Latest / Straumann® ProTalk / Clinical edition: Intraoral scanning as the foundation of modern digital dentistry with Dr. Kimberly Schlam
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- 0:00For myself, I could not imagine going back to analog workflows.
- 0:03There are so many touch points, and in your point of view, what is in
- 0:08reality the most essential steps that you would consider in the office?
- 0:11Intraoral scanning.
- 0:12I think that's the door opener.
- 0:13That's the door opener, of course, a 3D radiograph, CBCT, things of that nature.
- 0:18And then now really with overlapping a scan of the face or a 2D photo is really
- 0:24changing how we can view our patient.
- 0:41Ever wondered if digital dentistry is making us, in fact, better clinicians?
- 0:46The way I see it, it changed everything for better the way we plan and execute
- 0:51our cases to how we communicate with our patients and our peers in each
- 0:55time, more and more multidisciplinary approach in our practice.
- 1:00Today, I'm joined by Dr. Kim Schlam from the United States.
- 1:04She's a passionate advocate about digital technologies, and she's
- 1:07been roaming the world, teaching clinicians and helping them achieve
- 1:12precision and efficiency without losing what makes our work truly special.
- 1:17The human factor, right?
- 1:19That's right.
- 1:20Dr. Schlam, thank you for joining us on Straumann ProTalk Clinical.
- 1:23Thank you so much.
- 1:24I appreciate the kind of invitation.
- 1:26First things first.
- 1:28Speaking of digital workflows, and I said you are an ambassador.
- 1:32I'm curious in your perception, digital workflows are a trend or a
- 1:37real shift in modern implantology.
- 1:39It's a great question because there's so many new technologies that come
- 1:42out and it's easy to think that these things are fads, and maybe I'll try
- 1:46this and try that, but for myself, I could not imagine going back.
- 1:49To analog workflows?
- 1:51I would say that it's it's changed not just the experience for myself, for my
- 1:55fellow team members, but my patients.
- 1:57In terms of is it going to change, I think it's gonna keep becoming more and
- 2:00more digital with the predictability of our results and just the efficiency we
- 2:04can have, and again, truly communicate with our partners in a multidisciplinary
- 2:08way as well as our patients.
- 2:11If you could pick one or all of the above, which one do you think it makes?
- 2:16The highest impact?
- 2:18The efficiency, the accuracy or even patients with gag reflex, for example?
- 2:23Yes.
- 2:23Yes.
- 2:23That the patient experience matter equally as the treatment?
- 2:26Absolutely.
- 2:26I think I'm torn.
- 2:28I have two, so I argue that I, the two are very important for me, but the intraoral
- 2:32scanning aspect, I think at this point in dentistry, we can offer something better.
- 2:37Than how we used to do it.
- 2:38And I think that intraoral scanning again, it's quick, if you have a
- 2:42mistake, you can redo it easily allows overlap of our bone scans.
- 2:46And so yeah just really has changed the game on how we can prototype restorations
- 2:51and come up with a clean and easy result.
- 2:53And when we say digital work flows right, there are so many touch points.
- 3:00And in your point of view, what are.
- 3:02What is in reality, the most essential steps that you would consider in
- 3:06the office if somebody would like to start investing now, for example?
- 3:09Yes.
- 3:10So I think as I mentioned, my favorite intraoral scanning.
- 3:13I think that's the door opener.
- 3:15That's the door opener.
- 3:15And it's almost once you have that, you are now connected
- 3:17to so many other technologies.
- 3:19Once you have that model digital that you become, then, a bigger
- 3:23partner in the team approach because now you can start to overlap that
- 3:27data and see more diagnostically.
- 3:28So intraoral scanning, of course A 3D radiograph, CBCT, things of that nature.
- 3:34And then now really with overlapping a scan of the face or a 2D photo
- 3:39is really changing how we can view our patient from a truly facially
- 3:43generated treatment planning standpoint.
- 3:46And I'll be curious, as you said from the facial perspective speaking of certain
- 3:51scanning options and simulating, because we used to assemble all our cases in
- 3:57semi adjustable articulators, right?
- 3:58And we see all the chewing.
- 4:00Possibilities and how this will play a role into how fast the wearing or
- 4:05certain curves should be structured.
- 4:08Is this reproducible as well in digital workflow?
- 4:11Yeah, I think now we have the ability to put everything in the digital workflow,
- 4:15which I didn't truly jump on board before and now I think we're there.
- 4:19We absolutely can.
- 4:21Can design things in the patient's anatomy.
- 4:24And I think what this does is it leads to another level of rehabilitation.
- 4:28It's not just replacement of teeth.
- 4:29It is truly oral rehabilitation in the highest degree.
- 4:34And now going back to my second question when I said, what are the
- 4:38digital touch points, because it can be a very broad word, right?
- 4:42Digital workflow, yes.
- 4:44But it can start with a scan and it can lead you to.
- 4:48Print something prior to surgical procedures.
- 4:51What are the definitions and that.
- 4:53That you think it's more valuable to clinicians to pay attention
- 4:57or all of the above again?
- 4:58Yes.
- 4:58Hard to answer.
- 4:59I think I started with Intraoral scanning and the coDiagnostiX® having the 3D
- 5:04planning for my implant surgeries.
- 5:06So I think that was my first jump into digital.
- 5:09And now we have the ability to pre-plan the entire case before surgery, meaning
- 5:15that we can then acquire a scan the day of surgery and fabricate the teeth
- 5:19with my own printer in my little lab.
- 5:21Clinic the exact same day.
- 5:23And this concept of retrofitting prosthetics and things of that nature,
- 5:28I just, the inaccuracies with that.
- 5:30So I just feel that now that we have digital, we really can give the patient
- 5:34what we've discussed ahead of time.
- 5:36So it's a beautiful process.
- 5:37It, as we evolve into the definitive prosthetics, we can print new prototypes.
- 5:42This is cost effective for the clinician in private practice.
- 5:45Easy for the technician to update.
- 5:47So I think, yeah, it becomes a really nice process throughout the whole experience.
- 5:52And an easy way to take care of the patient in the future
- 5:54because now we have the data.
- 5:56We actually can see everything we did along the way is like cookie crumbs
- 5:59back to their initial pre-planning.
- 6:01So it's all there.
- 6:02Not a bunch of models in boxes.
- 6:04Exactly.
- 6:04We can get rid of those.
- 6:06It's very interesting you say that because.
- 6:08I had this conversation with Herman Gallucci from Harvard, right?
- 6:12Yes.
- 6:12And we were discussing the role of digital technologies with more precise planning.
- 6:17Now we see structures in ways and dimensions and perspectives that we
- 6:21couldn't, I never anticipated 15 years back, I would see the way we can manage
- 6:26all those structures and plan better.
- 6:28Place implants more precisely the assertiveness of certain procedures.
- 6:33And he was saying, Christian, I hope I'm still alive.
- 6:37To see the evidence 20 years from now to see the shift in success rates that he
- 6:44was driven by how more accurate and more.
- 6:47Better planning is that we were able to do with digital
- 6:51technology entering implantology.
- 6:53Isn't it amazing?
- 6:54And
- 6:54I agree because also we can be less invasive.
- 6:56It's much like medicine, right?
- 6:58What we do now, we can see so many things ahead of time that we couldn't see before.
- 7:02And I think that's the real success, is we can be less invasive.
- 7:05Yeah.
- 7:05More efficient, and actually have to do less procedures physically on the patient.
- 7:09The waste part is also really important.
- 7:11You talk about having.
- 7:12To hold onto models, we just have less physical waste as well.
- 7:16So I think that ultimately it, it just feels like I'm providing
- 7:20dentistry in a better way.
- 7:21And I like how he contextualized saying, we get that a lot.
- 7:25The question, if it's a trend, but 20 years from now we'll tell
- 7:28Yes, absolutely.
- 7:29Reflected
- 7:30on the benefits on a patient.
- 7:32The long-term
- 7:32results.
- 7:33Exactly
- 7:33right.
- 7:34Exactly.
- 7:34And if we shift, all right.
- 7:37It's not a trend.
- 7:38You're an advocate.
- 7:39If I walk into your office, yes, I know.
- 7:41There are many workflows that we can explore from single crowns,
- 7:45posterior and tear, and full arch as we discussed previously.
- 7:48If I walk in right now, I just stumble in it.
- 7:52Bang my tooth.
- 7:53You're please don't, on this microphone, what would you do to me?
- 7:59Yes.
- 8:00Yes.
- 8:00How would be my digital path in your practice?
- 8:02And I think that's a beautiful thing you highlighted.
- 8:04What would you do for me?
- 8:06And it's.
- 8:06It's what my team can do for you, because that's another beautiful
- 8:09part about being a business owner and a clinician, is I can delegate
- 8:12the capturing of a lot of the data.
- 8:14So I would bring you in and give you a nice tour of my office.
- 8:17We would start by acquiring some radiography and some photos.
- 8:21Then I can do a SMILE Cloud workup before I even meet you.
- 8:24So that's a beautiful thing about my team getting the
- 8:26photos and putting all that in.
- 8:27Smile cloud we have the radiographs.
- 8:30My team would also acquire the intraoral scans and then we can align all of that so
- 8:35I can truly get a picture of the patient before I even shake their hand, right?
- 8:38So it becomes, not only is it a nice, nicer experience for me, but when I
- 8:43go in that room, I have everything there to communicate properly.
- 8:46Because we say it, we've said it for years.
- 8:48A picture or a video now tells a thousand words.
- 8:52Yes.
- 8:52And so you just cannot communicate with other team members the same, or
- 8:56with your patients the same without something physical to show them.
- 8:59So I would show you your scans.
- 9:00We would talk about things that I saw, help you understand the treatment needs
- 9:04that you have, and help show you how we can get you to a successful result.
- 9:09So what do you think?
- 9:09Are you on board?
- 9:10Oh, I'm getting there.
- 9:11I.
- 9:15And then let's assume,
- 9:17yeah,
- 9:18I looked at everything and I, I. And I said, yes, let's do this.
- 9:22Yes.
- 9:22Okay, wonderful.
- 9:23What's next?
- 9:24What's next?
- 9:24So I would take your Intraoral scan and align it with your CBCT and coDiagnostiX®.
- 9:30Again, we would have your face aligned to design your smile if it
- 9:34included one or more than one teeth.
- 9:35And so we can pre-plan that whole case and.
- 9:38I don't do the surgical component myself.
- 9:40So we would engage this oral surgeon or the periodontist, depending
- 9:44on the team and our technician.
- 9:46So that's again the beautiful part about something like SMILE Cloud and AX S,
- 9:50where all the data is being shared in the same portal so we can have a true
- 9:54treatment planning discussion and plan out the entire surgery before it happens.
- 9:59Then we could design the guides.
- 10:00My technician could print the guides or I can print the guides.
- 10:03And then same thing with our same day restoration.
- 10:06That can be printed by my technician or myself, and then give you a
- 10:10protective appliance to wear and off you go for appropriate healing.
- 10:14But and then with the definitive restoration, same thing.
- 10:17You can just go back to that portal of data, take photos along the way, shade
- 10:21match things, all that information that we want to say directly to all the
- 10:25partners involved can be done through that portal in a very efficient way.
- 10:30I love how you just laid out at least six, seven touch points in which digital
- 10:36dentistry and technology is helping you be more efficient, not only more efficient,
- 10:41but to be more transparent in the communication with your patient as well.
- 10:45Yes.
- 10:46Let's shift gear a little bit.
- 10:47We have this sessions called, it's not what we think, it's what we know.
- 10:52And I would like to know from you if there was any article or case that you
- 10:58saw there was like it changed the way you think or how you do things that you think
- 11:03our audience should know about as well.
- 11:06Excellent.
- 11:07Yeah, I love this question.
- 11:08I'd been practicing implant dentistry for a long time, and I've always practiced
- 11:12as a multidisciplinary clinician.
- 11:13I just love a team.
- 11:15I love the shared win.
- 11:16And the article that really took that to the next level for me was Florin
- 11:20Cofar published and the Journal of Aesthetic Restorative Dentistry in
- 11:242002 about this multidisciplinary treatment and how we can get on the same.
- 11:29Page the same perspective as what he talks about.
- 11:32And he mentions how in the analog workflow, there's just no possible way
- 11:37to be reproducible in our techniques in this exact vision of the case where once
- 11:42we go digital and we align that data, we can all see that case to a deeper level.
- 11:47And do a deeper level of planning.
- 11:49So again, that concept of common perspective has really changed it for me.
- 11:53And we talked earlier about, reducing that friction to communication.
- 11:56I think that's, that hit it.
- 11:58It just sparked me and said, this is the way, this is how we're gonna do it.
- 12:02So getting all of our data collected, putting it all in one place, we
- 12:05can speak the same language and work through the case together.
- 12:09I love this very much, and I'm a witness of this because we had
- 12:13recently a few clinical validations with new Straumann products and the
- 12:18surgeries would take place in Brazil.
- 12:20Patient was assessed and was selected in Brazil.
- 12:24Data was captured, sent to Switzerland.
- 12:27Yes, we did Switzerland.
- 12:29In, in, in Germany.
- 12:31A whole bunch of back and forth in communication, all
- 12:34within one virtual place.
- 12:36Oh,
- 12:37it's wonderful.
- 12:38Guides and provisionals were printed in Spain and then all sent back to Brazil.
- 12:44So when I got there, everything was in one place.
- 12:47How could we have done that otherwise?
- 12:49Yeah, we just couldn't have done that level of expertise.
- 12:53I can log into a case.
- 12:54I can send it to you and get your opinion.
- 12:57It's just, yeah, it's truly changed everything for me and how I practice.
- 13:01And speaking of, it's not what we what we think.
- 13:04It's what we know.
- 13:05Speaking of knowing, we know that we don't know everything.
- 13:08That's true.
- 13:08That is true.
- 13:10And
- 13:10we also have this one session, it's called Experience Taught Me this.
- 13:15It hasn't been always sunshine and rainbows.
- 13:18No.
- 13:18You must have stumbled upon something on this path.
- 13:22And we have to be truthful and respectful of learning curve.
- 13:27Yes.
- 13:27In your digital.
- 13:29Technology learning curve.
- 13:32Have you stumbled upon something that was another aha moment that you say,
- 13:36now I have to tell everybody about this because so they don't do the same?
- 13:39Yes.
- 13:40Yeah.
- 13:40I think for me, because I am incorporating a lot of different technologies
- 13:44and overlapping a lot of pieces of data, I didn't quite appreciate the.
- 13:49Sequential errors that we make will add up depending on what we use.
- 13:54So if you choose the wrong technology for intraoral scanning and have a error
- 13:58of, a hundred microns or makeup based on the scanner, and now you're aligning
- 14:02that with the future product, you're gonna layer on the source of errors.
- 14:07But also in the beginning, I just probably didn't capture enough data.
- 14:11So I look back at some of my cases, take a full surgical case for example,
- 14:16full-arch replacement of teeth.
- 14:18I would maybe just capture the teeth in the scan and not necessarily get the
- 14:21outlying soft tissue or palatal rugae and things of that nature that are really
- 14:25helpful to pre-plan the case and then merge that data the day of surgery.
- 14:30So I think just didn't capture enough data.
- 14:32Probably in the beginning it is different than the analog world.
- 14:35You don't have it to hold in your hand.
- 14:36You have to rely on this very precise alignment.
- 14:39And if you don't, again, in the be beginning, I experienced some
- 14:42cants some midline shifting, all kinds of things you can imagine.
- 14:46But just really learning what part of each piece of equipment
- 14:49was going to create what error.
- 14:51And once you know that just like our old analog techniques where the stone
- 14:54is gonna change depending on how moist it is and things of that nature, we need
- 14:58to apply those same concepts at digital.
- 15:00So we're gonna have errors, right?
- 15:02It's still a piece of data, but the more we can pay attention and
- 15:05understand how to use that, yeah it's definitely a lot more fun now.
- 15:09And the beautiful thing about digital is if we don't do it the right way the
- 15:12first time, we can erase it and do it again very quickly and inexpensively.
- 15:16Just like pictures.
- 15:17Just like pictures, exactly.
- 15:20In the context, of course.
- 15:22It's the topic of today, right?
- 15:24The context of digital workflows.
- 15:25But we all have our little favorite things, right?
- 15:28Favorite movies, favorite songs or artists, and.
- 15:33Indications as well.
- 15:34I would like to know from you, Kimberly, the dentist, but also
- 15:39the person as that you're like.
- 15:42Yay.
- 15:42When that indication comes in, is it?
- 15:44Yes.
- 15:45Which ticks you the best?
- 15:47It's aesthetically challenging situation or full arch situation
- 15:52that what, tick you there.
- 15:54Yeah.
- 15:54I, all the dentistry that we do with implants is so challenging and exciting,
- 15:59but I'd say yeah, the full arch tooth replacement has got to be, one of
- 16:02the most exciting things we can do today, because I don't have this worry
- 16:06that it's not gonna come out nice.
- 16:08The day of surgery.
- 16:10This smile Design, smile cloud platform has given me the confidence to say,
- 16:15yep, I'm gonna show the patient this and I can actually achieve that.
- 16:18And so that gets me excited, right?
- 16:20I'm not terrified going into this very complex thing where I'm
- 16:23gonna take someone's teeth out.
- 16:24This is a big change for them.
- 16:26And instead I can.
- 16:27Rejuvenate them and rejuvenate myself and know that I'm gonna
- 16:30have predictability with that.
- 16:31Yeah.
- 16:32So yeah, the Smile Design software has just really changed
- 16:35my life and made so much fun.
- 16:37Again, with the communication aspect, I can show the patient something
- 16:41that we mutually understand, both the complications and the exciting
- 16:45parts of the case, and all go into it with that same end in mind.
- 16:50I couldn't agree more with you.
- 16:51It's, every situation has this very rewarding element, but taking
- 16:55somebody who's already at the edge of a very collapsed situation,
- 17:00functional, aesthetic, self-esteem, and you turn that upside down.
- 17:04Yeah, you change
- 17:05them, you change 'em as a human, they're back to being their best self, both
- 17:08socially and yeah, it's very exciting.
- 17:13Kimberly, it's really a joy to have you with us.
- 17:18I wish we had more time to do this, to do much longer.
- 17:21I have so much, so many other items that would like to pick your brain.
- 17:25But sadly we have to finish this to all of the clinicians out there who
- 17:31be interested to find you and know more about your work or educational
- 17:35opportunities where they can find you.
- 17:37Yes.
- 17:38So I'm on Instagram and pretty active there answering questions and
- 17:41helping share tips and techniques.
- 17:43So I do little videos in my clinic and I have my team members record those for me.
- 17:47So Dr. Skimm on Instagram.
- 17:49And then on my website, bend Prosthodontics.
- 17:52I'm in Bend, Oregon, so stop by.
- 17:53I'd love to take you to the mountain and do some skiing together.
- 17:56Oh,
- 17:56that's definitely.
- 17:59And to all of you out there, if this content was valuable to you,
- 18:03make sure you give it a because we need that, we need to be relevant.
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- 18:10And until the next episode,
- 18:14keep digital.
- 18:15Keep digital.
- 18:15Thank you.