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The entire broadcast from Thursday 06/11/26 · Ron Verb

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  Speaker 1: All right, here we go. News Radio 570. Don't you
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  Speaker 1: carry on and run for 307 here in the afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: Nice to be with you here. What are we sitting with?
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  Speaker 1: Seventy nine degrees and cloudy. Some rain in the forecast
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  Speaker 1: and in various vicinities here as we get underway on
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  Speaker 1: this Thursday. Legal show at five tonight. John Arnold's money
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  Speaker 1: talks at six. And in the meantime, we conversate. I
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  Speaker 1: get to phone calls momentarily, but I think Dave Thomas
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  Speaker 1: is out there as well.
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  Speaker 2: Hello?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, hi.
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  Speaker 4: How are you doing, Ron? Good.
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  Speaker 1: How are you? Good.
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  Speaker 5: I had a call back. I called right at the
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  Speaker 5: tail end of the G2 yesterday. You had fascinating callers on,
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  Speaker 5: and I enjoyed that gentleman from Palestine, the Palestinian, talking
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  Speaker 5: about his relatives.
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  Speaker 1: I thought he was– he offered great insight. I mean, yes,
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  Speaker 1: I thought the guy was just– I just saw the..
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  Speaker 5: I remember him calling in the past, and I wish
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  Speaker 5: he would.
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  Speaker 3: Call more often.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And then you had the guy that called. I don't
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  Speaker 5: know if he was Mark Levin. He was saying, where
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  Speaker 5: are the bodies buried in Gaza? He goes, in other words,
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  Speaker 5: there wasn't a genocide. And if he's listening, there were
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  Speaker 5: 72,000 Palestinians killed. They were buried in mass graves. There
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  Speaker 5: are two big mass graves, Nasser Hospital and Air Sharif Hospital.
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  Speaker 5: They're in parking lots. They're in backyards. They're under rubble.
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  Speaker 5: And if you ever look at it, Elon Musk put
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  Speaker 5: a picture up on X of Gaza before and after
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  Speaker 5: the attacks.
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  Speaker 2: Beautiful, beautiful.
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  Speaker 5: It was a wonderful area. And then after the attacks,
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  Speaker 5: it looks like the moonscape. There's rubble everywhere. And then
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  Speaker 5: what really touched a nerve was when G2 brought up
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  Speaker 5: the attack on the USS Liberty. And I followed that
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  Speaker 5: for many years, and I've read a couple of books
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  Speaker 5: on it. And that was a premeditated attack. And what
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  Speaker 5: I wanted to tell G2, and I think he knew this,
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  Speaker 5: was that they called off the rescue, LBJ and Robert McNamara,
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  Speaker 5: personally called off the rescue jets that were going to
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  Speaker 5: come to the aid of the USS Liberty. And it
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  Speaker 5: was sad. Those pilots turned around and not like, I
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  Speaker 5: don't know if you remember Benghazi, when you had our
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  Speaker 5: embassy was being attacked and you had four ex-SEALs that
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  Speaker 5: worked for the CIA as security contractors. They were Tyrone Woods,
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  Speaker 5: Glenn Daugherty. They were told to stand down by the
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  Speaker 5: State Department and Hillary Clinton, and they refused to do so.
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  Speaker 5: They rescued so many people in Benghazi, and it only
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  Speaker 5: resulted in four deaths. One was the ambassador, and the
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  Speaker 5: others were the ex-SEALs and CIA contractors. But I can't
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  Speaker 5: believe that those pilots would have turned back and said,
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  Speaker 5: i don't know if she to notice but in in
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  Speaker 5: the book at the it's called the attack on the
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  Speaker 5: liberty it was from two thousand nine the authors uh...
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  Speaker 5: but james scott he gives a timeline of the assault
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  Speaker 5: and the declassified documents and that's when it came out
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  Speaker 5: about uh... lbj our president our democratic president and mac
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  Speaker 5: the mayor how could you what your assail would be
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  Speaker 5: attacked you're the leader of the country but uh... Getting
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  Speaker 5: back to it real quick, showing that it was premeditated,
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  Speaker 5: that happened on June the 8th, 1967. But in the book,
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  Speaker 5: on the timeline, on June the 7th, the day before
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  Speaker 5: the Liberty, this was day four of the Six-Day Israeli War.
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  Speaker 5: On the 7th, the Israeli jets were flying over the Liberty,
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  Speaker 5: Flying around it, they had boats flying around it. It
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  Speaker 5: was identified as a U.S.
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  Speaker 4: Ship.
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  Speaker 5: It wasn't until the next day that the attack occurred.
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  Speaker 5: And what they did when they were sending out SOS calls..
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  Speaker 7: Urgent weather message The National Weather Service in Pittsburgh has
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  Speaker 7: issued a severe thunderstorm warning for Northeastern Belmont County in
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  Speaker 7: East Central Ohio, Southeastern Jefferson, Ohio County in East Central Ohio,
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  Speaker 7: Allegheny County in Southwestern Pennsylvania, Washington County in Southwestern Pennsylvania,
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  Speaker 7: Northwestern Westmoreland County in Southwestern Pennsylvania, Southwestern Armstrong County in
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  Speaker 7: West Central Pennsylvania, Butler County in West Central Pennsylvania, South
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  Speaker 7: Central Clarion County in West Central Pennsylvania, Eastern Beaver County
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  Speaker 7: in western Pennsylvania, southeastern Lawrence County in western Pennsylvania, Brooke
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  Speaker 7: County in northern West Virginia, Ohio County in northern West Virginia,
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  Speaker 7: until 4.15 p.m.
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  Speaker 4: EDT.
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  Speaker 7: At 3.10 p.m. EDT, severe thunderstorms were located along a
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  Speaker 7: line from 7 miles north of Zillianople to near West Liberty,
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  Speaker 7: or along a line from 11 miles west of Butler
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  Speaker 7: to near Clearview, moving east at 30 mph. Hazard, 70
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  Speaker 7: miles per hour wind gusts. Source, law enforcement reported. Impact,
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  Speaker 7: expect considerable tree damage. Damage is likely to mobile homes, roofs.
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  Speaker 4: And outbuildings.
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  Speaker 7: Locations impacted include Pittsburgh, Penn Hills, Mount Lebanon, Bethel Park,
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  Speaker 7: Ross Township, Wheeling, McCandless Township, Monroeville, Cranberry, Moon Township, McMurray, McKeesport, Butler, Washington,
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  Speaker 7: Franklin Park, Aliquippa, Canonsburg, Martins Ferry, and Monica. Numerous trees
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  Speaker 7: and wires have been reported down along this line of storms.
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  Speaker 7: Anyone outdoors should move to shelter inside a well-built structure
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  Speaker 7: and stay away from windows. These storms have produced widespread
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  Speaker 7: damaging winds. Report severe weather to your nearest law enforcement
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  Speaker 7: agency or the National Weather Service office in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Repeating,
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  Speaker 7: a severe thunderstorm warning has been issued until 4.15 p.m.
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  Speaker 2: Eastern.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so be advised of that. All right, go
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  Speaker 1: ahead and finish your thoughts, please.
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  Speaker 5: Sure, real quick. It's a good day to stay inside
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  Speaker 5: and listen to the radio in the air conditioning. I
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  Speaker 5: was golfing up in Kent yesterday with a cousin of mine.
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  Speaker 5: He said, how often do you call that show? I said,
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  Speaker 5: what show? He said, the Ron Verb show. I said,
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  Speaker 5: do you listen to that? His name's Dr.
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  Speaker 8: Ford.
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  Speaker 5: If he's listening, you have a strong signal. He lives
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  Speaker 5: in Hudson, but he follows you, and I was surprised
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  Speaker 5: about that. But getting back real quick to the... Liberty.
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  Speaker 5: If it wasn't for Congressman Massey that had the survivors
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  Speaker 5: in Washington, he's getting a lot more attention coming out.
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  Speaker 5: And the Israelis finally admitted, at first they said it
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  Speaker 5: was an accident. It was a blatant attack. But in 1968,
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  Speaker 5: the victims' families filed suit, and the Israelis were forced
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  Speaker 5: to pay $ 12. 8 million in compensation to went to the families,
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  Speaker 5: and then in 1969, the wounded crew members got part
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  Speaker 5: of the settlement. And then in 1980, the Israelis paid
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  Speaker 5: for the ship itself, the damages to the ship, due
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  Speaker 5: to lawsuits. But they paid with, I believe it was U.S.
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  Speaker 5: taxpayer money from the United States.
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  Speaker 1: Naturally, we give them billions.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, we give them billions. And to talk about giving
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  Speaker 5: them billions, we're still giving the Taliban billions. $ 40 million
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  Speaker 5: a week, thanks to John Toon, Senator Toon. And I
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  Speaker 5: don't know why they can't stop that. But anyway, you
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  Speaker 5: see the markets turned around because of the announcement from
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  Speaker 5: Trump saying that he's not going to attack tonight. And
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  Speaker 5: what he did do yesterday, and I was telling G2
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  Speaker 5: when it was towards the tail end, that we did
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  Speaker 5: attack two water reservoirs. that are very important because they're
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  Speaker 5: having a severe water water shortage now in iran it's
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  Speaker 5: affecting civilians and uh... that would classify as a war
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  Speaker 5: crime and were complicit or involved will be only country
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  Speaker 5: that this with israel on the genocide in gaza and
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  Speaker 5: lebanon and now we're attacking water reservoirs but thank god
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  Speaker 5: that uh... trump called it off Speaking of calling it off,
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  Speaker 5: I wish I would have had that inside information at
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  Speaker 5: 1.30 when that announcement came out and everything spiked. I'm
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  Speaker 5: sure there were people that made a few bucks in
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  Speaker 5: the market on that.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be shocked about it at all. You mean
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  Speaker 1: as far as insiders out of D.C.? the Trump circle
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. I'm sure that there are many insiders that
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  Speaker 1: made a bundle of money because the Dow jumped 700 points.
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  Speaker 1: Oil tumbles as Trump cancels evening strikes against Iran. It's interesting.
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  Speaker 1: It's interesting how he can change, spike the markets and
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  Speaker 1: bring it down simply by what he's saying. And if
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  Speaker 1: you've got that inside information, you obviously can make a
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  Speaker 1: lot of money on it. And I suspect people are.
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  Speaker 5: You know how many times this year he's announced a
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  Speaker 5: peace deal was near or imminent?
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  Speaker 1: About 30. About 30. 38 times.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: That's the poll.
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  Speaker 1: And now they're announcing today that... a deal is near.
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  Speaker 1: So we shall see. I really hope there is because
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  Speaker 1: this has got to come to a conclusion. I hope
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  Speaker 1: there is a deal. I hope there is one that's near.
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  Speaker 1: If not, I think we have big trouble. Well, you
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  Speaker 1: heard the inflation numbers that were just given out during
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  Speaker 1: our news at 3 o'clock. They're significant. And if this
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  Speaker 1: continues to go on, I'll say once again, I think
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  Speaker 1: your gasoline prices, oil prices, and inflation will all go
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  Speaker 1: up if this continues on. through July and August. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it will be a pleasant economic experience for
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  Speaker 1: us here at all.
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  Speaker 5: I think we're in big trouble. And you know what?
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  Speaker 5: I like Trump. I support Trump. I wouldn't vote for
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  Speaker 5: a Democrat. But when it comes to real estate and
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  Speaker 5: making deals, the art of the deal, he's good. But
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  Speaker 5: when it comes to... foreign policy, it seems he's got
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  Speaker 5: the Midas touch in reverse. I mean, he doesn't know
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  Speaker 5: how to get out of conflicts that he put us in.
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  Speaker 5: And Tucker had a fascinating..
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  Speaker 1: Well, the best way to get out of them is
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  Speaker 1: don't get in them in the first place.
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  Speaker 5: Exactly. And Tucker had a guy on his latest interview,
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  Speaker 5: Professor Mearsheimer. It's International Relations from the University of Chicago
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  Speaker 5: talking about... well, he was talking about Russia and Ukraine, that,
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  Speaker 5: you know, and I really, it opened my eyes because
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  Speaker 5: I was always critical of General Milley and Obama, but, and,
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  Speaker 5: and Biden. But during, during the war, when it started,
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  Speaker 5: with Ukraine and Russia, General Milley advised that we come
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  Speaker 5: to a negotiated peace settlement and, um, He was told
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  Speaker 5: to stand down and shut up, cease and desist. That
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  Speaker 5: was in 2023. Because we wanted to, we, I don't
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  Speaker 5: know who that was, IPAC, the lobbyists, whoever, wanted the
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  Speaker 5: conflict to go on and keep the sanctions in place.
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  Speaker 5: But it didn't work out. And now it's coming out
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  Speaker 5: that Russia is talking about attacking NATO. I don't know
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  Speaker 5: if you saw that.
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  Speaker 1: I did not.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, and what bothers me, that might escalate into using nukes.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we can only hope not. That's a whole other topic.
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  Speaker 1: We shall see where this goes. I certainly hope Trump
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  Speaker 1: is accurate that a deal is near or he's once
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  Speaker 1: again talking about one as I look at it today.
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  Speaker 1: I hope that's accurate. I've been down this road 30-something
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  Speaker 1: times with him, and he called off the strike and
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  Speaker 1: the market has ticked up. I hope this time it
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  Speaker 1: happens and we can reach a conclusion on this. and
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  Speaker 1: hopefully get time to heal as far as our economy
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  Speaker 1: is concerned and our energy prices. We shall see. Stay
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  Speaker 1: in touch with me tomorrow and let me know. It's
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  Speaker 1: an ever-changing event. I appreciate your insight. Smart guy. You're
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  Speaker 1: on the air.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, Ron, it's David.
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  Speaker 1: That's who I'm looking for. Dave Thomas, state rep, NewsRadio
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  Speaker 1: 570 WQN. All right, so a few things that we
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  Speaker 1: have to cover with you here. Call us a line standby.
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  Speaker 1: I'll get to you. Coming up, that's... we are going
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  Speaker 1: on as far as the states uh... is concerns that uh...
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  Speaker 1: we want you to be cognizant of let's see uh...
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  Speaker 1: let's talk about medicaid fraud what's the latest on that
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  Speaker 1: and daycare fraud.
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  Speaker 6: Yes so we passed um... tuesday and wednesday we were
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  Speaker 6: actually uh... in session late into the evening slash morning uh...
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  Speaker 6: passing almost about fifty bills lot different topics uh... two
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  Speaker 6: of them dealt with medicare I'm sorry, Medicaid and the
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  Speaker 6: child care fraud issues. So, on the child care side,
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  Speaker 6: folks can look up House Bill 647. This one deals
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  Speaker 6: specifically with child care. And what we saw that came
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  Speaker 6: out of some of the reports back in January with
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  Speaker 6: child care issues, essentially... Daycare centers billing for kids that
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  Speaker 6: went there.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: You've got to hold that thought. Let me do my
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  Speaker 1: commercial so I can write back, chat with Dave Thomas
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  Speaker 1: about a few areas, get to calls and more. Straight ahead,
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  Speaker 1: NewsRadio 570. WKBN.
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  Speaker 9: Youngstown's news, weather, and talk station, 570 WKBN.
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  Speaker 1: Back to it, 325 in the afternoon. All right, pick
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  Speaker 1: it up. We're talking about daycare and Medicaid fraud.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: So this daycare one, hospital 647, this does a lot
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  Speaker 6: of things that you think are pretty common sense, but
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  Speaker 6: we didn't have in place prior to what happened in January.
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  Speaker 6: So there's kind of direct data with each individual child
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  Speaker 6: that goes then to the Department of Children and Youth
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  Speaker 6: in Columbus. That way they can track where the kids are.
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  Speaker 6: There's actual kind of digital tracking with them so that
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  Speaker 6: they know when they're in the building, when they're not,
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  Speaker 6: how many days they're there. reimbursement wise. We change up
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  Speaker 6: some of the reimbursement side too. So there were centers
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  Speaker 6: that were just saying, Hey, Johnny's here, you know, four
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  Speaker 6: days a week. Hey us, Johnny was never there. Now
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  Speaker 6: we'll actually be able to track. We'll know. This also
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  Speaker 6: gives the attorney general the authority right now. They do
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  Speaker 6: not have this. If Franklin County, if there's a fraud
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  Speaker 6: issue in Franklin County, that prosecutor is the one that's
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  Speaker 6: responsible for it. Prosecutor in Franklin County is not going
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  Speaker 6: to prosecute. or go after these types of things. The
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  Speaker 6: attorney general can then step in, even in these types
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  Speaker 6: of situations, take over, um, and, uh, prosecute. So that's
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  Speaker 6: a handful of things that just right away we're able
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  Speaker 6: to pass with 647. Um, those are some of the
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  Speaker 6: loopholes that folks have kind of exploited, um, especially some
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  Speaker 6: of those zip codes in Franklin County, um, some of
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  Speaker 6: those different populations and, uh, This now moves over to
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  Speaker 6: the Senate. So we passed it late last night. It
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  Speaker 6: moves over to the Senate, and they'll have to take
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  Speaker 6: action on it now.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think it'll pass there? Yes or no?
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: All right. So, I mean, this thing has to happen
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  Speaker 1: relatively quickly, so there's accountability for the money being paid
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  Speaker 1: out and Medicaid fraud and daycare fraud, correct?
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and that was just the daycare one, the Medicaid one,
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  Speaker 6: and there's a lot here. This is Senate Bill 315.
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  Speaker 6: This is actually already going to the governor's desk. So
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  Speaker 6: we passed this one very late last night. And this
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  Speaker 6: one hits at all of the Medicaid issues that we've
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  Speaker 6: been seeing as well. And it's somewhat similar. There was
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  Speaker 6: just never the actual ability to track, have electronic verification,
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  Speaker 6: GPS verification for these different providers that said that they
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  Speaker 6: were visiting grandma or visiting their someone who is disabled,
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  Speaker 6: to provide health care services or respite care, for example,
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  Speaker 6: is what they call it. So this sets up, after
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  Speaker 6: the governor vetoed that last budget, this sets up that
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  Speaker 6: type of tracking to make sure that they are going
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  Speaker 6: where they're going. We're increasing the penalties quite heavily for
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  Speaker 6: Medicaid fraud, which previously were almost misdemeanors. They were very,
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  Speaker 6: very little. Now we're ramping those up quite a bit
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  Speaker 6: for the actual penalties if you're found guilty of stealing
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  Speaker 6: his money or committing fraud with Medicaid.
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  Speaker 1: All right, and that's a done deal other than DeWine
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  Speaker 1: has to sign it. Do you believe he will?
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  Speaker 6: That's going to be one of the questions.
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  Speaker 9: NewsRadio 570 WKVN.
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  Speaker 1: All right, back to it. NewsRadio 570 WKVN. Isn't this interesting,
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  Speaker 1: State Rep. Dave Thomas? So you don't know if DeWine
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  Speaker 1: is going to sign this bill. Explain the bill once
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  Speaker 1: again and what it does.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: So this is Senate bill three 15. This was passed
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  Speaker 6: late last night. It's on its way to the governor.
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  Speaker 6: This overhauls the Medicaid system. So it puts a lot
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  Speaker 6: of checks and balances into Medicaid that were not there
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  Speaker 6: and was the reason you saw a lot of the
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  Speaker 6: issues earlier this year and still with Medicaid, especially around
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  Speaker 6: Franklin County. Um, you do a lot of kind of
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  Speaker 6: basic things like even additionally from what I said earlier,
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  Speaker 6: requiring on-site in-person inspections before you get a license to
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  Speaker 6: become a Medicaid provider, um, have a certain kind of
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  Speaker 6: like payment systems set up where if, if there's a
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  Speaker 6: strange payment, um, kind of like a back pattern where
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  Speaker 6: they're going, a lot of payments from different organizations are
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  Speaker 6: going to one same account or going to one same address,
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  Speaker 6: like there's something wrong with that, setting up things like that. Um,
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  Speaker 6: or even, um, actual pre-authorization before certain expenses are made
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  Speaker 6: for patients. On top of all the GPS verification, all
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  Speaker 6: the auditing verification, a lot of this is what legislatures
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  Speaker 6: try to do. The governor's vetoed. That's why we're not
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  Speaker 6: really sure quite how he's going to respond yet, but
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  Speaker 6: I'm hopeful he's going to sign it.
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  Speaker 1: We shall see. I don't know why he wouldn't sign
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  Speaker 1: it other than he, well, he should sign it. Let's
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  Speaker 1: put it that way. Anything he does doesn't surprise me,
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  Speaker 1: to say the least, when it comes to Governor DeWine.
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  Speaker 1: It's been very disappointing. So that is Medicaid fraud, daycare
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  Speaker 1: fraud bill, tax relief bill passed. What's that?
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  Speaker 6: Yes, so you've probably heard a little bit about the
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  Speaker 6: overages that the state has. So we cut the income
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  Speaker 6: tax again last year, another almost half a percent. Now
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: Ohio has the lowest flat tax in the nation. But
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: we've actually been bringing in even more money by cutting
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: the tax, which just shows market activity. People are making
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: more type of thing. So we budgeted for less in
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: our budget this past year, but we've gotten them more
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: because So we have about a $ 1. 5 billion kind of
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: overage right now. And there's been a lot of questions
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: about what to actually do with some of that money.
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: So one of our bills that we passed late yesterday
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: as well, it's House Bill 479. Folks can look this up.
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: It directs some of this money different places. One of
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: the provisions, there will be a $ 350 million credit given
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: to those on homes instead. That is seniors who are
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: over 65, those that are essentially making social security or
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: a little over social security, about $ 38, 000 a year. Those
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: folks that are on Homestead will see on average, especially
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: in our area, a doubling of their Homestead credit from
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: this overage amount. So we are actually reimbursing locals and
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: we're saying those folks on Homestead will see a doubling,
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: about $ 500 on average. to their tax bills in January
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: of next year, every homestead recipient in the state.
• 21:38
  Speaker 10: Um, all right.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: So remember when you had the overage one other year,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: you made the sales tax holiday include a bunch of
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: other stuff and up the limits. I mean, why don't
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: we do that?
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: And that's next. So on top of that 350, the
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: homestead folks were doing 320 million into that sales tax
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: holiday fund for, um, I'm not entirely sure. I think
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: we have to do it in the budget prior to
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: the year. So this will be for next year's sales
• 22:06
  Speaker 6: tax holiday. That will be extended once again, just like
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: we've had in previous years. This will be half of
• 22:12
  Speaker 6: the month of August, so the 1st through the 15th.
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: And then anything under $ 500, sales tax-free for.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: That whole period.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: In what, 2027? Correct, yep, next year.
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: This is all for next year's.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: Next year's budget.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: So, I mean, I thought that was a good idea.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: So anything you bought, anything, $ 500 or less, there wasn't
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: a sales tax on it. So I thought that was good.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: So that'll be coming as a result of the overage.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Why don't we stop the overage in the future?
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: I kind of joke with folks. Not that we tried,
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: but I cut an income tax again. We actually cut
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: the income tax roughly $ 2 billion. And the Democrats during
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: that budget, they were saying, we're going to be in
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: the deficit. We're going to lose this $ 2 billion.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: And they were wrong.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: You cut it and erased more money.
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: Exactly.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: It was exactly opposite what the Democrats said. You lowered
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: the income tax rate and it brought in more money,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: not less money.
• 23:14
  Speaker 11: Yes.
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: And on the back end, so we keep using some
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: of this to then decrease more of the income tax.
• 23:22
  Speaker 6: You'll see that again next year. And the sales tax
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: holiday fund, more money for seniors for that homestead side.
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: And then we're using $ 200 million to actually pay off
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: certain debts that we're not spending more on. interest on
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: bonds and different things like that. It's trying to lower
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: than our actual debt amount as well.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be refreshing? I was listening where Governor DeSantis
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: in Florida is bragging how this is another year where
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: they're spending less money than they did the year before.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: And they did that the year before that. I mean,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: he's got a consistent record as governor of spending less
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: money each year than he did the year before. Wouldn't
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: that be refreshing to see that happen for a change
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: by government?
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: That absolutely would be.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: But I shouldn't hold my breath. But, I mean, they're
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: doing it in Florida. I mean, it's really something to
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: watch that happen. And basically to brag about it, hey,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: guess what? We're spending less money this year than we
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: did last year than we did the year before. So
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: they're going in the right direction as opposed to increasing
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: government spending every year.
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: I would say hold your breath until our next budget
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: with Governor Ramaswamy.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Hopefully.
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: And like I tell folks, buckle up.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and that's hopefully because if you believe polling,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, polling, it could be neck and neck with
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Amy Acton and Ramaswamy. And if you believe the polling,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: then Sherrod Brown is ahead of Houston, if you believe
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: the polling. We shall see. Of course, it's a long
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: time between then and now, and a lot depends on
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: what happens in Iran and inflation and this war situation.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: And if you have a blue wave as a result
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: of all of that. I mean, so there's so many variables,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: it's hard to predict. But if you look at what
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: it is now, Amy Acton's doing pretty good as far
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: as governor, and Sherrod Brown's doing pretty good as far
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: as returning to the Senate. Much to my chagrin.
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: I think once folks, Sherrod Brown's his own thing. But
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: especially Amy Acton, once folks pay a little bit of
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: attention to what she's actually proposing, what an Ohio would
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: look like under her, those polls, even if they're frustrated
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: and they're upset, I think we're going to see those
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: polls tightening, especially over the summer.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: But you're right.
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: If we still have $ 5 gas, if inflation keeps going
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: up through the roof and people just don't see a
• 25:47
  Speaker 6: reason to vote to stay.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Home, Right.
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: And, yeah, we'll have an Amy Acton governor.
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: And then you'll really see a nightmare happen. I mean,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: this is the Amy Acton that quits when she couldn't
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: take the heat as the state's doctor. How's she going
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: to handle governor?
• 26:03
  Speaker 6: This is the Amy Acton who's promising to spend about
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: $ 20 billion in her first budget on... above and beyond
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: things that we're already spending now on top of giving
• 26:12
  Speaker 6: schools all that they want on top.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Of everything else. Yeah, growing governments, needing more money. I mean,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: it's going in totally the opposite direction. If you vote
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: for Sherrod Brown or Amy Acton, you should have your
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: head examined. I mean, absolutely. Sherrod Brown supported every lunatic
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: thing Joe Biden was for. Every single thing. And Amy
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: Acton is a far left person as well. So DeWine's
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: got to get his act together, though, as far as
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: I'm concerned, and start signing his stuff. I mean, first
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: and foremost, this stuff should have never happened in the
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: first place. Are we in agreement there, this fraud in Ohio?
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Should have never happened in the first place.
• 26:49
  Speaker 11: 100%.
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: And it's horrible that It took what it did.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Here's what happened. I mean, would you not agree this
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: was going on? We're never going to get the money back.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: It was going on in Minnesota. The only way this
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: came to light was because of this young Nick Shirley
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: who brought it to light in Minnesota, and then it
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: started to come to light in Ohio. If it wasn't
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: for him and that old guy that was really his
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: research guy, I don't know that we would even be
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: aware of it in Ohio. But I'm glad we are
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: aware of it. But I sit back as a taxpayer saying,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: where was the check and balance system when all of
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: this was going on? Once the money's stolen and gone,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: it's stolen and gone. You're never going to get the
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: money back from the Somalian community. So will anybody go
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: to jail? I mean, I'll wait to see that. And
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I'm glad to see that there's check and balances. You
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: say you've got a daycare, you say these kids are
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: showing up, well, now you've got to prove it. You
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: say you're taking care of some relative, well, now you've
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: got to prove it. And stop the fraud that's going on.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: And I think all of this should be signed, it
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: should get underway immediately. Would you agree?
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and these were things, and it just shows that sometimes,
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: I hate to say it, but sometimes it takes a
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: crisis to actually move people into action. we have put
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: a lot of this in the previous year's budgets, vetoed,
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: weren't able to get enough votes to override vetoes, weren't
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: able to get enough public support behind us to motivate members.
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: And now, you know, these bills were put together in
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: about one month, signed by both chambers, passed, pushed.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, they're moving at great speed, as they should
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: be moving. The constitutional amendment... Did it pass for voter
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: ID in Ohio?
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: So, um, so, uh, that's SGR. And that is a
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: constitutional amendment that folks will see on their ballot this November.
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: And what this constitutional amendment says is that photo ID,
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: it's a floor, it's essentially a base level that puts
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: our current practice into law, into the constitution. As we're worried,
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: future inter-assemblies, future governors, future, Democratic Secretary of State, she
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: actually voted against this, the Democrat running for Secretary of State.
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: We're worried if they get into office, they'll then pull
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: back our photo ID requirements for voting.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: So this will be on my ballot in November?
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: All right, which basically says we keep the system we have.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: When I show up at the church, I've got to
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: show my ID to vote, right?
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: Yes, photo ID in person, and then there's a huge question,
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: lots of conversations over mail-in ballots. And what type of ID,
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: photo ID, do you have to show with mail-in ballots?
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: So constitutional amendment is that floor. It's that guaranteed amount
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: of essentially validation of the photo. But we simultaneously passed
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: House Bill 472. And folks can look at any of
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: these house bills on our website and read them and
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: see summaries. And what House Bill 472 says is that
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: if you are doing mail-in balloting, you are requesting an
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: absentee ballot to be mailed to you, filling it out,
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: mailing it back in, there are now extra levels of
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: essentially protection you have to go through in order to
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: get that ballot in return.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: And that will include... either having an actual copy of
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: your photo ID. So instead of you going, voting in person,
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: showing them your ID, you're actually making a copy, turning
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: it out, putting it into the envelope, sending it in
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: the board of elections to show this is the person,
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: this is who's submitting, or we're following a model from Kentucky.
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: She uses an online portal, similar to like the Bureau
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: of Motor Vehicles, but their secretary of state's office. That's
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: how you can request your absentee ballot instead. If you
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: don't want to do it through the mail, you request
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: it that way. They'll mail it to you. But you
• 31:02
  Speaker 6: can actually upload your driver's license as a way to show,
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: I am who I say I am. Here's my ID.
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: Here's my Social Security number. Here's my details. Send me
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: my absentee mail-in ballot.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Well, I'll be voting for that in November because I
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: think how we do elections in Ohio is the right way,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: unlike California where they mail everybody a ballot. They just
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: mail it out, like I say a million times. How
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: do they know that you're not dead? How do they
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: know that you haven't moved? Who's voting that ballot? It's
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: ripe for fraud. I mean, how do you get 25,000
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: ballots returned? And what's interesting is the 25,000 ballots that
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: are returned, not a single one voted for the Republican.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: and all of them voted to increase the state sales
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: tax to 10%. How does that happen? I mean, who says,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: give me this ballot, I'm going to vote for these
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: incompetent Democrats that don't do anything right, 25,000, and also
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: they all vote to raise the state sales tax to 10%
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: in California. So, I mean, it's ridiculous. It's just so fraudulent.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: And to see Kristen Welker on Meet the Press tell Trump,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: what makes you think, what proof do you have? My
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: commenter is, what proof do you have that things are
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: done legitimately? Mathematically, none of this stuff adds up. And
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: I'm glad to see we make the commitment in Ohio
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: to see that something like that doesn't happen if we
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: get Democrats in the future, because it makes a joke
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: of your it takes all confidence you have out of
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: your out of the power of your of your vote.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: I don't want to see the fraud in Ohio like
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: I see in other states. So I think that's one
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: of the most important issues you could have on our
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: November ballots. And I'm glad to see you lowered the
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: state income tax, and yet it generated more revenue. And
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I'm glad to see that the additional revenue will go
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: to benefit seniors on homestead exemptions. And it will go
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: to benefit the tax holiday in 2027. I'm glad to
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: see that. And what else? I mean, you're working on
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: data centers, right?
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: So that was going to be the last kind of
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: large bill. We, like I said, had a lot of
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: other bills that folks will care about. You can see
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: that on our website, what we passed. A data center
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: bill was supposed to be passed last night that added
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: a whole bunch of extra regulations. That could not get
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: the votes.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: Why not?
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: Not because of what you might think. So they've had
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: a select committee. to kind of dive into data centers, energy, water,
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: tax side, all the different pieces, bring them all together.
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: The compromise kind of bill was what was produced from
• 33:49
  Speaker 6: that select committee. A lot of it is very good.
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: It actually includes my House Bill 706, which prevents the
• 33:57
  Speaker 6: cost shifting on electricity when a data center comes in.
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: The problem was the tax side. So the compromise that
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: they had come up with was not removing the sales
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: tax exemption.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Stand by. Okay, stand by. Now I'm starting to boil here.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: You've got to hear this part. Stand by. Dave Thomas,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: state rep. I'm back with him in a minute.
• 34:22
  Speaker 9: All right, this.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Is going to start to fry in you folks. So
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: this is the data center bill. And you're telling me,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Just tell me the side here about, as I said
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: a million times, we're the sweet spot. We don't have
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: to give them any tax breaks. DeWine folks gave data
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: centers this sales tax break. They don't have to pay
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: sales tax on anything they buy to build these giant centers.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: You have to if you're going to add on to
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: your garage, but these data centers don't have to do that.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: When that information came out, the state lost over a
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: billion dollars because of that decision of his. He put
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: a hold on it as a result of the outcry
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: because we were informed about it. And you're telling me
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: in this new bill you can't prohibit this permanently? Give
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: me the details here.
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so if you remember in the budget last year,
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: we removed the exemption, we vetoed it, and then what happens,
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: like you just said, so this select committee, dive into
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: data centers, their kind of compromise recommendation that we were
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: going to vote on yesterday, there's a whole bunch of
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: good things, but on the sales tax side, It changed
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: the exemption from the potential of 100%, which is what
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: is current, down to then 50% if data centers locate
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: on essentially brownfields, if they have closed-loop water, if they
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: bring their own electric power, and if they're larger than
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: 25 megawatts, if I remember correctly. So that was essentially
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: that select committee's compromise. That was the bill that we
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: were all discussing. But I give a lot of kudos
• 36:02
  Speaker 6: to Tex Fisher. He was one of the ones as
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: well that has been pushing back on granting these exemptions
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: and still having them in law.
• 36:11
  Speaker 12: Right.
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: They couldn't come to an agreement over what could be done.
• 36:16
  Speaker 6: So that bill, which there's good and bad because the
• 36:19
  Speaker 6: rest of the bill was exactly what we needed.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Now, hang on a second. Just let me do my
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: break and just bear with me a little bit after
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: 4 o'clock. I want you to explain this, what the
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: good and the bad was of this, then I'll let
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: you go, okay? Stand by. State Rep. Dave Thomas, back
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: with him in a minute. Stay tuned.
• 36:40
  Speaker 13: From ABC News, I'm Michelle Franzen. At the White House,
• 36:43
  Speaker 13: President Trump signaling a peace agreement with Iran is close.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: We have a signing soon, and the documents are in
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: pretty final shape, so we'll see.
• 36:56
  Speaker 13: A source with knowledge of the negotiations tells ABC News
• 36:59
  Speaker 13: the deal is very close as mediators hit some breakthroughs.
• 37:02
  Speaker 13: The president now backing away from new strikes against Iran.
• 37:06
  Speaker 13: ABC's Stephen Portnoy has details.
• 37:08
  Speaker 14: What we heard the president say is that he has
• 37:10
  Speaker 14: just spoken to the prime minister of Israel, the heads
• 37:12
  Speaker 14: of Qatar, the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, will soon be
• 37:15
  Speaker 14: talking to Turkey. He said the Strait of Hormuz will
• 37:18
  Speaker 14: be open. He mentioned that the U.S. has been engaged
• 37:20
  Speaker 14: in uh... what had been secret missions to take ships
• 37:24
  Speaker 14: oil tankers out of the state of hormuz transiting them
• 37:26
  Speaker 14: through to the global market place.
• 37:28
  Speaker 13: Just hours after five extension measures failed in both the
• 37:31
  Speaker 13: house and senate over bill polti's role as acting d
• 37:35
  Speaker 13: and i director President Trump announced the nomination of U.S.
• 37:38
  Speaker 13: Attorney and former SEC Chair Jay Clayton to lead the agency.
• 37:42
  Speaker 13: ABC's Catherine Falders has more on Clayton's experience.
• 37:45
  Speaker 15: While he is a highly respected lawyer, he sits at
• 37:49
  Speaker 15: the top of one of the most largest and arguably
• 37:54
  Speaker 15: one of the most important U.S.
• 37:55
  Speaker 16: Attorney's offices in the country. The question is, does he
• 37:58
  Speaker 16: really have that.
• 37:59
  Speaker 15: Much more national security experience than Bill Pulte, the previous
• 38:03
  Speaker 15: person who Trump said was going to serve as acting, does?
• 38:06
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  Speaker 1: All right, back to it. I want you guys, if
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: you join me just now, to listen to this.
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  Speaker 4: State Rep.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Dave Thomas is on the end of my line, and
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: I'm going to dial back just a little bit because
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: I want everybody to understand this. Now, this is a
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: bill on data centers in the state of Ohio, which
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: hasn't moved yet. And you said to me the votes
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: weren't there. It's got good points and bad points. Now,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I just want you to take it from the top.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: This is a bill on data centers in Ohio. Here's
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: the positive side. Tell people what the positive side is
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: of this bill.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: So this bill... is from a select committee. It's House
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: Bill 646, currently in the Senate. The positives of this,
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: it really restricts all of the electrical issues and the
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: electricity payment side that we've all been facing because of
• 39:37
  Speaker 6: much higher demand on the grid from data centers.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: And how does it do that?
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: So it says that you cannot have a cost shift.
• 39:47
  Speaker 6: So when a data center comes in, they have to
• 39:49
  Speaker 6: build new transmission platforms new distribution of energy, there's a
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: cost shift there because the utility is paying for it,
• 39:55
  Speaker 6: and we're all essentially subsidizing. And there's another cost shift
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: when the medicine pulls from the grid. It's pulling from
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: the same kind of market as all of us in
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: terms of how much electrons are costing. Raising the price. Yep, exactly.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: All right, so what do you do? What does this
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: bill do about any of those?
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: So it essentially says there's a separate new rate, a
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: data center rate class. So they have their own kind
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: of cost, their own auction, their own demand side. And
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: any of those costs that are associated with a new
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: data center, for example, must then be actually paid for
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: by that data center.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: And not spread to other electric users.
• 40:46
  Speaker 17: Correct.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Exactly. But it doesn't force them to create their own
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: energy system?
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: So it does not force. That's where the incentive comes
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: in with the sales tax exemption. So they can do
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: that now with House Bill 15 that we passed last year.
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: Data centers can build their own power plant, their own
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: energy generation on site. Nothing incentivizes that except for they've
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: fastened up permits in the permitting time. So if they
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: want to build their own power and they do so,
• 41:22
  Speaker 6: It's a lot faster for them. But other than that,
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: there's no kind of requirement mandate incentive. Part of this bill,
• 41:29
  Speaker 6: that sales tax exemption piece, would be tied to them
• 41:33
  Speaker 6: bringing their own power behind the meter at that location.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: That would be a 50% exemption on the state sales tax, correct?
• 41:41
  Speaker 6: So that would be up to, correct.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: All right. So if they create their own energy-producing supply system,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: And you're saying if they don't do that, they have
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: to bear the cost of being of any additional cost
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: on the grid. Is that correct?
• 42:03
  Speaker 11: Correct.
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: But I don't understand. If they don't have their own
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: energy producing aspect and they go on the grid, they're
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: going to need so much power from the grid that
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: that it will still increase everybody's prices because the demands
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: will still go up because they're going to need so
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: much of that electricity. I mean, I don't understand how
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: they could be on the grid and not cost shift
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: to me or raise my rate.
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: So there's auctions for demand that happen several times a year.
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: There's different kind of groups or classes, so residential, commercial, manufacturing,
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: or industrial auctions. And each one of those classes has
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: a certain part of the total amount of electrons that
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: are on the grid. And when they go out for
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: the auction, they'll auction for how much they think would
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: be needed. And that's part of that supply and demand piece.
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: Because the data centers are part of essentially all of
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: our current kind of demand, even though with them being
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: on there, the total demand for the grid is still impacted,
• 43:09
  Speaker 6: there's enough of a cushion or wiggle room with how
• 43:14
  Speaker 6: many electrons are actually on the grid, that they can
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: still be added with there being essentially extra. So it's
• 43:20
  Speaker 6: kind of like adding a new lane onto the highway.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Got you. A separate category for them.
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: Yes. All right. So basically they're not bidding against a
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: guy on the residential side. Correct?
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 43:36
  Speaker 11: Exactly.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: So it doesn't seem like this is that bad of
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: a bill then.
• 43:44
  Speaker 6: I think, yes, because there's other aspects to it. It prevents,
• 43:50
  Speaker 6: write down NDAs, nondisclosure agreements are a big concern with folks.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: I see they got that in Hubbard. It's a public's business.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: There shouldn't be nondisclosure agreements. It's ridiculous.
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, if you sign one, and if it's actually part
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: of that other bill that I mentioned, 647, if you
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: sign an NDA as a public official, it's still a
• 44:10
  Speaker 6: records requestable document.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: You should not sign a nondisclosure agreement as a public official.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: This is the public's business. They should totally be banned.
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: Totally. Yeah.
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: And the other positive thing, in terms of the tax side,
• 44:25
  Speaker 6: this does also limit so local governments cannot grant more
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: than a 50% exemption.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: On what? On property. Oh, any local government.
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: Or on income.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: On property or what?
• 44:40
  Speaker 6: Or income tax.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there shouldn't be any exemption at all. I mean,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: there shouldn't be any at all. Once again, I'm dead
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: set against all of that. What did you say? Where
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: was Tex Fisher on this?
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: So Tex is one of the ones that has led
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: against having these exemptions and these tax carve-outs for the
• 45:00
  Speaker 6: data centers. So he's been very strong at advocating against
• 45:06
  Speaker 6: having any exemptions in the bill. um, or for data centers. He's,
• 45:11
  Speaker 6: he's been leading the way.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Well, I saw, I salute him on that, but can
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: there be one, you know, I salute him on that,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: but I mean, you're saying on the one on the 50%
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: sales tax exemption, if you want to exercise that, you
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: got to build your own power producing facility and you'll be,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: you won't be affecting our grid at all. Is that accurate?
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 45:34
  Speaker 6: Now that's the current, um, that's the current framework of
• 45:38
  Speaker 6: the bill. Um, But there still are ways that you
• 45:42
  Speaker 6: can essentially require or incentivize senators to have their own power.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Without giving them the break, right?
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 45:50
  Speaker 12: Correct.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm with Tex Fisher in a sense of I
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: don't think they should get any tax breaks. I am
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: so sick and damn tired of all these places getting
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: tax breaks. And at the same time, the property owner,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: the homeowner, gets crapped on on a regular basis. I mean,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: if I get it off my chest, I'm tired of
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: everyone gets a break except the citizen homeowner who doesn't
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: get a break. I'm against giving any data center a
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: property tax break. I'm against giving them a sales tax break.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: And I'm against any of that. Listen, I'm not against
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: data centers. That's fine. And I also say we have
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: to do something as far as I don't want you
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: coming on my grid and passing a cost on to me.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: So you can do that through legislation, correct? I mean,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: we can fix that.
• 46:40
  Speaker 11: Yes.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: So are you anticipating what you just described to me?
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Is there going to be a different bill, Len?
• 46:48
  Speaker 6: That's a great question because we need to pass for
• 46:51
  Speaker 6: the three-fourths of this bill. It's really good. We need
• 46:53
  Speaker 6: to pass that. I'm not sure the timing of how
• 46:57
  Speaker 6: that's going to work. We were supposed to be on
• 46:59
  Speaker 6: recess following last night.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Right, enough of these recesses. I mean, with that being said, then,
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: do you think this bill that you just told me
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: about will pass?
• 47:10
  Speaker 6: Not as currently written. I don't believe we have the
• 47:12
  Speaker 6: votes for that.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: From Republicans and Democrats, you don't have enough to pass it?
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: Correct.
• 47:21
  Speaker 6: We would never pass a bill without the Republicans. But
• 47:27
  Speaker 6: Democrats also... um i think i share with you they're
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: they're very still behind giving the exemptions given the tax
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: breaks i.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Don't understand that that you the the democrats want to
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: give i thought you know they they just hate business
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: but they're willing to give them all these tax breaks
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: at the same time they just want to increase taxes
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: on a citizen i mean i don't understand i don't
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: understand how For example, I'm sitting here with Mahoning County
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: commissioners and Trumbull County commissioners that have the ability to
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: give people a slight bit of their property tax increase
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: back to them. They have the power to give it back.
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: I'm sitting here with commissioners that can double the homestead
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: exemption right now and can double the owner occupancy right
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: now so people get a small part of that increase
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: back to them, and they refuse to do that. Mahoning
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: and Trumbull County say refuse to do that. But we're
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: talking about giving all these breaks to a data center,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: which is owned by some of the wealthiest companies out there.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: How does that make a lick of damn sense?
• 48:34
  Speaker 6: And that's exactly why, you know, those tech clients say,
• 48:37
  Speaker 6: we can't justify this to our people. You just can't
• 48:41
  Speaker 6: justify that. That's why the lack of support. And I
• 48:46
  Speaker 6: think there'll be a new version, hopefully, or some type
• 48:49
  Speaker 6: of alteration because you just can't i've been saying i
• 48:54
  Speaker 6: can't look at someone who's building a house and say
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: i expect you to pay your full amount of sales
• 48:59
  Speaker 6: tax to us but yes your amazons your googles you
• 49:03
  Speaker 6: know no you.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Can you could have a break yeah you're you're filthy
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: stinking rich as a company but you can pay a
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: 50 sales tax but the average citizen pays a sales
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: tax on everything this is insanity this is what i
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: mean this is what's wrong i agree with Tex Fisher.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: I agree with you on that. It's simply wrong. And
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: I'm against any property tax abatements to any data center.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I'm at the point where
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: I'm against any property tax abatements to any business. I mean,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: it's not fair to the citizens that are carrying the load.
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: We are being smothered by property taxes, and these communities
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: should think long and hard about buckling under to give
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: these property tax breaks to any business at this point
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: in time. I'm for having the business come in, shifting
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: the property tax burden to the business, and easing it
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: on the citizen. How's that sound?
• 50:03
  Speaker 6: I always tell folks, new development coming in shouldn't raise
• 50:07
  Speaker 6: other people's bills, but actually should lower them.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 50:10
  Speaker 6: Contribute more to the community. Otherwise, you've seen the meetings.
• 50:13
  Speaker 6: You've seen, we actually, just as an example, Trumbull County
• 50:18
  Speaker 6: has the most number of banned data center communities in
• 50:21
  Speaker 6: the state. And I tell folks there's a reason for that.
• 50:25
  Speaker 6: It's because they're not seeing the benefit of these when
• 50:28
  Speaker 6: they come in. helping to lower bills, they instead see
• 50:31
  Speaker 6: them raising. And that could be for housing developments, that
• 50:34
  Speaker 6: could be for whatever type of development you'd like, but
• 50:37
  Speaker 6: this is just one example of that.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: You cannot go on like this. It's creating such a
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: double standard and putting it on the back of the
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: property owner that the officials in your community that allow
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: this to happen, the answer should simply be no. It
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: should simply be no. If you want to locate here,
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: you've got to pay what everybody else pays to be here.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: Particularly if you're an industry, let's say there's an industry
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: already in your community and you want to have an
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: industry come in that's doing the same thing. It gives
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: them a competitive advantage because they're not paying property taxes
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: versus the one that's been there forever that's contributing to
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: the community. It's not fair in the first place. But,
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just, again, if you put a data
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: center in, you guys pay your property taxes. That lowers
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: the burden on the homeowner, and that's what you should
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: strive for. That's what you want, right? That's what Dex
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: Fisher wants? Exactly.
• 51:35
  Speaker 6: And we have seen examples. There are some in southern
• 51:38
  Speaker 6: Ohio where data centers have come in, and they've actually
• 51:41
  Speaker 6: paid off the rest of a school bond, for example,
• 51:44
  Speaker 6: or they've bought a fire station instead of the local
• 51:47
  Speaker 6: community paying taxes. and having a bond and a levy
• 51:50
  Speaker 6: for the fire station. So there's actually good examples of
• 51:54
  Speaker 6: these coming in, paying their taxes, and then also trying
• 51:57
  Speaker 6: to show, hey, we're going to help lower your costs.
• 52:01
  Speaker 6: We know you don't want us here, but you can
• 52:03
  Speaker 6: be good neighbors here is an example.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's all interesting. I hope this gets worked
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: out in the direction that you want to take it
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: and Tex Fisher wants to take it. But you're not
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: optimistic on that.
• 52:26
  Speaker 6: I would like to be more optimistic.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: But you're not.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: No.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: Well, hold your ground. Hold your ground. And I know
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: what you're going to tell me. Well, three quarters of
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: a sandwich is better than nothing. I get it. But
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: I'm just against the shakedown here. I'll say it again.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: These data centers want to locate in Ohio because we
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: got the grid. We have the transmission lines. We have
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: the right weather. We're the sweet spots. We don't have
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: to do anything other than say where you want to
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: build and they will build. It's as simple as that.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: And we should reap the benefits. The local communities in
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: the state should reap the benefits from them. period, for
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: however long they're going to be there. Give me an aye-aye, Captain,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: on that, Dave.
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: Aye-aye, Captain.
• 53:12
  Speaker 6: Totally agree.
• 53:12
  Speaker 12: All right.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Dave Thomas.
• 53:16
  Speaker 6: Thank you. Have a good day.
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: That's State Rep Dave Thomas, NewsRadio 570 WKBN. Hardest working
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: State Rep.
• 53:21
  Speaker 11: 4-9.
• 53:23
  Speaker 9: Youngstown's News, Weather, and Talk Station, 570 WKBN.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: I tell you, it is just, these are interesting times, folks.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: 425 in the afternoon, Ron Verb, Kingdom of Mahoning, NewsRadio
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: 570 WQN. I mean, at some point, you've got to
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: stand up to some of this stuff. And I don't
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: care if it's your local trustees. I don't care if
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: it's your local, whatever community organization you have, if you
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: have a mayor, whatever situation it might have. I mean,
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: this whole idea of tax abatements has just got to stop.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, we are creating a two-tier system where, okay,
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: so we're going to give business some 10-year abatements, and
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: we don't do anything for the homeowners. It just puts
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: the entire burden on Joe Bag of Donuts, Joni Pepperoni,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: the homeowner, as far as paying their property taxes. They
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: don't get a decent break at all. And when there's
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: the opportunity to give them a break from your local commissioners,
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: they refuse to do it. Don't ask me to explain why.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: They just refuse to do it. It doesn't make a
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: damn lick of sense to me at all. But yet
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: when it comes to giving tax breaks to some business
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: that's going to locate somewhere, they'll go along with it.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: It's just wrong. You either want to be here or
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: you don't want to be here. Data centers will come
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: here because it is a sweet spot weather-wise, transmission line-wise.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: You don't need to give them a sales tax break.
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: You don't need to give them a property tax break.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: What you need to do is say you build here,
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: then a levy generates is only allowed to generate so
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: much money on outside millage. They build here, they get
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: cited for their property tax, and then it lowers the
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: burden on each homeowner because you're now paying less because
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: these giant facilities will get a property tax bill that
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: pays a bigger percentage of that because of their size,
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: and it will ease your burden. I mean, I realize
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: a lot of people don't understand property taxes. I get that.
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: But it's time to wise up and start understanding them.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: It's time for all of you that have a mortgage
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: payment that have no clue what you're paying a month
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: in property taxes. Really go to the auditor's website and
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: find out what your property tax bill is. Stop being ignorant.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: If you're paying it through your mortgage, find out what
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: you're paying a month right now. in property taxes, because
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: I'm here to tell you it will only go up
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: as time goes on. I'm trying to get it to
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: go down for you. I get all these mails from
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: people that say, you know, I never really paid much
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: attention to what you were saying. Then I paid my
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: house off, and boy, now I understand everything what you
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: were saying. Well, why don't you pay attention before that happens?
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: So I'm just against any of these abatements that I
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: see taking place. I'm totally against them. It's not fair
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: to the citizen that is paying the property taxes that
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: is constantly being asked to make more sacrifices and more
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: of their money. And as I said to you a
• 56:25
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  Speaker 1: County have the ability to double a homestead exemption for
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• 56:39
  Speaker 1: give the person that's footing this large bill a slight break.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: That tells you where their priorities are because it just
• 56:46
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• 56:48
  Speaker 1: they don't view it as your business and your money.
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know what their philosophy is. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: tear it down, build a new one. You get stuck
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• 57:25
  Speaker 1: You sound a lot like JJ, the liberal first time caller.
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: I get that all the time. I went down to fair,
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  Speaker 8: Call it in.
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  Speaker 3: You know, But she was really nice. But anyway, I
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  Speaker 3: wanted to let you know, I'm going to ask you,
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: I'm going to make you a bet.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: I will bet you a gallon of Milo's iced tea
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: to a Reese's peanut butter. I like those peanut butter
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: sticks at Reese's, like Reese's has.
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: I'll bet you that, gentlemen's bet, that Trump doesn't sign
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: anything within the next five days.
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  Speaker 2: How does that sound?
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: He said he.
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: Was going to bomb him, and then he said, no,
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: he's not going to bomb him. And now it's another,
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: then he says, well, we'll see. So I think this is, what,
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: 39 times now?
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: So I'm kind of wondering how many more.
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: Times are we going to do it? Are we going
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: to get kicked in the gonads, as they say, and
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: we're going to wise up to his... This is all,
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: you know, I have to..
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: Well, here it is.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: I have a feeling there's a scam going on here.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: Trump cancels Iran strike scheduled for Thursday evening. Dow jumps
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: 700 points. Oil tumbles as Trump cancels evening strikes again.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: So the Dow went up and oil went down because
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: he's not going to do this bombing.
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: And I.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: Guarantee you this. I bet you there's plenty of insiders.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: that made a bunch of money in the market today
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: when he does this kind of crap. I mean, I
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: hate to tell you this, gang. I'm sure that there
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: are people that are privy of this information that make
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: a ton of money that would make your head spin
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: as a result of this. Now, this would be like
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: the 35th time or something like that that he has
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: said a deal is close, a deal is close. And
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: they're talking like it's basically just a matter of time. Yeah,
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: they're talking like it's a done deal. And you're saying
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: it's you're not buying into it.
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: No, I think I'm going to, I think I'm not
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: going to, I think I'm going to take behind curtain
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: number two. I'm not going to, I'm not going to go.
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: With this one.
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: I think I'll, I'll take curtain number two, see what
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: behind curtain number two, because I know curtain one is
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: not a shiny ideal. I know that's not a piece
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: of dough in there. And three, I don't like the
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: number three. So I think I'll take the middle number two,
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: take the, uh, And we'll see what Bob Barker says.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, so wait a minute.
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  Speaker 3: I'll be in honor. I'll honor my word. If he passes,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: he signs something, I'll get you as much Milo's iced tea.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: I love Milo's myself. I'll get you as much Milo's
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: iced tea. It'll be coming out your earlobes, my friend.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: It already is. Now, I'm just, wait a second. I'm
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: bringing this up for a second. Let me see here. Okay,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: Trump says Iran deal near after second day of U.S.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: strike and attacks. So let me see what he says here.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: President Donald Trump said today that a deal to end
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: the conflict with Iran is nearly complete, adding that negotiators
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: are finalizing documents and could sign an agreement in Europe
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: within days. Speaking to reporters in the Oval Office, Trump
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: declared the negotiators had reached a breakthrough and suggested the
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: agreement was largely finished pending completion of final paperwork. We
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: just made a great settlement of the war with Iran,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: Trump said. The documents are in pretty final shape. So
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: we'll see. It should be done pretty quickly. Trump said
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: the agreement would ensure Iran never obtains a nuclear weapon,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: which he described as a central objective of the administration's
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: pressure campaign against Tehran. The president also said the Strait
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: of Hormuz would reopen once the agreement is signed, potentially
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: easing pressure on the global energy markets after weeks of
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: military tension and maritime disruptions in the region. Trump added
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: that J.D. Vance is expected to attend a signing ceremony,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: which he said could take place in Europe as soon
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: as this weekend.
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  Speaker 3: He better pack his tuxedo, because that's going to be
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: a party, so he better pack his tuxedo. And I
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: have a feeling he's not going to do that. Two
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: things I want to end with, because I know you're
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: running short on time. So that bet is in the works,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 3: and I promise I'll fulfill my obligation. All I want
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 3: is a Reese's Sticks, which is about a little two bucks.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: So we'll have a little gentleman's bet there, my friend.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: And the other thing, too, is one, did I get
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: on the back side of a boss lady? I heard
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: that was one of the best.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: I didn't, I didn't hear that. I didn't, I didn't, I.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: Didn't hear that.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: She was, she was, she was looking forward to, she was,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: she was looking forward to meeting you at the four seasons.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: And even was going to purchase a painting or two
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: off of you as well. So I think she was
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: disappointed that you weren't there.
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  Speaker 3: That's what she's going to do.
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  Speaker 19: I got it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: No, I mean, she had every right to. And I
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: understand her passion about that. And I give her, I'd
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: be willing to.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, listen, J.J., the liberals already signed a petition to
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: make it a constitutional amendment. to be able to vote
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: on it for your property taxes. But, no, I think
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: she was looking forward to meeting you and taking a
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: picture of her and you together and then sending it
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: to me.
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  Speaker 3: I just want to leave it on one more thing,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: and I know you got my email the other day.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: I just want to bring your attention. There's somebody online
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: that keeps saying, on your show, that keeps saying that
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: the Muslims do not have to honor any kind of agreements.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: If you look in the Koran..
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: That is the complete opposite. That they are obligated by
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: their faith that if they make an agreement with people
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: of other faiths, that they must abide by those agreements.
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  Speaker 2: Okay?
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  Speaker 3: I just wanted to sit there.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: We shall see if any agreement is reached. Listen, I
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: hope what he's saying today is factual and accurate. I mean,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: this thing needs to end now. Because if this goes
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: on beyond June, if we go into July this way
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: or August this way, well, look at the inflation numbers
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: that were out, 4% to 6%. This is just the
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: beginning of that huge inflation and energy costs going up
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: as well. It will be unbelievable if this thing doesn't
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: get resolved.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: You can believe me.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: I want him... To sign this, I want it.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: I will call you guys the next morning and say.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: You did a great thing.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: I'll humble myself.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: Well, keep this in mind, though. I don't know that
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: you'll call me and tell me that. He started this
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: in the first place. He started this, so he's got
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: to fix it. I mean, he started this mess, and
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: there's this... There's all these other countries that he's saying,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: where are they? They're all saying, we're not getting involved
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: in this mess. You started it. You brought this on.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: All right, thanks.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 16: JJ the Liberal.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 5: News Radio 570.
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  Speaker 3: You're on air.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: Hello? Line one.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: I hear noise.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: I'll put them back on hold. You're on the air.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: Yep. I'm glad you read that, what Trump's doing.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: We shall see. Now, listen, I don't mean to sound
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: like an ass to you, but we shall see because
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: I've heard this how many times now? Over 30 times.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: A deal's close. A deal's close. Listen, I want there
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: to be a deal. I'm rooting for him to get
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: something done and this thing concluded. Remember, he started this mess. No,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: you remember this. He started this mess. We didn't have
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: a problem getting through the Strait of Hormuz before he
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: started this mess. There wasn't a problem. Shipping was taking place.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: Iran wasn't charging tariffs. So he brought all of this
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: on because of his action. And all of these shortages
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: he brought on because of his action, a lot of
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: these other countries aren't participating. They say, you started this mess.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: We're not getting involved in this decision. So he made
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: quite a mess that he's got to clean up.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 19: You've got to thank him sincerely for saving the world
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 19: from a nuclear holocaust.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to thank him. I think that you're
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: falling into the BS that they want to send you
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: as far as that goes. What was the point of
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: the bunker?
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 19: All over the world and all through the United States.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 19: And they fund them. What I'm trying to tell you
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 19: is he choked them like a snake. What is that
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 19: big snake that chokes you until you die?
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: Anaconda, whatever? Yeah.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 19: All right. So bottom line is, and then what he
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 19: just did today was he took all these restrictions that
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 19: Barack Hussein, Obama, and Joe Biden put restrictions on fishing.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 19: So now the biggest thing, when we buy fish, we
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 19: don't want it from, you know, another country because it's
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 19: got mercury in it, you know. So now our clean
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 19: waters are going to have fish coming in.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 4: So you're going to be able to.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 19: Get fish reasonably cheap. Cheaper, of course, but you're going
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 19: to get fish from United States fish.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: Isn't that great?
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I would prefer my fish to be... Well, it
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: depends what type of fish you want.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: Well, no, we're talking lobster, scallops, everything.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 19: Salmon, it's going to be all available now.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: Well, see, I don't eat..
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: Because I don't know why.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 19: These people put restrictions on them.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: I don't eat lobster.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 11: Hmm.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: Oh, man.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: I can't. I don't care. I mean, I have no
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: desire to eat lobster, and I don't even eat crab legs. Oh,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: my Lord.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 19: Listen, crab legs with hot pepper.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: Now, here's the rub, though. My wife does eat lobster
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: and crab legs, and I do not. So, I mean,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: it's just on my cup of tea.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 19: It's a great day in the United States for.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 20: People that love fish.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: Okay? All right. All right.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 19: So we're going to have better.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 20: Access and lower costs.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: Now, you've got to thank.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 11: Them for that.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: You know, see, this is the thing.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 19: Everybody's putting down Trump.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 5: I don't understand people.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 8: Oh, by the way, I found.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 19: A solution for Trump derangement syndrome.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: You know what it is?
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 18: What is it?
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 19: It's giving people LSD and then playing... playing the YMCA
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 19: over and over and over again, and then teaching them
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 19: how to dance like Trump.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: They'll snap out of it.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: All right. I got you. It's Bubba Ganoush, NewsRadio 570, WKVN.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: You're on the air. Hello, hello, hello. Trump says Iran
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: deal near after second day of U.S. strikes. I'm going
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: to hang up on that. strikes and attacks. So let's see.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, we've heard this so many times before. Sometimes
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: I think this manipulation of the markets by the stuff
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: he says, I don't know if, you know, he knows
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: that stuff. Where did I go? Where is, of course,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: I'm running out of time for Lauderdale Frank to do
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: some analysis. Trump cancels Iran strike scheduled for Thursday evening.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: Dow jumps 700 points. Oil tumbles as Trump cancels evening
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: strike against Iran. Crude oil prices fall 3% after Trump
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: calls off strike against Iran. Okay, so that's all the news.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: So I look at the markets, and let's see. The
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: Dow's up like 929 points. The S & P' s up 127.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: NASDAQ's up 640. And the Russell's up like 85. So
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: everything is in the green. Everything is up as far
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: as the stock market is concerned based on what he said. Now,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: let's see if it materializes. Obviously, he says he's not
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: going to do this bombing tonight. But then he's saying, well,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: a deal is close and imminent. Now, he said this.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: How many times has he said this? And nothing has materialized.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: So I think his credibility is now on the line.
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: I don't care if you're a Trump voter, Trump supporter
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: or not. I voted for him. I won't vote for
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: a Democrat. But by George, his credibility is now in
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: line because he said this too many times. If this
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: doesn't materialize this time, then I'm going to sit back
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: and think he's pulling this crap to manipulate the markets.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: And I wonder if there isn't some insider trading going
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: on with people that know what he's going to say
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. to make a ton
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: of money when the market goes up like this. Just asking.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: Don't know. But he's saying, well, a deal is close.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: We're not going to do the bombing. A deal is close. Well,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: one better materialize is all I'm trying to say. Because
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: I've heard this for quite some time when he said
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: the same thing and nothing ever came from it. So
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter to me whether you're a Trump supporter
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: or not. I'm here to say, I'm getting tired of
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: talk is cheap, deeds are precious. Let's see if anything
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: materializes as a result of this. Because if it doesn't,
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: then it's just another hoax that has happened for 30
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: plus times. So this is a big credibility test for him.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: He's called it off, and he gives me that Trump
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: says Iran deal near after second day of U.S.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 4: Strikes.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, when you read this stuff, where do I...
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: Where did I have all this kind of stuff? I
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: don't want that. I thought I had it. Okay, right here.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: President Donald Trump said today that a deal to end
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: the conflict with Iran is nearly complete. So we shall
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: see something better materialize. Adding that negotiations are finalizing, negotiators
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: are finalizing the documents and could sign an agreement in
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: Europe within days. Speaking to reporters in the Oval Office,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: Trump declared the negotiators had reached a breakthrough and suggested
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: the agreement was largely finished pending completion of final paperwork.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: We just made a great settlement of the war with Iran.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: The documents are in pretty much the final form. So
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: we'll see. It should be done pretty quickly. Trump said
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: the agreement would ensure Iran never obtains a nuclear weapon,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: which he described as a central objective of the administration's
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: pressure campaign against Tehran. The president also said the strait
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: would reopen once the agreement is signed, potentially easing pressure
• 1:12:35
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to say, do we have Attorney James Melfi
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  Speaker 1: with us? He's been hit and miss. Is Attorney Melfi
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  Speaker 11: Present.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that is, you know, put a little enthusiasm into it, James.
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  Speaker 11: Ron, I don't know what's going on. You kind of
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  Speaker 11: sound like C-3PO from Star Wars. I don't know if
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  Speaker 11: it's on our end, but I'm hearing myself. I have
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  Speaker 11: no idea what's going on.
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  Speaker 17: Really?
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 11: But happy to be here.
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  Speaker 1: All right. I sound odd, huh? That's very interesting. Well,
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: it is what it is, as long as you can
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: understand me. That's all that matters, James. That's all that matters.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: But who knows? All right. And who joins you? Is
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: Tally with us tonight?
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 11: Tally is with us tonight.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: Hello, Ron. Oh, there she is. There she is handling...
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: The family law end at the firm and so much more,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 1: just incidentally. And it's always nice to hear Tally with us.
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: Is that it?
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: We got the two of you, right?
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 11: Frank's at Little League. And Leo, where's David?
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 16: Yeah, where's David, Leo?
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: Well, we don't know.
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  Speaker 11: I mean, it's a Thursday in June.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's probably somewhere getting his boat repaired. Sherlock Holmes
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: over here.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 11: Maybe.
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 23: Getting waxed, getting his nails done, something important.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: Right. He's probably in that ice bath because he just
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: got the bill for fixing his boat, something along those lines.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: He's probably right.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 11: Ron, I have a new prank for David, but I
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 11: can't share it on the air, and I don't want
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 11: to give it away just yet.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 4: Is it good?
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 11: It's maybe the most diabolical one yet.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: I can hardly wait. When do you think you'll launch it?
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 11: Perhaps in the next 10 days.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: Beautiful.
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  Speaker 4: Beautiful.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: Make sure that you report in to me. On how
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: it goes. I will. I got to know.
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  Speaker 11: I'll make sure to text you.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: Please do, because I want to know.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 11: It'd be worth it.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to know.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 11: Ron's giggling like a schoolgirl.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: It's so diabolical, I can hardly wait.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 11: Oh, it's fantastic. It's so mean.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: Because I got to admit this, you know, obviously you're
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: a great lawyer, but you are so good at these
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: diabolical ways to get under Dave's skin. It's so admirable.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's so good. I have to say.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 11: Sick and twisted sense of humor.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: All right. You used a lot of your college years
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: for the good things of how to do a good
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: practical joke and get under someone's skin.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 11: I cut my pinky off to go back to college.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and obviously you mastered beer drinking and pizza eating
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: as well. So I commend you on all of that, James.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Ron.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 11: Appreciate it.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: Now, Tally, on the other hand, was a straight-A student
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: and always did her homework and... Was not out partying
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: and having any fun, right, Tally?
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 11: Tally and I went to the same college.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 16: Yes, we did.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: Really? Did you know each other?
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 11: No.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 23: I'm older than him, which is really gross to say
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 23: out loud.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 16: Actually, we should have known each other because I was
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 16: a senior when he was a freshman.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: What college?
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 16: I also graduated when I just turned 21.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 11: Miami of Ohio.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: Which one? Miami of Ohio.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 11: Okay.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's interesting. All right.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 11: Why is that interesting? Just curious.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: Because often when I hear Miami of Ohio, I always
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: think Miami and Florida. And I always found it interesting
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: when people go to Miami of Ohio. You know, like
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: I like to say, I happen to be a graduate
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: of the University of Akron. That's where the real men went, James.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 11: I know, you're a zip. We were a university before
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 11: Florida was a state, but that's all right. Now I
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 11: practice down there, too.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 16: It's fine.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 23: We're also number one for hottest girls and number two
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 23: for hottest guys and one of the top party schools,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 23: so I'll take it.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 4: There it is.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: There it is.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 11: No comment.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: Now, I would have to just give her an aye-aye, Captain,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: on all of that. Kent State was always known as
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: a party school. I always heard that was the big
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: party university. Did you hear that over the years or not?
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 11: Never went.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: The golden flashes. I didn't go there. I just heard
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: it was a happening place. All right, are you ready
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: to take some calls? Sure. Why don't we do that
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: with Tally and James? You're on the air. Hello there.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: Line one, are you there?
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 4: Hello.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, sir.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: Do you have a legal question?
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 4: I sure do.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: Good. Go ahead.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 4: I received in the mail... a letter from a company
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 4: that says they are an oil and gas mineral rights company.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 4: And prior to that, I had a call from apparently
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 4: one of their representatives that said I would be getting
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 4: the letter. And the letter, in effect, mentions a couple
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 4: of my distant, really distant relatives.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: By name.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 4: And they're saying they want to buy my mineral rights.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 4: I've never received any royalties from this company. I never
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 4: heard of them. But they do mention my great-grandfather, but
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 4: they never seem to put it together exactly. But You know,
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 4: it's a two-page letter, and I'm sure you don't want
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 4: to go through all that. I'll try to pick up
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 4: the significant parts of it. It says this oil and
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 4: gas mineral rights purchase and sales agreement is entered into
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 4: by and between..
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 11: Who's the other party?
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 4: You and what else? Yes. Can I mention their name?
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 11: Yeah, go for it.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 4: It's... triple land and mineral out of, let's see, Bridgeport,
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 4: West Virginia. Okay.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: Is this on your land? Do you own land?
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 4: No, not as far as I know.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: Where's it from?
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 4: They're saying I have mineral rights. Oil and gas rights.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: Where? Located where?
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 4: In West Virginia. There's like a Four pages long.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: Okay, just answer this question for our attorneys. Did you
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: inherit any land in West Virginia?
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 4: Not that I know of.
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: Do you own any land in West Virginia?
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 4: Not that I know of.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: But yet they say that you have mineral rights. So
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: your parents, or did you ever live in West Virginia?
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 4: No, my parents did.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, so your parents did. And what happened to their land?
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 4: I have no idea.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: Your parents never told you you didn't follow what happened
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: when they died if somebody bought it?
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 4: Well, I don't know. I don't think they owned any
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 4: land down there as far as I can tell.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 23: Have you verified the company with the Secretary of State
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 23: business database?
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 4: Not yet.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 11: Sir, here's what I would do. I'm going to give
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 11: you some good advice on this.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 16: I'm listening.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 11: Get a lawyer in West Virginia before you sign... Yeah, don't.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 23: Sign anything because you could also compare it. If it
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 23: is legitimate, you're going to want several different people to
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 23: tell you how much they'll give you. But also make
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 23: sure it's a real business before wasting your time or
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 23: hiring an attorney. So make sure you verify that it
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 23: is an actual business.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 11: We'll count it in West Virginia.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: Didn't James, for just a second, get a little closer
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: to my microphone, James, if you wouldn't mind. I believe
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 1: Dave has said in the past, correct me if I'm wrong,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: I think Johnson & Johnson over in Canfield kind of
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: deals with this type of issue. Have you heard that, James,
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: I think in the past? I remember Dave referring to that.
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 11: I have heard that. And if they can't help you,
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 11: if you give our office a call, I can get
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 11: you in the right direction.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: All right. So take that letter because you– You might
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: have something going on there and go see.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 11: Do not pick up a pen before you talk to
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 11: a lawyer.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 16: Yeah, have somebody review it.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 4: The problem is, if I can, the problem is they're
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 4: offering $ 2, 500. Well, it.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: Might be worth more.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's exactly right.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 16: And what bothers me is..
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 4: Description of the land, and it goes from this stone
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 4: to that corner to the oak tree and all this
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 4: stuff I don't understand. But they're saying they're offering $ 2, 500.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 4: But on page two, they're saying if there's any litigation
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 4: or anything, that I would have to pay any claims
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 4: from other people concerning that land i could i could
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 4: see this as a real scam would.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 11: You indemnify them and hold them harmless in case there's
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 11: another heir out there yeah and you sold this land
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 11: get a lawyer.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 16: Don't sign that until you have someone review it please
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 16: please please please please.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: So melfi you said you could look at it.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 23: Uh yes we can at least send you in the
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 23: right direction we're not in the right direction we're not
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 23: licensed in west virginia no but i mean you can
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 23: definitely get you someone who can.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 11: Yeah yeah Give the office a call. If there's something
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 11: we can't help you with, we'll get you in the
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 11: right direction.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: Call the office and tell them you want to talk
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 1: to Attorney Melfi, okay? And maybe he can point you
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: in the right direction.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 4: Do you have their number?
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: 330- Fill in the rest, Tally. I don't know her number.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 16: 746-8484.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: There you go.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 3: 746-8484.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 4: 330-746-8484.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 16: James Melfi, Attorney-in-Law.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 4: Big four. Okay.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 4: I suspect a scam. That's why I called it.
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: It might not be, though, because your parents live there.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: You don't know.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 11: The oil and gas business is booming again, so there's
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 11: a lot of drilling going on.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 16: You never know.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 11: I'd like something.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: That's going to make us money. Good luck to you, old-timer.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: Hey, thanks.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: Remember back in the good old days.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 11: Ron, why do you got to do that to him?
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 11: Why do you got to do it to the caller?
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: What?
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 4: Old-timer.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: Because he's an old-timer, I could tell.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 11: I held back on my Kent State joke. I was
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 11: going to say you went there when it was Woodstock.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: I didn't go to Kent State. I wasn't a Golden Flash.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: I was a University of Akron graduate.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 23: I think Jimmy's just feeling a certain way because I
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 23: just looked at him and he has gray eyebrow hairs.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 23: So I think he's just expressing his frustration.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: Tally went to the University of Hot Chicks. I mean,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: that's all that matters. You know, right there. There you go, Melfi.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 11: I went to the same place.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 16: Yeah, but you're number two.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: And that's probably why Melfi went to that place, if
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 1: I had to guess.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 11: Maybe why I never came home.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 16: Oh, stop. He has his beautiful wife.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: There you go. And let's take some more calls with
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: our attorneys tonight. NewsRadio 570, Dodie Kimion. You're on the air.
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 11: Hi.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: Hi.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 3: I was.
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 11: Shocked.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 10: I got a. speeding ticket oh my god.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 16: I'm so sorry how.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 10: Fast well i've been driving since i was 16 and
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 10: i'm 74 and i'm on a limited income and i
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 10: was shocked i have a hundred hundred dollar speeding.
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: Ticket where'd you get.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 10: It from well that's what i i do believe in
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 10: being responsible like if i have to pay it i
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 10: will but um it's just that time.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: Tell us did a cop pull you over yes or
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: no no it's one of the photo tickets yes do
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: you own your car lease.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 2: Your car Own.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 10: It's 21 years old.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 1: All right, so you own it.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 16: Look at Ron giving advice on you.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: No, I'm just getting the details for you. What community
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: did you get it in?
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 10: Well, I'm so embarrassed to say this, but I didn't
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 10: realize it. Okay, it was by the college. I hardly
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 10: ever go that way on Wick Avenue. And this was
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 10: May 5th, and I'm trying to think, where was I
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 10: going that I would be speeding?
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 6: I don't work anymore.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 10: So anyway, I saw the sign, the 20-mile speed limit.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 10: It was around YSU. And when I saw the sign,
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 10: I went, I slowed down, but I don't know where
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 10: I was going, but the speeding ticket said 34. And
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 10: there was nobody.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 4: Walking at all.
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: It was beautiful. You sound like an old lady with
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: a lead foot on that car. I think you're probably
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: lying to our teenagers. I think you're a chronic speeder,
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: and you probably don't use turn signals either.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, no, no, this is so funny.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 10: But, you know, there was a time several years ago,
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 10: because I do try to be responsible, and I'm one
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 10: of these people that just could have something bad happen
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 10: to me because I... Okay, years ago, I was following some...
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 10: I was at the bank, and the lady in front
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 10: of me pulled out, didn't use her signal, and I
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 10: went next, you know? And I followed her.
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 8: You know, she was..
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 10: Well, I wasn't really following her so much, but I
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 10: happened to be going the same way she was. But
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 10: it was on my direction home, so she pulled into
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 10: Nicole's parking lot. So I went over, you know, I...
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 10: got out of my car, she got out of her car,
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 10: and she had a little girl with her, and I said,
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 10: excuse me, ma'am, I don't know if you're aware of this,
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 10: but you made all these turns, and you never used
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 10: your signal, you know, and I said, you know, and
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 10: it was a new car, and I had this old car,
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 10: and I said, I'm just concerned, because, you know, you
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 10: also have a child in your car, you know, and
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 10: instead of her saying thank you, I wasn't aware of it,
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 10: she told me, get a life.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 10: And I said, well, I'm just concerned for your life
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 10: and your child, you know?
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: I would have told you the same thing. Mind your
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: own business, lady.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 10: Yeah, well, I was just, you know, I wouldn't want
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 10: to have been warned, you know? But anyway, and I'm
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 10: sure the signal was working because it was a new car.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 10: So I try to be responsible. And like the other day,
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 10: I was coming out from somewhere, and this guy, and
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 10: this happened so many times, he had a sports car
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 10: on South Avenue. We were coming home from my granddaughter's
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 10: piano recital. And anyway, we stopped for lunch at where
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 10: they wanted to go, and We drove separate. And anyway,
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 10: I'm going on South Avenue. This guy in the sports car,
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 10: he had to be going 80 to 85.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: Now, let me ask you a question. And this is important.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: The cops never pick him up.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: This is important. Was that guy in a Mercedes that
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: looked like a man driving a woman's Mercedes?
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 11: In a light blue Mercedes.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: Light blue Mercedes with gray hair.
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 10: It might have been one of you lawyers.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: I think I might be able to identify that person.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: All right. So what do you say?
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 11: First of all, lady..
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: Ron, I call you all the time.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 12: I called yesterday.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: I know. I know you have this lead foot. I
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: can tell you're probably a chronic speeder. But anyway, what
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: do you say, guys? She's all bent up about this.
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: She really doesn't have to pay it, does she?
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 11: Ron took you through my line of questioning. You own
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 11: your vehicle.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 11: So it's not going to get assessed at your leasing company.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 11: It's no points. It's a civil infraction.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 16: It's not going to the MVP.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 4: MVP.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 11: MVP.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: B & B.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 16: Wow, I'm very tired today.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 11: So what I would say is don't lose sleep over it, caller.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 11: And tell Ron to talk to you nicer.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: Right. No, that's okay. Now listen to what Melfi said, though. Now,
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: do you have the backbone? I'm just saying because if
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: you don't pay it, they're going to tell you, oh,
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: we're going to turn you over to collections or we're
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 1: going to send you a letter demanding more money. Ignore
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff and you won't have anything
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: to worry about. All right? Right? Right.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 10: Wait, wait, real quick. So I don't have to pay
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 10: for it because I did see the policeman out of
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 10: the corner of my eye, but it was from a
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 10: camera because they sent me the photo. It was me
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 10: and it was my car, so I can't deny it.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 10: But he never pulled me over.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: But there was a policeman there?
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 11: Yes.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: What do you say, Melfi? Does this change anything?
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 11: Was it your twin sister driving your car and she
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 11: stole it?
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 8: No, I'm serious, guys.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 10: If I have to pay it, I will. But if I,
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 10: you know, that's $ 100 that I, you know, could use
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 10: somewhere else. Groceries, even gas in the car.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 11: $ 62 to sell my car.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: You know, let me put it this way, Jim. If
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: it was me, I wouldn't pay it, but I got
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: a backbone enough to say I would ignore all those,
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: you know, intimidating notices that they'll try to send her.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: If you've got a backbone, what's she got to lose?
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 11: Nothing.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 10: I do have a backbone. I usually fight for what's right,
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 10: and if I don't have to pay it, I won't.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 17: Right.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: How old are you, did you say?
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 10: I just turned 74.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: Right. I mean, how many more years do you have
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: left anyway by the time you're close?
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 8: Oh, hopefully.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: As long as I'm healthy.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 16: A long time, Ron.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: A long time. I'm just teasing. I was just teasing her.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 8: One person is allowed.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 10: But you're supposed to tell me I sound so young.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: Yes, you do.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 11: Okay.
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: Well, okay. So, Jim, if it was you, Attorney Melfi,
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: would you pay it?
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: Okay. He said no.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 12: Okay.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 10: I can breathe a little better.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 10: Thank you, guys.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: Take your $ 100 and spend it elsewhere. I bet she's
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: got a gambling problem. What do you say? I mean,
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: you know, these people that she speeds, she's probably smoking
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: and gambling. All the vices in life.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 11: What do you think she plays?
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: Blackjack? Yeah. All of that crap.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 11: And Ron, only one person is allowed to practice ageism,
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 11: and it's me on David this show.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: That is the best. You know what month it is, right?
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: What is it?
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 4: What?
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 23: It is like Abusive Elder Month, like Awareness Month.
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 16: I almost said something to David.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 11: Why'd you tell me that?
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 23: Well, I almost said something to David this morning, but
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 23: I already cracked a joke at him, so I was
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 23: trying to be nice because I already made fun of
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 23: him once.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 11: Did you say Disney Life Alert?
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 23: No, Brandon had like training and his dog. And so
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 23: this morning Dave was like, bandit, come sit, stay like
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 23: lay down.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 16: And I was like, Oh my gosh. It was like
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 16: his training worked. I said, so when do you go
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 16: Dave for your training?
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 11: And I was going to revert right back.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 16: He was actually very good this morning.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 23: Dave is bragging that he was the second most smartest
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 23: dog in that place.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 11: Your dog dogs turn into their owners.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 23: I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just saying I couldn't
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 23: make fun of them about the elder awareness month. Um,
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 23: because I already cracked a joke on him this morning.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 23: I try to, like, limit it, so he's still secretly, like,
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 23: you know, doesn't hate me.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: So you're still on his good side, where Melfi is
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: fearless when it comes to that, right, James?
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I go right after, go right for the throat.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. All right, let's take another call with our attorneys.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 1: You're on the air. Hello there. Hello, caller.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 4: Hello.
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 9: Can we help you?
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm trying to get him to say something. Are
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: you there, or I'll put you back on hold. I'll
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: put you back on hold. All right. You're on the
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 1: air with our attorneys. Hello.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 20: Ron, is this me?
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, for the love of God.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 12: It's you.
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, my goodness.
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: It's John Wayne. Is that me?
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 20: Ron, can I ask you a question?
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: Yes, Dave.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 20: I've got to ask you a question.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 16: Is it about older news?
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: You hired a lawyer to.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 20: Do your case, and you just recently found out that
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 20: the insurance company took the dinghy as scrap and sold
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 20: it for $ 1, 000. and then offered me $ 1, 000. Would you
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 20: think that the attorney is doing a good job?
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: No, because they took your property, they sold it for $ 1, 000,
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: gave you the $ 1, 000. So no, I would think that
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: that's unacceptable. I would never accept that, David.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 20: And do you think that Jimmy Melfi can move my
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 20: dinghy case off the back burner and just maybe make
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 20: a call.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 19: Or two on it?
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: Well, he's very busy right now.
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 20: Is he just asking for too much?
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's extremely busy. and he's got a lot on
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: his plate, and frankly, you're not a priority.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 11: Obviously. It's an accurate summation of the situation, Ron.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: I rest my case.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 16: It's a very busy month for him.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: Month.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 20: I just wanted to know why I can't get my dinghy.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, I know.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 11: You have your dinghy.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 20: Why can't you settle it? Why don't you do something
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 20: on it, Jimmy?
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Jimmy.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 11: Because it'll, I mean, the greatest running case of all
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 11: time will come to an end, and it's going to last,
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 11: your dinghy will last in perpetuity, David.
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: Right. Did you get your boat in the water and
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: your boat fixed? I know people that were up at
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 1: Put-In-Bay that were looking for you, and they said you were.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 4: Oh, he did.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 11: He was grinning like a butcher's dog, Ron.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 12: Really?
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: His boat's back?
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 11: His boat's back. Yeah.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 20: And I was up at Put-In-Bay. I saw a lot
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 20: of people from Youngstown. I'm always parked next to Topsy Turvy,
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 20: and there's an open invite for anyone from Youngstown.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: Topsy Turvy is where you are parked by. And your
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 1: boat is fixed and back in the water, correct?
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 20: Relatively so. I don't have the right dinghy in there,
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 20: but that's on Jimmy Melfi, and you'd think he would
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 20: worry about the Boston boat.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: Right, but, I mean, you have all of this paid for,
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: or your insurance company paid for it. as well as
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: Tally and Attorney Melfi. Basically, you're here to say your
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: boat is fixed and in the water again, correct?
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 12: Yes.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: All right. And the insurance company hasn't paid you the
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: $ 70, 000 to fix it?
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 11: Correct.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: Not yet.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: And that was when you hit the buoy, correct?
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 18: The bottom of the lake.
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: When you hit what?
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 18: Rocks on the bottom of the lake.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: You hit rocks. Okay.
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: Rocks good for you. All right. And in turn, it
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: caused some damage to your boat. But you blamed the
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 1: navigation system, not you as the skipper. Is that correct?
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 20: That is correct.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: And did you find a flaw in the navigation system
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: at all?
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 18: I did.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: All right. I still, I'm trying to figure out, when
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: you were at the helm, when you were out there
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: looking out, okay, as you're steering the boat, why didn't
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: you avoid the rocks? Why didn't you say, I'm not
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: going with what navigation says, it would be the wrong
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: direction to go?
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 18: Because I tapped in the boat by using the chart plotter.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 20: And the chart plotter was off.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, so if you had GPS in your car and
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: it said, keep going straight, and you saw the sign
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: that said, road closed ahead, would you keep going straight?
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 18: Well, you know, it's a little different on the water, Ron.
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 20: I hate to tell you that.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 18: It's not like that on the water.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. I see. All right.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 18: But more importantly, I want to know is, why Jimmy
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 18: Melfi cannot settle my dinghy case?
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: Melfi, when can you settle a dinghy case? I don't
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: want to.
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  Speaker 11: He doesn't want to, Dave.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 1: Because we're going.
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 11: To stop the greatest running case of all time. I mean, really,
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 11: what are we going to do with ourselves if that
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 11: case settles wrong?
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know what we would ever do. Melfi says
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: there's no end in sight to your broken dinghy. I'm
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: sorry to say.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 18: Well, then I'm going to take the case off of Melfi,
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 18: and I'm going to give it to an attorney that
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 18: will actually get it done, and that's Tali Arendia.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. She would get it done. Tali, do you
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: think you could address Dave's issue?
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 23: To be honest with you, my anxiety is so crazy
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 23: that I get done my cases very quickly.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 16: So, yeah, I'd probably get it done. I'm really sorry.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 9: Jimmy, don't look at me like that.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 11: You settle that case.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: She says..
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 11: The worst day in his life.
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: Tally says if you assign it to her, it'll probably
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 1: be done by the end of next week.
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 23: I just, listen, David, I have to do my cases
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 23: quickly because I'm psychotic.
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 11: Well, yeah, I mean, in our world, I've had two
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 11: kids since we started one case. David, am I meeting
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 11: you and Lorraine on Monday? We're not driving together, right?
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 11: You don't want to drive with Dave?
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 18: You will meet me in the Lorraine County, I mean,
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 18: the Lorraine Come and please court.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like you're cleaning dishes, Dave, or something.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 11: Sounds like you're calling the big guns.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: Sounds like Dave's working in the kitchen somewhere.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 20: Now, what I'm trying to figure out is, after two years,
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 20: with Jimmy having my case, why it's not settled.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: Well, because you won't accept $ 1, 000, right, Jim? I mean,
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: you really have a settlement. He just won't accept it.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: It's $ 1, 000. I mean, don't you think?
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 16: Do you have any other legal questions, caller?
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: Is there anything else other than why he hasn't settled
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: your case? He got you $ 1, 000. How much do you
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: think he's supposed to get you?
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 23: $ 20, 000.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 6: $ 20, 000?
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 2: I missed the whole season.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: $ 20, 000. And he got you. So the difference is $ 19, 000? Yes.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: All right. Have you ever thought, perhaps, of representing yourself?
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 1: The thing is.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing. Maybe you should represent.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 20: Suit under the consumer's sales.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 1: Are you going to be all right? Do I need
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: to call an ambulance?
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 16: Do you have your life alert on?
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: Jimmy doesn't know how to use.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 18: The Consumer Sales Practices Act properly.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 4: Uh-huh.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: Well, then you should probably find another lawyer. Do you
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 1: know any other lawyers by chance?
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 20: Her name's Talia Rengia.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: Well, sounds like she would be a very good attorney
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: to go with, don't you think?
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 11: I think it's perfect.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 20: I think that's who he's going to get assigned to now.
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: Oh, that'll work out good.
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 16: I'm pretty sure I'm only supposed to be doing domestics.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 20: Jimmy is just wasting my time now.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: Right. Sounds to me like you've got another case against
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 1: your insurance company for the $ 70, 000 claim to fix your
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: boat when you hit the rocks.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 3: No, it wasn't that much.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, how much was it? Are you all right? Yeah.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 11: Are you choking?
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 16: Did you press your life alert button?
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: Did you fall and you can't get up?
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 11: That's not very nice, Tally.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: It was $ 50, 000. Oh, excuse me, $ 50, 000. Is the insurance
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: company going to pay?
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:44:11
  Speaker 1: You're sure of that?
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: Well, who represented you on that case? Not Jimmy. Well,
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: get that same person to represent you on a broken
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: dinghy case.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 20: I'm going to have to turn it all over to
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 20: Tally because Jimmy's just not paying attention to the ball.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 11: That's right. I'm more worried about your health. Do we
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 11: need to put you on like a pureed food diet
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 11: or something?
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 16: We do sound like you're choking.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: Are you capable of.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 11: Eating solid food?
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: I got something stuck in my throat, Jimmy. Okay?
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 11: I'm just asking. I'm looking out for your well-being.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 16: Dave, do you know what month it is?
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 6: No, you're not looking out for my well-being.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 20: You've blown my case off forever.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: Do you need Heimlich's?
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 23: All right, Dave, do you know what the month is,
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 23: the Prevention Awareness Month is? I think you'll be interested
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 23: to hear this.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: Dave, do you know what month it is?
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 19: No.
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 1: What is it, Tally?
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 16: Prevent Elderly Abuse Month.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. I'm going nuts.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 20: Jimmy has been already abusing me for two years.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 11: Well, that's what I'm saying.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 16: It's prevention month and awareness month, so speak out. Speak
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 16: your truth, Dave.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 20: He really has been abusing me for two months, two years.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 19: I'll get to it, Dave.
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, no problem, Dave.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 20: I'm going to get on it today, Dave.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 5: You know how many times I've heard that?
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 11: Actually, no, I don't even say that. I said you're
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 11: way in the back burner, brother.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Just give it some time, Dave. He's very busy.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: Your case will be coming soon. Don't you worry about
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: a thing. Well, thank you very much. I'm glad you're
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: doing okay. Tally wants to know if you've got your
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: life alert on in case you fall.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 11: I don't think he has his teeth in or something.
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 16: Why are you choking so much?
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 20: I've got something stuck in my throat.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 4: He's got me so upset.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 9: How about water?
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 16: Adam will take that out for you. Give him a call.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 16: Is it in the sky?
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 19: I'm going to reassign the case to you, Tally.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 20: That's not what it's done.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 11: Yeah, but you're going to have to open up an
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 11: estate because he's going to be dead by.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 16: The time you do it.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 11: He doesn't even have air tally.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 16: I can only do domestic relations cases. I'm so sorry, Dave.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 11: The poor guy can't even breathe.
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 16: Jimmy, you're taking his breath away.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 11: I wouldn't be the first person to say that.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 5: Oh, God.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 20: Goodbye.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 1: Goodbye. There he is.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 11: Bye, Dave.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: Tourney David, Beatrice, where he's at the top.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 11: I think you should have a call for like a
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 11: welfare check.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Topsy Turvy is where he hangs out up there
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: with his boat. But he sounded like he was choking,
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: didn't it?
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 16: He did sound like he was choking.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 11: Like the, you know, when you see like... school, like
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 11: teaching the Heimlich.
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: Like purple face. Like, yeah.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 16: I mean, I almost had to get the Heimlich in
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 16: the office the other day.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 11: I've given the Heimlich twice.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 16: You missed it. Marco was choking.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 16: Horrible, horrible time.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 11: Choking scares me.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 16: It scares me too. My daughter choked and it was
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 16: the scariest day of my life.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 1: Did you, did you do the Heimlich?
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 23: Uh, I'm very, very bad in anything that if there's
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 23: like any sort of emergency, I panic.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 16: Um, so I panicked and screamed. Does anybody know the Heimlich?
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: Your husband's a doctor.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 16: Well, thank God, because my daughter choked, and I, well,
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 16: I did. Who were you screaming for?
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: Why didn't you tell your husband, come here? She's choking.
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 23: Well, my husband wasn't at the office, but I'm just
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 23: very bad in emergencies. It's like, even my father-in-law makes
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 23: fun of me. He's like, you are just useless. You
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 23: just stand there and scream for someone, and I'm like,
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 23: I sure do.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: Unbelievable you don't you see that thing on tv where
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: they you you can get it to if you're choking
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: and sucks this stuff out and all that kind of
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: stuff they're relatively inexpensive we were we were at.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 23: My in-laws and he finally he was about i'm not
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 23: even joking he was about to tracer she was two
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 23: years old he was about to tracer um the ambulance
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 23: took like 15 minutes to get there but when he
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 23: finally finger swooped it the second time it got out
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 23: and it was a piece of cantaloupe and there was
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 23: blood all over it was.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 1: Disgusting who who did who got it.
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 23: Out My husband, after the second finger swoop, because he
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 23: was about to take her, and he's like, I'm going
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 23: to try it one more time because she was turning purple.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 11: It was horrible.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: Boy, that is terrible. But he didn't panic. He's a doctor.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 2: See?
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 16: Oh, he panicked.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: Because it was his own child, right?
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 11: Yeah.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 23: He had a lead on the floor, like on his
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 23: back after and like calmed down. He almost passed out.
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 23: He's like, it's really different when it's your own kid.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 23: But he'll do like CPR on like a stranger for
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 23: like four hours.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 16: It's kind of crazy.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: Well, isn't that interesting? Okay. Tally, I'm sorry, but you're
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: going to probably get that case. And God, I pray
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: for you. I really do. Melfi, you should be rejoicing
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: to get that off your agenda.
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 23: I should ask Brian to tell me that I'm not
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 23: allowed to take that case.
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: Melfi had the best line of the whole program. What
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: was it, Will, about his estate or something like you said? Yeah.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 11: I said he's going to have to force open his
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 11: estate because he's going to be.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: Gone by the time he's checking.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah. All right.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 9: You're on the air.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 1: Hello.
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 2: Hello?
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: Legal show. Go ahead with your question, please.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 8: Well, I'm just a little upset with your attorneys. You know, everybody,
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 8: we always talk about taking responsibility. It happened to me.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 8: I was evidently distracted. I was going over to see them.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 8: They got a ticket. They had my picture. I paid
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 8: the ticket. They caught me. So why do you say, oh,
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 8: if you can get away with it, just ignore it?
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 8: I think that's horrible.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 8: Just follow down the line. And the other thing with you,
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 8: I wish you'd stop using.
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: You're on the air. Hello.
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 4: Good evening, all.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 12: I was just going with questions whether or not I
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 12: may or may not have recourse into a situation that
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 12: I'm currently dealing with. What we have is I've had
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 12: a healthcare insurance company for decades, and I've been retired
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 12: for a few years, and I just recently, and I'm
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 12: still in my initial enrollment period for Medicare Part A
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 12: and B, and the insurance company that I've had for
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 12: decades ultimately contacted their third party. That third party contacted
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 12: me at 1.30 in the morning saying, On this past holiday,
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 12: on a Sunday, informing me I no longer have health
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 12: care coverage.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 4: And it's clear.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 12: That's what the language states. So now we go through
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 12: the holiday. Turns out I spend all these hours on
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 12: the phone playing phone charades, trying to figure out what's
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 12: going on. Do I have health care coverage? Where's Part B?
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 12: So what ends up happening is it ends up costing
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 12: me a little under $ 500 because I had to sign
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 12: up for Medicare Part B premature. And the insurance company,
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 12: the main, it's a national insurance company. We all know
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 12: who it is. They subsequently contacted their third party. The
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 12: third party reached out to me with this letter, and
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 12: neither one of them went to take responsibility for what
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 12: I'm out now. I'm out 15, 20 hours of working
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 12: on this and just under $ 500 because I had to
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 12: sign a premature for Medicare Part B for just under $ 500.
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 12: And they're telling me, hey, it's terrible to be you.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 2: That's where I'm at.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: Is there any request? Why did they terminate you? Why
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: did they terminate you? All right, listen to the attorney
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: and answer his questions.
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 11: Why did they terminate? Your health coverage.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 4: They won't answer.
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 12: The only thing I got today is that I was
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 12: signed up for a rebate, which is the third party,
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 12: which I never signed up for, never contacted, don't even
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 12: know who they are.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: How old are you?
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 2: I just turned 65.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: And who do you have your insurance through, your employer?
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 12: I separated with my employment insurance about four years ago.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 3: Yes, and it's a national..
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 12: It's one of the bigger ones that are out there.
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 12: It's one everybody knows.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: You separate with your employer, and what did you do?
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: Pay for it on your own then?
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 11: Correct.
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 12: And I turned 65, which puts me into Medicare, all
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 12: well and good. Medicare Part A picks up. I didn't
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 12: do anything like that. When I separated, my health care
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 12: carried over. I wasn't required to have Part B, so
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 12: I had to get that solidified, predicated to law actions
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 12: that occurred in 22 under the previous administrations.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 3: We can go there another day, Ron.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 12: So that being said, I get this letter from this
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 12: third party saying that you no longer have coverage. And
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 12: both parties are blaming it on one another. And I
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 12: had them on a conference call, and we're all recording,
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 12: and it's clear as a day what the letter says
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 12: and what they're both saying. They're telling me it stinks
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 12: to be you. And I'm out just under 500 hours
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 12: and all this time trying to figure where I'm at.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 12: Do I have any kind of recourse for this to
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 12: cover my cost? I wasn't entitled to sign up for
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 12: Part B until July 1st. The suggestion I got from
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 12: the Social Security office, where you have to sign up,
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 12: which I physically went and did personally, so it's first-hand information,
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 12: that you might as well just sign up now so
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 12: that you have coverage, because I had to postpone getting
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 12: looked at because we had an injury situation, and I waited,
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 12: and here we are.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: I still don't... I didn't.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 12: Even find out until today, and this is, what, two
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 12: weeks now, that whether I even have health care coverage,
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 12: whether it's primary or secondary, I can't get no information,
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 12: and neither side of the national... health care insurance agency,
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 12: and their elected third party, who is the one that
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 12: generated the language. It's been proven on a three-way call.
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 12: They are technically negligent, but they won't admit it, but
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 12: they're the ones that wrote the letter, and the letter's clear.
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 2: It's clear as day.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 12: I do no longer have insurance, and it's retroactive two months.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 11: I still don't know why they terminated you. Me either.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 11: So you need to find out why, and perhaps you're fucked.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 11: Perhaps your 500, you could maybe have some recourse for
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 11: your time. I'm sorry, but.
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: Probably not.
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 12: If I were to look at it, how do I
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 12: look at it?
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 11: Well, first you need to ask them, why was my
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 11: coverage terminated? If they had a valid reason, then you
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 11: have no recourse. But it kind of stinks to be used,
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 11: not an answer. You need a clear answer as to
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 11: why it was terminated.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 16: Yeah.
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 12: The third party stated they will not render me that information.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 12: The third party clearly stated that with the National Insurance
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 12: Company in the conference call. It clearly stated we don't
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 12: release that information. And it's proven that even the big
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 12: insurance company even stated that the secondary stated, wrote the
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 12: letter and sent it. And I'm stuck at that point.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 12: And so where do I go with this? I can't even,
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 12: I mean, what do I do?
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 11: Did they give you an answer as to why they
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 11: don't release the information?
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 4: Nope.
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 2: Wouldn't answer it.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 11: Did you ask why?
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 4: We won't record it.
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: Why didn't you take Part B when you turned 65?
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 12: I'll get long-winded. What occurred is, like I stated a
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 12: moment ago, when I separated, I left under a contract
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 12: that I can carry my insurance. I didn't need Part B.
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 12: And subsequently, what occurred... I don't want to get into
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 12: all the politics side of it. What occurred in 22,
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 12: which is... post my retirement. I'd already been retired. What
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 12: they did was they confiscated the retirement side of the
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 12: healthcare of my retirement side and moved it into a
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 12: government fund. We can leave it there. And so what
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 12: subsequently I had to find out terminology, why am I
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 12: being told that I have to take part B, which
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 12: I don't, I literally at this conversation don't, but what
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 12: I needed to do was look into it and go
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 12: through all this government agency to find out where I
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 12: lay and where it comes down to is if I
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 12: don't take part B, I get hit with a 10% penalty.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 12: And if I give up the insurance that I took
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 12: from my employment, I can never get it back. So
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 12: then we get into primary and secondary insurance. With that
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 12: being the mindset, I've been trying to figure out where
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 12: does this lie? I couldn't even get a definitive answer
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 12: as to where even that lays. Now, today I find
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 12: out that my insurance company that I've had for years,
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 12: which is unnationally known, everybody knows who it is, they're
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 12: saying that you have at least health care coverage because
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 12: I need to get looked at because I've got an
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 12: internal injury that I need to really get remedied. So
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 12: I got MRIs requested. I pay for the office visit,
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 12: and there I stand. My question is this.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: Can you pause for one minute? Pause for one minute.
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: And then I've got to move along here. Just to
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: answer real quickly, you're on Medicare Part A, correct? Standard Medicare,
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 1: yes or no? All right. Here's what I tell you.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: This has nothing to do with the legal show. You
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: know what? You need to be on standard Medicare because
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: if you're not Medicare Advantage, if you're on standard Medicare,
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: you don't have to get any pre-approvals or you're not
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: on any PPOs or HMOs, okay, if you get on
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: standard Medicare. You follow me? I do follow you. Okay,
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 1: now listen to me. If you're 65, you get on
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: standard Medicare. You get a supplement, which is Plan B,
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: and you shop for supplements, and you want to plan–
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: That's part B, I should say, and you want a
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: plan G supplement. What is plan G? It means it
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: covers all your other expenses. Your total deductible will be
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: $ 275 for the year if you get standard Medicare and
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: you take part B and you get plan G. You
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 1: understand me? So you know what the cost of Medicare is,
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: about $ 200- something a month that comes out of your Social Security.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: That's not accurate. Well, no, that is what it costs.
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 4: No, it's not.
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 12: The reason I say that is because I had to
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 12: move money around when I retired, and it's showing as income.
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 12: That's why I'm at the $ 500.
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: Well, that's right. I understand the supplement. What I'm getting
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 1: at is— It shows income because you're over the limit. Listen,
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: I've got to move along. I understand that the IRMA
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: has affected you because of your retirement funds. There's no
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 1: getting around that. All I'm saying to you is get
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 1: Plan G, pay what that's through an individual company that
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: covers your deductible, and then move on with your life. Okay?
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 12: One final thought, Ron. One final thought.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 1: I know all this.
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 12: What I'm saying is I had the Social Security for Medicare.
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 12: fill out my paperwork to be rendered by June 30th
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 12: of this year. I subsequently had to put it in
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 12: in May, this past May.
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: When did you turn 65? When did you turn 65?
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: When did you turn 65?
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 12: March of this year, which gives me seven months.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: That's July the 1st is my deadline. I tell you what,
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: deal with the Social Security Administration. I mean, you're going
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 1: to go around and around. I understand, Irma, your income
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 1: was too high. That's the penalty that you pay. I
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 1: also can't figure out why you wouldn't go on Socialist
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: Medicare Part A, Part B, and pay for a Plan G.
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: It's a great plan. Your total expense.
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 12: That's not the question.
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 12: I'm not trying to be argumentative with.
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 11: You, Ron.
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 1: No, you are being argumentative. They can't answer your question
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: as to why you can't tell the attorneys why they
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 1: canceled your policy. How do you want them to answer
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: your question then?
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 12: Who wrote the letter, and why did they send it?
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: I can't get that. How would they know? They're sitting
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 1: in an illegal office. All right, thanks. I mean, is
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: there anywhere else we can go with that, guys? I mean,
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 1: I don't get it.
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 17: Right.
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 11: Maybe you should lecture on Medicare, though, Ron.
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: I understand.
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 11: That was well done. That was well done.
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 1: I've done so many programs over the years on Medicare.
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: And the guy just simply should have went on straight
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: Medicare when he turned 65. Got standard Medicare, not Medicare Advantage.
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 1: Should have got the Plan B and should have got
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 1: Part B and Plan G. And he pays $ 275. That's
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 1: your maximum deductible plus the cost monthly for Medicare and
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 1: the Plan B. Playing part B part. I don't know
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 1: why he doesn't do that.
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 16: When I sign up, I'm going to come to you
• 1:59:58
  Speaker 16: for advice, Ron.
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 1: I hope I'm around to help you. I would be honored.
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 1: You're on the air. Caller, hello. Line one.
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 24: Yes.
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 10: I have a question.
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 17: I'm an executor on my brother's estate, and we have
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 17: gotten rid of everything except his house, and we have
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 17: a realtor selling it. But my problem is the next-door
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 17: neighbor has harassed everybody that's looked at the house.
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 20: Oh, my.
• 2:00:27
  Speaker 17: And, like, there's a trespassing thing that we went to
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 17: court with just this past week. But they just held
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 17: it over because she got a lawyer. Anyhow, she videotapes
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 17: people that come with the realtor. She videotapes their car,
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 17: their license, their house, their person, and their children. And
• 2:00:55
  Speaker 17: it kills our sale of being able to sell this home.
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 1: What a lunatic neighbor.
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 16: Have you tried talking to her?
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 17: Yes, and then I said, if you want to buy
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 17: it and stuff, you know, because apparently she doesn't want
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 17: a neighbor, but she's done the same thing to the
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 17: neighbor on the other side of her, and she's already
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 17: on probation, but they... Haven't done anything to her.
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 9: Did you go to court for a criminal case for her?
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 17: Neither one of us are able to sell our house
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 17: because of her with the videotaping. And then she parks
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 17: her car right up against the kitchen, the drive that
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 17: goes over to the kitchen. And they say, oh, that's
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 17: a thorough road and stuff. The police doesn't want to help.
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 2:01:46
  Speaker 1: Listen to what Attorney Melfi is going to talk to
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 1: you about.
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 11: He said you just went to court for trespassing. Is
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 11: she charged criminally?
• 2:01:53
  Speaker 17: Well, we went before the judge, and they're giving the
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 17: second hearing and stuff.
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 2: What judge, ma'am?
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 13: I think she wants to trial.
• 2:02:03
  Speaker 11: What judge, honey?
• 2:02:04
  Speaker 17: Because she already has this on her record, and.
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 2: It didn't work the first time.
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 1: Please, answer the attorney's question.
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 11: What court did you go to?
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 16: What court, honey?
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 17: Camel.
• 2:02:13
  Speaker 16: Camel, okay. Was it municipal or was it civil?
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 2:02:19
  Speaker 16: Do you know what division?
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 17: It was just Mark.
• 2:02:22
  Speaker 16: What judge?
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 2: Pardon me?
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 17: The judge is Mark. Oh, gosh, I'm drawing a blank
• 2:02:29
  Speaker 17: right now.
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 2: He wouldn't let me.
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 17: Speak even though I was subpoenaed to go because I
• 2:02:35
  Speaker 17: spoke with the prosecutor.
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 11: Okay, so then it's a criminal case.
• 2:02:38
  Speaker 16: Yeah, prosecutor, so it's a criminal case.
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 11: Okay, so you spoke with the prosecutor. So you have
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 11: a criminal case. So I'm sure there's something in the
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 11: order that she can't continue to harass you. While the
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 11: case is pending, so she's already on probation.
• 2:02:55
  Speaker 17: She's still doing it, though. I mean, just somebody was
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 17: seeing it yesterday.
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, listen to what the attorney is saying, please.
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 11: What I would tell you is I wouldn't call the
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 11: police to come out. I would go make a police report.
• 2:03:08
  Speaker 16: Every single time.
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 17: We have made police reports because she has killed the
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 17: grass on the property and the shrubs and stuff, and
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 17: then we had it surveyed, and she had put a
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 17: fence on it, and it was on our property.
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 2: Well, that's not a job for the prosecutor, but if.
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 11: She's harassing you and harassing potential buyers, and next time
• 2:03:32
  Speaker 11: you go to court, bring that to the prosecutor's attention.
• 2:03:35
  Speaker 11: Anything with a fence would be civil. I mean, is
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 11: she intentionally killing your grass?
• 2:03:41
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes.
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 17: She said it was her property.
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 1: Okay, I need you to listen to the attorney. I've
• 2:03:46
  Speaker 1: got about a minute left.
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 11: How is she killing your grass, ma'am?
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 17: Well, she put some kind of, I don't know if
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 17: it's Roundup, but whatever kills it and the shrubs and
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 17: all that stuff, that it's two to three feet, the
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 17: whole length of the property.
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 2: And my brother's house is on a corner.
• 2:03:59
  Speaker 17: Lot, and she's the only neighbor on that side. and
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 17: then the other neighbor on the other side of her
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 17: has gone through this where she called 911 calls on him,
• 2:04:09
  Speaker 17: and she's already on probation with that.
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 1: Why don't you get a lawyer?
• 2:04:14
  Speaker 11: Make police reports, and next time you go to court
• 2:04:17
  Speaker 11: because you'll be subpoenaed, bring it to the prosecutor's attention.
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 17: I did have 23 pages of police reports and stuff
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 17: that we have made, and there is an order that
• 2:04:29
  Speaker 17: if she comes on the property, she'll be fined $ 1, 500.
• 2:04:33
  Speaker 17: But she does all this videotaping and all that stuff
• 2:04:36
  Speaker 17: from the road, and since she parks her car right
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 17: out by the.
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 2: Kitchen, she can take it from the pictures of them.
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 1: Should she get a lawyer, guys, or not?
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 16: I mean, she can talk to the prosecutor.
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 13: From ABC News, I'm Michelle Franzen. After weeks of stalled
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 13: talks between the U.S. and Iran, President Trump announcing a
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 13: final deal is close, he says, and could be signed
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 13: as early as this weekend. ABC's Louis Martinez says the
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 13: president called off his threat to carry out new military
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 13: strikes tonight and says Iran has been taking a pounding.
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 11: What does he mean by a pounding?
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 24: Well, he's talking about the airstrikes we saw last night.
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 24: And there was a lot of telegraphing about these airstrikes.
• 2:05:14
  Speaker 24: You normally don't hear in advance that the United States
• 2:05:17
  Speaker 24: is going to be carrying out military action. But you
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 24: heard both the president and Defense Secretary Hexeth talking about
• 2:05:22
  Speaker 24: these actions taking place and that there was a rationale
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 24: for them, which was to get Iran towards moving along
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 24: with the talks that have been stalled for weeks.
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 13: Stocks surging and oil prices fell on hopes of a
• 2:05:34
  Speaker 13: possible peace deal. The president has nominated former SEC chair
• 2:05:39
  Speaker 13: and current U.S. attorney Jay Clayton to be the next
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 13: director of national intelligence. Bill Pulte, tapped as acting DNI director,
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 13: is receiving bipartisan pushback. including failed votes today to extend
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 13: FISA's critical surveillance tools set to expire tomorrow. Here's ABC's
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 13: Catherine Foulders.
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 16: Of course, the House and the Senate have both left,
• 2:05:57
  Speaker 16: so we'll have to see.
• 2:05:58
  Speaker 15: But what's very clear about this is this is Trump
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 15: and the White House understanding that FISA wasn't going to
• 2:06:05
  Speaker 15: get through by the end of the week, and that
• 2:06:08
  Speaker 15: even though Trump was saying that Bill Pulte would serve
• 2:06:11
  Speaker 15: in an acting role, that really wasn't going to do
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 15: him any favors on Capitol Hill. He needed to make
• 2:06:16
  Speaker 15: a decision, and he needed to make a decision on
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 15: this quickly.
• 2:06:19
  Speaker 13: At the Pentagon today, a partial lockdown earlier has been lifted.
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 13: Has Matt Cruz responding to a potential air quality incident
• 2:06:26
  Speaker 13: at the facility? That issue triggered by sensors. The Pentagon
• 2:06:31
  Speaker 13: says tests determined it was a false alarm. The World
• 2:06:34
  Speaker 13: Cup officially underway. Mexico beating South Africa in the first
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 13: match today in Mexico City. Tomorrow night, the first U.S.-hosted
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 13: match takes place in Los Angeles, the U.S. taking on Paraguay.
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 13: You're listening to ABC News.
• 2:06:50
  Speaker 1: Well, it's Thursday edition 606 of Money Talks with John
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 1: Arnold on NewsRadio 570. We bring John on board, and
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 1: there is plenty to talk about tonight, John, to say
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 1: the least. Big, big day on the market. Big up
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 1: day on the market. First, let's get some analysis of
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 1: the market, the economy, and the Trump effect and everything else.
• 2:07:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know if we have enough time to cover
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 1: all of that.
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it starts with volatility, as we've talked about. I
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 2: know that if I'm sick of talking about it, I
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 2: know you and the audience are sick of talking about it,
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 2: so I don't know what else to say other than
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 2: the truth. Trump and volatility equal each other. And I
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 2: never see anything like it, which is something he always
• 2:07:36
  Speaker 2: says ironically. But I've really not seen a president talk
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 2: and literally make two sentences and literally change the direction
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 2: of the market within the day or within the week,
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 2: and he does that. I don't know that somewhat Donald
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 2: Trump and social media, because that didn't really exist in
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 2: the Reagan years and the Clinton years, but I do
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 2: know he does it. And with the social media, it
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 2: will change direction on the market within milliseconds.
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 1: And it's both bad and good.
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 2: It's good for guys like me. I love making, you know,
• 2:08:04
  Speaker 2: if you can catch me and you hit, you know,
• 2:08:06
  Speaker 2: in the eight 30, eight 70 year, and it goes
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 2: up to nine 90 in two days. Uh, that's good
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 2: for me. But if, if, if you're somebody that's like
• 2:08:14
  Speaker 2: on the rock party and you're trying to manage wealth
• 2:08:16
  Speaker 2: for people retiring, uh, That's really fearful and disheartening. So
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 2: it really drives the average investor crazy, probably the average
• 2:08:24
  Speaker 2: investment advisor crazy, because they're just trying to make sense
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 2: of it. For guys like me that are managing trading
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 2: stuff all day within the market, it's great. But, you know,
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 2: it's volatility in Trump, and the Trump effect is good
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 2: and bad.
• 2:08:38
  Speaker 3: For both sides of the party.
• 2:08:40
  Speaker 1: We're just going to have to wait and see to
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 1: see if, first and foremost, if this materializes. We've been
• 2:08:49
  Speaker 1: told so many times we're close to a deal, and
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 1: we're told it again this time. And the market has
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 1: reacted most of the time when he says this kind
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 1: of stuff, right?
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I thought, you know, J.D., I talked about
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 2: this a couple of weeks ago when J.D. Vance was
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 2: on television recently. I couldn't be on the podcast maybe
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 2: with you, but he openly said, I'm very, very, very
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 2: confident that, you know, oil prices are going to come
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 2: down this summer. And sure enough, literally that next few days,
• 2:09:20
  Speaker 2: they started drastically come down and it was kind of
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 2: like a handshake agreement on the table. Then Iran was
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 2: living up to their end.
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 11: U.S.
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 2: Was kind of living up to their art, to theirs.
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 2: And then I think Israel, you know, kind of kicked
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 2: the can off the lid again and started attacking Lebanon
• 2:09:36
  Speaker 2: and Trump and Israel got in a fight and, Iran
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 2: didn't really give you, you know what, and start attacking us.
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 2: So you can't just start, you know, blasting our allies,
• 2:09:44
  Speaker 2: et cetera, because they consider Israel the same as the
• 2:09:46
  Speaker 2: United States. So I do see their point. They look
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 2: at it like we're breaking the truce. We look at
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 2: it like they're breaking the truce. But at the end
• 2:09:54
  Speaker 2: of the day, you know, Trump has probably said a
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 2: billion times now that this thing's coming to an end.
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 2: We're on the corner from a ink in a deal.
• 2:10:00
  Speaker 2: And it never happens.
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 3: And so he's.
• 2:10:03
  Speaker 2: Cried wolf so much that You know, even people like
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 2: me that support him, it's hard to believe in anything
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 2: they say. And it's frustrating because he has so many
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 2: great policies, and I think he's taking us back in
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 2: the right direction. But stuff like this really affects the
• 2:10:18
  Speaker 2: market and affects the voters.
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 1: Right. So needless to say, by him saying what he
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 1: said today and by taking this Trump cancels the Iran
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 1: strike scheduled for this evening and by doing that, and
• 2:10:33
  Speaker 1: then claiming that a deal is near, the market goes
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 1: up huge today, absolutely huge. So you're operating now your
• 2:10:44
  Speaker 1: hedge funds. And when you guys are dealing from a
• 2:10:48
  Speaker 1: hedge fund standpoint, this type of day is a good
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 1: day then, is it not?
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 2: It's a nice one day because– If I can get, like...
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 2: I'm going to throw, like, some free data out there.
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 2: If I can get MU, which is Micron, at such
• 2:11:05
  Speaker 2: a discount, and NASA, which is a space technology stock,
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 2: and even, like, let's just throw something that everybody knows
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 2: out there, SPY, which is SP for 100.
• 2:11:15
  Speaker 3: If I can get that, you know, ridiculous.
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 2: Discount, that to me is like going to Giant Eagle
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 2: with 50% off coupons and buying groceries.
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 12: So..
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 2: It's a no brainer for.
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 3: A guy like me.
• 2:11:26
  Speaker 2: And, and, and yeah, I mean, I, I, uh, you know,
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 2: obviously I didn't give the whole kit and caboodle, but
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 2: I did give you, you know, some, some pretty pointed things.
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 3: If you were to do your research, like.
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 2: It was pretty easy for somebody who knows how to
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 2: manage money to make some money on those pullbacks. Again,
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 2: what I feel bad is for the people who don't
• 2:11:44
  Speaker 2: know how to manage money or the average investment person
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 2: that looks at the 401k a couple of times a month,
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 2: which is all they should. And they say, Holy, you know,
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 2: Holy crap. you know, 5% loss in a week. And
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 2: it's a drastic over-the-cliff drop. So, you know, again, good
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 2: for hedge fund traders and money managers, terrible for people
• 2:12:05
  Speaker 2: that are normal and that are not doing that.
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 1: But one thing you've got to say, though, even if
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 1: you saw just the normal investor, if you saw things
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 1: go down or the market go down, the upside is
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 1: pretty huge as well. So a lot of times all
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 1: that down is erased on a good day like today, perhaps. No, yeah,
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, no, no, listen, I'm.
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 2: Going to tell you, I'm behind on some of my positions,
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 2: not a lot, but I know I didn't get full-blown
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 2: profit on some things that I was in, but it
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 2: drastically changed today, let's just say that. The overall portfolio,
• 2:12:41
  Speaker 2: I thought it was, I'll be honest with you, I
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 2: thought it was going to be the end-of-the-month type situation.
• 2:12:44
  Speaker 3: I really did.
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 2: But, you know, it's coming out tonight, right, the IPO?
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 1: Yes, you're talking SpaceX IPO. What are your thoughts?
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. Uh, my thoughts are that you gotta be
• 2:12:56
  Speaker 2: really careful here because maybe they overpriced it. You know, tomorrow,
• 2:13:01
  Speaker 2: tomorrow is a big day because usually after you have
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 2: a 900 point or 650 point, and I'm, I'm kind
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 2: of exaggerating. I think it was six 40, uh, IPO. Um,
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 2: that's probably going to be a profit taking day tomorrow.
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 2: So you probably, you should, again, should be in a keyword.
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 2: You should have somewhat of a profit taking day. So, um,
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 2: for the IPO to come out tomorrow like it's going
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 2: to on a profit-taking day could hurt it. And I'm
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 2: talking in coulds, and I keep emphasizing that. But they're
• 2:13:34
  Speaker 2: saying it's going to come out, and I haven't got
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 2: the check because I was preparing for the show, $ 135
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 2: a share. The ticker is SPCX. They're looking to raise
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 2: $ 75 billion, the largest in history. And here's the killer.
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 2: This is the thing that a human brain, including mine,
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 2: can't wrap around. Well, and they're going to raise They're
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 2: probably going to have a valuation, excuse me. They're going
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 2: to have a valuation.
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 8: $ 1.
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 2: 8 trillion, the T word, trillion. So if you can
• 2:14:02
  Speaker 2: wrap your head around an IPO that's going to create
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 2: a company that has a valuation of $ 1. 8 trillion, I
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 2: don't know what to say. It's just, I think it's
• 2:14:13
  Speaker 2: just mind-blowing. I never thought I'd see that in my lifetime.
• 2:14:17
  Speaker 1: And I mean, that one stock... Could have an effect
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 1: on the market tomorrow, just that one stock alone, could
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 1: it not?
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't say. I'm assuming that's going to be
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 2: the NASDAQ. I don't think that it applied for the
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 2: Dow Jones. I don't know if it's going to. I
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 2: know an exchange is going to hit, obviously. But, yes,
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 2: I do believe that could sway the market a little bit,
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 2: depending on how it comes out. Like, again, if it
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 2: comes out at 135 and the market thinks it's worth
• 2:14:44
  Speaker 2: 100 and there's a minus 35% on the share price tomorrow, Again,
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 2: just a complete hypothetical scenario. That could rock the market.
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 2: You could say, you know, wait a minute, this thing
• 2:14:55
  Speaker 2: is not as great as everybody says. You know, the
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 2: stakes might work the sizzle. So tomorrow is going to
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 2: be a record-changing day tomorrow either way on the stock
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 2: market as far as IPOs go.
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 1: And I'm behind.
• 2:15:10
  Speaker 2: I'm an Elon Musk fan. I think you are too.
• 2:15:12
  Speaker 1: And there's plenty of people that are that way that
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 1: are probably interested in getting in long-term maybe. Absolutely.
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 2: Again, if you're a long-term holder and you can get
• 2:15:23
  Speaker 2: on the secondary market after it comes off the IPO,
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 2: and you think it's a value price or target price,
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 2: you live with it.
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 2: But if you're trying to day trade SpaceX tomorrow after
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 2: it comes off the IPO, I think you're a fool.
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens. It is trading on the
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 2: NASDAQ tomorrow.
• 2:15:41
  Speaker 4: So..
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 2: We're going to see. Tomorrow's going to be a crazy day. Crazy,
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 2: crazy day.
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 1: So there's many variables tomorrow with this market that went
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 1: up high today. If there's profit-taking, you're saying, and this
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 1: SpaceX IPO, going to be a unique day to a
• 2:15:59
  Speaker 1: certain extent.
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 12: It is.
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 2: Again, I mean, for a NASDAQ, they go up 640,
• 2:16:04
  Speaker 2: and the Dow Jones will go up 900 and something. Typically,
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 2: after those days, you get profit-taking days. It's easy money
• 2:16:10
  Speaker 2: for people that are trading. So they could artificially bring
• 2:16:13
  Speaker 2: that down just because the overall market could be down.
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 2: I have zero factual basis on what I'm saying. This
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 2: is truly a guess like anybody else. So I just
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 2: want to make that clear.
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 1: I didn't know if you wanted to, I forgot to
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 1: ask you about your opening statement that you usually like
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 1: to read before we get started.
• 2:16:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 1: Go ahead.
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 2: I'll just say, you know, the money talk show is
• 2:16:35
  Speaker 2: strictly for investment advice purposes. It's educational, strictly no investment advice.
• 2:16:42
  Speaker 2: Please consult your own tax advisor and or investment professional
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 2: before making any investment decisions. All markets carry the risk
• 2:16:48
  Speaker 2: of loss of principal.
• 2:16:50
  Speaker 1: So when you take a look at if Trump does
• 2:16:54
  Speaker 1: this ceasefire, he says an agreement is basically a done deal.
• 2:16:58
  Speaker 1: They just got to sign off on it. If that
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 1: stuff doesn't materialize, as we've seen in the past, I mean,
• 2:17:05
  Speaker 1: that can have a negative effect on the market. If
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 1: it doesn't materialize, we could see oil prices go back up.
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 1: We could see the stock market go back down. That's
• 2:17:14
  Speaker 1: how volatile this situation is.
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 3: Agree?
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 18: Agree.
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think anytime I got talks, this is old hat,
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 2: but tariff, inflation, interest rates, space, Iran war, whatever he says,
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 2: there's a magnet to the market on it and he
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 2: can flow it either way. But I think that tomorrow,
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 2: I don't think, I don't see the market going down crazy.
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, you have two pieces of great news coming.
• 2:17:40
  Speaker 2: I think that they're probably going to come to some
• 2:17:43
  Speaker 2: kind of artificial handshake tomorrow with Iran or tonight. And
• 2:17:46
  Speaker 2: I think that you know, SpaceX is probably going to
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 2: be a positive thing tomorrow i really do all right
• 2:17:52
  Speaker 2: it's going to and i so let me tell you
• 2:17:54
  Speaker 2: something that uh you know relates to the firm that
• 2:17:57
  Speaker 2: bought me so me i read every monday to kind
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 2: of do our thing on the investments. We consult with
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 2: each other to help the clients at Rockport. And two
• 2:18:07
  Speaker 2: weeks ago, we put together some stuff that's going to
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 2: capture SpaceX. So really proud of that. So if the
• 2:18:12
  Speaker 2: folks are listening that are with Rockport, I would say contact.
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 3: Joe and Adam and talk about some of the moves
• 2:18:20
  Speaker 3: we made.
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 2: I think they'll be very happy.
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 1: All right. Glad to hear that. So let's talk a
• 2:18:25
  Speaker 1: little bit about your hedge funds. John Arnold has started
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 1: his hedge fund, 100 investors, still some slots open. Once
• 2:18:33
  Speaker 1: it reaches 100, it's closed off. So if you're interested
• 2:18:37
  Speaker 1: in investing in June, you wouldn't be into the fund
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 1: until July, correct? July 1st. That's correct. Okay, if I
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 1: have it accurate. So if you're interested in getting into
• 2:18:51
  Speaker 1: the hedge fund that is managed by John Arnold and
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 1: a couple of other folks. We'll get into them momentarily.
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 1: If you're interested in getting into that, we'll let you
• 2:19:00
  Speaker 1: know how to do that phone number-wise and website-wise momentarily. So,
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 1: stand by for that. I want to talk to you
• 2:19:07
  Speaker 1: about your hedge fund and what you were saying about
• 2:19:10
  Speaker 1: the VIX last week and versus what happens.
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, I'm not trying to say I'm a
• 2:19:18
  Speaker 2: crystal ball or I'm predicting the market. I'm just saying
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 2: last week on our show, I said... I was pretty
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 2: worried because the VIX was in that 14 to 16 range.
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 2: I want to say 15 to 16. And the last
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 2: time it was in that 15, 16 range, it really
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 2: spiked up in the 20s. And then sure enough, what
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 2: followed was the market took a really big kick in
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 2: the ass. And this exact same pattern happened right after
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 2: the show. So that VIX went down to that 15,
• 2:19:47
  Speaker 2: 16 mark. And sure enough, well, listen, they're interchangeably. What
• 2:19:53
  Speaker 2: I'm saying is they work hand in hand. So market
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 2: goes down, VIX goes down, VIX goes down, market goes down.
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 2: So they kind of beat off each other. So the
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 2: reason for me telling you that is it was kind
• 2:20:07
  Speaker 2: of cool to see that it reacted like I thought
• 2:20:10
  Speaker 2: it would happen because there really wasn't bad news up
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 2: until that point. But that VIX had been trending down,
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 2: which means there was too much calm. And too much
• 2:20:19
  Speaker 2: calm usually equals something around the corner to spike it
• 2:20:23
  Speaker 2: a little bit.
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 3: And I need to say, something we probably need to
• 2:20:28
  Speaker 3: talk about that should have drove people crazy, and I
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 3: mean crazy, is what caused the first volatility movement was
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 3: the fact that the jobs report came out too good.
• 2:20:37
  Speaker 2: That is mind-blowing to me. I still can't, being 50
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 2: and being through various markets, bear and bull, I can't
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 2: wrap my head around that good news is bad news.
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 2: And when I say bad news, I mean minus 1,000
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 2: points on the Dow Jones bad news.
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 1: Because of a good jobs report?
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 25: Yes.
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 2: That's the underlying great thing about the American economy is
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 2: our people have jobs.
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 3: They're not socialist jobs. They're true jobs.
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 2: And that brought the market down. I'm not talking like
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 2: 200 points. I'm talking 1,000 points.
• 2:21:07
  Speaker 1: Explain that. That doesn't make a lick of sense to me.
• 2:21:11
  Speaker 2: But that's been going on, man. That's been going on.
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 2: We talk about, and Andrew Smith used to talk about
• 2:21:15
  Speaker 2: this with me, the crack in the market is interest rates.
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 2: And corporate America is addicted to low interest rates. Good
• 2:21:23
  Speaker 2: job reports means that the Fed doesn't have a reason
• 2:21:26
  Speaker 2: to decrease interest rates, which means corporate America can't.
• 2:21:29
  Speaker 3: Get on the government-free TID anymore.
• 2:21:31
  Speaker 2: That's what that means. That is flat-out, bottom-line talk what
• 2:21:34
  Speaker 2: that means. That means no freebies on the interest rates.
• 2:21:39
  Speaker 2: Corporate America has to pay a little bit like we
• 2:21:41
  Speaker 2: do for financing projects and different things and services. That's
• 2:21:46
  Speaker 2: exactly what that means. So good JAWS report now equals
• 2:21:50
  Speaker 2: bad interest rate, which, in my opinion, is good interest rate.
• 2:21:54
  Speaker 2: No interest rate move is good interest rate move because
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 2: any time... You're playing around with something artificial in our economy.
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 2: You win the battle and you lose the war. So
• 2:22:04
  Speaker 2: I'm just calling it like I see it. It's bonkers
• 2:22:07
  Speaker 2: to me. I think it was used for big money
• 2:22:10
  Speaker 2: to have an excuse to run the market down. But
• 2:22:14
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it did go down
• 2:22:16
  Speaker 2: based on that. And then the follow-up was Iran and
• 2:22:20
  Speaker 2: the United States and Israel all went out each other again.
• 2:22:26
  Speaker 2: And there clearly is not a ceasefire.
• 2:22:28
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 2:22:29
  Speaker 2: For me, it's like when you say there's a ceasefire
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 2: and you're still bombing each other, that to me is
• 2:22:35
  Speaker 2: not a ceasefire.
• 2:22:36
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 2:22:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know. It's like almost we speak different languages
• 2:22:41
  Speaker 2: now after COVID. It's unbelievable to me. Yeah, yeah.
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 1: A ceasefire doesn't mean you keep on firing. I always
• 2:22:48
  Speaker 1: took it literally. But apparently it's different is what you're saying.
• 2:22:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. There's so many, like, men aren't women anymore, cops
• 2:22:55
  Speaker 2: are bad, criminals are good. I feel like I live
• 2:22:58
  Speaker 2: in a bizarre world. Jaws report equals bad. Great Jaws
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 2: report equals bad, bad market. I live in a backwards world.
• 2:23:06
  Speaker 1: What effect, if any, does this new Fed chairman going
• 2:23:09
  Speaker 1: to have? I mean, is that– and what are your
• 2:23:12
  Speaker 1: thoughts about it?
• 2:23:15
  Speaker 2: Well, from a greed standpoint, he's good for me. He's
• 2:23:17
  Speaker 2: good for corporate America. You know, corporate America getting– okay,
• 2:23:21
  Speaker 2: let me back up why I'm saying this. I think
• 2:23:25
  Speaker 2: he is, without saying wink-wink, is going to do what
• 2:23:28
  Speaker 2: Trump pleases. I think the reason why Jerome Powell and
• 2:23:31
  Speaker 2: Trump didn't get along is because Jerome Powell was basically
• 2:23:34
  Speaker 2: his own man, which you've got to give a lot
• 2:23:36
  Speaker 2: of credit for. In addition to that, I think he
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 2: swung a little bit left, and I think he probably
• 2:23:44
  Speaker 2: did things in spite of Trump.
• 2:23:46
  Speaker 1: It seemed to me, and I would want to ask
• 2:23:48
  Speaker 1: you this, it seemed to me he navigated the economy well.
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 1: pretty good during some difficult times.
• 2:23:55
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 2:23:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, I can't look at him and say, boy,
• 2:23:59
  Speaker 1: this guy did a lousy job. We had some difficult
• 2:24:01
  Speaker 1: times when he was running a Fed, and it seemed
• 2:24:03
  Speaker 1: like we didn't have any major disruptions with him at
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 1: the helm. Would you agree?
• 2:24:12
  Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more. I couldn't agree more. I'm a
• 2:24:14
  Speaker 2: guy who calls it like I see it. With or
• 2:24:16
  Speaker 2: against him, I agree with that sentiment totally. It's a
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 2: math thing, and the math says he eased into it
• 2:24:24
  Speaker 2: to where people forget how bad 2022 was, and that's
• 2:24:28
  Speaker 2: because they had raised interest rates too fast, right? So
• 2:24:33
  Speaker 2: he gradually brought them down to what I think is
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 2: an equilibrium, which is fair. Hey, I think six and
• 2:24:38
  Speaker 2: a quarter, six and a half percent for.
• 2:24:40
  Speaker 1: A mortgage loan is fair.
• 2:24:40
  Speaker 3: I know everybody wants three, four. That's what I got.
• 2:24:44
  Speaker 2: Hell, if I could refinance my building at four right now,
• 2:24:47
  Speaker 2: I'd do it today.
• 2:24:48
  Speaker 3: But my point is..
• 2:24:51
  Speaker 2: But 6% is fair, which is what I'm paying. You
• 2:24:54
  Speaker 2: get what I'm saying?
• 2:24:55
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 2:24:55
  Speaker 2: So I think that he eased it to where he
• 2:24:59
  Speaker 2: didn't create more superinflation. In the long run, I think
• 2:25:03
  Speaker 2: he probably helped Trump. But I think Trump is in
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 2: a situation.
• 2:25:07
  Speaker 3: Where he's trying to spend himself out of inflation.
• 2:25:10
  Speaker 2: And maybe that will work.
• 2:25:11
  Speaker 1: Maybe it won't.
• 2:25:13
  Speaker 2: One of the things that I know that they're doing
• 2:25:14
  Speaker 2: behind the scenes in the long run, that's what Ed Squire,
• 2:25:16
  Speaker 2: remember the guy that I had on the show, a
• 2:25:19
  Speaker 2: couple of guys, they think that Trump might be right
• 2:25:22
  Speaker 2: here because with AI taking over, this is the chess move,
• 2:25:27
  Speaker 2: I think, that they're playing, J.D. Vance and the Trump party.
• 2:25:30
  Speaker 2: I think that with AI kind of taking a lot
• 2:25:33
  Speaker 2: of jobs, that's going to affect the inflation, right? Because
• 2:25:38
  Speaker 2: now a jobs reporter should start to come down, which
• 2:25:44
  Speaker 2: would give reasons for decreasing interest rates in the future.
• 2:25:48
  Speaker 2: We think that is the chess game as money managers,
• 2:25:50
  Speaker 2: as fund managers. Can't prove it, but really, on the
• 2:25:54
  Speaker 2: cover of the magazine, what they're doing doesn't make sense.
• 2:25:56
  Speaker 2: If they want to decrease interest rates, it typically, and
• 2:25:59
  Speaker 2: Andrew would verify this, that typically is going to cause
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 2: more inflation. So the decreased interest rates usually... Now, I
• 2:26:06
  Speaker 2: think that the counterbalance, like I said, is with AEI
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 2: coming into existence and really starting to take white-collar jobs
• 2:26:13
  Speaker 2: and gray-collar jobs... I think it's a counterbalance with the
• 2:26:17
  Speaker 2: interest rate decrease. I think that's how they're going to
• 2:26:19
  Speaker 2: pull it off. That's a complete theory. I have no
• 2:26:23
  Speaker 2: data to support that.
• 2:26:26
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be interesting? I mean, there was talk where
• 2:26:31
  Speaker 1: when you're looking at the odds. they were saying there's
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 1: a 40% chance of an interest rate increase, a 40%
• 2:26:38
  Speaker 1: chance of that happening. Listen, I would be the guy
• 2:26:41
  Speaker 1: that would say, don't touch it at all. Keep it
• 2:26:44
  Speaker 1: where it is or lower it. But certainly a 40%
• 2:26:48
  Speaker 1: increase would, I think, be troubling to the economy.
• 2:26:54
  Speaker 2: That would be catastrophic. I would guess that that equals
• 2:26:59
  Speaker 2: a minus $ 3, 000 on the Dow Jones rate. maybe a
• 2:27:03
  Speaker 2: minus $ 1, 500 on the NASDAQ. I think that is devastating
• 2:27:07
  Speaker 2: for the market if they do that.
• 2:27:09
  Speaker 1: Over all these years, John Arnold's our guest, Money Talks,
• 2:27:13
  Speaker 1: News Radio, 570 WQN. Over all these years, in the many,
• 2:27:16
  Speaker 1: many years that you've dealt with the stock market, what
• 2:27:20
  Speaker 1: you're seeing right now, just this volatility, and Joe uses
• 2:27:25
  Speaker 1: the word parabolic, you know, stocks are parabolic in many cases.
• 2:27:29
  Speaker 1: What is your, I mean, is... How do I phrase this?
• 2:27:34
  Speaker 1: Is is it a bothersome time when you look at
• 2:27:39
  Speaker 1: it how do you assess this i mean it's good
• 2:27:42
  Speaker 1: i guess for the hedge fund but it's it's weird
• 2:27:45
  Speaker 1: is what i'm trying to say.
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 2: Well what's weird is we're running in we're going like
• 2:27:51
  Speaker 2: i i said this 10 years on 10 years ago
• 2:27:53
  Speaker 2: on the show we were doing together monday is we're
• 2:27:56
  Speaker 2: going into a new paradigm of economy, and now it's here.
• 2:28:02
  Speaker 2: And that paradigm is we're shifting from human to computer
• 2:28:06
  Speaker 2: and robots.
• 2:28:07
  Speaker 1: Right. Now, bear with me for one minute, because I
• 2:28:10
  Speaker 1: want you to finish a thought coming up here, because
• 2:28:12
  Speaker 1: we ended a program and had some calls on it
• 2:28:15
  Speaker 1: the next day. When I believe you said, and correct
• 2:28:18
  Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, AI... really either scares you or
• 2:28:24
  Speaker 1: bothers you or you weren't keen on it. Do you
• 2:28:27
  Speaker 1: remember ending the program with that once?
• 2:28:29
  Speaker 2: It scares the manure out of me. It scares the
• 2:28:30
  Speaker 2: manure out of me. Straight up tell you.
• 2:28:33
  Speaker 1: And can you elaborate? You ended a program once and
• 2:28:37
  Speaker 1: you said that. The following day I had a couple
• 2:28:40
  Speaker 1: of calls on that because we ran out of time.
• 2:28:44
  Speaker 1: Would you be willing to talk a little bit more
• 2:28:46
  Speaker 1: about that tonight? I would love to.
• 2:28:48
  Speaker 3: I would love to.
• 2:28:49
  Speaker 1: All right. Start, and then when we get to our headlines, well,
• 2:28:52
  Speaker 1: I tell you what, just pause, and then we'll cover
• 2:28:54
  Speaker 1: that after the headlines. All right. I want John to
• 2:28:58
  Speaker 1: address that. And folks, those of you that called me
• 2:29:01
  Speaker 1: the next day said, well, what did he mean by that? Well,
• 2:29:03
  Speaker 1: I guess you'll find out coming up. This is Money
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 1: Talks with John Arnold. We'll tell you about his hedge
• 2:29:08
  Speaker 1: fund coming up. We'll have him address AI. We'll tell
• 2:29:10
  Speaker 1: you about his hedge fund. It's what John is doing
• 2:29:13
  Speaker 1: right now. Tell you about the criteria. Tell you about
• 2:29:15
  Speaker 1: how many people can get into it. Tell you everything
• 2:29:17
  Speaker 1: about the hedge fund coming up, including how you can
• 2:29:19
  Speaker 1: be a participant in it if you meet the criteria.
• 2:29:22
  Speaker 1: That's all coming up in the second half of the
• 2:29:24
  Speaker 1: program here on NewsRadio 570 WKBN. This is Money Talks
• 2:29:28
  Speaker 1: with John Arnold. We have a pause for the headlines.
• 2:29:31
  Speaker 1: That's coming up next, and then we'll come back with
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 1: segment number two. John Arnold, Money Talks. It's Thursdays at
• 2:29:37
  Speaker 1: 6 here on NewsRadio 570 WKBN. On a beautiful Thursday evening,
• 2:29:41
  Speaker 1: it's 81 degrees. John answers the AI question, talks about
• 2:29:45
  Speaker 1: the hedge funds, and more coming up on Segment 2.
• 2:29:48
  Speaker 1: All right, from NewsRadio 570, WKVN, Segment 2 with John
• 2:29:52
  Speaker 1: Arnold on Money Talks Thursdays at 6. We'll get into
• 2:29:55
  Speaker 1: the hedge fund coming up in a bit. Explain what
• 2:29:58
  Speaker 1: you meant when you ended that program with that cliffhanger,
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say a couple weeks ago, what you
• 2:30:03
  Speaker 1: said negatively about AI.
• 2:30:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I learned from the best on the cliffhanger. Here's
• 2:30:10
  Speaker 2: the thing, man. AI scare remains high in 2026. It's
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 2: fueled by layoffs. Some executive warnings, which I'm going to
• 2:30:17
  Speaker 2: talk about that. Tech adoption, which I'm going to talk
• 2:30:21
  Speaker 2: about here in a second. But you've got a perfect
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 2: storm coming here. And here's what scares me. Let me
• 2:30:28
  Speaker 2: tell you what scares me. Because I lived through this
• 2:30:30
  Speaker 2: a little bit already. But everybody was wrong on the outcome.
• 2:30:34
  Speaker 2: And I.
• 2:30:37
  Speaker 3: Think it's not the case here.
• 2:30:39
  Speaker 2: I lived in the dot-com bubble. I started my investment
• 2:30:42
  Speaker 2: career in 2000, right? Right before the start of the
• 2:30:46
  Speaker 2: second worst bear market ever, which is crazy. You can
• 2:30:49
  Speaker 2: talk about bad timing. But during that crisis, I remember
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 2: before the crisis, everybody's winning on these dot-com stocks. And
• 2:30:58
  Speaker 2: where I'm going with it is, like, all of a sudden,
• 2:31:01
  Speaker 2: you went from making 8% on a mutual fund now
• 2:31:04
  Speaker 2: to 5.75. You went from making a big rip, which
• 2:31:09
  Speaker 2: is a huge commission on stock, to now TD Ameritrade
• 2:31:12
  Speaker 2: and StockTrade and E-Trade and all those guys, which got
• 2:31:15
  Speaker 2: sucked up, by the way. But back then, there was
• 2:31:17
  Speaker 2: a dot-com bubble. There was a day trading slash stock
• 2:31:21
  Speaker 2: trading custodian popping up online to where now, all of
• 2:31:24
  Speaker 2: a sudden, you need a stockbroker. So our... our industry,
• 2:31:28
  Speaker 2: the investment industry freaked out all of a sudden, what
• 2:31:30
  Speaker 2: are we going to do? You know, everybody's going to
• 2:31:32
  Speaker 2: lose them. You know, everybody's going to leave us.
• 2:31:34
  Speaker 3: We don't, they don't need us anymore, et cetera.
• 2:31:37
  Speaker 2: And all the big names, Merrill Lynch, UBS, everybody that.
• 2:31:40
  Speaker 3: Was anybody back there and had that scare.
• 2:31:43
  Speaker 2: And guess what happened? The truth is nothing, nothing changed.
• 2:31:47
  Speaker 2: It just actually started to create more investors is what happened.
• 2:31:50
  Speaker 2: And they figured, and then the investors started to do
• 2:31:52
  Speaker 2: it on their own, made money in the good markets.
• 2:31:55
  Speaker 2: Like everybody does. and completely lost their shirt, and I
• 2:31:58
  Speaker 2: mean everything, in 2001, 2002. So all of a sudden,
• 2:32:03
  Speaker 2: people were attracted back to stockbrokers, investment guys like me.
• 2:32:08
  Speaker 2: So there wasn't a dead end. It actually helped us
• 2:32:11
  Speaker 2: and scaled us to a different level. I still hate it.
• 2:32:15
  Speaker 2: I wish things were old, but I'm old and cantankerous
• 2:32:18
  Speaker 2: and old-fashioned. I still read the Wall Street Journal paper
• 2:32:21
  Speaker 2: version on that guy.
• 2:32:22
  Speaker 3: Okay, fast forward.
• 2:32:24
  Speaker 2: This is what scares me. AI is the stop sign.
• 2:32:28
  Speaker 2: It is the end. It's genuinely, genuinely replacing us. It
• 2:32:34
  Speaker 2: is better, it functions better than any human being you
• 2:32:38
  Speaker 2: can imagine. It's like a billion times faster thinking than
• 2:32:41
  Speaker 2: a human brain. It's very cost efficient.
• 2:32:45
  Speaker 1: Companies are in the..
• 2:32:47
  Speaker 2: Capitalism is defeating capitalism. We're saying bring on AI because
• 2:32:51
  Speaker 2: we're inventors.
• 2:32:52
  Speaker 3: We're commerce, right?
• 2:32:54
  Speaker 2: And here's the thing that's killing us. Like I talked
• 2:32:57
  Speaker 2: to you about a couple weeks ago in the program,
• 2:32:59
  Speaker 2: I went to Congress, talked with Bill Johnson, took him
• 2:33:02
  Speaker 2: out to dinner, me and Chuck George and a bunch
• 2:33:04
  Speaker 2: of people, and he said, just because we can do
• 2:33:07
  Speaker 2: it doesn't mean we should do it. And what he
• 2:33:09
  Speaker 2: meant by that is we should probably stop this crazy
• 2:33:13
  Speaker 2: technology that's going to take over our commerce and our
• 2:33:16
  Speaker 2: economy before it's too late, because once it's too late,
• 2:33:19
  Speaker 2: the cat's out of the bag.
• 2:33:19
  Speaker 4: It's over.
• 2:33:20
  Speaker 2: It's over. We're going to socialism. So... He was right,
• 2:33:24
  Speaker 2: but here's the problem. The big companies, the countries that
• 2:33:27
  Speaker 2: we compete with, Russia, China, India, which is the second
• 2:33:30
  Speaker 2: largest population in the world, they're on our tails. They
• 2:33:34
  Speaker 2: might even be better at AI. And if we don't
• 2:33:37
  Speaker 2: compete with them, if we don't meet their standard of AI,
• 2:33:41
  Speaker 2: we're going to be left behind, and they're going to
• 2:33:42
  Speaker 2: get us anyway. So we're kind of stuck in this trap.
• 2:33:47
  Speaker 2: And I see the only way out of it, and
• 2:33:49
  Speaker 2: Elon Musk has even talked about it, is guaranteed income,
• 2:33:52
  Speaker 2: which I'm 100% against. Because once you get guaranteed income,
• 2:33:55
  Speaker 2: you've taken entrepreneurialism and you've killed it. You've taken artistic
• 2:33:59
  Speaker 2: ability and creative ability and you've killed it. You've halted
• 2:34:03
  Speaker 2: everything that makes our nation great. You go to New
• 2:34:06
  Speaker 2: York City, like I went here with the kids about
• 2:34:08
  Speaker 2: four months ago. You see the greatness that was built
• 2:34:12
  Speaker 2: from people who came over here the right way with
• 2:34:13
  Speaker 2: a nickel and a loaf of bread, and how Jewish
• 2:34:16
  Speaker 2: people went from horrible things that happened to them over
• 2:34:20
  Speaker 2: in Germany, coming here and creating a great business. There's
• 2:34:23
  Speaker 2: so many great things that happened from creativity that are
• 2:34:25
  Speaker 2: going to come to a screeching halt. So what really
• 2:34:28
  Speaker 2: bothers me is that companies have announced approximately 87,000 job
• 2:34:32
  Speaker 2: cuts to AI in the first months of 2006. I
• 2:34:41
  Speaker 2: want you to think about it. 90,000 jobs in the
• 2:34:45
  Speaker 2: first five months of 2006 have been cut due to AI.
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 2: Tech alone has 120,000, 150,000 layoffs year to date. Just tech. Meta, Amazon, Cisco, Intuit, Block, etc.
• 2:34:58
  Speaker 1: Those guys.
• 2:34:59
  Speaker 2: That's what scares me. That's the future of America. And
• 2:35:02
  Speaker 2: no one's doing a damn thing to stop it because
• 2:35:04
  Speaker 2: of greed. And that's what scares me. There is no, well,
• 2:35:09
  Speaker 2: the AI is going to fail us and then we're
• 2:35:10
  Speaker 2: going to want human beings again. No, the AI is
• 2:35:13
  Speaker 2: only going to get better. We're in the infestation of
• 2:35:16
  Speaker 2: this thing, man.
• 2:35:17
  Speaker 1: Infestation.
• 2:35:18
  Speaker 2: And when Elon Musk says you better stop in his
• 2:35:20
  Speaker 2: tracks or it's going to destroy us, guess what? I'm
• 2:35:23
  Speaker 2: taking Elon Musk for $ 1, 000 every single time. Every time
• 2:35:27
  Speaker 2: I'm voting on that guy. And that's what scares me.
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 2: And I hope I'm not overselling it, but show me
• 2:35:33
  Speaker 2: that I'm wrong.
• 2:35:34
  Speaker 11: Seriously.
• 2:35:34
  Speaker 3: I want somebody to argue me with objective fact that
• 2:35:37
  Speaker 3: I'm wrong.
• 2:35:38
  Speaker 1: Well, first of all, those numbers that you just gave,
• 2:35:41
  Speaker 1: those aren't projections. Those are numbers that have already happened,
• 2:35:44
  Speaker 1: is what you're saying, in the beginnings of 2026 here,
• 2:35:47
  Speaker 1: in the early stages of AI. Did I get that correct?
• 2:35:50
  Speaker 17: Yep.
• 2:35:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, those numbers, I mean, I'm sitting back listening
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 1: to those numbers. They're significant. 90,000, 120,000. That's a lot
• 2:35:59
  Speaker 1: of people that lost a lot of jobs. And in
• 2:36:02
  Speaker 1: most of those cases, I'm going to speculate pretty decent
• 2:36:06
  Speaker 1: paying jobs. Pretty decent.
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 2: What do you think Matt is paying? What do you
• 2:36:12
  Speaker 2: think Apple and Google are paying?
• 2:36:14
  Speaker 1: Okay, so decent paying. Okay, good paying jobs. And just
• 2:36:18
  Speaker 1: bear with me one step further. And it's going to
• 2:36:21
  Speaker 1: be difficult for those people to be able to rebound
• 2:36:25
  Speaker 1: in something close to what they had. Would you agree
• 2:36:28
  Speaker 1: with that?
• 2:36:30
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 2:36:31
  Speaker 1: I'm living.
• 2:36:33
  Speaker 4: Go ahead.
• 2:36:35
  Speaker 2: I'm currently living. And this is, listen, Rich Ferenczak said
• 2:36:38
  Speaker 2: something to me the other day.
• 2:36:40
  Speaker 3: Which is true. Here's the answer.
• 2:36:42
  Speaker 2: I didn't answer his question. He said, John, you have
• 2:36:46
  Speaker 2: this big check and create a nice wealth for yourself.
• 2:36:49
  Speaker 2: Why don't you just sit down and enjoy your money?
• 2:36:52
  Speaker 2: Why don't you just enjoy your life? You know what
• 2:36:54
  Speaker 2: the answer is? Because I don't think that's a lot
• 2:36:56
  Speaker 2: of money anymore. I don't think my kids are going
• 2:36:58
  Speaker 2: to have a job, and I don't think they're going
• 2:37:00
  Speaker 2: to have a home. I think you're going to have 10%
• 2:37:02
  Speaker 2: of this nation that is in the high net worth,
• 2:37:05
  Speaker 2: like Europe, that owns the voting and really controls the country,
• 2:37:10
  Speaker 2: and the rest of us are going to be on socialism.
• 2:37:12
  Speaker 2: I don't want my kids on socialism. That's why I'm
• 2:37:15
  Speaker 2: trying to go to the next level of the hedge fund.
• 2:37:17
  Speaker 2: That's why I'm still working hard. And that's the answer.
• 2:37:19
  Speaker 2: I didn't get the answer to that. What scares me
• 2:37:22
  Speaker 2: is what I'm talking about, and I'm living it. Normally,
• 2:37:25
  Speaker 2: people that got what I got a couple years ago,
• 2:37:28
  Speaker 2: which I'm very fortunate, to, would just say, my God,
• 2:37:31
  Speaker 2: I hit the lottery. You know, I live it up.
• 2:37:36
  Speaker 1: Well, let's be realistic. Built through years and years and
• 2:37:39
  Speaker 1: years of hard work. Let's be realistic.
• 2:37:41
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 2:37:42
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 2:37:42
  Speaker 2: No, no, no. I earned every dollar.
• 2:37:45
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:37:45
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying I don't have a quit in me
• 2:37:47
  Speaker 2: because I'm scared of AI. That's the truth. I am
• 2:37:50
  Speaker 2: scared of where we're going in this country. That is 100%
• 2:37:53
  Speaker 2: the accurate truth. I hate using that because I hate
• 2:37:57
  Speaker 2: the word scared. I hate it.
• 2:37:58
  Speaker 1: All right, but when you were talking about what troubles
• 2:38:01
  Speaker 1: you about AI, it almost sounded like it's going to
• 2:38:05
  Speaker 1: suck capitalism away to a large extent. You were talking
• 2:38:08
  Speaker 1: about people would come here and you still see it today,
• 2:38:11
  Speaker 1: not just back then. You still see it today that
• 2:38:14
  Speaker 1: people who do come here, whether legally or illegally, many
• 2:38:18
  Speaker 1: of them come here, they start a business, you know,
• 2:38:21
  Speaker 1: they might become house painters or they might open a
• 2:38:24
  Speaker 1: Chinese restaurant and they work from morning till night and
• 2:38:27
  Speaker 1: they become very successful because they have a work ethic.
• 2:38:30
  Speaker 1: It's still happening today. here in this country. And you're saying,
• 2:38:35
  Speaker 1: if I got you correctly, a lot of that will
• 2:38:37
  Speaker 1: evaporate because of AI.
• 2:38:41
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Honestly, how many of us can... do landscaping. How
• 2:38:46
  Speaker 2: many of us can be plumbers, electricians? Listen, I can't
• 2:38:48
  Speaker 2: even change my oil right. There's guys like me that
• 2:38:52
  Speaker 2: you want to know about.
• 2:38:52
  Speaker 1: Finance and medicine, I'm your guy. But wait a second.
• 2:38:56
  Speaker 1: It still takes people to... If you have people that
• 2:38:59
  Speaker 1: can't afford to say, I want to redo my bathroom
• 2:39:03
  Speaker 1: because they don't have the money because they don't have
• 2:39:05
  Speaker 1: a job. Now that guy who thinks he's got job
• 2:39:08
  Speaker 1: security being a plumber doesn't have job security anymore. You
• 2:39:12
  Speaker 1: have said over the years... Now, we're talking with John Arnold.
• 2:39:15
  Speaker 1: We're a consumer-driven economy. Well, it's a circle. If you
• 2:39:19
  Speaker 1: don't have consumers that have disposable income to hire the
• 2:39:22
  Speaker 1: plumber or electrician, you make do with what you have, right?
• 2:39:27
  Speaker 2: Yes. That's why China has never called our debt, because
• 2:39:30
  Speaker 2: of our tax system. We have the best commerce in
• 2:39:33
  Speaker 2: the entire world. They're counting on us to buy their junk.
• 2:39:36
  Speaker 2: And guess what happens when we can't buy their junk anymore?
• 2:39:39
  Speaker 2: All hell breaks loose. So there's a deeper thinking here.
• 2:39:43
  Speaker 2: There's a bigger chess move here. And what sucks about
• 2:39:47
  Speaker 2: our society is men aren't men anymore. They've lost their fight.
• 2:39:50
  Speaker 2: Men are not.
• 2:39:51
  Speaker 1: Fighting for their families. But you can't fight technology, can you?
• 2:39:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, where do you go?
• 2:39:58
  Speaker 2: I think you can if you had enough of us.
• 2:40:00
  Speaker 1: AI is out there. I thought you gave a great analysis.
• 2:40:04
  Speaker 1: You're competing against China and any of these other countries.
• 2:40:08
  Speaker 1: What do you do to prevent what is going to
• 2:40:11
  Speaker 1: happen based on what you're saying? How do you stop that?
• 2:40:15
  Speaker 2: I can right now tell you what I would do.
• 2:40:17
  Speaker 2: I would dedicate every ounce of our budget towards AI,
• 2:40:21
  Speaker 2: to war, and to self-defense, and to maybe higher-end technology
• 2:40:25
  Speaker 2: for computers with semiconductors and whatever, but I would not...
• 2:40:30
  Speaker 2: let any further implementation of technology like that flow into
• 2:40:34
  Speaker 2: our trades. When I say trades, I mean all trades.
• 2:40:37
  Speaker 2: I mean computers, secretarial, accounting.
• 2:40:43
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you something.
• 2:40:44
  Speaker 2: AI is going to put the average financial guy out
• 2:40:46
  Speaker 2: of business. It's going to put accounting out of business.
• 2:40:49
  Speaker 2: It's going to put lawyers out of business who don't
• 2:40:52
  Speaker 2: have creative specialty law. If you can go to AI
• 2:40:57
  Speaker 2: and do an estate plan for $ 300, 000, And for AI,
• 2:41:02
  Speaker 2: you're not going to pay so-and-so $ 2, 500 or $ 5, 000 unless
• 2:41:04
  Speaker 2: you're small-town America. It just doesn't work like that. That
• 2:41:08
  Speaker 2: stuff is coming to an end. We need to halt
• 2:41:10
  Speaker 2: that right now. We need to say enough is enough.
• 2:41:14
  Speaker 3: But guess what?
• 2:41:14
  Speaker 2: When I'm talking about men, I'm saying men and women,
• 2:41:16
  Speaker 2: we don't have that fight. We're more worried about the
• 2:41:18
  Speaker 2: Dan Browns game and going out to BW3s for a
• 2:41:20
  Speaker 2: couple beers and joining a soccer game. None of that's
• 2:41:24
  Speaker 2: going to matter unless this comes to an end. I'm
• 2:41:26
  Speaker 2: talking real talk here. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, Scott.
• 2:41:31
  Speaker 1: Right, and you're talking in a relatively short period of time, correct?
• 2:41:35
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes.
• 2:41:38
  Speaker 1: They're saying, listen, I'm online right now.
• 2:41:40
  Speaker 2: I don't know who these people are. The surveys show
• 2:41:42
  Speaker 2: that 40% to 52% of all global U.S. workers fear
• 2:41:46
  Speaker 2: AI job loss, nearly double from 2024 in polls. So
• 2:41:51
  Speaker 2: just in two years, one and a half years, actually, 50%
• 2:41:55
  Speaker 2: of the global, not just U.S. global workers, fear AI replacement.
• 2:41:59
  Speaker 2: I want you to think about that. The BCG estimates
• 2:42:03
  Speaker 2: 50 to 55 percent of U.S. jobs will be augmented
• 2:42:06
  Speaker 2: or reshaped by AI in the next two to three years.
• 2:42:08
  Speaker 2: That's 2028.
• 2:42:09
  Speaker 3: I want you to know that's when Trump's term is up.
• 2:42:11
  Speaker 2: That's how fast things are changing.
• 2:42:14
  Speaker 1: Listen to the number that you just gave, though. That's
• 2:42:17
  Speaker 1: a huge number.
• 2:42:19
  Speaker 11: Yep.
• 2:42:20
  Speaker 2: Not everybody can be a nurse. Not everybody can mow lawns.
• 2:42:23
  Speaker 2: Not everybody can fix light sockets. There's half of us
• 2:42:27
  Speaker 2: that need help. a technical job that requires us to
• 2:42:32
  Speaker 2: not have to compete the AI. I'm telling you, my man,
• 2:42:35
  Speaker 2: this is a real deal. When, when Rich said, why
• 2:42:37
  Speaker 2: are you not enjoying your money? This is why I'm
• 2:42:39
  Speaker 2: not enjoying my money. I'll work over something deeper. I
• 2:42:42
  Speaker 2: see it is on the wall. I am not worried
• 2:42:45
  Speaker 2: about the Dan.
• 2:42:45
  Speaker 3: Buckeyes game anymore or the Browns.
• 2:42:48
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm worried about?
• 2:42:48
  Speaker 2: My kids surviving and you are worried about.
• 2:42:51
  Speaker 3: Not being a government puppet.
• 2:42:54
  Speaker 1: And just if it goes to direction that it's heading
• 2:42:58
  Speaker 1: right now, then you're saying to me, John Arnold here tonight,
• 2:43:03
  Speaker 1: Money Talks, you're saying if AI continues to go in
• 2:43:06
  Speaker 1: a direction it's going, significant job loss, how will these
• 2:43:10
  Speaker 1: people make a living? How will they pay their bills?
• 2:43:14
  Speaker 1: Then you start talking about people on the dole or
• 2:43:16
  Speaker 1: basic income because the jobs are evaporated.
• 2:43:20
  Speaker 4: Is that? Accurate.
• 2:43:21
  Speaker 1: It's going to be a necessity.
• 2:43:23
  Speaker 2: Right in front of your very eyes, everybody. They introduced
• 2:43:27
  Speaker 2: this damn digital coin. Do you think that was by coincidence?
• 2:43:31
  Speaker 2: If you had introduced a digital coin when computers first
• 2:43:34
  Speaker 2: came out in 1995 where they were actually relevant, people
• 2:43:37
  Speaker 2: would have laughed at you. They'd be like, yeah, yeah, well,
• 2:43:40
  Speaker 2: what's it worth? Nothing. It's just a scam. Now people
• 2:43:42
  Speaker 2: are like, well, maybe we'll use Bitcoin to pay our taxes.
• 2:43:45
  Speaker 2: It's insanity. But what they don't.
• 2:43:46
  Speaker 3: Really understand is that is a feeder system for socialism.
• 2:43:51
  Speaker 2: Algorithms are a feeder for socialism. When you displace cash
• 2:43:57
  Speaker 2: for bits or whatever they're going to give you, and
• 2:44:00
  Speaker 2: they give you a condo and public transportation, and they
• 2:44:05
  Speaker 2: control your health care and your gas like they did
• 2:44:08
  Speaker 2: in Canada. Guys, pay attention here. During COVID, when the
• 2:44:12
  Speaker 2: truckers refused to bow down for the COVID shot, they
• 2:44:15
  Speaker 2: shut their gas off. They shut their paychecks off. You
• 2:44:19
  Speaker 2: don't think that this is common with AI and socialism?
• 2:44:21
  Speaker 2: And I'm not a nutcase. I'm not a conspiracy nutcase.
• 2:44:24
  Speaker 2: It's right in front of your eyes. That's what's going
• 2:44:27
  Speaker 2: on with the globalization of our world. And no one's
• 2:44:31
  Speaker 2: doing a damn thing about it. No one.
• 2:44:33
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 2:44:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just unbelievable. It's unreal that that's where
• 2:44:38
  Speaker 1: it's heading. And when you're talking this way, for those
• 2:44:41
  Speaker 1: folks who are listening, because I got a lot of
• 2:44:43
  Speaker 1: feedback on that that one time, I just want to emphasize,
• 2:44:46
  Speaker 1: you're not talking in 10 years. You're talking next year.
• 2:44:50
  Speaker 3: I'm talking now.
• 2:44:51
  Speaker 4: No, no, no.
• 2:44:52
  Speaker 2: I'm talking now.
• 2:44:53
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:44:53
  Speaker 2: I'm talking now. As we speak, it's happening.
• 2:44:58
  Speaker 1: And, you know, you're talking.
• 2:45:01
  Speaker 2: Listen to what Elon Musk is saying.
• 2:45:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 2:45:03
  Speaker 1: And here's what I'm thinking as you're talking. You know,
• 2:45:06
  Speaker 1: like take Social Security. It takes existing workers that are
• 2:45:10
  Speaker 1: paying into the system to keep it going and keep
• 2:45:12
  Speaker 1: it afloat. You follow me? I mean, you understand.
• 2:45:15
  Speaker 2: Exactly, yes.
• 2:45:17
  Speaker 1: Now you've eliminated a lot of those workers that don't
• 2:45:21
  Speaker 1: exist that aren't paying in. How does that system stay afloat?
• 2:45:24
  Speaker 1: How does Medicare for our elderly stay afloat if it's
• 2:45:30
  Speaker 1: paid for by taxes of existing workers The money I
• 2:45:34
  Speaker 1: paid into Social Security went out to people that were
• 2:45:36
  Speaker 1: retired at that time. Well, if there aren't people, if
• 2:45:39
  Speaker 1: I don't turn around and look behind me and there
• 2:45:40
  Speaker 1: aren't enough workers there, what happens to the entire system?
• 2:45:46
  Speaker 2: You said it. You said it. That's why, like... I
• 2:45:50
  Speaker 2: grew up under a union, so my dad's job was
• 2:45:52
  Speaker 2: protected by UAW. The unions do some negative, yes, they do,
• 2:45:56
  Speaker 2: but they're good always or bad. So why I'm telling
• 2:45:58
  Speaker 2: you this, if I was a union guy, I was
• 2:46:00
  Speaker 2: the head of the union, I.
• 2:46:01
  Speaker 3: Would be all over this.
• 2:46:02
  Speaker 2: Who's going to employ us when the jobs are gone?
• 2:46:05
  Speaker 2: Who's going to employ us? Are there electricians?
• 2:46:08
  Speaker 3: Are there plumbers?
• 2:46:09
  Speaker 2: Maybe, but there's only so many of you to go around.
• 2:46:12
  Speaker 2: The happy days are coming to an end.
• 2:46:14
  Speaker 1: If you get an abundance of people all into trades,
• 2:46:17
  Speaker 1: guess what happens to the money that they make? I mean,
• 2:46:20
  Speaker 1: supply and demand. They cannibalize each other.
• 2:46:21
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 2:46:22
  Speaker 1: Exactly right. And if there's not enough customers to purchase
• 2:46:26
  Speaker 1: those services that have decent jobs, that says everything you
• 2:46:31
  Speaker 1: need to know. I mean, really, this is really eye-opening.
• 2:46:34
  Speaker 1: With all due respect, it's something I have to address
• 2:46:37
  Speaker 1: on a regular program as well. Because, I mean, the
• 2:46:40
  Speaker 1: numbers that you gave just tonight, did I hear them right?
• 2:46:43
  Speaker 1: 90,000 jobs here, 120,000 in this sector. I mean, roughly
• 2:46:48
  Speaker 1: 200,000 jobs in that ballpark. Gone.
• 2:46:52
  Speaker 2: Hey, 120,000 to 150,000 year-to-date.
• 2:46:55
  Speaker 11: Gone.
• 2:46:56
  Speaker 2: We're only halfway through the year. Meta, Amazon, Cisco, Intuit, Block.
• 2:47:00
  Speaker 2: That came from liberal CNBC. Okay. So that's not like it's,
• 2:47:05
  Speaker 2: that's not like scary town US and I'm giving you
• 2:47:07
  Speaker 2: literally trading economics.com stuff.
• 2:47:11
  Speaker 1: I'm not giving you BS data. So when Elon Musk
• 2:47:14
  Speaker 1: was early on, you were right there beside him saying,
• 2:47:18
  Speaker 1: listen to him. He's basically saying, we better think this
• 2:47:22
  Speaker 1: through because it can be both a bad thing as
• 2:47:26
  Speaker 1: far as government control, government surveillance, and what are we
• 2:47:29
  Speaker 1: going to do with all these people?
• 2:47:30
  Speaker 2: I'll do you one better, Ron, because I always give
• 2:47:34
  Speaker 2: you the hardcore truth, even if it makes you look foolish.
• 2:47:38
  Speaker 2: I really didn't even know about it. I just knew, like, oh,
• 2:47:40
  Speaker 2: this is the future. This is like four years ago.
• 2:47:42
  Speaker 2: This is the future, you know, what's coming. Maybe robots
• 2:47:47
  Speaker 2: will replace us. Maybe when I'm dead and hopefully my
• 2:47:49
  Speaker 2: kids will figure it out. Elon Musk came up on
• 2:47:53
  Speaker 2: an interview, and he started talking about them. And I
• 2:47:55
  Speaker 2: really started, because, again, I'm an Elon Musk guy. I
• 2:47:58
  Speaker 2: really started to pay attention to what.
• 2:47:59
  Speaker 3: This guy was saying.
• 2:48:00
  Speaker 2: When he's saying, I'm literally scared. He's saying physically, I'm scared.
• 2:48:05
  Speaker 2: I'm watching it come out of his mouth. We have
• 2:48:07
  Speaker 2: to stop this thing in its tracks. It's probably the
• 2:48:09
  Speaker 2: smartest human being that I've ever known of saying this,
• 2:48:13
  Speaker 2: who has nothing to gain by saying it. As a
• 2:48:15
  Speaker 2: matter of fact, he has things to lose. Half his
• 2:48:19
  Speaker 2: stuff is from AI and robotic technology. He's the guy
• 2:48:23
  Speaker 2: that shouldn't be saying that stuff.
• 2:48:25
  Speaker 3: He's saying it.
• 2:48:26
  Speaker 2: And it really woke me up, and I started doing
• 2:48:28
  Speaker 2: my own research. And as I'm researching, as I'm watching it,
• 2:48:32
  Speaker 2: I'm really watching every month more and more and more.
• 2:48:35
  Speaker 2: More jobs get lost. More jobs get lost. And this
• 2:48:39
  Speaker 2: AI thing, what's happening is what really woke me up
• 2:48:41
  Speaker 2: when Grok, G-R-O-K, made a better Grok on its own
• 2:48:47
  Speaker 2: without Google telling it to do. So that's the AI
• 2:48:50
  Speaker 2: version of chat GPT for Google. Google has its own
• 2:48:56
  Speaker 2: AI search engine, and it thinks 100 times faster than
• 2:49:02
  Speaker 2: you do as a human. So when it's self-creating a
• 2:49:05
  Speaker 2: better version of itself, what.
• 2:49:07
  Speaker 1: Does that tell you?
• 2:49:08
  Speaker 2: That is unbelievably scary. Again, I hate using that word.
• 2:49:12
  Speaker 2: And that's the stuff that keeps me up at night.
• 2:49:14
  Speaker 2: What are we doing to stop this in its tracks?
• 2:49:17
  Speaker 2: Because no one has the balls. or the brains, I think,
• 2:49:20
  Speaker 2: to do it. And it has to come from our politicians.
• 2:49:24
  Speaker 2: Our idea, I don't care. You've got to stop this
• 2:49:27
  Speaker 2: thing and its tracks before it ruins the American economy.
• 2:49:30
  Speaker 1: Do you see any signs of that even happening?
• 2:49:34
  Speaker 2: Just the opposite.
• 2:49:35
  Speaker 18: Yeah.
• 2:49:36
  Speaker 2: I think that people are kicking it down the road
• 2:49:37
  Speaker 2: and finding better creative ways to make money off it
• 2:49:40
  Speaker 2: right now. And create businesses off it. There's actually a school,
• 2:49:43
  Speaker 2: like literally, you can go to a curriculum at a
• 2:49:46
  Speaker 2: school and learn how to be an AI scientist of
• 2:49:49
  Speaker 2: some kind and have all seven.
• 2:49:51
  Speaker 3: Or eight of them work against each other to give
• 2:49:53
  Speaker 3: you the best project.
• 2:49:55
  Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, they're eventually going
• 2:49:57
  Speaker 2: to be so good that they replace the person inputting
• 2:49:59
  Speaker 2: the data. And that's the scary part.
• 2:50:02
  Speaker 1: We're talking with John Arnold Money Talks. Before I run
• 2:50:04
  Speaker 1: out of time, talk about the hedge fund, please. So
• 2:50:08
  Speaker 1: people understand it who are hearing it for the first time.
• 2:50:10
  Speaker 1: John Arnold has his own hedge fund. His own hedge fund.
• 2:50:15
  Speaker 1: It can max out at 100 participants in his own
• 2:50:20
  Speaker 1: hedge fund and pick it up from there.
• 2:50:25
  Speaker 2: Well, right now, I think I have like two or
• 2:50:27
  Speaker 2: three more subscriptions to fulfill. I can get back to
• 2:50:31
  Speaker 2: taking subscribers now. I had to slow it down. I
• 2:50:34
  Speaker 2: used to have a big staff. It's just me and
• 2:50:37
  Speaker 2: another person taking in all these applications. And so I'm
• 2:50:41
  Speaker 2: going to get back to it. So if you're interested,
• 2:50:44
  Speaker 2: if you're an accredited investor and you can afford to
• 2:50:48
  Speaker 2: put money into my hedge fund, you will be a
• 2:50:50
  Speaker 2: fool not to. It's that good. The accreditation is a
• 2:50:55
  Speaker 2: million dollars in assets outside your residence, or $ 200, 000 a
• 2:50:58
  Speaker 2: year in income, or you and your wife jointly, $ 300, 000 total,
• 2:51:03
  Speaker 2: or the ability to put $ 200, 000 in at once. If
• 2:51:05
  Speaker 2: you have.
• 2:51:06
  Speaker 3: $ 200, 000.
• 2:51:07
  Speaker 2: And it's money that you can risk and you believe
• 2:51:11
  Speaker 2: in my skills, put money in my hedge fund because
• 2:51:14
  Speaker 2: the subscriptions are running out and that's that. We're beating
• 2:51:18
  Speaker 2: the market already. I have history of beating the market
• 2:51:21
  Speaker 2: with our managers. And here's the thing. People keep saying, well,
• 2:51:24
  Speaker 2: it's a ton of risk.
• 2:51:25
  Speaker 3: It's not a ton of risk.
• 2:51:27
  Speaker 2: It's risk. If you don't, if you, if you don't
• 2:51:29
  Speaker 2: believe in the stock market, you don't believe in the manager.
• 2:51:31
  Speaker 2: There are hedge funds out there to do private equity.
• 2:51:34
  Speaker 2: There are funds out there to do extreme risk. I'm
• 2:51:37
  Speaker 2: just doing what I always used to do, except I'm
• 2:51:38
  Speaker 2: managing it on a daily basis. I'm using the same
• 2:51:41
  Speaker 2: exact things I used to do, except I'm managing it
• 2:51:43
  Speaker 2: throughout the day, taking the gains when I can, putting
• 2:51:47
  Speaker 2: stopovers when I need to, and just moving on. I'm just,
• 2:51:51
  Speaker 2: constantly managing it, and it's kicking out great returns right now.
• 2:51:55
  Speaker 1: So that's it. All right. Now, with that in mind,
• 2:51:59
  Speaker 1: of course, you have assistance. You have some help in
• 2:52:02
  Speaker 1: addition to you. Just talk briefly about the three other
• 2:52:05
  Speaker 1: people that are involved. One guy is your compliance guy.
• 2:52:08
  Speaker 1: The other two guys also assist with the selection of
• 2:52:11
  Speaker 1: the investments.
• 2:52:14
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 2:52:14
  Speaker 2: Gabe is my operations guy who's on vacation this week. Um,
• 2:52:18
  Speaker 2: Edward Scott, who's the, uh, he's a, he's a CTO
• 2:52:22
  Speaker 2: chief technology officer. He's the guy that doing the website and,
• 2:52:25
  Speaker 2: and you know, the technical technology operations and there's the superstar.
• 2:52:30
  Speaker 2: He's the guy helping me manage the money with Steve
• 2:52:32
  Speaker 2: and Steve is like, he's the kind of guy you
• 2:52:35
  Speaker 2: see on a TV show, but he's the real thing. He's, he's,
• 2:52:38
  Speaker 2: he's way smarter than me and he's better at it
• 2:52:40
  Speaker 2: than what I do. And I'm pretty good. So it's that,
• 2:52:42
  Speaker 2: that team and they're doing.
• 2:52:43
  Speaker 3: Great for us.
• 2:52:44
  Speaker 1: And you guys work jointly on it. And if you're
• 2:52:48
  Speaker 1: interested in the hedge fund, as you said, if you
• 2:52:50
  Speaker 1: have $ 100, 000, $ 200, 000 that you can put in and or
• 2:52:54
  Speaker 1: you have that meet the other criteria, there's criteria to
• 2:52:59
  Speaker 1: get into the hedge fund.
• 2:53:00
  Speaker 2: It's one of.
• 2:53:01
  Speaker 1: One of three.
• 2:53:02
  Speaker 3: You don't have to know which one of, yep.
• 2:53:04
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 2:53:04
  Speaker 1: So one of the three. If you're interested in exploring
• 2:53:08
  Speaker 1: that more, this is John Arnold's hedge funds that he
• 2:53:13
  Speaker 1: has started. It officially started June 1st. If you're interested
• 2:53:17
  Speaker 1: in getting into it, you have to get in during
• 2:53:21
  Speaker 1: an open period during June for the start of you'd
• 2:53:25
  Speaker 1: be in it in July. In other words, it always
• 2:53:28
  Speaker 1: starts on the first of the month. That's correct.
• 2:53:30
  Speaker 2: People are already in it.
• 2:53:30
  Speaker 3: They're in it.
• 2:53:31
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 2:53:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And when each month comes to an end, like
• 2:53:35
  Speaker 1: when we get everything at the end of June and
• 2:53:39
  Speaker 1: the auditors go over it all, you can say, here's
• 2:53:43
  Speaker 1: what we did and here's what our returns were. So
• 2:53:46
  Speaker 1: people can hear it firsthand where you've gone with your
• 2:53:49
  Speaker 1: hedge fund managed on an hourly and daily basis on
• 2:53:54
  Speaker 1: buying and selling hedge. those of you that are familiar
• 2:53:57
  Speaker 1: with hedge funds, John Arnold's hedge fund. Now, how do people,
• 2:54:02
  Speaker 1: and go slow for us, get information about this or
• 2:54:05
  Speaker 1: contact you about this?
• 2:54:09
  Speaker 2: They can call us at 330-288-7709, or you can email
• 2:54:11
  Speaker 2: me at jon.arnold at theinvestment.coach. Again, J-O-N period Arnold at theinvestment.coach.
• 2:54:28
  Speaker 2: Phone number 330-288-7709.
• 2:54:31
  Speaker 1: All right, so that's the website. That's the phone number
• 2:54:38
  Speaker 1: to give John a call if you would like to.
• 2:54:40
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the email, yeah.
• 2:54:41
  Speaker 1: The email, excuse me, and the phone number to get
• 2:54:43
  Speaker 1: a hold of John to get involved in his hedge fund.
• 2:54:47
  Speaker 1: Once there's 100 people in it, then that... It is
• 2:54:50
  Speaker 1: closed down at that point. You cannot take any more
• 2:54:53
  Speaker 1: than 100 people in the hedge fund. John, I appreciate
• 2:54:57
  Speaker 1: your time as always. First, I appreciate your insight into
• 2:55:00
  Speaker 1: what's going on economically and what's going on in the market.
• 2:55:03
  Speaker 1: These are very interesting times as far as anyone knows.
• 2:55:08
  Speaker 1: So we look forward to talking to you again about that.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate the great insight on AI. I've got to
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  Speaker 1: talk about that more on my program and what you
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  Speaker 1: had to say there. And, of course, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: Sure. 330-288-7709. No pressure. Give us a call.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, John. Appreciate it. Thank you. John Arnold's Money Talks, Thursdays,
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  Speaker 13: From ABC News, I'm Michelle Franzen. A potential deal to
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  Speaker 13: end the war with Iran taking shape. President Trump says
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  Speaker 13: there's a conceptual agreement and it could be signed as
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  Speaker 13: soon as this weekend. ABC's Louis Martinez says it comes
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  Speaker 13: after President Trump vowed to carry out new strikes against
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  Speaker 13: Iranian targets tonight, now called off.
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  Speaker 24: When you have the president again saying that there would
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  Speaker 24: be more strikes today and then he cancels them, then yes,
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  Speaker 24: you have to see this as a de-escalation because this
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  Speaker 24: was something that was in the U.S. was in control,
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  Speaker 24: not Iran. Previously, the United States had been responding to
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  Speaker 24: Iranian attacks and then it went back and forth, back
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  Speaker 24: and forth on the same day. But what you saw
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  Speaker 24: yesterday was the United States really launching the offensive here
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  Speaker 24: to try to get Iran towards a negotiating table for
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  Speaker 24: an agreement.
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  Speaker 13: On the heels of an inflation report showing consumer prices
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  Speaker 13: surged 4% last month compared to a year ago, highs
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  Speaker 13: not seen in three years due to the Iran war.
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  Speaker 13: The producer price index today showing it jumped 6.5% in
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  Speaker 13: May from the previous year.
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  Speaker 26: The number suggests that inflationary pressures faced by consumers are
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  Speaker 26: beginning to percolate up through the supply chain. Analysts say that,
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  Speaker 26: as with the Consumer Price Index, surging fuel and food
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  Speaker 26: prices are behind the increase in the PPI.
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  Speaker 13: ABC's Jim Ryan has Matt Teams at the Pentagon today,
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  Speaker 13: earlier after sensors triggered an air quality incident in sections
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  Speaker 13: of the high security facility. Some workers told to shelter
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  Speaker 13: in place. Tests, though, showed it was a false alarm.
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  Speaker 13: Mexico beat South America today in the first match of
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  Speaker 13: the FIFA World Cup. Next match, Los Angeles, tomorrow night.
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  Speaker 13: ABC's Christian Cordero is there.
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  Speaker 11: LA's a host city.
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  Speaker 27: It's hosting tomorrow. But the crowds are out today in
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  Speaker 27: large part to support Team Mexico. We know there's a
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  Speaker 27: huge Mexican-American population here in LA. But tomorrow, all eyes
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  Speaker 27: will turn to the match between the U.S. and Team
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  Speaker 27: Paraguay as they kick things off here in the U.S.
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  Speaker 27: at what is expected to be an exciting tournament from
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  Speaker 13: Van Bolter, the man charged in the attacks against Democratic
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  Speaker 13: lawmakers in Minnesota last June, changed his plea today to
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  Speaker 13: killed Minnesota State Representative Melissa Hortman and also attempted to
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  Speaker 13: kill Senator John Hoffman and his wife, Yvette.
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  Speaker 2: U.S.
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  Speaker 13: Attorney for the District of Minnesota, Daniel Rosen, discussed their
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  Speaker 13: decision on the change of plea agreement.
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  Speaker 29: When you have a defendant that is prepared to plead guilty,
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  Speaker 29: take consecutive life terms, plus... to ensure that he never
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  Speaker 13: Bolter still faces state charges in the killings. In Northern Ireland,
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  Speaker 13: crowds of young men clashing with police in Belfast. Those
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  Speaker 13: violent protests erupted in the wake of an immigrant from
• 2:59:43
  Speaker 13: Sudan charged with the brutal knife attack on a man.
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  Speaker 13: ABC's James Longman has details.
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  Speaker 25: Police say protesters have been trying to reach a hotel
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  Speaker 25: they believe was housing immigrants and disturbingly earlier this week
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  Speaker 25: some went door to door in a local street looking
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  Speaker 25: for foreigners and torching homes. Now, the family of the
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  Speaker 25: man who lost his left eye in that attack have
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  Speaker 25: appealed for calm, and they say that while they're completely
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  Speaker 25: devastated by what's happened to him, they reject violence as
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  Speaker 25: the response.
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  Speaker 13: Last night's celebrations in New York City following the New
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  Speaker 13: York Knicks' record comeback win against the San Antonio Spurs
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  Speaker 13: led to police arresting more than 50 people outside Madison
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  Speaker 13: I'm Michelle Franzen, ABC News.
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