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By Order of the Faithfuls: Your Cloak is Showing (S1 E2) · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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  Speaker 1: All right, welcome in Faithfuls and Traders to a new
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  Speaker 1: episode of By Order of the Faithfuls. I'm Wills Adams
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  Speaker 1: that I'm alongside.
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  Speaker 2: Dolores Catana, the Winner.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, the winner, and apparently Tamra was banished because she's
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  Speaker 1: not here today. She's doing her Oh she.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't make it to breakfast. I'm so sad she was murdered.
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  Speaker 1: She didn't knock on the doors. She did not come
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  Speaker 1: through breakfast. But we're here and so are you all.
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  Speaker 1: We finally kind of get into the meat of the season, right,
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  Speaker 1: Like I think the first episode is very much just
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  Speaker 1: like establishing shots and like meeting everyone, and now we're
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  Speaker 1: into the gameplay. So episode two is very very fun.
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  Speaker 2: People are now starting to get their footing and you
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  Speaker 2: kind of get surprised at who's actually right yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: who's like on to them in such an early stage.
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  Speaker 2: So that surprised me.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oooh, I wonder if it's the first
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  Speaker 1: American season. I wonder if there wasn't a lot of
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  Speaker 1: information to go on for the people who are traders,
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  Speaker 1: who I feel like are making big mistakes and like
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  Speaker 1: making big swings and being very obvious.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the biggest mistake is being in everyone's face, which
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  Speaker 2: I don't think Christians capable of not doing that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: like he is on top, like he is putting a
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  Speaker 2: target on himself beyond.
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  Speaker 1: So at breakfast, the Trader's first murder is revealed. They
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  Speaker 1: killed Reza from Shaws of Sunset. How did you feel
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  Speaker 1: about that? Like, you know, he thought that the Traders
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  Speaker 1: made a good decision, But I think it's so early
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  Speaker 1: that I'm not sure if it really matters.
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  Speaker 2: So, of course, if you remember at the first mission,
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  Speaker 2: Rezzo was the loudest. He was like, all gung ho
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  Speaker 2: pro team. Now these guys still don't know. Again, let's
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  Speaker 2: cut them some slow. This is First American season, second episode,
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  Speaker 2: the first mission. You don't know that being loud is
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  Speaker 2: going to give someone an excuse to murder you or
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  Speaker 2: put you. As a Trader, you kind of have to
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  Speaker 2: play possum, which is how I played. He made the
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  Speaker 2: ultimate mistake being a strong leader, being somebody who can
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  Speaker 2: influence people. That's everything the Traders.
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  Speaker 1: Don't want one hundred percent, and then also being kind
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  Speaker 1: of so outspoken. He annoyed Michael, and then Michael kind
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  Speaker 1: of explained to everyone how much he didn't like Resia,
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  Speaker 1: and so then it's just like, well, this is such
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  Speaker 1: an easy thing for the traders to jump on, right,
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  Speaker 1: it's already internal turmoil with faithfuls, and we can get
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people looking their way.
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  Speaker 2: Right. So, you know, Michael, although he's not a trader,
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  Speaker 2: he would have, I think, made a good trader because
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  Speaker 2: he makes these little bombs everywhere. But yet he's got
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  Speaker 2: like this Southern accent and he's real like innocent and like,
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  Speaker 2: oh poor little me, and you know, New Jersey, you
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  Speaker 2: come out. I could be walking down the beach. I
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  Speaker 2: remember in like I don't know Aruba, the homeless man
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  Speaker 2: living on the beach looked at me and goes Jersey
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, why go because you got that look. So,
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  Speaker 2: you know, people with strong personalities like resident thing, they
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  Speaker 2: tend to draw attention to themselves, where Michael is acting
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  Speaker 2: like this innocent little Southern bell. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Reza kind of reminds me of Derinda from the season
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  Speaker 1: that we were on, Like she was very loud, she
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  Speaker 1: was ruffling some feathers and she was bravo. Yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but she came became the first target for the traders.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was a kind of an interesting analogy
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  Speaker 1: and very similar. But then you have Christian over here
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  Speaker 1: pushing this narrative that gerald Deane's trader, which is surprising
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  Speaker 1: to me. I mean, it was they were all going
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  Speaker 1: off of. She looked really nervous after they pulled the
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  Speaker 1: blindfolds off, which okay, I guess, but well I didn't.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Other than that, I didn't really see her even talk
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  Speaker 1: to anybody, So I was surprised that that's who they
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  Speaker 1: were going after.
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  Speaker 2: Well, as this is, there's no rhyme or reason in
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  Speaker 2: the beginning why people will come for you, right. So
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  Speaker 2: the thing with Geraldine is she didn't make a connection
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  Speaker 2: with everyone, and now we can't go by that because
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  Speaker 2: you certainly did, and you were the first to be banished, right,
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  Speaker 2: and you had a connection with everyone. I think that
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  Speaker 2: you know, Iane needed a defibrillator when you left. She
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  Speaker 2: was hysterical, crying. I had a carrier back to her room,
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  Speaker 2: and everyone felt so freaking bad, and you were missed.
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  Speaker 2: But see, somebody like Geraldine comes in doesn't know anybody.
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  Speaker 2: She says to herself, I'm an introvert. I get to
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  Speaker 2: know people. It's just the way I grew up it's
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  Speaker 2: the way I was raised. So people want to judge
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  Speaker 2: the way someone handles things or acts by that way,
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  Speaker 2: Like you have to get people to like you. That's
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  Speaker 2: a part of winning as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, that's also like winning a life.
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  Speaker 2: I liked her. I think she's a very nice person.
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  Speaker 2: I would have liked to have seen Michael go instead
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  Speaker 2: of her.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that this was a good example of
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  Speaker 1: why it's really hard to do this show with people
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  Speaker 1: who are used to being on TV and then people
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  Speaker 1: who aren't right, like a couple of glaring exposition of
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  Speaker 1: like she was kind of falling in on her shelf,
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  Speaker 1: didn't want to talk a lot, whereas you've got some other,
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  Speaker 1: you know, big TV personalities that you know it's their
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  Speaker 1: job to be on TV and make friends. And I
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  Speaker 1: thought that that was like, oh, I can see how
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  Speaker 1: this would go this way. But you know, Christian pushing
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  Speaker 1: this narrative of Gerald Dean makes people start thinking that
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  Speaker 1: Christian is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, hey see so again amateur moves.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: First season, see Sirih's sitting back. She's just watching it
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  Speaker 2: all happening and listening and taking making sure nobody's onto her.
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  Speaker 2: She's smart, she is very smart, but she's not smarter
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  Speaker 2: than Brandy.
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  Speaker 1: I know. I gotta say, Brandy is killing it out there.
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  Speaker 1: She's calling out traders left, right and center.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I'm yet to see somebody who called
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  Speaker 2: things this straight, this sharp, this early. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: Brandy's a player anyway, like in life. And I all
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  Speaker 2: the power to her, all the respect when I say this.
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  Speaker 2: She's no slouch. She's been through a lot, She's had
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  Speaker 2: her share of liars in her life, I'm sure. So
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  Speaker 2: here she comes like bitch. I know that I know
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  Speaker 2: this animal like she was, but it's but sirih was
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  Speaker 2: just sitting like to call her out, you almost have
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  Speaker 2: to be psychic at this point.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean some people have that like inkling and
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  Speaker 1: can really read people. You know. It's interesting the way
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  Speaker 1: that Christian was going about Well, I mean, he was
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  Speaker 1: campaigning against Cheraldine kind of before the roundtable, right, But
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  Speaker 1: it reminded me a lot of when Bob the drag
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  Speaker 1: Queen kind of came after me. He kind of like
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  Speaker 1: was the ringleader of we think that Wells is the guy,
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  Speaker 1: and I remember thinking like, that's really weird. I thought
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  Speaker 1: I had a good relationship with you. I don't really
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  Speaker 1: talked to you that a whole lot, but I've tried
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  Speaker 1: to talk to you a bunch and then afterwards being like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, maybe he's a trader because he's going after
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  Speaker 1: he's the one who started this kind of like dialogue
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  Speaker 1: that I was a trader. And I think that Christian's
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  Speaker 1: doing a very similar thing where people are like, wait,
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  Speaker 1: hold on. And the problem that you have when you
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  Speaker 1: do that is the second that you banish someone who
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  Speaker 1: isn't a trader, then eyes turned back on you because
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  Speaker 1: it's like, oh, you were the guy who suggested this.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if it's any consolation to you that did put
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  Speaker 2: him on the spot after you were gone, then now
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  Speaker 2: all eyes are on him. So it's always a risk
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  Speaker 2: to call someone out. It's always a risk to be
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  Speaker 2: the loud one always, and then God forbid, you vote
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  Speaker 2: for the trader, and the trader doesn't get voted out,
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  Speaker 2: you're gone. Yeah, that's why Derek on our cast, he
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  Speaker 2: was trying to call out Boston Rob and he said,
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  Speaker 2: I won't be here tomorrow, but I'm going to tell
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  Speaker 2: you right now it's him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. That was scary. That was good, very good. So
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  Speaker 1: for the challenge, six players are doing something that I
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  Speaker 1: know that you and Tam said you would never do,
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  Speaker 1: and that's being buried.
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  Speaker 2: Shit. Okay, so wells wait, you would do this?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? I was watching with my wife and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the ladies were saying that they would never
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  Speaker 1: do this. Would you do this? And she said, well,
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have a problem with that. My only concern
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  Speaker 1: would be that there would be bugs in there and
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  Speaker 1: it would freak me out because it would be pitch black.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, I agree with that, but I
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  Speaker 1: would do this. It's the bugs that I wouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: able to handle. But I know that you guys have
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  Speaker 1: like a claustrophobia unlike any other.
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  Speaker 2: Like any other. So I'm I can't breathe talking about it,
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  Speaker 2: and I couldn't breathe watching it. Yeah, you couldn't pay
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  Speaker 2: me enough to get in that coffin, they said to
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  Speaker 2: me standing right there. As much as I went through
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  Speaker 2: to freaking get there, and then the excitement of being there,
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  Speaker 2: let me tell you something. I'd be calling from my
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  Speaker 2: ticket home. I'd be like, Paul, get me a first
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  Speaker 2: class ticket the out of here. I'm not getting in that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want anything that bad, not even for five minutes.
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  Speaker 2: They were in their thirty nine minutes. They had to
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  Speaker 2: find these people.
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  Speaker 1: No way fun like production side of things that I
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  Speaker 1: think is interesting for the listeners out there is I
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  Speaker 1: remember talking to producers in They're like, is there anything
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  Speaker 1: that you wouldn't do? And I remember saying, if there
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  Speaker 1: are spiders or bugs, I won't do it. And they're like, well,
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  Speaker 1: what if there's a lot of money, And I said,
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  Speaker 1: I don't care about the money. Did you say, like,
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  Speaker 1: I will not be buried alive one percent?
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  Speaker 2: I said that. I said, I don't do clothes in
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  Speaker 2: closed spaces. I Am not getting in a coffin for nothing.
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  Speaker 2: And it's not about the superstition, because I mean, if
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  Speaker 2: I could use a nap as long as you keep
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  Speaker 2: it open, I don't care. But I don't know, not
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  Speaker 2: for me, that was my thing. I don't mind spiders, snakes,
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  Speaker 2: I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: That gotta go. Yeah, this is a fun regardless of
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  Speaker 1: your phobia. This is a pretty fun mission they do.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Alan signals the starts. They'll first locate a
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  Speaker 1: shovel Milwaukee talkie, which will help them communicate with the
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  Speaker 1: Barry players and the Barry players have to reveal a
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  Speaker 1: riddle and a crest that's on their graves to help
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  Speaker 1: their teammates find them. I thought it was funny, you know,
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  Speaker 1: mid challenge, Michael tells multiple people that he'd like to
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  Speaker 1: banish Cherald Team tonight. I never thought during well, I
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  Speaker 1: only did I guess two missions, but I never thought
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  Speaker 1: that it would have been a smart move for me
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  Speaker 1: to start, you know, campaigning against someone in the middle
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  Speaker 1: of a mission.
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  Speaker 2: Well, no, I mean that's happened. That happens. But he
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  Speaker 2: something about Michael is like he's doing trader behavior.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he is.
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  Speaker 2: I would have totally voted for him. The women voted
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  Speaker 2: for him, most of them did, right. So the only
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  Speaker 2: reason he was able to get out of it is
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  Speaker 2: you need to know how to talk your way out
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  Speaker 2: of something. Yeah, and that's that's what it was. But
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  Speaker 2: you know, to be shocked that he was bringing that
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  Speaker 2: out in the middle, no, because there's not a lot
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  Speaker 2: of time to talk after you're done stuff in your
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  Speaker 2: face because by the end of the day and the
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  Speaker 2: activities that we do, you're so hungry and it's not
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  Speaker 2: the most satisfying food. Let's face it. When you get
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  Speaker 2: back you're so hungry, you're double fisting food which doesn't
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  Speaker 2: even taste and then you know, so there's not a
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  Speaker 2: lot of time to talk, and then you're going into
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  Speaker 2: different rooms, and so that is kind of the time
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  Speaker 2: to start dropping the bombs for when people get back
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  Speaker 2: and that name is in their head totally.
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  Speaker 1: I guess, like you know, for the two missions I did,
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  Speaker 1: I was just so focused on trying to like complete
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  Speaker 1: it or I honestly the second one, I just wanted
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  Speaker 1: an immunity because I thought that they were going to
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  Speaker 1: try to come get me. Why did you think that?
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  Speaker 1: Because I remember saying that I thought that the traders
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  Speaker 1: were stupid for killing someone that I thought we were
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  Speaker 1: all going to banish. And then I remember Robin and
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  Speaker 1: Sam got really like salty about it and offended, and
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  Speaker 1: I remember thinking, oh, no, like I'm in trouble.
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  Speaker 2: I think I don't know that. That's what I know.
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  Speaker 1: I know that was just what was going through my mind,
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  Speaker 1: because I remember because I was the only one who
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  Speaker 1: was trying to get Wes down in that second mission
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  Speaker 1: that we did, and they cut it, but I yelled out,
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  Speaker 1: I said, I'm going to get you down, but you
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  Speaker 1: have to save me because I think they're going to
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  Speaker 1: try to kill me tonight.
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  Speaker 2: Oh and you just had a feeling because you pissed
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  Speaker 2: off two people by what you said.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so that's that's I was being paranoid like
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  Speaker 1: everyone it kind of is on the show. And Wes
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  Speaker 1: said like, Okay, if you get me down, I will
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  Speaker 1: will you know, I'll give you my immunity or whatnot,
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  Speaker 1: And they cut that as well, and so then that's
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  Speaker 1: when I got I in to help me get him down,
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  Speaker 1: and we got him down, like right at the end.
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  Speaker 1: But it sucked because I got banished before the killing
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  Speaker 1: was happening that night, where the immunity would have helped me.
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  Speaker 1: But anyways, all I'm saying is that during the missions,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I'm thinking, like I should be
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  Speaker 1: talking to people about who to get rid of. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just like, I got to finish this thing so you
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  Speaker 1: can get the money and get the hell out of here.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that it was not a smart move
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  Speaker 1: on Michael's part, But you're right that there is such
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  Speaker 1: little time to really talk that like you kind of
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  Speaker 1: take any opportunity you can.
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  Speaker 2: The least time you have to do anything is to
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  Speaker 2: converse about what's going to happen at the roundtable. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so you kind of if you're if you think you're
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  Speaker 2: on the hot seat, you have a time to turn
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  Speaker 2: it around by putting somebody else's name out there, but
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  Speaker 2: typically by then it's already happened during the missions.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the teams.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of people start to turn on each other
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  Speaker 2: during the teams because they dislike each other. So a
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  Speaker 2: lot of the times the votes will come out of
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  Speaker 2: an annoyance or kind of like, what's going on with
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  Speaker 2: Christian right now? I feel like people are going to
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  Speaker 2: start to turn on him soon. So if I was
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  Speaker 2: on there, he would get on my nerves and I'd
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  Speaker 2: want him to be gone at this point because you
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  Speaker 2: have nothing else to go on. So let's just banish
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  Speaker 2: the people that get on our nerves or yeah, banish them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. A lot of the scheming and the
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  Speaker 1: talking also happens in the cars.
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  Speaker 2: Oh big time. Yes, so that's what that's what got
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  Speaker 2: Brandy caught in this episode. Ye, so we how about
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  Speaker 2: Andy going the wrong way on the map? Well, who
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: knows how to read a map anymore? Yeah, nobody knows, Like.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: I need GPS, I know, and.
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  Speaker 2: You have nothing. You don't have anything, so now leading
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  Speaker 2: the team the wrong way, Andy feels like possibly now
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  Speaker 2: Andy's a target.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because as a I guess if you are a trader,
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  Speaker 1: you're really not trying to to win these things. You
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  Speaker 1: don't care. Well, I guess you want the money, but like,
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  Speaker 1: you're not trying for immunity. But immunity is not in
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  Speaker 1: this first season.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of the traders moving forward do try for
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  Speaker 2: immunity because they want to get like the target off
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  Speaker 2: of them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like, well, I tried so hard, so why
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  Speaker 1: would I if I was so.
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  Speaker 2: Why am I trying for a shield? Duh, duh. That's
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  Speaker 2: that's what it was. So but you know, Andy was scared,
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  Speaker 2: what the hell I'm up next? What could you do?
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  Speaker 1: And I could see people being, well, if we don't
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  Speaker 1: know who it is, let's get rid of someone who
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  Speaker 1: cost us a bunch of money.
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  Speaker 2: That's the other thing that takes a part. There's a
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: lot of different factors besides someone thinking you're a trader. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you have to you have to grab from different places
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  Speaker 2: because it's too early to have really any clues.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, it's like it reminds me of you know,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's in season two where Kate comes back
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  Speaker 1: and she like really doesn't want to be there, right,
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  Speaker 1: Like she's Erica. She by the way, I'm sure if
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: I filled with her she would annoy me. But watching
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: her on TV, she is so good at it. She's
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: so funny.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: They love her the studio. Lambert loves Kate and she's funny.
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  Speaker 2: She don't give a shit. Yeah, I feel like she's
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  Speaker 2: like really just like that in real life. Yeah, she's
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: a friend of mine. I adore her, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: it would take a lot to shake her up. Talk
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  Speaker 2: about smart, Kate's very, very smart, totally, and I love
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  Speaker 2: when she goes off on somebody, like she was telling
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  Speaker 2: Michael off exactly the way I wanted somebody to tell
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  Speaker 2: him off, And so was.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Brandy for that fact. Yeah, she's great, a little bit
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: of a superpower to like not give an f because
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: if you can do that, everyone else is tripping out
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: and stressed out. And if you are like I don't
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: care whatever, You're just gonna be there forever, which is
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: what happens with her.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: You know, when I was going to play this game,
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: my brother said to me, I asked my family for advice.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: What do they know about this game? And my brother said,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: you've only ever looked up the things you gave a
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: shit about.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I took that with me. Yeah, simply for right.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah. No, Hey, it worked. I'm okay about it. It
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: was a good episode, though, it was there was so
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: much going on for so new But I love seeing
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Kyle from Summerhouse.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I know. Yeah. But so let's go back to the
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: like the roundtable right beforehand, everyone's kind of getting together
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: to discuss their theories. Christian continues to push for Gerald Deane.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: No one seems to be super convinced by it. But
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: I think that we're like almost like a rudderless sailboat.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, theotia. No one really knows that. No one
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: doesn't even know what they don't know. At this point,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Brandy's certain that the traders are Michael and Christian, and
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: she briefly mentions Sherry, but she puts it on the
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: back burner. But it's just that moment where I'm like,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: this woman is a genius. I wouldn't have gotten any
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: of these people.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Don't count Brandy. Glanfell out all right, anybody, My money's
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: on Brandy all day long every day.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: It's always interesting to see who starts off round tables.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Yes, it is.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: It's a very big tell. I feel like and Cody
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: starting off the round table calling out Geraldine and Michael
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: I thought was interesting.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: You know what's funny. Sarah's just sitting back. Yeah, I know,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: so Sarah's just sitting back and letting those fools go on,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: and she's saying it. She's saying, he's gonna get us pinched.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: I don't think the other two were great, really great traders,
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was too much of bull in a China
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: shop and not enough like thinking things through.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: I think, well for sure, but again, we have to
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: give it to them. It is the first season, episode two.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: We're not familiar with this game. Now. Everybody's a player.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Everybody's like, you know, if you meet somebody out there, like,
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: how could you not have known? Boston Robb was a trader,
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: all right, I get that, But I also spent the
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: whole day with him. That day he coached Sierra through
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: the bug challenge, so there's also a relationship aspect. Like
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: I was saying before that, when you get to know
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: these people, it's very hard to want to vote for
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: them because you get closer. You're with them all day.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: You're not speaking to anybody else fourteen hours a day. Yeah.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: The other thing that I don't know if gets mentioned enough,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: is that you may think someone's a trader and still
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: be really close with them, Because that's what I'm saying.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Having an ally who's a trader is very, very valuable.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, Brandy's like screwed because she's right right.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: She talked too much. Yeah, I feel like she knew
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: better than to say it, because she's not done. You
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: just spent the whole day with these people. You bury
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: got your friends out of a coffin alive. But wait,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: what about Christian hitting her with the shovel?
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Oh I know, I'm surprised you didn't get like that.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Cut Listen. Brandy gets pissed off. She's like, I'm okay,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: I'm okay, Yeah, but I didn't like it.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: You know, she doesn't realize she had the power right
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: now to turn everybody against him, because I feel like
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: already at this point, Surrey would have already turned on him,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Cody would have turned on him at the round table,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: and if Brandy really wanted just for the simple fact
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: that he got on her nerves, she could have got
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: out of Trader.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. They go after Michael hard in this.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: You know, Kate mentions that Michael threatened her to vote
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: for Jerald. He blames his awkwardness on anxiety. But then
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Kyle pointed out that he had a similar conversation with
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Michael during the challenge too, And so it seems like
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: everyone's kind of going at Michael as they should, as
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: they should, and then gerald Jane just stays silent, like
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I'm sure she had to defend herself, but we never
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: really get to see it. I wonder if being silent
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: is what ended up getting her banned.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: It was really torn. It was a tie. The girls
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: didn't want to vote for her. You even seen some
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: people erased his name and then put hers down because
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: she didn't know how to speak enough to stick up
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: like he did. Yeah, he was ready for it. He
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: was ready to stick up for himself. He knows how
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: to get something. Tells me that Michael has more than
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: once in his life how to talk his way out
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: of some bullshit. And I don't think gerald Deane's used
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: to that. Geraldine also so explained, and so many people
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: are like this, including myself. And this is why I
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: understand her. Is she shuts down when people are coming
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: after her. Geraldine shuts down. It's the way she grew up,
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: it's the way her father taught her to be, or
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: however it is. And I get it. I get it
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: one hundred thousand percent. But I would have liked to
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: see her stay.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I had a lot of sympathy, and I was
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: empathetic to what was happening to her. I felt bad
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: about it.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Now, let's take this back to your sitting at the roundtable.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: I want to go through your feelings because I can't
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: imagine what it's like because all these things, it's the
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: first banishment. You're not expecting these people that you've made
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: friends with to come for you. You're innocent, You're being
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: judged by everybody, and people are saying untrue things about you.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: What are the feelings that you go through being in
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: that hot seat, if you could take yourself back to that.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was frustrated on a lot of different counts.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: I was frustrated that I kind of wasn't told that
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: I was on the chopping block until kind of right
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: before we walked in there. So I never had an
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: opportunity to go and talk to people and be like,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: hold on, what are you talking about? And it happened
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: so fast that I didn't have an opportunity to really
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: sit down, compose my thoughts and make sure I had
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: a really good, compelling argument. And I was just I
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: was like, just upset. The other thing too, is and
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you have to deal with this a lot,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: but I am very concerned with how I'm being perceived,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: especially on television. And what was making me angry is
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: that the dialogue that Bob the Drag Queen was saying
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: was that I was off putting. I didn't making an
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: attempt with him, and I remember thinking, like, that's not true.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: I've talked to you about multiple things. You know, my
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: wife was a judge on Drag Race, and she had
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: just done a Broadway show with another person who was
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: on Drag Race named Jinx Monsoon, and like, and I
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: had all these things.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: So I had a dialogue with him. You did speak
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: to him, yeah.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: And what was frustrating is that he was saying that
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: I was, you know, like giving him the cold shoulder
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: and not trying with him, and I was like, that's
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: just not true, and that got me angry because I
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: was like, that's not what happened. You're making up lies
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: about me. Then of course it makes sense now looking
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: back of like he was making it all up to,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: you know, make sure everyone was trying to vote for me,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: which I get now. At the time, I was just
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: upset that someone was like attacking my character.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Ry and you'd never expected it. I mean, how many
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: times in your life have you been accused of those things?
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: I don't think ever.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And also like if you ever have been accused
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: of something that you didn't do, it's all the time.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: It's really hard to try to explain yourself without looking crazy.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: You know. Well, here's the thing. And I've been in
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: many courtrooms. I used to you know, I used to
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: work in the jail. I worked in courtrooms. It's harder
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: to prove your innocent than it is to prove you're guilty. Yeah,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: and that is that's the truth. Because you have no
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: tangible proof on something that didn't happen, or that you're innocent.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: You have nothing to prove. You don't have anything to present,
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: is what I'm saying. So in life, wells, that is
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: absolutely across the board. The thing you cannot. It's very
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: very hard to prove your innocent. You have to That's
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: when you have to use your character, your integrity, and
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: your reputation to back you. Yeah, which you have all
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: those things, but it wasn't you're not bringing that to
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: the game. Somebody's accusing you of something. What you do
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: on the outside has nothing to do with what you
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: do on the inside.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was frustrated. The emotion that was going through
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: my mind was like I was a little ashamed. I
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: was like embarrassed. I came all the way out here.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: I thought I was going to do really well and
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: then I'm like the first person out. So that was
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: also like making me angry, like I can't believe it,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Like I'm the first guy out. This is embarrassing. I
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: got to tell my wife, I got to watch this back.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: This sucks.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: So that's all going through your head while everybody's like
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: voting for you, and then at what point do you
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: like concede once the votes start coming out or.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, well, I thought I was in a
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: lot of trouble and then the vote started coming out
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: and it started teetering back, Like if you remember.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: I'm getting anxiety for you listening to this, but I've
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: always wanted to ask you this in detail.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: So I made a shoe huge mistake. The mistake I
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: made was they asked me because I said I said
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: something I called the trader stupid or something, and I
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: noticed immediately that people got upset when I said it.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: And then someone said, well who got upset? And I
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: should never have said the names. I said, what were
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: the names? I said, Robin and Sam and so so
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: then that's when I was like, I think Robin's a
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: trader because she got upset that I said it was dumb.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: But I should have never said Sam, because then Sam
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden was like, well, screw you, man.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: If you think that I'm a trader, then I'm done.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: I'm going to turn your Yeah.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: So I thought I was in a lot of trouble.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: What I didn't realize is that there were a lot
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: of votes for Ivor, and if I had just like
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: piled on to Ivor, then he probably would have been
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: the one to go home over me, because it came
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: down to like four four and four, and then the
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: last person to vote was Caroline, who was a trader,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: and she voted for me, so like came down to
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: this last one, which sucks. So I thought I was
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: good because I had a good relationship with her, So you.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Were surprised when it came to her she was making
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: the final decision and she voted for you. Who else
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: who were you up against? Who else was on the
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: chop besides Iver Robin. See now I'm surprised that she
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: wouldn't have gone for Ivor being that you guys had
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: made some type of connection. That's weird to me.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, Bob the drag Queen and her,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Oh okay got together and they both thought that makes sense,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: said me. And then and then Bob did a thing
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: where he accused me was the one who started everything
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: and then didn't vote for me. So then he was
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: able to like kind of wash his hands clean of
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: it being.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Wrong, Rellion. No one said that guy was stupid. He
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: might have been two over the top and you know,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: annoying in a Christian like way at sometimes, but that
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: was smart.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: He's smart. He's inherently smart. Oh yeah, Bob the trag
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: Queen is well versed on any subject you want to
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: talk to him on, and he knows it. He's very
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: very very very intelligent.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: And then I'll tell you then. So then my mind
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: starts going, well, I got to make a TV show still,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: like I'm still got to be entertaining. So once I
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: knew that I was screwed, I'm like, what do I
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: do to at least have like a good exit? And
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: you know, we all had this thing of like we
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: want to be the first season that gets out of
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Trader on the first banishment, right, Like I remember us
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: all like really wanting that. Well, these all these people
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: think that I'm a Trader. I'm going to at least
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: milk this for all I can. So then I went
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: up there and I started slow clapping, like.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: You know, like I remember that, and.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I remember Tony because Tony voted for me too. I visibly,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: I remember looking at everyone's faces and I was like
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: trying to keep it straight because I was like, I
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: want to give them twenty seconds of thinking that they
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: did this thing. And so I started slow clapping, and
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: everyone thought like, oh my god, we got a Trader.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: And then I was like, yeah, I'm a faithful You
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: guys are idiots.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: And then I laught that was a good accent. I
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: have to say so.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Going back to the end of this episode, it's pretty
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: close between Gerald Dean and Michael, but ultimately they banished
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Gerald Deane. She tells everyone she's a faithful We finally
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: hear her speak, I suppose, and then Michael apologizes to
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: the group about his behavior, start starts crying.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: A lot of crying goes on at that table, A
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: lot of crying in Traders. I'm from New Jersey. I'm
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: not used to that, yeah at all, But there's an
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: I love emotion. I love people that can cry and
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: feel emotion. It's a very emotionally draining show.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it really hit cry on the show.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: In ten years of being on TV, I cried one
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: time when my dog died, No, two times when my
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: dog died, and then another time and a psychic told
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: me that my dog was channeling through. That was probably
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: the last time I cried anyway.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the only time I ever cried on TV was
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: they gave me eye drops to make it look like
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: I was crying because I'm not my wife and I
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: can't force the tears. But you know, the other thing
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: that I thought was interesting about the end of this
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: episode was Christian being like, you know, Gerald Deane. She
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: was such a great a great one. And then it's
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Katey like, what you're going to have a you know,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: like a euloge?
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: What do you want to have a eulogy? Kate is
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: a hysteria and all. And then what about Brandy? She's like,
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: I'm over it. Kate's like and you know, Kate's smart,
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: because you know, she's very funny. You know what she said,
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: We're going to do this tomorrow and the next day
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: and the next day. And that is the game that
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: is so true. Banishing a faithful or voting for someone
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: you got close to never got easy for me. Yeah,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: it never did.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: The Traders mean the Turrets kind of end the episode.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Cody Revie that basically Brandy is onto everyone.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: She must be the next murder.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Come on, well, so that's the thing. So if you're
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: the Traders, if you kill her, then isn't everyone to
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: be like, well, hold on, she said you you knew?
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Then does that put a spotlight on them?
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: It depends because who did they say and in front
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: of is that person paying attention? She said it in
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: the car with like three other people or two other people.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: She didn't really go around chanting I think it's Siri.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: I think it's cretty. You know, so, I don't know.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know if they have a choice.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: I'm curious, Like I'm not even looking I don't want
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: to look ahead. I'm looking forward to the next episode.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: I honestly don't even remember how this season ends. I
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: watched it obviously for the show, but that was a
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: year and a half ago or something, right.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: And you were binging and you were nervous. So we're
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: excited to see what they do with Brandy Glanville next,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Who's onto every freaking one of them.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: She's just Sherlock Glanville over here.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: She is. She would have made a great trader, but
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: she would have been an obvious trader.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. But do you think that you
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: would be a good trader?
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: No? Really, no, I'm not a good liar.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: You're so gregarious and good with people. I think you
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: would be good at it.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: I think that I wouldn't enjoy it. Let me say this,
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: thank you for saying that I wouldn't enjoy it. Yeah,
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: it would ruin the game for me.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: The not getting the sleep part is the thing that
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: really would probably bug me the most.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: I was so healthy there. I didn't need sleep. I
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: was a machine. Wellst I was like waking up skinny
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: and I was happy. I want to go back. I cried,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: you know when I cried when I left the room,
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: like I don't want to go. I'll stay for free.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: They're like, you gotta go. There's not even a game left.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: It's over. They're packing up the castle. I'm like, just
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: leave me here.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: It's a health and wellness retreat at this point for me.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:13
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