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The Late Debate | 1 July · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Wait, welcome the Late Debate.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good evening and thanks for joining us on the
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  Speaker 2: Late Debate. I'm James Macpherson with the Nika to Georgio
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  Speaker 2: and Caleb Bond. I've got to say that while you
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  Speaker 2: were working, segment that Paul Murray does is one of
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  Speaker 2: my favorite segments on television.
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  Speaker 3: I know, well, it's, unfortunately, I must say, one of
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  Speaker 3: the best segments I've seen.
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  Speaker 4: Because it's just so hard to believe that it's real.
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  Speaker 3: We're paying these people and that's what they're doing with
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  Speaker 3: their time extraordinry that.
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  Speaker 2: The funny thing is, you'd think he'd be struggling for content,
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  Speaker 2: but if you look on Twitter and Instagram, I reckon
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  Speaker 2: the struggle would be working out which stupid political video
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  Speaker 2: to leave out.
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  Speaker 5: It's pretty bad.
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  Speaker 3: When you think I do know where having a laugh,
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  Speaker 3: but it's pretty bad you think about it.
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  Speaker 2: It is, all right, let's get into the show. Here's
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  Speaker 2: what's coming up tonight. Almost half of labor voters have
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  Speaker 2: no idea who should succeed an the alb and easy
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  Speaker 2: is that because there's a dearth of labor talent, or
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  Speaker 2: is Elbow cleverly ensured he has no obvious successor. Why
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  Speaker 2: is the ABC encouraging Australian kids to design a new
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  Speaker 2: national flag.
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  Speaker 1: It's the national broadcaster's.
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  Speaker 2: Job to inform people, not to recruit them. Transgender activists
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  Speaker 2: go wild after the Queen invites JK. Rowling over to
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  Speaker 2: talk about child literacy. We'll get to all of that shortly,
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  Speaker 2: but first, Australian school teachers are being told to quit
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  Speaker 2: using slang in the classroom. Education experts say too many
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  Speaker 2: teachers are using slang in a bid to be more
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  Speaker 2: relatable to kids. They've been using words like riz which
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  Speaker 2: means charisma. Danika has so much riz ah, thank you,
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  Speaker 2: You're welcome. They've been using phrases like aura farming, which
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  Speaker 2: means doing things to appear charismatic. Caleb is always aura farmer.
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  Speaker 2: And they've been using phrases like lock in, which means
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  Speaker 2: to focus. But experts say social media trends shouldn't set
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  Speaker 2: classroom culture, and besides, it's the job of teachers to
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  Speaker 2: elevate language and to expand their students vocabs, not to
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  Speaker 2: reinforce whatever's trending on TikTok. So let me ask you this, Danika,
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  Speaker 2: should teachers be gassing in slang? Or is that kind
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  Speaker 2: of mid and an instant L for education vibes?
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  Speaker 5: Sorry?
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  Speaker 6: Well that okay? No, no, please never okay, just put
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  Speaker 6: the camera please back on, James. If we could just
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  Speaker 6: do that YO sign again because the camera missed you,
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  Speaker 6: just do it again.
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  Speaker 5: Do it to camera, not do it to camera?
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  Speaker 1: This is it kind of mid or is it an
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  Speaker 1: instant L for education vibe? Relatable?
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  Speaker 5: I never want to say every young.
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  Speaker 1: Person watches ever like, wow, I finally get the.
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  Speaker 6: Late Okay, look sorry James in a nice way.
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  Speaker 5: It just doesn't suit you.
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  Speaker 6: Please never say yo again and never whatever, just don't
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  Speaker 6: the politely just doesn't suit you.
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  Speaker 5: I don't have a problem with this at all.
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  Speaker 6: I don't because I actually think when a teacher can
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  Speaker 6: bring themselves into a level of lingo where the actually
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  Speaker 6: relatable to the child, I think that that helps children
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  Speaker 6: learn in a classroom, because there's nothing worse than being
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  Speaker 6: in a classroom and you've got some boring teacher who's
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  Speaker 6: trying to pontificate to you and you're just sitting there
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  Speaker 6: going this is absolutely excruciating. You're not going to learn,
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  Speaker 6: You're not going to listen.
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  Speaker 5: Or, as I think, if you've got a teacher.
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  Speaker 6: That you know what, I'm going to make this a
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  Speaker 6: bit funner. I'm going to slip in a bit of
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  Speaker 6: slang here and there, a bit of riz, a bit
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  Speaker 6: of aura farming.
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  Speaker 5: I feel like, if you're a kid, you go, this
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  Speaker 5: teacher is cool.
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  Speaker 6: I enjoy coming to their classrooms and I enjoy learning.
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  Speaker 5: That said, as long as they are learning and.
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  Speaker 6: They're not slacking off, and they're genuinely doing their best
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  Speaker 6: in the classroom, that I do not see the problem
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  Speaker 6: with this.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the problem is that you end up saying things
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  Speaker 3: like you just did. You said fun at, which is
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  Speaker 3: not a word. It is more fun.
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  Speaker 6: I'm trying to be cool here and you've just knocked
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  Speaker 6: me down, as you always do.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Just use correct language and there won't be
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  Speaker 3: a problem. I think, you know, we can't. We don't
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  Speaker 3: need anymore of this and aren't going to vomit. And
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  Speaker 3: maybe maybe they actually no albae into a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe they're worried that if the teachers use the proper
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  Speaker 3: English language, the Queen's English, that the students will fill
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  Speaker 3: language mogged.
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  Speaker 4: You know what OG is.
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  Speaker 3: It's apparently like to beat someone that you know, basically
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  Speaker 3: you're better at it than them, or you've shown them up.
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  Speaker 4: Is to be mogged. So they're worried that they will
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  Speaker 4: mog the students.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know, but surely it is the job
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  Speaker 3: of a teacher to raise the kids up right.
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  Speaker 4: And if they're coming in saying all.
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  Speaker 3: These weirds, you know, skivity riz or whatever the hell
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  Speaker 3: it is, sixty I nearly said sixty nine, what is it?
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  Speaker 4: Six seven six six seven, and all this.
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  Speaker 5: Gas stop, We stop with the hand motions tonight.
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  Speaker 3: Where is the job of the teachers to get the
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  Speaker 3: kids out of those stupid habits and to teach them reality,
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  Speaker 3: and that involves teaching them the real English language. Now, yes,
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  Speaker 3: the English language.
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  Speaker 4: Evolves, there is no doubt about that.
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  Speaker 3: But these are slang terms that are not legitimate English words.
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  Speaker 3: You're not going to find them in a dictionary, though
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  Speaker 3: I suppose the way we're going they will turn up
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  Speaker 3: in a dictionary pretty quickly. But they're not real words
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  Speaker 3: that you would find in a dictionary. They're not words
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  Speaker 3: that you would want students to use in an assignment
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  Speaker 3: or an essay or whatever that they were writing. So
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  Speaker 3: I think, yes, teachers should avoid using that kind of
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  Speaker 3: slang in the classroom is you know whatever, but stuff
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  Speaker 3: like aora farming in order, like, you've got to be
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  Speaker 3: relatable to students to some degree. You shouldn't be so
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  Speaker 3: open minded that your brain falls out.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, but Caleb, it doesn't mean that they're not learning.
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  Speaker 6: It doesn't mean that they're not learning the proper English.
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  Speaker 6: That's got nothing to do with it. But if a
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  Speaker 6: teacher is, in that sense trying to be cool, trying
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  Speaker 6: to be relatable, why not when you were at school.
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  Speaker 5: When you were at school.
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  Speaker 6: And you had teachers that you considered cool, didn't you
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  Speaker 6: enjoy going to their classrooms?
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  Speaker 3: But they weren't cool because they were using the same
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  Speaker 3: language that really using in the school yard. They were
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  Speaker 3: cool because they were good teachers. Maybe a bit lenient
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  Speaker 3: at times on certain things, but they were just good
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  Speaker 3: teachers with good personalities. It wasn't about the slang words
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  Speaker 3: that were coming.
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  Speaker 5: In we had.
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  Speaker 6: I recall having a lot of fun teachers that would
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  Speaker 6: slip in a bit of lingo here and there.
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  Speaker 4: What were they doing back in the back in your back.
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  Speaker 6: In my d I can't I can't quite remember, but
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  Speaker 6: I just remember them being relatable and just fun and
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  Speaker 6: they used to say things tongue in cheek, and so
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  Speaker 6: we used to go that person, great teacher, love this class.
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  Speaker 5: And you go the next class and you'd fall asleep
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  Speaker 5: on your desk.
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  Speaker 2: I think in terms of relatability, that seems a very
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  Speaker 2: shallow level just because you cut sick with some you know.
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  Speaker 5: No, I disagree, I just agree. I disagree. I don't
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  Speaker 5: think I under estimation power of social media.
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  Speaker 2: Relatable teachers are ones who know their topic and who
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  Speaker 2: genuinely care about kids.
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  Speaker 1: I think that is real and that comes.
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  Speaker 6: Through you have to you have to be on their
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  Speaker 6: level a little bit. I'm not saying like, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I tried to be on everyone's level at the
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  Speaker 2: start of the show, and you mocked me for it, and.
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  Speaker 5: I wouldn't say you again. I just that's that's just
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  Speaker 5: not relating, because.
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  Speaker 3: We're acknowledging that when people who are older than jenn
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  Speaker 3: Alf do it, it looks and sounds stupid. So you
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  Speaker 3: might be trying to relate to the students, but you
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  Speaker 3: make yourself look like an idiot.
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  Speaker 2: I think you could have made that example with a
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  Speaker 2: little more moderate language.
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  Speaker 1: When you're talking.
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  Speaker 3: About I'm talking about all of us I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 5: All of us here.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think I look particularly cool doing it either.
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  Speaker 3: I think it just makes you look stupid. And you
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  Speaker 3: don't want to teach her to come across as stupid,
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  Speaker 3: do you? You don't wouldn't have thought about that, Caleb Well,
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  Speaker 3: I will lock.
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  Speaker 4: In and introduce the next topic I suppose.
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  Speaker 3: Which is that in the sky News you Gov Pulse poll,
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  Speaker 3: apparently most Labor voters don't know who ought to replace
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  Speaker 3: the Prime Minister if and when he goes. Now, there's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of talk that Anthony Albernez he may will
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  Speaker 3: leave by the time or not leave, I should say,
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  Speaker 3: but he won't put his hand up again to run
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  Speaker 3: full PM. By the time the next election comes around,
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  Speaker 3: he'll announce his intention to leave politics and go and
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  Speaker 3: enjoy himself at Copa Kabana with his wife.
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  Speaker 4: So in the pole.
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  Speaker 3: People were asked who they thought ought to replace the
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  Speaker 3: Prime minister. Forty seven percent of people said they didn't know.
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  Speaker 3: Now what you can see on the screen, there are
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  Speaker 3: the options they were given. Jim Charmers the treasure of
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  Speaker 3: twenty six percent, Tenure per six thirteen percent, Richard Marles
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  Speaker 3: five percent, Tony Burke five percent and Mark Butler the
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  Speaker 3: Health Ministry of course four percent, but that leads forty
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  Speaker 3: seven percent. You have no idea who would replace the PM.
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  Speaker 3: And these are labor voters. So the people who say
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  Speaker 3: they will vote labor, who you would think would be
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  Speaker 3: plugged into the Labor Party, they don't know who ought
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  Speaker 3: to come next. Now I would have thought she went
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  Speaker 3: back two months. Jim Charmers would have had a much
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  Speaker 3: higher number than twenty six percent, but maybe things haven't
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  Speaker 3: gone so well for him after the budget.
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  Speaker 4: But it does pose the.
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  Speaker 3: Question who would you actually replace the Prime Minister with
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  Speaker 3: if he said I'm retiring or you know, I've.
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  Speaker 4: Got to leave politics for whatever reason.
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  Speaker 3: In in the Labor Party, which has ninety four people
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  Speaker 3: in the lower House, which of them would you actually
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  Speaker 3: look at and go, actually, yeah, that's that's the bloke
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  Speaker 3: I want for PM.
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  Speaker 4: It feels like there's a real dearth to be perfectly.
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  Speaker 3: Honest, which I think is what is showing up in
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  Speaker 3: this poll. I reckon honestly, the best of the bunch,
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  Speaker 3: if you had to pick, would be Richard Marles. He's
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  Speaker 3: of the labor right, not the labor left. Unlike this
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  Speaker 3: Prime minister. He's a reasonably safe pair of hands. I
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  Speaker 3: think I think he's a more sensible person than the
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  Speaker 3: Prime Minister is at times.
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  Speaker 4: But if it's not him, I reckon Chris balon.
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  Speaker 3: Chris bar should be the Prime Minister because it will
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  Speaker 3: guarantee that the Labor Party loses and does not get
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  Speaker 3: re elected for.
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  Speaker 4: Another three terms. Are you going to be brilliant?
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  Speaker 3: Imagine imagine what the bloke could do in a year flat.
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  Speaker 6: It would be so well. I mean, here's the part
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  Speaker 6: he's part time. He could be the part time Prime
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  Speaker 6: Minister for part time manager.
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  Speaker 4: That would be a good thing.
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  Speaker 5: Actually it would be a great thing.
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  Speaker 4: Least government, the better.
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  Speaker 5: I totally agree.
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  Speaker 1: I still a president.
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  Speaker 5: Oh you have to call him president?
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  Speaker 1: He president. He wouldn't condescend.
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  Speaker 6: I know we could never lower him just to be
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  Speaker 6: Prime Minister. Of Chris Bowen is the most presidential of
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  Speaker 6: them all, a real, absolute star star of the show.
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  Speaker 6: But do you remember, even going back a couple of
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  Speaker 6: months ago, there were rumors of a rift or a
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  Speaker 6: growing rift between Jim Charmers and Anthony Abereneze because they
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  Speaker 6: were such leadership rivals, and you would have thought going
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  Speaker 6: a few years back that Jim Chalmers certainly had his
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  Speaker 6: eye on that top job. But now you wouldn't want
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  Speaker 6: to go near him as Prime minister. He is is
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  Speaker 6: bungled absolutely everything in the economy now might be surprised
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  Speaker 6: by my labor picks. If I absolutely had to choose,
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  Speaker 6: I was even thinking Jason Clair. Jason Clair, Education Minister,
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  Speaker 6: Jason Clair. I think you know, in terms of commentary,
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  Speaker 6: in terms of the spots that I do see when
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  Speaker 6: he does the breakfast rounds, he holds himself together quite
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  Speaker 6: well compared to other labor MPs. I will say he
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  Speaker 6: is the only one that genuinely shows I do actually
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  Speaker 6: think he cares about the state of the country, and
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  Speaker 6: I think he's actually done some good stuff in the
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  Speaker 6: education field. So if I had to pick, it would
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  Speaker 6: be Jason Clair, followed by Richard Marles as well, basically
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  Speaker 6: for the same reasons you said, a safe pair of hands.
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  Speaker 5: But gee, it's slim pickings, isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: I think what's interesting is Anthony Albanesi has put his
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  Speaker 2: main leadership rivals into very unenviable positions. Jim Chalmers, of course,
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  Speaker 2: has had to chop and change with all of the
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  Speaker 2: taxation and budget measures, his star has certainly faded. Tanya
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  Speaker 2: Plebasek rates well among people, but she's the Minister for Water,
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  Speaker 2: so she's hardly being given an opportunity to shine. And
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  Speaker 2: then you've got Mark Butler, who's leadership contender, being given
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  Speaker 2: the NDIS so you can figet about his career going forward.
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  Speaker 2: And then the other thing Elbow does is he surrounds
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  Speaker 2: himself with nincoan poops like you've got Chris Bowen, Katie
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  Speaker 2: Gallagher Pat Conroy who make Anthony Albanezi look good. This
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  Speaker 2: would be my tip if you have to replace Anthony Albanezi.
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  Speaker 2: We've been asked to come up with two suggestions. My
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  Speaker 2: number one would be replacing with a focus group from
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  Speaker 2: Western Sydney, because if you did that, no one would
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  Speaker 2: realize there'd been a change of leadership in the country.
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  Speaker 2: It would just keep running like it is. And my
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  Speaker 2: second pick would be Jason Clair.
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  Speaker 5: Oh there you go, So you thought Jason Clair too.
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  Speaker 1: Not because I think he's particularly good.
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  Speaker 2: He's just, to me, the least offensive of the Labor
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  Speaker 2: Cabinet members.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree, Look it is really slim pickings, but
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  Speaker 6: I think that Jason Clair at least comes across more
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  Speaker 6: prime ministerial.
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  Speaker 5: Well, he speaks well given streams at least, not that
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  Speaker 5: I agree. I do agree with that, but because.
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  Speaker 1: Others are more hysterical.
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  Speaker 2: What about Curius at Penny Wong doesn't feature in any
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  Speaker 2: of these polls at all.
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  Speaker 4: He's in the Senate.
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  Speaker 1: That's probably why jameson a little bit in the center.
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  Speaker 5: You know who we are forgetting.
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  Speaker 6: You guys have forgotten a very key member of the
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  Speaker 6: Labor Party, Andrew Giles. Forgot the failed Andrew Giles experience him.
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  Speaker 6: I've got to bring back Andrew Giles. Gee, that was
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  Speaker 6: an absolute shocker.
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  Speaker 4: I reckon.
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  Speaker 3: I reckon they should actually get Letho back, put Latham
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  Speaker 3: in there top based Elbow because because Elbow would absolutely
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  Speaker 3: hate that, and so it.
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  Speaker 4: Would be bloody brilliant. I reckon.
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  Speaker 5: What would his title be?
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  Speaker 4: Will be prime minister?
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  Speaker 5: Prime Minister? Yeah, it would have to be, wouldn't it.
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  Speaker 3: It could have happened in four But here's our chance,
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  Speaker 3: get rid of Albow, make it later.
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  Speaker 5: All right, there you go, Caleb, Caleb, Caleb, I said
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  Speaker 5: it first.
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  Speaker 6: All right, let's move on now to our friends over
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  Speaker 6: at the ABC. They're running a new prop propaganda program.
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  Speaker 6: This one is titled stuff the British Stole. The title
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  Speaker 6: speaks for itself. Yes, the evil British Empire, the evil
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  Speaker 6: Brits who founded this great country. There goes your taxpayer
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  Speaker 6: dollars at work. But in one of its latest episodes,
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  Speaker 6: filmmaker Mark Fennell he visits an Australian school and asks
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  Speaker 6: a group of students and most of them you'll see
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  Speaker 6: the clip in a second are of Asian Australian appearance,
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  Speaker 6: and they ask how would you redesign the national flag?
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  Speaker 6: Already this is going absolutely swimmingly, isn't it that this
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  Speaker 6: is a sort of indoctrination?
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  Speaker 5: This was the answer. One thing that none of you
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  Speaker 5: have included is the Union.
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  Speaker 3: Jack.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess we don't really associate ourselves with the
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  Speaker 2: British that much like in modern Australia.
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  Speaker 4: Because it doesn't really feel like us as a nation.
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  Speaker 6: Anymore, doesn't feel like us as a nation anymore. Gee,
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  Speaker 6: I wonder where they're getting this from now. It made
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  Speaker 6: me wonder what are they actually being taught in the
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  Speaker 6: classrooms that they don't feel connected to the Australian flag,
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  Speaker 6: that perhaps that don't understand the significance of the Australian flag.
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  Speaker 6: Is this a sort of indoctrinations one in the classroom
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  Speaker 6: and two the propaganda that has been pushed by the
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  Speaker 6: ABC to basically suggest that they shouldn't understand the Australian flag.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know about you, two, but when I was at.
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  Speaker 6: School, we did extensive history about Australia. We did have
• 15:02
  Speaker 6: multicultural days where we all had to dress up as
• 15:04
  Speaker 6: our heritage. So I remember coming into the classroom with
• 15:08
  Speaker 6: an Italian outfit on. But these kids, as part of
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  Speaker 6: this clip prior to that, were basically saying, well, we've
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  Speaker 6: got all these different cultures, so the Australian flag simply
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  Speaker 6: doesn't fit.
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  Speaker 5: Well, we are Australia.
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  Speaker 6: We may have a multicultural nation, whether for right or
• 15:25
  Speaker 6: whether for wrong, but we still have our own values.
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  Speaker 5: Under that one Australian flag. And this is why the
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  Speaker 5: culture wars.
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  Speaker 6: Matter, because it is bringing up this next generation who
• 15:37
  Speaker 6: don't seem to resonate with Australia nor Australian values, and
• 15:40
  Speaker 6: I worry that they will grow up hating Australia, like
• 15:43
  Speaker 6: we've seen from a lot of left wing activists.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: I think you make a really good point about the
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: education system.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: And the other thing about these kids is that generation
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: has grown up never seeing an Australian flag typically flying
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: in its own right. It's always one of three flags,
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: two of which are race base and then there's this
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: Ossie flag in the middle. So is it any wonder
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: that they're a little bit, you know, unsympathetic to the
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: national flag. The other point about this is isn't it
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: the job of the taxpayer funded broadcaster to unite Australians
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: around our national symbols, not to undermine them, and especially
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: not with the next generation.
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't know why they're going around asking school
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: students to redesign the national flag for a TV program.
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: It's a very odd thing to do, but of course
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: it advances the sort of agendas that some on the
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: ABC like to push. And I think what was demonstrated there,
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: which is sort of going to your point, Danika, is
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: that we have a great deal of historical and literacy
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: in this country, and you know, we're a relatively young
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: nation and yet we still understand a lot of people
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: understand so little about this country's establishment and what has
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: happened since then. I mean, one of the greatest exams
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: of it, of course, is that somehow Captain James Cook
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: has become the lightning rod and the person who gets
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: all the ire of those who think that colonialism was
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: a bad thing. But of course Captain James Cook had
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: nothing to do with the settlement of Australia. He was
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: killed nine years beforehand in Hawaii. But I don't think
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: any of these people actually understand who Captain Cook was,
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: or what he did, or his involvement in the establishment
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: of Australia. They're going after the wrong people. I mean,
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: I think it must be ten years ago. I wrote
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: a column after there was a story in South Australia
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: and I'd only left school the year prior where they
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: got rid of Australian history as a year twelve elective subject,
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: because from memory it was something like fifteen year twelve
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: students in the whole state elected to do Australian history
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: and so there was no school that would put it
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: on because they didn't have enough students to justify. The
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: only way they could have done it is to have
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: one class at one school somewhere and you'd have to
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: travel halfway across Adelaide or the state in order to
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: go and study Australian history. I mean, how sad is
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: that we're sort of actively discouraging children from engaging with
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: these things. And so I guess if that's what we're doing,
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: it actually makes perfect sense that you would feel like
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: there is no connection to the Union jack on our
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: Australian flag because what does this actually mean to you?
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: Probably not much at all, because no one's explained it
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: to you.
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: Well, I remember at school assemblies we had the Australian
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: flag flying. It was actually on stage and it was
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: only the Australian flag. And I'm willing to bet now
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: to your point that when you see this it wouldn't
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: be a standalone flag now, it would be the Aboriginal
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: flag and the Torres Strait Island of flags side by side.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: It's such a big thing now.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: You actually notice when you see the Australian flag on
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: its own it stands out because U usual these days.
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And the concern is that we now have a
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: new generation of self lovers that are being told to
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: feel guilty over what to feel, this hate of the
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: flag or this hate for this great country. And I
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: wonder how many at their school assemblies would even sing
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: the national anthem does that even exist anymore?
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: And you just don't appreciate how we got the country
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: that we got. And that's not to say the British
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: were perfect, but gee, if it wasn't for the Brits,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: it would be a very different country and not a
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: better one.
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: No, I completely agree, all right.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: The most popular political phrase at the moment is fire
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: the liar, and it's certainly cutting through. But maybe they
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: should bring back Tony Abbotts. Stop the boats because the
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Refugee Council of Australia says that in the first five
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: months of this year there were twelve boats that made
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: it to Australia with illegal asylum seekers.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: And there was another one just this week.
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: A group of twelve illegal migrants from China got ashore
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: in the far North Queensland Cape York Peninsula and they
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: made it to Weeper where they sat down at the
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: local pub to have some lunch, and that's where the
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Australian Border Force caught up with them as well as
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: federal police. They made it to the Weeper pub to
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: look into some people having lunch at a cafe. The
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: guys just kept eating their burger. According to news reports,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: they weren't too worried, but they were certainly getting questioned
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: and checked out. Now, I would imagine they would have
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: stood out because Weeper has a population of just over
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: four thousand people. And I did a bit of looking
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: around online this afternoon, and the best I could come
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: up with a couple of websites said there's less than
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: ten Chinese people living in Weeper. So if all of
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: a sudden you had a dozen at the local pub
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: having lunch, word would get around. The primary job of
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: a government is to ensure national sovereignty. Anthony Albaneze has
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: taken to using that a lot, especially when you talk
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: about Donald Trump. The emphasisers, well, we do what a
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: sovereign nation does, and we make our own decisions. But
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: surely the first part of being a sovereign nation is
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: having secure borders.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: And if we've got.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Boats continuing to arrive at our northern border without being intercepted,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: and it's only when locals at the Weeper pub ring
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: border force and say there's more Chinese here than normal?
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Is there something going on? And then the police think
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: we better come and check it out.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: That's not a good thing.
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: No, Well, I actually had to google Weeper because i'd
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: never heard of weeper, but yeah, it's really up the
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: far it's Far Far.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Eight hundred k's northwest of cams.
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so it's almost at the tip basically of Far
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: North Queensland. And so you're right when it's got a
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: population of just over four thousand, I think people would
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: have been going they're ordering burgers and fries here, But
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: we don't quite know who these two these chaps are.
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: But this is not the first time we've seen a
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: slip up like this.
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: You might recall a couple of.
• 21:54
  Speaker 6: Years ago that it happened in Far North of Western
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: Australia where there were a group that had managed to
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: get on shore and it was only because of Aboriginals
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: using their technique.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: They're playing with when they're playing with dramas.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: They were playing, they were like, right were these people?
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: And they found these people they had just wrapped up
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: in the bush and they were the one who actually
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: alerted border force to the fact that these people.
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: Have made it to the mainland.
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: Now, we do remember those dreaded rud Gillard Rudd years
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: when you had boats on the daily it was an
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: absolute disaster. But the fact that people have still managed
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: to slip through under this labor government shows that though
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: they don't they do not have control of Australia's borders,
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: and then they don't know whether people are coming or going.
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: It's a pretty bad cock up, isn't it.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, how do you, Oh, look that there's this
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: boat I mean allegedly coming all the way from China,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: so they had a little bit of time to try
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: and detect them. Oh there is this boat just you know,
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: lazily floating up to Cape York.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: I wonder what's going on here?
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: To be fair, there was a Chinese warship firing its
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: guns or it's Sydney and the government didn't know.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Look, I think what it means is that we need
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: to have more virgin planes flying around trying to keep
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: an eye on boats that are coming into Australian waters.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: To be quite frank, I mean, this is just ridiculous.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: These things just.
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: Should not happen.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Now, you know, we should take some solace in the
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: fact that it's not happening every day like it did
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: under the Rugullard years. But there is an element I
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: think of people think, well, under a labor government, they're
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: more likely to give it a go because they may
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: will slip through the cracks and see what happens. Now,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: they did slip through the cracks. Eventually they found them.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: But I got to say, maybe these chaps ought to
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: be allowed to stay in Australia because within hours of
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: being on Australian soil they demonstrated their desire to be Aussie's.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: Because what's the first.
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: Thing they did?
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: They went to the boozer, They went to the pub.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: I mean, what could be more Aussie than rocking up?
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: And the first thing you do is you go to
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: the pub. I reckon, we give these That's exactly what one.
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: But hang on, Cayleb. What else is there to do
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: in Weeper?
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Good point?
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: Well what else is there? I mean, I don't know you've.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Been to Weep as I've not been to Weeper.
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: What else is there? Probably a pub?
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: And well there's probably a couple of pubs, maybe no.
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: One else else there being I'm curious to know I
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: should have had.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: They just go to the pub.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: They sound like some you know, stand up Aussie blokes.
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: If you have been to your house, Caleb, then if
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: you want to house them.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: In Queens just before we move on, is it possible?
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: So locals alerted the authorities, right, yes, Denik, you mentioned
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: earlier it was a group of indigenous people mucking around
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: with drones.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Who alerted authorities.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: So you know, the Refugee Council says twelve boats in
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: the first five months.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Is that that we know of?
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: Well, that's a good question. There could be some that
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: have gone undetected. I mean, simply, we just don't know.
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: I think it was lucky in this case that this
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: was such a.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: Few cases it's been lucky.
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: But it's been lucky.
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: But I think it, you know what, credit to the
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: locals who have helped out in this circumstances. Going there's
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: some people that just don't look like they belong in
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: this area. Maybe they're easy to pick. I don't know,
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: would you be able to spot a boat of asylum.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Maybe the publican would be really disappointed they were reported
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: because like people in weeper, that's like would have.
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: Been by punts and bloody hell, where are they getting
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: the money from?
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Though?
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: Doing a lot much money there.
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: I would imagine, but you know they're doing the locals
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: out of jobs.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: I think that's a it's a terrible thing.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Let them sit there in the pub and drink and
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: you know, paul In Hanson would like, now, would you
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: believe it? It is Pride Month? And actually it did
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Pride Month, just end. I think June is Pride month.
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: It's a bit hard to tell.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Them finish in the US and it's about to stay.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Something like this, because overnight there was a post online
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: from the Royal family saying that who had come to
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: visit the Queen but JK Rowling, of course, the author
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: of the Harry Potty Harry Potty, Harry Potty. That's a
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: very different book Potty.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: I read it. It was crap.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: Anyway.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: And JK Rowling has gone around to meet the Queen
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: and they've posted on the Instagram with a shared passion
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: for books and a deep commitment to children reading for
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: pleasure Her majesty, and was rolling discuss the importance of
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: ensuring that young people have access to books and the
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: vital part of reading plays in opening doors for future generations.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: They might be saying, what is Pride Month had.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: To do with all this?
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: Well, apparently it.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: Is Pride Month, and so people are going absolutely crackers
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: over the fact that JK. Rowling, who of course has
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: been outspoken about the rights of biological women when it
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: comes to the whole transgender business, that she would be
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: invited to come and talk to the Queen during Pride month.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: This apparently means that the royal family is transphobic or
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: something or another. Here's a small selection of what people
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: have posted online. One person commented, queer kids read, trans
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: kids read a real queen would if in them not
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: my queen?
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: Well, sorry, that can't really be changed.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: Someone else said, I wouldn't have taken her majesty for
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: a transphobe.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: So disappointing, And all.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: She's doing is standing next to the highest selling living
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: children's author. I don't think that says anything about her
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: politics whatsoever. Now that says so disappointing. So tone death,
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: I think tone death is what you mean there. Perhaps
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: you need to read a few more books and get
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: yourself acquainted with the language. Maybe this person had one
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: of those teachers that gets around saying riz.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: Or afarming all the time.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: But I mean, for goodness sake, so you can't have,
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: as I said before, the highest selling living.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: Children's author in the world go.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: Around to talk to the queen about books without Well
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: that's somehow a reflection on her politics.
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: It has nothing to do with it.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: I mean when people talk about cancel culture, this is
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: what cancel culture is. You're taking one thing that is
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: completely unrelated that.
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: You don't like about a person and then.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Applying it to absolutely everything else. And what they're suggesting
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: is that JK. Rowling should not have any standing in
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: the community whatsoever or be recognized for any of the
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: work she's done because she has a political view that
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: they don't like.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: It's interesting the progression, isn't it.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: So the gay movement started out wanting equality, and so
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: they got that, but that wasn't enough. Then they wanted rights,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: which was different to equality. They wanted special rights, and
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: you could list a dozen of them.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: Including their own month.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: And now they've moved on from that to we want
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: a demanding ideological purity. So if you don't agree with
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: everything that we say and with our agenda, then who
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: cares that you are the most prolific children's author in
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: the world. The queen who's the patron of the National
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Literacy Trust has no right to invite you to speak
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: about the subject on which you are an expert because
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: on LGBTQ issues you don't pass the purity test. That's
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: quite a journey from we just want equality to if
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: you don't agree with our entire agenda, you're not worth
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: being listened to at all.
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: You're canceled, as Caleb said, you cancel culture. Firstly, can
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: I just say I'm so excited that the Queen got
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: to meet Camilla today. What an amazing moment.
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: Do you get what I said? The Queen got to
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: meet Camilla? Anyway, it doesn't matter what.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: Are you saying. Jk Rowling is the Queen?
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, don't you think she's a queen? She's amazing. I
• 29:35
  Speaker 5: rate jk Rowling in general.
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: In general, well, okay, we'll find she inspired an entire
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: generation to use the imagination, did she not?
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: Through her work on Harry Potter? She is an incredible role.
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: Model when it comes to women's rights because they are
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: being raised at the hands of some biological men who
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: claim to be women and throughout, you know, without fear
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: or favor. This is a woman who has campaigned and
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: she has been absolutely bullied harassed by the left who
• 30:01
  Speaker 6: have called her all sorts of things, and she's gone,
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: well stick it. I'm going to continue to stick to
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: my guns. So good on her and the Queen. May
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: I just say is also a great champion for women
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: and children. She champions homeless shelters.
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: She's very much in women's rights.
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: And this whole point of this whole exercise was to
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: inspire people to read.
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: That is what this was for. And you have got
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: the left, who, as always they're.
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: Meant to be the most tolerant, the holier than thou,
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: Yet they're going after the monarchy now for what for what?
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: It's got nothing to do with anything to do with
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: the trans movement.
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: It's got to do with reading.
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: For reading, for goodness sake, And it's just extraordinary that
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: what because it's Pride month. No, you're not allowed to
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: do anything. You're not allowed to meet up with people.
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: You're not allowed to post photos with people who are
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: against this movement because that makes you a transphobe or
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: it makes you homophobic.
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: I mean, give me a break.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: That's a really good point, because that was a common
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: theme in comments on the Instagram post, is that, like,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: if you're going to meet with JK.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Rowling, who's heretic because she happens to.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Believe in biology, please, for the love of God, don't
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: do it during Pride months.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: That's right, Pride.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Week, because that belongs to us, and the sense of
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: entitlement that you must bow to everything that we believe
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: and say during our month, issues that are completely unrelated
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: to any pride or sub self.
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: And I also think that there's only such a small
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: percentage of the population who think like this. I know
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: a lot of gay people and they cannot stand how
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: the whole pride or LGBTQ movement has been hijacked by
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: this small percentage. You just take it to the absolute
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: extremes because it makes them all look.
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: You know a certain way.
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: And I know a lot of gay people who are
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: like I don't want to be associated with this nonsense.
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: I just want to go out and live my life.
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: Please don't include me in this nonsense behavior now.
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: I suggest, though, James, that the love of God may
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: not have had much to do with their chagrin over JK.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: Rowling going to meet with the Queen.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: He might be right about that.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Just before we move on, Daniko, I've got to ask
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: you this, which queen is more excited to meet the
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: other queen? Is Camilla more excited to be in the
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: presence of JK.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Rowling? JK Rolling more excited?
• 32:22
  Speaker 6: Royal Camilla's more excited to be in the presence of JK.
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: Rolling.
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: I reckon, there they are. It is the Queen met
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: Camilla today. I think the Queen JK. She's the goat.
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: As they say, well, I wonder if they'd say that
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: in children's classes in the classroom now to goat. I
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: don't knower if that one's acceptable. Look, let's stay in
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: the UK. Actually, Oxford and Cambridge University's two prestigious universities
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: over there. Imagine working your entire life to try and
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: get into them. You work so hard at school to
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: try and qualify. Perhaps you come from a poorer background,
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: but guess what you might not qualify for.
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: A scholarship if you are white.
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: Yes, these two universities and now looking at enrollments based
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: on whether or not you are of a different color.
• 33:08
  Speaker 6: This is actually truly, truly extraordinary stuff. White working class
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: students are now excluded from almost all Oxbridge diversity scholarships.
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: That's according to an analysis by the UK Telegraph. And
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: we'll bring up the graph just to show you how
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: unbelievable this is. So this is the number of advertised.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: Bursary of scholarships.
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: Twenty seven point seven percent of these are for international students,
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: so you can see they're one hundred and seventy nine
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: were advertised for international students, twenty six for black minority
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: ethnic thirteen for refugees, and just one, just one for
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: white working class. I just I do not understand this.
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: This is firstly a two tier system.
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: This really, really is.
• 34:00
  Speaker 6: I feel like there's this perception in society where if
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: you're white, well, no, nothing's ever racist against white people.
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: This is racism.
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: This is point blank racism based off the color of
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: your skin. And we've got prestigious universities who are putting
• 34:19
  Speaker 6: di and quotas before the best people, the brightest minds
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: to take on a scholarship and represent the universities, and
• 34:30
  Speaker 6: I actually think it's discriminatory.
• 34:32
  Speaker 5: I think this is a discriminatory policy.
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: Well, if the idea is to have more diversity, the
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: first thing they could do is get some more white
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: working class kids into these unis, because they're not going
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: to Oxford or Cambridge. The National Education Opportunities Network in
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: twenty nineteen found that white working class students made up
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: less than three percent of the students at Cambridge and Oxford,
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: compared to thirty percent at Oxford more than thirty four
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: percent at Cambridge in twenty twenty three who were Black,
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: Asian or some other minority ethnic group. I would have
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: thought three percent qualifies you as a minority group. They
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: need to be having more scholarships for these people if
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: they want to have diversity at the university.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Isn't it amazing how equality policies tend to just produce
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: new inequalities. True, right across the board, and not just there.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: There's a great example of Cambridge University. There's an engineering
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: scholarship and it's somehow associated with Formula one teams and
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: it's open to non whites or females, but no opportunity
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: for young white men at all.
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: They just that's not racist. Of course, that's not racist.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Well, you know what you said.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: There's a perception that if you're racist, if if you're white,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: then you can't be a victim of racism. It's more
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: than a perception, many people actually teaching that now true,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: that if you're white you can't be a victim of racism. Yeah, anyway,
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: we're going to go to a break. When we come back,
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: we'll look at what's making news tomorrow, including Karl Stefanovic
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: sacked for a second time and a fraudster who should
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: have stayed off Instagram.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: That's in the.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Papers next, Welcome back to the program.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Let's take a look at what's making headlines in tomorrow's papers,
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: so you get them all first on the Late Debate.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: We'll start with the Courier Mail. Just a quick mention
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: because the editors have come up with a wonderful headline
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: talking about this story we referred to earlier of the
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: illegal asylum seekers arriving on the North End. The Bogy
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: smugglers reads the headline not bad at all and it
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: was a pretty bodgy job. They were caught fairly quickly
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: after coming ashore, so.
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: Well they bought Berger and Coke.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: It says they did there. Hungry Fellers simulation complete.
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: Absolutely absolutely. Let's take a look at the Herald Sun tomorrow.
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: Extra time for pubs exclusive. Every licensed venue in the
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: state allowed to stay open overnight.
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: For four am.
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: Soccer Roo's Cup Clash Victor Warrior will become a round
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: the clock Soccero's party zone, with pubs given unprecedented permission
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: to open all nights so fans can support Australia at
• 37:09
  Speaker 6: the World Cup.
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: On Saturday. Fantastic.
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: Seriously, go the Green and Gold, get down to your
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: local pub, I say, and go and enjoy it and
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: get down to.
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: The Weeper pub if you're and you know, support support
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: your country.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: So no doubt we'll find you at the pub at
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: four aim on Saturday.
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: Deneco.
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: Obviously here we go.
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: Everyone else should go to the pub.
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: No, no, no, But you know what I actually I
• 37:38
  Speaker 6: always feel like you should get up and watch these things,
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: even if I'm sitting on the couch in pajamas.
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: That's fine.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Is this is a change in Victoria, right, Because didn't
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: they have fed Square open for first games? Yes, and
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: they were not going to open it. Then they changed
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: their mind. I think it was just to allen Captain's call,
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: we're going to open it. And then they had flares
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: going off and that's so now that's banding.
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: That was the last World Cup.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: No no, no, no, one of the earlier games of this
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: World Cup.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: But now they're going to keep the pubs open as
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: it seems like a compromise.
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: And maybe it's just common sense.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: You split the people up into different post common sense.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: The last World Capture Center Animal wasn't the premiers four
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: years ago Janeka.
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: Was it four years ago?
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: Every four years?
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: No?
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: Sorry, I just I remember covering it for Sky as
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: a reporter. What I was here is sorry, my time
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: perception is a little.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Bit out, and you know what it is.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: It's because if your Italian background and the Italians haven't
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: made the Last.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: That's all right.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: On the front of the Mercury Tomorrow down in Tasmania,
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: it says Last Drinks. A high profile businessman says developing
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: the James Burg Brewery, siting Lon system would not be.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: For the faint hearted.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: As Premier Jeremy Rockcliffe jets off to Japan to discuss
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: the issue with Line parent company Kiran, So he's apparently
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: going over there because of course, a few weeks ago, Line,
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: which is the owner of James Bogue, announced that they
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: would be closing the Lawn Cyston Brewery. They've been brewing
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: down there for one hundred and forty five years. I
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: think bogues out of there. It is a long cistin beer,
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: but no longer. So the Premier is now going to
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: go over to Japan to bleed the case to keep
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: the brewery open in Lawn Cystein, and I hope he's successful.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: Because you know, how sad to lose that history because well,
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: it's just easy to brew a Tasmanian beer on the mainland.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: So when they say developing the site would not be
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: for the fainthearted, is that because it's a protected site
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: so it would be very difficult to turn it into
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: something else. Or is it because this beer brand is
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: so loved in Tasmania, anyone who did something on that
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: site would sort of I.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: Suspect the Green major it tod be major pushback. I
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: don't know if it's heritage listed. There's a pub on
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: the site that may well be heritage listed. But yeah,
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: I suspect you'd face a lot of pushback in lawn Ceston.
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: Because I could. It's one of those things in Tazy.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: You know, people in North drink Bogues and people in
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: the South drink Cascade and never the twain shall meet,
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: so they're.
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: Very protective of it.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: So yes, I would just speak you'd come under a
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: lot of pressure if you tried to.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Do anything, all right.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: The front page of the Adelaide Advertiser has the latest
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Carl Stefanovick's story covered in a a lot of the
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: papers tomorrow. The Advertiser's gone with sacked again. Karl Stefanovic
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: has been fired from his new radio show with Eddie McGuire,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: which would have been a great show Carl Stefanovic and
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Eddie McGuire. I quite enjoyed that, but Arn have announced
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: that it will continue without Carl Stefanovick, just Eddie McGuire
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: on his own at this stage. And the last episode
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: was Eddie on his own while Carl was away, and
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: now they've announced he won't be returning at all.
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: What a shame, What a shame to see them pulling
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: out and cowering like this. I mean, come on, I'm
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: all for free free speech with the Karl Stefanovick situation,
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: and I just think it's really really sad that we
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: can't have these discussions because oh no, you know, people
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: who are too controversial. No, no, no, you get canceled for
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: doing that. It's ridiculous. But you know, the only winner
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: out of all of this is the Carl Stefanovic show.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: And I mean the thing, of course, is that what
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: they're worried about is losing the ad revenue. Yes, and
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: this is what the corporates are doing, you know, I
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: feel sorry to some degree for broadcasting companies having to
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: deal with all of this stuff. But you know, the
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: corporates have the heavies put on them by the activists
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: and they go, well, we've got to do something here
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: and then and then the broadcasters have to cop that,
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: and on and on the chain goes. So you know,
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: from their perspective, the easiest thing to do is to
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: quarterize the problem because they need to make money.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: It's It's really sad.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Isn't the easiest thing to do is it just ensure
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: there will be a lot more of this, don't They
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: just need to hold a couple of organizations just need
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: to hold their ground and if that happens a couple
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: of times and the act realize no point to this.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: But by caving into activists, all Channel nine and now
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: ARN have done have ensured this will happen again.
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly, stand your ground and then maybe it might
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: keep the left at bay.
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: But once it's ridiculous, they do.
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: You have to make money as well. That's the only problem.
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: I do agree, And look, I do agree.
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: That's why I think that Channel nine pulled the pin
• 42:10
  Speaker 6: so quickly because they thought, well, you know, we have
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: a certain image to uphold and does Kyle Stefanovik get
• 42:16
  Speaker 6: six Am uphold.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: That to two hundred thousand viewers and that they did it.
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: They've tanked over nine in the latest ratings. That the
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: Today Show has gone even further backwards. I mean they
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: were already going backwards against their rival over at Channel seven,
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: and now it's gotten even worse. And the ABC apparently
• 42:33
  Speaker 6: catching up the Breakfast show there now.
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: So yeah, there you go.
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: All right, let's take a look now at the Townsville
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: Bulletin where it is time for.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: The day.
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: Yes, Townsville is giving us the dope of the day today.
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: Have a look at these fraudsters.
• 42:53
  Speaker 6: Instagram Blunder, a woman who racked up nearly one thousand
• 42:57
  Speaker 6: dollars in ill gotten game, was caught by police after
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: posing with the items she bought on social media.
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: Well, jeez, is that not a lesson?
• 43:10
  Speaker 6: If you're gonna nab something, maybe don't pose with the
• 43:13
  Speaker 6: items and do a little social media show and tell
• 43:16
  Speaker 6: it's probably not the best idea.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: Has she never heard? If it's not on Instagram, it didn't.
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: Happen, correct, So.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: That's that that should have gone with that.
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: If you take a sick day and people post on
• 43:27
  Speaker 6: their social media out and about.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: How dumb made it easy for police.
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: Well, that's right, you.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: Know, not all criminals are mastermind. So I suppose are they?
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: No, it's not. They're not smart like you gone.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: I never, you're not calling me a criminal mastermand.
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: God, they wouldn't know that. They wouldn't know say you're coming,
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: because you'd have your helmet on it.
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: Maybe criminal or on the front of the Australian borrow.
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: What does it? It's his loan slide.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: Text reforms hit housing world. Aneka chuckles away over there,
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: how much she likes her own jokes self recommendation. It's
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: not really much praise, is it anyway?
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: It says here.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: A sharp slow down in loan applications as heightened fears
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: that the property market is cooling faster than expected, with
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: the Reserve Bank warning of the impact of Labour's controversial
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: budget tax changes and the risk it extended downturn could
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: slow the overall economy. The value of dwelling approvals declined
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: for the third consecutive month in May, a run unmatched
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: since the peak of COVID in twenty twenty one, while
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: housing credit growth has slumped to at slowest pace in
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: a year, as higher interest rates and text changes send
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: home prices and auction clearance rates tumbling. New lending is
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: expected to have in growth over the coming year, with
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: the investment house mcquarie warning in a note to clients
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: that the banking sector was facing a pricing war and
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: yet we still have the treasure and the Prime Minister
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: saying today, Ah, but the modeling says that prices aren't
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: going to go down, They're just going to grow slower
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: than they other wise would have. Well, the early indications
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: from the markets seem to suggest other wise. Domain predicted
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: at the start of the week that there'd be a
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: six percent downturn in Sydney in a seven percent downturn
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: in Melbourne.
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: That translates to.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: On a median property in Sydney one hundred and twenty
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: two grand that you would lose over the next year,
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: and in Melbourne I think it's eighty four grand you
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: would lose over the next year.
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: So thanks Albow.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: Really quickly before we go to the break Northern Territory
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: News on the front page there license to give a spray.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Teenagers as young as sixteen could soon legally carry pepper spray.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: That's new laws regarding how you can defend yourself in
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: the Northern Territory. We're going to go to a break
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: when we come back, Deniko, I reckon, we have found
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Australia's most committed hairdresser.
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: We have get ready for it.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: That's up a break.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Before we went to the break, Denika was trying to
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: work out whether or not she would want Australia at
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: four am in their World Cup game. If you decide
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: to watch it, I hope it works out better than
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: this mob in your phone television.
• 46:09
  Speaker 5: Your phone's bloody Jesus.
• 46:13
  Speaker 6: I'm in the standards for me, the standards that are
• 46:16
  Speaker 6: being set.
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: Yes, look Paraguay.
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: Paraguay pulled off an almighty shock to book their place
• 46:22
  Speaker 6: in the World Cup's last sixteen against Germany.
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: There was a one all.
• 46:27
  Speaker 6: Draw before they had to go into a decisive penalty.
• 46:30
  Speaker 6: But have a look at this at a bar in
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: the capitol when they're watching it on a big screen,
• 46:36
  Speaker 6: when the television turned off and they came back on again,
• 46:39
  Speaker 6: and then there was a message saying that its subscription
• 46:41
  Speaker 6: had finished, but luckily they.
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: Saw the results. Have a look. How is it?
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: How would you be in that absolute iconic moment that
• 47:05
  Speaker 6: the television subscription.
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: Oh what has got off again?
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: Calling you?
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: That's Caleb.
• 47:14
  Speaker 6: So you know the first time neither of you have
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: any ris serious.
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: Lock it lock it in, Lock it in.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: My Aura Farming is complete.
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: Ah yeah, both Aura Farmers serious.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you who didn't get the opportunity to show
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: up there Riz last night was Serena Williams. Now any
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: Williams of course, came back to play at the Wimbledon
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: and she was up against Australian Maya Joint. She lost
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: the match, but afterwards, having lost, she decided that she
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: would not show up for the typical requisite press conference.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, this is just standard stuff. Every tennis player
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: does it.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: After a match, the reporters have a chance to ask
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: them how the match went, what could have been different?
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: I mean the worldwide interest in Serena Williams coming back
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: to play Wimbledon and she's like, no, I'm not going
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: to go and talk to the priest and therefore get
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: a message out to my fans.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: What a sore loser.
• 48:12
  Speaker 6: She is a sore loser for someone who has had
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: so much success in her career. The fact that she
• 48:17
  Speaker 6: couldn't even attend a post match press conference. It puts
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: a sour taste in your mouth and.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: There would only have been goodwill for her.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: I mean to get back there at age forty four,
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: although Martine and Navradlova she made it for the second
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: round of women and I think aged forty seven.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: The press conference.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: There you go, all right, before we go, we've found
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Australia's most committed hair dresses. Not that I get to
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  Speaker 2: the hairdressers very much these days, but if you had laugh, Caleb,
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  Speaker 2: But there was an evacuation in your O Pilli shopping center, Brisbane.
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  Speaker 2: People were moved out of the shopping center while whatever
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  Speaker 1: I gotta tell you you got your money's worth with
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  Speaker 3: You know this is this is the backbone of Australia.
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  Speaker 3: This is what Australia used to be. If a job
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  Speaker 3: had to be done, people got it done. I'm glad
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  Speaker 3: to see there are still some people who were believing
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  Speaker 3: that in this country.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, that's all we've got time for tonight. We'll see
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