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Sean O'Connell Show w/Porter Larsen - Full POD 2-5-26 · The Sean O'Connell Show

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Speaker 2: Hello there, welcome in Thursday edition of the Sean O'Connell Show.
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Speaker 2: I have commandeered the studio. No, I am not Shaw O'Connell.
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Speaker 2: I am not a world champion in the fighting realm,
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Speaker 2: not even a full time host of this program. I
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Speaker 2: am Porter Larson, of course producing the Dry with Spence.
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Speaker 2: Check its a little bit later on and behind the
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Speaker 2: glass for this show, One James Peterson. We are alive
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Speaker 2: on this Thursday, a busy, busy day in the sports world.
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Speaker 2: The NBA trade deadline that comes your way in one hour,
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Speaker 2: fifty nine minutes and five seconds from this very moment
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Speaker 2: as we speak. Of course Super Bowl sixty on the horizon,
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Speaker 2: as well the Utes, the Lady Utes in action last night.
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Speaker 3: Oh and just.
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Speaker 2: By the way, Day one of the Olympics opening ceremonies
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Speaker 2: technically start tomorrow, but we do have some Olympic events today,
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Speaker 2: so a whole bunch to get to.
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Speaker 3: We'll get to it all with you.
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Speaker 2: Give us a little story time. We'll share it on
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Speaker 2: the show. I'm still trying to decide which one I
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Speaker 2: actually remember watching. I'm one of those guys who I've
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Speaker 2: gone back and watched as much super Bowl playback as
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Speaker 2: I possibly could, some of them the full games, And
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember, like the actual specific time I
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Speaker 2: remember sitting down and watching a super Bowl would have
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Speaker 2: been around the turn of the century. I was, you know,
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Speaker 2: five six years old in that timeframe. So we'll dial
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Speaker 2: into that. We'll talk some super Bowl, we'll talk some NBA,
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Speaker 2: we'll talk some jazz uts and all of the above.
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Speaker 2: Olympics as well, and oh hey, I have aut some
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Speaker 2: profession bull riding in Salt Lake this weekend. Our friend
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Speaker 2: Kid Madson will stop by the program. We'll chat with him.
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Speaker 4: It's not a winter Olympic sport, because that would have
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Speaker 4: been your as you would have been the official bull
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Speaker 4: riding correspondent at the very k right at the very least.
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Speaker 4: I think it might have to go Summer Olympics.
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Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, it's not. Don't I say do it.
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Speaker 3: Let's let's have ice.
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Speaker 2: You can do it in the arena too. Uh, no,
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Speaker 2: no issue there, but yeah. Cad Madson, a pro bull
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Speaker 2: rider from right here in Utah, will stop by the program.
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Speaker 2: He's coming in studio to chat with us, as is
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Speaker 2: our favorite, my dog, Gordy Chieza.
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Speaker 3: Of course, Gordy.
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Speaker 2: Will be here at noon and he'll be with us
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Speaker 2: leading right up to the NBA trade deadline at one
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Speaker 2: pm Mountain time today, So a whole bunch of Gordy,
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Speaker 2: Cad Madson. And then at one one fifteen or so,
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Speaker 2: we'll we'll chat with Sean Sayed of Sumer Sports. He'll
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Speaker 2: give us the lowdown on Super Bowl sixty, give us
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Speaker 2: a little insight on what to expect. Our friend from
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Speaker 2: Sumer Sports will stop by in the one o'clock hour,
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Speaker 2: and then we'll hand it over to Spence. Check its
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Speaker 2: for the drive at two o'clock and I'll hop behind
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Speaker 2: that glass and stick around for the afternoon. We'll start
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Speaker 2: with little Uts on the running side in a game
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Speaker 2: in which they very much could have used a win,
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Speaker 2: and you know it's getting to a point where they
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Speaker 2: need to run off a couple of wins. Utah falls
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Speaker 2: to Arizona State seventy one sixty three at home. They
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Speaker 2: are nine and thirteen overall, now one in eight in
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Speaker 2: Big Twelve play, and the schedule doesn't get easy. That's
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Speaker 2: just the case once you get into the Big twelve slate.
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Speaker 2: So Alex Jensen year one, listen, we didn't expect. We
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Speaker 2: kind of knew that it was going to be somewhat
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Speaker 2: tough for Alex Jensen in his inaugural year. But you know,
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Speaker 2: there is some expectations to be competitive in last night.
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Speaker 2: They weren't in the first half, but boy were they
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Speaker 2: in the second half. Actually ended up being quite a
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Speaker 2: fun game down the stretch. Not quite enough. After Don
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Speaker 2: McHenry scored twenty three points, say do Treyori added sixteen,
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Speaker 2: but Utah could not come away with the victory against
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Speaker 2: Old Hurley and the Arizona State Sun Devils. As I mentioned,
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Speaker 2: Don McHenry with twenty three, say Do Treori was sixteen.
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Speaker 2: They were the only Utah players to score in double figures.
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Speaker 3: James A.
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Speaker 2: Konkuo had fourteen rebounds, Keanu Dawes had eleven rebounds. But
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Speaker 2: Terrence Brown, Terrence, who is really the driver for the
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Speaker 2: Utes offense throughout much of the year, had six points
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Speaker 2: on two of sixteen from the field. He couldn't connect
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Speaker 2: from distance. Five rebounds and six assists, which you like
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Speaker 2: to see he did, I think affect the game without scoring,
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Speaker 2: but on this roster, in particular, without Terrence Brown putting
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Speaker 2: the ball in the bucket, Utah only has a very
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Speaker 2: small window in order to win a basketball game. Right
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Speaker 2: There's there's not many roots that they can take to
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Speaker 2: win a game in the Big twelve. If Terrence Brown
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Speaker 2: isn't putting up, frankly twenty twenty five or more. Points,
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Speaker 2: that's the reality of this team. I think they have
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Speaker 2: a collection of some decent players, but they just don't
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Speaker 2: have any semblance of a unit quite yet, and a
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Speaker 2: lot of their offense when they do get things turning,
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Speaker 2: and they do get that engine churning. A lot of
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Speaker 2: their offense is very much one on one centric. It is, hey,
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Speaker 2: what can Terrence Brown do for us? Can Don mcchenry
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Speaker 2: start lighting it up from distance? That's really what they
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Speaker 2: rely on. Keanu Dawes on the same token, he is
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Speaker 2: a guy who gets his one on one with ball
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Speaker 2: in hand, and Utah needs to find a way to
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Speaker 2: get consistent buckets, get consistent offense going within an offensive scheme,
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Speaker 2: not just hey, our best player, we need you to
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Speaker 2: go beat your guy one on one and get to
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Speaker 2: the rim. Defensively, they've really been porous. Last night was
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Speaker 2: a little bit better, but Arizona State's not necessarily a
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Speaker 2: great litmus test for that. So for Alex Jensen, I
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Speaker 2: think he is as frustrated as anyone with this, and
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Speaker 2: you know, you give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Speaker 2: This is year one and it's going to take some time.
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Speaker 2: It was going to take some time, regardless that being said.
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Speaker 2: In this age of college basketball, in this age of
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Speaker 2: college sports in general, those turnovers happen quicker than they
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Speaker 2: used to. The transfer portal and il all of the above.
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Speaker 2: If you have things in order, you can turn a
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Speaker 2: program around pretty quick, and you might be expected to
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Speaker 2: turn around a program pretty quick, So we'll kind of
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Speaker 2: keep that in mind as the season goes along again,
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Speaker 2: as I mentioned, doesn't get any easier for the Utah
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Speaker 2: Utes as the Big twelve slate goes along. The next
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Speaker 2: one at Kansas, number eleven team in the country that
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Speaker 2: comes your way on the seventh to twelve thirty, and
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Speaker 2: then Houston probably I want to say, the best two
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Speaker 2: teams in the conference. Now Iowa State up there as
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Speaker 2: well BYU, although they have fallen off a little bit
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Speaker 2: over the last week or so. You have Kansas and
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Speaker 2: Houston in consecutive games and within three days of each other.
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Speaker 2: For Alex Jensen and co. It's an opportunity to gauge
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Speaker 2: yourself against legitimately two of the best teams in college basketball.
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Speaker 2: But it's also not necessarily a welcome site to see
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Speaker 2: two opponents that are that good, that daunting on your schedule.
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Speaker 2: I think Houston is probably the best team in the conference. Kansas, though,
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Speaker 2: is probably the hottest team in the conference right now
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Speaker 2: as we head into the weekend that will be for
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Speaker 2: the University of Utah oh and did I mention they're
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Speaker 2: at Kansas. So Bill Riley, the voice of the youths,
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Speaker 2: will head back to Manhattan, I believe for the first
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Speaker 2: time in fog Allen since he was a student there.
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Speaker 3: So that'll be fun for Bill. I am sure.
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Speaker 2: Sean Mooney, I know, was excited about seeing a game there.
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Speaker 2: But for Alex and co. It's about going and being competitive.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 2: I don't think there's much expectation that they go into
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Speaker 2: Manhattan and get a win in fog Allen. That's something
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Speaker 2: that very rarely happens, even with teams that are contending,
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Speaker 2: teams that are competing for Big twelve championships. So for Utah,
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Speaker 2: you just want to see I want to see some
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Speaker 2: organizational basketball. I want to see them start to get
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Speaker 2: a feel of Alex Jensen's systems. Alex Jensen's identity, whether
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Speaker 2: you win a game or not, that is something that
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Speaker 2: we still just haven't seen much of. We don't know
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Speaker 2: what it will look like. Right There's there's going to
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Speaker 2: be a feel of Alex Jensen maybe taking some things
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Speaker 2: from Rick majeris, taking some things from his time at
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Speaker 2: the professional level and going forward, But what does his
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Speaker 2: team identity look like? What does that bring in the
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Speaker 2: form of you know what type of basketball we're watching.
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Speaker 2: Everyone always says we like to push the tempo, we
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Speaker 2: like to run, we like to get out and get
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Speaker 2: on the fast break, and you know, let our players
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Speaker 2: get out in the open floor. There's always an emphasis
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Speaker 2: on defense, and with Alex's teams back in the day
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Speaker 2: crashing the glass, So you wonder what that really looks
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Speaker 2: like once this team gets going, and I think against
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Speaker 2: teams like Kansas against Houston, it's more important to see
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Speaker 2: that than it is to expect to come out of
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Speaker 2: there with a W or anything like that. So Kansas
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Speaker 2: Houston on the seventh and the tenth, those games are
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Speaker 2: both going to be televised. You can see him on
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Speaker 2: Fox and ESPN two and of course on your home
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Speaker 2: of the Youth since nineteen fifty one ESPN seven hundred.
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Speaker 2: On Lady's side, Gavin Peterson squad, they are, they're rolling
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Speaker 2: a little bit right now. Another road win for them,
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Speaker 2: this one way out in Orlando over UCF sixty seven
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Speaker 2: fifty seven. The final score they are Lonnie White with
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Speaker 2: twenty two points. Matty Wilke adds eighteen for the Youths,
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Speaker 2: while Rhys Ross had six nine rebounds, and two steals
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Speaker 2: in the game. No bench players in double figures. It
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Speaker 2: really was the starting five who pushed things for Utah
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Speaker 2: and got things going there. It is sixty seven to
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Speaker 2: fifty seven the final score. Utah now sixteen and seven overall,
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Speaker 2: seven and four in the Big Twelve. So when you
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Speaker 2: look at the Big Twelve standings and you look at
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Speaker 2: what Gavin Peterson has in front of him, this is
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Speaker 2: a team that could be playing some postseason basketball in
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Speaker 2: the NC Double A Tournament. It's a conference that's gonna
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Speaker 2: put I think a bunch of teams in the NC
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Speaker 2: Double A Tournament. But right now you have a bunch
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Speaker 2: of teams kind of clustered at the six and five
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Speaker 2: barely over five hundred, and then Utah at seven and
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Speaker 2: four alongside Oklahoma State, and then the rest of the
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Speaker 2: teams in the Big Twelve that are ahead of Utah
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Speaker 2: are ranked Texas Tech at eighteen, West Virginia at twenty,
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Speaker 2: Baylor at fifteen, and of course TCU at fourteen. So
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Speaker 2: the conference slate won't be easy, but this is a
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Speaker 2: team that if they can finish strong and if they
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Speaker 2: can continue on the run of play that they've had
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Speaker 2: in the last week or so. Gavin Peterson and the
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Speaker 2: Utes on the Lady's side could be playing some tournament basketball.
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Speaker 2: Will keep an eye on them as we always do.
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Speaker 2: Next up for Utah on the schedule is Iowa State
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Speaker 2: five pm on the seventh, and then Arizona State right
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Speaker 2: after that. That game is on the road while Iowa
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Speaker 2: State here in Salt Lake City. They'll like to return
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Speaker 2: home after taking that trip way out to Orlando. Always
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Speaker 2: impressive when you can get a win that far away
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Speaker 2: from your home arena. So Gavin Peterson and the Lady Utes,
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Speaker 2: good job on them last night. Will continue to follow
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Speaker 2: them as they go. NBA trade deadline. That is kind
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Speaker 2: of the storyline of this market over the last forty
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Speaker 2: eight hours.
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Speaker 3: Because the Jazz, who.
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Speaker 2: Were not expected to be buyers, necessarily through the trade deadline.
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Speaker 2: There was some anticipation that we'd see them make some
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Speaker 2: ancillary moves, some moves to free up cap space or
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Speaker 2: or you know, maybe continue to pile up assets in
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Speaker 2: the draft. What they did instead was they went out
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Speaker 2: and got maybe the best available piece on the market
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Speaker 2: in Jaron Jackson Junior. And you know, I know Jannisnotokoupo.
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Speaker 2: There's been a lot to talk about him being traded
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Speaker 2: Jamorant as well. Sounds like the Milwaukee Bucks are gonna
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Speaker 2: stand pat On Giannis up ahead of the one pm
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Speaker 2: trade deadline. I would not be surprised if Memphis sends
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Speaker 2: Ja Morant somewhere, but that's based on them finding a
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Speaker 2: suitor as well. But yeah, the Jazz after not really
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Speaker 2: expecting to be a buyer at the deadline. That's exactly
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Speaker 2: what they have been. Jaron Jackson, Junior, Vince Williams, Chris Bouchet,
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Speaker 2: these guys are all on the way to Utah. That
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Speaker 2: last one I just mentioned just came across the line
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Speaker 2: as the Jazz acquired Chris Bouchet from the Celtics for
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Speaker 2: probably not necessarily a whole lot. It looks like Utah
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Speaker 2: is getting Denver's twenty twenty seven second round pick and
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Speaker 2: then sending salary and tax to the Celtics in order
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Speaker 2: for some savings on that side.
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Speaker 4: So they got so that's the third second round pick
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Speaker 4: they've also gotten in the last to the last three days,
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Speaker 4: because they remember Jonzo Ball was a Jazz Man for
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Speaker 4: like three hours. But they got two second round picks
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Speaker 4: as well, so that I mean second rounders, not anything to.
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Speaker 3: Get too excited about.
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Speaker 4: But you have to remember they they did deal to
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Speaker 4: second rounders to get Walter Clayton Junior to move up
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Speaker 4: to get him and who they just traded away, So
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Speaker 4: they kind of recoups what they used to move up
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Speaker 4: in the draft this year.
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Speaker 2: That's not nothing. And the other part of these draft
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Speaker 2: picks that I've and a lot of people around the
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Speaker 2: league have started to notice, well, teams are not necessarily
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Speaker 2: holding on to twenty twenty seven draft picks.
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Speaker 3: It's it's.
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Speaker 2: It's really seen as a draft that is much less
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Speaker 2: valid val you bowl then this.
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Speaker 3: Year's for sure.
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Speaker 2: The twenty twenty six draft is seen by a lot
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Speaker 2: of experts as a one of the best draft classes
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Speaker 2: in the last decade or so. Whereas the twenty twenty
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Speaker 2: seven picks they're flying off the shelves. A lot of
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Speaker 2: teams are perfectly content sending twenty twenty seven picks away.
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Speaker 2: And yeah, like James said, Utah kind of recoups here
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Speaker 2: in this Chris Bouchet trade, the two second round picks
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Speaker 2: that they sent off for a Lonzo Ball and then
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Speaker 2: opening up a bunch of a bunch of cap space. Now,
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Speaker 2: the Jazz have also made some other moves. This one
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Speaker 2: was reported originally as a separate move, but it is
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Speaker 2: actually in the same one. That is Jock Landel to
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Speaker 2: Atlanta for cash considerations. That was tied up in the
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Speaker 2: Lonzo ball deal and then.
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Speaker 4: The indirectly and the Jared Jackson Junior deal because Jock
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Speaker 4: Landale came over with Jared Jackson Junior. So you know,
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Speaker 4: get the tribute video ready for Chuck Landale.
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Speaker 3: There you go.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jaron Jackson Junior comes by way of Memphis. The
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Speaker 2: Jazz get LA in twenty twenty seven, their own pick
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty seven, and the Sun's pick in twenty
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Speaker 2: thirty one. Those head to Memphis and in return Walter
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Speaker 2: Clayton Junior, Kyle Anderson, Taylor Hendrix, George Niang.
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Speaker 4: Did the minivan end up playing a game for the
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Speaker 4: Jazz and his return. He may have played like one
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Speaker 4: or two.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he saw the floor, but it wasn't
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Speaker 2: anywhere near what a lot of folks were expecting.
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Speaker 3: Of course, John's hurt. Yeah, basically all year.
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Speaker 2: John conchar and then Vince Williams also coming to Utah
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Speaker 2: and the second one there, Vince Williams. I think it's
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Speaker 2: a little under talked about. He may be as of today,
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Speaker 2: the best perimeter defender on the Jazz roster. Now he's
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Speaker 2: long been talked about his us that just the perimeter
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Speaker 2: defender just kind of a stopper you can throw out
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Speaker 2: there and and you know, get some benchminutes on a
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Speaker 2: guy that can guard probably the other team's best outside threat,
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Speaker 2: and he's good at that. But you also saw him
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Speaker 2: bring up his point totals the last couple of games.
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Speaker 2: I wonder how much of that was Memphis knowing he's
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Speaker 2: going to be on the trading block and trying to
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Speaker 2: just keep or even up his value a little bit.
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Speaker 2: That is often part of it. But with Vince Williams
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Speaker 2: Junior is at least among the best two or three
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Speaker 2: perimeter defenders on the Jazz roster.
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Speaker 3: The second that.
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Speaker 4: He gets here, I think you're probably right, he's probably
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Speaker 4: the best one because they just haven't had any right so,
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Speaker 4: and even Tony Jones and his piece for The Athletic
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Speaker 4: writing about the Jaron Jackson junior trade, he said he
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Speaker 4: labeled him as one of the best perimeter defenders in
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Speaker 4: the league, which pretty good kept secret because he's been
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Speaker 4: on a bad Memphis team the last couple of years,
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Speaker 4: So that should get Jazz fans and Will Hardy pretty excited.
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Speaker 4: The other thing, speaking of Will Hardy, you talk about
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Speaker 4: how his point, how he's had a few good scoring
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Speaker 4: games the last few weeks. Will Hardy has said a
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Speaker 4: bunch of times over this these last three years, three
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Speaker 4: and a half years, in his media availabilities, someone has
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Speaker 4: to score the points, yep. And everyone who's in the NBA,
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Speaker 4: if they're given shots, can score twenty points.
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Speaker 3: And so Vince Williams.
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Speaker 4: Now, hopefully Will Hardy, who has shown great offensive acumen,
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Speaker 4: hopefully in this system, Vince Williams can give you something
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Speaker 4: on the offensive side too.
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Speaker 3: But it's a little deceiving.
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Speaker 4: You got to understand he was playing for a team
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Speaker 4: that's basically like the Jazz and the Grizzlies last couple
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Speaker 4: of years, and like Will Hardy says, someone's got to
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Speaker 4: score the points, it doesn't necessarily mean that that's something
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Speaker 4: to expect.
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Speaker 3: Yeah him here, I think that it's the hope.
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Speaker 2: It's the hope that you get a guy who you
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Speaker 2: can throw out there defensively really on any sort of
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Speaker 2: roster against any sort of opponent, and the hope is
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Speaker 2: that you can now maybe mold his offensive game to
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Speaker 2: fit your system. Plus on that side too, Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 2: just get him a jump shot and get that developing
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Speaker 2: as much as you can. And I think you have
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Speaker 2: a pretty solid rotational piece in that. Regard other trades,
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Speaker 2: I don't know that the Jazz will make any more.
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Speaker 2: I think the Chris Bouchet trade might have been the
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Speaker 2: ancillary piece that we were kind of waiting for for
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Speaker 2: the Jazz to maybe clear up a few more spots.
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Speaker 4: He's another guy that can be a plus defender. By
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Speaker 4: the way, Utah fans will probably remember him from Oregon
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Speaker 4: I back twelve days. He was very highly touted, had
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Speaker 4: some injuries there, and he's had a nice NBA career
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Speaker 4: as a bench guy very long. That's a guy that
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Speaker 4: I could see helping on the defensive end too.
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Speaker 2: And when you are looking at what the Jazzs have done,
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Speaker 2: Jaren Jackson Junior of course added to the lineup with
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Speaker 2: Lowry markin in with as Bailey with a currently Walker
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Speaker 2: Kessler Junior or Walker Kessler, They're just they're bringing in
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Speaker 2: a lot of length and for me, when you're talking
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Speaker 2: about a league that is going kind of positionless. Not
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Speaker 2: a bad idea to bring in a lot of guys
21:27
Speaker 2: who can defend, defend multiple positions and that length. It
21:32
Speaker 2: closes the floor down against your opponents on the defensive side,
21:36
Speaker 2: and it can be a real plus when you add
21:38
Speaker 2: a lot of it together. If you were to put
21:40
Speaker 2: the a starting lineup together of Jaron Jackson junior, of
21:43
Speaker 2: Walker Kessler, Lowry markinen Ace Bailey, and then really add
21:48
Speaker 2: in whoever else you want, you'd have the tallest starting
21:51
Speaker 2: lineup in league history right there, with several guys over
21:54
Speaker 2: seven feet. Throw Chris Bouchet in there. Throw Vince Williams
21:58
Speaker 2: Junior in there, who's a pretty rangey defense. Well, it
22:01
Speaker 2: seems clear that this is the identity of what the
22:04
Speaker 2: Jazz are wanting to build towards, and I would expect
22:08
Speaker 2: roster moves in the future to include that. Now they
22:12
Speaker 2: gotta have guys with the ball in hand. Keyantay George
22:14
Speaker 2: has taking an unusual step upward over the course of
22:18
Speaker 2: the last year. I know when you're looking at draft picks,
22:21
Speaker 2: you're looking at Darren Peterson, You're looking at aj Debonsa,
22:24
Speaker 2: You're gonna look at guys that are going to be
22:26
Speaker 2: playing on the wing and have the ball in hand
22:28
Speaker 2: type skills to add to your offensive side. And of
22:32
Speaker 2: course who can be plus defenders as well, So we'll
22:35
Speaker 2: get to all the jazz stuff. Cordy Chase is going
22:37
Speaker 2: to be here for an entire hour. But how about
22:40
Speaker 2: Super Bowl sixty The Seahawks and the Patriots meet once.
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Speaker 3: Again for all of the marbles.
22:48
Speaker 2: The big game comes your way Sunday, and couldn't be
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Speaker 2: more excited for it. We asked some Texters. We asked
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Speaker 2: some folks on the Twitter line. Your first memory of
23:00
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl?
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Speaker 3: Right?
23:02
Speaker 2: Not just uh, I think I remember watching that game,
23:05
Speaker 2: but when when you sat down you remember watching the
23:08
Speaker 2: Super Bowl? Hell, maybe you remember a commercial from it?
23:11
Speaker 2: When was that and which one was that? When you
23:15
Speaker 2: were just in your formative years of a football fan. Hey,
23:19
Speaker 2: maybe you're a new football fan and this wasn't too
23:21
Speaker 2: long ago for me, And this will age me a
23:24
Speaker 2: little bit in the I know a lot of listeners
23:27
Speaker 2: think that this makes me too young. I think it's
23:30
Speaker 2: two thousand. I think it was Saint Louis and Tennessee. Uh,
23:35
Speaker 2: the the one short I believe I believe that is
23:40
Speaker 2: the first Super Bowl I specifically remember watching.
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Speaker 5: Now.
23:44
Speaker 4: Is is this like you remember basically the whole game,
23:49
Speaker 4: or like I remember watching that game.
23:52
Speaker 2: I was six years old, right, so it was early on,
23:54
Speaker 2: but that was right about the time you start getting
23:57
Speaker 2: ready to play some gremlin football.
23:58
Speaker 3: Right, You're in. You're now a.
24:01
Speaker 2: Part of this community, whereas before that, I was a
24:07
Speaker 2: a diaper wearing Cowboys fan, Right, I was a legitimate
24:12
Speaker 2: child sitting there watching the game with Pooh in my pants. Right,
24:16
Speaker 2: And yeah, you unfortunately missed the gory the last glory years.
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Speaker 4: I was alive for them, Like I said, I was
24:24
Speaker 4: alive for them, but I was eating formula and in
24:30
Speaker 4: a crib. And like I said, I've gone back and
24:33
Speaker 4: watched like every super Bowl that I can. So I
24:37
Speaker 4: have these moments where I'm like, I.
24:38
Speaker 2: Kind of I feel like I remember that, but I
24:41
Speaker 2: I don't actually remember that, right. The first one definitely
24:45
Speaker 2: the two thousand Super Bowl, the Titans and the Titans
24:51
Speaker 2: and the Saint Louis Rams. So we'll get to all
24:53
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24:56
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Speaker 1: Oh, you're tuned to The Sean O'Connell Show from the
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Speaker 2: Welcome back, in Sean O'Connell show today, I am filling
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Speaker 3: He's headed to Dubai for some PFL action.
26:16
Speaker 2: Of course, he's the voice of the Pro Fighters League
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Speaker 2: on ESPN. How about some PFL to PBR, some pro
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Speaker 2: bull riding on the station and in the market this weekend,
26:27
Speaker 2: of course PBR at the Delta Center February sixth and seventh.
26:32
Speaker 2: Of course seven five is when they get going, So uh,
26:37
Speaker 2: take your take your date out there, do your thing
26:39
Speaker 2: over the weekend. It's a it's a good night capper
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Speaker 2: at pro bull Riding and in studio with us. Big
26:47
Speaker 2: thanks to our friends at the PBR and Kaden Madson,
26:50
Speaker 2: hometown kid coming out of Honeyville, Utah and competing in
26:55
Speaker 2: the Salt Lake City shootout. I guess I guess we're
26:57
Speaker 2: calling it here as the PBR descend upon Salt Lake. Kate,
27:00
Speaker 2: how's it going, man?
27:01
Speaker 3: Good? Thank for having me. Absolutely welcome in.
27:05
Speaker 2: Now we'll get into all the PBR stuff, we'll get
27:08
Speaker 2: into the the schedule for the weekend, but let's get
27:11
Speaker 2: some of your background. A local kid, You're from Honeyville.
27:14
Speaker 2: Folks around Utah, I think a lot of folks know,
27:17
Speaker 2: you know, it's in Tremont area. Small town though, So
27:20
Speaker 2: my assumption is that that Rodeo ranching stuff that that
27:25
Speaker 2: kind of you were kind of born into it before
27:28
Speaker 2: you you became an athlete. Give us a little bit
27:29
Speaker 2: of your background growing up there.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely. So I'm I'm born and raised in Honeyville, Utah.
27:34
Speaker 7: And just like you said, it is a very small town.
27:36
Speaker 7: And so, you know, ever since I was a little
27:38
Speaker 7: kid riding horses and roping and things like that, I
27:42
Speaker 7: have siblings that, you know, an older brother that rides
27:44
Speaker 7: bulls and stuff, and so I looked up to him
27:46
Speaker 7: and and just kind of followed into his footsteps. Grew
27:49
Speaker 7: up watching the movie Eight Seconds, and so that's kind
27:51
Speaker 7: of how you know, he got his inspiration, and then
27:54
Speaker 7: you know, I got my inspiration from him. And so, yeah,
27:56
Speaker 7: Rodeo has been, you know, a big part of my
27:58
Speaker 7: life all growing up. It's pretty well the only sport
28:00
Speaker 7: that I've ever done.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, Eight Seconds was.
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Speaker 4: I mean, even folks who aren't Rodeo fans watching the
28:06
Speaker 4: lane frost tough heating in the story is is just
28:09
Speaker 4: it's great cinema. It's it's perfect for what we've got
28:12
Speaker 4: going on here at the at the PBR. Your background,
28:16
Speaker 4: and this is one of the reasons I love Rodeo.
28:19
Speaker 4: It's not just like basketball where you're throwing a ball
28:23
Speaker 4: into a bucket and it's it's a it's a game.
28:25
Speaker 4: There's a background from rodeo where it comes from guys
28:29
Speaker 4: that were breaking horses so that they could work, right
28:32
Speaker 4: that it comes from a ranching background that has roots
28:36
Speaker 4: in like real life. Use give me an idea of
28:40
Speaker 4: what what it feels like to turn that type of
28:42
Speaker 4: lifestyle into making a living.
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Speaker 7: Yes, sirry, Yeah, you're exactly right. It's come a long
28:47
Speaker 7: ways than the last little while. You know, there for
28:50
Speaker 7: a while it was just kind of like a hobby
28:52
Speaker 7: or something that you did way of life. And now
28:55
Speaker 7: that the PBR has made it so that we can,
28:57
Speaker 7: you know, make a living at it something that you
28:59
Speaker 7: love to do. And so for me, it's it's my
29:01
Speaker 7: full time job. It's it's what I do. And so
29:04
Speaker 7: day in and day out, I'm in the gym working towards,
29:06
Speaker 7: you know, strengthening myself so that my body's in tip
29:08
Speaker 7: top shape, whether it's you know, riding bulls at the
29:11
Speaker 7: house and the practice pen or riding horses and open
29:15
Speaker 7: It's everything just to get me ready so that when
29:17
Speaker 7: you know, we go on the weekends, that I'm ready
29:19
Speaker 7: to win, you know, ride at the best of my ability.
29:22
Speaker 2: It really has changed the last i want to say,
29:24
Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty years where again, like we were talking about,
29:27
Speaker 2: it was a bunch of guys who were full time cowboys,
29:30
Speaker 2: meaning that they worked on a ranch, they did their thing,
29:33
Speaker 2: and then maybe to make some money to supplement the
29:36
Speaker 2: ranch or to to to get ahead, they'd go try
29:39
Speaker 2: to last eight seconds on a bowl. Now you've got
29:42
Speaker 2: guys that are coming in a lot of the guys
29:44
Speaker 2: from Brazil who you know, they're just athletes, they're full
29:48
Speaker 2: time athletes. There's there's no a lot of them, not
29:52
Speaker 2: not even in a ranching background. So it's it's now
29:54
Speaker 2: kind of transitioned into a place, especially as you mentioned
29:56
Speaker 2: with the PBR, where it is the full time gig.
30:00
Speaker 2: It's not a side gig. It's not something you're doing
30:03
Speaker 2: on the on the side just to get by. It's
30:06
Speaker 2: it's interesting to watch it transition. Now you're twenty years old,
30:08
Speaker 2: so you maybe haven't seen a whole lot of that
30:10
Speaker 2: as much you've kind of grown up in probably a
30:13
Speaker 2: place where it is more of a full time sport,
30:16
Speaker 2: but that that's cool to get that background.
30:19
Speaker 3: I I wonder.
30:20
Speaker 2: I grew up in Oakley, so right in the shadows
30:23
Speaker 2: of the of the Oakley Rodeo, and loved watching all
30:26
Speaker 2: the guys that I grew up around, you know, try
30:29
Speaker 2: to make their way to get into that rodeo, get
30:31
Speaker 2: into some PRCA events. You of course go full time
30:36
Speaker 2: in PBR. You do some other rough stock stuff as well. Though,
30:40
Speaker 2: So how does how does your schedule throughout the year
30:43
Speaker 2: kind of formulate when you've got the PBR, maybe some
30:45
Speaker 2: PRCA events, maybe some events around your your local community.
30:49
Speaker 2: What does that look like for you trying to to
30:51
Speaker 2: fit all that in.
30:52
Speaker 7: Yeah, for sure, I I definitely enjoy all aspects of
30:57
Speaker 7: of just being a cowboy, and so I try to
30:59
Speaker 7: you know, get back and you know, ride some brons
31:01
Speaker 7: for some barebacks or rope when I can. But you know,
31:03
Speaker 7: the the big rocks in the bucket is the PBR,
31:05
Speaker 7: and so that's kind of where my my schedule takes
31:08
Speaker 7: shape around is I'm making sure that I'm there on
31:10
Speaker 7: the weekends, but you know, fortunate to the state of Utah.
31:13
Speaker 7: We have a lot of really good rodeos and fairs
31:15
Speaker 7: throughout the summer that you know, some of them start
31:18
Speaker 7: on a Thursday, and so I typically will try to
31:19
Speaker 7: make one on a Thursday and then fly out Friday
31:22
Speaker 7: morning to make it to the PBRs. Because you know,
31:24
Speaker 7: for me and my career, getting to where I'm at
31:27
Speaker 7: today came a lot from riding horses and just being
31:31
Speaker 7: a way of life every single day.
31:33
Speaker 3: And so that's that's kind of.
31:35
Speaker 7: Where I you know, revert back to to get me ready,
31:38
Speaker 7: as you know, whether I'm riding bucking horses or anything
31:40
Speaker 7: like that, I try to, you know, do it as
31:42
Speaker 7: much as I can before I go to the PBRs.
31:44
Speaker 2: So the more you're on a big old, big old
31:47
Speaker 2: animal getting bucked around, the more natural it feels. Right, Yeah,
31:52
Speaker 2: did you have did you ever any any situations before
31:57
Speaker 2: you became like a rough stock guy where maybe you
32:00
Speaker 2: didn't mean to be on a bucking horse but it happened,
32:03
Speaker 2: Like any any moments on the ranch where that was
32:07
Speaker 2: a formative moment for you where oh maybe I could
32:10
Speaker 2: actually do this intentionally or was it the mini bulls,
32:14
Speaker 2: the whole shebang?
32:16
Speaker 3: From the start, Were you always trying to get on
32:17
Speaker 3: bucking animals?
32:18
Speaker 7: Yeah, just having my older brother as an example, and
32:22
Speaker 7: you know, seeing him ride, I've just always just kind
32:25
Speaker 7: of like went towards that and wanted to be doing
32:27
Speaker 7: whatever he was doing. In the beginning, it was something
32:30
Speaker 7: that really scared me. And to start with it, it
32:34
Speaker 7: wasn't something that I could really see myself doing long
32:36
Speaker 7: term because I had to get over that fear. But
32:38
Speaker 7: you know, as you get older and I kind of
32:41
Speaker 7: recognized that I had some some was blessed with some
32:43
Speaker 7: talent and things like that, and things like that, and
32:46
Speaker 7: it was a good way to make a living that
32:47
Speaker 7: they'll pay if you stay on, and so you know,
32:49
Speaker 7: I got over that fear. So it's always I've just been, yeah,
32:52
Speaker 7: looking to ride something that bucks ever since I was little.
32:54
Speaker 2: It was, i want to say, almost the opposite for me.
32:58
Speaker 2: I still like to ride and do the thing. But
33:00
Speaker 2: the first time that I had a horse buck on me,
33:03
Speaker 2: it was it wasn't good. I face forward, hit its
33:07
Speaker 2: head and I was out. I was out cold. So
33:08
Speaker 2: I got hung up underneath the horse, broken arms, all
33:11
Speaker 2: the all the shebang, and and after that, I was
33:14
Speaker 2: like hmm, I'm gonna let the real cowboys. I'm gonna
33:17
Speaker 2: let I'm gonna let them do that.
33:18
Speaker 5: Now.
33:19
Speaker 4: Uh, it was it was kind of the opposite experience
33:21
Speaker 4: in that regard.
33:22
Speaker 3: Now, I do want to ask you.
33:25
Speaker 2: You mentioned your brother Briggs, your influences in in rodeo,
33:30
Speaker 2: in maybe bull riding, but just rough stock in general.
33:33
Speaker 2: What does that look like maybe Briggs, but maybe outside
33:35
Speaker 2: of that too.
33:35
Speaker 7: Yeah, So from a young age, I always loved watching
33:39
Speaker 7: the NFRM, watching the bar back riding specifically, and Casey Field.
33:43
Speaker 7: He's a Utah Native world champion marhyback riding multily, multi
33:46
Speaker 7: time world champion bhiback rider, and so I always wanted
33:49
Speaker 7: to be him from a young age. And so the
33:52
Speaker 7: bareback riding is really where I kind of got the
33:56
Speaker 7: the competitive edge from, you know, junior high, high school
33:58
Speaker 7: and stuff like that. But outside of that, you know,
34:01
Speaker 7: grew up watching the PBR with my brother and so
34:04
Speaker 7: people like Luke Snyder, who's actually he's my coach now
34:08
Speaker 7: on the Missouri Thunder. But really it's always been like
34:12
Speaker 7: my older brother Briggs, and then my dad because he
34:14
Speaker 7: also rode bucking horses. Because those are the people that
34:17
Speaker 7: you know you interact with that were always you know,
34:19
Speaker 7: supporting me, helping me do whatever it was to be
34:23
Speaker 7: the best.
34:23
Speaker 3: So I love that you bring up Casey.
34:25
Speaker 2: He's he's now down I think in central Utah, but
34:27
Speaker 2: his dad, Lewis, is from Oakley. He's he's a south
34:30
Speaker 2: Stommach guy and and was really good friends with my
34:33
Speaker 2: uncles and was an influence on my uncle becoming a
34:36
Speaker 2: bull rider and in a rough stock guy. And so
34:39
Speaker 2: I grew up with Casey's cousins and all the fields
34:41
Speaker 2: up there and just loved watching his career. And you
34:47
Speaker 2: mentioned it seven times World champ. I think, yeah, it's
34:50
Speaker 2: up there. It's it's over four for sure. I well,
34:54
Speaker 2: and then he came back in one another one like
34:56
Speaker 2: just out of the blue. So Casey Field probably the
34:59
Speaker 2: best to ever do it in that regard. But Utah
35:02
Speaker 2: has a rich history of competing cowboys. Man, It's it's
35:05
Speaker 2: really fun to watch.
35:06
Speaker 5: You know.
35:06
Speaker 3: You get to the NFR now.
35:08
Speaker 2: I know your goals right now are to get to
35:10
Speaker 2: the finals in May rather than December in Vegas. But
35:14
Speaker 2: every year you tune in and the right brothers the
35:17
Speaker 2: you know, you just look all over and there's guys
35:19
Speaker 2: from Utah that are doing it. Is that you know,
35:22
Speaker 2: a rising shot tide always lifts all boats, right, But
35:24
Speaker 2: is that something that growing up in in seeing that competition,
35:28
Speaker 2: do you feel like kind of drew you and drove
35:31
Speaker 2: you to to just be better seeing that, you know,
35:34
Speaker 2: going all around the country, there's there's cowboys that are
35:36
Speaker 2: doing the thing, but here in Utah seems like it's
35:39
Speaker 2: it's really really competitive.
35:41
Speaker 7: Yeah, most definitely, Like I feel like Texas and stuff
35:44
Speaker 7: gets the reputation for having the best cowboys, and I
35:47
Speaker 7: would definitely say that there's a lot more cowboys and
35:50
Speaker 7: you know the cowboy lifestyle in Texas in those places.
35:53
Speaker 7: But you know, quality over quantity for sure. Here in Utah.
35:57
Speaker 7: Like most of the cowboys that come out of Utah
35:59
Speaker 7: like they're they're very talented, Like you see it, you
36:02
Speaker 7: know throughout the years, you know Casey Phil Yeah, you know,
36:06
Speaker 7: multi world champions that come out of Utah. And so
36:08
Speaker 7: for me, you know, seeing that, it's definitely been you know,
36:11
Speaker 7: whether it was high school radio, there was always somebody
36:13
Speaker 7: that you know was very talented that would push you
36:15
Speaker 7: to be better. And that's always good for you, you know,
36:18
Speaker 7: having somebody to push you.
36:20
Speaker 4: So most definitely, what are your goals when it comes
36:24
Speaker 4: to long term? This is a sport that it can
36:28
Speaker 4: tear you up and churn you out pretty quick, right,
36:30
Speaker 4: But even if you have a five ten year career,
36:34
Speaker 4: what does that look like on the back end. You've
36:36
Speaker 4: already gone and competed, you've already won events, but I'm
36:39
Speaker 4: sure you're you're angling for a gold buckle.
36:41
Speaker 3: Two.
36:42
Speaker 7: Yeah, most definitely, that is definitely something that I have
36:45
Speaker 7: in my goals as to be a world champion right now.
36:48
Speaker 7: You know, we're in the midst of the PBR, the
36:50
Speaker 7: individual season right now, and so it'd be in my
36:53
Speaker 7: first year. I'm looking to win the Rookie of the
36:55
Speaker 7: Year come May and then hit at full force next
36:58
Speaker 7: year to win a world title. And I know, you know,
37:01
Speaker 7: it's a it's a young man's game for sure, and
37:03
Speaker 7: so I know I can't do this forever, and so
37:05
Speaker 7: dedicate in all my time and stuff for now to
37:08
Speaker 7: accomplish those goals.
37:09
Speaker 3: Most definitely give.
37:10
Speaker 4: Folks a little insight on the difference with PBR, and
37:15
Speaker 4: you know, just the rodeo that they go to on
37:18
Speaker 4: a Thursday Friday night where you've got the you've got
37:22
Speaker 4: the team rope, and you've got the calf rope, calf stuff,
37:25
Speaker 4: you've got the barrel race, and with PBR, it's all
37:28
Speaker 4: about bull riding, but there's also a kind of a
37:30
Speaker 4: newer aspect of it where you guys are.
37:32
Speaker 2: Competing as teams. You guys are competing as these organizations.
37:35
Speaker 2: It adds an interesting and I think really exciting and
37:38
Speaker 2: fun dynamic to it, especially for TV.
37:41
Speaker 3: Right, you've made it like a different event.
37:43
Speaker 2: How does how does that kind of all come together
37:46
Speaker 2: into what you guys are putting out because it's the
37:49
Speaker 2: Missouri thunder right, so which you're rolling with. So just
37:52
Speaker 2: tell us a little bit about that. How you work
37:53
Speaker 2: as a team in such an individual sport. Yeah, so,
37:56
Speaker 2: just like you said, like the PBR, it's all bull riding. Like,
37:59
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong on love watching all the other events,
38:01
Speaker 2: but most people I'd probably say is, you know, they're
38:03
Speaker 2: anticipating the bull riding because it's it's the most dangerous
38:06
Speaker 2: and it's you know, the most action packed, and so
38:09
Speaker 2: it's all bull riding. In with the teams, it's it's
38:11
Speaker 2: you know, just the same they're five on five games,
38:14
Speaker 2: we play against another team, whoever it might be, and
38:18
Speaker 2: the wins happen individually.
38:19
Speaker 3: Like we still got to ride our bowl.
38:21
Speaker 7: We're still scored, you know, rider one to fifty bowl
38:24
Speaker 7: one to fifty possible of one hundred points. And so
38:27
Speaker 7: it adds an aspect of more accountability, you know what
38:31
Speaker 7: I mean, Like going on the weekends, you get bucked off.
38:33
Speaker 3: It's just you, you know what I mean.
38:35
Speaker 7: But you're riding for somebody else too, you know, four
38:38
Speaker 7: other guys on a team and they're they're depending on
38:40
Speaker 7: you to do your job so that they can feed
38:42
Speaker 7: their family. Because, like I said, this is how we
38:44
Speaker 7: make our living. And so it's really a cool aspect
38:47
Speaker 7: to be able to, you know, be with a team
38:50
Speaker 7: and the camaraderie and things like that, each and every
38:52
Speaker 7: person pushing each other to be better, to you know,
38:55
Speaker 7: ultimately to win. And so it's something that it really
38:58
Speaker 7: helped me. I got to ride for one season before
39:01
Speaker 7: I went on my mission back in twenty twenty three
39:04
Speaker 7: for the Missouri Thunder, and really it helped me a lot.
39:07
Speaker 7: It was, you know, I was eighteen years old, so
39:09
Speaker 7: I was young, and I felt like it helped me
39:11
Speaker 7: a lot to be able to develop into the bull
39:13
Speaker 7: rider of them today, Well.
39:15
Speaker 4: You're eighteen years old, but you won some events. You
39:17
Speaker 4: kind of splashed onto the scene of PBR and then
39:20
Speaker 4: everyone was like.
39:21
Speaker 3: Where'd this kid go? What was that experience?
39:23
Speaker 6: Like?
39:23
Speaker 2: Where now growing up in Utah, everyone kind of knows
39:26
Speaker 2: the deal with the LDS mission, But how was that
39:30
Speaker 2: for your bull riding? When you're someone who I mean,
39:33
Speaker 2: you're probably getting on the back of something every day
39:36
Speaker 2: and then you're headed to Nashville, Tennessee. Right, You're headed
39:39
Speaker 2: to a place to serve the Lord do your thing.
39:45
Speaker 2: Were you able to even get on a bull? Were
39:47
Speaker 2: you able to ride a horse? What was that like
39:50
Speaker 2: the two years where you maybe had to take a
39:52
Speaker 2: step away.
39:53
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was very foreign for me because just like
39:55
Speaker 7: you said, like rodeo, riding horses has been like an
39:58
Speaker 7: every day just my entire life, and so I didn't
40:01
Speaker 7: get to ride bulls, ride horses, or do anything that
40:04
Speaker 7: I had done for you know, my entire life up
40:06
Speaker 7: to that point. And so getting out there, like obviously
40:09
Speaker 7: I went to the gym and stuff, but I saw
40:12
Speaker 7: bucking bulls and like horses one time in those two years,
40:15
Speaker 7: which is like that never has never happened in my
40:18
Speaker 7: entire life, and so it was it was an interesting
40:21
Speaker 7: experience that I'm I'm very thankful for because you know,
40:23
Speaker 7: when you're young, you don't really grasp the concept that
40:27
Speaker 7: this is temporary, like this can all be taken away
40:31
Speaker 7: and you know, a split second, and so getting out
40:34
Speaker 7: there and having that opportunity it made me more thankful
40:36
Speaker 7: for the things that I have, the talents that I'm
40:38
Speaker 7: blessed with. And then coming back, you know, I'm two
40:40
Speaker 7: years more mature physically mentally, and so I feel like
40:44
Speaker 7: I just bring a different aspect to bull riding now
40:47
Speaker 7: for my career that you know, I understand that, you know,
40:50
Speaker 7: everything's a blessing, it's all temporary, and so you don't
40:53
Speaker 7: take things for granted as often I feel. So it
40:55
Speaker 7: was definitely an experience that I would do over again
40:57
Speaker 7: in a heartbeat.
40:58
Speaker 2: How is Tennessee Now? I know there's a lot of
41:01
Speaker 2: people out there wearing cowboy hats and boots, but there's
41:03
Speaker 2: not necessarily a whole lot of you know, the actual
41:07
Speaker 2: Western lifestyle going on, is it? What was that like
41:10
Speaker 2: cultural shift?
41:11
Speaker 7: Like, yeah, like agriculture is pretty big, Like in the
41:14
Speaker 7: more rural parts of Tennessee in Kentucky where I was at.
41:17
Speaker 7: But just like you said, like the Western industry, like
41:19
Speaker 7: Rodeo is like non exist right out there. It's it's
41:23
Speaker 7: very few and far between. And so I really enjoyed
41:26
Speaker 7: the people out there. There's you know, people are super
41:28
Speaker 7: nice in the South. The Southern hospitality is definitely real.
41:34
Speaker 7: I would go back and visit, but I would never
41:35
Speaker 7: live there. And there's probably people that you know, think
41:37
Speaker 7: I'm crazy for saying that, but I just love the
41:40
Speaker 7: rocky mountains, like that's my home. I love the snow
41:43
Speaker 7: all that stuff. But it was a it was a
41:44
Speaker 7: good experience. But yeah, Western industry, it's it's not really there.
41:48
Speaker 2: So it's a whole different world. Man, when you when
41:51
Speaker 2: you go out there, now, you know, go do the thing,
41:54
Speaker 2: Go check out the country music museums, go hang out
41:56
Speaker 2: and see Nashville and and the rolling hills of Tennessee.
41:59
Speaker 2: But there's you know, and we talk about being a cowboy,
42:04
Speaker 2: not by choice or by profession, but just by your lifestyle. Right,
42:08
Speaker 2: they don't have out there the open lands we do,
42:11
Speaker 2: the mountains, the places where you you know, guys on
42:14
Speaker 2: grazing permits where you have this literal open range, and
42:18
Speaker 2: it's it's just different.
42:20
Speaker 3: It's just different.
42:20
Speaker 2: And as you mentioned the rodeo circuits, there's there's several
42:24
Speaker 2: of them, right, there's PRCA, there's there's the Wilderness Circuit.
42:28
Speaker 3: But they're all out here now.
42:29
Speaker 2: Maybe a few events in Houston and and veer and
42:32
Speaker 2: over into some of the arenas out there. I think
42:35
Speaker 2: they did an event in New York a few years back, right,
42:39
Speaker 2: And the PBR does events all over the place, even internationally.
42:44
Speaker 3: But it feels like home of rodeo is very much
42:47
Speaker 3: out here.
42:48
Speaker 7: No, yeah, most definitely. The West Coast is not only
42:51
Speaker 7: my home. But yeah, just like you said, like the
42:53
Speaker 7: more west that you go, you see that lifestyle of
42:56
Speaker 7: more and more so it like you said, the country
43:02
Speaker 7: music is awesome out there. It's you know, the capitol
43:05
Speaker 7: for the country music and things like that. But I'll
43:07
Speaker 7: listen to my country music while I'm here in Utah,
43:09
Speaker 7: for sure.
43:10
Speaker 3: That's fair enough.
43:11
Speaker 2: All right, Zero in on on the weekend of course,
43:14
Speaker 2: February sixth and seventh. If you guys haven't got your
43:17
Speaker 2: tickets PBR dot com, you can go there. You can
43:19
Speaker 2: also go to our website to get some more info.
43:22
Speaker 3: On it.
43:23
Speaker 2: But what's the lowdown on the Salt Lake City event?
43:26
Speaker 2: Have you got your draws yet?
43:27
Speaker 3: You know what?
43:27
Speaker 4: What bulls you're gonna be on? You know what the
43:29
Speaker 4: what the weekend's gonna look like.
43:30
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do have my draw super good bowl.
43:33
Speaker 7: We were in Sacramento, California this last weekend and so
43:36
Speaker 7: I got to watch the Bowl that I'm getting on
43:38
Speaker 7: this weekend.
43:38
Speaker 3: A go you're scouting?
43:39
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, and so definitely a big opportunity to win
43:45
Speaker 7: the round the first night. We have a preseason team
43:48
Speaker 7: event this weekend. I think we're playing the Kansas City Outlaws,
43:51
Speaker 7: which you know they're also the other Missouri team and
43:54
Speaker 7: so that's a little bit of a rivalry and so
43:56
Speaker 7: really looking forward to it. I haven't had an opportunity
43:59
Speaker 7: to ride the Delta Center yet because I went on
44:02
Speaker 7: my mission, and so there was a time I missioned
44:06
Speaker 7: a couple months back while I was still out there,
44:08
Speaker 7: that I made it a goal that I wanted to
44:09
Speaker 7: be back to not just ride in Salt Lake City,
44:12
Speaker 7: but to win, especially in front of my home home
44:14
Speaker 7: state crowd.
44:15
Speaker 3: Any other Utah Cowboys this week.
44:17
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's one other one. He's from southern Utah, Kishon Whitehorse.
44:21
Speaker 3: Okay, but it's just us too.
44:23
Speaker 2: All right, Well, Kishan and Kid the hometown kids of course,
44:26
Speaker 2: Cade from Honeyville and Kishan from down in southern Utah
44:32
Speaker 2: competing for PBR in a preseason event here today. If
44:36
Speaker 2: you guys haven't got your tickets, it is PBR dot com,
44:40
Speaker 2: SeatGeek dot com, Delta Center dot com. If you head
44:42
Speaker 2: over to our website as well, we'll get all the links.
44:45
Speaker 2: Seven forty five is when they get going, So get
44:48
Speaker 2: in your seats and get ready. Plenty of time still
44:51
Speaker 2: for you to watch Super Bowl, do your thing, and
44:54
Speaker 2: still get out to the PBR event this weekend.
44:57
Speaker 3: K We please appreciate you coming in.
44:58
Speaker 2: It's been good to get to know you a little
45:00
Speaker 2: bit and get to chatt and we're gonna be we're
45:02
Speaker 2: gonna be tuning in and we're gonna be cheering for you.
45:04
Speaker 3: Thank you.
45:04
Speaker 2: I paying attention as you go. We got We've got
45:07
Speaker 2: plenty of runway in front of you. Twenty years old,
45:10
Speaker 2: still to do this thing. Thanks man, Thank you. We're
45:12
Speaker 2: gonna be back on the other side and Gordy Chiyas
45:15
Speaker 2: is gonna stop by. We're gonna talk some Jazz. We're
45:17
Speaker 2: gonna talk some NBA. The trade deadline less than two
45:20
Speaker 2: hours away, so a bunch of moves in the NBA
45:23
Speaker 2: to recap, and of course, as I mentioned, super Bowl
45:26
Speaker 2: sixty on the horizon this weekend, we're gonna preview that
45:31
Speaker 2: give you all of the low down on the Seahawks
45:33
Speaker 2: the Patriots in a little bit of a rematch for
45:36
Speaker 2: Super Bowl sixty. All of that still to come. Sean
45:38
Speaker 2: Saiet of Sumer Sports will stop by to talk some
45:41
Speaker 2: football and more LITTLEI PGA golf updates as we go
45:46
Speaker 2: along as well, Post Malone and Jelly Roll. They're coming
45:51
Speaker 2: to Rice Cycle Stadium on July twenty eighth. Tune into
45:54
Speaker 2: the Drive with Spence that comes your way two to
45:57
Speaker 2: six today. We'll be giving away some tickets to the event.
46:00
Speaker 3: There.
46:00
Speaker 2: Back on the other side with more of the Sean
46:02
Speaker 2: O'Connell Show, I Amport Larson filling in James Peterson behind
46:05
Speaker 2: the glass on Utah's number one sports talk It's ESPN
46:07
Speaker 2: seven hundred. In ninety two point one FM, you.
46:25
Speaker 1: Were listening to the Sean O'Connell Show from the Murdoc
46:28
Speaker 1: Hyundai Studio of ESPN seven hundred and ninety two to
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Speaker 1: one a f M.
46:39
Speaker 2: Welcome back the Drive coming up after this. This is
46:44
Speaker 2: the Sean O'Connell Show. I almost gave you the.
46:47
Speaker 4: The intro for the drive with Spence Check it's m
46:49
Speaker 4: used to do in the PM show.
46:52
Speaker 3: Appreciate you hopping in.
46:54
Speaker 2: Sean O'Connell wheels up to Dubai for the PFL action
46:59
Speaker 2: and we'll we'll have it covered for him today. Tomorrow
47:03
Speaker 2: Bryce and Jordan will be in the house and we'll
47:07
Speaker 2: go from there and of course hopefully hopefully you tune
47:10
Speaker 2: in to Sean O'Connell and Pro Fighters League Action across
47:15
Speaker 2: the pond there as they go along. It should be
47:18
Speaker 2: a fun event and of course some of the best
47:23
Speaker 2: fighters in the world as always on hand with one OC.
47:27
Speaker 2: We'll have Gordy Chiasa in studio for the noon hour
47:31
Speaker 2: talking a bunch NBA trade deadline, What the Jazz had
47:36
Speaker 2: come down, What the Jazz did. I think they in
47:39
Speaker 2: my opinion, and I think in Gordy's opinion, I think
47:42
Speaker 2: they've done some good things on the jazz front, at
47:45
Speaker 2: least for the future of the club. May not be
47:48
Speaker 2: a immediate impact, just with with where they are and
47:52
Speaker 2: with draft positioning. But we'll get to all of that
47:55
Speaker 2: with Gordy Chias and look at some other NBA trade
47:58
Speaker 2: deadline update. Still rolling along the latest on the NBA
48:05
Speaker 2: trade tracker. Nicks have acquired Jose Alvarado from the Pelicans.
48:10
Speaker 2: The Pelicans get Daylon Terry in two second round picks.
48:14
Speaker 2: The Sons have acquired Cole Anthony and Emir Coffee. They're
48:17
Speaker 2: sending Nick Richards and Nigel Hayes Davis to Milwaukee, and
48:21
Speaker 2: then the latest one for the Utah Jazz Chris Bouchet
48:25
Speaker 2: from Boston and the Jazz will also get the twenty
48:29
Speaker 2: twenty seven second round pick by way of the Denver Nuggets.
48:33
Speaker 2: So a lot to catch up on. We'll get to
48:36
Speaker 2: all of that, but first about a little PGA Tour
48:40
Speaker 2: leader board update. The Waste Management Phoenix Open maybe my
48:49
Speaker 2: favorite event in golf, just because I'm a degenerate and
48:52
Speaker 2: it's like the opposite. It's the antithesis of what is
48:58
Speaker 2: I guess traditional golf.
49:00
Speaker 3: Now.
49:00
Speaker 2: I grew up working on what you'll call like kind
49:03
Speaker 2: of stuffy country clubs, right, and I just love that
49:08
Speaker 2: The Waste Management Open is number one, named after a
49:12
Speaker 2: waste management company, and they throw trash everywhere. They're having
49:16
Speaker 2: a good time there, they get trashed. They do, they
49:20
Speaker 2: absolutely do. There's there's always videos of guys who should
49:24
Speaker 2: have been cut off several hours ago when it comes
49:28
Speaker 2: to when it comes to their their consumption of alcoholic beverages.
49:34
Speaker 2: But at the waste management open, I guess they just
49:36
Speaker 2: let you go. It's it's fun.
49:39
Speaker 8: Now.
49:39
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that all golf should be like that.
49:41
Speaker 2: I think there's a limit to it. But the fact
49:43
Speaker 2: that they one weekend a year just let everyone go
49:46
Speaker 2: out and have a blast, I think is is really cool.
49:49
Speaker 4: Matt Fitzpatrick, I think it's perfect super Bowl weekend two.
49:52
Speaker 4: When they know they're not going to get attention, this
49:54
Speaker 4: is a way for them to get attention and not
49:57
Speaker 4: like not try to compete, not try to like have
49:59
Speaker 4: the Masters compete with the super Bowl exactly, Matt Fitzpatrick.
50:03
Speaker 4: Your leader at eight under through fourteen holes. On hole one,
50:07
Speaker 4: Chris got her up at seven under. Those two guys
50:10
Speaker 4: are are kind of getting some distance between them and
50:13
Speaker 4: the rest of the field. Nikolai Hoguard is it five under,
50:17
Speaker 4: as is Pearson Coody, Michael Thorbrinson and Jake Knappall at
50:23
Speaker 4: five under, and you got a whole bunch of Americans
50:26
Speaker 4: up towards the top of the leader board. Tony Fee, Now,
50:30
Speaker 4: let's see where's our guy, Tony fore Now he is
50:34
Speaker 4: at one over. So Tony through thirteen holes above par.
50:39
Speaker 4: Not exactly the start you want for one Tony Fee now,
50:42
Speaker 4: but he's right there with Scotty Scheffler as well. I
50:44
Speaker 4: think they're playing in the same group. So maybe on
50:49
Speaker 4: the back nine they can make some ground on the
50:51
Speaker 4: leader who is eight under through fourteen holes, Matt Fitzpatrick
50:56
Speaker 4: getting a birdie on every other hole and then so
51:01
Speaker 4: a really really good start for Fitzpatrick. He is your
51:04
Speaker 4: early leader at the Waste Management Open PGA Tour leader
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51:34
Speaker 2: Stop in, get your gloves, get your clubs, get your
51:37
Speaker 2: balls at you went to golf. You went to golf
51:40
Speaker 2: dot com. I teased it earlier. It's gordichias joining the
51:45
Speaker 2: program on the other side. Not a better guest to
51:48
Speaker 2: have in studio on the day of the NBA trade deadline.
51:52
Speaker 3: He joins us.
51:53
Speaker 2: Next to recap the Jazz so far in the NBA
51:57
Speaker 2: trade deadline and look ahead to what might happen over
52:01
Speaker 2: the final hour of the trade window. Gordy joins us
52:05
Speaker 2: on the other side. Next, it is the Sean O'Connell Show.
52:07
Speaker 2: I am Porter Larson and this is ESPN seven hundred
52:11
Speaker 2: and ninety two point one FM.
52:18
Speaker 5: Peace Out.
52:18
Speaker 1: Let's get the latest on the Utah Jazz with former
52:21
Speaker 1: Jazz assistant coach Gordy Chiasa. He's forgotten more about the
52:25
Speaker 1: NBA than any of us will ever know.
52:27
Speaker 5: Let's not get crazy.
52:28
Speaker 1: Come for the hoops talk, stay for his list of
52:30
Speaker 1: the day. My list today, here's oc with basketball Saban
52:35
Speaker 1: Gordy Chiasa on the Sean O'Connell Show.
52:39
Speaker 2: My Dog, Gordy Chiasa back in the house, no one
52:45
Speaker 2: better on a day to talk NBA and Utah Jazz.
52:50
Speaker 2: The trade deadline of course coming our way about an
52:54
Speaker 2: hour from right now, Gordy, how are you what?
52:57
Speaker 5: I am doing? Well?
52:58
Speaker 6: Thanks for the invited always, And this is one of
53:02
Speaker 6: my most favorite days of the year, besides James's favorite day,
53:05
Speaker 6: which I know is Valentine's today, So this is my
53:08
Speaker 6: favorite day of the year. The trading deadline, it's rather
53:10
Speaker 6: intense and I've been a lot of conversations over the
53:14
Speaker 6: last thirty the NBA now for thirty six years, is
53:18
Speaker 6: that there's nothing like the trading deadline where it's absolutely
53:21
Speaker 6: intense in the war rooms.
53:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, fifty six minutes away from the NBA trade deadline,
53:27
Speaker 2: deals still coming through, James. Let us know, the seventy
53:30
Speaker 2: six ers just traded Eric Gordon to the Grizzlies for
53:33
Speaker 2: a twenty thirty two second or with a tw twenty
53:36
Speaker 2: thirty two second round pick. That as we just mentioned, Gordy,
53:39
Speaker 2: that's a that's a money deal. That's that's moving contracts,
53:42
Speaker 2: that's moving salaries, and then trading a twenty thirty two pick,
53:46
Speaker 2: which let's see, that's probably someone who's maybe a freshman
53:51
Speaker 2: in high school. Maybe eighth grader, yeah, very much, eighth
53:55
Speaker 2: greater exactly right, eighth grades.
53:57
Speaker 6: And what the rules are You can trade out after
53:59
Speaker 6: outer seventy for a draft pick, so a lot of
54:01
Speaker 6: times you see now so this is twenty twenty six, yeah,
54:04
Speaker 6: seven equals see the thirty twenty thirty two or thirty three.
54:08
Speaker 6: Those are rules seventy years out you can legally trade
54:11
Speaker 6: a draft pick. So much is also porter That is
54:15
Speaker 6: not a question. You like the guy, you like the
54:17
Speaker 6: guy's money for July first, right, that's a huge factor.
54:21
Speaker 2: As much as the player movement during the trade deadline.
54:25
Speaker 2: Moving salaries so that you can do something during free
54:28
Speaker 2: agency is just as big a part of this week
54:33
Speaker 2: as anything.
54:34
Speaker 1: Now.
54:34
Speaker 2: The Jazz a team that I kind of thought would
54:38
Speaker 2: be doing that. I thought that they'd move, maybe moving
54:40
Speaker 2: some ancillary pieces and opening up to have free agency flexibility. Instead,
54:46
Speaker 2: they kind of cashed in on what would have been
54:48
Speaker 2: one of their targets in free agency in Jaron Jackson Junior.
54:53
Speaker 2: And you know, I like that because the Jazz we've
54:56
Speaker 2: seen time and time again open up a bunch of
54:59
Speaker 2: room for free agency and then not be able to
55:01
Speaker 2: get like that top flight guy that they wanted right
55:04
Speaker 2: whether it's talking him into living in Utah or coming
55:07
Speaker 2: and been playing here or or whatever it is. Going
55:11
Speaker 2: the free agency route sometimes is a little tougher for
55:14
Speaker 2: the Utah Jazz. A lot of times they've ended up
55:16
Speaker 2: on the side where they're losing their free agents rather
55:19
Speaker 2: than bringing guys in.
55:20
Speaker 3: So they say, hey, let's not deal with that.
55:22
Speaker 2: Let's go and get Jaron Jackson Junior, a guy that's
55:24
Speaker 2: under contract for a little while, and you know, well,
55:28
Speaker 2: we'll use that flexibility to get a piece that we
55:31
Speaker 2: think can be part of our future. They send Walter
55:35
Speaker 2: Clayton Junior, Kyle Anderson, Taylor Hendrix, George Niang to Memphis
55:40
Speaker 2: and they get in return, as I mentioned, Jaron Jackson Junior,
55:43
Speaker 2: John conchar and Vince Williams Junior. Now, you know Concharts
55:48
Speaker 2: I think more of a filler as far as the
55:52
Speaker 2: rosters go and making the salaries work. But I think
55:55
Speaker 2: that Jaron Jackson Junior and Vince Williams Gordie, which has
55:58
Speaker 2: been under talked about a little bit, I think these
56:00
Speaker 2: are two guys that could be seen as as legitimate
56:04
Speaker 2: pieces for the jazz future, and I think they fit
56:08
Speaker 2: maybe what the Jazz are trying to do. A lot
56:10
Speaker 2: of length, a lot of defense. That's what we're seeing
56:13
Speaker 2: with Jazz right now, and Gordy we talked about it
56:16
Speaker 2: at the break. The Jazz defense is in a need
56:20
Speaker 2: for those types of players.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, very much.
56:22
Speaker 6: So let's give a quick time report about Jaron Jackson,
56:25
Speaker 6: a twenty seven two time All Star. He's a stretch big,
56:29
Speaker 6: he's a finesse range score, he's he's shorthanded in the lane.
56:33
Speaker 6: His biggest threat is picking pop. So in a high
56:36
Speaker 6: pick and roll is visualize right now on a dance
56:39
Speaker 6: dribble with Isaiah Kalia. He sets the screen, he pops
56:42
Speaker 6: back for that quick jump shot and that quick three
56:45
Speaker 6: point range. Now it's interesting reporter his shot delivery, we
56:49
Speaker 6: call it a set shot, low trajectory. So think of
56:52
Speaker 6: Tarise Halliburton of the Paces with that look that that
56:56
Speaker 6: low trajectory shot. That's Jaron Jackson as far as they
57:00
Speaker 6: least point about it. Defensively, he has range, so he's
57:03
Speaker 6: in the lane, he can block shots, and he's a
57:06
Speaker 6: he's a guy that's got good length. Now what he
57:08
Speaker 6: needs to do is be a better rebounder. So his
57:11
Speaker 6: career only he's averaging five point six rebounds, so he's
57:14
Speaker 6: got to compete harder on the boards. And also he's
57:18
Speaker 6: foul prone, so he's got to get better technique and
57:22
Speaker 6: he's got to do less body fouling. That's the that's
57:25
Speaker 6: the things he has to improve on. But what he
57:27
Speaker 6: gives the Jazz is absolutely a tremendous scoring threat. He's
57:31
Speaker 6: a thirty five three point shooter. He leads his career
57:35
Speaker 6: wise is is almost two blocks per game. And he
57:38
Speaker 6: can score the ball, and he can run the ball.
57:41
Speaker 6: He's really has ball skills. So it's an absolutely home run. Contractually,
57:45
Speaker 6: his his numbers right now, I know you're driving right
57:47
Speaker 6: now in fifteen. This is this is an NBA lexicon.
57:52
Speaker 6: As far as money, it's not the real world, all right.
57:54
Speaker 6: So this year he makes This year makes thirty five
57:57
Speaker 6: million dollars, Next year makes forty nine million dollars, twenty seven,
58:01
Speaker 6: twenty eight fifty point five million, twenty eight, twenty nine
58:05
Speaker 6: fifty two million, and twenty nine point thirty he makes
58:08
Speaker 6: fifty three point five million, which is the player option,
58:11
Speaker 6: and that same year matches up with Larry market In,
58:14
Speaker 6: so marketing on him will have the same time. Next
58:17
Speaker 6: guy A little quick Sky report synopsis Vince Williams Junior.
58:22
Speaker 6: First thing is vastly underrated his age twenty five. He's
58:27
Speaker 6: a recipient scorer, which means an NBA jogging that he
58:30
Speaker 6: scores off movement via what via dribble, handoffs, a fast break,
58:35
Speaker 6: in transition, broken play scoring. He's he's really a smart cutter,
58:39
Speaker 6: and a smart cutter for him would be is that
58:42
Speaker 6: we call U turn cutting. Where the guy's overplaying, you
58:44
Speaker 6: make a U turn cut. He can score the ball
58:47
Speaker 6: as far as that well, he doesn't do right now.
58:49
Speaker 6: He's a he's really a blow of its three point shooter,
58:52
Speaker 6: only thirty two point three percent from threes. Here's the
58:55
Speaker 6: great part about him, absolutely defensive playmaker. So this is
59:00
Speaker 6: what the Jazz need, Jaron Jackson the block shots and
59:03
Speaker 6: to really alter shots. And this guy what he does.
59:06
Speaker 6: He's disrupted around the ball. He for yester year. If
59:10
Speaker 6: you're you don't understand how he plays like you just forgot.
59:13
Speaker 6: If forgetful, visualize Stacey Augment when Stacey Augment.
59:18
Speaker 5: Played in the NBA via.
59:21
Speaker 6: UNLV rebels in this heyday. He has his long, gangly arms.
59:24
Speaker 6: We call him alligator arms. And that he can play
59:27
Speaker 6: in the passing lane. He's a mindful technique. He's really
59:30
Speaker 6: good defending the ball, and he's really tremendous as far
59:33
Speaker 6: as good screen action. He gives the Jazz with the
59:36
Speaker 6: Jazz need. Is a wing defender that's pride about his defense.
59:40
Speaker 6: Next guy, quickly, John a Contract is a shooting specialist
59:45
Speaker 6: off the roll. He's a picking a floor spacer. He's
59:50
Speaker 6: a range marksman and he can make three point shots.
59:53
Speaker 6: And the last guy is Chris Bouchet, who the Jazz
59:55
Speaker 6: traded for today from the Boston Celtics. He's a pick
1:00:00
Speaker 6: and pop, big guy with I'll call him a stretch
1:00:03
Speaker 6: for So the Jazz added two shooters in contact and
1:00:07
Speaker 6: Chris Bousche, and he added a range shooter also and
1:00:11
Speaker 6: Jeron Jackson defensive player, and got an absolutely superior defensive
1:00:15
Speaker 6: player in Vince Williams. So in the big picture, with
1:00:21
Speaker 6: Austin Ainge, it was a an a plus right now.
1:00:26
Speaker 2: And obviously Gordy likes what the Jazz have done.
1:00:29
Speaker 3: I like what the Jazz have done.
1:00:31
Speaker 2: Now you're you're building towards something probably twenty twenty seven,
1:00:35
Speaker 2: twenty eight rather than this year, as you continue to
1:00:38
Speaker 2: angle for the draft. But something else that they've done,
1:00:41
Speaker 2: Gordy is every player that the Jazz have picked up
1:00:45
Speaker 2: can play multiple positions. They can all defend, and they
1:00:50
Speaker 2: can switch on the defensive end. As a guy who
1:00:54
Speaker 2: again you coached and kind of saw a transition from
1:00:59
Speaker 2: a very traditional point guard shooting guard four and five guy,
1:01:03
Speaker 2: you're now seeing rosters being built upon players who are
1:01:08
Speaker 2: all just long rangey defenders and can play multiple positions.
1:01:12
Speaker 2: How do you see the identity of the Jazz kind
1:01:14
Speaker 2: of shifting and evolving as they pick up these types
1:01:17
Speaker 2: of players.
1:01:18
Speaker 6: Well, the defense will get better, that's the first thing,
1:01:21
Speaker 6: because it has to the Jazz.
1:01:22
Speaker 3: His hit the math.
1:01:23
Speaker 6: Right now, the Jazz are less than the m needs two,
1:01:26
Speaker 6: is less than the NBA for the back to back
1:01:28
Speaker 6: years and now of the most points are allowed per game,
1:01:32
Speaker 6: and also this year they allowed the most three point
1:01:34
Speaker 6: shots per game in the NBA at fifteen point nine.
1:01:38
Speaker 6: And the reason why that happens, just generally speaking conjectually,
1:01:42
Speaker 6: is that you don't defend the ball and that one
1:01:45
Speaker 6: of your bigs has very slow getting out to the
1:01:48
Speaker 6: corner to challenge the three point shot. But it all
1:01:51
Speaker 6: starts like any defense on ball, and that's what the
1:01:54
Speaker 6: Jazz got improved a lot of its technique. Most of
1:01:57
Speaker 6: it's what effort, and that's what the Jazz can approve.
1:02:00
Speaker 5: Move on.
1:02:00
Speaker 6: All right, here's the starting lineup that could be could
1:02:04
Speaker 6: be Let's forecast out next year. At point guard Keante George,
1:02:09
Speaker 6: at two guard Ace Bailly as a big two right now,
1:02:14
Speaker 6: at small forward slash hybrid Larry Marketing at power forward
1:02:21
Speaker 6: slash stretch Jaron Jackson, and at center should be Walker Kessler.
1:02:31
Speaker 6: So that could be. Now, what about Walker Custer as
1:02:35
Speaker 6: far as you're Jazz fan, all right, he's hurt and
1:02:38
Speaker 6: he's good, and he's homegrown, and that this year only
1:02:41
Speaker 6: played five games this year before we before the surgeons
1:02:45
Speaker 6: left shoulder surgery with a torn laborer with Thank god,
1:02:47
Speaker 6: it wasn't a shooting hand. It's on his it's on
1:02:49
Speaker 6: his left shoulder, all right. So he's a restricted free
1:02:52
Speaker 6: agent supporter. What did they do? Hey, we love your
1:02:55
Speaker 6: dog because he's homegrown. We drafted you. But the day
1:02:58
Speaker 6: to draft via Man Soda Timberwolves, and so again, what's
1:03:04
Speaker 6: he worth to the Jazz? And in the range we
1:03:07
Speaker 6: always talk about this porter you and I about the
1:03:10
Speaker 6: contract of ironically of Utah former utes Yaka Partle, who
1:03:15
Speaker 6: plays with the Toronto Raptors. His contract will just make
1:03:18
Speaker 6: it simple. He averages twenty eight million dollars for the
1:03:20
Speaker 6: next four years. And so the question is always in
1:03:24
Speaker 6: the internally, is Walker Kessler better for the Jazz than
1:03:29
Speaker 6: Yaka Pertle for the Raptors. And the answer is unequivocally yes.
1:03:33
Speaker 6: So now it's my time to get a tremendous payday.
1:03:38
Speaker 6: And so now it gets interesting. And so Porter, it's
1:03:41
Speaker 6: beautiful right now outside here in beautiful February Salt Lake City,
1:03:45
Speaker 6: which is unquestionably should be cold right now, but it's warm.
1:03:49
Speaker 6: But July one Porter in the war room is going
1:03:52
Speaker 6: to be hot in there. You have to decide what
1:03:55
Speaker 6: they do with Walker Kestler as far as being a
1:03:57
Speaker 6: restricted free agent.
1:03:58
Speaker 2: A restricted free agent, and we've talked about this, you
1:04:02
Speaker 2: mentioned Yaka Pearl. The thing with the Jazz is you've
1:04:06
Speaker 2: now brought in a Jaron Jackson junior who can play
1:04:08
Speaker 2: the five. You have a use of Nrkic, who I
1:04:11
Speaker 2: think is a very good candidate for the mid level
1:04:14
Speaker 2: exception the benchmark, as you mentioned, at twenty eight million,
1:04:22
Speaker 2: dollars a year. To me, I like Yaka Pearl and
1:04:28
Speaker 2: I like Walker Kessler. But I think, and we talked
1:04:31
Speaker 2: about this a little of the break, I think the
1:04:33
Speaker 2: Raptors set that benchmark a little high. Now I know
1:04:37
Speaker 2: the salary cap is going to continue to go up.
1:04:39
Speaker 2: These numbers to me are I don't live in that space.
1:04:43
Speaker 2: So twenty eight million is always going to seem high
1:04:45
Speaker 2: to me, but just based on the amount that it
1:04:48
Speaker 2: takes up against the cap that's going to be, you know,
1:04:52
Speaker 2: nineteen or twenty million dollars hard cap for the you know,
1:04:56
Speaker 2: towards the hard cap for the Jazz. And I think
1:04:59
Speaker 2: that that is is a tough ask. I think if
1:05:01
Speaker 2: Walker Kessler and his camp want to stay, there may
1:05:05
Speaker 2: be a desire from the Jazz to come down from
1:05:08
Speaker 2: that number a little bit. And that's seemingly where there's
1:05:13
Speaker 2: some tension brewing.
1:05:14
Speaker 6: Blasphemy, My good man, I can't believe you're saying that blasphemy.
1:05:19
Speaker 5: I'm many kidding it.
1:05:19
Speaker 6: And the reason why is that you forgetful how players
1:05:23
Speaker 6: think in their agents. That Walker Kessler does have somewhat
1:05:29
Speaker 6: leverage yep, somewhat, not total. Because now Jared Jackson here
1:05:33
Speaker 6: it changes part of the equation You've mentioned also about
1:05:36
Speaker 6: Yusuf Nurkert, who's played very well for the Jazz mid
1:05:38
Speaker 6: level exception next season should be roughly fifty million dollars.
1:05:42
Speaker 6: He's making nineteen point one right now, so he's going
1:05:46
Speaker 6: to get a pay cut if the Jazz do we
1:05:48
Speaker 6: sign him, but it might he might add some more
1:05:51
Speaker 6: years to his career at thirty one. When's the last
1:05:54
Speaker 6: time you heard really an NBA player take a pay
1:05:56
Speaker 6: cut dramatically? It doesn't happen. It's happened, is very very
1:06:01
Speaker 6: unusually at a low ratio.
1:06:03
Speaker 5: It usually is.
1:06:05
Speaker 2: You know, the most common time I hear about a
1:06:08
Speaker 2: player taking a pay cut is when they have already
1:06:12
Speaker 2: kind of played out their career. They're a star who
1:06:14
Speaker 2: has a bazillion dollars in the bank and they want
1:06:16
Speaker 2: to go play with a friend or something right, or
1:06:18
Speaker 2: they want to go play with a specific team outside
1:06:21
Speaker 2: of that. Agents are really good at getting market value
1:06:24
Speaker 2: for their players.
1:06:25
Speaker 6: That's their job. So the last time I've heard of
1:06:28
Speaker 6: a really a great player taking a pay cut with
1:06:32
Speaker 6: Dirk Newitzki with the he didn't want to be traded
1:06:35
Speaker 6: from the Dallas Mavericks, and so he took a pay
1:06:37
Speaker 6: cut to make five million dollars a year from making
1:06:40
Speaker 6: definitely like a thirty five million. And he did that
1:06:43
Speaker 6: because he didn't want to move. And at that time,
1:06:46
Speaker 6: Mark Cuban was the sole owner of the of the
1:06:48
Speaker 6: Dallas Mavericks. And it worked out for both parties. And
1:06:51
Speaker 6: it's very rare. So I mentioned about Dirk Nowitzki, most
1:06:55
Speaker 6: players get traded. It's the most amazing phenomenon, and it's
1:07:01
Speaker 6: here's what happens. I'll use his illustration because it involves
1:07:05
Speaker 6: Jaron Jackson. I thought about this the other day. All Right,
1:07:10
Speaker 6: the only player in the twenty eighteen draft, so these
1:07:15
Speaker 6: players are in their prime right now. Roughly they're twenty
1:07:17
Speaker 6: seven to twenty eight. The only player in the twenty
1:07:21
Speaker 6: twenty eight draft to remain on their own original drafted
1:07:25
Speaker 6: team is only one guy. So fifty nine players in
1:07:30
Speaker 6: the two thy and eighteen draft of the original team
1:07:34
Speaker 6: is now on different teams. So do you know the
1:07:39
Speaker 6: expression that is always moving parts? Every day something's moving
1:07:44
Speaker 6: along the way, whether it's your own personal life or
1:07:46
Speaker 6: professional life, it's always moving. This is the ultimate. So
1:07:50
Speaker 6: sixty guys drafted in twenty eighteen. Only one guy is left,
1:07:55
Speaker 6: and he has the only one guy left. He was
1:07:58
Speaker 6: the thirty sixth picket the draft by the Knickerbockers Mitchell Robinson.
1:08:03
Speaker 5: So here's the guys. I just give it.
1:08:05
Speaker 6: Not all six, no way, I'll just give it the
1:08:07
Speaker 6: top eleven in the draft number one, DeAndre Ayton, number two,
1:08:13
Speaker 6: Marvin Bagley, number three, Luca Dantage number four. Now see
1:08:18
Speaker 6: Jaron Jackson was the second least guy to remain on
1:08:22
Speaker 6: the team. That was the Jazz number five, Trey Young
1:08:25
Speaker 6: number six, Mobamba number seven, Wendell Carter Junior, number eight,
1:08:30
Speaker 6: former Jazz man Colin Secon number nine, Kevin Knox number ten,
1:08:35
Speaker 6: the kel Bridges and number eleven. This guy's the MVP
1:08:39
Speaker 6: of the NBA last season. He might be this year.
1:08:43
Speaker 6: Him and Nikola Jokics. J Jos Alexander was drafted, was
1:08:48
Speaker 6: drafted and by the LA Clippers, and was traded, thank
1:08:51
Speaker 6: God and the underworld, to the Thunder. So being traded
1:08:56
Speaker 6: is perfectly normal in the NBA. There two star words
1:09:01
Speaker 6: that might never be traded, possibly would be Steph Curry
1:09:05
Speaker 6: and Nikolai Jokic. Probably probably see that I'm hesitating, so fast, Yeah,
1:09:13
Speaker 6: not so fast. Port one time, Larry Miller said to
1:09:16
Speaker 6: Lake Great Larry Miller said to the Jazz around a
1:09:18
Speaker 6: long time ago, he said to these magical words, hey guys,
1:09:23
Speaker 6: meaning myself, Jerry Stones, Phil Johnson, and Kevin O'Connor, I
1:09:26
Speaker 6: will never trade John Stockton or call him alone. So
1:09:31
Speaker 6: we're gonna ride their career out and then we're gonna rebuild.
1:09:35
Speaker 6: I will never trade these guys. So once he said
1:09:37
Speaker 6: to do it at that meeting, then it was never
1:09:39
Speaker 6: ever discussed ever. John played the age forty one, call
1:09:43
Speaker 6: played till age thirty nine, went for the Lakers for
1:09:46
Speaker 6: one season, then he retired. The Jazz regrouped three years later,
1:09:49
Speaker 6: and by two thousand and seven, with Darren Williams, Boozer
1:09:52
Speaker 6: and o'caurgh got back to the Conference finals.
1:09:55
Speaker 2: You mentioned that twenty eighteen draft and how trades are
1:09:59
Speaker 2: move moved. It's always happening, right. Just think about this
1:10:03
Speaker 2: for a moment. You remember all the noise about the
1:10:07
Speaker 2: Mavericks and the in trading up for Luca.
1:10:10
Speaker 3: Young and all that.
1:10:12
Speaker 2: Well, just a little revisit of that situation. The but
1:10:17
Speaker 2: Dallas Mavericks traded essentially trade Young for Luca in that
1:10:20
Speaker 2: trade the third pick for the fifth pick, and then
1:10:24
Speaker 2: they traded and then they traded Luca to the Lakers
1:10:30
Speaker 2: for Anthony Davis. And then they just traded Anthony Davis
1:10:34
Speaker 2: to Washington for Marvin Bagley, who was the second pick
1:10:40
Speaker 2: in that draft. They essentially it took them six years,
1:10:43
Speaker 2: but they essentially traded the third pick for the second
1:10:46
Speaker 2: pick in the NBA draft.
1:10:48
Speaker 3: Just a very full circle moment there.
1:10:51
Speaker 6: Absolutely, that's an understatement, the full circle of NBA life.
1:10:55
Speaker 6: That's exactly right. That's why it's so important to get
1:10:58
Speaker 6: the majority of your draft picks correct and then develop
1:11:03
Speaker 6: them and now they play for your franchise and your
1:11:06
Speaker 6: team is successful, then you have to give them fair compensation.
1:11:10
Speaker 6: And then later on into their career they're all trying
1:11:14
Speaker 6: to chase a championship title, and then you have to reassess,
1:11:18
Speaker 6: then what do you need to try to get that
1:11:21
Speaker 6: exclusive title, which we know is very very hard to do.
1:11:27
Speaker 6: Full circle and that's the beauty of the NBA. And
1:11:30
Speaker 6: you think you know something, you know nothing because it's
1:11:33
Speaker 6: called you and behavior and that so much is the
1:11:37
Speaker 6: fit porter. So a lot of times players you love
1:11:40
Speaker 6: their talent but it's not the right fit for them.
1:11:44
Speaker 6: So you take the guy for all the wrong reasons
1:11:46
Speaker 6: based on only talent, and it doesn't fit in and
1:11:49
Speaker 6: then you try to move that guy, often out of
1:11:52
Speaker 6: non strength versus out of what strength.
1:11:55
Speaker 2: I want to go back to you mentioned what could
1:11:58
Speaker 2: be the starting lineup for the Utah Jazz as Walker Kessler,
1:12:02
Speaker 2: Lowry Markinen. Those guys are both over seven feet tall.
1:12:05
Speaker 2: Jaron Jackson Junior is six', Eleven Ace bailey six eight
1:12:09
Speaker 2: six y, nine and then you think Probably Keyante George.
1:12:13
Speaker 8: Oh.
1:12:13
Speaker 2: Absolutely you also may have a lottery pick in the
1:12:16
Speaker 2: next year's, draft so you could add something in. There
1:12:19
Speaker 2: but the front court and the very Tall Ace bailey
1:12:24
Speaker 2: at the. Two that would be the tallest starting lineup
1:12:28
Speaker 2: in league. History and it's all a bunch of guys
1:12:31
Speaker 2: that are kind of. INTERCHANGEABLE i don't want to say
1:12:34
Speaker 2: positionless basketball because that's it's a kind of a vague,
1:12:37
Speaker 2: Term but to, Me i'm all in on that type
1:12:41
Speaker 2: of roster where you can build out a bunch of,
1:12:44
Speaker 2: length which on the defensive side of the, Ball gordy
1:12:48
Speaker 2: cuts everything. Down it makes the court smaller for the other,
1:12:52
Speaker 2: team and on the offensive. Side if they can all,
1:12:55
Speaker 2: shoot it spaces the floor for your. Team that's a
1:12:59
Speaker 2: that's just on it, face a roster THAT i can
1:13:01
Speaker 2: get on board. With the one, question, however is with
1:13:06
Speaker 2: with A Walker Kessler, now interestingly, enough for The, JAZZ
1:13:10
Speaker 2: i think that some of the leverage that we talked
1:13:12
Speaker 2: About gordi was that The jazz have a historically bad
1:13:16
Speaker 2: defense right, Now, well they just brought in a former
1:13:21
Speaker 2: Defensive player of The year who can play the. Five
1:13:25
Speaker 2: does that add any, pressure any leverage taken away maybe
1:13:29
Speaker 2: From Walker kessler's camp in that, Regard, yes bringing in
1:13:32
Speaker 2: A Jaron.
1:13:33
Speaker 6: Jackson junior very. Much, Absolutely, hey we love. You we
1:13:37
Speaker 6: love you at a certain. Number and now the discussion
1:13:40
Speaker 6: is not at the discussion now between The jazz and
1:13:43
Speaker 6: A walker's. Representation it's it's you wanted to work. Out
1:13:49
Speaker 6: but now there's an element of, leverage whether it's talked
1:13:52
Speaker 6: out loud or whether it's perceived. Leverage by having A
1:13:55
Speaker 6: Jaron jackson junior, here it helps The jazz as far
1:13:58
Speaker 6: as trying to get a reasonable. Number as, always once
1:14:03
Speaker 6: you understand the economics of, it you don't want to overpay.
1:14:06
Speaker 6: Dramatically that's a catchword now dramatically on a. Player unless
1:14:12
Speaker 6: you're really close to being a, champion then everything changes.
1:14:15
Speaker 6: Then but the jet still in that they're heading votes
1:14:18
Speaker 6: certainly by making these, traits but they're not really in
1:14:21
Speaker 6: a championship level. Yet hopefully in the next few years
1:14:24
Speaker 6: they will. Be but let's first make the. Playoffs if
1:14:27
Speaker 6: you're A jazz point of. View next part of that
1:14:30
Speaker 6: is That Isaiah kalia is a big part of this
1:14:33
Speaker 6: group right. Now the way he, plays so a lot
1:14:36
Speaker 6: of times you can slide Over count De george at two,
1:14:39
Speaker 6: guard which is really effective at So i'll Call count.
1:14:41
Speaker 6: A he's really a guard and he's good at. It
1:14:44
Speaker 6: he does pass the. Ball he average like six point
1:14:46
Speaker 6: eight six per game this. Season but he's really really
1:14:49
Speaker 6: a good Score that's what he does best is score the.
1:14:51
Speaker 6: Ball And, kalia that guy's past happy and he's really
1:14:55
Speaker 6: he's also. Underrated and so Now Ace billy is a
1:14:59
Speaker 6: major young. Talent that guy is. Good AND i love
1:15:02
Speaker 6: About Ace bailly is that he's really an efficient shooter
1:15:05
Speaker 6: like you if you, remember he's only twenty years, old
1:15:09
Speaker 6: so he's shooting the ball really relatively, efficiently like forty
1:15:13
Speaker 6: six point five percent from the, field which is really.
1:15:16
Speaker 6: Good now he's got to get better, defensively and that's what.
1:15:19
Speaker 6: Technique that's understanding your, body moving your feet plenty, angles
1:15:23
Speaker 6: use your hands see so much in any. Sport you
1:15:27
Speaker 6: have to be able to coordinate your feet with your
1:15:29
Speaker 6: hands to become a defensive. Player and that's all The
1:15:32
Speaker 6: jazz across by right. Now BUT i do think The
1:15:35
Speaker 6: jazz are pointing in the right.
1:15:37
Speaker 2: Direction, yeah as you, Mentioned Ace, bailey pretty efficient. Shooter
1:15:44
Speaker 2: forty five percent from the, field thirty five percent from,
1:15:47
Speaker 2: downtown seventy one percent from the free throw. Line he's
1:15:50
Speaker 2: gonna up those numbers a little, bit as you'd. Expect
1:15:53
Speaker 2: it's the defensive side of the ball with. Him if
1:15:55
Speaker 2: he can join the cohorts on The Utah jazz And
1:15:59
Speaker 2: Jaron jackson And junior and others in, PLAYING i think
1:16:03
Speaker 2: a little more intensity on the defensive end would help
1:16:06
Speaker 2: ONE A. Bailey, now one more breaking news update for
1:16:11
Speaker 2: The Los Angeles clippers trading of EACH A zubas to The.
1:16:14
Speaker 2: Pacers they're Sending benedict Mathern Isaiah, jackson and two first,
1:16:19
Speaker 2: round second or first round picks one second round pick
1:16:23
Speaker 2: to the clipper clippers For zubach And Kobe brown as.
1:16:27
Speaker 2: Well that's a kind of a salary. Filler that's a
1:16:30
Speaker 2: that's a pretty big haul for one of the only
1:16:34
Speaker 2: traditional centers right now in THE. Nba what do you
1:16:37
Speaker 2: what do you feel About indiana sending that type of
1:16:41
Speaker 2: haul For?
1:16:42
Speaker 6: Zubac, okay it surprised Because zubats, first he's got really
1:16:46
Speaker 6: a great friendly. Contract so it's the most amazing. Thing
1:16:50
Speaker 6: so we talked About, Walker kester And Jaku perlal making
1:16:54
Speaker 6: twenty eight million dollars is zubats contract this? Year eighteen
1:16:57
Speaker 6: point one, million next year nineteen point, Five porter twenty,
1:17:01
Speaker 6: seven twenty.
1:17:02
Speaker 5: Eight twenty point.
1:17:03
Speaker 6: Nine so the contract is absolutely in THE nba as
1:17:07
Speaker 6: far as, arithmetic.
1:17:10
Speaker 5: It's a.
1:17:11
Speaker 6: Team now The, pacers those, guys let's not forget see
1:17:15
Speaker 6: The pacers. There this is a class example where none
1:17:18
Speaker 6: of it talks about. Them, oh by the, way last
1:17:21
Speaker 6: year there were one half away BEING nba champions Without
1:17:25
Speaker 6: halliburton going, down and they moved on From Myles turner
1:17:29
Speaker 6: because they knew something that we didn't Know.
1:17:30
Speaker 5: Porter guess what is?
1:17:32
Speaker 6: That He they like his, talent but they saw the
1:17:36
Speaker 6: things that he couldn't do right in front of sidden of. Them,
1:17:39
Speaker 6: also a lot of times you see players at the
1:17:41
Speaker 6: worst porter at three o'clock in the morning on a
1:17:44
Speaker 6: five game loosen. Streak you see a guy on the
1:17:46
Speaker 6: airplane above sea level thirty five thousand feet and guess,
1:17:49
Speaker 6: what doesn't really care about, winning all, Right so they
1:17:52
Speaker 6: moved them. On and so now they Get zobots as
1:17:55
Speaker 6: a big guy to play With halliburton next. Season and
1:17:58
Speaker 6: they moved on to the to The. Clippers, now The
1:18:01
Speaker 6: clippers point of, View i'm surprised they would do. That
1:18:04
Speaker 6: so they have a leap of faith right now The
1:18:06
Speaker 6: clippers that they think The clippers, now they think that
1:18:12
Speaker 6: they can get away With Brook lopez this. Year there's
1:18:15
Speaker 6: a backup center, now start Play quase former jazz Man
1:18:19
Speaker 6: John collins at, center somewhat at. Center and then the
1:18:24
Speaker 6: biggest thing right now is the rookie guy From Penn, State,
1:18:27
Speaker 6: needenhauser who's picked up thirty by them last. Season they
1:18:33
Speaker 6: think that his upside is much more grater Than, zubots
1:18:37
Speaker 6: and they think that they can piecemeal it this season right.
1:18:41
Speaker 6: Now so The clippers Added Darius. Garland they made that
1:18:44
Speaker 6: great trade For James harden For Darius. Garland they gained
1:18:47
Speaker 6: ten years on. That they gave ten years on, That but.
1:18:50
Speaker 5: Is a risk.
1:18:51
Speaker 6: Involved right, now The clippers are the oldest team in THE, nba, oldest, oldest,
1:18:56
Speaker 6: oldest and The warriors are second.
1:18:58
Speaker 2: Oldest let's zero in on some of the non jazz
1:19:03
Speaker 2: trades as we get to the other. Side Gordy Gordy
1:19:05
Speaker 2: chiasa in studio with it's a long Time utah jazz
1:19:09
Speaker 2: coach and of course with us here ON espn seven
1:19:13
Speaker 2: hundred ninety two point one for a how long have
1:19:17
Speaker 2: you been doing this radio thing just since you hung it?
1:19:19
Speaker 5: Up, yeah for the last eight, years.
1:19:22
Speaker 2: Okay eight years going on a decade or so doing
1:19:24
Speaker 2: some radio. Stuff always Appreciate gordy's. Time it is The
1:19:28
Speaker 2: sean O'Connell show on A. THURSDAY i Am Porter larson
1:19:31
Speaker 2: phill and In James peterson behind the. Glass we'll be
1:19:34
Speaker 2: back with More gordy on the other SIDE nfl in
1:19:37
Speaker 2: the one pm hour and we'll go from. There on A,
1:19:40
Speaker 2: thursday IT'S espn seven hundred and ninety two point ONE.
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Speaker 9: Fm as you were listening to The sean O'Connell show
1:19:50
Speaker 9: from The Murdoch Hunting studio OF espn seven hundred and
1:19:54
Speaker 9: ninety two to one A.
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Speaker 2: utes and. More it Is utah's number one sports Talk
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Speaker 2: Am Porter larson filling in FOR oc. Today you've Got
1:20:24
Speaker 2: bryce And biannucci filling in FOR oc, tomorrow and then
1:20:28
Speaker 2: of course The drive With spence Check its comes your
1:20:31
Speaker 2: way each and every. AFTERNOON i will be along for
1:20:35
Speaker 2: the ride on that. Show we've Got Gordy chiyasa in
1:20:39
Speaker 2: studio with us right now talking some jazz and SOME.
1:20:43
Speaker 2: Nba we went through the jazz trades so, far what they,
1:20:48
Speaker 2: added what they, lost where that leaves them in contract
1:20:52
Speaker 2: talks going Into july with One Walker. Kessler now we'll
1:20:55
Speaker 2: go around to THE nba a little bit as more
1:20:58
Speaker 2: trades are, developing and we're gon we're gonna rewind a little.
1:21:02
Speaker 2: Bit go back To february, third The Chicago. Bulls they
1:21:09
Speaker 2: brought In Mike, Conley Jaden, ivy sending Out Kevin, Herder
1:21:13
Speaker 2: Dario sarich and a twenty twenty six first round protected
1:21:17
Speaker 2: pick from The. Timberwolves now that one intrigues me because
1:21:20
Speaker 2: number One Mike, conley a guy that we're very familiar with,
1:21:23
Speaker 2: here but it's also one of the only picks traded
1:21:27
Speaker 2: this year so. Far that, is in twenty twenty. Six
1:21:29
Speaker 2: the league is telling, us without telling us out, loud
1:21:34
Speaker 2: that they value twenty twenty six picks a whole lot
1:21:37
Speaker 2: more than they do twenty twenty, seven twenty twenty. Eight
1:21:40
Speaker 2: AND i think that that's obvious to tell. Why BUT
1:21:43
Speaker 2: i wonder from your, experience your, perspective and maybe just
1:21:49
Speaker 2: looking at some of the, prospects why teams are so
1:21:51
Speaker 2: willing to move off of these twenty twenty seven.
1:21:53
Speaker 6: Picks the reason why this year should be a really tremendous.
1:21:58
Speaker 6: Draft teams want to stay in the, draft and if they,
1:22:02
Speaker 6: don't they like to trade into, it and so they'll
1:22:05
Speaker 6: they'll trade future out to try to be in this year's.
1:22:09
Speaker 6: Draft and The bulls are an interesting team because they've
1:22:13
Speaker 6: been stuck in the middle right now of the playing
1:22:16
Speaker 6: tornet for the last few, years and so right now
1:22:19
Speaker 6: the twenty four and twenty seven and he mentioned Fim Mike,
1:22:21
Speaker 6: Conedy Mike, conley former jazz man who's a he's a
1:22:25
Speaker 6: thirty eight years, young and he got traded, twice ready to.
1:22:30
Speaker 6: Supporter he got traded From minnesota To, chicago And chicago
1:22:34
Speaker 6: traded him this morning to The. Hornets So Mike conley's
1:22:38
Speaker 6: on The hornets right. Now AND i read an article
1:22:40
Speaker 6: that he might go back to The Tea. Wolves they
1:22:42
Speaker 6: might just let him go as far as a. Buyout
1:22:44
Speaker 6: he gets back to original, teen the Tee. Wolves so
1:22:46
Speaker 6: here's the if you're A bulls, fan here's The bulls
1:22:49
Speaker 6: did right. Now they added Uh Darius. Savage they Added Jaden,
1:22:53
Speaker 6: ivy who's very good from The, pistons who'll give them
1:22:56
Speaker 6: a good. Boost they edited Also Infony simons from The,
1:23:01
Speaker 6: celts who's a good, player could be the Sixth man
1:23:04
Speaker 6: of The. Year Leonard, miller they also added from The Tee.
1:23:07
Speaker 6: Wolves they had Also Rob dillingham from the Te. Wolves
1:23:10
Speaker 6: then they Added Colin, sexon former jazz man from The Charlotte,
1:23:16
Speaker 6: hornets And Uzman jane from The. Thunder so they're really.
1:23:22
Speaker 6: Active because for The bull's point of, view enough of
1:23:26
Speaker 6: this just being in the middle of. It they're going
1:23:28
Speaker 6: to try to go all in to attempt to get
1:23:31
Speaker 6: into the top six to make the, playoffs to show
1:23:34
Speaker 6: their fan base and ownership level that they can get
1:23:38
Speaker 6: better right.
1:23:39
Speaker 5: Now so that's an interesting.
1:23:40
Speaker 3: Thing The.
1:23:40
Speaker 6: Cavaliers, okay these guys The, cavaliers they edited at the trading,
1:23:45
Speaker 6: Deadline Dennis shrewder And Kean ellis from The Sacramento. Kinks
1:23:50
Speaker 6: And Kean ellis is very. Good he's a defensive player
1:23:54
Speaker 6: that can guard the ball and also he's a calm
1:23:57
Speaker 6: utility player where he can play both, one two and.
1:24:00
Speaker 5: Three because of the.
1:24:02
Speaker 6: Size he's a much very better version of Former jazz,
1:24:06
Speaker 6: three former youth Standout Dylon. Wright that's what he plays.
1:24:09
Speaker 6: Like and they also, added obviously the biggest one Was James.
1:24:14
Speaker 6: Harden so the question now for The, cavaliers who won
1:24:18
Speaker 6: sixty games last year but had back to back years
1:24:22
Speaker 6: they got knocked out in the playoffs really early last.
1:24:25
Speaker 6: Year in the playoffs they beat The heat four zero
1:24:28
Speaker 6: and lost to The pacers four games to. One so
1:24:31
Speaker 6: Now James hardens. There so Now James harden And Donovan,
1:24:35
Speaker 6: Mitchell Evan mobley And Jared allen And Kean ellis And
1:24:41
Speaker 6: Dennis shrewder and Former Utah state Aggie Sam. Merrill can
1:24:46
Speaker 6: those guys get deeper in the playoffs? Philosophically so here's the,
1:24:51
Speaker 6: port here's.
1:24:52
Speaker 3: The question to you And.
1:24:53
Speaker 6: James do you think That James harden And Donvin mitchell
1:24:57
Speaker 6: can coexist with the?
1:24:58
Speaker 5: Ball with both guys a ball?
1:25:01
Speaker 3: Dominant that was WHAT i was about to ask ask.
1:25:03
Speaker 2: You not only is there enough basketballs In cleveland to
1:25:07
Speaker 2: support both of those, guys is there enough air in
1:25:09
Speaker 2: the basketballs to you, know keep it while they dribble
1:25:13
Speaker 2: the air out of the.
1:25:13
Speaker 3: BALL i don't, Know.
1:25:15
Speaker 2: Gordy that's that's a tall ask for Both James harden
1:25:19
Speaker 2: And Donovan mitchell because each of those guys are gonna
1:25:22
Speaker 2: have to adjust their game a little bit to fit
1:25:24
Speaker 2: the other guy in very.
1:25:25
Speaker 5: Much so that's the.
1:25:25
Speaker 6: Question, hey we love each, other that he's my, cousin
1:25:29
Speaker 6: and so we're going to make it work right, Now
1:25:32
Speaker 6: and no one knows the answer until you know the.
1:25:35
Speaker 6: Calves you're not judge regular. Season you're judged by the.
1:25:39
Speaker 6: Playoffs whether you minimum for The cabs point of, view
1:25:43
Speaker 6: is that minimum you get to the conference, finals and
1:25:49
Speaker 6: you know by the calves The caves are the highest
1:25:53
Speaker 6: paid payroll in THE. Nba, however they shed basically ninety
1:25:57
Speaker 6: million dollars off their attack penalty on moving guys. Around,
1:26:02
Speaker 6: Now James, harden we know it's on the. Contract he's
1:26:06
Speaker 6: gonna op out and probably he helps to sign a
1:26:09
Speaker 6: new tier year deal In july, first for roughly forty
1:26:12
Speaker 6: million dollars a year times, two he goes eighty. Million
1:26:15
Speaker 6: And James harden right now he just fin he gets that.
1:26:18
Speaker 6: Contract he'll be thirty nine years. Old so there's a
1:26:23
Speaker 6: risk involved for The. Cavaliers but another another part of
1:26:26
Speaker 6: that as far as the palace. Intrigue, oh by the,
1:26:29
Speaker 6: Way Donovan mitchell's up for the extension Super Max july.
1:26:34
Speaker 6: First so The cavs they're all in as we speak
1:26:38
Speaker 6: right now to try to get and beat out their,
1:26:42
Speaker 6: competition which right now is The, pistons The king From,
1:26:46
Speaker 6: apartment The, nicks The. Celtics they're all ahead of them right.
1:26:50
Speaker 6: Now so who knows the. Answer we're gonna find out
1:26:53
Speaker 6: porter roughly sometime In.
1:26:55
Speaker 2: May James Donovan, Mitchell James. Harden are there enough basketballs
1:27:03
Speaker 2: not only In, cleveland but in the entire state Of?
1:27:05
Speaker 3: Ohio for those two guys to to run an.
1:27:08
Speaker 4: OFFENSE i, Listen James harden is going to fool people
1:27:13
Speaker 4: the second half of the.
1:27:14
Speaker 3: Season i'm. Not there's no doubt about.
1:27:16
Speaker 4: It he always he, always he always makes himself and
1:27:20
Speaker 4: his team look really good in the regular, season particularly post. Trade,
1:27:25
Speaker 4: right and we're very familiar With James harden post trade
1:27:28
Speaker 4: at this. Point this is his fourth team in the
1:27:30
Speaker 4: last six. Years SO i THINK i think he's Gonna
1:27:35
Speaker 4: we're gonna go into the playoffs going, yeah this this
1:27:39
Speaker 4: might just.
1:27:39
Speaker 3: Work but then we're gonna get in the.
1:27:41
Speaker 4: Playoffs he's gonna disappoint again and he's got nine might
1:27:47
Speaker 4: disappoint some again in the, playoffs although he typically plays well.
1:27:52
Speaker 4: Individually but THERE i don't. KNOW I I i think
1:27:55
Speaker 4: this is a recipe for disaster For. Cleveland far be
1:27:58
Speaker 4: it for me to disparage Another james's name, though, Right James.
1:28:01
Speaker 3: Harden oh you're going To.
1:28:03
Speaker 5: JAMES i like, That.
1:28:04
Speaker 6: James and by the, Way James, Peterson cleveland is the
1:28:08
Speaker 6: home of a rock and Roll hall Of.
1:28:09
Speaker 5: Fame this is.
1:28:10
Speaker 6: True, Yeah SO i want to make that point about
1:28:12
Speaker 6: it that Here port AND i way be on just
1:28:14
Speaker 6: talking about THE nba right, NOW i want to make
1:28:15
Speaker 6: that point speaking making me a.
1:28:17
Speaker 3: POINT i do want to ask, though before we move.
1:28:19
Speaker 2: On, okay it's not just the ball dominance of those two,
1:28:23
Speaker 2: players what about the defensive side very. MUCH i, Mean
1:28:27
Speaker 2: donovan has some some good defensive traits and, skills but
1:28:31
Speaker 2: he just hasn't ever been A i would, say a plus.
1:28:34
Speaker 2: Defender and then With, harden he's an interesting. One he's
1:28:38
Speaker 2: led the league in steals, before but he a lot
1:28:42
Speaker 2: of times he's getting those steals on like you, know
1:28:45
Speaker 2: behind the, Back OH i got, Beat i'm gonna tap
1:28:47
Speaker 2: the ball. Out he's good at getting into passing, lanes
1:28:50
Speaker 2: but as a one on one, defender he plays WHAT
1:28:53
Speaker 2: i like to call ola, defense.
1:28:55
Speaker 3: Right where you're trying to.
1:28:59
Speaker 2: Not necessarily stay in front of a Guy, gordy but
1:29:02
Speaker 2: you're trying to funnel him into the good defender behind.
1:29:05
Speaker 8: You.
1:29:06
Speaker 2: Right The jazz saw a bunch of this With Rudy,
1:29:08
Speaker 2: gobert where, yeah your player may not have scored Because
1:29:14
Speaker 2: Rudy gobert was your, backup but you allowed him to
1:29:17
Speaker 2: get into the lane and break down the defense and
1:29:19
Speaker 2: then kick it out to the. Corner that's something That
1:29:21
Speaker 2: James harden IS i don't want to say really good
1:29:24
Speaker 2: at because it's not a good trait in my. Opinion
1:29:27
Speaker 2: he does it a lot, though where you just see
1:29:29
Speaker 2: him kind of open, up let a guy penetrate and
1:29:32
Speaker 2: then hope that there's a good defender behind. Him For James, harden,
1:29:36
Speaker 2: luckily there's usually been a good defender behind, him A Clint,
1:29:39
Speaker 2: capella A zoo bots now A Jared. Allen but, man
1:29:43
Speaker 2: that can only work so often when you're. Playing LIKE i,
1:29:47
Speaker 2: Said i'd like to call it ola.
1:29:48
Speaker 5: Defense, yeah very.
1:29:49
Speaker 6: Much so in the playoffs you get exposed your lack
1:29:51
Speaker 6: of defense and there's a risk, involved, certainly but The
1:29:54
Speaker 6: cavs are willing to do that as far as you're
1:29:57
Speaker 6: going to try to have a high octam offense where
1:30:01
Speaker 6: they're going to try to outscore people and we'll find
1:30:05
Speaker 6: out if that's also it's gonna happen as far as
1:30:07
Speaker 6: in the, playoffs, Right, lakers there's so Many laker fans
1:30:11
Speaker 6: living here In Salt Lake city from so Can A.
1:30:14
Speaker 6: Right so, yeah it's almost like when The jazz play The.
1:30:16
Speaker 6: Lakers unfortunately that there's so Many laker fans that are
1:30:19
Speaker 6: coming here a, Right, Lakers Austin. Reeves that guy is very.
1:30:24
Speaker 6: Good he's up for the. Extension they're gonna give it to.
1:30:27
Speaker 6: Him so The, lakers it again sounds weird saying, it
1:30:32
Speaker 6: but they hung in there so far there thirty and
1:30:35
Speaker 6: nineteen and that there right now they're a sixth. Seed
1:30:39
Speaker 6: they Get Austin reeves, back it's gonna. Help but they
1:30:41
Speaker 6: also edit Today. Lukenard lukenard is a knockdown shooter roughly
1:30:46
Speaker 6: forty two point five percent koreer from the. Field he's a,
1:30:49
Speaker 6: southpaw and so when they double Team luker on, perimeter
1:30:53
Speaker 6: or double Team Lebron james in the mid, block or
1:30:55
Speaker 6: he also on perimeter And lukenard's in the, game they're
1:30:59
Speaker 6: both gonna be swing swing for a corner three point.
1:31:02
Speaker 5: Shot so they most.
1:31:04
Speaker 6: Times when the when The lebron's teams when they're not
1:31:07
Speaker 6: as successful despite him playing great most of the, time
1:31:11
Speaker 6: is that their lack of shooting from his from his
1:31:14
Speaker 6: floormates on. Perimeter by adding him right, now, Well lukenod
1:31:18
Speaker 6: will help them very. Much and so that was really.
1:31:21
Speaker 6: Underrated the trade Was Gabe, vincent who overchewed with the.
1:31:24
Speaker 5: Heat he.
1:31:25
Speaker 6: Struggled he struggled right now with with with The, lakers
1:31:29
Speaker 6: he moves on and they Had, lukenoid so that's a
1:31:31
Speaker 6: smart move by.
1:31:32
Speaker 2: Them another DEAL i wanted to ask you about was
1:31:37
Speaker 2: The Oklahoma thunder picking Up jared McCain From. Philadelphia The
1:31:42
Speaker 2: sixers get a first round pick via The rockets that's
1:31:45
Speaker 2: gonna be kind of a middle ground, pick and then
1:31:48
Speaker 2: three second round, picks so four draft picks for One jared,
1:31:52
Speaker 2: McCain who he's been injured a little, bit but, man
1:31:55
Speaker 2: he was really good last. Year AND i think the
1:31:59
Speaker 2: thing that stands out to me is his fit with
1:32:03
Speaker 2: the okc, roster a team that you, know just won
1:32:06
Speaker 2: AN nba title. ALREADY i really like What Sam presty's
1:32:10
Speaker 2: doing AND i really like this deal For, okay see
1:32:13
Speaker 2: what what say you very?
1:32:15
Speaker 5: Much.
1:32:16
Speaker 6: So jeed McCain is the guy that played for the
1:32:19
Speaker 6: seventy six ers and his rookie season he was absolutely.
1:32:23
Speaker 6: Sensational then he got, hurt and now he's what happened
1:32:27
Speaker 6: with the seventy six. Ers Bj edgecombe rookie has played
1:32:31
Speaker 6: very well for, them And Terse maxi is one of
1:32:34
Speaker 6: the top ten players in THE. Nba so it's almost
1:32:37
Speaker 6: like a logjam of all these guys ones in his
1:32:40
Speaker 6: prime once a young fella gonna be in prime. Someday
1:32:43
Speaker 6: so McCain was the was the odd guy. Out The
1:32:46
Speaker 6: thunder absolutely added, him and so he's gonna help. Them
1:32:50
Speaker 6: see there's a, Guy Nicola topitch that the last year
1:32:55
Speaker 6: was picked From serbia by The thunder at the twelfth
1:32:58
Speaker 6: pick he. Had so this Year adam is surgery hasn't
1:33:02
Speaker 6: paid the whole, year so just in case that it
1:33:04
Speaker 6: doesn't work out for, him they backlogged that with jere,
1:33:08
Speaker 6: McCain who is a, scorer defensive player and knows how
1:33:14
Speaker 6: to play the. Game and so now with Sha Jos
1:33:17
Speaker 6: Alexander Cason wallace who also see again it is all
1:33:22
Speaker 6: part of. It porter they've got to pay him adventry.
1:33:24
Speaker 6: Someday so just say they don't Pay Cason, wallace Then
1:33:28
Speaker 6: jereed McCain that is really the heir apparent to be
1:33:31
Speaker 6: the backup guard because shake and play also off the,
1:33:34
Speaker 6: ball to say the. Least so again it's it's it's
1:33:37
Speaker 6: ALL i called The domino. Theory as far as we
1:33:39
Speaker 6: trade for guys just in case someone we can't, resign
1:33:43
Speaker 6: we think we can maybe they can't for other. Reasons
1:33:46
Speaker 6: then they have they have the guy to play. There
1:33:48
Speaker 6: it's really a smart. Play, also they Added Mason. Plumbley
1:33:51
Speaker 6: NOW i Know Mason plumbley starts fouling on layup. LINES
1:33:54
Speaker 6: i get it during. GAMES i understand, that AND i
1:33:57
Speaker 6: know that also that he has a weird foul shot
1:34:00
Speaker 6: where he's sort of he's right, handed but now he
1:34:03
Speaker 6: shoots foul shot left handed because he's so bad right.
1:34:06
Speaker 6: Handed all, Right but what he does do it gets
1:34:09
Speaker 6: another big man they moved on. From they moved on
1:34:12
Speaker 6: From Usman. Jag so now they Have, hartenstein they have
1:34:16
Speaker 6: Chet holmgrim and they Have Mason plumlee for the rest
1:34:19
Speaker 6: of the season to be a physical presence to play,
1:34:22
Speaker 6: inside to play against The rockets big, guys and also
1:34:27
Speaker 6: to play Against Nikolai jokic. R to play against Wen.
1:34:30
Speaker 6: Byamba so, again, yeah it a big guy just to
1:34:33
Speaker 6: put a, body put his numbers on numbers to try
1:34:35
Speaker 6: to slow those other big guys down of their arch.
1:34:38
Speaker 4: Rivals and that's obviously a big piece of this is
1:34:41
Speaker 4: trying to build your roster not just the style of
1:34:44
Speaker 4: hoops that you want to, play but also to combat
1:34:47
Speaker 4: the types of players that are dominating in today's.
1:34:49
Speaker 3: Age all, Right, gordy we're gonna take a.
1:34:51
Speaker 2: Break on the final, segment we're gonna recap the trades
1:34:54
Speaker 2: of the day and we're gonna take it right up
1:34:57
Speaker 2: to THE nba trade, deadline and we'll Get gordy's list of.
1:35:00
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1:35:16
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1:35:19
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1:35:22
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1:35:27
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Speaker 2: in about six minutes we will have the trade deadline
1:36:25
Speaker 2: and THE nba with a bow on. It, So, gordy
1:36:29
Speaker 2: it's an assist list on This thursday. Afternoon give us the.
1:36:34
Speaker 2: Loaddown what the jazz career?
1:36:36
Speaker 3: Assists? Yeah WHAT i hear very.
1:36:38
Speaker 6: Much, yeah today's List Porter utah jazz franchise leaders in
1:36:43
Speaker 6: Total korea.
1:36:44
Speaker 3: Assist should we guess some of?
1:36:46
Speaker 5: These number one in the jazz shoot of.
1:36:48
Speaker 2: One number, one of course will Be John i'm gonna
1:36:51
Speaker 2: guess just a few that might. Appear Darren, williams he'll
1:36:57
Speaker 2: be on. There Carlos, royo.
1:37:04
Speaker 6: You're a sick. MAN i worry about. You your mental
1:37:07
Speaker 6: health Is Derrek fisher on. THERE i worry about. You
1:37:11
Speaker 6: And James peterson he wasn't there long. ENOUGH i worry about, you.
1:37:15
Speaker 6: GUYS i MIGHT i worry about you. Guys korea. Assists
1:37:20
Speaker 6: i'll give it to you right. Now for first, thing
1:37:23
Speaker 6: what's an? ASSIST i make this? Question is that asks
1:37:26
Speaker 6: me often over the, years what's an? Exist an assist
1:37:30
Speaker 6: is a pass from one player to a teammate that
1:37:34
Speaker 6: directly leads to a floormate's made. Basket, yes it's possible
1:37:40
Speaker 6: to take one dribble that leads to a direct. Basket
1:37:44
Speaker 6: yes it. Is here's my list. Today number Ten Adrian
1:37:48
Speaker 6: dantley one, thousand seven hundred and.
1:37:51
Speaker 4: Two.
1:37:52
Speaker 6: Koreassists number Nine Gordon haywood one, thousand seven hundred and sixty.
1:37:58
Speaker 6: Two number Eight Pete maravich one thousand and eight forty.
1:38:03
Speaker 6: Four of, Course number Seven Jeff hornisack one, thousand eight
1:38:07
Speaker 6: hundred and ninety. Five number six the Jazz russian Comet
1:38:12
Speaker 6: Andre carolinko one, thousand nine hundred and.
1:38:16
Speaker 2: Nineteen carl's got to be on this, list just out
1:38:18
Speaker 2: of sheer. Time i'll throw that in.
1:38:20
Speaker 5: There number.
1:38:21
Speaker 6: Five he was the jumbo dime. Deliverer he's the best
1:38:25
Speaker 6: ever lefty passer in jazz. History think about, it jumbo
1:38:30
Speaker 6: passer like another, hint, well you call him all the,
1:38:35
Speaker 6: Time james AND i And aussie with a. Swag Joe
1:38:39
Speaker 6: Joe ingles with two, thousand two hundred and Thirteen korea.
1:38:43
Speaker 6: Dimes number, Four Darren williams four thousand and, three number,
1:38:49
Speaker 6: three his nickname was the fastest of the Fast Ricky
1:38:54
Speaker 6: green four, thousand one fifty, nine number. Two he's also
1:38:59
Speaker 6: the leading score in the history OF nba Basketball Call
1:39:02
Speaker 6: malone called delivered five thousand and eighty five assists and
1:39:08
Speaker 6: number One John stockton the highest total IN nba history
1:39:13
Speaker 6: accumulated during your brilliant nineteen year old. Career john assisted
1:39:18
Speaker 6: on fifteen, thousand eight hundred and six, assists which comes
1:39:22
Speaker 6: to ten point five assists per. Game quickly Present jazz
1:39:27
Speaker 6: Notes Kyante george has one thousand and twenty One kree
1:39:33
Speaker 6: assists only in his third, season so he's going to
1:39:37
Speaker 6: keep climbing this, list and let's give a shout. Out
1:39:40
Speaker 6: he's playing tonight In, Atlanta. Georgia Isaiah kalia only his second.
1:39:45
Speaker 6: Season he's Avage Forth's korea six point six assists per,
1:39:49
Speaker 6: game which comes as seven hundred and forty nine, assists
1:39:53
Speaker 6: and last game against The Pacers Isaiah kalia had twenty
1:39:57
Speaker 6: two sweet looking. Dimes and you Mentioned kiante Is alady.
1:40:00
Speaker 6: Thousand conte right now is onenty twenty, one.
1:40:04
Speaker 3: So he's already in the top. Twenty yeah very.
1:40:06
Speaker 5: Much, yeah only his third.
1:40:07
Speaker 6: Season so again The, jazz we talk about who they
1:40:10
Speaker 6: traded for, today today's ago should say all the guys
1:40:14
Speaker 6: they had. Had but the guys right, now Both Isaiah
1:40:17
Speaker 6: klia and cant De, george those guys are really are pass.
1:40:21
Speaker 6: Happy so as The jazz go, forward see The jazz right.
1:40:24
Speaker 6: Now in tonight's, game let's not for. Again they played
1:40:26
Speaker 6: tonight In. Atlanta Tonight's Gaines porter number one assists of the,
1:40:30
Speaker 6: team The Atlanta. Hawks number two is The. Jazz so
1:40:33
Speaker 6: the two passing teams in THE nba are playing tonight In, Atlanta.
1:40:38
Speaker 2: Georgia the one that stands out there AND i mentioned,
1:40:41
Speaker 2: It Karl malone being number two on The jazz all
1:40:44
Speaker 2: time assists list is probably surprising to a lot of,
1:40:47
Speaker 2: folks but when you think of the time he spent
1:40:50
Speaker 2: in The jazz, uniform and Then, gordy if you think
1:40:53
Speaker 2: back that guy when he got the ball on the
1:40:57
Speaker 2: block a lot of time times saw double. TEAMS a
1:41:01
Speaker 2: lot of times saw at least the guy uh stepping
1:41:04
Speaker 2: down from the top of the key and swiping at that,
1:41:07
Speaker 2: ball and he was pretty good at getting rid of.
1:41:10
Speaker 2: It now sometimes he just take on the double team
1:41:12
Speaker 2: and go. Score that's kind Of carl's. Thing but he
1:41:14
Speaker 2: was pretty good at passing out of the out of the.
1:41:16
Speaker 2: Block five thousand plus assists for a guy that high
1:41:19
Speaker 2: on the all time scoring list is quietly.
1:41:21
Speaker 3: Impressive oh very.
1:41:22
Speaker 5: Much.
1:41:23
Speaker 6: YEAH i used to describe there that's the jazz cutting
1:41:25
Speaker 6: series where caging the ball in the mid. Block the
1:41:27
Speaker 6: first thing is always when he gets read and you
1:41:29
Speaker 6: get the, ball you always looked, middle becalled check the,
1:41:32
Speaker 6: dots the dots on the. Floor so you're mid post,
1:41:35
Speaker 6: Player Brian russell right, There you got that, Right so
1:41:39
Speaker 6: add to this so with, ASSISTING i always Kid Brian.
1:41:43
Speaker 6: RUSSELL i always Kid Andre. Carolinko. Uh the five greatest
1:41:46
Speaker 6: cutters of all time and jazz basketball are in any,
1:41:50
Speaker 6: Order carolinko another, List, no here's many.
1:41:53
Speaker 5: Lists, no just just part of the. Segue unofficial.
1:41:56
Speaker 6: List, Yeah carolinko, One harpering, Two Brian russell, Three Shandon
1:42:01
Speaker 6: andson four and five hopefully on the jazz list right.
1:42:05
Speaker 6: Now somebody five playing with the jazz right. Now so
1:42:09
Speaker 6: Pitcha Karl lingo in that like that dive, Cut Bryan,
1:42:12
Speaker 6: Russell Matt, Harpring Shandon anderson and number.
1:42:16
Speaker 5: Five let's hope It's Ace belly.
1:42:20
Speaker 6: Someday great him him coming at six' nine dashing down
1:42:24
Speaker 6: the lane for what that give and.
1:42:25
Speaker 2: Goal cut another reason that we we Like That vince
1:42:29
Speaker 2: williams pick up quietly because he's a really. Good cutter,
1:42:31
Speaker 2: he's yes he is good at moving without, the ball.
1:42:34
Speaker 2: MOVING backside a lot. Of times it's just guys with
1:42:37
Speaker 2: HIGH basketball iq that they can they can, do that, All,
1:42:40
Speaker 2: right gordy it. Is OFFICIAL the nba trade deadline has.
1:42:45
Speaker 2: Coming Past the bucks Are keeping Giannisna the coompo. And uh,
1:42:50
Speaker 2: of course the last big trade that we saw of
1:42:52
Speaker 2: Each of zubats To the Pacers For benedict Mather And,
1:42:56
Speaker 2: isaiah jackson two first round picks and a second. Round
1:42:59
Speaker 2: pick the one he didn't quite get, to really which
1:43:02
Speaker 2: was a decent. Sized Trade jonathan kaminga To the Hawks
1:43:06
Speaker 2: For christops porzingis and a second. Round Pick the hawks
1:43:09
Speaker 2: Get again Kaminga and, buddy healed and Then the raptors
1:43:12
Speaker 2: get a big Man In Trace. JACKSON davis i Don't Know.
1:43:17
Speaker 2: Christops porzingis five years ago that would have been a,
1:43:21
Speaker 2: big move but.
1:43:22
Speaker 3: IT doesn't i just don't know how much he does For.
1:43:26
Speaker 2: The warriors what do you feel like with a guy
1:43:29
Speaker 2: with that unique of a skill set being Outed Alongside.
1:43:33
Speaker 3: Stephen, coe well the frustrating is that his.
1:43:34
Speaker 6: Contracts up it makes thirty point six million, this year
1:43:37
Speaker 6: so it's almost just. A rental you got that right for,
1:43:40
Speaker 6: one season and For the warrior's point, of view there's.
1:43:43
Speaker 6: No future it's like. Right now and so they didn't
1:43:47
Speaker 6: they didn't. Give up they which are glad they know
1:43:50
Speaker 6: they Still, have pozinski who's, very Good In, moses moody
1:43:53
Speaker 6: who's very good. Young player so They added berzingis to Help,
1:43:57
Speaker 6: al haffit who's thirty nine. Years young, All, right brezingis
1:44:01
Speaker 6: he's a. Shop blocker he's light, of weight but he
1:44:05
Speaker 6: does he does can stretch. The floor and so the
1:44:10
Speaker 6: risk involved right now is that is that you can't.
1:44:13
Speaker 6: Resign them but they had to. Do It jimmy butler's
1:44:17
Speaker 6: out for the season and they don't want to Waste
1:44:19
Speaker 6: Another steph curry's brilliance as far as him one not making,
1:44:23
Speaker 6: the playoffs and if do you make, the playoffs trying
1:44:26
Speaker 6: to get past minimum into the. Second round so it
1:44:30
Speaker 6: makes sense for where they are. Right now he gives
1:44:33
Speaker 6: him a, shot blocker a three point. Shooting thread He
1:44:36
Speaker 6: Helps al haffored as far as in, the lane almost
1:44:39
Speaker 6: like a play in harmony right now And A. Draymond
1:44:42
Speaker 6: green you Could Play al horford at STRETCH fo i
1:44:45
Speaker 6: got Five if drumad gets in foul trouble or he
1:44:48
Speaker 6: starts wigging out?
1:44:49
Speaker 2: In games, All, right gordy what do you want to
1:44:50
Speaker 2: see From the jazz over the next? Few weeks where
1:44:53
Speaker 2: you may get some of these, Trade pieces you may
1:44:55
Speaker 2: see them on, the floor but you still understand that
1:44:58
Speaker 2: there's a bonus On the jazz to position themselves for.
1:45:02
Speaker 2: The draft it's hard because you want to see some
1:45:05
Speaker 2: of the fruits of the returns of the, trade deadline
1:45:09
Speaker 2: but you may just get more ANGLING For nba draft
1:45:14
Speaker 2: in twenty. Twenty six what do you want to see
1:45:16
Speaker 2: from some of the individual players that came this way
1:45:19
Speaker 2: well and just.
1:45:19
Speaker 6: Improve defensively as far as the whole group right now
1:45:23
Speaker 6: and those new players get used To the, jazz system
1:45:26
Speaker 6: so help them learn the terminology as far as what
1:45:30
Speaker 6: offensively and, defensive schemes and they add to. The group
1:45:33
Speaker 6: But if I'm the jazz, Right now i'm going to
1:45:36
Speaker 6: try everything possible to protect that eighth pick. Or lower
1:45:42
Speaker 6: i'm not going to risk it. Right now you. Can't
1:45:44
Speaker 6: go so if you had to sit, some people, QUOTE
1:45:47
Speaker 6: rest i would do that because in a, big picture,
1:45:49
Speaker 6: Right now jazz got better. Right now they hit some
1:45:52
Speaker 6: home runs at the deadline, Trade deadline but don't give
1:45:55
Speaker 6: up the future right now because the future right now
1:45:57
Speaker 6: is still evolving what.
1:45:59
Speaker 3: We like with they did at.
1:46:00
Speaker 2: The deadline but at the, same time everything you did
1:46:02
Speaker 2: at the deadline is angled towards also having that top,
1:46:06
Speaker 2: Eight pick so you just can't. Sacrifice it that's just
1:46:09
Speaker 2: the reality Of the, jazz situation, All, right gordy our
1:46:12
Speaker 2: ONE O'clock nfl insider is canceled, On us so we're
1:46:15
Speaker 2: gonna need, your pick your your Insight On super Bowl Sixty.
1:46:18
Speaker 2: Seahawks patriots where we're?
1:46:20
Speaker 5: Going here Oh? Upset patriots?
1:46:22
Speaker 3: Oh really?
1:46:23
Speaker 6: Oh, upset yeah very that's Just your northeastern, Guy, though. Yeah,
1:46:25
Speaker 6: upsets Hey. The patriots they're a. PROUD team i guess that's.
1:46:32
Speaker 2: Exactly, right yeah you have a unique one here where
1:46:34
Speaker 2: you've you've got some time at.
1:46:35
Speaker 3: Both markets.
1:46:36
Speaker 5: THAT'S right i Lived. In seattle it's.
1:46:37
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1:46:41
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1:46:42
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1:46:44
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1:46:44
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1:46:47
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1:46:52
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1:46:55
Speaker 6: a great, game though well we. Shall see. Of Course
1:46:58
Speaker 6: super bowl sixty comes your Way on that. Is One
1:47:01
Speaker 6: gordy chiasa At, G chiasa oh my and one of
1:47:05
Speaker 6: our favorites on the, Station here gordy always good to.
1:47:08
Speaker 3: See you thanks for the. Peace out, he's out, My Dog.
1:47:11
Speaker 2: Gordy chiasa next On the Drive The final hour or
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1:47:21
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1:47:25
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1:49:19
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1:49:20
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1:49:22
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1:49:54
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1:49:57
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1:49:57
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1:50:00
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1:50:04
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1:50:06
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1:50:09
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1:50:13
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1:50:17
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1:50:20
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1:50:36
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1:50:44
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1:50:46
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1:50:50
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1:50:53
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1:50:58
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1:51:01
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1:51:03
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1:51:06
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1:51:09
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1:51:19
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1:51:25
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1:51:29
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1:51:37
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1:51:43
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1:51:56
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1:52:06
Speaker 4: the show you did you you tried your hand in
1:52:08
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1:52:10
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1:52:11
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1:52:14
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1:52:18
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1:52:21
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1:52:24
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1:52:26
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1:52:30
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1:52:37
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1:52:41
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1:52:43
Speaker 2: never was good, at it, and uh never competed in.
1:52:46
Speaker 2: That form when, you did you you also told me
1:52:49
Speaker 2: you you've ridden like the miniature bulls or what do you.
1:52:52
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1:52:54
Speaker 2: MUTTON busting i got on, Some lambs i've I'VE i've
1:52:57
Speaker 2: i got on a mini bowl again out Out to france's.
1:53:00
Speaker 2: FRONTIER days i got on a mini bowl once upon.
1:53:03
Speaker 3: A time how much to the mini? Bulls? Buck oh?
1:53:06
Speaker 3: They buck? Is it is it like the the full?
1:53:09
Speaker 3: SIZE ones i mean.
1:53:11
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1:53:14
Speaker 2: will are like million, dollar investments not only in, their
1:53:18
Speaker 2: nutrition in their, their upbringing but also. Their bloodlines and
1:53:23
Speaker 2: all of.
1:53:23
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1:53:26
Speaker 4: of sense it would be, this way but it sounds
1:53:28
Speaker 4: a lot like, horse racing where you try to you're
1:53:31
Speaker 4: very careful selective. With breeding, oh yes the stock contractors
1:53:36
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1:53:40
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1:53:43
Speaker 4: qualify FOR, the nfr there is a high likelihood that
1:53:46
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1:53:50
Speaker 4: a heavy aspect to the sport in that regard Mechanical
1:53:54
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1:53:57
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1:54:02
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1:54:05
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1:54:08
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1:54:12
Speaker 4: the the, riding side and weren't entirely used to people
1:54:17
Speaker 4: on their back and the plan wasn't for them to.
1:54:21
Speaker 4: Buck much but sometimes it happens ended up in the
1:54:24
Speaker 4: hospital the time. Or two, that's uh that's just the
1:54:27
Speaker 4: way it. May, go yeah so you're a well, rounded
1:54:30
Speaker 4: athlete is what we're. LEARNING today i.
1:54:34
Speaker 2: Would say i've done a lot, of sports not. Very well,
1:54:39
Speaker 2: In fact i'm sitting In the sean. O'Connell show another
1:54:42
Speaker 2: shout out to our guys down At In saint George
1:54:44
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1:54:47
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1:54:49
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1:54:50
Speaker 3: That was that was. Very fun was that when you
1:54:52
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1:54:56
Speaker 3: here YEAH when i was down In.
1:54:59
Speaker 2: In, st george where you, do it you SAW when
1:55:02
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1:55:05
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1:55:06
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1:55:07
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1:55:10
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1:55:17
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1:55:19
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1:55:23
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1:55:28
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1:55:32
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1:55:35
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1:55:39
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1:55:42
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1:55:45
Speaker 2: yeah i very much enjoyed. Doing that, but man if
1:55:48
Speaker 2: you're not going to go, all in it's just a lot,
1:55:51
Speaker 2: of time it's a lot, of energy and.
1:55:52
Speaker 3: It's and it hurts. It, hurts yeah.
1:55:56
Speaker 4: IT hurts i imagine if you're not, fully committed it's
1:56:01
Speaker 4: not very worthwhile because of all.
1:56:02
Speaker 2: That stuff, SO yeah I guess i'm a well, Rounded,
1:56:05
Speaker 2: athlete james if you consider well rounded doing a lot
1:56:08
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1:56:11
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1:56:15
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1:56:18
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1:56:19
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1:56:22
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1:56:26
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1:56:28
Speaker 4: some m m. A stuff we always that's like the
1:56:32
Speaker 4: fifth time in the last Three weeks i've brought up
1:56:34
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1:56:36
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1:56:38
Speaker 4: football game At The sun bowl. DOWN there i was
1:56:41
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1:56:45
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1:56:47
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1:56:48
Speaker 2: We got we got we, got sports, you know experience.
1:56:52
Speaker 3: ALL around i just have never been like great at any.
1:56:55
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1:56:55
Speaker 4: Them yeah so that's That's why i'm here talking. About
1:56:58
Speaker 4: it what what all state to a?
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Speaker 3: Football?
1:57:02
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1:57:06
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1:57:11
Speaker 2: oh i'll put this. OUT there i was a, Good
1:57:13
Speaker 2: RECEIVER like i was a really good. Wide receiver you
1:57:16
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1:57:18
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1:57:24
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1:57:25
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1:57:28
Speaker 2: said hey go catch this long this, long Bomb and
1:57:30
Speaker 2: i'd make.
1:57:31
Speaker 3: It happen there. You go so that was kind of
1:57:33
Speaker 3: the them with.
1:57:33
Speaker 4: The football That Concludes porter Lurs and sports resume hour
1:57:38
Speaker 4: On the sean, O'Connell Show Your.
1:57:39
Speaker 2: DAILY dump i Don't think i'll be doing any curling.
1:57:43
Speaker 2: ANYTIME soon i don't Know that i'm going to be
1:57:46
Speaker 2: A Winter winter olympic addition to your guys's little. Little
1:57:51
Speaker 2: scheme but that, being said we'll cover it as it.
1:57:54
Speaker 2: Goes ALONG as, i mentioned curling. Hockey underway we've got
1:57:58
Speaker 2: the opening ceremonies tomorrow and a bunch still.
1:58:01
Speaker 3: To go On The. Daily dump it's a.
1:58:04
Speaker 4: Little strange we'll put a bow on this, after this
1:58:08
Speaker 4: but it's a little Strange and we see This In summer,
1:58:12
Speaker 4: olympics too that we have events before the. Opening, CEREMONIES
1:58:16
Speaker 4: yeah i just why not just some of? Them qualifiers,
1:58:19
Speaker 4: but yeah?
1:58:20
Speaker 3: Why not just my thought is is it? Just impossible is?
1:58:24
Speaker 4: It not is it really not feasible just to move
1:58:27
Speaker 4: this start Of the olympics a couple of, days earlier
1:58:29
Speaker 4: make the opening ceremonies Yesterday.
1:58:32
Speaker 3: And FRIDAY but i. DON'T know i don't know what
1:58:34
Speaker 3: all goes.
1:58:35
Speaker 5: Into that.
1:58:38
Speaker 2: What else we got here in the, Daily, DUMP oh
1:58:40
Speaker 2: NC double a has denied the Appeal For, trinidad chambliss
1:58:43
Speaker 2: he will not get his sixty year. OF eligibility i
1:58:46
Speaker 2: think the right call on the side OF the NC,
1:58:47
Speaker 2: double a even though THE problem i have with it
1:58:50
Speaker 2: is that now it's, so arbitrary you don't know who's gonna,
1:58:53
Speaker 2: get what when. AND where i think we're at a,
1:58:56
Speaker 2: place where even THOUGH the NC double a Shout Out kyle,
1:59:02
Speaker 2: whittingham recipes.
1:59:05
Speaker 3: Even THOUGH the u.
1:59:08
Speaker 4: Shall not be named or The former utah football coach
1:59:10
Speaker 4: On the sean, O'Connell SHOW.
1:59:11
Speaker 2: The NC, TWO a i think is at a place
1:59:13
Speaker 2: even though they have no teeth, for enforcement they have
1:59:16
Speaker 2: to put their foot down in some former fashion on.
1:59:19
Speaker 2: The eligibility they're not gonna get anywhere really with the
1:59:23
Speaker 2: nil stuff that's out of. The bag but the, eligibility
1:59:27
Speaker 2: thing and it's less for me about. The age there
1:59:30
Speaker 2: have been twenty eight and twenty nine year old college.
1:59:32
Speaker 2: FOOTBALL players I Remember nate boyer was a long Snapper
1:59:37
Speaker 2: for texas when he was, like thirty ended up playing
1:59:40
Speaker 2: For the seahawks for. A year the age thing is
1:59:43
Speaker 2: not the issue for me as much as. The eligibility
1:59:46
Speaker 2: when you have played a full, four years you should.
1:59:49
Speaker 2: Be done you should get five to. Play four THAT'S the.
1:59:53
Speaker 2: Ncaa eligibility you shouldn't get six to. Play seven seven to.
1:59:58
Speaker 2: Play SIX the, covid okay we'll give. Them one but outside, of,
2:00:03
Speaker 2: THAT man i THINK the ncaa really does have to, just,
2:00:06
Speaker 2: say hey line in the. Sand here you can't really
2:00:09
Speaker 2: do much, about, age, because hey some guys get to.
2:00:12
Speaker 2: College late some guys don't have that opportunity to till
2:00:15
Speaker 2: they're twenty. Twenty one so, for me if you're twenty
2:00:18
Speaker 2: six years old and you're still technically and actually a senior,
2:00:24
Speaker 2: in college, then, Yeah okay i'm okay with you playing.
2:00:27
Speaker 2: Some football but if you're twenty seven years old and
2:00:31
Speaker 2: you have played seven eight years of college football with,
2:00:36
Speaker 2: out injury, you know red shirts or, hardship waivers all of,
2:00:42
Speaker 2: the above we got to. Call it and if you've,
2:00:44
Speaker 2: played professionally if you opted to not take advantage of
2:00:51
Speaker 2: the college route and you have gone and made millions
2:00:54
Speaker 2: of dollars or even hundreds of thousands of dollars, playing
2:00:58
Speaker 2: professionally either overseas IN The g league or in some form. Or,
2:01:02
Speaker 2: FASHION man i think your clock. RUNS out i. REALLY
2:01:06
Speaker 2: do i think your clock. Runs out that's how it's,
2:01:07
Speaker 2: Always been that's how it. Should be and if you're,
2:01:11
Speaker 2: an amateur if you're playing, collegiate athletes you should not
2:01:14
Speaker 2: have been in the past a. Professional athlete now where
2:01:18
Speaker 2: that gets into tricky waters as if you're maybe playing
2:01:20
Speaker 2: different sports right where maybe you're a professional Skier Like,
2:01:23
Speaker 2: andy phillips he could still play. COLLEGE football i don't
2:01:27
Speaker 2: see an issue. With That The jeremy. Brooks Thing, danny
2:01:30
Speaker 2: ainge way back in the day.
2:01:31
Speaker 4: He played he played a couple of years For The
2:01:35
Speaker 4: Toronto blue jays and in their minor, league system and
2:01:39
Speaker 4: then went back to school and played.
2:01:41
Speaker 3: COLLEGE Basketball i actually it.
2:01:42
Speaker 4: Didn't burn its, eligibility though which is My, main yeah
2:01:46
Speaker 4: he's still had eligibility and it was a, different sport
2:01:50
Speaker 4: so he was allowed. TO play, i actually a few
2:01:52
Speaker 4: years Ago At Jazz, Media day danny was just sitting around.
2:01:57
Speaker 3: Hanging out.
2:02:00
Speaker 4: We were waiting for players and coaches to to, come
2:02:03
Speaker 4: through and he was Talking about someone asked him about
2:02:07
Speaker 4: his baseball CAREER and I and i took the opportunity to, be, like,
2:02:10
Speaker 4: so wait what did THE nca ncaa say about you
2:02:15
Speaker 4: already being a professional and a different sport when he
2:02:17
Speaker 4: went because you PLAYED at buyu after you Played In Major,
2:02:22
Speaker 4: League baseball and, he, said yeah.
2:02:24
Speaker 3: Different sports it.
2:02:25
Speaker 4: Was fine so that was that was enlightening for ME
2:02:27
Speaker 4: because i had thought at, that time if you're, a
2:02:31
Speaker 4: pro you're. A pro it didn't matter. What sport but
2:02:33
Speaker 4: apparently it that. Sport matters and And The andy phillips
2:02:37
Speaker 4: is a recent one that that's a that's a relevant
2:02:41
Speaker 4: one too because he he had already, pro skier competitive
2:02:45
Speaker 4: skier before he Kicked, for, Utah right so something to
2:02:49
Speaker 4: remember as. We complain there's plenty of reasons to complain
2:02:53
Speaker 4: about the state of. College athletics but when you see something,
2:02:57
Speaker 4: like that that's always.
2:02:59
Speaker 3: Been kosher and.
2:03:00
Speaker 4: WITH the, ncaa ranks going Back to Trinida, at shambliss though.
2:03:03
Speaker 3: He's played four years he played for he. Played, prospect
2:03:09
Speaker 3: yeah he played three or? Four years was it four
2:03:11
Speaker 3: Years At? Fairris?
2:03:11
Speaker 4: STATE Yeah NC Double a Division Two, fairs state by,
2:03:15
Speaker 4: The way and people want to say all these players
2:03:18
Speaker 4: and people who are arguing for these play on behalf
2:03:22
Speaker 4: of these. Players there they always want to Point To
2:03:26
Speaker 4: diego pavia getting one of his junior. College, years no.
2:03:29
Speaker 4: Will fight junior college IS not NC, double, a right
2:03:32
Speaker 4: it's a DIFFERENT Division NC, Double a. Division two did
2:03:36
Speaker 4: YOU hear NC double? A there so that's That's why,
2:03:39
Speaker 4: i'm like as MUCH as i would as Much as
2:03:42
Speaker 4: i'm like division two Is not, division one as much
2:03:46
Speaker 4: as you want to, be like, he should he should
2:03:49
Speaker 4: get one of those years taken away because It's not.
2:03:50
Speaker 4: Division one it's STILL N C. Double A so i
2:03:53
Speaker 4: don't Feel bad i'm not getting. Another year sorry. About
2:03:56
Speaker 4: that he's not going to get his six year.
2:03:57
Speaker 2: Of eligibility and as we, talked about it's not Like
2:04:00
Speaker 2: matt asciata, sixth year where you HAD a, acl gone
2:04:03
Speaker 2: you came back and played one game and had another,
2:04:05
Speaker 2: big injury and you literally lost, two years physically lost. Two,
2:04:11
Speaker 2: years no he's played a full four and a half
2:04:13
Speaker 2: five years of.
2:04:14
Speaker 3: College football at.
2:04:16
Speaker 2: That point especially when you're a guy who has the
2:04:19
Speaker 2: potential to be a, pro professional we just gotta we
2:04:22
Speaker 2: just gotta call it as we, see it, and, he's
2:04:25
Speaker 2: uh he's gonna have. To GO and, i think not
2:04:27
Speaker 2: to labor the Point, on trinidad it's got to be
2:04:31
Speaker 2: that case for other players who are asking for.
2:04:33
Speaker 4: Similar Things joey aguilar is just recently gotten. The news
2:04:37
Speaker 4: he's looking he played two years of junior. College ball
2:04:41
Speaker 4: he's looked he already got one of. THOSE years i
2:04:45
Speaker 4: guess the player that has played. Professionally, already, yeah, like, well,
2:04:51
Speaker 4: yeah basketball it's going even crazier with these guys with.
2:04:56
Speaker 3: Pro contracts, SO yeah.
2:04:58
Speaker 4: I chance the other Thing, about chambalis just to close,
2:05:02
Speaker 4: up here he's a guy who's good enough to.
2:05:04
Speaker 3: Be, drafted yeah like just.
2:05:06
Speaker 4: You will, Be dude he's not very tall and that
2:05:08
Speaker 4: always counts against you in the draft IN the, Nfl
2:05:12
Speaker 4: draft but like put on, the tape scouts and general
2:05:16
Speaker 4: managers are gonna, be, like yeah we'll take a flyer in, this, guy, third,
2:05:19
Speaker 4: fourth fifth, Sixth round so just just go START your.
2:05:23
Speaker 3: Nfl career do you got to our? Curling updates do
2:05:28
Speaker 3: you know what happened?
2:05:29
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2:05:58
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2:06:01
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2:07:25
Speaker 2: That One The winter olympics And The winter olympics schedule,
2:07:29
Speaker 2: of course with it being Out, in italy going to
2:07:32
Speaker 2: be a little bit different on the schedule for. You
2:07:36
Speaker 2: Guys some olympic times got going at four o'clock am
2:07:42
Speaker 2: this morning with. Some curling the Mixed DOUBLES team usa
2:07:48
Speaker 2: went to bat at eight Thirty, with switzerland pulling up
2:07:53
Speaker 2: the final score sheet for. That one, of course you
2:07:56
Speaker 2: can Find the. Olympics action we can Find the olympics
2:07:59
Speaker 2: action ON The, usa network and our Curling Correspondent james
2:08:03
Speaker 2: peterson has the Recap OF team Usa. In switzerland how
2:08:07
Speaker 2: do we do? This Morning SO team usa actually the.
2:08:10
Speaker 2: Mixed doubles they had two matches TODAY which i. DIDN'T
2:08:14
Speaker 2: know i didn't know that you were that you.
2:08:16
Speaker 4: Had that kind of these these atheletes had that kind
2:08:18
Speaker 4: of stamina to play twice In.
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Speaker 1: WENT o a.
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Speaker 3: Just just an.
2:08:24
Speaker 4: Update here they do these At The Cortina Olympic curling
2:08:27
Speaker 4: stadium And courtinam Fetzo.
2:08:31
Speaker 2: Again italy this is a home advantage for the. Defending
2:08:34
Speaker 2: champions by, The way raining gold medalists Are are oh.
2:08:37
Speaker 4: They Are the italians Are the raining. Gold, medals yes
2:08:40
Speaker 4: it's the. Round robin it's a round. Robin tournament. Started
2:08:44
Speaker 4: yesterday it was The First winter. Olympics events it Continued today.
2:08:47
Speaker 4: Day two team. USA's debut They went they won eight
2:08:51
Speaker 4: Six over norway to start the. Day two am here
2:08:56
Speaker 4: is when?
2:08:56
Speaker 3: That started?
2:08:58
Speaker 4: Uh you and then the aforemention and Match against switzerland
2:09:01
Speaker 4: seven to four in Favor OF. Team usa let's go
2:09:05
Speaker 4: two and. Oh start we love to. See It great Britain,
2:09:09
Speaker 4: over estonia our great allies across the pond There over
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Speaker 4: estonia ten. To. Five sweden Sweden over czechia seven to
2:09:18
Speaker 4: Four Formerly czech Republic, formerly Czechoslovakia now Czechia apparently italy
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2:10:44
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2:10:54
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2:11:09
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2:11:17
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2:11:57
Speaker 2: super bowl that you? Actually remember you remember sitting down
2:12:01
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2:12:04
Speaker 2: the game not, like ME who I thought i remembered
2:12:08
Speaker 2: some Of, the cowboys like at, The end but looking,
2:12:11
Speaker 2: BACK now i only remember my dad like watching it
2:12:15
Speaker 2: BACK on VHS and dvd, because he, you know taped.
2:12:19
Speaker 2: Them all and, you know when your cowboys get knocked
2:12:21
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2:12:24
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2:12:28
Speaker 2: i was two, YEARS old i Remember the cowboys Winning The.
2:12:30
Speaker 3: SUPER bowl i think.
2:12:31
Speaker 2: YOU don't i just don't think that that is a
2:12:34
Speaker 2: memory that is actually in. MY brain I think i
2:12:36
Speaker 2: have convinced myself that. IT is i think that the
2:12:40
Speaker 2: first ONE that i remember sitting down. For live my
2:12:43
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2:12:48
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2:12:51
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2:12:55
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2:12:59
Speaker 2: a super memorable just being my, first one but to end,
2:13:03
Speaker 2: like that, yeah right to have a finish like that
2:13:06
Speaker 2: in a football game where it's all on, the table
2:13:10
Speaker 2: that's that's. Pretty memorable that one might. Stick OUT SO
2:13:13
Speaker 2: i i do believe that one is the FIRST because,
2:13:15
Speaker 2: I know i know for A fact I Remember ray
2:13:18
Speaker 2: lewis And that ravens defense winning the.
2:13:20
Speaker 5: Next. One.
2:13:20
Speaker 4: Yeah Yeah that and also another reason why that's memorable
2:13:24
Speaker 4: for People That rams titans game is memorable for people
2:13:29
Speaker 4: around here is the. Ute Connection kevin dyson was the
2:13:32
Speaker 4: one who unfortunately came up one, yard short of course.
2:13:35
Speaker 4: Getting tackled Was It, mike jones not The Rapper, Mike
2:13:41
Speaker 4: jones Oh? THE rams i believe safety who made? Or
2:13:45
Speaker 4: linebacker and not sure who made the who made the game?
2:13:48
Speaker 3: Saving?
2:13:49
Speaker 4: Tackle There super bowl? Saving, tackle yeah that one that one.
2:13:53
Speaker 4: For sure also. Clearfield High kevin dyson now Now Doctor
2:13:56
Speaker 4: kevin Dyson. In nashville by, THE way i believe he's
2:14:01
Speaker 4: a principle, out there certainly, an educator so and he's
2:14:07
Speaker 4: our audience has definitely heard him On The Bill riley
2:14:09
Speaker 4: show over the in, recent Years and bill has, asked
2:14:12
Speaker 4: him what's what do? You think how do you feel
2:14:17
Speaker 4: about that? Game now and he incredibly, IS like I
2:14:21
Speaker 4: just i LOVE that i was a part.
2:14:22
Speaker 3: Of it that that is a.
2:14:24
Speaker 4: Painful moment that was a painful moment, For ME but
2:14:27
Speaker 4: i LOVE that i was in that, moment still, you
2:14:31
Speaker 4: know with a chance to Win A super bowl and
2:14:33
Speaker 4: play in.
2:14:34
Speaker 3: That game so that that's pretty cool.
2:14:35
Speaker 4: To hear, but yeah, that one that's ONE that i
2:14:38
Speaker 4: WOULD say i remember bits and pieces of certainly that
2:14:41
Speaker 4: FINAL play i. Remember live the first ONE that i
2:14:46
Speaker 4: remember watching the basically the entire game of was The
2:14:51
Speaker 4: Next Rams, Super Bowl greatest Show, On Turf Rams super
2:14:55
Speaker 4: bowl Led By kurt warner and and their loss To
2:14:58
Speaker 4: the Patriots In super bowl Six uh february two thousand
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2:15:06
Speaker 4: i Put on, twitter snarkily the Second ballot Hall of. Fame,
2:15:10
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2:15:14
Speaker 4: one i remember watching the. FULL game i weirdly EVEN
2:15:17
Speaker 4: though i remember parts of the one two, years ago
2:15:22
Speaker 4: the one you're talking About The Rams Titans super bowl,
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Speaker 4: thirty FOUR and i remember the full game of the
2:15:29
Speaker 4: one two, YEARS later i have no recollection Of the
2:15:32
Speaker 4: ravens went Over. THE giants. I had i had to
2:15:36
Speaker 4: now many. Years AGO now i had many. YEARS ago
2:15:38
Speaker 4: i had to learn That the giants were In A super,
2:15:42
Speaker 4: bowl recently and this was of course before Their Two
2:15:45
Speaker 4: super bowl wins WITH the ui manning this PROBABLY like
2:15:49
Speaker 4: i guess, FIVE six, i, learned Oh the giants were
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2:15:55
Speaker 4: they got destroyed By. The RAVENS so i don't KNOW
2:15:58
Speaker 4: why i had no recollection of, that ONE but i.
2:16:01
Speaker 3: Do remember the one before the.
2:16:03
Speaker 4: One, after yeah maybe the best defense that we've ever
2:16:05
Speaker 4: seen IN, the nfl to be honest, with you if,
2:16:07
Speaker 4: you go if you guys want to go back and
2:16:09
Speaker 4: look at, that roster.
2:16:11
Speaker 2: Quite the quite the collection. Of, talent Now some texters
2:16:15
Speaker 2: Their First super bowls that. They remember texter, three one nineteen,
2:16:20
Speaker 2: seventy eight Living in Wyoming with dallas, fans everywhere working
2:16:24
Speaker 2: in the.
2:16:25
Speaker 3: Oil fields he said that was.
2:16:26
Speaker 2: A nightmare, but hey nineteen, seventy eight a pretty good
2:16:29
Speaker 2: year with All those cowboys fans.
2:16:31
Speaker 3: Out There, Bruce, hide yes That was cowboys Over. The, broncos.
2:16:36
Speaker 2: Yes Yes bruce hide says that His First super bowl
2:16:42
Speaker 2: was Number four chiefs Versus. The vikings he was ten
2:16:45
Speaker 2: years old and Was a chiefs fan back then in,
2:16:49
Speaker 2: the day said he Became a vikings fan still am to.
2:16:53
Speaker 2: This day watched it alone and they got their. Butts
2:16:57
Speaker 2: whooped and.
2:17:00
Speaker 4: Unfortunately for People like bruce Who became vikings fans or
2:17:05
Speaker 4: Who were vikings fans in that era when they were really,
2:17:08
Speaker 4: really good what they go to Four Straight? Super bowls
2:17:10
Speaker 4: but they lost all of them or was it? Three
2:17:12
Speaker 4: straight lost all? Of them purple, PEOPLE eaters i think
2:17:16
Speaker 4: was that was? That line that. Defensive Line, marlan Olsen
2:17:20
Speaker 4: if i'm, not mistaken was part of. That, team unfortunately
2:17:26
Speaker 4: they haven't.
2:17:26
Speaker 3: Been The super. Bowl since so that's so that's tough.
2:17:29
Speaker 4: For guys i'm sure that's tough for Guys Like, bruce
2:17:31
Speaker 4: hyde but at least he's a guy who remembers those
2:17:36
Speaker 4: glory days Of the vikings because they haven't been a
2:17:38
Speaker 4: ton of those. Since then but that's what's interesting about
2:17:41
Speaker 4: that it's it's been so long Since the vikings have
2:17:44
Speaker 4: been To The. Super bowl that's a that's way back
2:17:48
Speaker 4: at the. Beginning too that's a shout Out to bruce
2:17:50
Speaker 4: for being able, TO say i remember the. Early days
2:17:53
Speaker 4: almost all, Of, them yeah almost all. Of them Our
2:17:57
Speaker 4: Guy brady bigler about to hit the half. Century mark,
2:17:59
Speaker 4: he says so happy early. Fiftieth Birthday sir Brady remembers Washington.
2:18:05
Speaker 4: In Dolphins So Dan Marino John riggins day's way, back
2:18:11
Speaker 4: then appreciate the appreciate the the text In Only super
2:18:16
Speaker 4: Bowl Of dan, marino's career and it was it was his,
2:18:20
Speaker 4: second Season if i'm Not if i'm, Not Mistaken scott
2:18:23
Speaker 4: mitchell always liked to tell the Story of dan when
2:18:26
Speaker 4: He was, Dan's backup dan TELLING him i thought we're
2:18:29
Speaker 4: Gonna Go super bowl, every, YEAR right i.
2:18:31
Speaker 2: Was spoiled now they they got one Early With dan
2:18:34
Speaker 2: marino on that. Rookie, contract now in, today's game it's
2:18:38
Speaker 2: a little more important to try to Win A super
2:18:41
Speaker 2: bowl on your franchise quarterbacks, rookie contract just with how,
2:18:44
Speaker 2: they scale how tough it is once once you get
2:18:48
Speaker 2: into paying premier quarterbacks a different value. Because, man nowadays
2:18:54
Speaker 2: if you can draft a guy that you like and
2:18:56
Speaker 2: you even if he's a, first rounder you can you
2:19:00
Speaker 2: can get to A. Super bowl you can do that
2:19:05
Speaker 2: on a huge discount based on where it would have
2:19:09
Speaker 2: to be once you get into once you get into that,
2:19:12
Speaker 2: second contract, because quarterbacks as, we know they make a
2:19:16
Speaker 2: bunch of money on those. Second contracts. So interesting Our
2:19:22
Speaker 2: guy Paul Remembers super bowl. TWENTY two i believe It
2:19:26
Speaker 2: was Washington and Denver when washington got the forty two
2:19:29
Speaker 2: to Ten WHEN. Andrew t larsen, No, RELATIONS well i
2:19:33
Speaker 2: don't think there's. A Relation super bowl Twenty the bears And.
2:19:37
Speaker 2: The patriots he remembers watching it with his grandpa and
2:19:40
Speaker 2: grandma on their twenty five. Inch television, of course that
2:19:43
Speaker 2: Was the ditka And, The Bears, famous bears famous Eighty.
2:19:49
Speaker 4: Five bears jim McMahon uyu great the quarterback of.
2:19:54
Speaker 3: That team.
2:19:56
Speaker 4: So Yeah tony parks tweeted into did you see he
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Speaker 4: did the he did a gift in the quote tweet
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Speaker 4: there We go Montana To. JOHN taylor i believe it
2:20:07
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Speaker 4: sixteen THRILLING when I think i looked it up.
2:20:14
Speaker 3: Because he didn't give us.
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2:20:21
Speaker 4: IT anyway a good it was. Twenty three it might
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Speaker 4: have been, twenty Three super bowl. Twenty three maybe.
2:20:26
Speaker 2: Our Guy taylor cram on the, text line The First
2:20:28
Speaker 2: super bowl he remembers Was justin Timberlake And janet jackson.
2:20:33
Speaker 2: Halftime show why do you Remember The janet jackson?
2:20:35
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2:20:35
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2:20:38
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2:20:41
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2:20:45
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2:20:46
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2:21:02
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2:21:04
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2:21:10
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2:21:13
Speaker 2: The First super bowls. They remember we'll have To ask
2:21:16
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2:21:20
Speaker 2: your point about the about feeling like you remember those
2:21:26
Speaker 2: things but you were either a baby or, not BORN
2:21:29
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2:21:31
Speaker 2: when it. Actually happened stuff.
2:21:33
Speaker 3: LIKE that i.
2:21:34
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2:21:39
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2:21:42
Speaker 4: bears because that team is talked about and there's, the
2:21:45
Speaker 4: highlight there's documentary. After documentary also here we got the
2:21:49
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2:21:53
Speaker 4: about we see the highlights all, the time And The
2:21:56
Speaker 4: super bowl shuffles talked about all. The time that's one, it's, like,
2:21:59
Speaker 4: OH yeah i remember wat and that except for, me
2:22:00
Speaker 4: personally was that was seven YEARS before i. WAS born
2:22:03
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2:22:11
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2:22:16
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2:22:19
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2:22:26
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2:22:27
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2:22:29
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2:22:32
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2:22:36
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2:22:39
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2:22:43
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2:22:46
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2:22:49
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2:22:50
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2:23:13
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2:27:31
Speaker 10: REAL quick i don't know what the topic was that
2:27:34
Speaker 10: you guys were bantering back and. Forth ABOUT but i
2:27:36
Speaker 10: knew that you guys were hosting the, show TODAY so
2:27:39
Speaker 10: i knew at some point you were going to take
2:27:40
Speaker 10: an opportunity To give lebron a. Little LOVE and i
2:27:43
Speaker 10: heard that coming in what topically what were you, Guys,
2:27:46
Speaker 10: discussed well we.
2:27:46
Speaker 2: Were actually talking about what We Remember, super bowls like
2:27:50
Speaker 2: you physically sit down and Remember watching and my first
2:27:55
Speaker 2: One Was tennessee titans one yard short against THE ram
2:28:00
Speaker 2: i think that was the FIRST time i like actually. Remember,
2:28:03
Speaker 2: watching okay AND then i was MENTIONING that i kind
2:28:05
Speaker 2: of had that same Thing With, michael JORDAN where i
2:28:08
Speaker 2: Feel like i've seen So Many michael. Jordan, games Yeah
2:28:11
Speaker 2: but i've really just gone and watched him back so.
2:28:13
Speaker 4: Many times i've watched so. Many highlights i've watched. SO
2:28:15
Speaker 4: much i only really watched live maybe a year Of.
2:28:19
Speaker 4: Bulls jordan what year were?
2:28:21
Speaker 5: You born?
2:28:21
Speaker 10: Ninety, four, oh yeah so you were a toddler during his.
2:28:24
Speaker 10: Best year jordan was a wizard. For Me The Music,
2:28:27
Speaker 10: city miracle the First.
2:28:28
Speaker 3: Super.
2:28:28
Speaker 4: Bowl yeah THE reason i brought that up IS Because
2:28:31
Speaker 4: i jordan was kind of like a a mystique, to
2:28:36
Speaker 4: Me whereas lebron is kind of, you Know and jordan was,
2:28:39
Speaker 4: thirty eight, thirty nine And now lebron is just blurring
2:28:42
Speaker 4: the lines on all, of that where you've now seen
2:28:44
Speaker 4: twenty plus years of the.
2:28:45
Speaker 10: Same, guy yeah and probably could give you another three
2:28:47
Speaker 10: or four of like twenty eight.
2:28:51
Speaker 9: Four.
2:28:51
Speaker 10: MISSHIP sure, i mean if he wants to keep playing
2:28:54
Speaker 10: First super bowl you actually have. THE memory i think
2:28:58
Speaker 10: for me it's. EIGHTY five i think It's. The, bears yeah.
2:29:01
Speaker 3: Because a lot of texts have said.
2:29:02
Speaker 5: The, same well they were so culturally relevant in.
2:29:05
Speaker 10: A way, you know like The super bowl just started
2:29:08
Speaker 10: to become something that. Was viewed, you know it's always been,
2:29:13
Speaker 10: highly rated BUT like tv ad execs started to lean
2:29:17
Speaker 10: into what The super bowl meant, to them and they were,
2:29:21
Speaker 10: so marketable and it was The Super Bowl shuffle. Jim McMahon,
2:29:25
Speaker 10: you know obviously, the, fridge right like The Famous mike
2:29:30
Speaker 10: dickki giving the ball to the fridge and, you know
2:29:33
Speaker 10: instead of sweetness and everybody getting upset about that and
2:29:36
Speaker 10: Then obviously jim McMahon is kind of an interesting case
2:29:39
Speaker 10: STUDY because byu fans, are, like yeah, you know, he's
2:29:43
Speaker 10: ours but he also golf naked while drinking six Packs
2:29:48
Speaker 10: Up Poro. Provo canyon so Like the JIM McMahon byu
2:29:52
Speaker 10: fan relationship has always been somewhat funny to me.
2:29:55
Speaker 2: SPEAKING of byu. Fan relationships saw you tweet, About, it
2:29:58
Speaker 2: well we'll, Go, there yeah We'll get we'll get. TO it, i,
2:30:01
Speaker 2: MEAN look i sent. It out What in november the
2:30:04
Speaker 2: last time the F the mormons?
2:30:05
Speaker 10: CHANT happened i just and Look like i'm not a
2:30:09
Speaker 10: big fan of what abautism's because currently our political leaders
2:30:13
Speaker 10: only exist in that rhetoric to distract you from like
2:30:17
Speaker 10: how crazy things. Absolutely are but like the fact of
2:30:21
Speaker 10: the matter is it's applicable here because if it was any,
2:30:24
Speaker 10: other religion it would be the front page of EVERY
2:30:27
Speaker 10: single i know people don't read, newspapers anymore but it
2:30:29
Speaker 10: would be the lead story on the. Nightly news every
2:30:33
Speaker 10: single major news outlet would be. Covering it like can
2:30:36
Speaker 10: you imagine If the oklahoma and by, the way would
2:30:38
Speaker 10: you stop saying that you claimed that you?
2:30:40
Speaker 5: Were chanting the Ref. Is mormon we gotta find out
2:30:44
Speaker 5: if he. Was well he may.
2:30:46
Speaker 10: Have been but, That's like i'm quite sure you can
2:30:48
Speaker 10: ASCERTAIN the f word.
2:30:50
Speaker 5: Between refs they don't really even sound.
2:30:53
Speaker 10: The same but if the student Section At oklahoma state
2:30:56
Speaker 10: last NIGHT chanted F, the jews it would be the
2:30:59
Speaker 10: only thing everybody is talking, about today and some of
2:31:02
Speaker 10: those kids would be in. Serious trouble as, it is by,
2:31:05
Speaker 10: my account this is the twelfth time on the basketball
2:31:09
Speaker 10: and football, side combined a student section has decided TO
2:31:12
Speaker 10: chant F. The mormons and the fact of the matter Is,
2:31:15
Speaker 10: until brett You or mark And The big twelve decide.
2:31:18
Speaker 10: That's it and by deciding, that's it you. Go back
2:31:21
Speaker 10: everything's on camera. These days you go back and YOU
2:31:24
Speaker 10: identify i, don't know five to ten students that are
2:31:27
Speaker 10: on camera doing this and say you are not allowed
2:31:30
Speaker 10: At Any big twelve event ever again for the rest of.
2:31:33
Speaker 10: Your life fans get banned from arenas for saying. Racist
2:31:39
Speaker 10: things fans get banned from arenas for life for saying
2:31:43
Speaker 10: inappropriate things to people about, their race about, their religion
2:31:47
Speaker 10: about a lot of. Different things and the fact that
2:31:50
Speaker 10: this continues to just be allowed to happen honestly blows.
2:31:55
Speaker 10: My MIND and i don't have an act to. Grind
2:31:57
Speaker 10: here i'm not actively INVOLVED in. LDS culture i was raised.
2:32:00
Speaker 10: IN it i have family and FRIENDS who i love
2:32:02
Speaker 10: and care about who believe, in it AND therefore i
2:32:04
Speaker 10: will stand up for. My People but i'm not sitting
2:32:07
Speaker 10: here Offended because i'm a member of. The church i'm
2:32:09
Speaker 10: sitting Here because i'm offended at the two tiered application
2:32:13
Speaker 10: of punishment as it pertains to which religion that people
2:32:16
Speaker 10: are allowed to.
2:32:17
Speaker 5: Crack on it just happens way, too much.
2:32:19
Speaker 2: And as, you mentioned it continues. To happen you allow it,
2:32:22
Speaker 2: to happen is the. One thing and, Like you i'm
2:32:25
Speaker 2: not an active member OF the, lds church but, like
2:32:27
Speaker 2: you very. Much connected my Name is porter for. A.
2:32:29
Speaker 2: Reason right my direct ancestors were what You, call, danites right,
2:32:34
Speaker 2: and listen there's a dark and complicated history between all.
2:32:39
Speaker 2: Of that but it's not eighteen forty, seven, Anymore right
2:32:42
Speaker 2: it's that's not what we're living in these ARE. Like,
2:32:47
Speaker 2: i so my grandfather's grandfather was pushed Out Of, Lee
2:32:53
Speaker 2: county iowa, by legislation by a law that said you
2:32:57
Speaker 2: cannot live. Here, anymore RIGHT and i think. THAT loss
2:33:00
Speaker 2: I still I think i can't Live In, Lee county
2:33:02
Speaker 2: iowa based on the. Family thing they're not going to.
2:33:06
Speaker 2: Enforce that but this is again not eighteen, Forty seventy
2:33:10
Speaker 2: so to allow it to continue to happen when we
2:33:12
Speaker 2: have the knowledge, of this we have now one hundred
2:33:15
Speaker 2: and fifty years between actual violence in the actual dark history.
2:33:21
Speaker 2: Of it these are people who do you even Know?
2:33:24
Speaker 2: A mormon do you even know SOMEONE, who's LDS, because
2:33:26
Speaker 2: i like, we said not active in, the CHURCH but
2:33:28
Speaker 2: i exist with an entire family ecosystem friends who are and,
2:33:34
Speaker 2: They're awesome. They're, fantastic yeah if you don't understand the
2:33:39
Speaker 2: weight of what, you're saying just don't. Say it, and
2:33:41
Speaker 2: again if it were any, other culture any other religious
2:33:45
Speaker 2: affiliation or race or whatever it, may be there would
2:33:49
Speaker 2: be news articles.
2:33:51
Speaker 3: All over it wouldn't just be.
2:33:52
Speaker 4: Radio Guys in utah talking, about it would be on
2:33:54
Speaker 4: front page news and there'd be.
2:33:56
Speaker 3: An uproar so what are we? Doing?
2:33:59
Speaker 1: Here?
2:33:59
Speaker 2: Why why why is there not an edict From The,
2:34:01
Speaker 2: big twelve from somebody who's not US or byu, saying hey.
2:34:06
Speaker 2: Completely unacceptable oh and by, the way there's been like
2:34:09
Speaker 2: three SHOOTINGS at lds church houses in the last year
2:34:11
Speaker 2: or secon right got to get a handle. On IT
2:34:13
Speaker 2: and i think it reflects poorly On the, big twelve,
2:34:18
Speaker 2: For sure but now we're allowing it to reflect poorly
2:34:20
Speaker 2: on a bunch of institutions because of a dumb bunch
2:34:23
Speaker 2: of dumb eighteen.
2:34:23
Speaker 5: Year OLDS and, i UNDERSTAND and i understand that it.
2:34:26
Speaker 10: Is, THAT okay, I understand Like the chance don't represent
2:34:29
Speaker 10: the Entirety Of, oklahoma state nor Did, they arizona nor Did,
2:34:33
Speaker 10: they providence nor DID and I could i could.
2:34:35
Speaker 5: KEEP going, i, MEAN okay i.
2:34:37
Speaker 10: Get it but what we're gonna get is some HALF
2:34:41
Speaker 10: assed pr written, statement, like hey a group of students
2:34:44
Speaker 10: does not. Represent us we apologize TO the, lds people
2:34:47
Speaker 10: and then guess what's? Gonna, happen nothing and then we'll
2:34:50
Speaker 10: move on to whatever's next in this crazy. News cycle
2:34:53
Speaker 10: and then in TWO months byu is gonna BE at i,
2:34:56
Speaker 10: Don't Know kansas state, or something and it's gonna, happen
2:34:59
Speaker 10: again and THEN the ad And the president are gonna
2:35:02
Speaker 10: HAVE their pr guru or whatever.
2:35:04
Speaker 5: Type up some.
2:35:05
Speaker 10: Stupid apology this won't stop until there are repercussions.
2:35:10
Speaker 5: For behavior that's how.
2:35:11
Speaker 10: Life works and so Until the big Twelve And brett
2:35:14
Speaker 10: yormark decide to actually, do something it's gonna, be, wash.
2:35:18
Speaker 10: Rinse repeat it's just like every time we have a,
2:35:20
Speaker 10: mass shooting, it's, like hey thoughts. And prayers stick your
2:35:22
Speaker 10: thoughts and prayers where the sun, doesn't shine and absolutely
2:35:25
Speaker 10: do something about the problem because kids are.
2:35:27
Speaker 5: Being, shot oh our prayers are with. The, families great that.
2:35:31
Speaker 10: Means nothing until we do something about, this stuff the
2:35:34
Speaker 10: cycle is just going. To Continue and I'm just i'm,
2:35:37
Speaker 10: Just like i'm over the, entire THING and i feel Bad.
2:35:40
Speaker 10: FOR look byu fans travel as well as any any
2:35:43
Speaker 10: fan base in, the country and Last time i'm watching,
2:35:45
Speaker 10: the game they're twenty thirty percent of the audience dressed
2:35:49
Speaker 10: in blue there to CHEER. For byu if you want
2:35:51
Speaker 10: to chant SOMETHING, about byu, that's fine that's that's in,
2:35:56
Speaker 10: bounds byuver.
2:35:57
Speaker 5: That's inbounds in where we're at.
2:36:00
Speaker 10: With fandom if you want to attack an entire culture,
2:36:02
Speaker 10: of people the majority of whom are, family orientated trying
2:36:06
Speaker 10: to give back to, the community trying to do the best,
2:36:08
Speaker 10: they can just to be good that's where the line
2:36:11
Speaker 10: has to. Be drawn i'm so sick of blurred lines in,
2:36:13
Speaker 10: our country and it is as a result of hate
2:36:15
Speaker 10: speech from, essentially anywhere including the highest office of. The
2:36:19
Speaker 10: land i'm just sick of the lines that. Are blurred
2:36:22
Speaker 10: just be decent to.
2:36:23
Speaker 2: Other people and like, you said as long as it
2:36:25
Speaker 2: just is allowed to continue, to happen, it. Will right,
2:36:27
Speaker 2: so exactly it's on the adults in the room in
2:36:30
Speaker 2: the arenas to just, you know put the, foot down
2:36:33
Speaker 2: do something in some form. Of, fashion, so yeah that's the.
2:36:38
Speaker 2: SOAPBOX today i don't you'll hear more of it two months,
2:36:42
Speaker 2: From now.
2:36:42
Speaker 8: I'm.
2:36:42
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah unfortunately what's coming up On the, Drive, today.
2:36:45
Speaker 10: Well you tell me to want me to do you produce,
2:36:47
Speaker 10: the show you booked, the show you tell me what's.
2:36:49
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