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Credlin | 4 December · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peedo Krandland live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the program. Here's what's coming up
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Speaker 2: tonight on Kredline. Another betrayal by Labor of Israel at
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Speaker 2: the United Nations voting in favor of Palestinian statehood. Now
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Speaker 2: this is rank politics as Labour shamelessly chases votes in
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Speaker 2: the inner city and rewards barbaric terrorism. Surprise, surprise. The
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Speaker 2: BacT basics approach and educations delivered great results in Napland
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Speaker 2: for schools that have put a stop to the fads
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Speaker 2: of recent years.
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Speaker 3: So what exactly have they done?
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Speaker 2: Will speak to one of the experts leading the charge
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Speaker 2: in turning around Australia's declining results. Plus, the gloves are
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Speaker 2: wellatily off within labor over consternation Tanya Plever, Sex environmental
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Speaker 2: agender spreading now to the states Tasmania yesterday. Now it's
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Speaker 2: the WA Premier, a labor man, Roger Cook, who's the
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Speaker 2: latest to blast.
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Speaker 3: The minute And no matter how the.
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Speaker 2: Treasure tries to cut it, today's national accounts are grim
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Speaker 2: with unsustainable measures like government spending and sky high immigration.
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Speaker 2: About the only thing that's propping up the numbers.
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Speaker 4: There are families at the moment, who will go home
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Speaker 4: tonight sitting around a kitchen table, not knowing how they're
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Speaker 4: going to pay the power bill, not knowing whether they
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Speaker 4: can keep their insurance cover for their car or for
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Speaker 4: their business. And this is a tough time for Australian families.
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Speaker 4: And the government can sugarcoat all they want, but the
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Speaker 4: fact is, as the Reserve Bank governor keeps pointing out,
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Speaker 4: it's the government's reckless spending that drives up inflation and
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Speaker 4: therefore keeps interest rates higher for longer.
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Speaker 2: We're going to stay on the economy as the amin
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Speaker 2: easy government is limping into Christmas and an election of.
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Speaker 3: Course the new year.
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Speaker 2: More bad news today, undermining the relentlessly upbeat message of
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister and his ministers. Now upbeats one way
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Speaker 2: to describe it. I'll probably say it's head in the sand.
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Speaker 3: That's more accurate.
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Speaker 2: The latest set of numbers to demonstrate just how tough
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Speaker 2: things are at the moment, other national accounts than they
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Speaker 2: were out today. Now the national accounts matter because they
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Speaker 2: show how we're traveling as a country, whether we're going
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Speaker 2: forwards or backwards economically, and if we are going forward overall,
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Speaker 2: whether we're still going backwards as individuals because total wealth
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Speaker 2: is perhaps not increasing as fast as the population has.
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Speaker 2: It happened, today's national accounts show in mnemic growth just
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Speaker 2: zero point three percent for the September quarter, which means
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Speaker 2: an annual growth number of just under one percent point
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Speaker 2: eight percent over the past year. Note that GDP per
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Speaker 2: capita or growth per person, which is of course a
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Speaker 2: proxy for our living standards, that's also slumped I meaning
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Speaker 2: this is now the seventh successive quarter of negative growth
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Speaker 2: per person. That's a household recession that's now lasted for
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Speaker 2: almost two years. What's more, the little growth we did have,
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Speaker 2: again zero point three of a percent, was almost entirely
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Speaker 2: driven by government spending, So growth driven by your tax
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Speaker 2: dollars being spent by the politicians, with the federal government's
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Speaker 2: share of total GDP up to twenty eight percent, almost
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Speaker 2: six percentage points higher than at the start of the pandemic.
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Speaker 2: As one economist said of these figures and I quote,
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Speaker 2: they paint a picture of a sad economy without much hope. Still,
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Speaker 2: the self congratulations certainly flowed from the treasurer.
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Speaker 5: Rather avoid a hard landing than clean up after one
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Speaker 5: and we're seeing elements of a soft landing here and
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Speaker 5: that gives us encouragement that acknowledging people are still doing
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Speaker 5: it tough and growth is still weak in the economy.
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Speaker 5: If we'd made the sorts of decisions urged on us
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Speaker 5: by our opponents and our critics, growth would be weaker
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Speaker 5: and people would be getting less help and they'd be
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Speaker 5: worse off.
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Speaker 2: Fig Jam Jim, You know a treasure is desperate if
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Speaker 2: he's crowing about growth that isn't even at one percent.
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Speaker 2: But if the government's economic management is so good, how
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Speaker 2: come our real wealth per person is going backwards. Polling
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Speaker 2: out today from the Master Builders Association show the public
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Speaker 2: are just not buying labor spin and they don't think
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Speaker 2: that the bills rush through the Parliament last week will
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Speaker 2: make much material improvement. A nationwide survey had one in three,
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Speaker 2: let's write one in three Australians reporting that they'd gone
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Speaker 2: without essential items last year, such as food, medicine, and education,
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Speaker 2: in order to cover.
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Speaker 3: Their mortgage or red costs.
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Speaker 2: More than sixty percent of us think that cost of
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Speaker 2: living's the most important issue for the federal government, and
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Speaker 2: sixty eight percent of us say that housing costs or
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Speaker 2: that crisis has got worse over the past twelve months,
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Speaker 2: thirty nine percent saying that they are struggling to pay
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Speaker 2: their rent or their mortgage. Now this from a government
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Speaker 2: that made three big promises just to buy your vote.
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Speaker 2: The first that real wages would go up in the fact.
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Speaker 3: They've gone down.
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Speaker 2: Second, that your mortgage pay would ease in fact average
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Speaker 2: repayments have doubled. Perhaps most notoriously, Labor promised that its
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Speaker 2: renewables only electricity system would cut a power bill by
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Speaker 2: two hundred and seventy five dollars per household per year,
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Speaker 2: when in fact you don't need petikridline to.
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Speaker 3: Tell you this.
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Speaker 2: Prices are skyrocketed despite those massive taxpayer subsidies. But as
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Speaker 2: well as breaking promises, this is the government that's lost
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Speaker 2: its moral compass as well. It was Labour's greatest leader,
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Speaker 2: Bob Hawk, who said that if the bell tolls for Israel,
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Speaker 2: it tolls for all mankind. And yet in New York overnight,
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Speaker 2: the government has again voted against Israel at the United Nations,
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Speaker 2: rewarding terrorism, rewarding hostage taking by supporting Palestinian statehood, even
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Speaker 2: though none of the Palestinian leadership accepts Israel's right to exist.
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Speaker 2: This is a government's turned its back on the only
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Speaker 2: liberal democracy in the Middle East, partly because it's accepted
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Speaker 2: the cultural Marxist claptrap that Israel's tainted by white privilege
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Speaker 2: or set the privilege the most, particularly because cabinet ministers
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Speaker 2: are scared of the Islamist vote in their electorates, putting
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Speaker 2: crass politics ahead of their long term national.
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Speaker 3: Interests and values.
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Speaker 2: This is a betrayal of everything Australia has ever stood
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Speaker 2: for and it's a serious character failing in our national
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Speaker 2: leadership and the modern Labor Party today in the Australia.
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Speaker 2: Our foremost political commentator, Paul Kelly pointed out the obvious
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Speaker 2: that the Prime Minister to enlist many things the government's done,
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Speaker 2: but it can't answer the big question, have Labour's policies actually.
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Speaker 3: Improved your life?
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Speaker 2: There's little doubt that if there were an obvious sulternity
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Speaker 2: of to Anthony Albanezi, the PM would be in danger
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Speaker 2: for him his own caucus, not just the Australian Electric
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Speaker 2: but his main rival is a blow hard undergraduate treasurer
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Speaker 2: who thinks that establishing a productivity fund is how you
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Speaker 2: improve dismal productivity that establisher made in Australia fund it's
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Speaker 2: how you rescue manufacturing at the same time as the
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Speaker 2: government's pro union policies are killing productivity and the government's
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Speaker 2: emissions obsession is cripply manufacturing. Even so, there is clearly
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Speaker 2: to scent inside labor, with the Tasmanian labor leadership and
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Speaker 2: the AWU demanding that the government protect thousands of jobs
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Speaker 2: in the local salmon industry. Head of green fixations over
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Speaker 2: the fate of the scateefish in mcquarie Harbor, don't hold
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Speaker 2: your breath waiting for a decision. Given this government's fear
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Speaker 2: of the inner city Green vote, they're desperately trying to
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Speaker 2: put this decision off until after the election, in the
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Speaker 2: hope they hang on to the tazzy seat of Lions.
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Speaker 2: Now I've set it for some time, but today's national
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Speaker 2: accounts they confirm it. We are drifting backwards and we've
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Speaker 2: got a divided government in Canberra without the answers to
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Speaker 2: turn it around, all the depth on their front bench
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Speaker 2: to arrest the slide.
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Speaker 3: Right now, all they've.
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Speaker 2: Proven they can do is spend more of your money
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Speaker 2: badly and continue to divide Australians. Imagine if we had
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Speaker 2: these economic tooppy waters and Howard and Costello were in charge.
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Speaker 3: So different.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to Camber now for the Headlinesky and his
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Speaker 2: political reporter cam Reddin.
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Speaker 6: Australia has shifted its position in favor of recognizing a
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Speaker 6: Palestinian state, also calling for Israel's withdrawal from the occupied territories.
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Speaker 7: Our vote today reflects our determination that the international community
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Speaker 7: again work together.
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Speaker 6: One of three motions voted on calls for a conference
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Speaker 6: to be held next year on charting an irreversible pathway
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Speaker 6: to Palestinian statehood.
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Speaker 4: It's for votes. He sold the Jewish community out in
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Speaker 4: this country for green votes.
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Speaker 6: The United States opposed this recognition plan.
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Speaker 8: This is not going to encourage that strong closeness that
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Speaker 8: we need with our nearest ally when it comes to
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Speaker 8: the relationship we have to have, for example, negotiating tariffs
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Speaker 8: back home.
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Speaker 6: Economic growth continues to crawl, coming in lower than expected
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Speaker 6: for the September quarter.
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Speaker 5: It is a weaker economy than was anticipated.
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Speaker 6: The economy grew by just zero point three of a
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Speaker 6: percent for the quarter and point eight of a percent
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Speaker 6: for the year. Business groups say high levels of government
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Speaker 6: spending have knocked the economy out of whack. It's distorting
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Speaker 6: what you would normal call sort of normal economic practice.
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Speaker 9: This treasure will make stuff up because he's never understood
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Speaker 9: the economy.
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Speaker 6: The Commonwealth Bank has paused a plan to charge customers
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Speaker 6: for withdrawing cash, following a mass public backlash.
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Speaker 10: That your money, you shouldn't have to pay it. I
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Speaker 10: think it's elder abuse.
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Speaker 6: Treasurer Jim Chalmer's phone to the bank's chief executive, Matt Common,
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Speaker 6: demanding a rethink of its plan to impose three dollar
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Speaker 6: fees on withdrawals from a branch, post office or by phone.
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Speaker 5: Changes that were flagged yesterday were not acceptable. We're pleased
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Speaker 5: to see that the Commonwealth Bank agrees with that now.
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Speaker 6: Cameron Reddin's Sky News, Canberra.
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Speaker 3: Let's start with.
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Speaker 2: The international story today that Australia is once again split
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Speaker 2: from the United Nations and dubbed decades of bipartisanship on
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Speaker 2: Israel by voting in favor of you and resolution to
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Speaker 2: recognize Palestinian State and called for the withdrawal of Israel
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Speaker 2: from the occupied territories. Opposition leader Peter Dutton slammed the decision.
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Speaker 4: Not only did the Prime Minister promise to reduce the
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Speaker 4: cost of living and the cost of mortgages. He looked
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Speaker 4: people of Jewish faith in the eye before the election
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Speaker 4: and gave them a guarantee that there would be no
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Speaker 4: difference between the two parties, that there would be bipartisan
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Speaker 4: positions in relation to votes at the UN, and our
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Speaker 4: position with regard to Israel. They've completely abandoned the Jewish community.
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Speaker 2: Joining Mean now senior reporter, Senior reporter, Caroline Marcus Youth
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Speaker 2: Corp Senior writer, and Columbus Patrick Carline.
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Speaker 3: Thank you to you both. Patrick.
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Speaker 2: As I said, decades, seventy years or more, our position
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Speaker 2: on Israel with the Labor Party, the Liberal Party and
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Speaker 2: the Labor Party position was bipartisan. And yet in just
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Speaker 2: the last two years Alow, there has been this massive
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Speaker 2: split vote after vote taken by Labor in the UN.
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Speaker 2: It's blown apart all of that, and it was never
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Speaker 2: just closed to voters before the last election. Now, I
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Speaker 2: think in defense and foreign affairs, this sort of naked politicking,
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Speaker 2: it's reprehensible.
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Speaker 11: It is reprehensible.
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Speaker 10: Peter.
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Speaker 11: I mean, look, I mean, basically, you know, this has
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Speaker 11: been terrible all the way along since October seventh last year,
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Speaker 11: there's been a very weak response. It's been all about
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Speaker 11: the Muslim vote in the inner western suburbs of Sydney.
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Speaker 11: They've put the national interest way behind that that party
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Speaker 11: desire to actually say votes for an election, and that
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Speaker 11: is just shameful. You talked about Paul Kelly's column piece today,
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Speaker 11: his analysis of Alban Easy. He talked about him being
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Speaker 11: small and just sort of doing tactics rather than actually
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Speaker 11: having a strategy or actually having any conviction. And you
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Speaker 11: look back to some of the great prime ministers like
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Speaker 11: Bob Hawk or John Howard. They were conviction politicians and
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Speaker 11: we need a conviction leader now and we certainly haven't seen.
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Speaker 9: That, have we.
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Speaker 2: No, there's no statue with the Prime He's weakened. Is
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Speaker 2: a bit like a Wizard of Oz, you know, that
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Speaker 2: booming voice. All pretend to get behind the wizard, and
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Speaker 2: that's just a weak, little old man on his way out.
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Speaker 2: And that's what I feel like going into next year's election. Caroline,
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Speaker 2: You've had a story about a City University staff member
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Speaker 2: who posted threats online about a Jewish group, but also
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Speaker 2: skytt On New's host me included what's the latest there
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Speaker 2: well I.
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Speaker 10: Can reveal tonight, Peter.
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Speaker 12: The police have said that they are going to drop
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Speaker 12: their investigation into the Sydney University academic Joel Griggs, after
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Speaker 12: they determined that there was insufficient evidence to proceed with
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Speaker 12: any charges. We understand that they were looking at a
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Speaker 12: potential intimidation charge but felt it didn't meet that threshold.
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Speaker 12: Now I exposed this story yesterday about this the university
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Speaker 12: referring its own academic to police after a series of
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Speaker 12: threats were made against the Australian Jewish Socialia it's president
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Speaker 12: and another staff member. You can see one of the
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Speaker 12: tweets there, but he also mister Griggs made threats against
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Speaker 12: Sky News staff, including yourself, Peter.
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Speaker 10: I'm afraid to tell you. He said in.
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Speaker 12: One post that these traders scum should be put up
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Speaker 12: against the wall, and in another we'll get you one day,
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Speaker 12: you seditious traitors scum.
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Speaker 10: I was just doing my job.
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Speaker 12: Won't cut it when the Hoy poloy finally start lopping
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Speaker 12: off heads. So they sound like pretty serious threats. I
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Speaker 12: reached out to mister Griggs. He said they were hyperbole,
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Speaker 12: rhetorical flair. There was a lot of insult in even
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Speaker 12: his responses just to straightforward questions about these threats, but
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Speaker 12: whether or not police feel that they meet this threshold
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Speaker 12: for intimidation or potentially they could have looked at another
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Speaker 12: the criminal offensive using a carriage service to menace or
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Speaker 12: harass is one thing park that to one side. I
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Speaker 12: think what's extraordinary about the story is that the university
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Speaker 12: thought that they were serious and concerning enough to refer
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Speaker 12: to police, and yet they say they can't do anything
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Speaker 12: in the way of disciplinary action against this staff member
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Speaker 12: because these threats were made in a personal capacity, and
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Speaker 12: they also cited academic freedom.
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Speaker 10: I find that quite extraordinary.
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Speaker 12: Especially for an institution which is under such intense scrutiny
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Speaker 12: over its handling of anti Semitism, whose vice Chancellor Mark
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Speaker 12: Scott has himself admitted to failing Jewish staff and students.
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Speaker 12: For them to accept this kind of conduct from one
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Speaker 12: of their own academics.
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Speaker 2: I have to say, when the threats are you know,
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Speaker 2: we know where you leave, or won't be too hard
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Speaker 2: to find out where you leave. I think that was
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Speaker 2: a line and lopping off heads. I'll tell you what, Caroline,
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Speaker 2: if I was perhaps another race or another religion, I
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Speaker 2: wonder whether the police would drop it. I suspect Andrew
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Speaker 2: Bolton others feel the same way. Well, let's go to
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Speaker 2: that hoole by the Master Builders. I went through it
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Speaker 2: at the top of the show. We're falling behind, of course,
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Speaker 2: on the pledge to build over a million homes by
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty nine. I think we're twenty thousand behind where
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Speaker 2: we should be at this time in that timeline. But
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Speaker 2: in the poll, seventy percent of those who respond and
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Speaker 2: said Labour's not done enough to address housing issues. Ninety
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Speaker 2: percent say it's too difficult to afford to buy or
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Speaker 2: written Australia and Patrick that research when you dig into it,
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Speaker 2: that says a third of Australians are not buying food
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Speaker 2: medicine because they've got to pay their rent all mortgage
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Speaker 2: as their first priority. That says, for all the lovely
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Speaker 2: words from the government that they're addressing cost of living,
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Speaker 2: they're not even getting close.
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Speaker 13: No.
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Speaker 11: And I think the interesting thing about that survey, Peter
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Speaker 11: was the respondents actually said have been getting worse in
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Speaker 11: the last twelve months and I think I think it
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Speaker 11: was seven and ten, and said that their quality of
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Speaker 11: life had been affected by the housing crisis.
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Speaker 9: That's an awful.
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Speaker 11: It's a huge number of Australians who are going to
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Speaker 11: the polls next year and housing will be front and
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Speaker 11: center of the election campaign, probably alongside energy and Look,
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Speaker 11: the Albanezy government looks so wobbly on this. Nobody believes
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Speaker 11: their wonderful target you referred to early. I think it's
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Speaker 11: one point two million homes by twenty twenty nine. There's
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Speaker 11: not enough homes and there's not enough trading to actually
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Speaker 11: build the homes. And it looks like, based on this
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Speaker 11: poll and the reading of it, it's not going to
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Speaker 11: get any better soon. It's certainly not going to get
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Speaker 11: better before the election, and this is going to be
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Speaker 11: the main game come at election time.
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Speaker 10: What about that.
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Speaker 2: Pub chain the center of the furor about Australia a Caroline,
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Speaker 2: then I'll being pretty coy about whether or not they'll
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Speaker 2: charge us a fifteen percent surcharge on Australia Day. On
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Speaker 2: the twenty six now week apology issued after they got
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Speaker 2: slammed by the public, as they should, But seriously, if
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Speaker 2: a pub isn't celebrating Australia Day, or a restaurant or anyone,
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Speaker 2: don't dare it charge me in Australia Day surcharge.
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Speaker 12: I mean, excuse the pun, Peter, but this kind of
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Speaker 12: hypocrisy does not pass the pub test at all, does it.
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Speaker 12: I mean, if they're choosing to lecture people and virtue
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Speaker 12: signal about how terrible Australia Day is, then don't you dare.
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Speaker 10: Try and cash in on.
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Speaker 12: The fact that it is a day that's celebrated by
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Speaker 12: the majority of Australians and is marked as a public holiday.
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Speaker 12: Don't you dare charge us that fifteen percent? I mean,
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Speaker 12: I note that they made that wik apology. Amazing that
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Speaker 12: they didn't think that they'd get this kind of backlash
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Speaker 12: in the first place, given what happened to Woolworth's when
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Speaker 12: Woolworths announced that it was no longer going to stock
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Speaker 12: Australia Day merchandise and the huge uproar that followed that.
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Speaker 10: I mean, do these.
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Speaker 12: Companies not take any notice of what's happening the whole
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Speaker 12: go work, go broke. It's real, That's why people keep
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Speaker 12: saying it. But in this case, look, it's a long
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Speaker 12: owned company. They why are they posturing on this issue
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Speaker 12: in the first place. Just leave the day alone, let
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Speaker 12: people celebrate if they want you.
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Speaker 10: No one has asked you to get involved.
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Speaker 2: And of course, if you walk into a pub in
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Speaker 2: the twenty sixth of January you can't see an Australian
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Speaker 2: flag or any bunting or any mention of the term
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Speaker 2: Australia Day.
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Speaker 3: Walk out.
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Speaker 2: Don't give them your business. Find the pub that's out.
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Speaker 2: They're celebrating our national day. Hey that big story in
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Speaker 2: Victoria that went national. The convicted murderer in prison, Alicia
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Speaker 2: Shriller is her name.
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Speaker 3: She wanted to hackcess ivey.
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Speaker 2: If she wanted them to have a baby, raise a
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Speaker 2: baby in prison from about the age of five, it
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Speaker 2: would have apparently gone to her parents to raise her
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Speaker 2: Mums come out.
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Speaker 3: And said not yon Nellie, I'm not going to do that.
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Speaker 2: Well, all the Victorian fertility clinics haves now since said
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Speaker 2: they will not treat her, and she's now withdrawn the application.
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Speaker 3: Well she's withdrawn at Patrick, I have to say for now.
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Speaker 2: But unless the Premier steps in and legislates here, she
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Speaker 2: can put the application back in, as can any other
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Speaker 2: convicted prisoner in jail in the States. So surely the
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Speaker 2: Premier's got to show a bit of leadership here and
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Speaker 2: outlaw this practice.
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Speaker 11: Well, she hasn't it, And it surprises me.
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Speaker 9: It's a free kick.
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Speaker 11: Everybody was offended by the notion that a murderer could
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Speaker 11: get IVF treatment in prison. There's nobody really advocating for
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Speaker 11: the murderer in this case. And I know the coalition
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Speaker 11: in Parliament, I think today or yesterday I tried to
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Speaker 11: push through the starting point for legislation to make it
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Speaker 11: so that murderers can't get IVF in prison, and the
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Speaker 11: Labor government sort of pushed that away. Look if they
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Speaker 11: legislate and they should obviously, because it might happen again,
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Speaker 11: they're not going to lose one vote and they might
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Speaker 11: actually gain a few votes. I don't see why it's
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Speaker 11: not happening, and happening today or tomorrow. It's a situation.
20:57
Speaker 9: It's no brainer.
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Speaker 2: And the Victorian libb the former corrections officer, police officer,
21:05
Speaker 2: the shadow minister there, Brad Batton, he was straight onto it.
21:08
Speaker 2: But I think that across the board the Parliament should
21:10
Speaker 2: be able to agree, not on at all, but we'll see.
21:13
Speaker 2: Caroline Patrick, thank you, all right. Let's go to the
21:15
Speaker 2: news today. Of course, on the economy. Our economy growing
21:19
Speaker 2: by just zero point three of a percent, the September quarter.
21:22
Speaker 2: That's the worst result, worse than we were predicting. It's
21:26
Speaker 2: a week at growth, but it's the worst result we've
21:29
Speaker 2: had a pandemic aside since Paul Keating's nineteen nineties recession
21:33
Speaker 2: that we all had to have. But again, if you
21:35
Speaker 2: ask a treasurer, it's all someone else's fault.
21:39
Speaker 5: Our economy is still growing, but very slowly. It's weighed
21:43
Speaker 5: down by interest rates and cost living pressures and global
21:46
Speaker 5: economic uncertainty as well. Now Australians would be much worse off,
21:52
Speaker 5: and growth in our economy would be even weaker without
21:56
Speaker 5: our responsible and balanced approach to the budget and without
22:00
Speaker 5: our cost of living support.
22:03
Speaker 2: Now, in per capita terms, that's the seventh quarter of
22:07
Speaker 2: negative growth.
22:08
Speaker 3: That's where we're at. Let's talk to.
22:10
Speaker 2: Someone who could put it all apart. For US Business
22:12
Speaker 2: editor Ross Greenwood, all right, top line assessment, ross national accounts,
22:17
Speaker 2: how did you play it today?
22:19
Speaker 14: The Australian economy is in a quagmire, Peter. It is
22:22
Speaker 14: stuck in the mud and going nowhere fast. And this
22:26
Speaker 14: is not about international factors. They were some part in
22:29
Speaker 14: the distance. It is not about the Reserve Bank and
22:32
Speaker 14: interest rates. It is about the government. It is about
22:35
Speaker 14: the fact that the government has put in policies that
22:37
Speaker 14: have made Australia uncompetitive, that have made businesses want to
22:41
Speaker 14: not invest and as a result, really it's a situation
22:45
Speaker 14: where as a result of that, the government has had
22:48
Speaker 14: to go to record levels of spending to basically try
22:51
Speaker 14: and keep the economy going, mounting up the debts and
22:55
Speaker 14: therefore also taking out of taxpayers pockets record amounts of taxation.
23:01
Speaker 14: And so while there is inflation which is caused by
23:04
Speaker 14: that government spending, and as a result of that, people
23:07
Speaker 14: are then put into new tax brackets. The share of
23:10
Speaker 14: taxation which is affecting those families right now is at
23:14
Speaker 14: a record. So the reason why the economy is stuck
23:17
Speaker 14: is because private enterprise is not investing because it's not
23:20
Speaker 14: competitive enough and they can't make the money to do so.
23:24
Speaker 14: And households are being squeezed and not spending because they
23:28
Speaker 14: too know that the cost living continues to rise. And
23:32
Speaker 14: the government is responsible because it's taking more tax than
23:36
Speaker 14: it previously has out of their pockets, notwithstanding even the
23:40
Speaker 14: Stage three tax cuts.
23:45
Speaker 2: You're a business journalist, right, You're state straight down the line.
23:48
Speaker 2: I'm a political analyst. Right, so I'm looking at the
23:50
Speaker 2: politics in this, but you're straight down the line. There
23:53
Speaker 2: has been economist after economist on air today on this network,
23:57
Speaker 2: on other networks on radio pointed to the government's policies
24:02
Speaker 2: and the government's lack of action in other areas. The
24:05
Speaker 2: RBA has said the same thing. Yet they are persisting
24:09
Speaker 2: today in that press conference from the Treasurer. They are
24:11
Speaker 2: persisting in either saying we're fantastic look at these two
24:14
Speaker 2: meek surpluses, or it's not our fault.
24:17
Speaker 3: It waxes between the two.
24:19
Speaker 2: But the audacity from the Treasurer today, I could not
24:22
Speaker 2: believe it. We haven't had numbers this bad pandemic aside
24:26
Speaker 2: since the Keating recession of the nineteen nineties.
24:28
Speaker 3: And I've got to ask the question.
24:31
Speaker 2: We know you and I know Australians are hurting, but
24:33
Speaker 2: do you think voters are starting to understand how serious
24:38
Speaker 2: things are in economic terms?
24:40
Speaker 9: I think they've got to be.
24:42
Speaker 14: I mean, you just go to energy policy and you
24:45
Speaker 14: realize that people are paying higher energy prices notwithstanding rebates
24:49
Speaker 14: handed out by the federal government. The answer to any
24:52
Speaker 14: sort of cost of living crisis is not the government
24:55
Speaker 14: giving money out, they're giving more taxpayers money out borrowing
24:58
Speaker 14: more money. The answer is to actually create more generation
25:03
Speaker 14: and actually to give more reliable generation. So that is
25:06
Speaker 14: the heart of it.
25:07
Speaker 9: Then you go to interest rates.
25:08
Speaker 14: Well, it was a bold experiment that a treasurer created
25:12
Speaker 14: to say, ah, the Reserve Bank will now not just
25:14
Speaker 14: look at inflation, it's also going to look at maintaining
25:18
Speaker 14: full employment. Now, the reality is that there's an enormous
25:21
Speaker 14: demand for labor in this country. And so the fact
25:24
Speaker 14: of the matter is, had we taken the route of
25:26
Speaker 14: New Zealand, had we taken the root of the United Kingdom,
25:29
Speaker 14: the root of the United States, guess what, we might
25:33
Speaker 14: have gone into a recession. But the politics of that
25:35
Speaker 14: were that the Treasurer and the Prime Minister did not
25:38
Speaker 14: want to be the politicians responsible for a recession, and
25:42
Speaker 14: so they basically created policies to try and keep Australia
25:46
Speaker 14: bubbling along in a quagmire, going sideways. And as a
25:50
Speaker 14: result of that, now we could be out of a recession,
25:53
Speaker 14: we could have lower interest rates. But the government, with
25:56
Speaker 14: industrial relations policies, with energy policy, with interest rate policy,
26:00
Speaker 14: have basically done this of their own making.
26:04
Speaker 2: And that's because they couldn't bear the brand of a
26:08
Speaker 2: national short recession. They're quite happy for poor old Australians
26:12
Speaker 2: have these seven quarters in negative growth.
26:13
Speaker 3: They're quite happy for us to all.
26:15
Speaker 2: Sit in an individual or household recession. They just don't
26:19
Speaker 2: want that tag to dog them when Australians go to
26:22
Speaker 2: vote next year that labor forced us into recession. So
26:25
Speaker 2: the politics of this is what's playing out here. But
26:28
Speaker 2: the records spending, I mean, it's just extraordinary, almost two
26:32
Speaker 2: hundred billion dollars in the September quarter. That's not just
26:35
Speaker 2: obviously federal government spending. States are just as bad as well.
26:39
Speaker 2: The surpluses of guy were absolutely indeficit. Again, I don't
26:43
Speaker 2: know why they're going to be there on the twenty
26:44
Speaker 2: fifth of March to deliver a budget that is a
26:46
Speaker 2: sea of red ink. This is why I think they're
26:49
Speaker 2: going to go early, because they cannot bear Australians to
26:52
Speaker 2: wrap their heads around this before they get into the
26:54
Speaker 2: ballot box.
26:55
Speaker 14: Because as you and I have discussed before, this is
26:57
Speaker 14: not going to get better. This is going to get
26:58
Speaker 14: worse because inflation is not going away. It will eventually
27:01
Speaker 14: come down, it naturally does. But guess what your grocery
27:04
Speaker 14: prices is still going to be the same as they
27:06
Speaker 14: are today. Even if inflation goes to zero, the price
27:09
Speaker 14: is still going to be the same. If energy prices
27:10
Speaker 14: stopped rising, there's still what they are today, So the
27:13
Speaker 14: pressure doesn't go away. So then on the other side,
27:17
Speaker 14: the Treasurer says, on one hand, look we've created you know,
27:20
Speaker 14: sort of all these above average wage rises for ordinary
27:23
Speaker 14: working people. Great news, But the fact of the matter
27:25
Speaker 14: is that what that creates inflation, puts pressure on inflation.
27:29
Speaker 14: So you know, it's really a situation where the government
27:32
Speaker 14: has kind of got itself into a position where it's
27:35
Speaker 14: kind of stuck. Now, what's the answer going forward for
27:38
Speaker 14: either say a coalition government if it came to power,
27:41
Speaker 14: or indeed the labor government if it's re elected. Well,
27:43
Speaker 14: it's not easy for either because to sit there and
27:46
Speaker 14: say we'll have an austerity budget, we will cut the spending,
27:49
Speaker 14: we will cut this budget, it's going to be pretty
27:51
Speaker 14: tough because politically that is never popular for any government
27:54
Speaker 14: coming to powers. So the reality for Australia is that
27:58
Speaker 14: this could go on for decade before we see another
28:01
Speaker 14: resources boombaps. Luckily, get us out of trouble again.
28:07
Speaker 2: We've got the last Reserve Bank meeting for the year
28:09
Speaker 2: next Tuesday. Of course, they don't have a meeting in January.
28:12
Speaker 2: They're back mid February. I think the February and March
28:15
Speaker 2: one will be very indicative for the election. Where do
28:18
Speaker 2: you think they'll go? Next Tuesday?
28:20
Speaker 14: So next Tuesday definitely on hold. Because even the money markets,
28:24
Speaker 14: after these soft and expected numbers today, brought forward the
28:28
Speaker 14: expectation of a rate cut from May next year until
28:31
Speaker 14: April next year. So that was a bit of a
28:33
Speaker 14: change in the market's attitude as to when interest rates
28:36
Speaker 14: will be cut because the economy is so soft. But
28:39
Speaker 14: the Reserve Bank will stick right now with its expectation
28:43
Speaker 14: that really inflation is not disappearing, underlying inflation, not headline inflation,
28:48
Speaker 14: which is artificially affected by energy rebates. But there's another issue,
28:52
Speaker 14: and that is that the Treasurer now is going to
28:54
Speaker 14: get his way to have a separate monetary policy board
28:57
Speaker 14: and to be able to make the appointments on that
29:00
Speaker 14: Those appointees, you would hope, might actually be looking at
29:02
Speaker 14: that inflation story and not really rolling over easily with
29:06
Speaker 14: the suggestion that we just need interst rate cuts just
29:09
Speaker 14: to make things easier, because the problem of that is
29:12
Speaker 14: it could restir inflation.
29:13
Speaker 9: If that happens.
29:14
Speaker 14: Guess what, you might get a couple of interest rate cuts,
29:16
Speaker 14: but down the track you either get a big economic
29:19
Speaker 14: fall or you suddenly get inflation popping up, and guess what,
29:22
Speaker 14: the next cycle of interest rate rises comes again.
29:27
Speaker 2: My fear of ross as there'll be political appointments and
29:30
Speaker 2: a board that just agrees with the treasure abbit.
29:32
Speaker 3: We'll see.
29:33
Speaker 2: Thank you for your time. That's great analysis. Right up
29:35
Speaker 2: the break, you're back to basics approach to teaching that
29:37
Speaker 2: has sent results through a group of Catholic schools positively
29:41
Speaker 2: through the roof. Plus a bit later on the tilds
29:45
Speaker 2: planned expansion at the next election. Where are they going
29:47
Speaker 2: to tie and win seats pretending that they're independence.
29:57
Speaker 3: Welcome back?
29:57
Speaker 2: Well, vegan meat, you know, plant based to meat and
30:00
Speaker 2: all those nut milks and milk which is not really milk. Well,
30:04
Speaker 2: turns out they're not good for the environment. They're not
30:06
Speaker 2: good for the planet. What surprise surprise there. We'll get
30:09
Speaker 2: to that a bit later on the first what's clear
30:11
Speaker 2: from the latest naplan results release today is at schools
30:14
Speaker 2: that have shunned teaching fads and gotten back to basics
30:18
Speaker 2: have seen a vast improvement in their results.
30:21
Speaker 3: Now.
30:21
Speaker 2: Back in August, when the nationwide results were released, it
30:24
Speaker 2: was revealed that one in three of our children were
30:27
Speaker 2: not proficient in numeracy or literacy, leaving us well behind
30:31
Speaker 2: our international peers. Clearly, that's not good enough. We'll fast
30:36
Speaker 2: forward to today. We get those August results now broken
30:40
Speaker 2: down school by school, and a few things have become
30:43
Speaker 2: very obvious. The first that schools are sticking with the fads,
30:46
Speaker 2: those that are or they're stuck in an underperforming rut.
30:50
Speaker 2: The second, schools that are returning to a back to
30:52
Speaker 2: basics curriculum or they're strongly improving. And third, the turnaround
30:59
Speaker 2: for those schools has been as dramatic as it is.
31:03
Speaker 3: Fast. Joining me now is someone.
31:04
Speaker 2: Who has overseen a group of schools returning to the
31:08
Speaker 2: back to basics methods, Ross Fox, the Director of Catholic
31:12
Speaker 2: Education the Archdiocese of Canberra and Goldben Well. Ross, great
31:16
Speaker 2: to have your company on the show, and congratulations on
31:19
Speaker 2: these resulting right around the country. We're cheering you on
31:23
Speaker 2: because we hope that others will learn from what you've done.
31:26
Speaker 2: So credit to you, your students, your teachers, the whole lot.
31:29
Speaker 2: But when you say you've got back to basics and
31:32
Speaker 2: you're focused on literacy and on numeracy, are we talking
31:36
Speaker 2: about the sort of education I had in the Mallley
31:39
Speaker 2: with my old nuns. We're talking about rote learning and
31:42
Speaker 2: we're talking about you know, really heavy focus on reading.
31:47
Speaker 3: What are we talking about Ross?
31:50
Speaker 1: There's no doubt, Peter, it's a human failing that we're
31:52
Speaker 1: obsessed with novelty.
31:53
Speaker 9: We want the new in education.
31:55
Speaker 1: In recent decades we've certainly been attracted to changing things
32:00
Speaker 1: and it hasn't all been for the better. This is
32:03
Speaker 1: not necessarily a back to basics. There's some ways it is.
32:06
Speaker 1: It's been clear about what students need to learn. We
32:10
Speaker 1: know that if you're a novice learner, if you don't
32:13
Speaker 1: know much, which most children are in school on most subjects,
32:17
Speaker 1: the most efficient and effective way to learn is to
32:19
Speaker 1: be told exactly what you need to know. That's not
32:23
Speaker 1: drill and kill. It's not boring. It can be highly engaging,
32:27
Speaker 1: can be dynamic, it can be knowledge rich, can be
32:29
Speaker 1: high aspiration, and there is a sense in which there's
32:34
Speaker 1: a lot of broat learning to require for students to
32:37
Speaker 1: develop the knowledge they need to encounter all the significant issues, problems,
32:41
Speaker 1: opportunities in the world around us.
32:44
Speaker 9: But it's also learning by heart.
32:47
Speaker 1: It's learning poems, prayers, songs, speeches and getting those things
32:54
Speaker 1: into your long term memory so that you can bring
32:57
Speaker 1: them to solving into challenging problems. So we've pursued something
33:04
Speaker 1: called the science of learning. The reality is that most
33:07
Speaker 1: children's brains work the same way, and most children learn
33:10
Speaker 1: the same way, and our teaching needs to respond to that.
33:13
Speaker 1: So we don't need fads, we don't need distractions, we don't.
33:16
Speaker 9: Need ideologies or philosophies.
33:18
Speaker 1: We need to respond to the students in front of
33:21
Speaker 1: us and how they actually learn. And there's for too
33:23
Speaker 1: long there's been myths like learning styles. There's no evidence
33:27
Speaker 1: for learning styles. There's evidence that wellspased, well planned, intentional
33:33
Speaker 1: teaching that has good pace, that has frequent engagement, frequent
33:37
Speaker 1: questioning of students really works in terms of transferring the
33:41
Speaker 1: knowledge that those students need. We're very used to this
33:43
Speaker 1: approach in learning to swim, learning a sport, it's exactly
33:47
Speaker 1: how coaches teach young kids how to play a new sport,
33:52
Speaker 1: and it works in the classroom, and it's worked across
33:54
Speaker 1: our thousand classrooms and fifty six schools in very dramatic ways.
34:00
Speaker 2: So it would for my viewers at home, it would
34:03
Speaker 2: be something we would recognize from our own time at school.
34:07
Speaker 2: So I know it was called direct instruction there for
34:09
Speaker 2: a while. Is that what we're talking about? You know,
34:12
Speaker 2: repetition examples literally putting stuff up in front of the
34:18
Speaker 2: classroom and going through a sentenced construction, all the old
34:22
Speaker 2: ways to teach.
34:22
Speaker 3: Is that what we're talking about.
34:25
Speaker 1: Well, there's no slates, there's no blackboards anymore, there's no chalk,
34:30
Speaker 1: so there are I'd say, yes, yes, there's similarities in
34:34
Speaker 1: the classrooms that we have. For example, it is beneficial
34:38
Speaker 1: to have students in rows so that they can focus
34:41
Speaker 1: on what the teacher's teaching. That would be very familiar.
34:43
Speaker 1: So there's many things that are familiar. But I'd also say,
34:46
Speaker 1: when we started this journey five or seven years ago,
34:51
Speaker 1: what's going on in classrooms was beyond the imagination that
34:54
Speaker 1: we had of what our learning could be. So I'd
34:57
Speaker 1: say it's fast paced, it's dynamic, there's mini whiteboards.
35:01
Speaker 9: Often, there's some digital stimulation.
35:03
Speaker 1: In terms of fast use of slides to convey information,
35:07
Speaker 1: to do retrieval practice, so practicing something the students already know.
35:11
Speaker 1: So yes, there's many, many things that will be familiar
35:14
Speaker 1: to someone educating the Mallee by Nuns. But there's also
35:17
Speaker 1: an edge to it which is absolutely cutting edge, drawing
35:20
Speaker 1: on the best understanding the contemporary science of how students learn.
35:26
Speaker 2: Was it hard to convince teachers and parents to make
35:29
Speaker 2: this change.
35:31
Speaker 1: Well, I remember a meeting where we were talking with
35:36
Speaker 1: a large group of educators in my system, and I
35:39
Speaker 1: had a slide with the word explicit in two hundred
35:42
Speaker 1: point font because it was clear to me we did
35:45
Speaker 1: not have a satisfactory account of when explicit teaching direct
35:50
Speaker 1: instruction was appropriate and needed, And there was almost pandemonium
35:53
Speaker 1: in the room.
35:54
Speaker 9: When I raised that.
35:56
Speaker 1: What I know, though, and I've seen very clearly, is
35:59
Speaker 1: that there is no teacher who is in teaching for
36:03
Speaker 1: anything other than seeing students learn. They love seeing students
36:07
Speaker 1: learn and succeed. And so there was a challenge to
36:10
Speaker 1: introduce some new concepts to a number of staff a
36:13
Speaker 1: number of schools. But what has happened is that we've
36:17
Speaker 1: seen the effectiveness of these practices. We've seen that they
36:19
Speaker 1: can be easier for staff, they're more effective for student learning,
36:23
Speaker 1: and so there's things going on in our classrooms, the
36:26
Speaker 1: thousand of them across the fifty six schools that teachers
36:29
Speaker 1: regularly say to me five years ago, I would not
36:32
Speaker 1: have believed this was possible in terms of the students
36:35
Speaker 1: being able to learn this and then apply it in
36:37
Speaker 1: amazingly creative ways.
36:39
Speaker 9: So we are absolutely.
36:41
Speaker 1: Progressing and it was hard to convince, but everybody loves
36:47
Speaker 1: what works, and this is demonstrated to be easier when
36:50
Speaker 1: we've got it working, and that it works tremendously well,
36:53
Speaker 1: and everybody loves that result.
36:57
Speaker 2: Well, good on your ross, and hopefully roll out to
37:00
Speaker 2: other schools. You'll be the test case at least within
37:03
Speaker 2: sort of the Catholic sector, but hopefully that then populates
37:06
Speaker 2: outside that and into the government school sector.
37:08
Speaker 3: Thank you for your time.
37:09
Speaker 2: Right after break, the Deals could be making a bold
37:12
Speaker 2: move into the Gold Coast, calling themselves and defendents. Of course,
37:16
Speaker 2: last the Blue Inside Labor as a pre sessions in
37:19
Speaker 2: New South Wales hit a snag with concerns.
37:22
Speaker 3: Of another captain's peak from the Prime Minister.
37:29
Speaker 2: Welcome back coming up of course, as he does on
37:31
Speaker 2: a Wednesday, Kel Richards and look a little bit of
37:33
Speaker 2: sad news from our Sky News family. Here James Morrow,
37:36
Speaker 2: the wonderful James Morrow. His father was the brilliant thinker
37:40
Speaker 2: and writer, the US journalist Lance Morrow, who has sadly
37:44
Speaker 2: passed away. So condolences to James and the broader Morrow
37:48
Speaker 2: family and his many fans right around the world. Let's
37:51
Speaker 2: get into my panel. Those Shadow Minister Jonathan Dnny have
37:54
Speaker 2: said it. Jonathan Danny joins me now in the broadcaster too,
37:56
Speaker 2: Lucy Zelick, welcome to you. Both The gloves are off,
38:00
Speaker 2: have to say, Senator Dunnaam. Within labor in and around
38:03
Speaker 2: the WA election, the Premier Roger Crook Cook is pretty
38:08
Speaker 2: angry at time your Plever Sex plans to set up
38:10
Speaker 2: a new National EPA. It looks to me a bit
38:13
Speaker 2: like those environmental laws they tried on and then had
38:17
Speaker 2: to scrap in WA. Being another thought in his side
38:21
Speaker 2: as he goes himself to an early March election, the
38:24
Speaker 2: PM said he was killing off the deal.
38:27
Speaker 3: Then it looked like it was back.
38:28
Speaker 2: He certainly kept the door open when he spoke to
38:30
Speaker 2: Andrew Clanell. Cook is rattled and I think a rattled
38:37
Speaker 2: Roger Cook has also got the PM rattled as well.
38:43
Speaker 7: Yeah, they're all very rattled because they know what they
38:46
Speaker 7: were proposing to do and have done in some respects
38:49
Speaker 7: his bad policy, and of course it will cost them
38:51
Speaker 7: seats in Western Australia, which is why earlier this year
38:54
Speaker 7: the Prime Minister flew his entire cabinet over to Western
38:56
Speaker 7: Australia to promise the locals that don't worryry fellows, we've
39:00
Speaker 7: got your back, we'll back your industry in And immediately
39:04
Speaker 7: after cabinet had finished its meetings and he'd finished making
39:07
Speaker 7: his promises, can you proposec opted on a conscious jet
39:09
Speaker 7: back to the East Coast and started negotiating her next
39:12
Speaker 7: round of deals with the Greens, which we now know
39:15
Speaker 7: was in writing, ready to go for announcement Tuesday last
39:18
Speaker 7: week until the Prime Minister was forced to intervene. The
39:21
Speaker 7: scary part about this Peter is though, that he's been
39:24
Speaker 7: forced to pull this thing off the books to not
39:28
Speaker 7: proceed with this deal. It's not because he wanted to.
39:31
Speaker 7: Their deep desire is to legislate things like a new
39:34
Speaker 7: EPA and all these this green tape after an election.
39:37
Speaker 7: If it's a Labor Green government. You can be guaranteed
39:40
Speaker 7: this will be front and center of their legislative agenda
39:43
Speaker 7: and it'll be ten times worse.
39:47
Speaker 2: Right, let's head up to the Gold Coast because a
39:49
Speaker 2: marathon runner up there a Kanna Murray Bartlet's her name.
39:53
Speaker 2: She's announced she's running as an independent in the coalition
39:55
Speaker 2: held seat of McPherson. Now what irks me here, Lucy?
40:00
Speaker 2: She calls herself an independent, but she's got the backing
40:03
Speaker 2: of Simon Holmes a Court. Now, what are these tales
40:06
Speaker 2: going to be treated like a political party and subject
40:08
Speaker 2: to all the rules that that entails.
40:12
Speaker 15: It's a really good question, Peter, and I believe it
40:14
Speaker 15: was the former Member for Wentworth, Dave Shalma, who said
40:18
Speaker 15: that if it looks, acts and feels like a political party,
40:21
Speaker 15: I suggest that it is a political party. And can
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Speaker 15: I ask what exactly is independent about a candidate who's
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Speaker 15: being backed by Simon Holmes a Court and his Climate
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Speaker 15: two hundred movement. It's really crazy when you think about it.
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Speaker 15: And the quotes that really stood out to me from
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Speaker 15: this particular candidate from Murray Bartlett was she says there's
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Speaker 15: a big appetite here for progression in the climate space
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Speaker 15: and making sure we're doing more. How exactly is that
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Speaker 15: particularly independent?
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Speaker 3: And is she aware of the.
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Speaker 15: Fact that the Greens were barely able to hang on
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Speaker 15: to at least one seat in the Queensland election and
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Speaker 15: the fact that the seat of McPherson is home to
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Speaker 15: you know, million dollar mansions and has typically been a
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Speaker 15: conservative voting group of cant of voters, right, So.
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Speaker 3: It's really fascinating to me.
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Speaker 15: And the fact that they're trying to position themselves as
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Speaker 15: independence when you've got the executive director of the Climate
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Speaker 15: two hundred Movements saying that Australians are sick of politicians
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Speaker 15: putting the interests of their party and their factions above
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Speaker 15: the interests of their communities. What's any different about a
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Speaker 15: candidate now putting her own ideology about climate change ahead
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Speaker 15: of the interests and the factions within their communities.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's just absurd. And the teals need to
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Speaker 3: be held accountable just as everything there frauds.
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Speaker 2: Well, let's go down to Tazzy if I can down
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Speaker 2: to your neck at the woods and there's five that's
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Speaker 2: happening in and around the set of Lions about the
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Speaker 2: salmon industry. I spoke to the mayor of Devenport last night.
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Speaker 2: She said, make the bloody decision, Tanya. We want to
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Speaker 2: know before the election. If you're going to scrap the industry,
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Speaker 2: let us know that before we vote.
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Speaker 3: What how.
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Speaker 2: I've got the head of the Australian Workers' Union coming out,
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Speaker 2: Paul Farrow. It says the core question remains clear, do
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Speaker 2: we care more about the livelihoods of regional Tasimanian families
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Speaker 2: or the exaggerated concerns of inner city activists. It's got
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Speaker 2: a real smell of what was it two thousand and four,
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Speaker 2: I think it was at election when John Howard went
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Speaker 2: down to the timber workers of Tazzy, won their vote
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Speaker 2: and one in a landslide.
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Speaker 3: John O.
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Speaker 9: This is history of repeating itself again.
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Speaker 7: You've got the inner city elites telling regional communities what
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Speaker 7: to do, and you've got real labor who still exist
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Speaker 7: in pockets of the party, in various unions, and a
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Speaker 7: certain faction within the Labor Party staring on in fear
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Speaker 7: and now they're finally speaking out, and these hundreds of
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Speaker 7: jobs in Strawn on the hook. The Mayor of Devenport,
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Speaker 7: Ali Jarman, is absolutely right, and she's not alone. I
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Speaker 7: understand there's a former Labor premier who's on the of
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Speaker 7: calling on Tanya Plubsect to actually do her job in
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Speaker 7: the interests of Tasmanian people. And there is no reason
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Speaker 7: for a delay other than she doesn't want to annoy
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Speaker 7: the Green photos in her electorate by making a decision
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Speaker 7: in favor of the industry, and she doesn't want to
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Speaker 7: annoy some of her colleagues by shutting the industry down
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Speaker 7: if that's the decision she makes. So she really is
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Speaker 7: going to suffer a real make labor suffer at the
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Speaker 7: ballot box if she doesn't make a decision before the election,
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Speaker 7: which she should and could.
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Speaker 3: Needs to be transparent.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, the Greens want to put on the table at
43:38
Speaker 2: the election of policy to give every Australian and it
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Speaker 2: won't be Australian woman, It'll be everyone with a uterus
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Speaker 2: or not or presenting as a woman or whatever, free contraception. Lucy,
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Speaker 2: it'll cost poor old taxpayers two one hundred and fifty
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Speaker 2: million dollars.
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Speaker 3: What do you think of this?
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Speaker 15: I think it's pretty absurd to be honest. In the
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Speaker 15: ideal world, Peter, diversity would be free everything would be
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Speaker 15: free in the world, but then that would be tantamount
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Speaker 15: to economic vandalism.
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Speaker 3: And right now, at a cost of living crisis.
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Speaker 15: Is it really worth putting towards, you know, two hundred
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Speaker 15: and fifty million dollars towards something like this. We already
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Speaker 15: have several forms of contraception that are pretty much you know,
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Speaker 15: taken care of under the PBS and lower costs. The
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Speaker 15: thing that made me laugh the most was when they said,
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Speaker 15: you know that this is about gender inequality, gender inequality,
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Speaker 15: What are you talking about.
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Speaker 3: Does this mean that you're going.
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Speaker 15: To provide you know, cheaper condoms and cheaper eseectomies for
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Speaker 15: men as well. It's pretty laughable, and I think ultimately
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Speaker 15: now what we're seeing is just another kind of you know,
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Speaker 15: fantasy idea from the Greens that are trying to solve
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Speaker 15: a problem that has already been solved by the PBS scheme.
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Speaker 15: And I think that, you know, I'd like to see
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Speaker 15: that two hundred and fifty million dollars go towards our
44:47
Speaker 15: nurses right who are currently on strike here in New
44:50
Speaker 15: South Wales and who are desperate for more money and
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Speaker 15: for ratios to be increased so there's better ways that
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Speaker 15: we could be spending that money in areas that have
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Speaker 15: already been taken that already Really he needs some attention
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Speaker 15: versus areas that have already been taken care of.
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Speaker 3: I just think it's silly.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's got a Western Cindy Johno. It's going to
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Speaker 2: be a battleground. As we know, we've got a Muslim
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Speaker 2: vote movement. Labor quite spooked by this. In the seat
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Speaker 2: of Barton, this is the seat held by Linda Birnie.
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Speaker 3: She's retiring. Of course, there's a.
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Speaker 2: Staush going on and talk that Alban Easy will come
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Speaker 2: and he wants a left wing candidate. Apparently the right
45:24
Speaker 2: faction control of Barton, but he wants a lefty. He
45:27
Speaker 2: wants to go in with another captain's peak. Well, he
45:29
Speaker 2: had one last time in another seat of Fowler. He
45:32
Speaker 2: put in Christina kinnearly eighteen percent swing against Labor.
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Speaker 3: How's this one going to go down?
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Speaker 9: I reckon about as well, Peter. I mean, this is
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Speaker 9: the thing.
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Speaker 7: It's just another demonstration of how out of touch Labor are.
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Speaker 7: They don't get their policies right because they don't listen
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Speaker 7: to the people. And then the faceless men of the
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Speaker 7: back room of the Labor Party, which are the people
45:53
Speaker 7: controlling this party here. It's all done in back rooms
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Speaker 7: with no transparency whatsoever, choosing who candidates will be, which
46:01
Speaker 7: is why people reject them. And so in fouler As
46:04
Speaker 7: you say, we had a great independent elected there who spoke.
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Speaker 9: On behalf of the people.
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Speaker 7: They didn't want to fly in back room operative that
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Speaker 7: picked by the faceless men of the Labor Party. And
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Speaker 7: if Anthony Albernezi had his wits about him, he to
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Speaker 7: understand that from a mistake made not so long ago.
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Speaker 7: But it won't go well. But what can you expect
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Speaker 7: from Labor.
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Speaker 2: We'll watch her closer, of course though, that's what the
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Speaker 2: decision in New York on Israel was all about.
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Speaker 3: John Lucy, thank you all right after brote Kel lots
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Speaker 3: of words. You're going to get to it soon.
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Speaker 2: Let's bring you in without further ado Kel Richards. We're
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Speaker 2: going to get to what we are at the end
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Speaker 2: of the year. But we're going to get to the
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Speaker 2: words of the year.
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Speaker 3: Will promo that.
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Speaker 2: For next Wednesday, but let's be topical. Black Friday, Joseph
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Speaker 2: wants to know where this term's come from, because we've
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Speaker 2: gone from zero to one hundred is all I hear
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Speaker 2: about now. Black Friday sale, can you tell me?
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Speaker 13: Comes from America, And traditionally in America, the Christmas sales
47:06
Speaker 13: begin on the day after Thanksgiving. Thanksgivings always a Thursday night,
47:10
Speaker 13: so on the Friday after Thanksgiving all the Christmas stales start.
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Speaker 13: And in the year nineteen sixty, the police chief in
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Speaker 13: Philadelphia labeled it Black Friday because of the traffic chaos
47:21
Speaker 13: in that city on that day, and they just caught
47:24
Speaker 13: on a people started calling it Black Friday. Retailers resisted
47:27
Speaker 13: it because they thought it was negative, but finally took
47:29
Speaker 13: it up because everyone kept using it. And then Australian
47:32
Speaker 13: retailers have taken it up for no reason whatsoever. We
47:35
Speaker 13: don't have Black Fridays here. The original reason behind it
47:39
Speaker 13: has just sort of disappeared.
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Speaker 9: They just used the language.
47:44
Speaker 10: Well.
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Speaker 2: Consumers like it too, because it makes sense. You get
47:47
Speaker 2: the presence now cheap for Christmas as opposed to our
47:50
Speaker 2: Boxing Day sales. You know, you bought you a Christmas
47:53
Speaker 2: present and then you finally all go on sale and
47:54
Speaker 2: they get.
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Speaker 3: A bit cranky.
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Speaker 2: Someone raised this one with me yesterday, indefatigable. I love
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Speaker 2: the word indefatigable. This woman said to me. King Charles
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Speaker 2: pronounces it as indefatigable.
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Speaker 3: Now have I got it wrong? And have I had
48:10
Speaker 3: it wrong for dickhat?
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Speaker 9: No, no, no no.
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Speaker 13: I have to say I am a monarchist and I'm
48:16
Speaker 13: really happy with the constitutional monarchy. But your majesty, you're wrong.
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Speaker 13: The way Peter says it, the way I say it,
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Speaker 13: indefatigable is the only way to say it. There's only
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Speaker 13: one pronunciation of the Oxford, and it is indefatigable. We
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Speaker 13: are right, and we should we drop a load to
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Speaker 13: the palace.
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Speaker 9: Do you think.
48:35
Speaker 10: Well?
48:35
Speaker 3: Send it to Clarence House. I hope he's watching.
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Speaker 2: Hey, Rob wants to know where the term sixers and
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Speaker 2: sevens and dressed up to the nines comes from.
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Speaker 13: Sixers and sevens is a bit uncertain, probably from an
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Speaker 13: old dice game which was called Hazard, and it was
48:50
Speaker 13: played in France and the original expression was sankee cees
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Speaker 13: not that my French is very good, meaning five and six,
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Speaker 13: which was the riskiest numbers to throw. The expression and
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Speaker 13: the game was discovered in England, but English people who
49:03
Speaker 13: couldn't speak French misunderstood the expression, so they turned translated
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Speaker 13: seas into sixes and sevens. That appears to be.
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Speaker 9: Where it came from.
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Speaker 13: Dressed up to the nines was originally an expression dressed
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Speaker 13: up to your eyes, thine eyes, dressed up to thine
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Speaker 13: eyes back in the Middle Ages, all that way. But
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Speaker 13: as over the years, the n was taken off the
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Speaker 13: end of thine and attached to the beginning of eyes,
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Speaker 13: and it became dressed to the nines.
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Speaker 2: All right, chop chop, are we going to move on?
49:35
Speaker 2: We'll come back to chop chop where that one's come from.
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Speaker 2: John wants to know that, but we'll leave that for
49:39
Speaker 2: next week without words of the year.
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Speaker 3: Thank you.
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Speaker 8: Kel.
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Speaker 3: All right, that's it for me. Tomorrow at six Andrew Bolt,
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Speaker 3: now see you then.