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Fort Hood Soldier missing. Help us find Vanessa Guillen! · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: May fifteen. XM thank you for being our partner. When
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  Speaker 1: you hear the words private first class, many people think
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  Speaker 1: of a guy and camouflage or fatigues wearing a military
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  Speaker 1: hat with a crew cut. Not true. In this case.
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  Speaker 1: The private first class that is missing is Vanessa Gillen,
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  Speaker 1: a twenty year old beauty her Specialty ninety one S
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  Speaker 1: Specialist in small arms and artillery repair. What happened Crime
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  Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace in the last hours we learned
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  Speaker 1: that a beautiful twenty year old girl is missing. We
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  Speaker 1: need your help tiplage two five four four nine five
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  Speaker 1: seven seven six seven. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories.
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  Speaker 1: an all Star panel. Jim Elliott, renowned attorney, joining us
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  Speaker 1: out of Warner Robbins's Georgia lawyer at Butler Snow Butler
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  Speaker 1: Snow dot com. Cheryl McCollum, director and founder of the
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  Speaker 1: Cold Case Research Institute and crime scene expert. Joseph Scott Morgan,
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  Speaker 1: Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University and author of Blood Beneath
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  Speaker 1: My Feet on Amazon. Psychoanalyst to the Stars. Doctor Bethany
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  Speaker 1: Marshall at Doctor Bethany Marshall dot Com joining us from
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  Speaker 1: La Brandy Ke Kanine, Katy Times owner joining me out
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  Speaker 1: of Katie, Texas. But right now joining me is a
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  Speaker 1: very special guest. This is Vanessa's sister Myra Gillen joining
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  Speaker 1: us live. Myra. Thank you for being with us. No
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  Speaker 1: thank you guys, thank you a lot for having me Myra.
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  Speaker 1: I know your family is totally beside themselves. Correct. When
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  Speaker 1: was the last time you spoke to her? As I recall,
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  Speaker 1: it was the morning she disappeared to be completely honest
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  Speaker 1: with you. The last thing that we spoke was on Tuesday.
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  Speaker 1: Tuesday after you, her boyfriend was the one to actually
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  Speaker 1: speak to her. We'll hear from her last Wednesday morning
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  Speaker 1: before going into work when you spoke to her or texted, exchanged,
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  Speaker 1: had an exchange with her. Was everything fine? Yes, everything
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  Speaker 1: was perfectly fine. She was happier than ever when we
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  Speaker 1: were looking forward into actually, you know, getting her a
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  Speaker 1: new car and whatnot, like there was it was, everything
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  Speaker 1: was completely fine. What was she currently driving as of
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  Speaker 1: right now? She owns two an eleven white Jeep Liberty,
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  Speaker 1: twenty eleven white Jeep Liberty and um, I know she
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  Speaker 1: just graduated two years ago from Chevez High School, went
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  Speaker 1: to boot Cap in South Carolina and has ended up
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  Speaker 1: at Fort Hood in Texas. I want to go straight
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  Speaker 1: out now to Brandy Quoncini Katie Times owner Brandy, what
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  Speaker 1: do we know about the last time that she was seen?
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  Speaker 1: So she was seen in the parking lot about one
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  Speaker 1: o'clock last Wednesday. The parking lot was whoa were parking lot?
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  Speaker 1: Was it outside of her barracks or was that at
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  Speaker 1: her aid of her squadron? It was outside of her
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  Speaker 1: hate HQ. Okay, her a Regimental engineer squadron. Yes, go ahead, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: it was outside of her regimental squadron. It was about
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  Speaker 1: one o'clock in the afternoon. And her car keys, her
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  Speaker 1: barracks room key, her ID card, her wallet were found
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  Speaker 1: in the armory room where she was working. I want
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  Speaker 1: to I want to back up on what you just said,
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  Speaker 1: Brandy Koncini with me. We find left behind car keys,
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  Speaker 1: the room key to her barracks, her ID card, and
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  Speaker 1: her wallet. Um, I understand that all of those personal
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  Speaker 1: items were where she had been working that day, in
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  Speaker 1: an armory room, not in her vehicle or where she
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  Speaker 1: was standing outside the HQ. Is that correct, Brandy, that's correct.
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  Speaker 1: Interesting to you, Myra Gillen, this is Vanessa's sister. So
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  Speaker 1: she was last seen outside HQ. All of her personal items,
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  Speaker 1: not her cell phone, We're all found where she had
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  Speaker 1: been working. That tells me she left all of those
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  Speaker 1: items there one o'clock in the afternoon. She was not
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  Speaker 1: heading to her barracks, She was not heading anywhere where
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  Speaker 1: she needed her wallet or her ID, and she was
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  Speaker 1: spotted out into parking lot. Is that correct? Myra, To
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  Speaker 1: be honest with you, as a rank, now, that's what
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  Speaker 1: they're telling us. Her boyfriend had actually reached out out
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  Speaker 1: about let's say a little bit before lunchtime, which is
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  Speaker 1: you know, Toldskim that's when he noticed that the message
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  Speaker 1: wasn't being delivered. So I strongly believe what do you
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  Speaker 1: mean the message wasn't being delivered? So an on his end, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's all you know, when on an iPhone you send
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  Speaker 1: a message, wants the you know, the contact receives it,
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  Speaker 1: it'll say delivered or if the phone is on, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if if everything's okay. Apparently so apparently not. Whenever he
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  Speaker 1: did try to texting her again, it would it wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: send it, like her phone was off already or it
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  Speaker 1: was dead at twelve. It's around twelve, yeen, and like
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  Speaker 1: two week conclude the honest with you, Like when they
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  Speaker 1: see one pm, it throws me off because like I
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  Speaker 1: don't I don't understand, so you think it was more
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  Speaker 1: like twelve pm, But I gotta understand what you're telling me.
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  Speaker 1: With me is Vanessa's sister. Guys, this could be a
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  Speaker 1: matter of life and death. This young twenty year old girl,
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  Speaker 1: who is a private first class at Fort Hood has
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  Speaker 1: seemingly vanished into thin air. Interesting she keeps being described
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  Speaker 1: as a missing military member, an army private first class.
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  Speaker 1: She was not wearing her army outfit. It's my understanding.
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  Speaker 1: She was wearing a purple talp excuse me, a black top,
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  Speaker 1: a T shirt, purple athletic type leggings or athletic pants,
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  Speaker 1: and black nikes. So if you have that in your
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  Speaker 1: head that she's dressed in an army outfit, that's not
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  Speaker 1: what she was wearing according to our reports. I want
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  Speaker 1: to follow up on what you're saying, Myra, because I'm
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  Speaker 1: not sure I understand and this could be very significant.
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  Speaker 1: The boyfriend sends her a text I'm assuming at around
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  Speaker 1: lunchtime the day she disappears, and it quote was not delivered.
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  Speaker 1: Was that a problem with his phone? Because when I
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  Speaker 1: get that, I think is my phone won't send it.
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  Speaker 1: You're saying it was a problem on her iPhone? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: because even myself when he reached out to me, hey
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  Speaker 1: have you talked to then this, I'm like, no, but
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  Speaker 1: I was, and I'm done with whatever it is that
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  Speaker 1: I'm working on, So immediately I call and then goes
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  Speaker 1: straight to a voice moo ah, So immediately you called
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  Speaker 1: it and goes straight to voice me out what time
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  Speaker 1: was that? To be completely honest with you, I want
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  Speaker 1: to throw in between also twelve and one, because at
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  Speaker 1: this point, like Mike, call Love, it's it's a disaster,
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  Speaker 1: it's you know, I can't even go back and the
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  Speaker 1: text them myself as of right now. But okay, well
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  Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm not understanding what
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  Speaker 1: you're trying to tell me. You call her, he calls you. Immediately,
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  Speaker 1: you call her between twelve and one, the day she's
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  Speaker 1: last seen. Is that correct? Correct? And it goes straight
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  Speaker 1: to voicemail. Yes? Did you try to text her Myra? Yes?
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  Speaker 1: What happened when you try to text her? The messages
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't deliver, would not deliver. Okay, let's go to Sheryl McCall,
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  Speaker 1: a director Cold Case Research Institute. That's my timeline right there.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know who thinks they saw her at one
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  Speaker 1: pm standing in a parking lot, but I'd like to
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  Speaker 1: back that up a little bit, and I'm actually concerned
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  Speaker 1: about that sighting because if her phone was already turned
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  Speaker 1: off or had been disabled between twelve and one, what
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  Speaker 1: was she you know, let me ask hold hold on
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  Speaker 1: Cheryl brandy Kinsiny Katie Times when she was spotted in
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  Speaker 1: the parking lot that day, what was she doing? They
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  Speaker 1: haven't really said what she was doing. Crime Stories with
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  Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. Guys, we are talking about the disappearance of
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  Speaker 1: a private first class Vanessa Gillen, just twenty years old.
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  Speaker 1: She just got out of high school two years ago
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  Speaker 1: from Chavez High. All she wanted to do was get
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  Speaker 1: in the army and Server Country boot camp in South
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  Speaker 1: Carolina Linea heads out to Fort Hood in Texas, and
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  Speaker 1: now nobody can find her. How do you go missing
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  Speaker 1: on an army base? How does that happen? With me?
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  Speaker 1: Special guest Vanessa's sister, Myra Gillan, Myra, did you or
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  Speaker 1: your family used find my iPhone? But to be honest
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  Speaker 1: with you, it said sific significantly after twenty four hours,
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  Speaker 1: there was no location. We got no info about that,
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  Speaker 1: but they did get on it directly with their phone
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  Speaker 1: company and that's when they got the records that Apparently
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  Speaker 1: the last signal was here in Forthood at about oh
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  Speaker 1: my mistaken fire, forty five pm. I understood that her
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  Speaker 1: cell phone pained in Belton, about twenty miles twenty minutes
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  Speaker 1: from Fort Hood. What do you know about that? Myra,
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  Speaker 1: So you know, this is a long process. It starts
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  Speaker 1: off police station at the MP's police station. That's where
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  Speaker 1: they've told me that they're pained and Belton. Then a
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  Speaker 1: day later they told me no, that influence in't correct.
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  Speaker 1: It was actually here in Fort Hood. Who am I
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  Speaker 1: supposed to believe? Wow? So it either paying it around
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  Speaker 1: five did you say five five pm? Yes, at Fort
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  Speaker 1: Hood and that's about five hours after it was disabled, correct,
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  Speaker 1: And somebody else told you it paying twenty minutes away
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  Speaker 1: in Belton. But that's been apparently taken back. Okay, Sheryl McCollum,
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  Speaker 1: Director Coal Case Research. Just did she jump in? That
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  Speaker 1: cellphone is critical and to get that timeline perfect, those
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  Speaker 1: teams have got to be narrowed down. So they've got
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  Speaker 1: to do the first warrant. They've got to see who
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  Speaker 1: called her, who takes them her? Because she left everything
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  Speaker 1: else on her desk except that phone, so she took
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  Speaker 1: that with her. So did somebody take her and say, hey,
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  Speaker 1: meet me a parking lot. Did somebody say, hey, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna go run the trail. Did somebody say, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna go into Benton to do whatever? Hey, that's important.
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  Speaker 1: Hold that thought, Cheryl, When you said let's go run
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  Speaker 1: that trail, it was lunchtime. Maybe she was going to
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  Speaker 1: work out. That's a really good thought, Cheryl McCollum. Because
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  Speaker 1: she had on black Nike running is shoes. I've been
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  Speaker 1: told purple leggings or athletic log pants and a black
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  Speaker 1: T shirt and that should not have on her uniform. Okay, okay,
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  Speaker 1: back to you. He's in her pocket and that sort
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  Speaker 1: of stuff her wallet. There's no reason to take that
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  Speaker 1: if she was going for a run. But a lot
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  Speaker 1: of folks will take their phone for the music and whatnot.
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  Speaker 1: To you, Myra Gillan, your Vanessa's sister. Was she a runner?
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  Speaker 1: Is that how she worked out? I'm sorry, Yeah, she
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  Speaker 1: loved to run and the gym. She loved to run
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  Speaker 1: in the gym, or and the gym. Yeah, she pretty
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  Speaker 1: much loved to run and she loved to do wraiths
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  Speaker 1: in the gym. Did she run in the gym or
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  Speaker 1: did she run? Ye? Did tracked? It was outside? Good?
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  Speaker 1: Good to know, good to know that's significant. Jesse Scott Morgan,
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  Speaker 1: Professor forensic Jacksonville State University, helped me out. I gotta
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  Speaker 1: tell you, Nancy, I'm I'm a former soldier and fort hood.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, in the current state of affairs that we're in,
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  Speaker 1: right now, this post is essentially locked down. I want
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  Speaker 1: to know who had access to her. Was there electronic
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  Speaker 1: access to get in and off of the post. I've
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  Speaker 1: heard that intimated at least at some point in time
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  Speaker 1: at one of the checkpoints to get in, because you
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  Speaker 1: know saving that, I have to think that there would
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  Speaker 1: be CCTV, there would be an electronic footprint relative to access.
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  Speaker 1: There would be something to indicate that she had left
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  Speaker 1: the post with somebody, was in another vehicle with somebody.
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  Speaker 1: If not, I'd have to begin to believe that she
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  Speaker 1: would have to be on posts there and the way
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  Speaker 1: they have the same lockdown right now, I would think
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  Speaker 1: that ARMYCIDU is their Criminal Investigation Division, would be looking
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  Speaker 1: at all of this information. I'd just like to ask
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  Speaker 1: one question. I've heard about the boyfriend. He was mentioned
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  Speaker 1: a few moments ago. Is he currently on active duty
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  Speaker 1: and station at Fort Hood? What about it my or
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  Speaker 1: tell me about the boyfriend. No, actually we come from Houston, Texas.
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  Speaker 1: He recites over there as well. To be completely honest
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  Speaker 1: with you, he never ever ever team to visit her
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  Speaker 1: here in Fort Hood. She would always come back every
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  Speaker 1: weekend to us. He probably didn't even know where the
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  Speaker 1: base was at, and none of that. They've been together
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  Speaker 1: for the past four or five years. It's something that's
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  Speaker 1: really affecting him right now, like to the point where
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  Speaker 1: he can't even talk. It's it's something that he just
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  Speaker 1: can't believe, he can accept. It's no, he's not in
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  Speaker 1: the military. So Myra, let me understand. She went home
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  Speaker 1: every weekend to see her family, You and the rest
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  Speaker 1: of her family and him, the longtime love. How far
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  Speaker 1: is Fort Hood from home? I did about a three
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  Speaker 1: hour thirty minute drive. Three hours and thirty minutes. Yes, okay,
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  Speaker 1: So this what day of the week was this to
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  Speaker 1: Brandy Keioncini Katie times, what's the actual date she goes
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  Speaker 1: missing and the day of the week. So she goes
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  Speaker 1: missing on Wednesday, that would be April twenty second. April
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  Speaker 1: twenty second, Now we know the timeline has been refined
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  Speaker 1: around twelve because already the cell phone was not taking
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  Speaker 1: messages on her iPhone. Okay, doctor Bethany, we've learned a lot.
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  Speaker 1: We know she's runner. She may have been exercising that day.
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  Speaker 1: She didn't have on her uniform. The timeline is wrong.
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  Speaker 1: We know the boyfriend sounds to me is out of
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  Speaker 1: the running to be involved with this three and a
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  Speaker 1: half hours away. We would have a digital footprint on
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  Speaker 1: him most likely if he had come, they gotten a
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  Speaker 1: spat and everything went sideways. And based on what Myra
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  Speaker 1: Gillen is telling me, I don't see it as of
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  Speaker 1: right now. Did you hear what Joe Scott Morgan said
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  Speaker 1: about the basse? I'm with you, Morgan, Doctor Bethany Marshall,
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  Speaker 1: conflicting information. First, the phone was pinned at Belton twenty
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  Speaker 1: minutes away. Then oh, that was wrong. She's getting this
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  Speaker 1: from somebody there at Forthood. No, it was last it
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  Speaker 1: was last spotted known to be on the base at
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  Speaker 1: around five forty five in the afternoon. Did she ever
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  Speaker 1: even leave the basse? Nascy, I am so concerned about
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  Speaker 1: the shroud of secrecy over this case. You and this
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  Speaker 1: panel or have and Myra's sister, Myra Mayra's sister is
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  Speaker 1: having to investigate and tack down the timeline, and Joe
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  Speaker 1: Scott Morgan is is letting us know that probably she
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  Speaker 1: didn't get off the base unless somebody would have seen
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  Speaker 1: her because of all the type surveillance. So why the
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  Speaker 1: lack of details, why the lack of a timeline? Who
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  Speaker 1: is who is conducting an investigation about this? Why are
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  Speaker 1: they just keeping it to themselves so close to the vest.
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  Speaker 1: The details that are missening to me, besides the timeline
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  Speaker 1: and what happened on surveillance, are the people in her life.
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  Speaker 1: Someone did something to her. She did not just run away.
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  Speaker 1: She was loyal to her family, She went home every weekend.
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  Speaker 1: She had a boyfriend, Her family was in contact with her.
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  Speaker 1: Who were her friends? Who last saw her there? Who
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  Speaker 1: was she working with in the armory? How do people
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  Speaker 1: feel about her? Did she have a stalker? Was somebody
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  Speaker 1: interested in her? Did she have somebody? There's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of men on that base, I mean fewer women. She gorgeous.
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  Speaker 1: I just have been looking at the photo gallery of her.
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  Speaker 1: Was somebody preoccupied with her? I think that is going
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  Speaker 1: to be a treasure trove of information is the human component.
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  Speaker 1: She did not vanish off the face of the earth
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  Speaker 1: by herself. Someone did something to her. Who is that person? Hi, guys,
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  Speaker 1: Keep the faith Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we
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  Speaker 1: are talking about the disappearance of a gorgeous young private
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  Speaker 1: first class in the Army missing from Fort Hood near Houston, Texas.
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  Speaker 1: Vanessa Gillen with me an all star panel as well
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  Speaker 1: as her sister Myra Myra. Have you ever been to
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  Speaker 1: Fort Hood? Yes, I've been here, I want to say
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  Speaker 1: about twice. Now, okay, when you went and did you
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  Speaker 1: have to go through a security gate? Just passed the
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  Speaker 1: security guard? Yes, visitors center. Did they look in the
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  Speaker 1: car to see who's in the car, who's getting on base? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: they apparently they do check every single person that's in
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  Speaker 1: the vehicle background check. They did my fingers, they took
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  Speaker 1: my picture. They pretty much pretty much did everything. So
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  Speaker 1: could somebody tell me, Joe Scott, let me pick on
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  Speaker 1: you for a moment, how she got off the base
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  Speaker 1: and nobody noticed. I don't know. You know, if you're
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: if you are, and bear with me here. If you
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: are a service member, okay, and you have a DoD
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: sticker which is Department of a fence sticker on your car,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: and you have I d I think that it would
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: be possible to get off of the base without them
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: inspecting your vehicle. So wouldn't they see you? Unless she
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: was in the car trunk, they would see wouldn't they
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: see you? My concern is that she may have been
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: obscured in a car. That's my big fear here, and
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: that that's my fear too, or else she's somewhere on
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: that on board hood and they haven't found her. Meet
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: one get the set dogs? Absolutely massive, Nancy, Okay, I
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: hear you. I know it's massive, um, But you know
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: what if you started in that parking lot where she
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: was reportedly last seen with a set dog. Cheryl McCollum
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: that sent dogs could track Lacy Peterson, who was I
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: think either in a car trunk or inside the back
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: of a boat and covered up with a tarp from
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: her place or Scott Peterson's work from that location, I
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: believe her home on Cavina all the way to San
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Francisco Bay, that's a forty five minute trek. The dogs
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: followed all the way. They stopped at the water. Do
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: we know whether dogs have been brought in? I don't know,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: but that's what I was gonna say, there's no proof
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: she got off that base. They need to start in
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: that parking lot where she was last visibly seen, and
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: they need to work those dogs immediately. Not only is
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: sporthood massive, there's tons of wooded areas like deep woods,
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: so they need to work those dogs immediately. Yes, the
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: dogs could still pick up a cent, don't you agree, Chryls.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: There's no question anything. They would be able to do
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: that with ease. Actually, so again, wherever that trail would
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: lead them is going to tell you whether or not
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: she is still on that base or if she was
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: transported in the vehicle. I believe. I mean a lot
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: of times you see dogs stop at water. I've had
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: dogs and my personal experience go into the water. Okay
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: when they are on a trail to Jim Elliott, renowned
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: attorney joining us from Butler's Snow in one of Robbins.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: You can find him at butler Snow dot com. Jim Elliott.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: The reason I'm asking about a boy the boyfriend. Look,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: I don't have a dog in the fight, but I
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: do know statistically, you look at the boyfriend, the ex,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: the lover, the husband. That's where you look at first.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Or do you agree Jim Elliott. That is no Cassie,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: no aspersion on him at all. In fact, he's to
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: me sounds like he has absolutely nothing to do with
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: this at all. But still that's where you start, certainly,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: that's where you start. You started the quote the people
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: closest to the alleged victim, and you go out from there.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: So that's perfectly logical place for log Forsom to begin. Guys,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: we are talking about the disappearance of a gorgeous young girls.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: She's just twenty years old, two years out of Chevez
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: High School. Take a listen to our friends at hey
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: WTX the news anchor listen. Twenty year old private first
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: class the Vanessa Gilliam's keys, ID card, and wallet were
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: later found in the armory room where she had been
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: working earlier that day. If you have any information on
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Smile Don't Matter, peace, called police. We've been bringing picture
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: of here. We've been posted on most small businesses, gas
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: station with training bass. She was last seen wearing a
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: black T shirt. She's five feet two inches tall, one
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: hundred and twenty six pounds, with black hair and brown eyed.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Fort Hood nicknamed quote the Great Place, the only post
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: in the US capable of stationing and training two Armored Division.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Why you are hearing how vast it is. It's a
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: two hundred and fourteen thousand, nine hundred sixty eight acre installation.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: The rolling semi arid terrain ideal for multifaceted training and
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: testing a military units in troops. The reason I wanted
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: to you to hear that particular sound from k WTX
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: is because you hear the boyfriend one cruise speaking. You
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: know what, doctor Bethany Marshall, I never say never, but
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: this guy is out begging, not with a lot of
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: fake tears that we see in many cases, or the
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: fake crying and no tears. He's out putting up posters.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: He's out begging for help he has. He's where the
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: rubber meets the road. He is out there looking. I'm
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: very tempted to just totally rule him out right now
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: and focus on who was at Fort Hood? What do
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: you make of his demeanor? Let's just put it just
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: us deal with it right now so we can move
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: on to what we think really happened. Well, I think
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: we should rule him out. The only small thing that
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: I was puzzling about was when Myers said that he'd
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: never been to Fort Hood, and if he's insisting to
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: everybody that he never went to Fort Hood, I would
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: kind of want to know why is he putting that
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: out there? But if we can rule that out as
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: a suspicious statement, he is the poster boy, poster child
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: for looking for a missing person. He's crying, he seems
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: to concepear, he's putting out an effort. I think somebody
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: else on that base had some kind of preoccupation with her,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: and I think that that is really where we're going
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: to get all of our clues, our information. You asked
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Jim about why do we look at the closest people
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: like the boyfriend. It's because it's in these most intimate relationships,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: as I always say, that rage, resentment, envy, jealousy emerge.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: And yet Vanessa's sister Myra is talking about this relationship
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: as if it's very positive, like their friends. So if
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: there was a domestic violence component, I would think that
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: that would have come out already. I agree, Myra Gillan,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: this is Vanessa's sister. Do you know where the boyfriend,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: je Crais was at the time Vanessa goes missing. He
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: was at work in Houston. That work words in Houston
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: at work, So that's one hundred and seventy two miles away. Correct, Yes, Okay,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: she knows them to be at work at the time
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: she goes missing. Right now, we have more information about
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: a development in the case. Take a list of our
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: friends at Fox forty four Adam Hooper. Search is still
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: underway from missing twenty year old Fort Hood soldier, and
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: the Army's Criminal Investigation Division is offering a reward of
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: up to fifteen thousand dollars leading to her whereabouts. Ford
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Hood officials say twenty year old Private first Class Vanessa
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Gillen is five foot two, one hundred twenty six pounds.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: They say she hasn't been seen since Wednesday, when someone
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: spotted her in the parking lot of her barracks. Her keys,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: ID and wallet were found where she'd been working earlier
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: that day. Officials say an extensive search is underway. Two
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Vanessa's sister, Myra Gillen. Myra, did she typically work in
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: her army uniform? See, that's another thing that took me offhand. Apparently,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: if you're wearing your black T shirt that's his army
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: in front, then it should be fine. So the fact
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: that she had on purple athletic leggings, we're told. Do
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: you know if they were leggings or were they some
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: other kind of pants? If I do recall, the de's
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: the only pair, so they were ye, workout leggings for sure, leggings, Okay,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: light light tides, so she could wear that to her
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure out if she changed from
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: her uniform into that, then I would know she was
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: probably working out. That's why I'm asking. I'm not conducting
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: a fashion review, but you're telling me as long as
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: she had on her Army T shirt, she could wear
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: that to work. According to them, Yes, that's what I
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: was told. What do you mean according to who? To
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: the army personnel? They told you that? Yes, when did
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: they tell you that? That was when I could see
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Initially when I got here, I went into the base
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: and I talked to her sergeant. First comment like all
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: these different people, that it was hard for me to
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: memorize all their titles and names. Apparently I was. Yeah,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: they told me that it was fine if she was
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: wearing that one army shirt to work. Crime Stories with
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: Nancy Grace. Guys, we are talking about the disappearance of
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: a gorgeous young girl, a private first class for Specialty
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: ninety one specialist at small Arms Artillery Repair, goes to work,
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: speaks to her family that morning via texting, texting back
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: and forth with the boyfriend. Around twelve o'clock, those texts
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: stop being delivered. Now. What we are learning through her
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: sister joining us Myron Gillen, is that she the sister,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: was told the phone was pinged on base that day
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: around five pm. To Brandy Kinsini joining me from the
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Katie Times. What more do we know, Brandy, Well, we
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: don't really know a lot. Generally, when these kind of
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: situations happen, especially on an army base, the army is
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: the one that handles the investigation. So yeah, it really
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: what well, it just you know, the information that we
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: get really is dictated on what they choose to release.
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: To Mara Gila, this is Vanessa's sister, Mara, what more
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: do you recall of what they told you when you
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: went looking for your sister? What we've learned from you
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: that her phone paying at Fort Hood around five o'clock, Myra,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: do you believe that after she was spotted by somebody
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: around one pm? But you think it was earlier in
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: the parking lot. Did she ever return to her office
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: or where she worked? She? Honestly, what I find super
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: disturbing is that if somebody found her stuff inside the
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: armory room, why didn't they just leave it there? When
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: I went the next thing in the morning and I
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: told them, I want to look into her room. I
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: want to see where her car is, I want to
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: see everything where she worked, what building is next to it.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Everything I went, I looked at her stuff. Her stuff
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: was in her wallet. Who moved her stuff from the
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: armory room to her wallet? I don't know what do
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: you mean her stuff was moved to her wallet. Wouldn't
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: she have had her ID in her wallet? Apparently, from
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: what I know, my sister would not take her wallet
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: into her room. She would probably take her ID, which
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: she needs. She would probably take her credit debrecord, or
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: she worked to get hungry and step about to buy
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: something to eat. But her full wallet, I heart know
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: she couldn't have. It was a hip. It was um
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: it was. I forgot the exact things because the wallets.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: But it's something that she would wear around her waist,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: which I hardly doubt that big. Oh Okay, see this
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: changes things for me. So when you go back to
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: find what you're calling her wallet. Most people think of
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: a very thin container that you can slide in a pocket.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: You're saying it's really big. Oh no, And she would
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: not have gone out with that. She would have gone
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: with maybe her driver's license or military ID and a
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: credit card and her cell phone. Would you agree with that, Myra, Yes? Okay,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: that's significant. Also, you're saying that when you went back
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: to look at her stuff, it had been moved from
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: where to where? So if they did find her stuff
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: in the armoring room, the arms room, sorry, that's the
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: correct m arms room. Arms room where all the artillery,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: small arms and artillery was that she physically repaired. Yes,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: so she's not sitting at a desk correct, No, she's
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: like in a mechanics workshop. Yes, okay, all right? That
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: changes things. And who worked around her and didn't notice
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: she didn't come back to work? Apparently for the arms room,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: it doesn't go as far as just about two three
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: people and being there at a time from what I've
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: been learning for this past week, So technically somebody had
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: to be in charge of her. Whoever that person was
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: was either super careless doesn't know how to do their job.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Or is hiding something, because why didn't you say something
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: when you notice that, like, let's say, five hours have
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: already passed it, she hasn't the fact what time does
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: she get off for work each day to be on today.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: That's another thing that throws me off. Due to this
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: whole quarantine thing. Her hours had changed, and she was
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: verily about to tell us, because I recall her telling me, oh,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: they changed my hours for work. She didn't give me
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: the hours, so she just said I have to work
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: this morning, and she didn't tell me at what time
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: she would she were to equally, you know, but there's
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: only so much you can do because because of quarantine,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Like you're not going to have love work hours. No,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: she's still going to the workshop. Was she's still going
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: to the workshop? Yes, so she went that morning, you
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: know that for a fact. Yes, she and no one
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: ever reported what she that morning. She had actually snapped
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: chatted a photo where she was working to her boyfriend
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: to let him know like he an't working. That's something
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: that I know she was there. She was working that morning.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: She snapp chatted BF at from work, and no one
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: ever reported that she didn't come back to work. Nobody
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: seemed to notice. Myra. No, I waited. I was being patient.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, there's no signal in
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: the room. As soon as she's out, she's going to
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: reach back. Everything's okay. But when I saw that clock
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: strike nine and I had no answer from her, That's
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: when I started getting worried. Myra, Jackie's waving a sign
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: at me. Are you telling me she would not have
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: taken her wallet out of her home. No, she used
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: that wallet for the sole purpose of whenever we would
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: head out. It was more like an X story for
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: her to use. I understand, okay, when you spoke with
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: authorities or who are her superiors? Are people there at Forthood?
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: What did they tell you? To be completely honest with you,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: they kept me in the shadows. They apparently had meetings,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: but I was kept out of them. Obviously, I'm not
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: gonna go in their demanding to a military person because
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: according to them, Well, I understand all that, But what
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: did they say? What information do you have? They could
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: hardly tell me anything. They were just apologizing, I'm sorry
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: this is happening. We're gonna help you find her, But
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: no concrete information as to who saw her last. Stuff
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: like that. They didn't tell me, but they did tell
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: you that her phone paged on base around five or
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: five forty five, around five five forty five that day.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Her phone is still on base. Then they couldn't find
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: her phone. Did they go to the location of the pig?
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Like um somebody had previously said, they only released up
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: to so much information. They didn't tell me exactly where.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: They just told me Forthhood and the time. That's it.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Do you have any idea who saw her out in
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: that parking lot? I have no idea, Like there's still
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: have any idea where she was going? No, had she
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: mentioned to you any friend that she hung out with
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: there at Forthood? A coworker apparently the three co workers
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: that she did have in the base, of course males.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: They pretty much stated that they loved Vanessa like a sister.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Was that who she wouldn't really hang out with? Yes?
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Did she have a friend girl that she hung out with?
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: She had a previous roommate, so was pregnant, they got along.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: She got moved out, of course because of the baby.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: So she recently just had a new roommate that she
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: told me she didn't really talk to, so a female.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: I don't believe so right now? A female correct, a
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: female roommate? Yes, okay, you know, Joe Scott, what is
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: going on? You're in the military, have been in the military,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: don't they ask? Surveillance at the security guard where you
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: have to go in and out? That's another thing. They
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: faced it to me that there's no cameras there. Well,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: I got the answer to that. Is there anything else
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: you can remember Myra that they may have said to you?
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: The last update that I got was on Sunday. That's
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: the words in the search right there in the base
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: with search dogs and whatnot. After that, I haven't heard
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: what the hour as in this past Sunday. Okay, so
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: that was this past Sunday. Have you asked what happened? No?
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: The last time I went into that base, it was
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: once again too good questions, more questions and more questions. Well,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: she answered the question, do you, Joe Scott Morgan, there's
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: not surveillance at the security guard post going in and out.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: I find that very, very difficult to believe, but that's
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: what they told us. Sister. The tip line two five
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: four four nine five seven seven six seven repeat two
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: five four four nine, five seven seven six seven. We
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: wait as justice unfolds Nancy Grace crime story, signing off
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: goodbye friend,