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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Sunday, October 18th. I'm
- 0:03Speaker 1: your host, Tom Moore. The USC game in 13 days.
- 0:06Speaker 1: The game against Michigan in 41 days. Thanks to our
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- 0:19Speaker 1: As we speak right now, the Ohio State Buckeyes are
- 0:21Speaker 1: on a plane headed back to Columbus, Ohio. I don't know, they...
- 0:24Speaker 1: Based on Ryan Day's mood after the game, they may
- 0:27Speaker 1: hit Jeff Rubies to a celebratory team dinner or something
- 0:30Speaker 1: after that game. What an emotionally complicated game that was.
- 0:35Speaker 1: Ohio State 19, Indiana 15. The Buckeyes get their top
- 0:39Speaker 1: five matchup. Chuck Mileti of BuckeyeInsiders.com. I feel like we
- 0:44Speaker 1: could have the, this is like we could do the good,
- 0:46Speaker 1: the bad, and the ugly show. But let's start with
- 0:49Speaker 1: the good. You go on the road. You beat the
- 0:52Speaker 1: defending national champions. You do it despite a bunch of
- 0:55Speaker 1: stuff not going your way. I think you have to,
- 0:58Speaker 1: you know, when Ryan Day was happy, I thought, oh,
- 1:00Speaker 1: he's happier than I thought. Then I was like, well,
- 1:01Speaker 1: that's stupid. Of course he's happy. He was thrilled.
- 1:04Speaker 2: He was thrilled, which is much different than the comment
- 1:07Speaker 2: section when I took over to start the live show.
- 1:11Speaker 2: But I usually try to gauge how I feel by
- 1:14Speaker 2: the head coach because he's a very honest guy when
- 1:16Speaker 2: it comes to his opinions. He wears it on his sleeve.
- 1:19Speaker 2: And the players were thrilled. And of course, the way
- 1:21Speaker 2: that ended could have been a lot different, right? One
- 1:24Speaker 2: step away. So a super gritty win when not everything
- 1:29Speaker 2: went well, when your starting quarterback was a little off
- 1:32Speaker 2: his game today, when he gets knocked out of the
- 1:36Speaker 2: game and that could have deflated a whole lot of things.
- 1:39Speaker 2: I thought the defense played really well. But just all
- 1:41Speaker 2: in all, a gritty win, a top five win. And
- 1:44Speaker 2: we just talked, you needed to, number one, prevent injuries.
- 1:47Speaker 2: a four-game skid in matchup games, you did that. You
- 1:50Speaker 2: did it on the road in a place where this
- 1:53Speaker 2: was not like a normal Ohio State game here. Those
- 1:55Speaker 2: were white towels they gave away for Tyreek Tucker today.
- 1:59Speaker 2: It was all Tyreek Tucker towels. The environment was awesome
- 2:04Speaker 2: for a top-five game. The Indiana fans, they're the ones
- 2:07Speaker 2: that left sad today, and the Buckeye fans certainly shouldn't.
- 2:11Speaker 2: You get a big win. And now that win, Tom,
- 2:14Speaker 2: so much more important as you look at Julian Sane
- 2:16Speaker 2: with potentially a couple of weeks out here.
- 2:19Speaker 1: Yeah, and everyone is in this huge rush to declare, well,
- 2:22Speaker 1: now the season's over. Based on what? They just went
- 2:24Speaker 1: on the road and beat a top five team. We'll
- 2:26Speaker 1: see how long Julian Sane's out. If Julian Sane's out
- 2:29Speaker 1: for the year, that's obviously not great. We don't know yet.
- 2:32Speaker 1: We'll probably find out a little more middle of this week.
- 2:36Speaker 1: I think we're supposed to talk to Ryan Day on
- 2:37Speaker 1: Tuesday or so this week. We'll see how how that
- 2:41Speaker 1: maybe changes based on the news of the day. But
- 2:44Speaker 1: this is an Ohio State team that lost a game
- 2:48Speaker 1: at Texas where you lost on the last play of
- 2:51Speaker 1: the game. You could have lost on the last play
- 2:52Speaker 1: of the game again here. You didn't. Two games are
- 2:56Speaker 1: basically a coin flip. So it landed heads once, it
- 2:59Speaker 1: landed tails once. Now you've got a week off. Then
- 3:03Speaker 1: you've got to go to USC, you've got Oregon, you've
- 3:05Speaker 1: got Nebraska, you've got Northwestern at Nebraska, and then Michigan again.
- 3:09Speaker 1: It is not an easy schedule, but there's also no
- 3:11Speaker 1: one on that schedule that you look at and you go, well,
- 3:13Speaker 1: they can't beat that team. Maybe if Julian Sane's still
- 3:18Speaker 1: out and Dante Moore is back for Oregon. Maybe. But
- 3:21Speaker 1: other than that, I don't think there's an unwinnable game there,
- 3:25Speaker 1: which means all of their goals are still very much
- 3:28Speaker 1: on the table.
- 3:29Speaker 2: Without a doubt. And, you know, obviously, like you said,
- 3:32Speaker 2: if it's a year-long injury, that's one thing. If it's not,
- 3:36Speaker 2: and again, to why this is so big now, If
- 3:38Speaker 2: you take your second loss here, then you might be
- 3:42Speaker 2: in trouble, might be in danger and not miss him.
- 3:44Speaker 2: But you can afford to potentially lose another game here
- 3:47Speaker 2: and still be okay as far as the college football
- 3:51Speaker 2: playoff looks. And if Julian's coming back in four weeks
- 3:55Speaker 2: or so, I mean, you're good to go there from
- 3:58Speaker 2: that standpoint. Luke Fahey obviously didn't play great today. An
- 4:01Speaker 2: impossible spot for him.
- 4:02Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 4:03Speaker 2: I mean, with two weeks under his belt, knowing he's
- 4:06Speaker 2: going to be the starter. I think we'll see, and
- 4:09Speaker 2: what we have seen so far this year, granted against
- 4:11Speaker 2: MAAC teams and mop-up duty, he's a poised character. There's
- 4:15Speaker 2: a reason he came in and beat Tavian St.
- 4:17Speaker 1: Clair out.
- 4:18Speaker 2: There's a lot of faith in him. He really owns
- 4:20Speaker 2: the huddle. He does the little things right, and they
- 4:23Speaker 2: trust him to do that stuff. So as far as
- 4:25Speaker 2: holding down the fort moving forward, I think he got
- 4:28Speaker 2: a pretty good one.
- 4:29Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's going to be, it's not going to
- 4:31Speaker 1: be perfect right away. He's a true freshman. And, you know, he,
- 4:34Speaker 1: as you said, it really was an impossible situation that
- 4:36Speaker 1: he got thrown into. So I would not take the
- 4:39Speaker 1: 0 for 2 there and treat that as well. He's
- 4:43Speaker 1: going to go 0 for forever. Like it's, it's two
- 4:46Speaker 1: throws on the road, an difficult spot with momentum going
- 4:49Speaker 1: against you in a second and 28 situation. Like that is,
- 4:55Speaker 1: that is not a great place to sort of get
- 4:56Speaker 1: thrown into. So So that's Julian Sane slash Luke Fahey
- 5:05Speaker 1: slash the whole quarterback situation. I think you walk out
- 5:09Speaker 1: of this game feeling better about the defense than you
- 5:13Speaker 1: have all season long. Tony and I were doing the
- 5:17Speaker 1: postgame show and going through and it was like, boy,
- 5:19Speaker 1: you know who had a great game? Edward Houston had
- 5:22Speaker 1: a great game. You know who else had a great game? Boy.
- 5:25Speaker 1: Kenyatta Jackson had a great game. Earl Little had a
- 5:27Speaker 1: great game. Will Smith. Oh, man, Will Smith had a
- 5:29Speaker 1: great game. Jay Timmons. Jay Timmons had a great game.
- 5:32Speaker 1: Riley Pettyjohn had a great game. Zion Grady had a
- 5:35Speaker 1: great game. And it's like, we just named like nine
- 5:37Speaker 1: guys and said they had a great game. Matt Patricia
- 5:39Speaker 1: had a pretty good game, I thought, calling the defense.
- 5:42Speaker 1: This was a game where they've had plenty of games
- 5:45Speaker 1: over the years where the offense has to win the
- 5:46Speaker 1: game and the defense is just sort of like there
- 5:48Speaker 1: along for the ride. This is when the defense kind
- 5:50Speaker 1: of had to win.
- 5:51Speaker 2: They carried it in that first half. They were fantastic. And,
- 5:55Speaker 2: of course, Indiana gets a little bit of momentum in
- 5:58Speaker 2: the second half. And, you know, you're bound to give
- 5:59Speaker 2: up some when you've got a guy throwing the ball
- 6:02Speaker 2: 40 times against you.
- 6:03Speaker 1: It's going to happen.
- 6:05Speaker 2: But, yeah, all in all, we had some performances that
- 6:08Speaker 2: I think, once again, we talked in the pregame show
- 6:11Speaker 2: that you had two games in a row from both
- 6:14Speaker 2: Kwe Rusaw and Edrick Houston that looked kind of like
- 6:17Speaker 2: their best games and now all of a sudden you've
- 6:20Speaker 2: built now three games in a row for Edrick Houston
- 6:23Speaker 2: where he looks like man now maybe he is going
- 6:26Speaker 2: to be that dominant three tech that everybody had hoped
- 6:28Speaker 2: he was going to at some point turn that page
- 6:30Speaker 2: and get to you got three games in a row
- 6:33Speaker 2: of evidence and he did look once again on several
- 6:35Speaker 2: plays you know without re-watching the TV copy I saw
- 6:38Speaker 2: him looking dominant pushing guys around which I did think
- 6:42Speaker 2: he was going to eat number 58 today and I
- 6:44Speaker 2: think he did kind of well Jay Timmons is just
- 6:47Speaker 2: a disaster out there. He just kills people.
- 6:48Speaker 1: He's awesome. He is a disaster, brackets, complimentary. A good disaster.
- 6:55Speaker 1: Not a disaster for Ohio State. A disaster for them.
- 6:58Speaker 1: He had a really good game. Edric Houston was just...
- 7:03Speaker 1: You saw him push the guard for Indiana, the left
- 7:05Speaker 1: guard for Indiana, straight back into the quarterback. I think
- 7:09Speaker 1: it was on the opening drive. I think it just
- 7:11Speaker 1: forced an incompletion, but it was like the Joey Bosa...
- 7:15Speaker 1: pushing the running back into the quarterback, into Christian Hackenberg
- 7:17Speaker 1: in overtime. That, but with a guard. Like, Edward Houston,
- 7:22Speaker 1: I don't know what made the light switch flip, but
- 7:25Speaker 1: the light switch has flipped. And because that was a
- 7:27Speaker 1: spot where coming into the year, we thought, well, I
- 7:30Speaker 1: don't know how good the interior of the defensive line is.
- 7:32Speaker 1: You said Will Smith had a really good game. Edward
- 7:34Speaker 1: Houston had a really good game. You're getting a lot
- 7:37Speaker 1: more out of Jason Moore than you were expecting over
- 7:39Speaker 1: the summer.
- 7:39Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
- 7:40Speaker 1: The defensive tackles have been maybe one of the more
- 7:42Speaker 1: pleasant surprises for this team this year.
- 7:43Speaker 2: I think they've stood out more than the edge players,
- 7:46Speaker 2: to be honest. And we look at John Walker, who's
- 7:48Speaker 2: been really, really good all year.
- 7:49Speaker 1: Yeah, John Walker, too.
- 7:50Speaker 2: So you're looking at five guys that right now you
- 7:53Speaker 2: feel like you can trust and certainly will in a pinch.
- 7:56Speaker 2: But Jason Moore in that three-tackle look, he made another
- 8:00Speaker 2: two really good tackles, I thought, today, stacking and shedding
- 8:03Speaker 2: with those long arms. He's keeping that leverage low for
- 8:05Speaker 2: a guy that's so tall. that's a really good look
- 8:09Speaker 2: when they do that. But yeah, all in all, the
- 8:11Speaker 2: interior defensive line may be the surprise part of the
- 8:16Speaker 2: defense as we sit here. Really, we're truly halfway through now.
- 8:20Speaker 2: I consider this halfway through. You've got a couple of
- 8:22Speaker 2: MAAC games. Seven games, we're halfway through now.
- 8:24Speaker 1: Get to the bye week. Yeah, it's sort of part
- 8:27Speaker 1: one of the season. Act one is done, and now
- 8:29Speaker 1: you've got the intermission, so we'll all sing the Let's
- 8:31Speaker 1: All Go to the Lobby song, and we'll get ourselves
- 8:33Speaker 1: a snack, and then back against USC on Halloween night
- 8:37Speaker 1: and boy how many different ways could that game go
- 8:41Speaker 1: because it's you've you've got five games left in the
- 8:44Speaker 1: regular season Ohio State still has a little bit of
- 8:46Speaker 1: margin for error in the playoff race but you have
- 8:48Speaker 1: to go across the country you got a first time
- 8:50Speaker 1: starter quarter starting quarterback who's from Southern California who is
- 8:55Speaker 1: and you know USC's defense has been no great shakes
- 8:58Speaker 1: this year or any year that Lincoln Riley's been there But,
- 9:01Speaker 1: you know, what is the answer? How do they go
- 9:04Speaker 1: about this? Do they go after Luke Fahey? Do they
- 9:07Speaker 1: just say, we're going to take away Jeremiah Smith and
- 9:09Speaker 1: make someone else beat us? Do you take away the
- 9:11Speaker 1: run and make Luke Fahey beat you with the arm?
- 9:14Speaker 1: Or can Luke Fahey, with his legs, he's not going
- 9:17Speaker 1: to be as accurate as Julian Sane, but with his legs,
- 9:19Speaker 1: does that bring a whole other dynamic to the running game?
- 9:22Speaker 2: It certainly does. It certainly does. And I think I'm
- 9:25Speaker 2: most excited to see, you know, we know that Julian
- 9:28Speaker 2: Sane has an amazing connection with Jeremiah Smith. Can Luke
- 9:31Speaker 2: Fahey get that connection with him? But can he also
- 9:34Speaker 2: maybe spread around maybe like we might see a normal
- 9:37Speaker 2: quarterback in a situation, maybe spread things around a little
- 9:41Speaker 2: bit more to some of the other wide receivers? He's
- 9:43Speaker 2: a really good processor, and not that Julian's saying isn't,
- 9:46Speaker 2: but I do feel like at times he might have
- 9:47Speaker 2: gotten stuck in the push the Jeremiah button in a
- 9:51Speaker 2: couple of games here so far. So it's going to
- 9:54Speaker 2: be really interesting. USC's got some young DBs. We saw
- 9:57Speaker 2: uh warren game kind of doing dylan rayola kind of
- 10:00Speaker 2: handle them and if dylan rayola can do it granted
- 10:02Speaker 2: he's very experienced but he's not um you know he's
- 10:06Speaker 2: not as i don't know luke fay he's got some
- 10:07Speaker 2: skills we'll put it that way yeah.
- 10:09Speaker 1: And and he's going to be a little bit of
- 10:10Speaker 1: an unknown uh for usc going into that game so
- 10:14Speaker 1: there's going to be uh It's probably good that the
- 10:17Speaker 1: week off comes now because, man, oh, man, is there
- 10:19Speaker 1: going to be a lot to talk about over the
- 10:21Speaker 1: next two weeks as we count down those 13 days
- 10:23Speaker 1: to the USC game on Halloween. We'll find out on
- 10:27Speaker 1: Monday what time, well, unless they do a six-day window,
- 10:29Speaker 1: which sometimes they'll do just to mess with our travel plans.
- 10:32Speaker 1: But we should find out probably when on Monday what
- 10:35Speaker 1: time that kickoff will be for the USC game. So
- 10:38Speaker 1: we'll be talking about that and a whole bunch of
- 10:40Speaker 1: other stuff with you. at BuckeyeInsiders.com. This is one of
- 10:44Speaker 1: these weeks when I cannot wait to talk to our
- 10:46Speaker 1: Schieve Insiders and say, okay, what did they do? Why
- 10:50Speaker 1: did they do that? And okay, what the heck did
- 10:53Speaker 1: they do next? Because there is a lot to talk
- 10:55Speaker 1: about there in terms of this game, in terms of
- 10:58Speaker 1: the next game, in terms of the rest of the season.
- 10:59Speaker 1: We would love to talk about it with you all
- 11:02Speaker 1: at BuckeyeInsiders.com. Don't just talk about the team. Junk covers
- 11:06Speaker 1: recruiting for us there. A lot happening on the recruiting front.
- 11:09Speaker 1: Buckeyes got a commitment earlier this week.
- 11:11Speaker 2: Sure did.
- 11:12Speaker 1: A dog.
- 11:12Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 11:13Speaker 1: And going to be plenty of recruiting coverage. Got a
- 11:17Speaker 1: huge recruiting weekend coming up for the Oregon game. Going
- 11:21Speaker 1: to be a lot to talk about on that front.
- 11:23Speaker 1: Talked about the scheme stuff already. Basketball season. The Buckeyes
- 11:25Speaker 1: had their secret scrimmage on Saturday for the men's basketball team.
- 11:29Speaker 1: We'll be talking basketball there as well. All that with
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- 11:38Speaker 1: for joining us. Have a great day. We will talk
- 11:40Speaker 1: to you tomorrow.