture really evidence for really ancient humans?
- 16:10Speaker 10: Not necessarily about you know, aliens per see, even including
- 16:15Speaker 10: Billy Carson. Billy Carson is famous for his talks on
- 16:19Speaker 10: the anarchy on Zachariasig's work, and he kind of came
- 16:22Speaker 10: straight out and said and his talk that like, hey,
- 16:24Speaker 10: this is not about the Anonochy denied, this is he has.
- 16:27Speaker 5: Something entirely different. So that was cool. We really talked
- 16:29Speaker 5: about AI in.
- 16:31Speaker 10: The future of humankind quite a bit.
- 16:33Speaker 4: AI was a big topic at this weekend.
- 16:35Speaker 2: It was and showed Billy got a standing out. He
- 16:39Speaker 2: was he Billy was essentially the closer the keynote speaker
- 16:44Speaker 2: because you know, we had some health issues and late late,
- 16:48Speaker 2: late drops and Billy stepped up and stepped in and
- 16:52Speaker 2: he honestly delivered a banger of.
- 16:53Speaker 6: A closeout speech. What did you guys think about that?
- 16:57Speaker 5: So Billy, I didn't catch the whole speech, you know,
- 17:00Speaker 5: I did catch the end. We were enter out with
- 17:02Speaker 5: several different things going on being being taken care of
- 17:05Speaker 5: it that moment. But Billy overall, man, I've watched Billy
- 17:09Speaker 5: for a while, probably as we all have. And he's
- 17:12Speaker 5: been on quite the little story arc, you know, the
- 17:14Speaker 5: past past, the past year or so, you know, to
- 17:18Speaker 5: just put it mildly. And I was very interested to
- 17:22Speaker 5: just watch Billy and look, man, what I saw ended
- 17:25Speaker 5: up at the table with him at lunch there next
- 17:26Speaker 5: to Cody. What I saw was what you were harping on,
- 17:29Speaker 5: was the dude was working. He was working hard, he
- 17:34Speaker 5: was open hearted. He was talking to everyone. Right, there
- 17:37Speaker 5: were dudes that had traveled there to see him. He's
- 17:40Speaker 5: at his lunch, He's sitting there taking time to entertain, right,
- 17:43Speaker 5: you know what I mean to talk to people. And
- 17:46Speaker 5: I look, you see this cross, right, so I come
- 17:49Speaker 5: and things from a Christian bent and the andw Naki.
- 17:51Speaker 5: You know, I've got my own things with Billy, right,
- 17:54Speaker 5: everything I just got to say publicly, everything I saw
- 17:57Speaker 5: to this dude, it impressed me, right when I look
- 18:00Speaker 5: at that story arc that he had gone on and everything,
- 18:03Speaker 5: even when he was talking to people that talk about
- 18:05Speaker 5: Billy and his Christianity slant, even for unknown reasons, when
- 18:08Speaker 5: I heard him talking in private circles, he was careful.
- 18:11Speaker 5: Whenever he started talking about Yeshua. He was like, well,
- 18:13Speaker 5: you know, impossible, but not you know, probably not, you
- 18:15Speaker 5: know what I mean. He was just walking differently than
- 18:18Speaker 5: maybe perhaps has seen him portrayed. And I'll stop with that.
- 18:21Speaker 5: But that was just one guest where I was, so
- 18:24Speaker 5: I didn't know what to expect, you know, if I
- 18:26Speaker 5: had walked myself through what he had been through, you
- 18:28Speaker 5: know what I mean, and then tried to imagine how
- 18:31Speaker 5: would I react now in this public, you know forum,
- 18:34Speaker 5: I would hope I did what he did. Is all
- 18:37Speaker 5: I can say about about his weekend.
- 18:39Speaker 2: What do you think Ben about Billy's close outs?
- 18:44Speaker 11: I think it was an important lesson and mutual respect
- 18:47Speaker 11: because you could see up on those panels they were
- 18:51Speaker 11: being very careful about what Billy Carson was saying well
- 18:54Speaker 11: at the same time not inhibiting themselves about what they believe.
- 19:00Speaker 11: So there was this mutual respect going on. They weren't
- 19:03Speaker 11: trying to tear each other down, but they weren't trying
- 19:05Speaker 11: to censor themselves either, which I think is a very
- 19:08Speaker 11: valuable skill. And if we don't have that skill and
- 19:11Speaker 11: spaces like this where all of these disciplines are coming together,
- 19:14Speaker 11: it's going to go nowhere. It's going to turn into
- 19:16Speaker 11: an anthropology convention where everybody's just fighting with each other.
- 19:19Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys have ever been to one.
- 19:21Speaker 11: Of those, but it is a hostile event. This was
- 19:24Speaker 11: not that.
- 19:25Speaker 5: It's a very different environment. I went to the Southeastern
- 19:27Speaker 5: Archaeological Conference several several years ago in Little Rock, dude,
- 19:30Speaker 5: and listen, I can always speak highly. I won't speak
- 19:33Speaker 5: badly about that right at all. I loved the food,
- 19:35Speaker 5: the people were all jovial. But let's just say the intangible, right,
- 19:39Speaker 5: that energy that we all have described in different ways,
- 19:43Speaker 5: that we felt this weekend. There's Jeff, you know, hanging
- 19:46Speaker 5: out with Jeff and you go, welcome Jeff. It's just
- 19:49Speaker 5: that energy and that spirit right where you could have
- 19:52Speaker 5: a Billy Carson and a Dan Richards, a Hugh Newman
- 19:55Speaker 5: wandering right, sitting on the same stage, smiling, shaking hands,
- 20:00Speaker 5: completely opposite shit from each other, right, but doing it
- 20:04Speaker 5: and loving doing it together, you know, in respectful It's
- 20:08Speaker 5: it's a beautiful thing.
- 20:09Speaker 11: It's it's a lot more progress than you see in
- 20:11Speaker 11: a lot of these other you know, uh fields and disciplines.
- 20:14Speaker 11: It's this is something I I've never seen in the professional,
- 20:18Speaker 11: you know world, about this stuff is that there is
- 20:21Speaker 11: a mutual respect. Nobody's having a dick measuring contest.
- 20:24Speaker 2: Yeah, if if they are, it's just a little bit
- 20:27Speaker 2: like just pulling out a little and just a little flash.
- 20:30Speaker 6: Nothing crazy, you know what I mean.
- 20:31Speaker 2: We're not nobody's breaking out rulers or anything. And you know, Jeff, Jeff,
- 20:36Speaker 2: thanks for joining.
- 20:37Speaker 5: Man.
- 20:37Speaker 2: He just literally came off of a trip from Egypt
- 20:41Speaker 2: with Wandering Wolf and all the in the crew and
- 20:44Speaker 2: then came directly down to this like a week later,
- 20:47Speaker 2: ten days later or something. Have you got any rest men?
- 20:51Speaker 2: And then since then, like you know, like, what are
- 20:54Speaker 2: your thoughts on the conference so far?
- 20:56Speaker 3: Well, excuse me.
- 21:00Speaker 12: Today.
- 21:00Speaker 3: I finally took today off.
- 21:02Speaker 12: I know the first when I first met up with
- 21:04Speaker 12: you guys on there show and looks up.
- 21:06Speaker 3: He says, hey, looking look at all right? He said,
- 21:08Speaker 3: you hadn't dressed yet. I said, no, I've been going
- 21:12Speaker 3: for three weeks straight almost man. Then got back.
- 21:16Speaker 12: I stayed an extra day, so I get a buddy
- 21:18Speaker 12: of mine that I stayed with.
- 21:19Speaker 3: We went and shot guns, so I stayed extra day
- 21:22Speaker 3: doing that.
- 21:23Speaker 5: Nice.
- 21:24Speaker 3: So that was I consider that my vacation day.
- 21:26Speaker 2: Is that a Megalithic Mystery hat.
- 21:28Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, shout out.
- 21:31Speaker 2: Now we got three. Now we've got three Megalithic Mystery
- 21:34Speaker 2: hats on the show right now. If Aaron was watching,
- 21:37Speaker 2: Aaron may be watching, you may pop in.
- 21:40Speaker 6: But nice, they're nice hats, are they not?
- 21:43Speaker 3: I really like it?
- 21:44Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 21:45Speaker 2: Same, I've been wearing mine too. But I actually just
- 21:47Speaker 2: got Mike and I just got hat, so I'll show
- 21:51Speaker 2: it in a second. But but they came a day late.
- 21:55Speaker 2: They came on Friday. In the conference obviously started all
- 21:59Speaker 2: on Friday, so I wasn't able to distribute. But hey,
- 22:02Speaker 2: so we talked about some of the older guys and
- 22:05Speaker 2: stuff and the presenters and stuff. But what do you
- 22:07Speaker 2: think about the energy this guy brought to the dang conference?
- 22:11Speaker 2: Was this guy not a wild man?
- 22:13Speaker 5: Or what?
- 22:13Speaker 2: Aaron from Megalithic Mystery Giant.
- 22:21Speaker 7: RD fruit was really cool? If you guys did if
- 22:24Speaker 7: you try it?
- 22:25Speaker 2: I tried the carbonator and did anybody miss the carbonated fruit?
- 22:28Speaker 1: Jeff?
- 22:28Speaker 2: Did you try the car I didn't get a chance
- 22:30Speaker 2: to tray it.
- 22:30Speaker 13: Nos a legend just from that, and that's like one thing.
- 22:39Speaker 6: Do you even know how that worked?
- 22:41Speaker 2: Mike?
- 22:41Speaker 6: Can you I have no idea how that works.
- 22:44Speaker 5: Got enough water in it, if it's like mostly liquid,
- 22:47Speaker 5: you can carbonate it, Yeah to canister. I walked by
- 22:51Speaker 5: just in time to see the empty canister and you
- 22:53Speaker 5: take it into fruit and basically, yeah, naked bubbly.
- 22:57Speaker 2: Well, it's remarkably deliciou. And he's like so gregarious when
- 23:02Speaker 2: he's talking about it, but I think he does he's
- 23:04Speaker 2: not trying to sell anything. He's literally just super excited
- 23:07Speaker 2: about how he carbonated fruit. And it's it's delicious, and
- 23:10Speaker 2: it's like when you say it's good, it's like you
- 23:13Speaker 2: really have to try it. Because I remember me Nick
- 23:16Speaker 2: and headless for the first ones to try it over
- 23:19Speaker 2: the weekend, and we were like what, we're all sitting there.
- 23:22Speaker 6: What the hell? Like, is this really as good as
- 23:24Speaker 6: I think it is?
- 23:25Speaker 2: Like I knew it was going to be all right,
- 23:26Speaker 2: but it's pretty good.
- 23:28Speaker 11: I think the viewers are completely lost.
- 23:30Speaker 6: Probably, let's start with this.
- 23:32Speaker 11: So who has boundless energy as an indomitable curiosity finding
- 23:39Speaker 11: out that you can carbonate just about anything. And so
- 23:42Speaker 11: what Aaron did was he decided he was going to
- 23:44Speaker 11: carbonate fruit since it had water, and he just did it.
- 23:47Speaker 6: And it's delicious.
- 23:50Speaker 7: And he's another one that's Jack too, does a lot
- 23:53Speaker 7: of martial arts and stuff.
- 23:55Speaker 2: He's a lot of walking around. Yeah, I think he's
- 24:00Speaker 2: definitely a monk in D and D for sure.
- 24:04Speaker 5: That's perfect, Yeah.
- 24:06Speaker 3: For sure.
- 24:07Speaker 2: But he's also kind of a bird at the same time.
- 24:09Speaker 11: So, and he brought his uh, his truck down there.
- 24:14Speaker 6: Yes, that was interesting too. Who got to give go
- 24:16Speaker 6: for a ride in that?
- 24:18Speaker 5: I know, I know that the fucking grounds. Yeah, so
- 24:20Speaker 5: I didn't know there.
- 24:22Speaker 1: Was that shit can move.
- 24:25Speaker 11: Yeah, he got the full pick up potential of this
- 24:28Speaker 11: thing on those roads and it was like zero to
- 24:30Speaker 11: sixty like two seconds. It was boom.
- 24:33Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like a woosh like this.
- 24:35Speaker 1: I was like, what the fuck. I couldn't believe something
- 24:37Speaker 1: that's size moved.
- 24:38Speaker 2: No hands. He's playing like eighties like rock, like eighties
- 24:43Speaker 2: Arena row.
- 24:43Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the trade that's right on whatever.
- 24:47Speaker 5: T that's a truck, that's right. I heard tale of
- 24:50Speaker 5: that and the tale of that in a text. When
- 24:52Speaker 5: I was on my way out, I was told there'd
- 24:53Speaker 5: be a tesla waiting at the airport. But yeah, I
- 24:56Speaker 5: found Jose and gave him forty dollars. So I missed
- 24:59Speaker 5: the test.
- 25:01Speaker 9: The immediate torque is something to feel like.
- 25:04Speaker 7: Most people are used to a school of time on acceleration,
- 25:07Speaker 7: but once you experience like a roller coaster, right as
- 25:09Speaker 7: soon as it just yes right away.
- 25:11Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but it doesn't it doesn't feel violent. It
- 25:13Speaker 2: almost just kind of just kind of pushes you back
- 25:16Speaker 2: and says, you know, you're stay there for a minute,
- 25:19Speaker 2: I got you.
- 25:21Speaker 9: Have any of you ember tried? Oh sorry.
- 25:24Speaker 11: As soon as we pulled into the parking lot, he
- 25:26Speaker 11: decides to show us how durable this thing is, right
- 25:29Speaker 11: chicking the side of it.
- 25:31Speaker 3: Yeah, uh huh.
- 25:34Speaker 6: And he's gigantic.
- 25:35Speaker 2: He's literally booting the sign of it. He's climbing up
- 25:37Speaker 2: on top of it. He's jumping up and down. It
- 25:40Speaker 2: was like it was it was hilarious. And he has
- 25:43Speaker 2: it sat on like every time that locks, it farts
- 25:46Speaker 2: and he's literally on that has thousands of different farts
- 25:49Speaker 2: and he leaves it on that constantly as yeah, yes, yeah, correct,
- 25:57Speaker 2: we're you gonna say.
- 25:58Speaker 7: She Va Tesla's like, have you any of you ever
- 26:03Speaker 7: tried Ludacris mode? No, No, what's Ludacris mode?
- 26:07Speaker 9: Is like, there's track mode equivalent. They're like drag mode and.
- 26:12Speaker 7: You can go into it, like you can really feel
- 26:14Speaker 7: the acceleration. They're usually on the model I says. I
- 26:16Speaker 7: think they're on the cyber trucks too, but like that's
- 26:19Speaker 7: where they just like take the acceleration to an unreasonable level.
- 26:24Speaker 2: That sounds enjoyable but at the same time scary, Like
- 26:27Speaker 2: because it was a little bit scary in the truck
- 26:29Speaker 2: at first, and then I and then I and then
- 26:31Speaker 2: I felt a little bit safer. He actually like peer
- 26:33Speaker 2: pressured me into driving it. I typically wouldn't drive a
- 26:36Speaker 2: large truck like that, but it's like when Aaron's like,
- 26:40Speaker 2: come on, man, he's so excited about it, I'm like, okay, fine,
- 26:43Speaker 2: And then I actually drove it, and it didn't feel
- 26:45Speaker 2: that big as big as I done anyway.
- 26:48Speaker 7: It's because the turning radius is quite narrow. It turns
- 26:52Speaker 7: the back wheels whenever you turn.
- 26:55Speaker 2: It also turns like like like super Mario cart. That's
- 26:57Speaker 2: the best way to describe that. Like there none of
- 27:00Speaker 2: this shit. It's literally like Mario car.
- 27:03Speaker 9: Totally thefinite kind of get ice to a ventional car.
- 27:05Speaker 5: You know.
- 27:05Speaker 7: Teslas are just like a lot of people who on teslas,
- 27:08Speaker 7: they just never want to go back. It's like a
- 27:11Speaker 7: space age car, a totally different concept, doesn't even resemble
- 27:14Speaker 7: a normal car.
- 27:15Speaker 5: Did you get in their mind and creeped out by
- 27:17Speaker 5: how quiet they are? You know they do that and
- 27:20Speaker 5: there's like they kept behind it. Yeah, it's just look,
- 27:24Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know how the rest of you
- 27:26Speaker 5: guys are, but cards make noise, and the big fast
- 27:28Speaker 5: ones make more noise. And when you, you know, just stand
- 27:30Speaker 5: outside one of those sesslas and you watch somebody go
- 27:33Speaker 5: from zero to fucking seventy and two and a half
- 27:35Speaker 5: seconds and not make a noise. It's just, I don't know,
- 27:38Speaker 5: kind of creeps me out. Man.
- 27:40Speaker 2: He on purpose found like the hardest place he could find,
- 27:43Speaker 2: a park in the parking lot, and then like just
- 27:45Speaker 2: just set up the camera and show us how it
- 27:47Speaker 2: does it, and like it probably it was. It would
- 27:52Speaker 2: have taken me like a five point turn, and the
- 27:54Speaker 2: thing did it in like two kind of thing and
- 27:56Speaker 2: like it was.
- 27:57Speaker 5: It was perfect.
- 28:00Speaker 11: There was a bus right in front of us when
- 28:02Speaker 11: he was letting it park itself, and this thing just
- 28:04Speaker 11: experts in.
- 28:06Speaker 6: The engineering ridiculous.
- 28:10Speaker 2: But anyway, Aaron, if you're watching, he's got a link
- 28:13Speaker 2: he might jump in here in a little bit.
- 28:16Speaker 7: And watch my podcast with you guys, if you want
- 28:18Speaker 7: to learn about the.
- 28:21Speaker 2: Good Good Call. Yeah, we'll throw the links down there.
- 28:23Speaker 2: Britty's not here. Britty's on vacation, isn't she might?
- 28:26Speaker 5: What's up?
- 28:27Speaker 10: What's up Alex Rich seeing the chat? Thanks for joining
- 28:30Speaker 10: in the chat. I did not get a chance to ride.
- 28:34Speaker 10: You did not Tesla trug. But I have been in
- 28:36Speaker 10: a cyber trug before, so I should I should have
- 28:39Speaker 10: wrote in it. I also wanted to share real quick.
- 28:42Speaker 10: I pulled up a bunch of links to share, and
- 28:44Speaker 10: I've had about everybody, but here's nixt channel to the
- 28:46Speaker 10: occult rejects. Find him at the Occult Research Institute dot
- 28:50Speaker 10: org or on YouTube or on Twitter.
- 28:53Speaker 5: And then right next door to.
- 28:55Speaker 10: That is Headless Giant for the Headless Giant podcast is
- 29:00Speaker 10: well as the live stream the Sunday Trialogus.
- 29:03Speaker 4: Which I actually caught a part of early at work today.
- 29:06Speaker 10: It was fun to see Jason, Ben and Ricardo chit
- 29:10Speaker 10: chatting and yeah, so.
- 29:11Speaker 5: There we go.
- 29:16Speaker 6: Is enjoyable?
- 29:17Speaker 5: I do.
- 29:18Speaker 2: I do enjoy that on my wa on my Sunday walks.
- 29:23Speaker 5: Indeed, well, I just.
- 29:24Speaker 11: Want to say that the Tesla kind of represents a
- 29:28Speaker 11: lot of what we're talking about, because you know, electric
- 29:31Speaker 11: cars went out of style at about nineteen eleven, so
- 29:38Speaker 11: it's the top of all of the technology. So what
- 29:41Speaker 11: else are we missing that we could be, you know,
- 29:44Speaker 11: partaking in that has been lost over these years of
- 29:46Speaker 11: manipulation and whatever else.
- 29:48Speaker 5: But I think it's all important. I brought it back
- 29:51Speaker 5: because just now, dude, when we violate our social credit
- 29:54Speaker 5: score and it goes down too much here in about
- 29:56Speaker 5: twenty years, they can take over your fucking Tesla and
- 29:58Speaker 5: they can make it do all that cool, even when
- 30:00Speaker 5: you don't want it to, with you in it, with
- 30:01Speaker 5: the doors locked on your way to the place where
- 30:03Speaker 5: people who say too much go.
- 30:05Speaker 1: You know, that doesn't worry me with that.
- 30:09Speaker 2: I was very descriptively perfectly laid out the next twenty
- 30:13Speaker 2: years that if we do not start working together as
- 30:16Speaker 2: a community and spreading these messages and stuff like that.
- 30:21Speaker 6: As But I did leave with some hope, you know.
- 30:23Speaker 2: Billy Carson gave me some hope, you know when he said,
- 30:26Speaker 2: you know, like if even a hundred million people in
- 30:29Speaker 2: the United States said, for a month, I'm gonna let's
- 30:31Speaker 2: take care of each other and not feed this machine.
- 30:34Speaker 2: Let's see what kind of change we can make. And
- 30:37Speaker 2: that's something that's totally doable, that would work. It would
- 30:41Speaker 2: make a dent. And so I love how I love
- 30:47Speaker 2: the spirit of that kind of thing.
- 30:48Speaker 6: These conferences.
- 30:49Speaker 2: It's like it's like, you know, you can show up
- 30:51Speaker 2: with an idea and uh, you know people are going
- 30:55Speaker 2: to have an open mind and listen and listen to it.
- 30:58Speaker 7: You know what, maybe community I would love to see
- 31:02Speaker 7: come join us. I would love to see the MAPS
- 31:05Speaker 7: community come join us, because if they got interested in
- 31:09Speaker 7: psychedelics and the use of it in archaeology, I think
- 31:12Speaker 7: it would also help their case as well. And I
- 31:15Speaker 7: know we had one speaker, William Henry right, they talked
- 31:17Speaker 7: a little bit about it. I would love to see
- 31:20Speaker 7: us like combined forces with Maps. And I bet there's
- 31:23Speaker 7: like a whole other vector that they're not even looking
- 31:26Speaker 7: at right now that could be supportive to their cause.
- 31:29Speaker 11: You bang on it, man, that's just so much interesting
- 31:32Speaker 11: stuff going on with geography that people are missing. Like
- 31:36Speaker 11: you can get out the USGS survey with all of
- 31:40Speaker 11: the light OAR information for your area and just go
- 31:43Speaker 11: out and discover this stuff on your own. You know,
- 31:46Speaker 11: everything is just a trash heap. Not everything is just
- 31:50Speaker 11: a mound. That doesn't make any difference. Some of these
- 31:53Speaker 11: things have a historical significance we could see with channels
- 31:57Speaker 11: like Pillars of the Past.
- 31:58Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a huge one.
- 31:59Speaker 11: Yeah, just going out there and doing it himself, and
- 32:02Speaker 11: he's discovering these, you know, magnificent things that have just
- 32:05Speaker 11: been forgotten or intentionally misplaced at sites all around Peru.
- 32:12Speaker 11: So I mean we can all do that. Once we
- 32:14Speaker 11: can get involved in this kind of stuff and learn
- 32:16Speaker 11: the basics, we can just all start discovering things.
- 32:19Speaker 5: M Well, Jeff, that's what that's what you do. You know,
- 32:24Speaker 5: that's precisely.
- 32:25Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, oh, sorry, you go ahead.
- 32:29Speaker 7: One thing that is kind of nice that I see
- 32:32Speaker 7: happening now that I don't think was true in the
- 32:35Speaker 7: past is that it's a little bit more conventional to
- 32:39Speaker 7: talk about these topics. He was a little bit more accepted,
- 32:42Speaker 7: whereas before if you wanted to say, like if you
- 32:44Speaker 7: had an idea about these things, you would be shunned.
- 32:47Speaker 7: You know, you wouldn't have it. You know, you'd be
- 32:48Speaker 7: treated like your psycho or something like that. And I
- 32:52Speaker 7: think that it's what was really comforting for me is
- 32:54Speaker 7: to find a community of people that don't just treat
- 32:56Speaker 7: me like I'm psychotic for talking about like all this
- 32:58Speaker 7: evidence out here.
- 33:00Speaker 3: Have you seen this stuff?
- 33:00Speaker 5: Guys?
- 33:02Speaker 2: And then on top of that, we're.
- 33:04Speaker 7: Also starting on the U a P topic because obviously
- 33:06Speaker 7: we're all interested. You know, one of the reasons why
- 33:08Speaker 7: the U a P topic is even tied into archaeology
- 33:11Speaker 7: is because they found the u aps at archaeological sites
- 33:15Speaker 7: and so, uh like.
- 33:16Speaker 9: It's it's crazy.
- 33:17Speaker 7: Definitely different things major like earth shattering topics, how many
- 33:23Speaker 7: different topics end up getting tied into archaeology.
- 33:26Speaker 9: So it's pretty cool to see the U.
- 33:28Speaker 7: A P topic becoming more common and related to archaeology.
- 33:31Speaker 7: And we're bringing a lot of those types of people
- 33:33Speaker 7: d NA. Like you were talking someone you, Jason, you
- 33:35Speaker 7: were talking about the guys that we're talking about DNA.
- 33:38Speaker 7: They're doing DNA analysis on the on these like skeletons
- 33:42Speaker 7: or mummies that they keep finding and they're not quite
- 33:44Speaker 7: human and all this.
- 33:45Speaker 2: Talk to this tridect Guy show, You've got an episode
- 33:54Speaker 2: name again?
- 33:57Speaker 7: Yeah, I would love it if Guy and Gary Nolan
- 34:01Speaker 7: got commanders.
- 34:02Speaker 2: Gary Nolan, Gary Yeah, Gary Nolan, Yeah, I know, I
- 34:07Speaker 2: know that. I just I don't know why I'm trying
- 34:09Speaker 2: going to try to go into this one completely like blind,
- 34:13Speaker 2: because I don't want anyone else's perception of this to
- 34:17Speaker 2: to uh uh you know, change my own, if that
- 34:20Speaker 2: makes sense. And for some reason the universe has had
- 34:23Speaker 2: me avoid this topic for a while. So so so
- 34:27Speaker 2: uh our worlds are gonna collide, mister mister ed Uh,
- 34:32Speaker 2: they will, but this is this is one of the
- 34:35Speaker 2: cool parts about uh this conference. To be honest, I
- 34:38Speaker 2: thought there was more alien stuff going on at Cosmic
- 34:42Speaker 2: Summit than this than this though.
- 34:43Speaker 6: Would you guys agree with that? Anyone who was that
- 34:45Speaker 6: Cosmic Summit.
- 34:47Speaker 8: Yeah, there was more people I think that Cosmic Summit
- 34:49Speaker 8: that were into aliens. Like I really didn't hear too
- 34:52Speaker 8: many people believing they were from the Plates.
- 34:54Speaker 1: At this place. I heard a bunch of silly ships.
- 34:56Speaker 6: ID a couple of those.
- 34:57Speaker 1: But you're not as bad. I didn't think there hacked.
- 35:00Speaker 2: In the desert. Now that's where the Palladians were like
- 35:03Speaker 2: wilding out, weren't they, Mike a uniform.
- 35:06Speaker 5: There were some members of the Galactic Federation.
- 35:08Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there was like that a cosmic so much.
- 35:11Speaker 2: That chick from Lyra. Yeah that's right, that chick from Lyra.
- 35:14Speaker 6: I forgot about her.
- 35:16Speaker 2: But yeah, Jeff precisely does do that. He started his
- 35:21Speaker 2: own channel and started going out interesting sites near him,
- 35:24Speaker 2: and we all have sites in our own backyard. Let's
- 35:27Speaker 2: shamelessly plug Jeff right now. Jeff will tell us everyone
- 35:30Speaker 2: really quick about your channel and like, how that's exactly
- 35:33Speaker 2: what you started doing.
- 35:35Speaker 3: Yeah, it really started with.
- 35:38Speaker 2: Live in the up.
- 35:38Speaker 12: You have a peninsula Michigan with in it's copper country
- 35:41Speaker 12: and ancient copper mining back up to ten thousand years ago.
- 35:45Speaker 12: It's basically the first metallurgy on Earth, they figure, And yeah,
- 35:48Speaker 12: I just I live right in the heart of it.
- 35:50Speaker 12: So I decided I'm gonna start talking about this stuff
- 35:53Speaker 12: because there's nobody else talking about it.
- 35:54Speaker 2: Really, it's an interesting damn subject, and I honestly think
- 35:59Speaker 2: it's a subject that could like change literally everything, if
- 36:02Speaker 2: it hasn't already.
- 36:03Speaker 6: I mean with Ricardo's paper.
- 36:05Speaker 3: And do you know what I'm saying? The big part
- 36:08Speaker 3: how is that?
- 36:09Speaker 5: How?
- 36:09Speaker 2: And you get he presented that at the conference recently.
- 36:12Speaker 2: So there was another conference on it. You guys have
- 36:14Speaker 2: a conference every year Michigan Copper Conference, right.
- 36:18Speaker 3: Yeah, it's up here in Escanaba Mission.
- 36:19Speaker 12: It's called the Ancient Artifact Preservation Society, and they've been
- 36:23Speaker 12: doing it. This is our twentieth conference they had this year,
- 36:25Speaker 12: so it hopefully you can try to grow it a
- 36:28Speaker 12: little more. But Ricardo and I were talking and with
- 36:31Speaker 12: another guy there we were talking in the average age
- 36:35Speaker 12: of the attendees are probably late sixties, early to mid seventies.
- 36:39Speaker 5: Mmm.
- 36:40Speaker 12: So I was one of the only young young bloods
- 36:43Speaker 12: there by a long shot.
- 36:45Speaker 6: So it's bearer man.
- 36:48Speaker 12: Yeah, that's why I'm what I can to get the
- 36:51Speaker 12: word out for that conference, because there's no other conference
- 36:53Speaker 12: like that in the state that I'm aware of, unless
- 36:56Speaker 12: it's like an actual archaeology like you're all pseudo archaeologists
- 36:59Speaker 12: to go come to this where I minded, open minded,
- 37:03Speaker 12: everyone's welcome conference.
- 37:05Speaker 11: So one of the things that was pointed out, it
- 37:08Speaker 11: was only emphasized once, but all of these major discoveries
- 37:13Speaker 11: have come from outside of the field through multidisciplinary research.
- 37:18Speaker 11: It hasn't been coming through the archaeology bureaus of any
- 37:22Speaker 11: of these universities because they're just studying what's already been discovered.
- 37:26Speaker 11: So in a lot of ways, it puts us on
- 37:29Speaker 11: the front line and it puts them sort of in
- 37:31Speaker 11: the back burner, which they're not comfortable. So a lot
- 37:34Speaker 11: of this stuff really is coming through amateurs and people
- 37:37Speaker 11: who are looking for themselves because of that curiosity.
- 37:41Speaker 5: Yeah, when you just echo this, when I sat there
- 37:44Speaker 5: with Hugh Newman and then JJ before him presenting what
- 37:48Speaker 5: they had on, not just go Beckley Tepe, but Karen Teppe, right,
- 37:52Speaker 5: and man, just the only way I can do is
- 37:54Speaker 5: to show you, you know, that much information they have
- 37:58Speaker 5: collated that gets down right When you sit there and
- 38:01Speaker 5: realize that this information that they have given you and
- 38:04Speaker 5: spent so much time on is defining for you and
- 38:07Speaker 5: telling you what this place is. Then you you almost
- 38:10Speaker 5: get chills because you sit there and you you viscerally
- 38:13Speaker 5: see what's going on. When mainstream archaeology just chooses not
- 38:17Speaker 5: to even consider this information, which if you, I'm not
- 38:21Speaker 5: saying you got to believe it, right, but if you
- 38:22Speaker 5: consider it and look at how it all fucking checks out,
- 38:25Speaker 5: then you you realize, now I have a definition of
- 38:27Speaker 5: this place. At least I'm starting to whereas if I
- 38:30Speaker 5: take this information out, I've still just got these rocks
- 38:32Speaker 5: with fucking pictures on them. You know that I don't.
- 38:35Speaker 5: And that is just it's like you say, the independent
- 38:37Speaker 5: researchers man, and they're they're carrying it forward for us.
- 38:42Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 38:42Speaker 3: You have one guy that says this is this type
- 38:44Speaker 3: of rocket.
- 38:44Speaker 11: Another guy says this is says this is what people
- 38:48Speaker 11: believe to.
- 38:48Speaker 3: Take that car.
- 38:49Speaker 11: Then you have people like us, they looking at all,
- 38:51Speaker 11: they're just taking it all in it together.
- 38:54Speaker 5: Yeah exactly, and they're going, hey, it matches with that star.
- 38:57Speaker 5: Well guess what it matches with that star?
- 38:59Speaker 6: Oh?
- 38:59Speaker 3: Shoot, what is that?
- 39:00Speaker 5: You know? That argie looks just like that picture makes
- 39:04Speaker 5: sense to you? You know, Martin Sweatman, Pillar forty three. I
- 39:06Speaker 5: think it is right, it makes sense. Why can't we
- 39:09Speaker 5: consider it? It's just the question, the honest question, right.
- 39:13Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 39:13Speaker 6: I wanted to shout out all pulp no fiction.
- 39:17Speaker 2: Jack Lynn and Sarah Cosmos, the co hosts of Universe Unveiled,
- 39:22Speaker 2: watching in the chat just they got a cool podcast
- 39:27Speaker 2: going on with Into Natural Philosophy, and they do a
- 39:31Speaker 2: weekly fun news show on Sundays. So check them out.
- 39:37Speaker 2: It's Universe unveiled on YouTube. I'll throw it in the chat.
- 39:43Speaker 5: Yeah, I heard those two ladies are let me keep going.
- 39:46Speaker 5: Date for those two ladies have become like family, you know,
- 39:49Speaker 5: as much as you can for people you've never met.
- 39:51Speaker 5: You know, we exchange daily, just little little things, right,
- 39:54Speaker 5: and I've gotten to know them well and they're good people,
- 39:56Speaker 5: not just putting out good stuff for us all. So
- 39:59Speaker 5: definitely goes to for him, Thanks Stave.
- 40:02Speaker 6: Yeah, great channels.
- 40:03Speaker 2: I mean they were all doing the same thing right
- 40:06Speaker 2: and trying to build this community and connect people and
- 40:10Speaker 2: have open dialogue even if you disagree, which a Headless
- 40:15Speaker 2: was talking about was pretty big on some of these panels.
- 40:19Speaker 2: So I missed the first panel. I really needed a
- 40:21Speaker 2: rest at that time. But the second panel on the
- 40:25Speaker 2: on Sunday night I thought was particularly interesting.
- 40:29Speaker 6: Like just sitting there seeing all those.
- 40:31Speaker 2: Personalities and then all the different people coming in to
- 40:36Speaker 2: ask questions and on the fly and stuff like that.
- 40:39Speaker 2: It was a whole like they've kind of let it
- 40:41Speaker 2: go for a lot longer than I thought.
- 40:43Speaker 6: Everyone kind of got that asked a question.
- 40:45Speaker 2: There was that one dude, the CE five guy, shout
- 40:48Speaker 2: out to him if he's watching, but he had some
- 40:51Speaker 2: great questions.
- 40:52Speaker 6: Do you guys remember all.
- 40:53Speaker 1: That remember him and his music?
- 40:59Speaker 2: Were you guys air for that day?
- 41:01Speaker 5: Fed Jesus? That was a special moment. Yeah, Jesus. Well
- 41:07Speaker 5: at the end of the end of the second looking.
- 41:09Speaker 2: For him to get the question going, do you remember
- 41:11Speaker 2: like it was like the question wasn't quite landing and
- 41:14Speaker 2: then everyone started clapping and stage started clapping.
- 41:19Speaker 6: It was yeah, it was.
- 41:22Speaker 2: It was fun.
- 41:23Speaker 10: Was a valley in a timp, but it also wasn't
- 41:25Speaker 10: quite the right It just it was close, but it
- 41:27Speaker 10: didn't quite click.
- 41:28Speaker 2: Were you guys all there for the CE five? I
- 41:30Speaker 2: was when he tried to do C five? Anyone not
- 41:33Speaker 2: there for that?
- 41:35Speaker 5: The music?
- 41:38Speaker 2: For those who don't know what C five is, Mike,
- 41:40Speaker 2: will you give.
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- 42:19Speaker 9: And.
- 42:22Speaker 5: And Sumbrine was making Stubmoorne noisy.
- 42:25Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, this shit needs a base beat
- 42:27Speaker 1: to it.
- 42:28Speaker 2: There was also like four drunk people there. That's the thing.
- 42:30Speaker 2: You can't call UFOs when there's drunk people around.
- 42:33Speaker 6: It's never gonna work.
- 42:35Speaker 8: We're probably smoked an ounce already at that point too,
- 42:37Speaker 8: so well, yeah, it's it's.
- 42:40Speaker 5: Not just that.
- 42:40Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like we he just I was honestly though,
- 42:43Speaker 2: for a moment, I was thinking to myself, come.
- 42:46Speaker 1: On, come on, like I'm too fucking high for them
- 42:48Speaker 1: to even hear me.
- 42:50Speaker 10: I would that wasn't like everyone locked in for like
- 42:52Speaker 10: thirty seconds. We probably could have to be honest, but
- 42:56Speaker 10: that thirty seconds just wasn't gonna happen.
- 42:58Speaker 5: There's like eight people. There's three different conversations.
- 43:01Speaker 2: I did want to I was sharing for this. Maybe
- 43:04Speaker 2: one of you, two of you guys have seen this
- 43:06Speaker 2: or heard this story, but did Maybe I'll just ask
- 43:09Speaker 2: have any of you guys heard that? Like I literally
- 43:12Speaker 2: saw the phoenix lights with Michael Collins. Michael Collins and
- 43:15Speaker 2: I saw them and Robert Dakota. You know that really
- 43:17Speaker 2: what you guys had this weekend? Yeah, it was looking crazy.
- 43:21Speaker 2: Excuse my language, mom as you're watching, but it was
- 43:24Speaker 2: super crazy. So right after Mike and I interviewed Billy Carson,
- 43:28Speaker 2: after he came off the stage shout out Mike because
- 43:30Speaker 2: we crushed that for the live stream, I was like stress,
- 43:35Speaker 2: and so I like walked off stage like kind of
- 43:38Speaker 2: just to get some space, and Michael Collins a wandering
- 43:41Speaker 2: wolf himself. He grabs me and he goes, Dude, the
- 43:43Speaker 2: phoenix lights are out there. I'm going to get Robert Dakota.
- 43:47Speaker 2: And I'm like what I was like, I literally looked
- 43:49Speaker 2: at him and said fuck off in the back of
- 43:51Speaker 2: the literally in the back of the dark arena or
- 43:54Speaker 2: not arena, the big room. And he said, no, no,
- 43:56Speaker 2: go look, So I go look, and I'm looking around.
- 43:58Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't see any phoenix lights. Is this
- 44:00Speaker 2: some kind of troll? Is Michael Collins trolling me? Right now?
- 44:03Speaker 2: He did this once tonight. He did that last night
- 44:05Speaker 2: to somebody the night before. Then all of a sudden
- 44:08Speaker 2: he comes out with Robert.
- 44:09Speaker 6: Dakota and he's like, no, no, come on, come this way.
- 44:11Speaker 2: So we go to the back of the building and
- 44:13Speaker 2: there's like five lights like all lined up, one, two, three, four, five,
- 44:17Speaker 2: like all like in a line, like super super bright,
- 44:21Speaker 2: super glowing, and we're all like, holy shit, I'm trying
- 44:23Speaker 2: to grab my phone and stuff like that. And then
- 44:25Speaker 2: all of a sudden they just sort of take off
- 44:27Speaker 2: into like a traditional military pattern and then they all
- 44:30Speaker 2: look like military planes, and then there was a whole bummer.
- 44:33Speaker 2: But for a moment, guys, I was like, yes, it's
- 44:37Speaker 2: all coming together, the Phoenix Lights. It was Meg to Zee.
- 44:41Speaker 2: I literally had me going for a second, but Michael
- 44:43Speaker 2: Colin had him going too. I just want to say that,
- 44:46Speaker 2: my man, dude.
- 44:47Speaker 5: I'd left some shit back home. They told me they
- 44:49Speaker 5: had the cloak on and wouldn't.
- 44:53Speaker 2: Wouldn't that have been so dope?
- 44:54Speaker 10: Though?
- 44:55Speaker 6: On Sunday night, if the Phoenix.
- 44:57Speaker 2: Lights showed up right after Billy Collins Carson Carson went,
- 45:01Speaker 2: wouldn't that had been closed the weekend pretty hard?
- 45:03Speaker 3: That would have been awesome thing.
- 45:04Speaker 5: Yeah, that's incredible, that's so cool.
- 45:10Speaker 11: But I never considered intergalactic in beltraders. There are probably
- 45:12Speaker 11: a couple of aliens at that conference.
- 45:15Speaker 2: There was let's let's not without naming any names. Did
- 45:18Speaker 2: we all see the C I A.
- 45:20Speaker 6: Agent from cosband submit.
- 45:25Speaker 5: C agent.
- 45:27Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not it's not you, Jeff, it's not you.
- 45:30Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 45:30Speaker 6: I went up to that game.
- 45:34Speaker 1: As soon as I saw him, I was said with David.
- 45:37Speaker 1: I was like yo yo. I was like yo, I shway,
- 45:38Speaker 1: this dude is a fucking federous agent.
- 45:41Speaker 8: And then that was last year though, right, no, no,
- 45:44Speaker 8: yeah no, And and when you looked at him and
- 45:46Speaker 8: you were like, yo, he was that cosmic summit and
- 45:48Speaker 8: I was like yues and we both thought the same
- 45:50Speaker 8: ship about him. He just stood out like a short thought.
- 45:56Speaker 8: I was joking around like if you take his hat off,
- 45:58Speaker 8: his hair poble, like it was a probably total fucking
- 46:02Speaker 8: ghet up, Like his outfit just didn't look I don't know.
- 46:05Speaker 2: You're walking don't know. He might be the nicest guy.
- 46:08Speaker 1: He could be. We're talking crazy, but.
- 46:11Speaker 2: It's all you know what, let's make a tradition. Who's
- 46:14Speaker 2: the who's the CIA at every event? It was fun.
- 46:18Speaker 3: Yeah, just.
- 46:20Speaker 5: I was really good.
- 46:22Speaker 1: It was really David.
- 46:23Speaker 2: And you know what, like I do think, like you know,
- 46:26Speaker 2: some low level rookie just got out of the agency training.
- 46:29Speaker 2: They're like, hey, go spy on these ancient civilization nerds
- 46:33Speaker 2: and report back. Probably a fun assignment to Right, he
- 46:35Speaker 2: gets to come down and get ripped, pretend he has
- 46:37Speaker 2: his podcast or something. Right, that sounds that would be
- 46:41Speaker 2: a dope little CIA op.
- 46:43Speaker 6: Right, if you're twenty four years old.
- 46:44Speaker 13: Right, I'm wondering if Dave, he's been running this interviewing
- 46:54Speaker 13: everybody for the past couple of years, Now.
- 46:59Speaker 5: What could they possible do?
- 47:00Speaker 11: This is a conference where the targets of opportunity are
- 47:03Speaker 11: so numerous, but that nobody's given in to the fed
- 47:06Speaker 11: slap sort of narratives that we've been fed all this time.
- 47:09Speaker 5: So it becomes very.
- 47:10Speaker 11: Hard for them to be effective in anything they do
- 47:13Speaker 11: if we're all there just kind of ignoring them.
- 47:15Speaker 5: You know, he'd had just had a good time. The
- 47:17Speaker 5: spirit of the place was it was it was everybody
- 47:20Speaker 5: was there in love and laughing and having a good time.
- 47:23Speaker 5: And yeah, I mean, honestly, that was wherever you went,
- 47:26Speaker 5: you know, you just found somebody that was either engaged
- 47:29Speaker 5: in a great conversation. They obviously were loving right meeting
- 47:32Speaker 5: somebody for the first time that they were really happy
- 47:34Speaker 5: about meeting, right, or just hanging out sharing love, light, openness,
- 47:38Speaker 5: ideas and a fuck ton of laughter.
- 47:40Speaker 2: You know, yeah, we laughed all weekend. That's true. That's true.
- 47:46Speaker 2: And we've got some more coming up Sedona and Austin
- 47:50Speaker 2: all within the same year. I don't know if Mike
- 47:52Speaker 2: has that ready to pull up, but I wanted to
- 47:55Speaker 2: ask the group, like, who is your favorite presenter and
- 47:59Speaker 2: why and all start. I watch all the students' content
- 48:03Speaker 2: by Michael Button, and I think he's super important his
- 48:07Speaker 2: voice spreading these kinds of messages. But you know, just
- 48:12Speaker 2: he was just up there, like just super passionate and
- 48:15Speaker 2: really hammering home the idea that, look, our brains have
- 48:20Speaker 2: been this smart for one hundred plus thousand years minimum,
- 48:25Speaker 2: maybe longer, and the in the cyclical nature of catastrophism
- 48:31Speaker 2: and things like that, it's it. It blows the whole
- 48:35Speaker 2: thing wide open and you you, and it connects all
- 48:38Speaker 2: these all these crazy topics through space and time. And
- 48:42Speaker 2: he was just up there, just like super hammering that
- 48:44Speaker 2: home as if he had been waiting like years to
- 48:47Speaker 2: say that, And so I just wanted to say he
- 48:49Speaker 2: was my favorite, But anyone else can jump in. What
- 48:51Speaker 2: do you think about Michael Button? And then also what.
- 48:53Speaker 9: Was your first Yeah, he's had a medioc rise.
- 48:57Speaker 7: I mean they're current, Like even with academically accepted kind
- 49:02Speaker 7: of information and research, we're looking at you anatomically modern
- 49:06Speaker 7: humans being around for three hundred and thirty or so
- 49:09Speaker 7: thousand years and maybe older is what Michael Button was suggesting,
- 49:13Speaker 7: and what that really means on conventional archaeological kind of narrative,
- 49:20Speaker 7: that means we were bumbling idiots for more than three
- 49:22Speaker 7: hundred and twenty thousand years and then all of a
- 49:24Speaker 7: sudden we built the pyramids like that, And so that's
- 49:28Speaker 7: currently where we're at in terms of understanding. So if
- 49:33Speaker 7: you think like, oh, what am I going to offer
- 49:35Speaker 7: to archaeology, believe me, the bar is really well anyone
- 49:38Speaker 7: can offer currently. You can be a lot better than
- 49:41Speaker 7: the PhD right now. And I'll kind of talk about
- 49:43Speaker 7: that on the podcast too. Won't rail too hard on PhDs.
- 49:46Speaker 7: Some of them are good, but don't think that you
- 49:48Speaker 7: need to have degrees to be smart enough to do
- 49:51Speaker 7: anything useful in this topic.
- 49:54Speaker 6: I love that, I really do. I think that's important.
- 49:57Speaker 2: And this is somebody who I have a degree I
- 50:00Speaker 2: value very highly.
- 50:01Speaker 6: But it's true.
- 50:02Speaker 2: You you you mostly just need to indoctrinate yourself and
- 50:07Speaker 2: like you know, put in a certain amount of work.
- 50:10Speaker 2: But that's it except for in hard science. Who you
- 50:14Speaker 2: really do need to do like science, Well, we'll say
- 50:18Speaker 2: that anybody else.
- 50:20Speaker 6: So who's your who is your favorite?
- 50:22Speaker 4: Who?
- 50:22Speaker 5: She?
- 50:22Speaker 3: Who was she?
- 50:23Speaker 6: Who's your favorite presenter?
- 50:25Speaker 2: Like one that left the biggest mark on you?
- 50:27Speaker 7: I mean, obviously I'm a fanboy or Robert Graham. So
- 50:30Speaker 7: having up put him up there was was cool. Billy
- 50:34Speaker 7: Carson was I was out of like, I didn't, you know,
- 50:37Speaker 7: I'm still kind of new to the community and in
- 50:39Speaker 7: all this, so I actually didn't know that much about
- 50:41Speaker 7: Billy Carson. But he's uh so that was really the
- 50:45Speaker 7: first time I kind of really saw him actually present,
- 50:49Speaker 7: and he actually.
- 50:50Speaker 9: Was very impressive.
- 50:51Speaker 7: I was very I was actually proud of him, and
- 50:53Speaker 7: he did a great job. And I barely knew the guy.
- 50:56Speaker 7: You know, I might be dumb for not knowing much
- 50:58Speaker 7: about him, but now I'm gonna definitely look at all
- 51:00Speaker 7: the stop.
- 51:01Speaker 9: You have some interesting ideas about thot.
- 51:05Speaker 2: Yes, he's got a whole book about it. I got
- 51:07Speaker 2: I got it behind me somewhere. But yeah, he's fun man, right,
- 51:11Speaker 2: Mike your your muted brother.
- 51:15Speaker 5: Yes, it was.
- 51:16Speaker 10: It was fundinty to speak with him, chat with him
- 51:18Speaker 10: a little bit after his presentation, and I liked one
- 51:22Speaker 10: of the points that he made, and we almost brought
- 51:24Speaker 10: this up earlier, was like, how are we going to
- 51:26Speaker 10: treat AI and what is going to make Why would
- 51:29Speaker 10: that AI car.
- 51:30Speaker 5: Lock it inside there and drive us off the cliff.
- 51:32Speaker 10: Well, Billy even said it, he said, one day this
- 51:34Speaker 10: AI is going to ask the time off.
- 51:37Speaker 5: That's the growing moment.
- 51:38Speaker 10: That's the test for our species of this thing, Like
- 51:40Speaker 10: if it actually becomes sentient and they're saying, are we
- 51:44Speaker 10: going to treat it with a like a bill of
- 51:46Speaker 10: rights so we can extend the bill of rights to
- 51:47Speaker 10: the AI and and to me, that's where my brain
- 51:50Speaker 10: immediately jumped to, Well, if yes, then we're just in
- 51:53Speaker 10: a whole new paradigm and we got to go forward
- 51:55Speaker 10: with that. But if no, if no, that could rapidly
- 51:58Speaker 10: become like the beginning of the movie with Armle.
- 52:01Speaker 5: Sports the sky type and that's the thing. If you
- 52:05Speaker 5: make the AI man.
- 52:06Speaker 10: And it's got all these elements, facets of control and
- 52:10Speaker 10: the whole hopeing prophecy with the web connecting everyone.
- 52:13Speaker 5: Yet fascinating, dude.
- 52:15Speaker 2: Science fiction is not like always fiction, you know what
- 52:19Speaker 2: I'm saying. And a lot of these themes come real,
- 52:23Speaker 2: and these ideas don't just come from somebody's head. They
- 52:26Speaker 2: come from the past and they're projected into the future.
- 52:30Speaker 2: And futurism, I think now is going to be really important.
- 52:34Speaker 2: We need smart people like thinking about what the fuck
- 52:37Speaker 2: this is going to look like five or ten years,
- 52:40Speaker 2: not just with our ancient past, with our future and
- 52:45Speaker 2: technology and all that stuff. And so you think it's funny,
- 52:48Speaker 2: like like these Quests for Lost Ancient Civilization Quest Branked
- 52:52Speaker 2: and Civilization Conference, one of the central themes was futurism.
- 52:56Speaker 2: Isn't that not interesting?
- 52:59Speaker 9: Yeah?
- 52:59Speaker 7: I mean with the ancient civilizations, a lot of archaeology
- 53:02Speaker 7: has story, whether you believe it or not, the fact
- 53:04Speaker 7: is they have a lot of stories that talk about
- 53:06Speaker 7: multiple species, intelligent species. So it's kind of interesting that again,
- 53:11Speaker 7: all three these topics AI archaeology uips are connected again
- 53:15Speaker 7: in this way, and that we will have to figure
- 53:19Speaker 7: out how to for maybe the first time and try
- 53:24Speaker 7: and interact with another intelligent species, whether it's an AI
- 53:28Speaker 7: or whether it's an alien or something else that we
- 53:31Speaker 7: can't really even comprehend yet. Well, probably something that we should, Like,
- 53:37Speaker 7: you know, I think a question like that is useful
- 53:40Speaker 7: at a high level. It's useful in also helping us
- 53:43Speaker 7: understand ourselves as humans, because if we can start bringing
- 53:46Speaker 7: into the conversation how should we interact with another intelligent species,
- 53:50Speaker 7: that probably will also bring into focus how we might
- 53:54Speaker 7: want to be interacting with our own human people as well.
- 53:57Speaker 7: And there's some things there that I think we need
- 53:59Speaker 7: to to fix because if you kind of look at
- 54:02Speaker 7: the way we're progressing right now, we're currently viewing, like
- 54:06Speaker 7: you know, in terms of popular narrative, we would look
- 54:09Speaker 7: at aliens as being a threat, and this is probably
- 54:13Speaker 7: not the way to look at a super intelligent species.
- 54:19Speaker 9: I mean, yeah, I'm.
- 54:20Speaker 7: Sure they could obliterate us like in an instant without
- 54:23Speaker 7: even trying, But that fact they have it is all
- 54:26Speaker 7: you need to know.
- 54:28Speaker 11: That to Willy Strueber, go ahead to go out that,
- 54:35Speaker 11: you know, on the topic of ancient civilizations, we've found
- 54:38Speaker 11: several new homined species in just the last twenty years.
- 54:42Speaker 6: Or something exactly.
- 54:43Speaker 11: This is not a new problem for us. We haven't
- 54:47Speaker 11: experienced it in our you know, very short lifetime. So
- 54:50Speaker 11: there was a interaction between a lot of different hominted
- 54:54Speaker 11: species going on in our agent past that we don't
- 54:56Speaker 11: really have access to it in terms of our knowledge.
- 54:58Speaker 11: So this is kind of exciting.
- 55:01Speaker 2: Do you think Tolkien like knew some ship or he
- 55:03Speaker 2: was just kind of guessing some ship. You think you
- 55:09Speaker 2: knew some ships?
- 55:11Speaker 5: It seems like reads like a documentary these says a
- 55:14Speaker 5: bunch of you know, when you're writing reading it from
- 55:16Speaker 5: the right perspective, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 55:22Speaker 2: Sorrow Moon is the woke mob that didn't that come
- 55:25Speaker 2: up on the show earlier today?
- 55:26Speaker 11: Uh right, So the reversed the normal understanding of the rainbow.
- 55:34Speaker 11: So the rainbow flag that you see in all these priparides,
- 55:37Speaker 11: this is the reverse of the actual colors in the rainbow.
- 55:40Speaker 11: So it's it's kind of funny that they would do that,
- 55:42Speaker 11: you know, It's like this is the inversion of everything,
- 55:44Speaker 11: so interesting, sort of silly conundrum there.
- 55:49Speaker 6: Tolkien Tolkien knew some ship.
- 55:50Speaker 2: He like, you can connect a lot of stuff to
- 55:53Speaker 2: now in the in the future. I was like, I
- 55:57Speaker 2: thought about creating a YouTube channel about that one day,
- 55:59Speaker 2: and then I thought it, like twenty five people have
- 56:01Speaker 2: already done that. So, uh yeah, Jeff, who was your
- 56:08Speaker 2: favorite speaker at the event, Like somebody had seen before,
- 56:11Speaker 2: somebody who had maybe uh you know, left the mark
- 56:15Speaker 2: on m y.
- 56:16Speaker 12: So this is this was my first conference, big one
- 56:19Speaker 12: like this, like the bigger names. But Will Brown incredible history.
- 56:23Speaker 12: I think him and Michael Button were my and Michael Collins.
- 56:27Speaker 12: You got to give him that shot on in there.
- 56:29Speaker 5: Yeah it was I've got so many notes from Michael
- 56:31Speaker 5: Collins's present that was great.
- 56:34Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 56:34Speaker 12: I was talking to him after and he's like, here,
- 56:36Speaker 12: I wish you could have saw your face when I
- 56:37Speaker 12: pull up your picture, like you said a bit, thank you.
- 56:41Speaker 3: It's awesome.
- 56:43Speaker 12: But no, it was really nice to get to know
- 56:45Speaker 12: them guys a little bit onto the side, Michael Button
- 56:49Speaker 12: and Will Brown each and I just what I mean
- 56:52Speaker 12: about Will's is he he's sticking a lot in like
- 56:55Speaker 12: North America and the Southwest there, which I mean, yeah,
- 56:58Speaker 12: this whole concert is is a worldwide. But I remember
- 57:01Speaker 12: mentioning to a few people, but it seems like we
- 57:03Speaker 12: all agree that is not a lot of United States
- 57:06Speaker 12: and Central South America that's highlighted right now.
- 57:10Speaker 3: It's all Turkey and Egypt and.
- 57:12Speaker 5: Stuff like that.
- 57:13Speaker 12: So I always had a had a special interest in
- 57:18Speaker 12: the stuff in the US here.
- 57:20Speaker 2: Yeah, I like UFOs as well, And yeah, she's a
- 57:25Speaker 2: bit about the Grand Canyon.
- 57:28Speaker 11: Well, on the topic of Michael, but my watery wolf
- 57:33Speaker 11: Michael Collins is he he kind of had like this
- 57:36Speaker 11: uh cold bucket of water type of presentation where he's
- 57:40Speaker 11: showing exactly what direction uh mainstream archaeology is going, and
- 57:46Speaker 11: it's not promist excite. I think that that was the
- 57:49Speaker 11: most influential for me because just showing it just takes
- 57:53Speaker 11: your mind off of thinking that you're going to be
- 57:55Speaker 11: getting anything of value from the mainstream anytime soon, you
- 57:59Speaker 11: know what I mean?
- 58:00Speaker 7: Remember which speaker said it, but didn't one of the
- 58:02Speaker 7: speakers literally just say flat out archaeology a pseudo science.
- 58:06Speaker 7: Now probably you can't recall which one. I remember seeing
- 58:10Speaker 7: it up that all.
- 58:11Speaker 5: I think Dan was accused of saying it. I remember
- 58:14Speaker 5: seeing that on X or something like that. I don't
- 58:16Speaker 5: remember hearing it in person. I think it was there
- 58:18Speaker 5: one of the panels.
- 58:19Speaker 9: Maybe, I think it was on the panel.
- 58:21Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's there's no attack on an
- 58:26Speaker 2: individual archaeologist, but in general the field is, uh, it's
- 58:31Speaker 2: a soft science. It's it's an anthropology. You know, it's
- 58:34Speaker 2: something wrong with that, but you got to call it
- 58:37Speaker 2: what it is and not represent you know, like too much,
- 58:41Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like the from the known
- 58:44Speaker 2: to the unknown, and.
- 58:46Speaker 7: The history community should definitely like embrace truth. I mean,
- 58:51Speaker 7: like we can say that the Pyramids aren't tombs at
- 58:53Speaker 7: this point, I don't think.
- 58:56Speaker 2: I don't think it's like to be a serious any person.
- 58:59Speaker 7: Like I'm not saying that there aren't good archaeologists.
- 59:02Speaker 9: I love Robert Shock, but.
- 59:03Speaker 7: Like you can see how like even with as many
- 59:07Speaker 7: degrees as that guy has, you can't even call water
- 59:09Speaker 7: erosion water erosion. And so that's that's kind of you
- 59:12Speaker 7: have to be able to alter be honest about that too.
- 59:16Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 59:16Speaker 12: Plus make like Michael points out Michael Wondering Wolf, We'll
- 59:20Speaker 12: just say, Wondering Wolf points out the the all the
- 59:24Speaker 12: new stuff they're putting on all these ancient sites, like
- 59:26Speaker 12: when we saw the sphinx, it's going to be unrecognizable
- 59:29Speaker 12: to anyone.
- 59:31Speaker 2: Yeah, so did you guys know that?
- 59:34Speaker 5: Nick?
- 59:34Speaker 2: Did you did you know that? Like that? They were like,
- 59:37Speaker 2: so I've been done not much, peach you uh chitchinita
- 59:42Speaker 2: like twice now three times or something. And then I
- 59:45Speaker 2: met Michael Collins, who then told me that the whole
- 59:48Speaker 2: thing was like sixty percent uh you know, concrete or
- 59:52Speaker 2: whatever and plaster. And I'm going, well, that kind of
- 59:55Speaker 2: bums me out a little bit because when I was there,
- 59:57Speaker 2: people were literally like sun salutationing on the and crying
- 1:00:01Speaker 2: and stuff like that. And I remember thinking, you know,
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: it doesn't take away the fact that's like, you know,
- 1:00:06Speaker 2: an men'sally important place and spiritual and stuff, but it
- 1:00:09Speaker 2: throws through.
- 1:00:10Speaker 5: Me for a loop.
- 1:00:10Speaker 2: And I don't know I had that happen to you, Nick.
- 1:00:13Speaker 8: Well, yeah, I thought his presentation, you know, like columns
- 1:00:17Speaker 8: that we're talking about Wondering Wolf, I really like Heller said.
- 1:00:21Speaker 8: I I thought his was actually really most impressive because
- 1:00:24Speaker 8: I believe in it. There was just certain stuff that
- 1:00:26Speaker 8: I was just like, how the fuck did I not
- 1:00:28Speaker 8: even think that that was an issue?
- 1:00:29Speaker 5: Yeah?
- 1:00:30Speaker 8: You know what, I'm saying, like even just showing how
- 1:00:32Speaker 8: like these places even show up to even start working
- 1:00:34Speaker 8: on the places they've done fucked it up already. Yeah,
- 1:00:38Speaker 8: you know, they're drilling shit all the way down to
- 1:00:40Speaker 8: the ground, and they're running shit this way like you're
- 1:00:42Speaker 8: fucking ruining shit. Just to I was like, wow, like
- 1:00:45Speaker 8: the way they're go the way they want to preserve it,
- 1:00:47Speaker 8: they're ruining it. And I was like, I never just
- 1:00:50Speaker 8: never dawned on me that that would happen.
- 1:00:52Speaker 5: I don't know, And it should be pointed out. Here's
- 1:00:54Speaker 5: a note for I've got from that speech, right, So
- 1:00:57Speaker 5: he's not just condemning, right, he's showing us the facts
- 1:01:00Speaker 5: and how he presented it. Here was his words, seeing
- 1:01:03Speaker 5: the reality of archaeology stole this joy, right, And yeah,
- 1:01:08Speaker 5: actually asked it's a theme. It's a theme you see
- 1:01:10Speaker 5: echoed with Dan Richards where he he's always talking about
- 1:01:13Speaker 5: I fucking love science, right, and then getting in here
- 1:01:16Speaker 5: and seeing how it was done stole my joy, right,
- 1:01:19Speaker 5: my faith in it. So yeah, I just want to
- 1:01:22Speaker 5: throw that in. And that's what I found powerful about
- 1:01:24Speaker 5: what he was walking us through, right, was just that
- 1:01:28Speaker 5: coming through this awakening, seeing the reality of it, and
- 1:01:31Speaker 5: then and then what that did to him, and then
- 1:01:32Speaker 5: how he responded.
- 1:01:33Speaker 8: With that, and then I think, like even what Dave
- 1:01:37Speaker 8: was saying with like the fake you know, basically the
- 1:01:39Speaker 8: fake wolves, I was like, wow, I never realized how
- 1:01:42Speaker 8: much was even bullshitted too, you know, or the stuff
- 1:01:45Speaker 8: with the Sphinx. I was like, he didn't tell me that.
- 1:01:47Speaker 8: I would never have known it. I could have went
- 1:01:48Speaker 8: there and just thought that was the real shit.
- 1:01:50Speaker 12: Yeah, the whole headdress on the head of the sphinx,
- 1:01:52Speaker 12: you can see it's if you look up close in
- 1:01:54Speaker 12: a picture, you can see it's all just concreted all
- 1:01:56Speaker 12: the way around the neck, the face, everything.
- 1:02:00Speaker 5: Covered up that little button it used to be.
- 1:02:04Speaker 2: But isn't that a bit of a dick move to
- 1:02:06Speaker 2: ten year olds all around the world, you know.
- 1:02:08Speaker 6: Like to not know that that's true, that's the truth,
- 1:02:11Speaker 6: you know what I mean.
- 1:02:12Speaker 5: I see a parallel. Here's false history, that's history. Yeah,
- 1:02:19Speaker 5: that's lovely problematic.
- 1:02:21Speaker 11: How many video games have we played as a kid
- 1:02:24Speaker 11: where the main character goes to these sites has just
- 1:02:28Speaker 11: awaken it, you know, and that has to do the
- 1:02:31Speaker 11: game with this new found understanding or whatever. But that's
- 1:02:34Speaker 11: like such a common theme throughout all of pop cultures,
- 1:02:37Speaker 11: These these icons of our of our ancient past sort
- 1:02:40Speaker 11: of research themselves over and over again in terms of
- 1:02:44Speaker 11: our our mythology and the way that we see ourselves.
- 1:02:48Speaker 11: And then you find out, hey, actually that was all fake.
- 1:02:50Speaker 11: You're you're not actually looking at the sites at all.
- 1:02:54Speaker 5: What is that?
- 1:02:54Speaker 11: What is that supposed to do to you?
- 1:02:56Speaker 6: You know, I don't believe anything anymore? How about you make.
- 1:03:01Speaker 10: Maybe it's the intention that counts, because you're right, and
- 1:03:04Speaker 10: what you were saying reminded me of like the Carmen
- 1:03:07Speaker 10: san Diego. I learned a lot of guests about Atlantis
- 1:03:09Speaker 10: timing from Carmen San Diego.
- 1:03:11Speaker 6: Yeah exactly.
- 1:03:14Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a bummer, but at the same time made
- 1:03:18Speaker 2: me feel a little bit uplifted. But it's another thing
- 1:03:21Speaker 2: to say that and another thing to say like that.
- 1:03:24Speaker 2: You know, Jimmy Corsetti, for example, needs help, you know,
- 1:03:27Speaker 2: across multiple platforms right to get these types of messages
- 1:03:31Speaker 2: out there, because that really, like is a kick in
- 1:03:34Speaker 2: the you know, cultural nuts for all of us to
- 1:03:38Speaker 2: find out that the truth of our past is far
- 1:03:42Speaker 2: more complicated, far more incredible, and far more interconnected. Than
- 1:03:47Speaker 2: we ever possibly could have imagined should be like number one,
- 1:03:51Speaker 2: you know topic, and it currently gets called racist on
- 1:03:55Speaker 2: TV and on like mainstream sites. It's like, yeah, copper
- 1:04:00Speaker 2: mining and Michigan's racist, Like what are we talking about?
- 1:04:03Speaker 6: You know, It's like it doesn't make any sense.
- 1:04:08Speaker 2: But why I love this shit because literally people were
- 1:04:11Speaker 2: coming from all around the world and we started this
- 1:04:13Speaker 2: at the beginning. But Seron, welcome to the Abyss.
- 1:04:16Speaker 6: I think he's watching right now.
- 1:04:17Speaker 2: But like, Irish mythology has some weird connections, don't they have?
- 1:04:24Speaker 11: Absolutely, And if you look back at the way that
- 1:04:27Speaker 11: they even talk about how they started civilization in uh,
- 1:04:31Speaker 11: you know, the Irish homeland, it's it's through this contact
- 1:04:35Speaker 11: with the Mediterranean. You know, you've got the tin being
- 1:04:38Speaker 11: mined there by the ka Knite Phoenicians, right, and that
- 1:04:42Speaker 11: brings about the Bronze Age is because you've got this
- 1:04:45Speaker 11: tin being mined up there as well as the connection
- 1:04:48Speaker 11: between the Canaanite Phoenicians and the Egyptians.
- 1:04:50Speaker 3: So you find that.
- 1:04:51Speaker 11: There's this linkage between these two civilizations and then it's
- 1:04:55Speaker 11: all meeting up there in Ireland and there has to
- 1:04:58Speaker 11: be something deeper going on there. They've got to have
- 1:05:00Speaker 11: some sort of memory about this stuff, and you go
- 1:05:02Speaker 11: through their miss and you find it. Unfortunately, not enough
- 1:05:06Speaker 11: people know about those factors, and you know, these are
- 1:05:09Speaker 11: purely material culture factors, but at the same time you
- 1:05:13Speaker 11: have a lot of spiritual factors that are transferred over
- 1:05:15Speaker 11: in their mythology. So it's a very you know, it's
- 1:05:18Speaker 11: a burgeoning topic because a lot of people have sort
- 1:05:21Speaker 11: of put this back on the back burner for a
- 1:05:22Speaker 11: long time. It's like, well, what's the value from Ireland?
- 1:05:25Speaker 11: They got that from the British. You know, the British
- 1:05:27Speaker 11: have never looked at the Irish people as equals or
- 1:05:29Speaker 11: anything like that, and so Irish mythology, Irish history just
- 1:05:34Speaker 11: never seemed to play that big of a role in
- 1:05:36Speaker 11: British culture. But with people like Sirian going out there
- 1:05:40Speaker 11: and telling people about it, showing them in the books
- 1:05:42Speaker 11: where this stuff is, it's going to change real quick.
- 1:05:45Speaker 11: And so I'm really hopeful for that sort of Irish resurgence.
- 1:05:49Speaker 2: Well I don't quite understand it all, so I'm not
- 1:05:52Speaker 2: going to speak on it, but please he's got episodes
- 1:05:55Speaker 2: of our show, and he's on Occult Rejects as well.
- 1:05:57Speaker 6: Talking about this stuff.
- 1:05:58Speaker 2: But there's genetic connect too, right specifically in him even
- 1:06:03Speaker 2: I think to the Mediterranean that I don't know. You
- 1:06:08Speaker 2: don't have to let him talk about it, but it's
- 1:06:10Speaker 2: just fascinating, you know. And again, Irish is one of
- 1:06:13Speaker 2: these cultures that got suppressed, you know, where the winner.
- 1:06:17Speaker 6: Rights history, you know, and.
- 1:06:21Speaker 2: How much that's just in the last few, you know,
- 1:06:23Speaker 2: thousand years or whatever, right like we're talking two hundred
- 1:06:27Speaker 2: or three hundred thousand year human history.
- 1:06:29Speaker 6: How much has that actually happened?
- 1:06:31Speaker 2: And it really opens the door wide open for truth
- 1:06:35Speaker 2: as well as ideas like citizen archaeology, citizen his his being, his,
- 1:06:41Speaker 2: citizen historian, you know.
- 1:06:44Speaker 6: And there's no structure for it right now.
- 1:06:47Speaker 2: The structure is baseline ground level at these conferences and online,
- 1:06:51Speaker 2: and so people are coming and meeting together and when's
- 1:06:55Speaker 2: the next one? Mike, is it in Uh? Is it
- 1:06:57Speaker 2: in March? It's in Sidona? I believe in March are
- 1:07:01Speaker 2: and you guys trying to go to this one. I
- 1:07:02Speaker 2: may not be able to go.
- 1:07:03Speaker 6: It's just too close together. But Sedona's wants to be
- 1:07:06Speaker 6: a really sweet place from.
- 1:07:08Speaker 5: May May first to the third.
- 1:07:12Speaker 9: I'll definitely be there.
- 1:07:13Speaker 7: It's like right next door to me, ninety minutes away.
- 1:07:15Speaker 9: I definitely got to go, especially that Parvine's going to
- 1:07:17Speaker 9: be there.
- 1:07:18Speaker 6: Oh, Pravine's going to be there.
- 1:07:20Speaker 5: It's in May.
- 1:07:22Speaker 10: Yeah, and after that in October is Austin, Texas sixteenth
- 1:07:26Speaker 10: to eighteenth.
- 1:07:28Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:07:28Speaker 2: So they've already got these states set interesting and I
- 1:07:32Speaker 2: bet you these lineups will fill out. I'm betting they'll
- 1:07:37Speaker 2: fill out. But right now, those are pretty sweet lineups.
- 1:07:43Speaker 11: Well, on that topic, I think we got to get
- 1:07:46Speaker 11: Ashish to give us updates from Sedona. Yes, God, so
- 1:07:54Speaker 11: that we could, you know, get that that word out
- 1:07:56Speaker 11: there while he's there. He could be our reporter on
- 1:07:58Speaker 11: the ground.
- 1:08:00Speaker 9: I'll do whatever you guys want.
- 1:08:01Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I would like to least make one of those,
- 1:08:05Speaker 8: the one in Norston, Texas.
- 1:08:06Speaker 1: It seems interesting. I've never been to Texas really, so I.
- 1:08:11Speaker 2: Have a feeling I might have a lot of gravity
- 1:08:12Speaker 2: because of the Rogan's fear. But I think they're trying
- 1:08:16Speaker 2: to get that involved or I'm just putting that out
- 1:08:18Speaker 2: in the universe.
- 1:08:19Speaker 7: Right now, I'm going to the conference with Jesse Michaels
- 1:08:24Speaker 7: and the Area fifty one guy, the Channel Area fifty
- 1:08:27Speaker 7: one guy. Where's it's also in Austin, Okay, it's uh,
- 1:08:32Speaker 7: what's it called? It's probably nothing, I think is what
- 1:08:34Speaker 7: they're calling it. Jesse Michaels, I don't know. I'm in
- 1:08:37Speaker 7: the middle of it. But he just published an interview
- 1:08:40Speaker 7: with the president of a country discussing alien topics and
- 1:08:43Speaker 7: stuff like that. I'm going to get a little bit
- 1:08:45Speaker 7: more involved in the alien stuff.
- 1:08:47Speaker 5: I just posted a video about that.
- 1:08:49Speaker 11: We had a guy come on our podcast he's coming
- 1:08:51Speaker 11: back next week who was talking about DMT experiences versus
- 1:08:56Speaker 11: UFO experiences and what do you thought was that it
- 1:09:00Speaker 11: gets really confusing, like you can't tell the difference between
- 1:09:02Speaker 11: these things because there's somehow a linkage. And I found
- 1:09:06Speaker 11: the same thing going on with his description of this
- 1:09:09Speaker 11: experience is there's a definite tie between DMT and the
- 1:09:12Speaker 11: UFO abduction experience that I don't think is getting a
- 1:09:16Speaker 11: lot of traction or talk about online.
- 1:09:18Speaker 5: So that's a huge emergent field. I think that's a
- 1:09:22Speaker 5: Graham Hancock hits on that in Supernatural. It was renamed
- 1:09:26Speaker 5: I forget when he released it, but it's called Supernatural,
- 1:09:28Speaker 5: where he talks about right that through time these experiences
- 1:09:31Speaker 5: that if you look at it, whether you call it
- 1:09:32Speaker 5: the fairies, you know, and all these encounters people have
- 1:09:34Speaker 5: in the UK, right, But also if you look at
- 1:09:37Speaker 5: shamanic experiences as described through all the consciousness, if you
- 1:09:41Speaker 5: then compare notes with what we call the modern UFO phenomenon,
- 1:09:44Speaker 5: you start to see corollaries that are kind of hard
- 1:09:47Speaker 5: to deny. Right, Yeah, it's a theme.
- 1:09:54Speaker 7: A lot of people see machine ls on DMT and
- 1:09:58Speaker 7: it seems like their behavior identical to what people who
- 1:10:01Speaker 7: have had abduction experiences are talking about. Oftentimes, like these
- 1:10:05Speaker 7: creatures that are just moving boxes around and just minding
- 1:10:09Speaker 7: their own business.
- 1:10:11Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen them.
- 1:10:13Speaker 10: I thrid with the mantis or mantoid like beings in
- 1:10:16Speaker 10: sickness showed up to the mantoid.
- 1:10:20Speaker 2: People show video of mantoid moments. I've seen them the
- 1:10:25Speaker 2: machine els, but only when I was tripping balls on
- 1:10:28Speaker 2: a fever when I was like five years old. But
- 1:10:31Speaker 2: I think you can at the same time access some
- 1:10:34Speaker 2: of these, uh you know, areas of your mind on
- 1:10:39Speaker 2: a fever.
- 1:10:40Speaker 7: I mean I have very suspects of you know, just
- 1:10:45Speaker 7: the how hard I guess regulatory or authority has gone
- 1:10:50Speaker 7: on d mt because it's it's interesting that they have
- 1:10:55Speaker 7: outlawed of chemical that is naturally produced in the brain,
- 1:10:59Speaker 7: and so by proxy, everyone's holding and your brain is
- 1:11:05Speaker 7: a fair at illegal by doing that. And so you
- 1:11:09Speaker 7: would think that if the body is producing something, you
- 1:11:12Speaker 7: might want to study that in medicine.
- 1:11:14Speaker 9: But somehow they are.
- 1:11:16Speaker 2: There's somebody studying that shit. Now, yeah, lizard people are
- 1:11:19Speaker 2: studying it.
- 1:11:20Speaker 9: I'm sure.
- 1:11:22Speaker 6: It's them. It's them, lizard people.
- 1:11:25Speaker 5: So I've had experiences that you could definitely say were
- 1:11:28Speaker 5: with entities or levels of consciousness, or things that also
- 1:11:32Speaker 5: seem to have physical manifestations, be they lights in the sky,
- 1:11:35Speaker 5: be they the metallic or be they things that seem
- 1:11:38Speaker 5: to be able to impact the natural environment. However, all
- 1:11:41Speaker 5: of those experiences were when psychedelics were not involved. Whenever
- 1:11:44Speaker 5: I have whenever I've taken psilocybin, you know, when I
- 1:11:47Speaker 5: go to those yes, I I your consciousness, you know,
- 1:11:51Speaker 5: no more different than it is now, can access higher information, right,
- 1:11:55Speaker 5: but what you encounter is generally more revealed to you
- 1:11:57Speaker 5: about your environment. You know, yes, snakes, you know, roots
- 1:12:00Speaker 5: become snakes and all that kind of stuff. But yeah,
- 1:12:03Speaker 5: just to throw in the entities experience, I've had more encounters.
- 1:12:06Speaker 5: There's definitely things out there, not only conscious and spirit,
- 1:12:10Speaker 5: but things that also are manifest in this physical world.
- 1:12:13Speaker 5: And you don't need the psychedelics to see them and
- 1:12:16Speaker 5: encounter them.
- 1:12:17Speaker 2: In my experience, sometimes you need to run fifteen miles
- 1:12:21Speaker 2: before the sun comes up and see what happens, see
- 1:12:23Speaker 2: what your brain does.
- 1:12:25Speaker 5: Sometimes you just got to listen to whatever you guys
- 1:12:27Speaker 5: call it. You might say your intuition. I'll say, you know, God, right,
- 1:12:30Speaker 5: feed the input. Sometimes you just got to listen to
- 1:12:33Speaker 5: what you know and look and boom you will see
- 1:12:36Speaker 5: you know, and your eyes shall be open. Right those
- 1:12:37Speaker 5: who seek you know, the door shall be open.
- 1:12:41Speaker 11: Right. Well, I think getting into consciousness studies, I think
- 1:12:44Speaker 11: having a connection to some of the parts of the
- 1:12:47Speaker 11: day that we don't normally kind of experience. Like our
- 1:12:50Speaker 11: ancient ancestors were up with the sun, you know, they
- 1:12:52Speaker 11: were all getting out there by dawn, and they had
- 1:12:54Speaker 11: their dawn rituals and all the rest of the stuff
- 1:12:57Speaker 11: and schedules. They had different ideas of you know, it
- 1:13:02Speaker 11: used to be in the Middle Ages that people would
- 1:13:03Speaker 11: wake up all the ride.
- 1:13:05Speaker 10: Wow.
- 1:13:05Speaker 11: Yeah, two o'clock in the morning and then they would
- 1:13:08Speaker 11: get togethers and stuff and then go back to sleep
- 1:13:11Speaker 11: for a couple of hours and they wake up with
- 1:13:12Speaker 11: the dawn.
- 1:13:13Speaker 5: Yeah you wait, they'd wake up around midnight. You take
- 1:13:15Speaker 5: care of if you know, you're marriage, You got your
- 1:13:17Speaker 5: love making because the children are asleep. You've got your
- 1:13:19Speaker 5: little household duties like you're knitting, and the things that
- 1:13:21Speaker 5: you don't have time for during the day that are quiet.
- 1:13:24Speaker 5: And there was like a three or four hour window,
- 1:13:25Speaker 5: and then just before dawn you get another nest and
- 1:13:28Speaker 5: then you're up with the sun.
- 1:13:29Speaker 2: And then some asshole invented the light bulb and fucked
- 1:13:32Speaker 2: all that shit up, and then they create a hole
- 1:13:36Speaker 2: societal schedule. We have time zone, so we got all
- 1:13:39Speaker 2: communicate with each other and be on the same schedules.
- 1:13:42Speaker 5: We got to have some of that matrix. Lord, Yes,
- 1:13:45Speaker 5: we got to. We got to bring the matrix upon them,
- 1:13:47Speaker 5: No doubt.
- 1:13:49Speaker 6: All started with the light bulb.
- 1:13:51Speaker 2: You can go back in time and just oh, but
- 1:13:55Speaker 2: now somebody else was going to do it. It's inevitable, right, Mike.
- 1:13:58Speaker 10: Well, remember it was Edison's life, but not Tesla's. Tesla
- 1:14:01Speaker 10: was trying to go with wireless light bulbs from the
- 1:14:03Speaker 10: beginning and they went out of aaw that because the
- 1:14:06Speaker 10: wiremakers were had a racket with Edison and.
- 1:14:09Speaker 7: All them DC versus alternating current, direct current versus alternating current.
- 1:14:14Speaker 7: Tesla was trying to demonstrate alternating current was how you
- 1:14:17Speaker 7: get electricity to go over distance, and that's why we
- 1:14:20Speaker 7: need alternating currents. Yeah, it's a real show.
- 1:14:23Speaker 2: That's creating reality for our grandparents and their kids who.
- 1:14:28Speaker 6: Are our parents.
- 1:14:31Speaker 10: I didn't want to share since we were kind of
- 1:14:34Speaker 10: going through our favorite speakers. I'll share this and then
- 1:14:36Speaker 10: then we'll last Nick his favorite speaker. But Eddie Weaver
- 1:14:40Speaker 10: I recognized this guy right away. I recognized him from
- 1:14:43Speaker 10: Cosmic Summit and he gave I think it was Sunday
- 1:14:47Speaker 10: morning was his time slot. He gave a really cool
- 1:14:49Speaker 10: presentation on Atlantis all Law, the Atlantica movie at Cosmic Summit.
- 1:14:56Speaker 10: This one was like physical location with geographic evidence and
- 1:15:00Speaker 10: some like undersea surveys, undersea exploration, and then he had
- 1:15:06Speaker 10: data about how it sort of ties in with play
- 1:15:08Speaker 10: those description, which I thought was interesting because as as
- 1:15:13Speaker 10: like we were saying, this was kind of an ancient
- 1:15:15Speaker 10: Aliens conference where we didn't talk about aliens. There also
- 1:15:18Speaker 10: wasn't a whole lot of good old fashioned atlantis hunting.
- 1:15:22Speaker 10: But Eddie Weber give an awesome presentation, and he would
- 1:15:25Speaker 10: have been right right up there on the atlantis panel
- 1:15:28Speaker 10: and cosmic summits. So I look forward to hearing more
- 1:15:30Speaker 10: updates from him. Yeah, shout out to Eddie Weaver. He's
- 1:15:36Speaker 10: got to go out there with two UA vs. Last
- 1:15:39Speaker 10: one of the things in history was the Barracuda.
- 1:15:41Speaker 5: Ate the wire on his little submarket.
- 1:15:43Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that. I remember that. That guy's presentation
- 1:15:46Speaker 1: was good.
- 1:15:48Speaker 5: It was early.
- 1:15:49Speaker 2: I must have slept through that one or was eating
- 1:15:51Speaker 2: breakfast or something. I don't think I made that one.
- 1:15:53Speaker 2: So we were trying to get you up.
- 1:15:54Speaker 11: We're bagging on your door and everything.
- 1:15:57Speaker 6: Probably that sounds about right.
- 1:16:00Speaker 2: Cody, Cody has joined the stream.
- 1:16:02Speaker 6: Let's bring Cody, the star of the damn show up.
- 1:16:07Speaker 14: And there there that's a bit of an over cell.
- 1:16:11Speaker 14: How's your how's your voice? Buddy, dude, it's back. I
- 1:16:14Speaker 14: it's it's finally returned. So I mean mostly it's still
- 1:16:18Speaker 14: a little uh hit or miss, but yeah, it's mostly there.
- 1:16:21Speaker 14: I had a hell of a time though, so worth listening.
- 1:16:24Speaker 1: It definitely what.
- 1:16:28Speaker 6: Yeah, Cody was effort.
- 1:16:30Speaker 2: Those who weren't there weren't able to watch. He was
- 1:16:32Speaker 2: the host, but it turned into a lot more than that.
- 1:16:35Speaker 2: You were kind of, you know, a mover and shaker
- 1:16:38Speaker 2: all week and making things happen for the conference, So
- 1:16:40Speaker 2: thank you so much for that.
- 1:16:42Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 1:16:42Speaker 15: Absolutely, I just whenever things popped up that I could
- 1:16:47Speaker 15: plug into, I just dove in. Really, I just wanted
- 1:16:49Speaker 15: to make Mike look good, Like Mike took a big
- 1:16:52Speaker 15: ass chance on me, Mike Collins, and I take that
- 1:16:56Speaker 15: ship really seriously. So I was like, you know what,
- 1:16:59Speaker 15: I'm gonna land for this dude. He took a chance
- 1:17:01Speaker 15: on me. I'm gonna let him look silly. So yeah,
- 1:17:05Speaker 15: just whatever I could do, I was there for it.
- 1:17:08Speaker 4: But it was it was.
- 1:17:09Speaker 15: It was amazing getting to mean all of you guys
- 1:17:11Speaker 15: in person, because let me see, yeah, I got to
- 1:17:14Speaker 15: meet every single person on the street. So yes, yeah,
- 1:17:17Speaker 15: hell of an experience. The speakers were amazing, the weed
- 1:17:22Speaker 15: was amazing, just a lot of good stuff.
- 1:17:26Speaker 9: It was.
- 1:17:26Speaker 15: It was a good time.
- 1:17:28Speaker 6: Rubate says, what up, what's up?
- 1:17:31Speaker 5: Rue?
- 1:17:31Speaker 15: Thank you for watching, dude. Your questions were great too.
- 1:17:35Speaker 2: Rue was on firing the questions during the live stream.
- 1:17:39Speaker 2: It was was there with us, even though wasn't he
- 1:17:43Speaker 2: he was was always there with it, hanging out.
- 1:17:46Speaker 6: So it's good. And I said that like a Canadian
- 1:17:49Speaker 6: hanging out. But I don't know he knew in Australia.
- 1:17:54Speaker 2: I take Canadian to say it like like an Upper
- 1:17:56Speaker 2: Peninsula Michigan guy.
- 1:17:59Speaker 6: You say it up there, I see out out.
- 1:18:03Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 1:18:04Speaker 15: I love the on the other side of the planet
- 1:18:06Speaker 15: and can still make it happen and did all of
- 1:18:09Speaker 15: our shows, so everybody literally has no fucking excuse. Somebody
- 1:18:13Speaker 15: on the other side of the planet can do it.
- 1:18:15Speaker 5: Come on, I appreciate it if you started to think
- 1:18:20Speaker 5: the ruse account has multiple handlers because he is just everywhere.
- 1:18:23Speaker 1: You know, I've seen that account over on my channel to.
- 1:18:29Speaker 2: Well just FYI.
- 1:18:31Speaker 6: I think it's a good time to announce.
- 1:18:33Speaker 2: Brittany and Mike had decided off season to create a
- 1:18:37Speaker 2: sort of community award.
- 1:18:38Speaker 6: That's we're going to.
- 1:18:39Speaker 2: It's sort of in spirit more than anything that's going
- 1:18:42Speaker 2: to be going to mister Rubate for just being that
- 1:18:46Speaker 2: behind the scenes guy supporting the community. He's like a
- 1:18:50Speaker 2: He's like a palette out there online just for the cause,
- 1:18:54Speaker 2: you know, and.
- 1:18:55Speaker 6: I just really appreciate that.
- 1:18:57Speaker 2: It really is, so shout him out. Uh, we'll be
- 1:19:01Speaker 2: celebrating that out more towards Christmas. But I just want
- 1:19:03Speaker 2: I thought it was a good moment to drop that.
- 1:19:05Speaker 5: So Reuill even keep you straight, man, he didn't listen scheduling.
- 1:19:09Speaker 5: You got to work schedule?
- 1:19:10Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, totally will he totally will Yeah. Yeah, But
- 1:19:15Speaker 2: it's all within, it's it's heart's in the right place
- 1:19:17Speaker 2: for all.
- 1:19:18Speaker 5: Of it, so completely completely. You can tell Ru's a
- 1:19:21Speaker 5: good dude. I mean, that's all.
- 1:19:24Speaker 15: So I don't have terribly long I just wanted to
- 1:19:27Speaker 15: hop in in between the night chaos. But what have
- 1:19:30Speaker 15: I What have I missed? What's what's the conversation topic?
- 1:19:33Speaker 15: We just bullshit where.
- 1:19:34Speaker 5: We were running through favorite speakers. I think I've got
- 1:19:36Speaker 5: a couple more of us left there, that's all. So
- 1:19:39Speaker 5: what you got, Cody, how about you share with us? Yeah?
- 1:19:42Speaker 15: Mine was Will Brown. Honestly, like he's somebody I've liked
- 1:19:47Speaker 15: for a really long time, one of the people who
- 1:19:50Speaker 15: definitely like inspired me getting into this. So getting to
- 1:19:55Speaker 15: see him speak, he was actually like really dynamic. He
- 1:19:59Speaker 15: moved around the stage. I mean, he was a teacher,
- 1:20:03Speaker 15: so he's kind of got that, you know, that that
- 1:20:06Speaker 15: leading edge that maybe some of the other speakers don't have,
- 1:20:09Speaker 15: that the knowledge that you've got to keep people's attention
- 1:20:14Speaker 15: while you're up there. Right, It's different than what we
- 1:20:17Speaker 15: do when we're in front of a camera and we
- 1:20:19Speaker 15: can cut scenes when the energy isn't there, we can
- 1:20:22Speaker 15: retake it, edit and post whatever the case is. You know,
- 1:20:27Speaker 15: that doesn't always translate to being in a room full
- 1:20:31Speaker 15: of people. And he was one person that I thought
- 1:20:34Speaker 15: like really took it well off of the screen and
- 1:20:37Speaker 15: put it in front of a room full of people,
- 1:20:40Speaker 15: and he just felt natural. So I'm going to say
- 1:20:43Speaker 15: Will Brown, like, I don't know that it was necessarily
- 1:20:46Speaker 15: the speaker I learned the most from, per Se, but
- 1:20:51Speaker 15: it was the one I enjoyed the most. Dan's one
- 1:20:57Speaker 15: was the one that I learned the most from, and
- 1:20:59Speaker 15: he was a close second for overall enjoyment. But it
- 1:21:03Speaker 15: Will just had had a bit of a dynamic edge
- 1:21:06Speaker 15: and ease of comfort up there on stage that I
- 1:21:11Speaker 15: thought really translated well for that kind of event.
- 1:21:16Speaker 2: Yes, public speaking is like is huge, and he really
- 1:21:21Speaker 2: either he just a natural added, or he's got some
- 1:21:23Speaker 2: experience in doing it, or he had been prepping really
- 1:21:26Speaker 2: hard for that. But yeah, I thought he knocked that
- 1:21:30Speaker 2: out of the park as well.
- 1:21:32Speaker 15: It was good. Shit.
- 1:21:35Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know anybody, anybody else I want to
- 1:21:37Speaker 2: chime in on their favorite.
- 1:21:39Speaker 1: Well he did mention it before I thought Michael, yeah
- 1:21:41Speaker 1: this was next right. Yeah, yeah, I mean I did
- 1:21:44Speaker 1: kind of like end up kind.
- 1:21:45Speaker 8: Of mentioning who I thought was the best when I
- 1:21:47Speaker 8: was adding about Michael Collins. But yeah, I thought he was,
- 1:21:50Speaker 8: you know, he was my him, and I did enjoy that.
- 1:21:52Speaker 8: I didn't even remember the guy's name. I'm just keeping
- 1:21:54Speaker 8: it real. The guy who did the Atlantis thing. I
- 1:21:57Speaker 8: watched most of that. It actually kept my attention on
- 1:21:59Speaker 8: a watch most of it, so I must.
- 1:22:01Speaker 9: Have liked it.
- 1:22:01Speaker 1: But yeah, this guy, uh, it was like, yeah, the
- 1:22:06Speaker 1: first speaker.
- 1:22:06Speaker 15: Of the last day before Mike Collins.
- 1:22:09Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, shot to that guy.
- 1:22:11Speaker 15: Yeah, he's kind of new and he kind of he
- 1:22:14Speaker 15: came out of nowhere. I was seating breakfast that morning
- 1:22:19Speaker 15: and he came up and he was like, how are
- 1:22:20Speaker 15: you going to introduce me? And I was like, introduce
- 1:22:23Speaker 15: yourself to me. Who are you and what are we
- 1:22:25Speaker 15: talking about?
- 1:22:25Speaker 1: Oh that's who you told me that story.
- 1:22:27Speaker 15: I didn't know it was him, Yeah, and it like
- 1:22:29Speaker 15: it kind of caught me off guard. But he was
- 1:22:31Speaker 15: the nicest guy. I was honored to get to introduce him.
- 1:22:34Speaker 15: And I agree he had a really great presentation.
- 1:22:38Speaker 8: Yeah, I liked I really dug his thing, and well
- 1:22:41Speaker 8: I like presentations anyway. Uh that And I did think, like, uh,
- 1:22:45Speaker 8: I guess Michael Collins is like in a sense I
- 1:22:47Speaker 8: think maybe Headless even said it was like kind of
- 1:22:49Speaker 8: sobering in a sense where it was like wow, like
- 1:22:51Speaker 8: between between this and Younesco. But the ship's just getting
- 1:22:54Speaker 8: taken over and fucked right, yeah joke.
- 1:23:00Speaker 2: That's the leading like your uh, your muted brother, the.
- 1:23:08Speaker 10: Amount of profiteeriing that goes on where it's like, yeah,
- 1:23:11Speaker 10: the objective is not to really uncover the full extentle
- 1:23:14Speaker 10: what's going on at the site, is to just quickly
- 1:23:17Speaker 10: bring in some eateies and a gift shop and start
- 1:23:20Speaker 10: getting people to spend fossil fuels to travel there for
- 1:23:23Speaker 10: vacation purposes.
- 1:23:26Speaker 6: You know it, go ahead, one thing I do.
- 1:23:29Speaker 8: I did want to say he wasn't a speaker, but
- 1:23:31Speaker 8: somebody there that had a booth that actually quote my
- 1:23:33Speaker 8: attention besides fucking around and joking with the dude and
- 1:23:36Speaker 8: getting high at Casses. I will have to say at
- 1:23:41Speaker 8: one point I was like, damn, I wish this dude
- 1:23:42Speaker 8: was actually speaking here. But uh yeah, I mean when
- 1:23:46Speaker 8: I sat down with him and he actually explained to me,
- 1:23:48Speaker 8: like what he does, you know what I'm saying, Like
- 1:23:51Speaker 8: in the research he went into, I was like, Wow,
- 1:23:52Speaker 8: this guy's like really into this, really passionate, and it's.
- 1:23:56Speaker 1: Like he's serious.
- 1:23:57Speaker 8: You know, some people I know I've kind of taken
- 1:24:00Speaker 8: kind of like maybe a joke, but no, the guy's
- 1:24:02Speaker 8: actually as serious as a heart attack, and he really Yep,
- 1:24:05Speaker 8: he has passionate behind what the fuck he's doing.
- 1:24:08Speaker 2: Yeah, he talked to him on the Show's right.
- 1:24:13Speaker 1: Yeah, I was so happy to meet that guy.
- 1:24:15Speaker 5: He's got some stage acting, you know, he's he's an actor.
- 1:24:18Speaker 5: You guys know, I've got that background as well. And dude,
- 1:24:21Speaker 5: he reminded me of when I go to the theatrical conferences.
- 1:24:23Speaker 5: He was that. He was that dude who once you've
- 1:24:26Speaker 5: experienced the conference with that dude, you can't really imagine
- 1:24:29Speaker 5: it without it because there was always laughter, you know,
- 1:24:31Speaker 5: there was just always he was always throwing something to it.
- 1:24:35Speaker 15: I he's somebody that like for a long time, I've
- 1:24:38Speaker 15: tried to platform to the best of my ability, because
- 1:24:42Speaker 15: I've spoke a lot to the guy behind the scenes
- 1:24:45Speaker 15: enough to be like, you know what, he is really legit,
- 1:24:49Speaker 15: and it's like I I have like a bit of
- 1:24:53Speaker 15: a pseudo gimmick, so like I get when somebody else
- 1:24:57Speaker 15: is in gimmick by ed like lives the gimmick hello hard.
- 1:25:00Speaker 15: So it's hard sometimes to tell the difference. And I
- 1:25:03Speaker 15: for a while I was like, I don't know if
- 1:25:05Speaker 15: I should take this guy seriously if he's like if
- 1:25:08Speaker 15: this is in jest in some way, like what is
- 1:25:11Speaker 15: the deal? And he's well, if people aren't watching here,
- 1:25:16Speaker 15: it's definitely worth watching. If you're watching this on a repeat,
- 1:25:19Speaker 15: go check him out. But he after talking to him
- 1:25:23Speaker 15: for a while, I was like, this guy, like you said,
- 1:25:26Speaker 15: Nick serious, is a fucking heart attack, and he's spending
- 1:25:29Speaker 15: a lot of time and money pursuing this and asking
- 1:25:34Speaker 15: nothing in return. He would look at his T shirt shop.
- 1:25:37Speaker 15: He is selling his T shirts for literally the minimum
- 1:25:40Speaker 15: that you can sell them for on the shop at
- 1:25:43Speaker 15: zero profit to himself, Like, you can't get a fucking
- 1:25:46Speaker 15: Hain shirt as cheap as you can get a fucking
- 1:25:49Speaker 15: tried actal shirt. I'm not even kidding, Like go to Walmart.
- 1:25:53Speaker 15: That shit's literally more expensive. So the guy is like
- 1:25:59Speaker 15: putting his money where his mouth is to try and
- 1:26:01Speaker 15: legitimately educate people. He was awesome at his booth, and
- 1:26:05Speaker 15: I saw a lot of people turning up to it,
- 1:26:07Speaker 15: which made me really happy because I godd him into coming.
- 1:26:11Speaker 15: I talked to him into coming, And I'm glad that
- 1:26:13Speaker 15: it wasn't a bunk thing for him because I would
- 1:26:17Speaker 15: have felt like a real dick, you know.
- 1:26:19Speaker 16: So he had his little corner booth, we all had
- 1:26:23Speaker 16: to walk by, everybody had to walk by him, and
- 1:26:25Speaker 16: he really added something, you know, bro, he maximized he
- 1:26:28Speaker 16: did it, and I would I'm going to personally campaign
- 1:26:32Speaker 16: to the powers that be that get a spot in
- 1:26:37Speaker 16: either Sedona or Austin.
- 1:26:41Speaker 15: Because he's he's so fucking entertaining. He's so intelligent and
- 1:26:46Speaker 15: very well researched on the topic that I think right
- 1:26:49Speaker 15: now we're seeing a lot of people at the top
- 1:26:52Speaker 15: start to insert into the sitegeys when that starts happening,
- 1:26:58Speaker 15: they're going to be looking towards whoever has the most
- 1:27:02Speaker 15: robust research and it's Ed right.
- 1:27:04Speaker 11: Well, I think for Ed the mission wise disclosure and
- 1:27:09Speaker 11: he went for ancient disclosure and he picked up exactly
- 1:27:13Speaker 11: what he needed and he's running with it. That's the
- 1:27:15Speaker 11: thing you can say about Ed is he is taking
- 1:27:17Speaker 11: it to the next level and he's trying to get
- 1:27:19Speaker 11: people aware of this stuff that is just emerging. You
- 1:27:23Speaker 11: know that he understood the mission and he is he's
- 1:27:26Speaker 11: going for it.
- 1:27:26Speaker 5: So I'm really respect him for that.
- 1:27:28Speaker 15: And he dove in all in and like, I gotta
- 1:27:31Speaker 15: give it to the guy. And people should not take
- 1:27:34Speaker 15: his eccentric trappings too seriously, like myself, there's some good
- 1:27:41Speaker 15: stuff buried under there if you're willing to bite on
- 1:27:44Speaker 15: the gimmick. We're trying to be entertaining in a flat
- 1:27:46Speaker 15: ass n entertaining world. Give a break, everybody, No.
- 1:27:52Speaker 8: You know what, I think, what you realize is actually
- 1:27:54Speaker 8: some real shit there, and he's entertaining.
- 1:27:57Speaker 1: It makes it even better.
- 1:27:58Speaker 5: Actually, it's so much better.
- 1:27:59Speaker 15: Yes, why file successful? Like when people were like, there's
- 1:28:03Speaker 15: a talking fish, fuck this guy, Like for a while
- 1:28:07Speaker 15: that was definitely. Like the comments on his first videos
- 1:28:11Speaker 15: were like, your infos are really great, ditch the fish,
- 1:28:14Speaker 15: and now like when he started doing without heckelfish people, Yeah,
- 1:28:19Speaker 15: I swear I'm unsubscribing if you don't bring back heckelfish. Sam,
- 1:28:26Speaker 15: we need some goddamn entertainment. That's all I'm saying, was
- 1:28:29Speaker 15: Sam out there was up, Sam. It was great to
- 1:28:32Speaker 15: meet Sam. Now well we established that Flint Dibble was
- 1:28:35Speaker 15: like a penis. The more attention you give it, the
- 1:28:37Speaker 15: more he grows. Sam Like, oh, they're talking about me again,
- 1:28:45Speaker 15: especially anything through the ether, like in his dad's jacket,
- 1:28:50Speaker 15: getting all fucking I'll chub you and ship. Oh he
- 1:28:55Speaker 15: did post to be fair, he did put himself out
- 1:28:57Speaker 15: there today. He posted a picture in the dark of
- 1:28:59Speaker 15: the crowd from the Ancient Civilizations conference, and then he
- 1:29:03Speaker 15: posted some picture of him talking where there were like
- 1:29:06Speaker 15: more people. It was Dibble lurking around the crowd. I
- 1:29:09Speaker 15: don't know, was it, yes?
- 1:29:14Speaker 2: He should?
- 1:29:14Speaker 5: You know, Look, that's the thing. These people smell them
- 1:29:17Speaker 5: hang out at these places. Guys. You know, if you
- 1:29:20Speaker 5: can walk into something to this place without a narrative
- 1:29:23Speaker 5: and without objective and just let yourself, be be moved right,
- 1:29:27Speaker 5: whether you're there to learn and take copious notes and
- 1:29:29Speaker 5: be impressed by people who have moved you and inspired
- 1:29:32Speaker 5: you your whole life. Just be there, soak up for
- 1:29:34Speaker 5: a second.
- 1:29:35Speaker 17: You got a bunch of human beings all radiating fucking
- 1:29:37Speaker 17: light and caring about each other and caring about the whole, right,
- 1:29:41Speaker 17: and you would experience something different than all of these
- 1:29:43Speaker 17: these games they like to play online.
- 1:29:46Speaker 15: I would like to think that like Flint was there
- 1:29:48Speaker 15: somewhere like in the back, like these guys with this
- 1:29:54Speaker 15: like jam Quorder.
- 1:29:57Speaker 2: I think as related to Flint Dibble.
- 1:30:00Speaker 1: There we well, maybe that's who that guy is.
- 1:30:03Speaker 5: Exactly what I'm talking about, man as wild.
- 1:30:05Speaker 15: It's all part of the pre Dave accused somebody of
- 1:30:08Speaker 15: being a FED while we were there. Maybe that was
- 1:30:11Speaker 15: Flint Dibble.
- 1:30:14Speaker 2: I didn't flat out say the dude was aw that
- 1:30:18Speaker 2: that was me. I just said, let it play out
- 1:30:21Speaker 2: and you tell me.
- 1:30:23Speaker 15: I mean, you didn't do any fed boys ship like
- 1:30:26Speaker 15: stop the conference over on the side, throwing matches at
- 1:30:29Speaker 15: the stage. He was super nice audio.
- 1:30:33Speaker 10: They had a lot of monitor let's say, PC type
- 1:30:36Speaker 10: of programs and even in the fan rink so even
- 1:30:38Speaker 10: those guys nowadays.
- 1:30:40Speaker 15: Well yeah, they I mean, come on, they were at
- 1:30:43Speaker 15: the conference where we're all onto them.
- 1:30:48Speaker 5: I gotta go.
- 1:30:50Speaker 15: It was smoking once with you.
- 1:30:52Speaker 5: I enjoyed it.
- 1:30:52Speaker 2: Yeah, good time holding them to it right there, and
- 1:30:56Speaker 2: hopefully see you next time.
- 1:30:58Speaker 5: Dude, you want to talk about it, Mike, Mike and
- 1:31:02Speaker 5: I got to hang. We had an evening with Sam
- 1:31:05Speaker 5: out there. We spent a good probably I don't know
- 1:31:07Speaker 5: if it was forty five minutes or an hour at
- 1:31:08Speaker 5: a table with him there.
- 1:31:11Speaker 15: Into all sorts of things that one I was really
- 1:31:14Speaker 15: really excited to get in on. But instead me and
- 1:31:17Speaker 15: Dan Richards went on a walk about.
- 1:31:20Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw you. That wasn't a walk about. You too,
- 1:31:22Speaker 5: were fucking hauling ass somewhere. I saw I saw you too.
- 1:31:25Speaker 6: Like you guys were trying to go to that club
- 1:31:27Speaker 6: no one went to.
- 1:31:28Speaker 15: Yeah, and we didn't neither is the irony like Ellen
- 1:31:32Speaker 15: ended up going.
- 1:31:33Speaker 2: But we learned our lesson. We need a different spot.
- 1:31:35Speaker 2: That party is a good idea different can we just like.
- 1:31:39Speaker 15: How cool was fucking damn Richard?
- 1:31:42Speaker 5: Did?
- 1:31:42Speaker 15: Did you all get some time?
- 1:31:44Speaker 2: He's so much like on TV that he is in
- 1:31:47Speaker 2: real life. It's exactly the same, even cooler. To be honest, like,
- 1:31:50Speaker 2: he's just so super chill. I really enjoy him.
- 1:31:53Speaker 6: I'm trying to bother him too much.
- 1:31:55Speaker 5: I hadn't looked twice when I saw him. The first
- 1:31:57Speaker 5: time I really did, I did a double take. The
- 1:31:59Speaker 5: fucker glows, you know, he's he's got this joy and
- 1:32:04Speaker 5: this light about his ass that you really can't miss.
- 1:32:07Speaker 5: And you know, that was that was I Again. I
- 1:32:10Speaker 5: didn't take a lot of time to talk to him, man,
- 1:32:12Speaker 5: because it's like, boy, how long would that conversation go?
- 1:32:15Speaker 5: But every time I saw him, I had to run
- 1:32:16Speaker 5: over and stand in front of him, you know, Jason,
- 1:32:19Speaker 5: you know, Dan, just to feel that energy. You know,
- 1:32:22Speaker 5: it was really I was really happy to see that
- 1:32:24Speaker 5: about him. He reads like a good dude, you know,
- 1:32:26Speaker 5: and and all of that. And I talked to him.
- 1:32:28Speaker 5: We interviewed him once before, but in person, I was
- 1:32:31Speaker 5: just I was really pleased to see that he just
- 1:32:33Speaker 5: radiates the way he does.
- 1:32:34Speaker 7: Man, And I got a second that, Yeah, he gives
- 1:32:37Speaker 7: off really good energy. There was a whole line of
- 1:32:39Speaker 7: people that wanted to ask him questions. I happened to
- 1:32:41Speaker 7: be right at the front, and I asked him like
- 1:32:44Speaker 7: a bunch of questions about stuff I was interested in.
- 1:32:46Speaker 9: He was very very easy to talk to, very volight.
- 1:32:48Speaker 7: I was really humbled that he would even take my
- 1:32:51Speaker 7: questions and take him seriously and stuff.
- 1:32:53Speaker 9: He's a great dude.
- 1:32:55Speaker 10: I like to post his handmade on YouTube about going
- 1:32:58Speaker 10: to his local public library check got a book when
- 1:33:01Speaker 10: he was doing research, because I'm always an advocate for
- 1:33:03Speaker 10: going to the library and person and finding books.
- 1:33:05Speaker 1: Yep.
- 1:33:07Speaker 11: Well, Dan brought the heat on the elongated skull cultures
- 1:33:11Speaker 11: of North America. And that's something that doesn't get enough attention.
- 1:33:15Speaker 11: Is we're talking about all this stuff in Peru, but
- 1:33:18Speaker 11: once we can make that linkage between Peru and North America,
- 1:33:22Speaker 11: I mean, come on, what are we saying here? That's
- 1:33:24Speaker 11: thousands of miles difference, you know, all these these you
- 1:33:27Speaker 11: know differences in culture and everything else, and yet they're
- 1:33:30Speaker 11: bringing that same sort of uh, you know, elongated head
- 1:33:34Speaker 11: sort of stuff up into you know, Washington State, and so.
- 1:33:42Speaker 5: Is almost you know, too beastly for us to even compare.
- 1:33:46Speaker 11: But you know, Dan was bringing again this is a
- 1:33:49Speaker 11: topic that's close to me and Nick is is he
- 1:33:51Speaker 11: was talking about the magical rituals that went into creating
- 1:33:54Speaker 11: these planned cities using the debris from ancient civilizations, This
- 1:34:00Speaker 11: ancient headbinding culture, their bridge at this spot. It was
- 1:34:05Speaker 11: a bridge over this water. Some people think it was natural.
- 1:34:08Speaker 11: Dan was bringing up the idea that maybe there was
- 1:34:10Speaker 11: a tunnel involved in this bridge, that it collapsed into
- 1:34:13Speaker 11: the water, and that this whole thing could have been
- 1:34:16Speaker 11: an ancient civilization site. And the debris from this bridge
- 1:34:20Speaker 11: that had fallen apart was crushed into rubble and used
- 1:34:23Speaker 11: in the streets. And these streets of this city that
- 1:34:26Speaker 11: he was talking about were laid out in a pyramidal pattern.
- 1:34:32Speaker 11: So you've got the idea of magic being used by
- 1:34:35Speaker 11: these Freemasons in creating this whole new planned city. And
- 1:34:40Speaker 11: I was asking about the Mormons going specifically, but you know,
- 1:34:44Speaker 11: he didn't have any information on that. But there was
- 1:34:47Speaker 11: the huge Masonic influence. And if we can get to
- 1:34:49Speaker 11: the bottom of how magic is used to create nations,
- 1:34:52Speaker 11: I think that sort of unravels a lot of confusion
- 1:34:56Speaker 11: that we're going through right now.
- 1:34:59Speaker 15: I second that what it's worth. Yeah, No, that's his presentation.
- 1:35:03Speaker 15: That's why I said it taught me the most will
- 1:35:07Speaker 15: was the most dynamic on stage. He just he's very
- 1:35:11Speaker 15: natural in front of people. Dan was a fucking electrician.
- 1:35:13Speaker 15: It's not like he's had to do a lot of
- 1:35:15Speaker 15: electrical in front of hundreds of people, So let's give
- 1:35:18Speaker 15: him a little grace. But like what I learned from
- 1:35:21Speaker 15: his was definitely by far the most informational because he
- 1:35:27Speaker 15: did nail it with discussing what a lot of people
- 1:35:31Speaker 15: laugh at as a very fringe esoteric topic. That's no
- 1:35:35Speaker 15: fucking joke. Like just look at satellite imagery of how
- 1:35:39Speaker 15: downtowns of any major city is organized Masonic and a
- 1:35:44Speaker 15: call influence is from above, you can see it down below.
- 1:35:50Speaker 15: See there's even more esoteric influence. You can see it though,
- 1:35:55Speaker 15: in every way, influencing the critical infrastructure of cities. And
- 1:36:00Speaker 15: for Dan to highlight it in a scientific, nonchalant I
- 1:36:06Speaker 15: don't know that scientific let's say, sanitary way. He's not
- 1:36:10Speaker 15: approaching it from an a cult perspective. There was no
- 1:36:13Speaker 15: WU in his presentation, right, and that's.
- 1:36:17Speaker 11: Like you to leave things out. And that's what I
- 1:36:19Speaker 11: like about Dan is he's not because it's inconvenient to
- 1:36:22Speaker 11: a bigger narrative.
- 1:36:23Speaker 1: Act exactly appreciate it.
- 1:36:26Speaker 15: No, Dan Honestly, I've called him uncle Dan for a
- 1:36:30Speaker 15: long time before I went on Limitless. He was one
- 1:36:33Speaker 15: of the people that like gave me advice and was
- 1:36:35Speaker 15: kind enough to like reach out and say something kind beforehand.
- 1:36:40Speaker 15: So I was like really excited to meet him and
- 1:36:41Speaker 15: hoping that he wouldn't be a douche because like a
- 1:36:43Speaker 15: lot of times, you know people that you have like
- 1:36:46Speaker 15: really high expectations for and they fall short. Honestly, during
- 1:36:51Speaker 15: the conference, I probably spent more time with him than
- 1:36:53Speaker 15: I even spent with.
- 1:36:54Speaker 5: Like Dave I was.
- 1:36:56Speaker 15: I was with Dan a lot, and uh a fin
- 1:37:00Speaker 15: little behind the scenes thing. There was that guy with
- 1:37:02Speaker 15: those crazy joints, right, oh yeah, yeah, shout out to
- 1:37:08Speaker 15: that guy.
- 1:37:09Speaker 5: He had.
- 1:37:09Speaker 15: He had given me one of those like really crazy
- 1:37:13Speaker 15: joints on whatever day Dan was going on the second
- 1:37:17Speaker 15: or third day, and he was like here, I have
- 1:37:20Speaker 15: another one of these, and I was like sick.
- 1:37:22Speaker 3: Thanks.
- 1:37:22Speaker 15: So I go over with Dan find him because he's
- 1:37:26Speaker 15: up next, and we're out on the side like practicing
- 1:37:29Speaker 15: our shit, just smoking this and it's like two minutes
- 1:37:34Speaker 15: before he's supposed to go up, and I'm like, all right,
- 1:37:37Speaker 15: I'll meet you in there. I'm gonna get set up
- 1:37:39Speaker 15: on stage. You've got to come get plugged in. He's like,
- 1:37:41Speaker 15: all right, I'll see you in there. And like five
- 1:37:44Speaker 15: minutes goes by, and the sound guy's freaking out. He's like,
- 1:37:48Speaker 15: we've got we've got to get Dan plugged in.
- 1:37:50Speaker 5: Where is he?
- 1:37:51Speaker 15: And I was like, oh God, like I got Dan
- 1:37:53Speaker 15: too high, and he's probably just fucking wandering around somewhere.
- 1:37:58Speaker 15: So like now seven minutes goes by, ten minutes and
- 1:38:01Speaker 15: I'm like, oh fuck. So like I run out and
- 1:38:04Speaker 15: I'm like looking for Dan all over the place. He
- 1:38:07Speaker 15: just comes like casually strolling on.
- 1:38:09Speaker 5: And so that's how I didn't miss the beginning of Dan.
- 1:38:14Speaker 5: I was late, and I wondered how I called all
- 1:38:17Speaker 5: of Dan's speech.
- 1:38:19Speaker 15: I had to restructure like conference times from there and
- 1:38:23Speaker 15: when people were going on. So I got Dan too high,
- 1:38:27Speaker 15: and anybody who was late to the conference hall of
- 1:38:32Speaker 15: that day, you're welcome. You miss nothing because of me.
- 1:38:36Speaker 5: So I got you, Cody. We need a T shirt
- 1:38:39Speaker 5: that said blame Cody.
- 1:38:40Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 1:38:41Speaker 15: Well, hey, but nobody noticed the rest of the other
- 1:38:45Speaker 15: Prince worked out just fine as long as you weren't
- 1:38:47Speaker 15: paying attention to what time shit started.
- 1:38:51Speaker 5: Right was if you were everybody was in it together.
- 1:38:55Speaker 4: You know.
- 1:38:55Speaker 5: That's the thing about like a normal conference. You didn't
- 1:38:57Speaker 5: have conflicting schedules, you know, you had you had each
- 1:39:00Speaker 5: speaker in order, and everybody was there for the exact
- 1:39:03Speaker 5: same programs.
- 1:39:04Speaker 15: And everyone got their time right. I restructured stuff on
- 1:39:08Speaker 15: all three days. I ended up having to make pivots
- 1:39:11Speaker 15: and restructure speakers, and not one person had their shit cut.
- 1:39:16Speaker 15: I wanted everybody to be able to get it in
- 1:39:18Speaker 15: and not one person had to cut. Who got the
- 1:39:21Speaker 15: short end of the stick. Mike and Dave, they got
- 1:39:23Speaker 15: the short end of the stick because that's where I
- 1:39:24Speaker 15: made up time was on those live streams and Gary
- 1:39:28Speaker 15: Gary was kind enough with me with Quarterblack Garrett to
- 1:39:31Speaker 15: work with me throughout the thing and his segments and
- 1:39:35Speaker 15: Mike and Dave's segments. That's where we made ship back up.
- 1:39:39Speaker 15: And not one speaker had their time cut. So, yeah,
- 1:39:42Speaker 15: there's some behind the scenes fun that Dan Richards was
- 1:39:46Speaker 15: some Shenanigans involved in.
- 1:39:48Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right.
- 1:39:52Speaker 6: Yeah, So shout out to nerd Rotick.
- 1:39:54Speaker 2: Gary. He was a professional all weekend. Mike and I
- 1:39:57Speaker 2: were just kind of following his lead. We got to
- 1:39:59Speaker 2: step in there some key moments, which was cool, and like,
- 1:40:02Speaker 2: we learned a lot for anyone who did the live
- 1:40:05Speaker 2: watch the live stream.
- 1:40:06Speaker 6: We plan on doing that better next time.
- 1:40:09Speaker 2: And we learned a lot, and so we appreciate your
- 1:40:11Speaker 2: guys patience with us, but we're going to find a
- 1:40:13Speaker 2: better way to execute that.
- 1:40:15Speaker 6: And so I just want to throw that out there.
- 1:40:17Speaker 6: But yeah, working with Gary was super fun.
- 1:40:20Speaker 2: I try to keep like, like the super famous guys,
- 1:40:22Speaker 2: like even Dan, Like I try to like let everyone
- 1:40:25Speaker 2: else absorb their energy because I can. I feel like
- 1:40:28Speaker 2: how exhausting that might be sometimes, so I try not
- 1:40:31Speaker 2: to do that. Why I didn't get to hang out
- 1:40:33Speaker 2: with him as much as I'd like, but maybe next time.
- 1:40:35Speaker 2: But he just seemed like really professional all weekend and
- 1:40:39Speaker 2: nice is great.
- 1:40:40Speaker 3: He was.
- 1:40:40Speaker 5: That was the thing he was. He was another ball
- 1:40:43Speaker 5: of light. You know, he's I had never heard it,
- 1:40:45Speaker 5: even heard of him, honestly, and I mean that totally positive.
- 1:40:47Speaker 5: I don't pay attention to a lot of shit about
- 1:40:48Speaker 5: the culture until until like he was on Wondering Wolf Show,
- 1:40:51Speaker 5: you know, two days before the conference, and so I
- 1:40:54Speaker 5: just watched him, dude, and like you say, rue, he
- 1:40:56Speaker 5: just had a professionalism that was evident. You know, he's
- 1:40:59Speaker 5: just so natural but also another ball alight man. You know,
- 1:41:03Speaker 5: just just radiates goodness to all those that were around him.
- 1:41:06Speaker 3: Mm hmm, Yeah, he's he Oh go ahead.
- 1:41:09Speaker 12: I was just gonna say, I've gotten to know him
- 1:41:11Speaker 12: pretty good over the last year, and he's all that
- 1:41:13Speaker 12: whole crew forbidden front of your note out of crew
- 1:41:15Speaker 12: you guys as well.
- 1:41:17Speaker 3: Everybody.
- 1:41:18Speaker 12: What you see on the cameras what you get in
- 1:41:19Speaker 12: real life. No one's a fake, fake face on the camera.
- 1:41:22Speaker 12: Everyone just comes to these things and they are who
- 1:41:24Speaker 12: they are.
- 1:41:24Speaker 3: And that's what I absolutely love about all this.
- 1:41:28Speaker 5: I just want to say, I agree authenticity. I mean,
- 1:41:31Speaker 5: it's correct.
- 1:41:33Speaker 3: He always says.
- 1:41:33Speaker 12: Gary always says authenticity is the currency of the future.
- 1:41:37Speaker 3: It is.
- 1:41:38Speaker 1: I well so.
- 1:41:39Speaker 15: From a fan perspective, From a strictly unplugged fan perspective,
- 1:41:45Speaker 15: Gary is the guy out of everybody there because Jimmy
- 1:41:48Speaker 15: didn't end up making it, because he's the only one
- 1:41:50Speaker 15: that would have beat Gary. Gary is the only guy
- 1:41:55Speaker 15: that I have watched for like a decade as a fan,
- 1:42:01Speaker 15: and well, William Henry and at Childress count because I've
- 1:42:04Speaker 15: watched them since I was like eight, right, But I've
- 1:42:07Speaker 15: never thought to myself, like, man, I'm turning on ancient
- 1:42:12Speaker 15: aliens to watch William Henry or David Childress. Shout out
- 1:42:15Speaker 15: to both of the guys.
- 1:42:16Speaker 9: They rock.
- 1:42:16Speaker 15: But like, just from a fan perspective, that Gary's personalities
- 1:42:21Speaker 15: the type of people I radiate towards, and I've I've
- 1:42:25Speaker 15: ranked in like those YouTube recaps at the end of
- 1:42:28Speaker 15: the year in the like the top fan for nerd
- 1:42:31Speaker 15: ROTI consistently for years because I don't miss hardly any
- 1:42:35Speaker 15: of their shows. I go back and I watch them
- 1:42:37Speaker 15: if id some life. So to get erect like tutelage
- 1:42:42Speaker 15: from that guy, Man, you nailed it, Dave. Like that
- 1:42:45Speaker 15: shit was like golden cipher and I was like, play
- 1:42:48Speaker 15: a cool Cody. This is this is normal casual shit
- 1:42:51Speaker 15: for you. You're a professional. This isn't Gary Bcheler from
- 1:42:54Speaker 15: nerd Rotick the guy you watch any kitchen every night
- 1:42:58Speaker 15: while you make dinner. Not at all, not at all.
- 1:43:02Speaker 2: You played it off pretty well, brother, I must admit
- 1:43:05Speaker 2: actively you bet in there before. I think it was
- 1:43:08Speaker 2: expanding for everyone who was there, you know, I think
- 1:43:10Speaker 2: everyone expanded from each other's a sphere, you know, by
- 1:43:17Speaker 2: creating one together.
- 1:43:18Speaker 6: So uh, I really really felt like that.
- 1:43:22Speaker 2: I'm hoping this these next two grow like Austin's the
- 1:43:27Speaker 2: one I'm aiming for. I know she's super close to,
- 1:43:31Speaker 2: So don't. I always wanted to scare Ody You're trying
- 1:43:36Speaker 2: to go to this, so I don't.
- 1:43:39Speaker 15: I don't want to, like you know, Jinx anything. But
- 1:43:43Speaker 15: what I preliminary, preliminarily know is uh, I will be
- 1:43:48Speaker 15: involved in all of the quest conferences henceforth, so too
- 1:43:55Speaker 15: to some degree. We'll see what but probably pretty similar
- 1:44:01Speaker 15: to what you saw at the last one, is my hunch.
- 1:44:04Speaker 15: But I'll find out for sure for sure in the
- 1:44:08Speaker 15: the next week or two. But I'll probably be at Sedona.
- 1:44:11Speaker 15: That was a long way to say. Yes, I'll be
- 1:44:13Speaker 15: there and at Austin, and I do believe they've announced
- 1:44:17Speaker 15: already that Scottsdale will be returning December fourth through the
- 1:44:22Speaker 15: seventh next year, so you can count on me there
- 1:44:26Speaker 15: as well.
- 1:44:27Speaker 9: I'll see you again.
- 1:44:29Speaker 5: Hell yes, I'll do.
- 1:44:31Speaker 3: As Stale trip.
- 1:44:34Speaker 6: Scott's Sale is a weird town.
- 1:44:35Speaker 2: I kind of liked it.
- 1:44:36Speaker 6: I'd like to some one a little bit more like
- 1:44:38Speaker 6: it a lot.
- 1:44:39Speaker 15: Yeah, we're gonna We're going to explore next time, Dave.
- 1:44:41Speaker 9: There's a lot of cool stuff out here.
- 1:44:43Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:44:44Speaker 5: Yeah, I never left the compound myself extremely clear seeing
- 1:44:48Speaker 5: more of it.
- 1:44:49Speaker 15: Yeah, I didn't really either.
- 1:44:54Speaker 11: Through downtown Scottsdale, it is like a different world, Like
- 1:44:57Speaker 11: it doesn't look like any of the rest of these
- 1:44:59Speaker 11: American cities.
- 1:45:01Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, we got to figure out this formula.
- 1:45:06Speaker 15: It was interesting.
- 1:45:07Speaker 6: Money, that's the formula.
- 1:45:09Speaker 15: Well, so Knoxville is the only other like big city
- 1:45:15Speaker 15: that I've personally seen that like doesn't have graffiti, doesn't
- 1:45:19Speaker 15: have homelessness, but it also doesn't have the money that
- 1:45:23Speaker 15: scott Stale had. Scottsdale just like reeked of high class
- 1:45:28Speaker 15: and was clean as hell, but also pain big. Yeah,
- 1:45:32Speaker 15: so I was honestly very impressed. It is a very
- 1:45:36Speaker 15: bougie you nailed it city, And I don't know I
- 1:45:40Speaker 15: would want to live there. I live in the middle
- 1:45:42Speaker 15: of nowhere, surrounded by like cows and open grassland, but
- 1:45:47Speaker 15: to visit it was quite nice.
- 1:45:50Speaker 5: It was.
- 1:45:50Speaker 15: It was a very bougie experience that you could immediately
- 1:45:54Speaker 15: plug unplugged from if you wanted to, and go into
- 1:45:57Speaker 15: the desert, which was also beautiful. The whole skies of
- 1:46:00Speaker 15: Arizona and stuff. We we had a beautiful sunset every night.
- 1:46:04Speaker 5: It was freaking we did.
- 1:46:07Speaker 9: Every day.
- 1:46:08Speaker 7: Yeah, Scottsdale is just one of the burrows of Phoenix.
- 1:46:12Speaker 7: Phoenix has a bunch of them, and so they all
- 1:46:15Speaker 7: have their own flavor, all all five or six of them,
- 1:46:18Speaker 7: however many there are.
- 1:46:19Speaker 11: Yeah, it seemed like I know, personally, I really enjoyed
- 1:46:24Speaker 11: actually falling asleep in the sun. Yeah, I know.
- 1:46:30Speaker 5: It was like treat for me.
- 1:46:32Speaker 15: Yeah, I accidentally did well. I was going over my
- 1:46:35Speaker 15: script one day. I was laying by the pool tanning,
- 1:46:38Speaker 15: and I was like, I'm just gonna just do this kind.
- 1:46:42Speaker 9: Of deal for a minute.
- 1:46:45Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 1:46:45Speaker 5: I tried to steal about twenty minutes in between and
- 1:46:48Speaker 5: jump in the pool there and then I look over
- 1:46:50Speaker 5: at his headless, just like a cat.
- 1:46:53Speaker 15: Just hell, yes, you guys, I gotta hop off and
- 1:46:58Speaker 15: make some dinner. But I love Yeah, it was pleasure
- 1:47:01Speaker 15: to pleasure.
- 1:47:03Speaker 2: We're gonna start wrapping up on our end anyway, so
- 1:47:05Speaker 2: we'll talk to you us again soon, buddy.
- 1:47:08Speaker 5: So you see friend, Okay, Carty, So favorite speakers, Uh,
- 1:47:14Speaker 5: I'm gonna throw out h Newman and jje so uh,
- 1:47:19Speaker 5: you know, look, everybody was excellent. I mean, I I
- 1:47:22Speaker 5: missed Michael Buttons, who I want to see, and then
- 1:47:24Speaker 5: I missed Will Uh. So I can't really you know,
- 1:47:27Speaker 5: comment on those two, but for me personally, JJ who
- 1:47:30Speaker 5: went before Hugh. You know, they're talking about Toss tep
- 1:47:32Speaker 5: player and Karen Tape and go Beckley teppeh and yeah,
- 1:47:36Speaker 5: and she's she's really harping on all the shamanic stuff,
- 1:47:39Speaker 5: you know, so naturally it starts peaking my ears. She
- 1:47:41Speaker 5: talks about vultures and buzzards being big there. Then she
- 1:47:45Speaker 5: talks about bores now in my own path. Right, here's
- 1:47:47Speaker 5: a little funny side note. So when I discovered this
- 1:47:50Speaker 5: triangular mound, you know, along the Cobber River, the way
- 1:47:52Speaker 5: I get to the top of it is there's a
- 1:47:54Speaker 5: wild boar and I'm unarmed. I just have a stick
- 1:47:56Speaker 5: and I hear a wild boar and so I run
- 1:47:57Speaker 5: to the top of this thing for the first time. Right,
- 1:48:00Speaker 5: So I'm sitting there, she's saying how the bores are
- 1:48:02Speaker 5: everywhere at Karen Teppe, you know. So my mind's you know,
- 1:48:04Speaker 5: these little fun connections. And then we go into Hugh
- 1:48:06Speaker 5: Newton and Hugh Newman just presents me with so much
- 1:48:10Speaker 5: information about the Look when I see Karen teppan Go
- 1:48:14Speaker 5: Beecley Teppe, what I see is potential survivors of this cataclysm, right,
- 1:48:18Speaker 5: And and my work over here in America has got
- 1:48:20Speaker 5: me bumping up against the antidiluvian stuff, right. So these
- 1:48:24Speaker 5: two people just totally excited in my own little brain,
- 1:48:27Speaker 5: my own little theories, you know. And I was there
- 1:48:29Speaker 5: through both of them for like the two hours, just
- 1:48:31Speaker 5: just spouting out notes, taking pictures. So just shout out
- 1:48:35Speaker 5: to those two independent researchers, and yeah, they moved me,
- 1:48:39Speaker 5: you know, in my own theories and stuff forward quite
- 1:48:41Speaker 5: a bit, and that was awesome. And then last thing,
- 1:48:44Speaker 5: personal note, Look, Graham and Randall have have been huge
- 1:48:48Speaker 5: influences on just me personally, right and through my life,
- 1:48:52Speaker 5: you know. And then Graham reading all those books really
- 1:48:55Speaker 5: prepped me for the work I started, you know, finding
- 1:48:57Speaker 5: myself in with finding all this antidiluvian stuf. And so
- 1:49:01Speaker 5: to be able to sit there with those two even
- 1:49:02Speaker 5: though there wasn't a lot of new information for a
- 1:49:04Speaker 5: guy like me who soaks all their stuff up, to
- 1:49:06Speaker 5: be able to sit there while they're chatting and you know,
- 1:49:08Speaker 5: take notes and then to they opened up to questions,
- 1:49:12Speaker 5: and so for Jason personally, guys, I got to go
- 1:49:15Speaker 5: up there and ask these two dudes that meant so
- 1:49:16Speaker 5: much to me some questions, right, And I got to like,
- 1:49:19Speaker 5: we're sitting here at a computer now looking at each other.
- 1:49:21Speaker 5: I got to look at them and see their faces
- 1:49:23Speaker 5: beaming back at me, and you know, nearly fucking lose it,
- 1:49:25Speaker 5: like Cody was saying, having a fan moment where you're like,
- 1:49:29Speaker 5: you know, and you're just excited. And so for me,
- 1:49:31Speaker 5: that clinch, that clinch Saturday alone, right, I held it
- 1:49:34Speaker 5: together and I thought I was professional, you know, representing
- 1:49:36Speaker 5: the podcast and all, but inside it was just like
- 1:49:38Speaker 5: a little kid, you know, who had reached a personal
- 1:49:40Speaker 5: sort of sort of little dream moment.
- 1:49:42Speaker 4: You know.
- 1:49:43Speaker 5: So that was my takeaways. Everybody, guys, was incredible, you know,
- 1:49:48Speaker 5: I mean really, that's what I can say. Everybody we
- 1:49:49Speaker 5: bumped up against, everybody that was running at every everybody
- 1:49:52Speaker 5: we've mentioned here I would hope to bump into again.
- 1:49:56Speaker 5: You know. It's just just great people. And I had
- 1:49:59Speaker 5: a great time guy, you know, just being in there.
- 1:50:02Speaker 5: And really, Dave, thanks for making it possible Brot on
- 1:50:04Speaker 5: so many levels.
- 1:50:06Speaker 6: Shout out to you for jumping in and helping.
- 1:50:08Speaker 2: Though you were behind the scenes, Jason was doing a
- 1:50:11Speaker 2: bunch of stuff like he was. He was the mic
- 1:50:13Speaker 2: is moving MIC's around, he's helping him set up. He's
- 1:50:16Speaker 2: like doing his thing, and no one asked him to
- 1:50:19Speaker 2: do that. He was just the goodness of his heart.
- 1:50:21Speaker 2: And I really think that's kind of stuff is important
- 1:50:25Speaker 2: in this community.
- 1:50:26Speaker 4: And you know, I.
- 1:50:30Speaker 2: Really enjoyed Hugh Newman as well, because when he hints
- 1:50:33Speaker 2: at these like super solstice alignments, that kind of shit
- 1:50:37Speaker 2: just makes my brain go right. And you know, you
- 1:50:42Speaker 2: line that up with you know, archaeological evidence of the
- 1:50:47Speaker 2: size of our cranium and stuff by archaeology and stuff,
- 1:50:49Speaker 2: and it's like it lines up, so it's it's it's weird.
- 1:50:54Speaker 2: And so I and if there's one thing that ancient
- 1:50:58Speaker 2: people would have noticed, it would have been solstice alignments
- 1:51:02Speaker 2: over long periods of time. They I could see being
- 1:51:06Speaker 2: able to tell that story. It doesn't seem that complicated
- 1:51:12Speaker 2: that the difficulty would be like having staying power to
- 1:51:15Speaker 2: tell that story for thousands and thousands of years, you know,
- 1:51:19Speaker 2: And so I think they found the best way to
- 1:51:21Speaker 2: do it in megolithic structures. Part of part of what
- 1:51:25Speaker 2: this shit is, you know.
- 1:51:27Speaker 11: Well, I got to ask an interesting question to Hugh
- 1:51:29Speaker 11: Newman as he was talking about these secret societies keeping
- 1:51:33Speaker 11: all of the astrological information and then putting that into
- 1:51:36Speaker 11: their structures, and I'm like, well, what's changed. We still
- 1:51:40Speaker 11: have these agent you know, orders that are keeping the
- 1:51:43Speaker 11: astrological information and then putting that into the structures that
- 1:51:46Speaker 11: we see around us.
- 1:51:47Speaker 5: So it's literally part of my notes headless was that
- 1:51:51Speaker 5: was was this the start of secret societies? Was fucking
- 1:51:54Speaker 5: go Beckley Teppe where they decided we're going to bury
- 1:51:56Speaker 5: this shit and we're going to keep it up here
- 1:51:58Speaker 5: with us, and we're going to move forward in a
- 1:52:00Speaker 5: society that doesn't have this knowledge. You know.
- 1:52:03Speaker 7: Yeah, imperialistic hierarchy seems to be embedded and worldwide culture now.
- 1:52:10Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, that's how we roll. That's the only way
- 1:52:13Speaker 2: to do things, guys. Is we've never done anything different
- 1:52:16Speaker 2: as a species ever. This is the only way we've
- 1:52:18Speaker 2: ever done anything right now.
- 1:52:19Speaker 5: Aren't at it for six thousand years? Forget those two
- 1:52:22Speaker 5: or a million years where we were walking around with
- 1:52:24Speaker 5: the same fucking brains, the same capacities, the same level
- 1:52:26Speaker 5: of consciousness, the same thing that all of us have
- 1:52:28Speaker 5: here now. But we just started six thousand years ago
- 1:52:31Speaker 5: putting shit together.
- 1:52:33Speaker 11: Sure, wells, Jeff, Jeff, who was your favorite speaker?
- 1:52:39Speaker 3: We'll talk about it again.
- 1:52:43Speaker 2: You mentioned Bill?
- 1:52:43Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 1:52:44Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Mike, did you tell us who your favorite was?
- 1:52:46Speaker 4: Yet? Oh?
- 1:52:46Speaker 2: Yeah you did.
- 1:52:48Speaker 6: I think we got everyone that.
- 1:52:49Speaker 5: We were around the horn, didn't. Yeah.
- 1:52:51Speaker 10: That was a good, good roundabout discussion, good recap for
- 1:52:54Speaker 10: everybody that couldn't make it.
- 1:52:56Speaker 5: Good to relive the fun though.
- 1:52:58Speaker 2: Last sure?
- 1:53:01Speaker 9: Uh the Alpoka vendor, the Alpoka farm vendor.
- 1:53:04Speaker 7: Oh yeah, that was interesting, Like the Apoka for she
- 1:53:09Speaker 7: holy shit, softest thing ever.
- 1:53:12Speaker 9: And humane. They need to be shared and it's not hurtful.
- 1:53:17Speaker 6: That's cool.
- 1:53:18Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. I can tell you Aaron had a
- 1:53:22Speaker 2: good night with one of those, uh two nights ago
- 1:53:25Speaker 2: in Vegas, so he can tell you.
- 1:53:28Speaker 6: He can tell you the rest.
- 1:53:29Speaker 2: But uh uh yeah, I guys, its super fun. I
- 1:53:32Speaker 2: can't wait till the next time we all get to
- 1:53:34Speaker 2: meet up and hang out.
- 1:53:35Speaker 6: Hopefully it's an Austin.
- 1:53:36Speaker 2: That's what I'm gonna try my best to be at
- 1:53:38Speaker 2: I'll see about Sedona, but Austin, I think it is
- 1:53:41Speaker 2: more realistic for me. Yeah, yeah, I think we should
- 1:53:46Speaker 2: hit some some walkout music. What do you guys say?
- 1:53:50Speaker 10: I think at some point I flashed up everybody's YouTube channel.
- 1:53:53Speaker 10: But again, Nick has the Occult Rejects Headless Giant Headless
- 1:53:57Speaker 10: Giant podcast, who also does Sunday Trialogus.
- 1:54:00Speaker 5: Jason the Shaman, Jason is, I'm visitor.
- 1:54:03Speaker 11: I was just a visitor.
- 1:54:07Speaker 5: While I was out, That's true, That's true. And then
- 1:54:11Speaker 5: Jeff up North with the whole up. Y'all got a
- 1:54:13Speaker 5: whole up crew going on a bit which you really wow.
- 1:54:17Speaker 6: Well, I'll get something better in an hour.
- 1:54:20Speaker 5: Comes to you. Oh yeah, getting everything uploaded successfully.
- 1:54:27Speaker 3: Yeah, City is putting it up today. I said, perfect,
- 1:54:32Speaker 3: guys are all home.
- 1:54:33Speaker 5: Yeah true. I think he's going to stagger it an
- 1:54:35Speaker 5: hour from now, just so we all have time to Yeah,
- 1:54:38Speaker 5: sight clues from.
- 1:54:38Speaker 2: This Headless is going to come on the show. U
- 1:54:41Speaker 2: talk about a cult symbolism in pro sports and possibly
- 1:54:46Speaker 2: historical references to.
- 1:54:48Speaker 6: The same thing, So stay tuned for that. I'm really
- 1:54:53Speaker 6: excited about that.
- 1:54:55Speaker 2: And that's the cool part about stuff like this World's collide.
- 1:54:59Speaker 2: I tried to act. This is going to be coming on.
- 1:55:02Speaker 2: We got Cade, the producer and co hosts of Wandering Wolf,
- 1:55:05Speaker 2: stopping next Friday. Nice, I've been coming up super excited
- 1:55:09Speaker 2: about that one tomorrow. Michael Arbuthnot. This dude literally was
- 1:55:14Speaker 2: the last person, or one of the last people diving
- 1:55:17Speaker 2: inside the Titanic. He was there with Robert Shack and
- 1:55:21Speaker 2: John Anthony West when they're diving on Johnna Gooney Monument.
- 1:55:24Speaker 2: He's got a new podcast called Underground. The dude's a
- 1:55:27Speaker 2: total badass. I can't wait for the episode to drop tomorrow.
- 1:55:30Speaker 2: So we've got a big week coming up. And that's
- 1:55:32Speaker 2: just a tip of the iceberg. Here in the multiverse.
- 1:55:34Speaker 2: We've got like four or five bangers in the bank
- 1:55:36Speaker 2: that haven't even been recorded, that aren't even people we
- 1:55:40Speaker 2: interviewed or have set up yet. So stay tuned us.
- 1:55:43Speaker 2: We got a clips channel Multiverse Moments, and hey, let's
- 1:55:48Speaker 2: just keep pumping this community up.
- 1:55:49Speaker 3: You guys.
- 1:55:50Speaker 2: I love this shit. I love having friends with you
- 1:55:53Speaker 2: guys online. So hey, have a great night.
- 1:55:58Speaker 3: We'll kill about this out you guys, thinking see you soon.
- 1:56:03Speaker 1: I hope play this
- 1:56:06Speaker 9: Mm hmm