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BONUS EPISODE: Pgh Sports Current Events - November 13, 2025 · Pittsburgh Sports Memories

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_02: Hello and welcome to another uh losing edition of Pittsburgh Sports Memories Current Events.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_02: Uh we do this uh once a week during football season just for fun.
• 0:11
  SPEAKER_02: Um as usual, I'm your co-host, Steve Wirt, and I'm joined by I'm Tim Hannon.
• 0:18
  SPEAKER_02: And uh we'll we'll start with uh Penguins hockey since they're kind of having success.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_02: Um uh they lost to the Kings three to two, and it was another third period collapse.
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_02: Um, this seems to be a trend from last year, although I'll say three to two isn't like like last year where they were giving up like six or seven goals, it seemed.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_02: Um I I'm not sure why.
• 0:42
  SPEAKER_02: There's a different coach now, and it seems like they're following his strategy a little better.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_02: Um still lots of odd man chances from the highlights I watch.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_02: So I mean while things change, not much things stay the same.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_02: That's your good old penguins.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_02: They seem to love giving up odd man chances.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_02: And um, the new goalie started, he didn't look bad.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_02: I can't pronounce his Russian name.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_02: Can you pronounce his name, Tim?
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Marishov.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_02: Marishov.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, there we go.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_02: So we got two of the most impronounceable names in goal right now.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_02: Sheelhovs and Marishov and Khrushchev and Brishnagoff, and I don't know who else.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_02: Stalin.
• 1:24
  SPEAKER_02: I I don't know.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um Stalin would have been a great goalie.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you just would have got shot if you scored.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_02: It's like when Putin plays hockey.
• 1:34
  SPEAKER_02: It's kind of like Pew, he really does play hockey, it's not as fake as like uh Kim Jong ung playing golf.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_00: But the opponents are fake.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, they're they're they're real people, but it's like they everybody just kind of is like, oh, oh no, the goalie's like, oh no, he scored another goal.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_02: Anyway, um he uh let's see, four, three, and three in the last ten games, but that's not as good.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_02: That looks respectable, but they are one, three, and one in the last five.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_02: So uh that's kind of a problem.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_02: Um the Penguins record overall is still nine and five and three.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_02: They're 21 points.
• 2:15
  SPEAKER_02: They're now in third place, but don't feel too bad because they're only one point behind the Devils and Hurricanes.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_02: Um, they're probably gonna need to turn it around a little bit here and get back to their winning ways if they have any plans of making the playoffs.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_02: I think I've said this rule before.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_02: You know, normally where you finish at in the standings around Thanksgiving is where you finish at at the end of the year.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know why that is in hockey, but it seems it like nine times out of ten that that seems to work out.
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_02: So we'll see where the penguins are in what two more weeks.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, there's literally a statistic for that, and it is something like nine times out of ten.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, it it's a young team.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_00: That like they that's two games in a row where they blew a third period lead, but again, it's a young team.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_00: And it's gonna be one of those, like it's it's just gonna be an up and down season, I think.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, again, no none of us were expecting nine and five.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody was expecting like tank for McKenna.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_00: And so, I mean, yeah, we'll see what happens.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, I hope they they do.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_02: I kind of would have liked them to see him make the playoffs.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_02: Like Crosby and Malkin are getting up there, and I mean, I don't even know if they'd make a run, quite honestly.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_02: They might get blown out in the first round, but you never know.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_02: You get in the playoffs, it's like any playoff, you get in, just getting in, you know, you never know what can happen.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_02: Especially like let's say that rookie goaltender gets hot.
• 3:37
  SPEAKER_02: You know, that that's the big equalizer in hockey is your goal goaltending.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_02: So um, in other penguins news, and I know Tim is really excited about this.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_02: Um, the 30th anniversary of sudden death is happening this year.
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, Christmas week of 1995.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_02: Uh sudden death was released.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's a cinematic masterpiece.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, Powers Booth, uh, John Claude Van Damme, terrorist in the civic arena, Paul Staggeroiled swearing.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_02: What else could you ask for there, Tim?
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_00: I um I just went and saw in a movie theater last week the 40th anniversary release of Back to the Future.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_02: Uh oh, they did it again.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_02: Oh man.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_02: I saw it at the um, I think I saw that in 2015.
• 4:22
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 4:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they did it again for the 40th.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_00: Uh oh at the at the well, a couple of theaters, but we we saw it at the one up at um waterworks.
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's fun.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_00: But but if they I I don't think they'll probably be putting sudden death back in theaters if I do this.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe Howard Baldwin's really broke.
• 4:41
  unknown: Yeah.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_02: Uh so that stands the hockey portion of our current events here.
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_02: So let's get into football Palooza.
• 4:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_02: Um, in college, uh, Pitt was off, so no real big news there.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_02: Um, they're gonna play Notre Dame in a big game on Saturday.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_02: And um in other good news, uh College Game Day will be here.
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_02: Um, Pat McAfee will be here.
• 5:07
  SPEAKER_02: Uh they're taking a break from their SEC schedule.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_02: I guess they got sick of visiting Old Miss in Alabama every other week, so they're they're coming up here.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_02: Um you you go in like it's always funny, like when they go to any other college campus, there's like a million people, but when they come to Pitt, there'll be like five people milling around.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I mean, they don't even come on campus either.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_02: Like, they they go down by the stadium, which I never understood.
• 5:33
  SPEAKER_02: Like, shouldn't they be doing that in Oakland?
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, that that would make the most sense, I would think.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but that's not where the game is.
• 5:40
  SPEAKER_02: So it's but they don't always like I think in the other colleges they don't do it right by the stadium.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_00: But the other colleges, the stadium's still on campus.
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_00: Either way, it's it's exciting.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_02: Uh Penn State lost to Indiana.
• 5:55
  SPEAKER_02: What are they, three and six now?
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_02: Uh WVU won over the fighting Deion Sanders, otherwise known as the University of Colorado.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_02: Um, they keep their bowl hopes alive.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_02: So, like I kind of thought WVU would go this year, go this way, they would be kind of bad early and they get better as the year goes on.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_02: Because as much as you might not like Rich Rodriguez, he is a good coach, so he knows how to put a football team together.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_02: Um, and by the way, fun fact Deion Sanders has been bowl ineligible at Colorado too out of the three years he's been there.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_02: So um, yeah, he's got that going for him.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_02: Um, let's start, let's get into the Steelers here.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_02: We'll start with the Steelers.
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_02: Are they gonna draft a quarterback in 2026, Tim?
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so uh this was interesting.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_00: I started thinking about this this week.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_02: Um because they might well, they're kind of at point break, huh, with five wins.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_02: If they win more games, they're gonna fall out of the top ten, that's for sure.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_02: Which they probably are.
• 6:55
  SPEAKER_02: I can't see them winning less than seven games this year.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_00: Correct.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like I think I think we're at the point in the season where the draft order, it's not totally set, but you you have a it's pretty it's directionally correct.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_00: And and when you look at the if you look at the list of who's probably gonna draft in front of us, there's a whole bunch of teams in front of us that will need quarterbacks.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_00: So that's not good for the Steelers because that means we're gonna we're gonna be looking at like the seventh or so potentially best quarterback, depending on how much of a run there is on quarterbacks.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_00: Not everybody that needs a quarterback is necessarily gonna take one in the first round.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_00: And there's free agency, and you know, look at like the you know, somebody signed Sam Darnold last year, somebody said uh the Raiders traded for Geno Smith.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_00: Like there'll be other things that happen that aren't draft picks, but it just doesn't really bode well for the Steelers getting their quarterback of the future because um there's just so many teams in front of us that need a quarterback.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_02: So uh fair enough, yeah.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_02: So we said Jets, yeah, they're probably gonna draft a quarterback, especially after that crazy owner ripped on uh Justin Fields.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_02: It was funny, he ripped on Justin Fields, and then that week Justin Fields had like a 300-yard passing game.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_02: So maybe maybe that's what Justin Fields need is a little bit of a kick of the butt.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and then last week he had like 56 yards passing, so apparently that only worked for only works against the Bengals.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_02: Well, well, the Bengals make everybody look good, I guess.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_02: Um uh the Raiders, uh Gito Smith and Kenny Pickett probably aren't gonna hack it there, huh?
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_00: The Saints.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_02: The Saints, yeah, we are kind of debating over the Saints.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_02: I think I meant to say yes, they will be drafting a quarterback because definitely Spencer Ratliff stinks.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_02: But I'm not sure about this Tyler, what's his name?
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_02: Show, yeah.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they might get a big thing.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_02: I'd be shocked.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_02: I'd be shocked.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, he is 26, but that's not I mean, that's like Penny Kenny Pickett age.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_02: I I don't know.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_02: Browns, do you think the Browns will be drafting a quarterback again?
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I I I don't know.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_02: I guess.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_00: You think you think that they're really comfortable with Dylan Gabriel as their future?
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_02: But they have that Sanders kid.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_00: You think they're really comfortable with Shader Sanders as their future?
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_02: Well, that's why he's the backup, because they are Yeah.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_02: Dylan Gabriel, like, I never thought he was all that great.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_02: I never like it.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_00: And he's proven you're right.
• 9:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I thought he might be a backup, but I never I don't know.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_02: His arm, his arm strength just isn't that great, and he's he's kind of short, quite honestly.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_02: He's like he's a discount Baker Mayfield, quite honestly.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_00: They also have Jacksonville's first round pick.
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_00: Cleveland.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_00: No, wow.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_00: And right now, Jacksonville's right around where we are.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_00: So so you know, it's that's even more the reason why I think they're gonna draft a quarterback because they they have two picks, so they don't have to take quarterback or bust.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, Dolphins, by the way.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_02: We forgot about the Dolphins.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_02: I guess they're gonna part ways.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_00: They'll probably move on from two uh Cardinals will probably move on from Kyler.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's a weird one.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't know, I didn't think he was playing that badly, but I guess you know, with what uh they have that veteran Brissett playing, so I guess they figure so what's that?
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_00: We named like seven or eight teams.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's that's what I mean.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_02: I think one, two, three, four, five teams bare minimum.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_02: Like that's conservatively like seven teams possibly.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_00: So so the Steelers might be looking at uh I don't know, some kind of different path forward, which kind of stinks because you were really hoping for a quarterback.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_00: One one really harebrained scheme idea that I had.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_00: So you we talked about Kyler Murray.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_00: Do you remember the circumstances of when the Cardinals drafted Kyler Murray?
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_02: No, I don't.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_00: So they had the number one pick in the draft in whatever year that was, 2018, 2019.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_00: And the year before, they had selected a first round quarterback.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_00: They had selected Josh Rosen.
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_02: That guy was bad.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_02: I don't he looked like see, he's the opposite of Kyler Murray.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_02: He looks like an NFL quarterback, but he's not very good.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and everybody was like, well, they have the first pick, but they're not going to draft the the top quarterback.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_00: They'll probably trade it because they just drafted a quarterback and they drafted a quarterback anyway, and then they traded Rosen to I think Miami for like a second or third round pick.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_02: That would actually ended up being a very smart move because Kyler Murray's at least been mediocre.
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yes, it was a smart move.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_00: So so my harebrain scheme is I wonder, I just wonder in the back of my head if the Titans, who might have the number one overall pick again or close to it, would take the same route.
• 11:53
  SPEAKER_02: Trade, trade, oh Cam Ward.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_02: Oh okay.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_00: He's been bad.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_02: He's been bad, but the Titans are a bad team, unfortunately.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_02: But once again, I don't think their defense is terrible again.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_02: It's just their offense is a total disaster.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and then they fired their coach, and they're a poorly run franchise.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_00: So like the Cardinals.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_00: So would they would they consider because I really, really liked Cam Ward coming out of college.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_00: Like he was a guy that I was really thought he's he's very Benroth's for great.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_02: So this would be the this would be the opposite of uh what's it called?
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_00: Josh Rosen, yeah.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_00: This would be this would be the the Titans trading us Cam Ward for like a second or third round pick because they have the number one pick and they really want Mendoza or whoever from for who's ever the hot college quarterback.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_00: I I think that has about a 1% chance actually happening.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_00: But it just made me think the c it it there's precedent.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_00: The Cardinals did that with Kyler.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_00: The Cardinals are like, well, we drafted a kid in the first round, but we really like this other kid coming out of college and we just can't pass him up.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_00: So we'll bail we'll jump ship early and take the other guy.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_00: And uh it could happen.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_00: And I think Cam Ward could still be a good quarterback if you put him in a decent offense, if you put him with good coaches, you didn't fire his coach four weeks into the season.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_00: I think he I think he's capable.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um again, like I said, one percent chance of happening, but I'm I'm clutching at straws here, Steve, because I don't see a real good path to the Stewart's getting their quarterback to the future.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_02: Aaron Rodgers for the second year.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_02: He's not been terrible.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_02: Well, we'll talk about that next.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, minus minus last week.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_00: He's been pretty good, but it's it at some point we just like we gotta move forward.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_02: What do they call diminishing returns?
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_02: I I think that's what you're probably getting into.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and it's just how many years are we just gonna keep piecing together a team?
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_00: We like we we and we're we're doing good with on mostly with the rest of the team with young players.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_00: We talked about that last week, and you have Peyton Wilson and you have Jalen Warren and you have uh the the offensive linemen.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_00: Like some of these recent draft picks are starting to develop, starting to build a team.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_00: So again, I just keep comparing it to the early 2000s.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_00: It was the same trajectory, and what brought it all together was drafting the quarterback.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_00: That's what brought it all together.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_00: That's when they started really going from like middle of the road to Super Bowl contender and then Super Bowl winner.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_00: And that's what they need to do now, and that's where, like I said, I I have some concern about next year's draft because it's feeling like um they're not gonna have a shot at much.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_00: Now, here's another thing to think about, Steve.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_00: My my brother mentioned this to me.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_00: How far do you think Drew Aller falls because of the injury?
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_02: That somebody mentioned that to me the other day.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_02: That's a good question.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_00: And and would you want Drew Aller?
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure that I do.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't know.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_02: I haven't watched him much, quite honestly.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_02: And it's tough to judge he's in like there that's like not the greatest offensive system they have out there at Unhappy Valley right now.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_02: Because like I don't think they have like any wide receivers.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, he would fit in well here then.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, we don't have any either.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_02: So I don't know.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_02: I it would be fun to rip on him all the time because then you know it would be interesting if they did draft him just from this standpoint.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_02: I wonder if people would treat him like because there's so many Penn State fans here, if they would treat him with like kid gloves here, like he would get the Kenny Pikmin treatment that like well, you know what I mean.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_00: I that would be interesting.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_00: And like and it's just a thought because he might he might fall.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_02: It would be fun to expose the Penn State fans.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's always fun to make them look like the hypocrites they are.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_02: Whoops, they said out loud.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_02: Um anyway, uh the Steelers lose to the Chargers um 25 to 10.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_02: Another West Coast lost to him.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_02: Actually, they were 7-2 before this game.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_02: They had had he had a bad record to 2019 and he kind of righted the shift.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_02: So I guess they're seven and three now.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_02: Um Rogers threw two interceptions and a safety.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_02: I would I didn't see the last interception, but that's right, it was tipped, wasn't it?
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but Austin's hands.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so I don't blame him for that, but the safety was was terrible.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, and the first interception totally turned the game in the chargers' favor.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that was when when I think back about it, that was him pressing because like the guy wasn't open.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_02: Metcalf just was not open, and you just gotta take another sack.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_02: And like another thing is like he was running around a lot like early, like they would miss blocks, and I don't was that Broderick Jones that was me had a really bad game.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_02: Like somebody was missing a lot of blocks at tackle.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_02: I know they were missing, say, Umalu, and you know, what's his name?
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_02: Um the center, you know, isn't great.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_02: He he's a solid center, but he's not like Hall of Famer by any stretch of the imagination.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, the the offense, we kept saying for weeks, like the offense isn't the problem, the offense isn't the problem last last week.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_02: The offense was the problem because they really did, the defense did fine, and they lost the time of possession again because they just cannot run the ball.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_02: Jalen Warren had 70 yards, but the bigger problem was they went two for 11 on third down and oh for one on fourth down, and you have to go like I think I looked the Chargers offense went six for 17, which is 35%, and that's right about where you want to be as a defense.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_02: You know, that's that's not bad for a defense, quite honestly.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_02: And they did give up 110 yards rushing, but that was between two guys.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't think the defense was terrible.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_02: They gave up like a really tightly contested pass to that long pass, the McConaughey, that lad guy.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_02: Like that was like literally three inches away from being knocked away.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_02: So I I I didn't think the defense played bad, but they they they just can't run the ball, and that's that's what drives me nuts, is they just can't run the ball.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_02: And I think they need so what's his name, the offensive lineman to get back healthy because they can't run the ball when they don't have that heavy extra offensive lineman package.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that's the only time they can really run the ball, and they need that, and when they have that, that kind of like the rest of their offense flows off of that.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_00: So Salomon being out, and then Anderson not being able to be that extra guy.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_00: That definitely threw off the offensive line and threw off the running game.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_00: Rogers was just bad, like you said.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_00: He was just bad.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I you can't criticize him too much because he's been really, really solid this season.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_02: But I think I think it's just they don't have a deep threat, and they're kind of like Kansas City was before they have to almost grind everything out and play defense.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_02: And you could win games like that.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_02: It's just not like like you end up to start piling up injuries because you have to play a full 60 minutes.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_02: Whereas like you know, the Chiefs blow somebody out, and by the fourth quarter, you're resting Patrick Mahomes, or you don't have to like really go all out, you don't have to have him sit back there and throw the ball 50 times, and that's gonna limit his exposure on getting hurt.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_00: And you're right, they do have to run the ball better.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like they're getting into now the cold weather months.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_00: They really have to figure out how to have a solid running game.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_00: I think you said about the time of possession, they have some kind of like historically low time of possession so far this season.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_02: Well, it's because I I didn't look up their third down conversions for the season, but I bet that's low too.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_02: Like that's the problem.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_02: That's what's affecting the time of possession, is they're not picking up third downs.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_02: And Tomlin even said that after the game, what lost in the game was turnovers and not converting third downs.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_02: And that that's honestly what it was against the Chargers.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and the defense, like you said, the defense is definitely the defense has been better the last two weeks.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe they kind of figured like we're we were figuring maybe they would figure out the secondary, and maybe they have now.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_02: You know, with Jalen Ramsey at safety, and um I guess uh is Slay hurt, uh he got concussed, didn't he, or something?
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's in the protocol.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_00: So they signed Asante Samuel.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh, really?
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_00: Junior.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_02: So oh god.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, not not the guy that played, you know, not his dad played 20 years ago.
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um but but uh you know and then they cut Juan Thornhill, which was interesting because he was their starting safety at the beginning of the season.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_00: So they're definitely shaking up the secondary, and like you said, I think they're they're starting to figure that out.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_00: They defense wasn't great.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_00: Like that one that one touchdown to McConkie, like he just totally just like smoked eckles over the middle.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_00: The the they gave Videll a bunch of like chunk runs, like a bunch of like nine, ten-yard runs.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_00: So they weren't perfect, but it was definitely like they played solid enough, and then they dropped like some interceptions.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_00: If they would have made a couple of those splash plays.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there was there was one I remember where the guy like uh Herbert threw right to him.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_02: He yeah, all you had to do was squeeze it.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_02: But I think that was Joey Porter Jr.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_02: actually.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_00: I it might have been, but it's like so so the the defense wasn't great, but they certainly weren't.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: It's not like a couple of weeks ago where they were just getting gutted.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_00: This this week will be interesting because now they play Cincinnati again, which is one of the teams that gutted them.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_00: So it'll be that'll be a good test for the defense.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_00: I know, and it'll be a good chance for the offense to hopefully get back on track.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's a get right game for sure.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_02: Um yeah, this is um the this is their schedule.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_02: This is their next four.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_02: And I I like I'm a big believer in the late Tun Jokins phrase that every month the NFL kind of turns on.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: Over and so I I'm going with four game like spots here.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_02: So now they're only one game up on Baltimore.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_02: And boy, were you right above Baltimore, Tim.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_02: Once they got into the easier part of their schedule, they are coming on strong.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_02: So the next four are like we said, the aforementioned Bengals, which should at least the offense should get on track.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if they'll be able to stop, you know, especially with a guy off the scrappy corner.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_02: So they're I mean, unless Joe Flacco like has finally like you know kind of shot his wad and he goes back to being 40-year-old, 40-year-old Joe Flacco, but whatever.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_02: Um so it's Bengals and then the Bears, which are surprisingly decent team since they got like a decent coach, and he's getting a lot out of that Caleb Williams.
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_02: So that'll be that's not gonna be a walkov game.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_02: And then the Bills.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_02: That's an interesting game now.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_02: I thought that would be probably a loss.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_02: Now I'm thinking I bet the Steelers win that.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_02: I I I I bet the Steelers backs are against the wall for that game because they probably win one, lose one.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_02: It's Bengals Bears.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know which one they win and lose, but I I don't think they win both.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_02: If they win both, I'd be shocked.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_02: Or pleasantly surprised at least.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_02: But I think they beat the Bills and then the Ravens I don't know, toss-up game.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_02: That's that's a flip a coin in the air when the Ravens and the Steelers play.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_02: So they could be playing for a tie-in the division by the time the Ravens roll around.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't look at who the Ravens are playing.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_02: I think the Ravens, the only teams the Ravens have left that have a winning record are at this point in the season are the Patriots and Green Bay.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_02: And Green Bay, you know, who looked so good when we played them, has looked not that good since we put they've lost two in a row.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_02: And one of those games was the Carolina, who's respectable this year, but you know, it's not exactly like they're going to the Super Bowl or anything or even making the playoffs.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_00: It it's it's like you said, Steve, about the what we said it flips.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_00: Every four weeks it flips.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, green Green Bay's going to the Super Bowl.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, Green Bay sucks, and then four weeks from now, Green Bay's going to the Super Bowl.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_00: So it's that's just the way the NFL goes.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_00: It's a long season.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_02: Well, injuries, I think too, the injuries and like coaches figuring out after the injuries what they have and teams kind of figuring out to play.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_02: Because like I think you get a major injury, and then maybe it takes you a week or two for the coaching stuff.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, we got this guy, we got to kind of shuffle things around, and the team kind of learns how to play with that injury sometimes.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_02: So you got that going on, too.
• 24:41
  SPEAKER_02: That's an underrated thing that I don't think people realize.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, I I don't I don't know where the Steelers go after this, honestly.
• 24:50
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, is this season about to come off the rails?
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_02: Are they I don't think they're gonna lose every game?
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_02: I think, like I said, I think they'll at least win seven games.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_02: They probably beat the Bengals somewhere, and I think there's another there they have like another game against Cleveland, right?
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_02: So so that that might be your two wins right there for the rest of the year.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_00: I I don't think so.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think that's gonna it's it's gonna be just like it has been all season.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_00: Like they they've played some really good teams.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_00: Some of them they've beaten.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_00: They beat New England and Indianapolis are two of the best teams in the AFC.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_02: But look at what it took.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_02: They had to get six turns.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_02: Like, that's not sustainable.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I guess.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_00: But that's but that's not like oh lucky that they got six tournaments.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_00: They look they caused all the turnovers and they played well.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_00: I mean I don't know.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_02: Well, the Patriots are ended up being really good this year.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah that might be they might be the one and two seeds in the AFC, those two teams.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_00: But then we also lost to the Packers, the Seahawks.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_00: Seahawks look really good, the Chargers, like these are good teams too.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_00: That that'll be the way the rest of the season goes.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_00: We'll we'll we'll win, like Yeah, we have some really tough games.
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_00: Buffalo, Detroit, Baltimore.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_00: We'll win some of those, we'll lose some of those.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_00: Uh we'll probably lose a game we weren't supposed to, we'll win some games we weren't supposed to, and then we'll be right around that.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_00: Nine, nine, ten, nine, and eight.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_00: And I think I think they're good enough to be a playoff team.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_00: I actually think they're good enough to win a playoff game because look at how they've I said that the beginning of the season.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_02: I thought they would win a playoff game this year, just because they have a for real quarterback.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_02: Right, right.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_00: So I think but I think that's their ceiling.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_00: I think their ceiling is they're good enough to get in the playoffs, they're good enough to win a playoff game, and that's about it.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_00: I I don't think their ceiling is any higher than that.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_00: And and again, like going back to the beginning of the season, uh, people that are upset right now, like, no offense, but like what did you expect?
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like this was not a team that was built to win a Super Bowl.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_00: This was a bridge team that had a lot of holes that they tried to patch with a 42-year-old quarterback and Jalen Ramsey and people like that.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_00: And then again, the kudos to Darius Slay.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_00: Darius Slay.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_00: Well, not so much kudos to Darius Slay, but but but they patched it pretty well.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like they're contending, which is what they aim to do every season.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_02: It l it isn't like Minka Fitzpatrick, he's not been anything for Miami.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_02: I think he recovered a fumble the other day, but it was like he didn't cause it.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_02: He just fell on the ball.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_02: He was just you go there.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_00: They made moves good enough to keep them, you know, not in the cellar, but it's not a team that's gonna win a Super Bowl.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_00: It's a team that, like I said, like I keep saying, this is the early 2000 Steelers, where you know, you're you're starting to draft some players, you're starting to develop some players, but you need to put pull it all together with the quarterback, and they don't have that yet.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_00: So until they do, then expect more seasons like this.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know what else to say.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_02: So you think they're not gonna stack wins?
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_02: You think they're gonna kind of go win one week, lose the next?
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, or like you know, two, one, one, two, you know, like that.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_00: It's just the way the season.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_00: I don't I think the way the season has gone.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_00: I think the rest of the season will go the same way.
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_02: Do the Ravens make the playoffs?
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, the Ravens, I think the Ravens win the division, hands down.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_00: I think they'll pass us.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_00: I think by the time we're gonna be able to do that.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know, Tim.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_02: They they have to play us twice.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_02: That I think those two games are going to decide the division.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_02: And they have to win both, Tim.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_02: They can't lose any of those games, at least to us in the division.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_00: I think by the time we play them in four weeks, they'll be in first place and we'll be a game behind.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_02: Interesting.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_02: All right.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_02: All right, well, that's it for this edition.
• 28:31
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• 28:33
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• 28:38
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• 28:42
  SPEAKER_02: It's an odd should have it was robbed of an Oscar in '95.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_02: Who won the Academy Award in '95, Tim?
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_00: Braveheart.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_02: So definitely, definitely law.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_02: Definitely deserved it over that.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_02: That's one of Tim's talents, by the way.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_02: He knows the all the Super Bowl MVPs and all the Academy Award winners.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's the most useless skill ever.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_02: Who's the Super Bowl MVP of uh Super Bowl 32?
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, that would have been uh to all day.
• 29:10
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• 29:13
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• 29:17
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• 29:22
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