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Know the Enemy: Florida State · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  Defense 12th in the country in total defense.
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  Fewer than 300 yards allowed per game.
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  Drones takes a deep shot looking for Take One Belton.
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  For a touchdown. 54 yards. This one's not contested because
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  he just uses his speed, just runs a straight goal out, and
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  then it is a beautiful ball by Kyron.
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  Drones couldn't hand it to him any better, and Virginia Tech is
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  off to a good start. And welcome back to Deep
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  Boundary Corner Podcast with my partners, Brian Sigler.
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  Jonathan, Tally and Shelton Malls, I'm Curtis Wilson.
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  In this episode is brought to you by Doctor Jeremy Counts down
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  at the Main Street Pharmacy in Blacksburg.
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  Your friendly neighborhood pharmacy located at 301 S Main
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  St. in it right here at the top. We we had a show that because we
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  ain't had much to curl about in the first quarter of many games
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  this year. But first possession, what third
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  play of the game, a bomb happens.
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  Didn't see that one coming up. Top.
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  I will take it. All day long.
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  We we hadn't seen a lot of deep stuff in a in a few games there,
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  so it's nice to see us hit that big one, really get off to a
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  good start, put their backs against the wall a little bit.
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  It always likes to do that at home when you got the crowd
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  behind you. Well, after after taking them
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  three and out and doing that, it was just like that the the
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  crowd, which was already just absolutely insane on the
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  whiteout Saturday night. Just took it to another level.
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  The place was never quiet so we got a lot to talk about on a
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  3821. It is a tell the truth Tuesday.
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  We're going to tell a lot of good truths tonight.
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  Not a lot of the and some bads but mostly good.
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  But you know want to tell real quick rally to Robbie this week
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  not at home. Check out the pharmacy. 7 bucks
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  at Venmo got with Grayson. They will be back in a Lot 1
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  next week for the Homecoming Wake Forest game.
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  So check that out. And before we get into the big
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  stuff, let's talk about the commit.
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  Did y'all see the basketball commit yesterday?
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  It. Was a pretty big one.
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  Big time. Big time.
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  So Shelton, I don't know how much you got on him, but it's
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  Ryan Jones, A6 foot eight center, 225 out of Gainesville,
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  FL. He is a composite 97.
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  He is a high four-star. He is a top 70 player in the
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  country. I think I read correct me if I'm
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  wrong, Shelton, the fourth highest rated player of all time
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  that has come to Tech. That is correct fourth highest
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  rated player of all time and six foot eight.
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  You could play them at power for you, play them at center
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  obviously pretty versatile and kind of fits the the Mike Young
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  bolt of a big man. So it's a bit, it's a big time
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  pickup for sure. Definitely big time pick up.
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  And then looking at the offer list here, I mean he wasn't
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  short. He had a lot of interest from a
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  lot of different schools. Effectively the Hokies beat out
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  the Gators down there, which you know goes our way this time for
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  once about a kid wanting to get away from home right in
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  basketball. So it's a good thing for
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  basketball, but I wanted to hit that real quick because we are
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  etching every day of the season. If none of y'all follow, what's
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  his name? John.
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  John Rothstein Every morning I wake up at fools counting down
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  the clock to basketball season's almost here and that's something
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  we'll be taking a look at in the Next up this upcoming month
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  taking some basketball stuff. One other news and note guys, if
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  you didn't see this, Evan Watkins over 247 put this out
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  and I know they were close. Aiden Green, Braylon Johnson,
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  Dante Lovett, Moose Phillips. And Caleb Woodson, the Red
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  Church are gone. They got a choice.
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  No choice. Man got to.
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  You got to and and also The thing is with those guys and
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  they're playing good roles like Green's got a couple catches to
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  be a freshman. Johnson, Lovett.
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  Lovett's playing I think every special team snap.
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  So any any, any feelings on this or you know, Tally said it had
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  to have Brian. Any feelings on this?
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  I mean, the big thing for me was talking about green.
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  You know, we are. We talked about the beginning of
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  the season. He was going to be that kind of
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  5-6 roll in the wide receiver room and we're seeing Green kind
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  of etch that that roll out for himself there.
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  The others are just we needed the depth and that's where they
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  are. And I mean some of them would
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  play well in its spots. I'd say especially Phillips is
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  coming along and you know, Woodson's out there getting a
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  lot of run and obviously Johnson and Lovett have been kind of
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  filling in at cornerback when we need him in there and
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  occasionally jumping back to. To safety when we got thin
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  there. So I mean it's just been
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  necessity on the defensive side, but good to see a guy like Green
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  kind of take that that jump into the that five and six roll in
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  the wide receiver room. Shown any thoughts on any of
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  these guys you know? Is there one maybe of the bunch
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  you've noticed with data statistics to say wish we could
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  have held it, not burning him? No.
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  I mean, I think it's just it's kind of hard to judge with young
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  guys because you don't, first of all, you don't have the sample
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  size, really to make an accurate judgment.
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  You just don't know how they're gonna, how they're gonna project
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  in the future. So I tend to trust coaches with
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  red shirt decisions, You know, it's not, it's not my place.
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  They assume every day in practice.
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  So, you know, it's whatever they decide I'm cool with.
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  Yeah, yeah, we are not the full TSL.
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  Chris Coleman, red shirt, everybody.
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  Because in some situations, you know they're going to be County
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  Jenkins as a senior you had to get Woodson or whoever won that
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  between Woodson and I cannot think of the other kids name
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  from down in Petersburg Cottman. You know they were one of the
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  women get a ton of run this year.
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  You just knew it was going to happen just because it had to
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  happen. And then with the depth at
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  cornerback, we said it, you know, six weeks ago, like these
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  guys are going to get run like they're probably not going to be
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  a red shirt for them. And then they played pretty
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  good, so. You know they're gone.
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  I don't know who's the next one to be gone, but there probably
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  is going to be a few more burn before the end of the season.
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  So we shall see. All right, well, let's get to
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  it. Let's tell the truth Tuesday
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  again. 3821 win for the Hokies against the Pitt Panthers.
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  The Pitt Panthers that came in with the 12th ranked defense in
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  the country. Total defense in the country,
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  which was kind of, you know, St. They gave up.
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  They gave up less yards to UNC than they did us.
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  I don't know. That's crazy all.
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  Right, but what went well, I'm going to start this off because
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  watching Lane Stadium Saturday night, she was mean.
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  She was loud. It was intimidating.
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  They had multiple false starts. You could tell that stadium was
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  in the head. And it did not quiet the entire
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  game, even after big plays kept being loud, kept disturbing
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  them. And it's like that.
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  It's that throwback, right? Like we always see it loud, but
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  that's Saturday night she was she's nasty.
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  It was loud, very loud you know seen it on the on the shots it
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  looked like, I like the white out looked better than I've seen
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  it look anytime we've had the white out.
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  So kudos to the fans for for really leaning into that and
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  getting that to to look pretty incredible out there.
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  But yeah, I mean, I thought the. The atmosphere was great.
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  We looked at at what they were able to do in the field of the
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  commitment to the running game, getting drones in the running
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  game, but just leaning on the running game.
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  We saw them kind of get a little bit of momentum last week, went
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  away from it, came back late, hit it early and often.
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  This week we're able to sprinkle some big plays in there that we
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  hadn't seen before. So I think, you know, looking at
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  that, those are two big things that I didn't expect against
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  this pit defense. Me either.
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  Tally. Tally, I had a quick question
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  for you. You know how many times we ran
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  the ball Saturday night? Man, I don't know.
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  Probably what, 65? Close 5959 at 3.4 carry.
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  And you'd have told if you'd have told any of us that we do
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  that against any defense that we're playing, especially
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  probably that first game, especially Pitt, we had said
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  you'd lying. You know he's just.
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  Basshell Tootin is is just, he's a man.
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  He was, he was tired man. You can tell he was sucking win.
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  He was punishing people after runs but he continued to do it.
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  He go on the sideline, he get him a little water, he get back
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  in like it was. It was good to see, you know it
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  takes us to the next point where Tyler Bowen caught a pretty good
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  game, man. Like his play designs.
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  The play calls were actually pretty spot on.
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  You know, all of us watching the game, a lot of times you're
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  like, why are we running up the middle so much?
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  Why are we doing this so much? I mean he he got people on the
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  outside. He moved the pocket for drones,
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  You know, he called the right quarterback draws at the right
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  time. Like it was just the play
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  designs man. He he did kudos to him.
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  I think he was a ACC coordinator of the of the wheat.
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  I was well deserved, man, because, I mean going into that
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  game, you know, the ACC Network is there.
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  Everybody loves Lane Stadium, everybody loves the atmosphere.
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  But I can say nobody expected what they seen on that field
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  Saturday night. I know I didn't.
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  I don't think any of the commentators did.
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  I don't think any of y'all did what you say, Curtis.
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  We definitely didn't. None of us did.
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  I mean, we were effectively. It was one of those nobody in
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  this room. Nor our guest last week picked
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  the Oakies to win. We all had it close.
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  We all had it close. But.
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  No, you got to go back. Mike did.
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  Remember Mike, Daniel did. He said.
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  He said this is going to be the week that we're going to put it
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  all together and we're going to get picked.
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  And I said, ah, you're a liar. It ain't happening.
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  Mike did pick him to win, though.
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  All right, so shell, I'm going to throw this to you man,
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  because I think you got the data there.
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  If not, I know you can pull it up pretty quick.
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  How many explosive runs and passes did we have on Saturday
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  night? Because it seemed like we were
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  getting multiple 1/4. We did, yes.
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  I'm pulling up A1 SEC. Also, just to another note about
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  the number of plays you ran, part of the reason that we ran
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  so many times is because we had the ball so long.
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  I think we had, we had 78 plays for reference that the average
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  in a game is about 66. So we're plus 12 in the average.
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  And I think we had 32 more plays run than Pitt did.
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  Wow. So that kind of that kind of
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  speaks to like how? I'm actually dominant.
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  That is crazy. That is crazy.
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  So yeah, so in terms of explosive plays, actually we did
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  not have a huge amount. So I'm seeing 7% explosive play
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  rate which is about kind of around the 36 percentile.
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  And then if you divide it up in terms of run pass, he had four
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  big passing plays and then one big rushing play.
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  So it wasn't so much the explosive plays as it was the I
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  would say staying on schedule. Tech had a really good success,
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  right? Which I'm sure we can talk
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  about, but they just they they never got behind the sticks.
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  Yeah, no, we didn't money down conversions.
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  We were 10 to 18. That's over 50%.
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  You tell me. We're 10 of 18 every here game
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  from here to the end of the season.
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  I will. I will take it.
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  I don't care. I will take 10 of 18 every week
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  on 3rd and 4th downs. Because like you said, we
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  sustain drives. We sustain drives.
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  And I know in a little while here somebody's going to talk
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  about TOP. He's got the exact number.
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  But that was the impressive part you talk about.
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  You said 7%. Well, heck, when you go 7% of 70
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  plays, that's about 6 big plays and you're talking about one
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  right out the bat, which immediately they it took them a
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  it took them a while to start bringing that safety back down
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  into the box after they got burned once, they did not.
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  Effectively they like to play the guys up and it's like you
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  get burned once over the top because it was a if y'all.
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  Remember that play was a go post route.
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  The safety went with the post. They Quan beat his man over the
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  top. What are you supposed to do?
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  And the other thing, let's flip to the other side on defense
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  real quick. Two for 11 on money downs for
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  Pitt. Would you love to see?
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  411 what What would you see Brian, with that?
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  What? What was going on with the stops
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  that really made it successful on Saturday night?
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  Getting in Jerkovic's ass on on those third down plays.
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  His new name, His new name is Filthy Field.
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  That's what we're calling him on this show.
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  I don't know what Lane Stadium does to him, but Filthy Field
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  does not react good when he's in Lane Stadium.
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  Talk about we talked about Boeing getting a tight asshole
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  last week in that in that second and third quarter, every time
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  Phil Jakovic lined up in Lane Stadium, he's got a tight
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  asshole. It's like he forgets.
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  I mean, he hasn't had it now Great.
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  He has not had a great year playing quarterback in general,
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  but he was in hell for four quarters.
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  He was. He was.
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  And outside of two, outside of two plays, he did nothing.
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  He was so nervous. If you go watch on the play
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  where he pulled the ball, nobody was around him.
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  He was still scared, I think, the commentator said.
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  He didn't even realize nobody was around him.
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  He hesitated like go watch that play.
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  He just he didn't want to take off.
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  I don't know what I mean was but.
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  You know, I talked, I talked a little bit last week.
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  I was like, if Phil plays, I think he's still going to be a
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  little bit gun shy and he looked a little bit gun shy out there.
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  He looked a little bit gun. Shy.
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  And then he would talk his shit like, you know, like, what are
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  you doing, man? Look at the scoreboard.
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  Well, one thing I can say, you know even on that clip that you
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  that you showed at the beginning and it wasn't just the
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  quarterback, but the quarter. It helps when it's the
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  quarterback. Like I don't want Dick heads on
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  the. Well, I do want Dick heads on
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  the team. You know you don't want people
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  to do that the. Right kind of Dick head.
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  You don't want people to do stupid stuff off the field,
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  That's what I mean. But when?
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  When drones hit, that touchdown hit felt over the top.
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  You saw all the way down the field.
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  First of all, he hit the celebration, which is awesome.
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  This is football. Have fun.
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  He is passing people that he's going to have to hit all night.
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  Ryman, they're going to hit you all night.
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  He's talking, John. He goes up to the cornerback.
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  He's pointing at him. We got you.
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  You know, it just looks like he's saying you got you got your
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  eyes in the back field, we got you.
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  And I was thinking. This can go one or two ways
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  because a team like Pitt is very physical, mostly, you know, like
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  that's what we're they're known for.
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  But by the end of the game or middle of the game, they're
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  helping drones up. They're tapping them on the
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  helmet. He was punishing people after
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  runs. Like, it was crazy to see the
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  attitude that we took on, like, where's that be, You know what
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  I'm saying? Not just him Tooting, you know,
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  Felton. Everybody who was even the, even
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  the lineman who weren't fucking blocking good, had a a nasty
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  attitude. I'm all right with that.
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  Dragging people, you know, you got people getting in the pile.
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  When's the last time we pushed the pile?
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  I wait. What do I always say, Curtis?
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  If you go fuck up, fuck up full speed.
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  Man. Fuck up full speed and hit.
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  Somebody we're pushing the pile. We we after trying to make
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  something happen. Like, just that attitude man
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  was. Great to see, you know what I'm
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  saying? Because I've seen it on defense
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  a little bit, You know, I've seen some glimpses on defense.
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  But offense is like, what are we doing, man?
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  We're going in places, We're acting scared.
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  But Saturday night, man, it was, it was kudos to the fans.
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  I think Alex said he was there. Alex, I love you and fuck you
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  because the game I went to was a hurricane and we didn't get to
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  see lane hopping like it was when you, man.
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  I know it was awesome to see. Well yeah definitely also to see
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  and it and it and it made a lot of things talk.
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  I mean it made a lot of like you said that energy went through
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  because one thing we had mentioned was like let's get
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  pressure on Jacoby sacking 4 times he got hit more.
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  I mean it was all might they were in the face and the biggest
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  piece of that is somebody who I didn't get to hear the interview
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  today for Darius Payne's playing like a madman right now.
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  I mean his twitch and and coach probably mentioned it today.
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  How he comes off the ball when it's snapped, he shoots that.
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  I mean it. It takes me back to the days I'm
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  thinking here. I always remember John Graves
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  had a quick twitch like John Graves was a truly a defensive
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  man when he played down at Meadowbrook, right, Meadowbrook.
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  And then when he got up they put him at D tackle like Corey
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  Marshall. Same way the 285 pounds, but
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  they so quick and twitchy and we were destroying them all night.
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  All night, Brian, let's talk, let's talk about a few other
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  things. What have we been struggling
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  with that showed no signs that it was ever anything that bad?
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  When you get 38 rushing yards total on a on, let's see how
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  2224 carries. Say that again. 24 carries, 38
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  rushing yards. That's not good, man.
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  That's not good, but with, but with what we've struggled with
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  in the last few weeks, did it shock you?
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  It it, it was it definitely it it peaked my eyebrows up a
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  little bit. I was like, all right, that's
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  not expected, especially against this team because as much as
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  they've been struggling in the past game, I figured that we
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  would see them kind of lean on the run a little bit and they
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  weren't able to be able to get really anything going.
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  It's like, you know, we talked about it last week.
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  We talked about. We got to get Mike back on him
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  and let him have his roundabout run fits.
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  And you know Brian's talked about tackling like it did not
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  rears ugly head except for one play.
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  Well, which I'm sure we'll talk about one play we seen no wrap
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  up shot out of a cannon that gives the freaking running back
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  a boost to get to the end zone. But other than that it's like
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  the run fits were better. You know what I'm saying?
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  The. The tackling was 10 times
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  better. Anytime you hold A-Team to 38
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  yards and it's like you kind of feel like at one point it was
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  like we demoralized them, you know what I'm saying?
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  Like they fought for a little bit, but they were so deflated,
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  man. And then you got some people
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  say, well, such and such was hurt.
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  I don't give a fuck who was hurt.
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  They sent A-Team down here. They played.
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  I hate pit. Last year they had fucking 6
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  touchdowns and 320 yards rushing by one player.
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  I don't care if they had Forrest Gump before he got his braces
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  off running, the ball hit. Him and they did all night I
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  mean and again you mentioned the tackling.
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  I don't know if you've got anything on it Shell but I'll
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  I'll ask him talking to it. But it didn't seem like other
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  than the one plane we're going to talk about it in a second
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  here. I don't.
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  I didn't foresee any missed tackles like.
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  It was wrap up. It was get down.
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  It was wrap up. Stop.
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  Wait for the gang. You get there and then they go
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  down. It was gang tackling too, like
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  you said, gang tackling. You've seen so many maroon
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  jerseys flying to the ball, you know, besides just the first
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  guy. Unless the first guy got him
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  down. And then you had people coming,
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  like, you know, case in point, who was it that got the Jacobic?
• 21:02
  Kendricks got into COVID and it was so quick that he got to him
• 21:06
  and he thought he was down. But you had and you had to watch
• 21:09
  it in. Like I had to watch it a couple,
• 21:11
  Yeah. I had to watch it in a couple of
• 21:12
  times. He comes through and punches the
• 21:14
  ball out, you know, like and and recovers the fumble, like that's
• 21:20
  that's part of being around the ball.
• 21:21
  That's part of gang tackling. So love to see it, man.
• 21:25
  Yeah, and I'll say this, I mean, this is the first time I've
• 21:27
  really seen. Us have that kind of identity on
• 21:31
  both sides of the ball and in a game for four quarters.
• 21:34
  And I mean, I know it's easy to say you've got an identity when
• 21:37
  things are going well for you, but we haven't really seen a
• 21:40
  whole lot of that the last couple years.
• 21:42
  So it was good to see a game where you felt like we were
• 21:46
  playing to our strengths on both sides of the ball.
• 21:50
  All right, so Sheldon, give us the number.
• 21:52
  How many missed tackles Saturday night?
• 21:55
  So per PFF, we had six total miss tackles and our our overall
• 22:00
  tackle rate was around 83%. So it's pretty solid.
• 22:03
  I think the national average is probably around 20%.
• 22:07
  So we're definitely above above the average.
• 22:10
  Very nice and that's what we need to see.
• 22:12
  It's those continued steps up and up and up because again, it
• 22:16
  ain't gonna be perfect. We do have some flaws, but The
• 22:19
  thing is what I think, I think as a fan base and probably us
• 22:22
  four, that makes us feel better. Talking about the run fits and
• 22:25
  tackling, we know it was an issue and it's like I know I'm
• 22:29
  not going to say it's solved yet, but at least I know they
• 22:32
  are coaching to it and you saw it in practice.
• 22:36
  Just like Tyler Bowen, we talked about you know he processed it,
• 22:40
  you can't get away from the run. We have to continue doing this.
• 22:44
  He didn't get away from it. So it's they're learning from
• 22:46
  those mistakes that continued, that were continuing to happen
• 22:50
  and finally they self corrected, which is always a good thing.
• 22:53
  All right. We do have to talk about what
• 22:54
  went bad. You know, we, we, we, we can
• 22:58
  sugarcoat it. But Brian, where do you want to
• 23:01
  start with this? What it was?
• 23:03
  That Saturday night. Let's start.
• 23:05
  We always do the right side of the offensive line.
• 23:10
  It was another subpar overall performance.
• 23:14
  Probably the some of the other guys on the other side of the
• 23:18
  ball had some of the better games they played in their
• 23:21
  career specifically I'd say. Kaden played really well.
• 23:24
  Xavier Chaplin probably played the best game in his career.
• 23:27
  So you know when you have that there, what's kind of going on
• 23:31
  the right side looks stands out a little bit more, right?
• 23:34
  So not a good game from Parker. Not, not, not as bad as it has
• 23:40
  been the last couple. Probably Schick's worst game,
• 23:45
  especially in the run game that that I've seen this year.
• 23:48
  So rough overall on that side. Thankfully, it didn't end up.
• 23:52
  Having a big impact on the game between what Tudon and Drones
• 23:57
  were able to do with some of the misdirections, some of the
• 24:01
  broken tackles and making something out of nothing.
• 24:03
  Some of that kind of got glossed over a little bit where where
• 24:07
  there was a a good play from that wasn't really blocked that
• 24:11
  great right. So you had, you had a few of
• 24:14
  those, but Zero had Bob the Builder inhale all night.
• 24:20
  Even when he wasn't making plays, he was in the backfield,
• 24:22
  he was grabbing people. He was doing all types of shit.
• 24:25
  Bob, I'm going to tell you, like I told Parker, if you don't get
• 24:29
  it together, y'all too I'm on. Since we won, I'm going to let
• 24:33
  you. I'm going to let you live.
• 24:36
  You better get it together. You better protect this
• 24:38
  quarterback in this running back.
• 24:40
  So Sheldon, who was our highest graded alignment in the case?
• 24:45
  It was definitely getting more. I remember looking at the the
• 24:48
  grades. I think it was around like 6063
• 24:51
  or something. He was really good in in fast
• 24:52
  protection and pretty good and and run blocking as well.
• 24:55
  But I mean for the most part I think the office of line was
• 24:57
  pretty average to below average outside of more.
• 25:01
  I think the biggest, the biggest reason for the success as you
• 25:03
  guys saw was the the wide receiver blocking in the
• 25:05
  perimeter. That's how you that's how they
• 25:08
  set up all the the outside runs. You can't.
• 25:09
  You can't make those plays work if you don't have good blocking
• 25:11
  from the wide receivers. But when you got a tight end
• 25:14
  coach for a wide receiver coach, you better.
• 25:16
  I got a feeling fine tail minds. You don't block, you don't play
• 25:19
  for that man. And just his face shows it too.
• 25:23
  On the other thing, on the touch, Yeah, on the touchdown
• 25:25
  where Drones was dragging three or four people in the end zone,
• 25:29
  the only person I've seen that, like, really engaged and blocked
• 25:33
  was more. If you go back and watch the
• 25:37
  play, you know, it just wasn't nobody else there, you know?
• 25:39
  And the and the three or four people that he was dragging in
• 25:42
  the end zone was the people that were supposed to be blocked.
• 25:45
  So you know, like. Sometimes you get lucky.
• 25:49
  Partly got lucky. His man took himself out of the
• 25:52
  play. Chaplain's man kind of took
• 25:54
  himself out of the play, then redirected and grabbed.
• 25:57
  You know, he has some other people grabbing.
• 25:59
  But I mean what I can say. I know we talking about what
• 26:03
  went bad, but what I can say is even though we was fucking up,
• 26:06
  we was doing it full speed. Yeah, Brody was in there
• 26:10
  helping. He was trying to pull and
• 26:12
  taking, taking drones to the end zone.
• 26:14
  And sometimes that's what you need, man.
• 26:17
  You got to, you got to find something to play for, you got
• 26:19
  to play for each other and there you go.
• 26:21
  It looked like we at least tried to do that.
• 26:23
  If you can't play good, play hard.
• 26:24
  There you there you go. So let's talk about the couple
• 26:28
  explosive pass plays that led to two of Pitts 4 touchdowns.
• 26:33
  Do we all agree the first one is what it is?
• 26:36
  Man got beat, Bombed on us. Bomb can't do nothing about
• 26:40
  that. The second one was the the one
• 26:43
  Tally was mentioned in a few minutes ago.
• 26:45
  Yes, the obvious. Nobody wanted to wrap up
• 26:48
  Flemeister on that little screen.
• 26:50
  Nobody. And.
• 26:53
  That play which went for, I believe it was 5061 yards. 6161,
• 27:00
  Yep, 61 in the 75 as 136 of their yards right there on their
• 27:07
  total. I think it was under 200 plus,
• 27:09
  but it's still you still don't like to see it right.
• 27:14
  I know, I know, Shelton can probably pull us up here and say
• 27:17
  percentage wise for explosive plays, we were significantly
• 27:20
  lower Saturday night. Than the national average.
• 27:23
  I'll let him I'll let him pull that up and talk about it but
• 27:26
  it's still it's knowing where you're going it's that whole
• 27:32
  forcing teams Brian me and you always talked about this for
• 27:34
  years forcing teams to drive the ball more plays equals more
• 27:40
  potential errors. If if you getting when you
• 27:43
  getting shredded with one or two plays and they go for you know
• 27:47
  30-40 plus yards like you don't have a chance in that.
• 27:52
  They score and it's like that whole mentality of keep it in
• 27:56
  front of you, you keep it in front of you, they got to run
• 27:59
  another play. Eventually somebody will screw
• 28:01
  up hopefully and good things happen.
• 28:07
  So go ahead, go. Ahead, I was just going to.
• 28:09
  I'll let you go and pitch it to you.
• 28:11
  I'll jump in after that. Sean, what, what was the
• 28:14
  percentage on explosive plays from Pitt if you have that data?
• 28:18
  If not, Brian will jump in while you're still researching.
• 28:20
  Yeah, you can go ahead. I'm I'm still looking at it.
• 28:22
  Yeah you're good just saying on explosive plays I mean you know
• 28:27
  that's really been the the big struggle for this team in every
• 28:31
  game so far. You know let let those big plays
• 28:35
  especially in the run game. So the fact that we're we're
• 28:37
  starting to make some some hay there is nice but you know you
• 28:42
  still have the one like you said it happens but when on on the
• 28:47
  screen just get them to the ground.
• 28:51
  To the ground and The thing is. And guys are in position to make
• 28:56
  the play. That's the more frustrating,
• 28:58
  like if it's a caravan, then you know it is what it is.
• 29:01
  But right, if if you just get out outflanked, then we got
• 29:07
  accepted like they threw a bomb on us.
• 29:09
  Somebody got beat. Nothing you really can do.
• 29:12
  Somebody got beat with no safety help, but when you when you got
• 29:17
  people in position to make a tackle and the defense somewhat
• 29:19
  looks to be called to stop that play, even though that was a
• 29:24
  safety blitz, I mean a corner blitz, they threw the ball where
• 29:27
  the corner came from. We still have people in place to
• 29:30
  make the tackle. A PR came in like a like he was
• 29:34
  shot out of a rocket, just didn't wrap up and when he hit
• 29:37
  the running back, it looked like he gave him a Mario star and he
• 29:41
  took off to the end zone. I was like, how did he do that?
• 29:45
  Like he wasn't running that fast before he got hit.
• 29:47
  So it was just when stuff like that happens, you know, and
• 29:51
  especially in like that point in the game where you're making
• 29:54
  some noise, I think it was 28 to 7 and then they go for a run
• 29:59
  like that. You're like okay, here we go.
• 30:01
  That's what Virginia Tech does. We we give up the big plays, so.
• 30:05
  Very true. Sheldon, were you able to find
• 30:08
  anything? Yeah, I just, I think I so I had
• 30:13
  7% exposed to put rate against Pitts and then I think against
• 30:19
  Rutgers it was like 4%, which is pretty bad.
• 30:21
  Marshall was much better, though.
• 30:23
  So The thing is, it kind of obviously goes up and down game
• 30:26
  to game. There's a lot of variance in
• 30:28
  terms of explicit plays. I would say this is probably 1
• 30:30
  area where I think maybe the analytics.
• 30:35
  Differs from conventional wisdom.
• 30:37
  It's not that explicit plays don't matter, It's just that
• 30:39
  they tend to be pretty random. And so the most sustainable way
• 30:43
  to create offense is to, like I said, stay on schedule, be
• 30:47
  successful, you know, get get chunk cards when you can.
• 30:51
  I think it's what like to the point you're saying having
• 30:54
  explicit plays is big because it reduces the number of plays you
• 30:57
  need to score for to to have a successful drive, which is less,
• 31:03
  you know, potential for error. But when you look at it over
• 31:07
  over the course of time, the best offices are the ones that
• 31:09
  stay on schedule, not necessarily the ones that have
• 31:12
  the biggest explosive plays. So it it does matter, but it's
• 31:14
  just one component, I think, of sustaining offense.
• 31:17
  And so the biggest thing for me against Pitt was the fact that
• 31:20
  tech was, like I said, extremely successful.
• 31:23
  They were They had a 50% success rate, which would have been
• 31:27
  around the 90th percentile. So that's that's really, really
• 31:30
  good. Yeah, we need to offense.
• 31:32
  And I mean, you know to to Sheldon's point there, when you
• 31:36
  look at those, those explosive plays and you look at what Pitts
• 31:40
  been doing all year, The problem that with Pitts offense is that
• 31:43
  they're pretty much only explosive plays right now.
• 31:45
  Like, they have very little. They're generating very little
• 31:48
  offense outside of those explosive plays.
• 31:50
  Right. But you know the one thing you
• 31:53
  talked about Shelton's making a great point of staying on task,
• 31:56
  it's impressive you say we're at 90% success rate when we had 10
• 32:00
  penalties at 91 yards. Now two of those were complete.
• 32:06
  Two were bullshit. I'll straight straight up two
• 32:08
  were bullshit drone spiking the ball and a 15 yard penalty and
• 32:14
  delaying trash talking. Really.
• 32:18
  I mean I'm wondering is it, I'm wondering is it a cold word that
• 32:21
  the the reps said like some some reps don't like a certain word.
• 32:25
  Did you say, you know, I wonder, did he say that word?
• 32:28
  Maybe, you know, I mean like. The football.
• 32:31
  And he's like, wait a second. Spiking the football gets you a
• 32:35
  penalty? What?
• 32:36
  Yeah, well, I didn't know that. Well, apparently get jacked into
• 32:40
  the backfield is enough to be to get a tripping call on these
• 32:43
  too, so you know. I mean so.
• 32:45
  That was a that was a phantom tripping call on Gosnell.
• 32:48
  So that's really three. If you want to add it, add that
• 32:50
  one in. So add that one in there.
• 32:51
  So three, the phantom tripping call, they all are fifteens.
• 32:55
  So what that scares me on this because the other seven were for
• 32:59
  60 and you know they were procedurals.
• 33:02
  I think we have one offsides and those are the ones where
• 33:05
  Shelton's just talking about. We have to, we have to clean
• 33:08
  that up because you're not going to have the success rate of 90
• 33:12
  having. You know, 60 plus yards or
• 33:14
  excuse me, 40 plus yards and procedural penalties because
• 33:17
  you're going to be first and 15. Oh well, instead of section and
• 33:20
  six, it's second and 11:00 because somebody jumped.
• 33:25
  So it's something I want to see cleaned up.
• 33:27
  I think we all want to see cleaned up because those are the
• 33:29
  ones you like. That's the ones that I will
• 33:31
  litter If I'm sitting here with my hat on in the man cave and we
• 33:33
  do, I throw it to the ground because it's like, just like,
• 33:37
  stop the stupid crap. Like, stop the dumb shit, you
• 33:39
  might as well throw the hat up because they throw the flags up
• 33:42
  because we jumping off sides. Yeah, I mean, you know, Curtis
• 33:47
  you're talking about, I mean, it ended up not being playing that
• 33:49
  much of A role this week. But I mean, you look back to the
• 33:51
  Marshall game with going from. 4th and one to keep the drive
• 33:55
  going to tie it to 4th and 6th and now you got a completely
• 33:58
  different mindset of what you need to do to get that first
• 34:00
  down and how pissed does it make you?
• 34:03
  How piss does it make you that we run the 4th down play where
• 34:06
  we put drones on the center and right behind him and we just
• 34:11
  push him forward and he gains like 3 yards?
• 34:13
  We didn't do it again, but I'm no, but I'm saying if we don't
• 34:17
  jump off sides against Marshall, we can use that play, you know,
• 34:20
  and we can get a first down, but you jump off sides and you make
• 34:23
  it 4th and 6th. Totally different play.
• 34:26
  Yep. All right.
• 34:27
  Before we wrap it up, anything else of what went bad?
• 34:30
  Any of y'all want to point out, I will say this and it's
• 34:34
  something that he's they're going to have to correct and
• 34:38
  it's probably because of how much he's he's carrying the
• 34:40
  ball. I think Drones has fumbled in
• 34:43
  three games. I think he's fumbled three times
• 34:46
  or maybe lost three from. I got to go back and look, I
• 34:48
  know he's fumbled a couple times.
• 34:50
  We got to, he's got to clean that up.
• 34:52
  You know, we, he don't want that stigma on him.
• 34:54
  I know he's carrying that ball a lot.
• 34:56
  Sooner or later we're going to have to not have him carry the
• 34:58
  ball 22 * a game. But we got to, we got to live
• 35:03
  with those fumbles because, you know, in a close game it'll come
• 35:06
  back and bite us. Yeah, the first game he had the
• 35:09
  the missed handoff. So what really like fumble, But
• 35:12
  I mean it was it was credited to him because of the exchange at
• 35:15
  the mesh point. But then, yeah, he did fumble.
• 35:18
  Against Marshall, you know, running the football and then
• 35:21
  obviously what was what happened in the backfield this week.
• 35:24
  It gets pits so you know got to clean up the fumbles.
• 35:28
  He's doing good. I don't think he's got one pick
• 35:32
  but you know as as the play caller man and and I think
• 35:35
  drones is doing an awesome job. Y'all know how I feel.
• 35:38
  Y'all know how BCP feels about drones being Q B1 we.
• 35:42
  Have been only since April. Yeah, yeah.
• 35:45
  But him going forward and him taking that next step is going
• 35:48
  to be he's got to clean up the, got to clean up the turnovers.
• 35:51
  Well, all three of them are different though the the mesh
• 35:53
  point, you know. There's been no issues with the
• 35:57
  mesh since then, right? The run.
• 35:59
  It was how he was protecting the ball.
• 36:01
  I didn't see that Saturday night.
• 36:03
  When he ran, he was much more protected.
• 36:05
  What it was Saturday night was he was trembling, trying to get
• 36:08
  away and he was trying like a slipped out of his hand.
• 36:11
  So it's one of those. That's where the conversations
• 36:13
  got to be. Hey, listen.
• 36:15
  You've got to know when it's over and you just got to Chuck
• 36:18
  it over the head so but but the way I see it is we've had no
• 36:21
  more mess issues. He looked better protected the
• 36:23
  ball Saturday again it's like they're coaching to it.
• 36:26
  He's taking it and he's put it in practice.
• 36:28
  So let's clean up the the other one, let's clean up the well.
• 36:34
  When you're getting pressured and you know and and there's a
• 36:37
  no win situation, you've got to get rid of it quicker.
• 36:42
  You can because at that point there were two guys on him.
• 36:44
  Yeah. And I was going to say it's a
• 36:45
  couple of times what he's what he's good at is also can be what
• 36:49
  the Achilles heel will be like. He's good.
• 36:53
  I think, I can't remember was it fourth, was it fourth quarter
• 36:56
  maybe third or fourth quarter the the the throw he made to
• 36:59
  Dequan, right. He's got people draped on him
• 37:03
  and he kind of jumps and throws the 30 yard pass and we get the
• 37:06
  first down to right. So my thing is like he, he has a
• 37:14
  knack for doing certain things, but the more and more he plays,
• 37:18
  he's going to have to see how he can do that.
• 37:20
  Because it was a couple of times like when they got the
• 37:23
  intentional grounding call, like if he doesn't have just a little
• 37:27
  bit more arm on that ball, he had no receipt was around.
• 37:30
  That's a pick and that's a pick six, you know what I'm saying?
• 37:34
  Like that's a long, that is a long way to the sideline.
• 37:37
  So I know he he got a looking at him play man he looks so mature.
• 37:43
  He's such a young guy man and I just you know I want them to to
• 37:46
  get behind him and and keep developing him because he's
• 37:49
  special. You know I I I kind of thought
• 37:52
  it when I seen him and I seen some of those things that he
• 37:55
  could do. I was like, I think he'll fit,
• 37:57
  fit in good in this, in this offense, but you know just those
• 38:00
  things, if he tweaks those, you know, moving forward, I think
• 38:04
  that I think we got a star in our hands.
• 38:06
  I. Think you're right?
• 38:08
  Take the ball, baby. Protected.
• 38:10
  All right, let's move on this one.
• 38:11
  That was obviously the bad. We still have things we are
• 38:15
  griping about because we're fans, because they ain't no none
• 38:19
  of y'all out there below that, because I know y'all great, but.
• 38:23
  Let's do this one next and I'm going to lead it off Anything
• 38:26
  that happened that we were not prepared for, and this is my
• 38:29
  biggie after the big Flameister touchdown pass after the fumble.
• 38:36
  Within 5 seconds, it goes from a three score lead to A1 score
• 38:39
  lead. And this is where I think you
• 38:41
  know people, The question Is it the right coaching staff?
• 38:43
  And this is when it kind of clicked on me.
• 38:45
  We do have a good coaching staff.
• 38:47
  That whole team was calm. The entire team was calm.
• 38:51
  Offense, defense, everybody was just like, hey, this is all
• 38:55
  right, everybody take a breath. We've made a couple mistakes.
• 38:59
  We still got a lead. We're still playing well.
• 39:03
  I mean there have been times in the past where it wasn't like
• 39:06
  that. It was the old cascade effect,
• 39:08
  Brian, right? Rolling down bad just keeps
• 39:12
  happening. Bad just keeps happening.
• 39:15
  It didn't happen because after that, you know, after that
• 39:18
  fumble return, after the fumble return, just a few minutes
• 39:24
  later, we going to score again, we we take the 14 point lead
• 39:28
  back and it's just like okay. That made me feel good.
• 39:32
  What about? You, Brian, I'd say the big
• 39:34
  thing there is that, you know, when we look at just speaking to
• 39:39
  your point, not only did they not panic, but the staff trusted
• 39:45
  the players to go out there and get it back, right, get that
• 39:49
  touchdown back and they did it. So that was big.
• 39:52
  My thing is, I didn't expect that much complimentary football
• 39:56
  and one football game. That's true.
• 40:00
  I wasn't expected. Yeah, that's true.
• 40:03
  Well, going back to two what what Curtis said when he talks
• 40:05
  about the calmness kind of starts with the head man, like
• 40:09
  when drones turns that ball over, which we've talked about
• 40:14
  other regimes that we probably know of would have got tight or
• 40:18
  even even even us. You know, we would have thought
• 40:21
  our coaches might have got tight.
• 40:22
  But I've seen and and and we talked about it you know last
• 40:25
  week talking about wanting to see some you know some action
• 40:30
  from the coaches. I seen pride be lining over the
• 40:34
  to drones when he when he lost that ball and I'm like oh he's
• 40:37
  about to get in his ass. He didn't.
• 40:39
  He went over he put his head. You know I don't know what he
• 40:41
  said to him. He probably said you better go
• 40:43
  get it back. You know it's all right we still
• 40:45
  up. But whatever he said he made
• 40:47
  sure his young quarterback was calm enough to go out and run
• 40:50
  the offense. So Andrea I was wondering where
• 40:53
  you was at. I was about to get pissed, man,
• 40:55
  if you don't show up on a win, but but anyway, yeah, like like
• 41:00
  Curtis said, man, just the calmness of the team, you know,
• 41:04
  starting with the coach, then the quarterback, then everybody
• 41:06
  else. We just kept on.
• 41:08
  We kept on grooving and then what Brian said, you know we had
• 41:12
  the we had the complimentary football throughout the
• 41:17
  throughout the game. You know, you kind of when when
• 41:21
  things went bad on offense, defense stepped up, you know
• 41:25
  what I'm saying? When they cut it.
• 41:27
  So when they cut the lead, defense went out and got a big
• 41:30
  stop. When they gave the ball back to
• 41:32
  the offense, the offense went and scored.
• 41:34
  Because there's been plenty of times when we get a, we get a,
• 41:37
  a, a, a turnover on the 10 yard line and have to kick a field
• 41:42
  goal. No, we punched it in.
• 41:44
  Yes, we did. Yes, we.
• 41:46
  So brings me to my point. I didn't think I was going to
• 41:49
  have to change my underwear as much as I did.
• 41:52
  Yep, Yep. Man, it was bad.
• 41:55
  It was bad, man. Creaming all day.
• 42:01
  It was, it was so many good points in the game.
• 42:04
  It was so, you know, talk about the complimentary football, you
• 42:07
  talk about the calmness of the team, you talking about what the
• 42:10
  coaches did. It was just great to see a full
• 42:13
  game of competent football. You know what I'm saying?
• 42:17
  And and just to lay it out again my everybody knows my son plays
• 42:22
  travel baseball. So we're at the ball field place
• 42:25
  called Albertville this week, which is still in the in the
• 42:27
  country. It's a lot of country places and
• 42:29
  if we're playing baseball in Alabama, you're usually in the
• 42:31
  country. So I'm on the on the the group
• 42:36
  chat with the fellows and I'm just getting like late updates
• 42:39
  like no, but they're crazy too. It's like oh screenplay And then
• 42:44
  it's like, oh fuck. And then it's like, fuck the
• 42:47
  refs. And I'm like, like they're all
• 42:49
  out of order. So I don't know what's going on.
• 42:50
  So I just got to put it down until I actually can call
• 42:53
  somebody or until I can go check the score, move around and find
• 42:58
  a spot. So it it was nerve racking to
• 43:02
  not be able to watch it while it was live.
• 43:04
  But it also was, you know, very like it.
• 43:09
  It was just, man, when you looked at the score and we were
• 43:12
  up, you know, 28 to 7 and then they come back and make it 2821
• 43:17
  to 28, then we go up and take the lead, go to 3521.
• 43:21
  I'm like, we got a football team, yeah.
• 43:23
  We did shown. What about you?
• 43:25
  What surprised you Saturday night?
• 43:28
  I would say how efficient the passing game was.
• 43:30
  I mean, I didn't get to the stat yet, but you look at EPA per
• 43:35
  drop back, so that's expected points added.
• 43:37
  Basically it converts yards into points.
• 43:40
  Tech ranked in the 99th percentile in in that stat.
• 43:43
  So they they averaged about what was I think 12 yards per drop
• 43:47
  back and that includes sacks. Obviously Tech did not give up a
• 43:50
  single sack and it also includes scramble runs.
• 43:53
  So they were they were super, super efficient in terms of the
• 43:58
  the dropout passing game, which I think was really, really
• 44:00
  helpful. They obviously generated some
• 44:02
  expensive plays. The the touchdown passed the
• 44:03
  lane where I think he kind of, you know, sat in that little
• 44:07
  underneath spot. Kind of drift away from the
• 44:09
  linebackers who who kind of cheated towards one side and
• 44:12
  then had a ton of running room. I think it was just it was just
• 44:15
  a really good efficient passing offense, which is pretty nice to
• 44:18
  see and I know drones great out really well on PFF too.
• 44:21
  So kind of kind of backs up the eye test as well.
• 44:23
  He was just really smart with the, smart with the ball and
• 44:25
  make good decisions. Alrighty.
• 44:29
  Well, what can we do better moving forward?
• 44:30
  I know the one that we've kept on there is we.
• 44:33
  I think the way Brody Meadow plays, Brody Meadows needs to be
• 44:37
  starting somewhere on the line when he's got to be starting
• 44:40
  somewhere. I don't know where it is.
• 44:44
  I know where Brian wants him. As long as we get somebody off
• 44:48
  the right side of the line, I'm good at this point.
• 44:52
  And and and I think that happens and we're sitting here talking
• 44:55
  about it. Could we see it Florida State or
• 44:56
  wake? Me and Brian had a little
• 44:58
  sidebar conversation the other day boys.
• 45:00
  If it happens, it's going to be Syracuse.
• 45:02
  Because they're going to have the big break, right?
• 45:04
  They're going to have their off week and then they're going to
• 45:07
  have prepping for Syracuse. I think that's the week if
• 45:09
  there's a change made. Unless they just say, you know
• 45:12
  what? Put the better guy on the right
• 45:14
  side. Yeah, but you'll get, you'll get
• 45:16
  at least two extra practices in that period there, so.
• 45:20
  Yeah, What else, Brian? I mean, let's continue stringing
• 45:25
  together these multiple quarters of complimentary football
• 45:27
  because say win game, I kind of like it.
• 45:32
  It wins games. It's nice.
• 45:35
  It's nice looking at A at A at a team that looks competent for
• 45:40
  four quarters in pretty much every phase.
• 45:42
  Like, I don't expect them to go out there and be perfect.
• 45:44
  I don't think any of us expect them to go out there and play a
• 45:46
  perfect game, except maybe this week because that's what's
• 45:50
  needed to win. But we'll get to that after the
• 45:52
  break. True.
• 45:55
  True. Anything else?
• 45:56
  Tally well, Brian said. You know, playing competent but
• 46:00
  also playing confident. You know, knowing that you know
• 46:03
  your plays, you know, moving forward, knowing that the play
• 46:06
  call is going to work, knowing that you got the people in place
• 46:09
  to make the play. You know, if you watch Felton on
• 46:14
  that first pass, he's missed some.
• 46:15
  You know, he's still, of course he's he's not perfect, He's a
• 46:17
  human, but he's missed some balls that's been thrown to him.
• 46:20
  But when he caught that ball, you can see the excitement, like
• 46:23
  he's got it with two hands. He's about to squeeze the air
• 46:25
  out of it. Like he was so excited to catch
• 46:28
  the ball and get in the end zone and burn somebody.
• 46:30
  Like, that's confidence, you know what I'm saying?
• 46:32
  You can see his confidence building just every week, you
• 46:36
  know, and then Lane getting back.
• 46:37
  I don't think Lane knew he was 100% until he caught that ball
• 46:41
  and and took off because I seen him on the sideline.
• 46:44
  Like, I always watch the game within the game.
• 46:47
  Like, I don't just watch the plays.
• 46:49
  I watch sideline stuff. I watch things that's going on
• 46:52
  between the plays, kind of offensive lineman talking to
• 46:55
  each other. But I seen Lane after he caught
• 46:58
  that pass, it was like he was talking maybe to the other one I
• 47:01
  received was and he was like I thought I was going to get
• 47:03
  caught. And you know what I'm saying?
• 47:04
  He kind of filled it in his hamstring.
• 47:06
  But he's, I don't think he's 100%, but I think he may be 90%.
• 47:09
  You know, I don't think he knew that until he he caught that and
• 47:13
  he turned it on so because he hit another gear when he got
• 47:16
  that ball. So you know we need that for us
• 47:19
  to to compete and win, but definitely to compete in this
• 47:23
  week. Confidence man.
• 47:26
  Anything else we can do better moving forward?
• 47:29
  I would say the offensive line was still not great.
• 47:33
  I think when you look at some of our rushing numbers, it's it's a
• 47:36
  little bit misleading because we had a ton of big or I would say
• 47:39
  big, but we had a ton of chunk plays.
• 47:41
  But in terms of just like, you know, line yards, which is
• 47:44
  basically like yards that you contribute to offensive line
• 47:47
  play, it was not great and it has been great for most this
• 47:49
  year. No, I do think they're getting a
• 47:50
  little bit better. But there's definitely still
• 47:53
  some misassignments there. I think our running success had
• 47:55
  more to do with drones kind of making things happen as well as
• 47:58
  like I said getting the ball to the perimeter and having those
• 48:01
  wide receivers block. So I mean because they we had so
• 48:04
  many tosses to to you know, outside the outside the tackles
• 48:09
  that it was kind of hard to really attribute that too much
• 48:11
  to to the online play. I don't know what schematically
• 48:15
  they they looked at with Pitt, but like every single time they
• 48:17
  got the ball outside like we had numbers, we just, you know, it's
• 48:19
  just a matter of blocking it up, right.
• 48:20
  I wish they did. So obviously a lot of work work
• 48:24
  to do with devs line, but at the very least the wide receiver
• 48:26
  blocking was was fantastic. So some good, some bad.
• 48:29
  Yeah, I think, I think Bowen is figuring out what the team as a
• 48:33
  whole, from an offensive standpoint does well in terms of
• 48:35
  the running game and what it what it doesn't do well is just
• 48:39
  line up and run between the tackles.
• 48:41
  Yeah. Can I say one thing though about
• 48:43
  that? He still keeps it honest because
• 48:46
  there were times he was just it would be Malachi or two, just
• 48:49
  like Y'all running inside zone. We're going to get about 3
• 48:52
  yards. If y'all break one, we might get
• 48:54
  5. You can't.
• 48:56
  You can't have those linebackers just flowing right off the bat,
• 48:59
  so you got to keep them on us. You got to keep them.
• 49:02
  On us, but I think we figured out those like 5 or 6 running
• 49:06
  plays that we can get some positive yards on every time now
• 49:10
  and we're starting to figure that out and I think that's
• 49:14
  that's helped the offensive line in terms of the rushing game
• 49:16
  more than anything else and when you.
• 49:21
  Things like that make the lineman's job a little bit
• 49:23
  easier too, so the block's a little bit easier to get there.
• 49:29
  So you'll see the grades creep up a little bit because of that,
• 49:32
  too. Now there's still not we don't
• 49:36
  have any. Yeah, not not a lot of green on
• 49:40
  that sheet yet, but you know we're starting at least creeping
• 49:42
  to the yellow on some of those those PFF grades.
• 49:45
  It's. It's going to be a slow go, but
• 49:48
  we are seeing some improvement and it's to me, it's been that
• 49:51
  way since Kyra Jones took out. I still sit here and y'all if we
• 49:55
  take a look at how we're rushing the ball, we are now, I think,
• 50:00
  let me see, 125, one to 300 to 500.
• 50:04
  We're averaging about 170. A game on the ground since
• 50:08
  Calvin Jones took over 170 is about 40th in the country
• 50:11
  Rushing the ball. That's that is a crazy a game.
• 50:15
  That's crazy. Crazy.
• 50:17
  Because you tell me right now, we're going to rush the ball in
• 50:19
  the Top 40. I'll take it every year.
• 50:22
  Every year you take it because you're going to get between
• 50:24
  somewhere between 170 and 180 a game.
• 50:27
  People talk and you'll have people that say, well, you
• 50:30
  played this team on this team, what this and that.
• 50:33
  We played ODU and couldn't run the ball.
• 50:35
  Couldn't run the ball against the best 3 defensive We played
• 50:39
  tally. We've ran our best.
• 50:41
  We've ran our best against Rutgers, who's a good solid
• 50:44
  defense. Marshall, who might be the best
• 50:46
  G5 defense out there, and Pitt, who I said before was a top 15
• 50:51
  ranked defense or who they play. Don't care.
• 50:54
  The numbers are the numbers. They played North Carolina.
• 50:57
  Kept them look at Ron's. Got a husband?
• 50:59
  I mean, West Virginia is about a slouch team right now.
• 51:02
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  it is time for know the enemy. As we take a look at the Florida
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  State Seminoles where the Hokies will take on them 330 ABC
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  Yeah, watch it. That don't matter. 330ABC at the
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  doke. Let's start with the offense, as
• 53:07
  we always do. Brian.
• 53:08
  Let's talk about this scheme of Alex Atkins.
• 53:12
  Yeah, it's that that spread RPO's got a lot of Prostyle
• 53:15
  elements in it. They run a mostly 11 and 12
• 53:19
  personnel, heavy dose of 11, but they'll occasionally go 12,
• 53:22
  especially in, you know those those running situations in
• 53:27
  terms of the running game, they like to get you a lot of outside
• 53:30
  zone encounter. They also use the quarterback a
• 53:32
  really good, good amount. You're going to see a heavy dose
• 53:36
  of Jordan Travis in this game. They like to use a lot of
• 53:39
  motion, get favorable matchups in the passing game, use that to
• 53:42
  confuse the the linebackers and in defensive lineman in terms of
• 53:47
  the gap responsibilities. So that's what to expect from
• 53:50
  the offense, yeah. And the first player we'll talk
• 53:54
  about is the one who's leading the charge, Jordan Travis, the
• 53:57
  quarterback giving a little background on him.
• 54:00
  Listed as dual threat quarterback 62, about 185.
• 54:06
  He's from North Palm Beach, FL. So Florida boy went to the
• 54:10
  Benjamin school. Don't know a lot of people that
• 54:13
  have went there, but that's where he went to high school.
• 54:16
  Out of high school he was ranked about an 85 composite 3 star
• 54:21
  dual threat athlete. Looks like he was 800 and 89th
• 54:27
  in the nation back then. Out of high school he had, he
• 54:34
  had offers from Louisville where he committed to and went, but
• 54:38
  we'll get into that. Other big ones was Georgia,
• 54:44
  North Carolina, you know, then he had some small stuff like
• 54:49
  Rutgers or I say small stuff, but other smaller schools,
• 54:53
  Rutgers, Southern Miss, UCF. He did ended up, he did end up
• 54:59
  going to a committee and going to Louisville or he transferred
• 55:04
  to Florida State a year later. And I don't think he really
• 55:10
  needs the introduction on what he's been able to do at Florida
• 55:12
  State. He's been lighting it up.
• 55:15
  I mean he can, he can run it. He can throw it right now just
• 55:19
  to give a couple of stats that he has just a second.
• 55:25
  Got it pulled up here. Couple of stats that he has,
• 55:28
  he's got 1028 yards passing this year, completion rate of about
• 55:36
  61. He's got 10 touchdowns and one
• 55:40
  interception. So he's not turning the ball
• 55:43
  over a lot or hardly at all right now rushing the ball.
• 55:47
  He's carried the ball about 23 times.
• 55:49
  It says he's got 94 yards, 2 touchdowns.
• 55:54
  Brian, what you got on him? Yeah, I mean he's he's one of
• 55:58
  the better overall quarterbacks in the country at this point.
• 56:01
  I'd probably put him at least in kind of that top five,
• 56:05
  definitely top ten in terms of quarterbacks in the country
• 56:09
  delivers a good and accurate ball, can really threaten you
• 56:12
  all over the field. We can throw a deep, pretty
• 56:15
  accurate in the intermediate game.
• 56:16
  Really good improvisation. Like I'd say, that's off the
• 56:20
  charts for him in terms of what he can do when a play breaks
• 56:23
  down. Whether that's running it or,
• 56:26
  you know, kind of throwing it off off the off the podium there
• 56:29
  a little bit. So elite rush stability doesn't
• 56:33
  run the ball a ton, but when he does, he's very effective with
• 56:36
  it and definitely the scariest player on that offense overall.
• 56:41
  Shown any sort of more deep statistics to talk about Jordan
• 56:45
  Travis with? I would say the biggest thing,
• 56:49
  obviously is just his experience.
• 56:50
  I mean, he's been in college for six years.
• 56:52
  Now he has. 1010 career drop backs, obviously 5th year Forest
• 56:59
  State. He's gotten better join speaking
• 57:01
  every year if you look at just his grades and that's not
• 57:04
  necessarily just you know a reflection of his his actual
• 57:06
  play but you can tell the stats kind of back up you know how
• 57:09
  good he is. This one thing I did notice he
• 57:14
  has the fourth lowest adjusted completion percentage in the
• 57:17
  ACC. So for all of his accolades and
• 57:20
  honestly, you know he's got so many.
• 57:22
  Accuracy has not been necessarily, you would say,
• 57:25
  great. He also has the lowest
• 57:28
  percentage of pressures converted into sacks.
• 57:31
  So basically what that means is when Florida State, even when
• 57:34
  Florida State gives up pressure, he does not get sacked.
• 57:37
  So that could be sort of a luck stat, but it could also be the
• 57:41
  fact that he's able to escape pressure pretty easily and, you
• 57:44
  know, can also move around a little bit.
• 57:45
  So take that for what it's worth.
• 57:48
  All righty. So there's Jordan Travis,
• 57:49
  obviously, I think it's the name every single person knows.
• 57:52
  I got a feeling just about every name we talk about here today,
• 57:54
  everybody's probably going to already know it and that makes
• 57:57
  the next guy very easy. That's Keyon Coleman.
• 58:01
  Keyon Coleman, 6 foot four, £215 wide receiver, originally
• 58:05
  committed and playing for the Michigan State Spartans where he
• 58:11
  got some definitely some run last year before he came in the
• 58:14
  portal. His original He was a top 500
• 58:17
  player, a consensus 4 star down there, and so far this year just
• 58:24
  that line straight up. 17 receptions, 256, six touchdowns
• 58:29
  tells me every 3rd ball that man catches, he's getting
• 58:32
  touchdowns. Brian, what are you selling on
• 58:36
  him? Yeah, I mean, the thing about
• 58:39
  with him, he he's, I think they're most dangerous overall
• 58:42
  wide receiver in terms of just scoring potential there.
• 58:45
  Has the ability to beat you deep, but what he's really good
• 58:48
  at and what they've used a lot, he's a red zone threat.
• 58:52
  I'm good at using his body to position and high point.
• 58:54
  The ball went in the red area. You know, he's able to get get
• 58:59
  in the end zone very efficiently.
• 59:02
  All right, Sheldon, I know you've got some more deeper
• 59:04
  stats on him. What's some more deeper stats
• 59:06
  than just that? 17 for 256 and six touchdowns.
• 59:11
  Yeah. Give me a SEC.
• 59:12
  I'm. I'm gonna.
• 59:13
  I'm gonna put up right here. I know that the receivers have
• 59:17
  graded out pretty well. I'm.
• 59:20
  Just. Pulling it up.
• 59:22
  You're good. Well, coming out of college, let
• 59:23
  me just coming out of high school, He's from Louisiana,
• 59:26
  excuse me. Yeah, he's from Louisiana.
• 59:29
  And I mean, when he came out, you talked about the offer list
• 59:32
  tally for, you know, Jordan, which is pretty solid.
• 59:35
  I mean, he went to Michigan State, but Baylor?
• 59:38
  Auburn. Georgia.
• 59:39
  Florida State originally had an offshore state.
• 59:42
  He was one of those who are like when Dion was there, was getting
• 59:47
  recruited by Jackson State. So it wasn't like he wasn't a
• 59:51
  known, he just went up north. Let's just not talk about
• 59:55
  actually held a Virginia Tech offer as well.
• 59:57
  So you know, to be a guy of where he is, where he was rated,
• 1:00:03
  you know, good player. We always look at offer sheets,
• 1:00:06
  right? And Shelton getting this stuff
• 1:00:08
  up and there's sometimes you sit here and wander like this guy's
• 1:00:11
  getting all these officer, all these programs.
• 1:00:13
  How is he just barely a four stars?
• 1:00:15
  How is he is a three star? Especially if you look at Keon
• 1:00:19
  Cohen's body coming out, he was already like 6 foot £495.
• 1:00:24
  That's the stuff I don't get. And I know some of it.
• 1:00:26
  You know, Brian and you and Shelton, we all talk about,
• 1:00:29
  well, some of it is they're just the best athlete on the field
• 1:00:32
  where they play. It's just there's no one else in
• 1:00:35
  there. So there's some people that are
• 1:00:36
  hesitant to give them a significant bump.
• 1:00:39
  And then sometimes it's just like, well, you know, he doesn't
• 1:00:43
  do anything great. He's not a crisp route runner.
• 1:00:46
  You know, he doesn't have a blazing speed.
• 1:00:48
  So it's just interesting to see that many offers but you know,
• 1:00:54
  not the high rating. Because the people who's given
• 1:00:57
  the ratings are essentially. Me, a guy sitting behind a
• 1:01:03
  computer doing nothing. I mean, the people who are going
• 1:01:06
  out and offering scholarships are people who know what an
• 1:01:10
  offense looks like, know what a player that they can develop and
• 1:01:14
  put into that offense. And you know, looking at a
• 1:01:17
  player and say, oh, I can use him to run Jet Sweep with, I can
• 1:01:20
  use him to, you know, beat the defense.
• 1:01:22
  Like that's why you're getting offers and maybe you're not
• 1:01:25
  getting rankings, because the rankings sometimes just have to
• 1:01:29
  do with what camp should go to. And what amount of money you
• 1:01:34
  spend to get that ranking. So that's why those rankings
• 1:01:38
  sometimes are skewed. You good to go, Sheldon.
• 1:01:42
  Yeah, so nothing super eye popping about Coleman and just
• 1:01:46
  in terms of kind of the overall stats averages about 15 yards to
• 1:01:50
  catch 6 touchdowns. Like you said, the one thing he
• 1:01:52
  does really well is he is shorthanded.
• 1:01:54
  He does not have a single drop this year in 17 receptions.
• 1:01:59
  Name. That's pretty good, right?
• 1:02:02
  He's dropping one Saturday. Thank you.
• 1:02:04
  Write it down OK. Well, you know how when somebody
• 1:02:07
  shoot. Well, you know how when somebody
• 1:02:08
  shooting free throws and then the the commentator goes and
• 1:02:11
  goes he hadn't missed the free throw in 99 attempts.
• 1:02:14
  He misses that next one. Thank you, Sheldon.
• 1:02:17
  We might. Get that up, it's.
• 1:02:20
  All record, it's all record. We're good.
• 1:02:21
  It's all record the first inside slant he runs with no safety
• 1:02:25
  over the top. He's going to break it.
• 1:02:26
  Watch. All right, let's go to his the
• 1:02:29
  opposite side of the field. Let's talk about Johnny Wilson.
• 1:02:32
  Johnny Wilson was a top 120 player coming out of high
• 1:02:37
  school. He is from Calabasas, CA.
• 1:02:39
  Class of 2020, originally committed to the Arizona State
• 1:02:43
  Sun Devils when her was over there.
• 1:02:46
  So far this season, You know well the last couple seasons, I
• 1:02:51
  mean last season he went for almost 900 yards, 20 yards a
• 1:02:56
  reception, which is pretty good. And this year 303 yards on 16.
• 1:03:01
  No touchdowns though. So definitely you would think
• 1:03:05
  it's 6 foot seven, £225.00 that he would be slightly more of a
• 1:03:10
  red zone target, but I guess not.
• 1:03:12
  But Siegler, what's the what's the tape?
• 1:03:14
  Why doesn't he have any touchdowns?
• 1:03:17
  He's kind of the classic big slot guy, like, you know, you
• 1:03:20
  see those big slot receivers matchup nightmares.
• 1:03:23
  He's that guy, but he's more of that guy in the in the between
• 1:03:28
  the 20s, right? He's not really a burner, but
• 1:03:32
  he's super shifty, moves really well for his size, use him on a
• 1:03:37
  lot of crossers, digs, seams. So they're getting him up the
• 1:03:41
  field. They're not using him.
• 1:03:44
  On like fades or anything like that, even in the middle of the
• 1:03:46
  field. So you don't see that really
• 1:03:48
  called in the red zone either for him.
• 1:03:49
  He's he's definitely eats kind of in that intermediate middle
• 1:03:53
  of the of the offense. That's where they like to
• 1:03:56
  attack. And what do you got on him,
• 1:04:00
  Sheldon? Yeah, another solid player.
• 1:04:02
  Again, nothing super exceptional.
• 1:04:05
  Average is about 19 yards per catch, which is pretty good, and
• 1:04:08
  he also ranks 27th in the Power Five in terms of average depth
• 1:04:12
  of target, about 16 yards. So it did definitely a lot of
• 1:04:16
  downfield routes for him, Yeah, Makes sense when Brian says he
• 1:04:19
  looks at tape and sees those crossers, the digs in the seam,
• 1:04:22
  so that that that's pretty good to know that he is not going to
• 1:04:26
  be, I think when you're planning the defense, right?
• 1:04:29
  OK, Wilson's not going to be up on the line.
• 1:04:32
  However you're going to play him, whether it be bracket,
• 1:04:35
  maybe a robber or take your Best, and maybe Jenkins.
• 1:04:40
  I mean, Brian could y'all see Jenkins cover him.
• 1:04:45
  Not all game, not all game. Like I said, he moves pretty
• 1:04:49
  well for a for a big guy. All righty, let's talk about the
• 1:04:54
  offensive line. Next Brian and I want to talk
• 1:04:56
  about one guy Cuz again in the era of the transfer portal,
• 1:05:00
  these stories like this are going to come up more and more
• 1:05:05
  and more and the highest graded offensive lineman has been
• 1:05:10
  Blessed Harris or the the highest for LSU and Clemson was
• 1:05:13
  blessed Harris. He's from New Orleans, LA.
• 1:05:16
  He's from Saint Augustine. He was the class of 2018 so
• 1:05:19
  everybody do that 181920212223 sixth year.
• 1:05:25
  Y'all know where he played his ball for the first Four Seasons.
• 1:05:30
  Where Lamar. I know where Lamar is cuz I
• 1:05:35
  don't. Texas.
• 1:05:37
  Texas. Thank you, Shelton, with that.
• 1:05:39
  Only cuz I have no life but. Yeah.
• 1:05:43
  Hey, I know where some schools are, some schools I don't.
• 1:05:46
  But he played there for Four Seasons and then transfers to
• 1:05:49
  Florida State and is clearly tearing it up.
• 1:05:52
  But Brian, let's talk about the offensive line in general, not
• 1:05:56
  just Bless. What are you seeing from them?
• 1:06:00
  Yeah, I mean I think the big thing is that they're a good
• 1:06:03
  offensive line, not a great offensive line.
• 1:06:05
  You would, you know, you think with Florida states on the class
• 1:06:08
  they brought in, they'd be a little bit more stacked.
• 1:06:10
  They're, they're good, not great.
• 1:06:12
  They occasionally struggle to get to the second level of the
• 1:06:14
  defense. So you'll, you know potentially
• 1:06:18
  you'll, you'll see more chunk plays from their running backs
• 1:06:21
  than necessarily those really big gainers, those explosive
• 1:06:24
  plays. It's going to be kind of the
• 1:06:26
  chunk plays like we saw against Pitt last week there was 8 to 12
• 1:06:30
  yards consistently. That's where they kind of like
• 1:06:33
  eating eat in the in the running game is in that area have more
• 1:06:38
  success with the quarterback zone zone read keepers and they
• 1:06:45
  they they do occasionally get confused when you disguise the
• 1:06:47
  pressure. So that's some opportunity that
• 1:06:49
  we may have there. Getting in the backfield and
• 1:06:51
  getting after Jordan Travis. But as Shelton said that that
• 1:06:54
  still you know, doesn't mean that you're going to have
• 1:06:56
  success because Travis is very elusive in the backfield.
• 1:07:01
  You're not going to get a lot of lot of sacks against him, even
• 1:07:04
  if you are getting in the backfield.
• 1:07:07
  So I know you told me you had some more stuff on this
• 1:07:09
  offensive line. What's the data telling us?
• 1:07:12
  Are they just an average offensive line with an
• 1:07:14
  exceptional eluding quarterback? I would say a little bit of
• 1:07:19
  both. They're definitely, I would say
• 1:07:21
  above average. So you look at Bless Harris, he
• 1:07:24
  has the best pass blocking grade in the ACC according to PFF.
• 1:07:29
  You got Darius Washington, the center slash right tackle.
• 1:07:31
  He's kind of been switched around a little bit, 0 pressures
• 1:07:34
  allowed and 68 pass rushing opportunities.
• 1:07:36
  So he's their highest credit OL. And then, you know, you've also
• 1:07:42
  got Maurice Smith at center. Who's been actually pretty lowly
• 1:07:45
  graded. He's come back from injury,
• 1:07:46
  missed a couple of games, Jeremiah buyers.
• 1:07:49
  The right title has not been great.
• 1:07:50
  He's a UTEP transfer. So when you look at it, it's a
• 1:07:53
  little bit of a patchwork offensive line.
• 1:07:55
  Obviously the the big thing that Novell had to do when it came to
• 1:07:57
  FSU is is revamp that offensive line.
• 1:08:00
  That was just atrocious under under Taggart.
• 1:08:02
  I think that was the biggest reason that you saw Florida
• 1:08:05
  State, Conn struggle his first two years.
• 1:08:07
  Kind of like Coach Prize doing here at Virginia Tech now.
• 1:08:11
  It is a very, very hard position group to fix overnight.
• 1:08:14
  And so they're they've been kind of going through some growing
• 1:08:17
  pains. You take some guys from lower
• 1:08:19
  levels, try to fit them in. It's it's not always smooth.
• 1:08:22
  So it's definitely good offensive line.
• 1:08:23
  I would say you look at some of the passing stats there, 8th
• 1:08:27
  nationally in EPA on passing attempts.
• 1:08:30
  So the pass protection has been good.
• 1:08:33
  Obviously Jordan, Travis has a lot to do with that.
• 1:08:36
  But overall, I would say it's definitely.
• 1:08:40
  It's definitely not off the line that you think you might get
• 1:08:42
  dominated by. I think Travis really kind of
• 1:08:44
  makes them, makes them click. That makes a lot of sense there.
• 1:08:49
  It makes a lot of sense there. I mean, and I think we will
• 1:08:52
  consider this is clearly the best offense we will set seen
• 1:08:56
  all season, the most dynamic offense we've seen all season.
• 1:08:59
  So as good as Chris Mark called last weekend, he's got to
• 1:09:03
  actually take it up a couple levels this weekend to keep us
• 1:09:06
  in this game. I don't think any of us will
• 1:09:08
  disagree with that. Now let's switch to defense and
• 1:09:11
  let's talk about the four three defense, Brian, who's it led by?
• 1:09:18
  Yeah, we got defensive coordinator Adam Fuller.
• 1:09:22
  It's a it's a four, three. But they use a lot of hybrid
• 1:09:24
  players, especially the front seven there.
• 1:09:27
  They've got that that Fox DN position, that kind of stand up
• 1:09:31
  defensive end and then they use a hybrid linebacker.
• 1:09:35
  You know, we call our star this There's a stud.
• 1:09:38
  A stud linebacker. So that's what you can expect
• 1:09:41
  from this defense, you know, 4, three kind of standard.
• 1:09:44
  You mean you call, you call it a hybrid?
• 1:09:45
  It could be, you know, leaning to that 425 look, the way they
• 1:09:48
  use that stud linebacker. But yeah, it's not.
• 1:09:52
  It's not something that we haven't seen before.
• 1:09:55
  Alrighty. Yeah, when you talk about that
• 1:09:58
  Fox defensive end and also talk about the transfers coming from
• 1:10:03
  lower levels like we've been talking about, you got to throw
• 1:10:05
  the name Jared Verse in there. Jared Verse was a class of 2020
• 1:10:12
  Nineteen guy and he played his ball at Albany before he
• 1:10:16
  transferred. That's in Albany.
• 1:10:20
  Great Danes, that's. That's he plays.
• 1:10:23
  Curtis, do that one. He didn't even have a rating.
• 1:10:26
  Coming out of high school, there was no rating.
• 1:10:29
  It says. He had one offer, which was
• 1:10:31
  Albany coming out of high school, and he transferred to
• 1:10:35
  Florida State. Where he has been, and if you
• 1:10:40
  just look at the stats, his stats are not eye popping at
• 1:10:44
  all. I think he's got 11 tackles this
• 1:10:47
  year. He's got 11 tackles, half of a
• 1:10:49
  sack. Last year he had about 47
• 1:10:54
  tackles and 9 sacks. The reason that his stats are
• 1:10:58
  not eye popping this year, it's kind of like we talked about
• 1:11:01
  before we came on. People are running away from
• 1:11:04
  him. Don't let them stats fool you.
• 1:11:06
  If you go watch him on tape, he is very disruptive.
• 1:11:08
  Brian, what you got on Jared Burst?
• 1:11:11
  Yeah, he's that Fox DN. They use him to set the edge
• 1:11:14
  rush the pastor on the on the stunt looks usually in the stand
• 1:11:19
  up position. He will put his hand in the dirt
• 1:11:22
  though. Use him a lot to play games with
• 1:11:25
  the alvens of line and quarterback.
• 1:11:27
  Get them confused, getting them thinking, getting the
• 1:11:30
  quarterback speed up a little bit.
• 1:11:32
  I mean he's all about controlling the gap at the run
• 1:11:34
  game versus penetrating. He's not a guy that's going to,
• 1:11:37
  you know, fly out field or anything like that, but he's
• 1:11:39
  going to hold his gap play pretty, pretty sound technique
• 1:11:44
  and he's really good at really doing all those things.
• 1:11:47
  Probably the best overall defensive player arguably in the
• 1:11:50
  conference. Like you said, he doesn't
• 1:11:53
  necessarily jump off of the stat sheet, but when he's on the
• 1:11:56
  field you you find him, he jumps off the off the tape real quick.
• 1:12:03
  Yeah, Boston College, when you looked at that game, they
• 1:12:06
  essentially had success running away from him, getting the ball
• 1:12:09
  outside of him, kind of taking away his ability to impact the
• 1:12:13
  running game. And they will occasionally use
• 1:12:16
  him in coverage. They'll call some some zone
• 1:12:18
  blitzes and he'll be out there in the flats or covering a guy
• 1:12:21
  one-on-one. So look for that as well and
• 1:12:23
  it's and it's funny because you know Tally, you talked about him
• 1:12:27
  being in Albany and again it's that it's the portal thing.
• 1:12:30
  We keep talking about it, we keep talking about it, we keep
• 1:12:32
  harping on it. If you go look up right now, the
• 1:12:35
  NFL draft Jared verse is going to be taken really high next
• 1:12:39
  year, really high. So at all different levels
• 1:12:43
  there, these guys just waiting, go find them.
• 1:12:46
  And you know, obviously, I think with some of our coaches
• 1:12:51
  especially like the Lackawanna Connections and guys who have
• 1:12:54
  coached all over the country over their careers, we do have
• 1:12:57
  that opportunity. All right, Brian, I'm going to
• 1:13:00
  pitch it to you next. Let's talk about Kaylin Deloach,
• 1:13:04
  linebacker, 6 foot 226 pounds out of Savannah, GA and Allen's
• 1:13:11
  high school. Now he was an original commit to
• 1:13:14
  Florida State back in 2019 and a pretty highly rated, wasn't it,
• 1:13:17
  That was the top 247 player, Composite 91.
• 1:13:22
  And I mean, look at his offer list, it's unreal.
• 1:13:24
  Florida State, Auburn, MI, Alabama, Clemson SC.
• 1:13:28
  I could go on and on and if you take a look at some of the guys
• 1:13:32
  that were his primary recruiters, Kevin Steele, Don
• 1:13:37
  Brown when he was a DC, Michigan.
• 1:13:39
  Pete Golden, the old DC Bama, Brent Venables at Clemson, they
• 1:13:44
  didn't put their trash on him. They put their number one guys
• 1:13:48
  to recruit this kid and Brian. Tell us a little bit more about
• 1:13:51
  Caitlin. Yeah.
• 1:13:53
  So he's going to be the second hybrid player on this defense.
• 1:13:56
  It's on this list that we're talking about right now.
• 1:13:58
  So he's the he's the stud linebacker primarily aligns to
• 1:14:03
  to the field side of the formation.
• 1:14:06
  A typical you know run like a linebacker cover like a DB type
• 1:14:10
  build that you like to see. When he's on the nub side, he'll
• 1:14:16
  be in the box and. That likes to walk out on the
• 1:14:21
  wide receiver playing that field side and when he's lot, you
• 1:14:25
  know, wide, he becomes a fourth, fourth player in the defense and
• 1:14:28
  they use him a lot heavy and blitzes from that position.
• 1:14:32
  But also he's really good in coverage as well.
• 1:14:35
  And he's having himself a really good season, statistical wise,
• 1:14:37
  to 17 total tackles, 10 solo, 3 sacks and another tackle and 1/2
• 1:14:44
  for loss, along with a forced fumble and a forced fumble
• 1:14:48
  return for a touchdown, 56 yards.
• 1:14:51
  Tells you the kid is super athletic.
• 1:14:52
  All right, we're going to hit one more player on the defensive
• 1:14:56
  side of the ball, and that is a here Thomas the defensive back,
• 1:15:03
  another straight up Florida State player.
• 1:15:05
  And this kid is one of these elites.
• 1:15:07
  He's a class of 2022. He was a top 100 player.
• 1:15:12
  He rated at a 96. Same way you look at his offer
• 1:15:15
  list, it's all over the place. It's just about every school you
• 1:15:19
  can think of. He was a stud coming out of high
• 1:15:22
  school and obviously if we're mentioning it here, he's been in
• 1:15:25
  college for what, two years and he's already making a pretty big
• 1:15:29
  impact. Brian, what do you got to take
• 1:15:31
  about this 6 foot, 280 plus pound defensive back?
• 1:15:38
  Yeah, he lines up as their field corner primarily.
• 1:15:41
  He's really the best cover corner on the team.
• 1:15:43
  There's really not a close comparison, Holds up really well
• 1:15:48
  in man, end zone, willing tackler, nothing to write home
• 1:15:52
  about. But you know he's not afraid to
• 1:15:54
  get his head in there and and and get guys down in the run
• 1:15:56
  game. Sometimes I'd say he's too
• 1:15:59
  reliant on his instincts, but when they pay off, he's in there
• 1:16:04
  making a big play, whether it's a breakup.
• 1:16:07
  Getting an interception, whatever it may be.
• 1:16:09
  He does a really good job of trusting his instincts and and
• 1:16:12
  making those type of plays very nice.
• 1:16:14
  Yeah, and you talk about the past breakups.
• 1:16:16
  He's already got four and four games this year, so he is
• 1:16:19
  definitely Johnny on the spot. Sheldon, you've got a couple
• 1:16:22
  data points you want to give about this defense in general.
• 1:16:25
  What is some of the deeper data points telling us?
• 1:16:29
  Sure. So the biggest red flag for for
• 1:16:32
  the state they ranked 111th and Rush Defense EPA.
• 1:16:36
  So. They had a pretty porous rush
• 1:16:38
  defense overall. Now their past defense, which
• 1:16:43
  I'm looking at the numbers here, is much better.
• 1:16:45
  Their 21st and past defense, just the the EPA.
• 1:16:48
  So the analytical stuff. So run defense is good or excuse
• 1:16:52
  me, run defense is poor, Pass defense is very good.
• 1:16:54
  I think the biggest thing that stuck out to me when looking at
• 1:16:56
  Florida State, they are not elite at really anything, but
• 1:17:01
  they're pretty much good at everything.
• 1:17:03
  So I think that's to me that's a testament of coaching.
• 1:17:06
  Like when you look across the board there's nothing that they
• 1:17:08
  really dominate but they're just consistently thought of almost
• 1:17:11
  every position group and every, every unit.
• 1:17:14
  It's just it's it's not it's a team that that just doesn't have
• 1:17:18
  a lot of holes. So and you can you can tell why
• 1:17:21
  they're so successful. They just, they just do
• 1:17:23
  everything pretty, pretty solid and that's why they're they're
• 1:17:26
  so tough to be. Yeah, in, in, in Shelton, you
• 1:17:29
  looked at some of the deeper data and I looked at some of the
• 1:17:31
  old school data. The yards are true.
• 1:17:35
  They are 95th in the country in total defense.
• 1:17:37
  They are giving up about 400 yards a game.
• 1:17:40
  And then you take a look at scoring defense, 52nd, 3rd down,
• 1:17:47
  conversion, 49th. That's middle of the pack.
• 1:17:49
  There are two places they excel, though, that I consider
• 1:17:52
  excelling. It's in their top.
• 1:17:53
  They're in the top 20 Sachs per game, obviously.
• 1:17:56
  Jared Verse, you mentioned him there.
• 1:17:58
  Couple other good players and the other one is red Zone D They
• 1:18:02
  are in the top 20 in that they are giving up less touchdowns or
• 1:18:08
  they're giving up less red zone scores than by 11 out of 17.
• 1:18:12
  So that means you get down there, it's not guaranteed.
• 1:18:15
  And if you take a look at the sack numbers, it kind of makes
• 1:18:17
  sense also with the turnover numbers as well.
• 1:18:21
  All righty boys, we're going to get into the keys now and I'm
• 1:18:25
  going to pitch to each one of y'all because I think we are
• 1:18:28
  consensus on this. For the Hokies to win this game,
• 1:18:31
  it's going to have to be a perfect game.
• 1:18:33
  Florida State is a elite. I mean, this year, an elite
• 1:18:37
  team. Do they have some flaws?
• 1:18:39
  Yeah, they do. So Tally, I'm going to pitch to
• 1:18:44
  you first. What is one of the Hokie key of
• 1:18:47
  the biggest Hokie key for you? For me, I'll say just getting
• 1:18:50
  drones in space. You know, letting him be
• 1:18:52
  himself, you know, get roll out the pocket RPO's, bootlegs,
• 1:18:59
  they're going to have to move that that pocket around because
• 1:19:03
  he's going to have pressure coming from everywhere.
• 1:19:06
  So that's going to be my biggest key.
• 1:19:08
  All right, Sheldon, what about you?
• 1:19:13
  Man, I would say stay on schedule.
• 1:19:20
  Florida State is just again look at the numbers here.
• 1:19:23
  So they are actually not great defensively on 1st and 2nd down
• 1:19:26
  in terms of success rate. So if you can, you know stay
• 1:19:30
  ahead of the stakes, get them on 1st and 2nd, you know that'll
• 1:19:33
  set you up in a good spot. I think for me, you know people
• 1:19:36
  often talk about third down conversion percentage and well I
• 1:19:40
  do think it's a valuable stat. I think it's a lot, a lot of
• 1:19:43
  times disinterpreted. The the teams that the best
• 1:19:46
  teams, the best offices are the ones that are successful on 1st
• 1:19:49
  and 2nd down. It's not about third down.
• 1:19:51
  You want to avoid third down. You want to be successful on 1st
• 1:19:53
  and 2nd so you can set yourself up ideally for you know easier
• 1:19:59
  third downs. So that's one area where firstly
• 1:20:01
  struggles. I think if tech can, you know,
• 1:20:04
  get the running in going and and be successful in those really
• 1:20:06
  downs, they'll be in a pretty good spot.
• 1:20:10
  Ron, what about you? Yeah, I think the big thing for
• 1:20:14
  me is forced turnovers against this team.
• 1:20:18
  If we can force them to turn the ball over, then I think that's
• 1:20:22
  going to set us up and put us in a good position.
• 1:20:24
  They haven't really turned the ball over that much all season.
• 1:20:27
  3 total turnovers. I think we need to get two in
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  this game to really have a chance to be competitive as we
• 1:20:34
  get down the stretch there in the in the fourth quarter so we
• 1:20:37
  can turn them over twice. We can put ourselves to be
• 1:20:40
  competitive towards the end. If not, it might be a long
• 1:20:42
  contest. It might be if that's the case,
• 1:20:45
  and I'm going to kind of piggyback, and this is both on
• 1:20:47
  the desensive side of this is on the defensive side of the ball
• 1:20:49
  as well. Keep them in front of you, keep
• 1:20:52
  them in front of you. They are obviously a big pass
• 1:20:55
  play team. You can see with Coleman's
• 1:20:57
  numbers, you can see with the averages, like Shelton talked
• 1:20:59
  about there with Johnny Wilson and where, how deep down the
• 1:21:03
  field he's catching the ball, you've got to force them to
• 1:21:06
  drive. It can't be one or two big plays
• 1:21:10
  and they're in scoring range. It's got to be 7-8 plays.
• 1:21:15
  It's got to be 4 to 7 yards to play, not ten to 15.
• 1:21:20
  We've got to keep them in front of us.
• 1:21:22
  Now, you know, I also, you know here in Shelton talk about some
• 1:21:26
  of the stuff he's talked about too.
• 1:21:29
  And knowing that some of their data is they do have some
• 1:21:32
  struggles. How tough is it going to be?
• 1:21:35
  What are we going to have to do? Because I'm one of these.
• 1:21:38
  This is this goes back to the old days of Georgia Tech.
• 1:21:41
  I I I'd rather live by death from 1000 cuts and just get
• 1:21:44
  bludgeoned real quick. Give me some hope.
• 1:21:47
  Give me some hope. Keep the explosive plays away.
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  but Brian did not. So is what it is.
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  early. You did, you called it Tally.
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  We'll start with you. What's your prediction on the
• 1:23:32
  hokey game? And you know, since we're doing
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  a point spread, what's point spread for the hokey game run
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  right now? 25 When we picked it was a. 2424
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  OK, so tally who wins, What's the score and do the hokeys
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  cover? I got the I got the hokeys
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  covering in this game, I think. I think I'm right at what,
• 1:23:53
  404221? Something like that.
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  I got the hokeys covering but. Florida State taking it if you
• 1:24:01
  go on money line. All right.
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  Brian, what about you? I'm right there with Tally.
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  I've got the the Seminoles winning.
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  I got the Hokies covering. I think it's going to be closer
• 1:24:15
  than a lot of people think. I think we're going to get a
• 1:24:18
  couple things that go our way. I think we're going to let let
• 1:24:21
  our nuts hang as a staff and as a team a little bit.
• 1:24:24
  Put it all out there. Because why not?
• 1:24:26
  It's FSU. But I think, I think it's going
• 1:24:31
  to be around A3828 win for the Seminoles.
• 1:24:35
  All right, tell them. What about you?
• 1:24:37
  Give me the Hokies. I just got a gut feel they might
• 1:24:41
  get a late touchdown back door cover.
• 1:24:43
  I'll. I'll take the Hokies.
• 1:24:45
  All righty FSU winning, though, right?
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  Or Hokies winning. Yeah.
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  FSU winning. Yes.
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  Yes. OK, OK.
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  OK, I don't want people to be screaming at you next week.
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  You said the hoagies are going to win like.
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  We already had that week one guys.
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  We had that week 1, All right, I am with y'all.
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  I think FSU is going to win the game.
• 1:25:11
  I've got 4127, so I do have BT covered.
• 1:25:15
  I think it's going to be a more exciting game.
• 1:25:19
  I think it's going to be one of those games.
• 1:25:20
  We're going to the fourth quarter, We're going to be down
• 1:25:23
  like 10, maybe 14 and and they're going to put us away.
• 1:25:28
  But we're going to probably spring back and get one
• 1:25:31
  additional score to make it look a little bit better than what it
• 1:25:33
  should be. This is like a litmus test game,
• 1:25:36
  right? You're playing one of the best
• 1:25:38
  teams in the country. You're playing in their house.
• 1:25:41
  How do you stack up? How do you stack up?
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  I look forward to seeing it 3:30 on Saturday afternoon.
• 1:25:51
  And now we've got our big screeners, and I'm leaving this
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  one off because it's always I'm not going to be able to see it
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  because of course we've got baseball.
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  But the Red River Shootout? Yes, the Red River Shootout.
• 1:26:03
  It's always be the Red River Shootout.
• 1:26:05
  Never The Red River Rivalry. Oklahoma, Texas, Texas, laying 6
• 1:26:10
  1/2 points and I'm going Oklahoma 49.
• 1:26:14
  Nothing last year. I think it's going to stick in
• 1:26:16
  Chris Venables head. I, Brian, didn't change that
• 1:26:18
  shit. I told you change that shit.
• 1:26:20
  Pay attention to the text messages.
• 1:26:22
  So Oklahoma plus 6 1/2. I called his ass out.
• 1:26:28
  I I forgot how bad last year was.
• 1:26:30
  I was. OK, OK, I must have looked at
• 1:26:34
  the wrong text man. I did see him sending that text.
• 1:26:37
  I thank you, Charlie. I sent Texas originally.
• 1:26:39
  I said you know what that blow out last year that don't sit
• 1:26:43
  right. Venables ain't gonna let them
• 1:26:44
  get blown out again. Oklahoma.
• 1:26:49
  It's all right. We we can tell you how I'm post
• 1:26:51
  editing. We'll take it out.
• 1:26:52
  Yeah. Who's got it next?
• 1:26:54
  Sheldon? No, no, no.
• 1:26:55
  Excuse me, Tally, who you got in this?
• 1:26:56
  Game. You can move that Texas right
• 1:26:58
  over to my name cuz I got Texas. I got Texas winning and covered
• 1:27:02
  in that game. All right.
• 1:27:04
  What about you, Sheldon? Yeah give me Texas.
• 1:27:07
  I just I really like their team and they're they keep rising in
• 1:27:11
  the in the metrics. I just I'm I'm I'm loving Stark.
• 1:27:14
  So I'll take Texas. Well, apparently I went with
• 1:27:18
  Curtis unknowingly here because I I got the Sooners keeping this
• 1:27:21
  closer than I think a lot of people think.
• 1:27:23
  I think it's going to come down to one of those those last drive
• 1:27:26
  deals. I think they keep it close about
• 1:27:28
  a three-point win for Texas. So I think they end up, you
• 1:27:31
  know, winning it out, right? But oh, you going to keep it
• 1:27:35
  close there? Alrighty.
• 1:27:37
  Well, let's next go to Louisville.
• 1:27:40
  I think Tally chose this game not only because it's going to
• 1:27:43
  be a good game, probably, but he's heading there in about a
• 1:27:45
  month. I'm not going anymore.
• 1:27:48
  What happened? I just got too much to do, man.
• 1:27:51
  And and and we was, and we was horrible at the beginning of the
• 1:27:54
  year. So I counseled my room and had
• 1:27:57
  to do some other stuff. We got $1600 just going to
• 1:28:01
  baseball for my son, for high school baseball.
• 1:28:03
  So I was like, yeah, we need to calm down a little bit.
• 1:28:06
  All right, well, tally, what you got here?
• 1:28:08
  Notre Dame laying 6 1/2 a home. Or excuse me, a road favorite.
• 1:28:12
  I got Notre Dame, man. I got Notre Dame winning this
• 1:28:15
  thing and covering again. I just, they played a lot of
• 1:28:20
  close games. But I just think that, you know,
• 1:28:23
  Louisville is they're going to catch up to Louisville on this
• 1:28:25
  one and and they're going to win.
• 1:28:27
  And I say they went about about win about 10 points, something
• 1:28:31
  like that 10 point win there. Alrighty.
• 1:28:36
  Who next to Shelton who you got in this game?
• 1:28:40
  Yes, I will go Louisville. I think Notre Dame's coming off
• 1:28:44
  a very emotional win. They're going to have a little
• 1:28:47
  bit of let down. Give me the cards to cover.
• 1:28:51
  All righty. Who's next here?
• 1:28:53
  Brian, you are next on this one. It's got to be Notre Dame, man.
• 1:28:59
  You know, looking at this team, I, I, I know they played a
• 1:29:01
  couple close games, but I think Louisville got shown for what
• 1:29:05
  they were last week and I think we're going to see more of that
• 1:29:08
  this week. Notre Dame.
• 1:29:10
  That right there. That right there is exactly why
• 1:29:14
  it's Notre Dame lay the six and a half.
• 1:29:18
  Louisville got shown a lot plumber came tumbling back to
• 1:29:22
  earth against NC State and if NC State had a decent quarterback,
• 1:29:27
  they would have beat them by multiple touchdowns.
• 1:29:29
  I think Notre Dame, yes, it was Sheldon, you're right.
• 1:29:31
  It was an emotional victory because it was a some crazy
• 1:29:35
  things that happened at the end of that game against Duke.
• 1:29:38
  But I think this is going to be 1 where for the first time all
• 1:29:42
  year Notre Dame isn't going to see an opposing defense like the
• 1:29:47
  likes of the way Dukes coached to be so fun, sound, sound
• 1:29:50
  fundamentally and nowhere near the talent that Ohio State has.
• 1:29:55
  All right, who we got, Brian, you got the next one.
• 1:29:58
  You got Maryland and Ohio State. This is a massive line of Ohio
• 1:30:03
  State laying 20 points. Yeah, this is one that I
• 1:30:09
  couldn't wait to get on there. You know, Maryland's looks
• 1:30:11
  pretty good overall at this point in the season.
• 1:30:15
  Ohio State's been kind of up and down.
• 1:30:17
  That 20 just was a little too much for me.
• 1:30:19
  So give me Maryland to cover here.
• 1:30:23
  All righty. I'm on the opposite side of you.
• 1:30:25
  Give me the Buckeyes and lay the 20.
• 1:30:29
  I feel like a Maryland defense is going to be a get right game
• 1:30:33
  for Ohio State's offense. I mean, I know Ohio State will
• 1:30:36
  give up a few points here and there, but it's to me, it's
• 1:30:40
  good. The usual Maryland show, the
• 1:30:41
  first time they have a big competitor they're going to,
• 1:30:44
  they're going to wither up in the face of adversity.
• 1:30:47
  So give me Ohio State tally, who you got on this one?
• 1:30:50
  We got two teams that I both hate, so I wish both of them
• 1:30:53
  could lose, but I'm going to take Maryland.
• 1:30:56
  I think Maryland's going to lose, but I don't think they're
• 1:30:59
  going to lose by more than 20 points.
• 1:31:01
  I think it may be a 14 point win for Ohio State.
• 1:31:04
  You know, somewhere around 1314 point win Alrighty, Sheldon.
• 1:31:09
  Given the Terps, I think they've got a really good offense.
• 1:31:12
  I love what Locksley's doing over there.
• 1:31:13
  He's got Josh Gaddis as his OC, who came over from Alabama and
• 1:31:17
  Miami. Really good, really good
• 1:31:19
  offensive mind. So I'll, I'll take Maryland.
• 1:31:22
  I just love their offense. Alrighty, there we go.
• 1:31:26
  We got a lot of three on ones, except for that Texas.
• 1:31:29
  Oh, you game. Let's go to Shelton's game of
• 1:31:32
  the week. Shelton, you've got Alabama and
• 1:31:35
  Texas A and M Alabama, a small Rd. favorite at 2 1/2.
• 1:31:39
  Who do you got in this one? I'll take Alabama at Texas A and
• 1:31:43
  M without their starting quarterback Wegman, who got
• 1:31:46
  injured well, a little while back.
• 1:31:49
  I think Alabama's gonna come with somebody approved, so I
• 1:31:51
  will take a mad Nick Saban team anytime, Brian.
• 1:31:56
  Yeah, I'm going Bama here. They're still in desperation
• 1:31:59
  mode They they still haven't quite figured it all out.
• 1:32:03
  But I think with what what's going on at A and MI think
• 1:32:07
  they're going to get have just enough to to to cover that 2
• 1:32:10
  1/2. We'll see.
• 1:32:11
  I'd say about a six, six to seven point win for the Crimson
• 1:32:15
  Tide here. Yeah, I'm with y'all, I'm with
• 1:32:18
  y'all Bam. That's a small number to lay,
• 1:32:22
  especially with the A and M starting quarterback out and
• 1:32:24
  with A and M the only to me, they they play 2 good teams.
• 1:32:29
  They beat Auburn, which the way Auburn played against Georgia
• 1:32:33
  last week. I'm I'm still trying to figure
• 1:32:34
  out that game and they played Miami and they got boat race
• 1:32:38
  starting in the second quarter to the rest of the game.
• 1:32:40
  So Alabama covers. I think they win by like 10
• 1:32:43
  plus. Tell them what about you?
• 1:32:46
  Yeah, I got Alabama, too. I think Alabama's got a similar
• 1:32:50
  I don't want to say so. They got a young quarterback,
• 1:32:53
  You know, they got a young quarterback that they got to run
• 1:32:55
  the right place for. Alabama fans have been so
• 1:33:00
  blessed to have Heisman Trophy after first round pick after
• 1:33:06
  Heisman Trophy. You know every year that they
• 1:33:08
  get a little bit adversity against a great Texas team, Man,
• 1:33:12
  Texas beat them about 10 points and they tried to change it up
• 1:33:14
  and then go back to their quarterback, which had a really
• 1:33:18
  good. Week last week, I think they're
• 1:33:20
  going to continue. They continue.
• 1:33:22
  Put them in the position to to be successful.
• 1:33:25
  They're going to be, they're going to be hard to beat.
• 1:33:28
  Alrighty. So those are our four big
• 1:33:30
  screeners and the one we always throw in here just for fun.
• 1:33:34
  This week we're going down to Athens.
• 1:33:36
  Between the hedges. Georgia and Kentucky, both
• 1:33:41
  undefeated, both ranked in the top 20.
• 1:33:43
  Kentucky coming off they beat the absolute piss out of
• 1:33:48
  Florida. Yeah, they did.
• 1:33:49
  I mean, I walked in and turned that game on after baseball, and
• 1:33:53
  it's like 28, three. It's just like, I thought
• 1:33:56
  Florida's supposed to be good. Billy Napier getting fired this
• 1:33:58
  year. I'm gonna go ahead and make that
• 1:33:59
  right there. All right, Sheldon.
• 1:34:02
  No, Brian, lead us off here. I think it's Bama, or excuse me,
• 1:34:05
  Georgia 14 1/2. What you got?
• 1:34:08
  I've got Kentucky covered this one.
• 1:34:10
  I think this is going to be a little bit closer than folks
• 1:34:13
  think. I think it's going to be about a
• 1:34:14
  10 point game. I think Georgia is a very, very,
• 1:34:18
  very good team, but they're not a blow the doors off.
• 1:34:22
  A team is playing as well as Kentucky is right now.
• 1:34:24
  Type team yet I don't think they're that good but with it
• 1:34:28
  being in Athens I've I've got to give Georgia the benefit of the
• 1:34:31
  doubt. I think they win this game by
• 1:34:33
  about 17. I'll lay the 14 1/2 with Georgia
• 1:34:40
  tally. I'm going to go Kentucky, man,
• 1:34:43
  Georgia's been. Georgia's been a little suspect,
• 1:34:46
  man, with everybody they played. They kind of, you know, just
• 1:34:49
  been slipping by. So I think that Georgia, you
• 1:34:52
  know, it's going to be similar to the game they were, they
• 1:34:54
  played Auburn this week or last week, you know, going to be a
• 1:34:58
  late touchdown for the win for them.
• 1:35:01
  So I think Georgia wins, but they don't cover.
• 1:35:03
  Georgia wins, they don't cover. Sheldon, what about you?
• 1:35:07
  Yes, give me Georgia. Kentucky coming off a big win
• 1:35:11
  last week. Georgia coming off a tough,
• 1:35:13
  close win. Last week as well.
• 1:35:17
  I think those fortunes are going to reverse.
• 1:35:19
  And I'm going to take the dogs. Big dogs.
• 1:35:22
  Big in Athens. Alrighty.
• 1:35:26
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• 1:35:47
  after a a big win like that, so everything tastes better,
• 1:35:51
  everything sound better, it's. True, man.
• 1:35:54
  It's just good to get a win, man.
• 1:35:56
  It's good to get a win. And you know what?
• 1:35:58
  It's good to get a win like that, though.
• 1:36:01
  Oh yeah, it's it's the win like that.
• 1:36:03
  Because Tally's been mentioned in big losses, small losses,
• 1:36:10
  little wins, then big wins, well, we jumped up and we went
• 1:36:14
  big win 17 points. I mean there was a 14 point game
• 1:36:18
  out of the third quarter, only considered a blowout but went
• 1:36:21
  about 17 against anybody still good.
• 1:36:25
  It could have been a blowout. We were this close to a blowout
• 1:36:28
  if we didn't had that 5 minute fuck up, five second fuck up.
• 1:36:31
  But yeah, it's always that good feeling.
• 1:36:34
  So anything else to add Shelton Tally, Brian?
• 1:36:41
  I'm just going to say like, like Curtis said last week, man,
• 1:36:44
  Coach had to let his nuts hang on somebody's face and I'm glad
• 1:36:48
  it was Nardooshi. So good job, coach.
• 1:36:51
  Yes, I did say that tally was the only one.
• 1:36:54
  To hang the nuts on the face, there was tea baggery in the BC.
• 1:36:59
  P Tell me last week, if we win, if we be far the state, I will
• 1:37:03
  post that clip everywhere. Curtis, you will be famous.
• 1:37:09
  Listen, I already had like 3 people text me this week.
• 1:37:11
  Like did you say he's muffled somebody's face?
• 1:37:14
  Like, yes, I did. All right, well, that is going
• 1:37:18
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• 1:38:11
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• 1:38:15
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