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Supreme Court Confirms Presidential Immunity In Certain Cases · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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The news, opinions, commentary, and interviews. You need to start your
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day, and you're listening to the West Carrol Morning Show. Tuesday morning,
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a second day of July. I'm West thanks for joining me. It's the
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day John Adams said would be the day we'd be celebrating our nation's independence for
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all time. It would be a maybe not for all time, but for
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a long time for the future. Because it was the day they decided we
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were going to move forward with this, and then the fourth they did move
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forward with it. And then they had to spend a long time, I
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don't know, weeks months carting the thing around to get people to sign it.
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On horseback. I don't know. How do they do it on a
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horseback? Is? What do they do? Paul Revere style? How did
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they get it moved from? I guess just on horseback somebody galloping around and
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John Hancock went nuts, and you know the rest. You know the story,
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you know how it went. But it's a big day here on this
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second of July. It's worth remembering this was an important day, right,
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It's worth noting that. It's worth remembering. It not really the day that
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John Adams foresaw, but it's still a pretty big deal. Yesterday was a
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big deal. No, not because it was Canada Day. That's a big
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deal for Canadians. You know, we've got some partial Canadians around here.
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I often speak about my wife being Australian. What I don't often talk about
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is the fact that her mom was actually born in Canada. So when I
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refer to my you know, half Australian children, they're actually a quarter Canadian
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and a quarter Australian. But you know, their mom was born in Australia,
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so technically she's Australian. But now she's a citizen here and they were
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born here. So you do all the math you want to do with it.
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I'm just pointing out the fact that we got some you know, Canadian
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running her in this house. That's all I'm saying. We've got some of
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that whole British Commonwealth thing. And so it was that day yesterday, all
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right. So here's here's the big day. Here's what really happened yesterday in
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more modern history, is that the Supreme Court had their ruling. Mostly it
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went Trump's way. A lot of frustrated folks on the left, a lot
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of angry folks on the left folks that were hoping to I mean, I
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don't know what you call it other than interfere with the election, because that
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was when you go into a situation and this is one of those deals where
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they start talking about, you know, Trump is not above the law,
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and he had to face the consequences in his and I mean to even call
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it a hush money trial, that's not really what it was. It was
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really more of a trial of out how he logged some expenses. And again
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we've talked about this on the show. A lot of other politicians have done
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this with their expenses over the years, campaign money and things. Obama had
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some that they couldn't quite figure out where it was, and he had to
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pay a fine. There was a situation, and I guess they eventually found
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it, but yeah, I don't know, I don't know the history of
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that. I know that it was like one point eight or one point nine
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million that they couldn't account for or they you know, it was a bookkeeping
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error. Maybe that eventually they figured it out, but yeah, he he
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had to pay a fine. Hillary Clinton had to pay a fine because she
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paid for that Steele dossier out of campaign money or how it was logged or
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whatever. You know, she had to pay a fine, slap on the
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wrist, misdemeanor, no big deal. But with Trump, of course,
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it all had to get escalated and elevated and made into the you know,
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the biggest crime in history of criminality. Maybe a little bit of hyperbole.
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It's the time of hyperbole. This last week has been very hyperbolic because for
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all of the talk of Trump's lies, Oh, the man just lied through
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his teeth all during that debate, and that's why he should step down and
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not Biden. Biden should stay there. But Trump, Oh, he had
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the hyperbole, which is like lying. That's what basically I guess how they
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interpreted it. And then Biden, you know, told some actual lies during
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the debate. I assume Trump probably had a couple in there too. I
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didn't hear any actual boy Trump lied when he said this, this, and
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this. Maybe some people broke those down. I've seen a few people doing
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that with the things that Biden said. But anyway, we got some lying
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to cover coming up in just a few minutes though, because we're going to
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get to the line. But a little hyperbolic to call this, you know,
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the decision of the ages or whatever. I mean, it's pretty significant.
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It's a big decision when it comes to presidential authority in America. Now
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here's the deal. This is kind of what it's always been as a president
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has been in the past when executing the office. And you know, from
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the constitutional standpoint, if you're executing the office of president, you're not going
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to get prosecuted for doing that. And the questions with some of this,
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obviously with some of these cases against Trump, or whether or not some of
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the things that he was doing fall under that category, and whether or not
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his conversations with the vice president. I mean, if you're the president and
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you're talking with the vice president, you could probably make a case that whatever
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you were doing was within the confines of being the president. But you know
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that's going to get pushed down. That's one of the rulings from yesterday is
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that has to still go back down to the lower courts. So let's figure
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out how this worked. This is basically what it said under our constitutional structure,
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separated the nature of presidential power entitles a former president to absolute immunity from
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criminal prosecution for acting actions within the conclusive and preclusive constitutional authority that was the
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case before. All they did was rule that, yes, that's the case,
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all right, more on their decision. And he is entitled to at
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least presumptive immunity from prosecution for all his official acts. There is no immunity
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for unofficial acts. So that's what was written. So here we go.
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Here's where some of this kind of breaks down a little bit, and I
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guess we'll do a little This is from the Chief Justice. Certain allegations,
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such as those involving Trump's discussions with the acting Attorney General and readily categorized in
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light of the nature of the president's official relationship to the office held by that
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individual. Other allegations, such as those involving Trump's interactions with the vice president,
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state official, and certain private parties, and his comments to the general
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public, present more difficult questions. Okay, So Trump went to social media
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to call it a big win for our constitution and democracy. Proud to be
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an American, of course, folks on the left, not so much.
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From the Biden campaign. Donald Trump snapped after he lost the twenty twenty election
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and encouraged a mob to overthrow the results of a free and fair election.
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Trump is already running for president as a convicted felon for the very same reason
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he sat oddly by while the mob violently attacked the capital. He thinks that
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he's above the law and he's willing to do anything to gain and hold on
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to power for himself. First of all, No, he's a convicted felon,
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had nothing to do with the capitol. It's nice that they're trying to
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lump those together again, little sneaky, but basically no, Oh, it's
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because they were looking for a reason to try to give him some sort of
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federal charge, and they elevated this to a felony. They wanted to indict
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him on this for this felony that should have been a misdemeanor outside statute of
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limitations. They did a grab, has nothing to do with the capital.
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They also said Trump has grown more unhinged since January sixth, twenty twenty one,
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and he's promised to be a dictator on day one. Also a lie,
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and I mean technically, but he was doing it in a joking way,
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and he says that it would be things will be a blood bath if
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he loses. He was talking about car manufacturing in China, and he was
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talking about the auto industry when he said it would be a blood bath if
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he loses that it would be a terrible thing, and a blood bath or
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the auto industry in America if he were to lose. He didn't promise a
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blood bath on American citizens. He didn't promise anything of the sort. That's
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a lie, that's not accurate, that is at best misrepresentative. This is
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like a child walking into the room and hey, if a mom says it's
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okay, you think it's okay, right dad? Yeah, yeah, Hey,
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mom, dad said it's okay. It's one of those little con jobs
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that you're running back and forth. He didn't promise a blood bath on American
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citizens. He promised a blood bath in the auto industry. They know it,
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but I think they believe that if they say it enough. It's like
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OJ saying he's out looking for the real killer. You say it enough,
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maybe you start to believe it. I don't know, I don't really know.
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I don't know. Anyway, it's it's and also to uh basically say
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that he promised to be a dictator, and he basically said I'll be a
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dictator on day one. As I'm undoing the things concerning the border and undoing
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as many of the things as I can that by executive order that Biden has
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ruined since he took over. I didn't promise to be a dictator. He
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at no point said I'm going to seize power of America and take over all
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of that. Untrue. But again, we're running this campaign based on two
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things. They're saying that he lies all the time and that he's a threat
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to democracy. So one of the most important things about the country, and
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our founders understood this one of the things that meant the most concerning our And
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you can put all the adjecties in and I know people have. This has
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been a focal point. It was briefly. I think it's kind of gone
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away, But this use of a threat to democracy America being a constitutional,
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democratic republic, I mean, you want to really get in there. Technically
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you roll in. There's a bunch of adjectives you get in there that help
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define exactly what our government is. But the founders knew what was important for
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us was this balance of power between our lawmakers, those that execute the law,
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and our judges who rule over the law. And that's where the Supreme
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Court has come in on this and again, some of the same people on
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the left who have been saying, hey, this is Trump's not above the
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law, and that's what the ruling from the court is. You got to
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listen to the ruling of the court and if they say it, that's it.
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How can these Supreme Court jerk say that this is the law, this
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is a fair without understanding or appreciating there's all sorts of irony there. Look,
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oh, they're in for one side not the other. What do we
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think is going on in these Trump indictments. You've got people that have political
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ties. The way that our system works with our Supreme Court is Look,
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when you're president, you get to put people in there. That's what you
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get to do. Trump was in a position where he got to put three
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justices in. You want to be mad about that. Be mad at Ruth
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Bader Ginsburg. She's the one who with a lot of hope. I mean,
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I'm trying to give her benefit of the doubt, a little bit of
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arrogance. Hey, Hillary Clinton will be the one to replace me. Sorry,
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Brock, I'm not gonna let you do it. I'm gonna let Hillary
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do it when she's president. She lost Democrats lost that seat liberals lost that
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seat to a conservative. That's the reason we have the current balance that we
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have. This is going to continue to be a focal point, by the
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way, because it's about saving the democracy. This is about integrity. We
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have a liar that was a former president who's running. He's a convicted felon
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abortion. Seems to be getting pushed further back, but it's in there.
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But I think somewhere in the middle of all that will now be this focus
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on we have to get more liberal Supreme Court justices. AOC by the way,
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says that whenever they finish, they're off because of the holiday this week,
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and whenever they get back, she says that she's going to start filing
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impeachment articles against Supreme Court justices. Okay, so that's apparently how that's going
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to that's the threat. Anyway, it's a weird threat to make. I
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don't really understand. The law has been the law. The only ruling is
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this is the law. This is what's happened. Now. Some of these
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things could be hurdles for Trump later. This is not a complete slam dunk
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win for Donald Trump. Maybe the biggest thing though, and this is where
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we really should spend a little bit of time. Is that basically the courts
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say that you were not allowed to use your interpretation of the things that the
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president says or does as a basis for prosecution. So what's been happening on
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the whole January sixth thing concerning the capital is this accusation that well, Trump
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said go to the Capitol peacefully, But we know what he meant. We
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know what he really meant when he said that he was telling people to go
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in there and tear the place up. He was saying, go in there
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and create an insurrection. We know what he meant. We know what he
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meant when he said there was going to be a blood bath. That was
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a wink wink, hint, hint, I'm gonna kill a bunch of people.
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He wasn't saying about the Automa. Sure it was in the context of
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that, and he specifically said that, but we know what he meant.
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We know what he meant with Charlottesville when he said the skinhead in the Nazis
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are not good people, but the people that were there to protest or support
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the statues, there were some good people on both sides there. We know
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he really meant the skinheads and Nazis. We know what he meant when he
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said, yeah, I'll be a dictator as I get in there and undo
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all the things that Biden ruined, and I get the oil flowing and get
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the border closed. Yeah, if you want to call that a dictator,
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we know what he really meant. We know what he meant. When some
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person that was a supporter made a video that showed Trump gets reelected and they
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used some newspaper clippings that had some little snippets from World War II in the
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background and it said something about the Third Reich on it, Trump is telling
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us in code wink wink, we know what he meant. He meant that.
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Yay, Hitler, we know what he meant. So you can't do
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that. You can't do that, and they're taking that away from them.
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So part of all of this falls into that. So what's happened now is
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some of these cases that Democrats were putting all of their eggs in the basket
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of We're going to keep him tied up in all these courts. We're going
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to keep him from being able to campaign, We're going to keep him from
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being able to be out in the public. We're going to have him tied,
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and we're going to be able to say, look, he is in
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court again. Oh, he is in court again. He's a criminal.
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He's already a felon and he's a criminal, and he's going back to court
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again. That was the strategy. And now it certainly seems that the rest
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of the cases against him will be pushed back. And they truly had these
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things timed out. Man, they had him timed out. This was all
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very planned and strategic. You want to be mad about the Supreme Court justices
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and the fact that there's more conservatives there than liberals, But when you got
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judges at these other levels that are able to orchestrate and coordinate, and you're
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able to take somebody from the Justice Department on the federal level and send them
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to work in a DA's office in New York and say he's going to go
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over there and work for a while. There's no connection between the Justice Department
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and that guy just wanted this huge demotion in his job. We'll see where
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he ends up after all this. Is he going to stay put there or
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is he magically going to end up back somewhere else. I suspect he'll probably
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be somewhere else. So anyway, this is where we are. It's going
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to get pushed back. We're in a position now where basically all Democrats have
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at this point is going to be the sentencing for Trump, which is coming
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up, and we're going to find out what. And by the way,
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one of the other side effects of yesterday's ruling, this one's important because part
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of the case against Trump in the hush money trial involves some of the things
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that he said while president to another member of the White House staff, and
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that was testimony against him, which cannot be used in this context. So
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yeah, Trump's lawyers already filing to have it thrown out. The guilty verdict
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should be blown up because of that. It should be because you can't use
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it against him, So the guilty verdict should go away. And if they
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want to, you know, I don't know what they would do at that
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point. That's all they got, that's everything. Felon. I'm sure the
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judge isn't going to do that. He's going to get to a point where
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the last ditch thing that they can possibly do is the sentencing. What can
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they do? Can they put him in jail, can they try to lock
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him up and put him away so that he can't get out there in campaign.
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Would that be a good strategic move? Would that backfire on them the
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way all these other things have backfired, almost certainly. But we'll see how
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this plays out in the weeks and then of course months, because there's still
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more and more cries. Biden says, not going anywhere, or I guess
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his wife is the one who's saying it. You have a bad performance at
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a debate, and then like three days later, your wife is on the
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cover of Vogue magazine. And you know, I thought Vogue was like a
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fashion magazine, wasn't it. Remember that used to be what it was,
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And then I don't know, at some point it just became this you know,
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all politics thing. Rolling Stone used to be about music, I think
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about it. MTV used to actually play music videos. So all of it's
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really confusing. But just within a matter of days, they got the first
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lady on the cover of Vogue magazine. Everything's great, wonderful. No,
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we're not going anywhere, we're staying put. We're staying right where they are.
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They got that thing cranked out fast, didn't they. They were ready.
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They had her all celebrating and jumping in the air on the cover of
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the magazine. Oh boy, she was loving it. So they say she's
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not going anywhere. Gretchen Whitmer says, nope, Biden's not going to be
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able to win Michigan. Now, just forget it. I mean, she's
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one of the people whose name keeps popping up as if he did step aside,
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maybe it would be her. She says she doesn't want it. Gavin
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Newsom says, it's not going to be me. I mean, he has
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said that repeatedly. I do suspect that if someone went to him and said
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you want it, he would be yes. He's already Last year he went
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to the White House and they took a bunch of pictures of him walking around
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at the White House when Biden wasn't there. Was it last year? Two
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years ago? He went and he walked around and sat at the desk and
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took all these pictures looking outside and tried to look presidential. He's been planning
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it for a while. That's been the hope, that's been the dream,
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right, that's been the whole goal. So I can't imagine that he would
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say no. Reverend Rkele, Senator Reverend Reverend Senator wherever they call him,
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Rafael Warnock, he is one of the names that's popped up like he would
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be that one of the guys that I'll take it, let me go do
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it. Let's separate church and state and let Senator Reverend Warnock Arkele go in
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there and be the president or at least the candidate. A lot of experts
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saying that they would be in a really bad shape if they decided to replace
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him at any point, that they're out of time, it's too late to
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do that, and it will be a disaster. Doesn't mean that they won't
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only does Costco have good deals, they also have like a wine and liquor
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selection in their wine and liquor stores. All right. So this is then
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the reason for bringing up Costco is that we have some research that relates to
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states and their preferences from Costco stores. So a new study found that Alabama,
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Arkansas, Colorado, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Indiana, and Nebraska are the
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states that prefer cheap whiskey. I guess from those stores. Arizona, Missouri,
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California, New Jersey, Wisconsin. Or vodka states Delaware, Idaho,
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South Dakota, Utah, Minnesota, Tennessee, Virginia, Oklahoma, Oregon,
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Pennsylvania go for the gin and Georgia and Illinois prefer rum. Florida and West
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Virginia are tequila states. And then for wine states, here's I guess the
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rest of them. I'll Aska, Hawaii, Iowa, Kentucky, Maryland,
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Montana, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota, and Wyoming. So
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there you go. Yeah, Rum does. Georgia It doesn't feel like a
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rum state, but I guess it is. And Alabama going for the whiskey.
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So and finally, some researchers at the University of Alabama believe the ability
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to jump to warp speed and travel nearly the speed of light might be closer
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than we think. In the report, the scientists explaining things like stable matter
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shift vectors and the Alcuberry metric, and looked ahead at ways to create an
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engine that could power us through the galaxy or the universe. For that matter.
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Right, we'll see how long it takes for the theories to be applied
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to actual spacecraft in some capacity and whether or not that happens in our lifetime
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or not. But they're working on it. I thought we were going to
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have, you know, rocket packs by this point, or flying cars at
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least that everybody drove. I mean, can we get to that first and
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then worry about all this other stuff. I mean, I like the idea
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of being able to go at high speeds into deep space just sending probes out
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to study, But I mean I'd like to get to the rocket packs and
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the flying cars that I'll do it for this Tuesday edition of the show.
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