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Inside The OIG Interview: The Testimony Of The Electrical Engineer From MCC (Part 5) (4/27/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're picking up where we
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  left off with the interview from the electrical engineer at
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  MCC with the olig investigators. Answer, so we had received
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  information saying that the video was attempted to be recovered
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  by the FBI. What was meant by that? Answer? They've
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  got other stuff that they could probably do, But yeah, nothing.
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  Question But did they obtain anything, any hard drives or
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  he gets cut off by the engineer. They took all
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  the hard drives, they took everything. They took the whole recorder,
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  the whole recording system, they took the next day. Question,
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  but there's no way it was recorded. So if they
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  say it was corrupt and it was unable to be retrieved,
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  what does that mean in Layman's terms? Answer, there's no video,
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  it's probably garbage. Question, But there's nothing. Does that just
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  mean that there's no recording? Why would they use the
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  word corrupt? Answer because it's pretty much, you know, a
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  computer is like one to zero, So probably when they
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  finally get to that, they couldn't retrieve anything. Nothing like
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  you could see or make tangible like no real video.
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  Question So that's two different things. Right, It's not like
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  they didn't retrieve anything. It just means they found the file,
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  they couldn't open it. Answer, they couldn't see it. Yes,
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  question that means something recorded. Answer not necessarily. It could
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  be garbage. Garbage can record and you think that's a
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  good thing, but it's not a good thing. It says
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  it was recording. That's why I say that when a
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  camera is good or bad, Like I can have a
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  camera that just looking at this and you're saying, Okay,
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  it's good, but it's not looking at the whole room.
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  This is nothing. This is garbage. It doesn't The camera
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  just knows it. It's working until I fix it, and
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  then it records the whole room. Then you know it's working. Question.
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  When you went in on the tenth to take a
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  look at the video, did you actually see the recording
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  files or did you not see any files at all? Question?
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  I just know the drives were bad, and I think
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  I tried to Yeah, because they were like axed out
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  when they're not working. So you're not going to see
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  any recording files. You'll see live video, but you won't
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  see anything recording. Question. So you use the software answer yeah.
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  Question to try to open the files? Answer yeah. Question,
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  but you didn't actually go in and try to find
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  the actual base files for the recording from that night?
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  Answer no. Question. Okay, So was the camera connected to
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  a network? Answer yeah. Question who had access to that network?
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  Answer mainly whoever had password to look at the night's vision.
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  Usually I give out the password or a computer service.
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  Question at that point, who had access? Answer? I think
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  most of the lieutenants had access, the warden had access,
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  SIS had access, I had access, and I believe computer
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  services and maybe a few staff members here and there.
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  But they just looked at live video, nothing recorded or
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  indiscernible video. Question So that was my next question. Could
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  they have done anything when they logged in to manipulate
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  the video? Answer? No, you can't stop the newer system.
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  You can the old system. You pretty much have to
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  go in there and manually do it. Like you can't
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  just you would have to go on the recorders. I
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  don't think anybody here knew or knows how to do that. Question.
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  Did anyone outside the institution have access? Like because it
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  was on the network, does like someone at the central
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  office anyone have access to it? Answer? From what they
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  told me there's no back doors to it. So question
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  so it was a closed network answer closed, yeah, closed, yeah.
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  And house thing. Question do you know if any situation
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  about came up in the past where it required that
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  someone in the central office needed to log in and
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  see the video and they were able to do it remotely?
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  Answer no, I don't know if the old system the
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  new system you can do that. The old system, I'm
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  not sure. I don't believe anybody from the region or
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  anybody saw video on the old system. Question as far
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  as when you left on August ninth, you knew that
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  a number of the cameras were down. When you came
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  back on August tenth, do you know if it was
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  the same cameras that were down. Answer yes, it was
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  the same area cameras that went down. It's the same recorder.
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  He gets cut off by the investigator. So there weren't
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  additional cameras that were down. Answer no, they would go
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  down and come back up. No question. All right, So
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  when you left on August ninth it stopped recording, No
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  additional cameras went down. Answer no. Question between August ninth
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  and August tenth, when you were returned answer yes. Question
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  all right, And did you do you know if anyone
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  had access to those cameras from six am to let's
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  say ten am on August tenth. Answer, well, I left
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  probably two that afternoon. I don't believe that there's anybody
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  that would have to go into that room to do anything.
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  Question were you in that room almost the whole time? Answer? Yeah.
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  Question do you know of anybody else that went into
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  that room? Answer? Just the SIS tech that was there,
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  but he doesn't go in the back room. He usually
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  goes in the front room. Question okay. Answer and when
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  he leaves, that's pretty much it. There's no reason for
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  anybody to go in the back room. It's their evidence
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  room too, so they kind of don't let just anybody,
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  you know, just walk back there. Question after the incident,
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  were you the first person back there? Question? Yeah, I
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  believe so. And nothing looked hampered with. It all looked
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  like the day when I left it. It looked the
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  same way. Question and it's SIS Tech that was back there.
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  His name is redacted. Answer yeah, I believe so. Question
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  can you spell it? Answer redacted? He's retired now. Question
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  the only camera that you said was over that door
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  in the shoe when you viewed it, was it granny
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  or was it a good view? Answer? Eh, I look
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  at the cameras enough. I can make out something. Most
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  people would say it was grainy. But you can make
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  out enough if you see anything that was going on.
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  Question Okay, I've got nothing more on that line. Question okay,
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  now on July twenty third. July twenty third, that's before
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  question No, sorry, I take it back. Talk about the
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  phones now. Answer okay. As part of your job, right,
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  do you maintain the phones in the system. Answer yeah,
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  I do the phone switch or the PBX, I maintain that.
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  Question as part do you recall after this incident? What
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  was the preservation done of the phone recordings? Answer? I
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  believe my warden at the time asked me to look
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  up to see who was making phone calls or who
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  possibly in the shoe was getting phone calls that night.
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  And I did find something. Question this is Warden redacted?
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  Answer yes, question and you did find something? Answer yes,
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  question what did you find? Answer? It was a phone
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  call on the tier that they believe Epstein was taking
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  a shower, because I guess he got a shower and
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  somebody gave him a phone call. I believe they found
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  the phone call. That's what I believe. I'm not too
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  sure who did that, but there was a phone call made.
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  Question did you provide a copy of that over answer yes,
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  question to the DOJ. Answer No, I gave it to
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  my actual supervisor. To the warden question was that a
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  recorded call? Answer no, it was just a log to
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  see how long the call was. Like when the call
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  starts and when it ends. There's no recording. It's a
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  legal call, so legal calls are protected. You can't give
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  you know out the legal call information. Question okay, answer
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  or question again by another investigator, but you see who
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  dialed it and how long it was on? Question Now,
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  is every phone in the facility recorded other than the
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  legal calls? Answer the inmate phones are recorded. Yes. Question
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  what about from co to co? Answer no, that was
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  not recorded. Question none of the Let's just say an
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  inmate has access can get to the cophone if they
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  make a phone call. Answer, well, you try not to
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  give them access to it. Question but they're never recorded
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  for any reason? Answer nah. Question so when the shoe
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  is talking with control or Control is talking with R
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  and D, those calls aren't recorded. Answer No, there's just
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  a log to see how long the call was, the duration,
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  But that's pretty much it. What phone picked up and
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  what phone hung up? Question are those logs maintained? Answer? Yes?
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  Question for how long? Answer? I just had this a
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  little while ago, probably like a month. Question that's all
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  it is? Answer? That's all it is. Yeah. Question do
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  you recall if that was ever a copy of all
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  that log for the day? Answer? Yeah, I believe I
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  gave a copy to somebody, somebody with access, so I'm
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  pretty sure I gave them call logs with every thing.
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  Question so this is back then? Answer? Yeah, I gave
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  logs call logs. Question do you recall if it was
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  all of August ninth or tenth? Or was it just four?
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  He gets caught off by the engineer? It was probably
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  a few days. Question do you still maintain those since
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  you gave them? Answer? No, I just gave them no
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  reason for me to hold on to them. Question so
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  you physically gave it to them as opposed to via
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  email or anything? Answer? Nah, did I scan them? I
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  might have emailed them, I'm not too sure. Question can
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  you do us a favor when you're done? Can you
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  just check your out box around those dates? And see
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  if you have those logged. Answer okay, question you don't
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  recall who provided it to you? Right? Answer SIS? Whoever
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  is in charge of SIS. They were asking me for
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  the phone logs. Question all right, so SIS would give
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  them then answer yes. Question okay, answer if you want,
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  it's on that line. Question No, that's so. No, So
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  only inmate calls are recorded. No staff member calls. Answer No,
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  staff member calls are recorded. Question and that's throughout the
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  institution answer yes. Question okay, what about coming in and
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  out of the institution? Are those recorded? Answer? What what
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  do you mean? Question? So, if like R and D
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  is speaking with a cord or the marshals, would they
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  be recording? Answer no, that's not recorded. No question so
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  nothing coming in and out? Answer no. I just when
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  the inmates are talking on the phone, their phone calls
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  are recorded because they get that little warning to say,
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  you know you're being recorded. But that's about it. Question
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  And I thought when I called BOP facilities that it
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  did say that this line's being recorded. Is that not
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  the case? Answer? No question okay, answer yes, sometimes but
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  they throw it in there, but it's not the case.
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  Question okay, anything else on that I'm gonna move on.
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  Answer no, All right, folks, we're gonna wrap up right
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  here too, And in the next episode dealing with the topic,
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  we're gonna pick up where we left off. All the
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