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Sharri | 25 March · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Why.
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Speaker 2: On Sky News This is.
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Speaker 1: Sharry Good Evening tonight. Over five hundred petrol stations are
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Speaker 1: out of fuel. The crisis is spiraling out of control.
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Speaker 1: Pauline Hansen calls for rationing, while Chris Bowen insists there's
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Speaker 1: no problem. We'll show you which state is at risk
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Speaker 1: of running dry and mikaylay Cash will be on the
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Speaker 1: show after a labor minister accused her of a sexist
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Speaker 1: word hysterical for demanding answers on the fuel crisis. In
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Speaker 1: breaking news tonight, the Albanezy government has banned Iranian visa
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Speaker 1: holders from visiting Australia. Our Sky News defense analyst Peter
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Speaker 1: Jennings will give us all the details, and just a
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Speaker 1: few hours into the ABC strike, they've popped down to
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Speaker 1: the pub for a bit of day drinking on the
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Speaker 1: taxpayer dime. Of course, we'll talk about this shortly, but
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Speaker 1: first drivers could have a limit on how much fuel
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Speaker 1: they're able to use under measures being considered by national Cabinet.
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Speaker 1: There are more than five hundred petrol stations with no
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Speaker 1: fuel across the country, yet the Alberteze government continues to
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Speaker 1: insist there's enough supply.
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Speaker 3: It's clearly at the moment not a supply issue in Australia.
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Speaker 4: There is not less supply.
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Speaker 5: This is an issue has been an issue of increased demand.
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Speaker 6: We have more fuel in Australia circulating in the economy
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Speaker 6: at the moment, yes, than we did before the conflict.
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Speaker 1: Was Again, they need to wake up and take control
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Speaker 1: of what's unfolding. Because here's the latest state by state
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Speaker 1: list of service stations that have run dry of at
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Speaker 1: least one type of fuel. Two hundred and nineteen in
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Speaker 1: New South Wales, one hundred and thirty four in Victoria,
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Speaker 1: ninety in Queensland, forty nine in South Australia and ten
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Speaker 1: in Wa and we're being warned the nation's fuel supplies
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Speaker 1: could be critical by the end of April. This problem
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Speaker 1: is exacerbated by the fact that China has paused expots.
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Speaker 1: Asian refineries will reportedly exhaust their supplies of crude oil
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Speaker 1: in the next few weeks. So why is the Albanese
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Speaker 1: government in denial as they clearly are. I mean, it's
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Speaker 1: getting to the point where they're misleading the nation about
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Speaker 1: what's unfolding. Here was Minister Clara O'Neil today claiming that
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Speaker 1: Australia just has plenty of supply.
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Speaker 6: We have more fuel in Australia circulating in the economy
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Speaker 6: at the moment, yes, than we did before the conflict
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Speaker 6: begin Where.
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Speaker 7: Is it, Claire even I'm confused by that response.
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Speaker 8: Where is it?
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Speaker 6: The issue that we're having is that in certain parts
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Speaker 6: of the country demand has spiked, you know, up to threefold. Basically,
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Speaker 6: there are parts of the country which are consuming three
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Speaker 6: times as much petrol as would normally occur. Now, any
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Speaker 6: supply chain in the country, it doesn't matter what good
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Speaker 6: or product we're talking about. If you see effectively overnight
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Speaker 6: a threefold increase in demand, the supply chain, that is
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Speaker 6: how that fuel is circulating around the economy, is going
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Speaker 6: to experience issues.
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Speaker 8: That is the biggest load of crap I have ever heard.
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Speaker 7: Claire has just admitted on National TV that there is
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Speaker 7: so much fuel sloshing around in this country they don't
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Speaker 7: know what to do with it. You have just admitted
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Speaker 7: on National TV there is not a supply problem, but
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Speaker 7: bowsers are dry. There's one hundred and sixty six in
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Speaker 7: this country that are dry. You can get tankers today
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Speaker 7: to those one hundred and sixty six stations. Stop making excuses.
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Speaker 1: Well, Clara O'Neil then accused Michaulia Cash of get personal
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Speaker 1: and hysterical.
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Speaker 6: Let's do each other the courtesy of not twisting each
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Speaker 6: other's words. What we need to do is manage this
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Speaker 6: calmly and methodically, not get personal and hysterical.
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Speaker 1: Well, imagine if a man accused Clara O'Neill of becoming hysterical.
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Speaker 1: It's a very gendered word. Hysteria was believed to be
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Speaker 1: a condition that women suffered even in the nineteenth century.
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Speaker 1: Freud studied hysteria and associated it with women's emotional instability.
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Speaker 1: Pretty inappropriate. I would have thought for her to be
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Speaker 1: throwing that at a woman at the shadow at Tony General,
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Speaker 1: no less. But Clara O'Neil couldn't argue with what Cash
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Speaker 1: was saying, so she resorted to sexist, female oriented insults
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Speaker 1: and mikaylay Cash will be here in a moment, and
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Speaker 1: I'll ask her about this and the fuel crisis, because
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Speaker 1: it wasn't just Clara O'Neill hiding away from the crisis.
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Speaker 1: In question time, Chris Bowen kept on with the same
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Speaker 1: old lines about no supply issues, just demand.
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Speaker 3: The ships continue to arrive and that the refiner has
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Speaker 3: continued to work full pelt for Australians. As we have
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Speaker 3: said from the very beginning, that does not mean there
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Speaker 3: aren't real shortages in rural Australia in particular, and that
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Speaker 3: the supply chain has struggled when demand doubl and that
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Speaker 3: that has always been the case.
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Speaker 1: So this has been his line all week, and it
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Speaker 1: was just three days ago when Bowen claimed there was
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Speaker 1: no issue and only six ships had been missed.
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Speaker 3: We get on average around eighty one boats a month
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Speaker 3: delivering fuel to Australia.
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Speaker 9: We're aware of.
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Speaker 3: Six boats that have been canceled out of that eighty
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Speaker 3: one on average.
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Speaker 1: And yet as we sit here this evening, five hundred
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Speaker 1: service stations around the country are out of at least
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Speaker 1: one type of fuel. When was premier, Chris has been
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Speaker 1: far more upfront with drivers, certainly more upfront than the
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Speaker 1: Albanezy government. He's not standing there insisting there's enough supply.
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Speaker 1: Chris Mens revealed today that the National Cabinet had discussed
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Speaker 1: a national approach to things like fuel rationing.
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Speaker 10: We had a National Cabinet meeting that the Prime Minister convened.
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Speaker 10: I thought that was a good opportunity to get on
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Speaker 10: the same page, there was a willingness from the States
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Speaker 10: to say to the Commonwealth, Look, we need to make
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Speaker 10: sure that if they're going to be demand management measures
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Speaker 10: that are put in place, they need to be done
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Speaker 10: on a national level. So their credit, the Commonwealth has
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Speaker 10: accepted that. I'm confident that it will be a national approach.
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Speaker 1: And while the federal government refuses to acknowledge the extent
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Speaker 1: of the crisis, Chris Mens is now opening an emergency
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Speaker 1: operations Center.
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Speaker 10: Its express purpose is to understand in detail where there
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Speaker 10: are shortages in the construction, agriculture and mining sector and
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Speaker 10: have a better understanding of what their fuel needs will
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Speaker 10: be in the weeks ahead.
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Speaker 1: I mean this is the difference between genuine leadership and
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Speaker 1: the farcical denials that we keep seeing from alban Easy
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Speaker 1: and Boeen. The Daily Telegraph published on its front page
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Speaker 1: today the details of the emergency fuel Plan that was
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Speaker 1: drawn up in twenty nineteen by the Department of Environment
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Speaker 1: and Energy, and the plan includes extreme measures of high
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Speaker 1: prices to curb demand, warning businesses that supply could be
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Speaker 1: cut in half, advising drivers to switch off their air con,
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Speaker 1: and most alarmingly, daily transaction limits that would be set
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Speaker 1: by the Minister, and these limits could be as low
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Speaker 1: as forty dollars, meaning the average driver would be able
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Speaker 1: to get just sixteen leaders of fuel at the current
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Speaker 1: priceis But again, and we spoke about this a week ago,
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Speaker 1: but look at how Australia compares with us other countries
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Speaker 1: around the world when it comes to the number of
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Speaker 1: days a fuel supply that we have. Have a look
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Speaker 1: at the graph. We are right at the bottom. We
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Speaker 1: have less fuel than fifty other comparable countries. Now, the
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Speaker 1: international recommendation is to have at least ninety days of
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Speaker 1: supply and Australia only has around thirty. And currently it
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Speaker 1: seems we have less given there are already stations running
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Speaker 1: out of diesel and other fuels. Now this doesn't only
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Speaker 1: affect drivers, it has flow and effects for the entire
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Speaker 1: supply chain. It's something Barnaby Joyce spoke about it his
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Speaker 1: and Pauline's press conference today. While Australia's supply issues and
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Speaker 1: fuel pathways are catastrophic, it does look like the war
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Speaker 1: is on the way to ending. President Trump has given
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Speaker 1: a run a fifteen point plan to end the war. Now.
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Speaker 1: These points include dismantling their nuclear capabilities, handing over their
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Speaker 1: stockpile of enriched uranium, no longer funding, directing or arming
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Speaker 1: their regional proxies, reducing the range and quantity of their
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Speaker 1: missiles and using them for self defense only, and importantly
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Speaker 1: keeping the Strait of hor Moves open. Now, Iran is
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Speaker 1: unlikely to agree to these demands. Iranian military spokesman Ebrahim
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Speaker 1: zolf Kari allegedly, well, he's already mocked Trump when he
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Speaker 1: spoke publicly today. Have a look, hetam, you are fired.
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Speaker 2: You are familiar with this sentence. Thank you for your
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Speaker 2: attention to this matter.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's not going to go down well with the President,
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Speaker 1: nor should it. Ran already knows the global disruptive impact
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Speaker 1: it's having by blocking the Strait of hor Moves. They
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Speaker 1: can't win the battlefield, but they can block the oil.
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Speaker 1: This is why Iran can never be allowed to have
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Speaker 1: nuclear weapons. It would have no hesitation in using them
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Speaker 1: against its enemies, which include US in Australia. Iran has
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Speaker 1: been the biggest state sponsor of terrorism, the biggest exporder
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Speaker 1: of terrorism globally. This isn't a remote issue that has
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Speaker 1: no impact on us. It's in our backyard, as you know.
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Speaker 1: Iran has orchestrated several terror attacks in Australia over the
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Speaker 1: past two years. It's why dismantling their terror network, destroying
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Speaker 1: their weapons and removing their leaders is necessary, is vital
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Speaker 1: for peace and security here all right, and joining me
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Speaker 1: now live from Canberray's Shadow Attorney General, Mikaalia Cash. Mikalia,
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Speaker 1: great to see you again. To get into the fuel crisis,
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Speaker 1: which is the biggest issue in just a minute, But
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Speaker 1: first I want to get a quick response from you
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Speaker 1: about that word hysterical that the Housing Minister Clara O'Neill
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Speaker 1: threw at you. Let's have a look at her comments again.
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Speaker 6: What we need to do is manage this calmly and methodically,
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Speaker 6: not get personal and hysterical.
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Speaker 1: As I already explained, this is historically a gendered insult.
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Speaker 1: It is sexist. Was it appropriate?
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Speaker 7: Well, the only person Shari getting personal there was, sadly
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Speaker 7: Minister Claire O'Neal. Why because you see, you only get
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Speaker 7: personal when you have no answers or explanations for why
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Speaker 7: you have lost control of the fuel crisis. Claire O'Neill
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Speaker 7: was trying to shut me down with an insult. Well,
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Speaker 7: guess what I've got news for Claire O'Neal. The Coalition
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Speaker 7: will not be shut down from demanding accountability on behalf
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Speaker 7: of the Australian people for why they are turning up
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Speaker 7: to bowsers and they are dry. I mean shari That
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Speaker 7: admission by Claire O'Neil this morning on National TV that
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Speaker 7: there is and I quote more fuel in Australia circulating
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Speaker 7: in the economy or circulating around Australia now than prior
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Speaker 7: to when the before the war began was actually extraordinary,
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Speaker 7: So there's not a supply problem. The problem therefore is
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Speaker 7: solely with the Albernezi government. They know where the fuel
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Speaker 7: is in Australia at any given point in time. What
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Speaker 7: they are failing to do is get that fuel to
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Speaker 7: where it's needed the bowsers that have run dry. But
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Speaker 7: Claire can insult me all she likes. I won't stop
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Speaker 7: holding this government accountable.
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Speaker 1: And it seems like the premiers around they are begging
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Speaker 1: for some sort of national approach, national leadership here, when
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Speaker 1: there basically is none. You know, as we've been saying,
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Speaker 1: there's five hundred service stations around the country that have
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Speaker 1: a supply issue. Do you think Chris Bowen should now
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Speaker 1: be rationing petrol.
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Speaker 7: God bless Chris Bowen. Total failure. But let's put that aside.
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Speaker 7: He's now ruling things out. Can I tell you, Shari,
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Speaker 7: what the Australian people want to know is, Chris, what
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Speaker 7: in God's name is on the table? You're telling us
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Speaker 7: what's not on the table, but what is on the table.
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Speaker 7: They are now heading into almost the fourth week of
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Speaker 7: this crisis. First they are in denial, Shari. Then they
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Speaker 7: blame the Australian people for their lack of confidence and
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Speaker 7: maybe filling up one too many times. And now they're
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Speaker 7: scrambling for answers because they have had their heads in
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Speaker 7: the said, there is clearly a logistics problem in this country.
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Speaker 7: Claire O'Neill has stated, and Bowen hasn't denied this. There
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Speaker 7: is more fuel today in Australia than what there was
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Speaker 7: before the crisis. So Chris, bring in the logistics expert,
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Speaker 7: get out of.
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Speaker 8: The Canberra brubble.
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Speaker 7: Stop listening to bureaucrats because clearly they're not giving you
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Speaker 7: the answers you need. Bring in the logistics expert. You've
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Speaker 7: got the evidence, you know where the fuel is. Get
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Speaker 7: the fuel to where it's needed. The bowsers that have
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Speaker 7: run dry.
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Speaker 1: In the meantime. Though, if they are saying this is
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Speaker 1: a demand issue, that there's panic buying, do you think
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Speaker 1: there is a case for rationing fuel?
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Speaker 7: Why are they blaming the Australian people who have clearly
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Speaker 7: lost confidence in this government. If this government hadn't have
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Speaker 7: put its head in the sand, as I said, we're
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Speaker 7: almost going to be heading into the fourth week of
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Speaker 7: this crisis, and had actually put in place solutions on
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Speaker 7: day one, Australians wouldn't need to get that extra tank
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Speaker 7: of fuel. As I said, let's not talk about what
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Speaker 7: Chris Bowen's taking off the table. Let's talk about what
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Speaker 7: should be on the table.
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Speaker 8: Should the data should.
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Speaker 1: Be rationing fuel. I mean, that's what Pauline Hansen has
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Speaker 1: said is needed. She said that today.
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Speaker 8: Why it so well?
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Speaker 7: The question I'd put to paul Aine is this, why
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Speaker 7: do you need to ration fuel when the government has
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Speaker 7: openly admitted there is more fuel in Australia circulating now
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Speaker 7: than there was before the crisis.
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Speaker 8: The issue is not rationing fuel.
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Speaker 7: The issue is this government's failure to manage the crisis
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Speaker 7: and to ensure that the supply that is there, the
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Speaker 7: fuel is there. The government's admitted more fuel today than
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Speaker 7: there was before the crisis is actually getting to where
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Speaker 7: it needs to be. There's a logistics problem in this
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Speaker 7: country and Chris Bowen and Anthey now BENEZI listen to
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Speaker 7: some logistic experts and get the fuel to where it's needed.
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Speaker 7: Because as you keep telling Australians, the supply of fuel
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Speaker 7: is there.
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Speaker 1: Do you think there's shows we rely too much on
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Speaker 1: imported fuel?
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Speaker 11: Oh?
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Speaker 7: I think we've got to have a very serious question
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Speaker 7: in Australian and Angus Taylor, you know, save the last
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Speaker 7: two refineries from going out of business. Yes, we absolutely
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Speaker 7: have to look at sovereign capability and on shore capability.
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Speaker 7: I come from Western Australia. It's a disaster there at
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Speaker 7: the moment, Shari, because of this government's failure to ensure
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Speaker 7: the fuel that is in the country is getting to
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Speaker 7: where it is needed. So absolutely yes, and that is
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Speaker 7: why Angus Taylor has passed Andrew Hasty with the portfolio
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Speaker 7: of sovereign capability. If COVID taught us anything, we need
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Speaker 7: more sovereign capability in this country. And I can tell
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Speaker 7: you as a Western Australian I know that firsthand because
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Speaker 7: of the impact that this government's failure is now having,
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Speaker 7: in particular on our farmers.
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Speaker 1: This feel crisis is sparked by Iran attacking ships in
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Speaker 1: the Strait of hor Moos. Trump is now saying it's
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Speaker 1: time for the war to end, and he's given reportedly
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Speaker 1: a list of fifteen demands to Iran. Are you worried
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Speaker 1: that Tehran won't agree to the conditions, which do include
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Speaker 1: freedom of navigation in the Strait of hor moves? And
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Speaker 1: do you also think that it is time for the
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Speaker 1: war to end, that the objectives have been achieved.
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Speaker 7: Everybody wants this war to end as quickly as possible.
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Speaker 7: We all understood very clearly the objective of this war
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Speaker 7: to ensure that Iran's nuclear capability was ended once and
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Speaker 7: fra all, but not only that, to give the Iranian
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Speaker 7: people their chance at freedom, freedom from the terror man,
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Speaker 7: the Ayah Toller, who for decades had slaughtered thousands of
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Speaker 7: his people. I mean in twenty nineteen, you might recall,
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Speaker 7: I mean Scott Morrison.
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Speaker 8: At that point in time.
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Speaker 7: We actually deployed and we were part of an international
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Speaker 7: mission to ensure that the Strait of Homus was protected.
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Speaker 8: Why, because we understood the.
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Speaker 7: Importance of the Strait to our national sovereignty and our
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Speaker 7: national interests. So yes, we all want this war to
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Speaker 7: end as quickly as possible. But let's be very very.
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Speaker 8: Clear, we know why this war was begun.
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Speaker 7: We stand by our allies, the United States and Israel
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Speaker 7: in relation to what they are seeking to achieve, but
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Speaker 7: at the same time, we need to ensure those straits
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Speaker 7: are protected because Australia is currently experiencing.
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Speaker 8: What happens when they're not. But more than that, a government.
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Speaker 7: Fails to ensure they have contingency plans in place just
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Speaker 7: very quickly.
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Speaker 1: I mean you mentioned Scott Morrison. I had him on
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Speaker 1: the show last night and he indicated he would have
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Speaker 1: given the US and Israel better support than the Albanese
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Speaker 1: government has. He also said he was gobsmacked that Australian
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Speaker 1: sub mariners had been told to stand down during an
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Speaker 1: attack on an Iranian warship. Do you agree with what
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Speaker 1: he had to say?
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Speaker 7: Well, as I said, Scott Morrison does speak from a
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Speaker 7: position of someone who's been in government and actually has
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Speaker 7: sent and supported an international mission to protect Australia from was.
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Speaker 7: What I would say is this the coalition is very clear,
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Speaker 7: we must ensure our citizens are protected and our national
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Speaker 7: interests are protected. We have said that we support the
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Speaker 7: government's decision to send a wedgetaile surveillance aircraft to the region.
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Speaker 8: We support that.
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Speaker 7: But what we have also said that is in relation
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Speaker 7: to any provision of naval fleet. That is obviously a
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Speaker 7: decision for Australia. It's also a decision for the Albernese
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Speaker 7: government based on the intelligence that they have. But at
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Speaker 7: all times we must act in the best interests of
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Speaker 7: the Australian people and protecting our national interests.
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Speaker 1: All right, mckaty cash, you appreciate your time. Thank you.
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Speaker 8: Great to be with you.
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Speaker 1: While the fuel crisis is unfolding. I mean families can't
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Speaker 1: even afford basic items even before this. Well, ABC's staff
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Speaker 1: are only worried about themselves. They've been offered a ten
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Speaker 1: percent pay rise, even a thousand dollars cash bonus, but
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Speaker 1: this isn't enough to stop thousands of ABC's staff from
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Speaker 1: walking off the job today.
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Speaker 11: There's people on my team who live in Woollongong because
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Speaker 11: they can't afford to live in Sydney, or who live
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Speaker 11: in Newcastle because they can't afford to live in Sydney.
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Speaker 11: There's people on my team who've been on the same
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Speaker 11: pay level for five years, for eight years and have
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Speaker 11: been told they won't get a promotion this time around.
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Speaker 1: I mean, a ten percent eyes is far more generous
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Speaker 1: than most Australian employees, particularly in this climate. Now, the
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Speaker 1: twenty four hour strike has taken most ABC programs off air.
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Speaker 1: We might even have some new viewers tonight. It's going
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Speaker 1: to last until eleven o'clock tomorrow, and it's been addressed
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Speaker 1: on air by some presenters.
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Speaker 5: Like many of our viewers, a lot of ABC staff
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Speaker 5: as struggling to keep up with the rising cost of
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Speaker 5: living and we're asking for a pay rise that will
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Speaker 5: help keep our heads above water. We're also asking ABC
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Speaker 5: management to deliver secure, safe and sustainable jobs so we
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Speaker 5: can keep delivering the news and content our audience deserve.
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Speaker 1: And on that note, let's bring in tonight's panel form
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Speaker 1: of Victorian, the We're Party President Michael Kroger and Sky
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Speaker 1: News host Joe Hildebrand. I mean, Michael, there was an
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Speaker 1: exclusive on the Sky News website this afternoon that revealed
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Speaker 1: the ABC staff. Some ABC staff were even spotted day
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Speaker 1: drinking today. They've got the photographs. I mean, this is
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Speaker 1: very so indulgent on the taxpayer dime. Michael, Well, I
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Speaker 1: just look.
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Speaker 9: At the ABC and your report from last year on
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Speaker 9: page one hundred and seventy one and the annual age.
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Speaker 9: The annual wages bill at the ABC is six hundred
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Speaker 9: and nineteen million dollars. There are, according to the website,
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Speaker 9: four thousand, six hundred and twenty four employees at the ABC.
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Speaker 9: So I divided the wages bill by the number of employees.
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Speaker 9: And just to get this right, the average wage at
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Speaker 9: the ABC is one hundred and thirty three thousand, nine
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Speaker 9: hundred and seventy eight dollars and thirty seven cents. The
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Speaker 9: average wage for someone in Australia full time wages about
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Speaker 9: ninety thousand. The ABC staff are all on one hundred
22:43
Speaker 9: and thirty three thousand. They're getting paid forty percent more
22:48
Speaker 9: than average Australians and the ABC staff are paid. They're
22:54
Speaker 9: paid more than ninety five percent of the nurses, teachers,
22:58
Speaker 9: policemen and firefighters in this country. Hello ABC, Hello, I
23:09
Speaker 9: mean Joe.
23:10
Speaker 1: The point Michael makes is good. They're already well paid
23:13
Speaker 1: and they've been offered ten percent over three years plus
23:16
Speaker 1: one thousand dollars bonus. I mean, in this climate, most
23:20
Speaker 1: workers aren't getting any sort of pay rise like that.
23:24
Speaker 1: The ABC staff do not have a good reputation as
23:27
Speaker 1: it is. This is only going to make it worse.
23:29
Speaker 12: Yeah. I remember being the chair of the House Committee
23:32
Speaker 12: at Australian Associated Press and we were very happy when
23:35
Speaker 12: we got ten percent over three years. My failed negotiating
23:40
Speaker 12: skills could only deliver that. But I think I think
23:46
Speaker 12: it's just a terrible look. I mean, I'm never usually,
23:48
Speaker 12: I mean, I'm never going to get between a worker
23:50
Speaker 12: and a pay rise, and we are in a cost
23:52
Speaker 12: of living crisis. But I think what is particularly nauseating
23:55
Speaker 12: is when you have people in the rest of the
23:57
Speaker 12: media who are staring down and existential threat too often
24:02
Speaker 12: to their to their their mastheads, or their their vehicles,
24:06
Speaker 12: or their websites or whatever it may be. We know
24:08
Speaker 12: that plenty of already closed, God willing it won't be
24:10
Speaker 12: one of mine. And also, I mean I haven't I
24:13
Speaker 12: certainly haven't had the would never ask for pay rights
24:15
Speaker 12: in the current environment. I'm just incredibly grateful to have
24:18
Speaker 12: had a job, and I think I've been getting the
24:20
Speaker 12: same amount ever since. I started so so for them.
24:24
Speaker 1: To be windy started Joe, I have to pull you
24:28
Speaker 1: up on that. I mean you and I we had
24:29
Speaker 1: our desks next to each other.
24:31
Speaker 12: We did twenty we did yet.
24:33
Speaker 1: Twenty years ago at State Parliament we did so.
24:36
Speaker 2: Yes.
24:36
Speaker 12: Since becoming a being a freelancer and spreading my wares
24:41
Speaker 12: across the beautiful, wonderful News Corp world have I've certainly
24:45
Speaker 12: never asked for anything more, and I think it would
24:47
Speaker 12: be pretty stupid to do so in the current environment.
24:50
Speaker 1: Agreed. Well, let's return to the fuel crisis now, and
24:53
Speaker 1: as we've been talking about, despite the government's denials, Chris
24:56
Speaker 1: Bond's denials, it does appear to be getting worse. Michael
24:59
Speaker 1: Bay April. We don't even know how many service stations
25:02
Speaker 1: will have fuel, and not to mention then the impact
25:06
Speaker 1: on farmers and fruit and vegetables and products in the supermarket.
25:12
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, most of these go out to the farmers
25:14
Speaker 9: in particular, who are in many cases about to start
25:17
Speaker 9: cropping and they're not going to have diesel. So look,
25:22
Speaker 9: the problem is, we know what the problem is or
25:24
Speaker 9: in the Middle East. Fuel supplies in Asia will diminish
25:30
Speaker 9: very quickly. We don't have sufficient reserves here. And you know,
25:36
Speaker 9: in terms of national crisis, you need a minister that
25:39
Speaker 9: can build the confidence and hold the consonants of the nation.
25:43
Speaker 9: And unfortunately in Chris Bow and we've got probably the
25:46
Speaker 9: worst minister this century in Australia in terms of his
25:49
Speaker 9: record of failure. So no one has confidence in Chris
25:51
Speaker 9: bow and that's that's why people just ignore what he
25:54
Speaker 9: says and they go and hoard and they steal whatever
25:56
Speaker 9: else because no one has any confidence in him, and
25:58
Speaker 9: it it's one of the reasons we have this problem
26:01
Speaker 9: today and.
26:02
Speaker 1: Joe clearly the premiers are getting a bit frustrated as
26:05
Speaker 1: well because there is no national leadership.
26:09
Speaker 2: Yeah.
26:09
Speaker 12: I think it also marks just a different style between say,
26:13
Speaker 12: for example, Chris Mins and Anthony Albanesian. We've seen it
26:15
Speaker 12: in the past. Chrismins is very quick to get ahead
26:19
Speaker 12: of a problem, to get ahead of a crisis, to
26:22
Speaker 12: make sure that there is a contingency plan to deal
26:26
Speaker 12: with it in the event of a worst case scenario.
26:29
Speaker 12: And Albo and his government is much more likely to
26:32
Speaker 12: try to calm people down, say it's all right, everything's
26:35
Speaker 12: going to be fine. And the risk there, of course
26:37
Speaker 12: is that if everything is not fine, then you have
26:40
Speaker 12: a failed to manage expectations and so people get something
26:44
Speaker 12: that's much worse than they were preparing for. And that's
26:46
Speaker 12: where you know, that's where crisis really hurt political parties,
26:50
Speaker 12: when it's not when it's bad, but when it's worse
26:53
Speaker 12: than people think, worse than they were ready for. And
26:56
Speaker 12: so we do want to make sure that people stay calm.
26:58
Speaker 12: And whenever I read something saying, oh, it's not going
26:59
Speaker 12: to be that, I go thank God, because it's.
27:01
Speaker 2: Hurting all of us.
27:02
Speaker 12: But I think it's almost always better. And you can
27:07
Speaker 12: see Jim Chalmers and that's a weird thing that the
27:09
Speaker 12: government is kind of a bit at six's and seven's
27:11
Speaker 12: on this, Like Jim Charmers has come out and said, no,
27:14
Speaker 12: this actually could be really, really really bad, and then
27:17
Speaker 12: presumably when it's not as bad as he said, you'll say, well,
27:20
Speaker 12: that was thanks to my incredibly great economic stewardship. And
27:24
Speaker 12: so I think you want to sort of make sure
27:25
Speaker 12: that you don't lull people into a false sense of security,
27:28
Speaker 12: don't create panic, but make sure that people aren't going
27:30
Speaker 12: to think that everything's going to be fine, because chances
27:33
Speaker 12: are it's not.
27:35
Speaker 1: Michael, I know you've been following the one run very closely.
27:40
Speaker 1: What do you think of the reports about Trump's fifteen
27:43
Speaker 1: point plan, particularly when it Irun's not going to accept it.
27:47
Speaker 1: I mean, it has made it clear it is not
27:49
Speaker 1: going to accept it. So how does this end without
27:52
Speaker 1: any sort of commitment not to rebuild nuclear weapons At
27:57
Speaker 1: the very least.
28:00
Speaker 9: He's sort of thing's happening. In May last year, Trump
28:03
Speaker 9: was involved in settling the war between India and Pakistan.
28:06
Speaker 9: He came across Assimmana, who was the head of the army.
28:10
Speaker 9: He was General Manir at the time. Trump was so
28:13
Speaker 9: friendly and happy with this guy. They got on so
28:15
Speaker 9: well he invited him to the White House for lunch
28:17
Speaker 9: in June last year. He's now been promoted to Phil
28:20
Speaker 9: Marshall and Manir now runs the Army, the Navy, and
28:23
Speaker 9: the air Force. He runs Pakistan because those that understand
28:25
Speaker 9: their Pakistani history will know that the military basically runs
28:28
Speaker 9: that country. So Manir is friendly, very friendly personally with Trump.
28:33
Speaker 9: And the other side of the coin is Pakistan and
28:36
Speaker 9: Irana very friendly. Don't forget they share a long common
28:40
Speaker 9: border to the south of Afghanistan. They've had close relationships.
28:44
Speaker 2: Over the years.
28:45
Speaker 9: Manir will know senior people in Iran, and I mean
28:50
Speaker 9: no doubt whatsoever. Manir is the person that is passing
28:54
Speaker 9: messages to whoever he knows in the Iranian regime, and
28:59
Speaker 9: one way the other they'll find a way. This will
29:02
Speaker 9: have to be resolved one way or the other. But
29:05
Speaker 9: this is part of Trump's special skill. He makes a
29:09
Speaker 9: close friend with this Guymnir, who later on gets promoted
29:13
Speaker 9: to basically run Pakistan, and lo and behold, we're a
29:16
Speaker 9: situation where Manir is now the most important person in
29:19
Speaker 9: these negotiations. I've no doubt these negotiations are taking place.
29:23
Speaker 9: The problem in Iran is the leaders who are left
29:26
Speaker 9: them can't meet, they can't talk on the phone, they
29:30
Speaker 9: can't use the internet. So of course half of them
29:32
Speaker 9: have got no idea what the other half are doing.
29:35
Speaker 9: And that's why you'll have these people coming out saying
29:36
Speaker 9: we don't know anying about these negotiations, but I bet
29:39
Speaker 9: they're taking place.
29:41
Speaker 1: They're certainly taking place. And Whickcof's going to travel to
29:44
Speaker 1: Pakistan reportedly this week. Yeah, absolutely, Michael Kroger, jo, who'd
29:49
Speaker 1: bran great to see you as always in a Wednesday.
29:53
Speaker 1: Now still to come, we'll get more on the fuel crisis.
29:55
Speaker 1: Why won't the government act? Plus Iranians bound from traveling Australia.
30:00
Speaker 1: More on this breaking story after the break.
30:07
Speaker 2: Well.
30:08
Speaker 1: In breaking news tonight, the Department of Home Affairs will
30:11
Speaker 1: temporarily ban Iranian visitors from mentoring Australia. Home Affairs Minister
30:16
Speaker 1: Tony Burke has said the conflict in Iran has increased
30:19
Speaker 1: the risk that some temporary visa holders may be unable
30:23
Speaker 1: or unlikely to depart Australia when their visas expire. This's
30:28
Speaker 1: a big story and joining me now to discuss is
30:30
Speaker 1: Sky News Defense analyst Peter Jennings. Peter, great to see you,
30:34
Speaker 1: so tell us about this temporary ban from Iranian visitors.
30:38
Speaker 1: Very unusual in Australia to have something like this. Explain
30:42
Speaker 1: to us how it will work and what's the thinking
30:45
Speaker 1: behind it.
30:48
Speaker 13: It's the curious one, Cherry, and I wonder if we're
30:51
Speaker 13: not actually seeing an instance of the Australian government learning
30:55
Speaker 13: a lesson from something it shouldn't have done several years ago,
30:58
Speaker 13: which was to issue without appropriate checks, three thousand visas
31:03
Speaker 13: to people coming out of GASA. I think what we
31:07
Speaker 13: have here is a government that's more cautious. I've read
31:10
Speaker 13: this evening that there's over seven thousand of these visas
31:13
Speaker 13: which already exist, and it may well be that there
31:16
Speaker 13: are people inside that category which the government feels they
31:20
Speaker 13: would not wish to have to deal as permanent, long
31:23
Speaker 13: term refugee applications depending on the direction of the war
31:29
Speaker 13: over the next few weeks. So it's a cautious move,
31:33
Speaker 13: but I think they probably made the right.
31:35
Speaker 2: Call on this one.
31:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, surprising, that's for sure. So we've been speaking about
31:40
Speaker 1: the war. President Trump spoke about wanting to end the
31:43
Speaker 1: war again today, but he made this unusual comment that
31:46
Speaker 1: I noticed. He said that his Secretary of War, Pete Hegsatt,
31:49
Speaker 1: wanted to keep fighting. Have a look, the things are
31:54
Speaker 1: going to be settled very soon. Here they go, Oh,
31:57
Speaker 1: that's still bad. He didn't want it to be settled.
32:02
Speaker 8: We're keeping our hand on that throttle as long as
32:05
Speaker 8: as hard as is necessary to ensure the interest of
32:08
Speaker 8: the United States of America are achieved on that battlefield.
32:13
Speaker 1: So that's interesting that Trump has publicly revealed there is
32:18
Speaker 1: dissent or disagreement with his secretary of war, who doesn't
32:22
Speaker 1: think they should end and wants to keep fighting. How
32:24
Speaker 1: do you interpret those public comments.
32:29
Speaker 13: Well, I think Trump was doing what he always does,
32:31
Speaker 13: which was riffing in front of the microphone, and you
32:35
Speaker 13: kind of you get what you get when he says
32:38
Speaker 13: these things.
32:38
Speaker 1: It would be true something.
32:40
Speaker 2: It would be the first term.
32:41
Speaker 1: It would be true though.
32:42
Speaker 13: What he says well true in the sense that Hegseth.
32:45
Speaker 13: Hegseth has been always the big man, talking tough about
32:49
Speaker 13: the conflict. And you know, we know from Trump's first
32:52
Speaker 13: term no one survives in the cabinet for very long.
32:56
Speaker 13: So I don't see this as being a significant split
32:59
Speaker 13: between the I mean, the military campaign continues. Trump is
33:03
Speaker 13: commander in chief, is the person who's responsible for that happening.
33:07
Speaker 13: But I guess he is pointing to the fact that
33:08
Speaker 13: heg Seth has been, you know, probably the most hawkish
33:12
Speaker 13: of all of the Trump cabinet in terms of talking
33:15
Speaker 13: about what they're doing, and Trump kind of reflected a
33:18
Speaker 13: little on that in his comments.
33:19
Speaker 1: I suppose I'm more interested in it from the perspective
33:23
Speaker 1: of is there an argument that the objectives haven't been met?
33:27
Speaker 1: Is that why Hegseth thinks the war needs to keep
33:30
Speaker 1: going on, and just I mean this isn't relevant to
33:33
Speaker 1: this point, but just a side note. I mean, in
33:34
Speaker 1: his second administration, he hasn't lost that many people. It
33:39
Speaker 1: has been quite a stable team, one or two exceptions,
33:42
Speaker 1: of course, But anyway, my broader point was, maybe, you know,
33:46
Speaker 1: it does cast doubt on whether the war objectives have
33:49
Speaker 1: been met. If his war secretary thinks they need to
33:52
Speaker 1: keep fighting, well.
33:56
Speaker 13: The war's objectives haven't been met. Iran continues to fire
34:00
Speaker 13: a significant number of missiles and drones into the region
34:04
Speaker 13: at American bases and at other targets. In fact, in
34:07
Speaker 13: the weekend just past Shari that number grew quite significantly
34:11
Speaker 13: compared to what we've seen since the early days of March.
34:15
Speaker 13: So the Revolutionary Guard still has the capacity to control
34:18
Speaker 13: these weapons, to find targets, to send the weapons against
34:21
Speaker 13: those targets, and they've demonstrated, of course that they are
34:25
Speaker 13: now controlling the straight offormas very effectively. So there's a
34:29
Speaker 13: number of factors there which make it impossible to say
34:32
Speaker 13: that the war subjectives have been achieved. And indeed, for
34:36
Speaker 13: as long as the Iranian regime remains in place, there
34:41
Speaker 13: is always the possibility that those concerns the nuclear weapons,
34:45
Speaker 13: the missiles, the drones, the manufacturing capability, the sponsorship of terrorism.
34:51
Speaker 13: There's always a possibility that that could come back. So
34:55
Speaker 13: I'm kind of with Heseth in making the point that
35:00
Speaker 13: it's too early to declare mission accomplished. But put aside
35:06
Speaker 13: what he says by his actions, by the fact that
35:08
Speaker 13: the Americans are continuing military operations, that tells me that
35:11
Speaker 13: they know that and they're still going after those targets.
35:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, the US is also deploying thousands of soldiers from
35:19
Speaker 1: the Army's elite eighty second Airborne Division, So these soldiers
35:24
Speaker 1: specialize in parachute assaults. Kind of fascinating. What could possibly
35:29
Speaker 1: be the purpose of this, Peter.
35:34
Speaker 13: My view here is that I think they're looking at
35:36
Speaker 13: a number of the islands which dot the top of
35:40
Speaker 13: the Straits of hell Moerves, a little off the Iranian coast.
35:44
Speaker 13: If you're going to by eurom in the United States,
35:48
Speaker 13: if you're going to control the Strait of holl Moves,
35:51
Speaker 13: you need to get troops onto those islands to do
35:53
Speaker 13: things like stop the drone operators, stop the fast attack boats.
35:58
Speaker 13: And these are precisely the tree you'd use for that purpose.
36:02
Speaker 13: Not just the eighty second Airborn, but also the two
36:06
Speaker 13: expeditionary groups of Marines which are in the theater right now.
36:11
Speaker 13: So the American military is doing what they always do,
36:15
Speaker 13: which is they're giving the president options. I don't see
36:18
Speaker 13: these folk going into Tehran, but I do think that
36:22
Speaker 13: there's a serious job that they could do if the
36:24
Speaker 13: President wants them to.
36:26
Speaker 2: In the north of the straight upfe moves all.
36:29
Speaker 1: Right, Peter Jennings, Great to see you as always. Now
36:33
Speaker 1: still to come, Ma'm danny. The New York City mayor
36:35
Speaker 1: celebrates the Persian New Year, but rejected their pleas for help.
36:39
Speaker 1: That's coming up, and Pauline Hanson implaues the government to
36:42
Speaker 1: start rationing fuel before there's none left. That's next, welcome back.
36:51
Speaker 9: Well.
36:51
Speaker 1: One Nation held a press conference this afternoon, and they
36:54
Speaker 1: looked like quite a formidable opposition. They were bringing the
36:58
Speaker 1: fight on the fuel crisis to labor Polline Hanson cold
37:01
Speaker 1: and the government to declare the situation an emergency and
37:05
Speaker 1: implement fuel rationing.
37:07
Speaker 14: Under the Actor does say that it has to come
37:09
Speaker 14: to rationing, and it does specify the services.
37:13
Speaker 1: That should get the fuel.
37:14
Speaker 14: I think that's important. So if we're calling for this
37:17
Speaker 14: Emergency Act to come into place, that means it will
37:20
Speaker 14: have to be rationing.
37:23
Speaker 1: She also asked the question that if there's enough supply
37:26
Speaker 1: like the government claims, then why are prices going up
37:29
Speaker 1: and who's profiting?
37:32
Speaker 14: I think there's fuel got I think there's gouging here,
37:34
Speaker 14: pross scouging.
37:35
Speaker 8: I really do.
37:36
Speaker 14: If Bowen has said this fuel has been on a
37:38
Speaker 14: strand soil, then why is the fuel cost going up
37:41
Speaker 14: to over three dollars a leader. It shouldn't be happening.
37:45
Speaker 14: So I think these big companies are forcing out the
37:47
Speaker 14: smaller companies out of the market.
37:52
Speaker 1: And joining me now to discuss this is Center for
37:54
Speaker 1: Independent Studies Director of Energy Research, Aidan Morrison Aiden, thanks
37:58
Speaker 1: for your time responding to Pauline's comments there about price scourging.
38:02
Speaker 1: Are you concerned that this could be happening? No, not
38:06
Speaker 1: at all.
38:07
Speaker 4: Actually, I think that there is a real crisis, a
38:09
Speaker 4: real shortage, and in a time of crisis, prices have
38:12
Speaker 4: to rise. This is basically the market's method of rationing.
38:15
Speaker 4: You can either let prices rise sufficiently high that people
38:18
Speaker 4: bulk when they go to fill up that second tank
38:20
Speaker 4: and say, you know what, it could get better next week.
38:23
Speaker 4: I'm not not take more than I need. But if
38:25
Speaker 4: prices don't rise that high, definitely you expect people to hoard.
38:29
Speaker 4: So that's exactly what we're seeing. People are hoarding because
38:31
Speaker 4: they can see the crisis is coming, they know the
38:33
Speaker 4: shortage is real, and prices are still saying it's affordable
38:36
Speaker 4: enough to buy an extra tank or two or three,
38:38
Speaker 4: and you're almost certainly winning on that bet. So prices
38:42
Speaker 4: have to rise otherwise we do end up with genuine shortages,
38:45
Speaker 4: hoarding and rationing.
38:46
Speaker 1: So that's the argument against cutting the fuel excise, which
38:50
Speaker 1: is what Scott Morrison did, and during the Ukraine War
38:53
Speaker 1: he cut it for six months to give motors temporary relief.
38:56
Speaker 1: But you're saying if that happened in this case, it
38:58
Speaker 1: would actually make the situation worse because it feels more
39:02
Speaker 1: affordable for people.
39:03
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that in this case. We were exposed
39:05
Speaker 4: to global prices a little bit in the Ukraine, but
39:08
Speaker 4: in this case was actually a serious shortage that all
39:10
Speaker 4: the Asian refineries that depend on basically the Goal for
39:13
Speaker 4: more than half their oil, and we depend on those
39:14
Speaker 4: refined products. At some point there is going to be
39:17
Speaker 4: a genuine shortage and a crunch, and there's a good
39:19
Speaker 4: chance if it's not resolved quickly the actual conflict, we're
39:22
Speaker 4: going to be facing a different type.
39:24
Speaker 2: Of shortage to that.
39:25
Speaker 1: So what do you think the Albanezi government along with
39:28
Speaker 1: the premiers should be doing now to address this?
39:31
Speaker 4: Look right now, there is actually nothing that can be
39:33
Speaker 4: done other than dishing out the pain in a controlled way.
39:36
Speaker 4: So it does come down to a question. Pauling's quite right.
39:39
Speaker 4: If there is a true shortage, rationing is coming sooner
39:42
Speaker 4: or later because people are indeed hoarding because they can
39:45
Speaker 4: sense that crisis. So I think they can only decide
39:48
Speaker 4: when and who.
39:49
Speaker 1: The drivers are right. Cris Bond's wrong.
39:51
Speaker 4: I think drivers have picked it right. They're sure that
39:53
Speaker 4: something is going to be coming that will push prices
39:55
Speaker 4: even high yet again next week, so they're taking matters
39:58
Speaker 4: in their own hands.
39:58
Speaker 1: And in terms of supply, I mean, we've seen the
40:00
Speaker 1: figures that we only have thirty six days left of fuel.
40:04
Speaker 1: I don't know what that is like now, given how
40:08
Speaker 1: many more shipments will be impacted, But what do you
40:10
Speaker 1: think at what point we've got five hundred service stations
40:13
Speaker 1: around the country tonight that have run out of at
40:15
Speaker 1: least one type of fuel. So pushing ahead to April,
40:18
Speaker 1: how about is it? Can it be?
40:20
Speaker 4: Yeah, April lit'tle get very substantial. I think at the
40:22
Speaker 4: moment the clue that we've actually got from Chris Bowen
40:25
Speaker 4: is that we had a slight increase in reserves of
40:28
Speaker 4: petrol between the last the first announcement, which is on
40:30
Speaker 4: the third of March and the seventeenth of March. A
40:32
Speaker 4: slight increase, but a big drop from thirty six days
40:34
Speaker 4: down to thirty days of diesel. And that's because our
40:37
Speaker 4: country actually uses twice as much diesel as we do
40:39
Speaker 4: petrol a little more than twice as much so, and
40:42
Speaker 4: our refineries produce roughly the same of each, in fact
40:44
Speaker 4: slightly more petrol. So diesel is the thing that's going
40:47
Speaker 4: to be in serious shortage, much much sooner than petrol.
40:50
Speaker 4: So by the time we get to April, I think.
40:52
Speaker 1: Another month or so April start of April, mid April,
40:55
Speaker 1: something like that.
40:55
Speaker 4: At the current rate, we're going to be seeing I
40:57
Speaker 4: think a very severe shortage indeed, but all ready because
41:00
Speaker 4: I think some people are anticipating that shortage and buying
41:03
Speaker 4: more that we're seeing supply chains seize up and people
41:06
Speaker 4: not being able to get calls back from their distributors,
41:09
Speaker 4: not being able to actually get a delivery on the
41:11
Speaker 4: date they.
41:11
Speaker 1: Scheduled it, and that then has flow and effects through
41:13
Speaker 1: the supply chain.
41:15
Speaker 4: Absolutely, that's what's right. So again, there is a method
41:18
Speaker 4: of managing this, which is let prices rise as high
41:20
Speaker 4: as anybody wants to put them. They'll always be filled
41:23
Speaker 4: in the tanks then, but it'll cost an eye watering
41:25
Speaker 4: amount to get it, which means that only people that
41:27
Speaker 4: really need it will get it. The alternative is you
41:29
Speaker 4: try to keep prices depressed. People grab as much as
41:32
Speaker 4: they can because they can sense the crisis and they
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Speaker 4: think the prices don't reflect it, and then soon enough
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Speaker 4: there won't be full of the bowsers and people will
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Speaker 4: have to have some sort of rationing or the government
41:40
Speaker 4: will have to intervene.
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Speaker 1: I mean, rationing to me has seemed sensible for at
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Speaker 1: least a week or so. I mean, I don't know
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Speaker 1: why they wouldn't do it now, just to stop that
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Speaker 1: panic buying, which they keep saying is the problem.
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Speaker 4: Look, it's been surprising to me. This is one of
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Speaker 4: the things that I didn't anticipate when I thought there
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Speaker 4: was a thirty days or so a fuel in the country.
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Speaker 4: I thought it would take us at least a couple
41:59
Speaker 4: of weeks before people actually couldn't get their fuel delivered.
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Speaker 4: But within about a week immediately we're hearing from farmers
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Speaker 4: in the country that had placed orders and not have
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Speaker 4: them delivered, or not getting calls back, not getting information
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Speaker 4: told they're on the list, but actually not getting the
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Speaker 4: fuel delivered. So it seems that a month's supply does
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Speaker 4: not actually give many people in the supply chain the
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Speaker 4: assurance they need to be able to keep on delivering
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Speaker 4: fuel to all the places and not holding it up
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Speaker 4: and trying to hold on to it and store it
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Speaker 4: for a further day.
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Speaker 1: This has been a massive wake up call that we
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Speaker 1: rely too heavily on imports. What should successive governments have
42:31
Speaker 1: done it? You know, what should we have done to
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Speaker 1: prevent us being in this crisis? Now?
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Speaker 4: There's no way around avoiding having produced more of our
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Speaker 4: own fuel. So in Australia's case, we do have some oil,
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Speaker 4: there's more that could be exported and drilled for. There
42:44
Speaker 4: is a problem though, a lot of Australia's oil reserves.
42:47
Speaker 4: Crude oil reserves are very light light crude oil and
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Speaker 4: even continsate, and that's pretty good for petrol, it's not
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Speaker 4: great for diesel. And Australia is overwhelmingly a very heavy
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Speaker 4: diesel demanding country. We got a huge agriculture, mining sector,
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Speaker 4: long distributed freight routes for trucking, and so we need
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Speaker 4: some of that heavy crude or conversions from coal to
43:07
Speaker 4: be able to get those very long molecules that make
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Speaker 4: up the diesel share we need. So the government has
43:12
Speaker 4: to look at using our own resources for that. Otherwise
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Speaker 4: we just don't have a serious solution for this.
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Speaker 1: All right, Ada Morrison, thank you so much. That was
43:19
Speaker 1: really interesting. Appreciate it.
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Speaker 2: Thanks Ery.
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Speaker 1: Now still to Karmaterra group has claimed responsibility for the
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Speaker 1: arson attack on Jewish ambulances in London. I'll bring you
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Speaker 1: the details. And Kir Starmer snaps in a meeting over
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Speaker 1: a grilling on the Iran war. That's after the break
43:38
Speaker 1: welcome back well in the UK. British Prime Minister Kiir
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Speaker 1: Starmer admits that the UK is unprepared for war and
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Speaker 1: he snapped at a Tory MP Bernard Jenkin during an
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Speaker 1: intense Iran War grilling.
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Speaker 2: The chiefs of staff are saying we need to be
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Speaker 2: ready for war.
43:56
Speaker 3: So when are we going to be prepared and prepared
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Speaker 3: for what.
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Speaker 7: We are finalizing?
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Speaker 13: The investment plan that sits with the Strategic Defense.
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Speaker 14: Review smacks of an enormous compleation.
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Speaker 12: Well, the smacks of the fact that for years was
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Speaker 12: under investment by the last government.
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Speaker 1: And joining me now live from the UK is Spiked
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Speaker 1: Online editor Tom Slater. Tom, thanks for your time. Well,
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Speaker 1: cracks are appearing in Kirs Stamer's leadership. They've probably been
44:24
Speaker 1: there for some time now, as he's accused of abandoning
44:27
Speaker 1: key allies.
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Speaker 15: Absolutely, and I think it's incredibly rich for Keir Starmer
44:33
Speaker 15: to turn around and snap in response to that line
44:35
Speaker 15: of questioning. Of course, no I was doubting that there's
44:37
Speaker 15: been long term under investment in our armed services.
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Speaker 2: But if you look at just how he has responded
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Speaker 2: over the course of the past.
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Speaker 15: Few weeks, it has been weak, it has been complacent,
44:47
Speaker 15: It has been humiliating in some respects for this government.
44:49
Speaker 15: I mean our warship, the HMS Dragon, has only just
44:53
Speaker 15: arrived to defend cypress A for three weeks after raf
44:57
Speaker 15: Acuteria base there was attacked by an arrayed we know
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Speaker 15: that we had four warning of this assault weeks in advance,
45:05
Speaker 15: and yet nothing was happened. We knew for months that
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Speaker 15: there was this build up in the Gulf and that
45:09
Speaker 15: something was going to happen. So even the things that
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Speaker 15: have been completely in Kirstam's control, he has completely screwed up.
45:16
Speaker 15: And that comes down to his lack of leadership, lack
45:18
Speaker 15: of judgment, is weakness, things that we've known about him
45:21
Speaker 15: for some time now.
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Speaker 1: I want to get the latest developments on these attacks
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Speaker 1: on the Jewish Volunteer ambulance, the Hutshold of Services in London.
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Speaker 1: So we know police have opened an investigation, but now
45:33
Speaker 1: there's an update into a terror group linked to Iran
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Speaker 1: claiming responsibility. Can you tell us about this?
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Speaker 15: So this has been something which clearly was a line
45:45
Speaker 15: of investigation for some time now. Pretty soon after the
45:48
Speaker 15: attack on those four ambulances, a terror group who wasn't
45:51
Speaker 15: named by the authorities but certainly circulating on social media
45:54
Speaker 15: had claimed responsibility. And this came after a week in
45:59
Speaker 15: which there was this you kind of be Iran linked
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Speaker 15: group which had claimed responsibility for attacks in the Netherlands
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Speaker 15: and for attacks in Belgium.
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Speaker 2: On synagogue's and day care and what have you.
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Speaker 15: We've now also just in the last couple of hours,
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Speaker 15: had two arrests of potential suspects in relation to this attack.
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Speaker 15: So whilst it's not been confirmed about the authorities, the
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Speaker 15: suspicion here is that this was one of the many
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Speaker 15: plots that we've seen not just in Britain but in
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Speaker 15: Western Europe linked directly to the Islamic Republic, and that
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Speaker 15: this is something which again the security services in this
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Speaker 15: country I've been dealing with quietly, but hasn't really been
46:34
Speaker 15: public knowledge up until those horrific scenes in North London
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Speaker 15: the other day.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we've been reporting on the thread of Iranian
46:41
Speaker 1: sleeper cells for a few weeks now. Tom, you've written
46:44
Speaker 1: a great article on this and you say that the
46:45
Speaker 1: anti Semites aren't even pretending to hide behind Gaza anymore.
46:50
Speaker 1: And this is spot on now.
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Speaker 2: I think that's been clear for some time now. Hasn't
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Speaker 2: it depressing the Shari?
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Speaker 15: I mean, we've had a string now of attacks in
46:58
Speaker 15: this country, both grimly successful and foiled, which are post
47:03
Speaker 15: October the seven, but clearly just about trying to intimidate
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Speaker 15: murder and main British Jews. It was only during Yom
47:10
Speaker 15: Kapur that the Heat and Park Synagogue in Manchester was
47:13
Speaker 15: attacked by a man whose name was Had and yet
47:15
Speaker 15: for some reason hadn't been stopped by the security services.
47:18
Speaker 15: Just a few weeks ago there was the conviction of
47:21
Speaker 15: to foreign born Isis fanatics who were in the process
47:24
Speaker 15: of trying to get their hands on automatic weapons so
47:26
Speaker 15: they could kill as many Jews as possible.
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Speaker 2: And now we see this.
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Speaker 15: There's a kind of grim inevitability to what we're seeing
47:33
Speaker 15: at the moment, and any kind of pretext that this
47:36
Speaker 15: is about international conflicts geopolitics has completely fallen away. This
47:40
Speaker 15: is a movement that is desperate to murder and kill
47:44
Speaker 15: Jews because they loathe Jews just as much as they
47:46
Speaker 15: loath of life. And that's something that this country, as
47:48
Speaker 15: well as many other countries, desperately needs to confront.
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Speaker 1: Couldn't agree with you, Mian, Obviously we're dealing with that
47:54
Speaker 1: in Australia as well. Just thirty seconds tell us about
47:58
Speaker 1: New York City mayors around ma'm Dani and why he
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Speaker 1: has been branded a hypocrite by the Persian community.
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Speaker 15: Yes again him sort of celebrating again, kind of at
48:09
Speaker 15: the same time as he's struggling to condemn the Islamic
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Speaker 15: Republic or certainly criticizing heavily.
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Speaker 2: The US for their war on Iran.
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Speaker 15: Of course, this is the mayor who's, to put it charitably,
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Speaker 15: struggled to more full throatedly condemn a mass in the
48:23
Speaker 15: midst of that conflict. So again deep concerns, certainly with
48:27
Speaker 15: the New York Jewish community about what Mayor man Darney
48:30
Speaker 15: means for not just the city, but how politics is shifting,
48:35
Speaker 15: particularly on the left in America.
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Speaker 1: I thought he was just universally being condemned, but it's
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Speaker 1: surprising that there are some New Yorkers that are praising him.
48:43
Speaker 1: Utterly nonsensical. Tom Slater, great to see you, and I'll
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Speaker 1: see you tomorrow at eight. Here's Paul Maray