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Inside The Tape With Greg Cosell: Eagles "Still Not Running The Ball Very Well." · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome to Inside the Tape with NFL Film
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Speaker 1: Senior producer Greg co Cell for Inside the Birds, I'm
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Speaker 1: Adam Kaplan and Greg.
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Speaker 2: Here we are. You guys had a crazy game.
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Speaker 1: It was one of the strangest games I think I've
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Speaker 1: seen it a long time Greg, But more more about
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Speaker 1: that in a minute. But look, it was it was
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Speaker 1: a game they clearly felt they should have won. But
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Speaker 1: the tape will always tell you something different from what
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Speaker 1: you would think you saw on TV. And Greg, this week,
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Speaker 1: because we're in a we're in a short we're in
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Speaker 1: a shirt week, and the Eagles play Friday, and because
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Speaker 1: of the holiday, we're not we're not able to get
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Speaker 1: in the tape in terms of watching it along with you.
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Speaker 1: But the great thing about this show is in particular
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Speaker 1: we did this last year. It actually gives us more
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Speaker 1: time to talk about specifics scheme.
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Speaker 2: Uh, We'll should probably get.
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Speaker 1: Into the Bears and one of these two shows a
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Speaker 1: little bit because the Eagles play them on a weird
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Speaker 1: day on Friday. At Friday Friday at three pm Eastern.
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Speaker 2: You gotta love it.
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Speaker 1: Hey, at least it's not at seven o'clock, so you
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Speaker 1: folks could have some dinner early. But but the bottom
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Speaker 1: line is, Greg, they did lose this game. And the
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Speaker 1: reason why I brought up, you know, tay versus TV
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Speaker 1: copy or what you could be fooled. Sometimes I'll call
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Speaker 1: coach and like a running back could have gone twenty
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Speaker 1: for one twenty five and go, hey, man, that dude
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Speaker 1: had a great game, and goes, are you kidding me?
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Speaker 1: He missed five runs in the BGAP. What are you
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Speaker 1: talking about. I'm like, sorry, dude, right, it's I'm only
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Speaker 1: you know. He goes, you clearly didn't watch the tape.
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Speaker 1: I go, no, I didn't. He goes, well, let me
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Speaker 1: explain to you what we were pissed off about. Yes,
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Speaker 1: he did get this done, but he missed this, this, this, this, this,
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Speaker 1: this this run. I'm like, okay, I got it. So Greg,
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Speaker 1: explain for the folks because there are a lot of
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Speaker 1: people who are watching, Yeah, don't understand the difference between
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Speaker 1: watching at home on Sunday on their couch on TV
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Speaker 1: and what kind of shot you get on TV camera
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Speaker 1: shot and then on the All twenty two like you
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Speaker 1: and the coaches watching the executives watch.
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Speaker 2: What does that tell you? Yeah?
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Speaker 3: And there's even things beyond that, which i'll just briefly
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Speaker 3: touch upon. But I learned a long time ago. I
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Speaker 3: started watching tape in maybe nineteen ninety one, nineteen ninety two,
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Speaker 3: and I had to learn the game through watching tape,
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Speaker 3: because the reality is, when you watch a game on TV,
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Speaker 3: you have truly very little idea of what's truly going
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Speaker 3: on from an X and O tactical perspective. That's just
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Speaker 3: the reality. It doesn't make anybody who watches tape smarter
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Speaker 3: than a fan. It's just a fan does not have
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Speaker 3: access to what is really happening on the field when
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Speaker 3: you watch a game on TV, because you really need
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Speaker 3: to see all twenty two players to have an understanding
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Speaker 3: of what's going on. And I'm fortunate with the coaching tape.
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Speaker 3: Not only do I see the all twenty two, but
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Speaker 3: I see two end zone angles, one from behind the offense,
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Speaker 3: one from behind the defense. So every play in the
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Speaker 3: game I see from three different angles. And you know,
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Speaker 3: I remember Merril Hodge telling me at a very early
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Speaker 3: point in my tape watching, and Meryll, for those who don't,
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Speaker 3: may not remember him if you're a younger watcher. Meryll
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Speaker 3: played in the league for a long time with the
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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers. He was on the Matchup show with Ron
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Speaker 3: Jaworski for I don't know fifteen eighteen years a long time,
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Speaker 3: and one of the first things he said, he said,
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Speaker 3: you know, TV lies, highlights really lie. So you have
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Speaker 3: to be careful when you watch a game on TV
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Speaker 3: making any you know, definitive kind of judgment as to
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Speaker 3: what's really happening from an X and O standpoint. And
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Speaker 3: the other point I would make to playoff what you
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Speaker 3: said about speaking to a coach is even someone like myself,
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Speaker 3: you don't know what they're asking players to do within
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Speaker 3: a specific scheme. So, for instance, if you're watching a
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Speaker 3: pass play and even if you feel like, oh, he
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Speaker 3: should have thrown it there, you don't know what the
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Speaker 3: read is specifically, you don't know how they've coached him
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Speaker 3: on that particular play. You don't know what that he's
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Speaker 3: being told. You don't know any of those things. So
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Speaker 3: you can watch even if you do have access to tape,
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Speaker 3: which more people do have access to these days, if
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Speaker 3: you really don't know any of that, there's no way
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Speaker 3: you can make any definitive judgment. I remember someone from
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Speaker 3: the NFL network years ago forget his name, but I
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Speaker 3: don't I don't know if he's with the network anymore.
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Speaker 3: He reached out to me maybe ten years ago, and
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Speaker 3: he said, hey, this is when tape first speak true coaching.
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Speaker 3: Tape became available to kind of everybody, you know. And
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Speaker 3: he said, hey, you know, I really want to, you know,
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Speaker 3: learn how to watch tape. Can you help me out?
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Speaker 3: And I, you know, he wrote a very long email,
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Speaker 3: great email, and I wanted to respond in kind. I
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Speaker 3: didn't want to, you know, just get back to him
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Speaker 3: and say nanna, And I wanted to really respond in kind.
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Speaker 3: So I reached out to him and I said, look,
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Speaker 3: I said, I don't know who you have access to.
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Speaker 3: But the way I learned the game was people had
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Speaker 3: to teach me how to watch tape. I didn't just
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Speaker 3: sit and watch tape and figured I knew what I
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Speaker 3: was looking at because quite frankly, when I started, I
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Speaker 3: had no idea of how to watch it all. And
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Speaker 3: it took me a long long time. And you're still
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Speaker 3: I'm still learning every day. But the point I'm trying
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Speaker 3: to make is I said to him, number one, you
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Speaker 3: need someone who can help teach you as you're watching.
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Speaker 3: I said, if you think you can have dinner with
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Speaker 3: your family, put your child to bed, and then go
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Speaker 3: in your basement and watch tape for twenty minutes or
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Speaker 3: a half hour and think you know what you're looking at.
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Speaker 3: You're going to have no idea. And you know, he
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Speaker 3: really appreciated that I said that. But you know, if
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Speaker 3: you have to have a really kind of advanced view
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Speaker 3: of what you're looking at. And like I said, it
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Speaker 3: took me a long time. I didn't feel comfortable at him.
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Speaker 3: I started watching tape in maybe nineteen ninety two. I
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Speaker 3: think it was when we got coaching tape. I got
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Speaker 3: to tell you, I didn't feel comfortable in the least
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Speaker 3: until maybe nineteen ninety eight, nineteen ninety nine, and.
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Speaker 2: I'm still learning.
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Speaker 3: Look, you would come to NFL films and say tending myself,
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Speaker 3: Ron Jaworski. I mean, you know, those were the sort
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Speaker 3: of the formative years for me, and I was learning
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Speaker 3: when I was fortunate to be around. You know, I'm
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Speaker 3: sure people who've listened to me know that I spent
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Speaker 3: time with Bill Walsh. I mean, when you sit with
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Speaker 3: someone like Bill Walsh, you feel like you know nothing
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Speaker 3: about anything. I mean, that's kind of you know, that's
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Speaker 3: kind of the way it is, you know, I mean,
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Speaker 3: it's just stories. Yeah, it takes a lot of time.
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Speaker 3: And the bottom line point is watching a game on
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Speaker 3: TV tells you very very little about what's really going.
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Speaker 1: On, right, because I remember you telling me a couple
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Speaker 1: of times, like you know, you're at home on Sunday
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Speaker 1: watching Red Zone. You go, Okay, this could be this
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Speaker 1: looks really good and you go in and it's totally
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Speaker 1: not what you thought.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Which is why a lot of people say
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Speaker 3: to me, Adam, A lot of people say, don't you
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Speaker 3: take notes when you watch on today? I said, no, Sunday,
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Speaker 3: I just put on Red Zone. I let it wash
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Speaker 3: over me. I know I'm going to see the tape,
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Speaker 3: you know, I don't study it when I'm watching on
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Speaker 3: the Red Zone. I enjoy it. You know, I'm a fan.
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Speaker 3: I'm a football fan. I enjoy it on Sundays.
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Speaker 1: Sure, sure, all right, Well, hey, that's that's a great
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Speaker 1: way to get inside the tape here on the Eagles
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Speaker 1: offense and Greg you've been talking about and so I
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Speaker 1: brought it up with with Jeffleman inside the Birds right
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Speaker 1: on the right shows they gotta help Jellen hurts get
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Speaker 1: off the better start. It's Kellenmorth struggled the same way
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Speaker 1: for several weeks last year, and yes, you could be aggressive,
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Speaker 1: but help your quarterback.
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Speaker 2: And I like Greg what they did early. What do
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Speaker 2: you think of their approach early on?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, their first two plays came out of twelve personnel.
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Speaker 3: They probably knew. See, this is the other thing. The
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Speaker 3: things we don't know is you know, look, I watch
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Speaker 3: tape every week, but I'm not studying like a team does.
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Speaker 3: I'm not studying the last four or five games of
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Speaker 3: the Cowboys in this anywhere near the same detail that
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Speaker 3: the that the Eagles coaches do, or any coach does
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Speaker 3: for the team that they're playing. I mean, I remember
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Speaker 3: just a quick aside when Dick Vermeil used to call
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Speaker 3: Ron Juworski, you know, we'd be sitting here at films,
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Speaker 3: and he would ask him about other things going on
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Speaker 3: in the league because all the coaches do is focus
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Speaker 3: on the team they're playing. I'm trying to watch every
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Speaker 3: game every week and I still can't even do that.
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Speaker 3: So my guess is the Eagles knew, based on their
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Speaker 3: film study that if they lined up in twelve personnel
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Speaker 3: they'd get corners off. So the first two players were
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Speaker 3: quick timing hitches to Brown outside the numbers versus off
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Speaker 3: coverage plays. To your point exactly, Adam get hurts into
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Speaker 3: an early rhythm because those are pitch and catch throws
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Speaker 3: and you gain yards and your quarterback now feels pretty
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Speaker 3: pretty good. Although on the third play, I really thought
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Speaker 3: that he left the pocket prematurely. They went no huddle
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Speaker 3: after the second play, and I thought Jalen left the
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Speaker 3: pocket prematurely and missed an opportunity for an easy completion
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Speaker 3: to calculatear on the shallow crosser.
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Speaker 2: Gotcha.
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Speaker 1: So this game, and when I got the game book
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Speaker 1: that confirmed it. They were heavy eleven personnel, which I
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Speaker 1: kind of thought they would do. Greg the overall in
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Speaker 1: terms of the personal approach, group is and so forth,
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Speaker 1: what do you think of the approach over the course
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Speaker 1: of the game.
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Speaker 3: I mean, they had forty three snaps eleven only eleven
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Speaker 3: snaps in twelve, so it was obviously heavy, and I
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Speaker 3: think they did that again, I'm just guessing based on
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Speaker 3: watching the Cowboys and what I think my understanding might be.
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Speaker 3: You know, the Cowboys have struggled in the secondary. You know, Revel.
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Speaker 3: They're rookie from East Carolina. I played his first game
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Speaker 3: last week, and I told you guys he would play
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Speaker 3: more this week for sure based on what I saw
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Speaker 3: last week, which he did. But they're still the weakness
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Speaker 3: of their defense is at the corner position, because even
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Speaker 3: though they paid Bland a ton of money, he's not
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Speaker 3: a really he's an average NFL corner. He's probably be
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Speaker 3: best suited in the slot, which is kind of where
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Speaker 3: they put him when Revel's in the game. So I
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Speaker 3: thought that, you know, if you go eleven personnel, you're
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Speaker 3: putting the Cowboys in their nickel defense. And I'm sure
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Speaker 3: they felt the same way that. You know what, they're
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Speaker 3: not real good on the back end, and we can
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Speaker 3: you know, we can do some things with eleven personnel.
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Speaker 1: Off first three series, Greg, I mean they move the
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Speaker 1: ball right, yeah, down the field. I know the Cowboys
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Speaker 1: had all sorts of comedy of ours and so forth,
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Speaker 1: but the Eagles were really sharp.
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Speaker 2: What did you like about those series where they scored?
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Speaker 2: You know, it's funny.
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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously we just talked about the beginning where
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Speaker 3: they got they got them into a rhythm because they're
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Speaker 3: selling on running the ball.
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Speaker 2: Very well at all awful to be honest with him.
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Speaker 3: You know, obviously that first drive in in with a
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Speaker 3: Brown sixteen yard touchdown, which was you know, I thought
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Speaker 3: that was well designed to create a boundary opportunity, which
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Speaker 3: we see. I see a lot with teams in the
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Speaker 3: high red zone they try to work to the two
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Speaker 3: receiver side because you have the back offset to that side,
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Speaker 3: and then you have your extra receiver who is Brown
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Speaker 3: on that play, and then your trips to the other side.
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Speaker 3: So the defense, because of trips to the wide side
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Speaker 3: of the field, they kind of pushed their coverage to
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Speaker 3: the to the trip side. There's three receivers there, so
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Speaker 3: you end up with a two man route concept, which
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Speaker 3: presents basically a one defender read for the most part,
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Speaker 3: and a lot of teams do this, and the one
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Speaker 3: defender that Jalen had to read was was Wilson. And
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Speaker 3: as soon as Wilson dropped down to Matt Shipley, who
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Speaker 3: released into the boundary, that's where he started into the
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Speaker 3: boundary anyway, then he knew that he had Brown one
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Speaker 3: on one versus Bland, and you'll take that match up
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Speaker 3: all day long. Bland can't cover Brown. So it wasn't
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Speaker 3: a great throw by the way, and Brown actually made
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Speaker 3: a very tough batch. But the concept was really good.
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Speaker 3: I liked it a lot, and it was good to
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Speaker 3: see it. But you know, the one thing I noticed
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Speaker 3: on that play, which then became part of the game,
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Speaker 3: was the detackle Quinton Williams drove Dickerson into the pocket.
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Speaker 3: And as the game progressed, I just kept noticing that
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Speaker 3: the old line was not playing particularly well, either run
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Speaker 3: blocking or in pass protection. And there's one thing that
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Speaker 3: really stood out at him and I think this is
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Speaker 3: a really important point. And I don't know why. I
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Speaker 3: wish I had the batphone and can call Jeff Stallin
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Speaker 3: right now, but they helped Jordan Mayolotta in this game
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Speaker 3: an awful lot. He was helped in pass protection thirteen
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Speaker 3: times where they chipped with you know, a tight end,
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Speaker 3: a wide receiver, a running back. They attached a tight
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Speaker 3: end to his side twelve times. It was as if
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Speaker 3: they felt he could not block one on one and
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Speaker 3: the Cowboys do not have a big time edge pass rusher.
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Speaker 3: So that just is something that we should keep an
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Speaker 3: eye on going forward to the rest of the season.
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Speaker 3: They clearly felt they had to help Jordan may Alta
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Speaker 3: in this game.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny we've talked about their offensive line,
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Speaker 1: the struggles. We know Jordanilata is not playing as well
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Speaker 1: as he has in years past. But you've always told
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Speaker 1: us Greg, coaches tell you what they think by what
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Speaker 1: they do, and you saw that that What's interesting is
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Speaker 1: I saw it a couple of times.
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Speaker 2: I had no idea, and this is how the tape
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Speaker 2: tells you. Many times they did it.
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Speaker 1: Wow with Parsons, with him being traded, you you wouldn't
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Speaker 1: think they'd have to worry about that.
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Speaker 2: Well now I.
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Speaker 1: Think right going forward and we'll see what Chicago could
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Speaker 1: do with their defensive front with Montes Wet wherever they've
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Speaker 1: got rushing. But I think it's something I'm gonna have
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Speaker 1: to look at going forward. You've noticed this before, have you?
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Speaker 2: No?
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Speaker 3: I noticed it immediately in this game.
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Speaker 2: But it's funny. Just what you said is what I type.
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Speaker 2: I said.
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Speaker 3: Coaching staff was telling us they were not comfortable with
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Speaker 3: my a lot in one on one pass protection.
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Speaker 2: We don't have to guess that, right. You know they
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Speaker 2: gave it, Yeah, they just didn't.
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Speaker 3: They were telling us that. I thought that on the
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Speaker 3: second t D drive because you're talking about early in
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Speaker 3: the game. Yes, you know, I mean, Adam, I don't
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Speaker 3: know how you felt. I actually had my daughter, son
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Speaker 3: in law, grandson over, so I was watching the game,
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Speaker 3: but I wasn't hearing a lot of it. But I
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Speaker 3: thought that when it was twenty one nothing, it felt
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Speaker 3: like a blowout. I was thinking to myself, this game's over.
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Speaker 1: But just a lot of people felt, well, Greg, I
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Speaker 1: got to be honest with you. Hurts us off to
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Speaker 1: a good start. Here's the thing. I know, sometimes we
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Speaker 1: want the ball here when he might put it here.
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Speaker 1: But he was accurate. Okay, you'll tell you a couple
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Speaker 1: of really good throws. We'll get to those here's the
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Speaker 1: thing I was going to tell you. I thought he
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Speaker 1: had one of the best throws of the season. Second
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Speaker 1: t TD drive. It was Brown twenty two yards on
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Speaker 1: third and five at him. You may remember the play.
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Speaker 1: It was a tight window in break versus his own coverage.
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Speaker 1: He showed out standing anticipation and timing, precise ball placement.
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Speaker 1: The Cowboys were in their five to one nickel and
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Speaker 1: that was the kind of throw that you love to see,
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Speaker 1: you know, that would be the kind of throw that
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Speaker 1: if any quarterback made it, I'd say, that's a big
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Speaker 1: time throw, you know, because it was a tight window
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Speaker 1: throw and that's what you want to see because you know,
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17:46
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17:49
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17:52
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18:01
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18:03
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18:08
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18:15
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Speaker 3: Well, of course he's made them in his career. He's
18:19
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18:22
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18:26
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18:29
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Speaker 1: Well, ye, so all right, let's get the run blocking.
20:59
Speaker 1: This is Greg, when I was running some numbers. I mean,
21:04
Speaker 1: this is just goes to show you how bad it's
21:06
Speaker 1: been for Saquon Barkley. He's on pace for seventeen games
21:10
Speaker 1: of one thousand and fifty seven yards. He had two
21:12
Speaker 1: thousand and five and sixteen games you're talking about. He's
21:15
Speaker 1: on pace for nearly one thousand yards last the season
21:18
Speaker 1: once he finishes. What what if you okay, so overview time,
21:23
Speaker 1: look at this game, Greg, you ten rushers twenty two yards.
21:27
Speaker 1: I know people wanted to run the second half. I
21:28
Speaker 1: thought it was ridiculous. Throw the football because they can't run?
21:31
Speaker 2: It?
21:32
Speaker 1: Is it miss blocks? Because I know that the O line.
21:35
Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about timing. I've asked you if
21:37
Speaker 1: you know if they've looked healthy. I know you didn't
21:40
Speaker 1: feel comfortable saying it, but there's something wrong here, Greg.
21:42
Speaker 1: How could they be this poor and run block again?
21:46
Speaker 2: You know?
21:47
Speaker 3: Look, the one thing that I know you say everybody's
21:50
Speaker 3: We've heard from everybody who's who's ever played the game,
21:53
Speaker 3: is if you're out there, it doesn't matter whether you
21:55
Speaker 3: have an injury or not. You're out there. That's the
21:58
Speaker 3: bottom line. Sure, you know, and someone like Landon Dickerson,
22:02
Speaker 3: who's a true warrior is not going to go into
22:04
Speaker 3: the locker room after a game and say, sorry, guys,
22:06
Speaker 3: my leg hurt so I couldn't block well today. You know,
22:08
Speaker 3: you can't say that in an NFL locker room. You know,
22:12
Speaker 3: if you're out there, you're playing. So I can't speak
22:15
Speaker 3: to whether someone is hurt or not hurt, but I
22:17
Speaker 3: can tell you right now that they are not winning.
22:19
Speaker 3: At the point of attack. Barkley has one of the
22:22
Speaker 3: lowest yards before first contact of any back in the league.
22:26
Speaker 3: In the league, and last year he led the league,
22:29
Speaker 3: he wasn't I think he was over four last year before.
22:32
Speaker 2: Any first contact. Now he's about two.
22:35
Speaker 3: So he's not getting past the first level. Now are
22:38
Speaker 3: there times where Barkley is missing a hole because I
22:41
Speaker 3: think what starts to happen with the back, and I
22:43
Speaker 3: think it's human nature, is you start looking for space.
22:47
Speaker 3: And that's just normal because all season long, for the
22:51
Speaker 3: most part, the design of the play the point of
22:54
Speaker 3: attack has not been clean. So what happens with backs
22:57
Speaker 3: is they start to look for space, and ninety nine
23:00
Speaker 3: percent of the time that just gets you in more
23:02
Speaker 3: trouble every once in a while, how you find it
23:04
Speaker 3: and it's great, but you can't play It's like quarterbacks
23:07
Speaker 3: who just run around every once in a while. It's
23:09
Speaker 3: beautiful and something great happens, but that's not the way
23:12
Speaker 3: you can go about playing the position.
23:14
Speaker 2: You can't.
23:15
Speaker 3: You know, you can't play the position of running back.
23:17
Speaker 3: And you even talked about that when we first started
23:19
Speaker 3: the conversation. If you talk to a coach and he'd say,
23:21
Speaker 3: what are you kidding me? There were five plays where
23:23
Speaker 3: he didn't do you know, I mean if hits right gap, yeah, yeah, yeah,
23:27
Speaker 3: So I think Barkley is groping and searching at times now,
23:32
Speaker 3: which makes it worse, by the way, not better, because
23:35
Speaker 3: the old line is just not moving people. They're getting
23:39
Speaker 3: beat they're not moving people.
23:40
Speaker 1: It's so hard to believe, Greg because they were arguably
23:43
Speaker 1: the NFL's past offensive line last season.
23:45
Speaker 2: Like the last two three years.
23:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, obviously they've had lines. How he's built
23:49
Speaker 1: such great lines over the years. And just because that,
23:53
Speaker 1: you just gave us the answer, they're not winning. That's
23:55
Speaker 1: that's not winning.
23:56
Speaker 2: That's enough. Yeah, I mean that that kind of tells me.
23:57
Speaker 3: So we don't forget even in twenty twenty two when
23:59
Speaker 3: they didn't have Barkley and they went to the Super Bowl,
24:02
Speaker 3: Sanders Miles Sanders had, you know, twelve hundred and seventy
24:05
Speaker 3: whatever he had. I mean, they had a good running
24:07
Speaker 3: game that year. That wasn't just Jalen Hurts, you know,
24:10
Speaker 3: that was a really good run game.
24:12
Speaker 2: Yeah. And Greg.
24:13
Speaker 1: One of the things that was troubling is Osa the
24:15
Speaker 1: Diggie Zua. He was in the backfield so many times.
24:18
Speaker 1: I know he's explosive times.
24:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, that too many times.
24:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's explosive. Another guy that people have asked us
24:26
Speaker 1: about in Wilmo as well. I know you're not charting it,
24:29
Speaker 1: but people have asked us about Tyler Steen. Everything I've
24:31
Speaker 1: been told is he's been average. You've seen him game
24:35
Speaker 1: after game. I know he's relatively new to this position,
24:37
Speaker 1: but I just don't know if it's been good enough
24:38
Speaker 1: so far.
24:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if he's I don't think what
24:43
Speaker 3: he is, even if he's going to be a good player,
24:45
Speaker 3: I don't think he's a strong player, you know what
24:48
Speaker 3: I mean. You know, Dicker said, I don't think he's
24:52
Speaker 3: played well this year, you know, relative to what he's
24:54
Speaker 3: done in previous years. But I don't think steen Is
25:00
Speaker 3: is a strong player.
25:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, remember he was. He was a left tackle on
25:04
Speaker 2: college at Alabama.
25:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not easy, as you've told us, and we
25:08
Speaker 1: know this. People just think you snap your fingers and
25:10
Speaker 1: go from tackle to guard.
25:11
Speaker 2: It's not that easy toestual. No, no, it's not so easy. Yeah. Yeah.
25:15
Speaker 2: The second half Greg was interesting.
25:16
Speaker 1: So you know, they're moving the ball and some drives
25:20
Speaker 1: and one series they had back to back penalties. They
25:23
Speaker 1: had four penalties that crushed drives. It was frustrating because
25:26
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, they're moving it. Then penalty penalty. Godd
25:30
Speaker 1: Or gets involved, penalty. Smith has a nineteen yard catch penalty.
25:35
Speaker 1: You know, people, it's just because we we've been very
25:38
Speaker 1: critical of what we've seen from the off of the
25:40
Speaker 1: offense for weeks and we finally start seeing some good stuff.
25:43
Speaker 2: But then the self inflicted once.
25:45
Speaker 1: I know it's not an analysis analysis piece here, but
25:48
Speaker 1: to me, that that crushed the rhythm.
25:50
Speaker 3: And then it's funny you say that that year, that
25:52
Speaker 3: nineteen yard catch to Smith that you just referenced, that
25:56
Speaker 3: was actually a beautiful route design that was that was
25:59
Speaker 3: actually the flood concept and that was really effective. Smith
26:05
Speaker 3: was open. It was really well schemed, well designed. And
26:09
Speaker 3: then Fred Johnson got called for hands to the face.
26:12
Speaker 3: But that was a play where when I saw it,
26:14
Speaker 3: I was like, wow, that that I really liked it.
26:17
Speaker 2: But unfortunately they had the penalty.
26:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was you know, that was the ster
26:21
Speaker 1: Fred Johnson to three penalties. They had fourteen overall including
26:24
Speaker 1: special teams they had won, by the way, were penalties
26:27
Speaker 1: off sets, so they actually had fifteen. It's it's tough, man.
26:31
Speaker 1: It's tough, Greg when you're trying to get on a
26:33
Speaker 1: roll here and you can't. But Greg, as we turned
26:36
Speaker 1: the page, we have the Chicago Bears coming into Pilly
26:39
Speaker 1: on Friday, and I thought, when they schedule this game
26:40
Speaker 1: for Amazon, ah, good to see Caleb.
26:42
Speaker 2: We'll see Caleb Williams this year.
26:44
Speaker 1: That's fine. We'll see how Ben Johnson does with him.
26:46
Speaker 1: I didn't think they'd have the same record Gregor's Eagles
26:48
Speaker 1: due heading into week two time, I am shocked.
26:53
Speaker 3: God talk more about the Bears, you know, in a
26:55
Speaker 3: couple of days. But you know, I think just one
26:58
Speaker 3: thing to throw out there, just for something for fans
27:01
Speaker 3: to think about, is This is going to be difficult
27:04
Speaker 3: on their back end because without Mukuba and Blancanship, safeties
27:10
Speaker 3: are so important for the Eagles defense and that's where
27:14
Speaker 3: a lot of Ben Johnson's route concepts really attack is
27:18
Speaker 3: the middle of the field. So just something to keep
27:21
Speaker 3: in mind. We can get into more detail on that
27:23
Speaker 3: in a couple of days. But that's a big deal.
27:25
Speaker 3: That's a really I mean, we know mccoob is out,
27:27
Speaker 3: you know, pretty much for the rest of the season.
27:29
Speaker 3: Blancanship is not going to play Friday. I can't imagine
27:33
Speaker 3: he's going to play Friday at him. You know.
27:36
Speaker 1: In fact, he's got that thigh injury. He left thigh injury.
27:40
Speaker 1: He just couldn't come back in the game. So that's
27:42
Speaker 1: not a good sign. And Citney Brown and again we
27:44
Speaker 1: will talk on the defensive part of the show. But yeah, yeah,
27:48
Speaker 1: it's it's tough man on the short weeks. Short weeks
27:50
Speaker 1: are very, very difficult, There's no question about it.
27:52
Speaker 2: All right.
27:53
Speaker 1: For Greg co Sell on inside the tape, I'm Adam Kaplan.
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Speaker 1: We'll speak to you soon, Red Red and